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Steven Crowder
Lowes knows how to get you ready for holiday hosting with up to 35% off select home decor and get up to 35% off select major appliances. Plus members get free delivery hallway, basic installation parts and a 2 year Lowe's protection plan. When you spend $2500 or more on select LG major appliances. Valid through 10. One member offer excludes Massachusetts, Maryland, Wisconsin, New Jersey and Florida. Installed by independent contractors. Exclusions apply. See Lowes.com for more details. Hey, not glad at all to be with you under these circumstances. I don't think anyone is. There's no good way to cover this. There's no good way to handle this and I think everyone is. We have to be here anyway and this is heartbreaking for everyone. I'm going to try and find the right words here today. Here's what I ask for. I ask for grace all around because emotions are high for everyone and people sometimes are misinterpreted. Let's not try and score any points. There are children who don't have a father, the Kirk family who's affected forever. It's not a game. The left is not playing games and neither should you. And right now for a very rare occasion, we're streaming live wide to YouTube and this is going to be very short lived. If you are on YouTube. The whole reason for rumble is days like today. Head on over because the kinds of things that I'm going to be saying probably get the channel nuked on YouTube. And let me be really clear here. I am not advocating. This is an inflection point. I am not advocating for violence, wanton violence against the left. I am not advocating for a civil war. I'm not advocating for anything that should be a violation of Big Tech's policy that forbids you from fighting back. But it's gonna get really fucking close. That's where I am. I hope I've made myself clear. Let me just start with this. This morning and you've seen this now, our undercover team who did some work here, best in the world. I'll just say Jay, codename Jay, who got this this morning was a leak from someone who was a longtime viewer of the show and works under the doj. And so he released this and now the media, the rest of the media is confirming it. There was a briefing confirming it. I want to read this to you because there's a lot of misinformation going around. On September 10, 2025. This comes from our source at approximately 12:24pm Conservative Political Influencer Charlie Crook Was shot and killed at the Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah. Let me make sure I get. Yeah, okay. This is the stuff that you know. Mr. Kirk was multiple. SLC 1 and 3 agents responded immediately. The suspect fired one shot from an elevated position on a rooftop in an adjacent building on the campus. And surveillance video shows a suspect jumping off and fleeing the area on foot. ATF and other law enforcement located an older model imported Mauser.30 06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspect's route of travel. The spent cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds at the top. Fed magazine. All cartridges have engraved wording on them expressing transgender an anti fascist ideology. An emergency trace has been submitted. An ATF SLC is working. Leads generated by the trace, the firearm and ammunition have been taken by the FBI. DNA analysis and fingerprint impressions. Upon completion of forensics, the firearm will be disassembled for additional important information. Multiple people of interest having contacted or detained because of eyewitnesses, testimony and review of the video footage. The primary suspect is yet to be identified. ATF is assisting the investigation with multiple other. You know the rest. Engraved with trans and anti fascist antifa ideology. I know yesterday we all thought it. We all prayed and hoped. Evil, senseless, enabled and abetted. People say, who could have seen this coming? Teacher? Everyone. Everyone was paying attention. Before we open this in prayer, I want to thank the undercover unit who did this and helped to catch the bastard. And I hope it hurts. I hope it hurts. I hope it's unpleasant. Because Charlie Kirk and his family did not deserve at all what he got. But whoever this person is deserves it to hurt. And whoever pops their head up and even attempts any act of violence, not even taking a shot. I'm not advocating that you take violence into your own hands. Let me be clear. I am advocating now going forward hair trigger defense. Because you, we and Charlie that day, make no mistake, was hunted. We are being hunted. This is terrorism. And I don't want to hear about both sides. Charlie Kirk's death was the direct result of of leftist terrorism in America. Let me make that case. There are only a couple of people who've been in that chair surrounded on campus. I know what it's like. Had the assaults come. I'm just speaking from experience. I've lived that nightmare over a hundred times in my life. Happens after the first one, two or three death threats or assaults that Charlie had to live through too. And he had to live through that. While the media that now pretends like they had respect for him, called him a Nazi. And now they want to say, hey, let's cool temperatures. Hey, let's simmer this down. Okay, I will. When you bring Charlie back. I will. When you unpropagandize every single person who you made to believe that Charlie and all of us are Nazis and committing a genocide and racist and sexist. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. If a real Nazi, if a real genocidal Hitler was sitting there out in the open, if you believed it, if you really believe it, you thought that person was gonna kill 6 million Jews, would you take the shot now? Add mental illness and fucking hormones. Yeah. Yeah. We'll put that genie back in the bottle. You first. Why is it we're always. Why is it incumbent upon us to cool temperatures and we're the only ones getting shot, getting hit with bike locks, getting rocks in the head, getting ice picks? You've lived through it with me. It's terrorism. You know what these people want? Charlie Kirk's death is the result of leftist terrorism in America. Because they. They made this really clear. Hey, hey, hey, Charlie. Hey. Well, it could be Ben Shapiro. Could be me, could be any one of you. Hey, do you want to impact the country? Do you want to change minds? Do you want to affect people's hearts and minds? How much do you. Do you want it more than your children to have a father? That's the message. But you let cooler heads prevail. And you know why this source gave this to us? Do you know why this person under the atf, they were rightfully concerned that it may be buried. And I hope you appreciate the world that you live in, that's lesser with someone like Charlie Kirk gone. But before this place, and before people like Charlie, before that, there was an era where, my God, you had to rely on the people. Cnn, Fox News. And if they chose not to cover this, you would never know. Hey, maybe someone else would have covered this. Maybe the Wall Street Journal would tell you this was clearly what seems to be a radical trans ideologue who committed terrorism and an assassination. Maybe. Or maybe. Maybe they wouldn't have covered it if it hadn't already gotten out. Nashville Manifesto, DOJ prosecuting Trump. Jay Varma, Covid, architect, lockdown. That they didn't respect themselves. Maybe it would have been like that. You think none of these outlets had it? This source was afraid that it would be same old, same old, and that Charlie Kirk's death would be in vain. Fight like hell takes on a whole new meaning now. Just like people have said, you know, they're not after Trump, they're after you. He's in the way. The same can be said, Charlie Kirk. The same can be said for anyone. Anyone who goes out and risks life and limb to express a political opinion. And the other side acts with impunity. They act with impunity. Presidents, of course, both sides, highest profile person on earth. Show me the last time, let alone multiple times, that a liberal commentator was murdered and assaulted. Because our side doesn't do that, and you shouldn't do that, but you should have no tolerance. It's real life out there. It's real life out there, guys. In the real world, there are psychos, or as the let's refers to them, useful pawns. Useful pawns. And if anyone else out there, by the way, has any more information, because aside from prayers and heartbreak and mourning for Charlie Kirk and his family, what do we do going forward? I'm gonna do the only thing that I know how to do that's fight back. That's try and shine a light on truth. And you guys have helped. You guys have changed the country. People like Charlie have inspired you to change the country. People doing things that weren't being done. So please, if you see anything else, if you know anything, send your information to lwctipsonmail.com just like this person will protect our sources with our life. And boy, do we mean that literally. Because every one of us in this position, every one of us knows that it's a possibility. Guarantee you Charlie knew that, lived with it, and did it anyway. Gerald, if you can. I think I already said a lot, but I know it was to pray for us, to have the right words of wisdom and insight. And I guess I spoke outside of the prayer umbrella, so hopefully I don't spontaneously combust, but I think you'll be okay.
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Gerald
But really quickly, I know a lot of people have been saying they don't pray often, but they have been kind of led to pray. Now, I think that's a great response to this. And prayer is simple. So we're just going to pray real quick. Father, we just thank you for the opportunity to come here and to be before you and to live in this wonderful and great country. But there are days like this where we just don't know what to say. We don't know what to pray. We don't really have words to adequately express kind of how we're feeling, Father, but we know that you Understand, we know that you experienced all the emotions that are possible for us. And so we just pray that you would be with everybody affected by this, first and foremost, the members of Charlie's family, everybody close to him, the millions of people that he touched and touched their lives around this country that woke up feeling this emptiness inside of them. Lord, that really doesn't have a whole lot of comparison in our lifetimes. Lord, we just need you. We need you to be with every single person in whatever way you do it, Lord, because we don't know. We don't understand how you do it, but you give us peace that goes beyond understanding. And, Lord, I pray that everybody would understand that Charlie is in your presence now. As much sadness as there is here for those of us left behind, Charlie's message was to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and to have salvation through that. And I pray that that's what people turn to now. So as we talk about this and every other subject we cover, Lord, I pray that we do it well, that we would do it accurately and that we would honor you with it. In Jesus name, amen.
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Steven Crowder
Amen. Amen. And before I move on, I'll just let you know that, of course, the press. By the way, if you could kill the. Because I know we have a lot of people. Kill the mics just for a little bit until we bring everyone in. Gerald, Josh. And my dad is here because he's actually had a lot of firsthand experience. Pops Crowder with security issues. It's still going on. What do I mean by that? Is the left is still trying to spin this, and if we allow them to, that's what makes all of this more meaningless. This morning, Business Insider reached out to me after we leaked this, and they asked how yesterday's events would change conservative media and appearances going forward. This is this morning. And I responded. I haven't changed, but it's clear that we're now being hunted. So now the approach does fight like hell takes on a whole new meaning. And they reached out and said, well, can you clarify what that means, the approach? And my response was no. Why? Because I still think that people want to twist it. Charlie Kirk was brutally murdered by leftist terrorists, and they want you to be on your heels. Hey, hey. Both sides, man. Nope. Nope. And let me. Let me. When I say this, who'd have seen this coming? Everyone. And I don't mean this specific incident with Charlie, this specific tragedy. I mean us getting to this place. And the left is going to try and gaslight you and make it seem like it's both sides or it's you. But let me tell you, I've been here for. And I've experienced this more assaults than I could list for you. And every single time, the same thing happened with Charlie Kirk. Every single time, it was. Well, that's not the. Come on. Well, it's not usually a psycho tranny. To be clear, you've watched three of them. You've watched. And the exact behavior. And by the way, criminal violent behavior, assaults, sometimes with a weapon, were dismissed, weren't covered, were condoned and just replaced. What you see, a bike lock, a lunchbox, a rock with a gun. There's enough damage. Everyone cares. But what about all the times beforehand? And that's the specter everyone has to live under. If you. My God. Charlie. Charlie Kirk was killed by a terrorist. Think about thinking. Think about this for a second. The right is afraid of expressing their opinions very often. And right now, you probably have some rage in you, and you probably have some things that you want to say, but you're afraid to express it, lest you be taken out of context or someone uses it against you. Charlie Kirk sat down at a table with people and they took his life anyway. And I've sat at that table many times. And by the skin of my teeth, I'm still here. Because there are plenty of examples you can point to where an inch difference, a change of the weapon in the hand, and this could have happened. And there was never from legacy media or the left. An outcry bringing temperatures down. I'll give you one example that I went through here. We could have lowered temperatures there. Screamed at, verbally assaulted. Then this crazy psycho tranny grabs a homeless man's pencil case lunchbox and whips it at. Whipped it from the exact same angle. Yes, Toolman.
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Josh
Do we want to play this on YouTube?
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Steven Crowder
No, I thought we were off YouTube. I said five minutes on YouTube. Don't kill YouTube. Sorry. I didn't tell you to kill the YouTube stream. I'm sorry. From the exact same angle as Charlie Kirk was shot. And when I said, don't we think that's maybe not something we should have here? I was told you're fine. Yeah, we're always fine. Conservatives. Until we're not. That's how this goes. It goes violence, violence, crime, crime, crime, crime, crime. Charlie Kirk. Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. Nothing done. Fine, fine, fine, fine. Dead. And then people act like they care and want to ask you to change your tone. Well, let me ask you this. Why didn't we cool down temperatures when exactly this happens? And just so you know, and I know what this feels like for someone like Charlie, and he's obviously brave and he did it anyway. What you see when you see Charlie composed, when you see Charlie articulate, if it's anything like when I was in that chair, he's terrified. He's terrified. I tell you, when this happened, what you see, I was terrified. But it was all fine. And I'm sick and tired of this debate. Men need to respect women, period. So you should respect women. I've known women that have been raped multiple times, gruesomely. And how dare you sit up here and try to say that women aren't worth respect you? I didn't say that. I am a woman. I just became a woman. It's just like, Are you kidding me? People don't even respect me, period. And I'm. I mean, I'm already black, so it's just like. Yeah, that already goes against me anyways, but still. You piece of living garbage ass dumpster fire. Trash gum on the bottom of my shoe.
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Pops Crowder
Oh, my God, I wish I had.
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Steven Crowder
A tissue for the blood. I would. I suggest it's your behavior, not because you're black or a woman.
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Gerald
A country where guilty until proven innocent, yes, we'd be rotting in a jail.
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Steven Crowder
But I. I know of. I know of a story just recently, and I'm sorry, I can't come up with. I can't say the name of this individual. Come on, that's inappropriate. Sweetheart, you feel better? Oh. Are you offended by what I said? No, I just don't think it's necessary. Aren't you just feeding into it? You do realize that's a violent crime, correct? You're fine. Ah, so because there's no damage done, you're fine. Okay? Cause there's no. Damn. There's your answer. You're not dead yet. You're not dead yet. Could that have just as easily been a gun? Remember the headlines? Antagonizes trannies. Same thing with Charlie Kirk. It's fine until someone's dead. That right there, what you just watched, is terrorism. And we've had to live under the threat of that for a very long time. You think you should have anything thrown at you because of an opinion that was completely inoffensive until four years ago? That there's such thing as men and women. You think Charlie Kirk deserved to be shot because he wants lower fucking taxes, cool down temperatures? Well, how about. How about you cool it down by caring about the person who was the victim of violent assault as opposed to that person committing it before it gets to be a 30 06. It's the reason we have laws, because these are indicators of future behavior. You want to know how I know the left is going to continue enabling this and gaslighting and we can't let that that happen because that's exactly what all of us, meaning you, me, and certainly Charlie Kirk fought against. Bring up what CNN just said there, Gerald. Oh, give him his mic. Be on top of it today, Billy.
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Gerald
All right, so what CNN said as we were talking about this, we captured the article here. Cultural phrases were scrawled on the ammo.
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Steven Crowder
They know cultural phrases.
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Gerald
You know how I know that they know? They said they had it on their lower third. They said it on air. I saw it there. You know, I know that they know because the Wall Street Journal picked it up and reported on it. Cnn, cultural phrases, anti fascist trans ideology. That's not cultural phrases.
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Steven Crowder
Right, Right. And we want to know.
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Gerald
We wouldn't know. We wouldn't know. Just to your point, a minute ago, we would never know what was written on those things.
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Steven Crowder
We would never know if, if not for the best on earth, Jay, who did this work? Thank him. Send your tips and that's all. Your support, your membership that makes it happen. People trust him. Why? Because he's never gotten one wrong. And someone who works in these departments, agencies that are supposed to protect you and people like Charlie, he was concerned enough that it would be buried from said agencies and departments that he sent it to the undercover unit of a comedy show. What chance do you think we have of them being honest if ninjas like Jay don't exist? Maybe you would have known, maybe you wouldn't. I know you wouldn't with some of the other stories. And let me just go back to one point here. We're going to have, I believe, Megan Kelly on a little later to talk about this. People say, hey, oh, man, who could have seen this coming? Everyone, every one. When I tell you that I have you ever had a dream? You ever had a dream that felt so real? You swear you were there? I have had that dream to some varying degree of what we saw yesterday over a hundred times. And I can't imagine that anyone in these positions hasn't. Only in my dream, I'll tell you, my spirit is still there, able to see my children mourning or someone telling them that they don't have a dad because I might have said I'm pro second amendment, changed my mind. It's not like this is something that was a speck in the distance that maybe could possibly. No, Charlie Kirk and everyone who does this and everyone who enters the arena has experienced being not just name called, slandered, defamed. Watching people be propagandized into believing that we are all Nazis and fascist like you see on the round engravings, and committing genocide against transgenders and sexist and racist and my God, a threat to democracy. And they're smart enough to know that there are mentally ill people out there because oh my God, the conversation always shifts to mental illness after the fact. So someone like Charlie had to sit there, have that, go out there nonstop, know that people believed it. And throughout years, years of doing these kinds of things, experience assaults, experience violent crimes, watch them escalate, Watch the propaganda in the media generating ginning up hate. Watch it. Watch it get worse and worse and know how it ends. And see no one on the left care anyway. And then feign surprise. What do you know how I know the left knows what they're doing? Tell me if you can spot it. Years of this, Charlie. All of us. This is how it goes.
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Pops Crowder
I have toolbox. I have like on the border between.
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Steven Crowder
Just a regular rifle and an assault weapon. And a sawed off style. Yeah, like Last Ditch here with the dent on the. On the side. On the driver's side. That's mine. This one's like tiny. So you have to really stab him. Yeah, yeah, like Last Ditch is gonna be. He was just down there at President Circle. They were handing out sharp objects to stab people with. Said they had someone coming with an ak. Why did it take two late night hosts comedians to find this out? I. You know what?
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Josh
I wish you guys luck.
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Steven Crowder
I hate y' all so much. Y' all are the reason people are laughing at this country. How hard is it to wear a mask for other people? You got a gun. We don't want anybody. I'll kill with a gun. I killed 20 with the gun. Light switch after Friday at 6. 6pm because he's so Jewish, you think he's an alt right Nazi? Well, considering that he supports a genocidal apartheid state, yes, I would say he is an oxygen genocide. You mean like eugenics? Like we're talking about here? Abortion? We went to a Planned Parenthood Margaret's thing. That's bull assault. So that's the refna genetics and back to the brain scans.
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Pops Crowder
You cut that out now or you'll.
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Steven Crowder
Go home in an ambulance. Yeah, that seems mildly inappropriate for a political discussion. Sure.
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Pops Crowder
A bunch of white Europeans coming into a place I haven't been to in thousands of years.
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Steven Crowder
How are you?
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Pops Crowder
Is this Steven crowd?
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, I didn't. You want a piece of me for a long time?
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Pops Crowder
Go yourself, you piece of.
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Steven Crowder
If I was John Cena, I bet you you'll me. If I was Dwayne the Rock Johnson, you'll me. Nobody wants to here, man. You might as well wanna get out of here, man. Leave me the alone, man. Don't touch, bro. Don't touch me, bro. Well, I'm not gonna touch you, but you don't. I'm no witchcraft fool. I understand. I'm gonna curse you and your firstborn son. Would you like to ask me questions?
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Gerald
Really?
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Steven Crowder
Yeah. Would you like to ask me questions? You can sit down right after Maddie. Here's the question.
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Gerald
Why are you a mouthpiece for the alt light?
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Steven Crowder
What's the alt. Why are you a gateway point for alt right politics? How do you feel about being called a fascist?
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Gerald
I don't care being lied about.
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Steven Crowder
Why is it a lie? Because I'm not a fascist. And let me tell you something too. People say, where have you ever changed your mind? Where have I changed? And it's changed over the years. But this is an inflection point. This is an inflection point. If you would ask me, and let me be really clear, I'm not condoning, I'm not endorsing, I'm not supporting committing acts of violence, going out in vigilantism. Okay, I think we're all adults here. But if I were to hear five years ago someone saying, it's getting to that point, it's getting to that point where there's going to be blood in the streets, I would go, whoa, this person's. This person's pretty radical. This is an extremist. If that was the era of. Of Bush, Kerry, you know what the difference is today? I would go. Well, I would discourage it, but go. I get it, I get it. It's not irrational, it's not illogical. Because I know that a lot of you out there right now feel like you have a binary decision. Now you don't, but it's easy to think, okay, option one, there's already blood in the streets, but it's a drip, drip, drip, drip, drip. And it's only our blood, so maybe shed more on both sides. If you thought that was a binary decision, I could understand that. There are other decisions to make. You can support, you can have a voice, you can make a difference. And I will say, you can switch your mindset. To a hair trigger defense. And I have zero guilt in expressing that. That bike lock could just as easily be a knife. That rock. That lunchbox could just as easily be a gun. We used to say it just as easily could, but now it has been. It has been. And I don't want violence in the streets any more than you. And I don't want civil war any more than you. I don't want it at all. But you know what I want? Less. Less of the Kirk children who have to grow up without a dad because he had opinions on taxes and abortion. Less of the people who were slaughtered at a Catholic school in Nashville. Or more. I mean, how many times? That's more important to me. Defend yourself and defend this country. And please, please, please, if nothing else comes out of this, treat real life like real life and be safe. Is this a flashpoint? Yes. But the world would be a lot better off if Charlie Kirk was still around. I'd rather have him still around and I would rather have the next Charlie Kirk still around than be a flashpoint. Take the proper precautions. As much as you possibly can, know that when you go out there, it's not just Twitter memes. Make sure you're defending yourself. Make sure you have security, make sure you have awareness. You can't control the world. And I understand that there are evil people, but please, I see so many of you out there for clicks doing it so recklessly. And there's been a shift in this country. Here's more proof that I know there's been a shift because I've had these conversations. By the way, one thing, Tim, I'm just going to say that bothers me. You're not going to see me do is people say, and Charlie Kirk and I were really good friends and I know they've never spent time with the guy. Charlie Kirk and I were not close friends. I don't know him that well. We've always been cordial, running the same circles. But I know what he stands for and I know what I respect him for. Let's make this about truth, not about clout chasing, not about click chasing. Take the proper precautions. I, having sat in that chair and having been in these situations, saw something like this coming. It's why I haven't done change my mind in many years. And I told you about it.
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Megyn Kelly
And.
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Steven Crowder
I watched the left dismiss it, they dismiss it, they dismiss it, they dismiss it and it's fine until it's not here. Over the course of years, I explained to you why it was becoming less and Less possible to do. We've been doing change my mind for a long time. We've been getting so. We've had to shut down tables because of violence. We had to shut down shows because of threats of violence.
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Gerald
And hire a lot of security.
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Steven Crowder
People hire a lot of security. To put it simply, the left is losing because they can't help themselves from lying. Yeah, that's what it is. They cannot help themselves from lying. This is like Nazi Germany. Trump is separating families. The economy is worse than ever. We are least. We are less respected than we've ever been as a nation. None of these things are true. And that's the same reason they can't figure out why they're losing is because no one's that good a liar. For me, honestly, like, you know this, I was more carefree before other people stepped in and said, hey, look, this is at that point where you have to actually, you actually have to be pretty cautious about this. And especially as a father and wanting to be around for my kids. Yeah. As you get older, you can't take the same risks. Something like it changed my mind. That is many, many, many thousands of dollars that day just to have security, just to have the perimeter done. And we have had people. One guy tried to bash me over the head with a rock. We've had people call to firebomb my car, slash my tires. And there are some other threats that I won't even discuss here because you don't want any copycats. They're investigations that can be ongoing. I've always told people that if you're in a crowded area, protesters or things are getting out of hand. Doesn't matter if it's a milkshake, doesn't matter if it's brass knuckles. You do need to set a perimeter and not let someone get that close to you where they can do physical harm. Not saying go out and assault them, but for me, it's arm's length. I don't let someone I don't know get within arm's length. People do need to make sure that they understand that there are real world consequences. There's sort of social media drama. But when you are in a real world scenario where there could be an act of violence, keep your head in a swivel and keep a perimeter so that you just avoid those scenarios. I've had people take swings at me when we've gone out and done change my minds. We've had the, the beautiful, brave, transgender males who, you know, threw a homeless man's lunchbox at me, try to steal my sign. But, like, especially when we've had women out there, you guys have always known, I said, like, hey, protect, protect them. Make sure that they're safe. Yeah, I have to make sure that I control myself, that I don't go apeshit, livid, crazy if someone hurts a member of my crew. And that's why we stopped doing it wasn't feasible. Nothing we do, nothing we say will bring Charlie Kirk back. That's the sad reality. But we can choose how we move forward and we can choose how we fight. We can do that. And it starts with you being mindful and it starts with you being safe. And then it starts with you not caring. It continues with you not caring what the left thinks about you or says about you. Because ultimately, if given the chance, they will take your life anyway. I believe we have on and then we're going to go to Pops Crowder. You can, of course, she's been here quite a few times. Host of the Megyn Kelly Show. Do we have her? We're still uplinking.
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Gerald
Just one second.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah. And I also, as I understand it, we may be getting some more tips. Is that a thumbs up for okay for Megyn Kelly? Let me know about those tips on the host of the Megyn Kelly show on X at Megyn Kelly. Let's talk about this with someone who's been around for a long time as well, Megyn Kelly. Hey, Megan, how are you?
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Megyn Kelly
Oh, Stephen, hanging in there. How about you?
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Steven Crowder
Same, same. What are your thoughts of, you know, you're someone who's done this, obviously been in more traditional media, you know, Fox News and when you're working at Maine Network and now an independent media. I don't call it new media anymore. It's just media. So you've been here a long time. Is this something that's completely unexpected to you or have you sensed this shift, too, and saw, unfortunately, something like this happening?
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Megyn Kelly
Well, I mean, the threat profile has gone up for a lot of people who do what we do. I know you've experienced that. So have I. So have a lot of people who are doing it. But that doesn't change the fact that this feels like a before and after moment, you know that. I don't know with President Trump, it's not that you expected an assassination attempt on him, but we have seen that with political figures before and presidents before. I just don't remember anything like this where one of our most prominent public thought leaders who's not a politician, who's not running for office, who's Just commenting on news and cultural events has been shot down for doing that. There's no question. Now in the wake of your reporting this morning, you're exclusive now. Matched ultimately by the Wall Street Journal, too, that he was killed for his thoughts, he was killed for his speech. It's just so un American and disgusting. And now we're going to go through this pointless cycle of the left trying to say it's right wing rhetoric that has caused these problems and we're all going to sit on the right. Like, what in the actual F are you talking about? And my gut feeling today is I'm not even interested in them. I don't even give two shits what they have to say. I couldn't care less. It's all about us and how we feel and what we're going to do next.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, I agree. I think it's, for me, it's black and white. As much grace as possible for those on the right right now because emotions are high and I see some people playing gotcha. Let's really avoid that. And zero grace for the left. None assume the worst of intentions going forward. Now, that's my, that's my opinion. Did you see just today, this just happened. Did you see CNN's coverage just now?
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Megyn Kelly
Cultural issues.
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Steven Crowder
Cultural issues, yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
That's what liars they are. That's what it's like. Everyone knows, you know, at this point that they're so irrelevant and they're such a. Just a dead medium. It just doesn't work. And they're not trusted and they have no ratings and they have no one special. But I mean, so close to this, you want to be part of the problem. So close it hasn't even been 24 hours. And you want to lean into being part of the problem. Like we get the reveal, thanks to you, of what the motivation is. And that's where you want to go with it. You want to pretend it's something other than what it is. That's how we got here.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Megyn Kelly
That's how we got into this mess. They are not going to be part of any solution.
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Steven Crowder
No, no, they're not. There's no common ground. There's fighting back. And I said, this has been my change. And I know that we don't agree on all political issues, by the way. And I think that's why it's good for you to be here five years ago if someone were to say, you know what? And again, I've been very clear before you came on the show, not condoning, not supporting violence of Any just going out. Not but five years ago. If someone said, man, looks like there's going, it looks like it's blood in the streets time and we really have to. I would have been, whoa, that's a little bit sharp. That's a little radical in not supporting and not condoning it. Today when someone says it seems like there's blood in the streets and it's inevitable, I go, you know what? There are other ways. But I get it, I get it. Does that seem extreme to you? It doesn't seem irrational to me. Cuz our blood has been all over the streets for a long time and until someone dies, they don't give a shit. They excuse it.
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Megyn Kelly
You know, I know you're not rooting for it and I'm not rooting for it either. You're saying, as a practical matter, wouldn't that be the next logical thing to expect given how angry the right is, how victimized the right has been? I mean, truly, the left loves to play the victim. They love it when they're not. They invent fake ailments, disorders, etc. And claim victimization of white privilege and white anti black racism all the time when it doesn't exist. We actually are being victimized. There's no other word for what happened to Charlie Kirk yesterday.
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Steven Crowder
Haunted. They.
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Megyn Kelly
He was hunted and they victimized his beautiful wife and their beautiful children and all of us who loved him. And his message, that, that's actual victimization, a word I hate, but it happens to apply here. But they don't see it, you know, they don't see it. Like, I have had some people on the left reach out to me and say, I hope you're doing okay, I'm sorry. And I, you know, whatever, I appreciate the settlement. But like, until they actually listen to us, until they actually listen to what we're saying, stop calling us Nazis. Stop demonizing us for having completely within the mainstream thoughts about these hot button issues. Yeah, fuck them. Like I. What good does that do? It reminds me of when, when John Lennon was shot and his assassin was asked about it and he said he was sorry. And I think it might have been Walter Cronkite, but it was one like serious newsmen came on the TV afterward and his first reaction, which was very rare for the time because they didn't express their feelings openly at the time, was. And what good does that do? Yeah, and honestly, that's the feeling I'm having in response to almost all of those sentiments today.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, I got a couple of those texts. I Got one from somebody who was actively involved with the doxing of the house where my children sleep. Hope you're safe.
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Megyn Kelly
Oh, come on. Stop it.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, that's what we live through, and that's what I know you live through. I mean, I hope it's not a sore spot, but I've talked about you. It's just another microcosm with you and your people saying that Megyn Kelly's white supremacist. Your Diana Ross coming. I go. Do you realize that she was talking about girls who were fans at Halloween back in the day, dressing up as Diana Ross because they loved her. And she was saying, isn't that something like, that's not racist. And she was made to be a white supremacist for that. Here's the thing that. Drip, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip. There are people out there, Megan, who believe that you performed a minstrel show. There are people out there who believe that you would kill every single last transgender you could. And those people, if given a shot, would take it. They'd take it. And that's where we are.
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Megyn Kelly
It's infuriating. They do it. They do it with impunity, and they're never going to stop doing it. They don't care how many people they hurt. They have an agenda that they serve, and they serve it like. Like a Satan's disciple. I mean, they just. They'll never stop. They. You know, look what they did to John McCain. Look what they did to Mitt Romney. Look what they do to Donald Trump, who honestly is more of a Democrat than any Republican president we've ever had.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, right.
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Megyn Kelly
And still not good enough. It doesn't matter. They. They're celebrating on the left. I'm. I don't even have the stomach to go on Blue sky and see what they're saying right now about Charlie. I don't understand the lack of humanity in these people. And they're not going to stop. You know, like that instinct that we saw on MSNBC between Katie Tur and Matthew Dowd, to dehumanize Charlie literally within moments of him nearly getting his head blown off. I don't understand what that is. That's not human. That's not. Those are not two human people I can relate to or understand in any. Any way. There's no getting along with them. There's only defeating them. That's all there is. That can be the only mission right now.
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Steven Crowder
You're right. And you know what? This act of violence against Charlie, and I'm not saying that there's a silver lining anywhere in any of this. But I will say that's an admission that they've lost the left. It's an admission that they lost the war of ideas. And so this is what they resort to. And they do it because they're evil. If they're taking out someone who's sitting at a table expressing ideas, that means they know that they can't win on ideas. That's what I understand. And I do understand that people are evil. I think, you know, I came up under the tutelage of Breitbart. I was always, you know, comedy clubs and an online guy, and you just have to fight. These people are. They don't care. They don't care. There is true evil. Doesn't mean all. Doesn't mean all. People who vote Democrats, but people in the media, the people you're describing, the way I understand it is they have a heart of evil. And that's where I am. And I know you have a heart out, but please tell me that you are doing everything that you can to be safe. And this is the frog jumping out of the boiling water. But I really do hope that everyone out there who has a profile is very cautious right now, because this person is still out there.
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Megyn Kelly
I know. I know. Thank you, Stephen. And honestly, when I saw truly the motivation behind the assassination, too, of course, I wondered, would somebody be next? And do we need to, you know, take this into serious consideration? Of course we are. So, yes, we're. We're amplifying our security, just like I think most people on the right are doing. And you know what? That's a uniquely right phenomenon. I don't. I don't think the hosts of the View are worried about that shit today. I don't want them to have to worry about it to be clear.
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Steven Crowder
Right.
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Megyn Kelly
But, I mean, our side doesn't do that to them. We talk about them like, that's a lunatic idea. That's insane. This is crazy what they're saying. We don't start calling them Nazis. This is like the. The amount of dangerous rhetoric that they throw on our side over the most milquetoast, benign things. You know, it's like they're. It's not enough for them to diminish or criticize. They have to ruin and endanger our side. Like, that's where we're at, where now you. You've got half the figures on the right who have to walk around with teams of armed security. It's just beyond effed up. But, yeah, I am definitely taking precautions.
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Steven Crowder
All Right. Well, thank you, Megan. I appreciate it. And. And I appreciate the words. And I know that you've been praying for the. The Kirk family. I know you have a show to go do, the Megyn Kelly show here in 10 minutes, so thank you for taking the time. And. And I'm sure we'll all be in touch. Megyn Kelly, anytime.
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Megyn Kelly
Steven, stay. Well.
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Steven Crowder
I have. I have more to say today. We're gonna be wide all day. We're not going to rumble Premium mug Club, but we will be taking your chats, and none of this happens. Look, please, right now, take this chance to go subscribe, go support every person who's out there fighting for you. Yeah. Because you need to know, every time they do it, every time Charlie Kirk did it, he was risking life and limb. That's all of us. And I know that not all of you have a platform and have a voice, but there are some people who are willing to be that voice and fight for you. So not just us here, please go out, show support, send your prayers. Please do that. And if you feel so inclined, look, the reason we were able to get the leak today, Nashville Manifesto. Fight back. And we'll be here as long as we can. And by the way, security that we have to pay for all. It's your membership. We're supported by viewers like you. We don't have Raytheon as a sponsor. Consider joining up. You can click that button and let's open up so people can gift a subscription to other people if they want to. We're going to be taking your chats. Gerald was there.
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Gerald
Yeah. I just wanted to say, kind of echoing that, like that's, you know, they took Charlie, but they were really trying to take an idea, an ideology. They were really trying to take all of us out by doing this and trying to silence us. And there are moments in our lives that we can look back on as galvanizing moments. And it's very. I don't know what the right word is, but today is obviously the anniversary of September 11th. Right. And I think all of us living through that moment realized that something changed the next day, the next week. Neighborhoods that didn't have American flags had them. This sense of patriotism, this sense of putting aside petty differences and coming together and rallying around who we are as a people, that that sentiment was bigger and bolder and out more in public than I had ever seen it in my life. And I think this is one of those kinds of moments as well. We have an opportunity to rally around one another. That's why. Yes. Subscribe support here. Thank you for that. I appreciate but do it elsewhere. Not just here, guys, elsewhere. Go to these other places right now. I will support them, subscribe to their content, get support all of these people because they. We need to band together. Yes. We sometimes have differences and we talked about that. We're very open about that. It doesn't mean we hate anybody out there. We just have differences sometimes. But we have to be front and center so that they see that they cannot take this movement out. They will only make it stronger.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Gerald
Show them that today. Show them that over the coming weeks.
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Steven Crowder
And I will tell you this, the big difference between and Billy the Kid. You can open up all the mics because now I think everyone will have some input. And by the way, we have a seven plus one later because that's still our job is to entertain you. Difference between this and 911 is it's Americans. So called killing Americans. I don't want to rally with them. We used to rally as a country against foreign adversaries. I want you to rally when people say labels and teams. Yep. I want you to rally with your team and I want your head to be on a swivel for those who aren't. There's no hold hands. We are the world. There's no hold hands. We are all Americans until this genie gets put back in the bottle from the left. Until there is complete and full accountability from the left. And this is exclusively our problem. And we are the only ones who say Nazis and propagandize people and genocide. And you do have to look at the trends and we really are the side of violence. I mean, billions of dollars. We burned down cities based on a lie and, and, and thousands of casualties. And now Charlie Kirk and you know, we saw the warning signs and there were assaults and punches in the face and rocks being thrown and people being beaten with bike locks and a guy being shot in the head just for being a Trump supporter. I believe it was in Seattle. It's just us and we got to change this. And we understand why some people may think that they need to answer our violence that's been exclusively ours with violence. We understand it, but we, hey guys, let's, hey, let us start with helping cooler heads prevail. But when they try and put it on you after your blood and after your people, is it spilled dead? No. No. Never in human history has that worked. The only time that happens, the only other time in human history where someone or a group spills your blood, acts violently against you, and you end up on the same team. It's called conquering. Never did people have their blood spilled. Their guys get taken out and go, all right, hey, cool. No. Either they retreat the left, or they are going to continue conquering you. And since they can't conquer in the world of ideas, and that's what you saw with Charlie Kirk sitting at a table at that very moment. Charlie Kirk, words, ideas, and for the umpteenth time, actions and violence from the left. But you let cooler heads prevail, and then they pop. Psychologists gaslighting again. I don't know all of the accusations that the left made of Charlie. I just know that they're untrue. I don't know all of them. Guarantee you Nazi was in there. Guarantee you genocide was in there. Guarantee you trans erasure was in there. Guarantee you racist was in there. Guarantee you homophobic was in there. All I know is that they're all untrue. And we have to. I can tell you myself, you have people out there who, my God, might actually believe that I was in a marriage where I beat my wife. Why? Because the media tried to present that I'm one of the few people who incorporated court, you know, is verifiably, completely untrue. Doesn't matter. Hey, if you think I'm going out there and beating up on women makes it inches you a little closer to violence. You have people out there who believe that I'm a Nazi. You have people out there who believe that I want to kill every transgender American. That's not true. It's not true, but, my God, that inches them closer to violence. I have had terrorists from Yemen. I've never talked about this because I didn't want copycats, but the cat is out of the bag. Yemen by way of Sweden. Post my address. The only reason I'm still alive is because in a YouTube comment, someone cross referenced the zip code with the local PD. That was 2014 or 2015. One side has to remain unlisted. One side has to. Has to have people posted outside of their house. One side has to make sure that their children are constantly protected. Has to know every single minute of every day. And then I had ex employees dox my house, and it was sent by someone closest to me. And then I had to stand before a judge say, I don't know what the Twitterverse is, what this stuff is, and said, no, no, I'm not. I guarantee you Charlie Kirk went through this. I'm not paranoid, I'm not crazy. There are people out there who want to kill me and you have it used against you. Guarantee you he was going through that. Guarantee you he had people who didn't understand why, cuz the media said so. Oh, the conservatives always want to act like they're martyrs. Everyone. How many times have you heard this? Looks to me like you're speaking freely, Charlie. Sure, but that's in spite of your efforts because of the measures taken and you can't take all of them and they don't always work. What you're seeing with Charlie right now is just the one that finally got through. It wasn't the first time and we've been telling you about this for years. I've lived it. He lived it. Guarantee you he lived it in his day to day. Guarantee you he lived it in court. Guarantee you he lived it in the court of public opinion where he was constantly under threat. And what you are seeing is someone who was radicalized. You're seeing the one that made it through. It's a constant threat. It's a constant threat. Why do you think, do you think that Charlie Kirk, let me ask you this, do you think that Charlie Kirk, when he was starting out, when he was a 20 something year old, do you think he had 24, 7 security, do you think he had a bulletproof vest? Do you think he had armed cars? No. Okay, before he was shot dead, murdered by a leftist terrorist, he had all those things. Why the fuck do you think? Because it was a block and a block, it was the left coming and coming and coming and coming and coming and coming and coming. And I know what it's like because everyone in this position experienced it. And Charlie and his people, it was a block and a block and a block and a block and a block and a block and a block and a block and the left while they're doing it, saying, looks to me like you can speak, okay, you're no victim. And then maybe you're tired, maybe you miss something, maybe the leftist terrorist is just that clever. But a block and a block and a block and a block and one gets through and then they act like they care. Why do you think Charlie Kirk went to a bulletproof vest and full time armed security? Probably for the same reason we have here. And it could be any one of you, as a matter of fact, you're more exposed because you may not have the resources and you may not be as aware and then people like Charlie and all of us in this position have to stand and go like no, no, no, we're not paranoid. There are people who want to kill us. And the left keeps saying, paranoid delusions of grandeur. Narcissist. I know what it's like. I know what it's like to wake up at 2am and have a package sent to a place that was unlisted because it was doxed by people with an axe to grind. And I know that Charlie did too. And I know that he lived with this for a long time. And he deserves a lot of respect. I think people. People now go, he deserves. He doesn't deserve the honor and respect because he was killed. He deserves the honor and respect because he knew it was a possibility and he did it anyway. And he knew it was a possibility because he, like all of you, but just to a more intense degree, knew who the left was and he did it anyway. Not honoring the death, honoring the man who knew. Who had to live with that fear and did it anyway. Whenever you watch someone out there in public, whether it's Charlie, whether it's me, whether it's Ben Shapiro, whether it's whoever, just know that's in the back of their mind and know when they go home, it's in the back of their mind. You don't get to shut it off. Yeah.
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Gerald
All for advocating a position that at least 50% of the country.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Gerald
Shares. This isn't some fringe ideology really quickly supporting. And I didn't name them in this group, and I apologize. It's assumed, but don't assume it. Support tpusa as well. I don't know if there's an official way to support Charlie's family yet that's been put up. If anybody's seen that. I'd love to be able to point people in the right direction to do that, to do anything that we can. But really quickly, the FBI out of Salt Lake City has released a photo. They're asking for help identifying this person. Person right now. So 1-800-call FBI, I believe is the number that they put up there. If anybody has any information about this person, please get that information into the FBI so that they can get. As a person of interest. They're not saying this is a shooter, but they're saying this is a person of interest that they want help identifying. So if we can get like a screenshot just of the picture, I think we. If we can get that, that'd be great.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Joe
I mean, I've got this. I can cycle through. That's about the closest we've got right now, but those are the two.
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Gerald
Okay, gotcha.
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Steven Crowder
All right. And then we'll Be getting more information as it comes in. And we'll be taking your chats because I know that congregating right now is important. And next steps. Hey. And I know that you can't. That someone carrying wouldn't have stopped this. Carrie, take your precautions. Have your head in a swivel. I mean, it wouldn't have stopped this. But there are a lot of scenarios where it would come in handy. If you understand what is coming from the left, grab yourself. Want to make it simple? Grab yourself a wheel gun and put it in. Not a sponsor of the show. I'll show you this right now. This is something. It's an American company called a Remora holster. It sticks. Pressure fitted. It also has a clip that you can put on your belt. No bulk. You can slide it around anywhere on your belt. You don't have to get crazy tactical. Get something on. You have it on. You know how to use it. And mentally switch yourself to ready to use it. Because you don't know if that's a bike lock. You don't know what it is. By the way, people get killed by bike locks. You know that. You're fine. People get killed by objects, by boxes filled with metal, launched at them when they're not looking. Looks like you're fine. Who could have ever seen this coming? And we have here, obviously, Pops Crowder, Who. And we're just speaking from experience here, because I know what it's like to be in that chair. There aren't many people on earth who do. All comers at any point in time. Come on up, Pops Kratter knows what it's like. One other point I would like to make, too. You know what else puts people in danger? Hey, trust your institutions. Guarantee you that Charlie, doing what he did with tpusa, faced the same challenges we did with Change my mind. The faculty and administration. You get a permit, you settle in somewhere that you can secure on campus. And then they say, sorry, you've offended people. And the administration says you have to move and you can go back. And then you're in a different spot. And then you're on a sidewalk with a bunch of professors crossing their arms. Think that maybe increases the risk? Anyway, Pops Crowder, what sticks out to you? I mean, you've been there. You've tackled people who tried to run up.
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Josh
Not well, according to Gerald, but, you know, I do my best. I played hockey.
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Gerald
Well, there's consider.
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Pops Crowder
I've heard you got quite a reach.
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Josh
Yeah, that's. That's about it. He got around me, but he Knew we were after him. Couple of points though, you know, you, this is important. I think you mentioned Charlie saw it coming. Well, maybe he didn't see it coming, but he knew what he was operating in. Let me ask you this, guys. You've seen all these great montages of him, pictures. Did you catch it? He's with his family. His kids are always rotated away from the camera. Why is that? Every same sex couple that adopts a family, do they rotate their kids away from the camera? Half the country might not agree with that position, but they know. No, we're good, we're safe. Both sides. And to your point about the university.
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Steven Crowder
I had a guy come up to.
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Josh
Me and say, hey, you were going to play in a show at a 2,800 seat theater. He said, maya Angelou just played that theater. She didn't need any security. This is, the chief of campus police said this to me. She doesn't need any security. Why do you guys expect all this? I said, well, stop and ask yourself a question. She doesn't need any security. We do. Who's the bad guy in the situation? And I watched the lights come on. A chief of police of a major university. And he goes, we got you covered. We had 22 officers at that show. 22. It's not both sides.
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Steven Crowder
And it's not a matter of opinion. No, it's not. That's a very good point. That Charlie has to turn his family. You know that you'll never see a picture of any of my family.
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Josh
And here's our adopted family. We know we're safe. The right's not coming after us. They don't agree with us. They're not going to shoot our kids or kidnap us. Right. They know it. It's not both sides. It's not a matter of opinion, guys.
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Steven Crowder
It's.
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Josh
It's a demonstrable truth.
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Steven Crowder
Well, look at. So Josh and I, people may not know this. I met Josh because he was performing, opening up when I was in. First time was in Spokane, Washington. And he booked that club. And when he booked that club and you, you know, you weren't super familiar with me. I, I was showing up yet. Staff walk out. Yeah. Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
Well, they didn't, well, they didn't walk out. They, they didn't come to work. They called out and it was a bit, it was kind of an issue because it is a high turnover.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
Kind of kind of job. And they, they needed all the hands on deck with Steven there because we had metal detectors. People like to buy tickets to your shows.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, we had metal detectors, we had security. Let me ask.
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Pops Crowder
First time, by the way.
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Steven Crowder
First time.
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Pops Crowder
First time. That comedy club, I worked for a chain that had eight comedy clubs. Well, not at the time, but eight comedy clubs. First time ever. They had to get. I was the one assigned to do it. They're like, hey, Steve, you're opening for him. You find the metal detectors. Like, oh, great, great. Let me just, let me just call. Who, who do I call to rent metal? Everywhere I go, they go. Yeah, you can buy one for $3,500. Yeah, like, okay, thanks.
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Steven Crowder
Thanks. MetalDetectors.com. i guess I'll go down my list.
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Pops Crowder
Thanks. Totally safe. Detectors.net do it.
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Steven Crowder
How many liberal comics you have go through there and they ever need that?
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Pops Crowder
Never.
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Steven Crowder
No, never. It's.
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Pops Crowder
You never have. Yeah. So many, by the way.
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Steven Crowder
Almost Most.
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Pops Crowder
Almost most. Yeah. But some of them are like, like the Adam Conovers of the world. He comes, he came through and didn't need anything.
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Steven Crowder
No, no.
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Pops Crowder
You know, you got all these people. I mean, they're all you. I, I, I, I don't want to name names, but they don't need security first time, by the way. So I texted the guy yesterday and.
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Steven Crowder
We still had issues.
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Pops Crowder
The owner, I texted him yesterday, I go, you think, you think Stephen's crazy now for his metal detectors? He goes, not at all.
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Gerald
Yeah, yeah, not at all.
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Steven Crowder
And then you get people on the right who cannibalize you and go, I thought you were pro second amendment. Well, look, I understand where you're coming from, but anywhere else out in society, it's one to one. It's not one to 5,000.
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Pops Crowder
You know what's funny too about that? About that Spokane date with all these other people from staff who called out and didn't want to work because of your ideas and what they've heard about you the next week when they heard from the other staff about how you, you are a very generous person. I'm only going to details, but you are a generous person. Your crowds are generous people. When they came back and heard how much the other staff made on tips, they were like.
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Josh
It'S free enterprise. That's how it works.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah. They're not.
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Pops Crowder
Damnit.
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Steven Crowder
They're not Bernie Bros Little.
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Pops Crowder
I was sitting at home for no reason.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, no. And I just, I say it so that people understand. Like this is always. We live under this threat. Always.
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Gerald
Yes.
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Steven Crowder
You, you step out. Fight like hell really does mean. Fight like hell. Fight like hell really does mean. If you are right leaning and you step out and you fight, you can expect to take some serious hits. And if you don't take the precautions, you will be taken out. You will be taken out. You saw the one that got through. We have to take precautions. And Charlie had to take precautions at least the last few years of his life that people on the left do not. Maya Angelou, for crying out loud, as a cultural icon, probably drove in in a Volkswagen Bug, went on stage and walked off and went to Panera. I don't know, whatever the fuck.
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Gerald
But it's just to get some soup, you know, like.
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Steven Crowder
And then she ate the bowl.
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Gerald
You can do that.
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Steven Crowder
And bakers hate it. That's a no.
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Gerald
It's a different existence. And look, we don't talk about this a whole lot. I mean, we've talked about the change my mind stuff where security, when we were talking about getting you back out there with this, and first conversation we had before we even talked to you necessarily about even if you wanted to go and how you wanted to do it was how do we, how do we make this safe?
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Gerald
You know, like, had conversations with my family about social media posts and by the grace of God, they've been pretty good about it. But they don't understand. No, I got calls and I got texts yesterday. They understand.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Gerald
And I hate that they have to feel it like this to understand. But when your dad calls just to check on you because he knows that you're in this industry, my dad, you know, it's, it's a. Well, yeah, but it, it's, it's different. Like, we, we have been living under this. That, that shouldn't be the case for holding political opinions or ideological stances that are pro freedom, pro your voice being heard, pro your rights being protected, pro the economy getting better for everyone. Like, it just is baffling to me.
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Josh
And your dad shares your name, so there's a little C there.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Does happen.
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Josh
I remember when you came to me with a change my mind idea. I don't think you went to anybody else and you said, look, I've got this idea. Tell me what you think. You know, the left is always saying, can't we just have civil discussion? Can't we just sit down and talk about some of these ideas? And he said, I think I'm going to do that. I'm going to invite people to come up to a table. We're just going to talk and we're going to see if there's emotion and logic meeting and how we can work things out. And yeah, gee, I don't know if that worked. I was a real visionary. Going around the world 2 billion times. Real visionary debt. But we didn't broadcast it. It wasn't about. We never had speakers where, hey, everyone can hear me. Own the left or take them down. No, it was to be a civil conversation. That's how you. Yeah, that was your idea.
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Steven Crowder
And you get taken out anyway.
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Josh
And the people in the crowd were always, we can't hear you. That's by design. This will be played in an uncut fashion online. So, you know, they'd smell that on a mile away. If we edited anything and it goes.
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Steven Crowder
Out raw and the left antagonizes and.
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Josh
Insults and edits and the risk if we were to broadcast it and not just show up and unfurl the banner at the card table puts you at much more risk.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, and we decided and we just said we couldn't do it. We couldn't do it anymore. Yeah, and I'm sure they had more. You know, TPUSA is a big organization and like I said, things get through. Things get through. But I just want you to not just see the horror of what happened to Charlie, but know what he was living with before that and the risk he was willing to take anyway. Know that there was a lot of blocks being put up and there were a lot. And I had Ben Shapiro text me, look, Ben Shapiro and I have had our differences. Say like, hey, thanks, you actually saved my life. I said, yeah, I know we have our differences, but I'd do it again. He said, no, I know, I know you're that guy. People handed one of my producers an ice pick and we're going to get a sawed off shotgun in their trunk. Yeah, and we had it all on camera, by the way. People were arrested that night with said weapons by local pd. And I handed the footage to ABC News, who happened to be there. And no interest, none, because it was Ben. And that was in time. One of those Jewish Nazis. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Gerald
I could not believe the vitriol coming out against Ben at that time.
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Josh
Ironically, that was in Utah.
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Gerald
Yeah, well, that was in Utah as well. But the one I saw specifically, I think it was before this was at Berkeley where there was all those riots and protests for him just speaking, just having a conversation. It just happens on one side at point to me, the speaker on the left. This happens to when Dean Withers and all those guys, they're putting up their On F America tour and they're basically in most of the bios that are included on the people that are gonna be there, they mentioned Charlie Kirk or Char Lye Kirk, I think is what they called, or any other name they could come up with. Did they face any pushback at all? And I don't want them to, don't get me wrong. I'm not calling for that. I'm just saying they don't have to live with that same kind of expectation that somebody could come and try to take me out.
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Josh
That's right.
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Pops Crowder
He was going to Charlie Kirk's events, his prove me wrong events, and going right up to the front with his cameras and his boys that are obviously bigger than him and yelling out stuff and trying to antagonize Charlie. Yes, of course, none of those thousands of people did anything to him. No, no, none of those thousands of people threatened him.
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Gerald
Totally safe.
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Pops Crowder
They might have, you know, pushed him back or said, hey, get out of here, you're a douche, or whatever, but it shouldn't be. He never. He never once feared for his life. He put a video out. He put a video either yesterday, I think yesterday, or maybe this, I think it was yesterday. Put a video of him crying about the Charlie Kirk thing. And as he's crying about it, putting on his theater, a little bubble pops up. Join the fan club.
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Steven Crowder
Subscribe.
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Pops Crowder
What a little pussy.
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Steven Crowder
You know what? Join the fan club so I can fuck with other conservative lives and inspire violence? You know what? Hey, join the clubs. Not just us. Join the ones of the people who are fighting for you. Because as legacy media dies, the only media you're going to have left is the ones that you support. That's all you're gonna have left. And let me just. When I say inflection point, let me. I was talking with Lane the brain here yesterday, and he can come in and let me know if I'm speaking out of turn. Because, look, when this happened, I'm sure people here might even think I'm Kurt or a dick, because I have to keep from becoming emotional. I process it by joking, maybe trying to be a little bit more stone faced, and then went home. And that's when the levy broke. Because if everyone is crying here, and I am, then it makes it really hard. But we were already exhausted because Zarutska, who is not to be forgotten, that's what we were covering and it really took its toll. And then this happened. And Lane, who, you know, does great work, just said. He said, I wasn't here with David Dorn. He said, I just feel like everything's been sucked out of me. He said, what do you? How do you deal with it? I said, well, first off, follow a routine tonight. Do what you have to do to rest and get as good a night's sleep as you can. Won't fix it, but it'll recharge you enough to do what we have to do tomorrow. And then you keep doing what you're doing. You keep doing what you're doing because it adds up. And that just doesn't apply to him. It applies to all of you. You keep putting one foot in front of the other. I said, you know, I said, lane. And by that what I mean is today, you know, when people released the and ran with the story and said, this is the shooter. And you said, yeah, I don't know, the guy seems crazy, but I don't know if that's the shooter. And everyone was saying, I got it, this is the shooter. I said, no one else had that internal conflict because you care. Because you care. And you're not just trying to get a click and a click and a click and a click, but be right and help people. I said, keep doing that because it may not be the flare in the moment, but it adds up. It adds up, the integrity adds up. And that's why someone under the umbrella of the DOJ texted us today. See, Lane? See what I'm talking about? They trust you. It's the credibility. And then I said, you know what, though? You're going to see a new right wing. You're going to see a new conservative. I've been here on YouTube since 2008. I've seen it change. I said, back then, there were none. There were none. It didn't exist. The flying spaghetti monster comment, if you remember, that was the go to for anyone who was a Christian. You were assumed to be an idiot, Persona non grata. I said, well, you know what? I think this is valuable territory. I think there's something there. And I kept going. And I said, but what the left does and what I mean by frog in the boiling water, stay with me here is they push and they push and they push and they push and they push and they push. And then you find yourself at the point where you go, okay, wait, how many 15 to 20 million illegal aliens in the course of three years. Okay, wait, hold on, wait. How much? They don't want any type of border scale. How many crossings? Okay, wait, 15,000 late term abortions every single year? All right, okay, wait, wait. How many sanctuary states where children can be ripped from their parents and hidden and given mind altering puberty blockers and hormones. Okay, all right, wait. Oh, that's right. Nazi Hitler. How much armed security do I have to have? Okay, that's right. And you add it up. Oh, wait a second. You're not allowed to report crime statistics on the world's biggest media tech company. Oh, oh, oh, okay, sure. And you've been backed up so much that then at a certain point, you have to go, what the hell are we do what the hell are we doing here? And jump out of that pot. But I would tell you this, as defeating as that may sound, the flip side is true. From here, from 2008 to now, and the billions of places, that adds up. And Charlie Kirk doing what he did for that amount of time and influence, that adds up. And people like Ben Shapiro and the new generation of people coming, that adds up. That adds up. Where people hear these ideas, people go, wait a second. Oh, okay, maybe we shouldn't have open world. Wait, hold on a second. Yeah, maybe the science is in now, and we shouldn't alter the minds of young children. Add up. Billions and billions, and that adds up. And then this frog is jumping out of that boiling water. It's been turned up slowly. And because of the seed that has been planted by people like Charlie and everyone in this movement, there's a new right wing. There's a different right wing, and they're gonna fight back. This isn't Bush, Gore, Bush, Kerry, Romney, Obama. It's not that dynamic. It's. You've been killing us in startling numbers. And if you're not killing us, you're killing our reputations with lies. And we're not going to do it anymore. We're not. You've lost the war of ideas, so now you're killing and intimidating. And we're not going to err on the side of mercy and grace. You approach a table with anything other than a handshake, you should expect violence. You approach and yell with a sign or, say Hitler or genocide, at least a tackle. The left has to be so afraid, so petrified from even thinking of committing a violent crime. Not even a murder, a violent crime, an assault, battery, doxing, going to your house, they have to be so terrified because the consequences are so severe that they start straightening up. Not all people vote Democrat, but the activists that you've had to deal with, you know the ones who shoot up schools, you know the ones who killed Charlie Kirk and the ones that you don't see, who tried to kill Charlie Kirk, who tried to maim Charlie Kirk before this, and yours truly, and you'll probably never hear about those. You know why? Because the security issue that takes place, the threat, the attack, discussing it publicly, is a security issue in and of itself. So it becomes a personal hell to live through. And it's only one side. Why do you think Charlie Kirk, before he was killed by a leftist terrorist, had to have a flak jacket and had to have armed security? He didn't. Then. He did. Why? Why do you think Josh, for the first time, had to have metal detectors? Why do you think venues see security that they've never seen before? When someone comes in, whether it's Charlie, whether it's me, whether it's Ben, whether it's Michael Knowles, whether it's Matt Walsh, they'll all tell you the same thing. Why we didn't have that until we had to. Maya Angelou doesn't need it. People I don't even know on the left, I know they don't. I know they don't. Frogs jumping out of the boiling water. And the seed that was planted by people like Charlie and the work that you support and we will continue to do and not be intimidated into silence, has created a new right wing, a new conservative. It's a new conservatism, populism, right wing, whatever you want to call it, that understands the threat that we are facing. That's the new day. That's the change. It's awful. It's an awful place to be. It's an awful decision to have to make. Yeah. And Charlie should have never had to make it out of. Out of almost everybody. When you talk about opinions and you talk about his approach, he shouldn't have had to make those decisions. There shouldn't have been. There should be no risk, none, zero associated with someone allowing anyone who wants to. To come up and have a conversation and talk about taxes, gun rights, abortion, or transitioning children. That should be a riskless endeavor. It is just for one side that needs to change.
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Josh
Yeah.
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Gerald
One thing really quickly that you said that, you know, you talked about the routine, getting into that. One thing that helped me immensely yesterday was I was in a Bible study last night for about an hour and a half. And I'm telling you, man, as much as Charlie's message was about conservative ideas and principles, it was about Christ. It was about getting in the Word. It's about considering the case for Christ. So if anybody, if you're searching for answers today, like I know a lot of us were last night, like, start in scripture, that's a great place to ground yourself. And if you're somebody who just like me, like I. I'm in scripture every single day in those moments, jump back in because nothing makes sense outside of it.
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Steven Crowder
Yep.
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Gerald
Especially on days like yesterday. Like I think we all felt that like part of your soul was ripped out.
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Steven Crowder
Yes.
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Gerald
You know, like we specifically were attacked even though we weren't, you know, it was just unbelievable.
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Steven Crowder
I two things that really. And yeah, praying obviously. But I'm just talking, you know, gonna try and lighten this up before we get to a seven plus one training.
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Gerald
Good luck with that.
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Steven Crowder
Was, you know, Andrew Wilson had called me last week.
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Pops Crowder
I worked very hard on that.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, we all did.
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Josh
But did you write a segue?
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Gerald
Yeah, no, no, that's Stephen's job.
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Pops Crowder
That's the boss.
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Steven Crowder
You give us the. But we, you know, Andrew Wilson called me last, last week and was like, you know, you might want to think about going out because it's been years doing change my mind again. He said, you know something that you started and you really should, should do it. And I think especially now with what we're seeing with Gen Z. He said, yeah, he was very encouraging. And then he called me yesterday, said, yeah, I was wrong. Don't do it. Yeah, he said, don't do it. And there was nothing self serving about saying it. He was trying to encourage me and, and he said, yeah, he said you're on the menu. He said, you're on the menu and it doesn't stop with those. Then I was like, oh, there are people looking out for me and my lady, my missus who is Latina, therefore crazy, texted me, oh my God. I swear to God, if you ever do another change my mind, I will kill myself. She does love me. They're never going back out to on campus again. If you do it, I will kill myself. You don't want that.
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Pops Crowder
Like you can't go, I'm pregnant.
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Steven Crowder
You know, everyone expresses it in their own way.
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Josh
Yeah.
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Steven Crowder
And I don't know if we opened up for people gifting subscriptions. Did we do that?
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Joe
We did get a couple of really big ones. So Gremlin and couple with 50.
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Gerald
Wow. Thank you so much.
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Joe
LD Hall 822 with another 50.
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Gerald
Great job guys. Thank you so much.
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Steven Crowder
Thank you guys very much.
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Josh
Wonderful.
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Steven Crowder
And you know, thank Rumble and thank Chris Pavlovsky. I would not be able to say the things. Let me ask you this.
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Gerald
No.
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Steven Crowder
Do you think that I said things today? Do you think that we're. Are we expressing in chat? Are we expressing. Am I so far out there that you feel Disconnected from what we're saying. Does it seem too radical to you, or is this. Is this what you're feeling? Is this what you're thinking? Do you think that these things today need to be discussed? Because YouTube says you can't. Rumble's the only place where we can.
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Pops Crowder
They absolutely need to be discussed. And I hate when people use war analogies for things that are nothing close to war. But I think it's appropriate that it feels like a war on speech, war on ideas.
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Steven Crowder
It is. It's terrorism.
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Pops Crowder
And we've seen it mildly. What we thought was mildly, with censorship and an administration getting involved in private companies and what they're allowed to post and what they're allowed to let be post on their. On their sites.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
Facebook meta, you know, YouTube, obviously.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, it's.
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Pops Crowder
It feels like a war on speech.
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Steven Crowder
That's a very important point. I was talking with Lane, too, about this yesterday. I said, here's. I said, here's the one thing that you can always be guaranteed. And I want you guys to listen. This is. And I mean this. This is not hyperbole. I'm going to speak in an absolute. And I stand by it. Whenever there's a major tragedy, whenever there's a major conflict, whenever there's a major flashpoint inflection and you don't have all the information and you probably don't have all of the answers, the only guarantee is that the answers the left will provide will be wrong. They will be incorrect. Let me prove it to you. And it's not like I'm Houdini. It's that, you know, they start off, the kernel is a lie. The kernel is a mistruth. So if you were to look at Charlie Kirk's in cold blood terrorist attack, murdered, leaving children fatherless, I hope I drive that home so that the left understands Charlie Kirk, as you referred to him before he started acting like his friend. If you look at that problem and go, both sides, Heated rhetoric, cool it down, the solution will be wrong because the solution will be more censorship on the biggest platforms predicated on the idea that both sides get radicalized and commit violence. Now, if you start with the truth, which the left has, Cannot. They are incapable of doing, which is only one side is experiencing this level of violence. It's not even close. The solution will be, hey, maybe we need to stop marginalizing and demonizing the half of the country that elects presidents and the president on the world's biggest platforms, the solution the left offers will be wrong. When you look at Zarutska and you see what happened. The left, starting with the kernel. The kernel is a mistruth. It looks. This is going to be used. This is going to be used to generate racism. And so the solution is. Racism is a problem. And so we need to correct those wrongs by being empathetic through our system. What can we. Cash bail. Sorry, cashless bail. Catch and release. 11 counts before a murderer is caught that we just heard yesterday. The solution will be wrong if you start and you look at Zarutska and you go, okay, what we're watching is a woman dying senselessly alone, but in public at the hands of someone who is 12 times more likely to kill her white than a white person is a black person. And that's been going on for a long time. Your solution will be, hey, we need to stop with the laws that pander to and cater to criminals. The left looks at those crime statistics. And by the way, I've spent a lot of time looking at the arguments from the left. Do you know what their entire argument is on Zaruska? Their entire argument is, no, no, no. The 1350 meme. 13% of the population, 50% of the crimes. It's because of racial bias. It's because of the targeting, not the crime. The targeting. Let me tell you where that falls apart. The targeting doesn't explain verifiable lives lost at 12 times the rate. The targeting. Okay, 12 times more likely to be killed by a black person than a white person. So you have bodies. Are the police just Targeting white bodies? 12 times the rate it falls apart. Transgenderism, trannies, shorthand. You look at that problem and what you have is something that was always classified as a mental illness, a mental disorder, gender dysphoria, where people had the delusion that they were in the wrong body. Okay, now the left will start with a kernel of a lie or a mistruth and go, hey, actually, it seems that. That they're born in the wrong body. And so we need to be empathetic and we need to enable. We need to empower these people to change all the facets of their body and hormones that don't match up with the right body. You can even find clips of that in Law and Order SVU where they actually say, it happens when a boy is born with a girl brain or a girl was born with a boy brain. The solution's gonna be wrong, because if you look at the truth, you go, okay, what do we have as far as studies? What do we have as far as the most comprehensive study? Do all Studies ever conducted show that a transgender individual, if he is biologically a male, and they examine the brain, confirm that it's a male brain. And the same for females. Yes. The solution would be this is a disorder that is not in line with biology. And so we need to help them because they're sick. If you look at immigration and the left starts with a mistruth, the left starts with a lie. That kernel, hey, these are just people seeking a better life and we're a nation of immigrants. And you know what, they're a net benefit to this country, so we need to allow more of it to the tune of 15 to 20 million in three years. But if you start with the truth, not all of them are just seeking a better life. There is a large criminal component. And even those who are not a part of the critical criminal component enable the planets right now to have more slaves on Earth than ever in history. Over 50 million that flourishes under open borders, underage sex slaves require democratic policy for immigration. Also, they're not a net benefit. They drain 150 to $450 billion from the taxpayer a year. The left solution will be give them a fast path, don't deport them. And the right identifying the truth will be we have to do something about this, limit it and protect the taxpayer. The left looking at gun violence starts with a kernel that's a lie, it's a mistruth. And they go, oh, a gun was used to kill somebody. We need gun control. That's what will change this. And the solution is wrong because 94% of mass shootings occur in gun free zones. And we know if you look at the truth, firearms are used far more in defensive uses than in mass shootings. And it's not even close. And there's no way to get rid of them. The only guarantee we don't have all the answers. By the way, I even see those on the left right now with Charlie Kirk. He was an advocate for guns. And look what I saw that a lot.
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Pops Crowder
I saw a lot of posts that were basically, hey guys, comeuppance.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
How ironic. Ha ha ha.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah. Guarantee you Charlie Kirk would stand by his statement today.
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Pops Crowder
100%.
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Josh
Absolutely.
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Steven Crowder
Guarantee you he would. Maybe we need some gun control. Don't let Charlie Kirk die in vain. Don't let them twist that narrative. We don't have all the answers this morning because of Jay and undercover you have some. And that's not me, that's them. That's your infrastructure. I'm incredibly grateful we don't have all the answers but the one guarantee, the one certainty in life in the 21st century. If you don't have all the answers, whatever answer, solution, prescription the left gives you will be wrong. Always, always turning politics into a team sport. Stop being wrong 100% of the fucking time and we can talk. Any updates, Joe, really quickly, we do.
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Gerald
Have a lot of people that may have just kind of jumped onto the stream. So do me a favor and just recap the exclusive story that we have. If you can pull that back up and just okay, what was put out because the media didn't do a good job of covering that. I think the only one that ran with it was the Wall Street Journal. There may have been some others since then, but. Okay, this morning, early on, we put this out.
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Steven Crowder
Okay, thank you for letting me know. Again, we kind of live in a bubble here when we're in this studio. So this morning, and this was because of the undercover unit who have done great work with the Nashville Manifesto with Jay Varma, the COVID architect with the DOJ stories with Donald Trump, because you've supported them with your membership and because the trust credibility bill, they were sent this morning a leak that was nowhere else from someone under the DOJ in detail. And the reason this was sent to Jay in our undercover unit is because this person was concerned that it may be buried. So this is part of the ATF memo regarding the shooting. Multiple SLC 1 and 3 agents responded immediately. The suspect fired one shot from an elevated position on a rooftop in an adjacent building on the campus. And surveillance video shows a suspect jumping off and fleeing the area on foot. ATF and other law enforcement located an older model imported Mauser.30 06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspect's route of travel. The spent cartridge was still chambered. In addition to three unspent rounds. All cartridges have engraved wording on them expressing transgender and anti fascist ideology. An emergency trace has been submitted and ATF SLC is working leads generated by the trace. They're taking the ammunition, the firearm and examining it. But just to be clear, it was a bullet engraved with the ideology that has been echoed from all of media, the left, every single presidential candidate for the last call it eight years. And the reason that we were sent this, you know, an illegitimate online entertainment show, if you hear NPR say it, is because someone under the DOJ was concerned that this would be buried, was concerned that this may not get out there. And you know What? I think they're right. I think if we didn't get out there first, I don't think Wall Street Journal does. We'll never know.
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Gerald
We know that CNN wouldn't cover it that way because they had access to this information and put cultural phrases.
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Pops Crowder
I'm trying to think of what that could mean. Cultural phrases.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
What's a cultural phrase? Wakanda forever. Yeah, yeah, sure. Niches get stitches.
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Steven Crowder
My people eat baklava here, man.
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Gerald
So I do have another exclusive update.
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Steven Crowder
Is this what you're talking about earlier?
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Gerald
No, it's not related necessarily to this, but this is important and timely. So apparently from Al Qaeda in. Let me see if I. Go ahead and pull up. Go and pull it up. Yeah. So al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is basically saying they're calling for Muslims in the United States to commit acts of terror and attempt to AssAssinate President Trump, VP Vance, Secretary Rubio and SecDef Hegseth all Muslims in the United States to commit an act of violence in jihad and choose your government targets wisely. So this is coming from Spec Ops Command, kind of an internal source.
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Steven Crowder
This is exclusive to us.
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Gerald
This is exclusive to us. Now, to be fair there, this kind of thing does from time to time get issued. It also is September 11th. It's kind of a. You know, it's something that I'm sure that they've had eyes on before. But this was sent to us as something that was very relevant today for everybody to be aware of. So especially if you're in communities with a heavy kind of population or just. It's just keep your head on a swivel day. I hate to say that, but it is. So they're coming for us. I want you to be caring and I want you to get them first. Make sure.
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Steven Crowder
But for people who are new, I am not. I hope that I've crystallized and anyone here disagrees. I open the floor. I am not. I am not encouraging active violence. No going to the left. But I am advocating a hair trigger defensive approach now. Hair trigger. What I mean is err on the side of caution for your life and your family. No more grace if someone approaches you violently and makes it known. Why? Because I've been radicalized by the left. Err on the side of swift defense. I would rather see. I would rather see that than see another. Another Charlie Kirk. And believe me, the left would like as many as possible. They'll feign outrage or sadness today just long enough so that they can claim they didn't. You know, this is something that they never saw coming and didn't want.
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Pops Crowder
Or they do it so they can mask the next thing they're about to say.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
They can say it under a veil like, oh, this is so sad. It should never. It should never happen. It has no place in our politics. But he did do it to himself, right?
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Gerald
And this. I just. This tagline, America on edge amid rising political violence. No scene. And America is not on edge. Half of America.
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Steven Crowder
That's right.
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Gerald
Right now. The other half is living comfortably knowing that the other half isn't going to do this stuff to them. Half of us are on edge. You put up a graphic a little while ago with attacks, different kinds of attacks, plots going back to 2011. There was one exception on that list. Charlie Kirk was at the top of that list. One exception. All of those were politicians. No, politicians shouldn't have to face that either. A Supreme Court justice, somebody in the government. These are all government officials. It's different. It came outside of that. Somebody talking about ideas. It shouldn't happen to anybody. But I know you want to lump it together with everything else that's happened and try to paint a picture of escalating tensions in America. No, no, no, no, no. There's escalating tensions on one side, and they're coming after us.
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Steven Crowder
Not anymore.
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Gerald
Can you just address it? Can you please just make sure that our voices get heard on this so we don't have any more Charlie Kirks? Can you please do that?
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Josh
And you know, I don't think they're saying that anymore. I don't think they're saying an illegitimate pseudo news organization. Entertainment show. Not anymore. Guess what? There are other. There are other ways to get information out.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Josh
I'll give you one. I don't know. I don't want to put you on the spot here, Army Ranger. I don't want to say sniper.
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Steven Crowder
Did I say sniper?
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Pops Crowder
No, I was. I used to be a Ranger, but.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, okay.
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Pops Crowder
No, I was.
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Josh
Your point about a professional shooter and all that.
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Steven Crowder
Nobody could have made that.
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Josh
Give us your insights on that.
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Steven Crowder
That was.
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Pops Crowder
Yeah, you were talking earlier about people.
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Josh
Gonna get that in an entertainment show for comedy. No, this is expertise that.
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Pops Crowder
You were talking earlier about people going online, posting the picture of the guy that was arrested. That poor Larry David look alike.
- [104:08]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
- [104:08]
Pops Crowder
The wrong one got dragged out and everyone said, oh, here's the shooter. People aren't deleting their post, by the way.
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Steven Crowder
Those people got those clicks.
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Pops Crowder
Yeah, they got those clicks. And they're leaving it up so they can get more clicks you get 8 cents for every thousand clicks you get on Twitter or whatever the hell it is.
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Steven Crowder
And before you go on, I just want to say, when I say support those on the right, not a single one who does that. Not a single one who's posted false information. Like, for example, Zaruska had that Black Lives Matter flag in her room when it turned out to be a friend. Not a single one who does that. That's not who I'm talking about. I'm talking about the Charlie Kirk.
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Josh
I'm talking about people that source everything.
- [104:37]
Steven Crowder
Everything.
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Pops Crowder
And they speculate everything. And it's on both sides. What they do. They do speculate. Friends of ours.
- [104:43]
Steven Crowder
Yes.
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Pops Crowder
And that's one thing I love about this show, is that, you know, before coming here, I maybe I speculated time to time, and it's something I learned from you and from everyone around here is that, hey, we get the facts right before we say something. But yeah, all the speculation, you see all the speculation about the shoot, hey, there's no way it's just some random person. It's got to be a professional hitman. This is a. This is a job by Mossad. This is a job by the caa. Or this is.
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Steven Crowder
Is.
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Pops Crowder
This has got to be a professional hitman. No way you can make that shot in the neck from 200 yards away. And it's like.
- [105:13]
Steven Crowder
Shut the up.
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Pops Crowder
What do you know?
- [105:16]
Steven Crowder
What do you know? It's not even a stretch.
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Pops Crowder
Go back to your video games. What do you know about this?
- [105:20]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
200 yards is not a far shot, first of all, especially if you even a cheap optic.
- [105:26]
Steven Crowder
Yes.
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Pops Crowder
You get a 2x4 by on a 4.4by optic that costs under 300 bucks. 10 minute YouTube video, 30 minutes in the range.
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Gerald
Well, here's a.
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Pops Crowder
You've got your gun zeroed.
- [105:37]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
You, you. How long did it take me to zero your gun with you?
- [105:43]
Steven Crowder
The 9 millimeter carpet.
- [105:44]
Pops Crowder
Yeah. The CZ, I think. Or.
- [105:45]
Steven Crowder
Yeah. 10 minutes maybe. Maybe.
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Pops Crowder
And that's because I know what I'm doing.
- [105:48]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
If you didn't know what you're doing. Five, ten minutes with YouTube video.
- [105:53]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
Tell you where to click. It's not hard. It's not difficult.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah. I have. With a zeroed optic rifle. I have had a woman who never shot it before hit a dinner plate at 200 yards within the first 10 shots.
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Pops Crowder
He wasn't aiming for the neck.
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Gerald
There it is.
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Josh
That's right.
- [106:09]
Steven Crowder
And look at it.
- [106:10]
Pops Crowder
And look at that optic.
- [106:11]
Steven Crowder
Yeah. Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
Are you kidding me?
- [106:12]
Gerald
This is not exclusive. I can't remember what New York Post. New York Post put this out, but.
- [106:16]
Steven Crowder
It'S a really important point, Josh. Yeah. And that's speculation. And someone who doesn't know about guns, it's just like the semi automatic thing. Semi automatic. And someone goes, oh, my God, that sounds like a lot. And so someone goes, it must be CIA or Mossad, because. Oh, you're saying a.30 06 couldn't make a 200 yard.
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Pops Crowder
Yeah, yeah. Massage using an old gun.
- [106:32]
Gerald
Yeah. Ian Carroll put that out. And it's like saying names of people because he put that out like the. Israel shot him right in front of him. And Dave Smith, to his credit, said, what evidence do you have that Israel was involved in this at all? Hey, waiting on that.
- [106:46]
Steven Crowder
Hey, you know what? And by the way, it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense because he was criticized by all the people who hate Israel because he was too pro Israel. Charlie Kirk. Right.
- [106:54]
Gerald
No, but it's these, these people that are out there.
- [106:57]
Steven Crowder
Well, but Josh knows because you've.
- [106:59]
Pops Crowder
Yeah.
- [106:59]
Steven Crowder
You've shot professionally.
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Pops Crowder
Yeah. And it's like I learned how to shoot in the army.
- [107:04]
Josh
Were you asked to be a contributor on any of these shows to.
- [107:07]
Pops Crowder
No.
- [107:07]
Steven Crowder
Expertise. No.
- [107:08]
Pops Crowder
And I wouldn't do it because I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert in the field.
- [107:12]
Steven Crowder
You're more of an expert than Ian Carroll.
- [107:14]
Josh
Unbelievable.
- [107:15]
Pops Crowder
Yeah. But, yeah, you get people going out there. Oh, that's an expert. Shot in the neck.
- [107:20]
Steven Crowder
What?
- [107:20]
Pops Crowder
Wings for the neck. Wasn't an aim for the neck.
- [107:23]
Steven Crowder
He missed. Yeah, he missed.
- [107:26]
Pops Crowder
He missed. Good.
- [107:27]
Steven Crowder
By the way, for him.
- [107:28]
Pops Crowder
Not. I don't think it's good.
- [107:29]
Josh
No, no.
- [107:29]
Steven Crowder
You know what I mean? No. Yeah, he, he, he was trying to kill Charlie Kirk. He missed.
- [107:35]
Pops Crowder
Speculation is just.
- [107:36]
Steven Crowder
He was still effective with him. That's great. You know, I don't even think that's a stretch for, for relatives. We have a go deer hunting. 30 odd six with a, with a scope. A 200 round. A 200 yard shot in a deer. That's not even unheard of. It's not at all.
- [107:50]
Pops Crowder
No, it's not.
- [107:50]
Steven Crowder
I mean, when you were with me after zeroing. This is a pistol carbine. I had and I'm not a great shot. Lever action. Yeah.357, 183 yards and I hit the gong and I said, well, that's about as much as I can ask.
- [108:03]
Pops Crowder
Yeah, I remember because I was trying to, I was trying to hit it with my pistol and I'm not great with a pistol.
- [108:07]
Josh
Was that his red rider. You were zeroing in.
- [108:09]
Pops Crowder
Yeah.
- [108:09]
Steven Crowder
No. No, he was zero. No, but I hit it. I said that's about as much as you can ask because it's a pistol car. Right. Shooting a handgun. But 183 yards was still possible with a rifle round. I mean, if you go to an actual rifle range, 200 yards is. Is. Is a pretty standard measure. Like you. It's not even the farthest one. Yeah. A pistol range will go out to a hundred sometimes, like just to kind of test. It's usually maybe 30, 50, and that's stretching it. But a rifle. I've been in rifle ranges.
- [108:34]
Josh
My point isn't just the facts. My point is that level. Level of expertise on a comedy show.
- [108:39]
Steven Crowder
No, I know.
- [108:39]
Josh
That's the point of these guys. It's just amazing to me. But it's a new. There's a new sheriff in town. This whole world we're in, these people don't own the day anymore. They can't, you know, proactively practice to deceive.
- [108:52]
Steven Crowder
Yep. And before we go to chat, speaking of comedy show, because I know it's been a heavy two days.
- [108:57]
Josh
Oh, no.
- [108:58]
Steven Crowder
You know, transgenders. I'm writing a segue as we go. Transgenders permeate everything and ruin everything. And it's actually been a real problem. We were talking about this story in the video game industry, where there were a lot. There was a disproportionate number of developers and video game designers transgender, and the community was pushing back. And look, I have no. If you're just a good game designer, I don't think that your gender should be relevant. The problem is when it sort of seeps in and you see that maybe they're pushing an agenda with the game itself. And we have some examples. That brings us to this week's seven plus one. Radical Trans Video Games. You forgot the van in the chamber. And like I said on the outset, if you don't like it, Grace, this could be a swing and a miss. But we thought you guys would like something to put the blame on me. I pushed it a little.
- [109:57]
Josh
Levy sorbet.
- [109:58]
Gerald
I blame Josh.
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Josh
I think we need cleanse the pal.
- [110:00]
Steven Crowder
I think we need it. Seven plus.
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Pops Crowder
Admonish me later.
- [110:03]
Gerald
That's fine.
- [110:04]
Steven Crowder
Seven plus one. Radical Trans Video games number seven, Josh.
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Pops Crowder
Sonic the Flesh Hog.
- [110:09]
Steven Crowder
Oh, well, that's. Well, hey, they did Photoshop it. How nice. They cooked them up. This is one of them.
- [110:19]
Gerald
Yeah.
- [110:19]
Pops Crowder
You got to collect those rings.
- [110:21]
Steven Crowder
Seven plus one.
- [110:22]
Gerald
What do you collect them with, Josh?
- [110:25]
Steven Crowder
Seven plus one, Radical Trans Video Games Number six. Duke Nuke them. They is.
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Josh
I was hoping I did number six.
- [110:33]
Steven Crowder
I've got bowls of steel. The point is Transdevelop. Just make a good game. Just you don't have to shove it in your face.
- [110:44]
Pops Crowder
Come on.
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Steven Crowder
You know what? Give this one to Pop Scatter because he doesn't know video games. So it'll be funnier. Seven plus one, Radical Trans Video Games. Number five, Pops Crowder.
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Josh
Luigi's Haunted Mangina.
- [110:58]
Steven Crowder
Wow.
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Pops Crowder
Oh, no.
- [111:02]
Steven Crowder
Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Wahoo. Gerald, you wanna do.
- [111:09]
Gerald
Yeah, sure.
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Steven Crowder
You know what? No, I'll do number four. I'm gonna do have you do number three because it's meaner. Seven plus one, Radical Trans Video Games Number four, Super Gash Brothers. They just. They're not just make games. Guys. Keep your politics out of it. Stop it.
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Pops Crowder
Where's Star Fox?
- [111:31]
Steven Crowder
Number three. Number three. Gerald. Kill her.
- [111:36]
Gerald
Instinct.
- [111:37]
Steven Crowder
Oh, well, I see. Oh, my goodness.
- [111:43]
Gerald
That's great.
- [111:45]
Steven Crowder
Seven plus one, Radical Trans Video Games. Josh. Number two.
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Pops Crowder
Number two. The one whose Photoshop was denied Rainbow Six final affirmation.
- [111:53]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, that was one where we said, not today. Not today. Happy warriors we are. You know, let's give this to Gerald. Number one. Seven plus one, Radical Trans Video Games Number one, Gerald Walkie dong. Oh, hey.
- [112:12]
Gerald
Makes it harder to jump.
- [112:13]
Steven Crowder
That's the plus one. Radical Trans Video Games is Yoshi's Sex Island. And that's. Just don't play it. It's not age appropriate. It's rated ma. This has been this week. Seven plus one. You forgot the van in the chamber. All right, let's. Let's take some chats. And thank you to everyone who. Who gifted out those super chats. Like fight like hell. Oh, sorry. What are you gonna say?
- [112:38]
Joe
I was just gonna say we do have another 50 from Bradin.
- [112:40]
Steven Crowder
Wow.
- [112:41]
Pops Crowder
Bradin will not be outdone.
- [112:43]
Gerald
Thank you.
- [112:44]
Steven Crowder
Thank you, Bradin. The leak today to Jay and the undercover unit. Hey, maybe. Maybe if we didn't get it out, maybe everyone else would have covered it. I hope so. But we know that didn't happen with Nashville. We know that didn't happen with the doj. We know that didn't happen with. I forgot the name. It was Chippewa Falls.
- [113:00]
Gerald
Chippewa.
- [113:01]
Steven Crowder
The credibility has been built with. With the team here. And people trust them. We protect our sources and of course, everything we do every day and the ability to speak as we do. We are supported, funded by viewers like you. We don't have a nonprofit. We don't have giant Beckers. We don't have a Raytheon sponsorship. We have a few sponsors every now and then, but about 90% of it comes from you and your support. Truly independent and number one out there and the longest running show. So thank you and we'll continue to do it as long as we can. It's time to fight like hell and. And we'll do it the only way we know how. Support everyone out there. Who is. Who's standing in the pocket for you. Let's grab some chat.
- [113:41]
Joe
All right, first chat From Native Warrior 9 to 2. Question for Steven and crew. Where do we conservatives go from here? What comes next after the murder of Charlie? Is common ground out the window?
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Steven Crowder
This idea of finding common ground where it doesn't exist should have already been out the window. No, don't find common ground on a lie. Divide really clearly you're on that side. I'm on this side. If you want to take my kids, if you want to take away my guns, if you want to take away my speech, if you want to make us like Europe where I can be arrested for a meme, you're on that side. I'm on this side. And your approach now is stay on your side. Gerald said only one side is uneasy, and that's true. That's been the case for a long time. Make the left uneasy. And I don't mean make the left uneasy and have the same tension like you do. Simply going out in public or at some kind of an event, just existing because the left may attack you. Make them very, very uneasy in approaching you with anything that even hints at aggression. If they come to you, do not assume it's a dialogue.
- [114:44]
Gerald
Yeah.
- [114:45]
Steven Crowder
Tell them you're on the. Hey, stay back. They don't take care of business. Make them afraid to approach you because it can switch in an instant. And we've seen it happen and we've lived it. Keep doing what we're doing because we are winning on the war of ideas. They've conceded defeat. Keep winning on the war of ideas. Be more aggressive. Give them no quarter and hair trigger defense. Do not allow them to get close. If you see something, say something. This is not the country we want to live in. Change the attitude of erring on the side of. I don't attribute to malice. What could be ignorance. Nope. Malice. Someone's approaching me a little bit too fast. Assume it's going to get dangerous and act accordingly. Next chat.
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Joe
All right, next chat from Ibrahim Asmodeus. Question. So my pastor was calling for temperance and patience last night.
- [115:35]
Steven Crowder
Fuck Him.
- [115:35]
Joe
Yeah, but I'm not feeling so patient today. How would you explain this to your kids?
- [115:40]
Steven Crowder
How would I explain that the pastor is a big, giant pussy?
- [115:42]
Joe
I would assume the Charlie incident.
- [115:44]
Steven Crowder
But say a prayer, Post a guard. Say a prayer and post a guard. You shouldn't. It sucks, doesn't it? You shouldn't have to have this conversation with your kids about a guy, Charlie Kirk, who sat down and talked at a table.
- [115:57]
Pops Crowder
But you do think Gavin Newsom's having a talk with his son who loves Charlie Kirk.
- [116:02]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Charlie Kirk. You know when people are always so concerned about platforming the right. Charlie Kirk platformed a guy, Gavin Newsom, who enabled the Black Lives Matter riots and the radicalism in his very state that created the environment. Environment under which Charlie Kirk was slaughtered. We can't have that same double standard anymore. Hope I have the authority to say this. I say this as the guy who created and started change my mind. And I am telling you that most of that is out the window. Most of it. Now it's destroy. Destroy the ideas of the left. They need to be embarrassed and they need to be scared. As far as your pastor, sounds to me like you're in one of them new fangled Protestant churches, maybe an Episcopalian one, where, gee, golly, the ultimate value is just make sure everyone is nice. Sure. Will evil always be amongst you? Did we see it yesterday? Did we see it after? We saw evil, by the way, in Charlotte on a train? Pastor, how do you deal with evil? How do you deal and then next do submission of women? Don't just avoid the inconvenient parts of the Bible. The war that come as a sword. He's no pastor of mine.
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Josh
By putting a daisy down the gun barrel that was aimed at Charlie Kirk.
- [117:28]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, sorry, no pastor of mine. If I was under that church, I would leave. I'm not saying the pastor should go out like Rambo. No, he shouldn't come out. He shouldn't, you know, come out of the baptismal tank like Rambo, too, with guns. What I'm saying is that's not. It's the message. The only message that would be acceptable to me from a pastor is evil will always be amongst you. And we see evil and we see. We see the satanic influence in one side of America today. And we see the results. We see the results on one side of America today. Telling you to kill your babies in record numbers. Telling you that you are not fearfully and wonderfully created. Telling you that God didn't number the hairs on your head before you were born, telling you that God makes mistakes, telling you that as a Christian, you should have your empathy used against you and ignore crime statistics and immigration, and that it's compassionate to have your money stolen from you and given to people who seek to break down the only remaining Christian nation. But let me tell you, my congregation, there's nothing Christian about that. Yeah. If I want to hear that, yeah.
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Gerald
I want to hear the context. But it doesn't sound like there's a whole lot of context that makes that a whole lot better. I understand the idea of, like, people being motivated to go out into the streets and saying, hey, like, I wish people would have done that to the BLM people. I wish people would have set up and, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Wait, wait. You don't have all the information yet. Don't get riled up because of these guys.
- [118:54]
Steven Crowder
Yep.
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Pops Crowder
Oh, we didn't give you all the information that we already have yet.
- [118:57]
Gerald
Yeah, well, exactly.
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Pops Crowder
Exactly what happened? Black lives matter.
- [119:00]
Gerald
But yeah, yeah, we do need churches to understand that we are in a fight. And too many churches are the comfortable, make sure people don't get offended church. We need more truth churches. So my response to the previous one was like, the truth in love. That's what you need for people out there right now when you're talking about this. Tell people what you believe. Don't do it in a way to offend friends on purpose for no reason whatsoever. But sometimes the truth is offensive, and don't shy away from that. I think that's what we need more of right now. The left is safe because they know they can say whatever they want without just being challenged. Not even on a physical kind of level, but just verbally. Nobody in the company is going to stand up and say, well, I don't think that men should be playing in women's sports. We need more of that. We need more people being unafraid to just share their ideas. What I believe, here's who I am. And guess what, 50% of America backs me. Probably more than that when you talk about specific issues. So really, what are we doing here?
- [119:55]
Steven Crowder
Yep.
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Josh
And biblically, the mighty men of valor were ass kickers. I'm sorry, I don't recognize these men. I don't recognize that speech. They were flawed and they were chosen and they were ass kickers.
- [120:05]
Steven Crowder
You want to know just how warped in love. Speaking of ass kickers, you've been taught, you know, Christians have committed acts of evil. The Crusades. The Crusades, if you want to understand, happened after Thousands of Charlie Kirks at the hands of Muslims. Do you guys understand that? Yeah. And they want you to go Crusades. Let me ask you this.
- [120:29]
Josh
Both sides, right?
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Steven Crowder
That shoot, that person is still out there. Yeah, that person is still out there. If that person, God forbid, took someone else out and a member of the Kirk family blew him away, the left 100, 200 years from now would teach. Well, you have radical right wing extremists. What about that? What about that Kirk family? That's what they do with the Crusades. Yeah, yeah, that's what they do. Because they don't understand. And isn't it funny? I was talking with Elaine about this too. He had a real heart to heart. I said, you know, the thing is the reason that you care about getting it right, the reason that you don't run the false story of this shooter, the reason that you don't run the false story of the Epstein shit that happened, the reason that you've been right and you built the credibility that allows the leaks to us like you saw today. I said it's because we all start off with the point here that human beings are evil and sinful. I said, and isn't that something that the people who, most folks would say that's a dark view, who understand that we are sinful, that we are inherently evil. It's constantly there. It's constantly checking you where you're going. I want to, but wait, is that my evil, sinful nature? And so you're constantly questioning yourself, wait, is it right to do this? Is it right to lie to people for clicks? Wait, is it right to insert. Commit whatever act here? And the people on the left who want you to believe that human beings are inherently good, that's required for socialism, it never checks them. I feel like I want to do this. And since we are inherently good, that must be good. We believe what we want. What we feel is just as likely to be wrong as it is to be good. So the people who believe that they are inherently sinful are ironically better people that people who believe that they are inherently good are inevitably pieces of shit. Next chat.
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Joe
All right, Next chat from CA Poston6question for the crew on the motive. Do the recent polls you touched on this week with younger voter trends point to why Charlie was a target? Is this a thread we need to pull on?
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Steven Crowder
Absolutely. Absolutely. Remember, Charlie was. Charlie was effective. Very. And we know it because the more the, the closer you are on target, boy, does it get violent.
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Pops Crowder
Well, that's the thing. When I talked about, you know, this being a war on speech, that's a huge target, you know, to them. Whoever this is, they. They think they. They made a huge impact. Maybe they did.
- [122:54]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
- [122:54]
Pops Crowder
They took out of a voice, one of the loudest voices, one of the most heard voices.
- [123:01]
Steven Crowder
I tell you what. Because we were talking about coming back where we were going to announce, funny enough, this week, change my mind is not feasible. But if people say both sides, we need to let cooler heads prevail. We're going to be announcing PhD professors at Ivy Leagues. I'm going to read you a list. They can name the time and place, and I will debate them formally on a stage with the moderator of their choosing and the rules of their choosing. And it will be an invitation to people with great specificity. And we will offer money to the school or to some kind of a charity of their choosing. Because what you need to know is it's not about the kids being ignorant. That's not what was proven with what Charlie did or any of this. It's the institution, the faculty. Why have they never heard this before? So the next step and something that could probably be done a little bit safer. It's been proven kids have been failed. Now I want to go to the professors, the same professors who revoke those permits for people like Charlie and myself and make those events unsafe. I want to go for those professors who claim they want to cool temperatures. And you name the time and place. Name the time and place, and we can have that debate. So at least. At least it won't be the first time that people are hearing these ideas online. Let's do that. You guys want back in on the war of ideas? Okay. Hey, I'm a. I'm a college dropout comic. Should be easy for you. I'd bet the house against me. We'll have that list to you next week. Next chat.
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Joe
All right, well, Raging Oak Tree, your professor may not want to cool this, but let's see if they want an invite. Raging Oak Tree asks. I explained to my professor today how lefties calling us Nazis led to Charlie Kirk's death. Then she proceeded to say, class, that Trump is a Nazi. How do we talk to these people now?
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Steven Crowder
Report them. Report them. Get them fired. Record it. Record it. Yeah, record it. Report them. Get them fired, and make it known in front of the class.
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Pops Crowder
Ask your professor what they would do. First thing they would do with a time machine. If it's kill Hitler.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, yeah.
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Pops Crowder
They're an evil person.
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Steven Crowder
Walk them through it. Hey, this is not that.
- [125:12]
Pops Crowder
That's the Evil person thing.
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Steven Crowder
I'm just saying no to say. So you believe Donald Trump supports killing 6 million Jews? The answer, of course they'll tiptoe. So you believe he's a member of the National Socialist Party. Well, what about him makes him a Nazi? And if you could travel back in time and you could take. You could take out. You could stop. You could kill Hitler or the Gestapo gassing Jews. Would you. So. So would you. For Trump? Should anyone here do it for Trump or should you stop using that kind of language?
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Josh
Yeah, thanks.
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Pops Crowder
You said it better.
- [125:45]
Steven Crowder
The PhD.
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Josh
The PhD. PhD would say Nazis aren't socialists. Don't be silly.
- [125:51]
Steven Crowder
It's in the name.
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Pops Crowder
Yeah, but that's not a real socialist.
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Josh
No, but they.
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Steven Crowder
Right. No, no.
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Pops Crowder
Just like Cuba wasn't a real communist state.
- [125:58]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
- [125:58]
Josh
Takes the race.
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Pops Crowder
Just like North Korea's not a real communist. China's not real communist.
- [126:01]
Steven Crowder
Yeah. And I bet you then they'll probably say that Hitler was a devout Christian. That was something that was going around on YouTube in 2009. He reviled Christian Christians. He tried to trick them enough so that he could get the support that he felt he needed. You believe that? All right, next chap.
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Joe
All right, well, real quick, we got another 20 rumble premium subs from deluxe night 1981.
- [126:22]
Steven Crowder
Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
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Gerald
That'll help us fight in for you. That's nice.
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Joe
Okay, and then. Yeah, next chat from davisfam3467den. People I know are saying you have sympathy for Kirk, but what about the school shooting that happened yesterday? How do we rebuttal?
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Steven Crowder
What? What?
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Gerald
There is a school shooting in dollar not that. What we can't have. We can't have compassion and sympathy for multiple things that are happening at the exact same time. Like, I don't understand the point of the question. What he's saying, that those two people are at odds, that, I mean, the ideology of Charlie Kirk caused.
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Steven Crowder
Oh, my God, a school shooting.
- [126:56]
Gerald
What the hell are you even talking about?
- [126:57]
Steven Crowder
It's a fucking feminist way of arguing is what it is. Where you're like, hey, this is the issue. Can we solve it? Yeah, but what about this feeling?
- [127:02]
Pops Crowder
Yeah, what about ism?
- [127:04]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, not even. What? Well, it's not even what about it? Because what about ism is trying to draw a parallel in this case. Like, yeah, but what about this thing that's completely unrelated? How about you shut up? How about you shut up and understand that? And I'm not going to lie to you, I've been really consumed with this, because it hits close to home. And I don't know as much about the shooting in Colorado as I would about other shootings because we were consumed with Zarutska and Kirk, and boy, it's like a fire hose right now. But of course, my, My. My heart goes out to the families affected there.
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Josh
You opened with the Zarutska story. I mean, we were in that. And this pushed it off the page for a while, but it's still absolutely front of mind.
- [127:39]
Gerald
It's not going away.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, you just go, yeah, okay, whatever. You're gonna have. You're gonna have a rational dialogue with someone like that? No, no, they're just trying to score points. They're trying to score points. That's the change. The left is only. I don't even mean trying to make a point. I mean trying to score points. And I want to go to what you were saying, Josh, but a good example of this was yesterday when Trump. We talked about. President Trump, said Zarudska, I believe he said something like, and this woman never had a problem her whole life. And people jumped on that. It was very clear contextually, that he was saying she never caused a problem, but they were trying to say, he's insensitive to her. She left the war zone. That's not honest.
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Josh
He was comparing rap sheets.
- [128:16]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, that's not honest.
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Pops Crowder
Wasn't reading off a prompter.
- [128:18]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, it's not honest to act like you're offended by that or that Donald Trump meant what you're saying. He meant you know what you're doing, you know what you're doing, and you know what he meant. It's about scoring points, not even making a point, because the left doesn't have any points to make. I'm sorry, Josh. I get mad and I interrupt.
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Pops Crowder
No, I wasn't saying anything.
- [128:34]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, you were.
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Pops Crowder
It wasn't significant.
- [128:39]
Gerald
By the way, a significant thing. Just a quick update. This happened probably 10 minutes ago. They're offering $100,000 now for information leading to this person's capture or, you know, getting in touch with them.
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Josh
That's all.
- [128:52]
Gerald
The FBI offering award of up to $100,000 for information leading to the identification and arrest of the individual. So, wait, wait. Pull that back up, up it.
- [129:02]
Josh
Make it tax free.
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Gerald
Hold on. So that. Yeah, so offering a reward for identification, arrest of the individual responsible for the murder of Charlie Kirk. So that's different than what was being said before. So is that a new version of the Post? Well, yeah, so that, that. That picture underneath doesn't seem to be the post from the FBI.
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Steven Crowder
So that's not from the FBI.
- [129:22]
Gerald
Okay. Yeah. So that was just in general for the murder. So not for.
- [129:25]
Pops Crowder
That person is a person of interest, but the person.
- [129:27]
Gerald
Yeah, that's what I was trying to clarify.
- [129:28]
Pops Crowder
But they are.
- [129:29]
Joe
Yeah, the lower post.
- [129:30]
Gerald
Yeah, the lower post makes it look like the FBI saying that's the guy, and they're not. So I just wanted to be clear about that.
- [129:36]
Steven Crowder
All right, so next chat.
- [129:38]
Joe
All right, let's see. Next chat from Thomas Pape. Question for the crew. When do we push Dems on the fact that they keep standing up on the wrong side of what makes America America?
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Steven Crowder
Well, we do every day. That's what we do. That's what we do, and that's what you need to do every day. You never let your guard down. You do it every opportunity you have. And now be more aggressive.
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Josh
It's another one of those things that isn't a matter of opinion. America is a thing. It is a thing. It's a noun. It's definable.
- [130:05]
Pops Crowder
It's hard.
- [130:05]
Josh
They don't agree with. With this nation as founded. They don't agree with the intention of the experiment, and they hearken back to Europe or these other countries that have failed. And the reason we broke away and you got to teach it to your kids or it's gone. The minute the institutions get them, they'll. They'll turn them against their own folks.
- [130:21]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
Yeah, exactly. They. They don't. We push back on what America is.
- [130:26]
Steven Crowder
How?
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Pops Crowder
The wording of that is the wording of that question.
- [130:31]
Joe
America.
- [130:31]
Pops Crowder
What makes America America? They don't like what makes America America? They want. They have a different version, a different vision of America.
- [130:39]
Steven Crowder
Yep.
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Josh
And yesterday when I think it was Lauren Boebert called for prayer.
- [130:43]
Steven Crowder
No. Attacked her. No. They said.
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Pops Crowder
Yeah.
- [130:45]
Gerald
They had a moment of silence, but she wanted a verbal prayer.
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Josh
Do you know who else called for that?
- [130:50]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
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Josh
Ben Franklin.
- [130:52]
Steven Crowder
Yep. Well, yeah, he's. Guys.
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Josh
Yeah, it goes back.
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Steven Crowder
Peter. Believing God.
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Josh
Yeah, well, he was the one that piped up.
- [130:59]
Steven Crowder
Hey, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. Before we get started, why don't we. Guys.
- [131:02]
Josh
Hey, how's Ben Franklin? They used to claim he was a godless man. Or at least a deist. Was their argument with him and Jefferson.
- [131:10]
Pops Crowder
Well, lucky for Ben Franklin, he didn't have to worry about Congress having a circumcised brother marrying senator.
- [131:17]
Steven Crowder
Yes.
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Pops Crowder
Or representative.
- [131:18]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, that's true. Benjamin Franklin didn't have to worry about a gaggle of cackling bitches.
- [131:24]
Pops Crowder
Yeah. You said it differently.
- [131:25]
Steven Crowder
Yeah. Yeah, what he said. Next squad. Yeah, I say. Good man. Who let that in here?
- [131:34]
Pops Crowder
Why is she covering her head?
- [131:36]
Josh
Egad, is that a turban?
- [131:39]
Steven Crowder
Control your wench or escort her immediately. Preferably both.
- [131:44]
Pops Crowder
She speaks the devil's language in her own home.
- [131:46]
Steven Crowder
That's right. Eponics, you say? Not in my chambers. All right, why is that one who looks like a horse so loud. But if I may say, nice tit. She's. She's always saying nay. Oh, we don't need to know her vote. I know it before it happens. Nay. Somebody get that woman a carrot. Yes, and for the love of God, you shrill whore. So please vote. Present. For once, why don't you shut the hell up? Give us all one. All right, next.
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Joe
Next chat from bird dog22. As a California conservative on a college campus, I wear a Trump hat every day. Should I be worried that liberal violence against the right becomes more common, even to regular, common people?
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Steven Crowder
Yes.
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Pops Crowder
Yes.
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Joe
Sadly, yes.
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Pops Crowder
I mean, it's. It's happened. I mean, we saw it. I think it was Portland. You said Seattle. Maybe Seattle. Seattle, Portland. The guy was shot in the head for wearing a Trump hat. I get it. It was during a riot, and people tend to. Were high and stuff like that.
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Josh
There's one of them. That one. There's one of them.
- [132:51]
Steven Crowder
Get him. Yeah, yeah, he's a Trumper.
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Pops Crowder
I mean, it's happened already. People are. They do it all the time. You see videos of, you know, a guy on the train where a lady tried to take his hat. It was hilarious because she failed and she fell on a subway platform. But people are doing it. They. They're. They're yelling at you. They're. They're yelling at people in restaurants that people will hit you. A lot of times it's ladies.
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Josh
I admire the courage, though. California college campus, good for you.
- [133:17]
Steven Crowder
Take. Be. Be brave. And while at the same time taking the proper precautions. And be safe.
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Josh
And anyone comes in hot. What's your perimeter?
- [133:24]
Steven Crowder
Yep.
- [133:25]
Josh
What are you willing to give up? And then. I don't want to use that term. Protect yourself.
- [133:31]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, protect yourself. Err on the side of protecting yourself.
- [133:35]
Pops Crowder
Always wear a concealed carry if you can.
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Josh
Not in California. On a college campus.
- [133:40]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, that was like. And in where this took place, where Charlie Cook was, Students are allowed to carry firearms, even out in the open, and that's what you can. Shut up. Just shut up. Just stop. Like. Okay. All right, next chat.
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Joe
All right, next chat from Decent question Asker. Hey, morning. And thank you for what you do. Could A mass lawsuit backed by major conservative creators hold mainstream media legally accountable and or lead to new security measures. Stay safe.
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Steven Crowder
It's an interesting proposition. I'll talk with our half Asian lawyer and see.
- [134:15]
Gerald
Keep taking chats.
- [134:15]
Steven Crowder
Give me one minute. Okay. You going pee pee? He's going pee pee. He's going pee pee.
- [134:21]
Pops Crowder
He's going. He said no.
- [134:22]
Steven Crowder
So that means he has a big pee pee. Six, four. Big peepee man.
- [134:27]
Pops Crowder
I'm sorry, you know what?
- [134:29]
Steven Crowder
Childish.
- [134:30]
Pops Crowder
He is going poo poo. But he'll be back in two minutes.
- [134:33]
Steven Crowder
He takes the quickest.
- [134:34]
Pops Crowder
So evacuations come, they come out. It's like, you know when you like those clippers that have the vacuum on it?
- [134:41]
Steven Crowder
Yes.
- [134:42]
Pops Crowder
That's his body. Yeah, Right out.
- [134:45]
Steven Crowder
That's actually not a bad idea. A vacuum toilet.
- [134:48]
Pops Crowder
Suck it right out of you.
- [134:49]
Steven Crowder
Yeah. Ooh, climb up that butt.
- [134:54]
Pops Crowder
See, he's back already.
- [134:57]
Steven Crowder
Who's reading my thoughts?
- [135:02]
Joe
Shouldn't have put that mic in there.
- [135:07]
Steven Crowder
And I know that some people be horribly offended and say that we're not allowed to laugh today. But that's also what makes us us. And it adds up. And next chat.
- [135:15]
Joe
All right, next chat from Ace1589. Question for Stephen. Should we demand the senators and representatives that actively called for conservatives to be attacked and harassed be forced to step down? Thank you for everything. God bless.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, if you can. And I would also record if you can in public areas and town halls and ask them if they're responsible for the rhetoric. Particularly if you have a representative who's used terms like Nazi or threat to democracy. Just like with that professor. Call them on it and don't let them. It's okay if the crowd gets annoyed with you. It's okay. Assuming that it's a venue. Right. Where you're allowed to do this. Like it's different if it's a performance and it's. It's a one way performance. But if it's a town hall where they're supposed to ask questions, or if they're in a public space where it would be a reasonable expectation for their constituents to ask questions of them. And of course you are not threatening or violent. Grill them and don't let them simply obfuscate. It's okay if people get annoyed with you for doing it. I don't want. What was it? Maxine Waters and they should never have peace in diners and shit. Whatever she said.
- [136:18]
Josh
A fill in stuff station. Who says that?
- [136:20]
Steven Crowder
Station where they're getting their petrol.
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Pops Crowder
When you see the gas and oil. Yeah, the five and Dime.
- [136:26]
Steven Crowder
You tell them what's up. You see them all at the Sinclair? Yeah. Buying their Chester Fields at the Sticko when you see him at Sears.
- [136:35]
Josh
Yeah, but even people like Kamala, they're not going to stop, nor should they stop. Hold her accountable for that. That's unbelievable.
- [136:42]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, yeah. Did you see the left is calling her stepdaughter?
- [136:47]
Pops Crowder
The. The left? Sydney Sweeney.
- [136:49]
Steven Crowder
Yes. What?
- [136:50]
Pops Crowder
Yeah, she signed a modeling contract, apparently. I can't believe that. But, well, she's. God bless you then. Enjoy.
- [136:59]
Steven Crowder
I didn't know that we needed a left. Sydney Sweeney. Gerald's back from BP now. Yeah, I would. I don't want you to harass them and hurt them the way Maxine Waters implied. But I do want you to demand answers of them. Make. Hey, if you're tense because you're worried about being blown away or hit with the bike lock, least make them a little tense that they may be confronted with the truth. Next, a chat.
- [137:26]
Joe
All right, next chat from Newcastle 777. Question for crew. As a guy who wants to step into the political arena, how do I do so knowing I have a little one on the way and a wife that I have a hard time knowing they be put in harm's way.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah, yeah, look, I get that. I'll tell you the truth.
- [137:45]
Josh
It's not for everybody.
- [137:45]
Steven Crowder
It's not. Here's what I will tell you. Everyone can have an impact. And let me talk about your representatives having conversations. I don't know what you mean by the political arena. If you mean run for office, that's not something that I know a lot about or plan to do. If you're talking about, like, political media. Okay, a couple of things, and I will say this with a Change my mind. We had a handbook of things to do and things not to do. Don't announce it. Don't give people your whereabouts. Do not try and create a big crowd. Do not antagonize the crowd. Keep it intimate, keep it quiet. Make sure you are only in a place where you can secure the perimeter. And you feel confident in that, if you have to move, exit, because it's a lot more unsafe. That's why we switched to, for example, talking with people. Because change. You know, you're safer as a mobile unit with security if you go from one city to the next or different areas of the city. So take those precautions in your personal life. Make sure your house is unlisted. Make sure you have a security system, guns, a guard dog, all of that. Make sure you have situational awareness. And then if you're planning on entering. Because here's the thing. If you're planning on entering the political arena, meaning this space, know that for every Charlie Kirk or Ben Shapiro or Rush Limbaugh or Dan Bongino or people here, whoever you see know there's many tens of thousands who don't do well. In some cases it's luck. But I will say that certainly with someone like, you can say whatever you want about Charlie and a lot of people have disagreements with his views. The guy worked his ass. The guy worked a lot. That's one thing that we definitely shared in common. I know that that guy was a workhorse and yep, he had some resources and stuff that maybe you don't. And I understand that. But that doesn't change the fact that most people who think they're going to enter don't know if you want to do this full time. The waters you'll be swimming in. I will tell you the reason that people like Charlie and myself and Ben and people I know who are really successful in this movement, the reason that they're under threat is because for years, for years, 18 hour days where I ate, slept, breathed, it's all I thought about, all I worked for, all the time, and shaved years off of my life. Because not only is it something that I want to do, I was so scared that it wouldn't work and that it wouldn't be successful and that it mattered enough because we could change the direction of this country, that it was all encompassing to the point of obsessive. And I know that's the same thing with someone like a Charlie Kirk and someone like a. I know that it is. I know the. I know the type. And if that's not you, you're going to be up against guys like that. So think really long and hard before you want to take the risk. You can have an impact. You can do a lot of good. I see a lot of people going into this space and they don't take it seriously enough and they're a little bit too flippant and they make mistakes and before you get to even being physically harmed, they get embarrassed, they get hurt. So please know what you're in for. And if, hey, if you're willing to do that for years to the point where nothing else matters that's even close. And there's no balance whatsoever. Forget about life, work, balance. It's not a thing, then do it. If not, think if there's a better, more effective, safer way for you to make an impact and you can. Everyone can fight like hell. Look, when I say that applies just as much to the neurosurgeon as it does a barber. It applies just as much to the person working in the service industry as it does to an aerospace engineer. You all have something you can do, and you all have fighters, tributes you can support. If you are going to try and make yourself one of them, know what it encompasses. Also know most of the time, it's really not fun. It's really not that fun. So I just. Just don't want you to say that. No one told. No one told you. I can't tell you how many people.
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Pops Crowder
A lot of those guys, yourself included, Charlie, all the other people that are really successful at doing this, they all started before they formed a family, before they had children.
- [142:15]
Steven Crowder
It's pretty tough.
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Pops Crowder
It's a really, really hard thing to do. Having a. Having a child makes everything in your life way harder to do. I see it in stand up. You see, guys, they. They start stand up. When I actually started stand up when my wife was pregnant, it was very hard. And I took almost a year off after I first started. It took me longer to find success than it did other people because. Not because I was tired, but because I was at home. I was at home with Mike. I was taking care of the baby. My wife was having a heart. I had to help.
- [142:47]
Josh
Yeah, you killed your own momentum.
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Pops Crowder
Yeah, but you know what I did, it didn't bother me. I was like, hey, this is my place.
- [142:53]
Steven Crowder
That's right.
- [142:54]
Pops Crowder
I have a place on stage. Sure, but. But this is my place.
- [142:57]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
- [142:58]
Pops Crowder
Being here as a father, as a husband. And if it works, I will stand up. Fine. It's a fun hobby. Every once in a while I get away from the house and have a beer and tell some jokes. And if it ever works out, then I'll spend more time on it and pursue it.
- [143:11]
Steven Crowder
And. You're very funny, but you have, you certainly have more like worth work, life, balance. I mean, look, Charlie believed in it and, and, and paid with his life in a senseless act of violence. Yeah, but that's because of what he put in, how much it meant to him. And someone else out there knew how much it meant to Chuck and how much it meant to other people. And that's why he was a target. And I've made some sacrifices. Look, I will. Yeah, it was before I had kids. I will tell you this. Doing change my minds. When I be out there, you can look at some old videos, go, holy shit. Completely exposed. I didn't care Back then, you could have some people say, I had a death wish. And they might have been. They might have been. Right, Nonsense. But I was just out there like, whatever, whatever it takes. Had kids changed dramatically where that was really the primary reason, because I can't imagine them being told, hey, this happened to your dad. And them going, why was he doing that? Right. They're always going to. So that changed. It's different. Just know what it entails. It encompasses and it's very unlikely. I would advise you to have a really positive impact in the. In the way that's more commensurate with the kind of work life balance that you want to have. Because there's a very tall price to pay and sometimes people don't take it into account. Next.
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Josh
And cnn, before you do that, is really trying to. Both sides it here. They just a few minutes ago had the Gretchen Whitmer plot. January 6th, Paul Pelosi's attack. And they swept the screen with all these. As though these things are the same.
- [144:42]
Steven Crowder
And.
- [144:42]
Josh
And then included Charlie Kirk and these other things. So they're going to try to both sides it. And the average person that watches this.
- [144:48]
Steven Crowder
Hold on a second. Which ones did you say were on the screen?
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Josh
Gretchen Whitmer.
- [144:52]
Steven Crowder
Okay.
- [144:52]
Josh
Fake Jan6.
- [144:53]
Steven Crowder
Okay.
- [144:54]
Josh
Paul Pelosi hammer attack, you know, with his boyfriend.
- [144:57]
Steven Crowder
Was the attempted assassination Donald Trump there?
- [144:59]
Josh
Yes, it was down the line.
- [145:01]
Steven Crowder
Okay.
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Josh
Is it one of the.
- [145:03]
Steven Crowder
Was Black Lives Matter riots there? No.
- [145:05]
Gerald
No.
- [145:06]
Steven Crowder
Was Chaz there? No. Was Covenant School shooting there?
- [145:09]
Gerald
Nope.
- [145:10]
Josh
Nope.
- [145:10]
Steven Crowder
So they try to go, look, Charlie Kirk, a long line of. And you don't present the most significant ones.
- [145:15]
Josh
They're calling it escalation in political discord. So that's it. The average fool is gonna watch that and go, well, it is both sides and you'll have to smack them.
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Steven Crowder
Yeah. Now think about this. Think of how many incidents of violence they have to skip to get to Paul Pelosi with a hammer that's comparable to Charlie Kirk or Donald Trump or the Summer of Love. Like, they're going like, hey, I want to find a tragedy. Like, hey, this one. We're like 70 people. No, no, no, not, not, not that one. Here's Settle in Spring. No, no, no, not that one. Not that one. Hammer underpants.
- [145:46]
Josh
Yeah. What are the motivations? Oh, wait, forget that.
- [145:49]
Steven Crowder
Yeah. All right, next chat. Is there something breaking there, Joe?
- [145:52]
Gerald
I just hate his reply.
- [145:53]
Steven Crowder
Sorry. Well, we all do.
- [145:55]
Gerald
Well, I know you might hate him. Oh, stop. So, you know, just putting the same thing in the last few years, we've seen the plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitman, storming of the Capitol and pipe bombs left at the RNC and dnc. The break in to kidnap Nancy Pelosi and the brutal on Paul Pelosi. Multiple assassination attempts against Trump. And here's why you're probably going to hate him even more. The assassination.
- [146:17]
Steven Crowder
The assassination of Minnesota House Speaker Melissa. I can't read.
- [146:21]
Joe
Melissa Hortman and her husband and the shooting of on State Senator John Hoffman's wife.
- [146:28]
Gerald
So part of my problem with this list is you're equating all of these things to one side or the other. We're not saying that there's not political violence that affects people. What we're saying is you can't say a crazy guy in an isolated incident doing something is the same as somebody having trans ideology and anti fascist comments on the shell casings, killing somebody who's speaking on it. That is a totally different thing. Yes, both are violent acts, right? Yes. People are killed and of course we hate seeing that. But it's not the same thing because it absolves them of responsibility. It does have Luigi Mendona. Yeah, exactly. It absolves them.
- [147:10]
Steven Crowder
See, this just happens. This happens.
- [147:12]
Gerald
And people that are affected by both sides.
- [147:14]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, yeah.
- [147:14]
Gerald
But one's different. One's different. When you go after Donald Trump and try to shoot him because you literally think he's Hitler, he's a Nazi. Where did that ideology come from? People didn't wake up one morning and go, hey, that guy that did that show one time where he would fire people, he's Hitler. I don't know, I just had a dream about it. Now he's Hitler. And that just kind of matriculated out into society, right? No, that was born and bred and thrust into America by the media, basically trying to discredit Donald Trump and anything that he tries to do. So trying to equate these things to me is sickening. And go, no, no, no, it's all the same. It just happens. You can't, you can't, you can't really pull any lessons from this at all.
- [147:51]
Steven Crowder
And this is why this is so different where they're really, really screwing up. They don't understand. And there aren't many people on earth who honestly can understand because they haven't been in that spot. I saw them in the media yesterday talking about like Brian Stelter, he said something like, and you know, out there in the open on campus, which, you know, it's different when we're here in a studio. Well, no shit. You don't know what it's like. There aren't many people who've sat in that chair surrounded. Right. There's Charlie. I can relate to it. Obviously, there might be a couple of others, but they, they equate this here. And they're trying to go both sides. And what they don't realize is that they're trying to do that when the flashpoint here, Charlie Kirk, part of his message was, and don't forget, it's not both sides. And so when he gets killed by the one side that he's been saying, see, this is the side that is violent. And I don't advocate that. And I'm willing to have conversations and remember everybody just like I've been saying. I know Charlie Kirk was saying this. We were united on this. He would always. And remember, it's not both sides. If you look at the acts of violence, then he's killed by a radical leftist. Their fault. Blood on their hands. I'll say that. I'll stand behind it. They go and both sides. Yeah. But the problem is the guy who was killed was killed because he was saying it's kind of not both sides. You done up. It's not going to work. It's not going to work.
- [149:13]
Josh
And their audience doesn't even know that the tranny that shot the kids in the. In the church had killed Trump on the rifle he used. They don't even know that.
- [149:20]
Pops Crowder
No, they still don't.
- [149:22]
Josh
He had written down Trump somewhere.
- [149:24]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
- [149:24]
Josh
Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
They still think he's pro Trump.
- [149:26]
Steven Crowder
Yeah. Cultural engraving.
- [149:27]
Josh
That's where I get my cultural phrases.
- [149:29]
Steven Crowder
Cultural phrases engraved on the bullets.
- [149:31]
Josh
Yeah.
- [149:32]
Gerald
Like homies. That's a culture.
- [149:34]
Josh
Yeah.
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Pops Crowder
We're here. We're coming for your children.
- [149:36]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
- [149:37]
Pops Crowder
What cultural phrases? I was trying to think of them like, what are the. If they're. If they're. If they're. If they're accurate with that. But being deceitful. What would have a cultural phrase for trans rights activists which they have rights or a anti fascist.
- [149:51]
Steven Crowder
Well, no one thinks of trans as.
- [149:52]
Josh
Cultural or in this way lyrics.
- [149:54]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
- [149:55]
Pops Crowder
No Way lyrics.
- [149:56]
Steven Crowder
It seems as 36 is engraved with Kyrgyzstan's national dish recipe. Oh, they wanted a cultured experience shout.
- [150:08]
Gerald
Less than 24 hours later, the left is. Sorry. My throat was just clogged. Sorry. Hassan tweets this out. Charlie Kirk opposed the Civil Rights Act. Called George Floyd a scumbag. Said he'd be worried about black pilots and that he'd force his daughter to carry a pregnancy to term if she was raped. He shouldn't have Been killed, but definitely was an extremist.
- [150:29]
Steven Crowder
Wow. Okay, hold on. Let me. Can you. Can you guys zoom in? Because I can't see that. Okay. Okay. Charlie Kirk opposed the Civil Rights Act. No, he didn't. Call George Floyd a scumbag. Don't know, but I'd support it. Said he'd be worried about black pilots. I'm not familiar with that one. And let's go to the next one. He'd force his daughter to carry a pregnancy to term if she was raped. Okay, let's change that one. He wouldn't allow his daughter to commit murder because he wouldn't want his daughter to answer an act of evil with an equal act of evil. Because he would be consistent. See, we can both do that, you piece of shit.
- [151:02]
Josh
In the bigger context, he worried about DEI hires as pilots. Doesn't matter where they're from.
- [151:06]
Steven Crowder
Yes, has.
- [151:07]
Josh
No.
- [151:07]
Steven Crowder
No.
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Josh
No matter their color or gender.
- [151:09]
Steven Crowder
Is that what it was? Okay.
- [151:10]
Pops Crowder
He wouldn't want his daughter to answer to God for murdering her baby.
- [151:13]
Steven Crowder
Yeah. What a different way of saying yeah. How's that?
- [151:16]
Pops Crowder
I mean, George Floyd was a scumbag.
- [151:17]
Steven Crowder
He was a scumbag.
- [151:18]
Pops Crowder
He was a scumbag. Whether you think he deserved to die or not, whether you think it was murder from Derek, whether that whole. That whole scenario doesn't matter, That's a whole different thing. He was a scumbag.
- [151:27]
Steven Crowder
He was a scumbag's life.
- [151:29]
Pops Crowder
He robbed people. He stole. He ignored his kids. I forget the crimes. He's a piece of shit without the crimes.
- [151:36]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, he was a scumbag.
- [151:37]
Josh
Very nice. He shows up, Giant scumbag.
- [151:39]
Steven Crowder
He shows up at a barbecue, Right? Hey, I'll prove it to you. He shows up at a barbecue with you. Go. Wait. Careful. That's the guy who robbed the woman at Gunpowder Point with her kid there and beat the shit out of her and her. And, you know, he might be on a speedball. You'd go, let's make sure the kids are away from George Floyd. Hey, what's George clipping?
- [151:58]
Josh
My son at the barbecue. What is he doing?
- [152:00]
Pops Crowder
People will call me a scumbag for saying that. Calling him a scumbag.
- [152:04]
Steven Crowder
I know, well.
- [152:05]
Josh
And look, all of that debunked 30 seconds.
- [152:07]
Gerald
It's very easy to debunk that. I mean, we've got debunking of the DEI code. He's basically saying, that's not who I am. That's not what I believe. But a. He's been forced to believe that because of DEI policies, saying, man, I Hope that person's qualified.
- [152:18]
Steven Crowder
By the way, you know what that is almost verbatim what I said, it changed my mind. To the girl who said, well, I'm here at ut, she said, I don't think I would be here for affirmative action. And I said, really? I said, well, what were your scores? And she gave me. I don't remember. She gave me pretty impressive GPA, extracurriculars, SATs. And I said, great candidate. That's so sad to me that you earned your spot here, but you could never know, right? And you don't believe in yourself. Yeah. And she, she, you could see she was just in the same thing. That's the thing. Like, hey, I, I've said if I look at. If I. Same thing. By the way, this is one of those things where we need to not go because people go. I don't agree with everything you said. Yeah, yeah. If I see a black female pilot might be in the back of my mind. Hope she was the best one for the job. Wouldn't exist without dei. It would be a non issue.
- [153:05]
Gerald
I'd know she qualified just like everybody else.
- [153:07]
Steven Crowder
That's right.
- [153:08]
Gerald
There were no special considerations given. My point is, that's what they call extremism.
- [153:13]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
- [153:14]
Gerald
This is the voice of the left.
- [153:17]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
- [153:17]
Gerald
By all accounts. I'm sorry, I'm just reading, I'm just reading what the papers are putting out about this guy. He's the voice of the left. Fine. I'll give you the moniker.
- [153:24]
Steven Crowder
Great.
- [153:24]
Gerald
Voice of the left says it's extreme to not want babies killed in the womb. Those are the extremes.
- [153:33]
Steven Crowder
By the way, how many shots been taken at. Is it his Uncle Uyghur there at Young Turks or whatever his name is? Wasanabi Hasanabi. How many shots been taken? How many bike locks he been hit with? How many lunch boxes stolen from. Have been thrown at him?
- [153:49]
Gerald
Joke about the pagers and you know. And said, you don't have a pager, do you? So I guess that's, you know, Mehdi Hasan, you know, he was offended by that. That's what they get. And that's like kicking people off.
- [154:00]
Pops Crowder
Remember somebody impersonated him once at a festival.
- [154:02]
Steven Crowder
2.5 million would be my estimate. Just on security that we've probably had to spend in the last few years.
- [154:07]
Josh
Do you remember the fear? Because it was a trend of fast food cups. You didn't know if there was cement in them. That was the trend.
- [154:15]
Steven Crowder
That Kiefer Sutherland look alike in front of the Google headquarters.
- [154:18]
Josh
Fill them with cement. People think it's a shake now. Whip it.
- [154:20]
Steven Crowder
Yep. Yeah.
- [154:21]
Gerald
Andy, no, had those things. Remember the video of him?
- [154:25]
Steven Crowder
Yep, yep. Yeah, I do. How many, how many of that these guys?
- [154:29]
Gerald
None of those lists had Andy Noe on it, by the way. I just, just, just for clarification purposes.
- [154:33]
Steven Crowder
Right. Hey, Andy. No, we hear you. We see you. Just so you know. Hey, Ben Shapiro. We see you. We hear you. People had sawed off shotguns ready for you when the media wasn't interested. You know, like I said, it's celebrate the man who was willing to take the risks knowing. Because Charlie Kirk, like all of us, had to deal with consequences on an ongoing basis and had to manage the risk. And what you are seeing is in an absolute tragic fashion, one that got through because we are all constantly, constantly having to block, block, block, block and put up measures. And I'm telling you, the left doesn't. They don't. I know. I know it. Because when I would. For God's sakes, when I would do things at hln, I was a Fox News for four and a half years, and I would go over to the liberal networks or local news, they would just be walking around not even having security. And I remember back then, Sean Hannity having to walk around with a whole, like a whole detail. And I just remember what you just. You walking out of hln. Okay. It's totally different. Totally different.
- [155:39]
Josh
You know, back then, Dr. Drew probably didn't need security. But you wonder now, now that he's kind of, you know, come a little more center.
- [155:48]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
- [155:48]
Josh
You turncoat.
- [155:49]
Steven Crowder
Get him. Yeah.
- [155:52]
Josh
Because he was at HLN when you were. You were doing that show.
- [155:55]
Steven Crowder
I can tell you.
- [155:55]
Josh
Joe Rogan times.
- [155:57]
Steven Crowder
Yeah. First time I did Joe Rogan show, I was blown away. He had less security than I do. When he was at that point before, he had veered more into the right. He was sort of, you know, dipping his toe in. I know he does now. I wonder if Joe Rogan would tell you there has to. There's been a change. I wonder if Joe Rogan would tell you that. Oh, the second he went to, like, before you get to someone being blown away and it's awful in this way, I just don't want you to forget about it in two days or two weeks. Because them saying that Joe Rogan is advocating horse paste and changing the tint to lie to you about him is enough. That's enough. In other words, that's bad enough. And it's constant risk. And if you protect yourself physically, reputationally, right then, hey, Joe Rogan Advocating crazy New age medicine. Steven Crowder, hitting wife. Don't look at the court records. Hey, Charlie Kirk, riddled with scandal. There was something they tried to do a while back. I don't even remember what it was. Uh, something with Ben Shapiro. There's always something. Oh, they're a bad bo. They're bet hard to work with. K. But the point is they try and destroy the reputation. And it's a block, and it's a block, and it's a block. And when you live with these lies and you see it, and we see it today, that's why we try and show it to you. So you see it in real time. So you see it in real time. You see the cultural engravings, cultural phrases at cnn. But for everyone, you see, there are hundreds of examples that get through that we're not able to catch. It's just lie, lie, lie, because the ends justify the means. Let's grab. Let's grab a final chat here. Yeah. And my mouth is dry.
- [157:37]
Joe
All right. Final chat from. Oh, look, a dime. Do you see this as the modern shot heard round the world?
- [157:46]
Steven Crowder
In a way, yeah. And I think this is because we were all here, just exhausted after the Rutska thing. It really took it out of us. And I think you guys saw it before what happened with Charlie. And I think the waves taking place that week and the reaction therein made it really clear. I can't think of any other time in my life where you had something that galvanized people so much because. Specifically because they were being lied to. Right, Zarudska. Where they were being gaslit immediately. And I saw people getting really mad saying, okay, something here needs to change. And by the way, how do you know it's righteous anger? Is it based on truth? Was it based on the fact Black men are 12 times more likely to kill white men than the other way around? Yes. And that this is a man who could have been stopped. The big thing is evil, awful, and predictable and enabled. That's what you saw with Zarutsky 14 times. And that's what you saw with Charlie Kirk.
- [158:51]
Pops Crowder
That's a good choice of wording there. The question was, shot, Is this the next shot heard around the world? Shot heard around the world. The news of that got to the rest of the world pretty slow.
- [159:02]
Steven Crowder
Yeah. Yeah.
- [159:03]
Pops Crowder
And it was heard. We saw it. We talked about this yesterday. Was that the most graphic assassination we've seen?
- [159:09]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
- [159:10]
Pops Crowder
In history? I think so. We. We talked about jfk, but it's grainy.
- [159:15]
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
- [159:15]
Pops Crowder
And they cut it quick. And it was live tv. This is all over the Internet. It was a very graphic video. It affected. It affected us way, way differently. And the whole world saw it within two hours.
- [159:30]
Josh
Yeah, it's definitely an inflection point. He's getting the Medal of Freedom. They're going to name that plaza at the campus after him.
- [159:35]
Steven Crowder
Good.
- [159:36]
Josh
I was delighted to see on the way in, as I know you guys were local business as that big flag, half mast.
- [159:42]
Steven Crowder
Yeah, I think it's. I've never. I can't remember anything in my lifetime where you've had a situation where it's. It's happened as a 12 like this, and. And it's the same problem. Yeah. And I know the level said. Well, it shows. It's gun control. It's not. It could be a white shooter, so. No, no, no, no. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the same problem of the enablement and the propagandizing of the evil left. The only reason. The only reason that Zarutska is dead is because people had consumed enough propaganda to believe that, my God, this criminal should be out on time. 14. We've been doing it the left way with that judge, with that D.A. with that record. That was the result of the left's policies. We went along with them. It's okay. It's targeting. It's not crime. It's targeting. It's racial bias. Let's correct that. Okay? It's discriminatory because it's a system that is predicated on, you know, black people being more likely to commit crimes, so they're disproportionately affected. So let's just make it cashless bail. The left had their way. We see the results. It's awful that it's predictable. Not that you know when it will happen or how it will happen, but that something like this will happen. And then you get to Charlie Kirk and you go, this is the result of vilifying anyone who dares to speak out and put their money where their mouth is and have some skin in the game. This is what happens when you vilify every single one of those people as a Nazi, an abuser, a genocidal maniac, a violator of civil rights, a homophobe, a racist. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. Liar, radical. The reason that Charlie Kirk. I guarantee the person who did it, there is no reason. Just to be clear again, Grace, don't try and twist my words. The reason the shooter would say that he shot Charlie Kirk is because Charlie Kirk was a Danger in radicalizing youth. Well, let me ask you this. Radicalizing youth to lower the marginal tax rates. Radicalizing youth to say you should have to wait until you're 18 to make decisions regarding your sexual reproduction capabilities for the rest of your life. Radicalizing the youth by saying, hey, you should be merit based and not dei. Radicalizing youth by encouraging them to carry babies and raise them or if not capable, put them up for adoption. That's radicalizing youth, in other words. Look, we've talked about this with J. With jfk, Jesus. Sorry, With Jesus Christ and Muhammad. If everyone followed Jesus prescription in your neighborhood, you'd have a pretty kickass neighborhood. Might be a little weird. You might. You might every now and then, you know, be short on water because it's constantly turning to wine. But outside of that, you probably have a good neighbor. If every one of your neighbors acted like Muhammad, you'd be Muslim or you'd be dead immediately. Right? So let's just look. Okay, so right now, Charlie Kirk, the reason the shooter, the reason the piece of shit terrorist took Charlie Kirk's life is because he believed that Charlie Kirk, just as he believes that us and you are radicalizing the youth. How often have you heard about echo chambers? Right? We need to stop the radicalizing echo chamber. Okay, here's a change of mind. Here's a proven. What? We're gonna ban it. Hey, we have a problem with an echo chamber. Okay, well, let's just have these conversations and you can't cite crime statistics and YouTube bans you to create their echo chamber. So this guy believed that Charlie Kirk was radicalizing the youth because the media said that everyone on the right is a radical right. Right wing extremists. It's a stupid term that means that you're anywhere from moderate left to right. Charlie Kirk, if everyone followed his prescriptions, very similar to mine. But let's just talk about the main, the moral ones. Yeah, we'd have fewer abortions. We'd have fewer divorces. We would have lower taxes. We would have a strong military and a police presence. We would have less tolerance for crime. We wouldn't have open borders. Young men would grow in to become primary providers for their family while the women raised the children as opposed to the state. And you would have open dialogue with anyone who was willing to engage. That's good. If everyone in your neighborhood was Charlie Kirk, you'd have a pretty good neighborhood. Whether you would agree with him on everything or not. Be a pretty good neighborhood if everyone in your neighborhood believed what that shooter believed. That Charlie Kirk is radicalizing the youth. And anyone in the right wing, you'd have a bloodbath. Your neighborhood will be a bloodbath. And so I ask you, who is radicalizing who? Because like I told you before, the only guarantee when you don't have complete information, when you're looking for answers and you don't have them, you can't make definitive claims. In a lot of ways, if you don't have the whole picture except one, the left's prescription and answer will be wrong. And so they start with the kernel of a lie. Charlie Kirk and his ilk are the ones radicalizing the youth who need to be eliminated and need to be marginalized and off of big tech platforms. So the solution, the less severe version, is you don't get to speak. People like Charlie, people like us, people like you don't get to speak. The severe version is people believe that kernel of a lie and they go and do what this piece of shit leftist terrorists did to Charlie Kirk. You start with the truth, with an incomplete picture. Charlie Kirk is not the first to experience an act of violence. It's not the first time he himself experienced an act of violence. It's only one side. It's been enabled. This has been boiling. And that's what needs to stop. If all your neighbors were Charlie Kirk, you'd have a pretty good neighborhood. If all your neighbors believed as the shooter did what cnn, abc, NBC, cbs, what leftist media and their big tech enablers believe, you'd have a lot more dead Charlie Kirks. What kind of America do you want to live in? And when you, when you pick your side, everything you can do to fight like hell, every single moment, fight like hell. The meaning doesn't change, the approach does. Unbridled aggressivity, righteous indignation, anger, discipline, and take no prisoners when dealing with those who present an active threat because they are more numerous than they used to be. Don't go out looking for violence. Don't misquote this, but defense just got a whole lot more fortified in your life. And your willingness and readiness to defend with your life and limb just went up exponentially because they'll take it from you if they can. You just saw the one that got through. Let's do everything we can to make sure they don't get through. We'll see you tomorrow. Maybe.