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Dallas Cowboys DEFENSE Unleashes New Scheme | New Stars SHINE vs. Raiders!
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Dallas Cowboys defense looks revitalized after Monday Night Football, fueled by Quinnen Williams’ force-multiplying presence and bold personnel changes. Can this aggressive new approach put the Cowboys on a championship trajectory?
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Marcus Mosher
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Pricing and exclusive savings to supply your job site and protect your bottom line. The Home Depot it's about time. The new look Cowboys defense looked pretty good on Monday Night Football. We'll tell you why it was such a big improvement next. You are Locked On Cowboys, your daily Dallas Cowboys podcast, part of the Locked On Podcast network. Your team every day. Welcome back to the Locked on Cowboys podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast network. Your team every day. We are now the number one sports podcast network and today's episode is brought to you by FanDuel. Right now, new customers can bet just $5 and if your bet wins, you'll get 300 in bonus bets to use across the app. Welcome back. I am your host Marcus Mosher. He is Landon McCool. And on today's show we are reviewing the Cowboys Monday Night Football win over the Las Vegas Raiders. We're going to talk about some notes that we saw from the Cowboys offensive line. We'll talk about their two new cornerbacks. Kaylin Carson, not really new, but new to the starting lineup. And Savon Revel. But I thought we should first start 10,000 foot view on this Cowboys defense. It looks so different compared to what we saw like in week one, in week two, not only the personnel but also how Matty is using a lot of these guys.
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Marcus Mosher
Yeah, I mean I think you know, he it you could tell that the, the defensive game caller had more confidence in the players that were being deployed. Right. And that that was a bigger part of this and that that it was. There was a lot more key timed blitzes, like a lot more trusting the guys to kind of line up in the face of their receivers. You know, just like if you're, if you were kind of examining somebody's body language, right. And, and seeing how comfortable they are and if they're kind of, you know, standing in the corner and like, talking to themselves and looking down on the floor versus, you know, you know, chin up, speaking confidently and looking people in the eyes, you notice a difference. And I think that's the equivalent of what we saw from the play caller is a guy who felt good about the tools he was using, knew what he was trying to accomplish. And. And look, we're going to talk about this throughout this podcast. Obviously, the context of who they played is a part of that, but it's not even. It's not all of it. Right. They came into that game feeling like they were gonna do something, and they had a plan that they felt like was going to work and that they had improved the personnel and. And you could see that, the way they called the gameplay.
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Landon McCool
Yeah, and it's just. It was different. It just looked so much more aggressive rather than being passive, like they were the first two months of the season. And again, maybe the Raiders played a big part of that, but there's just. There was a level of confidence, as you mentioned, from this unit. And one of the things, and one of the reasons why we were excited about the Quinn and Williams trade, outside of just getting Quinn and Williams, which is he's obviously a superstar, is that you felt like he could be a force multiplier for this team, where the players around him could start to, you know, maybe reach their potential. And I think the best example of that is OSA Digizua, who has had a. Okay season. I think he's been a little bit up and down in the first game with Quinn and Williams. He has a career high eight pressures, looks like the best player that we've seen him, you know, the best version of him we've seen so far. And I think the hope is that you have this awesome player in Quinn, Williams, and he can kind of bring up Oso Digizua as well.
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Marcus Mosher
Well, and I think that that applies across the board, too. Right. We'll. We'll talk a little bit about the cornerbacks later, but I think with Logan Wilson and Demar and Overshone, it's not that they came in there and played as fantastic as Quinn and Williams, but. But the fact that you had those guys out there and they were part of a heavy rotation, and it limited the exposure that you had to some of the more problematic elements of your linebacker core. So, yeah, I think it's. It's not only just the improved talent that you've got, it's the fact that those improved talent are keeping the. The kind of, you know, common perpetrators the guys that you see like are constantly the, the ones that, that are, that are, that are making the, the mistakes. They, they're still playing, but they're not playing, you know, 40 snaps anymore. They've been pulled back to 10 to 15, which in some cases solved a lot of ills for those guys. Right. Like they, they, you know, for Kenneth Murray, it felt like that was an appropriate amount of snaps before you felt like you were overexp. Exposing him for Sam Williams, like, you know, you know, he still saw the same kind of knuckleheaded stuff on, on bootlegs and an inability to kind of keep contained at times. But you did see him kind of, you know, get in there and be able to limit the, the, the amount of downside that you're exposing yourself to while still getting a guy that is an athlete who can get up field and can pressure the quarterback. So yeah, I think it's, it's twofold. It's, it's the increased talent obviously, but it's also just being able to be a little more selective with some key guys on your team that can be a little bit high variance.
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Landon McCool
Brian Schottenheimer promised that there was going to be changes coming out of the bye week. And one of the changes is James Houston was basically a full time starter. This was somebody who was getting, you know, like 12 to 15 snaps a game before the bye week. 28 snaps in this game. He had more than Dante Fowler. Dante Fowler had just 11 snaps. He, he had more than Sam Williams who had 26 snaps. Snaps. He had more than Jadevion Clowney who played quite a few snaps in this game as well. But it feels like your top three defensive ends in terms of snaps at least in this game and maybe moving forward are Donovan ezraku who played 32 snaps, Jadavian Clowney and James Houston and the other guys are just gonna rotate it.
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Marcus Mosher
Yeah, I mean we may want to be a little bit careful here just because of the timing of the season where we are we right before the group of where you're about to play three games and what is it, 17 days or something like that?
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Landon McCool
Four. Four games in 18 days.
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Marcus Mosher
That's what it was. Four games in 18 days. So I do think and game script obviously has a huge part of it. So. But I do think you're right that they're certainly treating Houston like a guy that they're prioritizing getting onto the field. He's not just relief, he's a guy that they're, you know, trying to get him on There trying to get him rushing the passer to take advantage of that. I think specifically when it comes to a guy like Fowler who only played 13, you know, I think it's 13 or 14 snaps, 11 snaps. I think, I think they were specifically trying to keep, keep him fresh because they, they, you know that they need him throughout the, the next few weeks. But you're right, like I, I do think that that just like, like we talked about their stance, the way that they were handling Houston, they, they were trying to get him on the field for key downs and, and you know, he rewarded them with a really good game.
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Landon McCool
All right, let's talk about the defensive tackles because we saw an uptick in the number of defensive tackles on the field. We can go through the snap counts if you want. Clinton Williams 33 OSO dig 40. Kenny Clark was at 38 snaps. Jtoia was at 13 snaps. No Solomon Thomas in this game as he deals with a calf injury. We should mention Perry on Winfrey and he was added to the active roster on Tuesday. We'll see if he plays against the Eagles on Sunday. But it seems like Matt Eber FL is opening up this defense and we're going to see more three defensive tackle looks over the next two months.
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Marcus Mosher
Yeah, they dropped Simone Clark so that's one less linebacker just numbers wise that they have and yeah, added another defensive tackle. And if you look at where the talent is stacked right now, I mean it's all a defensive tackle. It's. We're in the upside down now, Marcus. I don't know what's going on. So yeah, it's, it's, it does look like the, the plan is to lean into this a little bit and I think that, you know, we saw a kind of normalization of the uses usage of three defensive tackles. Maybe a little bit down from what we saw last week when they were getting ready. But I think again that probably was because of game script. Right. But it's still at somewhere. We, we. Matt, Marcus and I did a nice little exercise before the, before the show trying to figure out exactly around what the percentage was. We came up with about 15 of the plays. We saw at least three defensive tackles on the field. And I think what you saw is that they, they, they moved OSA around a little bit, right. That you saw him lining up a little bit as a, as a defensive end. I think it was somewhere in the area of, of 20 snaps at defensive at you know, a 5 tech, let's call it that kind of defensive end and, and, and, and you know, I think that that's the way you kind of handle this, right? You, you know, you have your normal allotted two defensive tackle snaps where you, you're going to heavily rotate those three guys. You're going to have a couple of extra possessions or a series where you're going to play three defensive tackles. But all three of those guys are going to get plenty of opportunity to get lots of snaps and they're not going to be wanting for anything as we saw on Monday night.
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Landon McCool
And maybe it's just going to be matchup dependent like you play Philadelphia this week. I think the best way to beat Jalen Hurts is to keep him in the pocket and try to squeeze the pocket. So maybe we see more of those three defensive tackle looks because guys like Solomon Thomas and Ose de Gizua are like 280 pounds. They can play on the edge because they've got enough quickness. Maybe we see more of those looks and, you know, just rotating these guys in to keep them fresh. So an interesting wrinkle for Matt Eberfluis. We'll see if it continues. Let's talk about the Cowboys new cornerbacks because Savon Ravel and Kaylin Carson played a whole lot of snaps on Monday Night Football. We'll tell you how those guys performed next.
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Latest accessories and displays like the Alienware 32.4K QD OLED gaming monitor. Visit alienware.com deals before these limited time savings end. Welcome back to the Lotton Cowboys Podcast. We'd like to thank you for making us your first listen of the day. For the your second listen, check out the Locked On NFL Podcast. Two shows every single day. One in the Morning with Tyler Roland, One in the Afternoon with Tony Wiggins. Available wherever you get your podcast. All right. L let's talk about the Cowboys cornerbacks because man this is, it's so different compared to what we saw earlier in the year. Week one against Philadelphia. Ky. Elam played 100% of the defensive snaps. Trayvon Diggs played a good percentage of that. Ron Bland played in the slot and those were your three corners this week. Kyre Elam was active but did not play a single snap on defense. Instead, it was Kaylin Carson who played every snap for the Cowboys. On the outside you had Duron Bland as one of your starting cornerbacks. Savon Revel rotated in and played 19 snaps. You still had ready. Stewart Bridges did not play at all. He was a healthy scratch. How do you think Carson and Ravel played in this one?
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Marcus Mosher
Well, I let me just start with the fact that I think that what Kaylin Carson did on Monday night was the most impressive feat of all the guys that were coming back and or additions except for Quinn and Williams. Right. Like I, I, I mean for him to go from not playing to playing, I think, I think it was like only 15 snaps or 20 snaps last week. Nine right to to 60 snaps. Like and being the full time starter and, and, and playing good, playing absolutely fine like some of the, the best football we've seen him play. He had a pass breakup in the end zone like, like you know, was and I went back and watched the tape and he, and he was where he was supposed to be. There was a time when he was running a crosser and his guy got caught up and he was ahead of the spot, knew exactly where he was supposed to be. I, I just felt like he's just playing with a level of confidence that we haven't seen since we, his rookie season, early on in training camp, the, the regular season and, and I think if you can get him. And then. Yeah, we talked about Ravel, who I think at first looked, you know, a little bit nervous. Right? Just had some kind of.
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Landon McCool
Yeah, for sure.
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Marcus Mosher
Well, I, I would call it just more like he was like on his toes and just like bouncing around and like nervous energy. Right. And then definitely, definitely settled down. But he looks comfortable, you know, sitting down and pressing. It looks comfortable operating in zone and operating in space. He's got it for sure. It's just a matter of kind of getting him up to speed and getting him used to this, getting him used to the speed of the NFL. But yeah, to go out there and see Carson, to play 60 snaps like that was, was just not what I expected, especially after all the heavy rotation we see from everyone else. And it's just, I think it's everything to do with, with the way he's playing football right now.
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Landon McCool
Are you surprised that Elam didn't get any snaps in this game?
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Marcus Mosher
No, because I, I think, you know, if you had seen these guys kind of struggle a little bit more, I think you probably, I mean, you know what you've got in Elam at this point. Right? Like, so there's no like investigation or kind of development that you're trying to get done there. I think you, you, you had some questions about what you saw in Kaylin Carson after a good performance in week nine and, and getting him into some snaps. And I think once he was out there and he just kind of continued to play well, they've, they let him continue to play out. I mean, he started. So they clearly had a plan for him to play a lot of, of snaps and I, I think, you know, he, he just continued to play well, so they kept him out there.
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Landon McCool
Well, I think everything that the Cowboys are doing is with an eye towards 20, 26, right?
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Marcus Mosher
Yeah.
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Landon McCool
Under contract. Savon Ravel is under contract. Duron Bland is under contract. Kyrie Elam is not. And I think Elam has had plenty of opportunities to show whether he's going to be the guy. He's played for almost 500 snaps. He only played 350 last year for Buffalo. 210 the year before that. We kind of just know what he is at this point and it's a below average starting cornerback. Maybe he can be a good reserve and you don't really need him right now because you've got some guys back. You've got Ready Stewart who you like in the slot. I think this is probably just what it's going to be for Elam the rest of the season. What about Ravel though? Like, what's, what's the right way for the Cowboys to develop him this season? Because again, he played 19 snaps on Monday night. Do you try to make him a full time starter? Do you keep upping the snaps? Do you rotate them in? What would you like to see Dallas do here?
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Marcus Mosher
Yeah, I mean look, it's going to be a pretty serious step up from the Raiders to the Eagles right next week. So I, I think that they just have to be careful with him, you know, and, and just, I, I think they have been careful with him and, and maybe that's with the idea of, hey, when you're back, you're back. Right? Like, and, and let's, let's. And they've, they've, they've done the ramping that they need to do for him as a rookie who's never played in the NFL before, who played at ECU last year. But I wouldn't be shocked if, if next week he played 30 snaps, 35 snaps as opposed to, I think what would you say he played 20 or.
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Landon McCool
Something 19 snaps, which, which. What's going to be hard is Philadelphia just doesn't use a lot of three receiver sets. So maybe you just are using fewer and fewer corners and maybe it's just Kaylin Carson and Bland in a lot of these situations on at the same time. You've got so many games coming up in a short amount of time. Maybe the strategy is just to rotate him and keep him at that like 15 to 20 snap mark. So that way you're just not putting a bunch of miles on his body in two weeks.
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Marcus Mosher
Well, I'll tell you this much. I think the big difference that you can see physically in this defense with the corner position is, is physicality. Right. Like I think you see it with Kaylin Carson, who's absolutely not afraid to throw his body around and make tackles. I think Revel, from what I saw on tape, certainly doesn't have any problem with that and is a bigger guy. So you know, again, in a weak win the run game and tackling is going to be important against Saquon Barkley and the tight ends in Philadelphia. I, I think you may see him kind of come in here and, and might have to play. Yeah, because you know, again, it's a, it's a difficult assignment. Obviously, whenever you're Talking about playing A.J. brown on a rookie or, or Smith, honestly, I mean either one of those guys like you don't want to have facing the rookie for completely opposite reasons. But I think he's got to go out there. He's going to face them two times a year for the rest of his career, hopefully. And so you need to get kind of throw them into the water at this point and, and just see if he can swim.
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Landon McCool
I've got one more note on the defensive backs before we move on. I want to talk about the offensive line, but Malik Hooker and Donovan Wilson being back, I know those guys have both had down years compared to what we're used to seeing, but it just goes to show how, how big the difference in the NFL can be from an average starter to some of the bottom of the roster guys and guys that you pick up off the practice squad. The back end was just so much more sound. You didn't have big coverage breaks. You had guys that were driving on the football making plays. And even Maris Bell, he had the interception. But there's a bit. And I like Marcus Bell a lot. There's a big drop off between Donovan Wilson and Marcus Bell and it's something just to kind of remember going into next year's draft cycle because like. Well, I'm just thinking like I don't even love drafting safeties in round one, but getting a safety. Well, I, getting like a, an above average safety when you've had awful safety play all year long can really solve a lot of issues.
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Marcus Mosher
Yeah, absolutely it can. And I, I don't understand this weird thing that's going on, this cold war that's going on between NFL ownership and all NFL safeties apparently. Yeah, but yeah, I, I think, I agree like the way the, that the defensive back end looked, especially with Hooker, I, I mean he just like it just brings a level of, of competency in the back end.
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Landon McCool
There's a grown up back there which is.
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Marcus Mosher
Yeah, exactly right. And, and, and I, I just think when Hooker's not right and the Cowboys were, have been really, really lucky that, that they've gotten a long stretch of healthy monthly Hooker, the Colts certainly didn't get very much of that when he was there. And so what now that he's getting a little banged up every once in a while, we're seeing it. The play degrades a little bit, but he's coming back a little bit healthier. And you saw that and you're reminded this is why we have him on the field. And Wilson, you know, still a high variance player, probably becoming more high variance through the years, but yeah, just at least knowing what to do and usually making pretty solid tackles when he arrives.
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Landon McCool
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Landon McCool
Welcome back to the Locon Cowboys podcast. We'd like to thank you for making us the number one sports podcast network. Lena, let's dive into some other notes from this game and I want to go to the offensive line. It's been a while since we've had a really good Tyler Guyton game, but this might have been the best game that he's played as a pro.
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Marcus Mosher
Yeah, I think, you know, finally just healthy, you know, just probably feeling good after the first for the first time in a long time, you know, had a rush back to make it back to the, to the regular season and, and obviously didn't quite make it all the way back and then, you know, just thrown into the fire and, and just kind of not feeling good. I think he was battling through it for a long time, long periods of the season, but I think it was good for him. You know, like he, he, because he played decently, he's definitely playing his best football. He's. You're still continuing to see a progression. It sort of flattened a little bit after the injury, but I think he's come out of it and you're seeing, you know, look, it's, it's not always the cleanest technique, but it's not always going to be the cleanest technique. And the point is, is that he understands the point. He, he knows what he's doing. They're using him as the lead blocker, the tip of the spear on some of these runs and, and he's able to get onto his guy, seal him off and completely wall off the defender on his side. So I just think that as time has gone on, he's learning more and more how to use the tools at his disposal to improvise, which is a big part of what you have to do when you're an offensive tackle facing some of the best athletes in the world. And I think he's doing a good job of, you know, taking advantage of every opportunity, whether it's you making sure that the guy is all the way down on the ground in a, on a rub play or making sure that you go all the way down on the ground when you get punched in the face and the ref's looking at you. I think, you know, he's doing all the little stuff that you need to kind of win the ball game.
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Landon McCool
And I think he's progressed over the last month or so. I mean, at least compared to early in the season. If you just look at like the raw numbers from Pro Football Focus, three QB hits allowed since Week 5. I know he's missed some time in there, but he's just settling down. He still has his flaws, but you're starting to see him turn the corner as a pass blocker. It's going to be a real challenge this week against the Eagles with Nolan Smith and Jaylen Phillips. But I thought this was an encouraging game from Tyler Guy. A couple other just random notes. Brevin Span Ford continues to be a monster as a run blocker. I mean, he's a real weapon. I, I don't know why Luke Skoodmaker continues to out snap him. I would love to see Dallas just lean into Brev and span Ford more. It Seems like we're getting it in spurts. I wish it was a, a more long term thing.
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Marcus Mosher
Yeah, I don't really know what the holdup is with, with kind of unleashing him a little bit more, but they really need to, I mean, obviously as a run blocker, he's been absolutely dominant. Just, you know, just really just highlights every week of just him punishing linebackers and safeties specifically. So yeah, definitely. It's just a guy who just needs to play more snaps. And I, I think, you know, they like Scoon Maker. They're trying to make it work with Schoon Maker. I just, you know, I think it's, I, I, it's, it's tough when the only, it's tough when the only time I'm noticing is him is because you're asking him to make a backside cut off on, you know, the second best, third best defensive end in the NFL. You know, it's like.
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Landon McCool
Well, it's just, I just rather have Span Ford trying to make that block. If we're going to do that, just put Span Ford in there. I mean, neither of those guys are real receiving threats. Just give me the guy that's the better blocker. Another quick takeaway. We're going to be on the negative side. It's kind of done with Kavante Turpin as a receiver. Not that they shouldn't ever throw to him, but it just feels like he hasn't developed the way that we were hoping that he would as a receiver. You, you don't really need him that much anymore with because of Pickens and you've got these tight ends that you can use. I think I'd rather just give all those snaps like the true receiving snaps to Flournoy, keep Turpin in his role as a jet sweep guy and just move on.
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Marcus Mosher
Yeah, I think they mostly are doing it too, right. Like the noise. Basically become wide receiver three and taking the job from anybody else. So yeah, I think he's Serpent's only getting a couple of these snaps now, but he's not taking advantage of those either. So yeah, it needs to do a better job. Can I talk about a couple things that are annoying me, honestly? Because.
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Landon McCool
Go ahead.
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Marcus Mosher
We're talking about if we're going to be negative. Not, this is not so much a negative, but I just see it week to week and I saw it with the Cowboys when I was watching tape today. I hate it when offensive linemen don't punish jumpers like when, when a defensive lineman jumps up in the air and tried to knock down the ball. You should be knocking the defensive lineman down onto the ground like every single time. And the only way you're gonna ever prevent people from doing it is to punish them for doing it. And I think it's legal way of really, really hitting one of those guys really, really hard when they're in a, in, in a compromised position. So you should do it. And then the other thing I want to throw out this, this isn't necessarily a negative so much, but I think the Cowboys have done a really good job with the way they've used Tyler Smith this season. I don't not necessarily think that this has been his best season, but the way that they've used him specifically and as a puller and as a kick out blocker on the edge in protection, they continue to do it and it continues to work right and they it really, really worked well. A couple different cases with Crosby. I love that they're able to take advantage of the fact that that Smith's a good tackle and let him play on the edge a little bit every once in a while. What a great key advantage for the Cowboys.
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Landon McCool
All right, that is it for today's show. We'd like to thank you for making Lockdown Cowboys your first listen every single day. Download the podcast wherever you get your podcast. We are free and available on all platforms. Follow Landon on Twitter @mccoolbcb I'm @marcus Moser and we will see you right back here tomorrow. Introducing Fidelity Trader plus, the next generation of advanced trading from Fidelity. Customize your tools and charts and access them seamlessly across desktop, web and mobile for faster trades anywhere you go. Try the all new Fidelity Trader Plus. Learn more about our most powerful trading platform yet@fidelity.com trader + investing involves risk, including risk of loss Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC member NYSE SIPC streaming is changing.
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Gifting and holes to deck and the who's in whoville were in love with new tech. Where can we find Sonos and Samsung and Nintendo? They shouted. Would they find it in one place. This they questioned and doubted when suddenly a who yelled who? Walmart's the place to start. And D2 added headphones, TVs and games to their carts. With Walmart, their shopping was done in a flurry. They cried out who knew? And ordered their gifts in a hurry. Shop the latest tech gifts in the Walmart app.