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You don't even need to change the channel. Each show rolls into the next YouTube streaming is pretty much dead. Rumble did it. Hey, we have a lot to talk about today. This is probably our most try to not be racist segment ever. It includes Crockett, it includes Joy Reid, and it includes Leslie Jones. Outside of that, Eric Erica Kirk, Ms. Erica Kirk, Mrs. Erica Kirk and Candace Owens had a meeting. We talked about it yesterday. We had our predictions. What have we seen from that and what do we think is going to transpire? Especially as we head into peace on earth goodwill toward men. There's a lot of speculation out there and let me Ask you this. How much of this. And not specifically Erica and Candace, but how much of these factions in this warring do you think is just kabuki theater? How much of it do you think is just theatrics? Professional wrestling? Because we have some interesting clips on that today. And finally, we'll actually give our report card on the FBI. It's the end of year, FBI review. If we're grading the effort, it's not good. If we're grading the results, it's also not good. On with the show. The guy that I kiss, that's the guy. Take him away under guard. Okay. All right. Wait. You betrayed the son of man with a kiss? No, my Lord. I would follow you to the gates of hell. Please, Judas. What? What are you doing? Judas. Judas. Stop fighting. Stop it. Lord. Come on, let it happen. Stop it. Don't let it happen. Judas. Judas. Man, Judas is really trying to get in there with Jesus. Is that a surprise? What does that mean? What, you don't know? Oh, oh, yeah, Judas, I mean, he's into that mammon. Mr. Mistoffeles. Unnatural. What? I've never heard that. How have you never heard that? I mean, it's all over Nazarene. Just ask Matthew. The time after he had too much wine, after the wedding, gets in there, starts playing grab ass with Matthew. I've never heard this story. No one tells me anything. I mean, he gets in there, he's going in there so aggressively. I mean, Matt just thought it was a good move. On tax day. On tax day, Judas gets around. I mean, poor f you couldn't get his work done. Plus the thing with her, right? No, shut up. What happened with Aaron? Judas out of the. And then he was like this and this boom. I mean, he pythagor him as cute angles. It was like geometric. Oh my God. Yeah. Click Rumble premium and join now for 99 annually or 9.99amonth to get the entirely ad free experience and an ever expanding roster of content creators. And free speech. All right, we'll get right to it. We're only have a few more of these shows live, weekdays 11am Eastern. And our annual Christmas special is this Thursday where we give back. It's heartwarming and I always tell you it's, you know, it's a pg. It's fun for the whole family. You know, there's stuff for the grown ups to enjoy, but it's fun for the little ones as well. Captain Morgan, CEO. How are you? I'm fantastic. How are you? I'm good. I just have to adjust my headphones. You do? Well, because we had to pre tape an Ash Wednesday. It's the one time we pre tape because we make it look like a movie. What? December 20th at Springfield Comedy Club in Springfield, Missouri. Mr. Josh Firestein. That's the Saturday that. Oh, that's right. That is. Yeah. This Saturday. I got two shows. It's the birthplace of Brad Pitt. Really? Is it? And Bass Pro Shops. Also Adam and Eve. He was Adam and Eve as well. The comedy club. What, the porno shop? No, no, no. The people. The Lovers Store. First people. Oh. Some people believe that the Garden of Eden's in Missouri. All right. I don't. It's not. I don't subscribe to it, but it's, you know, it's not like it's. If people believe it, they're not trying to kill me over it. So it's true. We can disagree. Choose your. Don't get upset. Look, I'm just asking questions. Who believe that don't get upset if you visited the birthplace of Adam and Eve in Branson, Missouri. Watch the bees. Is that by the Putt. Putt. Stop it. Or is it around the. It's by the half. Titanic Museum half, which I attended. Thank you. Which just seems like someone was going to build a whole Titanic museum and just gave up. Like, this is. Which is going to be the actual size of the Titanic. And halfway through, like, hey, Seth, did you run the numbers and the budget? Like, you're out of. Was it. Let me. Let me ask you, this was a top half or bottom half? It's. It's. There's submerged or. No, it's just a half. Like, left to, like, north to south half. Oh, yeah. Oh, interesting. Interesting choice. Yeah. And then you get a name of someone. When you go through the Titanic museum, you get the name of someone and they go, hey, are you going to live or die at the end of it? Which is a wonderful. It's a wonderful activity for children. Sorry, kid, you're in stowage. Mom and I. That's exactly what it was. I really thought I was going to live because I was like, well, this seems like a relatively wealthy lady. Yeah. But then I realized she old. Pretty much everyone died. When I went and we did the tour, like, yeah, you're all dead. Well, Stephen comes out. He's got. He's got slit from his face. Throwing the coal in there all night. I dream to be a minor. They reject the transgender someday. Aim higher. Yes. All right. With a few things to get to before we get to Erica. Candace. FBI. Cardi B. Oh boy. I know. Not a fan. This is not the try not to be racist segment. Just to be clear. So I don't know how any Islamic country lets her in, but she wanted to make it really clear. You know these people who they take pandering to a different level. Cardi B. Wants you to know that she is down with Allah as she promotes her latest tour. We in Saudi Arabia, baby, I told ya, I told you. After I give birth and we getting ready for the little Miss Drama tour. It is two months away. Dominican, Puerto Rican, half of each. And I'm also every D. It is Christmas, it is Kwanzaa, it is Hanukkah. Get your fix the tickets. Hey, can't forget Kwanzaa because in January don't be picking me up at Cardi. There's no tickets left. There's no tickets. I don't have it. I don't got no more tickets. I don't got no more. I don't have money. I'm packing. She looks like the ghost of Christmas yet to Suck. She's doing that thing where fat guys wear hefty trash bags to lose weight. Is he hugging her or practicing a takedown? Now some have been criticizing her saying like, this is pandering. This is a double standard. Especially with the release of her latest single, that's region specific. Circumcised ass pty. So that seems. Hey, it's Cap. No Cap. I hate it. And here, this. Why is she so loud? It's how I do. I talk on my phone, on speaker. On commercial flights all day. I'm on speakerphone. Okay, hold on, hold on. They say I gotta put away my phone for takeoff. It's stupid. That's the Dominican side. They're being stupid. They think if I'm talking to you, I'm gonna blow up the plane. What is it with them talking on speaker? I don't know. And by them annoying, you know, people. Now here, this next clip. I saw this and I thought it was like, you know those like Spinal Tap, which is relevant because of obviously the late Reiner or Christopher Guest films like documentaries where people are so self unaware. Mockumentaries. Yeah, these mockumentaries. That's. I almost thought this was sort of a send up. Turns out she's being serious. Here is Cardi B showing you how she wears modest Islamic clothing. Seriously? Okay. This is a Halloween costume called the Sexy Jihadist. Yes. Where are the bombs gone? Hey, tell me Cardi is stripping. Halal or haram? They didn't even have to think about it. Make it rain. All right, boys, do your worst. How did they let her in the country? How do they let her talk? Yes. Or sing? Like, why? The Islamic countries are the last countries on earth that I would think would import that to them and be like, yeah, a tour sounds nice. Isn't this progress? Can we look at it that way? Can we look at his progress? No. Wow. They're westernizing and they're being filthy whores. No. This is where she performed in. At a festival in Riyadh. And this is where I would imagine that a lot of people there, to put it Nick's way, say, you know, maybe ISIS has a point. It's like, you know what? We owe you an apology for that one. That's hard. Yes, we do. Look, I don't want to live. I don't want to be in a world, obviously, where young girls get sold off as child brides and, of course, are generally mutilated. But do we also have to have a world where a lady like Cardi b makes millions of dollars off of talking about cleaning her butthole with acrylic nails? Like, isn't there a middle ground? Cleaning it? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, like, I don't know that I care. Like, maybe don't stone them, but, like, isn't there a middle ground? Like, you could just arrest, like, lock her up forever? Like, can we do a life sentence just for being really obnoxious? Yes, I think I. You know. Can we deport her somewhere? Yeah, anywhere. Anywhere. Anywhere. I mean, deport her there. Yeah. Can you play that again? Her and her modest clothing. Like, here's. The funny thing is, technically. Technically, she is hiding all the things. No, her arms. Are you not allowed to? That's right. That's. No, her arms are out. You can't show that. And it comes up to where it's almost a side boob. That's. Okay, let's watch this. It's almost side prosthetic boob that she's got there. Let's. Let's watch this again. It's like, oh, yeah, play it. See, being modest can still be sexual. I can be modest and still be a whore. Saying, it looks like a sexy nun outfit. Almost just missing the white parts. She's like, the opposite of sexy. I mean, he's talking about the attempt. She's a sex symbol. Not my taste, but it's attempted haram. Sexy it. I thought, that's a style. It's very big and proud. They were loose for A reason on people. Okay, yes. Is it Bbl Haram? I don't know. I don't even think that Muslim men would have a chip in their brain to process this like, well, I guess technically, but I still want to kill her. Go with your instincts. Just kidding, just kidding. I just. Here's the thing. If we as Christians did our job and called it out and we're like, this is just a no. This is a hard pass. This is ridiculous. We don't want this in our society. We don't want an entire generation of women turn into effectively unpaid whores. If we actually stood guard at the gates, then those in Islam would have no point. They have no cards to play. But as it stands, it's kind of a wash. All right, Alex Jones, we'll go to the more reasonable person. So yes, yes, quite literally, yeah, we need, we need to cleanse the palate here with reasonable Alex Jones in his latest rant on the dividend on the right. And here's the thing. Alex Jones and I can interview people who would be on the other side of this issue and still talk with them. But you know where Alex Jones stands. This is entirely reasonable. And I don't know that I've ever seen Mr. Jones. I've seen many versions of him. Right? I've seen, obviously now much healthier, sober version of him. I've seen conspiratorial version of him. I've seen huge heart version of him. He genuinely has a big heart. I don't think I've ever seen only adult in the room version of Alex Jones. I worry about you guys. It's not the criticism I care about, it's about you. I will literally post, oh, look, Chernobyl's leaking again. We've got a problem. Or oh look, it's like, why are you coming up for Jews? Or oh man, this hurricane sure devastated this area. Please donate Jews. Oh, you know, look, the Muslim Brotherhood is celebrating the murder of all these Jews. Yeah, why are you, why are you, why, why do you care about them Jews? Well, A, I don't want to kill the Jews and B, the Muslims want to kill all the Christians too, you dumb asses. So there's a lot of right winger populace. Not a lot, but it's a big minority that literally love Islam. They all kissy kissy fishy all over the Internet and they have joint symposiums together and they talk about the, you know, national white alliance with Islam. You guys are idiots. Absolute. I'm explaining to you like this, like you're five Years old. You won't even know what it is, though. Fake nationalists, fake Christian patriots. If I had a glass of water here and a glass of water right here, and one had a couple tablespoons of arsenic in it and the other had a couple tablespoons of cyanide in it. Well, they're both bad. Yum. And I'm like, don't drink the arsenic and don't drink the cyanide. You're like, why are you covering up through the arsenic? And I'm like, or. Here's the easier one. There's a box right here and it's got five or six black widows in it and five or six brown recluses. How is this easier? Deadly bullets and kill you. And I don't want to stick my hand in either box. Can you understand that? Like, I don't want a heart attack and I also don't want cancer. See, it's like you. You understand that, right? Like, I don't want to eat dog or cat. There we go. I get it. Right? Yeah, me too. That one. Yeah, that one drove it home. The Muslims are funding a lot of this Israel obsession, that Israel is in total control of everything, including what time you have a bowel movement to try to take over our populist movement. So. So that we'll stand out and let them take over. No, you can stand up for sovereignty when Israel tries to push us around. And you can do it to the Muslims too. And they're all with the globalist left. Look at the universities. Look at Soros. Look at it, you idiots. The threat is real. Yeah, Europe's further down the rat hole than we are, but we're getting drug into it too. And there's not long to turn this around. Good God. But I realize most of you don't have any depth. All you know is a bunch of anti Jew terms and you think that's the whole universe. It's not. That is exactly what we would expect you to say. Rabbi Alex Jonestein, Holy wars. I hope this $7,000 was worth it. Here's a. He's so right. He is absolutely correct. And here's the thing. Sometimes, you know, if you want to avoid getting into pissing matches on these things, it is helpful to have a blanket statement. That, by the way, is perfectly in line with the idea of maga. Of conservatism of America first. How about none of it? How about none of the outside influence? How about no nation building? How about none of the foreign entanglements? How about we stop funding all sides of the war. And I understand the argument, by the way. I understand that people make the argument that behavior because of the establishment of Israel and because of some displacement. There were a lot of Jewish people on international governing bodies who encouraged borders to be open and the Western world to take in Islamic refugees. I understand people making that point. But then you do have people saying, and by the way, some people do believe this. I want to differentiate between people who I disagree with and people who accuse anyone who doesn't share their opinion of being paid by the Jews. You have some people who then hopscotch and say, see what happened in Australia? It's just Muslims are just. It's just the Jews. It has nothing to do with us. Yeah, but did you also hear that imams in Australia saying jihad is the only way to deal with all infidels? So you go from the establishment of Israel, you go from a sort of leftist worldview, and you hopscotch over what, 9, 11, Charlie Hebdo, nice Pulse nightclub. I mean, how many do you have to go through? And you hopscotch over the Islamic travel ban. You hopscotch over stronger borders, hopscotch over one administration treating immigrants differently. Is it perfect? No. Is it enough? No. When you're still allowing people to come in from places like India and Pakistan that still are hotbeds in some cases of Islamic radicalists. But to say that because Israel created open borders, immigration policy, Jews, therefore just, look, they're only attacking Jews at Hanukkah. You'd have to simply ignore all of the attacks against Christians, all of the policy differences between the conservative wing and the left wing, and all of the prescriptions in the Quran, as well as all of global history. I don't know if you know this. The Muslims weren't just trying to eradicate Jews. You guys understand that, right? Everyone. So I think Alex's position isn't this nuts to those who don't follow him. Yeah, look, we shouldn't have any foreign nation. We shouldn't be doing the bidding of any foreign nation. And. And Islam is a major threat to Western civilization, our way of life. Comment below. What do you think is a greater threat? What are you more concerned with? Influence of the Jews in the United States, which you can be. But I'm saying, what are you more concerned with? Immigrants from Israel or Jewish immigrants or immigrants from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, the Islamic world? What do you think is more concerning? What is more corrosive? That's a genuine question. And finally, I would ask you this in the comment section. Can you Understand why someone who may disagree with you may hold that position. And can you allow for the fact that maybe they aren't paid by either Israel or Qatar, they just disagree with you? Because that's what I see on the right. It's not that people disagree. It's that there are certain factions of people who accuse any. Everyone who disagrees of being bought and paid for. That's what the left did. Big oil. Oh, you're against socialized medicine. You must be paid by big pharma. Remember? That was a big one. Yep. Oh, you don't support the. Anyone who criticizes climate change policy, they're paid for by big oil. I see that exact same thing. And people who use that approach, it's antithetical to America First. It's antithetical to Christian conservatism. That's my opinion. Yeah, there's a huge difference in being manipulated, which is what they would say. Like, Jews manipulate politics through influence and they push that direction. Two, we want to completely subvert your government and not let it exist at all. And that's what Islam is, and that's what they want. And it's happened for a very long time. And we used to understand that. We used to have a very good read on that. And we're like, no, we don't want that. Now. It's like, well, they only hate us because. And I'm like, I don't know that I care about what you say next. Because if they hate us, it's not going to change. Do you think tomorrow if we stop supporting Israel, because that's what they hate us because, we support Israel, if we stop supporting them at all, do you think it, like, rewinds the clock back to some fairytale time where they don't want to take over the world or subjugate the West. It doesn't matter. Right. It's like, okay, well, fine, I have a threat that I have to deal with. Yeah. Dealing with all of them. Okay, so it's APEC now. Do Vlad the Impaler. Come on. And you know what? For people who get upset or say, ah, you weren't hard enough, I guarantee you, I guarantee you for all of our disagreements, I could have this conversation with a Nick Fuentes, we would disagree. And I don't think he's ever once said that I'm actually paid for. But he's insinuated, you know, brought to you by, you know, the Republican Party, sort of because I'm more mainstream conservative, he would say. But people like Candace said that, well, I Was taking money. Implied. I was taking money from foreign governments. Guarantee you I could have this conversation with Nick Fuentes. We would not agree. But we could see the other's perspective. We wouldn't agree. I don't think he would say that. I'm paid for by AIPAC or the Jews. That's the difference. You can disagree and have a conversation. You know the way they used to do George Will. What was that? The. The McIntyre Group on PBS, whatever it was. In the morning they used to have a panel. I grew up in America. I don't care. We used to. Yeah, we used to be able to do that. And that's the big difference. I will tell you that is not the same as. And Tucker does it too. Tucker does it too. Oh, well, of course I would say that because these people have apac ambush, right? Yeah. You get better at the laugh. It's pretty good. There's nothing about it to me that is genuine. No, I don't know anyone who goes from zero to that fast. Except for the joker. Well, if you, if you laugh that impulsively, you might sound like that too. Yeah. Yeah, maybe it's like he doesn't even know it's happening. His body's surprising his brain. Yeah, I guess. And that's a little funny too. That is funny. I mean. Yeah, I want to. I mean, it's a free country. Yeah, absolutely. So you guys can comment below and you know, let's try and actually have some. There are areas where civil discussion can take place in disagreements and there are areas where they can't. For example, if someone is saying abortion up until and including birth, period, you're not going to have a. You don't need to pretend as though you're finding common ground. You don't need to pretend as though, hey, you're on the same plane of morality. I don't think so at all. That's someone who understands what murder is, acknowledges it and just decides that we want to sacrifice babies at the altar of self. Anyway. I do think that who has more influence over which we should be concerned? Israel or the Jewish lobby or American Jewish lobby or Islam? Qatar. I do think that's an area where we should be able to have a disagreement and not just try and destroy someone's character. I don't think anyone is handling it well. And just for the record, I said this on Piers Morgan. I think that Islam is a greater threat to the Western way of life. That's my opinion. And I just want us to stop funding all sides of the war. If that means that you believe I'm a paid shill slash Nazi, okay. Everyone deserves to be connected. That's why T Mobile and US Cellular are joining forces. Switch to T Mobile and save up to 20% versus Verizon by getting built in benefits they leave out. Check the math@t mobile.com switch and now T mobile is in US cellular stores. Savings versus Comparable Verizon plans plus the cost of optional benefits plan features and taxes and fees vary. Savings with three plus lines include third line free via monthly bill credits. Credit stop if you cancel any lines. Qualifying credit required. Let's go on to Mrs. Erica Kirk, Candace Owens. They had a conversation. Finally they sat down and met. I issued my predictions yesterday, but we don't have a ton of information. I guess Candace will be talking about it on our show to discuss the ongoing people say drama. I wouldn't consider this drama. I don't think implying that people are complicit or an accessory to murder is drama. My opinion is it goes beyond that. I've made that very clear. But to sort of bury the hatchet. That's how it's been presented and I genuinely hope that's the case. Candice actually did say after the meeting she said Eric and I had an extremely productive four and a half hour meeting that I think we both feel should have taken place a lot earlier than it did. We agreed much more than I had anticipated. Of course we also disagreed on various points and people as well. Most importantly, we were able to share intel and clarify intent. Sure. I will have a full rundown for you all tomorrow as I'm currently exhausted, but I wanted to quickly let you guys know that absolutely nothing was held back and the immediate result was that tensions were thawed. That's the major takeaway. Tensions were thawed. Erica said that they had a very productive conversation, she said, with real Candace Owens. That's her handle. More to come from both of us. Looking forward to America Fest this week. Time to get back to work. And I will say I hope that's the case. Yeah, I hope people can get back to work. And as someone who doesn't have a dog in this fight, I've never appeared at amfest. The last time I did anything at CPAC was over a decade ago. I was invited back. I decided I didn't want to be a part of it. We're kind of an island here, for better or worse. I understand that there's value in what tpusa does and provided that Candace pursues truth and remains on the right side of history. I mean, she has said that she has no problem with the left. I don't really know if she considers herself conservative anymore. That's not a mischaracterization. That's not a backhanded insult. I don't know where she lines up. I do hope that everyone can get back to work and can till the soil for some. You know, for some fertility as we go forward, because this has been a giant waste of time. The world's biggest high school. Here is Candace on her channel, seemingly agreeable about this whole thing. Four and a half hours later. I'm alive. I'm alive. I'm totally fine. And I'm sorry. I was gonna do a show for you guys this evening, but I am truly exhausted. Very productive conversation. I asked, Asked every single question. I mean, from Egypt, just like a drama teacher. Turning Point, USA Faith. And I was very surprised by some of the answers that I got. And I think they were also very surprised when I shared certain intel. This probably should have happened a very long time ago, but I wanted to let you guys know that I am alive. And I will have the full rundown for you guys tomorrow of what. What transpired. And, yeah, I. I think it's. It was definitely a very big step in the right direction. So I'll see you guys tomorrow. Okay. I hope that it goes the right. But that is kind of the question, right? A step in the right direction. Well, what is that? And I know people who say, well, she's the only one caring. She's the only one asking questions about Charlie Kirk's murder. Anyone who says that that is not true. No, that is not true at all. We do an entire episode on it. There still are questions. I also understand that there would have to be evidence presented in court that would necessarily need to be private until then. That's how this works. This idea that only one side is asking questions when in fact actually presenting answers, most of which are verifiably false. That's not. That's not an accurate characterization. So if a step in the right direction. To me, the only right direction would be truth. And that doesn't just mean asking questions. That's not what pursuing truth is. That means doing it in good faith. And that means in the absence of information, the only truth that can be communicated is that there is an absence of information. And then you can, hey, maybe that's concerning. Maybe you have some questions about the absence of information. Maybe you even have some theories. But presenting information as though it's a fact when it is not. As a matter of fact, that's the only fact that's not pursuing truth. So I'm hoping that step in the right direction means. All right, everyone is going to. Hopefully this will stop being the quagmire that it is, the slinging mud and pursuing truth. Well, then great. We can all start stepping in the right direction. Yeah. If it's any direction other than that, I want as few of you to go along with it as humanly possible and the meeting and not this. I do believe that Mrs. Erica Kirk has been put through it. And I understand people saying, she's not a widow, she's a CEO. Just stop. You guys understand? Yeah. Okay. There's also the difference between questioning leadership as a CEO and personally attacking someone. And I've been on this very, very early and took some arrows because of it. I'm glad to hear other people speaking out about it. So this is not specifically in relation to Erica Kirk, but there's a clip here from a comedian, John Crist, and I will say I can verify this myself in my past experiences. Now, I've never been in these rooms, in these places for at least a decade, but there's a reason why I decided to not take part. He presents the idea that a lot of this may just be professional wrestling. Say it out loud for everybody listening. And I've said this before in some kind of context. There was Turning Point people there, and Candace Owens was there. Marjorie Taylor Gritt. Tucker Carlson. I hate to say this out loud out loud. Everybody friends? Everybody friends. Wait, I thought you. I thought you. And I thought you. Because the thing he said about the. But aren't. Shouldn't you guys be fighting. Shouldn't you guys be fist fighting in the center of this party? Yeah, Everybody. Hey, you want to drink? Yeah. Everybody. That does. Again, I don't think that that's. I think that Erica Kirk was legitimately pissed. I don't think she's. Friends. Yeah. With Candace Owens, to be clear. But what he's talking about with some other people, maybe at TPOSA or Tucker Carlson, he's using examples. I can tell you that. I've seen this behind the scenes, and we are an island. And. And that means that we often won't be mentioned by other folks. But it also means that we don't owe anybody. That's one thing in this industry. You always owe. And sometimes you owe by giving them a little bit of shine, and sometimes that's through the form of controversy and a debate. That, man, you know what? You always plan to quash. He's got a point. Yeah. He even took a photo, by the way, at the after party. It's harder than I thought. Yeah. Come on. Whoa, Gerald. I'm disappointed, sir. Who won? I didn't know you guys knew I went. Sometimes the real victory is the journey along the way. It is. You know what? I like that. Yeah, me too. I have it on a bumper sticker. I also. I also have bumper sticker. I also have a one with a picture of me. It says I had fruit for dinner and it's a big glass of wine. Oh, you live, laugh and love all day. I do, yeah. What are we going to say there? Oh, man, that's the game, you know, like, that's the game that we try to avoid, you know, because there's just so. There's just so much. Well, I mean, a man your size, I don't blame you. Yeah, it's fair. I'm very flexible. But not. Not for Twister. He's more of a don't wake dabby guy. Half the time I don't realize what I'm saying until I say. Gerald is not flexible. No, I just. Not for Twister, the game. I understand. So there's two points to this. One is there are certain people in that group that would definitely not be in the same room and be nice to each other unless they had to be. Right. You put on a game face sometimes at a party because there's people there that you may not like, but whatever, it's not. It's not my party. Big deal. And then there's others that were, like, friends anyway. We knew, like, most of the people that he named would probably be okay with each other. Yeah, Right. But it's just this idea that it is professional wrestling. So many people think that this is not just. It's not real. You're just doing this for clicks. You're just doing this to get people to watch. Candace Owens, like, tune in tomorrow, guys. I'll have a full rundown on this, and I guarantee you at the end of it, there's more information coming out tomorrow, guys. Make sure you tune in tomorrow. Yeah. Like, you're not. People don't do that to get to the bottom of stuff. They don't plan shows for, you know, now until eternity. They just present the information as quickly as possible. And she would go and she would break anything that she's doing. Any plans and go live. Here's the info. Right. But everybody's just so, like, no, she's got to get a three camera Shot. I will tell you this too, not to. I'll pat myself in the back with this one when I'm dead and gone. And God willing, you know, that's a long time from now because. Yeah, well, I just said, by the way, I did say because it's giving up the ghosts. Like, I know I have to start trimming my nose hair. And I still have a nose hair trip to the in the box cellophane. And so I'm gonna have to do that. But the second I ever think I have to trim my ear hair, I'm just gonna kill myself. I am going to. Not with a gun. I'm never gonna be. No, don't be that statistic for the anti second amendment crowd. So if ever you see me in a bathtub, you know, pulling a tannin bomb needle in the like, you will know it's because I sprouted one ear hair. I'm checking out, you see, drinking a glass of arsenic and then a glass of cyanide. Watch out. Or sit me in a bath with my hand in a box of black widows. You know, it's over. If Steven's touching spiders, it's over. But I will say this. Find, because there are always hit pieces, there are always rumors. Find one person. This doesn't include the investigative journalism unit. One person who's been a guest on the show ever in its history who would complain or tell you that we sandbagged them or the interview wasn't exactly what I told them it would be. For better or worse, if it's contentious, if I'm going to disagree, I let them know. 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I'm gonna do it. Some of them armed with guns. I'm gonna be stealing like it ain't no swarm. Sexual contact with an unresponsive man. I like the little repeat at the end. I hope we get back to Terrace because Terrifier still might be one of my favorites. That's one of my favorite stingers. All right, guys, I really. You all need an A for effort. Yes. I'm not saying that you're gonna get a perfect score, your final score, but an A for effort. You do that in the States, right? They give you a score for your effort. No, I think it's just a saying. Oh, no, we actually had scores on our report cards. We would get a grade and we get maybe for like elementary school commentary on your effort. And it was great. So the point is, I want you to really dig down deep and try to not be racist. Jasmine Crockett. Guys, remember what I just told you. So this is an actual lawyer and this video resurfaced where she was giving her opinion on criminals. And of course it's race based and of course it is racist. But you, you're better than that. Let's try and build some momentum with that Stinger. Try not to be racist. Okay? I don't want anybody to mistake what I'm saying. Just because you are impoverished does not mean that you will be a criminal. But I do want to be clear that there is a direct link between poverty and susceptibility to having to engage in certain things. And this is something that I know what certain things. Close and personal. As a public defender, I want people to understand that there are crimes that are committed to not because people are criminals, but because they literally are trying to survive. Wrong. Wrong. That's just not. I'm sorry, that's just not true. To be clear, regardless of economic status, references link in the description as we do every show. Black communities have higher homicide rates. They're more violent, meaning a poor white guy, poor white kid, poor black kid. Statistically a much higher likelihood of the poor black kid committing crimes. There are some studies that show actually middle class or upper middle class young black men still more likely to commit violent crimes than poor white men. That's. There can be some debate about that. They haven't always been replicated. But if you, you control for everything else, economic status, community, you know, family status, it's not even close. It's a trend. Also, this cannot apply to anything other than theft. There's no other crime. Now you're stabbing on the subway. That's the only crime that. That is, you know, something you're doing to survive. You're not stabbing a toddler in a grocery store parking lot to survive. Right. And you also have to look at what people are stealing. Look at the, look at the locked glass at cvs. A man cannot live on razor bump cream alone. So it's not a necessity. I also just. And I understand like there. I've dealt with hard times before, personally. My family has. I understand that there are difficult patches in life or long stretches in some cases, but I find it very difficult to try to use the. But I had to steal food, otherwise my kids would starve. Yeah, okay, Aladdin. You know what I mean? That's what I mean. Like, I. In the United States, it's very, very difficult to make that make sense for most people because of all of the safety nets that are out there in communities now. I understand if you say, well, they don't have a lot or they're a little bit hungry, but we have enough food to get through each day. But it's just. That makes sense. But to then go, well, then they can steal from somebody else or they can rob somebody else for that. No, it doesn't make any sense at all. Why are we bringing it up as though. So that's a solution. So what if we raise the economic standards of everybody in the United States and we still had some poor people in the United States relative to everybody else? Would that solve the crime problem? I don't know. The stats say no. But what's also odd is that poverty, I should say poverty, specifically in the black community, correlates with obesity. Weird. How much are you stealing? A lot. Next one. After President Trump referred to a reporter as Piggy, which is funny then, it's funny now. Leslie Jones again, guys, remember, okay, Address the point. Try not to be racist. She told Nicole Wallace how she would have dealt with the situation. I don't mean no harm. If he would have said, shut up. Pick it to me, I'd have been like, you fat. Pause. Wherever does the angry black lady stereotype come from? I don't know. I don't know. It's an unfortunate angle, too. Try not to be racist. Play yourself, you stanking bastard. You wouldn't be able to talk to me like that. Who you calling piggy? You fat. I'm gonna do it. Horse you walked in on. I mean, like, how are y' all not losing your. Like that. They didn't censor that. Obama did that. Biden did that. They must have been horrendous. I think they would have dragged Obama out to the yard and executed him right there with some of the stuff that he does. This is. The problem, is you can't have conversations with people. We were just talking before about where you can have civil disagreements, where you can have actual disagreements. Right. Not with someone who's this divorced from reality. Yes. She believes that if Barack Obama referred to someone as chubby or piggy, that he would have been dragged behind a truck as a hate crime. Like, think about. She actually believes that you cannot have a disagreement with someone like this. Who? There's no rooting whatsoever in reality. And this is crazy, by the way, because she said something completely different in another interview. He discovered me and decided that, you know, Miss Piggy was giving him a hard time, so he, you know, decided to get the next best thing, or should I say the better thing, and he hired Miss Boogie. Moi? Gizzy. Gizzy. No, thanks. No, it's not for me. No. Also, you know, when you lose your mind and you lose your temper and you're gonna cuss somebody out, make sure that you keep, like, a good train of thought, because you don't. You don't f. When you. She said F the horse you walked in on. It just does, you know, like, you get. You got to ride a horse. You don't walk in on a horse. Well, you can have sex with a horse after you walk in on it. Well, but then become Minnesota. Yeah. Do better. Would you imagine if she. She doesn't. She clearly has no. No experience in the equestrian. Yeah. What do you think of her as a horse whisperer? Hey, shut the up, huh? Nayin and shit. I got. I got hay in my eye. Pollen. Pollen. Let's get the out. This mugger. She's yelling at me again. Wilbur. Do you think she's capable of whispering? It's not possible. Like, do you think when she was a child and they played games of telephone, like, Sydney, climb the tree. Hey, and by the way, here's the thing. I mean, there are a lot of things. Try not to be racist. This is an encapsulation of, you know, reverse. Just racism of constant victim complex. It's because we're black, we're treated differently. And because she's a woman, she was called a piggy. Keep in mind, President Trump has called men far, far worse, far more consistently. But if you're a child molester, there's no cure. True. Can't stop you. Pathological. There's no cure. He's not a war hero. He's a war. Five and a half years. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured. Okay. I hate to tell you. Who wants to watch Buddha? Edge. Boot. Edge. Edge. Boot. Edge. Edge. No, no. Because it's an unpronounceable name. Edge. Ed. Edge. Boot. Edge. Edge. Which you like, Sleepy Joe or Crooked Joe? Because to me, he's a sleepy son of a bitch. You know, matter of principle. And I'll tell. Biggest liar. You probably are worse than Jeb Bush. You are the single biggest liar. This guy will say anything. Nasty guy. Now, I Know why? He doesn't have one endorsement from any of his colleagues. All right, John. I get picked from the buffet there. He's a nasty guy, written by a nice reporter. Now, the poor guy. You got to see this guy. Oh, I don't know what I said. He's going like, I don't remember. Maybe that's what I said. Someone who believes that him referring to a reporter as Piggy is more sexist than him allegedly didn't know. Mocking a disabled reporter with hand gestures, that's someone divorced from reality. Okay? This is one thing women like. There's a double standard. You're right. There is. If Ted Cruz was called Piggy, he would just go, what? It also would have been so much funnier than anything else he said. Yeah, but it wouldn't have been an issue. I'm like, okay. I just. All right. You'd have called me Piggy. Yeah, come on. And he would have gotten. Nick. The left would have nicknamed Ted Cruz Piggy, Right? Yeah. They would have made porky pig memes. It would have been the whole thing they referred to as a blobfish, for crying out loud. They did? Yes. Also, Jones decided to. And I mean decided to crash out over ice. And because she demands a reckoning, how do you think it ends? How do you think the era ends? Girl, this is. I'm hoping. This is what I'm hoping that midterms people come out and vote like crazy to switch it over, and then the reckoning comes. That's what I want all everybody reckoning rouse. I want them in jail. I just want jail. I want a reckoning. Y' all know y' all did wrong stuff. You know, some of the stuff you did was so wrong. I need a reckoning because that's. To me, that's the only thing that's gonna make it right. Oh, my gosh. She's like, you rescued, like, 500 kids from child trafficking. Prison, right? No, do me a favor, just for your audience, to make sure that the community is educated, name them, right? The things that. That you know you did wrong. Name them. Also, keep in mind, too, when they complain about white men and they talk about a reckoning, young black women are two times as likely to commit murder as young white men. So again, try not to be racist. It's okay to acknowledge crime statistics, but it doesn't mean that. That she is less educated than. I don't know. Just try not to be racist. Okay, Moving on. That's all I can. I just have to speak in the platitudes you're just. Just it. Joy Reid, let's do this one. Former MSNBC host, she shared this post that was really upset about the idea that the song Jingle Bells. I know what you're thinking. Not the song Jingle Bells. The song Jingle Bells is racist. None of our followers could read. I can't. Geez, Tim, this is try not to be racist segment, okay? All right. You gotta a for effort. It seems like she really had to do some digging to be offended by that. Wait until she. And by the way, sometimes the ideology isn't clear with our classics. Wait until she hears from Frosty the progressive liberal but also racist Snowman. Happy birthday. Hey, I'm alive. Hmm. Is this the future? Did we finally eradicate CIS males? I don't see any colored children. Looks like somebody won the race war. And you can identify as whatever you want Now. Who needs a vagina when I have an asshole? I can play with kids balls. But we still need to eliminate white men and Christians, Jews, Chinamen and any other transphobe. What say you kids? Are you ready to storm into town with me and slaughter the enemy? We'll call it theless Caliphate. I don't understand where he's coming from. Yeah, a lot of things don't really go together. His brain melted or something. What's smoking in that corn? Cob pipe. Yeah, an amalgamation. There must be something in that magic hat they found up with bath salts. And then Joy Reid, try not to be racist. Oh no. She went on to sing the song to own the cons. I don't know. Dashing through the snow In a one horse open sleigh O' er the fields we go Laughing all the way. Okay. Home alone again. Cause nobody loves me. Oh, geez. Oh, don't get mad at me. Cause I have hair like Slim Shady. Hey, there you go. I'd say Demolition Man. And Demolition man herself was not a fan, by the way, of this director's cut. No surprise of White Christmas. That's it. Keep the candles up. Keep way up high. Okay, Byron. Yeah. I mean, there's some legitimate grievances. I don't think I like it either. Wow. You almost let that flag touch the ground. You're off. You're not about to a mile and a half. Jeez. It's a thing. She goes into the barbershop, says give me the time, cop. She has been known to blow up a Taco Bell or two. Yeah, doesn't surprise me. By the way, don't you remember when Taco Bell looked like a casa it was fun. Just gray building. You had the purple tile. Yeah. There was teal. Yeah. It was fun. Yeah. There was nothing special. Food was tasty. Let me ask you this. If the country was that racist, would Joy Reid have been paid $3 million a year to host a new show that never succeeded? It was a net loss, always. I could do that. Yeah. Think about that for a second. I have thought about it. Yeah. I could fail at a new show and do it for less. Yeah, I can. Is that an offer? I didn't. No. I mean, yeah, I do msnbc. Much less. Only take out the failing part. Yeah, that's right. Much less. Or less. Think about that. When people talk like I have made in any given consistently much, much less than Joy Reid. And she says racism. All right, case in point. That's it. I rest my case here. Speaking. Which, again, try not to be racist. There's this reality star. I wasn't super familiar with her. Chrissy Ann Rock. So she was, I guess she's being coached by Ryan Garcia, who's a former, I believe, light heavyweight champion, or, sorry, lightweight champion boxer. Very, very good. And she's been training with him. Now, here is proof that women, particularly black women, by the way, who are, again, we gave you the stats, very violent, don't control themselves. She is actually being granted an act of mercy because this guy's a pro and he's clearly going easy on her until he finally just very, very little. Accidentally just taps her. But. But look how out of control she is. Jesus. Damn. She thinks she's tough. All training went out the window. She don't even see the hitch. It's instinct. He lightly taps her. Watch. Oh, my God. It cracked me. Oh, sorry. It cracked me. No, that was on accident. I ain't playing no more. No. Oh, my God. I hit her. No, that was on accident. I swear, Krishan. And you know what? Here's the thing that you hear say, I ain't playing no more. These people view it as playing when they're beating your ass. They view it as a hate crime if you fight back. And I'm not saying that he should have punched her. I'm not saying that he. But seriously, she's. I'm playing. He's like, okay, let's spar. He's not even wearing boxing shoes. They're on tile. And he's just letting her. And she's playing. As long as she is dominating and being aggressive and could cause serious harm. And the second just. You could see it was just instinct. There's Like a light tap, right? To kind of keep her off of them. I'm not playing them or. So when they're beating you up, it's playing. It's a game. When they have their comeuppance, it's a hate crime. Who's they? Try not to be racist. Don't. Now, she began training with Garcia after she got slapped. Stopped by another try not to be racist subject at a Christmas party last weekend. They're just playing. Look, guys, are we going to act like. Yeah, it's the same across all cultures, that that's how you expect a disagreement between two white ladies to go? She was like, let me look at your phone. Don't grab my phone for me. Violence. Yeah, violence. Immediate answer. Oh, that's not violence. She just got slapped in the face. Come on, man. That's not violence. That's. I'm just playing. That was just a slap in the face. Everybody gets slapped in the face every once in a while. I'm just playing. And then when someone decides to run your mouth, I'm not playing. Well, you didn't have to. It was a hate crime. Here's the thing. You can say whatever you want. People think it's. It's weakness often. And we had the Hodgkins here. They talked about white boy punking. They confuse your desire to avoid violence as weakness. But the truth is, generally speaking, white, Christian, European culture, you avoid violence until it's necessary, and then it's really violent. Right. They resort to violence, meaning the black community. Statistically, that is a fact, and it needs to change. Resort to violence very, very readily. And I actually think I can relate to it because these ladies don't seem like any type of. You know, they don't seem like valedictorians. I get cranky when I take, like, a muscle relaxer, like, after surgery and stuff. If I had to take the flex roll. I've told you guys that. Because I can't think. Yeah. And so people are like, oh, you get really ornery. And it's because I can't find my thoughts. And when I can't find my thoughts, I'm just like, leave me alone. And I just go, like, lock myself in a room, like, until it wears off. If you can't think, if you can't reason through the situation in which you find yourself, I can see someone just. And being violent. And you have a very large community in the black community in the United States who have been discouraged from thinking. They actively have by their leadership. Just think about what we just Heard from Jasmine Crockett. No, no. Don't think about your actions. Don't think about your situation. It's poverty. It's not crime. If someone calls you picky, you should be violent. That's the appropriate way to respond. And I will say this. This is a real problem, too, with the black community, and I do mean the community, because I have neighbors who are black, and I genuinely are probably some of the friendliest people on the block. But that's when you take them out of the tribal, the group mindset, because people use this term, keeping up with the Joneses, right? And that's. You have to have the nicest house and nicest car, and that's all silly, materialistic bull crap. Don't get me wrong. Keeping up with the Joneses in the black community is presenting as intimidating and as violent as possible. It's why their pants are down. It's why the tattoos that they have are where they are. It's why the colors are what they are. It's why the music communicates the way that it does. It's why the trash talk sounds the way that it does. You have to be just as tough, just as hard as the guy next to you. Keeping up with the Joneses is flash and intimidation, and then they're dumbfounded. If a police officer or a white person. My God. Finds them intimidating. Maybe not even intimidating, just threatening. They see warning signs, but they spend their entire life trying to portray that. Because if they don't, they're called an Uncle Tom. If they don't, they're rejected by that community. Leslie Jones acts that way because that is what is incentivized in the community. That's why whatever that reality star, that's the way they interact. That must really suck, keeping up with the Leslie Joneses. Yeah. Yeah. Must really suck. Genuinely, black Americans, you don't have to. You don't have to play. People say, hey, the only way to win the game is not play. You don't have to do that. Because I will tell you this. If you don't violently, intimidatingly keep up with the Joneses, guess what? White people, people who are not black, are happy to have you as neighbors. It's the community that we have a problem with. And if you were an alien who landed on planet Earth, you would, too. So I guess my question is, which lady said it best? Nobody. Wait, which one was a lady? We're not racist. Right. Oh, and we also. We have to move on to talk about the FBI, too. I guess, actually, right now, they were Talking about it on cnn, Cal, she actually had has Bongino and Patel at the highest odds of leaving the Trump administration before 2027. They have Bongino at 80. Oh, my God. At 50%. That has moved a lot. So Pete is down at 44. He was. He was the top person, I think a week ago. Yeah. Geez. Hope you sold those positions. No, I didn't buy any of those positions. I'm just saying Bondi at 26. So. Yeah. And I want to get the fact that Bondi is at the lowest. It just. It's so heartbreaking. I know. I would love to see her 100. I would love to see her as gone. So let me ask you this, and I have to, because I will tell you this. I'm not like close friends, but Dan Bogino and I have been friendly. I've always enjoyed my interactions with him. And so it's hard to be objective. Yeah. I think I have a good idea as to where his heart is and I believe it's in the right place. And it could just be gridlock where he's not able to do a whole lot. But I will tell you this objectively. If I were to grade the FBI in the first year of Donald Trump, if not an F D minus, would you guys say so? Weren't you expecting some very obvious arrests? Yeah. Some very obvious auditing. Maybe some more transparency. A little more transparency? Yeah. Based on what they said going in. Exactly. That's exactly right. And just so you don't take my word for it. Well, Levar Burton. This. This is what they were saying. The proclamations that were made before Cash Patel, Dan Bongino headed to the FBI. Anyone that wishes to do harm to our way of life and our citizens here or abroad will face the full wrath of the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. We were going to track this person to the end of the earth. There was no way he was getting away. 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Episode: Candace & Erika: What The Meeting Really Says About Conservative Media
Host: Steven Crowder
Date: December 16, 2025
In this episode, Steven Crowder dives into a busy slate featuring the hotly anticipated meeting between Candace Owens and Erika Kirk, the state of factional infighting in conservative media, the perennial controversy around race and culture (with a “Try Not To Be Racist” segment), and a year-end “report card” for the FBI. Crowder’s signature irreverent humor and direct conservative commentary are present throughout, with guests and co-hosts weaving in opinions, fact checks, and side jokes. The tone is punchy, unapologetic, and sometimes abrasive, as the show explores whether conservative media in-fights are real or performative, questions the sincerity of public controversies, and calls for more truth and good faith in public discourse.
Candace Owens (paraphrased):
“We had an extremely productive four and a half hour meeting that I think we both feel should have taken place a lot earlier than it did... Of course, we also disagreed on various points and people as well. Most importantly, we were able to share intel and clarify intent... Tensions were thawed.” (00:34:22)
Erika Kirk’s statement:
“Very productive conversation... More to come from both of us. Looking forward to America Fest this week. Time to get back to work.” (00:35:12)
Crowder critiques the “burying the hatchet” framing: “I do hope that everyone can get back to work and can till the soil for some fertility as we go forward, because this has been a giant waste of time. The world's biggest high school.” (00:36:50)
“Four and a half hours later. I'm alive. I'm totally fine. Very productive conversation. I asked every single question. I was very surprised by some of the answers that I got. I think they were also very surprised when I shared certain intel. This probably should have happened a very long time ago...”
— Candace Owens (00:38:10)
“There was Turning Point people there, and Candace Owens was there. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Tucker Carlson. I hate to say this out loud — everybody friends? ... Shouldn't you guys be fist fighting in the center of this party? Yeah, everybody. Hey, you want a drink?”
— John Crist (clip at 00:46:10)
Jasmine Crockett (on crime and poverty):
"...there is a direct link between poverty and susceptibility to engage in certain things... there are crimes that are committed to — not because people are criminals, but because they literally are trying to survive.”
— Jasmine Crockett (Clip at 00:50:15)
Crowder’s rebuttal: “Wrong. That's just not true...” He cites statistics about violent crime rates and disputes the idea that economic deprivation alone accounts for criminality.
Leslie Jones (on responding to Trump’s "Piggy" insult):
“If he would have said, 'shut up Piggy' to me, I'd have been like, 'you fat...*' You wouldn't be able to talk to me like that. Who you calling piggy? You fat... I’m gonna do it. Horse you walked in on.”
— Leslie Jones (00:55:10)
The hosts critique her “angry black woman” stereotype while lampooning her response as disconnected from reality.
Joy Reid (on “Jingle Bells” and cultural grievances):
[Reid references Jingle Bells as racist and sings the song “to own the cons.”]
— Joy Reid (01:04:15)
Crowder: “Let me ask you this. If the country was that racist, would Joy Reid have been paid $3 million a year to host a news show that never succeeded?” (01:08:25)
Crowder and co-hosts grade the FBI's performance after the first year of the Trump administration, expressing disappointment at lack of high-profile arrests or real change.
Quote:
“If I were to grade the FBI in the first year of Donald Trump — if not an F, D-minus. Would you guys say so?”
— Steven Crowder (01:16:40)
They reference promises made by figures like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, only to note a lack of concrete results or perceived accountability.
On Conservative Media Fights:
“This has been a giant waste of time. The world's biggest high school.”
— Steven Crowder (00:36:50)
On manufactured drama:
“So many people think that this is not real. You’re just doing this for clicks, you’re just doing this to get people to watch.”
— Steven Crowder (00:47:40)
Alex Jones on left–right divisions and Israel/Islam debates:
“If I had a glass of water here and a glass of water right here, and one had a couple tablespoons of arsenic in it and the other had a couple tablespoons of cyanide in it. Well, they're both bad. Yum... Muslims are funding a lot of this Israel obsession, that Israel is in total control of everything... The threat is real.”
— Alex Jones (clip at approx. 00:25:00)
Candace Owens after her Erika Kirk meeting:
“...I was very surprised by some of the answers that I got. I think they were also very surprised when I shared certain intel. This probably should have happened a very long time ago...”
— Candace Owens (00:38:10)
Crowder on “Try Not to Be Racist”:
“Try not to be racist. This is an encapsulation of, you know, reverse — just racism, of constant victim complex.”
— Steven Crowder (about 00:56:50)
For listeners: Even without hearing the episode, this summary gives you the structure, heat, and flavor of Crowder’s take on both intra-conservative squabbling and wider cultural conflicts, capped with an annual critique of the FBI’s effectiveness under Trump.
Warning: The language, humor, and tone reflect the show’s intentionally provocative “politically incorrect” style, including stereotypes, generalizations, and irreverence that may not be for all audiences.