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MIDSEASON REVIEW: Did The Dallas Cowboys Nail The 2025 Offseason Outside Of The Micah Parsons Trade?
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The Dallas Cowboys changed how they operated this offseason —and after 10 weeks, did they get it right? Javonte Williams emerges as the new lead back, while Dante Fowler quietly delivers on defense after a high-profile return. George Pickens outperforms expectations, but the questionable timing of offseason moves casts a shadow over early-season setbacks.
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Yeah, and and you know, we can debate whether it's the further infusing of the analytics department into decision making process or just kind of a change in in overall philosophy or maybe you know, in their minds they're just doing what's smart for this year and it's Not a change of philosophy or anything. Who knows? But. But the truth of the matter is that they made a lot of moves that we kind of felt like at the time were kind of regular Cowboys business that ended up being much better than we expected. Some, obviously, are terrible and they have been very publicized, but I think, you know, looking back retroactively, some of the smaller moves that they made in the off season ended up being, you know, really good, really good moves. And, and I think the. The things that they've done differently this off season, could they be a template for, for how they operate moving forward? That's. That's going to be the kind of key question.
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All right, so let's go through some of the moves. I want to start in free agency, their biggest free agent signing, and honestly the biggest one they've made in the last 10 years, like in terms of money per year, was actually signing Dante Fowler, who. And I, again, I know Dante Fowler is not Micah Parsons, but he's having a really good year by any metric. It's just. It's not like a 10 sack season or anything like that, so it's kind of going a little bit unnoticed. But bringing back Fowler was a great move for Dallas.
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Yeah, I mean, again, like, I think you have to understand, like, what his role was, and his role was to kind of come in and be a second or third pass rusher that, you know, is basically exclusively act. Acting like that. And then suddenly the Micah Parsons situation happened and it changed all the angles for him. Right. And now suddenly he's being relied upon to kind of do a little bit more, to play a little bit more, to serve a little bit more of a kind of balanced defensive end role. And, and to his credit, I think he did a pretty decent job at that, you know, role while having it kind of unexpectedly thrust upon him. So, yeah, I agree. Like, you get him back, he added something to your pass rush, and at times he was one of the only things that was positive about your pass rush. So it was. It ended up being a very positive move. And considering what they paid for him, it honestly wasn't that much money.
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And I, I know everybody's gonna look at his stats, two sacks, and be like, okay, hey, Marcus, it's not that big of a deal. Every other advanced number, whether it's ESPN's win rate, pro football focuses grades, or their past rush win rate, all of the metrics are really good. It's kind of not his fault he's not getting sacks. It's because the corners have been Awful. But another move that I want to talk about is the Enrique o' Dowdle, Javante Williams. Now, could the Cowboys have brought back Rico Dowdle at about the same price and maybe been slightly better? It's possible. Rico's having an outstanding year in Carolina, but Javante Williams is as good as you could have ever hoped for with the Cowboys. He's been a great pass blocker. He's been one of the league's most efficient running backs. And I think this idea that you have to spend big money at the running back position to get elite production, it feels like the Cowboys are finally going away from that a little bit.
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Yeah. I mean, again, we talked about this. Could this be the, the influence of the analytics department kind of weaving its way in? Yeah, I, I don't think it's. It's. I understand how good a season it seems like Rico Dowdle is having right now. And, and, and it's, you know, writ large. I think you. You could say that he's been very successful. Free agent signing for. For the. The Panthers. Panthers.
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But, but I, but I think that I, I still think that you look at what the Cowboys have done and how their running game has been and how efficient they've been with, with. With Williams. I think it was a positive. A positive overall trade. I think you ended up, you know, getting a guy who maybe is a little bit more balanced of a game, I think, in Williams. But I, I think it's.
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For sure.
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Yeah, for sure. I think. I think it is one of those things where you, you look at it and you say, well, it could have been this, it could have been that, and, and maybe either way would have worked. But I think when you consider the money that you're getting, you know, I think Williams is still a little bit younger than, Than Dowdle is. I think you look at the situation and go, man, if you can get Williams to come back maybe on a cheap deal because he likes the situation, then you. I think you could look at this as an overall positive situation for the Cowboys, even if Dowdle continues to have the success that he does.
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Yeah. So those are two big moves. I also want to mention, just briefly, Solomon Thomas. No, he's not a starter, but he's been. I mean, you. The Cowboys have been searching for, like, this. This third defensive tackle forever, and he's been really good, so I at least wanted to mention him. The George Pickens trade, I want to see, because we're going to get to the picking stuff in a little bit, and that's A more nuanced conversation. I wanted to go to the draft, Landon, because generally with draft picks and we don't talk about this enough, you kind of know right away whether you have something or whether you don't. I mean, think about the Mozzie Smith pick like we were talking ourselves into it in year two and year three, whereas like Tyler Booker and Donovan as Raku May. We could debate positional value, but those guys have both been outstanding whenever they've been on the field.
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Yeah, I mean, I think, I think that there's definitely times when you're not sure if a guy could develop, but I think if you. You usually know right away if you've got a good player. Right.
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Yeah, we don't know necessarily they're ceiling. But you.
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I don't think you know the negative.
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They're not a bust, right?
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Yeah, I think you don't know if they're a bust right away, but I think you can know. Right. Obviously right away when they're really good. And I think the Cowboys. Yeah. Seemingly have hit on their first two. First two picks this year. And, and I think, you know, maybe part of that is just a, a change in how they're targeting these players or maybe it was that they just got into a bad situation in, in, you know, the Mozzie Smith shoot schoon maker draft where they were reaching for positions of need like. And like you. Everyone knows you shouldn't necessarily. And, and I think that. That they paid the price for it. And so hopefully they've learned a lesson there a little bit. And you know, look, they didn't necessarily trade for positional value in the first round, but they, they went and got the guy that they felt like was going to be a solid pick and he's been that. Exactly. Yeah.
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And my biggest gripe with the draft is, and we're going to talk about this next with Micah Parsons. If you knew you were trading Micah Parsons, do you draft differently? Do you draft an edge rusher in round one like someone like Jaylen Walker, who you know, I was a big fan of. He was available at pick 12. I think that's a little bit. Some of that is mitigated when you draft Donovan as a raku in round two because, yeah, I, I think Walker's been a little bit better this year, but not enough to be like, upset that they. Because the Cowboys got as a rocku. So I feel really good about their draft, even if the positional value isn't necessarily there in round one.
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Yeah, I mean, I think I think we can argue certainly positional value if those players are bust. Right. But if since they both hit, I think you feel like, man, it worked out whether it was the right way to go it or not. It ultimately it's what what they were.
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Looking for and we're obviously hoping Savon Ravel, who is expected to start.
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Oh, that's. Sorry. Expected to play. That'd be awesome. If you start excited to play against the Raiders on Monday Night Football. If he can give you anything, you know, in the second half of the year, I think you're going to be feeling awesome about the Cowboys draft class. So overall free agency in the draft, I mean like if I was giving them a grade, like B plus at the very least, I mean I really think this is the best combination of free agency and draft they've had in a long time.
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I, I think, you know, we, we didn't really talk about this aspect of it. But, but the Javante Williams surprise, just how surprising it was for him to kind of take the brass ring and become the, the lead back and the soul back basically of this team. That's, that's what was the most surpr. And it really kind of took what was a good, good, you know, off season into a, a very, very good. As far as acquisition goes now, what's going out the door, that, that's a whole different story.
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Yeah. Because you never felt once like Javante Williams isn't good enough at the running back position. In fact, you felt like he's actually adding value to the offense and he's giving you a sense of physicality that we've been begging for for years. So overall, well done by the Cowboys in free agency in the draft. But let's talk about where maybe they messed up this offseason. We'll get to that next. This episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. You and I make decisions every day, but on prize picks being right can get you paid. Don't miss any of the excitement of this sports season. Whether you're following the NFL, the NBA or both the there has never been a better time to jump in on the action. If you haven't tried prize picks yet, it's the simplest way to play. You just pick more or less on at least two player stats and if you get them right, you win. It takes less than 60 seconds to make your lineup and you can play anywhere that Prizepix operates, including California, Texas and Georgia. I love that on Sundays I can use prize picks for the NFL and then during the middle of the week. We we've got basketball action all week long. Plus, if one of your players leaves early with an injury, the injury reboot saves your lineup from a loss. Nobody else is doing that right now. So download the prize fix app today. Use promo code Lot NFL to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup. That's code lot NFL for $50 in lineups after you Play your first $5 lineup. Price picks it's good to be right.
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Welcome back to the Loton Cowboys podcast. We'd like to thank you for making us your first listen of the day. We also like to thank you for making lock on the number one sports podcast network. Lena let's talk about where the Cowboys got this offseason wrong. And then again, we thought for the most part they've had a good offseason. Where do they get it wrong now that we're 10 games through the season?
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I mean, I don't know if anyone's heard about this, but right before the season started, the Cowboys traded Micah Parsons. They had Micah Parsons on their football team and they traded him to another football team.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, I mean, that's, that's, that's it. And I think, you know, look, I think one way that we can kind of approach this or at least talk about this a little bit differently than we have previously. Right. Is, you know, maybe the idea of if Micah Parsons a trade was inevitable, right. Then maybe we should discuss the sin specifically of how it all went down. Right. And the lack of just overall value that the Cowboys got for this obviously extremely valuable commodity. And it's, it wasn't even. I mean, look, they got a lot for him. I mean, you know, he got two first round picks and, but I think in a player, right. And I think that's, that's a lot. But I think when you're talking about what you're talking about with Micah Parsons, a kind of supremely unique player that's, you know, changing. Change the shape of their defense. I think if you had done this in a more timely fashion and let it be known a little bit more, given more teams the opportunity to prepare packages, to kind of put together a trade package, because that's the thing too, is that, you know, when you do a sudden trade, you're not giving the teams that may be interested in getting Parsons the opportunity to, you know, gather the resources to make a pitch. Right. They have much more opportunity earlier in the season, like maybe before the draft.
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Or if you're doing it in March. Right. If you're doing this trade in March, not only do they have the resources, but they also have the cap space. And I think that's one of the things that a lot of these teams got to once we got to September is they just didn't have the ability to fit him into their cat because they spent all that money during the off season on free agents, trades and current extensions.
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Yeah. And look, we, we could talk about. We still haven't gotten all the results of this trade yet. All the players that have been acquired with the resources that were gotten from, from his trade. Right. So I still kind of want to hold out like ultimate, you know, 2020 vision, looking back until this whole thing is done. But I think what we can still debate currently right now is the idea that because they executed it in such a haphazard manner and because it was done seemingly out of kind of anger that the, the contract situation wasn't really going anywhere, it. It feels like the Cowboys really sold themselves short, you know, more opportunity to get more, you know, like, you know, Jerry talked about getting five players out of this whole situation. If you had gotten more out of this trade, that could have been six or seven. You know, and I, I think that's the part that's really kind of hard to look past. And even if you're the most die hard Jerry believer, it's hard to look past that.
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You.
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You. They picked the absolute worst opportunity timing wise to do this, because not only what you missed out in trade value, but, but kind of going back to what we talked about the last segment, the way that they sideswiped the defensive coordinator and completely changed the, the tenor and the, the approach of the defense because you've lost the player that you're building this defense around. It affected not only the play caller, but all the players in the defense that had to kind of adjust their rules, including Fowler. Like we, like we talked about some Players didn't take to it as well, like Sam Williams and some of the younger guys. So it, it, it had a major effect in all aspects of the defense, and none of it was positive really.
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And it wasn't fair to, like, Kenny Clark, who the Cowboys acquired again, four days, was it, five days before they kicked off against Philadelphia. He just didn't have any time to get used to the scheme, the coaching staff, the players next to him. Even if you do this day one of training camp, at least Kenny Clark has a little bit more time and maybe you get better results and you're not giving up 40 points to the Giants in week two. Right. There's also. There was the distraction of all this. This was one of our biggest problems at the time, is you don't need this distraction. I don't know why Jerry Jones feels the need to constantly have a distraction. People are going to talk about the Cowboys regardless. Instead, you had a preseason game where the number one story was Michael Parsons laying on the training camp, training camp table. And every day after practice, you had players being asked about Micah Parsons. And it's just, it was unnecessary. And I think the biggest thing is just a lack of planning. Like, if you knew back in March when Jerry Jones and Micah sat down that when that deal didn't go through and that Jerry was never going to get to the number that, you know, Michael wanted, trade in, then at least give yourself more options rather than having to pull the trigger that fast.
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Well, and, and you said it the. Look, I mean, the cow. Everyone's going to talk about the Cowboys anyways, but they're not going to necessarily talk about Jerry Jones unless Jer Jones causes a stink in the every single off season. So it's ironic that, that the final straw was Micah laying down on the table in the preseason game and causing a, a ruckus there, because Jerry's creating a ruckus at all times. Jerry's doing the equivalent of. Of an owner lying down on a training table on a sideline of a preseason game by, you know, constantly making public these. These contentious contract situations. So, yeah, the Cowboys have got to figure out a way to, to get Jerry to stop doing this. And I, and I know it's tough to get Jerry to do anything, but they've got to come to reason here.
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One more thing, and this is kind of, you know, directed or tied to the Micah Parsons thing, is they should have had a better plan at cornerback. And we're going to talk about Kyra Elam in a second. You knew Trayvon Diggs was going to be iffy for the start of the season. Now he played in week one, but I mean Jerry Jones has basically said like he wasn't ready, Trayvon wasn't ready. You had Duron Bland and then not a lot outside of that. If you traded Micah back in March, maybe before camp started, maybe you free up some money to keep Jordan Lewis or to go out and sign, you know, a defensive back. They just had way too much change in the secondary for one off season on top of losing your all pro pass rusher.
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Well, and if anything's a proof in the pudding situation that this was an improv situation and not planned very well is that the Cowboys didn't fortify the cornerback position before trading away their best pass rusher. Right. Like they, the cornerback room was basically built with the idea that you have Micah Parsons in on your defensive line and that's why you have two guys that are interception kings but not necessarily, you know, great man to man coverage guys. So yeah, again this, this is not very well, kind of holistically planned and feels pretty haphazard.
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Well, and that's why for as great as off season we think they had like in, you know, with free agency in the draft, one bad move or one ill time move like this can kind of torpedo everything else. And I think as the season goes on, I think the hope is maybe things start to stabilize a little bit. But nobody should be surprised at the way the first half of the season went after you traded away Micah.
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Yeah, I mean if you're trading away Micah for an equivalent amount of talent spread out over, over several players and you haven't even gotten those returns yet, obviously you're going to be a less talented team. Right? Like, I mean that's just kind of physics, you know, like the energy is going this different way. So I, I just think that the Cowboys clearly did this and they had to have known that they were punting the ball for another season, whether they're telling their fans that or not, just based on the tenor of way, the way everything was done. And honestly it just feels like when the trade got made, it was Jerry kind of throw throwing his hands up for the season. I mean I, I really, it's hard not to feel that way.
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Let's talk about the trades. Calorie's made several trades in the off season, including the Micah Parsons one. They've already made two trades during the season. What should we take away from those trades? What have we learned? We'll get to that next. This episode is brought to you by Game Time. The NFL season is back and honestly, there's nothing better than being in a stadium that surrounded by fans cheering on your team. But let's be honest, getting tickets can be a hassle. Between cubes, login screens and prices jumping at checkout, it's all incredibly frustrating. But that's why I use Game Time, the app that gives the advantage back to the fans. Game Time is fast, easy, and backed by the Game Time guarantee. You'll always get 100% authentic tickets delivered on time and at the best price. Plus all fees are included. So the price that you see is the price that you pay. Game Time is the only app that I use when I buy tickets. My favorite feature in the app is that you can see your exact view from the seats before you buy. And honestly, it's faster, cheaper and less stressful than any other way that you can buy tickets. So download the GameTime app today. Create an account and use promo code locked on NFL for $20 off your first purchase terms apply. That is promo code lot NFL for $20 off swipe tap ticket. Go download Game Time today.
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Learn more@chase.com Sapphire Reserve cards issued by JP Morgan Chase bank and a member FDIC subject to credit approval. Welcome back to the Lock on Cowboys podcast. We'd like to thank you for making us your first listen of the day. For your second listen, check out the Locked on NFL podcast. Two shows every single day. One in the morning with Tyler Rowland, one in the afternoon with Tony Wiggins. Available wherever you get your podcast. All right, let's talk about trades. The Cowboys are making more trades than in my lifetime. At least probably back to what, the early Jimmy Johnson days. What have we learned from these trades?
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Yeah, it feels like one of the things we've learned is that the Cowboys need to trade for kind of. They need to not be afraid to pay a premium to trade for sure things. Right. Because I feel like where they've struggled at times is, you know, one of the strategies they have for free agency. And Will McClay's favorite famous for this is going after like former first round picks and, and, and seeing if you can get something out of them that other teams.
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Solomon Thomas, perfect example.
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Exactly. And there's tons of those examples and tons of them that work for the Cowboys as well. Like the Cowboys are actually good at this, but they aren't necessarily good at trading for these players. And, and it feels like the prop. The problem is that you're increasing the risk here. What's one of the best things about that is that it's a low risk, you know, high reward situation. By tying draft picks, even, you know, kind of day two or day three draft picks, you're still, you know, adding too much to it, to, to the risk side of it. And it's. The reward is not, you know, the hit rate isn't that great, you know, and I think with someone like Kyler Murray specifically, it's like Kenneth Murray, I'm never gonna do it. I forgot, with Kenneth Murray specifically, when they traded for him, we all knew who Kenneth Murray was. He'd already been with two other teams. It's been very clear that like how he had been playing in his style of play and he hadn't really, you know, improved, improved on it. And lo and behold, he comes to the Cowboys and guess what? He does the exact same thing. I just don't think the Cowboys are as good with these more advanced veterans trying to get extra juice out of them. And I think it's because they're playing a very simplistic defense. You know, it's not like, you know, there's, you're playing some kind of specialty defense that's going to be able to highlight these guys differently. We're looking for pure talent, guys that will be able to get up field and chase the quarterback. And if this guy has been in like three of those defenses already and hasn't, you know, learned how to not chase play action at this point. I mean, we're using Murray as an example, but there's a lot of these. But I think it's not gonna happen now.
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Yeah, go through it from the start of the trade deadline last year they traded a fourth round pick for Jonathan Mingo. I mean, he's been nothing for you, right? That's. Carolina gave up on him after a year and a half because he was, he wasn't what they were hoped, right? They traded for Kenneth Murray. Shout out to Kyler Murray. Call of Duty released today. I know, I know. They traded for Kyre Elam, who was a first round pick that was benched in Buffalo in 2024. Elam has been, well, I mean a rotational corner at this point.
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I mean you've needed him, that's why he's been thrown out there. But at the same time in a desperate cornerback situation, it's not like he's out there all the time.
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So all of those guys were essentially busts from the teams that previously drafted them. But go the other way. George Pickens. George Pickens was a Pro bowl receiver for the Steelers. He got traded because of off field stuff, not performance. Right. That one has worked out incredibly well for Dallas. Go back even a couple more years. Braden Cooks. I mean, the Cowboys traded a late round pick for Brandon Cooks. Maybe he wasn't the number two receiver that you'd hoped, but nobody's going to say that was a bad trade for Dallas. The Cowboys absolutely won that trade. Same with Stefan Gilmore. He gave you pro, Pro bowl caliber cornerback play. Go all the way back to Amari Cooper. Amari Cooper saved your season and became an all pro caliber receiver. All of those guys were established as good and sometimes great NFL players and that translated to Dallas.
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Yeah. And obviously you're hoping for that same sort of success with Quinn and as he comes in here and he gets his first opportunity. So, yeah, I think that the Cowboys need to be careful mixing their strat, their free agent and draft strategies and maybe just kind of kept them, keep them separate as far as how they're selecting their targets.
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If you're going to trade for somebody, trade for somebody who is already good. I mean, because it's just you're giving.
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Pay the premium.
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Yeah, yeah. Pay the premium for a young player for day three capital, which is what they've traded away for. Milton, Murray, Elam. Don't do that. Don't trade for guys that are still on a rookie contract because more often than not those guys are available for a reason. You're better off buying a veteran on a one year deal like the Cowboys did with Michael Bennett or Stefan Gilmore. They've had so much more success doing that. The Pickens one is fascinating because the Pickens one, I really feel like that was a move that was aggressive at the time, but it's worked out.
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Yeah, I mean, I, it feels like the aggressiveness there was pushed by their need. And so I, I feels like it's hard to know if the Cowboys actually learned a lesson there or if they're just looking at, oh man, we struck gold. We're just, we just lucked out. But yeah, I mean, it's, I'm hoping that they look at that situation and go, man, our aggressiveness, you know, it paid off. It's, it's, it's, we're being rewarded for it and they feel positively about it. So we'll see how the whole thing plays out. But I'm hoping that you see more of this kind of thing because it's been one of the most more successful ways that the Cowboys improved their roster so far.
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Yeah, and one other thing from the offseason that we didn't get to have time to talk about is the extensions to Osa de Gizua, Duron Bland, Jake Ferguson. Again, we're only 10 weeks to the season. I want to let those play out a little bit, but maybe that's a sign that you should maybe not so much invest in the middle part of your roster. But again, we can say that for another day.
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Yeah, it's pretty early, but yeah, the returns so far have not necessarily been great. On all three of those, I I still have confidence in at least two of those three working out, hopefully.
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Honestly, I have confidence that all three are going to be good players and I think that's maybe they don't get back to the highs that they were when they got signed, but I think all those guys are going to be just fine. All right, that is it for today's show. We want to thank you for making Lockdown Cowboys your first listen every single day. Check out the channel on YouTube, download the podcast wherever you get your podcast. We are free and available on all platforms. Follow Laynan on Twitter @McCool BCB. I'm @Marcus Underscore Moser and we'll see you right back here on Monday to get you ready for Cowboys Raiders Monday Night Football. Thank you for making Locked on your first listen every day. The NFL season is finally here and for your second listen, get a double dose of the Locked On NFL podcast. Tyler the Madman Roland gives you a shot of his espresso to start your football day while Tony Wiggins takes you into the barber shop for the smoothest breakdowns to end the day. Locked on NFL brings you non stop league wide coverage daily. Find Locked on NFL on YouTube or wherever you listen to podcasts. Part of the Locked On Podcast network your team every day.
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