Homan to Minnesota - What This Means + MCU Infiltrates Signal

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: Louder with Crowder
Host: Steven Crowder
Episode: Homan to Minnesota – What This Means + MCU Infiltrates Signal
Date: January 28, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Steven Crowder and his team dive into breaking stories at the intersection of news, politics, and culture. The main themes focus on:

• The infiltration of Minnesota ICE tracking operations by left-wing activists, journalists, and the exposure of this network via Signal chats.
• The recent attack on Rep. Ilhan Omar and speculation about whether it was staged, along with a discussion of Omar's alleged fraud and controversies.
• Broader commentary on the conflicts over federal immigration enforcement in Minnesota, the shifting rhetoric of the Trump administration, and the real-world risks posed to ICE officers.
  The episode is delivered in Crowder's trademark irreverent, satirical style, mixing news breakdowns, sketches, and pointed critique.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Signal Chats & Organized Tracking of ICE Agents

[00:00, 33:46, 35:11]

• Crowder introduces an exclusive "Mug Club Undercover" report on left-wing activist networks using Signal to coordinate surveillance and harassment of ICE officers in Minnesota.
• These groups monitor, follow, and attempt to dox ICE agents with detailed tactics, using shared databases (e.g., “hosted on Airtable”) and communication protocols.
• “Some journalists in these Signal chats, very active journalists, maybe doing more than...journalizing. Point is, they're operative hacks.” — Steven Crowder [00:50]
• Audio from infiltrated calls demonstrates activists executing real-time pursuit and license-plate gathering on ICE vehicles ([36:39]).
• Journalists from ProPublica (Lisa Song, Maya Miller) are identified as active participants, allegedly collaborating with activists instead of maintaining neutrality.
• Crowder issues an open invitation for these journalists to appear on his show and defend their practices. ([44:03])
• He emphasizes that these acts put officers and their families at risk, characterizing them as a form of doxing/harassment.

“Organizers are actually pulling from a massive database of license plates... This is organized and it’s a very real threat to ICE.” — Steven Crowder [37:23]

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2. Ilhan Omar Incident – Attack Analysis & Broader Context

[12:17, 13:53, 16:04, 18:00]

• Video and discussion of the recent incident where Rep. Ilhan Omar was sprayed with an unknown substance at a town hall event.

• Crowder dispels conspiracy theories about the attack being staged but also highlights oddities, encouraging viewers to look at available evidence and references.

  • “If you want to know my opinion, it seems like this is somebody who obviously didn’t like Ilhan Omar... I wouldn’t jump right away to this being staged...” ([12:17])

• The suspect, Anthony James Kazmierczyk (“Fat Gerard Butler”), is profiled: 55, unemployed, prior DUIs, but not known for violence.

• Details include his social media leanings, possible issues with trans-identifying children, and neighborhood reports on his medicated state.

• The incident is compared to more severe attacks seen elsewhere, with the key point that even this non-lethal event evokes justified fear among public officials.

• Omar’s immediate and defiant response is played:

  “You know, I’m going to go figure if I am [okay], but I feel okay... I’ve survived war, and I’m not startled by intimidation or whatever these people think they can throw at me because I’m built that way.” — Ilhan Omar [16:04]

• The team discusses why quick assumptions of staging are counterproductive, distracting from real legal or moral critiques of Omar.

  • “Let’s be truthful. ... Apply your filter consistently to the left and right.” — Steven Crowder [23:08]

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3. Ilhan Omar’s Alleged Fraud & Financial Growth

[24:28, 26:03]

• Extended rundown of Omar’s ongoing investigations for campaign finance/asset fraud since 2024 (notably, under a Democratic DOJ).
• Her familial and financial controversies, from alleged marriage to her brother (longstanding unrefuted claim) to spectacular asset growth supposedly from “a winery.”
  • “In 2023, assets numbered anywhere from $40,000 to $250,000. One year later, 2024: $6 million to $30 million...a 6,500% to 10,000% growth.” ([25:58])
• Crowder has co-host Gerald (an ex-wine industry professional) clarify that such expansion is “not only atypical, it’s never happened in the history of the wine industry.”
• Connects Omar’s finances to broader welfare scandals within Minnesota’s Somali community.

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4. Leftist Media, Activism, and Journalistic Ethics

[38:58, 41:02, 44:03]

• Crowder examines how ProPublica journalists, by participating in activist Signal chats and soliciting stories against ICE, blur the line between journalism and activism.
  • “This is no longer journalism, it’s activism. And it’s fine if you tell everyone that you’re no journalist, but you’re an activist.” — Steven Crowder [44:03]
• Examples of their reporting (e.g., on tear gas, homeless sweeps) as evidence of a bias, reinforcing Crowder’s critique of “legacy media.”
• He expresses concern for one-sided narratives and how personal data leaks by media almost always disadvantage right-wing actors.

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5. Minnesota Immigration Standoff & ICE Enforcement

[49:15, 50:35, 53:35, 56:34]

• In-depth commentary on the battle between Minnesota’s Democratic politicians (Governor Walz, Mayor Fry) and the federal government over cooperation with ICE.
• Walz’s shifting “tone” on immigration enforcement and the arrival of Tom Homan (ex-acting Director of ICE) in Minnesota are highlighted.
  • “If you were to go down a list of who is most qualified to deal with a scenario that now has national attention, can anyone make the case for someone better than Tom Homan?” — Steven Crowder [49:26]
• Local officials openly refuse to cooperate with federal detainer requests, creating a scenario where ICE must operate more aggressively in communities instead.
  • “Minneapolis does not and will not enforce federal immigration laws.” — Mayor Jacob Fry, quoted by Crowder [56:34]
• Crowder discusses the practical, financial, and ethical implications: detained illegal immigrants (including violent criminals) are neither handed over to ICE nor deported, at taxpayer expense.

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6. Federal–Local Tension & Trump Administration Communication

[60:01, 62:17]

• Criticism of the Trump administration’s communications—particularly its “softer tone” and occasional misstatements—provides cover for defiant local leaders.
• President Trump’s comments on Minnesota’s situation are played and critiqued, especially for not forcefully defending the right to bear arms and for expressing sympathy for the “wrong” issues.
  • “I don’t like the fact that he was carrying a gun that was fully loaded and he had two magazines with him. ...Nobody knows when they saw the gun, how they saw the gun, everything else.” — Donald Trump [60:46]
• Crowder insists that federal immigration matters—like removal of illegal immigrants and criminal aliens—fall under unambiguous federal jurisdiction.

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7. Satirical Takes, Cultural Commentary, and Memorable Moments

Sprinkled throughout

• The crew’s off-topic banter, parody sketches, and jabs at pop culture figures (Ellen DeGeneres, Katy Perry, etc.) maintain comedic tone while reinforcing themes of hypocrisy and liberal privilege.

• Notable quip:

  “Journalists in the Signal chats...maybe doing more than what some would argue is simply doing journalism, journalizing. Point is, they're operative hacks.” — Steven Crowder [00:50]

• Commentary on activists and “cosplaying” law-enforcement tactics:

  “They get to cosplay as, like, law enforcement or, like, military operators while condemning it. That’s so cute.” — Co-host [48:19]

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Timestamps & Notable Quotes

| Timestamp | Segment | Notable Quote/Highlight | |-----------|---------|------------------------| | 00:50 | Signal Chats & Journalists | “Some journalists in these Signal chats... operative hacks.” – Crowder | | 13:53 | Omar Attack Incident | (Plays attack audio/video) “We will continue this...” – Omar [14:23] | | 16:04 | Omar’s Response | “I feel that it is important… to not let these people intimidate us…” – Omar | | 23:08 | Stage or Not | “Let’s be truthful… Apply your filter consistently to the left and right.” – Crowder | | 26:03 | Omar’s Finances | “In 2023, assets numbered anywhere from 40k to 250k... 2024: 6M to 30M.” – Crowder | | 27:15 | Wine Industry Satire | “Gerald, has any winery ever grown 10,000% in a year?” “No, never.” | | 37:23 | ICE Tracking Exposé | “This is organized and...a very real threat to ICE.” – Crowder | | 44:03 | Activism/Journalism Line | “This is no longer journalism, it’s activism.” – Crowder | | 49:26 | Tom Homan to Minnesota | “If you were to go down a list… better than Tom Homan?” – Crowder | | 56:34 | Mayor Fry’s Statement | “Minneapolis does not and will not enforce federal immigration laws.” — Fry, read by Crowder | | 60:46 | Trump Comms Critique | (Plays Trump clip) “Not the right line of argument.” – Crowder | | Throughout | Satire | “They get to cosplay as, like, law enforcement or military operators while condemning it. That’s so cute.” – Co-host [48:19] |

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Conclusion & Takeaways

• The episode exposes the depth of left-wing activism—journalistic and otherwise—targeting ICE, arguing that such movements are well-organized and constitute serious risks for federal law enforcement.
• Crowder uses the recent Omar incident to illustrate both the heightened tensions and the tendency of both sides to jump to unsubstantiated conclusions.
• The show points to massive breakdowns in federal-local law enforcement collaboration, especially over illegal immigrant criminals in Minnesota, and the “failed messaging” by the Trump administration.
• Throughout, Crowder maintains an aggressively satirical, confrontational tone, skewering politicians, activists, journalists, and media figures deemed complicit or corrupt.
• Listeners are encouraged to remain vigilant, seek out primary sources, and not fall victim to narrative-driven misinformation—regardless of political orientation.

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If you missed the episode, this summary covers all major breaking news, exclusive investigations, and the ongoing war over ICE's presence in Minnesota, as well as Crowder’s signature take on media, political hypocrisy, and the current state of American activism.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome, Vince. Viewers, welcome to the lineup. Live on rumble, 9am to 7pm Eastern. You don't need to change that channel. You don't even need to close the tab. You don't even need to unlock your phone. It's all free. Each show rolls into the next. A lot to get to today. Some, I guess, exclusive information. You know, the signal chats you've been seeing these, the track ice, the docs ice, the grab the license plate of ice. Signal Chats. You've seen some information out there. Cam Higby has done some great work. We've been in there for a while where it's kind of like we can see some of the people like, hey, oh, you're here, too. But we also notice some journalists in these signal chats, very active journalists, maybe doing more than what some would argue is simply doing journalism, journalizing. Point is, their operative hacks. And we'll get to that. That's exclusive today. Mug Club Undercover is bringing that to you. Also, Ilan Omar. Look, is this a conspiracy or she just a Somali pirate? Alleged terrorist, Brother Marrier, who off one person too many. We'll give you the actual facts. I tend to believe that there are a lot of people out there who don't like her. The good news is, and I do mean this, this is good news. The attack is wrong. The good news is if it is someone on the right who is deranged, which is what it seems to be, someone who's mentally unstable, a squirt gun, in my opinion, and a kind, very polite request to resign is much better than an assassination. We want to obviously stop all of that, but if I was the person in question, I would much sooner choose a squirt gun than a real gun. You guys let me know. Maybe some of you would pick the real gun. Also in Minneapolis right now, the left is going to spin this as a victory. More. Tom Holman is always a good thing. Of course, you know that. But the Trump administration has been definitely bungling this as far as communication. Seems like they've softened their tone. We're going to give you the ins and outs and the roundabouts, and the rest of today's show will rhyme. You'll see in time. On with the show. No.

[B]

Make me come back here. So come back here.

[A]

You know what it is, Josh? Where's my money? American Financing restructured that loan. You're supposed to be handing me my money. Here. Here's my jar. 20%.

[B]

Oh, you got the jar.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Get the out of here, Steven. Oh, oh, what you doing, Stephen?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

What you gonna do, huh? You gonna shoot me in front of everybody?

[A]

Huh?

[C]

Come on.

[D]

What are you guys doing in here?

[A]

Was he American Gangster parody for American Financing?

[D]

No, no. They're never gonna go for that, man. Not gonna happen.

[B]

Oh, you know what? He's right. We need to make it more ethnically accurate.

[A]

Ethnic. We could go more ethnic.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[A]

Just shut it down.

[D]

We're not doing it, guys.

[A]

Ooh, I got some shoe polish in my office.

[E]

Nice. Is it kiwi?

[A]

It's kiwi, yeah. It's a neutral.

[B]

That's good stuff.

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It's tasteful. It won't be.

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Ooh, you know, I get shiny.

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Won't be over the. 20%.

[D]

Gerald, is that thing loaded?

[A]

Yes. Yes.

[D]

Look.

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Really?

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Uh huh.

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Don't lose out on your cut of the action. Go to American Finance.net Crowder or call 800-974-6500 today. All right. On average, customers are saving over $800 a month. A month? That's right. NMLS 182334. That's. What I. I'm sad. Oh, I'm sad. But that's not always all that bad.

[D]

Oh, no.

[A]

Because I miss Josh's mustache was the best we've ever had.

[B]

Well, what are we supposed to do? Look at me now.

[A]

E. Gad I look like Josh.

[B]

Gad now look at me.

[D]

Is that what we do to, like, applaud?

[A]

Is this.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You are just bad.

[B]

That's how you do it.

[D]

You're over here doing crappy rhymes, and I'm just trying to play along.

[B]

That wasn't slam poetry. That was just everyday, you know, Wednesday poetry.

[A]

Ah, that's right. That's right. That's right. That's right, Jerry. That's right.

[B]

Oh, you got the snaps, huh?

[A]

Yeah, you got snaps, huh? Huh? Yeah. I just found out. I found out. There's an equalizer three.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

I saw it in my feet.

[D]

It's like Easy Italy.

[A]

You filthy guineas just made my list. You bring me your branzino, It's a full godforsaken fish. Fuck you gonna do that for, huh? All right. Equalizer 3. I don't even. I didn't even know. Glad to be with you guys. It's a live show weekdays, 11am Eastern. Let me ask you, what should happen next in Minne. Don't say firebomb. Captain Morgan, CEO. How are you?

[D]

Doing well.

[A]

How are you? I am doing well. And Saturday, February 14th. That's the V Day Valentine's Day at Irv Theater in Dallas, Texas. Gonna be a great show. Josh Firestein is back. Welcome, sir.

[B]

I'm gonna make it my V day.

[A]

I'm making my V day. Yeah. Something like a teddy bear, chocolate flower.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Excuse my cough. I've been sick the last.

[A]

A lot to get to. You know, we have this. What stuck out to me being in the signal chat because a lot of other investigative journalists have been releasing as they go. We try and lay low a little bit because that can sometimes compromise what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. But what we've noticed is journalists in the anti ice signal chats. We're going to talk about that. Yeah. I haven't seen a lot of people point these folks out. And some of them we've maybe had some run ins with in the past. And by that, I just mean I don't like them. But first. Oh, that's right. I chose not to do the Chinese thing.

[B]

That's not completely true. You chose to save the Chinese.

[A]

That's true. We have a Chinese that'll probably go on a Friday show or a scrapyard show. But it's been a state of emergency for those in New York due to the snow. However, Monday. They knew how to deal with this. It did not stop their most essential services. Now, let's get things started.

[B]

I thought I was gonna be garbage men.

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Garbage women.

[D]

Normal studio attendance.

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It's just garbage.

[B]

Who are they smiling for? The cameramen?

[D]

Pretty much.

[A]

Yep. The ghosts of their dads.

[B]

Well, hello, hello, hello.

[G]

And welcome to the View, y'.

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All.

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Welcome to the View.

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I. All right, that's enough. Yeah, Completely empty. What a sad state of affairs. Now, do their wounds. Gross.

[B]

Seemed more lively. They had a tumbleweed. There wasn't even a tumbleweed in the studio.

[A]

And just to be clear, ghosts of death. If someone's going, like, so I'm. I. It was not meaning anyone. If their fathers had passed. I meant that they likely lacked father figures.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe that's worse.

[B]

You can be haunted by the living.

[A]

Yes, you can.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, you can. I mean, Gerald's there every day.

[B]

I know. Just haunting us.

[A]

Dude, he just. He's like the ghost of Marley. He just shows up and goes, I'll ruin your jokes.

[B]

What's the. What's the name for him? Is he called a spook?

[A]

No, I think he's a. He's more of a specter. A specter?

[H]

Yeah.

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There you go.

[D]

Sounds better like spooks and specters.

[B]

That sounds like something.

[A]

Scooby Doo. Yeah. Spooks and specters. It sounds like a choose your own path book. Yeah. Where no matter what you choose, it will be a spook and. Or specter.

[D]

Yeah, Specter movie. Those are the two options.

[A]

Go to page 42. Spook again. Who'd have thought? What were the chances? It was one and two. Meanwhile. Meanwhile, New York politicians, they want you to know just like remember. Remember Schumer with the grilling, the burgers?

[D]

With the burger.

[A]

The cheese? Yeah, the burgers, the cheese. And I don't even think the grill was on. Nope. They want you to know as it relates to snow. They are just like you.

[I]

Pro tips on shoveling from someone from Buffalo.

[A]

Who knows.

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Just push it out of the way.

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Okay.

[A]

See what I'm doing here? No strain on the back from doing that.

[B]

So use it like a shovel.

[D]

My long guy Paco taught me this.

[A]

Smaller bits.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Little bits.

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Little bit.

[B]

That's crazy. Cuz I've been pulling it from behind me.

[A]

Mom Donnie.

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Okay.

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With the.

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Well, that's his. That's his Uber driver.

[A]

So that's mom Donnie and his friends. Look, kids, Snow.

[D]

Gay.

[B]

That looks like the gayest airport ever.

[A]

Land the dicks.

[B]

Here, there. Here in me.

[A]

Oh, clip that rotoscope Gerald's face on me.

[B]

It's not as bad when we. When they clip us, Gerald. No different voices. I was doing it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is cool.

[A]

I was right.

[B]

That voice, you just do it in your regular voice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

See, you say stuff like climb up my butt or whatever.

[A]

Exactly. I exclusively like men. And we're like, don't say that.

[D]

Like.

[A]

No, I mean it. Everybody show me your penis. Yeah. It's like, whoa, Gerald. First off, that's a little Gestapo.

[B]

Like, yeah, that was a spot on impression, don't you think?

[A]

Ye.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes, I do. Thank you. I do. He's very Gestapo in demanding the seeing people's members. Problem is I don't think my patch can't fit on my sleeve.

[B]

What is your number? If it's not 69, you're going in the wagon.

[A]

That's right. That's right. That's always our favorite number.

[D]

I need to do a voice.

[A]

Got it.

[D]

It'll suck.

[A]

Do a voice and then we'll revert it back to American. We'll use AI to make it your voice. There's no escape. It's choose your own Path, page 42. Cheryl's gay every end. Oh, does it still hurt to laugh? Poor Josh, he was sick. He was like, please, let's not laugh. Oh God, Gerald has his last laugh. See Ours is good fun. And he laughs. He's like, ah, you're internally hemorrhaging.

[B]

He's like, oh, look at you. Your stomach is bleeding.

[A]

Oh, by the way, it's a good time to tell. I should tell these guys. I. I cannot believe that they still allow all the ads that we do. But American financing, they really. They've helped friends of mine, actual close friends, save a bunch of Money. Go to AmericanFinancing.net Crowder. Or you can call 800-974-6500. I have to say, NMLS 1823-341-8234. Sometimes you guys will see the commercials and just like, that was a funny sketch. No, it actually is a sponsor. And they. I even have a friend, just to let you know, who saved money not using American financing, but I think got a quote, and their bank was like, they can what? Huh? Like, all right. Okay, okay, okay. Well, we'll give you better. He was like, was that easy? You were screwing me the whole time.

[B]

So a friend of mine, a comedian friend of mine, didn't know is a real company.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

He's like, dude, I don't watch the Crowder show very much, but I saw your American financing. Those, like, the fake, you know, mortgage company commercials. I'm like, that's not fake.

[A]

That's a real company.

[B]

Is like a real company let you do that. Yeah, like, yes. American History X.

[A]

A real company let us do that.

[D]

And then called us and said that they were cool.

[H]

More.

[A]

We love these. Before we get to Omar, we were. Johnny boy and I were sitting. We were writing, you know, commercials for the. The only. The only other company that I. That I own and run Foundation, Daily Multivitamin. And it was pretty rough where we were going through a parody of the Matrix. And I was like, who's Morpheus? He's like, you are. I'm like, okay, well, I got a bald cap. He's like, do we want to go dark with it? I said, well, what am I going to do? Reject my own sponsorship?

[B]

Like, green light.

[D]

We do it.

[B]

I guess that's a good point.

[D]

We'll do it to us.

[A]

Who's going to. I'm going to boycott me. Okay. All right. Product placement means everything. Stephen, what are you doing? Yeah, we've been doing these profiles. Like, I don't know, they'll be coming. It could be hit pieces, New York Times, and what is the other one, Harper's or something? And they always want to ask, like, well, so what are you guys independent? We're like. Yes. So what's your. What's rumbling? We're completely independent and we're glad to be partnered with them and they just don't have a chip for it. We are actually cancel proof. All right. Omar, Ilan, Omar. You guys all saw this video last night. Now here's the thing. There are a lot of conspiracy theories out there. People saying that this was staged. People jump to that. I am going to tell you exactly what it is that we know and you can draw your own conclusions. If you want to know my opinion, it seems like this is somebody who obviously didn't like Ilhan Omar. I wouldn't jump right away to this is staged. I also understand why people think that some of the events look questionable, but also understand in the heat of the moment when you're in kind of a, you know, a pressure cooker, people react oddly. I can't draw conclusions. I can't tell you definitively. But I'll give you the facts that a lot of people are sort of withholding in the name of clickbait. We'll give you all the references as we do every single show. So town hall professional brother Marrier Ilhan Omar. She was sprayed with an unknown substance by a man who was not a fan at the event. Here you go. There were two primary angles and then it kind of bleed into one. So we decided to put them side by side here so you don't miss anything. Here's the incident in question.

[I]

A secretary, Christy Noem, must resign or face impeachment. I don't know.

[D]

Perfume.

[B]

He needs some milk.

[A]

No, we will.

[H]

No, no, no.

[I]

We will continue this.

[A]

We're not going to get away with. Now, I should be clear. It has not been confirmed. I want to let you know we can confirm what we can't. It's not been confirmed, but investigators feel pretty strongly that they have identified the in question subs. Open the door.

[D]

Come on.

[I]

Some people did something.

[C]

That is.

[A]

And people saying you're being just as tasteless as those at the assassination. Charlie, shut up. Shut up. Look, no, it's. This man could have. And he shouldn't have done that. Just to be clear, okay, this man could have killed her or harmed her, God forbid. And I truly mean that. Yeah, he decided, he walked and he. It's remarkably polite in the context of things like you must resign. Yeah, that's actually peeled off to the right and like, hey, I'm not a threat anymore. I pulled back you with whatever freighter with something and you know, we don't necessarily know what it is, it could be.

[D]

Hopefully nothing.

[A]

Hopefully nothing. Hopefully nothing damaging with something.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

Let's not compare the two, right? You guys get that there's a difference, right? By the way, tune in weekdays, 11am Eastern. That's the best way to stand. If you're watching this as a clip following the attack, Omar. Well, she was, you know, like you think that iconic Donald Trump fight, fight. She too, delivered an inspiring response. Representative OMAR Are you okay?

[I]

You know, I'm going to go figure if I am, but I feel okay. I feel that it is important for people, whether they are in elected office, to allow these people to intimidate us, to make us not fight for our constituents and for the country we love. And as I said, you know, I've survived war, and I'm started by who, intimidation and whatever these people think they can throw at me because I'm built that way.

[A]

Size zero. Yeah.

[D]

Built what way?

[A]

The office also released a statement. The congresswoman is okay. She continued with a town hall because she doesn't let bullies win. I'm reading it in her voice because why not? So she doesn't let bullies win except in the boudoir with her brother, namely. And I know we just can't let that one go. We can't let it go because it's a thing. Here's what we actually know, because it's real. Yeah. But here's what we actually know. And you guys will take your chats later and you can let us know if you think that this was staged. I'll get to the case as to why people may think it was staged, but I think that when you take all the information in totality, you go, okay, this seems pretty cut and dry and a lot of people out there, and this is a problem both on the left and the right. Misinformation on both sides. We really. We don't want to do that. And we encourage you to go check out the references. So the suspect in question has been identified. Anthony James Kazmierczyk, commonly referred to as Fat Gerard Butler is. It's gotta be biblical.

[B]

Yeah, dude, it's uncanny. Still, he looks more like Gerard Butler in the actual photo of the guy. The bad guy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess he does. But Gerard Butler, incapable of doing an American accent, just to be clear, but 55 years old, this guy. Twice divorced, two kids, unemployed on disability. Now, the reason that's relevant is because a lot of people brought up and it is relevant. Renee Goode, right. Didn't have Custody of her children, I believe. Two divorces. That doesn't mean that this person is guilty, and it certainly doesn't justify what they've done. No one is doing that here. But it is an indicator as to perhaps the stability or pattern of behavior. We don't know what the liquid was, though. Like I said, strongly suspected. This person was charged with third degree assault, held without bail, faces up to five years prison time. Whereas attempted murderers in the state of New York get to go free quite often. He does have a limited prior criminal history. Two DUI convictions, no violent crimes. You could argue that this one is definitely assault. But as far as what you think of as classically violent, I also want to say I do get that this can be pretty scary. Like whether it's someone who is throwing a milkshake. Well, sometimes those are replaced with concrete. Or it could be acid. Right. Ilhan Omar is familiar with that. That's something that Islamists do quite a bit. They'll throw acid in your face that you're disfigured forever. So I have no doubt that she was probably quite scared. The comparison, though, to the type of violence and vitriol at the right experiences, I just think. I just don't think it's a valid one. The neighbors said about this man that he was pretty heavily medicated for years because he had a spine injury. He was apparently diagnosed with Parkinson's. And this guy, again, surprisingly polite. And you must resign, Right?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Also asked his neighbor to watch his dog because he seemed to know that something would go down. So at least, you know, he cares about the dog. Didn't have the dog at the town hall. Like Renee Good in the car with the screaming and the disrupting, the stuffies. Yeah. He said, I'm going to this Omar thing. I might get arrested. I might get arrested.

[B]

Means that he's like, I don't know how violent this is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I'm gonna squirt some Diet Coke on her.

[A]

That's. Yes. That sounds to me like he wasn't planning on being any more violent than you thought. He didn't even curse. No, he didn't.

[B]

Which is the. That's a. It's an accomplishment.

[A]

He didn't even hit her in the face with the thing. You must resign. And then he was like, well, of course, never aim in the face. That's the rules.

[B]

And he's bad aim, I think, but. Right. He still had some left, by the way. If you look at the little syringe he has, he didn't even squirt it all out. What a. Yeah, failure.

[A]

He started. No, I think maybe. Sorry. He was like, I think I've made my point.

[B]

And I think it was the Parkinson's. Could be it was like kind of shaking when he got up.

[A]

Could be that could be why you thought it was Diet Cook. It was fizzy because he's shaking. Yeah.

[B]

Well, could be nerves shake. Throw a little Mentos and Diet Coke into somebody, boom. Parkinson's.

[A]

Could be a nerve shake or could be a Parkinson's shake. You comment below, do you believe it was a nerves shake or Parkinson's shake?

[B]

I think he was drinking a Dr. Parkinson's.

[A]

So was his motivation. And again, the references are available. Was it. Political outlets have at this point reported that his social media leaned right. The neighbors claimed that he leaned conservative, didn't like Omar. But that encompasses a lot of people. There are pictures circulating. We have not been able to confirm it at this point that his kids may be trans leftists. So if that's the case, I mean, that is definitely something that will drive a lot of men. I don't even wanna say mad, but just hopeless. I mean, you saw that with Elon Musk. You can be the wealthiest, most powerful person on earth and if your kids have been radicalized by institutions out there, you feel like it's a death that you never get to mourn. Yeah. And this is why I also cannot recommend enough that you homeschool your children, that you, you guard their hearts from what they consume. Because if that is true, doesn't justify what he did. But that is absolutely heartbreaking. The case that I'm hearing as to why this is staged again, I think it's paper thin. People saying, why didn't Omar immediately seek medical attention? She continued her speech after the attack. I mean, sure, I guess, but you know, if you're not hurt, if it's a substance that's on you at that point in time. I've done that too, where I've had people throw stuff on me sometimes. You don't think of it in the moment. People saying that she went toward the assailant, which does seem odd. It's atypical. But again, you don't necessarily know how you're reacting. I also noticed she only went toward him after security had been taking care of him. People are saying that she looked right up at him. If you look at the tape right before the attack, he could have been twitching, could have been again at Parkinson's shake.

[B]

He was a. He was a suspicious looking fella for sure. Yeah, I Gotta say, when he got up, I'm like, oh, no one stopped him at the door.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Like that's the guy. You let him walk up to the front row.

[A]

Well, that's also, to me, what is most. A couple of things that are most telling here that tells you that the left doesn't live in the same fear that the right does because you don't get that close to people on the right, especially not post Charlie Kirk. But the pat downs, the wanding, the security that we have to put people through at any live event, the fact that she is there with what appears to be medium level security and a guy who couldn't look more suspicious if he was drenched in hobo piss.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which might be in front row.

[B]

Yeah, Front row, right there.

[A]

Yeah, front row. Yeah.

[B]

I would be looking up at him too. I'd be like, what's right.

[A]

So I'm not convinced that this is staged and I'm certainly not going to make that claim as though it's a fact. And I see people, if it was.

[B]

Staged, it would be worse than that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I don't think it would be like, you know, bleeding or it would, but it would have been worse than a syringe with some liquid in it. They would have. Honestly, they gotta be smarter than that.

[A]

Right, Right. Yeah. And I've been, and I will say I have had this happen with me where people have said, oh, that's staged. When I've been, you know, punched in the face, when I've been assaulted very violently in public. So I know that people want to go to that. And this is not me saying, hey guys, both sides. I'm just saying let's be truthful. I'm just saying let's apply. I'm not saying we need to find common ground with the left or extend sympathy or empathy when that's not appropriate. I think in this case, we don't want representatives to be. We certainly don't want them to be assassinated, we certainly don't want them to be assaulted. Jailed. Yeah. Certainly brought up on charges for fraud, which we'll get to. Yeah. But I'm asking you to apply your filter consistently to the left and the right. Not saying that you need to find common ground based on a lie or present yourself as a moderate. So it's very clear the left doesn't live under. Yes.

[D]

Yeah. I just want to say like that I think it's a huge misstep too by those on the right right now. And there are plenty of prominent people on the right saying, oh, this Looks absolutely staged and fake. Now you give the left something to go after. Just say, oh, man, I really hope we shouldn't be doing any of that. By the way, she's still a piece of crap. Don't take your eyes off the ball, guys.

[A]

Right.

[D]

Don't take your eyes off the fraud and what's going on in the state of Minneapolis or in the state of Minnesota right now and around Minneapolis. Don't take your eye off the ball.

[A]

She's a piece of crap.

[D]

But that should. That stuff shouldn't happen.

[A]

Right.

[D]

Let's move on. Right now it's just going to devolve into. Well, they're denying that, just like they said Alex Peretti, whatever name, he was there to kill people.

[A]

Right.

[D]

It's the same thing.

[A]

Yeah. Just be clear, be consistent in your communication, and don't present yourself as a moderate if you're not. I'm not a moderate. The left has labeled me far right wing. Okay. I'm fine with it. It's pretty much basic bitch conservative. If you were to go throughout history, I'm certainly more nationalist than most conservatives have presented themselves in the past, but have always been that way. Fine. I'm right wing. I'm not a moderate. Let's get to Ilan Omer, though. This is always a good opportunity to highlight that she is a walking fraud where it's hard to even identify the human components. Left, it's pretty much just fraud. So since 2024, she's been under investigation by the DOJ and Congress for financial and overall, just campaign sort of spending irregularities.

[B]

Since 24.

[A]

Yeah. Under official. Yeah, official investigation.

[B]

That's under a Democratic doj.

[A]

Yes. That's.

[B]

I think that's very important to mention that date because they're saying it. They're saying that it's a witch hunt.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's a revenge hunt or whatever.

[A]

Okay. And this is not even. I'm not getting into all the fraud that she's overseen. Right. In her state, different fraud, personal fraud. Right. It's different fraud. Now, her assets reported to Congress have, of course, increased rapidly. Now, it could be completely legitimate or there's a reason that it seems suspicious. So in 2023, assets numbered anywhere from 40 to 250,000. One year later, 2024, 6 million to 30 million.

[B]

That's a big range.

[A]

Yeah. Honestly, 6 million to 30 million.

[B]

How much money do you have? Somewhere between 6 million.

[A]

Yeah. And the argument from the fact checkers. Well, that's actually her husband's. Because a venture capital management firm and A winery. You go. So one year, a winery, your investment has grown by 6,500 to 10,000%. That's the growth of the wine business, which this is something we can verify. It brings me to. Gerald knows wine. Gerald.

[B]

All right, That's a wine that tastes like corks.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's if you're wondering, it's a cork.

[A]

When you smell it. All right, so, Gerald, I'm going to ask you, I want to be really clear for people because you've worked in the wine industry for a long time. I have. So I want to ask you, is it typical for a winery to grow 6,500 to 10,000% in a year?

[D]

No.

[A]

Sorry, allow me to rephrase the question. I'll treat you like a chat GPT. I'll give you a different prompt.

[D]

Okay. Yeah.

[A]

Has there ever been a winery in the history of mankind that you know of that has increased by 6,000 to 10,000% in one fiscal year?

[D]

No. Never in the history of wine has that happened.

[B]

Okay, what about when Jesus turned water to wine?

[D]

He didn't sell it. He gave it away for free. And was a lot of wine, by the way, like 30 cases.

[A]

Yeah. Knew how to party. So 6,500 to 10,000% growth year over year is not only not typical, it's not only atypical. It's never happened in the history of the wine industry.

[D]

No.

[A]

Okay, so your guess is as good as mine. This has been. Gerald knows wine.

[D]

Gerald.

[A]

And believe it or not, we actually do have a reference to prove to you that 10,000% growth in a single fiscal year is not typical. Well, just to let you. So you guys can go check.

[B]

Must be a really good wine company.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Must be like the best wine company.

[A]

It is. Or there could be some similarities in the winery and, you know, the questions that sort of surround Omar's involvement in the Minnesota Somali welfare scandal.

[E]

Ah.

[A]

Or there could be some similarities in that. You know, maybe it's not exactly straightforward or she's at best being misleading in a way that compares to her marrying her brother. There's a certificate, but it happened. By the way, don't circulate this as though it's new. This always happens. We've been bringing this up for well over half a decade, and it has not been refuted to the degree that it needs to be. So, yeah, a 10,000% growth year over year, the welfare scandal, a lot of scandals, a lot of fraud that has taken place in her state. Not to mention she's effectively pledged loyalty to Somalia before the United States married her brother, which is both gross and a crime. But my question to you is, what do you think here? Do you think this is a maladjusted person who snapped, or do you think it's a staged scene from Omar and her team? And let me ask you, if you think it's staged, can you make the case as to why make the factual case? The same way we would make a case for anything else on this show. And if people believe it, you may have reason to believe it. But I also see a lot of folks out there misleading their audiences, just going, this is clearly staged. There's nothing clear about it. And you do need to substantiate that. The burden of proof is on people saying this is staged. That would be a pretty big, pretty elaborate conspiracy. So there needs to be more proof than she glanced. Right?

[D]

And somebody's gonna go to jail, most likely for this. So you're like, yeah, yeah, you'll just go to jail for it. I mean, I guess you could pay somebody off. That stuff happens.

[B]

It's Minnesota. Won't he just come back out on the streets right away?

[D]

Well, you know, not. No, he's white and, you know, he didn't rape anybody.

[B]

So I guess he's gonna stay in there.

[A]

Yes, that's a very good point.

[D]

I just think we do ourselves such a huge disservice. Like, stay focused. We're talking about PR stuff right now. When it comes to the deportations, we need more of them. We need more ICE agents in there. We need this process to continue. We just need to be better about the PR game and talking about these things. So make sure. And I hate to. I'm not even gonna say the name. Very large person on the right. Not being sure, not being cautious.

[A]

Go ahead. Do you need one second right here. This is right here. See, Ellen, this is just important to me because we're actually with foundation. We're thinking about releasing an all in one, like skin moisturizer care thing. You look like a ghost. Well, just think about this. We're talking about kind science. These people are socialists. Right? Ellen DeGeneres, I believe she left the country because capital is just awful. You don't need 50 products for your face. This is a perfect example. Like fragrances. You should be able to wash your face, put something on and be done. It's because they want to sell you more products. So they sell an entire lineup. Ellen DeGeneres, you talk about consumerism. What am I counting? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Plus what looks like ladies helper right there. That device. Really people need that? Because that seems like more crap that people don't need. You can comment below. We're talking about this where we actually have dermatologists and people. Because they'll sell you something that's all in one. And it's not like all in one. But what we really mean is you to need four more lotions to put on.

[D]

Right. This is really all evolves from you being pissed off at the world.

[A]

I found out for the last two years. Yeah. Someone's like, you should do it as you get older. I use an all in one thing. And then they're like, oh yeah. But no, but then you have to put on moisturizer. So I've been drying my skin out for two years because like that's a serum. I'm like, what's the difference?

[D]

Well, it's all in two.

[A]

And then I looked it up. There's no reason it can't all go in actually one thing. But they want to sell you three, four different kits. And then there's a whole industry where they hope that your subscriptions don't line up. So you double buy anyway.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And all that stuff wear out first. So you'll run out of one product.

[A]

Exactly right. You got to buy it. If you are an environmentalist, if you are a leftist and you sell a skin care line with more than two products or you sell a fragrance, you're a liar. These are completely unnecessary products that you are. You are exploiting the worst parts of the free enterprise system by selling fear, doubt and a product that nobody wants that they likely can't afford. That's it. I'll get off my high horse.

[B]

All those products just a little like an angry beaver.

[A]

Yes, exactly right.

[B]

It's just like Katy Perry who went to space.

[A]

Right?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Last year. And then this year was at Davos talking about the environment.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Like, shut the hell up.

[A]

Like, you didn't need to go. We've, I. We've literally sent chimps to space.

[B]

Just go back to putting cupcakes on your tits and shut up. Just do what you're good at. Stupid sexually assaulting American night title.

[A]

All right, good. I'm glad we got you.

[B]

And stupid flat but a douche.

[A]

Just think about. And yet another example of a white privileged woman. It's like, hey, why don't we give some of those black mathematicians a shot? Right? They were doing the work on the ground. Instead we have to send cupcake tits. That's her new nickname. That's her new nickname. We'll bring it up. It's been a while.

[D]

You know.

[A]

Bring up that one where Katy Perry knocks herself out by jumping into a fake cake. It's always funny.

[D]

Wait, what?

[B]

Love it.

[A]

It's been a few years ago. Oh, yeah, it's hilarious.

[B]

You showed me. It's great.

[A]

It's great because she's being sexy. She's going, I kissed the girl. And I like that. And she sees this big wedding cake, and so she's gonna jump in and smear. Like you said, smear the cake all over. But it's fake. And so the rebound of her face off of the plaster is, like, boom. And she cannot actually get up.

[C]

She's.

[A]

She's out on her feet.

[D]

Somebody please get that fast.

[A]

We'll have that Rumble premiere because only the best. And by the way, download the Rumble app. Follow me there. Don't be beholden to these social media algorithms. We fully expect some hit pieces out soon or less than we don't know. We've opened ourselves up to, like, talk with journalists and, like, no, this will be fair. We're like, no, it's not. All right.

[D]

Never fair.

[A]

Speaking of Minnesota, you guys probably followed this. You know, Cam Higby released some. Some really valuable content, right? Exposing how the organizers in Minnesota, they've been using Signal to track down and hunt ICE officers. Now, I should tell you, we've been in these Signal chats and lines of communication. It's not all signal. To be clear, our strategy has been to sort of lay low and see where it goes, how it transpires. Well, we can't really do that now because some of this information has been released. There are pros and cons to both, but Cam Higby, please go follow him. Show him some support. He definitely is putting himself in harm's way. Kash Patel, that announced that the FBI was actively investigating these types of signal checks.

[D]

What are you going to do?

[A]

Which means pretty much nothing, because when long ago, before people were paying attention, you can go and watch where we infiltrated Antifa in Utah. The FBI did nothing. Yeah, they absolutely did nothing.

[D]

The Signal's not going to give them any information, by the way. They'd have to infiltrate this like every other journalist has already. And they know about it.

[A]

Right. And so, of course, this is valid information. It's been confirmed. It's useful in particular because it presents a very clear and present danger to those ICE officers who are trying to do their work and go back home to their families. So, of course, the Guard Guardian called it a far right claim. That's what they called his work, a far right claim. Also, we have not confirmed that Ilhan Omar married her brother. The marriage certificate could you know. We don't know. Well, can you check up on it? I don't feel like it.

[D]

We'll get right on that.

[A]

But we have some new information that we want to bring to you that at the very least suggests the Guardian is full of crap. Our people on the ground have been long at work. It's time for Mud Club Undercover. And again, this is a part of what your support helps. Support. I should have worded that better. But your membership does support this. We have boots on the ground. We have our tentacles out everywhere. So you can consider joining up. Also sending your tips to lwctipsonmail.com it's encrypted. We will go to jail to protect our sources. Keep in mind that we received tips. The Nashville Manifesto, the bullet engravings with Charlie Kirk. I'm trying to remember what the other. There have been a few that have come through the tip line where our people have been able to track them down and do the legwork. So please do send some tips and know that your information is safe with us. Last night, our team, they recorded a signal call very similar to the ones that Cam has released. But now I think you guys are starting to get a better picture as to how organized, how coordinated these people are. In this signal call, the participants coordinate exactly how to trace and follow up with vehicles of ICE officers in real time. This is not just a ragtag crew of social media trolls.

[F]

They're driving very evasively. They just pulled through into a parking lot, did a loop through the parking lot, and then got back on Central going north. We're trying to get back on him, but we might lose him here.

[B]

Gotcha. I am going to relay this.

[F]

Bars in the back of the car as well. So this is definitely highly suspicious.

[G]

Yeah.

[A]

You say four occupants. One of them may be with a helmet of some sort.

[F]

Yeah, I got a better look at them a couple more times. There's definitely four, at least. Yeah, I think they're all helmeted, all masked.

[A]

Gotcha.

[B]

Okay, thank you.

[A]

Oh, I wonder why they could be masked. I wonder why they might want to conceal their identity when they're being hunted by radical domestic terrorists. And keep in mind, too, the organizers are actually pulling from a massive database of license plates. As I understand, they also have bots doing some of this work. It's hosted on Airtable. Here's a clip to Give some context. Yeah, massive, massive database. They have a handbook, they have best practices. They have a sort of a process through which they will go through confirmation. This is organized and it's something that is definitely a very real threat to ice. So when you see people like Swalwell and you see people like Mayor Fry saying, well, we need to get rid of masks, we need to identify these ICE agents, just understand that these are the people waiting in the wings, other people waiting in the wings. Single chat, some journalists. We found a few journalists there and I don't really know that you would consider this journalism. And then I'll give you some background and names on the journalists who we've identified. They have been effectively collaborating or attempting to collaborate with the organizers in this group. So one of these journalists comes from ProPublica and this is what they wrote. They wrote. Hi all. Is. Is Nebraska either New England or Nebraska? Yeah, I think it's Nebraska. Hi all. Any resident here? Sharing. On behalf of my CO workers at ProPublica, help investigative journalists report on an important story. We are Lisa Long and Maya Miller.

[D]

Lisa Song.

[A]

Lisa Song. Sorry. Lisa Song.

[B]

Song.

[A]

And what a song it is. Lisa Song and Maya Miller rob reporters with a national non profit news organization, ProPublica. We've been following reports of young children who were pepper sprayed or tear gassed in suburban Chicago and Minneapolis. And we've learned that other kids have faced similar situations over the past year. We're aiming to document cases in which children and teenagers have been harmed during interactions with federal agents such as ICE or local law enforcement. This includes being exposed to tear gas, pepper spray, flashbangs, rubber bullets and other less lethal weapons. We are focusing on cases involving children, anyone under 18 because because of the disproportionate health impacts they face. We appreciate any assistance you can provide by helping us identify cases and connecting us with people who have firsthand experiences to share our commitment to your privacy. Both of us take the responsibility of protecting our sources very seriously. What about protecting the identities of those doing the work? The work? Those in law enforcement also. We did look and we weren't able to find any examples of them collaborating on reaching those involved with or gathering information on the children harmed. For example, during the riots, the Summer of Love and thousands of casualties. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, but I haven't found it specifically only as it involves ICE agents or federal authorities. And as we've seen, many of those stories that you have heard of from the journalists publicly turned out to be lies. We are gathering these cases for the purpose of our reporting and will reach out if we wish to publish any part of your experience. We're happy to answer any questions you might have about our work and reporting process. So they're involved? They're in these signal chats? Yes, Gerald, I was going to say.

[D]

So it's actually the NE stands for Northeast. It's a part of the Minnesota Watchers group.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[D]

So it was specific to them.

[A]

Okay, so we can resume my.

[D]

Sorry.

[A]

So there you go. They have their. Their own little code center.

[E]

They're there.

[A]

Candy cane.

[D]

Oh, geez, don't go there.

[A]

I like a good pro. I like a good ProPublica. It makes everything shitty. So Lisa Song, she's an environment and climate change reporter.

[D]

It makes sense for her to do this then, right?

[A]

Nice. Let's. Let's look at some of her past work. The Trump administration is promoting its anti trans agenda globally at the United Nations. Another one from her. Tear gas is way more dangerous than police let on. Especially during the coronavirus pandemic. What? Especially during. Oh boy. Here's an excerpt. Chowdhury was on a part of the Vine Street Expressway that ran underground. Bruised, she scaled a fence to escape, but the tear gas found her later that evening. Did it find her? Did it find her? Was it a heat seeking tear gas missile?

[B]

Was it like one of those Disney pies where the steam of the pie follows you through your windowsill and pulls you up out of your bed?

[A]

Or was she acting lawlessly all day until one officer had enough and said, you know what? You're going to get this tear gas. The tear gas found her later that evening inside her own house as police unleashed it on protesters in her predominantly black neighborhood in West Philadelphia.

[B]

Born and raised.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

Under tear gas is where I spent.

[A]

Most of my days crying and chewing out max. Tear gassing by the pool.

[B]

And I saw one guy gets shot like a fool.

[A]

Maya Miller. Maya Miller. Here's some articles from her. I have lost everything. The toll of cities, homeless sweeps. Yeah, I thought I have lost everything. Would be the business owners during the riots and the summers of love or the COVID lockdowns. No. Oh, just sympathy for the lawless people out there. Just the lawless criminals. These people will work with them behind the scenes, collaborate with them behind the scenes, and then do their bidding to you and present themselves as objective. And how many times have we seen leaks where identities and personal information has been. And it's always a mistake. Keep in mind, it's almost always a mistake that Only goes one way. Yeah, so I do want to be really clear. Lisa Song, Maya Miller, I am inviting both of you to come on this show and please do explain to me and justify your journalistic decisions and how this functions with journalistic integrity and how you are being unbiased and the methods of your sourcing. Because the way it looks right now is that you are involved with a domestic radical group of people who have caused serious harm, are looking to inflict more harm on those enforcing the law as part of a lawfully elected administration with a mandate. So please, Lisa, Maya, you are welcome to come on the show. As always, we will be respectful, but this is disconcerting. And what we're not seeing is information from these journalists encouraging people to behave civilly and to, of course, not reveal any identities. As a matter of fact, they know that that's the case because that's what this signal chat is. And they're taking part anyway.

[B]

It almost seemed like they're saying, hey, if you get your kid pepper sprayed, we'll make you famous.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yes, exactly. Make sure you take your child to the next protest in five degree weather.

[B]

You could even start a GoFundMe.

[A]

Right. And we are gonna be tracking down other identities to see if there are other journalists in there, potentially other representatives in there. Because it's one thing to see the organizational structure. We've known this for a while. We know that it's not decentralized. We know that the left has a pretty coordinated network of people. It's another to unmask the journalists, the representatives, those who really should be significantly far away from this. There's no way to justify this. Certainly if you're a representative and there really is no way to make the case that you're an unbiased journalist, if you are in this signal chat where you see these kinds of sometimes crimes being committed and certainly aggressive actions and certainly actions that put people at risk. That is no longer journalism. It is activism. And it's fine if you tell everyone that you are no journalist, but you are an activist. This is why people question everything. This is why fake news proliferates. People don't trust institutions because this. And you put a nice enough name on it. ProPublica. Wow, it sounds very official. Oh, it's a non profit. Then these people must be doing it out of the goodness of their own hearts. No, this has been going on for a long time. Journalism is corrupt. Legacy media is done. That's a good thing. But we need to be vigilant and this is scary. Stuff and we're going to be doing some more digging. But I do want you to remember something. It's paramount. What's most important signal group made this really clear as they reminded their brave freedom fighters the biggest enemy in 2026. January 28, it's still Covid they wrote please wear a KN95 or N95 mask when you are out. Covid can spread outdoors. There's no comma there, so it's hard for me to read. This will just horrible punctuation. This will also protect you from the flu. Cover your face to keep you warm and help fight surveillance culture and keep our communities safer and more accessible. Please use the free community test site. Let's fight the surveillance culture by doxxing people and giving out personal information by surveilling. Yeah. What? Yeah, absolutely right. So again, please do. We're going to be tracking this down. We're going to continue with this show Mug Club Undercover. Some of also of course, Cam Higby, Nick Shorter who was on the show yesterday. There are a lot of people doing a lot of good work out there and we just want to do our best to aggregate and to help where we can. Lwctipsonmail.com hey, also, anyone out there who has some hot tips on H1BS, might I suggest looking into Texas. Send us whatever you got. If you're working at one of these companies, we will protect your anonymity with our lives and we're very grateful and we'll continue to do this work. This has been Mudclub Undercover, All right? And right now it could be anything.

[D]

But it's Cory Booker.

[A]

Oh, no. Let's see how long before he starts sounding gay. And I mean that genuinely. Excuse me. The administration is putting people back on deportation and sending to that madness. Bottom line, right now, don't go back to Venezuela. It's pretty dangerous on the scene right now. Cory Booker, senator from New Jersey making that point and seems that the Secretary of state is agreeing. Let's take another very, very short break. Okay.

[D]

They're going to a break.

[A]

I was like, well, just let it respond.

[D]

He just used this whole time. Anytime Cory Booker goes, chose to speak like, I was just like, oh, good, he's gonna do like I am Spartacus again and look like an idiot. Just please never let him leave office ever. Like, just keep him there.

[A]

Yeah, he's a. He's a bizarre fellow. He looks like something that guy would pull out in River Monsters. Yeah.

[B]

Gerald wants. Gerald wants Cory Booker.

[A]

2028.

[D]

No, no, I don't want him to be present, to stay exactly where he is so that we can continue to make fun of him and show that they're unserious about solving any problems at all in life.

[A]

Yeah, no, that's fun. Also, he has a wonderful beard, and.

[D]

I don't care about New Jersey that much.

[B]

So my favorite thing about that Mud club undercover story was all these. All these activists, they get to cosplay as, like, law enforcement or, like, military.

[A]

Operators while condemning it.

[B]

That's so cute.

[A]

I know. It's so cute.

[B]

They get to cosplay. They go like, hey, it's a white van. That was a cuss on the radio.

[A]

Oh, boy. Oh, no. We're supposed to use call signs. Well, I only knew the Air Force lingo. Shut up, mom. I'm cosplaying.

[B]

They got bars in the window.

[A]

Real suspicious.

[B]

Four occupants.

[A]

Yeah, ten. Four. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the defrost Roger Dodger over a bunch of dorks.

[B]

I had an old comedian friend, he posted on his stories, got. He's got his little military helmet and his rifle, and he's like, I'm about that. I'll fight ice and stuff. Like, okay, good.

[A]

Good luck.

[B]

If any of them see this, they're.

[E]

Gonna laugh at you.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

And if you show up with.

[B]

No one's scared of you.

[A]

And it's so clear that it's a photo op. Because they're not showing up with their. Their rifle. No, they are not. They're taking a picture on Instagram, like, okay, and now I'm gonna go out in my average civilian gear with none of this.

[D]

And you shouldn't.

[B]

You shouldn't be showing up like that.

[D]

We should wear masks, but they shouldn't.

[A]

Yes, exactly. Right. So we wore masks all summer long under the summer of love. You know, it was still. It was Covid. But it was fine at that point. We didn't have to stop the spread, but they shouldn't be allowed to when their families are at risk and they're being dragged by cars. And that brings us to what's happening in Minnesota. We talked about this yesterday. I do think the communication has not been the best from this administration. The Democrats seem to smell blood in the water. But I will say this. I also understand sending in Tom Homan because he's the best of the best, and he certainly. If you were to pick or if you were to go down a list of who is most qualified to deal with a scenario that now has national attention, can anyone make the case for someone better than Tom Homan. So please don't mistake my perspective on the way the Bavino sort of, I guess, demoting or new placement. Please don't confuse my perspective on the communication as anything other than praise for Tom Holman. I think more. Tom Holman is always a good thing, always better. But two things can be true. There hasn't been great communication. Yesterday, Tom Holman, of course, arrived in Minnesota and he promptly met with Governor Walz, who, you know, they always do this. They go, well, I like this guy, but I don't like that guy. Until Tom Holman, of course, does something he doesn't like, and then he'll try and denigrate Tom Holman's resume.

[H]

Well, Tom Holman's a professional, which is a lot more than Bavino and Kristi Noem. But look, I think the thing we said is we're very clear about this, that we need these folks out of Minnesota. And. And we need a. We need justice for Renee Goode and for Alex. And those were. Those were things that we came with. I think the thing that I'm most concerned about is the tone was different. There was a tone shift. I wish it was because of the horrific, you know, shooting, that somebody saw some morality, but I think it's probably the press.

[B]

But with that being so you think you're not sure?

[H]

I'm not interested in a more efficient Metro surge. I'm ready for them to get out of here.

[A]

Okay, great. So then what are you going to do if they get out? What are you gonna do? How are you going to get rid of illegal aliens? What are you going to do with those who are currently in your custody? Like prisons, jails? Oh, the answer is nothing. That's why I think there should be more of a search. And these people need to be arrested. That is my perspective. I've been very clear for quite a long time. So this is where we are now. Like I said, Democrats smell blood in the water. That's never a good thing. Of course, Walz went on to not accept any responsibility for the situation at hand, but you knew that was going to happen.

[H]

That's progress. But they started this fire, so we're not giving anybody credit for putting it out.

[A]

But right now, we need a return.

[H]

To normalcy by these ICE agents out of here. And you talked about this in all those meetings with the White House and with Tom Holman and his team. Nobody asked about Alex or his family. So I appreciate you bringing that up. This family going through the horror of losing their son and then also to see him slandered like that.

[C]

It's just I'm slandering, slandered by the top officials.

[A]

And this is slandered. This is one of those things. You know, I didn't see that. You know, they're the ones who've started it. Certainly not us. Okay, this is. Remember that segment we did yesterday? Just back it up and provide more context. Okay. Let's not start with ICE going into Minneapolis. Okay. Why is ICE in Minneapolis? Oh, that's right. Rampant immigration fraud. Also currently incarcerated illegal alien prisoners and the refusal to hand them over to federal authorities. I mean, it's everything wrong with the left. It's not only protecting criminals while criminalizing American citizens. It also is a waste of taxpayer funding to be incarcerated. These people to be feeding them, to be housing them. There is no. Can anyone make the case as to why an illegal alien. And I've been asking this for years, they commit a crime, they go through the process. Oh, wait, you're not even supposed to be here. Can anyone make the case as to why any other action should take place at that moment in time other than deportation immediately? I can't think of any other action. You're out. Also really funny. Walz decided to go back in time and he said that actually today, though I know his debate didn't go that well with Vance, but today he would beat this out of Vance if he could.

[G]

I do see this as servant leadership and I don't see it as a sense of power. He was, he was good at that. And I mean, it was. He's smooth. I never claimed to do that, but I'm pretty effective. But I'll take the criticism.

[A]

I'm for bipartisanship. Here's the problem. I'm for bipartisanship out of him.

[G]

Now, if I could, and I would call that out, I mean, that's just different.

[A]

Oh, yeah, he would beat the crap out of vance. Now just 18 months later, he nailed it. The jerk star called. They're running out of you.

[D]

What a fake tough guy.

[A]

Come on. I know. And here's the thing. He flat out admitted that what we've been saying is true. The jails, the prisons are not cooperating with the Trump administration. That, that was the first ask. But he flat out, he's not going to do anything about it. He's not going to change.

[G]

Immigration issues are civil. And so a lot of times these counties are not going to hold them extra time. A lot of the things they come to me is they want us to do their job. I'm not going to do your job.

[D]

And the one thing you've seen in.

[G]

This is you have to have trust in the community. If we were out there acting like they act, we would never have any cooperation with our citizens of getting things done.

[A]

Maybe you wouldn't have $9 billion in daycare.

[C]

We don't.

[G]

They have their own sovereignty. If there's a state law passed, doesn't.

[H]

Allow that to happen.

[G]

That conversation. But that's not how it works. This is local democracy. The same way I don't tell these conservative cows what? That they can't cooperate.

[C]

They can.

[A]

Let me laser in here. Do you have any violent criminals who are illegal aliens in your prisons or jails? Yes, you do. And how is it democracy to not release them to the federal authorities who have the granted constitutional authority to deport them? If you have one, you're handing them over right now. Maybe you have hundreds, maybe you have thousands. You're handing them over. Right? There's no argument from democracy. No one voted to keep illegal aliens who've committed subsequent crimes in your prisons. And not that those are the only people we should deport, by the way. Anyone here illegally. Right. 100% should be deported. But that's the starting point. And I wanna be clear. I'm not saying those are the only people who should be deported. I am trying to point out to you that this is not about dreamers. This is not about someone who came here, started a business and filed the wrong paperwork. The left will not allow the federal authorities to deport currently incarcerated violent felons who are also illegal aliens. Please tell me you get that that crystallizes us. That puts a finer point on it then Mayor Fry. Fry posted this following a meeting with Homan. He said, I reiterated that my main ask is for Operation Metro Surge to end as quickly as possible. Minneapolis does not and will not enforce federal immigration laws.

[D]

Hear that?

[A]

That's the sound of the jail closing on you. Do it. Why are we, like, why are we having a discussion here? We will not enforce federal immigration. Okay, okay. We'll allow the feds to. We will not allow them to. Ah, that's exactly right. So that's jail.

[D]

That's what he is saying. That's what the governor is saying is like, well, they can cooperate, but they choose not to do that.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

We don't want to be in your communities. You don't need to do our job for us. You just need to make a phone call. That's not doing our job for us. You already have this person in custody You've done your job, Let us do ours. No, you can't do that. Okay, well, the only way to get them out, then I guess we gotta go out in the community and kind of targeted, have raids on violent criminals that we need to get. I can't do that either. Guys go out and make it hard for them to do that. Okay, well then will you let us just go to the jail? No. Do you see that? Yeah, they don't want either one.

[A]

Let me ask you this. Can you point me to any other example of a serious federal crime being committed where a locality, a municipality can not only refuse to enforce it, but forbid anyone from enforcing it, like murder, theft, arson, terrorism? Any other example of a serious crime where if a federal agency came in and said, okay, this is our investigation, we're going to take this person into custody, that a state or county would be justified in blocking them. Can you think of any? What's the difference? Votes? Yeah. Trump responded to Fry this morning. Surprisingly. Mayor Jacob Fry just stated that Minneapolis does not and will not enforce federal immigration laws. Wow. This is after having had a very good conversation with him. Could somebody in his inner sanctum please explain that this statement is a very serious violation of the law and that he is playing with fire? Is he playing with fire though? Jail. Jail. Start with the mayor right now, then go to the governor. Now we have JB Pritzker. He looks like a pork rind. The governor sounds like it, too. Of Illinois. He wrote, sending Tom home on the Minnesota is like pouring gasoline on a fire. The chaos is the point. Point. Let's stop sending Trump officials in and to start sending Trump agents home. Ah, no.

[D]

I. I kind of want gas on the fire, too.

[A]

No, you don't get to. It's really simple. You ever watch a cop movie or detective movie where it happens is they're roping it off and then the chalk line, like, by God, I want you to get this done before this place is swarming with feds. And they should be like, it's my scene now. No, no, this is my scene. Like, you go drink your coffee and eat your donuts and your paddy wagon, you piece of shit. Like, damn Feds. You understand? Because if the feds come in, it's now under the federal purview. We want to send the feds home. No.

[H]

No.

[A]

They represent the elected government nationally. It is a national issue for illegal aliens to be in our cities siphoning tax dollars and committing crimes you don't get to.

[B]

Siphoning tax dollars. Good reference to that. Gasoline on fire thing. By the way, Tim Walls was saying earlier, he said they don't have any sovereignty to do that. Like, you mean the federal law enforcement from the United States?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is Minnesota not one of the States? United.

[A]

All right. Also they don't have any sovereignty. Does that mean that you believe in delineation of some kind, departments, borders? How can one be sovereign? Sovereign from what? And how would you separate them from that which they are sovereign? Oh, votes. Now, I will say that the reason they seem so emboldened, and I am, we try and call balls and strikes. I would flat out say that I think the Trump administration has not been very effective in communicating. And the striking of a softer tone and flat out misstatements doesn't help. Here is the President discussing the incidents in Minnesota.

[B]

I'm curious what you thought when you.

[A]

First saw that video.

[C]

Well, I think the whole thing is terrible. I don't like the fact that he was carrying a gun that was fully loaded and he had two magazines with him. And it's pretty unusual, but it doesn't matter at all. Nobody knows when they saw the gun, how they saw the gun, everything else. The bottom line, it was terrible. Both of them were terrible. The other was terrible too. And I'm not sure about his parents, but I know her parents were big Trump fans. Makes me feel bad anyway. But I mean, I guess you could say even worse. They were tremendous Trump people. Trump fans. And you know, the daughter was, she was, I don't know if you could say radicalized maybe. Radicalized, maybe not. I don't know. But I hate to see it. I hate to see that.

[A]

Okay. And by the way, if you are not, I just realized we were going over time. Click that button right now to join Rumble Premium. Again, nothing happens without your support, including Mug Club undercover. You get 100% more show. You get everything ad free or try for $9 a month. You don't get this wonderful hand etched mug, but you do get the thousands percent more content and everything ad free. And it keeps the lights on. Here is President Trump talking about the replacing of Greg Bevino. And again, some misstatements that echo what Cash Patel was saying. It's just not good. I will tell you, there's a silver lining. And it comes down to more Tom Homan. These guys should all start following Tom Homan's lead. But here's the President. The message is out that Tom Homan is in.

[B]

Commander Bovino is supposedly leaving Minneapolis along.

[A]

With some CBP agencies. Is this a pullback?

[C]

I don't think it's a pullback. It's a little bit of a change. Everybody in this room that has a business, you know, you make little changes. You know, Bavino is very good, but he's a pretty out there kind of a guy. And in some cases that's good. Maybe it wasn't good here. But you have to understand, when I watch some of the people that I've been watching over the last few weeks, these are paid insurrectionists, these are paid agitators. These people aren't normal, like, oh gee, that, you know, they're incensed about anything. How do you get incensed when you go into a state and you're taking criminals out, you're taking monsters out.

[A]

Do you agree with the assessment from.

[I]

Some of your own officials that Alex.

[A]

Freddy is a domestic terrorist or an assassin?

[C]

Well, I haven't heard that, but certainly he shouldn't have been carrying a gun.

[A]

But all of hey, look, bottom every right to carry a gun. That's not the right line of. Not the right line of arg.

[E]

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