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Donald Trump is not what he claims to be. He's a puppet. He's just being manipulated by people around him. Basically, the billionaire tech networks are running the show.
B
One thing they're focusing on lately are these Epstein files. What is, in your opinion, that bigger picture?
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The Epstein network was the biggest pedophile ring in history. Nonsense. It was a blackmail operation on behalf of Israel and the CIA. Epstein is gateway to the cesspit. The scale of global. Global pedophilia is absolutely massive.
B
You mentioned AI a lot in the last few years, and it's a part of the roadmap as well. What do we need to keep our eye on? Or is it too late?
A
If you want to see what's planned for the west tomorrow, look at China today. The digital id, the digital currency, the AI dystopia agenda. The idea is that you become docile, you simply obey. You become an automaton. That's the idea.
B
Were you and I replatformed on YouTube?
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They have to go from being the blatant villain, which is what we saw during COVID but now they're in a phase of we're the good guys now we're on your side because they're trying to pull everyone in to this AI dystopia.
B
David, you seem more focused than ever and for. Somehow I feel like the world needs your message more than ever.
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Where we need to go is beyond the limits of your belief system. You are an infinite state of consciousness that had its perception entrapped in the belief that your experience, called human, is you. And awakening is when you go, that's not me. When you do that, the world changes. Give it a try, because the world won't look the same.
Podcast: London Real
Host: Brian Rose
Guest: David Icke
Date: December 15, 2025
In this charged episode, Brian Rose welcomes controversial author and speaker David Icke back to London Real for their eleventh deep conversation. The discussion centers on themes of censorship, global control networks, technological dystopia, and what it means to awaken beyond societal belief systems. David Icke shares his thoughts on deplatforming, the perceived manipulation by global elites, and the urgent importance of personal awakening.
"Donald Trump is not what he claims to be. He's a puppet. He's just being manipulated by people around him. Basically, the billionaire tech networks are running the show."
— David Icke
"The Epstein network was the biggest pedophile ring in history. Nonsense. It was a blackmail operation on behalf of Israel and the CIA. Epstein is gateway to the cesspit. The scale of global. Global pedophilia is absolutely massive."
— David Icke
"If you want to see what's planned for the west tomorrow, look at China today. The digital id, the digital currency, the AI dystopia agenda. The idea is that you become docile, you simply obey. You become an automaton. That's the idea."
— David Icke
"They have to go from being the blatant villain, which is what we saw during COVID but now they're in a phase of we're the good guys now we're on your side because they're trying to pull everyone in to this AI dystopia."
— David Icke
"Where we need to go is beyond the limits of your belief system. You are an infinite state of consciousness that had its perception entrapped in the belief that your experience, called human, is you. And awakening is when you go, that's not me. When you do that, the world changes. Give it a try, because the world won't look the same."
— David Icke
This episode is simultaneously provocative and fiercely independent, echoing both Brian Rose’s commitment to unfiltered dialogue and David Icke’s signature blend of global conspiracy theory and spiritual urgency. Whether listeners agree or disagree, they’re challenged to look beyond mainstream narratives and explore the mechanics of control, technology, and inner freedom.