Canada Weeps and Mexico Burns - A Very Bad Day For the Anti-American Propagandists

Summary

Louder with Crowder Episode Summary

Podcast: Louder with Crowder
Episode: Canada Weeps and Mexico Burns - A Very Bad Day For the Anti-American Propagandists
Date: February 23, 2026
Host: Steven Crowder
Guest: Warren Smith

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Steven Crowder takes a satirical and confrontational look at two major topics: the American Olympic hockey victory over Canada and the escalating cartel violence in Mexico. Tying both stories into the broader theme of "anti-American propagandists" suffering bad days, Crowder employs humor, mockery, and political commentary. He is later joined by guest Warren Smith, whose academic background and experience with cancel culture provide a thoughtful second half to the episode. The show weaves together criticism of leftist narratives, a celebration of team USA, and concerns over America’s neighbors, all in Crowder’s trademark provocative style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Canada’s Olympic Hockey Loss (Beginning – 35:00)

• Crowder celebrates Team USA’s victory over Canada in Olympic hockey, framing it as a symbolically important moment for both countries and comparing its significance to the 1980 "Miracle on Ice."
• Mockery of Canadian responses to losing:
  • Canadian reactions include claims that “silver shines just as bright” and “it’s not about winning,” which Crowder ridicules as coping mechanisms.
  • He points out Canadians booed the US national anthem, then claimed offense at American memes celebrating their victory—calling this a double standard.
  • Quote: “They boo the national anthem. Okay, we beat them. We post a meme of an eagle stomping on a goose, and that is considered a violation of international law.” (13:57)
• Critique of Canadian and general international hypocrisy:
  • Crowder draws parallels between hockey, trade (tariffs), NATO, and border issues, alleging that Canada and other countries impose unfair standards and resent the US when Americans fight back.
  • Quote: “Canada complaining. Canada changing the game or changing the terms...and they vilify us.” (32:19)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “It is fun to see Canadians lose at the only thing they have.” (Steven Crowder, 06:12)
• “This went into overtime and you were beaten. That's pretty definitive.” (Steven Crowder, 20:58)
• “Silver shines just as bright.” — Canadian women's hockey team post; Crowder: “No, it doesn’t really. That’s the thing. It doesn’t shine just as bright at all.” (18:57)
• “We waved the flag and that's a problem... Canada is not a good friend.” (Steven Crowder, 28:52)

Timestamps

• 02:10 – Overview of Canada’s loss and hockey’s national significance
• 13:57 – Comparing hockey and trade double standards
• 18:55 – Mocking Canadian coping after defeat
• 24:55 – “Round one, round two…”: breakdown of the meme wars
• 28:48 – American hockey player's pride and nationalism

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2. Political Pandering and Racial Stereotyping (09:00 – 13:30)

• Satirical critiques of Democratic politicians (Gavin Newsom, Biden, Hillary Clinton) for what Crowder calls "pandering" to black Americans with condescending or stereotypical remarks.
• Contrast between right-wing and left-wing approaches:
  • Crowder argues conservatives make jokes, while the left’s pandering “is what they really think.”
  • Quote: “I would never insult your intelligence. I would never pander to you. Because I'm cool dick. Like Hennessy on the rocks at my baby mom's house.” (12:50)

Timestamps

• 09:21 – Examples of Democratic pandering
• 12:31 – Hillary’s “hot sauce” incident mocked

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3. Mexico: Cartel Violence and US Security (35:00 – 48:30)

• Cartel violence surges after US designation of cartels as terrorist organizations:
  • Discussion of recent violence following Mexican security forces killing CJNG cartel leader "El Mencho."
  • Crowder explains cartel operations, the US sharing intelligence, and the overwhelming power cartels have over the Mexican state.
  • Quote: “These cartels are a major threat to the United States. … If you legalized all drugs tomorrow, they would still exist. They would just do something else.” (42:33)
• Critique of left/libertarian resistance to 'terrorist' designation:
  • Crowder rebukes New York Times, Cato, and Brennan Center articles that warn against challenging the cartels too aggressively or labeling them terrorists, suggesting this attitude ignores the real threat to the United States.
  • Quote: “At what point do we say these people are just anti American across the board?” (46:27)
• American flag-waving at the Olympics as a divisive act:
  • Crowder links pride in American sports victories with a broader lack of societal cohesion, lamenting those on the left who see such displays as exclusionary or jingoistic.
  • Quote: “If waving the American flag or chanting USA turns you off right now, that should be an official question in the census that leads to immediate deportation.” (25:17)

Timestamps

• 40:35 – Mexico erupts after El Mencho’s killing
• 42:33 – Breakdown of cartel threat and stats
• 46:27 – Reaction to left-leaning media on cartel policy

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4. Canada-Mexico Relationship, Tourism, and Moral Hypocrisy (48:30 – 57:00)

• Canada’s response to Mexico is virtue signaling gone wrong:
  • Canadians increase tourism to Mexico, perceiving it as safer or more desirable than the US, even as cartel violence explodes. Crowder calls this naive and reckless.
  • Quote: “Canadians support the government of Mexico in bed with the cartels while they virtue signal. And those people will never enjoy basic freedoms.” (54:30)
• Canada’s moral relativism criticized:
  • Crowder claims Canada lacks an objective standard of right/wrong, is jealous of the US, and does things "just to bother America."
  • Comparison to Canadian support for Cuba as a case of supporting oppressive regimes through tourism.
  • Calls for Alberta to separate and for US-Canada relations to end.

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5. In-Depth Interview with Warren Smith (58:00 – End)

• Background: Warren Smith gained attention after being fired for a classroom discussion of J.K. Rowling’s views on sex and gender. He now teaches content creation online.
• Academic Cancel Culture and Critique of Modern Academia:
  • Smith recounts the backlash he faced, the pusillanimity of university administrators, and the silencing of dissent.
  • Socratic method versus debate bro culture: Smith emphasizes teaching and promoting open discussion over “winning” arguments.
  • Quote: “None of us know as much as we think we know. But it’s not a reason not to strive for knowing.” (63:07)
• Reforming Higher Education:
  • Smith calls for abolishing tenure, more merit-based systems, embracing transparency and live-streamed classes.
  • Crowder and Smith connect narratives in film and media with the logic of critical debate and persuasion.
• Notable exchange:
  • Crowder: “If you were handed the keys to a major university, what would be one of the first policies you would either instate or abolish to fix the imbalance?”
  • Smith: “I would get rid of tenure first … make it merit-based, performance-based.”
• Debate/teaching approach:
  • Smith: “Show, don’t tell. You gotta show them why—can’t just tell you you’re wrong.” (68:00)

Timestamps

• 58:20 – Viral J.K. Rowling classroom video
• 60:53 – School backlash and transition to online teaching
• 63:07 – Socratic method in debates
• 69:10 – Recommendations for university reform

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Canadian hockey loss:
  “It'd be like if Gordon Ramsay woke up tomorrow, like, ‘I can't fucking cook.’ He's getting beat by a Waffle House chef.” (06:27)
• On national pride:
  “If waving the American flag or chanting USA turns you off right now, that should be an official question in the census that leads to immediate deportation.” (25:17)
• On American team mentality:
  Jack Hughes (USA Hockey): “I love the USA. I love my teammates. It’s unbelievable… That was as classy, to use the term of these angry sore losers from Canada, as you could possibly be.” (28:48)
• On left-wing critiques of US anti-cartel measures:
  “At what point do we say these people are just anti American across the board?” (46:27)
• On teaching/debate:
  Warren Smith: “Show, don’t tell. You gotta show them why—can’t just tell you you’re wrong.” (68:00)

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Important Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|------------------| | Canada/USA Olympic hockey conflict | 02:10 – 35:00 | | Mockery of democratic pandering | 09:00 – 13:30 | | Double standards: Hockey, tariffs, NATO | 13:57 – 32:00 | | American patriotism as divisive | 25:17 – 28:52 | | Mexico cartel violence and US security | 35:00 – 48:30 | | Canadian tourism + moral critique | 48:30 – 57:00 | | Interview with Warren Smith | 58:00 – end |

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Summary

This episode is a blend of biting comedy, nationalist political commentary, and genuine concern about America’s ties to its neighbors. Crowder seizes on Canada’s hockey defeat to lampoon both Canadian pride and perceived anti-American sentiment at home and abroad. He uses the lens of sports, trade, and geopolitics to make a broader argument about double standards, resentment, and the dangers of leftist ideology. The Mexico segment expands on the threat of cartels and criticizes left/libertarian reluctance to confront them.

The show shifts with guest Warren Smith into a more reflective mode about the state of higher education, cancel culture, and debate. Smith and Crowder agree on the need for open inquiry, transparency, and the value of an objective pursuit of truth, with Smith providing practical ideas for university reform.

Throughout, the episode maintains Crowder’s irreverent, combative, and highly animated style, making for a provocative (if polarizing) listening experience.

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Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

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[Warren Smith]

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[Steven Crowder]

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[Steven Crowder]

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[Steven Crowder]

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[Warren Smith]

What?

[Steven Crowder]

We're getting to Canada. How do you like. How do you like them apples? A lot of apples come from Canada. Fun fact. Look, and I know you're going to Say, hey, that's classless. Bingo. So I don't care. And I think that that's it. I think we're going to look back on this and say this. This may have been as consequential or close to as consequential as the miracle on Ice against the Russians, the United States, Canada. Our relationship dynamics need to change. I think they will. And this is really Canada. I'm sorry it's all you had left. Alberta notwithstanding, we love you. The rest of you, maybe parts of Saskatchewan. You're awful. You're just the pits. You're the worst Canada, and you deserve. I hope this reverberates through your soul and you feel it for the rest of your days. And by the way, I fully accept that we'll probably lose against you in the future because it's the only thing you have and you're gonna work extra hard. So we're gonna talk about Canada. Thank you. The sort of geopolitical dynamics of that game. Mexico, drug cartels, designated terrorist organizations, people through a fit. Now you know why they can destabilize entire countries. Thank God, we did it. Very special guest, Warren Smith will be on later. I think probably him and I share the closest rhetorical style in approaching sort of debates because it's not so much a debate. Very popular online. I've been watching him. Very, very sharp guy. Looking forward to having him on. And my question to you is, which part of Canada is the crappiest? Don't say all of it. We'll take your chat later on. On with the show. And the cat was happily reunited with its family, but the giraffe still remains at large. Now a word from our sponsors. You know, I'm finally getting my life on track. Oh, that's nice. Hey, can I get some water in here, please? Yeah. I called American financing. Oh, good for you. That's great. Yeah, it's true what they say. 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Tuesday, February 24, 18:30pm Eastern. Chorus line. That's right, Billy. That's right. By the way, I look at my notes sometimes I look at notes from last week. This just says looking at her interracial white slash black question mark. I don't know what I was thinking or what I. I don't know what I meant. Sometimes we just leave notes for you there to mess with you. Yeah, that's exactly. Oh, that's why there's a wiener. You should stop looking at her, though. And it's weird that there's a wiener. It says Gerald. And then there's a disappointed emoji that someone took what, the time. That's not true. To make disappointment. Trust me. We got a clip along because Warren Smith is coming on. Sorry about the technical difficulties that we had. So I don't want him. I don't want him to have to wait around. He's a professor. He's an important gentleman. Captain Morgan, CEO, how are you? Fantastic. All smiles. Fantastics. Fantastic. All smiles. I just. I went right into it. That's okay. That's okay. I still love you. Friday, Saturday March 20th, 21st, Summit City Comedy Club in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Which is, by the way, it's, it's. I mean, it's in the cards. It's due for. It's due for a resurgence. Fort Wayne, Indiana. Indiana, yes. We'll be talking about your, your new NFL team. The Chicago Bears. That's right. Yes. Yes. The Indiana. The Chicago Bears of Indiana. Is that a real thing? It's. Yeah, something like that. It's. It's in the works. We need to do a Steven. No sports, because I haven't been following us for a long time. But it is fun to see Canadians lose at the only thing they have. Oh, it was eat only thing. That's the only reason why it's so fun. Yeah. Because it's there. You're supposed to win, dude. Yeah, that's the thing. Out of all the things we expect you to win, it's your thing. We don't feel bad when we get silver. We're like, hey, we're second best at this Canadian game. It'd be like, that's pretty cool. It'd be like if Gordon Ramsay woke up tomorrow, like, I can't fucking cook. He's getting beat by a waffle house chef. He just gets world starred. And of his three star restaurants. All right, I don't know what. How many stars is a good star? Three is. The three is amazing. Well, see, I nailed it. Still got it. Gavin Newsome is a pandering butthole. He wants you to know that he's black just like you. Because he's dumb. I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to impress you. I'm just trying to impress upon you. I'm like you. I'm better than you. You know, I'm a 960 SAT guy, just like you. And you know, and I'm not trying to offend anyone.

[Warren Smith]

You know, trying to act all there

[Steven Crowder]

if you got 940, but literally a 960sat guy. I cannot. You. You've never seen me read a speech. Because I cannot read a speech. Maybe the wrong business to be in.

[Warren Smith]

Agreed.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I can't read what I can't read and I did poorly on my SATs. Fellow blacks, just like you. Just in case, like, this is a thing where people say, oh, well, we will tell some jokes, go through some bits that are undoubtedly probably more offensive than that on paper. But in spirit, that tells you what he thinks of you. Right. When people ask where does the racism actually exist? On the right or the left? Left. Comment Below, you get it right? We make jokes, they make statements. Yes. Yeah. He really means it. By the way. This is not unique to Gavin Newsom, just a refresher. He is joining a long line of Democrats who pander to black people by also letting you know that they're not super capable. We have this notion that somehow if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids. Oh, my God. If you have a problem, whether you're for me or Trump and you ain't black, I'm proud to be a bartender. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Ain't nothing wrong with working retail, folding

[Warren Smith]

clothes for other people to buy. That's right.

[Steven Crowder]

There is nothing wrong with preparing the food that your neighbors will eat. Oh, Lord, you need that food. I feel no ways tired. I come too far from where I started from. Plus, you got a fat ass, too. Told me that the road would be easy. I'm just like you My husband cheat. How fun would it be to just stiff arm, hold her head down so she can't get up? My mom was 19, pregnant and divorced

[Warren Smith]

a few years later with two kids

[Steven Crowder]

for no money and just hustled. Worked hard, grinding every single day. We are preparing collard for what? For Thanksgiving dinner. I was 960 or 980 on my SAT, and that was cool. Like, my mom's like, it's okay. It's okay to be average. And it's not an indictment, but I've

[Warren Smith]

got four kids, all in club sports.

[Steven Crowder]

And how that's become damn professional. Pretty penny.

[Warren Smith]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Right now we have, you know, you

[Warren Smith]

rich, young black kids growing up in

[Steven Crowder]

the Bronx who don't even know what

[Warren Smith]

the word a computer is.

[Steven Crowder]

They don't know. They don't. The sign language lady has to do it. Black men are being killed in the street. What is democracy? Betrayal of broken promises. Still leave black communities behind. What does it mean, as we've heard before, to be a black man who loves his country, even if it doesn't love him back in equal measure? What's something that you always carry with you?

[Warren Smith]

Hot sauce.

[Steven Crowder]

Really? You know, people are gonna see this and say, okay, she's pandering to black people. Okay. Is it working? No. They should have been like, pull it out right now. Yeah, pull it out right. Pull out that hot sauce. What do you got? Tapatio.

[Warren Smith]

Frank's.

[Steven Crowder]

Louisiana. What you working with? Yeah, she's not working with anything. Look, I don't even know Frank. I will tell you that this Is what the left does. And this is why I would never insult your intelligence. I would never pander to you. Because I'm cool dick. Like Hennessy on the rocks at my baby mom's house. I. I wouldn't do it. No, I wouldn't pander. I would never do that because I keep it real, fam. As you know by my new mixtape or things of that nature that you have also checked out. It's just offensive. It's unnecessary. Also inappropriate. Ah. As well. Didn't do nothing, you know. Let's go to.

[Warren Smith]

Canada.

[Steven Crowder]

What was your sat score? I had a demographic shift. The Canadian meltdown over the Olympics. We're going to get into the meltdown from Canada. Okay. The double standards and our relationship with Canada, okay, this is. It's emblematic of our relationship with the world. They will set terms to the game. They will try and implement rules. We accept, we oblige. And then they bitch about it. They will end zone dance. They will globe. This is Canada. This is a lot of Europe. You can compare this to NATO. You can compare this to tariffs. For example, let me encapsulate it. They boo the national anthem. Okay, we beat them. We post a meme of an eagle stomping on a goose, and that is considered a violation of international law. Apply it to tariffs. They'll apply a tariff on American dairy to the tune of several hundred percent. We turn around and say, okay, we're going to protect our own industries. And then they cry foul. That's why this matters. Well, they cried foul, but it was a picture of foul.

[Warren Smith]

Stop it.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, I get it. They have a point. I don't like it, but I like it. So one year ago, after Canada did defeat the United States, also, do you realize that we accept the terms of it where we go, like, okay, you know, it's their thing. They won fair game. They should be good at it. We were bummed out. Sure, sure. But, you know, but we didn't say second is the best. We should have really won. We actually won. First is the worst. We didn't do that. So this was about a year ago, I think, after Canada beat the United States. It was at the four nations game. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau wrote this. Sorry, right clip. Always right clip. It's not going away. He wrote, you can't take our country and you can't take our game. Well, one out of two is okay. So, yeah, you know this. The United states defeated Canada 2 to 1 in overtime. And you may not notice if you are the byproduct of public education or other things of that such nature. But two, motherfucker, is that many. So it's time for no Canada. No Canada. You. Marley was dead to begin with. Let's set the stage before we go through all of these different dynamics. References available links in the description, as we do every show. It goes without saying Canada, a failed nation, a conquered people, didn't take the loss very well. Yes. No. King. See Jean King. What's he saying? No, I can't hear him. But he's French Canadian, so he's belligerent. They could become political. So I'm just a little on edge right now. He's got a nose like a dog's wiener. You, buddy. This guy's so pissed. Look at this. They give. They give the losers teddy bears. Look at him. He's like, what? Nathan McKinnon? Hilarious. Yes. All right. This guy's pretty cool, actually. Watch your fingers, by the way. The other guy, the other person I think in. They're trying to reason with him, like as to why that's not a good idea. He's like, hey, don't do that. You'll the color gamut. So let's go through the phase that's my TV. Before we get to acceptance. That's my 50 inch. That's it. That's right. That's cost a lot in Canada currency. You know about the Fiat and things like that. I love how they're talking to Doug Ford right now about this. You guys watch it out there. We'll see what there is. I just think it's hilarious. Let's go through the different phases. First off is, you know, they. They try to convince themselves Canada as opposed to accepting the terms that lose. Remember, this is now the men beat the men and the women beat the Canadian women. You remember after the Canadian female team lost or women's team, I don't know if they allow men to compete. They posted. They posted this on X. They wrote, silver shines just as bright.

[Warren Smith]

What?

[Steven Crowder]

No, it doesn't really. That's the thing. It doesn't shine just as bright at all. It's not even close color. It's a reflective metal, I've heard. But that's not shining.

[Warren Smith]

That's reflecting.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's this one. There's a story this was posted on X. Said the checkout clerk at the grocery store just asked me how the hockey game went. When I told her we lost in overtime, she said, overtime. Then our boys played a good game. I love Canada so much. I love Canada so much. And then I was like, yo, I'm just here to buy cigarettes and abandon my family. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to be back. I'm coming back. I'm not gonna be coming back. Then there's this flat out lie. Dear fellow Canadians, as you know, it's never about who wins. Never. Sometimes it is, though. In all sports, sometimes it is. In the Olympics it is. And in hockey, it is in everything. It's about how you carry yourself in tough moments. Are you a gracious winner? Are you a gracious loser? Those are the only things people remember. Hey, anyone remember how the Russians reacted to the Miracle on ice in 1980? And I was like, ah, that Sakharov guy, he really ornery. No, people kind of remember, yeah, the winners. And I get it, you want to be a good sport. But let's not say winning never matters. Let's dust ourselves off and show the world what being Canadian is all about. Losing. Well, yes, he. Him and his profile there. So, you know, then the captain, Nathan McKinnon, wrote this. He said, you be the judge of who was the better team today. We were. The scoreboard was. Yeah, it's not figure skating. This is not a judged event. No. Sometimes you'll get this, like in a fight where, let's say a guy is dominating and he. A cut opens up and so he loses because they can't allow it to go on, and then he immediately wins the rematch. This is not that. This went into overtime and you were beaten. That's pretty definitive. That's about as definitive as it gets at that point.

[Warren Smith]

But they got off and missed more shots.

[Steven Crowder]

That's right.

[Warren Smith]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

So made the ones that counted this guy also Canadians, just listen to the cope. Honestly, if you're an American celebrating that win, you're a casual who doesn't know Puck. That is true. Totally fine. Grow the game. What the hell is that? I don't know, Puck. Yeah, but I know we won. Yeah, you loser. Here's the thing. I don't even need to know. I don't know that much about biology or geography or grammar.

[Warren Smith]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

But I do. You only need to know L and W. Yeah, and that one's pretty definitive here. And then you have them. Of course, the cope then goes to. As classy as they are crapping on the United States. So here's a post that was referring to. The White House made a post showing a bald eagle on top of a Canadian goose, which was awesome. And so a guy responded saying, the guy who tweeted this is a rapist and a pedophile governing a country chock full of rapists and pedophiles. So Canada still won. Well, let's even go with your premise. That's our eagle pedophiling your goose. Goose was of age. Yeah. Chris Hansen is going to show up and ask the eagle to take a seat. I'm okay with it. Also, that, that, that picture is taken from a video. A videographer took a video of a bald eagle and a goose getting into it. Right. Last year. Yeah. Around the same time as the Four nations game. And people were nobody of note, but people in Canada were sharing the goose on top of the eagle at one point. So. So you guys boo the anthem. We post an image. It was okay. You guys defended it, and then you're furious when we do something that, by the way, has been done, really, in all professional sports. Now you can see for, like, you may see a shark eating a panther if they're playing. Like, this is some of this. Well, these are mascots. Right. The mascots. Even pantomime fights sometimes. Booing a national anthem would be reason enough to be kicked out of any professional sport, certainly in hockey, just to be clear. So it's the double standard. Just apply that to tariffs. Just apply that to border security. Just apply that to drug trafficking. Just apply that to immigration. Here's another one about America's standing in the world. The arrogance begins. This is why the world hates America. No class. No class. I've got you covered. They'll wait nine months to get an MRI love child. And in the Olympics, maybe they were born, too. So we posted meaning the United States. Let's just, you know, I'll stay behind it. We posted. If you bring up overlay collage. The eagle. Okay. We had the eagle on top of the goose. And then this is. Oh, they did have a goose.

[Warren Smith]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

This wasn't shipped by their, like, you know, many ministers. But this is. This is something that they put out there. We responded with our own for a while. Right. And once we won, they're furious. These are the people who booed the anthem of our country. That poor guy thinks they're booing him. That's true. Again. If you did that in the NHL, you'd be suspended. You'd be punished for it. Just to be clear, in an international game, there isn't the same type of governing body. So they want you to believe that the more egregious sin is us posting this image that they also posted. We just showed you. The only difference is that those from Canada, they were AI. And the one that we posted was from an actual event of an eagle and a goose.

[Warren Smith]

There was round one, round two, round

[Steven Crowder]

three, and so on.

[Warren Smith]

And all the rounds had everything in it. Like in boxing, the contestants were getting more and more tired. There were times when it seemed hopeless for the goose. And the goose was under the eagle. I thought it was over. However, it was very, very impressive. The goose fought back and came out of that and survived the day.

[Steven Crowder]

And that's not AI. That looks like AI to me too. And then I ate both of them. And I ate them both. They were delicious. Oh my gosh, beautiful. They tasted like the fighting spirit. But I won't eat eagle again. Too stringy. 11:00am Eastern, by the way. That's when we stream in case you're just tuning in right now or you're watching a clip. So apply it to tariffs. It's a double standard. Then apply reality versus their delusion. Right. Booing the anthem. Yeah, we're better than you. You have no class. The reality is we're a more successful country. Canada is more poor than Alabama. Now let's go to the sympathizers. Canada. Just to be clear, the Prime Minister is a communist, and the liberals in Canada are actual communists. Liberals in the United States are pretty much communists too. Now, I want you to be aware of the communist sympathizers amongst your ranks. McCarthy was right. Because this is a time where at least we should all be able to come together and be proud. Right? The Olympics should be one of those events. That's why sports are supposed to be this sort of uniting, universal language. Well, I should say with borders in your country, meaning you all get behind your guys. You know, who knows that pretty well. Like the Russians did that those were their guys and nobody else's. Instead, you see people in the United States traders like those at HuffPo writing things like if waving the American flag or chanting USA turns you off right now, you're not alone. Geez. What I would say if waving the American flag or chanting USA turns you off right now, that should be an official question in the census. That leads to immediate deportation. Yeah. Goodbye. People say like, oh, you know, it's not good to say that. We're not saying crapole countries, though. Other countries are crap hole countries. We're not saying that other countries suck, though most do. We're not even saying in this instance that the United States is the greatest country on earth, though it is. See, they'll argue that all those things are too nationalistic I am. They'll argue that it's ethnocentric, which is a made up term, but that's not really the sticking point, is it? Just like dreamers with kids anchor babies. They don't want to deport violent criminals to the left. Waving the flag or chanting USA 3 Letters is a problem. We are not the same and we are not going to find common ground. And I guess the hero of this game for a lot of people, Jack Hughes, who just spat out his tooth only a few minutes prior, didn't get the memo. This is all about our country right now. I love the usa. I love my teammates. It's unbelievable. The USA Hockey brotherhood is so strong and we have so much support from ex players. I'm so proud to be American today. This was such an incredible game to grind out. I mean, you're bleeding right through it just looking at you right now. Can you just talk about how difficult this gold medal was to win? Unbelievable game by Hellebuck. He was our best player tonight by a mile. Unbelievable game. Unreal game by our team. That's just a ballsy, gutsy win. That's American hockey right there. That's a great Canadian team. But we're usa. We're so proud to be Americans. Tonight was all for the country. What does this gold medal mean to USA Hockey? It's everything. Like I said, the USA Hockey brotherhood means so much. Look at these guys. We're such a team. We've been together for two weeks. We're such a team. The USA Hockey brotherhood is so strong and we're so proud to win for our country.

[Warren Smith]

I'm lucky I'm from the best country in the world. We got great dentists there too.

[Steven Crowder]

So I'm lucky I'm American and they're gonna fix me right up. And I just want to be really clear about this. He just said it's a great Canadian team, but I'm proud to be American. Yeah, we won. That was as classy, to use the term of these angry sore losers from Canada as you could possibly be. We waved the flag and that's a problem. We wave the flag in front of, by the way, members of another nation who booed our anthem and our behavior is deemed less acceptable. We're not friends. Canada is not a good friend. And I know it's not all Canadians, but it's too many of them. And we're not friends with those in the left here in the United States. We are not friends. We are not. Part of it goes deeper than that for a Society to exist, you have to have a shared society. There has to be something that unites you. If you can't see the flag being waved or the chant of your country after you win an international sporting event, you are not a part of American society. I don't follow hockey. I didn't watch this game live, but at no point would I be, no matter who's president. When Barack Obama was president, you would never hear me complain of people waving the flag or chanting, usa. A social fabric has to be a weave, meaning somehow we are connected. We are not, and we cannot with those on the left here in the United States, because they would rather be Canada. Let's send them to Canada. Yes. Noodles, you're the biggest hockey fan here. I know you're. Yeah, I was just gonna say so. Jack Hughes scored the overtime game winner,

[Warren Smith]

but he referenced Hellebuck, their goal.

[Steven Crowder]

He made 41 out of 42 saves, which is incredible. Canada outshot us 42, 28. And so that's why they'll say, like, they won the game. But at the end of the day, like you said, it's the scoreboard. And that's what makes hockey so great. You can be outshot and still show up. Also just means we got a better rate. Not only that, it also means that sometimes, you know, hey, what happens if you're down towards the end? You pull the goalie. Sometimes you have a more aggressive strategy where if you say, we have a good enough goalie, we are going to be playing a different type of game. In other words, you can find other games where I guarantee you, the American team is more aggressive, gets more shots off. Sometimes you can find a faster passing game right where you're distracted. We all know this. You develop different strategies. You'll see that in fighting compustrike will go, well, this guy had twice as much volume in strikes, but he had a quarter of the accuracy. People don't always follow the same strategy every game. That's why we have, thank God, goals. An objective measure. Yes, exactly. And here's something objectively awesome. President Trump's call with the team. Watch. One minute. And by the way, Hugolie played not bad. How are you? Say hi to him. How you doing, Don? I have seen hockey goalies have slightly worse games. It's unbelievable. And you were all unbelievable. And that team is pretty good. You play? I don't know anytime soon, right? You know, I tell you what I just told my people two minutes ago. I didn't know they'd be calling. I said, we're Giving the State of the Union speech on Tuesday night. I can send a military plane or something, but if you would like to. It's the coolest night. It's the biggest.

[Warren Smith]

We're in.

[Steven Crowder]

Watch this. We're gonna have to bring the woman's team. You do know that. I do believe I probably would be impeached. Okay, look, I won't lie to you. They're not as bad as the softball broads, but some of them are rough. Lots of Leslies on those teams. I love that. Before he could even get the words out of his mouth, they knew and they were like, we are in. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, compared to the NFL, compared to the NBA, hockey is the least leftist sporting organization out there. And you know what's ironic about that? Hockey is you may not like the sport of hockey, you may not follow it as much. It is without a doubt the most team centric sport out there. Meaning you will have star players who go out there on a given night and bleed for their team and nothing else. Because that's what needs to be done that night. People will put their ego aside in hockey and you can say that there are other sports out there. People argue, you know, soccer, which one requires the most amount of athleticism? You look at Hughes, no other sport. Here's how I am measuring it. Outside of, you know, combat sports, individual sports, as far as a team sport, you could drop any player off from the NFL. Toughest, meanest player, any player from baseball, NBA, soccer, you put them in overtime in hockey, knock out their tooth with a hammer and say, go. Not one would accept that you could take any of those hockey players, put them in any other sports scenario. It doesn't mean they skillfully would do well. They'd get sacked if they were. But they could do it. They would have the mental toughness to do it. There really is a different mindset, so a much more collective mindset as far as a team sport, hockey, compared to others, where people hot dogs, yet they lean more, right. And this is something that I think people need to take stock of this Conservatives, Republicans, nationalists, right, people on the right. We absolutely believe in preserving liberty and freedom because we also understand our collective duty. That's how Japan misgauged. They underestimated the United States in World War II. They said, It's a nation of playboys. They're all about freedom and decadence. So they're not going to be willing to die the way that you guys are. We were more readily willing to die. Why? Because we were willing to die for freedom. That's the same thing with a lot of these hockey players. They believe in the power of the individual so that that empowered individual can sacrifice himself for his team when the time comes. Don't mistake rugged individualism with us not understanding the importance of the collective, because those on the right live their lives in a way that is far less selfish than communists on the left. And the same thing with hockey players in comparison to other sports. The macro here is take what happened. Canada complaining. Canada changing the game or changing the terms. I should say Canada bitching about us doing a far more mild response than they did in booing our anthem. And they vilify us. It's the same thing with Europe and NATO. They don't honor their contracts. They don't meet their spending. And when we finally say, you know what? Maybe we're going to pull from NATO because we're tired of footing the bill, we're the big bad villain. These people booed our anthem and are furious that we posted an image of an eagle with a goose. By the way, an eagle would kick the crap out of a goose. We all know that. It's not even close. And I fear Canadian geese. You don't even need a picture for that. No, you don't even need a picture for that. One has incredibly sharp talons. All right, we have to go. We're gonna go on to Mexico, too, because we're going south at the border. But before that, you know, by the way, and I would never advise, when you go to Mexico, you can see some shows that, at the very least are, you know, uncouth, I guess, to say, you guys know what I'm talking about in Tijuana. Don't do that. And, you know, just find a line of work that is a good, honest day's work. That being said, you don't have to do that right now, because we are going to roll up the dollar bills and put them in your undergarments. It's time for Reverse Super Chat. There you go. No donkey needed Blackout coffee. They want to give back. 50 free Rumble Premium Subscriptions were just gifted in the chat. Blackout coffee. You can go to blackout coffee.com Crowder and. And use a promo code, Crowder for 20% off the strange animal brew. That's my blend. I spent a lot of time putting this together. This is what we use here in the office. It's what I use at home when I make espresso. It's the only thing that we use. And let me know what you think about it. They roast it Ship it fresh. They have single serve pods if you're into that. That's gross. You guys shouldn't do it. But they do provide that. If convenience is your God. Go to blackoutcoffee.com Crowder. Use the code CROWDER for 20% off. And really let me know what you think of. Strange animal. Brute. This has been reverse super chat. You're such a coffee snob. Mexico. No, I'm not. This is actually. This is a good. This is a. Yeah, it's terrible. This is a good. Like I said. And this isn't a snobby coffee. It's a. It's a good. This is good. It's a good medium roast. Highly rated, and it'll work in anything. It's not too dark, so it won't gum up your grinder. It took us a long time to make. Also, it's tough. Coffee beans are. You know, they're difficult to get. They are. Because it's a persnickety crop. Anyone here ever had the coffee fruit? You ever actually tasted it? No. No. It's delicious. And we don't use it for anything. It tastes like a watermelon meets a cherry. What you're eating is the seed, and we call it a bean. But, like, what are they doing with all the coffee fruit? They're just tossing it. Maybe that was their refuse and they're just, like, selling it to us. Joke's on us. I have no idea. It's delicious. I want. Yeah, try it. No way. Try it. Sometimes it tastes like a cherry meets a watermelon. People can comment below. You let me know if you've ever had it. All right. You have to spit out the seeds though, the beans. So we have Orange Smith coming on here in a little bit. One year ago, let me tell. One year ago, President Trump designated cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. Now, we've seen that with Venezuela, but he designated specifically Mexican cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. Why? Because they control governments. Right. They're effectively transnational actors, and they can destabilize entire countries, regions, in some cases, halves of continents, and use fear. Right. As a terrorist organization would. We saw this on full display yesterday. So first, let's set the stage. Monroe Doctrine, you know this. The Trump administration was very clear that the national security approach. The Western Hemisphere is ours. And thank God. Picture any other country in the Western Hemisphere and tell me you want them at the tiller of the ship. He wrote, the United States will reassert and reinforce the Monroe Doctrine to restore American preeminence in the Western Hemisphere to protect our homeland and access to key geographies throughout the region. So this is something that is well known. The left, of course, has complained about it. And that means that anything President Trump does must be bad. So designating foreign drug cartels as terrorist organizations, they also so believe it's bad. We saw them do it with Venezuela, now Mexico. The president there, Claudia Sheinbaum, has repeatedly rejected. She kind of did, but she doesn't really mean it. Our intervention, it is necessary to reaffirm that in Mexico the people are in charge and that we are a free, independent and sovereign country. Cooperation, yes. Subordination and intervention, no. He has insisted on several occasions that the United States military be able to enter Mexico. And we have said no very firmly. First, because we defend our sovereignty, and second, because it is not necessary. The people are in charge. Sure, people are in charge. So, you know, I've seen. Why would you care if a few drug cartels get taken out? Well, this weekend it turned into a war zone because of just that.

[Warren Smith]

This is Dan Dix here reporting for

[Steven Crowder]

Press for Truth, coming at you here live in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico.

[Warren Smith]

Just had the military driving past me, and as I understand it, I should

[Steven Crowder]

not be around anywhere where the police or the military are, because they are

[Warren Smith]

the target right now. I can see the flames underneath that black smoke, major flames there.

[Steven Crowder]

That's just people having a domestic dispute. Yeah, no, don't take it out on the five dollar rotisserie chickens. Yeah, that's people having a dispute because the people are in charge of their government. That's what I mean. Oh, okay. Yeah. So let me tell you exactly what happened. The Jalisco New Generation Cartel. For future, I'll just say cjng, their leader El Mencho, was killed by some Mexican security forces. There wasn't any involvement of the United States outside of shared intel, from what we understand. But also, there were numbers that came out that there were some American Guardsmen. Right, no, sorry, sorry. These are the National Guard of Mexico. Oh, National Guard. 25 were killed during the 25. Mexico. The internal dispute. And there were conflicting reports coming out, so we're still kind of parsing through it. But intel was shared. That's how we helped. Keep in mind, this is the main competitor to Chinaloa cartel. Yeah, that's El Chapo. For those of you who don't necessarily know, follow if you're not in the brackets of the drug cartels. And so what is happening is the cartels are now trying to, what, use terrorism? They're trying to retain power over and discourage the government from acting. The people of Mexico are not in charge of their own destiny. It has been for a long time. And you know this. And all of those who are in the know have known this. The drug cartel says jump and the government says how high? It just depends on which drug cartel has the most power at that point. That's why they have been designated foreign terrorist organizations. By the way, El Mencho's henchmen did not go down. I will give them credit where it's due. Without a fight. I always forget how terrible that motion picture was. I'm terrible. So this isn't just a problem though, for Mexico, just like if Canada is communist, it's not just a problem for Canada. If Canada has a porous border, it's not just a problem for Canada. It's a problem for the United States. These cartels are a major threat to the United States. I'm not gonna have the libertarian debate about the war on drugs. We live in reality right now. And drug cartels exist and they do bad things. And if you legalized all drugs tomorrow, they would still exist. They would just do something else. Let me direct you to some facts. Check the references. Here's key fact number one. The CJN ng other cartels are not just responsible for drugs. About $100 billion a year, for example, 1 million pills, 77,000 kilograms of drugs were seized by the DEA. But there's also human trafficking. $13 billion a year. Now remember, there are 300,000 children lost under Biden. We don't have the exact numbers to know which ones were directly the result of these cartels. But here's the thing. If you just legalized all drugs, that $13 billion a year in human trafficking would go up. These people aren't drug dealers. These people are criminals and who happen to make money off of drugs. The idea that they are going to straighten up and fly right if you simply permit their behavior like they're going to submit an IRS form is ridiculous. Keep in mind, when you look at. You have a contrast former administration, right? Biden drugs, including fentanyl, skyrocketed the use the importation therein under President trump, just this second term, fentanyl deaths are down almost 20%. You look at the border, which of course directly involves Mexico. 12 to 20 million completely unvetted illegals. I get it. Some of those are visa overstays. It's hard to get the exact number. Let's round it, let's. Let's give it an even round 15 million, you have gangs taking over entire apartment complexes. Compare that to President Trump. Border crossings down by 95%. Cartel arrests are numbering around 7,000 at this point in time. Key fact number two, there's a reason that these people are considered terrorists. Okay, you saw what they did in Mexico, but they've also been doing this here. So in 2025, Mexican national was charged with terrorism in Texas for providing material to support the CJNG cartel. Grenades, weapons, cash. Was arrested in Mexico, extradited to the United States. For some reason, though, even with all this being said, the left, the same left who says that waving the flag at the Olympics and chanting USA turns them off. You know what else turns them off? Designating cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. This comes from New York Times, Cato, you guys will have all the references. Brennan center for justice wrote the dangerous sweep of Trump's plan to designate cartel those terrorist organizations. I'm sure. But you know what I think is more. You know what I think is more dangerous? Drug cartels. Wait, I don't know. I mean, labels are kind of worse. Labels, man. Cato wrote Trump administration shouldn't designate drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations.

[Warren Smith]

What?

[Steven Crowder]

I'm sure they have some bullshit pseudo libertarian, really a liberal in disguise reason for it, but you know, it's because drug cartels are scary. Yeah, that's exactly right. We don't to want, we don't want to misidentify them. New York Times wrote how labeling cartels terrorists could hurt the U.S. economy. What? I mean, I guess we'd lose $100 billion in drugs per year if that's how you want to frame it. At what point do we say these people are just anti American across the board? They hate, they revile the United States of America. The left is not a part of American society. It is no longer. The Democrat party is no longer a political party. They don't like the flag, they don't like borders, they don't like us being tough on drug cartels. What do we do? Balkanization almost seems okay to me at this point. I think we may be long overdue for a divorce. If you say, well, why aren't we all Americans? Yeah, but you don't like the flag. If I say America, your stomach turns. If I say, hey, can't we like, can't we sort of try and clamp down on drug cartels? You go, no, no, no, that's not right. That'd be bad for America. And if I say, why? You say, eh, like, what do you. What how do we find common ground at this point? And of course these same people bitched about President Trump bombing narco terrorist drug boats.

[Warren Smith]

The Pentagons announced the US blew up another boat in the Eastern Pacific, killing four people, claiming the boat was carrying drugs, but once again offering no.

[Steven Crowder]

We first saw news that last week the Trump administration took this airstrike on

[Warren Smith]

a boat off the coast of Venezuela.

[Steven Crowder]

First of all, we have no information on who was on that boat or who was killed. It might be as the Trump administration says, members of a drug cartel. Well that's some information, isn't it? Civilians, we don't know his stated reason for taking the strikes to try to stop, stop the flow of drugs in the United States. It makes no sense as the centerpiece of a counter narcotics.

[Warren Smith]

In many ways it's bringing the logic

[Steven Crowder]

of Gaza into the Caribbean in terms of unaccountability. That man's body generates no pigment and,

[Warren Smith]

and an expansion or sexual aura of, of national defense to justify saw him

[Steven Crowder]

and thought about sexual. What is in effect just extrajudicial killing. It is about separation of powers. Does for the folks who wave their constitution around. Read the damn thing. Okay, I have waved the constitution around. I have. Are you trying to say that the Constitution says that we can't designate any foreign terrorist organizations to be terrorist organizations? Whenever the left says the Constitution, you know they're lying to you. Just to be clear, whenever someone on the left says actually I'm a Christian, but you know they're lying to you. And, and when we're talking about sinking these boats like terrorists or no terrorists, it's sink or swim time for Mexico. And if you like me, fam, you know I can't swim. So let's go to tourism. Yeah. Nailed it. They love you. Just got some new votes. Yeah. The traitors in Canada, our greatest friends. Canada. Ah, yeah, they're our greatest friends. So we designate a group, domestic, sorry, foreign terrorist organizations. They take over entire cities in Mexico and show exactly what we told you to be true. That they control governments and that that is a threat to the United States. So what does Canada do? Our greatest friend? They encourage their people to go to Mexico. Tourism from Canadians to Mexico up 12% down 28% going to the United States because Canadians believe that it's safer than the United States for them to be in Mexico. Hope you're enjoying it. Your extended stay. Here's a post from Jay Hunter on X wrote last week I had a trip booked to the us Cancelled that and went to Mexico. If you're Looking for a vacation. I suggest Mexico. The love for Canadians is real down there. And your kidneys, Better food, better people, better country. Papa John's. And they don't. And they don't have an elderly orange rapist felon as a president. Okay, okay. So the drug cartels in Mexico are better than President Trump and they're better specifically for Canadians. All right? And the Mexican tourism minister said that Canadians go into Mexico and says, said, I think they are choosing more friendly policies. You know what else this happened when I was growing up, Canada did this with Cuba. You could actually argue that the people of Cuba, because there are consequences, right? Canadians going, we're going to stick it to the United States. I can't believe they beat us at hockey. Even though winning doesn't matter, right? It just matters how you live. But we're going to Mexico. They do the same thing with Cuba. The people of Mexico will be under the thumb of the drug cartels as long as Canada does this. That's why countries boycott countries. Just to be clear, that's why countries have embargoes. That's why countries have sanctions. Cuba. Cuba. Canadians have almost single handedly kept the Castros and their never ending lineage in power afloat with their tourism dollars. When the United States said we're no longer allowing our people to go to Cuba, do you think the people, let me ask you this. Canadians go, we're going to Cuba. I can get some rum there, duty free, whatever the hell it is. Why do you think when Cubans get to America, well over 80% of them vote Republican and Conservative. Do you think they're happy to see Canadians go there? And every dime they spend goes directly to the, the fascist autocratic communist regime. What I'm trying to say is just sticking it to America because you have a jealousy complex. It's not annoying. It kills people. It kills people. I know because I was one of them. I had to go to Cuba. I was one of few Americans who went to both Guantanamo Bay to do some shows for the troops as an American. And when I was young, I had to go to Cuba on a Canadian passport for a rising crust pizza commercial, which by the way, pretty sure was a money laundering scheme. Yeah, I don't see why the rising crust is coming out of Cuba. Yeah, I have. Well, they needed it to be set during the summer. They needed to blow their budget. And I remember my mom leaving a tip on a bill. And you know, I was a minor, I think I was 16. And I said, mom, you know, if you do that that's not gonna. That's not gonna go to her. That's gonna go. And my mom said, oh, I'm sorry, hey, if I put that, did that go to you? And she just kind of. My mom said, you know what, nevermind. I'll. Let me write that. I'll give you cash. She said, don't. Don't touch the bill. Don't touch the bill. Don't scratch. They'll know, like she was going to be carried away forever. Forever. Canadians support the government of Cuba. Canadians support the government of Mexico in bed with the cartels while they virtue signal. And those people will never enjoy basic freedoms. But you know what? You have the moral high ground, Canada, because you kill 5% of your population with euthanasia. Now, surprise, Canadians are stuck in Mexico. For all the Edmontonians out there. They were telling us to go over there, but yeah, we all had to run here. And by the way, that sucks if that guy's Canadian. Serves you right. Here's what Canadians don't do. Is this right or is this wrong? They can't answer it. It's a godless nation, ironically, because they still actually have God in their national anthem, which has offended a lot of people. They have no basis to declare what is what right and what is wrong. And so their moral compass is, we don't like America. What will bother America? They can't say that objectively. Tariffs from the United States and Canadian goods is wrong because they do it. They do it. If they had an objective standard of right and wrong, they would say, well, we've done tariffs and so they're doing so you know what that makes us? Maybe we should either all do away with tariffs or just sort of accept these terms. Instead, it's we don't like America, so we should be able to do it and they shouldn't be allowed to. Canada has not met their NATO spending for decades. Canada wouldn't exist as a country if not for the United States. But instead of saying, is it objectively wrong for us to sign a contract and not honor it, do they have a point? They go, well, we don't like America. They can afford it, so screw them. We're going to buddy up with China. This is why you're seeing a resurgence in Christian nationalism. Because people need to be able to govern themselves with an objective standard of truth, of right and wrong. Canada doesn't have that. That's why they're killing their own people in record numbers. That's why they are allowing men to compete in women's sports and championing it. That's why they use stupid terms like two spirited. It's why they implement tariffs and bitch when it happens to them. It's why they boo the national anthem, complain when they see a meme. And it's why they give their dollars to oppressive governments that jail political dissidents while convincing themselves that they have the moral high ground. I really mean it. I really, really mean it. The United States should militarily intervene in Canada because of this and a bunch of other reasons that we've covered. They're actually a national security threat. They're actually a national security threat because we don't share any common ground or language as to what is right and what is wrong. And we are not friends. Alberta. I really hope you guys leave. And we're not saying you have to be the 51st state. We'll just have a relationship with you. But I think our relationship with Canada needs to be done with. It's over. It is an immoral, godless, conquered people who only take. They don't give. Can anyone tell me this? How has Canada benefited the world in any significant measure? They'll say they have a peacekeeping force, whatever, so do we. It's called the United States military. What have they done? They've had more time than the United States in many ways. You guys may not know this and they certainly had a leg up because they didn't fight royalty. They bowed to them. Why isn't the rest of the world saying dear, when an earthquake happens, when a tsunami happens, why aren't they saying dear God, I hope the Canadians help us. You're selfish pricks, Canada and you mistreat everyone. We are only as valuable to you as the handouts we give. And I don't think we should be doing that anymore. By the way, I know we've gone late but we are gonna continue for a while because we had some technical difficulties. Warren Smith is going to be on the show but we'll continue to rumble premium mug club and you can click that button right there. So you will probably take some chat with you for Warren Smith. I'm excited to talk with him. Click that button. $99 a year. None of this happens without your support. Or try for $9 a month. Month. If you don't want to get the hand hatched mug you get everything ad free. 100% more show this next man. Let me play the clip before he comes on. You may many of you are familiar with him. Some of you may not be. Warren Smith on X. It's W.T. smith, 17. And he is on Rumble and YouTube, the Secret Scholar society. Sorry, I have to read because it's always hard for me to keep track of consolidate. Warren, you're a professor, Come on. Simple. But he was a teacher and we're seeing a lot of this now where you're seeing people from other professions then go into media almost because they're compelled. It wasn't necessarily their choice to do this full time. For those of you who are unfamiliar, Warren Smith became famous for really being fired for this exchange that he had with a student about J.K. rowling. And I know what you're thinking, he wasn't fired for this because it's exactly how an exchange with a teacher should go.

[Warren Smith]

She said, dress however you please, call yourself whatever you like, sleep with any consenting adult who will have you live your best life in peace and security. But force women out of their jobs for starting that, for stating that sex is real.

[Steven Crowder]

So let's pause it.

[Warren Smith]

Let's not go with what other people are saying. Let's try and learn how to critically think. So let's analyze the tweet ourselves. So that statement, do you see anything problematic? Disregarding other people's opinions? She did try and pin some things on a specific group of people. Where does she do that? Can you read that? But force women out of the their jobs for stating that sex is real. So when I hear that, I'm interpreting that as meaning. If a woman says that, you know, saying that there's a difference between men and female and then being attacked as transphobic, I think that's what she's saying. By attacking someone for stating that sex is real, that is exactly what she is saying. Is that transphobic to you?

[Steven Crowder]

So to me, no.

[Warren Smith]

Stating that sex is real is not transphobic. It's just a fact of life.

[Steven Crowder]

It exists. Fired for that. You know the real reason he was fired? Because by the end of that, the student seemingly changed his mind and reevalued how he thought. We can't have that in our trusted institutions. Show him you love him. Please welcome Warren Smith to the show. Mr. Smith, thank you for being here. Sir. Can you see me? Hear me? How are you?

[Warren Smith]

I can. I'm good. Thanks for having me.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm glad that you're here. Look, your set is. It's been upgraded since back then, I noticed. Because this is your full time gig now, right?

[Warren Smith]

It is, yes. Never would have expected it, but it is.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. I see this a lot. People like you who have a realm of expertise which is what we need. And kind of dragged into this kicking and screaming. Not kicking and screaming, but basically you wanted to be a teacher, and through teaching, it was deemed so unacceptable that now you teach online and reach more people. Can you explain to folks who are maybe new to you how that went down? Because I remember they even like seized your computer back then, right?

[Warren Smith]

Yeah. So that video we just looked at kind of went viral, I guess. There was. Things got very strange literally the day after Piers Morgan had me on, and then the school's lawyer sat down with me and they were like, well, you didn't break any rules, so congratulations. I hope. I hope nothing goes wrong in the future. You know, insinuating you're walking a fine line here, but we don't have anything right now. There was a great deal of pushback from many of the teachers I was working with. There was definitely a sense of anger that most people. They don't want to say it to your face, but. And I was working with the. With the music teacher. We started recording in this space every Friday. We're like, well, this is interesting. We had been making some videos just for, like, class lessons and exercises because I was teaching content creation essentially.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay.

[Warren Smith]

Working with cameras. So it was already the medium I was teaching. And he was telling me stories like, man, they are looking for any reason to get rid of you, so you've really got to be careful. And that went for a while, for about a month or two. And I thought, there's like an 80 chance they're just not going to renew my contract this summer. And I thought that's what would happen. But it wasn't. And it came out of door. Yeah, yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

And they fired. It didn't help that you mooned the whole faculty, from what I hear. Justified. Wow. I mean, and here's the thing, the reason, too, you know, I've watched a lot of your content and, you know, there's. People will often say, like, the debate bro sphere. I'm sure I'm just using that as an encapsulation. And you. I definitely see you taking more of an approach that's similar to how I do because I was never a debater. We didn't have debate club in high school as a comedian and started doing the show where mine was always just an approach of the Socratic method. And then sometimes people say, like, it's just a polite way to sort of trap people. But I notice that you do that a lot. Can you explain to people? And I don't want to miscategorize. Like, it Seems like that's your approach. Why do you take it and how fruitful has it been?

[Warren Smith]

I think it's because it is intuitive. It is something you can learn and hone, but I think the potential resides within all of us, and it just naturally comes out. If you're genuinely trying to. If you're seeing these flaws and you're trying to navigate them and you're doing it in an honest way or objectively, it's inevitably going to happen because how else are you going to get through? You're just going layer by layer, peeling the onion back to try, essentially getting to the recognition that. That none of us know as much as we think we know. But that's. It's not a reason not to strive for knowing. But, yeah, I think it's ingrained, just similar to language. The capacity is like. I believe it's. It's embedded within the very fabric of reality. Like language. It's. It's ingrained within us, but then we learn the. The words, the language that you speak. But the capacity to speak, I think we're born with.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. I also think the way you apply it is pretty fair because, you know, today it's very easy to try and, you know, conduct a conversation for clips, being aware that there'll be a clip and a highlight. And sometimes the Socratic method doesn't always lend itself well to that, but if you take the conversation in its totality, it's usually a very fair way to approach it, regardless of where you line up. And have you felt that? Because I would even say you with Nick Fuentes, you interviewed, and people will say platforming. I always, I tell people, actually this is a good one to go watch you and Nick Fuentes, because it was fruitful, but it wasn't just combative.

[Warren Smith]

Yeah. And you were. You just said you're not. You didn't start out as a debater, but I would consider you as one of the top debaters working today. And you use that similar method when you're on college campuses. I mean, those. I've been watching your content for years. That's one of the reasons it's so compelling, because it is. Obviously you have a point of view, but you're fair with them. Right. And you're going question by question. But. But yeah, with Nick Fuentes. Yeah. You just. It's. It's not trying to win. I always try and remind myself, like, the. Only. When you're going into these exchanges, there's always this. Because this could go wrong at any time. And it probably will eventually. But the. And the only solution I've seen is to not try to win, but to genuinely try and gain a better understanding. We're all trying to figure out what is true. And if that's your genuine pursuit, then you're not gonna. There's. It's. It's impossible to lose as long as you don't corner yourself on some. No, this is. This. I'm. I'm guaranteeing this is Right. You just. You're able to adapt and grow with that. So that's what happened with Nick.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, Well, I thought. And I thought it was very productive. Same thing for me, I was genuinely curious because I noticed some. What I viewed as not only even inconsistencies, but I noticed some sort of divergences with him and myself going, well, this is reasonable, but if you consider yourself more conservative, how do you hold these beliefs? And there are a lot of people who just went, well, no, no, you just got to attack, attack, attack. I go, have you seen me interview the first transgender mayor of Texas? Like, it's the same approach. Even though I think that's a crazy person, for me, it comes from. And I think there's a little bit, maybe, correct me if I'm wrong, you're a teacher, right? So invariably, you're going to be more knowledgeable than your students. And so you naturally have to sort of bridle that because your job is to teach them. And ideally, I always say, if a teacher is good, at the end of the year, every student would be getting close to 100%. We're not trying to trap them. We're trying to get them to understand the material. As a comedian, I once, you know, you have to deal with hecklers where it's the fastest path to shutting them down. Hopefully, you know, watch their soul evaporate in their body so they stop disrupting the show. Go. I was like, now, I can't do that here. If my goal is to convince people, I would imagine it's the same thing for you because you're supremely capable in a position of authority as a teacher, you have to go, okay, let me scale this back and meet them on their level.

[Warren Smith]

Yeah. In the classroom, it's very different. And I consider it kind of like a blank slate method where you're just analyzing the incoming information, and I'm just looking for flaw filters in a way. Usually in all of these debates, that's how I. It's like I have a. I imagine a little red dial goes off anytime that dial goes off. When there Is a flaw. Now there's something to pounce on. And you're. And yeah, you're right. There is a time and place to pounce right. It's now that I'm in this space and occasionally debating with people. Yeah. It can be a. It can be more of a game because they're playing a game. The students are very different. They're coming at it often in a more innocent, genuine way out of ignorance. Often. Yes, it's very different. And you have to. In the classroom it's very, is very important to strive for objectivity because we've seen how that goes awry with a teacher who's leaning to the left heavily. Heavily. It's very different than applying the Socratic method. They're being like, no, you're wrong for thinking this.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Warren Smith]

And they, they don't show, they tell.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Warren Smith]

That's the biggest component because my background is in filmmaking and the laws of narrative. Studying screenwriting for years and years and years and somehow that led me to this point. But all those, a lot of those skills are really useful and I've been realizing that you would never think that, but the laws of narrative are the laws of engagement grounded in psychology and all that is playing into this. So the biggest tip I could give people for debate is show, don't tell. Like you gotta show them why I can't just tell you you're wrong. And you do a good job of that too in your debates.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, thank you. Sometimes I'm a Hammond Hager who kind of just had to do it. The change of mind thing, like we talked about it was that on cable news where I was at Fox News for four and a half years. I said no one will ever do this. It has to be four minutes in a quadrant view. I said, I kind of think that people would like to see an actual conversation where we hash our ideas out. It wasn't a thing back then, so I didn't really know what to call it. But going back to teachers, professors, since you've been in academia, if you were handed the keys to a major university, let's say tomorrow, what would be one of the very first policies that you would either instate or abolish to specifically correct the imbalance like you're talking about there a viewpoint diversity therein.

[Warren Smith]

I would get rid of tenure first because that's. It makes it impossible and you would have it merit based, performance based. I don't know how to fix tuition, but that needs to be solved. I would stop the. Because that financial structure, when I was in Graduate School. 60 to 70%, probably over 70% of the students were directly from China. Like because they could pay more money in tuition. I had multiple classes where I was the only American student in some classes, the only non Chinese student. And they would be speaking Chinese in the class. This is in Boston. Emerson College. Yeah. I would not kowtow to the nonsense that we're seeing and allow. I would embrace this technology. I would embrace live streaming. So Penn State. Sam Richards is doing this. He's the only one I've seen doing it it. And he's. I've been talking to him behind the scenes. I don't think he would mind me saying this, but he's terrified the. The college is going to fire him at any point. And so I'm always talking to him like, man, the kids are hungry. Like to disagree. Let them. He's like, I'm just worried something's going to go wrong. And there's a. But I would embrace this new medium. Let people see what you're doing. Embrace transparency. And that becomes a recruitment tool as well. Just broadcast it like his class has become number one for that reason. Because he just says we're going to live stream the whole thing. No one else does it.

[Steven Crowder]

That also explains something. Inner workings there. Because changed my mind also. They weren't always on campus. The first ones were with a sandwich board just like a town square. It was a call to the professors. We always asked the professors to come out and talk and they never would. But now we have one scheduled with, I believe, UPenn in March. Someone has stepped up. But that kind of explains why so many professors, they were usually the ones requesting we be banned from campus. If it's really a culture of a monolith and bullying behind the scenes. It's one thing for 94% of all donations in higher education to go to the Democrat Party. Like that's definitive. It's another for them to disallow people from even having a different opinion, even if they're using the Socratic method. It's. That's really scary to think about. And you said this was. This is when you were in film school. They were all Chinese students. Why do their movies still suck so bad?

[Warren Smith]

Yeah, that this was graduate school. So I started in 2016, three years. I was in college for nine years. It's. It was. It's looking back, I don't regret it because it got me to where I am. I wouldn't recommend it though. The cost of tuition, everything. Like, especially like I wanted to be a filmmaker. It's. And I had a lot of great experiences, but it's a dying industry. I would not. Anyone listening to this who's considering that path, don't do it. There's alternatives. And that's what I'm teaching now for. For Emerson College, which is surprising that they're still letting me do it, but it is like the anti film school film class kind of. And I just like in five weeks, I'll teach you what I. I really think is most important. Everything you need to know. Save your money. It's that kind of thing. Yeah. The industry is dying. It's an interesting conversation to have.

[Steven Crowder]

Mine would be Content Creation 101. Make sure the thumbnail has tits. And I'd see you next semester.

[Warren Smith]

That's really what it is. At the end of the day, it's changing. Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, it's so radical.

[Warren Smith]

That's what I'm teaching.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Even the algorithms. Everything changes. Where you can have a handbook one month and then the very next month it changes. I mean, we had to deal with that with the vox apocalypse. And I, you know, I did two semesters of film school before I bombed out horribly and just never.

[Warren Smith]

I can kind of tell watching your stuff. And that's something I resonate with you with it where you're like Saving Private Ryan. Those sketches. It's. It's awesome.

[Steven Crowder]

Thank you. Oh, that went a good direction. I thought you. He flunked out. Well, no, you can definitely. I have nightmares about people finding my second semester transcript because I just didn't show up. I was just doing stand up every night and showing up late in class and writing peanut butter on my.

[Warren Smith]

Yeah, it's a waste of time, largely.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Plus I was also supremely incapable. So. It's both. It's a little bit of both, but I doubt it.

[Warren Smith]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm glad someone's. We brought in what, a metric. An actual ton of sand to do it where we, you know, people have no idea. No people on the right. It's like, it's the podcast. I'm like, oh, it's not really what we do. I was just Daniel Day Lewis as Bill the Butcher for like nine hours last week. That's true. And you know, it takes a lot of work to make something this silly. Look, speaking of which, I know we had technical difficulties today. I'd love for you to stick with me and take some chats on Mud Club Rumble Premium. But before we go, can you tell people the best place to find you and. And watch not only your content, but really what I see is online lessons.

[Warren Smith]

Yeah, it's on YouTube primarily, and I apologize the handles and names, but Secret Scholar Society or Warren Smith on YouTube, that's, that's where I'm focusing.

[Steven Crowder]

If you want to really generate, you just, you just make all the handles. The professor with tits. And then you will make a killing. For those of you, click that button. We're going to take some check chats with Mr. Warren Smith. Let's go, Toolman, go. Because we have the thing.