Ravi Gupta sits down with The Argument's Kobe Yank-Jacobs for a conversation that begins with Elon Musk, USAID, and the politics of accountability before expanding into a bigger question: what kind of global leadership should America stand for? They separate political rhetoric from the evidence, then turn to artificial intelligence—exploring how AI is reshaping politics, jobs, and elections, and why neither party seems ready for what's coming. A thoughtful conversation about two of the biggest debates shaping America's future.

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