Congress Drops New Epstein Files and Trump Drops New Bombs on Venezuela Terrorists

Summary

Louder with Crowder — Episode Summary

Title: Congress Drops New Epstein Files and Trump Drops New Bombs on Venezuela Terrorists
Date: September 3, 2025
Hosts & Guests: Steven Crowder (host), Tim Pool (guest panel), Josh Firestein (guest panel)

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Overview

In this lively episode, Steven Crowder and his guests tackle breaking political news centered around two primary stories: the release of new Jeffrey Epstein files by Congress, and a recent U.S. military strike on Venezuelan narco-terrorists ordered by President Trump. The discussion also touches on urban crime, particularly in Chicago, the effectiveness of gun control versus gun rights, migrant-driven crime in Europe, and the ongoing politicization of key news events.

Throughout, Crowder and co-hosts apply their signature mix of sarcasm, skepticism, and politically incorrect humor, bouncing between hard news and satirical bits, while engaging with both mainstream media narratives and right-wing talking points.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The New Epstein Files: Much Hype, Little New Info (00:01 – 06:47; 41:01 – 55:12)

• Crowder’s Take: The recent release of “33,000 pages” from the Epstein case is being overstated by the media and political left. Only a tiny fraction of files (less than 1%) has been released, and little new evidence has surfaced.
• Anti-Trump Narrative: Crowder repeatedly emphasizes that Trump is not implicated in the Epstein files, suggesting that if there were anything substantive, mainstream media would have run with it immediately.
  • “If President Trump was implicated in the Epstein files... don’t you believe you would have heard of it?” (05:27, Crowder)
• Media Exploitation of Victims: CNN and Democrats are accused of using Epstein survivors to attack Trump, despite no direct evidence tying him to Epstein’s crimes.
• Victim Privacy Concerns: There's an ongoing debate about releasing all files vs. protecting victim identities, particularly for underage survivors.
  • "In our rush to do this, we have to protect these ladies. Others that were involved." (44:11, Crowder)
• Political Grandstanding: Notable quotes and behavior from Nancy Mace (who “walked off” a briefing, citing a panic attack) are lampooned for being self-centered.
  • “It always makes it about herself.” (45:25, Tim Pool)
• Victim List: Survivors discuss creating their own list of abusers, but nuance remains around the difference between “were in Epstein’s world” and direct abuse.
• Trump Responds: Trump refers to the controversy as the “Epstein hoax,” a label Crowder and co-hosts critique as unwise and potentially insensitive to actual victims.
  • “He’s handling it poorly by calling it the Epstein hoax.” (55:12, Tim Pool)

Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• “There are some very rich and powerful people that need to go to jail. ... Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence asset working for adversaries.” (43:40, Victim Rep)
• “The abuse was real. Well, he's not saying that the abuse didn't happen.” (55:33, Crowder explaining Trump’s comments)

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2. Trump’s Strike on Venezuelan Narco-Terrorists (24:16 – 38:58)

• Situation Overview: The U.S. military took out a Venezuelan cartel (TDA) vessel in the Caribbean, killing 11 narco-terrorists and destroying a large shipment of drugs.
• Crowder’s Support: The hosts are unequivocally supportive, dismissing concerns about sovereignty or the size of the drug shipment.
  • “The death of scummy drug traffickers backed by their government is definitely right there on that list.” (06:27, Crowder)
• Satirizing the Left: Crowder and guests mock those who minimized the operation as just “bombing a canoe” or “targeting innocent fishermen,” clarifying that the boat was a high-speed drug-running vessel, not a mere fishing boat.
  • “For a couple of bags of cocaine—we need 11 guys to escort a couple of grams.” (32:51, Crowder)
• Act of War Debate: They argue that drug trafficking becomes an act of war when backed by a nation-state like Venezuela.
  • “It is an act of war when it’s supported and backed by an official government. In this case, we see it with Maduro’s military.” (35:09, Crowder)
• Wider Context: The conversation links Latin America’s drug cartels to increased crime in U.S. cities, and castigates the left for being “soft” on such crime while upholding open-border policies.

Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• “TDA is a designated foreign terrorist organization operating under the control of Nicolas Maduro.” (25:51, Trump statement quoted by Crowder)
• “Shoot them. … The apprehension part, that's time consuming.” (33:18, Tim Pool)

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3. Urban Crime, Chicago & Gun Control Debate (08:58 – 23:32)

• Chicago Violence: Crowder highlights recent statistics of mass shootings in Chicago over Labor Day weekend, using it as a springboard for wider critiques.
  • “You pretty much have two mass shootings, the equivalent every weekend in Chicago.” (13:39, Crowder)
• National Guard Proposal: Trump’s intent to deploy the National Guard to Chicago is discussed, with Crowder claiming only “one side” (Republicans/Trump) offers real solutions.
• Critiquing Gun Control Policies: Host and guests are highly critical of strict gun laws, blaming them for disempowering potential victims and failing to curb actual violence.
  • “Let him shoot back. Sound reductive? ... Let the victims shoot back.” (11:21, Crowder)
• “Exported” Crime Myth: They refute claims that red states’ looser gun laws fuel Chicago’s violence, asserting that gun shows and interstate purchases are tightly regulated.

Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• “What is the solution? You may not like sending in the National Guard, but 58 people didn’t like being shot.” (16:59, Crowder)
• “Everything the left says about guns is a lie. ... There’s a gun show loophole. Lie.” (22:47, Crowder)

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4. Migrant Crime, Europe, and “Victims Shooting Back” (07:58 – 11:21)

• European Context: The panel mocks France’s struggles with violent crime amidst strict gun regulations, recounting a story where a knife-wielding attacker was stopped only by armed, undercover police officers.
• Argument for Armed Citizenry: They claim that stricter gun laws leave citizens defenseless, both abroad and in U.S. blue cities.

Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• “Kids understood war for a long. I think it’s good to see a bad man get shot because then you actually understand that there’s justice.” (09:02, Crowder)
• “If that is an American street ... there is, most likely ... someone with a gun. And that beats this guy with a knife.” (10:23, Crowder)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Don’t you think we’d know about it? Otherwise they wouldn’t have had to try and kill the guy, right? Just say, hey, he was a child rapist. Case closed.” (05:23, Crowder on Trump and Epstein)
• “We bombed a canoe. ... We can blow up Mexico too. I'm fine with that.” (28:06, Crowder, satirical)
• “Let them shoot back. Let the victims shoot back.” (11:21, Crowder)
• “[On Pam Bondi and Epstein files] She was disingenuous about all of it. … She may or may not be, and by that I mean strongly may be, compromised.” (55:08, Crowder)
• “[On Chicago gun laws] It’s an act of evil and you want to talk about oppression. Yes. A violation of fundamental human rights. Civil rights. It’s the right to protect yourself.” (19:46, Crowder)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• 00:01 – 06:47: Show intro, Bongino/Tim Pool shoutouts, overview of Epstein files controversy, Venezuela drug gangs, crime narratives
• 07:58 – 11:21: Satirical sketch on France’s crime & policing, argument in favor of armed civilians (“Let them shoot back”)
• 13:38 – 23:32: Chicago’s Labor Day weekend shootings, Trump’s statement on National Guard, systemic city violence, gun policy debate, media distortion of crime stats
• 24:16 – 38:58: Venezuela narco-terrorist strike, left-wing criticism mocked, trafficker’s government ties, drugs as acts of war
• 41:01 – 55:12: Return to Epstein files: media coverage, victim privacy, political reactions, survivors’ list
• 55:12 – 58:00: Trump comments, debate around “Epstein hoax,” panel’s take on political handling
• 58:00 – End: Wrap-up, joking banter, Mug Club promotions, segment transitions

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Overall Tone & Style

• Irreverent, fast-paced, sarcastic: Heavy use of humor, sketches, and wordplay mixed with rapid-fire commentary
• Politically combative: Clear right-leaning perspective; frequent attacks on “the left,” mainstream media, and Democratic politicians
• Occasional satire/parody

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Summary

This episode of “Louder with Crowder” delivers a rapid, comedic, and heavily opinionated rundown of new developments in the Epstein case, the Trump administration’s tough stance on Venezuela’s narco-terrorists, and rising crime in America’s cities. Crowder and panelists Tim Pool and Josh Firestein place the blame for much of the turmoil on left-wing policy choices, mock opponents for inconsistency, and reinforce the right to self-defense. In their view, media and Democrats are exploiting scandals for political gain while ignoring actual solutions.

Despite the headline-grabbing news, Crowder contends that there’s little new or damning in the Epstein files for Trump, and that strong action against criminals is both necessary and justified. The show closes with self-aware banter and an open call for audience engagement, never dropping its blend of sharp-edged humor and partisan critique.

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Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

Welcome to the lineup live here on rumble, 9am Eastern to 7pm Eastern. Announcements, by the way, coming soon, I think we'll be expanding that. Welcome Vince. Viewers, as I understand, of course, Bongino Army. Once Bongino, always Bongino Army. We welcome you in and after us will be Tim Poole. Today we're going to be. I don't know if you know this, there's some Epstein files dropped. Epstein files were dropped. Yeah, and I'm sure you're. There's not a whole lot there. Just to be clear, it's less than 1%. The left is using this as political football. This is a misstep. But it doesn't stop CNN from interviewing victims and wanting to say something about Ghislaine Maxwell and Donald Trump. Here's what we do know. There is nothing implicating President Trump of significance because if that would be the case, we would hear about it immediately. You don't trump up real estate charges if you've got the guy on child rape. Also, the left, just because they can't help themselves, they're really, really, really pro Venezuelan drug gangs. And by that I mean the administration of Venezuela, the government, Maduro, because they are one and the same. So they are terrorists. And this is an act of war, rightfully so. Speaking of war, Chicago, it's a war zone. But I don't know if you know this, the reason that Chicago has a higher murder rate than the rest of the country is, is actually the fault of the rest of the country. So your guns in Texas, your guns in Oklahoma, your guns in Indiana. That's actually the reason that only Chicago has more gun crime. Can you follow it? I hope you can. On with the show. And here we are at the bottom of the seventh. What a game it has been thus far. The bases are loaded, folks.

[Josh Firestein]

I got loaded last night after the bank called me.

[Steven Crowder]

Uh huh. Up to bat now is Babe Ruth. Wait, that's not a woman, is it?

[Josh Firestein]

No, no, it was a man who called me a woman at the bank.

[Steven Crowder]

Are you ludicrous? No, you imbecile. The player. Babe. It's saying right here, it's a man. Babe Ruth is in fact a man. Oh. They said due to the market crash, they're repossessing the house. There's the wind up the pitch and. Oh, doctor, it appears he hit the ball over the wall. That has got to be illegal.

[Josh Firestein]

That's what I said. But I guess all my stocks are worthless now and I'm dead broke.

[Steven Crowder]

No, not you, you imbecile. I meant that towering hit over the wall. We have to check the rule book here and see. We'll get back to you. Folks, that's never been done before. He'll likely get kicked out of the game for that kind of measure.

[Josh Firestein]

Just like I got kicked out of my home.

[Steven Crowder]

Will you stop making this about you, Chip? Your pathetic life. You're making everyone sad. What's this? Now they're talking. Hold on. Yes, I'm getting word. The umpires have talked it over. Now they're saying that that is in fact a legal hit over the walls. A legal hit. The batter and all three runners will score. Wow.

[Josh Firestein]

Everyone scorn but me these days.

[Steven Crowder]

They're calling it a home run.

[Josh Firestein]

After this game, I won't have a home to run to.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, you wouldn't be in this situation, Chip, if you'd have called American Financing like I've told told you, they've helped thousands of Americans. They never charge any upfront or hidden fees, so you don't have to worry about any curve balls. And you need to make better decisions.

[Josh Firestein]

Overall, Chip, that doesn't sound half bad.

[Steven Crowder]

And for you, half bads the best you're going to get. Here's the pitch and foul ball. Walk it off, Chip. We have a job to do. Call American financing today at 1-800-974-6500 or visit americanfinancing.net Crowder no upfront fees. Closing as fast as 10 days and you could even delay up to two mortgage payments. NMLS 182334 Glad to be with you. Really quickly. Is this live? Because the Epstein survivors were supposed to speak out at at 2 Eastern, but right now it's 11 Eastern. Can someone confirm? Is this live right now?

[Tim Pool]

It says live.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, let's see what they're saying. By the way, this is one of the Epstein accusers who has already spoken quite a bit and gone on a press tour. So I don't know if anything is new, but let's see Brad Edwards, Brittany.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

Henderson and Paul Cassell take on my case pro bono and fight fearlessly over.

[Steven Crowder]

Would have been funnier if it was Seymour Cassell.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

I would like to thank them. And I'd also like to ask the Trump administration to please sign off on the Crime Victims Rights Reformed Act. The Courtney Wild Crime Victims Rights Reformed Act. That's we're trying to get past here so we can close the loopholes in the cvr.

[Steven Crowder]

Put Nancy Mace's name on there. I'm sure she'll ask you to use.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

To their benefit to get. To get away with this. Thank you so much.

[Steven Crowder]

Can someone do me a favor? Mission control, can we confirm. Were they calling for this when Biden was president as well? I just want to make sure that I.

[Josh Firestein]

Not a peep.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no.

[Josh Firestein]

Maybe the victims.

[Tim Pool]

Maybe somebody was.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, maybe somebody was. You know what? Let's guys, let's watch this. Cover it and bring it to us if there's anything relevant because I know we have the Epstein segment later. And the reason I'm irritated is because you'll see CNN is using these victims to try and continually point to Donald Trump. Let me ask you if President Trump was implicated in the Epstein files, not that he took a flight locally. And I don't even believe it was Lolita Express. I don't want to misspeak or. Not that he reported Epstein to the authorities, not that Epstein showed up. Parties at Mars. We know all this. If he was implicated to the degree that Democrats want to imply, don't you believe you would have heard of it? Don't you think we'd know about it? Otherwise they wouldn't have had to try and kill the guy, right? Just say, hey, he was a child rapist. Case closed. Seems like the fastest path to victory for the left. But I don't know. That's just me. By the way, another question. How would you stop the Venezuelan drug traffickers or Venezuelan government? But I repeat myself. Would it be napalm? Would it be rifle fire? Or would you just. Would you use an old fashioned cannon to sink the boat? Spoiler alert. I don't care. I don't know how much less I can care about something. But the death of scummy drug traffickers backed by their government is definitely right there on that list.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Josh Firestein]

Did they try iceberg?

[Steven Crowder]

That would be a fun one. Yes.

[Josh Firestein]

It's worked in the past.

[Steven Crowder]

It would.

[Tim Pool]

It has.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

But it's hard.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't know what's happened. They say it's an unsinkable ship. I forgot my violin. Shit. All right. Captain Morgan. How are you, sir? I am well.

[Tim Pool]

How are you?

[Steven Crowder]

I'm doing fine.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, also, I'm not on the Epstein list and neither are you, so. Good.

[Josh Firestein]

That sounds like preemptive.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I don't want to put the horse before the turtle. Sure. And Friday, Saturday, September 26th and 27th at Cap City Comedy Club. Mr. Josh Firestein. Glad that you are with us.

[Josh Firestein]

Yes, me too. I'm dressed like Republican Shaggy.

[Steven Crowder]

Nice. Wait, Shaggy from Scooby Doo or Shaggy the.

[Josh Firestein]

No, he's from Scooby Doo.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, okay.

[Josh Firestein]

Republican.

[Steven Crowder]

Then.

[Josh Firestein]

They said I was on the list. It wasn't me.

[Tim Pool]

I hate you for that.

[Steven Crowder]

On Epstein Island. It wasn't me. That's all you wound up. Even had me in a portrait. It wasn't me. Just Clinton in a dress.

[Josh Firestein]

Hey, Elaine, you're my angel.

[Tim Pool]

We gotta get on this.

[Steven Crowder]

Don't bad mouth Jelaine. That woman's a saint. Go ahead, comment. Throw some wolfpape down. Hey, just in case you thought that everyone left in France was a. Not everybody. And by not everybody, I mean it seems everybody. Because they've been disarmed. Except for the undercover police officers. Here's a Tunisian man who had stabbed five people and I believe hit a couple of others. Finally being taken out, most funnily, in front of a Turkish restaurant. Yeah, I would shoot him now.

[Josh Firestein]

I think there's people behind them. Maybe get a good angle. Well, winning is symbol.

[Steven Crowder]

The only thing that would have made that funnier is if the French police, immediately before open firing, just said, be our gift, put lead poisoning to the test. What's a gun, mama? Just to be clear here, and I don't feel like that's not traumatizing. As a matter of fact, kids understood war for a long. I think it's good to see a bad man get shot because then you actually understand that there's justice. Just as surely as you know that there is evil, There needs to be good in this world. Unfortunately, only the undercover officers can do anything. So the people who were stabbed, well, this is why when people say, if it saves one life. Okay, how many people are stabbed? They have a knife problem, by the way. They still also have a gun violence problem, but they have a knifing problem. Well, only law enforcement in France can carry concealed. And 69% of robberies, all violent crimes. Sexual assaults on Paris public transport. Again, foreigners, foreign nationals. And 77% of rape cases in Paris. 77% committed by migrants is the term, I guess, that we use, right? Oui. Seems like where to start. How about, hey, if it saves one life? I'm sure the eight people who were stabbed, they're not big fans of it also. Just look at that and just look at the numbers. People say, what, you think you're gonna stop somebody with a gun? Yes.

[Tim Pool]

Yes, indeed.

[Josh Firestein]

Yes, absolutely.

[Steven Crowder]

If that is an American street, that crowded there is, most likely. Especially if it's in a red state, there's someone with a gun. And that beats this guy with a knife. Yep. I don't. You could have. You could have a little.22 revolver on you. Yeah. And it gives you a fighting chance. How about that?

[Josh Firestein]

I could get stabbed once, twice, maybe even three times before getting my first round off.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Josh Firestein]

So.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Or if you don't, the guy next to you.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

What? You know, the left will say, what kind of a society do we want to live in? Same thing. Yeah. What kind of a society do we want to live in? They point to Europe as a success story. Then again, these people also pointed to Cuba, also pointed to the ussr, also pointed to Venezuela as a success story. But now it's kind of like socialism, light as it collapses in Europe. So they point to it as, what kind of a society do you want to live in? You know what? I see what stands out to me most there? That man wasn't scared at all, including the cops. Maybe he was confused. Maybe he didn't know because they were undercover. That man had no regard for the idea, just the idea. It never crossed his mind that people can shoot back, by the way. Hey, Chicago, how about that? You want to give your citizens a fighting chance? Here's a novel idea. Let him shoot back. Sound reductive. Good comment below wouldn't. How about we start the shoot back campaign? Let them shoot back. Let the victims shoot back. Also, because I know there can be something lost in translation. They were clearly speaking French. And whatever godless language that man was speaking, we do have a spokesperson from the French police to help explain exactly what happened. Okay, maybe bring down the audience. Spokesperson there in French police, letting us know in detail. Jean Louis, thank you for taking the time here. No, no mimes. Toolman, did you know that it was going to be mime today? Yeah, I did a test call with him earlier. And what's my mime policy? No, no mimes. And what am I looking at? Mime. Good. Yeah. So you see the problem? You don't want to talk to him. Then at this point, you put me in a hard spot. So I guess let's. Let's see what he. John Louis, what do you have for us, sir? Okay. Badge. Yeah, I see. We already said that he's a bad. What did you see, Jean Louis? What did you see while you were there? Yes. No, see, this is the prop. Okay, I've seen enough, Tool Man. All right, we can do that. We can have that make a little more sense next time if it's not a mime. I thought he had it a lot. Speaking of lawlessness, Chicago. So this has been all over CNN and Legacy Media this morning, and they're all upset. They want to drum up some controversy over the idea. First off, let me establish. I should have set this down at the baseline. Labor Day weekend, 58 people were shot and eight people killed in Chicago.

[Josh Firestein]

Jeez.

[Steven Crowder]

You pretty much have two mass shootings, the equivalent every weekend in Chicago. By the way, that's not even including weekdays, business days. So that might be the reason that President Trump confirmed yesterday he does intend to go into Chicago with the National Guard. Make your mind up on Chicago, though.

[Donald Trump]

Well, we're going in. I didn't say when we're going in. When you lose. Look, I have an obligation. This isn't a political thing. I have an obligation. When we lose. When 20 people are killed over the last two and a half weeks and 75 are shot with bullets. If the Governor of Illinois would call.

[Tim Pool]

Crossbones.

[Donald Trump]

No, call me up, I would love to do it now. We're going to do it anyway. We have the right to do it because I have an obligation to protect this country.

[Steven Crowder]

Now, here's the thing, and this is where President Trump, whether you agree with the idea of him going into Chicago or not, Right? We said there's a difference between D.C. and Chicago. I understand that, but I want you to look at the dynamic here. There's only one side. One side even attempting to provide solutions. Do you guys see that difference? You guys see the difference? There isn't even this veneer. They don't even try to make you believe that they have any solutions in Illinois, In Chicago, theirs is, hey, you're just gonna keep dying. Here's Governor Pritzker pretty much saying just that. It's just a fact of life.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

You're going to hear people, especially this past weekend, 54 shot, seven dead.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

They're going to say the city's not safe. Would you ask your friends to ride the L after midnight or after, you.

[Steven Crowder]

Know, 9 o' clock at night even.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

To come down to the city from o'? Hare?

[Steven Crowder]

Look, big cities have crime. There's no doubt about it. But let's just pay attention to what President Trump is doing targeting Chicago. He's overlooking red states that have much higher crime rates. No, he's not. By the way, this is the thing. They say big cities have crime. Well, sure, but they don't have your crime. Just to be clear, this doesn't exist in a vacuum. You have the worst crime. You, dc, I believe Albuquerque is right up there. I believe the murder rate was it four times that of New York City. I'm going by rote here. Chicago is it four times New York City, two times Los Angeles. Or maybe swap it. So you can say big cities have crime, but not all big cities have your crime. Not currently and not historically. Your crime is worse. They're not answering the question. The question is, hey, why is crime so uniquely and notably bad in Chicago in comparison to other large cities? Your floor. Well, large cities have crime. No, no, no, no, no. Objection. That wasn't the question. Red states, sure, red states. But blue cities, Am I right? Every single one a blue city. What? Hey, we're not getting. What's the solution? What is the solution? You may not like sending in the National Guard, but 58 people didn't like being shot. Well, the mayor of Chicago, to give you some answers. Sorry, he just said it was President Trump's fault. Are you prepared to defend this land, this land that was built by slaves, a land that was built by indigenous people, a land that is built by. By workers? Are you prepared to defend this land?

[Tim Pool]

The people united will always prevail.

[Steven Crowder]

I need you all to stand firm, to stand strong. Yeah. So a couple of things that would seem like incitement, Right. If you're going to say. If you're going to say that, fight like hell. When Donald Trump said make your voices heard peacefully and patriotically and walk to the Capitol, that would sound like it. Here's the other thing. I think this is something that the left fails to realize in 2025. United, we're not united. Your own city is not united. You have plenty of people in your own city. The people you use, the minorities who are being killed in record numbers, they're not united. They wouldn't. You, you wouldn't have enough people if this actually came down to some kind of civil unrest to fight just, just other people in your state, let alone. Yeah. In your city, let alone, you know, the national. Let alone the rest of the country. You are not united. If we were all united like this country against tyranny, sure, you get the Boston Tea, Harbor, Chicago, you're not united. And as a country, we're not united. Our fight isn't with some foreign land. Isn't taxation without representation from a king. Our fight is with you. The enemy is within. Chicago, you're not united. Also, lowest approval of any mayor of a major city ever, at 6.6%.

[Josh Firestein]

What a bold thing to do. To have the lowest approval rating of any mayor in Chicago and then ask your people to defend this land.

[Steven Crowder]

United with me is 6.6. Well, shit, more gun control. Stand up to the federal government. More Gun control stand up to the federal government.

[Tim Pool]

Exactly. So really quickly, this is in light of them getting rid of. Do you guys remember shotspotter when we covered that?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

This miracle of a system that basically pinpoints down where a gunshot comes from with some ridiculous accuracy. I think it improved response time by police by some crazy number where they could actually get places where these gun crimes weren't being reported. People were just getting shot. Things were happening, and they got rid of it. They got rid of the thing. Like the actual solutions to the problem. It's not like they're opposed. Going back to your point, they're not just opposed to all the solutions that potentially could exist. They're opposed to solutions that do exist and that they have put in place because it makes them look bad.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, they'd rather spend that money investing in people.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Josh Firestein]

As Mayor Johnson would say, which I only assume is a guy in a beret walking around the streets going, hey, where's the. Would you hear that?

[Steven Crowder]

What is that?

[Josh Firestein]

Sounds like it was a few miles away.

[Steven Crowder]

And he was polled 6.6 times.

[Tim Pool]

Unbelievable.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm investing in you, even though only 6.6 of you apparently appreciate it. Where's my unique Unity piece of shit?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah, great pizza.

[Steven Crowder]

And by the way, I mean it.

[Josh Firestein]

Can't even agree on their pizza.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Stop.

[Josh Firestein]

Is it deep this, or is it Chicago style?

[Tim Pool]

Shut up.

[Steven Crowder]

What a piece of shit. I mean, what a piece of app. Hey, you're a woman in Chicago. Sorry. Can't use a gun. Hey, you're a perpetual victim. How many times have you been mugged? Sorry. Hey, you're some poor kid, by the way, who is actually trying to get out of the projects, who actually does not commit any crime. No, you can't legally carry. That's an act of evil. It's an act of evil and you want to talk about oppression. Yes. A violation of fundamental human rights. Civil rights. It's the right to protect yourself. People can't control the policy of your crappy city. They can control their own ability to defend them. It's the only thing they can control. You guys talk about bodily autonomy. How about the right to life just to not die because of your crappy policy? He went on to. There's another video, I don't think we have it here, where he said, we will continue to have a problem so long as red states have a gun control problem. Let me ask you this. Why then would we not see the rampant murder rate in said red states, Even the blue cities of the other red states, if it's the fault of those states because they have so many guns. Then why is it exclusively your city where you don't allow guns that you have the murder problem? By the way, admonish me. I said four times. I was going by memory. Apparently, it's five times the murder rate of New York and Los Angeles. Five times. We try and get it right. Check the references. I appreciate that you guys call me on it. No, don't go down with the ship. How did I go down the ship?

[Tim Pool]

I was the one that helped correct the problem.

[Steven Crowder]

Take care of the boss.

[Tim Pool]

Son of a.

[Steven Crowder]

So let's look at. Let's look at the. Okay, common denominator. All right? Okay. Red states have guns. Okay, great. Chicago has gun control. Strict, strict. Strictest in the country. Chicago has rampant gun crime. The places that don't have gun control don't have rampant gun crime. What's the difference, guys? Let the victims shoot back. Since you've not done it that way for decades, let's try that way. Maybe then you'll have the same results, which would at least be better as those evil red states. And this is a tired old trope. Barack Obama, when mass shootings were taking place and people asked him about Chicago. You can go and watch this video. I think it's still on YouTube. In 2016, I went to the specific gun show that Barack Obama vilified in Crown Point, Indiana, where he said gun. The gun show loophole. They go down to Crown Point, Indiana, and they bring them into Chicago, even though they don't have the same gun crime over there. Hey, see what happened when I tried to use that gun show loophole to just get one off the books. I was told that I could go to a gun show and there would be no background check. So there would need to be a background check. That's a problem. I was told by the president that I could go here. Believe him. That's a felony and 20 years, and I'm not gonna mess with it.

[Josh Firestein]

I like the guy just laughing at you.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, like, no, sir, not a single one. It's just everything the left says about guns is a lie. That it's the number. It's the number one killer of kids. Lie. That you're more likely to have your gun used against you if you have. Lie that the reason for gun crime in Chicago is because it's coming in from other states. Lie. Anyone can go and buy a gun. It's easier. Lie. There's a gun show loophole. Lie. None of it is true. If you have someone in your life who has not purchased a firearm legally yet. Take them to a range, take them to a gun shop and do so. None of these lies will ever work again. It's that simple. Also simplest way to follow me. Download the Rumple app. Follow me there. Rumple. Rumple. Rumpelstiltskin.

[Josh Firestein]

The Rumpelstill app.

[Steven Crowder]

Download the Rumble app. Follow me there. Don't be beholden to some other big tech algorithm. You know, when we are live. And just so you know, in case you don't Download the app. 11am on weekdays. Not the week. Business days. You know, the days when there's slightly fewer shootings business in Chicago.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, you got to take care of business.

[Steven Crowder]

I do. Speaking of which.

[Josh Firestein]

But guns are not the number one killer of kids. No, this country, moms are.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep, that's a good point. Yeah. I also heard swimming pools. Oh, gee. Well, that's not true either. Speaking of business, bitness going pick up shortly because killing drug dealers is my business. It is. And business is good. Monday, the Venezuela. And it's amazing to me that the left is losing their mind over this.

[Tim Pool]

I know. This brings me joy. Yeah, I see this and I'm like, yes.

[Steven Crowder]

I mean, at a certain point we can talk about the constitutional authority and this is officially a terror organization. Whatever. Whatever. These are drug dealers on boats trying to bring these drugs to the United States who are backed by a socialist government, one that Sean Penn and Oliver Stone supported, by the way. And we stopped them. How is that anything other than a win? Even funnier. The president of Venezuela, Maduro threatened President Trump for his provocations. Let's watch.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

Venezuela's president has a warning for the United States.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, no. You mess with our country, you're messing with all of South America. I'm fine with it. Amid the buildup of Argentina's like, what? In the Caribbean. A few moments later tonight, the White House releasing this dramatic video of the US Blowing up a boat in the southern Caribbean. President Trump says it was carrying drugs in Venezuela and that the strike killed 11 members of the notorious gang Trinidad. Or TDA. Trend or TDA. Yeah, let's just go with TDA. First off, like you said, I don't believe that it's all of South America because you can't get them to agree on anything. If the Chileans supported Venezuela, the Peruvians would be against it and vice versa. And if you somehow got them to agree, then Argentina would put a stop to it and say, our women are hotter, so shut up.

[Josh Firestein]

They can't even agree on what Language to speak.

[Steven Crowder]

No, they can't agree on it.

[Josh Firestein]

Or what to call an empanada.

[Steven Crowder]

Right, Right. Even then. Okay, if it's all of South America.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

I'm fine with it.

[Steven Crowder]

If all of South America feels so entitled to ship their drugs here, guess what? International waters. It's now our waters. How about that? We're going to gain a lot of states. Yeah. So President Trump posted this alongside that video on Truth. He said earlier this morning, on my orders, US military forces conducted a kinetic strike against positively identified Tren de Arawa narco terrorists in the southcom area of responsibility. The southcom area, not the North. TDA is a designated foreign terrorist organization operating under the control of Nicolas Maduro. Don't like him. Responsible for mass murder, drug trafficking, sex trafficking, and acts of violence and terror across the United States and Western hemisphere. The strike occurred while the terrorists were at sea in international waters, transporting illegal narcotics heading to the usa. Please let this serve as notice to anybody even thinking about bringing drugs into the United States of America. Beware. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[Tim Pool]

And 11 exclamation points.

[Steven Crowder]

11 exclamation points.

[Tim Pool]

We counted.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. And to drive the point home with the more boomer base, the White House also released this on social. Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale. A tale of cartel punks. They left from a Venezuelan port.

[Josh Firestein]

And then they got blown up. And then they got blown up.

[Steven Crowder]

See, it's fun. It's fun because they're drug dealers. It's a short story.

[Tim Pool]

It's one of those short films.

[Steven Crowder]

And by the way, I love how, like, you'll get the libertarian. You want to put black tar heroin in your own body. I don't care. We're talking about drug dealers. We're talking about. That's not the only thing they do. I guarantee you they're also trafficking people. Okay? These are bad people. They're terrorists. And they are backed by their government. Which brings us to some of the claims you will hear from the left. Here's the first claim. I can't believe anyone bought this, but some of you did. That. These were just fishermen in a canoe. This comes from Jeff Carlson, I guess, on X, who's quite popular. Says, we bombed a canoe. Meanwhile, Mexico is running submarines into our country and establishing major drug labs in Canada. We can blow up Mexico, too. I'm fine with that.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good idea.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, good idea. Oh, wait, that's right. You want us to open borders. Hey, hold on a second. Do you guys start seeing how they have no solutions. If we deal with the Mexican border, if we deal with our southern border, we're racist. If we take out drug dealers in Venezuela. Well, why aren't you guys doing anything about Mexico? Well, we just did. But you bitched about it.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah. So Trump has, has officially got the Democrats to support and defend crime ridden blue cities and now drug dealers and narco terrorists. Meanwhile, hate d chess.

[Steven Crowder]

Meanwhile, Mexico is running submarines into our country and establishing. Yeah, Trump respond. They're doing that. We should. We'll blow them up too. Thank you for drawing my attention to this Mexican matter.

[Tim Pool]

Hey, no, no, no, listen, don't get admonished again. Canada's the prize here. Yeah, they're doing the drug labs in Canada. We can now take Canada.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, Stephen, take Canada. I have no problem with it.

[Josh Firestein]

Leave it.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's the truth, okay? The Klamath don't want a canoe. It's not a canoe. It's what's known as a picuta or a go fast boat.

[Tim Pool]

Very descriptive.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. It's powered by outboard motors that costs many tens of thousands of dollars in some instances can travel up to 40 knots. That's 46 miles per hour. But here's, here's another point. Canoes are actually used in 10% of Venezuelan smuggling operations. So I'd be totally fine with blowing up a canoe. Also, they do it all the time. Even though they are notoriously unstable water vehicles and require some quite careful training. Why are you in charge? I know how to run cocaine. Oh, then you know how to not spear cocaine. Don't spear cocaine. Don't spear. Going to kill you. Now show me. Cook on a fingernail, Snort in, breathe.

[Josh Firestein]

Out, snot in, snort in, get a greater business brand.

[Steven Crowder]

Wipe gum, clean the floor all night.

[Josh Firestein]

You know, it's crazy that these people, they make this claim. I've seen it online this morning from quite a few people that, you know, these are just a couple fishermen in the canoe. How do you know they're drug runners? How do you know they're smugglers and traffickers? What an embarrassing misunderstanding of the Intelligence Reconnaissance Community. Yeah, I know that the capabilities of the United States, our satellites, all of our ISR. You know, the birds up in the ski, 30,000ft up in the air that can see you picking your nose.

[Steven Crowder]

Right?

[Josh Firestein]

They know who these people are by name. Probably have their phone numbers, been tracking their phones, known their location. Knew when they cross the international waters, Knew everything. Know what's on the boat. We're watching them load the boat like it is so embarrassing. People out there who don't understand this and then go out there and confidently go, you don't know who they were, man.

[Steven Crowder]

They could have been innocent.

[Josh Firestein]

Bullshit. You just expose yourself.

[Steven Crowder]

They didn't even know that drugs run in canoes all the time. Time. Yes. How do you think they got that? Stat.

[Josh Firestein]

They've been surveilling this for decades.

[Steven Crowder]

I know, I know. It's. It's insane. I just.

[Tim Pool]

I just had this image of them, like, texting them right before. Hey, look up.

[Steven Crowder]

What?

[Tim Pool]

Like, you got to have some fun with it, right?

[Josh Firestein]

No, that's the best part about it, because they don't even know it's coming.

[Steven Crowder]

No.

[Josh Firestein]

They don't even hear it. They just die.

[Steven Crowder]

I just don't care.

[Tim Pool]

Do it more. All of them, all the planes, all the boats.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's the next claim that they make. And it's almost like they just hate America. This comes from Caroline Wren, that the boat. The boat only had a few drugs at most. She wrote. So the United States was a couple of J's. Yeah. Just.

[Josh Firestein]

Just a couple boys, and they're blunt.

[Steven Crowder]

It was just a couple of gummies.

[Donald Trump]

They like to.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, yeah, we all do that. We all take a couple cbd.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Go out to sea, a little bit of cbd, and then you blow up a canoe.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

It just had five fentanyls.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. C. Rose.

[Josh Firestein]

She was a couple of morphine drips. It wasn't a big deal.

[Steven Crowder]

So the United States Navy sent 4,000 service members and eight U.S. warships to the Caribbean to blow up a defenseless fishing boat. Oh, fuck off. I'm just saying. Defenseless fishing boat that had 11 Venezuelans on it and a couple of bags of drugs. Is that what I just watched? No, you're a stupid person. Because the truth is, these boats weren't just carrying a couple bags of cocaine. They were carrying, in many cases, I don't know these specific vessels, but very often more than three tons of cocaine.

[Tim Pool]

Wow.

[Steven Crowder]

That's three tons of cocaine? Sometimes.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

In this case, at least hundreds of pounds of cocaine.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah. For some reason, they had 11 guys.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Yeah. For a couple of bags of cocaine.

[Josh Firestein]

We need 11 guys to escort a couple of grams.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. We need the equivalent to two teams of pallbearers for two baggies of cocaine.

[Josh Firestein]

We need a whole offensive football team.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Which. Well, I don't believe it. Must be hard to fit them in a canoe. Yeah, but you're retarded. Here's another example, just so you guys know, a Dutch Caribbean coast guard air crew, they they actually caught five Venezuelan smugglers with 6,220 pounds of cocaine. So that's just one example for you.

[Tim Pool]

Shoot them.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's the. Yep, kill them. Make them dead. You don't have to.

[Tim Pool]

So the apprehension part, that's time consuming. It takes effort, energy, and I mean, seas can be kind of rough. You don't want to mess around, just.

[Steven Crowder]

You know, from a distance. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

And then move on to the next one.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, they weren't just sent. They didn't send all 4,000 troops in these. These warships.

[Steven Crowder]

I know.

[Josh Firestein]

Just for the one boat.

[Steven Crowder]

Boat.

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

And it wasn't just a fishing boat, dude. Aircraft carriers. Technically, you can fish off it.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, you can.

[Tim Pool]

You could.

[Josh Firestein]

Every boat's a fishing boat.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I think you can fish off.

[Tim Pool]

There depending on the size of your pole.

[Steven Crowder]

I could picture Tucker Carlson with his fly fishing vest. We did at the same time.

[Josh Firestein]

I missed that scene of Top Gun.

[Steven Crowder]

It's weird because the fish aren't. Aren't biting. All right, so the next claim. Don't want to bite. It's a free country.

[Tim Pool]

Goose.

[Steven Crowder]

And this is. This is the crux of. This is. The crux of this here is that this drug trafficking isn't an act of war. This comes from Kenneth Roth, who wrote, drug trafficking is a crime, but not an act of war. Careful, stupid. Don't let this tin can I'm about to kick hit you in the teeth. Traffickers must be arrested, not summarily executed. Disagree. Which US forces just illegally did. So many loaded words, you'd think you were code pink. Here's the truth. Drug trafficking. You may be right in that context, but let me explain. It is an act of war when it's supported and backed by an official government. In this case, we see it with Maduro's military. There were leaked Colombian documents that showed Maduro's military was actively supporting. And they were expressly commanded to do so, or directed to do so, support the drug trafficking. And a big reason for that is because there's less oil revenue coming into Venezuela, which, by the way, Venezuela should be paradise if socialism worked. Venezuela has all the resources, fertile land, and they have unfettered socialism.

[Josh Firestein]

Why does that look like Dubai? Yeah, it should look like Dubai. It should look like Qatar.

[Steven Crowder]

So when there was less revenue because the United States said, no, no, we're not going to be. We're not going to be taking part in this. This, this blood, oil, basically. Remember that was a term you guys use leftists for a long time now, blood for oil. So they said well, let's start making some more money off of narcotics. So here's another example for you or more proof. 2019, Venezuela's Minister of Defense was indicted in the US for drug trafficking. Well, still the Minister of defense, by the way. Oh, just to be clear. Yeah. And because it's the tda, they've been designated a terrorist group, I believe. Actually this was 2025. In February, the Sinaloa Cartel, Ms. 13 TDA. They were designated as terrorist groups because they were in many ways, or sometimes acting with coordination from their government. Also, in case you guys care about this country and you believe in putting America first, are you listening? Libertarians. Their biggest exports, tda, cocaine. And tusi, I guess, is the other drug, it's called. It kills tens of thousands.

[Josh Firestein]

I think that's tushy.

[Steven Crowder]

Is it? No, I don't think they're gonna take us out. These bidets are going to be way too high pressure.

[Josh Firestein]

Take a look at my tush.

[Steven Crowder]

10,000.

[Tim Pool]

Geez.

[Steven Crowder]

At least tens. Ten. Well, sorry, tens of thousands. I should say. The idea of how many deaths, it's kind of tough to gauge because some drugs are laced. I understand that, but the stimulant related deaths in 2023 were 59,000. Also, you should note that these drugs make up 10% of the GDP of Venezuela. 10%. Also, just in case you wonder, hey, does this.

[Josh Firestein]

Ha.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, I don't know if you remember that taking over of an apartment complex in Colorado. Remember in Aurora? In Aurora, Colorado. Yeah. It was tda. Yeah. So I repeat myself, kill them all.

[Tim Pool]

Yes. They're backed by the foreign government. The military is working on these guys. Trump said they're a terrorist organization. You don't like that, take it up with the Obama administration ruling in 2010 from a D.C. court that we never went in.

[Steven Crowder]

Right. But basically said the President. Yeah, the President can kill him.

[Tim Pool]

He just blow him out of the water. And Congress never passed a law, so go screw yourself.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, just think about it. Yeah. And if you add this up, you look at Chicago. No, you can't own guns. You look at catch and release. You look at the bail programs, the no cash bail programs. You look at the rampant crime in these cities, you look at 150 to 450 billion dollars a year illegal aliens cost the American taxpayer. You look at Abrego Garcia, this poor guy, he should stay here. The guy was an MS.13 gang member. Then you look at yesterday, a corporate court blocked President Trump from using the Alien Enemies act to rapidly deport specifically TDA members. And then you look at them complaining and lying about the blowing up of a TDA run boat, trying to represent it as nothing more than a canoe. And you go, wait a second. Does the left ever line up with the American people ever? Also, let me ask you this. If you're soft on TDA, if you're soft on MS.13, do you think you're more or less likely to end up with increased human trafficking? You know, the outrage of the day as it relates to Epstein? But there's over 50. There are over 50 million slaves on Earth right now today. Most of them are human. Most of them are human sex slaves. To be clear, they operate with open borders. You know, this whole open societies, internationalism, globalism. That's what has allowed them to thrive. That's why there's more now than ever before. Fewer checkpoints. That means more human trafficking. So we're outraged when it happens with EP energy. We should be. But why do you always left? Why do you always fight us creating an environment where at least we can make it tougher on sex traffickers? Why do you defend TDA? Why do you defend members of MS.13?

[Josh Firestein]

Because that's their culture.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, that's their culture.

[Josh Firestein]

It's okay when their culture does it. It's their culture when a white American does it.

[Steven Crowder]

Think about it for a second.

[Josh Firestein]

That's when it's bad.

[Steven Crowder]

It's not that much of a leap to go. Well, yeah, of course you support Drag Queen Story Hour, which, by the way, these drag queens only do story hours for kids. They're never volunteering at Shriners or whatever. It's just kids they love being around. Well, yeah, of course you would support the grooming of children because you're the same party who supports soft on human sex traffickers like TDA and MS.13 and open borders. Well, makes sense if I happen to be Satan and I was like, okay, what can I do to trick people into just ensuring that more women have their souls shattered and are sold into sex slavery? But I need to do it in a way so that people don't realize they're creating more sex lives. Oh, I know. I'll disguise it as empathy for gang members. Hope you enjoy your white privilege. Also, by the way, before we get to Epstein, because there's. There's some updates going on right now. We're letting you know it is that time. We're going to be doing some gifted subs. It's time to open it up right now. So if you are not a member of Rumble Premium Mug Club, is Rumble Premium. Rumble Premium is mug club. You can join $99 a year if you want the mug or for just $9 a month. And anyone watching right now, so many of you gave them out last week, gift a sub, click that button. You can gift a subscription so someone can try it out for a month. And anyone who gifts a subscription in the next 10 minutes, I'm going to read all of your names before we head out to Rumble Premium later. So starting now, it is 11:41. 10 minutes. Next 10 minutes. Any subs gifted. Sorry, I can't really offer much more than reading your name. I can't send you guys a bunch of stuff because I wouldn't have time.

[Tim Pool]

I don't have any back hair left, so. Yeah, I know locks of back hair.

[Steven Crowder]

And your wife is furious.

[Tim Pool]

Very mad.

[Steven Crowder]

She likes to play lawn darts on your back.

[Tim Pool]

Velcro version, within reason.

[Josh Firestein]

They played it on mxc.

[Steven Crowder]

I think they call it a fly wall. Is that what it is? Flywheel?

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, the fly wall they played on mxc. It was great.

[Steven Crowder]

So let's go to this Epstein right now because people are talking about it. Hey, do you think there's Anything new? Sorry, 33,000 files, but, you know, not really a whole lot there. But don't take it from me. Here's the gay on CNN.

[Josh Firestein]

The House Oversight Committee tonight making more than 33,000 pages of the Jeffrey Epstein case records public. CNN has them. We've been going through them as we speak. So far we've determined that they contain flight logs and court filings and surveillance footage. Now, there's reason to believe these are the materials the panel received from the Justice Department a little more than a week ago, which you'll remember, Democratic Committee member Ro Khanna said was just a fraction of what the DOJ actually has.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, so this thing has been mishandled. I understand that from the start. You know, I'm certainly no fan of Pam Bondi. My issue with Pam Bondi was the, I guess the lies, you know, it's on my desk and I can't believe what I saw. And it's disgusting. And then it turns out that she didn't. But the left feigning outrage right now. I mean, come on. It's disingenuous. This is the party that supports TDA and Ms. 13 and drag queen Story Hour, as we discussed. And there really wasn't a whole lot of pushing for this while Joe Biden was president. And we know from the flight logs that have been public, we know that the Clintons, of course, are implicated. We know that there are plenty of people on the left and I'm sure some people on the right as well. As far as these new files, though, there's not a whole lot new. There are new flight logs, but there are no passenger names, even though other public flight logs from a while ago did. There was a missing minute of jail footage, which turns out, you know, there's not a whole lot there. That's why you've not heard us make a big deal about that. So I would kind of check a box for any conspiracy theorists who told you about that missing minute of footage and had you believe something that didn't exist and go, oh, that's someone not to trust anymore. There was some police body cam, some victim interviews. We still have less than 1 1% of all the files and information, by the way. Well, less than 1% has been turned over to the Oversight Committee, to be clear. Now, here's what I do want you to see. I did notice in sort of watching, scanning through the reactions from people in this committee, seems like there's something there that's pretty big. When they were listening to the actual victims, Right. So the Oversight Committee, they had the opportunity to listen to some victims and they came out going like, yeah, it seems like some people up there are being protected and we need to do something about this. It seems like they were pretty shocked. And then I want to contrast that with the Democrats who were also there. Again, if someone at the top is being protected, wouldn't you think that President Trump would be named? So here is just a montage of the Republican reactions, as well as Nancy Mace making it about her.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

There are some very rich and powerful people that need to go to jail. I think everyone's been frustrated as to why that hasn't happened before, but it is very much so a possibility that Jeffrey Epstein was a intelligence asset working for adversaries.

[Donald Trump]

We subpoenaed six former attorneys general, as.

[Steven Crowder]

Well as Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. This was a two and a half hour discussion. It was as bipartisan as anything I've seen in the nine years I've been here.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

The victims want information to be out there, but they don't want their personal information. I think for good reason to be.

[Steven Crowder]

Out there, we gotta rethink the whole files thing. Apparently there's some files that they don't want out. So I've said all I need to protect these young ladies, whether, ladies, there's.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

Victim information that you have to make sure that's private. Being that some of the victims Also.

[Steven Crowder]

Too, are as young as 14. That's child. Child pornography. In our rush to do this, we have to protect these ladies. Others that were involved. So a lot of people voiced concern and talked about wanting to release the files. You know, Mace walked off and I believe she claimed had a panic attack. She wrote online right after. Yes. I left the oversight briefing with Epstein victims early as a recent survivor. Not two years in. Confuses me because she says. She said that she was raped at 16. Yeah. I don't believe she's 18. That's more recent. But not two years. In confusing language. Yeah. Was there a police report filed on that one?

[Tim Pool]

I don't know that there was a.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay. Just. Just the refrigerator camera footage of her in a room. Okay. The recent one. I had a very difficult time listening to their stories. Full blown panic attack. Sweating, hyperventilating, shaking. I don't even want to give this any more attention. It's just always makes it.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

About herself. Let's say.

[Tim Pool]

Let's say that everything that she says is true. Let's say that 100% of every word that she says was true. Yes. I left that meeting. It was really hard to sit through that period. Done. End of story, end of statement. You made it about yourself.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Josh Firestein]

I understand how it's.

[Tim Pool]

Now you made it about yourself. That's why people are pissed off at you. Not that you lied. Maybe you lied, maybe you didn't. You made it about yourself.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Josh Firestein]

Obviously, I understand how you can't sit through it when you can just go out there and talk about your own experience.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

All day long.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

Every day, especially.

[Steven Crowder]

It's almost like your duty would be. If that's the case.

[Josh Firestein]

I feel like your duty is to stay in there and to. Yeah. Help the victims.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. That's.

[Josh Firestein]

And it may be hard to do, but sometimes you got to do the hard thing.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Sometimes your duty requires you doing the hard right thing. So they were. It seemed pretty clear to me that people are concerned behind the scenes saying, yeah, this, this. This goes up pretty high. So, of course, the speculation's been that, see, they're trying to protect their boy, Donald Trump. Well, let me present to you Ayanna Pressley, who, as I understand it, was there. And if there was any evidence that Donald Trump had done anything, had been involved with Epstein beyond actually cooperating with authorities to report him as a creep, wouldn't that be the first thing out of Ayanna Pressley's mouth? Instead, this.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

What we heard here today was harrowing, and it is proof of what has been an institutional, systemic betrayal for decades. Jeffrey Epstein is dead, but his hurt and his harm is alive and well in the daily experiences of these survivors. Maxwell is incarcerated, but it is these survivors, these victims who are still very much in jail. We will not shield powerful abusers. They must be taken into account. And that cannot happen if we are not centering and prioritizing the voices of survivors. And the entire public needs to understand just how systemic and how far. How far and wide and how deep this institutional betrayal goes.

[Steven Crowder]

Far, wide and deep. I can't believe that that involves President Trump. And you wouldn't mention it. She also, by the way, went on to say this. Embrace me as her king and as her God. I won't.

[Tim Pool]

I don't know. I will not either.

[Josh Firestein]

You know, at that same conference, there's four other Democrats that spoke, too.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

Anything either.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no one said anything. I mean, you wouldn't have to. You wouldn't have to charge the guy with paying back a loan that the bank was happy about.

[Tim Pool]

I know.

[Steven Crowder]

If he was a rapist or a child molester. By the way, I think the file should be released. I always have. Just like Donald Trump Jr. On this very show believed. Just like everyone on the right believed when he was. I think it's a misstep, but it's very clear that the left now is trying to use this to go, ah, see, there must be something there. They try and say that Donald Trump is distracting you from the Epstein story, you know, by focusing on inflation, by focusing on employment, by focusing on securing the border, by focusing on taking out drug cartels. All those are the distractions because he doesn't want you to see what's going on with the Epstein files, where he undoubtedly had no significant involvement. And just to show you how much the left will use victims when convenient, here's CNN trying to cajole the victims, who, by the way, have already done their press tours. This was just this morning. By the way, isn't Trump somehow implicated asking them questions? Just because you're a survivor doesn't mean that you have all of the information. There's no way they could possibly answer these questions accurately. Which is the very reason for the leading question about President Trump. Do any of you have any doubt.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

About Ghislaine Maxwell's role in Epstein's crimes? Absolutely not.

[Steven Crowder]

Absolutely not.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

She kind of fawned over President Trump, the exact manipulation that she did to her victims. Why do you think she said those things about President Trump? Because she wants the pardon. The Fact that she's even got changed prisons. I mean, she should be in the worst prison in the United States.

[Steven Crowder]

Now, let me put this in context. Those women never met Maxwell. They never had any interaction with her. And as I understand it, none of them had any significant interactions. If any interactions with Donald Trump. You guys can correct me if I'm mistaken, but I know for certain no interactions with Maxwell. So hold on a second. So you've never met Maxwell. I'll do the job of a CNN reporter. You've never met Maxwell. Why do you think the lady you've never met who you know nothing about would say that another man you've never met had nothing to do with your sexual abuse? Because she must be lying and he must have. I think that's journalism. I must be missing something. That's journalism. Do we have another clip from earlier today when they do?

[Tim Pool]

So we have a clip from the press conference. Apparently the victims are saying that they have their own list because of the people that they were in contact with or people that were in the room or that abused them or something like that. And they might be releasing that.

[Steven Crowder]

Great. I hope so. Okay, let's see the clip.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

Transparency is justice. Release the files and the secrecy. And stand with us in declaring that no one, no billionaires, no politicians, not world leaders, is above the law.

[Steven Crowder]

Good. That means close the border. I agree.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

And let me announce now, several of us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our own list of names.

[Steven Crowder]

Let's say they don't have it. They're going to create it now.

[Josh Firestein]

Going to create it now.

[Steven Crowder]

Memory.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

Many of us were abused by them. Now, together as survivors, we will confidentially compile the names. We all know we're regularly in the Epstein world.

[Tim Pool]

Hold on.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

And it will be done by survivors.

[Steven Crowder]

And forced survivors regularly involved in the Epstein world. That's a little different from I was raped by X.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

For more details on that.

[Steven Crowder]

I was sexually assaulted by Y is washing.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

And so are the women who will come after us. Thank you.

[Tim Pool]

So there was a quote that was not in there. Excuse me. That they sent me that highlights what you just said. So he bragged about his powerful friends, including current President Donald Trump. It was his biggest brag, actually.

[Steven Crowder]

So there is a second clip.

[Tim Pool]

That's okay. I don't need it. Y' all are fine. I'm just making the point here, the way that that is phrased. Yeah, he bragged about powerful friends. Okay, fine. He's also claimed to be President Donald Trump's friend in the past. We are. We know What Donald Trump did in regard to him. Cooperated with the FBI. Very quickly, the lawyer of one of the victims spoke out and actually said, Donald Trump was sorry. Cooperated with that lawyer to make sure that he got information to him to help in any way that he could. Kicked him out of Mar A Lago. They ran in the same circles in New York City. And so now you're like. Because. So listen, I want a list to come out. I want people to be held to account. But again, I'll go back to this. I said this to Nancy Mace when she named this person that we talked about last time. Why does it help to name this person? Let the legal process play out. I want the legal pro. I want these people to have to go before somebody, and I want somebody like Thomas Massie in the room to go, yeah, the legal process is playing out. I don't agree with all the Thomas.

[Steven Crowder]

I understand if they're disenchanted with the legal process, but I get it. It makes me think, again, disingenuous. When you go and he bragged that he was friends with Donald Trump. Hey, hold on a second, guys. Can we stop playing the high school bullshit? It was a pedophile sex ring with a sex island. Can we name the. Let's start with the people who raped you.

[Tim Pool]

Trump's apparently saying something.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, let's hear what he has to say right now. Please don't misstep.

[Donald Trump]

We still do all run by Democrats or for the most part, run by Democrats. So what they're trying to do with the Epstein hoax is get people to talk about that instead of speaking about the tremendous success, like ending seven wars. I ended seven wars. Nobody's going to talk about because they're going to talk about the Epstein. Whatever. I understand that we were subpoenaed to give files, and I understand we've given thousands of pages of files. And I know that no matter what you do do, it's going to keep going. And I think it's. I think, really, I think it's enough because I think we should talk about the greatness of our country and the success that we're having. I think we're probably having, according to what I read, even from two people in this room, we're having the most successful eight months of any president ever. And that's what I want to talk about. That's what we should be talking about. Not the Epstein hoax.

[Steven Crowder]

Is that what he's trying to coin now? The Epstein hoax? That's not.

[Josh Firestein]

He's got to stop calling it that.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, because it happened. People were raped.

[Donald Trump]

We know to President Putin. He knows where I stand, and he'll make a decision one way or the other.

[Tim Pool]

Whatever his decision, it looks like he's moving on to Putin, but still says.

[Steven Crowder]

Trump on Epstein's case, unhappy about it.

[Donald Trump]

You'll see things happen.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. This is one of those things where. This is where I think, hey, appointing the right people would have made this a lot easier for him. I think that. Look, I don't know why he likes Pam Bondi. She really hung him out to dry. Pam Bondi, I will tell you this. I don't like Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi hung him out to dry by inviting a bunch of influencers to show up with files that were already public that she didn't review. And she went on air and said, these things will horrify you, whatever the exact quote is. And she was disingenuous about all of it. She was making how many dozens of appearances on Fox News instead of doing her job. And I think that he probably trusted that she was doing her job. And it seems like for. For whatever reason, she may or may not be, and by that I mean strongly may be compromised. And so now he's been put in this position. I don't believe that Donald Trump had a problem with the Epstein because he was constantly. His whole family on this show, they were pushing for the release of the files. I do think that now he's going, well, what, what, what can we. What can we release? And they're saying, well, we can't release this because this has to be redacted. He's going, oh, I got egg on my face here. I think that they put him in a shitty situation. I think he's handling it poorly.

[Tim Pool]

He's handling it poorly. Poorly by calling it the Epstein hoax. We've defined this before, guys, but most people don't realize what he's saying. He's saying the hoax is that he was involved molesting and sexually abusing somebody. That's the hoax. And what they're running with right now is Trump says case is democratic hoax, minutes after survivors say this is not a hoax. The abuse was real. Well, he's not saying that the abuse didn't happen.

[Steven Crowder]

He didn't say it.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, but he's handing it to them on a platter.

[Tim Pool]

100% with you, Josh.

[Steven Crowder]

They'll do it anyway.

[Josh Firestein]

They're salivating at the very thigh.

[Steven Crowder]

I hope.

[Josh Firestein]

I hope he calls it a hoax again, right?

[Tim Pool]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

I mean, people try to do it when I Said the AIDS epidemic hoax. And the very first phrases. I said, look, of course AIDS is a thing, but the idea that it was an epidemic that would kill one in five members of heterosexual relationships, that. That was a hoax. The idea that you were at risk.

[Tim Pool]

Right.

[Steven Crowder]

It's a pretty easy cure for aids, actually. Don't be gay.

[Tim Pool]

Is there a pill for that?

[Steven Crowder]

Pretty much.

[Josh Firestein]

Or blow jobs only?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, pretty much. That could also be. That's, you know, that's like. It's off label.

[Josh Firestein]

But what are the chances of the.

[Steven Crowder]

Survivors who are making their list right now putting Trump's name on it?

[Tim Pool]

Of course.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, they just did. They said Epstein said that he was friends with Trump. Okay. I can tell you I'm friends with Scott Eastwood.

[Josh Firestein]

I will say if.

[Steven Crowder]

By the way, Scott Eastwood is awesome. He's my best friend.

[Josh Firestein]

If any one of these victims were inclined to exaggerate or stretch the truth or misremember something which happens sometimes, I would say going on national television and calling it a hoax and saying it should go away is probably not gonna. It's probably not gonna help. That's not gonna make them.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Every time he addresses it, he should say, look, I push for the release of these files. There are people who are handling this. Of course, you well know that I was the one who blew the whistle on Epstein and cooperated with authorities. He's a creep. The moment I found out what he was, I did everything I could to help put him away, and I hope that justice is served. He should at least keep driving that point home. But he just keeps saying, you know, I get it. I get him. It is a hoax. Just like if I say the Russia collusion hoax, it doesn't mean that Russia doesn't exist. It means that he didn't collude with Russia to win the election. Russia doesn't exist. So. All right. I don't know if there's any more information on that, but I guess that we do have the list. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Geez.

[Steven Crowder]

A list of. All right. You guys, really.

[Tim Pool]

You followed through here? Well, we're ages of.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, that's for me. That's not for you. Why are you taking it? I. He.

[Tim Pool]

I asked him to give it to me because you were speaking. He can give it to you now.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, now give it back to Gerald. No, I want it. All right, so, by the way, I.

[Tim Pool]

Just want you guys to know, the only time he says we're the CEO you're gonna have is when we're in here out there. He's like, screw you. I Don't have to do what you say.

[Josh Firestein]

I'll ask Steven. That's a lie. Admonish him again.

[Steven Crowder]

Come on.

[Tim Pool]

All right, fine. Whatever.

[Steven Crowder]

So before.

[Josh Firestein]

No, no.

[Steven Crowder]

Finish the admonish. Finish it. Let it. Just kidding. Yeah.

[Tim Pool]

Wow, we really screwed that up.

[Steven Crowder]

That's pretty good. Hey, hold on a second. Have the admonish button ready. And I just want to see if you can feel it when I have a. I'm gonna have a punch line. And just. I want you to keep in mind that that's the bell sound, okay? I can't with the lights. I can't really. I can't really identify who's sitting over there to my left, but his face rings a bell. Oh.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, my gosh.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, Tim.

[Tim Pool]

Be ready now.

[Steven Crowder]

No. All right. That's a 25% redeeming yourself for that one. Before we go, by the way, you can click that button and of course you have not been gifted a sub. Click that button and join Rumble Premium. Mug Club is Rumble Premium. Rumble Premium is Mug Club. It's the only reason we're able to do anything that we have done here. Whether it's undercover, election night, the Daily Show. Also, when you join Rumble premium, you get 100% more show. You get everything ad free. It's the one stop shop to support this. We're going to continue before I read this on Rumble Premium. Now for those who are members to discuss government run grocery stores and more public transportation from the communist in New York, Mamdani. And actually, before we do that, just. You know what? Didn't we have that song? Do we have a song? No, no, no. Not that. Stop. Didn't get a song. A parody of the Mamdani thing. Or did I know we ran it last week. But did it disappear? Remember what we're talking about? Okay.

[Tim Pool]

May have to bring that in during Rumble Premium.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no, no, no. I want to play.

[Tim Pool]

Okay.

[Steven Crowder]

Is it.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, no, it's not that. It should be at the beginning.

[Steven Crowder]

Promise montage. What? You guys know what I'm talking.

[Josh Firestein]

It's gone.

[Steven Crowder]

Is it gone? Why would someone remove that from my show?

[Josh Firestein]

You teased it last week.

[Steven Crowder]

I think. I don't care.

[Josh Firestein]

Hey, I didn't do it.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't think I teased it. I want the song. I don't think I. Yeah, I want the song. Guys.

[Tim Pool]

Where's the song? We're just gonna stay here until we get this.

[Josh Firestein]

Where is that song?

[Steven Crowder]

So when he was dressed like Stalin, right? Or Pol Pot.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, yeah. He's dressed in like fatigues.

[Steven Crowder]

Like fatigues oh, yeah. Like a fart in the wind.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah.

[Epstein Victim or Legal Representative]

I think it was for a different segment.

[Josh Firestein]

It wasn't for this one and particular.

[Steven Crowder]

You're right.

[Josh Firestein]

It was for this one.

[Steven Crowder]

It was. You're wrong.

[Tim Pool]

You admonish yourself again.

[Steven Crowder]

All right, guys, I'm not sending you to Tim Pooler reading these names until I get that. I'm waiting. Right, you guys. You guys talk amongst yourselves.

[Josh Firestein]

It's coming in. Did you see the Mexican parliament arguing over US intervention with the cartels?

[Steven Crowder]

I don't care because it wasn't arguing.

[Josh Firestein]

It was. Yeah, it was a fist fight. You would love to see it. Oh, it was great. Oh, this one guy was just bullying people around. Some guy tried to break it up. Some white guy. He punched him in the face.

[Steven Crowder]

No.

[Josh Firestein]

Fantastic.

[Steven Crowder]

A lucha libre mask.

[Josh Firestein]

Because if not, it wasn't worth it.

[Steven Crowder]

No. Well, I'm still waiting.

[Tim Pool]

It's coming in.

[Steven Crowder]

All right. I mean, do whatever you guys want.

[Tim Pool]

Slowly, carefully.

[Steven Crowder]

Worked hard on that song.

[Tim Pool]

One bite.

[Josh Firestein]

Did you.

[Steven Crowder]

Derek Lord. Guys, where's the song? Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's.

[Josh Firestein]

You guys know you want to play rock paper scissors.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, you know what's really stupid about rock paper scissors? In French, they do rush pepys. If you're in Canadian, let me know. Is rock papier paper. Scissors is sizzle. But alumet is match. What? Exactly. And here's the thing. The problem with. I remember one time losing my mind. I got in trouble because I was like, no, that's stupid. In English, we do rock paper, scissors. It makes sense because each one has a one to one, one chance of winning and losing.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Match loses to. It beats paper, but it loses to rock and it loses to scissors. So match is the only one that has a 1 to 2 win to loss ratio. And kids would still pick it.

[Tim Pool]

Why?

[Steven Crowder]

I don't know. The French have to be different.

[Josh Firestein]

That is. That is beyond stupid.

[Steven Crowder]

It is beyond stupid.

[Josh Firestein]

Like, we had the gun. There's the gun. Which makes sense because it beats everything. Yeah, it's like, that's cheating, right?

[Steven Crowder]

That's true.

[Josh Firestein]

But you're not even cheating with a match.

[Tim Pool]

You had gun.

[Josh Firestein]

You're basically giving up.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, you're basically giving up. You guys have the song.

[Tim Pool]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

All right, so we're gonna do a segment on this, but this, I just wanted you guys to see it. Perfect. Worth it. Should have been there this whole time. All right, now I'm going to read out to thank you everyone who gifted some Rumble premium subscriptions. There you go. Now you can start the track Billy. All right. I want to thank you and celebrate Hiplis does it thank you, Mr. Never Ms. Mt. Ghazi Professor Savage Dad Crack Cipher Peckety Big Also 5150 Emmett's Mommy 01B Juan Patriot Keep the Song Going Patriot Dom 25 Cricket Boy 0 Gandriva Dad Jokes 18 PPGH Mad CAW 615 VR 6 More Dr. Pat Sometimes Emacs Tactical previously on LWC Driller 40 KDNB Silent RT Bothmeister Clint 220 Unsure Harbinger Dragon Claw 73 Heart 8 Swamp Cleaner Dnez 77 Nat Donald My Angel 1982 Killer Grizzly Bear Conservative West Big DB Frankosaurus Rex Peggy Johnson Rusty W 34 BDR 17 76K Curtman 5 Bighorn Spiders McGroy J Trumpetta 41 ETLG Darth Wolf Joseph Arse 86 Moist 1 Master Banks 86 Bone Jangles oh my God, it still keeps going Honky Tonk Hitman 01 Joe Cartel Jack 591 Matt Daddy 1976 Carol HLF 1890 Fentanyl Floyd 9421 Wolfbank 37 CD Hoff 2 Maynard SM Drew Code 2003 Stick Pepe Sharpie 360 Fetal Cookies Fatal Cookies Sorry Tricky Dick with Spell with Number one Werewolf Hunter Mississippi Axe out two X's Paul Not Saul Cuba Man Robin Suhu Mateless Soul Tenzo Taku Dame on Night Premium Let's.