Brian Stelter's Delusional Response to the Charlotte Stabbing is Everything Wrong With Media

Summary

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Episode Overview

Title: Brian Stelter's Delusional Response to the Charlotte Stabbing is Everything Wrong With Media
Date: September 9, 2025
Host: Steven Crowder with Josh Firestein, Jill, and guest commentators

This episode dives into the media’s coverage of the Charlotte stabbing of Ukrainian refugee Irina Zyrutska, zeroing in on Brian Stelter's response and how it allegedly epitomizes the problems within legacy media. Crowder and his panel discuss the disconnect between what matters to average Americans and what the mainstream media chooses to focus on, calling out liberal talking points, the state of violent crime, education policy, and the manipulation of narratives around race, gender, and politics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Charlotte Stabbing and Media Spin

• Crowder’s take: Mainstream (legacy) media ignored or underplayed the Charlotte stabbing until grassroots internet efforts forced their hand.
• Critique of Media: Instead of owning their blind spot, Crowder argues mainstream outlets blamed public outrage on “racist” internet influence rather than failures in reporting and public safety.
  • “They decided that this story getting coverage should be blamed on you, and they begrudgingly had to cover it. But they finally did. Pat yourselves on the back. That's your doing.” – Crowder [11:19]
• Brian Stelter’s Role: Stelter is used as an archetype for mainstream media’s “gaslighting” tactics.
  • "He says the things that all of them are trying to say, but he's too stupid to realize that he should frame it in another way." – Crowder [16:38]
• Victim of Stabbing: Irina Zyrutska, a young woman whose murder, Crowder says, was enabled by progressive policies allowing repeat violent offenders (DeCarlos Brown—multiple priors) to remain free.
• Critique of empathy focus: Crowder hits back at the “hurt people, hurt people” trope, insisting policy should prioritize protecting victims over rehabilitating violent offenders.

2. Brian Stelter’s Commentary Dissected

• Stelter’s points:
  1. Murders rarely make national news, but this spread via shocking footage and Trump/MAGA activists.
  2. Social media activism made the story a “symbol of big city crime.”
  3. Some online reactions are overtly racist, but questions about repeat offenders are legitimate.
• Crowder’s rebuttal:
  • Crime rates, repeat offenders, and statistical realities are the issue, not race-baiting.
  • “At what number, Brian, do you stop calling us racist and grant that the person may be a career criminal and this was preventable? […] My number is three.” – Crowder [19:09]
• Notable moment: Crowder challenges Stelter on thresholds for career criminality, using sarcastic “hobbyist” and “semi-pro” criminal analogies.

3. Race, Crime Stats, and Media Narratives

• Crowder presents crime statistics to argue that black Americans are "disproportionately" represented in murder data (44% of murders, 12% of population; [30:14]).
• Criticizes “racism” as a convenient deflection, accusing the media and leftist policymakers of ignoring hard data.
  • “It would be racist to not [look at crime statistics]. You guys understand that. And you know who would agree? Every single law abiding black American in this country who is tired of their community's shit.” – Crowder [42:20]

4. Police Body Cams & Media Manipulation

• Bodycam Footage: Panel discusses how initial outcry for police body cams post-George Floyd hasn’t led to more police convictions, suggesting footage often contradicts initial media narratives.
• Predicts future leftist pushback against body cams due to privacy arguments. Draws comparisons to Canada restricting security cameras [27:04].

5. Education Decline & Government Failure

• Crowder pivots to national test score declines, blaming federal involvement (Department of Education) and lampooning excuses ("COVID" vs. decades-long decline).
  • “Standardized testing across the board tells us that the system has made people dumber. […] More money has been put into the Department of Education. Just more and more and more money, and we see the results are bad.” – Crowder [40:25]
• Argues for defunding/dooming the Department of Education and exploring alternatives like charters or homeschooling.

6. Narrative Manipulation: Trump and Domestic Abuse

• Crowder and team review a viral left-wing edit of Trump seeming to minimize domestic violence, playing an extended clip to show context and labeling opponents as either “dishonest or mentally ill.”
  • "If you interpret that 'a little fight with the wife'… as Donald Trump endorsing or supporting physical spousal abuse, you are either being dishonest or you're mentally ill." – Crowder [47:25]
• Segment closes by mocking online critics, especially those on Reddit, and drawing out the narrative’s absurdities.

7. Gen Z Polling, Women, and Conservative Values

• A preview of the next segment (begins at [56:41]): New NBC poll shows Gen Z women are more liberal, men more conservative; Crowder argues this relates to divorce, child-rearing, and societal stability.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

On Media Reaction to Charlotte Stabbing

• Crowder [13:04]: “Why is it victim blaming if someone says… 'Were you out at dark dressed like a prostitute… Well, of course you don't deserve to be raped, but those are bad decisions.' …But in this case, we have a dead woman. And we start with the solution—our mind is toward: How do we help these kinds of guys who kill these women?”

On Repeat Offenders

• Crowder [19:09]: “At what number, Brian, do you stop calling us racist and grant that the person may be a career criminal and this was preventable? Give me a number. […] I’ll give you three. Three strike policy.”

On Racism Accusations

• Crowder [42:20]: “Do you hate black people? If the answer is no, don't be concerned about someone calling you racist. […] It would be racist to not [look at statistics].”

On Media and Context Manipulation

• Crowder [47:25]: “If you interpret that 'a little fight with the wife'... as Donald Trump endorsing or supporting physical spousal abuse, you are either being dishonest or you're mentally ill.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Main theme/setup & Charlotte crime problem – [00:00]–[11:19]
• Media forced coverage/Mug Club credit – [11:19]–[12:15]
• News Recap & Brian Stelter’s Segment – [12:42]–[19:37]
• Crowder’s strike threshold//crime empathy – [19:09]–[20:51]
• Video footage/reaction to George Floyd precedent – [22:08]–[27:04]
• Police bodycams & Canadian surveillance – [27:04]–[28:11]
• Crime stats & discussion on racial components – [28:20]–[34:14]
• DA policy & "IOU" legal catch/release critique – [34:14]–[38:16]
• Education decline/statistics, school policy – [38:31]–[42:22]
• Race, statistics, and leftist ‘racism’ response – [42:22]–[44:15]
• Trump domestic violence narrative & clip breakdown – [44:22]–[47:25]
• Mocking online critics (Reddit/left) – [47:25]–[53:27]
• E. Jean Carroll segment/makeup & believability – [54:11]–[55:08]
• Women, Gen Z, and culture wars preview – [56:41]–

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Tone and Delivery

Crowder’s tone is combative, sarcastic, and politically incorrect, blending dark humor with insult, exasperation, and statistical argument. Jill and Josh sustain the banter, offer cultural comparisons, and sometimes play devil’s advocate, but mostly reinforce Crowder’s framing of elites/left/media as manipulative or detached from reality.

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Conclusion

This episode unpacks the mainstream media’s alleged failures on crime reporting and narratives, especially regarding issues of repeat violent offenders, racial realities in crime statistics, and the manipulation of video context for political attacks. The hosts blast the left’s fixation on “racism” and “empathy for criminals,” call out declining education under federal policy, and frame these issues as symptomatic of a broader cultural decline—one needing tough, usually conservative solutions.

For listeners: You’ll get Crowder’s signature blend of sarcastic outrage, a battery of statistics supporting his arguments, pointed media criticisms, and a preview of coming culture war topics, all delivered with an unapologetic, combative tone.

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Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

Welcome to the rumble lineup live, 7am to 9. Wait, what did I say? 9am to 7pm Eastern. I reversed the 7 and 9. It's a good start. Glad to be with you. Welcome, Vince. Viewers, of course, once Bongino army, always Bongino Army. You get to watch everything free all day. And these shows, it actually ties into today. Top shows running, streaming at that point in time on any given day. Think about that for a second. And that brings us to this story. Legacy media is no longer really media. We used to call anything online new media. It's not really new. I mean, since Al Gore invented the Internet, but they used to be able to still kind of dictate what was covered. Give yourselves a pat on the back. Because of you, now legacy media has had to cover the Charlotte stabbing. And we're going to talk about that today. Brian Selter, who still has a job for some reason, I don't get it. I don't know, other than blatant extortion or blackmail, of course, blames you because you're racist. And of course the left is blaming crime stats because they are racist. But the truth is we're kind of saying the exact same thing, only they're throwing out the accusation of racism. And the left now is trying to fabricate. No, we're not talking about the Epstein picture. They're trying to fabricate the idea that Donald Trump. We'll talk about this today. Supports domestic violence. Did you know that? Did you know that that's a part of Project 25 or whatever they make up that day? Yeah, there's a video and a quote of him beat your wives. I was very disappointed. I was incredibly disappointed. But I'm going to try and analyze it. I think there's some nuance here. It's a gradient as far as hit, no hit. There's a lot of in between. And we're going to talk about Gen Z, women and men. There's a new poll, it just came out from NBC. They don't value the same things as far as marriage, children. Who values those things may surprise you and even more is who doesn't? I know that you think liberal feminists obviously don't want children. They want a career. That's not the takeaway from this poll. And you know what the good news is? I think we can fix the dating and marriage problem. But let me ask you this before anything else, question of the day. How would you solve the problem of violent crime in our cities? I already told you yesterday that we need to disbar Judges. Right. For repeat offenders who are soft on crime, we need a culture of concealed carry and we need a fast track for Good Samaritan laws where we actually want to encourage it, not just punish people. That's my three step program. What's yours? On with the show.

[Josh Firestein]

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[Jill]

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[Jill]

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[Jill]

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[Steven Crowder]

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[Jill]

Certainly is a time.

[Steven Crowder]

It is a time. And that time is 11am Eastern weekdays. That's when we're live. And even on Fridays if you're a Rumble Premium member. Captain Morgan, CEO, how are you?

[Jill]

Fantastic. I feel bad about myself with saying that the whole time thing.

[Steven Crowder]

So. Why do you feel bad?

[Jill]

It was corny.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, no, it's bad that you pointed it out.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, I was just.

[Jill]

Kept going with it.

[Steven Crowder]

I was just going.

[Josh Firestein]

Sometimes you say something corny and you move on.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, it's just like you just stick. You create a sticking point and it just ruins so much. I need to be honest.

[Josh Firestein]

You're cool if you let yourself be cool.

[Steven Crowder]

Gerald. Gerald. Just be yourself. Yeah, that's be yourself. You don't have to. You don't have to try and be all things to all people because if you try and be all things to all people, then you're nothing to anyone. Which is where you find yourself.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, it's like a chameleon.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly. How. Like a chameleon, but not the cute one that does car commercials like the one that you just.

[Josh Firestein]

It changes Colors.

[Steven Crowder]

It has a long time to get our animals. Doesn't even know he's colorblind, so he can't enjoy the wonder that is the chameleon.

[Josh Firestein]

It's always the same color.

[Steven Crowder]

It's. I. Yeah, pretty much to him. Sucks, man.

[Jill]

Those things don't change at all. Those lion bastards.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, pretty much always. Great. I guess it's even more effective camouflage. They just go, like. Just get in Gerald's line of sight.

[Jill]

Totally safe.

[Steven Crowder]

Visions based on movement. Yes, that's also a myth. Friday, remember you were. You were told that you were a dinosaur denier if you just said, hey, hey, of course I believe in dinosaurs, but how do you know, based on, like, that T. Rex, that their vision is based on movement? Like, what do you. What do you deny evolution? Can we just. All right, fine.

[Josh Firestein]

Did you not see the movie?

[Steven Crowder]

Star Joe said so now it looks like a giant turkey, but they've gone back. They're like, I know. Actually, it probably looked more like a reptile. I don't care. I don't. Whatever. Friday, Saturday, September 26th, 27th, at Cap City Comedy Club in Austin, Texas. Josh Firestein. How are you?

[Josh Firestein]

I'm good. I'm good. I saw the Conjuring last night.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, that's horrible.

[Josh Firestein]

Wife and I went to the Conjuring. I liked it. It was great. I sat next to some lovely black ladies.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, yeah. It was a cultured experience.

[Josh Firestein]

No, it was great. They were saying all the things that I was thinking.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, exactly.

[Josh Firestein]

Everything that I was thinking, they said. And I was like, thank God these ladies said it. And I don't look like an idiot in front of these dudes.

[Steven Crowder]

No, that's exactly. If you just. If you just do the first showing at a Magic Johnson theater, you don't need to hire a narrator.

[Guest Commentator]

It was.

[Josh Firestein]

It was like something would happen in the movie, and I'd hear, mm, mm. And I heard.

[Steven Crowder]

I heard, mmm.

[Josh Firestein]

And I'm like.

[Steven Crowder]

I was just thinking, yeah, me too.

[Josh Firestein]

I was like, that makes sense.

[Steven Crowder]

Especially, like, eating a bowl of cereal. I go, mmm.

[Guest Commentator]

Is that what you do?

[Steven Crowder]

Is that what they. Is that was happening on screen?

[Josh Firestein]

No, it was like a realization that something happened. It was like a revelation of sorts.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, I'll call it cultural differences. Tell you where we all have something in common is fighting human beings. The art of combat. You think? A. That only happens, like, in Memphis, Charlotte, you know, American areas that usually, you know, involve the intersection of MLK and Malcolm X Boulevard, but it actually happens across the whole world. So here is an argument that escalates between a passenger and, I guess, an official in Shenzhen, China. And it's on a subway. And she does the playing possum thing, but it doesn't work out. Dropping everything. Think about that. She's full, winding, and he's shielding himself with one hand. Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

What's in that bag? Nothing. Or is she just weak or. It's all falling on the floor.

[Steven Crowder]

Though he's at most mildly annoyed.

[Josh Firestein]

I like his little siren, though.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, geez.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, that was a lady. See, the reaction she got was when she hit a lady. Here it comes.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, and she's dead.

[Steven Crowder]

No, see, she then flops her arm over.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, that's Chinese Spock.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. People want to say, yeah, how is nobody reacting more there? It's just. It's very, very different from. No, look what would happen in the States. How precious to be. Yes. It gets out of way. I don't have time. I must take a American job now. And I know to all you people who spent your whole life living a lie, you want to think it's the dim mock or there's some pressure point which we of course know doesn't work. It's complete bullcrap. I'm sorry that you wasted 10 years of your life. Because that lady. It wasn't so much the dim mock so much as hoping for a lawsuit or a payout mock. Because she just goes down and then her arm goes. No. Oh, this better position. Oh, it look more fatal. That's right. It look like a crew. Oh, candlestick draw a talker outright. Yes. And here's the thing. It just shows you too, because what you didn't see, that's one camera. But another camera angle shows you how corrosive Western influence is. It doesn't know boundaries as seen when you watch the clip with the original enhanced audio. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh. Look at that. She was kung fu fighting your ass. Oh, she used her purse like a nunchuck. Oh, world star.

[Jill]

Why would you let somebody beat you like that? Dude, if I was that guy.

[Steven Crowder]

Because it's a woman. Let's be honest.

[Jill]

No, I don't care if she's beating me like that. I'm picking her up, throwing her. I can do that.

[Josh Firestein]

That's a difference in culture. They are not your size.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jill]

That's fair.

[Steven Crowder]

You would be a giant. They'd be hor.

[Josh Firestein]

Everyone's David, when you go to China.

[Steven Crowder]

I'll just go murder. I could give any man in here. And certainly, let's go with Josh and Jill I could give you a purse. Just put in the basic items.

[Josh Firestein]

I have my own.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, perfect. It's a European carry all. I understand. And then say, okay, you can full wind me for as long as it takes for me to get out of this studio. And then we could exchange roles. Not a single one of us would make it to the door without being knocked out. That's the difference in power between a man and a woman.

[Josh Firestein]

Maybe, maybe not knocked out, but you're going to be. You're going to be bleeding. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Crying out loud. At youth group, I got. I got in trouble because I put a boot in my case when we were having dorm pillow fight. Yeah.

[Jill]

Somebody.

[Steven Crowder]

Everyone did it. My mistake was the steel toe.

[Josh Firestein]

Even if there's nothing in the purse that's of, you know, significant weight, it's does zippers.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, true.

[Josh Firestein]

I'm going to mess you up with a zipper, dude. I'm going to. That's going to be some serious power coming behind that.

[Steven Crowder]

I got. I got completely messed up from the seam on the tube at the water park.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, that's right.

[Steven Crowder]

I was walking up the stairs. I looked down like, what was I? What was I, Tucker Carlson, visited by a demon in my sleep. What are these claw marks? Bruised like a peach. They have peaches in China. I don't care.

[Jill]

So, yes, we'll send some.

[Steven Crowder]

This is a. This is a big. This is a big deal, guys. This is a big deal. We told you yesterday, right? This, this, this Next story, ap. At that point, Axios, NBC, abc, cnn, msnbc, they hadn't covered the story at all regarding Irina Zyrutska, the murder that we were discussing. And you saw a real disconnect between what people cared about, what you care about online, what is affecting the average American. You know, I would say the average American, the Americans who elect president and legacy media. Now, instead of taking accountability and saying, all right, okay, we should have seen this, we have a bit of a blind spot. They decided that this story getting coverage should be blamed on you, and they begrudgingly had to cover it. But they finally did. Pat yourselves on the back. That's your doing. A suspect is in custody, but as the victim's family mourns, the crime is.

[Josh Firestein]

Becoming a focal point for political wrangling. Last month's killing of Ukrainian refugee Irina Zyrutska has received national attention. Suspect decarlos Brown has a reported history of psychiatric issues and felony arrests, though most of the older charges were dropped. In a statement, Mayor Vi Lyles said the city needs Bipartisan solutions to address releasing alleged repeat offenders and those who need mental health treatment.

[Guest Commentator]

The president sees the alleged horrific murder.

[Brian Stelter]

Of a Ukrainian refugee in Charlotte.

[Steven Crowder]

The incident drawing national attention and outrage from President Trump, who spoke against cashless bail.

[Guest Commentator]

It's about the fact that we don't know how to deal with. With people who were hurting in the way this man was hurting.

[Steven Crowder]

Hurt people. Hurt people.

[Guest Commentator]

What happened was horrible, but it becomes an opportunity for people to jump on bandwagons.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I don't care.

[Jill]

Hurt people. Hurt people.

[Steven Crowder]

What are you, a youth pastor? Think about. Hurt people, Hurt people. Nah, I think it's a heinous murder that could have been easily prevented.

[Josh Firestein]

Bandwagons.

[Steven Crowder]

Alleged serial offender.

[Josh Firestein]

The victim had a Black Lives Matter sticker. Our poster on our wall.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I saw that. I don't know if you were able to confirm it, but it seems like that was the case. And, you know, look, young women are easily influenced. That's. If only they knew. And maybe that's the reason that she was sitting in a place that is completely ill advised. Of course, this is not victim blaming. I'm just trying to help you with situational awareness so that you don't end up dead. But alleged. The media just can't help themselves. Alleged serial offender. Do you mean the 14 mugshots? Do you mean the years in prison? Come on, guys, what are we. We can't have bipartisan solutions if we can't address the root of the problem. The root of the problem is we have a system that allows a man on the streets after 14 crimes and an innocent lady is dead. That's the problem. And of course, oh, we didn't know how to help this man, treat this man. You know what, Van Jones, that may or may not be true. I couldn't give less of a shit. I think that's where. I'm sorry, I don't care. Hey, maybe he had some tough breaks. Maybe his dad went out for cigarettes and never came back. I don't care. I'm sorry. It doesn't matter. That's not how we craft a solution. Imagine if we started off right now going, okay, how do we help these people? No, no. Why is it victim blaming if someone says, hey, hold on a second, hold on a second. Were you out at dark dressed like a prostitute and then went home with a strange man at 2 in the morning and had drinks and took pills? Well, of course you don't deserve to be raped, but those are bad decisions. That's victim blaming. But in this case, we have a Dead woman. And we start with the solution our mind is toward. How do we help these kinds of guys who kill these women? How about we start with protecting the women? How about we start with protecting the law abiding citizen? We used to. We used to. And of course, the rest of the media, they just harped on mental health. It's a mental health crisis. And this man was mentally ill. And this is fueling fire for Mag. They're trying to use this to gin up the base. Okay, all right, fine. You know what? Let's go with that. The only difference is that you throw in the accusation, sometimes veiled, sometimes not, of racism. Outside of that, we're saying the exact same thing.

[Josh Firestein]

We're saying the same thing.

[Steven Crowder]

All saying the same thing.

[Josh Firestein]

I said the exact same thing.

[Steven Crowder]

All right, and that's going to bring us here to Brian Stelter, who for some reason has a job and of course can generate no viewership online as all of these CNN hosts. By the way, best way to stay in touch, download the Rumble app and follow me there, because Brian Stelter would. I mean, he'd have a seizure if he had the kind of viewership that conservative shows here on Rumble have. And it'll never happen. We all know that. And we all know he has some dirt on people. That's why he has a job. Do we have this separated into two clips? Yes. Okay, so Brian Stelter, we just gave you. Check all of the references.

[Guest Commentator]

New York Times.

[Steven Crowder]

I had to make up for. Okay, for yesterday. I woke up angry about it. How did we miss it?

[Josh Firestein]

Love that.

[Steven Crowder]

So New York Times access all these. They're blaming you and they're blaming the system, not for a repeat offender being released, but that we didn't address the mental health concerns, whatever it is, the worst of the worst. And we only point to Brian Stelter not because he's significant, not because he's impactful, but he's just the best representative because he says the things that all of them are trying to say, but he's too stupid to realize that he should frame it in another way. So here's everything wrong with the left in how they try to frame it.

[Brian Stelter]

Most murders in the US Never become national news. This one's garnered attention for a couple of reasons. Number one, first and foremost, the recent release of that gruesome video. Second, the energy from pro Trump activists. They picked up on this video from local news and ran with it. It's a little bit like the times when civil rights groups have raised attention about police involved shootings in this case, Trump aligned influencers who are posting up a storm about this case on social media. Really over the weekend, Elon Musk, Charlie Kirk, other Trump align figures succeeded in making this senseless death a symbol of big city crime.

[Steven Crowder]

So let me pause you right there, Mr. Stelter. I think what made this a symbol of big city crime, was it being a big city crime. Was it being a heinous crime committed in a big city? We didn't make it that. So I agree with you. We're talking about that. But that's because it's what it was. Continue.

[Josh Firestein]

Charlotte's not a big city by the way.

[Steven Crowder]

It's certainly big enough. It's certainly big enough for it to be big city crime with a, again with a leftist mayor. It would be bigger than what we knew as rural in suburban America. So okay, all right, fine. This is a story about big city D.C. chicago. Yep. It's not as big as those. Stelter. I agree. I think it's actually the criminal who made it that story. Let's continue.

[Brian Stelter]

This story has trickled up from so from local news to social media and now to the President's attention and it's being used, as you said, Brianna, as a political symbol with MAGA media calling for more forceful punishments and more incarceration.

[Steven Crowder]

Correct.

[Brian Stelter]

I have to say some of the replies to Musk, some of the comments around this story are baldly racist, stoking fear of African Americans because this man attacked a white woman. The open racism on sites like X today, it's eye popping. But there are also legitimate questions about this so called career criminal, someone who had been a repeat offender. And those questions, I hope they're not lost amid all of the cesspool kind of comments on social media.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, but you're acting as though the cesspool is the people addressing that he's a career criminal, you say so called. Let me ask you this, what's the threshold? Is it 3? Is it 5? Is it 8? Is it 10? 14? What's the number, Brian? At what number? Brian, do you stop calling us racist in grant that the person may be a career criminal and this was preventable. Give me a number. I'll tell you what mine is three.

[Josh Firestein]

I have two. I think that makes me a hobbyist.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, there you go. That makes you. Yeah, it's like, you know, you dabble.

[Josh Firestein]

Hobbyist. Yeah, dabble in criminality.

[Steven Crowder]

Like semi Pro. So 14 doesn't suffice. Brian, give me the number. I'll give you three. Three strike policy. If you committed especially A violent crime three times. You are a career criminal. It's like Stelter can't even compute this. He later had to soothe his aching soul the only way he knows how. Yeah, well, that makes. Get him off screen. And it's one of those things. They try and act as though they have a. They always try and act as though they have a corner on empathy. No, everyone here. And I know everyone here, I know these people well. And sure, we break balls. I get that. But everyone here is empathetic. It's just our empathy is with the girl who was killed and the families who didn't get to say goodbye. Our empathy runs out by, like I said, crime three. That's where ours runs out. Where does yours? When do you start, I guess, displacing your empathy from the guy who made his choices to the woman who was robbed of hers. Yeah.

[Jill]

Let me give you number one. One time that you get to go into a courtroom and say, my client is not fit to stand trial, your honor. Then he's not fit to be in public.

[Steven Crowder]

1. Yep.

[Jill]

None of the rest even matter in this particular case.

[Steven Crowder]

Think about that. Hey, my client is so insane, he's not fit to stand trial. So could we send him on his merry way back out to a crowded place? Good enough for me. What are we doing?

[Josh Firestein]

Give him a light rail ticket.

[Jill]

I believe that was in July of this year. Correct me if I'm wrong, it's one of the times. I think it was. No, that. That specific time that the lawyer stood. Either July of this year or last year. I think it was this year.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Jill]

So insane.

[Steven Crowder]

One, he was a little late to the punch, as he always is. Brian Stelter, he moves slowly. He's the shape of the cup you put him in. But when. When President Trump. Trump found out the truth. Talking about empathy. When President Trump found out the truth about Brian Stelter, he actually was, hey, give him credit. Pretty empathetic. Pretty compassionate, actually.

[Donald Trump]

Sad to hear that. I am sad to hear that. Thank you very much.

[Steven Crowder]

He has a heart. He has a heart.

[Jill]

Big heart.

[Steven Crowder]

Let me give you three reasons that this murder is actually a national story. Number one. Yeah, I agree. The footage. I agree. That's a big part of it. We covered it on August, I think, 25th. The footage hadn't been available yet. Video footage always, always increases some kind of emotional attachment more than just secondhand reports. You read it, that's one thing. You see it happening, and you see the level of violence. Of course, there's a visceral reaction to that here's a quote, by the way, from George Floyd's lawyer, Ben Crump. He said, we all watched the horrific death of George Floyd on video as witnesses begged the police officer to take him into the police car and get off his neck. Now, he doesn't mention the fact that he was in the police car and he demanded to be taken out after they opened the windows and turned on the air conditioning, but had a panic attack. I agree. Video footage is very effective, right? Because following the video footage of George Floyd. Well, the edited footage and then the full footage was buried. There was a call, There was massive demand for police body cams. Remember that? People saying, if we have body cams, that'll change the police brutality, which, by the way, doesn't exist. As far as black men being shot in record numbers compared to white men, they wanted body cams, body cams, body cams. Because the footage was important. On that we agree. Where we disagree is once we had all the body cam footage, it didn't turn out the way the left thought it would, did it? Hey, you gonna go down? That's Jesus. That's Jesus. Get down on the ground.

[Josh Firestein]

Hey, get down. Put the knife down.

[Steven Crowder]

Please.

[Guest Commentator]

Back up.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, yeah, back up, back up. Don't let her get that close. Back up. The next thing, get on the ground with the knife down. Suspect Sam, she got a taser. We did Taser. She came at me with a knife. What the hell did you expect me to do? Yeah, actually, I have a question for you. Since George Floyd or that era, right, Body cam footage was demanded. Name me one. Mike Brown or George Floyd. Since then, since it's basically become universal policy, give me one example of police footage that resulted in riots and the modern day civil rights trial of the day. Since we've had access to the footage which you demanded, give me one George Floyd. Let me hear it. Give me one. Mike Brown. Give me one. Trayvon. Give me one. Tamir Rice. Give me a name. Anything that even comes close. Oh, maybe that's why. Maybe that's why the footage was important. Because back then it blinded you. When we didn't have footage, right, you just had facts that were delivered from the left, which were what I refer to as anti facts. We used to refer to them as lies. So I don't know if you know this, but they would say, oh, black men are shooting. No, no. There was that famous Harvard study, you guys know. It showed there were no racial differences in police shootings. When you looked at both. None. This was a black man. As I Remember at Harvard, who was absent? He was raked over the coals when he poured over the raw data, the contextual factors. It's as thorough as has ever been done. And it was conducted after I had done the change my minds on this very topic.

[Josh Firestein]

He did it twice too, didn't he? Because he didn't like the results.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep, he did it twice. And he was basically canceled. A black professor saying, sorry, look, these are the numbers. Also, by the way, when you just go to armed. The studies that we have, we have this from Washington Post. It shows that officers are three times actually less likely to shoot unarmed blacks than unarmed whites. Now, that's an outlier. And it's specifically unarmed. Let me make a prediction for you, Lane. The brain and I both agree on this. The war on police body cams are coming. It's going to be the aclu, they're going to say that, hey, hey, this is a violation of privacy rights because it's not turning out the way that they'd hoped, you know, like they have in Canada. Did you know this in Canada, in Hamilton, Ontario, they're. They're actually requiring people to take down their security cameras. So you can't have a gun and you can't have a security camera if it faces a public roadway or public property.

[Jill]

So, like a ring camera.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Jill]

No.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep. What? That's policy. Let me know if you think. I bet you at some point in the next five years there's gonna be a war on police body cam footage. And before that, we'll probably see the demand for it to not be released on the basis of privacy rights.

[Josh Firestein]

And they'll be fighting against the police union.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Josh Firestein]

Because they like them.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Josh Firestein]

As far. I mean, maybe there's some officers in the chat, they can disagree, but from what I've understood and heard, they like them. They like to be protected.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Jill]

I can think of no less than three or four cases off the top of my head of stories that were released. And within a couple of days, the police department was like, actually, here's the video.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Jill]

Of what actually happened. I know they're trying to, you know, gin up these race riots again, but. No, this is. This is what happened.

[Josh Firestein]

It's a great. It's a great video, too, because the angle is a POV angle from the police officer. So you watch it as somebody who's from the outside. You watch it as if you are that person. You get to react. Like that lady in the hallway.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

With the knife. That was a big deal for weeks. Then that footage came Out. Everyone's like, ah, yeah, crazy black lady with pigtails coming at you with a knife.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Maybe the shooter repeatedly. It's like goldeneye with animalistic thugs.

[Jill]

Do the VR headset for the whole experience.

[Steven Crowder]

Like, was it first kid with Sinbad where they had the VR? And anyway, maybe it was a great finale. I love that film. I'm a Sinbad fan. Underrated. Love Sinbad podcast.

[Josh Firestein]

Sinbad rules, dude.

[Steven Crowder]

Ugh. I like his funny pants. Shut up. So, yes, I agree with you. We're saying the same thing. Leftist. Yeah, the footage is significant. Here's another reason. It's a big story. Yeah, I agree with you, Left number two reason. The racial component is notable. Now you say it's racist for us to recognize that. I say it's statistical reality. And this footage drives it home. Especially when you take into account, is there any kind of potential racial motivation. Let me just present a hypothetical scenario for you. If a white man killed a black woman on a bus, on a train, and said, I got that black broad. I got that black broadcast, do you think the media might think there's a racial component? We'll listen to the audio here. After Brown shot Zarutska and was bragging.

[Jill]

Stabbed.

[Steven Crowder]

Stab. Sorry, Brad. Sorry. Yeah, stabbed. Yeah. If you're a judge, does that factor in. Hey, what point is it a hate crime?

[Josh Firestein]

It would certainly be a hate crime if it was a white guy and a black lady and the white guy walked to the front of the bus and said, I got that Rosa Parks bitch.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, no, it's the. It's the ex commenters that are replying to Elon.

[Guest Commentator]

They're the racist.

[Steven Crowder]

Right. Although Rosa Parks would have been safe because she was at the back of the bus. She would have had a good view. Unless it's later Rosa Parks, in which case she could be vulnerable.

[Josh Firestein]

Different eras.

[Steven Crowder]

So there's pros and cons to everything.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Let me give you some. Some realities on murder. Okay, so white Americans, they make up about 58% of the population. They make up about. They commit 30% or so of the murders. Black Americans, they make up 12% of the population. They commit 44% of the murders. It's not even close. White people in this country are 12 times more likely to be killed by blacks than blacks, by whites. Where's the black on white roots? Where's the movie? Where's the one film today that shows that white people are being killed in record numbers in the United States at 12 times the rate? Do we have that? Also, we're talking about police stat, that went overlooked and now we kind of understand it. When you have the body cam footage, police are 18 and a half times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by an officer 18 and a half times. Remember we kept hearing a genocide? Okay, well where's the genocide? Would we say that the risk category, the risk class, police officers, we say the category that's 18 and a half times more likely to be murdered. They're more likely to be the victim of a genocide than the people who are 18 and a half. Less likely. 18 and a half times less likely. Why do we cease to apply logic? I'll tell you why. Because you have a bunch of people for a long time go racism. No, no, no, no. We're not going to do that. And by the way, of course, not all, not all, not all, not all, not all. We're not saying all black people. We're saying there's a statistical reality and it's emboldened by a soft on crime policy that has been built under the guise of righting prior racism. You know what the result is? Ask Zaruska. Ask Zaruska. And number three, you know what? Yes, we do agree. Brian Stelter, the reason this is a big story. I agree with your third point. It represents the crime riddled Democrat cesspools across this country. Just to give you an idea, because right now what they're trying to do in media and check the references, they're trying to gaslight you and say, whoa, crime actually is down. I don't know why the story is big when crime is down this quarter of a week or whatever it is that they're picking to try and tweak those numbers. From 2023 to 2024, murder went up 25%. That's the biggest increase since COVID Think about that. 25%. So if it decreases by 5% 24 to 25, it's still up 20. You guys do math. I'm not even good at it. It's a pretty simple round number, by the way. It's pretty hard to ignore a trend that out of the top 10 cities with the highest murder rates. So there's 10. Take the top 10. Like the worst murder rates. All 10, Democrat, mayor, all 10 are blue cities. 10 out of 10. That's a perfect score for murder. Perfect. Jesus. And then you look at the DA here in North Carolina. In this case, it's Spencer Meriwether. Instituted the first DEI office for an attorney's office. In the state of North Carolina. Also helped write the policy for conditions of a pretrial release, which, by the way, may be relevant here because. Well, let me read the words. Release the defendant on his or her written promise to appear. It's what I call the IOU policy. I know you used to think that if you commit a horrible crime and you're brought before a judge, you have to pay for that crime. Remember you used to say, like, crime doesn't pay. Yeah. Yeah. It turns out it actually kind of does. And you can just say, hey, I'm insane, so I can't be here for the trial. I would like to go back out to public. And they go, okay. Do you promise he'll come back? You're like, well, fucking. Yeah, like, okay, cool.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, you gotta write it down.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Jill]

Yeah, that's right. Unlike a sticky note or something.

[E. Jean Carroll]

My balls.

[Steven Crowder]

I can't read. Yeah, just. Just write it. Just look right down here. You'll come back. It's not gonna be like the last 12 times, is it? 13's the charm. Let's stop. We're being so myopic. Look, look, guys, let's look at the big picture here. 14 times. It shouldn't happen once. Shouldn't happen once. The IOU policy. Yeah, I'll come back to court. It shouldn't happen for speeding tickets.

[Josh Firestein]

I mean, technically, he did deliver on his promise.

[Jill]

He is back in court.

[Steven Crowder]

That's true. That's true. I appreciate that. You're looking at it glass half full. Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

I mean, you're criticizing this policy, but it's working.

[Steven Crowder]

It's working for them. And that's. Look, it comes down to what you do. You. Whatever works for you. This working for you, Charlotte. This working for you. Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit. And here's the worst part. So many of you morons will say, yes, I'm Detroit proud. You should be ashamed. Chicago is a great city. It sucks. Charlotte's a great place to. It could be a lot better. You screwed it up. You just don't want to acknowledge it. You don't want to acknowledge the truth. You don't want to acknowledge reality. Evil people exist. They will always exist. We cannot craft and enact policy predicated on this idea that, ah, if they just had some Xanax, if they just had some Prozac, someone would have listened to them a little bit more. No, we have to understand that some people are animals who cannot be rehabilitated. And now our concern is for the people who haven't violated the law protecting them. It's like it's the only legitimate role of government. And if we were to actually want to protect innocent Americans, innocent Americans in this country, we would be. I've already told you what we should do with the, with the judges. We would look at these stats and go, huh, okay, what do we do here if we want to save lives? If it saves one life, Obviously we're not going to look at banning guns because gun free zones and Chicago and these places. Okay, that doesn't really work. All right, is there any kind of a trend that we can look at here? Any tools before us that could help us save lives? Police, black areas, more? But you did the opposite of that. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it. You need to protect yourself. And by the way, the best way to protect yourself, especially if you're a woman, if you're disabled, you're an older person, you only have one shot. That means carry, carry a firearm. Learn to use it. Have one on your person at all times. And of course, keep one close at home with easy access but secure common sense. Right now you can get 15 off when you use promo code LWC at checkout. Head to stopboxusa.com LWC use the promo code LWC for 15% off your entire order. Not just some, all of it. That's right. Stop box. We use them here in the office. And oh, look. Oh, look, there's a nice, there's a nice gun in there. I won't play with it. It's probably loaded.

[Josh Firestein]

Thanks for pointing it my way.

[Jill]

That was me.

[Steven Crowder]

Don't do, don't do that because people out there are gonna take it seriously.

[Jill]

He pointed it at the CNN on tv. Don't worry, it's cnn.

[Steven Crowder]

You have no idea how awful gun people intense about to talk about your favorite subject.

[Jill]

I just saw his face.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, yeah, this just came up today. Lowest scores at least in 20 years, but likely ever in math and in reading. Let's see what they say.

[Guest Commentator]

Least basic. This is just partial, at least partial knowledge. We're not even talking about proficient here. And we're certainly not talking about advanced. We're just talking about at least basic. And let's start with reading. I mean, you know, you go back in 2013, it was 74%. 2015, 72%, 2019, 70%. Now we're talking 67%.

[Steven Crowder]

And so what I think is so.

[Guest Commentator]

Important to point out is a lot of people might say, oh, it was Covid. Covid is causing these declines. Yes, look, it might have Exacerbated the trend line. But this trend line of going downward dates back all the way to the middle of the last decade. Long before COVID actually.

[Steven Crowder]

So I guess that must mean that you guys don't have any of that funding for public school, right? That's the reason we must have stopped funding somewhere in the 80s.

[Guest Commentator]

Keep in mind that the proficient.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, they can't legally say it's the kids fault. Can't call kids dumb and they refuse to say it's the teachers of the administration's fault. So let's find out what the reason is.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, good point.

[Guest Commentator]

Advanced on this. So we're just talking at least basic. And this trend line, extremely troubling. Only two thirds. Only two thirds of.

[Steven Crowder]

Is it troubling or expected?

[Guest Commentator]

At least basic.

[Josh Firestein]

It would appear expected based on the sample we have here.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Jill]

Yes.

[Josh Firestein]

Down 2% in two years. Another 2 and 4.

[Guest Commentator]

Four scores are even lower. What are we talking about?

[Jill]

Oh no.

[Guest Commentator]

12Th graders.

[Jill]

We're not all Asians. Come on.

[Guest Commentator]

Basic again in the same way. Same trend line that we saw in reading. And again, this is just at least basic. 65%.

[Steven Crowder]

Now do homeschoolers, the ones that you made fun of as weird and socially awkward, but not as many of them think they're cats.

[Guest Commentator]

55%. The bottom has.

[Josh Firestein]

My daughter's in the top 10 percentile in reading and now I don't feel so good about that.

[Steven Crowder]

No. Hopefully they grade on a curve.

[Josh Firestein]

I'm still proud, but it's top 10 or what?

[Steven Crowder]

So let's do this again. Let's do this little exercise again. Okay, Just we're going CNN right now. And by the way, you can go to 3 and 3 where I laid out the department of education for you. If we were to look at this go. Okay, if the job of government or the job of a society, let's eliminate government as an organizational structure for a bit. Our job is to educate our children. All right, do we have any statistical data? Do we have any long term trend lines that are irrefutable that give us a good idea as to how effective we've been in educating our children? Two to three trillion dollars Department of Education. Wait a second. Standardized testing across the board tells us that the system has made people dumber. Let's just use that as a starting off point. How are you going to fix it now? They'll screech if Donald Trump says, you know, we need to scale it back, we need to change it, we need to give it back to the States. Okay, great. What's your solution? Because more money has been put into the Department of Education. Just more and more and more money, and we see the results are bad. So if you were to look at it, say, okay, we now see a decrease of 10 to 20 something percent in reading, mathematics, depending on what category we're using. How do we craft a solution? Well, seemingly the most funded and controlling aspect of children's education in this country is the Department of Education. Right. I know, I'm infantilizing you. It's by design. Therefore, seems our primary problem would be with the Department of Education. But then the left again. What do they want to do if you say, hey, we need to change it, we need to defund it, we need to. Racism. What? Poor kids can't go to private? I'm not saying that. What about other options? What about charter schools? What about homeschooling? Well, they don't have families that can do that. Okay, I guess let's just keep dumping trillions of dollars into the current system then.

[Jill]

No, blow it up.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, how do we solve crime? Disbar judges. Where do we see most crime? Black neighborhoods, by the way. Black victims, of course, overwhelmingly. But white people, many, many, many times. 12 times more likely to be killed by black. Okay, we look at that. Hey, how do we start solving it? All right, let's focus most of our crime efforts in the communities where there's the most amount of crime. Black communities. It's not even close. Oh, okay. Let's use this logical, this rational part of our brain. Almost like that's supposed to be the basis of civilized society and Western civilization. Ah, Department of Education. Education. Worse. Who controls education that is now worse? Department of Education. Oh, maybe that's what we should fix. Maybe it shouldn't exist. But in both cases, if you're going to be honest. Racism. Racism. Racism. Do you hate. Let me ask you this. Do you hate black people? If the answer is no, don't be concerned about someone calling you racist. Do you believe that black people are inherently inferior? If the answer is no, like most everyone I know, there are some racists, but everyone in this room would answer no, then who cares if they say you're racist? Do you believe black people are inferior? Do you hate them? If no to both, then don't feel guilty about looking at actual crime statistics. It would be racist to not. You guys understand that. And you know who would agree? Every single law abiding black American in this country who is tired of their community's shit. I bet you you'd have a lot More in common with them than Brian Stelter or Wolf Blitzer.

[Jill]

Yeah, they want better options for their kids. They want better options for their kids, too.

[Steven Crowder]

You'd think so.

[Jill]

They do.

[Steven Crowder]

You'd think they do. But we're told they don't buy white guys in media. Oh, and white women, well, it's. It's.

[Jill]

It's usually the white women at the teacher's union.

[Steven Crowder]

Speaking of very white and very gay.

[Josh Firestein]

Hey, don't talk about me like that.

[Jill]

Wait, wait, we.

[Steven Crowder]

Shut up. That's what I thought you were talking about. All right, okay, stop. Okay, we'll do it later, but stop for right now. Remember, I told you, with the very fine people on both sides or the fight. Like hell I said. I call it the 30 second rule. Extend the clip, 30 seconds on either side, and you will see that the media is lying to you. Well, we have another installment of that. This one comes to us courtesy of the Bulwark and the Brian Boitano look alike over there. Tim Miller, who's gay and at some point was a Republican, I guess, posted this clip of Donald Trump talking about the success in D.C. as far as the federal government handling crime. And they want your takeaway, and it worked with the left. They want your takeaway to be Donald Trump supports beating women.

[Donald Trump]

There's no crime. They said, crime's down 87%. I said, no, no, no. It's more than 87%. Virtually nothing. And much lesser things. Things that take place in the home, they call crime, you know, they'll do anything they can to find something. If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say this was a crime. See? So now I can't claim 100%.

[Steven Crowder]

And this just went viral all over Twitter with people responding. I can't believe he supports that. The caption that they included at the Bulwark, it was Trump. Things that take place in the home they call a crime. If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say this is a crime. Okay, well, even though it's not necessary, because, look, let's just be honest. That's what you describe an argument like, had a little bit of a fight with the Mrs. Last night. Right. I think we kind of all know that. But let's extend the clip a little bit so you see the context.

[Donald Trump]

They said, crime's down 87%. I said, no, no, no. It's more than 87%. Virtually nothing. And much lesser things. Things that take place in the home, they call crime, you know, they'll do anything they can to find something. If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say this was a crime. See. So now I can't claim 100%, but we are, we are a safe city. You can walk to a restaurant, you can walk to the White House, if you work there, you can walk to the Capitol. And even the Democrats say, I can't believe it, but they don't want to admit it, but I can't believe it.

[Steven Crowder]

So the context is. So I can't say 100%. And then he continues with the context. But you as a civilian, a law abiding citizen, you can walk down the streets and be safer. Meaning a domestic spat, which doesn't even necessarily mean a crime or abuse doesn't affect your personal safety. What affects most people in D.C. that they were really most concerned about is being a hapless victim to a marauder. Right. And that's not the same as a domestic argument. Let me just put it this way. If you interpret that a little fight.

[Donald Trump]

With the wife, so I can't say 100%, they call that a crime.

[Steven Crowder]

If you take that as Donald Trump endorsing or supporting physical spousal abuse, you are either being dishonest or you're mentally ill. And both are possibilities. Which brings us to Reddit retards. And by the way, I'm not just saying that's not hyperbole. You are either being dishonest or you're mentally ill. That is my opinion. Let me read you some comments on Reddit from invalid password. This man convicted of felony assault against women is now declaring crimes at home by a man against a woman shouldn't be counted as a crime. That man is a royal piece of shit. Clearly she's retarded. Yeah. Also, President Trump was never convicted of assaulting anyone, just to be clear. Very true. Yeah. Civil. And we'll get to. By the way, we have a bonus of E. Jean Carroll, the insane lady. This one comes from Zoo Fat Zufagus Trump. Trump raped the mother of three of his children. He pulled her hair so violently during the rape that he pulled out handfuls of her hair. Of course he's okay with violence against women because that's what that clip. He's a rapist. They're retarded. If a man, they have a little.

[Donald Trump]

He has a little fight with his wife, they said that's a.

[Steven Crowder]

So I can't say 100% crime free. Yes. He's saying that men should rape women. This comes from academic business. Dash 45 Women of the USA, get ready to wear a hibab. I think the main hijab or kebab. Get ready to wear a hi bab before Trump's term is up. Yeah, because you know, it's true. Donald Trump's the one who wants to mass import Third World Islamists so they.

[Josh Firestein]

Can open up he Bobs kebabs.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes. Oh, my God, I want to open up. It'd be cultural appropriation.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah. I can do it though.

[Steven Crowder]

You want to do a fruit kebab? Oh, oh, yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, I know you're talking about, but I've never done it.

[Steven Crowder]

I do it for the little ones. They get very excited. This is watermelon. Pineapple.

[Josh Firestein]

You grill it?

[Steven Crowder]

Mango. No, I don't grill it. Oh, it's not.

[Jill]

What's the matter?

[Steven Crowder]

Too much?

[Josh Firestein]

Just fruit on a stick.

[Steven Crowder]

Exactly. That's a kebab. It's a kebab.

[Jill]

No, it's freaking fruit that you put on a stick needlessly.

[Steven Crowder]

Nah, you know what? Tomato, tomato, stranger son wrote. Remember, ladies, you have Second amendment rights too. What? You. No, you're not ugly, you're just retarded. Can it be both? I mean, I don't disagree. You do have Second Amendment rights. Unfortunately, not really. In D.C. you're advising breaking the law.

[Josh Firestein]

That's right. I forgot about that.

[Steven Crowder]

This comes from Luke C. Sucker. I'll say. Is a screen name suck. Yeah. He just wants to say crime is going down. What's a few beaten wives? It's to make him look good after all. Remember during COVID when they wanted to kill your grandparents to save the economy? But I'm retarded. Yeah. Who was it? Who was it who kept people quarantined in old folks homes where their own relatives couldn't go and visit them as they died alone? That's Cuomo. But then who was it who put young COVID patients into old folks homes? That's right. It was Whitmer who advocated against it. Who filed FOIA requests? Oh, that's right, we did. And I believe members of the Trump administration, the previous administration had done that. So who wanted to kill grandparents? Not who wanted to. Who actually killed grandparents?

[Jill]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

It's not about who wanted, who did it. Also, they imply there that any fight between a man and a wife is obviously a man beating a woman.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Josh Firestein]

It couldn't possibly be a man yelling at a woman to stop hitting him and throwing things at him.

[Steven Crowder]

Right? Yeah. It couldn't possibly be that women are actually more likely to commit domestic violence against men. It just goes unreported. Or it couldn't possibly be two loud French Canadians, I don't speak from experience, who were simply speaking so loudly at a family gathering that the cops were called because they were certain that someone was being murdered. Gradients wrote reminder that Donald trump tied a 13 year old girl to a bed, smacked her across the face and brutally raped her. Everybody knows you never go full retard. I don't even know how this is really like a thing. I think this person pulled something that was written about online, something from an Epstein thing it seems. Here's the thing, I haven't spent a lot of time researching this. I'm not going to lie to you. The reason why I haven't is because it is my firm belief that if President Trump had tied a 13 year old girl to a bed and raped her brutally, that we'd know about it. Cuz we knew about a bank loan that was paid back.

[Jill]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

And both people were happy. And he still got trumped up charges and he was the only one ever. So I don't know if you noticed, there have been plenty of people who, if they have ever raped a 13 year old, you know, obviously it's an awful crime. They were tried, they were convicted. So it seems to me that if Donald trump tied a 13 year old girl to a bed, smacked her across the face and brutally raped her, we would know about it. Therefore I haven't given it any more credence or done any more research. Let me prove to you how we would know about it because Donald Trump didn't touch the crazy cat lady who named her pet vagina Vagina and still had to deal with it publicly Anyway, which brings us back to the Bulwark E. Jean Carroll. Remember her? Picture her in your head, okay, because this is gonna be fun for you. She was on the Bulwark podcast where she explained the trick that they pulled to make herself believable as someone who would be desirable enough to rape. This interview, actually it's real life.

[Jill]

But then you're like, well, I gotta.

[Steven Crowder]

Be hotter to win this case.

[E. Jean Carroll]

Yeah, yeah, I gotta be able is the word.

[Steven Crowder]

So what we did, mission failed, is we looked.

[E. Jean Carroll]

I had a Talk Show, a TV talk show in 1996. I went through that. Some of the shows took screenshots of my hair cut in a bob, not a good look. Then I found the hairdresser and the makeup person who.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, you went out of your way to do this.

[E. Jean Carroll]

1996. She came every day to trial, did my hair and makeup exactly like it was in 1990. And I looked like somebody who could have looked like somebody in 96. And it was enough. It was enough.

[Steven Crowder]

It wasn't and you didn't. But I guess it's. I guess it's better than the alternative because she did try and show up one time without makeup. All right, okay. She has a point. She has a point. That's better.

[Josh Firestein]

Yikes.

[Steven Crowder]

That was.

[Josh Firestein]

What did she think that was? Did anybody watch that footage of the trial and go, wow, hot. Yeah, it's a bad look in 96. It's a bad look 30 years later.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly.

[Josh Firestein]

There's no look 30 years ago. You're like, ah, that's how I want to look.

[Steven Crowder]

Right. It's kind of like if you have a cigar, that's a good cigar, and you age, it'll be better. But you can't age. A bad cigar and it'd be anything other than bad.

[Jill]

Why not?

[Steven Crowder]

She's a bad cigar.

[Jill]

Yeah, I'm not gonna cigar for a while.

[Josh Firestein]

I'm not gonna show up, up to my, you know, my wedding anniversary with a bowl cut and overalls.

[Steven Crowder]

Also, she accused, like, was it 20 guys of rape in her book? I don't.

[Josh Firestein]

It's a lot.

[Steven Crowder]

She's an insane person.

[Josh Firestein]

It's an alarm. She accused more people having sex with her than I've imagined. Having sex with people?

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, exactly.

[Jill]

That's impossible, Josh.

[Steven Crowder]

That is a crazy person. And the same thing about Elizabeth Warren. And again, you know it. You know it. When you see it. You, oh, this lady's insane. Same thing with Elizabeth Warren. You go, oh, that's like the crazy aunt who's nosy and bothers everybody. But you can't say it publicly because they'll either say racism or in this case, sexism. I don't know if you know this, but there are plenty of guys who I say go, that guy's nuts. That's not sexist. No, there are plenty of women who are nuts, too. I would argue more when you look at the SSRI use, when you look at the personality disorder statistics, but I don't want to be sexist.

[Jill]

Don't do it.

[Josh Firestein]

I think guys are just better at hiding it. Maybe if I'm quiet, no one will know.

[Steven Crowder]

Struggle in silence.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, they don't have that gift.

[Jill]

What I want to say, I feel like Donald Trump is playing, like, 8 or 9d chess here, because right now he's basically just made the argument. Just follow me. Right? So crime is really bad in these cities. So therefore, I'm going to send in help right. Especially in D.C. started there and had such fantastic success that now, so that he doesn't get credit for it, the Democrats are actually saying, no, no, no, no, no, crime is up in the cities.

[Steven Crowder]

Initially they were arguing, no, no, no.

[Jill]

Crime is up, up in cities. It's fine, we don't need any National Guard. Now they're like, oh, no, crime is up in the cities. And he's like, fantastic, I can send National Guard everywhere.

[Steven Crowder]

Right?

[Jill]

We can handle this problem for you. Or they're just arguing for more crime. Whatever crime rate we have right now, it's fine. It's going down a point a year when it's actually not. He is putting them on the wrong side of every single issue, every single one. Only because they hate him. That's it. He knows they're gonna go the opposite direction.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I think that's a very good point also. That brings us to the next story, which, by the way, if you are not a Rumble Premium member, Mug Club is Rumble Premium. Rumble Premium is Mug Club. You can just click that button right down there and join. $99 for the year. If you want this wonderful hand etched mug, you get 100% more show. You get a Friday show and you get everything ad free along with all of the other content creators. And none of this exists. By the way, we'll be doing a Rumble Premium gift a thon tomorrow as we've been doing in the past. Thank you for that. Let me ask you this. And I get it. Look, slavery was bad Hitler. I'm not a fan. Also, just to be clear, I want you to go because I know that some of you are with me. And then I'm going to lose you. So since I'm telling you this right now, I just want you to give me a little bit of grace. All right, Let me know if you agree with this first part. Slavery, bad. Systemic discrimination which has taken place across the world, and certainly it happened here in the United States. Terrible. But right now, at this moment in time, do you believe, because this has been the case, do you believe that the group, the class of people in this country who are 12 times more likely to kill members of another race, who are many fold more likely to commit violent crimes, do you believe that our policies on violent criminality should be dictated by that class of people, Black people, in other words, we've designed the cashless bail. They say you're racist, but it was predicated on the idea that black people don't have money. The idea of catch and release. Well, they say you're racist, but it was based on the idea that there's mass incarceration of black men. All these policies that we have that have led us to where we are, do you believe that we should design laws around that community or that they should be the ones largely dictating to the rest of society, 12% of the population? Even less if you're largely looking at exclusively black males. Do you believe that it has been a good approach for that class of people to dictate policy as it relates to crime? I'm willing to bet your answer is no. Okay, this brings us to the next poll from NBC. Gen Z women versus Gen Z men, separated by voting patterns, voting for Kamala, liberal. Voting for Trump, more conservative. And all this ties into divorce laws, all this ties into dating, all of this ties into gender dynamics and expectations. Do you believe that the group of people who are more likely to abandon their family, more likely to abuse their children, more likely to pursue personal happiness and worldly pleasures above the divine, above raising and imparting wisdom and moral fiber to their family, do you believe that that class of people should be dictating marriage policy? You probably answer no. Then we got to take the reins away from women because that's what we've been doing for a really long time. And this is an eye opening poll where you may see some surprises. It's not just liberal women versus Gen Z conservative men. It's a spoiler alert. I'm foreshadowing a little bit, but Gen Z men and women across the board define success very differently. Who do you think is right? A new report shows Gen Z is showing a sharp gender divide on politics, marriage and children. Let's connect the dots. The NBC News poll shows Gen Z women lean more liberal while Gen Z men lean more conservative.