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Long Winded with Gabby Windey
American SHE-roes: Virginia Giuffre and Aileen Wuornos
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This week we are discussing American Sheroes - Virginia Giuffre, a well known Epstein victim who has recently died and Aileen Wuornos, a famous serial killer of men.
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So we're going to be talking about Virginia Giuffre and Eileen Warnos. I. I read. I'm almost done with Virginia Giuffre's memoir. It's been out for a couple weeks. I, like, devoured the first part of it, but then I've just. I've been sleepy and busy. I only have, like, I don't know, I'm on the Kindle, so I have, like, 15% left. But she is number one on the Amazon, like, book list, number one bestseller right now, and kicked out. Mel Robbins. Thank you. And all of her. Her fake. That all stemmed from Eastern religion. Anyway. Quack, quack. She's a quack. Quack, quack, quack. Okay, but enough about her. I'm gonna start with Virginia Giuffre. I read her posthumous memoir. If you don't know what that means, it means after you're dead. Virginia Giuffre is one of Epstein's victims. She's probably the most prominent. Um, I would say she's been out in the media a bunch, like, talking about one of being, you know, a victim. She's. She can't continue her advocacy now for sex trafficking laws and keeping young girls and women safe because she's posthumous. But at least we have her book. And that really, why, is why she started to kind of become such a public figure in the media and do everything she can with trial after trial after trial and working with all these lawyers. Because she wanted to make change. She had a daughter, and she was like, I don't want this to happen to, like, young girls. The title is called Nobody's Girl, and it is. It's kind of sad. I don't, like, every time I see it kind of on my Kindle. I read on a Kindle. Okay. I, like, take a little longer. I'm like, nobody's girl. Is that, like, sweet, like, empowered? Has she overcome all kinds of control and ownership and now she's nobody's girl? Or is it like, she's nobody's girl? Like, nobody has protected her. Nobody, you know, had wanted her. Nobody had kept her safe. So kind of a double entendre, if you will. But it is. It's. It's harrowing at times, literally nauseating, the kind of sadistic pain that was inflicted on her. But she does. She's like, it's a balanced book. It talks about her as a whole person, which I like. She, you know, it's really hard to read, but she goes back and forth between her current life and then all of the sexual abuse in her absolutely terrible life before. But of course, now allegations are coming out about her husband that he domestically abused her to the point where at some point he broke her sternum and left her with such black eyes that the police was like, I'm surprised her orbital bone wasn't broken. And then, you know, she died by suicide in April. They say there's conspiracies out there that are like, I don't, did she die or did she die? Like, obviously she was trying to be hushed the whole time since she became public, but her brother did an interview. First of all, 60 Minutes Australia is like killing it. They do so many good interviews. I don't know why, where they came from or why over there in Australia. I don't know what else they're known for besides, I guess, kangaroos, koalas in the 60 minutes. But her brother did an interview and he had found her, he had ran an errand, he was, he was staying with her and in Australia came back, the door was locked and he did CPR for 45 minutes. So I don't, I don't know if there's an autopsy or what, but I mean, I don't know who's to say? I know they're looking at me and they're censoring me and you can form your own opinion, but it is, it's like hard to talk about all at once. I highly, highly recommend you read it just because, like, obviously where a lot of us are women, it's about very tangible topics and it honors her. And just what I got out of it is just like the cycle of abuse and how it's so hard to stop. Like, she was, she had a terrible life right from the beginning. She was molested by her father, who's a depraved pedophile. Fuck. Starting at the age of six, Like, I don't actually know what has to be wrong with you or your mind that you would want to get intimate with a six year old. Like, it's literally nauseating. People are like, oh, it's a psychological thing. It's like, it's more than a sickness. It's more than a sickness. It's, it's literally, it's beyond depraved. It's sadistic. It feels like a weird power thing that you just want to get away and get off by doing the worst thing ever that can happen to a child and you get off by it. Like, I don't know but there is, like, obviously it's so complicated. I've never been, you know, I can't really speak to it. I've never been sexually abused. But just from what she was saying, it's like there's so much manipulation around it, obviously, because not only are you being, like, sexually abused by your father, but you still want to love him, and your instinct is to love him and get his approval. Like, you're too young to suss out your feelings. She said sometimes, like, she was mixed with pleasure and, and disgust because her body did get, like, turned on and it would, like, kind of feel good, but it, like, turned against her, obviously, like, you know, we understand how anatomy works. It's just such complicated feelings. But he would, like, sneak into her room at night, like, finger her. I'm so sorry for, like, the explicit details, honestly. The mom was obviously in denial and took it out on Virginia, even though Virginia remembers, like, the mom kind of being witnessed to one night where she saw the door cracked and like, the mom was listening, but obviously did absolutely nothing to protect her. She was abused so bad and so often that she had recurring utis at like 7 or 8. It's like, that's just not normal. So you take her to the doctor, and then the medical personnel seems to like, turn her head or said that she was riding horses. Like, I'm sorry, Sorry. But, like, get your head out of your ass and choose and, and like, choose to look the right way for once. It's not from horses at this young of an age, or else we'd see it prominently in horseback riders. Like, obviously it's something nefarious. Obviously there's something like, really bad and foreign and damaging that's happening to her vaginal area. Like, please like, help children. But I, I. And it kind of started, like, not started. I mean, it couldn't even even started. But her, her father, like, kind of trafficked her to his friend, and then his friend sexually abused her and took her virginity. I'm. I don't even know what age she. She doesn't say, but I'm like, maybe 10, 11, 12, it seems. But it's like, these men should be casterized with no sedation. They' disgusting. And she's been just running away from danger, like, her whole life. She was sent to one of those facilities where you, like, drop off your kids, so. Because they're bad, and then they like, treat them even worse under the guise of love and like, oh, we're gonna heal them, but really they're treating them like animals. Literally feeding them slop physically, again, abusing them. So she. She was put into a place like this. She ran away. When she ran away, she was raped multiple times. Like, literally just trying to eat and, like, find a meal. So she was picked up by an initial rapist who, like, put a gun in her mouth. This is at like 15. Then was stopped by a limo who again raped her. Like, I don't. I. I think this is one of the things too that like, I kind of took away is like, almost how do people get themselves in these positions and like, why can't they stop? Why can't you see sign? But she was just abused her whole life, like, with nobody protecting her. So you didn't know when to trust people, when not to trust people. Like, she literally needed to eat. And these men were like, basically, I'll feed you. And like, she needed a ride somewhere to go. So they're like, I'll drive you. And then raped her. It is like, it's so sad, but it's just kind of, you know, what happens when you're stuck in this cycle of abuse. So this was. This all happened even before she had met Ghislaine and Epstein. So it was almost like, you know, women who go through this are kind of like, primed for. For this sort of life. And it's absolutely devastating and it's so hard to break the cycle and. And. But it's like she's literally all alone, just trying to survive in her surv, like comes like it by being raped by men. It's kind of like the only thing she knows. But at 16, she started working at Mar a Lago because her dad worked there, so he'll kind of learn. Her dad and her relationship is still very on and off because again, she had nobody else and at least he was like, providing her with a job. But that's where gain first trafficked her. Like, she saw her outside, she was being driven, rolled down her window, I think was like, do you work here? Whatever? Then followed her to work the next day where she was working at the receptionist office. Normally she was like, in the back, but it was too hot. And Virginia was like studying an anatomy book or something. And Ghislaine was like, oh, do you know how to give massages? Are you in massage school? And Virginia was like, no, I just like to learn. And Ghislaine was like, oh, don't worry about it. I bet you're just really good at it. So, like, don't care what you have to say. Obviously, I'm A predator and a creep and using anything that you're reading against you. So why don't you come over tonight and give my friend Epstein a massage? And then kind of like the rest is history a little bit with, you know, we know a lot of the men who have trafficked her, and, like, we've known the story kind of, but it is. It's a hard read because of all the abuse and just the sadistic things that have happened to her. But, like, she knows it literally. Like, so that's why she breaks from the past and then her present kind of family life. Of course, this was before all the allegations of her husband, but she literally, right when things started to get too heavy for me, I read her words and it was like, please don't stop reading. Like, I will give you a break. So she. She knew it, obviously, but, yeah, so whatever. The first night at Epstein, she remembers the pink building. He was like, give me a massage. Ghislaine taught her how to. And then, like, during the massage, massage was kind of, like the word for, like, sex. And what she did, how to. When these men would traffic her, so he would tell her to do certain things, and then he would rape her or have, like, her do various different sexual acts to him. And then he would make her bathe him in the shower with a washcloth. Like, what are you. What are you, a baby or a molester of a baby? Which one is it? Like, who are you? You have to. You can't even wash your own asshole. So then when she was trafficked to all these other billionaires, incredibly powerful men, literally prime ministers, you know, that was like their. I guess, like, delegation. Do for him what you do for. For Jeffrey. Or he would be like, do for this guy what you do for me. And that would mean starting with the massage and basically getting raped. And then, like, she talks about when she met her husband and after, you know, they would have sex that she would immediately bring a washcloth to him to clean him afterwards. Like, she was so ingrained with this kind of manipulated behavior and, like, indoctrinated in this weir sex ritual that she thought this was normal. And he was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you doing? This isn't normal. But she had never experienced anything else, so. And it's like, we don't even know how many men she was trafficked to. I don't even know if she knows. There's, like, hundreds. They. Her lawyers and people she was working with would keep bringing more pictures and more pictures, and then she'd be like, oh, yes, this guy, this guy. She obviously didn't know their names because Epstein wouldn't tell her. But she was like, when you're this close to an older, ugly, depraved man raping you, you remember his face. So she kept like identifying, you know, more and more men that she was trafficked to. These men have like hog tied her, raped her so bad she was profusely, profusely bleeding, would laugh in her face at the trauma and the damage they would do. Multiple men almost killed her and literally laughed. We know, like one of the traffickers was Prince Andrew. That's all coming to light. There's lots of stuff on that if you're interested. But whatever, he's just a decoy. We're just having one person take, take the fall. Like all these emails. LinkedIn is probably Ghislaine to protect Trump, to like, for us to look somewhere else. Because Randy Andy is so embarrassing and he's entitled and he does think that he should be getting away with these acts, like these depraved sex acts against miners. Nobod not in the White House. Nobody in whatever the, the royal family likes him because he's such a freak. He's ostracized and people think he's going to run. So I guess we'll see where that goes. But she has that famous picture of them too where she's like 16, you know, GHIS in there, she had it taken because she liked to take pictures of her Kodak camera. I wish she took more pictures. I'm sure she does too. Just implicate these men. But he like straight up lied and was like, yeah, that's me. But that picture's not real. I've never met that woman. Like, which one is it, you idiot? That's. You just say it's not you or something. But we know it's you. Say it's AI, but it's like AI didn't even. Wasn't even around back then. And like he was like kind of good looking in the beginning. Randy Andy, that's what they call Prince Andrew. But I think when you're involved in these pedophilia rings and you're so interested and little girls, then your face literally turns into a pedo face. It's like from Sorted sex acts on children. It's like pillow face from the filler or any kind of a different face. Like you know him and now he literally looks like a pedo face. It's disgusting. I cannot even. I never had to look at him in the Eye, thank God. But I can't even look at him in the eye through YouTube. He's so disgusting. He looks like one. Like, they have a look.
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And I feel like this book, another big takeaway for me was like, what actually is sex trafficking and what it can look like? And I know it sounds naive, but I know I'm kind of like, not alone. Like, when you hear sex traffic, you're like a young girl picked up from the gas station in a white van, which, like, literally did happen to her. She's kept in a basement and then, you know, given from like house to house or something. Like, also equally stable. And maybe that's a, like a form of sex trafficking. But I didn't expect it, I guess, to look like how Virginia Giuffre's experience was like, I don't know, it looked different in practice, which, like kind of, which sounds like sterile and cold. But I guess she reading it from her, from a victim of like seeing all these interviews, we know what her face looks like. Like, it's, it humanizes it and it's, you know, it's her pov and she's a very like, normal person, which all this is all of these women. That's why I'm like, I, I, we don't. What really step scene files. Sure, sure. But it's like I want to know from the victims, like, we have to humanize these women and these victims, but this is sex trafficking. Obviously people are like, well, why couldn't she just escape or run away? But it's like she's been running away her whole life. She was obviously scared of them, threatened by them. They threatened her numerous times. They manipulated her so she would stay and it. This was the only means that she knew how to survive, literally from a young kid. Like, she was, it goes back to your basic needs. Like she was getting fed. Like she didn't know how to, to literally live kind of with without this. Especially coming from such an abused childhood. She was like, so like strung out from Xanax and alcohol, trying to disassociate from all these pedo face pervert fucks who raped her and abused her and assaulted her. That, you know, Epstein was like, kind of like kicked her out. And so she left. And she tried to get a couple jobs, but she couldn't hold her one down. First of all, she has no job experience. How does she explain what she's been doing to make money? She's coming down off Xanax. She's in the throes of this sex trafficking abuse. Like, people like that just cannot get a normal job. She had no support, no family, people in her life she paid for. So it's like she can't just, like, leave and get a normal job. Like, she is stuck mentally, physically. And then it came out that, like. Like she didn't have a relationship. You know, we're talking about her dad, her family, no one there to protect her. Epstein paid her dad off in hush money, which her dad obviously never told Virginia. She found out, you know, because he knew she was getting traffic. The dad knew that something fucked up was going on. Like, why is she traveling to all these places? What is she doing? He didn't intervene. The mom didn't intervene. Like, everyone failed her, and her dad took the money. So it's just like, right when you. Things think things can't get even more up, they. They do, but. And they say, like, family is the one factor that can make a difference on being homeless or not. Like, but she had no safety net. She had no one to catch her when she fell. Literally nobody protecting her. So it was like being in this sex trafficking ring or being homeless or being dead. And when she was homeless, I mean, I'm sure, like, a lot of homeless women, they're raped all of the time. Least, I guess she felt like she was being protected. Like, she does mention Stockholm syndrome and she thought that she was Jeffrey's favorite because he would tell that to her and be like, kind of like, oh, you mean so much to me. Your words are so meaningful. But he used that psychological manipulation into getting her to stay. So this is like, obviously his forte into manipulating young women and children, which, like, you know, we just know, like, she's a child. She's literally a child. She's 16. Imagine where you were at 16, what kind of up we believed back then. And then this is like, just so in your face, people. She didn't get a break. Like, this was literally all she knew. Nobody was telling her, this is wrong, this is wrong. You can get out. Like, she had to come up with this idea all on her own own. But it's like, well, they were like, oh, she did it for the money, like, whatever. She got one outfit when she met the prince, which obviously she's a teenager, so she wanted to wear a white tank and patterned jeans, which is the same outfit she wore to Naomi Campbell's birthday party, which there's pictures of. Both the Epstein and Ghislaine didn't even try in and protect her. She was at this celebrity Hollywood party. Not dressed in like a gown at Naomi Campbell's on a yacht. She's dressed in a T shirt and jeans. She looks like a 16 year old. Like, people knew what was going on. And she said that Naomi Campbell was an. So she did sell her out. Nobody else. Nobody has the other sex traffickers but Naomi Campbell. So it's like, what money? Sure, they. Sure, they paid her to, like, get an apartment and maybe gave her cash. But it's like almost like, no, obviously no amount of money would make it worth it. And she wasn't. It wasn't even about the money. It was about the psychological manipulation and abuse that she really felt. You know, she was stuck. She. She was afraid for her life. She didn't know where else to go. And she thought these people would track her down and kill her, which, like, who knows if they did? But she, like, wasn't a person to them. She wasn't human. She was just a sex toy. So I think, I don't know, I think her memoir, it's like she died, but at least we have her memoir and she really is a hero for all she's done for advocacy. But it does humanize, like, sex trafficking experiences. People think that prostitutes and women aren't people. They. They don't deserve to live, you know, almost like they deserve this. But she was incredibly charismatic. She's smart. She's immediately likable in all of her interviews and articulate and literally just normal. Like, watch. In these interviews, I'm like, how did she overcome all of this? She just seemed so normal. Like, you know, you see an interview of like, whatever people who have been through this kind of abuse, and it's like, oh, yeah, they're up. Like, obviously, look at what they went through. But if you, like, met her in the street, you just think she was an amazing mom who loved her kids, who's totally normal and had a happy childhood. Like, she's like, I don't know, her strength just comes through, but. And like, her strength and her bravery. I mean, when she started speaking out, like, she was threatened and tried to be hushed by Epstein and Ghislaine, scary people Would show up at her door with their headlights on late at night. She'd have to hide her kids and wave her pistol out the door to get them to go. The away paparazzi was chasing her. Journalists were calling her and then twisting her words and manipulating her story like she was never safe. Epstein and Glenn called her and was like, what? You're not going to say anything, right? Like, these people are terrifying people. She probably knows that they've killed other people even like she just wants to live in peace. So eventually like, so she did escape because they sent, finally sent her to massage school which like was supposed to be a reward. She begged in Thailand. They played for, for the schooling and the hotel. And normally Ghislaine will keep the passports of the. Those sex of the women being sex trafficked because she is the whatever madam mad dam and they don't have any autonomy or control of their own lives. But they sent her off. I think at this point they thought like they had her in her clutches enough and it had been going on for enough time. She left once and came back. She was really good. She was still young. Like they're like, okay. And she, they sent her to Thailand also for this massage school and to sex traffic. A specific Thai young girl who was probably asked for by Prince Andrew because he has an affinity apparently for Thai girls. And I don't even know how they find them, but they have like, they have like a menu. It's so sick of women. And then the sex traffickers get to pick theirs out. Like all a card. It's like, it's literally disgusting. But so she went to Thailand. She was like going out and stuff. Finally had some free freedom. Met her boyfriend or her now husband and like I think he kind of helped her, you know, be like he asked her to marry her. He asked her to marry him in like three days. And she was just looking for an escape. She was like, okay, this is finally it. Obviously you're in another country, you need to get the out. This is your one chance. So she took it. So she did escape. People like, why didn't she escape? She did escape, actually she did. You have to wait for the time is right when the time. And then she got the out of that there. But as abuse victims as it goes, we know she fell into the arms of another abuser. She cannot get a break. It's so sad what this woman has gone through. It's harrowing, like literally heartbreaking. And she did she like, she hid it from the media obviously because she was probably Sick of being a victim and just like, wanted to protect her family. But, you know, it's like when you're so when you're abused like this, it's like no amount of like, talk therap can really help you. People are like, you know, just do it and like, get better and underestimate what actually this means. And this looks like, like, like she was told by a therapist to write down all of the memories she had of, like, being raped. Like, okay, terrible. And she filled up a whole notebook, literally a whole journal. And then the therapist was like, okay, then light it on fire. Like, we haven't heard this like a million times. So she ripped off the pages one by one and put it in the bonfire. Shocker. She still has trauma. Like, okay, Mel Robbins. But I think she thought, like, you know, kind of going through the criminal system and, and trying to get these people locked away would finally bring her some justice. And then she could stop chronicling, like, all of her account abuse. Like, please give her a break. But as we know, the justice system is. And they just don't care. And they protect really powerful people. At the end of the book, they get into a lot of, like, legal jargon. Like, literally no matter what she does, she gets shut down. She works with these incredible lawyers, she builds cases, they do research for years and years and years. It pretty much takes up her life on, like, how to kind of, kind of go in, at least hold these people a little bit accountable. But it just does not work. For there's a protection against Epstein. For some reason, Ghislaine, like, just literally lied, did a smear campaign against her, like, which these people are to be believed because they have money and she doesn't. So I feel like, you know, then she just really wanted to turn to advocacy. And we just don't take crimes against women or children seriously. And it's disgusting and it's sad and it's a real problem. Like, it's a huge problem. So I feel like after reading this, like, it's like, okay, release the files. Release the files. We're never going to see the files. And I'm one of those. I am one of those in the comments. Release. If I release the files. Release the goddamn five. We want to see the for gained exiles, but we're not going to see them. They're probably destroyed. So, like, and just like, I feel like any kind of atrocity, we don't care. We. We are so focused on the perpetrators, but not the victims. But after reading her book, it's like, all of the women who have been sex trafficked need to be humanized. Like, this is what I want to and learn about. I want to know that they and I know they are real people and I want to hear their accounts. Like, we know that these billionaire pedos are sick and twist and disgusting and they're never going to go to jail. So at least give them a voice to talk about their experience. And then maybe people will. Maybe things will change and we'll like, start to care a little more.
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The next bad who We Lit a Candle For? Should I blow it out and light again? No. Who has the time? Eileen Warnos and a lesbian icon. Another American. She wrote the she, the documentary which I had been waiting so long for to come out on Netflix. Worth the wait. It's so good. You have to watch it. I don't know if you should be canceling your plans for your own sake. You don't maybe need to cancel plans to watch this, but I suggest you do. It's so. It was like not. Not quite what I expected. A little better in some ways. And then other ways. I thought we were going to go into, like, each of her victims. These are victims that I don't give a about because they're men. And she's just giving these men a taste of her own medicine. But the story is like, it's again, truly heartbreaking at the end. I feel like you have so many complicated emotions, but you just, like, really feel for her. They call her the, quote, queen of. She's queen of serial killers. She's my queen, all right. She's my queen, all right. She killed like six men. Who cares? Nobody cares when women die. Women die all the time when you literally don't even find their bodies, especially prostitutes and sex workers. So she just wanted to give it back to them. You know, all her years of abuse, she took. She took it out on them. And all of them deserve to die, I will say. And also all of her interviews, like, she is she. I mean, she does need Invisalign or Veneers. Or something. But she's a serial killer. Hello. But she is, like, charismatic. I'm sorry. She's fun to watch and she's rational. Like, she actually makes sense, I think is why maybe people were afraid of her. She was the first person to kind of like, unremorsefully be like, yeah, I killed these men. Men, they tried to kill me first. It makes sense, doesn't it? Like, they're a danger to society. She didn't torture anyone. She didn't put their body in a blender. She didn't dismember them. She didn't their bodies after they were dead. So which is like what men do to women all the time. After they kill them, she just pow, pow a couple in the chest and took their money and walked away. But because she's a woman, and again, because of our unjust, unfair legal system, she got the death penalty. She got the death penalty. Oh, and she again had a terrible childhood. Like, at six months, she was found in an attic, like, covered in rats by her grandma and her grandpa. Her grandpa was a pedophile, says the credible sources on Reddit. I don't know how they found that. I guess allegedly. Alleged. Alleged. That comedy podcast with this episode isn't very funny. I'm sorry. And so she, you know, had to run away, like, and also eat. I mean, and she. So she started to. I think she ran away at like 11 and started to prostitute or something. And she was literally supporting her brothers with the money that she made. Somebody had to support them and somebody had to eat. And she said she had over like 500 Johns, which John's is my new favorite term and accusations. It means the men partaking in prostitutes. The johns. The johns. The johns who don't pay you for sex deserve to die. And just because they do pay you for sex doesn't mean that it's okay to physically abuse and harm and rape the women that you're supposed to pay and kill them. Also kill them. How many prostitutes and sex workers die all the time? That again, we have no fucking clue about. They think sex workers deserve to die where they're actually people. And these men all, well, some of them just tried to kill her first. She was held at gunpoint numerous times. She was choked numerous times, a rope tied around her neck. Finally she said she had a copy friend, a cop friend, who was like, get a done. And then she did. And boy, did she use it. So. And like, people compare her to like the worst of the serial killers, like ten, Bundy and Yada. Yada. I forget who the other ones are, but it's like she wasn't, she's not like, who's the one, Brian Coburger, who broke in and stabbed all of these young college kids to death in the middle of the night and multiple stab wounds. No, no, these, these men walked into her den, for better or for worse, abused her, tried to kill her, and then she got him first. So it's self defense. It's, honestly, it was truly self defense. You know, she was literally like, she was just trying to work and make some money. And again, these men just think that it's okay to kill anybody want. Especially like if they're paying them for sex. And then they get away scot free. They get away. If she would have died, we would have never known her. Nobody would have found her body. The man would never be tried. They'd be walking free. But so it all started like, police started to find like dead bodies up on a Florida highway. And then we're like, okay, who's the serial killer? So weird. All the, so weird. All the victims are men. Men never die. Men are not never victims. This is a tragedy. And then this lawyer who is like evangelical into politics, mug running for some kind of an office, used her for his political gang because he ran on like the dangers of pornography and prostitution and decided to like spearhead her case and prosecute her. But it turns out that him and the judge had like a long standing friendship of over 20 years. Are you okay? The corruption. Is everyone okay? And the judge, in his pudgy little idiot ugly face, didn't even really show that emotion, but sometimes I thought he did. So it's like, do you have a heart? But it doesn't seem like he did. And the judge allowed him, the lawyer, to bring up murders, other murders. She was supposed to be tried independently of each murder, but he brought them all in, swaying the jury and lied multiple times, and the judge lied him. So then she got the death penalty and still had to be tried for all the other murders. So basically, so basically a lesbian love caused her to kill all these men. And honestly, I can relate. She fell in love tragically with a brutally ugly snitch and loving her caused her demise. Literally. It killed her. It gave me her, it gave her death row. And she said like, because she needed to go out and make money. So she said, you know, killing these men, when she was put in these dangerous scenarios, she would kill these men to make sure that she got another day with her girlfriend Tyra. And I Would. And I would relate. I'd do anything to see Robbie again. Again. Anything. She was so down bad. She knew it. But then the ogre girlfriend got involved with the police and faked a phone call that was tapped by them to get Eileen to confess. Shrek. Tyra Shrek. No. Fiona lied and said the police were going after her and contacting her family. And then she was like, you have to make it right. The girlfriend was saying this to Eileen. You have to go make it right. You have to go make it right. You have to confess right now. And if she never would have confessed or maybe thought about, like, how she was going to do it, if she was going to turn herself in, she never would have been caught. Or she could have thought about, like, okay, if they catch her, then I will plead self defense. So it was her biggest mistake. As told to this journalist in the doc, Michelle something thing, another Shiro, an incredible journalist who interviewed Eileen multiple times, sometimes unseen footage. She was always so objective. Her whole thing in journalism was to like bring justice to cases that she fought, you know, thought were. Were wrongful and that needed justice. And she was really on Eileen's side. She believed in her. She helped her tell her story that this was sel defense. And, you know, they were getting up from an interview and the journalist Michelle was like, you know, everyone I talk to say your biggest mistake was self confessing. All because of her snaggletooth girlfriend Tyra. Like this to love someone so much for them to literally, literally stab you in the back or push potassium on you, you like. But she didn't know any better. She was so in love and get this ugly. Tyra never went to see her in jail. Never talked to her again. Never wrote to her after. After she was convicted. Maybe after that phone call, if that was me and Robbie, I would, I would false confess. I'd be like, I'm in there with my girl and we'd fondle each other in prison and be right next to each other the whole time. Time. And so she. So Eileen, on the trial of the first guy she killed, this Richard guy, the lawyers, like asked her to give this testimony and they were basically just like using her pain against her, asking why she didn't explain the rapes in the confession. But obviously she was under duress because of her single tooth girlfriend, Tyra. Tyra needs veneers so bad. You guys have to go look at. You just have to look at the one tooth that's hanging from her gum right in the middle. And she thinks she deserved Eileen, you think that you're better than our girl Eileen? So Eileen's called to the stand, you know, to give this harrowing testimony about being brutally raped from a john that refused to pay her. So she was like, whatever. He picked her up on the side of the road. They, you know, had sex in the back. He didn't want to pay her. And then tied her up, tied like a rope around her neck, started choking her, then tied her to the steering wheel, her hands to the steering wheel, then continued to rape her. So bloody. She said there were sores into tears everywhere. Then he took a bottle of Visine with rubbing alcohol and squirted it up her vagina and up her nose and said he was going to save her eyes for later. Also, Eileen said that he anally raped her. But then before she was executed, she was like, I need to make it right with God. And she was like, okay, maybe I told one little lie. He didn't actually rape me up the butt, but, like, nobody gave me cares. She was like, I was just like, obviously stressed out on this day and thinking about the tragedies of rape and sodomy was fresh on my mind. I'm like, honestly understandable. Like, this is the thing is she is like, she is believable because she's never. Yeah, maybe she lied about sodomy, but she never lied about killing these men. She's not like, she's like pretty unapologetic about it. Like, this was self defense. But when she was giving this emotional, disgusting ceremony at what she's been through, the lawyer didn't even flinch. I mean, she was sobbing. This was. I had deposit, like, it was heartbreaking to hear what people are capable of. And then the lawyer said that he didn't think that murdering this Richard guy was a crime of passion, but a crime of absolute control and domination. What woman can dominate a man, man, literally, physically? She was the one tied to the steering wheel, getting burning alcohol shoved up her. We're not dominating anyone like that. Like, it's disgusting and depraved and she is definitely going to get a yeast infection, among other things. And he's like, I believe she wasn't hurt. I don't think she was. Was hurt. Do you have ears? Do you have any. Do you have literally at least a couple chambers in your heart? It doesn't seem like it, but this legendary journalist, Michelle, you know, kind of, I don't know, she did like Dateline. She's just incredible. She took it upon her to like, do lots of research about this case because she likes to expose, you know, corruption. And asked the. This idiotic prosecutor of a lawyer who. Who prosecuted her for. For this Richard guy, like, if he. If Richard, the guy that Eileen killed, had any criminal record. And he goes smugly, of course. Shit eating face. Not that I know of. Doesn't sound definitive. So then after he says that, she replies, oh, well, I looked into it, and he was convicted for. For sexual assault and attempted rape in SP. Spent 10 years in prison for criminal deviants because he's a danger to society. I'm gonna be sick. This lawyer didn't know that he had. This dead man had a criminal record. He didn't believe that this man was capable of hurting Eileen or that she was in any kind of danger. When he was literally in prison for 10 years because of this exact act. He said he. He, like, confessed to some sick, disgusting things, like he wants to go in the gas chamber and let him go. He will continue to be sexually deviant. And that's what he did. Like, what in. The kicker was that this journalist found these documents in this lawyer's office. Make it make sense. We just hate women. We hate women. Eileen didn't get a fair trial with a good lawyer. She had a good lawyer, but she was a woman. And the. And the lawyer was fired for no reason at all because the courts have the ability to do. To do those things. And it's just like. It's just another tale. It's just another tale of having a labia. But she also just, like. I mean, Eileen wasn't scared to stick up for women. She was like, they don't care about us. They don't care about sex workers. Like, she did, you know, say her testimonies time and time again. She never backed down in court, like. Like, I guess until the end. And she was so over it because they were gonna try. Like, she was gonna go all through these trials and retrials and retrials for every single man. And she was like, I've already been sentenced to death once. How many times can you kill me? Literally? So I think just, you know, at the end, naturally, she gave up. She was like this shit, I want to die. She made right with God, which, like, I don't blame her being close to spiritual. And she has a history of being a bad. So she's not some, like, religious freak. And then she has one last interview where she's kind of like, I gotta tell the truth. I'm like, God damn it, Eileen. What is going on? She's like, I Gotta tell the truth because I gotta meet my maker and I have to. She is so us. She's really so us. Just like, so guilty and be like, okay, sit down. I gotta tell you the truth. She's like, I wasn't sodomized. We're like, who. Who cares? The second guy she killed didn't rape her, but he was hitting her with a lead pipe. Again, self defense. Who cares? And one of the other guys also didn't rape her, but was a drug smuggler. And she can't even stand the sight of Advil. So again, who cares? He would have died. And these. These men are. Are symbols of all of the men who have hurt her and done her wrong in the past. So she was like, you know, a serial killer and I would continue to kill. And I'm like, honestly snaps. Honestly snaps. Like, she's so honest about it. I do believe she'd probably, you know, keep whacking them. Even though. Even though we as women would do not agree, maybe for her actions, but we can still have emotion and feel bad for her and realize how unfairly she was treated. And that's called new nuance. So that's our girl Eileen. Oh, you guys, I'm tired. I don't know if you enjoyed this or not, but speak to you soon.
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