COWBOYS SQUAD SHOW: The NFL Draft is now just one month away for the Cowboys.

Summary

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Locked On Cowboys: COWBOYS SQUAD SHOW – One Month Before the NFL Draft

Date: March 24, 2026
Hosts: Marcus Mosher, Aisha Morrison, Glenn “Stretch” Smith, Jeff Bigs
Podcast: Locked On Cowboys - Daily Podcast On The Dallas Cowboys

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Episode Overview

This week’s Cowboys Squad Show dives deep into Dallas’s final month before the 2026 NFL Draft. The crew analyzes pressing roster holes—especially at linebacker—debates how the Cowboys should approach the draft given their defensive needs, and breaks down the rapidly rising wide receiver market in light of Seattle’s big deal with JSN. Throughout, there’s a candid assessment of Dallas’s offseason strategies, possible trade scenarios, and how draft dynamics could shape the Cowboys’ immediate and future roster.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cowboys' Lingering Linebacker Void

• The team’s “gaping hole” at Mike linebacker is the dominant theme.
• Marcus Mosher (04:20): “Unless they grab a linebacker between now and the draft... one of your first two picks... are going to be a linebacker because it’s such a gaping hole.”
• Aisha Morrison (05:21): Notes the organization clearly recognizes the need for a linebacker given recent comments and free agency inactivity.
• Speculation that Dallas overplayed its hand hoping for Nakobe Dean, who chose the Raiders for a similar deal (07:06).
• Glenn Stretch Smith (07:06): “The one place you don’t want to be in this draft is to have to do something. Because when you do that... that’s when you reach and... get yourself in some real, real trouble.”
• General consensus: Forcing a pick out of necessity, especially at linebacker, carries immense risk, but current depth is dire.

2. Draft Value vs. Roster Needs – Risk of “Reaching”

• Draft Realities: Linebacker and defensive end are big holes, but so are edge and secondary.
• Mosher & Stretch debate: Should the Cowboys take “best player available,” or prioritize needs?
  • Marcus (16:33): “I disagree with necessarily just taking the best players because I don’t think this team should draft an offensive lineman in round one.”
• Historical precedent: Linebackers and safeties often fall lower in the draft due to positional value.
• If top defensive names (e.g., Sonny Styles, Caleb Downs) aren’t available at #12, discussions heat up around drafting for need vs. trading out (10:29, 15:26).

3. Names in the Mix: Possible Draft Targets

• Top linebacker targets discussed: Sonny Styles, C.J. Allen, Arvell Reese.
• Glenn (10:47): “Zero chance any of those four guys [top defenders] are there at 12.”
• Receivers and offensive tackles expected to be valued higher on draft day, potentially pushing certain defenders down (11:45–12:26).
• Safety Dylan Thieneman, and CB Jamar McCoy also noted as possibilities for the Cowboys in round one or with a trade back.

4. Free Agency and Trade Possibilities

• The crew laments missed opportunities in free agency (Dean, Brooks, Wagner).
• Consensus: Do not expect massive moves before draft night (17:34).
  • Aisha (17:34): “Bobby (Wagner) ain’t signing nowhere till about August... only way Dallas gets anyone in here is... via trade.”

5. Rising Receiver Market & George Pickens Contract Fallout

• JSN’s blockbuster deal (Seattle, 4 yrs/$168M, $120M guaranteed) raises the bar.
• Marcus (27:15): “I don’t think George Pickens can suddenly ask for — hey, I want $40 million starting in 2026. Like, I don’t. It doesn’t really work that way.”
• Aisha (26:26, 28:24): Acknowledges market “is the market,” but Pickens needs another big year to even approach JSN’s payday.
• Glenn (27:44): “Do I think that makes George Pickens a forty million dollar player? I do not. But I do think the price of poker went up a little bit.”
• Notable exploration of “highest-paid” receiver aspiration and the realities of contract timing, agent posturing, and recent on-field results.

6. Would Dallas Draft a WR at 12? Replacement Theories

• Rumor mill: Cowboys drafting a receiver as Pickens replacement.
• Aisha (34:02): Dismisses as illogical—“It makes no sense to me.”
• Marcus (34:41): “You should always be looking at receivers… But is there a chance that Carnell Tate is available at 12? Who’s to me the best receiver in the class? I think so.”
• Team can’t afford luxury picks given defensive holes, but also can’t ignore value if top-tier WR prospect falls.

7. Trading Down – The “Most Likely Scenario”

• If top defensive targets are gone by #12, trading down becomes appealing.
• Marcus (41:34): “The more I look at this draft, the more I feel like the Cowboys are going to bail out of that 12th pick… maybe… trade back, add another day two pick…”
• Glenn (42:34): “I think you’re going to see one of those offensive guys will be there at 12 and I believe their phone will blow up… make it expensive as hell for somebody to go up and get the guy they’re in love with.”

8. Draft Visits, Dallas Day, and Pro Day Circuit

• Overview of the Cowboys’ “30” allowed prospect visits—mostly for interviews, not workouts (53:12–54:22).
• Dallas Day explained as key to lining up promising undrafted free agents (54:22–55:40).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

"The one place you don't want to be in this draft is to have to do something. Because when you do that, I'm telling you, it's when you reach and when you get yourself in some real, real trouble."
— Glenn Stretch Smith (07:06)

"Forcing a rookie to step in at Mike... that's a big, big ask."
— Jeff Bigs (09:04)

"History suggests safeties and linebackers just don't go very high."
— Marcus Mosher (11:45)

"You should always be looking at receivers ... you can never have too many of these guys."
— Marcus Mosher (34:41)

"If you want the Cowboys to trade down, I think it’s a receiver that you want to be available when they're on the clock at 12."
— Marcus Mosher (44:45)

"This is how bad teams continue to cycle."
— Marcus Mosher (36:45)

"This is a silly season when it comes to the draft... It's all nonsense, but it's so much fun. That's partly why I enjoy the draft process so much."
— Marcus Mosher (56:32)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:53 — Injury Roundtable: Hosts discuss hosting while “playing hurt” and offseason exhaustion.
• 04:20 — Main Topic Begins: The linebacker crisis and approach to the draft.
• 07:06 — Overplaying the hand with Nakobe Dean, draft dangers of “needing” to pick.
• 09:59 — Debating value and risk: Should the Cowboys “overdraft” at LB?
• 13:28–14:28 — “Best Player Available” vs. Need discussion; What if the top defensive targets are off the board at #12?
• 16:49–17:39 — Free agency inaction and slim veteran options.
• 25:33 — JSN Contract Reaction and Pickens Fallout.
• 34:01–36:03 — Rumors around drafting a WR to replace Pickens; “always be looking” at WRs.
• 41:34–44:53 — Trade Down Talk: Scenario building for pick #12.
• 53:12–54:57 — Inside look at official draft visits and Dallas Day structure.
• 56:32 — The “silly season” of draft rumors and favorite time of year for the hosts.

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Final Thoughts

The crew leaves listeners sharply aware that Dallas’s draft and roster conundrums are mostly self-inflicted after a low-impact free agency. While linebacker looms as a non-negotiable need, edge rusher and some secondary depth are also pivotal—and a trade-down scenario feels “most likely” if the draft board breaks unfavorably at #12. Meanwhile, the rapidly inflating receiver market adds urgency for long-term planning, and the need to hit on under-the-radar prospects (and undrafted free agents) isn’t lost on the show. The overall tone mixes realism, (occasional) frustration, and cautious optimism that a smart draft and late personnel moves could keep Dallas in the hunt.

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Transcript

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[Aisha Morrison]

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[Jeff Bigs]

As a drummer it is always good to squat up and hit that rim and get this show started. Hello again everybody. Welcome as the Cowboys off season rolls on. We are now one month away from the 2026 NFL Draft. Can't believe it. But right now we get to bring you another edition of the Cowboys Squad Show. This one brought to you by FanDuel because during the tournament FanDuel is offering $300 back in bonus bets every day for 10 days. So head to FanDuel.com to get started. We are getting started and as always we welcome playing hurt today, the co host of the daily Lockdown Cowboys podcast, Marcus Moer. Marcus, thanks for being with us buddy and always good to see you.

[Marcus Moer]

I said I'm on the bas. Best shape of my life, Jeff. What are you talking about?

[Jeff Bigs]

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[Aisha Morrison]

That's right.

[Marcus Moer]

Battle in the flu a little bit.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

We'll be good.

[Marcus Moer]

We'll power through.

[Jeff Bigs]

Of course. Landon McCool will be back later in the week, and we get to say welcome back to Aisha. Multiple Morrison. Good to have you back. Aisha looking strong.

[Aisha Morrison]

Yes. Thank you so much. Coming up IR in my practice window. So, y'. All.

[Marcus Moer]

We're all beat up.

[Jeff Bigs]

She'll. She'll be out. She'll be on the mound in about 10 days.

[Aisha Morrison]

Yeah, I make a big deal out of it. You know, I'm just a practice squad guy. You know what I'm saying?

[Jeff Bigs]

Yeah. We got former Cowboys coach Glenn Stretch Smith got some more color over the weekend. He is in rare midsummer form already. Hitting the links. Love it. All right, we got a lot to get to. We got the very latest on the Cowboys, including an update on George Pickens and his status. But let's get into this right out of the gate because Marcus, something we hit on last week, and I know that you and Landon already did as well. I think. Aisha, you've spoken about it, too, but the Cowboys have a month to go until the draft, and they still don't have a Mike linebacker, and so they do have a few options. But from. From where they're sitting right now, which way do you think they're leaning?

[Marcus Moer]

Well, I mean, I think the good news is you don't have to play a game right now, so you have some time to figure out all these positions. Right. But I think unless they. Unless they grab a linebacker between now and the draft, I. I would almost assume that one of your first two rom. First picks in the first round. Excuse me, Are going to be a linebacker because it's such a gaping hole right now, whereas you need edge rush help, but I think you can get by with what you have. You need cornerback help, but you could talk yourself into being okay at that position. They just have one guy at linebacker, and that's the Marvin Overshone who cannot stay healthy. You've got to figure out a way to address that position. And maybe I. I mean, we could talk about. The guys are going to be available in round one. I don't love all the options, but unless you go out and grab somebody here in the next 30 days, you're probably gonna force yourself into picking one earlier than you might like.

[Jeff Bigs]

Aisha, what about you? What do you. What are you hearing? What are you thinking?

[Aisha Morrison]

What's. Well, we know that. We know at least that they're acknowledging. They clearly know that they need a linebacker from the first wave of free agency to, you know, us getting some of the reports that have come out as of late. It is a need and I think that it's such a huge need and hopefully coach can expound on a little bit more for the turning over of this defense. I think, I do think that, you know, in Marcus, I wanted to ask you guys, you know, with there being more nickel, how, you know, we know they need more linebacker depth, but how much are they thinking they need if they have safety depth, depending on how that goes?

[Marcus Moer]

Well, it's a fair question because I do think you're going to see some of these guys, like in the safety room come down and play in the Nicholson spots, but they don't have a guy that you feel good about on first and second down, coming downhill, taking on a guard, making tackles in the run game. I think you feel decent about overshowing as what he can do as, you know, a will linebacker or, you know, we'll see what he can do in this new defense. But it's not as big of a need as it's been in previous years, but it's also a huge need because you don't have anybody.

[Aisha Morrison]

I just think that, like I said, I think installing this defense and what this defense is going to be is expected to be doing with a lot of the simulated pressures, you know, dropping in the coverage. You know, like I. They're. They're wanting to really marry the front end to the back end. I think whoever is going to be men in that mike is going to have to be like really tuned in and a leader and communicative. And I just feel like I thought that they would hand. I thought that they would need to get a veteran in here for this transition to go smoothly or more smooth. What do you think

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

my gut feeling is? And I don't know this. My gut feeling is that they overplayed their hand with Dean. I mean, I think they thought that that was going to be their guy. Christian Parker, coming from Philadelphia. I think he. I think they overplayed their hand here thinking that if. If we can't maneuver the way we want to maneuver here, maybe, you know, maybe he. He was the fallback guy and of course he goes to the Raiders for basically the same exact deal that he had in Dallas. Do I think this is a deep linebacker draft? I do. I was talking to a couple guys today who feel like that that there really are some players in that 35 to 95 number that, that can fit this bill. Is that what you want to put on a first year player? I don't know. But my, my, my initial response is that you. The one place you don't want to be in this draft is to have to do something. Because when you do that, I'm telling you, it's when you reach and when you get yourself in some real, real trouble. So, you know, I, I have to trust in the process right now and I do believe that there are still some conversations about a possible trade for a veteran guy, you know, who. I have no idea who would, I really think even fits the bill. I don't know. But I do believe that the Cowboys recognize where they're at and they understand the sense of urgency for getting a guy at that position.

[Aisha Morrison]

I agree.

[Jeff Bigs]

Well said. Well, I think what you said, Aisha, I, I think asking a rookie to kind of step in to that role, that's, that's a big, big ask. I mean, I think we would all agree on that.

[Aisha Morrison]

I didn't think that they were going to do that, but at the same time, Marcus is. Which is, which is the other side of it. Just playing Davis Devil's advocate to myself is they went through, I mean, I think coach is right about the Dean thing. Kind of feels like that's the drift. But they went through all these linebackers, they didn't sign anyone. What if there is a guy that they really felt like, you know, well, as they go through the 30 visits and all that stuff. What if there is a guy that they feel comfortable, can handle that? Like, I mean, it's not, I'm not qualified to do that. Coach has done it, I'm sure. Like, what if they just feel confident in one of these rookies for real? And yeah,

[Marcus Moer]

it's tricky because Gross. Well, and there's a couple things. I. Let's use names because I do think that's helpful if, if they're drafting Sonny Styles at 12, I think all of us would be on board with that pick because you're taking an awesome player who played at a big time school that's an elite athlete, who is, I think a lot of people think is a top five player in this class. Right?

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

We're all. Before you go through this exercise, is, is in your mind, is that realistic? Do you think he's there at 12?

[Marcus Moer]

I don't think he's going to be there at 12, but I don't think it's unrealistic. To think an off ball linebacker could fall a little bit in the draft. Just because I, I remember the 2018 draft when Roquan Smith was thought to be maybe that best player in the class and he fell outside of the top 10. So it does happen.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

I think you gotta before, I mean, I want to participate in the exercise. I think it's important that you look at the defensive needs of the team, the 11 teams that are in front of you that are drafted. And I mean, I don't think there's zero chance that Styles gets past Washington. So I think too, and it doesn't mean that I'm trying to shoot down what you're saying, but I mean, in theory, you're sitting here today at number 12 and you're telling me, Arvell Reese, Sonny Styles, Downs or Delane, let's just throw the four names out there that are probably going to have grades in that area. And where I sit today on the 23rd of March, I think there's zero chance any of those four guys are there.

[Marcus Moer]

And here's the thing. I would say kind of as the rebuttal, you are talking about an off ball linebacker, a running back and a safety. Those are three positions that don't carry a ton of positional value. And I agree, like, these are probably three of the best five players in the draft. There's, there's no argument, but when you get into these drafts, we always see wide receivers and offensive tackles go high because they're just a, they're more valuable positions. Right. And it's really hard to get those guys in the open market. Now that doesn't mean that one of them is going to be available at 12, but would it shock me if Caleb Downs Was there at 12, if Sonny Styles were there at 12? Now, because we have lots of draft history that suggest safeties and linebackers just don't go very high.

[Aisha Morrison]

Yeah, I think that, I think the thing about this draft is the fact that because offensively some of the positions that, you know, quarterback being one of them, this isn't a, a fantastic quarterback class. Obviously the offensive tackles, all of those things. Wide receiver is a little bit more rich. But I'm just saying, like a lot of those offensive positions that normally are among these top, you know, 10 to 15 picks, I think that people are looking at the fact that this is a more defensive rich draft and putting a lot of stock in that in comparison to the offensive side of things. But people are going to draft offense. People are going to draft offense. Like, yes, there's going to be. There's. I do think that some of these guys, like, you know, you mentioned ARV Reese and some of those guys aren't probably won't be there because they're just that good. But I'm not gonna sit up here and act like there's not going to be people who want to get a tackle because as you get out of that first 15, it gets very different, like even out of the first 20. So I don't know. Or wide receiver, like.

[Marcus Moer]

Well, and that's the other thing. And we'll talk about receivers here in a little bit, but just draft those guys early because their value continues to go up and up and up. Yeah, but back to the original exercise. Let's say it's not Styles at 12 and it's CJ Allen at 20. We might disagree a little bit on how to value C.J. allen, but this is somebody for most people is a second rounded graded player. If you look at the consensus boards right now, he's rated in like the 2930 range. Is it worth over drafting a linebacker at pick 20 because you have a need? Or are you better off throwing out a day two pick to somebody else that already has a veteran linebacker under roster or under. Under contract? They can come in and help you right away. That's the direction I would go. It sounds like that's maybe where the Cowboys are leaning. We'll see if they can get something done between now and the draft because if they don't get it done, I wouldn't be surprised if Allen from Georgia is the pick at 20.

[Aisha Morrison]

Is that because the outside linebacker coach?

[Marcus Moer]

No, I. I don't think. It's just that. I think there's other parts of where. I mean, look at all the Georgia guys that the Eagles drafted when Christian Parker was there. It's a very similar scheme. Right. They've. There's a lot of familiarity. He's also a traditional buck linebacker that can come downhill and make plays in the run game. I think he fits really well, but I don't know that should be the pick at 20 either.

[Jeff Bigs]

All right, so we talk about the trade.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

What if the. What if the safety for Morgan is there and you still think that Allen would be there at 20? You say for.

[Marcus Moer]

You're saying you'd rather have. You're saying if thienamin is available at 20, would you take phenomen over Alan?

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

No. At 12. If you got. Both of them are sitting there at 12.

[Marcus Moer]

Oh. I mean them is twice the player that Alan is I'll just take thienaman.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Yeah, I think that that's realistic. I'll participate in that because I do that. I do think that is realistic.

[Aisha Morrison]

Yeah.

[Marcus Moer]

Yeah. And I'm good with that. That's. That's perfectly fine. It just. When we start talking about CJ Allen at 20 versus some of the corners that might be there, some of the edge rushers, that's where it makes me a little queasy, queasier than I already am.

[Aisha Morrison]

It's such an interesting thing, too, because we would look at this linebacker class and say, like, this is a pretty rich linebacker class as you get into the second fourth rounds and those things. But to come in and do what you gentlemen have just laid out, there's maybe two or three guys that maybe you feel comfortable with or more comfortable with being able to do that. And like coach said, it feels like those guys might go early. One of them might be there, though, at the very least.

[Jeff Bigs]

So are you thinking then really the mindset should be if, if they hold the picks and they don't make a. Make a deal, you got to get the best players, not. Not the. Not for need. And then after the draft, you can kind of see where you're at and see what you can do but take the best players and that. That's. That should be the goal.

[Aisha Morrison]

Yeah, I guess feels neglectful to not get this done. Sorry.

[Marcus Moer]

I will say I disagree with necessarily just taking the best players because I don't think this team should draft an offensive lineman in round one. And there's a chance that your best player on the board's an offensive lineman. So you've got to be a little bit picky about where you're going.

[Jeff Bigs]

All right, fair enough. You know, we, We've heard different names over the last couple of months. We heard, you know, Jonathan Granard's name was up there, Alex Highsmith over the weekend. The new one was Jordan Brooks, I think Aziz El Sheer with the Texans. But that one seemed to be squashed pretty quickly. Wondering, you know, we haven't heard, like, a guy that's out there, Bobby Wagner, he's. He's available, but he's. He's. There's nothing going on with that. The fact that we're not seeing anything, movement or activity on the free agent side, do you think they're just waiting, kind of waiting to see what happens before the draft and see what. What deal they might be able to get that benefits them?

[Aisha Morrison]

Well, Bobby ain't signing nowhere to. To about August, I mean.

[Marcus Moer]

Well, partly because Bobby Wagner couldn't cover. Uri should, like, that's, please. That's kind of where we're at right now with Bobby Wagner. I think, I think you're right. He's going to be somebody that signs it in August once training camp is over. To a team that has a linebacker need, there's just no reason for Dallas to make that move right now. It just doesn't do much for you.

[Aisha Morrison]

Yeah, but we haven't seen any linebackers go as of right now. I mean, I think the, the, you know, obviously the top guys have already gone in, in free agency and we probably won't see any of these other guys sign till later, like Marcus just said. So the only thing, the only way that I think that Dallas, you know, gets anyone in here is it's going to be via, via trade.

[Jeff Bigs]

So I agree.

[Aisha Morrison]

It's boring otherwise. It is kind of boring right now. I'm sorry. We're trying to make it fun. This is quiet time. It's quiet time.

[Jeff Bigs]

Yeah. Coach, what do you think? Do you think they should just wait it out and kind of see what comes their way?

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

I mean, I don't think they have a choice right now. I mean, they, they played their card and they got trumped. And so, you know, I mean, I, I really don't think there, there's a choice. You know, I, I, I'm from the school that they've, that they've made themselves this, this target of knowing that everything they've got to do is on defense. And I think that's, I think that's a very dangerous position to be in because I think, I mean, let's just say, I mean, what if, what if a running back, what if the number one running back falls to you at 12? I mean, seriously, you tell me you're not going to pull the trigger on that guy.

[Aisha Morrison]

You mentioned the commanders earlier, Coach. I, I thought that he would be on their radar. Jeremiah Love, according to Adam Shepard.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

I don't know, but I mean, I do think that here's, here's what I believe is the NFL is a copycat league. It is a plagiarism business. And I'll ask all of you, let's just throw it out there. If I took Seattle's defense, who they built that defense, free agency, draft. They put that, I put that defense, that same defense, and I put them in Tampa. I think Tampa's offense. You think that team wins the Super Bowl?

[Marcus Moer]

Yeah.

[Jeff Bigs]

Probably have a good chance.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Okay, so the point I'm making is when you, when you shoehorn yourself into having to pick a specific position or a specific side of the ball. I think. I'm telling you, I saw it done. I've seen it done. I've seen Battle Field promotions and guys move up the board. I've seen you put the guys up on the board and then you're sitting there and you're going over every scenario, and then you go home at night and you come back the next day and there's a guy moved four spots up the board for no reason at all. Just a battlefield promotion because you felt like, well, we got to have this. We have got to get ourselves in position to have that. And when you do that, I'm telling you, that's when you. That. That's when you run into the most problem. Just put them up there. And if the guy, whoever it is, because somebody will fall, there'll be somebody fall. And I don't think because of the business being a plagiarism business right now. I don't think it's a defensive guy. I don't. I think those defensive guys are going to peel off early right here, and when they do, you better be ready to pull the trigger. If it is an offensive guy. And I'm not saying that it might not be. I don't. I mean, if I. If I knew that, I'd be out in Vegas and I wouldn't be crapping around here on this show. But I can tell you that the business is plagiarism. And right now, guys are wanting guys that can fly around on defense. And I think that's where you're going to. I believe that's where you're going to see early in this draft. I don't think one of those guys falls to you. I don't think one of those four guys being the top corner in Delane, the top safety and downs, but the two linebackers and Styles and Ardell Reese, I don't think they get to 12.

[Aisha Morrison]

But don't the rest of the league know that the Cowboys was bad on defense last year? Like what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, like, the reason why you, like, don't want to have to draft for need is because you. A lot of it is like, you don't want to have to show your hand. You don't want to have to. You know, you're comp. You're competing. Let's keep it a buck, right? But with them, everybody and they mama know that you need defense. So it's like there's no ambiguity here. I'm asking.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

No, but what I'm saying is, is you don't want to. You don't want to have to put yourself in the position where you pass on a really, really great offensive player because you have a need at defense.

[Aisha Morrison]

All right, that makes sense.

[Jeff Bigs]

Let's. I, I kind of want to go there a little bit. Let's do that when we come back because I want to switch gears, talk about the offense and latest on George Pickens and how his life improved overnight. We'll do that when we come back. This is the Cowboys squad show. Jimmy John's is bringing big Greek energy and your taste buds are about to feel it. Meet the new Greek and chicken heroes. Packed with juicy seasoned meats and cool crisp veggies all wrapped in warm soft pita for a crave worthy bite feeling classic. Go Greek. Want to mix it up? Try the chicken gyro. Either way, your lunch just leveled up. Order online at jimmyjohns.com or on the app today. Oh, that's good. And participating locations for a limited time while supplies last trademark and copyright 2026 Jimmy John's franchise or SPV LLC. All right, well, got to talk to you about FanDuel and what they've got going on because the tournament is here and it's one of the best times of the year. Brackets, buzzer beaters, upsets, really non stop action from tip to final, cut down. And right now FanDuel is giving new customers a way to stay in the action all tournament long. You can bet up to 300, get up to $300 back in bonus bets every day for 10 days. That means 10 chances to stay involved throughout the entire tournament. You can mix it up however you want. Game picks, futures or even same game parlays for bigger potential payouts. It's the perfect tournament. Perfect for the tournament because every day there is something new. Different matchups, new storylines and more ways to get involved as the bracket unfolds. So visit FanDuel.com to sign up today. That's FanDuel.com to get in on the action. All right, we love FanDuel and we love George Pickens, who as we know has been tagged. Sorry, coach. And has until July 15th to get that new deal done. But in the meantime, the defending super bowl champion Seahawks wasted no time. They locked up JSN, making him the highest paid receiver over 168 million over four years. 120 million guaranteed. And that more importantly sets the market resets the receiver market value at over 42 million per season. So, you know, guys, I try to hit you with everything that's out there. Let's just start with that, with where that number is, and then I'll bring it back to Pickens. What was your reaction? I know you guys hit on it earlier today.

[Marcus Moer]

Aisha, why don't you go. I want to hear your thoughts.

[Aisha Morrison]

Well, my initial thoughts were good for him, good for Seattle. Obviously, this is how it's supposed to be done. I mean, I know they got the money too, because they're not paying their quarterback nothing, but they. To get him, you know, locked up for him to come in and work. I mean, it was, it was a pleasure to watch his film pre draft and to see him develop and become, you know, that guy that we thought he was going to be. So good for him. And also too, from the. I mean, I. For the George Pickens side of it, if that's where we're going. Is that where we're going?

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Yes.

[Aisha Morrison]

For the George Pickens side of. Makes it a little bit more stressful. But if, if Pickens goes out and plays on that franchise tag, then he could be putting himself in position to do the exact same thing and just to reset it again, because that's just kind of how things go. But initially I was happy for JSN because he's. He earned it. Truly.

[Jeff Bigs]

Yeah.

[Marcus Moer]

Am I crazy for thinking this shouldn't impact the George Pickens deal at all

[Aisha Morrison]

because they're two different guys?

[Marcus Moer]

Well, I mean, JSN is a better player. He's coming off a Super bowl win. His previous team didn't trade him for a third round pick. Right. Like, it's just, it's different. And, and when we see the numbers, you see $42 million new money, right? Well, yes, that's true, but his new contract really starts in 2028. He still has two years left on his rookie deal, including the fifth year option, which is two years, 26 and a half million. So, yes, it's 42 million, but that doesn't start until 2028. I don't think George Pickens can suddenly ask for, hey, I want 40 or I want 40 million starting in 2026. Like, I don't. It doesn't really work that way.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Right.

[Marcus Moer]

I think the Cowboys are looking at it like, okay, hey, your franchise tag number is 26 million. This year it's 32 million for 2027. If you want to add new money at 34, 35 million a year beyond that, okay, that. Be our guest. But I don't Think this suddenly is going to make it where, okay, now he's got to get $40 million a year on a brand new contract. I just don't think that's logical.

[Aisha Morrison]

I mean, that makes sense.

[Jeff Bigs]

Coach, what do you think?

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Yeah, man, I, I don't think that's, I, I think it's all about, it's all about averages and it's all about numbers and it's all about what you put up. So I, you know, I, I think somewhere is, is where he fits in that, in that puzzle or in that trajectory of guys. You know, I, I, I do, I think that this, because JSN signed this deal that I think that makes George Pickens a forty million dollar player. I do not. But I do think the price of poker went up a little bit because of the, of just the averages of what guys are making now.

[Aisha Morrison]

Well, that's what I was going to say in response to Marcus is like, I, I get what you're saying as you lay it out and break it down in a sense of what Jason's, you know, contract is, his rookie contract, how he's still on all those things. But I do think that, yeah, I mean the market is the market a lot of the time and if Pickens does again go out, bet on himself this year, stays healthy, plays well, it is going to be difficult for people to say that he doesn't deserve that type of money at that point and he's having a second year of hopefully no, you know, showing improvement in maturity that you're, you know, that you think a lot of teams are concerned about.

[Marcus Moer]

Because at that point, yeah, and I was gonna say, honestly, for most players, I advocate just go and get the big contract as soon as you can. Right? Because I mean the quality of life difference between 34 and 40 million a year is not going to be drastic. Right. I mean, at least for me. I mean again, I, I'm speaking just for me, but I, I think for Pickens, I think even if he were to have another Pro bowl caliber season, maybe he doesn't put up the numbers he had last year, but let's say it's 1200 yards and 10 touchdowns, I think you would see teams way more likely to give him more years, more guaranteed money. And I think right now, because it's just been one season and because he was available to the entire league at this time last year for a top 100 pick and nobody wanted him, I, I think, I think the market is more limited than what it would have be for like someone like jsn. Everybody wants jsn. I don't know if everybody wants George Pickens.

[Jeff Bigs]

All right, that's fair.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

I mean, my, my question would be if what is it that you want that you need to buy at that you can't get at 34 million that you need 40 million to get? I mean, what, what is it that you want? Seriously, what, what is it? I mean, that, that, that, that's kind of how I look at that. So I, what do you, what do you need? That, that, that the other one is going to get you. That is going to get you to. That.

[Marcus Moer]

I'll tell you. I can tell you Stretch. Respect. Right? And that's the thing across the league. If you can say that you're the highest paid receiver in the league or the second highest paid receiver in the league, that's what these players care about. And I, I, again, I get it. Like you work all your life to become the best at the position. If you can tell everybody in the league, hey, I'm the highest paid at this spot.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Right. But he's not, but my point about George Pickens, he's, he's, he's probably not even the top five, but I wouldn't go that far.

[Marcus Moer]

But I'm saying if he has another start naming them.

[Aisha Morrison]

Right. Like right now you're going off how they played this year based off how they played this year right now. Oh, it gotta be jsn. I mean, Pickens. I would, who, who would be the third? I mean, the fifth. I mean, you have to get a fifth win.

[Marcus Moer]

I mean, I would, I mean, I'd still put them on Ross St. Brown ahead of him.

[Aisha Morrison]

Oh, well, yeah. I mean, top five, top six.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

You could name six or seven.

[Aisha Morrison]

Yeah.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Why, why would he, I mean, cut it however you want to, but. So why would he want, why would he feel like he, he knows that those agents know that, that.

[Aisha Morrison]

Oh, I agree.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Where he stacks in that group.

[Aisha Morrison]

Well, that's what I was gonna say is that I do, I do think some guys care about, you know, the, I'm the highest paid. But to Marcus's point earlier, a lot of them are trying to get paid. You know what I'm saying? Like, some of them aren't, aren't just fixated on being the highest paid. No, like they, they want to get paid. This is probably the biggest contract of their life, most of them.

[Marcus Moer]

But we also know that being the highest paid doesn't necessarily mean that you're the best player at the position. A lot of it just comes out to when your contract is up. That's what Jack Prescott benefited from. Right? Prescott. His time was up after Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. He greatly benefited from it. So. No, I'm not. But like, I think Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson are the two best receivers in the league. JSN is awesome. Do I think he's $4 million better a year than Justin Jefferson? No, I. I don't. It's just because JSN was drafted after those guys and got paid later. That's just. Unfortunately, that's just.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

If you don't think scamming do winning a Super Bowl.

[Marcus Moer]

Oh, of course it does. But I don't think. Do I think that Chase is a lesser player than jsn? No, I. I don't.

[Jeff Bigs]

I think I might actually. I might take JSN over JJ at this point. Yeah, I would.

[Marcus Moer]

Just because one had JJ McCarthy as their quarterback this year. That's. That was all it was.

[Jeff Bigs]

Okay, we'll see.

[Marcus Moer]

Hey, listen, we saw what Justin Jefferson did when he had Sam Darnold in

[Aisha Morrison]

quarterback getting paid too.

[Marcus Moer]

Oh yeah. That's why Justin Jefferson before this year was the all time leader in receiving yards per game. All time leader. And then he loses Darnold and the numbers crash. Not surprising.

[Jeff Bigs]

So I. I said that I try to hit you guys with everything that's out there. So don't. This is just. This is not my take. This is not my. My thought or conspiracy or whatever. But one thing I have been seeing a lot of online lately, like the last couple of weeks is this notion that the Cowboys are going to draft a stud receiver to replace George Pickens so that the goal is to get a new, young, cheaper receiver and then try to trade him and help the team that way or move on in some way. You see that at all? In any way?

[Marcus Moer]

Aisha.

[Aisha Morrison]

I'm just envisioning somebody like making salsa and then rewind. Then like taking like getting all of the. Being at the store, getting the ingredients all over again. It makes no sense to me. I mean, I will say from the wide receiver position, you did just lose Jason Tolbert. I know that nobody cares, but you know, Ryan Flournoy is still in a developing phase. Yeah. Like, I'm not saying I don't think that wide receiver isn't something that Dallas should not be looking at. I want to make sure. Like Marcus. Do you feel like that? I still think that they should be looking at wide receiver, but to get Michael. Well, I mean, to be replacing him.

[Marcus Moer]

No, I. You should Always be looking at receivers. If we've learned anything through this off season process, is that you can never have too many of these guys. And you get players like Jalen Waddle and DJ Moore getting traded for these massive trade packages. Alec Pierce signs for just under $30 million a year and he would have been the third receiver in Dallas last year at best. Right. I don't think it's the worst strategy in the world to draft these guys early, develop them, get four or five years of service and then move on. Now, can Dallas afford to do that with how bad their defense is? We could have a debate. And this is why they should have been more aggressive in free agency filling these holes. But is there a chance that Carnell Tate is available at 12, who's to me the best receiver in the class? I think so. And should they take him? Again, we can debate. But Ben, that's an awesome, awesome player that you would be passing up at one of the most valuable positions in the NFL.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

I mean, hell yeah, you better take him. If he's there. If you've got him. If you've got him up there and, and he's there, hell yeah, you better pick him.

[Aisha Morrison]

So you're gonna be another. So, so, I mean, but I'm saying like, so if they can't feel they're not going to be able to fill all these gaps on defense, but say the board does fall more offensive and you end up having to do that, are you just going to be a score all the points offense again.

[Marcus Moer]

This is why I hated their free agency period. Right. I'm about to cry because if they would have signed a Kobe Dean and let's say one more quality cornerback, we could be having this discussion about, hey, you just draft the best available player at Tate and then you figure out the receiver position a year from now. But because they have so many holes on defense, it almost makes it where you can't draft a player like Carnell Tate if He's available at 12 because the needs are so prevalent. They put themselves in a really bad situation.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Your organization farther back.

[Marcus Moer]

Right. And that's the problem is, I mean

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

you're, you're, you're, you're, the, you're, you're the, you're the race car that is out of gas, everybody.

[Marcus Moer]

And this is how bad teams continue to cycle. Yep.

[Aisha Morrison]

I think at the very least Dallas needs to, as they're trying to do right now, looks like they at least need to tackle linebacker or defensive end. They like they have to supplement one of those spots. I do believe if they do supplement one of those spots, I think they help themselves out with the Kobe Durant pickup and then. What was the other gentleman's name from Denver? Yeah, P.J. lock. I think that they help themselves in the safety room, in the corner room. I'm not as stressed out about those. To me, it's really linebacker and defensive end. I. I would feel so much better if they were able to acquire somebody from either one of those positions going into the draft because I think I would feel less like what you gentlemen are talking about then personally.

[Jeff Bigs]

It's all come back full circle. Like, we kind of started the show wondering, know, what do they do if there's some offensive talent there? And now here we are.

[Marcus Moer]

Watch

[Aisha Morrison]

them do it, too.

[Jeff Bigs]

All right, when we come back, want to talk to you about that number 12 spot and kind of get the latest. I know we're in full draft mode right now, but I want to weigh in on, you know, what you guys are thinking and what, what's standing out to you. Also, as Aisha mentioned, they're doing the visits and the pro days and all that, so we'll get into that as well. Thanks for being with us. This is the Cowboys squad show. Not to brag or anything, But Arby's new $7.99 meat and three box is kind of a big deal. The other guys give you just one side. We give you three sides. Not to brag. You get a meaty sandwich, curly fries, Mott sticks, a sweet treat, and a drink, all for just 7.99. It's more meal for your money. More meal for your money. More meal for your money. Where'd that come from?

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[Jeff Bigs]

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[Glenn Stretch Smith]

What, what's.

[Jeff Bigs]

Anything that, that seems to be a common theme. Anything standing out, maybe anybody grabbing your attention that maybe you weren't thinking of before you started the process.

[Marcus Moer]

One of my favorite things is, Jeff, is that we, we get, we fall in love with these players in January and February. And I remember back in January, it was okay, hey, Sonny Styles, if he's available at 20, that's a, that's, that's the pick. Monsor Delaine, if he's available at pick 12, that's how you got to pick. And then we get closer to the combine and Sunny Styles is in every single mock draft of the Dallas Cowboys. He has a huge combine and now there's no chance he gets there. Monsoon Delaine runs a 4, 3 9. I believe it was the 40 yard dash today at LSU's Pro Day, and now there's no chance that he's there. Right? So this is part of the draft cycle, right? Is guys that we love keep shooting up boards and you never think they're going to follow you at 12. But as of right now, I think there is a scenario that's playing out where maybe your top targets, whether that's David Bailey, Caleb Downs, Monsour Delaine and Sonny Styles, are all gone by 12. Where do the Cowboys pivot? Do they go to the safety room and they. Do they draft someone like Dylan Thieneman who checks a lot of boxes? Do they look at linebacker and draft a CJ Allen much higher than anybody has them projected, or do they simply just sit there and draft the best player available? Maybe it's a Spencer Fano, maybe it's a Francis Moinoa from Miami. I will say the more that I look at this draft, the more I feel like the Cowboys are going to bail out of that 12th pick and maybe they're going to have to take 75 cents on the dollar, 70 cents on the dollar to trade back. But I think it makes the most sense for a team. Maybe that has A wide receiver need to jump up to 12 ahead of the Rams and get one of these premier receivers and for the Cowboys to drop back, add another day two pick and then see what's available at 17, 18, 19.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

I mean, I think that's exactly what's going to happen. I think.

[Aisha Morrison]

Yeah, coach has been saying that for a while.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

I believe, I believe you're going to see one of those offensive guys will, will be there at 12 and I believe their phone will blow up. That, that's, that, that's what I think, that that's exactly where. And I think, and I think when the phone blows up, you make it expensive as hell for somebody to go up and get the guy they're in love with. Because I do, I do believe that. I mean, there's a possibility that one of those offensive guys will be there. I'm just from the school, from studying this and from knowing what a plagiarism game this is, that I think you're going to see guys draft defense and get after defense early when you see the teams that are in front of the Cowboys. So with that being said, I think it's absolutely a possibility that at 12, one of those big time offensive guys, I don't think it's the running back because I think the running back is better than the back that went at six last year and significantly better.

[Marcus Moer]

I agree with you on that.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Yes. And so with that being said, I don't think where Genti went at six a year ago, I don't think he get Love gets to 12 if he does. Now that's what you want to happen from the Cowboy standpoint because then you're going to have multiple takers who are going to want to jump up and you make that pick expensive. And now all of a sudden you can address, I think, multiple needs.

[Marcus Moer]

Well, let me ask you this, coach, though, I agree with you on Jeremiah Love. He's an awesome prospect. I think he's a better prospect than Ash and Genti. But I don't know how many teams would be wanting to trade up for a running back. And when you look at those teams in the teens and the early 20s, most of them have their running back situation, you know, filled out, whereas I think there's a lot of teams that need receivers. And if it's somebody like, I'm going to keep mentioning Carnell Tate because I think he's the cleanest of all the receivers. If it's CARNELL Tate at 12, I think you could have six or seven different teams interested in him because I'll

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

play the game with you, whoever offensive player.

[Marcus Moer]

I, if you want the Cowboys to trade down, I think it's a receiver that you want to be available when they're on the clock at 12. That's, that's my know.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm simply making the statement that this running back is significantly better than the guy that went six a year ago. Whether you think or don't think or anybody does or doesn't think it's running back, that, that, that that guy's a bell cow. I mean, he is, he is a franchise back. And so, you know, my, my gut feeling is I hope both of them are there at 12. I hope both of them are there at 12 because your phone will blow up and now you are. And that's how you, I mean, you're either the damn hammer or you're the nail. And when your phone starts ringing a bunch, you're grabbing the hammer. You ain't the nail anymore.

[Aisha Morrison]

Now, I agree. I think, I think that you want a wide receiver to be on the board because like we talked about, I just don't think any of the, I don't think anyone is in need of a tackle that bad and to that extent. But I, I will say a trend that I have seen as of late, especially from some of the bigger media draft guys, is that that corner from Tennessee, Jamar McCoy, being mocked to the Cowboys repeatedly. And that is becoming something that we are seeing often. I just wonder how you gentlemen felt about that.

[Marcus Moer]

So I believe Tennessee has their pro Day this week. I'm trying to confirm.

[Aisha Morrison]

No, it's a big deal.

[Marcus Moer]

So, yeah, Tennessee's Pro day is later this, I'm sorry, March 31st. So we've got a little bit. If Jermond McCoy doesn't participate at the, in the Pro Day @mar on March 31, I think you can absolutely cross him off the board because that means he skipped out in the Senior bowl, did not play the 2025 season due the injury. So skipped out of season, didn't play the Senior bowl, didn't do anything at the combine, didn't do anything at the Pro Day. We know how the Cowboys feel about red shirt players. Jerry Jones told us as much. I just don't think they're going to draft a cornerback that hasn't played in that long. I mean, maybe they, they'll surprise me, but he's a guy that I know is being mocked a lot to Dallas. I just wonder if that's just a lot of times mock drafters putting him inside the top 15 because they know he's going to go high and the Cowboys have a cornerback need rather than it being a good fit.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Yeah, from what I understand, he, he, he, he has still got some medical, there's, there's some medical questions there. I, I don't believe there's any chance at, I mean, I think he, and you'll, you'll know when it's pro day, but I, I think there's a chance here that, that, that, that, that there's a really good chance that that's not happening at 12.

[Aisha Morrison]

Interesting. I feel like from, from my understanding of things and different stuff is that's, there's a lot of mixed things. I guess that's going on. I'll, I'll say that as much and with the Jamar McCoy thing as a whole we've talked about his pro day is huge. He is going to perform. He is going to work at his

[Marcus Moer]

pro day for sure, though, he needs to, honestly, he needs to do something because there's just no way that at this point you can avoid it.

[Jeff Bigs]

So with all that said, I'm wondering like with where the Cowboys are sitting that, you know, maybe, maybe they've made some calls about maybe moving down, maybe making a deal with, with one of their picks to get a starting linebacker. But maybe, maybe they want to wait. Maybe they want to wait and see what happens.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

You don't want to make, you don't want to make any calls. You want somebody calling you.

[Jeff Bigs]

Yeah.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

You don't want, you don't want. You don't, you don't want to be the buyer at this point. You want to be the seller.

[Jeff Bigs]

Yeah. So maybe they can make a move and get a linebacker at the same time. Two for one, right?

[Marcus Moer]

That's, yeah, that's. Would that be fun? It'd be great.

[Jeff Bigs]

All right, let's, let's take our final time out. When we come back, our final thoughts and final segment on the Cowboys squad show.

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[Marcus Moer]

Yeah, so first of all, we're going to talk about some of the pro days that happened today and some of the ones that are coming up this week because they have a big impact on what the Cowboys are going to do early on in this draft. We'll also touch on the George Pickens news, so make sure you guys listen to that. And then later in the week, we're going to talk about some more prospects that are maybe going under the radar a little bit. The Cowboys could consider at pick 20, including Malachi Lawrence, a pass rusher from UCF. We're also going to talk about some more options and edge rushers that are going to be available on day two in case they don't get the guy on day one. So make sure you guys check that out.

[Jeff Bigs]

All right? Aisha, how about you? I know you guys are. You're diving into everything on your shows.

[Aisha Morrison]

Yeah, I mean, we'll have the the stack with Brian Broadus and Zach wchuk. I think that it will be dropping on Thursday and then also to on Saturday. So I don't know what we're talking about this week. Probably talking about these pro days because pro days are really important now.

[Jeff Bigs]

Yeah, yeah, they're underway and also the visits are underway as well. And the Cowboys get. Every team gets 30. Right. So, sir, do they. Do they keep. I mean, do they publicly. Is there.

[Marcus Moer]

They're not publicly public, but we'll get you all 30 of them, don't you worry.

[Aisha Morrison]

Yeah, yeah, they're not public.

[Jeff Bigs]

Good.

[Aisha Morrison]

We find out.

[Jeff Bigs]

Nice. That's what I want.

[Marcus Moer]

Players also like to tell you where they're going. So, I mean, if this used to be a really hush hush thing like five or six years ago, we're gonna know this whole list in the next week and a half.

[Jeff Bigs]

Okay, and is there a point in April when they like to be done with everything and cut it off? As far as usually.

[Marcus Moer]

They usually like to have them done by the end of the second week of April, if not sooner, just because at that point they want to have all of your evaluations done. They want to start, you know, making phone calls about trades. They want to be building their board, getting into these simulations. But yeah, generally by the second week of April, they want to be all done with these 30 visits.

[Jeff Bigs]

Now, are the visits the same? Can you work out at a visit or is that separate? Or can you just do a visit without the workout? Can you do both?

[Marcus Moer]

I, I don't believe you can work out anymore. Is that right, Aisha?

[Aisha Morrison]

Coach, I mean, yeah, I mean, the last time I checked, it wasn't something that was happening like that anymore.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Yeah, no, it's not working out. It's, it's more, it's more the mental side, the visiting side, those kind of things.

[Jeff Bigs]

Okay, so the only workouts are at the pro days.

[Marcus Moer]

Yeah, there will be a couple players that schedule private workouts. Right. But that's not part of the 30 visits. And really the 30 visits are, hey, get them in your building, have them talk to positional coaches, have them meet some players, tour the facility. That's really what it is. It's more of a get to know you phase. And the guys that the Cowboys bring in, they're not all 30 guys are going to be ones that they're interested in necessarily. It's guys that they're maybe need to get some more information on or maybe they want to get another medical check or they want to see how the personality would fit. Don't just assume because the Cowboys are bringing in a guy for a visit automatically means that he's on their short list of guys are targeting in the draft.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Now, I don't know if you're. Y' all are confused with this or not. They will have Jeff, they'll have a Dallas day's workout, but that's more, you know, for free agent, you know, last round guys. And it has to be, they have to be from, you know, a certain radius from around the Metroplex. And. And when those guys come in, they'll. They'll work those guys out a little bit.

[Jeff Bigs]

That more like a tryout?

[Aisha Morrison]

Well, no, they just utilize it as a, you know, it's just another pool, another opportunity.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

But, I mean, they're. They're, you know, they're going to look at them, run and. And do those kind of things. Throw, catch, that kind of stuff.

[Jeff Bigs]

Okay, right on.

[Marcus Moer]

And I believe I have their Dallas Day list of guys that are going to be available, and I believe Anthony Hill Jr. From Texas will be one of the Dallas days. Most of the first and second round guys that are there aren't going to be working out. It's really for, like, day three guys and undrafted free agents that, hey, you have them work out and you talk to positional coaches and, hey, if you don't get drafted, make sure you call us the moment the draft is over and we'll work out a deal.

[Aisha Morrison]

Yeah. And Dallas is one of the more aggressive teams in undrafted free agency. We see them go out every year and go pick up guys. So, you know, Dallas Day is kind of a big deal for those guys.

[Jeff Bigs]

All right, so we kind of started the show of. Okay, the Cowboys still have this need at linebacker. I. I feel like I say this a lot, but I think it's important to. To say it. And that is. I mean, if we're talking about this and we're kicking it around and we're saying, man, I wish they would have been able to do this or they would have been able to do that, but they didn't, clearly. The Cowboys and Will McClay in the front office, they're kicking all that around and they're trying to come up with a way to salvage this and find a way to make it a plus as they head into the season. Just from our vantage point, it's hurry up and wait, right? We gotta wait, wait now for the draft. We're in draft mode, and then we'll kind of see what happens draft night and then maybe afterwards.

[Marcus Moer]

This is one of my favorite times of the year, Jeff, because I. This is a silly season when it comes to the draft, right. You start hearing guys like, hey, Ty Simpson might be the best quarterback in the draft, or, hey, this guy's gonna fall outside the top 20 picks. And it's. It's all nonsense, but it's all so much fun. And this is partly why I enjoy the draft process so much.

[Aisha Morrison]

I'm glad that you find it humorous because it get on my damn nerve.

[Marcus Moer]

Well, I mean, I. I find it funny because it's so easy to sift through some of this stuff. Like, if you just do an ounce of research, you can see where some of this stuff is coming from. But every once in a while, there'll be a. A little news or a little tidbit that comes out that makes you think. And I remember, like. But give credit to somebody. Todd McShay last year said, hey, there's no chance the Giants are drafting Shador Sanders in the first round or second round. And that was considered a big deal. At this time last year, we didn't know that Shador Sanders was going to fall all the way to the fifth round. But I think there are. There are some things that will start getting leaked that will have a big impact on the draft.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Where, Marcus, where'd you go to college?

[Marcus Moer]

Edinburgh University, baby. Did you.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Did you find yourself scheduling your classes around so that you could hear like, sand through the hourglass?

[Marcus Moer]

Of course I did, baby. And then there's passions on at 2:00 Eastern Time. Yeah, it was General Hospital. Love them all.

[Aisha Morrison]

Y' all are a mess.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

That right there tells you all you need to know. He is.

[Marcus Moer]

You want to make sure I'm back by that 1pm Eastern time slot just

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

so you can hear it. Like, saying through the hourglass

[Marcus Moer]

was up to, you know. I got it.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Yeah, I did it. I can tell you. I did it around the Gong show wanted to see my man Chuck Barris. That. That's what I wanted. I. I wanted out of class by 10 so I could see. I could. I can check out the Gong Show.

[Aisha Morrison]

Just invite each other over to each other's house and show each other your

[Marcus Moer]

yard and have a chili dog.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

I said that. That's just. I mean, it's obvious that he likes the drama of it. So, I mean, you just kind of go down that. Go down that street with it.

[Marcus Moer]

I used to stretch. Shows me a picture of his pool every other day. What are you talking about?

[Aisha Morrison]

I. I believe it. Like, I feel like y' all would have a great time just spending time and hanging out.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

See, now you're. Now you're wanting to be Chuck Barris. You're trying.

[Aisha Morrison]

No, no. I don't even know what that. That is.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

You're trying to set up some sort of an afternoon meeting.

[Aisha Morrison]

No, I don't even know who that is.

[Jeff Bigs]

I.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Obviously, I got it.

[Aisha Morrison]

Well, Chuck Norris as well. You made me think about Chuck Norris.

[Jeff Bigs]

Chuck had one of the great lines of all time in one of his movies. I think it was the USA movie. He said, I'll hit you with so many rights you'll beg me for a left. That's a good line. Great lines. You know, we have not heard anything on Max Crosby at all. Like zero. Except his posts just like saying he's ready and, and he's a Raider.

[Marcus Moer]

He's going to be a Raider this year. That's, I think, the end of it. I, I just don't see any team trading for him until we actually put the pads on and start playing football here in September.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Yeah, and that is, I, I, I mean, I know that they want to, you know, there's, there's a lack of synergy for people wanting to put stuff out there right now. I just, I, I mean, I'm just from the school that, I mean, he, you know, did he or didn't he flunk the physical? I mean, obviously there was a red flag that was run up and I think he's, he's going to go back and be a Raider. And that's, you know what they're, they're in a good position and now they need a quarterback. And you know, I just, to me, I don't see any chance that Dallas would throw the kind of, you know, the kind of what I feel like it would be number at the Raiders. It's going to make them get off of Max Crosby.

[Aisha Morrison]

I don't, I, this is, this is a whole nother situation. Just because I want to say it to you guys. Are you guys worried about what's happening at the quarterback position right now? You guys worried about the. No, no, no. I'm talking about the NFL in general. Are we worried about the lack of sustainable development right now and the fact that these next two drafts are not necessarily good quarterback. I mean, like, we just. The fact that some of these quarterbacks that are in the market right now are starters.

[Marcus Moer]

Not for me, because the Cowboys have their quarterback.

[Aisha Morrison]

I know, but I'm saying as football overall, are you concerned with where.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

I mean, I would say that I'm, I mean, I'm more concerned about, like, why can't guys, why can't defensive backs backpedal? Why does Revel have such a hard time coming in here and understanding how to pedal? Why do, why do some offensive linemen play three years of college football and never get in a three point stance? Everything they do is out of a two point stance. I mean, I think there's, there's definitely, if you're asking Aisha, is there a need for a developmental situation, 100% there is. But you know, until in my mind, I mean, we can start opening a whole nother can of worms here, but I mean, until they change the portal and how many times you can go in and out of this portal and when you can transfer and you know, the lack of development because college football always has been a minor leagues for the NFL and right now they're not

[Aisha Morrison]

doing like that anymore.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

Guys ready for the next level?

[Aisha Morrison]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I was really asking. All right, let's go.

[Glenn Stretch Smith]

There's that. Absolutely. There's some truth to that.

[Aisha Morrison]

Okay. Sorry, I didn't mean to bring y' all down and stuff.

[Jeff Bigs]

No, it's okay. That's all right. We will leave it there and we'll bring that back at another time. But as always, thank you to all of you for listening and watching. And Marcus, Aisha, coach, always a blessing to me to get to work with. You have a great rest of the week. Again. Marcus and Landon, you're coming up the rest of the week. Check out Aisha on her shows and we will be back with you again a little bit later on Thursday night because we've got the Rangers baseball their opening day, but we'll be back this week. And again, thank you for being with us. This has been the Cowboys squad show.

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[Marcus Moer]

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