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Podcast: London Real
Host: Brian Rose
Episode: Alan Dershowitz - How Trump Can Legally Be President in 2029 - And Exactly How He Does It
Date: February 18, 2026

Main Theme / Purpose

In this incisive and wide-ranging conversation, host Brian Rose welcomes esteemed legal scholar Alan Dershowitz to explore the provocative constitutional question: Is it possible for Donald Trump to legally become President again in 2029? The discussion unpacks creative and sometimes controversial scenarios within the US legal and political system, the cultural climate at Harvard post-Trump defense, reflections on cancel culture, and Dershowitz’s personal involvement in the Jeffrey Epstein case.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Constitutional Pathways for Trump’s Possible Return

Discussion of the 22nd Amendment’s Restrictions:
- Dershowitz clearly states Trump’s ambitions:
  - "[Trump] would like to run for a third term. If the 22nd Amendment didn't exist, he'd be starting his campaign now." (00:01, Dershowitz)
Creative Loopholes & Legal Hypotheticals:
- Various constitutional mechanisms are explored for a Trump return without a direct election:
  - "Next president and VP killed or resign: House (potentially Republican controlled) elects Trump as Speaker, who then ascends to the presidency."
  - "Electoral College deadlock: If no candidate secures a majority, it’s thrown to the House, which might stall or create an opening for alternative outcomes."
- Dershowitz weighs the legal plausibility:
  - "I don't think the Supreme Court would sustain this one, but I do think [it] would sustain the other scenario of an unplanned ascension to the presidency through assassinations or through a deadlock in the Electoral College." (00:48, Dershowitz)

2. Dershowitz on Epstein and Media Reputation

Public Perception & Legal Fallout:
- Dershowitz addresses ongoing media speculation regarding Jeffrey Epstein's associates:
  - "It's true. I know the names of the people. I was his lawyer, and then I was falsely accused by some woman who then retracted her accusation. I didn't do anything wrong." (01:10, Dershowitz)
- He criticizes Netflix's handling of his own allegations:
  - "To show you how bad Netflix is...they still have the interview with the woman who claims she had sex with me without indicating even in the bottom of it. She's now withdrawn that claim. So if it's on Netflix, don't believe it." (01:23, Dershowitz)

3. The Harvard Backlash: Cancel Culture and Zionism

Alienation Following Trump’s Defense:
- Dershowitz discusses how defending Trump impacted his legacy at Harvard:
  - "I was one of the most popular professors in modern Harvard history. But the minute I defended Donald Trump on his first impeachment, I was Persona non grata at Harvard." (01:41, Dershowitz)
- He laments being ostracized socially and professionally, even in everyday situations:
  - "In Martha's Vineyard, people won't talk to me. I can't get pierogi at the farmer's market, where everybody should be able to buy and sell everything because I was wearing a shirt that said Proud Zionist. This is the kind of McCarthyism that we're seeing from the left these days, and I'm gonna continue to fight." (01:48, Dershowitz)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the 22nd Amendment:
- "If the 22nd Amendment didn't exist, he'd be starting his campaign now." (00:01, Dershowitz)
On possible legal loopholes:
- "According to the statutes, that person ascends to the presidency without being elected." (00:29, Dershowitz)
On reputation and media narratives:
- "If it's on Netflix, don't believe it." (01:26, Dershowitz)
On public ostracization:
- "I can't get pierogi at the farmer's market, where everybody should be able to buy and sell everything because I was wearing a shirt that said Proud Zionist." (01:50, Dershowitz)

Segment Timestamps

[00:01] — Dershowitz posits Trump’s intentions and hypothetical legal avenues to return to office
[00:12 - 01:02] — Detailed breakdown of possible constitutional scenarios (lines of succession, Electoral College gridlock, Speaker of the House ascension)
[01:02 - 01:39] — Epstein files, Dershowitz’s direct experience and Netflix’s portrayal
[01:39 - 02:00] — Response to Harvard’s distancing and discussions of social backlash and political identity

Tone & Language

The episode is candid, direct, and intellectual, driven by Dershowitz's precise legal explanations and personal anecdotes, as well as Brian Rose's probing, open-ended questions. The conversation is combative regarding cancel culture and mainstream media, while remaining analytical on constitutional law.

Summary

This London Real episode is a fast-paced, thought-provoking deep dive into US constitutional quirks, the social costs of high-profile legal work, and the enduring battles over free speech and public reputation. It will particularly resonate with listeners keen on law, politics, and the personal price of public controversy.

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[00:01]
A
Trump would like to run for a third term. If the 22nd Amendment didn't exist, he'd be starting his campaign now.
[00:07]
B
Let's talk about what the 22nd Amendment says and what are the ways around it, because you can get pretty creative.
[00:12]
A
So let's assume the next president and vice president are killed. The House of Representatives elects Trump to be speaker of the House and then ascends to the presidency without being elected. Another one, which is the Electoral College, fails to have a majority for any one candidate. Then it gets thrown to the House of Representatives, which chooses not elect a president or the last one. The next president and vice president resigns and the Republican controlled House could name Trump as Speaker. And then according to the statutes, that person ascends to the presidency without being elected. I don't think the Supreme Court would sustain this one, but I do think would sustain the other scenario of an unplanned ascension to the presidency through assassinations or through a deadlock in the Electoral College.
[01:02]
B
The Epstein file, where a lot of people are talking about the last few months. He once said, I know the names of the individuals. I know why they're being suppressed. I know who's suppressing them.
[01:11]
A
It's true. I know the names of the people. I was his lawyer, and then I was falsely accused by some woman who then retracted her accusation. I didn't do anything wrong. I've never had sex with anybody but my wife since the day I met Jeffrey Epstein. And to show you how bad Netflix is, they still have the interview with the woman who claims she had sex with me without indicating even in the bottom of it. She's now withdrawn that claim. So if it's. It's on Netflix, don't believe it. Alan, when you look at your alma.
[01:39]
B
Mater of Harvard, do you wash your hands of the place?
[01:42]
A
They've washed their hands with me. I was one of the most popular professors in modern Harvard history. But the minute I defended Donald Trump on his first impeachment, I was Persona non grata at Harvard in Martha's Vineyard. People won't talk to me. I can't get pierogi at the farmer's market, where everybody should be able to buy and sell everything because I was wearing a shirt that said Proud Zionist. This is the kind of McCarthyism that we're seeing from the left these days, and I'm gonna continue to fight.