Nick DiPaolo (4:40)

That's this week.

Steven Crowder (4:41)

It's this week.

Nick DiPaolo (4:42)

I can't believe it. Yes. So this Thursday and Friday.

Steven Crowder (4:44)

Friday.

Nick DiPaolo (4:45)

See you there, kids. What was the question? How am I? Oh, tremendous.

Steven Crowder (4:49)

Good.

Nick DiPaolo (4:49)

Filled with aids.

Steven Crowder (4:51)

Well, you know who likely is? It's actually this first segment. So two weeks ago, we introduced you to the Predator poachers of Long island and their first catch. And the funniest ever pedophile sting that I have seen in my life. This man involved was named Amir.

Douglas (5:10)

She said she was 13.

Amir (5:12)

Okay. I appreciate her, by the way. I'm sorry. I'm Douglas.

Douglas (5:15)

I mean, I want to not knock some sense into this.

Amir (5:18)

Yeah, no, that's good. I hear.

Douglas (5:20)

But I'm. Because I'm a father, I'm like, you know what? Let me just give in in a way so that she thinks I'm meeting her.

Steven Crowder (5:25)

Yeah.

Amir (5:26)

Oh, you are meeting her. Yeah. Kind of seems like you wanted to go through with it.

Douglas (5:31)

I didn't. I really didn't. Honestly, like, that's why the first. That's why when I said, if you are here. Yeah, that is true.

Amir (5:39)

It's like, wanna see my penis? You know, and it's not yours, but, you know, it's a penis.

Douglas (5:44)

I don't even want to deal with a minor, you know.

Amir (5:46)

No, of course. But, like, you know, you are here in an effort to, you know, deal with a minor.

Steven Crowder (5:54)

And. Happy ending. Amir was arrested in Long Island. My favorite part of that was he's like, I was just gonna tell her, like, to stay in school. Yeah.

Nick DiPaolo (6:03)

Kinda like, Rocky, quit smoking.

Steven Crowder (6:05)

Yeah, quit smoking. Don't play with blasting caps, you know, Good St. Right. They still got blessed and kept. They haven't had those first.

Nick DiPaolo (6:12)

And the girl goes, screw you, creepo.

Steven Crowder (6:14)

Screw you, creepo. So anyway, that was. And of course, that was an exclusive to Mudclub. They're doing God's work. And we actually have an update. A mere.

Nick DiPaolo (6:23)

It was a mere mistake.

Steven Crowder (6:24)

He said, possible to have an update. Mirror is. No, he's back of his own volition. Okay. Because he wanted to clear the air, which is kind of tough to do when you're a pedophile. But he gives it the old college try. Which brings us to our first. Well, Mug club exclusive. Talking with pedophiles. Talking with pedophiles. Rolling.

Douglas (6:50)

I told my wife I have to be at the precinct to get fingerprinted.

Amir (6:54)

Okay.

Douglas (6:54)

Should we go there or stay here?

Amir (6:56)

To the precincts?

Nick DiPaolo (6:57)

Yeah.

Douglas (6:57)

Not inside. Just like, outside. One of the people that knew my boss saw it on a. On a. On a. On either. Either that live show. No, no. Somewhere on the live show. Because my job, I lost it. So they took my phone at the precinct. I don't know if it's here or if it's in district court, but I got court on Tuesday.

Amir (7:15)

Okay.

Douglas (7:16)

My daughter is 10. What is she gonna do at 13? I'm 37. Why are you okay with that?

Amir (7:21)

She's not at capacity to consent, and you know that.

Douglas (7:25)

Well, no, no, no, that's true. The problem is that it's making me a monster in society, that I never. I never am or never wanted to be. I could Even donate to your.

Amir (7:34)

To your post, punk from Long Island.

Douglas (7:37)

You are. You are. You said you are.

Amir (7:39)

That's who I am.

Douglas (7:40)

Because the ultimate judge is God.

Amir (7:41)

Exactly.

Douglas (7:42)

So I don't care.

Amir (7:43)

You took the words out of my mouth.

Douglas (7:44)

And I made a mistake talking to you. I should have just stayed in the car waiting for the cops.

Amir (7:48)

It sounds like you're just upset that you got caught.

Douglas (7:50)

No, I'm not.

Amir (7:51)

And not, like, remorseful for anything you did.

Douglas (7:53)

I'm remorseful.

Amir (7:54)

You don't see me. You're not sorry for this kid. You're not sorry.

Douglas (7:57)

I'm sorry for the kid. And I'm not the type of guy that's gonna go someone's daughter.

Amir (8:00)

Bro, you arrived.

Douglas (8:02)

Listen, man, I arrived. You're gonna on Internet or something?

Amir (8:06)

No, we don't have to.

Douglas (8:07)

You sure?

Amir (8:07)

Yeah, we don't have to. I mean, we might, I think. Wouldn't you want this to be on the Internet to kind of clear your.

Steven Crowder (8:12)

Yeah.

Douglas (8:12)

Yeah. A little bit. And it was funny, cuz the guy Crowder was like, I urinated myself. I'm like, I can't believe. You know what it is. Because I'm a simple person. The Internet's full of garbage, you know.

Amir (8:23)

Like, sure, but why do you have to be the garbage? Why not be a beacon of good?

Steven Crowder (8:28)

Yeah.

Douglas (8:28)

It's honest mistake.

Amir (8:29)

See, as photographer, I go for a month and a half.

Douglas (8:31)

I understand. Really? It's been that long.

Amir (8:33)

That's a pretty long and ongoing honest mistake. Why were you so comfortable asking for that? And, like, I'm not.

Douglas (8:41)

I wasn't comfortable.

Amir (8:42)

I'm not saying, like, you were like, oh, thank God.

Douglas (8:43)

Like, I'm not saying that, but I wasn't comfortable.

Amir (8:46)

But you asked her so many times.

Douglas (8:48)

How many times?

Amir (8:49)

More than one. Which is more than enough. Yeah. Correct.

Douglas (8:52)

When my daughter takes a shower, I don't even use the bathroom.

Amir (8:56)

I would hope not.

Douglas (8:57)

I wait to use the bathroom after.

Amir (8:59)

Jesus.

Douglas (8:59)

There's only one bathroom.

Amir (9:00)

It's good that you wait.

Douglas (9:01)

No, there's only. I already called the Rockville Center. I was like, if the person retracts their press charges, whatever. Like, you press charges, obviously.

Amir (9:10)

Are you asking me to retract?

Steven Crowder (9:11)

No, no, no, no, no.

Amir (9:12)

No phone call?

Douglas (9:13)

No, no, no.

Amir (9:14)

I didn't press the charges. The police did. From the bottom of my heart, I am sorry that your family is going through this.

Douglas (9:19)

And I'm not the type of person to try to make my family suffer, you know, I emailed you because I got to straighten this out. I don't Use that application for that purpose. I never did.

Amir (9:30)

Why on earth should I believe the very first time you decided, I'm gonna talk to a minor, I'm gonna ask her for nude pictures. I'm gonna send her porn. Like, fake penis pictures. Why should I believe this is the first time this has happened? Like, and amazingly, I'm on the other.

Douglas (9:48)

Side because I'm really telling you the truth. I don't have child porn on that either.

Amir (9:52)

I'll take your word for it.

Douglas (9:53)

I could be part of. If you believe me. You know, be part of your cause.

Amir (9:56)

Yeah, I mean, like, we'll see how everything's going.

Douglas (9:58)

Well, I don't know if I'm gonna go to jail. I don't know.

Amir (10:00)

I don't know. I was trying to tell her to stay in school. I was trying to tell her to, like, do this, do that.

Douglas (10:05)

Like, it wasn't really in the chat.

Steven Crowder (10:08)

All the.

Douglas (10:09)

I can't believe.

Steven Crowder (10:10)

I can't believe.

Douglas (10:10)

I never. I never.

Amir (10:11)

Every single one of them says that because they're trying to get out of trouble.

Douglas (10:14)

You can't even testify. They come in and testify and say.

Amir (10:16)

Listen, I won't do that.

Douglas (10:18)

Oh, you won't? Okay.

Amir (10:19)

No, I won't.

Douglas (10:19)

You probably still don't believe me.

Amir (10:21)

I mean, just the fact that, like, you. You asked this kid for news.

Douglas (10:26)

I did. I'm not saying I didn't.

Amir (10:28)

That's great. But I'm telling you, it's like, it doesn't sit well with me.

Douglas (10:32)

I hear you, and I'm not crying to make you feel sorry for me. I'm just saying, like, I got caught up in. In.

Steven Crowder (10:38)

In.

Douglas (10:39)

In a up situation. I should have never even approached.

Steven Crowder (10:42)

Yeah.

Amir (10:42)

Good luck and happy birthday to your wife.

Douglas (10:45)

Thanks.

Amir (10:46)

Yeah, man. Thank you. You as well.

Steven Crowder (10:49)

Talking with pedophiles. Allegedly. Alleged pedophile. Allegedly. He did say right there, they asked for nudes and sent pornography to an error.

Nick DiPaolo (11:01)

Who's that guy? Who's that interview?

Steven Crowder (11:03)

Oh, he's great. Well, Douglas. Douglas was. He's the best. He's the best that I've ever seen. Because you take confronting them and add someone who's funny.

Nick DiPaolo (11:11)

Oh, my God. It's. It's a perfect storm.

Steven Crowder (11:13)

It's a perfect. I have to put it on the Internet. I mean, we might. He's like, Jesus, I guess. It's so nice of you to wait your turn while his daughter's in the bathroom.

Nick DiPaolo (11:23)

I know. That was the selling point for me, you know, when I take a dump, I wait till she got it. She Gave me a Dirty Sanchez once.

Steven Crowder (11:31)

Listen. Yeah, I cut a hole in the wall, you know, but I don't use it. Make sure she's safe. Yeah, it's just. And just so you know, you see this and it's easy to detach yourself from it. The excuse, this man is never to blame. It's. I didn't mean to. Whenever you hear somebody say, well, I didn't mean to. If you are talking about the action, if you are talking about the effect, and they are only talking about the intent, careful. Because that person is likely to project and label you a narcissist. That's what often happens, right? They try and throw it onto you like, well, I didn't mean to. Why are you so self absorbed? Well, hold on a second. You did send nudes. You did ask for nudes repeatedly. I didn't mean to, you know, I didn't mean to do anything inappropriate. Was just going to tell her to drink her milk.

Nick DiPaolo (12:13)

It was an accident.

Steven Crowder (12:14)

It was the accident.

Nick DiPaolo (12:15)

I hit the fuck and the email went over there.

Steven Crowder (12:17)

I fell onto my keyboard 6482 times.

Nick DiPaolo (12:21)

Yeah.

Steven Crowder (12:22)

With vowels and consonants, you know, you know how it goes. I don't at.

Nick DiPaolo (12:25)

You're like, sir, you have a sneeze guide on your computer screen.

Steven Crowder (12:30)

Yeah, I was playing the Golden Corral game, you know, virtual reality, you know.

Nick DiPaolo (12:36)

Windshield wiper on your computer.

Steven Crowder (12:38)

I got caught up in something. And I love how this is so urgent, but he still can't help himself from going on his phone. I know. You know, well, let me see a talking cat. You see this? I love how he's talking about. He's like, I should never just have gotten. I should have just got in the car. Like, you should probably also get in the car now. Yes, you should leave now. Making it work.

Nick DiPaolo (12:56)

The guy convicted it himself.

Steven Crowder (12:58)

Yeah, I know.

Nick DiPaolo (12:58)

I mean, you just show that to the jury of the judge and you're like, okay, this guy will never be.

Steven Crowder (13:03)

You know, they say that he who represents himself. I've heard this has a fool for a client, but there's bullshit.

Nick DiPaolo (13:09)

I'm no fool. Look, I'm a Detroit Lions fan.

Steven Crowder (13:11)

That's right.

Nick DiPaolo (13:13)

Representing the Lions.

Steven Crowder (13:14)

With that hat, I look like my 600 pound Russell Peters life. Anyway. I just want to read it with a laugh. And today is all about, like I said, it's all about picking. We can't do this without you. You are the reason that we are able to pick. Yesterday we debunked John Oliver's incoherent ramblings. About Donald Trump 2.0. And some. Some of it was incoherent and some of it was deliberately deceitful. There have been some developments. Which brings us. It brings us to our newest segment. I am a pussy. And that is frankly a wild thing to say. I'm telling you, I am a pussy. Oh, sorry if this is how you found out, but I'm telling you that I am a pussy. God. Little Tom Jones. You want to dance, Johnny? Let's dance. So yesterday, in real time, when we debunked, of course, recognizing very much fair use, we told you in real time exactly what would happen to that segment. Because we know Johnny Oliver, John Oliver is always wrong. I expect this show to be completely removed. Because every time we critique John Oliver, his talent agency directly claims that it's a copyright violation and gets it removed. I'm willing to bet it's because of the many, many millions of plays critiquing him. I bet you probably think you know where this is going, but allow me to present the prestige. The clip was immediately banned before it even went live. And this has. This has greater ramifications for everyone on YouTube and on social media. You know, it used to be called new media. This was seen as this new frontier. It's not anymore. This is media. And you have people, these dinosaurs, these legacy dinosaurs who want to abuse it and ensure that you can't actually have your say. That's the reason that rumble exists. YouTube is dead. YouTube is not what YouTube once was. The claim was made on behalf of Oliver's talent agency, Avalon. And last week, tonight. This was manual. They did it. This wasn't just automatic. I thought you misspoke. But it actually was taken down before it went live. Yeah. How is that even possible? Yeah, they have. I'm pretty sure they have a set as an alert. We appealed the decision. Just to give you an idea, under this fair use principle, a law principle, and we've done this in the past. Appeals have been denied. Let me be clear with you in sort of outlining what fair use is, it couldn't be more clear in this instance. And if this doesn't apply as fair use, everyone out there is at risk. If you rebut anything, it can be removed. If you have an opinion that someone doesn't like and you show a clip. Hey, do you know who violates fair use? John Oliver, by showing clips on a regular basis to lampoon them or rebut them. Now, of course, he's never actually debated anyone in person or showed up with anyone who was a less than friendly audience, which I would argue is, you know, cowardice. But he's a Brit. So according to YouTube's standards, which are supposed to be based on law, and by the way, the same applies for journalism. Single party consent means that the other person doesn't need to know that they're being filmed or recorded. You know, how you expose corruption. YouTube doesn't apply the law in that instance either. But hey, they get the benefit of Section 230 so long as they follow the law. So this is how YouTube defines fair use, purpose and character. It says courts typically focus on whether the use of copyright protected material is transformative. That means, are you just rebroadcasting something, Are you pirating it? Or are you changing that content like a parody or like a point by point? Myth, fact, claim, truth, rebuttal, it's transformative. The nature of the copyrighted work is another category they have. This is using material from primarily factual works is more likely to be fair use than using purely fictional works. Maybe that's John Oliver's defense that he is not a primarily factual entity show creator. I don't know. It's the only wiggle room I can see with them arguing against this being fair use. If John Oliver wants to go out on that shield and say, well, you can't take what I say seriously, I'm full of shit, right? Listen to that argument. Maybe he's arguing that his works are completely just purely fictional, I don't know. And then the third sort of litmus test is the amount or the length of the copyrighted work being used. So borrowing small bits, according to YouTube of material from an original work is more likely to be considered fair use than borrowing large portions. So we rebutted John Oliver, therefore it was transformative. It is supposed to be a primarily fact based work. Okay, so we should be covered there. And then as long as you're using shorter clips and addressing them due to their new worthiness or factual basis, or disagree, all three categories, it couldn't be more clear. This is an attack on freedom of speech on YouTube. I know some libertarians out there say, oh, you can go, go create your own YouTube. Well, we have, there's rumble, but this is about, this is about selective application of the rules and the law. The final category is effect on market value. Uses that harm the copyright holder's ability to profit from their original work are less likely to be fair uses. This didn't harm John Oliver's ability to profit whatsoever. If anything, it would drive more traffic to his to his content. More numbers, more eyeballs. Yep. So does our video fit those standards? Well, here's the thing. Right now it's been removed from YouTube so you can't watch it. I know, it's like a figment of your imagination. So actually go on over to the Rumble homepage, it's featured and check the video out to see for yourself. Featured right there on the homepage. Thanks. Rumble link in the description. It's gotta piss him off. There didn't used to be a Rumble. Yeah, this is the problem with being at the feet of YouTube guys. You gotta start migrating. Also, how many new stars has YouTube allowed to grow in the last three, four years? It's really, really hard. They've pulled the ladder up. They want the John Oliver's, the Seth Meyers of the world. They don't want you in retaliation, by the way, to yesterday's show. In a rare instance of showing up for the fight, John Oliver posted his own arguably not fair use. Watch and react. I played from the beginning. You may think that is waste. It's our waste. Look, you may think that it's not run efficiently. Yeah, but we know that. But you've never conducted any actual audits. This is the first time. This is the first time it's happened in our lifetime. That's why it's a big deal. That's why you're so mad. You understand that, right? You might think that it's waste. We've been saying it for decades. You may think that money is being laundered. We've been saying it for decades. Hey, let me ask you this. You ever look into Burisma? You ever talk about it? What about the Hunter Biden laptop? What about the 70,000 new IRS, new IRS employees? What about the IRS targeting of conservatives? You ever look into any of it? The only trend is like, oh, we can have a respectful disagreement. Only you never have. You called us Nazis then and you imply that we're Nazis now. You can go yourself back to the uk. I feel worse for the alleged pedophile. At least he showed up. So this is where we are. John Oliver is a huge absolute. And Google is doing the bidding of these giant networks, by the way. These giant networks don't care about you. Remember hbo? Westworld first season was a great show. You're now a subscriber to Max. They don't have it. They don't have it. I went to HBO to go now called Max to try and watch Westworld. It's not there, but I have Chris Wallace. Are you screwing with me?

Nick DiPaolo (20:52)

HBO has been at the center of the cancer for years.

Steven Crowder (20:55)

It really has.

Nick DiPaolo (20:56)

It is the worst of the fucking worst. I worked there. I worked for a good guy, Chris Rock, but I saw and I met the faces of evil. Yeah, you know, it disgusting. Just. But I took their money.

Steven Crowder (21:10)

Yes, of course you took their money back. Then you take the money to use it against them. And by that I mean get another boat.

Nick DiPaolo (21:13)

No, I had a crack habit.

Steven Crowder (21:17)

It would be nice if John Oliver had a crack.

Nick DiPaolo (21:19)

At least he'd be, oh, I hope he dies soon.

Steven Crowder (21:20)

He's.

Nick DiPaolo (21:22)

I really do. I hope there's an accident.

Steven Crowder (21:24)

You know what? I think, unlike Trevor, Noah, kids are.

Nick DiPaolo (21:26)

In the front seat.

Steven Crowder (21:26)

Unlike. Unlike Colbert.

Nick DiPaolo (21:28)

Shut up. Your.

Steven Crowder (21:30)

Unlike Colbert. I think John Oliver can be fun, can be funny, but, you know, say what you want about Jon Stewart, Jon Stewart did absolutely own Bill O'Reilly on his own show. He would show up. He did it with Tucker Carlson. He had the balls to show up and to argue, and he was nice about it.

Nick DiPaolo (21:44)

Yeah, that's. I mean, I never had problems to. Of course, politically.

Steven Crowder (21:48)

Yeah, sure.

Nick DiPaolo (21:48)

But he. I told you when he had shows before, he had the Daily Show.

Steven Crowder (21:52)

Yeah.

Nick DiPaolo (21:52)

On. On comedy, he would call me first.

Steven Crowder (21:54)

Yeah.

Nick DiPaolo (21:55)

He threw me on a couple times. And then he mentioned me and Colin Quinn when he signed off on the Daily Show.

Steven Crowder (21:59)

Yeah.

Nick DiPaolo (22:00)

He said, I look forward to going back to stand up. And, you know.

Steven Crowder (22:02)

Yeah.

Nick DiPaolo (22:03)

And I always liked him. He was always polite, even if we beefed or whatever.

Steven Crowder (22:06)

Sure. Yeah. And at least he would show up. John Oliver has never.

Nick DiPaolo (22:09)

He's a limey, dirty limey.

Steven Crowder (22:11)

Yes, he is. And YouTube is doing the bidding of talentless. I don't want to say talentless. Mediocre talent. Backboneless, spineless, feckless pussies who aren't even from this country. YouTube. How about you start following the laws of the country that has allowed you to create a company in the first place? This is threatening the entire ecosystem, and we've seen this for a long time. The entire platform of YouTube, though, pretty much dead. Rumble is the future, and we're able to do these kinds of segments. John Oliver, anytime. We welcome you, and of course we'll be polite. We'll match intensity. I would love to have a conversation with you and not just about political disagreements. Maybe you don't know that your talent agency is doing this. Maybe you don't know what's going on on social media. I know you've advocated for censorship of speech, but you know what? I'm willing to Hear you out. And I know that everyone in the conservative movement is willing to hear you out. You'd be surprised as to how polite the audience is. But the difference is they actually show up. They actually stand behind their convictions. There's a reason that Rumble is the future. There's a reason that YouTube is dead. And it's just crystallized by the fact that John Oliver is a spineless pussy. I am a pussy. And that is frankly a wild thing to say. I'm telling you, I am a pussy. Oh, sorry if this is how you found out, but I'm telling you that I am a pussy.

Alan Desantos (23:22)

God.

Steven Crowder (23:27)

By the way, still one of the greatest voices ever. Tom Jones.

Nick DiPaolo (23:29)

Are you shitting me? I'd sleep with a guy today. I'd throw my own underwear up there.

Steven Crowder (23:35)

My parents went and them a couple years ago and old ladies were still throwing their bras on stage.

Nick DiPaolo (23:39)

Oh my God. Well, they triple D cups filled with bingo chips.

Steven Crowder (23:43)

Yeah, they have an extra measurement for length at that point.

Nick DiPaolo (23:47)

And throwing giant gir. Actually knocking Tom out with a.

Steven Crowder (23:51)

It's a titanium hip.

Nick DiPaolo (23:52)

Yeah, Pee pants. And they have pads.

Steven Crowder (23:55)

It's a catheter. Here, take it back, lady. Someone just a crowd surf on their hover round kills like nine geriatrics. By the way, Duke, if you are not Mug Club is now Rumble Premium. Rumble Premium is Mug Club. Clip that button below. Just click it right there to join Rumble Premium. $99 annually or 9.99amonth. That's why we're able to do what we do. We migrated from YouTube a long time ago. More people are following suit. We welcome you. The water is warm and if not, download the app. It's the best way to stay in touch. Rumble owns live. You only get notifications when we're live. Just download the app. You never have to worry about algorithms disconnecting us again. Okay, let's move on before we get to the lawsuit that's a major deal with Brazil, both from Rumble and the Trump a company under President Trump. We're having a law fair right now in the United States. And we knew that this was going to happen, but I want to sort of go through some myths and facts with you and all the references. Links are available in the description. So let's set the stage here. Last night I believe Donald Trump instructed the Justice Department to terminate all of the remaining Biden era U.S. attorneys. He posted this on Truth by the way. He's got. I forgot he's going to be on the show later today to debate one of these Judges, Right. We're going to have President Trump and Judge. I forget the name. Yeah, we'll get him. So President Trump posted this on Truth. He said, over the past four years, the Department of Justice has been politicized like never before. Never before. Therefore, I have instructed the termination of all Biden. Sorry, remaining Biden era. It's hard for me to read my own truths. Do I sound like that? I don't sound like that. All Biden era U.S. attorneys, we must clean house immediately like the lady Arnold slept with. Restore confidence. America's golden age must have a fair justice system that begins today. And this all seems very reasonable. And we'll get into the history here and why. This is something that has been done many, many times before. There's nothing unique about it. But of course, the media had a conniption F. Donald Trump is promising retribution at the Department of Justice point guard on his social media just a short time ago. Certainly not a termination of all Biden era US Attorneys in an effort to, quote, clean house. And Donald Trump now saying, clear out all of these prosecutors simply because they were Biden appointees. This feels like he wants very desperately to corrupt the Department of Justice.

Nick DiPaolo (26:28)

Please tell me that's chemo.

Steven Crowder (26:29)

It feels like. It feels like. Does it feel like. Yeah, but hold on a second. What is it? Let's get rid of the phrase. Can we just put a moratorium on I feel like or it feels. How about I think or it is.

Nick DiPaolo (26:42)

Oh, they won't have anything to say over there now. They will be a silent film if it has to do with logic.

Steven Crowder (26:46)

And can you guys just comment anytime, please. Let's, let's the eliminate I feel movement when making arguments. No more I feel. It feels like. I think or it is. Let's start using those phrases. You know why people don't want to use those phrases? Because it puts them in the hot seat. One is this sort of nebulous hyperbole maybe. The other is you're laying claim to it, saying, no, no, I think X. This is why. Why, let's start doing that. So in reality, this whining has been going on since the day President Trump was inaugurated.

Nick DiPaolo (27:28)

Allow me to suggest that they are.

Steven Crowder (27:29)

Not in touch with how real people really do feel about what really is just a lawless blitzkrieg. They're calling this a constitutional crisis. We're headed toward a constitutional crisis by.

Nick DiPaolo (27:41)

They fight back against the lawless actions of the Trump administration. I think.

Steven Crowder (27:45)

I think we're on the verge of moving from a decayed system into a crisis. He signed over 200 executive actions, totally setting into place a process to dismantle the federal government as well as for.

Nick DiPaolo (27:59)

Making Donald Trump the true tyrant of our country.

Steven Crowder (28:02)

Yes, when I think tyrants, I think people who dismantle and downsize the government. It's unreal. And they try to. Both sides, it okay, sure, in the sense that both sides have taken these actions or executive orders, but when the left is in power, they absolutely. There's nothing. I wish I loved anything as much as they love raping the Constitution. Both sides have tried to make this argument, but please tell me you recognize the difference. One side uses executive orders to usurp the law, to pervert the law. And one side, right now, President Trump, this administration, they use the executive orders to enforce the laws that exist. And let's look at those executive orders and say which ones are more in line with the Constitution. Someone who uses an executive order with some arbitrary pistol brace rule to try and get rid of guns that are a part of your God given right to self preservation, or someone who uses an executive order to ensure that those laws are not warped, that your rights are not infringed upon. Someone who uses an executive order to take your tax dollars and give them to people who are not even residents of this country. Or someone who uses an executive order to say, no, no, no, no, no, taxpayers aren't gonna foot the bill for the world. That's not the job of government. Which one is a perversion of the Constitution? I know you can comment below. Law is a practice. It's not an exact science. President Trump, I think not, I feel, has a very, very strong case. For those of you who aren't aware the executive authority, it comes from two places, Constitution Article 2 and Congress. Let's get into some key facts here. First off, if you are upset about the executive orders or the amount of them, you have one person to thank. Barack Obama. He was the president who escalated this, who set the trend of relying on these EOs to circumvent Congress. On Everyone has done it, but he was arguably the first president to do it and abuse it in a way that affected or created major policies and would actually circumvent existing laws. We are not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we're providing Americans the kind of help that they need.

Alan Desantos (30:16)

I've got a pen and I've got.

Steven Crowder (30:18)

A phone and I can use that pen, thank you. To sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions that move the ball forward Also now. Now, now, now. Why do I have a school shooter over my left shoulder?

Douglas (30:31)

That's kind of weird.

Steven Crowder (30:33)

You're about to open fire, am I right? Security. I'm getting all weed up. Everybody said that. Yeah, don't get all weed up.

Nick DiPaolo (30:41)

I got. I got a pen, I got a phone, and a defensive back for a wife linebacker.

Steven Crowder (30:49)

She was actually one of the Purple People eaters. She's an all bro, and I'm not.

Nick DiPaolo (30:53)

Talking about her gums.

Steven Crowder (30:57)

This brings us, for those of you who don't remember, to the latest installment of Then and Now. I thought she was a packer. Oh.

Nick DiPaolo (31:11)

Oh, you. Oh, that's him.

Steven Crowder (31:13)

You boys.

Nick DiPaolo (31:14)

He's a packer. Can't they both be.

Steven Crowder (31:17)

Guys, guys, the fight's out there. All right, let's go to immigration. Okay, this brings us to then. Barack Obama used his executive orders to get around existing immigration laws. Do you remember this? He gave de facto amnesty to DACA recipients. You're talking about dreamers, anchor babies, all this, Barack. This was unprecedented. People were really upset back then. If you're too young to remember, just check the link in the description. He actually did that. That brings us to now. President Trump has used his executive orders to enforce immigration laws, like deporting illegal aliens, like defending the border. So let me ask you this. Which executive order is more arguably defensive, constitutionally, out of thin air, Giving amnesty to people who would not have been given amnesty before, which, by the way, puts taxpayers on the hook. Or an executive order saying, actually, hold on a second. You. You really do have to enforce the laws that we have had for decades and centuries. You can't just not enforce the law. You can comment below. Gun control. Okay, gun control. Let's go back to then. Barack Obama used his executive order to expand gun control in 2016. Unilaterally expanded background checks, by the way, background checks already existed. This was a Trojan horse. Anyone who's purchased a firearm legally knows this. I'm not talking about your Saturday night specials. This brings us to now. President Trump used an executive order to protect the Second Amendment from unelected bureaucrats, activists, things like arbitrary rules like the pistol brace rule. Arbitrary rules like this grip is not okay, but this grip is okay. You know, just a simple way to infringe on your Second Amendment rights. Which one do you think is more defensible? Not. What do you feel? What do you think? Let's go to some other key facts here. Plenty of people have ignored the courts historically. When the left tries to screech about this in case you don't remember. Let's go back to then. Good tool man. I'm making sure you're on your toes. Former Vice President Biden in 2023 completely disregarded the Supreme Court declaring student loan relief while they said it was unconstitutional. He said, yeah, but it doesn't matter, I'm going to do it anyway. How do we know? Because he said so.

Nick DiPaolo (33:36)

Supreme Court blocked me from relieving student debt, but they didn't stop me. So far I relieved student debt for nearly 5 million Americans, a significant number of black borrowers.

Steven Crowder (33:49)

I don't give a sh. Trying to keep it, trying to keep it, trying to keep it relatively clean. First off, think of that phrase I gave a student loan for. Really? What you write a check from your personal bank account. What you mean is you stole from other people. And by the way, one of the greatest wealth transactions transfers in history because the beneficiaries of these student loans were largely upper middle class Americans getting useless degrees that they couldn't pay off. But Biden wants you to. He did that personally. That's another key difference. They will take credit for doing something. By that they mean using taxpayer dollars. When President Trump takes credit, he's taking credit right now for cutting waste with, by the way, an actual team of people who have historically been outside of the government and the left bitches about it. So when Donald Trump or Elon Musk said because we did that, they actually did. They didn't just steal your money. Which brings us to another example of then former Vice President Biden respect The office in 2021 completely disregarded the Supreme Court on the eviction moratoriums as well. How do we know this? Why do I think this? Well actually, I don't even think this. It is because he said it. It.

Nick DiPaolo (35:06)

The bulk of the constitutional scholarship says that it's not likely to pass Constitution.

Steven Crowder (35:14)

That's a little sad. But at a minimum, oh no, by.

Nick DiPaolo (35:17)

The time it gets litigated, we'll probably give some additional time while we're getting that $45 billion out to people who are in fact behind in the rent.

Steven Crowder (35:28)

And don't have the money. So he basically just told you how he was going to effectively break the law, how he was going to violate our constitutional rights. And here's the other issue. I've said this many times, when you virtue signal, when you create this currency through fake victimhood, they're actually real victims. Now the primary people who benefited from those types of policies were giant multi billion or trillion dollar corporations like BlackRock and Vanguard who buy up properties, all these single family home units. People who were hurt were mom and pop home providers. You can say landlord, I'll say home provider because they are providing you with a home. They weren't exempt from making their payments, but the deadbeat didn't have to pay rent because Biden wanted to buy some votes. Hope you like, hope you like skyrocketing rent and real estate costs because guess what? In that period of time, you saw a wealth transfer of trillions of dollars go to the wealthiest 20 people on Earth. They bought up all the properties. Think that helped real estate? And if you don't remember this, this goes back to then. And Nick, I know you're going to love this one. People like AOC encouraged former Vice President Biden to blatantly ignore the courts. I believe that the Biden administration should ignore this ruling. I think that we, you know, the courts have the legitimacy and they rely on the legitimacy of their rulings. And what they are currently doing is engaged in an unprecedented and dramatic erosion of the legitimacy of the courts. It is completely precedent. And you can't spell erosion. Hey, look, on cnn, they brought back super straight Brian Stelter, galvanizing support from.

Nick DiPaolo (37:11)

Dozens of other news out there. Basically, the NP is trying to get the Trump White House to come to the table, have some sort of conversation, try to get back things back to normal.

Steven Crowder (37:28)

But let's be clear, right?

Nick DiPaolo (37:30)

The Trump White House wants this fight. Trump wants this. You could hear it in his voice yesterday.

Steven Crowder (37:34)

They're so obsessed yesterday, bringing things back to normal. Well, does normal include you? That we could use a little crazy.

Nick DiPaolo (37:41)

I know I take credit for these people losing to define the terms of the relationship with the press. And I suspect, Pamela, we're gonna be talking about this for some time to come because it's not gonna end with.

Steven Crowder (37:52)

The Gulf of Mexico. Yeah, you'll be there talking about it because you have dirt on those people. I don't know what it is, but that is the luckiest man in show. He has no talent, he has no charisma, he's unattractive, he's inarticulate, and he's a closeted homosexual. How is that man brought back on air? Allegedly.

Nick DiPaolo (38:08)

You just mention every characteristic you have to have to be part of the mainstream media.

Steven Crowder (38:14)

By the way, ap, and we're going to go back to this segment. I guess we have to cut this out for bits because this is an aside. Ap, your job. By the way, there's the AP handbook that they give in journalism school. Your Job is to report the news. The president named it the Gulf of America. You don't need to say anything more. Instead, you've decided that you won't. Whether it's popular or not, whether you like it or not, you are no longer news. By the way, it is not a violation of the freedom of the press for them to not invite you into the Oval Office or on a Air Force One. You can print whatever you want, but your bias is showing these. Whenever they say this is a violation of the First Amendment. Really? Where are you on Big Tech? Where have you been this entire time? Where were you on the Hunter Biden laptop? It's not the only example, but it's a very clear one. Where were you on Russiagate? Where were you on journal list going back to Barack Obama? Remember, that included Dave Weigel and people at msnbc. Where were you? Oh, now, now it's a First Amendment issue because you refuse to report the news and you are no longer being invited into his private plane in office. Get out of here. Wasn't Fox kicked out under Obama? Yeah, I believe from the actual. The actual press briefing room, barred from the premises almost. Yes. And of course, people at Fox and people at conservative nonprofits were targeted by the irs. I would say that's worse than saying, maybe you won't shake Gulf of America, then you can't get on my private plane. The horror. Say it. Oh, my gosh. Everything is a civil rights violation to these people. So we just gave you those examples of Biden and AOC saying, completely disregard the courts. That brings us to now. President Trump said that he would flat out respect the courts. If a judge does block one of your policies, part of your agenda, will you abide by that ruling? Will you?

Nick DiPaolo (40:06)

I always abide by the courts, and.

Steven Crowder (40:08)

Then I'll have to appeal it.

Nick DiPaolo (40:09)

But then what he's done is he slowed down the momentum and it gives crooked people more time to cover up the books. You know, if a person's crooked and they get caught, other people see that.

Steven Crowder (40:21)

And all of a sudden it becomes harder later on.

Nick DiPaolo (40:24)

So, yeah, the answer is I always abide by the courts, always abide by them, and will appeal.

Steven Crowder (40:31)

There you go. Pretty clear contrast from. But it's going to take him six months before they can catch me. He sucks at being a dictator. He's really bad. That's one area. Look, he needs to brush up because if he's gonna be a dictator, you gotta get better at it. Yeah, well, I don't you remember the Fury he first came out and said, there will be the right to bear arms in every household and I will respect the courts and the Jews can walk down the street freely. That's right. And don't forget, Stop Asian hate. Don't see a lot of Asians, but still. Also my, my guy with the intelligence, he's a. He's a Paki. And it's okay because I know Patel wouldn't be mad at me misreferring to him as a Packy. I know he's not a Paki. It's racist Hitler. This has been then and now. All right, let's go on to some key facts here. Again, all the references are available on every single show. Take notes. John. Is third key fact here, the authority of these lower federal courts that are blocking Trump, I would say it's bs but at best, it's questionable. Let me put a finer point on this. There are about 900 federal judges in America. Okay? So let's just look at this logically. Do you think that the Founding Fathers, do you think that their intent was for someone to be able to shop around for one of the 900 judges to completely obstruct the president? Do you think the intent of the Founding Fathers, when we're talking about the three branches of government, we're talking about the separation of powers, was that one of 900 judges should have more power than the president? Is that what you believe the design is meant to be? Please comment below. I would love to hear an argument if that's the case. Most recent example of an injunction was on President Trump's funding free, which, again, this is, in my opinion, completely defensible. It's not increasing, it's not creating an entire new government department. It's not charging taxpayers more. It's saying, hey, we're going to freeze this until we know where the money is going. I can't think of a more legitimate use of an executive order, aside from maybe opening up energy leases here in our own country. This injunction was issued by Rhode Island District Court Judge. I want to make sure I get his name right, because I don't like him. John J. McConnell Jr. Who? Let me tell you a little bit about this guy. One out of 900, they found the guy. Member of the Southern Poverty Law center, board member of Planned Parenthood. Must really hate black people. He's, of course, an anti Trumper. He's a radical progressive who called Donald Trump a tyrant and he said that racism is a white people problem. So all these things that you hear make you say, I don't like that guy. But let's LeVar Burton is. You don't have to take my word for it. The one out of 900 judges who believes he has more power than the President of the United States has told you who he is in his own, if effeminate words.

Nick DiPaolo (43:39)

Where courts stand and enforce the rule.

Steven Crowder (43:43)

Of law, that is against arbitrary and.

Nick DiPaolo (43:46)

Capricious actions by what could be a.

Steven Crowder (43:49)

Tyrant or could be whatnot. We saw plenty of examples of that recently.

Nick DiPaolo (43:54)

In many ways, racism is the white people's problem.

Steven Crowder (43:56)

White people need to figure out how to solve it.

Nick DiPaolo (43:59)

We all have racism, obviously.

Steven Crowder (44:04)

And make no mistake about it, race is present every single day in the courtroom. It's not shocking that President Obama had a great track record of ensuring diversity. Racial diversity amongst the bench.

Nick DiPaolo (44:19)

President Trump, not so much. Middle class, white male, privileged person needs.

Steven Crowder (44:27)

To understand the human being that comes before us. That may be a woman and maybe black, maybe transgender people. I don't like now. I mean, if it's a female, black, transgender. If she hits. That's the trifecta. It really is. Someone get a body language expert on this guy. The very pretty obvious. Well, I think, huh, you're. He's about to start singing clang, clang, clang with the trolley. This is the guy. You think he's supposed to have more authority than the President. Let me ask you, hey, I don't know where you live in this country right now. If you're watching, you vote for that guy. Did you vote? It's that simple. Did you vote for that guy? Why should he have more power than the President? They want to tell you that he's a threat to democracy. Come on. Anyway, I do appreciate that, unlike John Oliver the coward, he is willing this Judge to stand in the pocket and stand by his convictions and fight. So we actually, if we have them on the line now, we actually do have President Donald Trump and the Judge to debate this very issue. Wrong. So, look, the problem here is, and thank you for having me, this Judge thinks she can tell me what to do.

Douglas (45:37)

I am the law.

Steven Crowder (45:38)

No, you're not. You are not the law. I enforce the laws.

Nick DiPaolo (45:42)

You betrayed the law.

Steven Crowder (45:43)

Shut up, Dredd.

Nick DiPaolo (45:44)

Hey, it's Judge Dredd to you.

Steven Crowder (45:46)

Oh, it's Judge Dredd. That's right. That's what you said. But that's not what, frankly, a lot of people say. It's not what I heard. I heard they call you Limp Dick Dread.

Nick DiPaolo (45:56)

Who said that?

Steven Crowder (45:57)

They're like.

Nick DiPaolo (45:57)

You're lying.

Steven Crowder (45:58)

Your wife said it. Your wife.

Nick DiPaolo (45:59)

No, you don't even know.

Steven Crowder (46:00)

Your wife said it to me last night. You don't even know in the sack.

Nick DiPaolo (46:04)

No. Don't say you're going too far.

Steven Crowder (46:06)

I went all. That's right. I go too far. I went all the way with your wife.

Nick DiPaolo (46:10)

Don't push it, Donnie.

Steven Crowder (46:11)

I'm getting real tired. She needs the warmth of a real man. I give her lust of warmth.

Nick DiPaolo (46:16)

I got lots of blue.

Steven Crowder (46:17)

You don't give a warmth with that helmet. It's cold.

Nick DiPaolo (46:19)

We got a good gas heating in our.

Steven Crowder (46:21)

No, I don't think you do. I think there's a leak.

Nick DiPaolo (46:23)

No.

Steven Crowder (46:23)

And there's a shortage of H Vac. That's why my next EO will help people in the trades.

Nick DiPaolo (46:28)

How did you know that? Did you talk to my lad?

Steven Crowder (46:29)

Wait, wait, wait a second. I'm sorry. Look, I appreciate, but I have to go. I. I'm getting a call from your wife. Wrong. Yeah. He had the balls to come on the show. Yes, he did. I really do appreciate that about him. So. Yeah, that's a good. That's a good thing. By the way, on the judges, you're telling me that 900 people basically control the President? It's not just shopping for one judge. It's basically saying you have to appeal to the lowest common denominator of 900 people. They run the country. Yep. That's insane. It really is insane. Especially when it's pretty clear President has the authority. Yeah. Also when you understand that a lot of these judges, and certainly. I mean, I won't get into detail, but you have judges on your local circuit who. These are the people who are most concerned with optics and the least likely to do the right thing. Yeah. They're up for reelection. It's determined by only a handful of votes. They don't want to rock the boat. It's very different from the Supreme Court. Yeah. That's why we have lifetime appointments in the Supreme Court. You want to understand how broken our justice system is, go look into your local judge. You might be surprised. Even if you're in a red district, they often are not representative of their constituency at all. Here's another bonus factoid here. Not only is this precedented, not only will this likely be held up, I hope these actions are good political strategy. I think President Trump, he needs to keep his foot on the gas here. Let the checks and balances act as they may. Congress can do their job, pass laws. Right. And he can continue with this. Because you're seeing the American public say, oh, yeah, okay, that makes sense. Yeah. Wait, how much waste? So that is an end goal in and of itself is simply raising awareness. We've always known that government has been corrupt. And we're saying the same thing as cnn. He wants to dismantle the federal government. We're all here saying he wants to dismantle the federal government. Woo hoo. Yeah. Like a good example is ending this birthright citizenship. I should say interpretation. Right? Right. Because it's been interpreted as children of illegal aliens. If the court blocks President Trump's executive order on this, Congress can pass a law that can clarify the 14th Amendment does not at all extend citizenship to children of illegal aliens. And they can do so citing the drafter of the 14th Amendment themselves. And if you want to know more about this birthright citizenship, you can go to anywhere audio podcasts exist. We have the three in three installments. Three minutes or less. Three key facts that you need to know. All the references are publicly listed. We have gun control, we have mass shootings, we have abortion, I believe reconstruction. We have George Washington. One of them is on birthright citizenship. It's really simple. Don't be caught flat footed with that. And where we are right now at this point is we're at the point of executive orders being used to a degree that they often haven't historically because of Barack Obama. The primary difference is one side uses executive orders to abuse the Constitution to create new forms of government. And right now, we are witnessing, for the first time in our lives, one president use executive orders to scale back government to its originally intended size. You tell me which one is the tyrant?

Nick DiPaolo (49:46)

Just the fact that your taxpayer money went to Hamas. Yes. That should be enough. It should be everybody.

Steven Crowder (49:53)

Yes.

Nick DiPaolo (49:54)

No matter what side of the island, politically you should be. This guy's doing. God damn you. I mean, what the. How much more fucking proof do you need?

Steven Crowder (50:00)

I mean, he's doing the right thing, I think. Not one unmented penny to Hamas. We're doing away with pennies to benefit. We should have done away with them like 40 years ago, but fine.

Nick DiPaolo (50:10)

Well, give them the pennies.

Steven Crowder (50:11)

Yes.

Nick DiPaolo (50:13)

Count 40 billion in pennies. They're still using a fucking abacus.

Steven Crowder (50:18)

Yeah. They claim they invented.

Nick DiPaolo (50:19)

Is that what it is?

Steven Crowder (50:20)

That's what it is. They claim they invented the modern numerical system. It's the Greek. It is basically these people. And by people, I mean low life leftists have fought the law as they see it. And I think the law has. Won't you ever let anybody take your power. We can say retard again. I never stopped Nope. Stopped either. But I think it's allowed on YouTube. I don't know. I don't care. How many times have you had to hit the dump button today? I don't care. By the way, go to PureTalk.com Crowder. They are the sponsor of today's show. I will tell you this. I switched to them. I'll just say I have better service at a much better price than Verizon and I'm not giving money to people who hate me. You actually get a $0 iPhone or Samsung Galaxy when you sign up, starting at 45amonth. It's just a better plan. They have an American based call center. I didn't know that was possible anymore, but I guess it's still possible.

Nick DiPaolo (51:33)

Really?

Steven Crowder (51:34)

Yeah, they do. You call. You get someone on the phone. Do that.

Nick DiPaolo (51:36)

Are you kidding me?

Steven Crowder (51:36)

Yes.

Nick DiPaolo (51:37)

Translator needed.

Steven Crowder (51:38)

No, don't make the mistake that I made where I was transferring my old phone to a new phone and I was calling the call center from said phone. Yeah. And they're like, all right, we're about.

Nick DiPaolo (51:46)

Yeah, I heard you say, like, all.

Steven Crowder (51:48)

Right, we're about to delete your SIM number. I'm like, yeah, but if that happens, click.

Nick DiPaolo (51:51)

That sounded very. That sounded like me.

Steven Crowder (51:55)

I have to go on my computer and text like, hey, anyone have a spare phone so I can call to transfer my phone? That's not their Fault. I'm a PureTalk.com Crowder. And where are you going to be this weekend, Nick?

Nick DiPaolo (52:07)

Thursday night I'm going to be at the Bricktown Comedy Club in Tulsa. And this Friday night? The next night, St. Louis Funny Bone.

Steven Crowder (52:15)

That's going to be fun. Bricktown's a lot. I did that not too long ago.

Nick DiPaolo (52:19)

I've never been there.

Steven Crowder (52:20)

I had a fever of 104 when I got off stage. I remember throwing my shirt off in the green room before this and it went slop and I was like, ah. I guess I worked up a sweat.

Nick DiPaolo (52:27)

Why? Was it hot in there?

Steven Crowder (52:28)

No, I was sick. I was stuck in Oklahoma for three days.

Nick DiPaolo (52:31)

I hope they washed the microphone.

Steven Crowder (52:32)

Yeah, well, I don't know. I liked it. It's like a cast iron skillet. You season it. That's the trick.

Nick DiPaolo (52:38)

Was the club good?

Steven Crowder (52:39)

Yes. Yeah. Really good people there. Really a lot of fun. I like Oklahoma. Good people. They are the only state that have gotten it right. Believe no blue districts in the entire state of Oklahoma, if I'm not mistaken. I think you're right.

Nick DiPaolo (52:50)

I got in trouble the last time I was in Tulsa. This was a Long time ago on morning radio.

Steven Crowder (52:54)

Oh, they go.

Nick DiPaolo (52:56)

I was talking about. Is it Oral Roberts Universities in Tulsa. Right?

Steven Crowder (53:00)

Is it?

Nick DiPaolo (53:01)

Yeah, the giant praying hands. The statue out front.

Steven Crowder (53:04)

Yeah, they have praying hands of Islam.

Nick DiPaolo (53:07)

Sorry, they're about 80. No, let me get through this bit.

Steven Crowder (53:13)

I think it's Oklahoma. But the point remains.

Nick DiPaolo (53:15)

Yeah. Giant praying hands.

Steven Crowder (53:16)

Yes.

Nick DiPaolo (53:17)

And I was on morning radio and I said they should put a dick in one of the hands, let people know what they're doing when they're in Tulsa for a week. And boy, do those phones light up for the wrong reason.

Steven Crowder (53:27)

Oh, my gosh. I don't envy having. Remember, you had to do those morning circuits. Or you get up and you're like, there's four people watching and not a single one of them is going to enjoy the show.

Nick DiPaolo (53:34)

And I had an incident in the audience. Husband and wife were yapping or whatever. I said, tell your wife to shut up. And he goes, it's my sister. I go, tulsa, what the a difference.

Steven Crowder (53:42)

Nice.

Nick DiPaolo (53:44)

All of a sudden he gets up and the wife gets up. They try to get on stage, both of them. And luckily there were two doormen that tackled them. I'm standing up there like a little.

Steven Crowder (53:54)

Go ahead, choke him out, Choke him out.

Nick DiPaolo (53:57)

But it was a good zing, you know?

Steven Crowder (53:58)

Yeah. Yeah. Well, at least they had their siblings. Spouses back.

Nick DiPaolo (54:02)

That's right.

Steven Crowder (54:04)

Let's get to. Yeah, I don't know if we have the guests, but we're going to have guests on in a little bit. Hopefully they're waiting in the wings here. Paulo figueiredo and Alan DeSantos. So this is big news this morning. Rumble and Trump media and technology group tmtg, they jointly sued the Brazilian Supreme Court. Justice Alexandria Alexander is what we've called him. I don't. He doesn't. We're not on a first name basis. We aren't in a Florida federal court. Now. Quick, quick note here. This lawsuit came mere hours after Marias received the indictment of the former President Bolsonaro, meaning prosecutors brought an indictment against the former president. Fan, friend of Trump, more conservative, pro liberty. Right. This judge now holds in his hands, indicting the former president as he runs interference for a Marxist, arguably dictator. Right now in Brazil, that's the temperature. Let me give you the why on this specific case and what it means for everyone here. And please, by the way, go out and support your Brazilian brothers and sisters because there are a lot of them who I guarantee you would love to be stateside here in America because they see the writing on the wall wall. And they're in a fight for the very fiber of their country. Mariah's issued an order that would ban basically some US based creators, Brazilians in America, from seeing creating content. This arguably right now, I don't know that it's been named, but it's specifically designed to try and silence Allen Desantos who will be on the show in a little bit. So basically you have a rogue judge in Brazil saying, hey, we want the American government or we want. It's so complicated. But here's what they want. They want to get rid of Brazilians who are in the United States, not even in Brazil anymore, from creating content. They want to ban Brazilians from seeing the content of Brazilians who are here in America. And they need the personal information of said creators to do that. Think of how scary that is. They're basically trying to extradite these people digitally for the crime of speech. Does that make it clear here?

Nick DiPaolo (56:10)

Can I ask a question?

Steven Crowder (56:12)

Yeah.

Nick DiPaolo (56:12)

I'm very ignorant on this subject. Does it matter whether these Brazilians in the United States as citizens now naturally, it's got nothing to do with that.

Steven Crowder (56:19)

Well, they might try and make the case, but it shouldn't because they're basically asking the United States. They're basically trying to violate our law.

Nick DiPaolo (56:25)

Right, right. Silence.

Steven Crowder (56:26)

Yeah. In other words, if you're a citizen or not here, the United States doesn't just ban you for speech and certainly doesn't hand your information over to a tyrannical government. And if you know what this government wants to do to these, by the way, way journalists, it's terrifying. So Rumble and President Trump want to have the court declare this order from arise unenforceable in the United States. So think about this for a second, what this decision means. It will set the precedent for companies like Google and YouTube or meta Facebook X. Right. Will you side with the United States, our constitutionally protected rights, or not even a foreign government, a foreign rogue judge. You want to talk about foreign interference, telling America how we moderate speech? Does it get any more clear than that? That's what this lawsuit is about. For people who don't remember, Brazil banned rumble flat out 2023. They banned it. I know. You think they can do that? Because if you're American, yes. Other governments can do that. They can simply ban entire platforms if they don't like what is being said there. Yeah. What happened last week is Rumble was then restored after Brazil rescinded the censorship order. And an important contrast too here, by the way, and this is not Me patting myself on the back. But Chris and the people at Rumble, there's a reason that we signed a contract with Rumble. There's a reason that we teamed up with Rumble X, Elon Musk, doing a lot of great work, certainly Doge, huge fan of it. But X did back down. They did kneel before Brazil on demands and they did censor content creators after saying they wouldn't. They said they would. Fighting for a little bit. Then they did. Rumble never did.

Nick DiPaolo (58:09)

Yeah.

Steven Crowder (58:09)

In the entire process. And X did it quietly. Yes. They went out and said, we will if this is a free speech platform. All right, let's ban them. Let's get rid of them. Rumble's the only one that has been in the thick of it this entire time, in case you guys don't understand and just how evil I would argue this judge has been. Let's go through his history of censorship, right. Maria's. He ordered retraction of a magazine article that was exposing corruption in the Brazilian Supreme Court. He tried to ban Telegram completely in Brazil. The app, encrypted app, where people communicate. And I would imagine that's probably where they criticized the government and Supreme Court of Brazil. And of course, he tried to force Rumble to remove accounts completely. And when they didn't remove accounts, they banned Rumble outright. This is a man who, by the way, in Brazil, they have more power than here in the United States. These Supreme Court justices who wants to have complete control over what the public see and hear. And now he's extending it to trying, trying to tell us in the United States what kind of laws we will enforce or create. It would basically require new laws to do this and to sell out these American loving Brazilians who are pointing out corruption in the government. And by the way, some Brazilians, well, some Brazilians support these people, just like here in the United States, they support the censorship. Like Ted Lieu right now, who's on cnn. You have people here who are willing participants. Basically, what we are seeing here is some Brazilians in America are saying bad things about the Brazilian government. So the Brazilian government is attempting to ban them, not just in Brazil, but in America as well. So here to discuss, are Brazilians in America saying bad things about the Brazilian government? Alan Desantos and Paulo Figueiredo. And for those out there, please do follow these gentlemen. Support them. Paulo Figueiredo is at Real Pfigurado on X. Allen Desantos is Alan L. Desantos on X. Gentlemen, are you both there? Can you see me, hear me, me?

Paulo Figueiredo (60:17)

Yes, I can Hear me.

Steven Crowder (60:20)

I can hear both of you, and both of you look far more polished than I do right now. I don't know what kind of backlighting you have, but you look like a biracial angel. Now, let me ask you guys, is there anything that I've missed? And how scary is this for you right now?

Alan Desantos (60:38)

Well, I guess it's pretty scary. I was indicted with President Bolsonaro yesterday, also part of the Disney World coup d'etat. So it's pretty scary. The only reason why Alan and I are not in a prison is because we are in the United States. So I've been living here for 11 years now, and Alan has been here under political asylum as well. So it's. It's very scary. And I think it should be scary for everyone in the world because it's part of a global trend. And what Morais has done in Brazil was done in a certain little different manner in the United States, but it's the same theory behind it. Through big techs, through people in the deep state government, calling people from meta and screaming at them to remove content. In Brazil, things were more blunt. Moraes just gave orders and threatened to send people to prison. But it's the same trend. And this is part of what JD Vince was talking about last week on his speech in Europe. It was a global trend. And the worst part of it, and I say that because United States, my country, too, is because it was all funded by the United States. Mirais was fully funded by usaid, and we're getting more and more proofs of that. And it was part of the United States policy, foreign policy, to export this censorship that they implemented successfully here in the United States and led to Joe Biden becoming the president in 2020. So Marais is a product of that United States foreign policy. He was empowered by that. So I think we're here in the United States and we're happy that this is happening, that the country's turning to the right direction. But the rest of the world is still feeling the results of this disastrous foreign policy that the Biden administration implemented during four years. That's very sad.

Steven Crowder (62:43)

Well, and I know we had both of you here, and we obviously have had these Ash Wednesdays and had you on quite a few times. Alan, I wanted to ask you, was this a surprise to you? Did you guys kind of think, okay, at least I'm safe if I get out of that jurisdiction and maybe get stateside? And they're coming for you in this country now, too?

Paulo Figueiredo (63:02)

Yeah, for me, it's A pretty good thing that Morise is being accountable.

Steven Crowder (63:08)

Why?

Paulo Figueiredo (63:09)

Because I was, I was talking to some friends of mine that were celebrating everything that Doge and Trump are doing right now. But somehow we have seen this movie in Brazil, you know, like unmasking the corruption, showing who was corrupted and so forth. But they never have been hold accountable.

Steven Crowder (63:28)

Right.

Paulo Figueiredo (63:29)

So the next step is very important. So to see what's going on in the United States right now. It's pretty good. But I want to see every criminal here holding accountable.

Steven Crowder (63:40)

Right.

Paulo Figueiredo (63:40)

Because that's what happened in Brazil. We exposed them. We exposed them in Lava Jato scheme. We exposed them in Mansalam Petrolone. We have a lot of scandals involving the Supreme Court, involving the Workers Party, involving all the communists down there. Because we expose them. They found a way to censor us wherever we would be. Live streaming.

Steven Crowder (64:04)

Yeah.

Paulo Figueiredo (64:05)

And this is, this is very important to say that when you mentioned before, they have more power there than here in the United States. I was listening carefully when you say that because for a few, you know, like that was a tiny piece that did not make the Democrat Pacific back the Supreme Court in the United States.

Steven Crowder (64:27)

Right.

Paulo Figueiredo (64:28)

So that would, that would happen here of course United States too. And, and, and if, if Trump wouldn't win the election, if people did not understand correctly that we need Trump as a president, we would be facing right now the Democrat not complaining about Elon Musk, but harassing Elon Musk, harassing everyone and put everyone in prison. And also pack the Supreme Court because that what happened in Brazil. I can imagine demarize holding accountable here for violating US laws.

Steven Crowder (65:01)

That's pretty good. I do hope that that is what transpires. Also, just on sort of a side note, do you guys find it gut bustingly sort of urinate yourself hilarious that AP is claiming a violation of the first Amendment their rights here because are not personally being invited on Air Force One. Considering you guys are being fitted for an orange jumpsuit.

Alan Desantos (65:23)

I think they should go to Brazil. I think they should go to Brazil. Try talking badmouthing Alexander Moraes. I think that's what they should do. I think they would get the VIP treatment. They would get uber black airport to a very nice hotel with free meals and free clothing as well. So I think they should try that.

Steven Crowder (65:49)

That's one way to look at it. You're ever the optimist looking out for the other guy. Yeah, this is where we. Let me ask you this actually, because in the United States we know that the media is corrupt and we obviously see this not only with you said, but this goes back to Barack Obama and journalist. You obviously are journalists, but I want to ask you, beyond the government, what has the tone been with other Brazilian journalists? Is it like here where they lean far left all the time? And so you guys are kind of the two odd men out, or do they see the writing on the wall and are they concerned about their freedom as journalists? Have they defended you or have they sort of distanced themselves?

Alan Desantos (66:27)

Some of them have been journalists for a long time. Brazil mainstream media is just as dead as. As it is the mainstream media in the United States. I think it's even worse there. They don't care for free speech anymore. It used to be a consensus in the Western world until five years ago that you should not silent dissidents and different political opinions. But right now in Brazil, I'd say 90%, 95% of the mainstream media actually applauded what happened to Alan and what happened to me? Yeah, like I said, remember I had the number one political show in on TV in the country until 2022. They shut me down. And instead of actually saying, wow, this is dangerous, 99 of the journalists said, well, he's not really a journalist. He's a. They call me and Alan's the same thing. They call it. They call him a blogger, a YouTuber, a social media influencer. And the funny thing is that I actually went to journalism school. Most of them didn't. And I was on mainstream media tv. I've written for US Papers, Brazilian papers, and they still call me and now even the federal police of my country, they refuse to call me journalists. They call me entrepreneur, which I am as well. Sure, I'm an economist. Yes, I am an economist as well. But mainly my profession is journalists. I don't know what's your master's or your bachelor's degree says if you're reporting news and commenting on it, you're a journalist. That's the definition.

Nick DiPaolo (68:11)

You're a podcaster.

Steven Crowder (68:12)

Yeah, exactly. That's how they go podcast. Yeah. That's what they always do too.

Nick DiPaolo (68:16)

That's what I am.

Paulo Figueiredo (68:17)

There is a point they're very interesting that you make. Like if someone was kind of defending us when I was using ter, my company in Brazil, when I was operating in Brazil, my channel was the Breitbar of Brazil.

Steven Crowder (68:34)

Like the.

Paulo Figueiredo (68:35)

The Imagine Bright bar in this prime time. Yeah, in the beginning. So everyone that started broadcasting in Brazil and getting successful, they passed through Teslivri before. So all of them started in there and Paulo.

Steven Crowder (68:51)

Yeah.

Paulo Figueiredo (68:52)

Including Paolo. So when Paulo was on mainstream media defending me, he got punished, Right? They delivered this message, if you go defending all the people that I'm going after, you're going to be persecuted, too. Louis Lacombe, who is here with me, he is now we are in a Timeline magazine. It's a new project that we have here in United States. He was in the biggest TV broadcast in Brazil, global. It's very famous. He was a journalist in there for 20. More than 20 years. He has more than 30 years of experience doing journalism. He was doing sports and so forth. And then he got a. A show, like entertainment. Entertainment show for morning. Morning show. Yeah, In Brazil. And he invited me to. To go there. I'm talking about TV, not YouTube, Internet. He got fired at the end of the show just because he invited me.

Nick DiPaolo (69:59)

Wow.

Steven Crowder (69:59)

Wow. Yeah. It doesn't. I mean, yes, it's terrible, but it doesn't surprise me. Again, as someone who's, you know, been in media really since I was a teenager, and I've spoken about it with Nick, too. It's unfortunately been the same thing in the comedy side a lot. It's not all the comedians, but it's a lot of bookers. It's a lot of producers, like you mentioned with hbo. And what's the first thing they do is say, oh, this person's not funny. This person's not a comedian. Or, oh, this person's not a journalist. Well, hold on a second. Are they reporting news? Are they exposing corruption? Are they breaking news? They're a journalist. Well, hold on a second. Are people paying to go see that person? Make them laugh. They're a comedian. You may not like it, but they just go through this whole sequence of discredit, denying, denying, and then eventually discrediting. I think Gerald has a question and we're going to continue, of course, for those who aren't members on Rumble Premium, which allows us to do all of this. Gerald. Yeah, yeah. So, Paulo and Alan, I'll ask you to answer the same question after he does. But Paulo, if you can just go ahead.