Louder with Crowder
Episode: Breaking: ICE Facility Shot in Dallas – Another Left-Wing Attack?
Date: September 24, 2025
Overview
In this episode, Steven Crowder and his co-hosts respond in real time to breaking news of a shooting at an ICE facility in Dallas, Texas. The team sifts through reports, examines the political and media reactions, and frames the attack within broader trends of political violence, media misinformation, and escalating rhetoric. Crowder also critiques mainstream portrayals of ICE and explores why such incidents may occur, explicitly questioning the narrative around which "side" political violence tends to come from. Later, the episode touches on cultural commentary (such as viral TikTok trends), offers a comedic interlude, and briefly discusses Jimmy Kimmel’s return to late night and its fallout.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. Breaking News: Dallas ICE Facility Shooting
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Initial Reports and Reaction ([02:01]–[08:28])
- Crowder opens with the breaking news of an active shooter at a Dallas ICE facility, with information still emerging regarding the perpetrator and victims.
- Early speculation centers on Internet narratives blaming both MAGA supporters and left-wing activists.
- Crowder questions prevailing assumptions and explores whether the attacker was radicalized by ongoing demonization of ICE agents, drawing comparisons to other recent political violence.
"Would you bet that someone targeting an ICE facility might be targeting members of ICE themselves?... Is it that crazy to think this person could be radicalized in the same way the terrorist who assassinated Charlie Kirk was?"
—Steven Crowder [03:11] - Co-hosts confirm, as news breaks, that the alleged shooter is dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound ([08:17]).
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Victim Updates and Official Statements ([14:26]–[18:34])
- Co-host Joe provides an update: at least two detainees have died, no ICE agents reported injured ([18:06]).
- Crowder and team stress that "immigration policy and deportation is very different from murder" and caution against false equivalency in the public discourse ([15:46]).
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Exchange with Law Enforcement and Officials ([23:23]–[26:24])
- Mayor Eric Johnson calls for prayer and unity, commending the rapid police and federal response. He urges the public to be patient and calm as investigations continue ([23:23]–[25:53]).
“I'm going to ask you all to join me also in praying for this city ... So please pray for everyone.”
—Mayor Eric Johnson [23:41–24:35] - The FBI confirms it’s investigating the incident as "an act of targeted violence" and cites a trend of similar recent attacks, including one in Alvarado, TX ([27:12]–[28:07]).
- Evidence is presented of anti-ICE messages on the suspect’s ammunition ([42:04]), supporting the theory of a politically motivated, anti-ICE shooter.
- Mayor Eric Johnson calls for prayer and unity, commending the rapid police and federal response. He urges the public to be patient and calm as investigations continue ([23:23]–[25:53]).
2. Media and Political Narrative: Fact Checking and Misinformation
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The Rush to Assign Blame ([28:09]–[36:06])
- Crowder discusses early reactions from progressive commentators attributing the shooting to right-wing or MAGA motivations, even before facts were established.
- JD Vance’s social media call for an end to attacks on law enforcement is juxtaposed against progressive Twitter users (e.g., Krasensteins, Angry Staffer) who pivot the narrative to fit their preferred explanations ([31:24]–[35:40]).
“The obsessive attack on law enforcement, particularly ICE, must stop. I'm praying for everyone hurt in this attack and for their families.”
—JD Vance (quoted by Joe) [31:24]“Somebody shot up an ICE facility … in that climate, a climate where [in Texas] there was a bomb threat, a coordinated attack... it is obvious to say, 'Hey, let's stop demonizing ICE.'"
—Joe [34:29] -
Statistics & Classification of Political Violence ([36:43]–[41:51])
- Crowder critiques how acts of violence against federal facilities are often automatically labeled as “right-wing” in research and media statistics—even when evidence points otherwise.
- Discusses how established resources (e.g., Cato, The Economist, Prosecution Project) omit clear cases of left-wing political violence from their records, ultimately rendering crime statistics “useless” for assessing risk to conservatives ([37:03], [41:51]).
“The purpose of crime statistics … is to assess risk going forward … if you have Cato and The Economist saying none of the Summer of Love was political violence … then the crime statistics serve no purpose.”
—Steven Crowder [40:24]
3. Role of Rhetoric and Ideological Indoctrination
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Radicalization vs. Indoctrination ([19:09]–[22:18])
- Crowder argues the narrative that left-wing violence is “radicalized” is inaccurate, insisting these perspectives are now mainstream within progressive institutions (universities, media, etc.).
“Radicalizing usually means someone goes down a rabbit hole … Is it fringe when the President and Vice President are espousing that? … I think it's simply indoctrinating."
—Steven Crowder [19:59]
- Crowder argues the narrative that left-wing violence is “radicalized” is inaccurate, insisting these perspectives are now mainstream within progressive institutions (universities, media, etc.).
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Demonization of ICE and Consequences ([21:00]–[22:27])
- The show plays a montage of media clips likening ICE to the Gestapo, referencing direct political rhetoric labeling ICE as secret police or fascists, and underscores the real-life risk this messaging creates for law enforcement ([22:27]).
4. Crowder’s Prescription: Protect Yourself and Change the Tone
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Advocating Self-Defense and Cultural Pushback ([44:41]–[54:24])
- Crowder concludes there's “no off ramp” unless the left acknowledges its role in escalating violence and calls for accountability. He pushes for the right to defend themselves lawfully but “ruthlessly,” calling for a more assertive stance against threats.
"The left needs to be afraid to show up and to mess with you ... because we are in all of their message boards ... They do not fear consequences. Right now. They think you are ... a sitting duck. That has to change. And I walk that back. Zero."
—Steven Crowder [47:18]
- Crowder concludes there's “no off ramp” unless the left acknowledges its role in escalating violence and calls for accountability. He pushes for the right to defend themselves lawfully but “ruthlessly,” calling for a more assertive stance against threats.
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Policy Suggestions
- Calls for an end to cashless bail, three-strike policies, and legislation forcing campus police to protect all viewpoints equally ([52:04]).
- Demands Section 230 reform and greater accountability for online calls to violence from the left.
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Call to Support ICE and Law Enforcement ([54:24]–[55:27])
- Urges his audience to show solidarity with ICE officers by wearing pro-ICE apparel, sending treats to law enforcement, or supporting organizations like TPUSA.
5. Cultural Commentary & Satire
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Viral Trends and “Miami Broad” Segment ([10:14]–[14:26])
- Crowder ridicules a viral TikTok where a woman itemizes her lavish Miami lifestyle paid for by her “man,” using it as a vehicle to critique contemporary feminism and generational values.
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Fact Checking Tylenol and Pregnancy Trend ([57:24]–[61:22])
- Discusses a social media trend in which pregnant women take Tylenol in a performative “protest” against advice attributed to Trump, lampooning left-wing performative outrage and “owning Trump” behaviors.
"It doesn't need autism doesn't need to be cured. They said you guys abort kids if they have down syndrome."
—Steven Crowder [58:24]
- Discusses a social media trend in which pregnant women take Tylenol in a performative “protest” against advice attributed to Trump, lampooning left-wing performative outrage and “owning Trump” behaviors.
6. Jimmy Kimmel’s Return and Media Critique
- Commentary on Kimmel's Response ([64:50]–[66:46])
- The show critiques late night host Jimmy Kimmel’s on-air response to the shooting of Charlie Kirk and defends local TV affiliates' decisions to not run his content.
- Asserts network priorities center on “fat salaries” rather than the local jobs and communities affected by nationalized, partisan programming.
Notable Quotes & Timestamps
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[03:11] Steven Crowder: “Is it that crazy to think that this person could be radicalized in the same way the terrorist who assassinated Charlie Kirk was … with the fascist, the genocide, the Nazi rhetoric … very similar to what’s been used for ICE, right? Gestapo, modern SS.”
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[18:06] Joe: “NBC is confirming that a second person has died … It does look like they were detainees, not any of the ICE people … They were shooting into the building haphazardly.”
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[19:59] Steven Crowder: "It’s not radicalization … it’s simply indoctrinating. … I don’t think if it’s mainstream, it’s not radical.”
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[22:15] Joe (paraphrasing media): “Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars … People disappearing, no due process, no oversight, zero accountability happening in the United States today.”
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[23:41–24:35] Mayor Eric Johnson: “I'm going to ask you all to join me also in praying for this city … So please pray for everyone.”
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[28:07] FBI Special Agent: “There was also a bomb threat at this facility in August. Early evidence … from rounds found near the suspected shooter contain messages that are anti-ICE in nature.”
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[31:24] Joe (quoting JD Vance): “The obsessive attack on law enforcement, particularly ICE, must stop. I’m praying for everyone hurt in this attack and for their families.”
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[34:29] Joe: “Somebody shot up an ICE facility … a climate where … there was a bomb threat, a coordinated attack … let's stop demonizing ICE.”
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[40:24] Steven Crowder: “The purpose of crime statistics … is to assess risk going forward … if you have Cato and The Economist saying none of the Summer of Love was political violence … then the crime statistics serve no purpose.”
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[47:18] Steven Crowder: “The left needs to be afraid to show up and to mess with you ... Right now. They think you are ... a sitting duck. That has to change. And I walk that back. Zero.”
Important Segment Timestamps
- [02:01] – Show begins, breaking news of Dallas ICE facility shooting
- [03:11] – Crowder speculates on shooter motivations and media narratives
- [08:17] – Confirmation shooter is dead, discusses victim updates
- [14:26] – News update, accuracy in reporting emphasized
- [18:06] – Death toll and identity of shooting victims (detainees, not ICE agents)
- [23:23] – Mayor Eric Johnson’s address and call for unity
- [27:12] – FBI confirms anti-ICE messages, targeted violence investigation
- [31:24] – Social media narratives and JD Vance’s reaction
- [36:43] – Classification of violence in media & statistics (right vs. left)
- [47:18] – Crowder's call for self-defense and changing the tone
- [52:04] – Policy proposals for crime and campus speech protections
- [54:24] – Call to support ICE and law enforcement
- [57:24] – Discussion of Tylenol/pregnancy TikTok trend
- [64:50] – Jimmy Kimmel’s segment and media criticism
Engaging, Flowing Summary – For Those Who Didn’t Listen
The episode opens with Steven Crowder and his team responding in real time to the breaking story of a mass shooting at an ICE facility in Dallas, Texas. Early segments highlight the uncertainty, with Crowder urging skepticism toward immediate partisan interpretations as both sides on social media attempt to claim the incident fits their narrative. As the news unfolds, Crowder and co-hosts reveal that the deceased are detainees, not ICE agents, and explore the possibility that the shooter’s motivation was shaped by anti-ICE rhetoric pervasive in mainstream media and left-leaning political circles.
Crowder traces the lineage of public demonization of ICE by referencing repeated comparisons to the Gestapo and Nazi Germany by politicians, academics, and journalists. He argues that such messaging isn't “radicalization” in the fringe sense, but mainstream “indoctrination” that makes attacks on ICE or right-leaning figures more likely. The panel draws parallels with the killing of Charlie Kirk, presenting an argument that political violence is on the rise from the left, in their analysis, and is often misrepresented or mislabeled in major media and academic statistics.
The hosts push back on the “both sides” framing, pointing out that statistical reporting from organizations like Cato and The Economist often fails to classify left-wing violence accurately, rendering data useless for predicting risk. They argue that leftist rhetoric, doxxing, and physical attacks contribute to a culture of fear and perceived impunity for attacks against law enforcement and conservatives.
Reflecting on solutions, Crowder calls for legal reforms (ending cashless bail, ensuring campus free speech protections), social support for ICE and law enforcement, and most importantly, grassroots assertiveness—encouraging listeners to lawfully, but forcefully, defend themselves. Crowder concludes the main segment with a stark prediction: unless the left as a whole acknowledges and reins in its most extreme rhetoric and behaviors, further escalation is inevitable.
The episode rounds out with cultural satire—mocking a TikTok influencer’s luxury lifestyle exposé and a viral trend where pregnant women record themselves defiantly taking Tylenol as a protest against Trump. Crowder sees such behavior as emblematic of a culture defined by performative rebellion and misplaced outrage.
Finally, in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination, Crowder critiques Jimmy Kimmel’s return to late night and his subsequent statements, arguing it reflects the performative, polarized media culture driving much of the conflict the episode unpacks.
For more details, view the original episode video or consult referenced official statements and mainstream news updates.
