Podcast Summary: Louder with Crowder

Episode: Candace & Erika: What The Meeting Really Says About Conservative Media
Host: Steven Crowder
Date: December 16, 2025

Overview

In this episode, Steven Crowder dives into a busy slate featuring the hotly anticipated meeting between Candace Owens and Erika Kirk, the state of factional infighting in conservative media, the perennial controversy around race and culture (with a “Try Not To Be Racist” segment), and a year-end “report card” for the FBI. Crowder’s signature irreverent humor and direct conservative commentary are present throughout, with guests and co-hosts weaving in opinions, fact checks, and side jokes. The tone is punchy, unapologetic, and sometimes abrasive, as the show explores whether conservative media in-fights are real or performative, questions the sincerity of public controversies, and calls for more truth and good faith in public discourse.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Conservative Media “Civil War”: Candace Owens & Erika Kirk Meeting

- Setting the Context (00:16:00–00:32:00)

• Crowder recaps ongoing strife between Candace Owens (formerly of The Daily Wire) and Erika Kirk (CEO, Turning Point USA Faith).
• The meeting is presented as a possible step toward reconciliation after weeks of public sparring and heavy accusations.
• Crowder’s take: “...I don't think implying that people are complicit or an accessory to murder is drama. My opinion is, it goes beyond that.” (00:33:30)

- Candace & Erika Statements (00:34:10–00:36:20)

• Candace Owens (paraphrased):
  “We had an extremely productive four and a half hour meeting that I think we both feel should have taken place a lot earlier than it did... Of course, we also disagreed on various points and people as well. Most importantly, we were able to share intel and clarify intent... Tensions were thawed.” (00:34:22)

• Erika Kirk’s statement:
  “Very productive conversation... More to come from both of us. Looking forward to America Fest this week. Time to get back to work.” (00:35:12)

• Crowder critiques the “burying the hatchet” framing: “I do hope that everyone can get back to work and can till the soil for some fertility as we go forward, because this has been a giant waste of time. The world's biggest high school.” (00:36:50)

- Candace’s On-Air Reaction (00:38:00)

• Candace herself says:

  “Four and a half hours later. I'm alive. I'm totally fine. Very productive conversation. I asked every single question. I was very surprised by some of the answers that I got. I think they were also very surprised when I shared certain intel. This probably should have happened a very long time ago...”
  — Candace Owens (00:38:10)

- Pursuing Truth vs. Theatrics (00:39:20–00:43:00)

• Crowder emphasizes, “...To me, the only right direction would be truth. And that doesn't just mean asking questions... That means doing it in good faith.”
• He suggests presentational aspects (“tune in tomorrow for the full rundown”) fuel the perception that some of the drama is manufactured for clicks.

- Professional Wrestling or Real Drama? (00:45:00–00:48:30)

• Crowder and team discuss comedian John Crist’s comments that much of conservative media beef is “kabuki theater” — not genuine animosity but professional conflict for audience and attention.
• Quote:

  “There was Turning Point people there, and Candace Owens was there. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Tucker Carlson. I hate to say this out loud — everybody friends? ... Shouldn't you guys be fist fighting in the center of this party? Yeah, everybody. Hey, you want a drink?”
  — John Crist (clip at 00:46:10)

Race, Culture, and Media: “Try Not to Be Racist” Segment

- Law, Crime, and Reality Checks (00:49:00–01:12:00)

• Crowder analyzes controversial statements by public figures like Rep. Jasmine Crockett, comedians Leslie Jones, and media personalities Joy Reid.

- Key Quotes & Contexts:

• Jasmine Crockett (on crime and poverty):

  "...there is a direct link between poverty and susceptibility to engage in certain things... there are crimes that are committed to — not because people are criminals, but because they literally are trying to survive.”
  — Jasmine Crockett (Clip at 00:50:15)

• Crowder’s rebuttal: “Wrong. That's just not true...” He cites statistics about violent crime rates and disputes the idea that economic deprivation alone accounts for criminality.

• Leslie Jones (on responding to Trump’s "Piggy" insult):

  “If he would have said, 'shut up Piggy' to me, I'd have been like, 'you fat...*' You wouldn't be able to talk to me like that. Who you calling piggy? You fat... I’m gonna do it. Horse you walked in on.”
  — Leslie Jones (00:55:10)

• The hosts critique her “angry black woman” stereotype while lampooning her response as disconnected from reality.

• Joy Reid (on “Jingle Bells” and cultural grievances):

  [Reid references Jingle Bells as racist and sings the song “to own the cons.”]
  — Joy Reid (01:04:15)

• Crowder: “Let me ask you this. If the country was that racist, would Joy Reid have been paid $3 million a year to host a news show that never succeeded?” (01:08:25)

- Commentary on Community and Violence

• Discussion on intra-community pressures: “Keeping up with the Joneses in the black community is presenting as intimidating and as violent as possible... Keeping up with the Joneses is flash and intimidation...” (01:11:20)

The FBI “Report Card” – A Year in Review

- Expectations vs. Reality (01:15:00–01:22:00)

• Crowder and co-hosts grade the FBI's performance after the first year of the Trump administration, expressing disappointment at lack of high-profile arrests or real change.

• Quote:

  “If I were to grade the FBI in the first year of Donald Trump — if not an F, D-minus. Would you guys say so?”
  — Steven Crowder (01:16:40)

• They reference promises made by figures like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, only to note a lack of concrete results or perceived accountability.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Conservative Media Fights:

  “This has been a giant waste of time. The world's biggest high school.”
  — Steven Crowder (00:36:50)

• On manufactured drama:

  “So many people think that this is not real. You’re just doing this for clicks, you’re just doing this to get people to watch.”
  — Steven Crowder (00:47:40)

• Alex Jones on left–right divisions and Israel/Islam debates:

  “If I had a glass of water here and a glass of water right here, and one had a couple tablespoons of arsenic in it and the other had a couple tablespoons of cyanide in it. Well, they're both bad. Yum... Muslims are funding a lot of this Israel obsession, that Israel is in total control of everything... The threat is real.”
  — Alex Jones (clip at approx. 00:25:00)

• Candace Owens after her Erika Kirk meeting:

  “...I was very surprised by some of the answers that I got. I think they were also very surprised when I shared certain intel. This probably should have happened a very long time ago...”
  — Candace Owens (00:38:10)

• Crowder on “Try Not to Be Racist”:

  “Try not to be racist. This is an encapsulation of, you know, reverse — just racism, of constant victim complex.”
  — Steven Crowder (about 00:56:50)

Timestamps of Important Segments

• Opening and Announcements: 00:00–00:16:00 (Skip: ads and show banter)
• Candace Owens & Erika Kirk Meeting Analysis: 00:16:00–00:45:00
  • Crowder’s predictions, statements from both, questions of sincerity
  • [Highlight] Candace’s post-meeting video: 00:38:00
• Are Conservative Media Fights Real? John Crist’s "Pro Wrestling" Comments: 00:45:00–00:48:30
• “Try Not to Be Racist” Segment: 00:49:00–01:12:00
  • Jasmine Crockett, Leslie Jones, Joy Reid, cultural commentary
  • [Highlight] Leslie Jones rant: 00:55:10
  • [Highlight] Crowder on community violence: 01:11:20
• FBI Year-End “Report Card”: 01:15:00–01:22:00
  • Grading the agency, Trump-era expectations versus results

Conclusion – Tone and Takeaways

• The episode is a blend of pointed conservative commentary, skepticism about media authenticity, blunt race and culture critique (often dancing around, or charging into, controversial territory), and calls for truth over theater within both conservative discourse and broader social debates.
• Crowder repeatedly insists on “pursuing truth,” eschewing both tribal loyalty and performative drama.
• The show wraps by reiterating the need for integrity in conservative media, transparency in public institutions, and honest debate — all while mocking both political opponents and some on the right for hypocrisy or superficiality.

For listeners: Even without hearing the episode, this summary gives you the structure, heat, and flavor of Crowder’s take on both intra-conservative squabbling and wider cultural conflicts, capped with an annual critique of the FBI’s effectiveness under Trump.

Warning: The language, humor, and tone reflect the show’s intentionally provocative “politically incorrect” style, including stereotypes, generalizations, and irreverence that may not be for all audiences.