How Trump Buried Leftwing Media & Conspiracy Talk

Summary

Podcast Summary: Louder with Crowder
Episode: How Trump Buried Leftwing Media & Conspiracy Talk
Release Date: December 11, 2024

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Introduction

In this episode of Louder with Crowder, host Steven Crowder delves into the significant decline of left-wing media post-2020 elections, explores the resurgence of certain conspiracy theories as credible truths, and critiques the political correctness sweeping through sports, particularly focusing on WNBA star Caitlin Clark. The discussion is enriched with notable insights, statistical analyses, and engaging banter among Crowder and his co-hosts, Gerald and Josh Fierstein.

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Collapse of Left-Wing Media

Steven Crowder opens the conversation by highlighting the dramatic fall in viewership ratings for major left-wing media outlets since October 2020. He states:

"MSNBC is down 22%. Their prime time numbers just since October, Fox is even down 16%, which is up, you know." ([05:20])

This surprising statistic underscores Crowder's argument that left-wing media is no longer resonating with audiences, partially attributing this decline to the collusion between big government and big tech, which he believes has stifled genuine discourse.

Gerald adds:

"Fox. You're not supposed to enjoy it." ([05:23])

Emphasizing that despite a slight uptick in Fox News' ratings, the overall landscape remains bleak for left-leaning networks.

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Alex Jones and Infowars

Crowder transitions to discuss the legal battles surrounding Alex Jones and his platform, Infowars. He references a recent attempt by The Onion to acquire Infowars, which was blocked by a judge:

"A judge blocked the Onion from buying Alex Jones Infowars website... He ruled that a November bankruptcy auction did not result in the best possible bids." ([11:35])

Gerald humorously comments on Jones' relentless activism:

"I'm sorry, did that walking pair of MC Hammer pants just say that Donald Trump never talked about immigration and deporting people?" ([08:33])

Crowder reflects on Jones' continued defiance despite legal setbacks, reinforcing the narrative of persistent conspiracy theorists.

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Caitlin Clark and WNBA Politics

A significant portion of the episode critiques Caitlin Clark, a prominent WNBA player, for navigating the pressures of political correctness. Crowder mocks her acknowledgment of privilege, suggesting it stems from fear of backlash:

"She's bending the knee because she's afraid of the marauding. Angry black lesbians is my theory..." ([03:35])

Gerald counters, adding depth to the conversation:

"Caitlin Clark, you've done a great job of bringing it around a little bit...".

The discussion extends to how media pressures force athletes to conform to progressive narratives, often at the expense of their authenticity and performance.

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Top Five Conspiracy Theories That Turned Out to Be True

Steven Crowder presents his list of conspiracy theories that were initially dismissed but later validated, reshaping public perception and government trust.

1. Tuskegee Syphilis Study and Guatemalan STD Experiments
   Crowder reveals the dark history of the U.S. government's unethical medical experiments:

   "The United States government conducted experiments on Guatemalans by knowingly allowing 5,000 Guatemalans to contract STDs and withholding treatment. They did this in 1946." ([60:25])

   He draws parallels to the infamous Tuskegee Syphilis Study, emphasizing systemic abuses of power and the resulting deep-seated mistrust in governmental institutions.

2. Government Spending Fraud
   Highlighting the opaque nature of federal budgeting, Crowder criticizes the massive unaccounted funds:

   "The Government Accountability Office report... they lost the money. Sorry about that." ([56:22])

   He argues that billions are untracked annually, suggesting rampant corruption and inefficiency within government financial management.

3. COVID-19 Lab Leak Theory
   Addressing the origins of COVID-19, Crowder discusses the eventual confirmation of a lab leak:

   "The House subcommittee just this month confirmed it came from a lab." ([42:20])

   He connects this revelation to earlier dismissals and censorship of alternative viewpoints, fostering a narrative of deceit by authorities.

4. Gulf of Tonkin Incident as a False Flag
   Crowder revisits the Vietnam War era, asserting the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a government-orchestrated false flag to justify military escalation:

   "The United States government claim was untrue as far as the attack. So the conspiracy was a false flag." ([42:20])

   This historical example is used to illustrate the lengths to which governments will go to manipulate public opinion and policy.

5. Epstein Island and Media Complicity
   Crowder critiques the media's handling of Jeffrey Epstein's operations, suggesting a cover-up of widespread sexual trafficking:

   "They wanted to buy Alex Jones Infowars... blocked it... managing to bury it while other sex trafficking continued." ([44:30])

   He emphasizes the complicity of mainstream media in obscuring critical issues, thereby failing to hold powerful individuals accountable.

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Distrust in Government and Media Institutions

Throughout the episode, Crowder reinforces his skepticism towards governmental and media institutions, advocating for a need to question and verify information independently. He challenges listeners to maintain a healthy skepticism, especially in light of historical and recent revelations of institutional misconduct.

Gerald echoes this sentiment, urging for a balance between truth and compassion:

"You need the truth in love. In all of these situations..." ([25:30])

This philosophical stance underscores the podcast's overarching theme of combating misinformation and promoting accountability.

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Conclusion

In How Trump Buried Leftwing Media & Conspiracy Talk, Steven Crowder provides a critical examination of the decline in left-wing media effectiveness, the vindication of certain conspiracy theories, and the pervasive influence of political correctness in sports. By intertwining historical examples with contemporary issues, Crowder calls for increased skepticism towards established institutions and emphasizes the importance of seeking truth amidst a landscape riddled with misinformation.

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Notable Quotes:

• Steven Crowder ([05:20]): "MSNBC is down 22%. Their prime time numbers just since October, Fox is even down 16%, which is up, you know."

• Gerald ([05:23]): "Fox. You're not supposed to enjoy it."

• Steven Crowder ([11:35]): "A judge blocked the Onion from buying Alex Jones Infowars website... He ruled that a November bankruptcy auction did not result in the best possible bids."

• Steven Crowder ([60:25]): "The United States government conducted experiments on Guatemalans by knowingly allowing 5,000 Guatemalans to contract STDs and withholding treatment."

• Steven Crowder ([42:20]): "The House subcommittee just this month confirmed it came from a lab."

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This summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights from the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for those who have not listened to the podcast.

Transcript

[Josh Fierstein]

Now I'm glad you called. This is nice.

[Gerald]

Yeah, I am, too. I really miss this.

[Josh Fierstein]

Hey, dad, Remember when scored all those touchdowns in the state championship game?

[Gerald]

Yeah. I love it, man. I was really proud of you then. Love you, son.

[Steven Crowder]

Love you, too.

[Josh Fierstein]

But that's not how the reunion really went down. You see, Timmy never played in that state championship. He never even made the team. You see, his parents suffered from crippling debt and skyrocketing inflation, and they were never able to buy that nice new house on the east side. Their debt led to marital stress, culminating in a messy divorce, leaving Timmy to raise himself while mom was working three jobs. Let's see how the reunion actually went down. Give me your phone and your wallet, old man.

[Gerald]

I don't have anything on me. Now hurry up. I. Timmy, is that you?

[Steven Crowder]

Dad. Tim.

[Gerald]

I've missed you so much. It's been 15 years.

[Josh Fierstein]

I've missed you, too. Now give me your money.

[Steven Crowder]

Hurt my son.

[Josh Fierstein]

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[Gerald]

Ah, that.

[Steven Crowder]

That's way hotter. Hot, hot, hot, hot. That was a solid 20 degrees hotter. Worked. I had to stop with the hot beverages. Glad to be with you. We have a lot to get to this morning. If it sounds like I'm moving quickly, it's because we have Alex Jones on the show today. So we have him on the show, and a good lead into that is, you know, people now are saying, hey, conspiracy theories are really just truths. Add time. So we're gonna go through the top five conspiracy theories that have turned into reality. I have to adjust my headphones. They're a little bit low. I don't know why. So top five, in my opinion, and I would love for you to comment below, which conspiracy theory turned out to be true that had the biggest impact on you? And by that, I mean, did you start being more mistrustful of government? Did you start giving more credence to, quote, unquote, conspiracy theories? And believe me, I'm not saying that because some conspiracies have proven to be true that it means the earth is flat and we didn't land on the moon. That's not what I'm saying. And that's the sound of the comments section going nuts because of five brigaders. Can I talk about that? We are also going to talk about Caitlin Clark, the basketball player. Now she's trying to go woke. She's bending the knee because she's afraid of the marauding. Angry black lesbians is my theory, a lot of them. And right now it's just a conspiracy theory. But I bet you in five years it'll prove to be true. She's like, yeah, I didn't want to get my ass beat more.

[Josh Fierstein]

Or she got a new agent.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, that. And we have some news to get to too. Just a morning news roundup this morning we are going to announce at the end of the show the brand new mug. Those who were Mug Club now Rumble Premium. We now have a co promotion mug between Rumble Premium and Mug Club. So, you know, the OG mug is gone, but we have a new one for you. So I think I got it all. Captain Morgan, CEO. How are you?

[Gerald]

I'm doing well. How are you?

[Steven Crowder]

I'm fine. Yeah, this virus is going around the.

[Gerald]

Office and it just kind of lingers, too.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm telling you, I think the clear has like, I don't have any symptoms aside from I have a fever, but my nose is clear, but I just have a fever at night.

[Gerald]

I've done much better than my wife, but I use the clear all the time, so.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, that's because you keep checking her temperature. Well, when you hear this, she's hot. I like it. It's Josh Fierstein. December 21st, Bricktown Comedy Club, One of my favorite comedy clubs in the country. How are you, sir?

[Josh Fierstein]

I'm good, I'm good. I'd like to say a shout out real quick. My dad is his birthday today. Happy birthday, dad.

[Gerald]

Oh, nice.

[Josh Fierstein]

Somewhere in his 60s.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay. Well, I'm glad you did your research.

[Gerald]

Yeah. You care?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Josh Fierstein]

Yeah. I love you.

[Steven Crowder]

You're a good son.

[Josh Fierstein]

Thank you.

[Steven Crowder]

Put a number on there.

[Josh Fierstein]

I'd like to hear it from him someday.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, that's not going to happen. Right, Mr. Chapin? A lot going on in the news and we can't hit all of it. You can comment. You think Jay Z did it now, we'll talk about that tomorrow because we're chasing down some leads there. And by that I mean, yes. Now, you know, let's just make sure we hit all the stories that we need to. It's time for a morning news roundup. Didn't know which way we wanted to go with it.

[Gerald]

It seemed too corporate. Yeah, we had to mess with it. A little bit, yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

That's when we had a consultant come in, was working for News Corps. He's like, you gotta do it this way. Okay, I get it. You're just looking out for the folks. Now. First story, the left wing media has completely collapsed since the election. Ratings are awful. And I mean the kind of awful where if they were not working hand in hand with big government and big tech, they would no longer exist. So MSNBC is down 22%. Their prime time numbers just since October, Fox is even down 16%, which is up, you know. Oh, sorry. Up 16%. So I'm sorry, admonish me.

[Gerald]

Admonish.

[Steven Crowder]

I meant to correct that because I had MSNBC, CNN down 13%.

[Gerald]

Fox, admonish.

[Steven Crowder]

Fox.

[Gerald]

You're not supposed to enjoy it.

[Josh Fierstein]

Yes. I don't know what happened.

[Steven Crowder]

It's almost as much as I enjoy you taking my temperature. Which one's oral? So from the mouth, Ralph. 16%. Fox News is up. And these are just primetime numbers. If you look at the overall numbers, they are absolutely abysmal. Less than you watching right now because they measure it through a different system. Cnn, by the way, was so bad last week that it finished behind the Food Network. Their prime time viewership was 360, something, thousand viewers. So to give you an idea, that number was worse than. Yeah, the Food Network. Also the History Channel, HGTV, and Hallmark Mysteries.

[Gerald]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hallmark Mysteries? Yeah, they only did, like the cheesy Christmas movies.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't know. But either way, Melissa Joan Hart is getting a royalty check.

[Gerald]

Oh, my gosh, that's true.

[Steven Crowder]

And History Channel, this is the place that, by the way, did a whole documentary on the veracity of mermaid claims.

[Josh Fierstein]

And like 70 seasons of ancient aliens.

[Gerald]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

By the way, I don't know if you know this, they're still hunting Hitler. So. And this is, you know, this is one of those things that we've told you this. When 2020 happened, that election, we watched it with you. More of you signed up for Muckle, more of you tuned in because you were galvanized. Right. That's the big difference between the right and the left. The left, they're frontrunners. If they don't see themselves as the big dog, they just. They deflate like a bully. They're a bully. Their bullying didn't work. And so now they've gone back into their cave. They're scared they may regroup. But I don't know if they recover from this. And I also don't know what CNN expects when they're creating content like this.

[Alex Jones]

I might be deported because I'm a naturalized citizen. And Stephen Miller, who is Donald Trump's deputy chief of staff, has said that they're going to embark on a denaturalization program. So I, I could be deported, my citizenship could be taken away and my children could be deported because they have birthright citizenship. So this is not what the country voted for. Let's be very clear. Americans voted for Trump because of groceries, because of lowering costs. He has not talked about that one bit. What this country did not vote for is to deport the 11 million undocumented immigrants who do critical work for our economy, who have injected $7 trillion into our economy. And what Americans want is a solution to immigration.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm sorry, did that walking pair of MC Hammer pants just say that Donald Trump never talked about immigration and deporting people?

[Gerald]

Wrong. I'm pretty sure that was a main tenant.

[Steven Crowder]

It was an issue that he's been talking about since before he ran in 2016 and you called him racist. And now he has overwhelming public support, including from Hispanic Americans to deport people. And by the way, there's a huge difference between birthright citizenship, where people go, oh, touchdown, baby. Ah, isn't that great? Now I have an anchor baby. And going through the naturalization process where many of those people know more about the United States than people born here in this country. I know quite a few Cuban Americans who came in, they are more proud to be American and they know more about civics than people here in this country. So they try and expand this threat to something that's not real. I don't think anyone's buying what they're selling. It's not just that they're liberal, it's that they're dishonest. And what do you think? Even a liberal tunes in and thinks they go, okay, well, I agree with you. But wait, you just said Donald Trump didn't talk about deporting people. You were complaining. You told us we should all be afraid before the election because he was racist. Going to deport. Even people who agree with CNN can't watch them anymore. Here's another story. The Daily Wire actually maybe, maybe up for sale, maybe not. Was reported that Fox Corp. Was looking at acquiring some conservative or right leaning podcasts like all in Megyn Kelly, the Daily Wire. I believe there was a statement that said, you know, Daily Wire is probably not up for sale, but it would be a billion to buy it. So it said we're not closed off to an offer. Jeremy Boring there CEO said it's easy to imagine a strategic partnership with Fox or someone like Fox that could be mutually beneficial. I think that we compliment Fox and don't compete with Fox. Who knows? I know Brett Cooper just left there. So there are a lot of shakeups happening right now in media. Another big one. We'll have him on the show later. Alex Jones just had a big win yesterday and he's still been broadcasting. So I think a lot of people don't understand how bankruptcy works. Yeah, exactly. They just think it means, oh, everything shut down immediately. Going through a process. This is obviously this was a political witch hunt. Be interesting. I don't know if this could qualify for some kind of a pardon, but it would be fun.

[Gerald]

I don't think there's a bankruptcy pardon.

[Steven Crowder]

But it's pretty funny. I know. You know, step in and blackmail.

[Gerald]

We're gonna give him a billion dollars.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, exactly.

[Gerald]

Just reverse it.

[Steven Crowder]

So there was a judge who blocked the Onion. Right. The Onion wanted to purchase, who has become increasingly left the Onion as they have been split and sold and purchased. They went from a satire news site to becoming a parody of themselves which allowed the Babylon Bee, the more reasonable version, to emerge. That's how irrelevant the Onion has become. Once upon a time. They're very funny. They wanted to buy Alex Jones Infowars really just as kind of a troll job. And a judge blocked it, which I believe we have a clip of. Alex Jones rolls out the same barrel his father used. Sorry, it's easy to make that mistake. Here's the clip.

[Gerald]

Barrel chested.

[Josh Fierstein]

A US judge on Tuesday stopped the parody cite the Onion from buying conspiracy theorist Alex Jones Infowars website. At the end of a two day hearing in Houston, bankruptcy judge Christopher Lopez rejected Jones claim that the auction was plagued by collusion. However, he ruled that a November bankruptcy auction did not result in the best possible bids because the trustee running the auction failed to encourage back and forth bidding between the Onion and a Jones affiliated company, which was the runner up.

[Steven Crowder]

So Alex actually addressed this on X this morning, which is just funny that it's. You don't think of Alex Jones as like a morning guy. Yeah, but his head pops off the pillow and he's Alex Jones.

[Gerald]

Like at full tilt.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, immediately.

[Gerald]

Coffee is not necessary.

[Steven Crowder]

I said I want a breakfast in bed. I want to thank everyone who has stood with myself and the Infowars crew as we weathered the total deep state assault in the last nine years. I could not have done it without any of you. I salute you, Alexander Emmerich Jones why your middle name is Emerick.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Josh Fierstein]

That's cool.

[Gerald]

Typically, that's when people become assassins that we call them by their full yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. He's going to be joining us here at the end of the show to discuss the judges ruling the future of Infowars. And yeah, some conspiracies. I don't know if mission control pulled that clip. The funniest clip from the courtroom drama. That's what.

[Gerald]

Yeah, they're looking.

[Steven Crowder]

He can't help himself but be Alex Jones. Before we move on to Lily Phillips here, we did talk about this at the beginning of the show. Yeah. American financing.net Crowder let them help you save hundreds of hundreds of dollars a month on average. No upfront fees. You can close in 10 days. I've been through this process. It is extremely difficult right now. Make sure you have an expert in your corner. Just go to americanfinancing.net Crowder and Gerald.

[Gerald]

The NMLS number is 182334, the number we always have to say for some unknown reason.

[Steven Crowder]

But they can still do pharmaceutical ads. So I don't know how it works.

[Gerald]

1-823. Is it 1-823-34?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I think so.

[Gerald]

Okay.

[Steven Crowder]

Lily Phillips, what do you think, Joshua? Whoa.

[Josh Fierstein]

That's quick. I think.

[Steven Crowder]

Whoa. I didn't know. I didn't have a segue.

[Josh Fierstein]

Yeah. I don't have anything nice.

[Steven Crowder]

I had a segue.

[Josh Fierstein]

My mom told me if I don't have anything nice to do.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Josh Fierstein]

Thank you, Vicki, for the assist.

[Steven Crowder]

So, look, and I want to be clear about this here. We talked about this last week, and many of you tuned in or many of you sounded off. Lily Phillips. Right. She's the woman who is planning to sleep with a thousand guys in 24 hours. Now, I know that it may seem like I was harsh on her, and I think it's deserved because I think a lot of damage is done with this, certainly to young women. I think the porn culture is damaging to you. It's damaging to young men, too. And we'll get to that. But if you look at a lot of the comments here, there was a recent documentary released when she previously, she slept with 100 guys in 24 hours. I think it's important as Christians for us to remember that. Look, if we don't believe that people can be redeemed, and that doesn't mean that your past is erased, doesn't mean that it's not an indicator of future behavior. But if we don't believe that people can be redeemed, then we serve a useless God. Right. That's the entire basis of our faith is confession, is redemption, and, you know, the fruits of the tree. So it does rub me. I would say all of us here the wrong way when people. I get you want to dunk on someone. And yes, you need to showcase evil for what it is, especially when someone is promoting it to other people. But to act as though this person cannot make better decisions moving forward, I don't necessarily think is helpful. Because then you close the door to what it is that hopefully we're all fighting for and striving toward in the first place. So this week there was this documentary. I warn you, it's pretty heartbreaking. And this is where you see when the curtain is pulled back, you know what? You would see the same kind of heartbreak for fat pride activists, for a lot of abortion activists, people shouting their abortion. You see this with a lot of trans activists who then want to detransition. Right. You don't know how the story ends. And in the media, we give the attention, or I should say the media does tend to give the attention to people in the middle of their biggest mistakes, because that gets the clicks and you don't tend to hear about either the redemption or the fallout, the fractures that have taken place after through choosing that kind of a life. So this is a portion of this documentary where Phillips, I believe Lily Phillips is talking about the first time she slept with 100 guys in 24 hours. And my heart breaks for her. And it breaks for anyone who would follow her lead.

[Lily Phillips]

I think sometimes, like, feeling so, like, robotic, like by the. I think like the 30th, you know, like when we're getting on a bit, I've got like a routine of, like, how we're gonna do this. And, like, it just sometimes you'd like, disassociate and be like, you know, like it's not like normal. Like when they'd kind of be like, oh, like we've only had two minutes or three minutes and you said five on the message.

[Steven Crowder]

Did someone say that to.

[Lily Phillips]

Yeah. And obviously just makes feel so bad.

[Steven Crowder]

Do you think you should feel bad about that?

[Lily Phillips]

I guess when you've promised something to people who support you, it's kind of hard to let them down.

[Steven Crowder]

But it's up to you, right? Like when you, you know.

[Lily Phillips]

Yeah, yeah. I don't know if I'd recommend it.

[Steven Crowder]

Pause it really quickly.

[Lily Phillips]

I think if you're a different.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't think she's being disingenuous. There. There is a Pathology for some people who have to actually be pleasers and really just crave acceptance, often because they weren't given the kind of attention or usually healthy masculine love growing up where she feels bad for not allowing men who will never see her again or care about her. They're mad because they don't get to penetrate her for all of five minutes because she has to move on to the next man whore. So I want to be really clear here too. These men who take part are awful as well. Let's just be really, really clear. And of course she wouldn't recommend it because she knows it's bad. She won't say that when it's the veneer out there. She's trying to say, this is my choice. I'm proud. She's not. It's very clear she feels bad about it and this is why she wouldn't recommend it. Let's continue.

[Lily Phillips]

Different type of girl. It's very like. It's kind of like being a. In a sense of like kind of. It's just a different.

[Josh Fierstein]

It's exactly that.

[Lily Phillips]

Feeling. I don't know how to explain it.

[Steven Crowder]

Like, it's not like just having sex with someone.

[Lily Phillips]

Yeah, yeah. Just one in, one out. Like it feels intense.

[Steven Crowder]

The word you're looking for is wrong process. Do you think what's happened?

[Lily Phillips]

Not yet. God, I won't forget this day. Jesus.

[Steven Crowder]

Everything is about feel. Feel. And this is why you don't follow your heart. Because your heart can be easily led astray. Your feelings cheat. They lie to you all the time. And sometimes you even feel conviction. And you can cheat by stuffing that down and convincing yourself that there's another reality. That's true. And so you see some of these posts on social from people saying, you got your 15 minutes, Lily Phillips. All it cost was your soul. She has no soul left. This shows how sick. And I agree, this shows how sick our society has become. But someone posting Lily Phillips probably end up killing herself if we're being honest. Look, and I'm not one to ever. I'm not outraged. I'm not offended. What I'm just saying is you do see some of these people now who don't include the pursuit of spreading the good news, the pursuit of people being redeemed and just want to dunk. And you do. There needs to be shame. Because sometimes it's not about the person you're dealing with, it's about the people watching. And if she's going out and she's saying, this is my choice and it's a Valid choice for everyone out there. Yeah, yeah. That needs to be shut down, but it also needs to be met with an alternative. Yep. The first thing Jesus did was point out people's sin and it was go and sin no more. He didn't just hang out with sinners his whole life. He said, you think if they were still prostitutes, if they were still tax collectors, and I love that. Tax collectors were put in the same class as prostitutes in the Bible. That's fair. You think you would have been hanging out with them. No, no. But it doesn't mean that you revel in people destroying their life. And a big part of this, just like we talked about with Jordan Neely, you see it manifest itself in different ways. What about the parents? Where are the parents? And there's an argument right now where people are saying, I think she's lying here. I don't think she is. Which is even more troubling. According to this woman. Her parents are supportive of being a prostitute, to use her words.

[Josh Fierstein]

What is your parents view?

[Lily Phillips]

No, they're like so, so proud. Like, I generally have proof. My dad texts me like literally yesterday saying, I'm so proud of you, I love you so much. Like, they're fully supportive and things like that. My mom's actually, like, seen my only fans. She sees what I do to like a certain extent. Not the videos. Oh, yeah, that must be a little long. Sex tapes, like, watch this now.

[Steven Crowder]

We were sitting here during run through, going like, oh, I bet you they're not. Some people thought that maybe she's lying. I don't think she's lying. Yeah, I don't think she's lying. And that's a real problem. A lot of parents think that it's their job to just make their kids happy. I just want my kids to be happy. Well, of course you want your children to be happy. Of course you want your sons and daughters to be happy. But that's not your only job. Happiness is very different from purpose, fulfillment, pleasure, virtue, these are different things. You can have pleasure that's again disguised as happiness, but it doesn't mean anything and it's very temporary. You can be happy, meaning you're getting pleasure from going through the entire horizontal row of Oreos. And then you can convince everyone that you're proud and people can be healthy at any body shape. Guess what? That's not actual fulfillment. That's not true happiness. I bet you people here, hey, it would bring you pleasure to sleep with every single Dallas Cowboys cheerleader. I get it. Not that some people are going to say not all of them. But the point remains. But that wouldn't actually be fulfilling. That would be a violation of myself. And you have some parents. I just want them to be happy. No, your job is to raise your children and prepare them for the world so that they don't make decisions just based on short term happiness. That's not the only job that you have as a parent. You don't want them to be miserable, but you want them to find happiness, to find fulfillment in things that are virtuous. We used to understand that. That's why we discipline children. And it wasn't considered unloving to discipline your children. Whether it's a timeout or. Yeah, whether it's a spanking. Why? Because you know that that behavior is not going to ultimately lead to a happy life. So I see this quite a bit. I was just watching A Christmas Story last night. I remember seeing the dad where he's like getting back randy and then he loves. Then there's a scene where he's opening the red Ryder BB gun. And Darren, I think Darren McGavin was the name of the actor, is watching his son. And he has this joy because he wants to make his son happy, that moment of happiness. But he also washes his mouth out with soap when he swears. Why? Because that's not how you behave. We don't do that in this house. Because it's not right. You need both. If you love your children, saying, yeah, go bang 1000 guys makes you a bad parent. And saying, yeah. And you know what? Hold yourself out as a model for other women out there is really bad. Before we get into this discussion, and I want to give the floor to you, Gerald, look, this is not inconsequential as far as being in porn. It's tied with higher suicide rates, depression, an astronomical drug overdose rate, incredible STD rates. Right? 90% of porn stars have genital herpes. And then there's the dangers of consuming too much porn. You have erectile dysfunction in people who are younger and younger. You have increased rates of sexual violence. You have premature ejaculation. You have anxiety. You have people who no longer are able to find sexual satisfaction in real relationships. I'm not saying that thinking naked people are beautiful is the same. I'm talking about tab in a tab in a tab in a tab of a hardcore pornography. And the people who advocate for pornography. They talk about this commercialized capitalist society and Instagram and the shortening attention span and how damaging it is for some reason that all Disappears when it comes to the world's greatest natural dopamine hit that we know of, which is sexual arousal. And before you say hypocrite. Yep. Every guy here, I guarantee you, has either dabbled or watched a lot of pornography because it's 2024, and it's unavoidable. You want to make that argument? Okay, fine. It doesn't mean that these points are any less true. You have the floor. So.

[Gerald]

And I agree, like, it's just. It's really sad watching this, this time. Right. Seeing this, I think, is just very heartbreaking. As a father, I don't. I don't have any daughters, but as a father, you know, I'm thinking of my child and the time that I spent with them and then them going down this road. Like, you know that that road does not lead to life.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Gerald]

There's only death down that road. And I don't mean necessarily just physically, though that could be a possibility because of depression and all kinds of things that can come from this. Regret, inability to find happiness in the future. It leads to all kinds of problems. But what I want to encourage people to do is. And we do this the wrong way most of the time. And I don't mean we just like us on the show. I mean, just in general, we stick with the truth. We're really good at telling people what the truth is. That's the dunking part. Right. It's a terrible decision. You're a terrible person. This is the horrible thing that you're doing. I can't believe you're doing. That's the truth. But we don't have love that comes with it. You need the truth in love. In all of these situations, it's really easy to go after somebody and say, this is a horrible person. But it's very hard to go, this is a horrible thing that this person is doing. And I am going to now pray for this person. I hope that there's redemption for this person. I hope that there is a. An aha moment where this person goes, my goodness, I have gone down this terrible road. I can't undo that, but I can at least turn away from that.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

And we don't do a very good job of that. And I think that's something that I'm sure I fall victim to online as well. It's very easy just to dunk on people. But praying for people, praying for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, praying for Nancy Pelosi, praying for people that you vehemently disagree with, praying for Putin to Do better. Right. Like not praying for a dictator. Not to kill his dictators.

[Steven Crowder]

I pray for Putin to get a bigger table.

[Gerald]

There you go. I mean, but he's already gotten that, so, you know, prayer is answered.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly.

[Gerald]

So I think that's the part that we miss in all of this. And that's the heart that we have to find. We have to find our soul. Because guess what? She may lose her soul. Like you said in this. This may be something that she never turns away from. From. But you might lose yours as well in condemning her and not ever bringing the love to the table. So don't act like it's only on her. The people out there spewing hate and nothing but hate. And nothing but hate just to try to get some clicks. Do you think you're any less of a.

[Steven Crowder]

You're not also something else that I would add, though, too. Yeah, I agree. But I also understand people out there saying this is going to be relevant to the future man. That at some point she would want. Absolutely. I think that too many Christians are too soft. Well, the Lord has thrown it as far as the eye. You can't even see it. Listen, that's not true. God has. It is relevant to her future relationships and this man. And. Yep, then you run into feminism where this woman, who clearly didn't have a father is going to need to. I'm going to get people mad at this. Is going to need a man to train her. And by that meaning a man, if there is a man out there, it's unlikely. Who actually loves her and is willing to do the work. She's going to have to trust him and follow him and submit to him because she doesn't know what she is doing. But we can't do that anymore either, because that's sexist. Guess what she needs a little frickin patriarchy. That's what I mean. Yes.

[Gerald]

Well, she's in England. Islam is everywhere. That's all around the corner.

[Steven Crowder]

So anyways, that's that documentary out there that.

[Josh Fierstein]

Yeah. Speaking of documentaries, I actually. I just got the footage of an audition I did over the weekend.

[Steven Crowder]

Really?

[Josh Fierstein]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

What movie?

[Josh Fierstein]

Groundhog Day 2. They're finally redoing it. Tim, do you have the footage?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Okay, so we're ready for the last audition for Groundhog Day 2. Is there a Josh Fierstein out there? Okay, I guess that's.

[Josh Fierstein]

Wrap.

[Steven Crowder]

Those. Not the teeth. Not the teeth.

[Josh Fierstein]

Hi, I'm Josh. That might be why I have a sore throat.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, it might be. You're the One who started this?

[Gerald]

You're gonna have to pay for that shirt.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Also, the rabies shots for the office.

[Josh Fierstein]

Pop up a fur ball.

[Steven Crowder]

And right now we are going to. This is the first time announcing the unveiling of the new Rumble Premium mug. So we heard you. We've been working on this. You can bring it up there, Tool Man. Boom. Rumble Premium. Here you go. It's a co promotion mug. It's a little different from the OG but yeah, you join, you get this mug. You can click that button below or louderwithcrider.com mugclub I don't know if we have Rumble Premium or just join on the Rumble channel. So Mug club is Rumble Premium. Rumble Premium is Mug Club. But you add Dr. Disrespect, you add all the other content. That's what supports Mug Club Undercover. None of that happens without you. The investigative journalism. 99 annually. Try it for 9.99amonth. But you only get the mug if you do the annual.

[Gerald]

That's right, you only get the mug.

[Steven Crowder]

Because it is expensive.

[Gerald]

And we will email you. We've, we've. So we've had to work on a new system to be able to claim your mug and do this. It's taken us a little bit longer, so just be patient with us. We'll email you. You'll be able to go and get your mug and get everything taken care of. It'll be fantastic.

[Steven Crowder]

And convert your, your mug club over there on locals to Rumble Premium. It's free. There's a video up there where you just. Boom. Now you just watch on Rumble. You never, you never miss a thing. You don't have to go off site anymore. It is so much more convenient. You can watch on your tv, on an app or, you know, whatever. All right, there you go. Let's go to this really quickly before we get to conspiracies. Caitlin Clark, White Girl Time named this broad her athlete of the Year. And then it went from like, oh, nice story to woke in record time. Which brings us to Gerald no Sports Wide open. He scores. All right, Gerald, I'm let you finish. I'll let you finish.

[Gerald]

I don't see every time you say.

[Steven Crowder]

That, but naming a woman athlete of the Year is the silliest story of all time. But here you go.

[Alex Jones]

And we are going to begin with the Athlete of the Year. Winners include legends like Simone Biles, LeBron James, Lionel Messi. This year they chose someone who truly changed the game in her sport. Times 2024 Athlete of the Year is Caitlin Clark.

[Steven Crowder]

Obviously, I don't know that it's.

[Josh Fierstein]

Obviously. Obviously the lady who didn't make the Olympic team.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly.

[Gerald]

Yeah. Oh, come on, Josh. Look, this is an athlete, like, if you're looking at it within her sport, having an impact on it being kind of cultural phenomena, like, oh, sure, there's all kinds of reason for that. But look, instead of just kind of like taking this moment and enjoying this moment, Caitlin Clark did something that we tell people never to do. Never try to appease the woke mob, because they came after her very hard. And we've got a quote from what she said. They were coming after her because she was a white woman. And it's like, that's not by. She's popular, guys. Read her quote because she's really good. So here's what she said. I want to say that I've earned every single thing, but as a white person, there's privilege. Son of a bitch. A lot of those players in the league that have been really good have been the black players. The league has kind of been built by them. The more we can elevate black women, that's gonna be a beautiful thing.

[Josh Fierstein]

It's actually built by the NBA. It's built by men.

[Steven Crowder]

It's built by men. Yeah.

[Gerald]

It's built by charity. Because nobody really wants to watch the wnba. So it had to be propped up for a little while. Caitlin Clark, you've done a great job of bringing it around a little bit. Of course, though, she's only kind of parroting.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, she feels that she has to now because the amount of pressure that she. By the way, 70% black in the WNBA. I don't know. The percentage of lesbians, I would imagine similar.

[Gerald]

And a one to one ratio, I think.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes. And for those of you who don't, this is. This is the kind of rhetoric and by the way, the kind of bows that she's had to deal with.

[Josh Fierstein]

Clark.

[Steven Crowder]

Call. The question is, will they call it unnecessary? Check all those boxes.

[Josh Fierstein]

And she's straight and she's white. Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

This all makes up for what is.

[Alex Jones]

Considered to be a marketing phenomenon for.

[Josh Fierstein]

A lot of people.

[Alex Jones]

Why did it take a Caitlin Clark.

[Josh Fierstein]

She wish for all of this to.

[Steven Crowder]

Pop off the conversation? The interesting pause real quick. Let me ask you this, Jamil. How large of a market do you think there is for black lesbians? Huge. I mean, because she's white. Yeah. The majority of the country is white. Who do you think wants to watch black? Let me really clear. With men's sports, race doesn't really matter. Men watch men's sports because they want to see the best on earth. That's it. The whole reason my sports team is to say, hopefully ours is the best in the country. The best on earth. Women don't tend to watch sports as much, but how big of a market do you think there is for black lesbians? Because the only people who want to watch black lesbians play basketball at a mediocre level, I would imagine, largely black lesbians. You just answered your own question, and you look stupid. Let's continue in the wnba. And I know I'll go down to history. I'll look back at 20 years and be like, yeah, the reason why we watching women's basketball is not just because of one person.

[Gerald]

It's because.

[Steven Crowder]

And I want you to realize that all of a sudden, we're pretty close. This has been as close as it's been.

[Andrew]

Caitlin's coming. There's more than just that that are coming.

[Steven Crowder]

What will the league have in store for them when they get there? Look, SVP violence. Reality is coming. Oh, yeah. But I do think that she is more relatable to more people. Because she's white? Because she's attractive. And unfortunately, there still is that stigma of. Against the LGBTQ community. Yes, yes, the stigma. Like, at what point do you go, hold on a sec. Hold on a second. I don't give a rat's ass about your civil rights struggle anymore, okay? You guys can't. Black people couldn't vote. That's a bad one. That's on us. We get it, but we corrected it. Slavery, awful. But it was fixed, right? Talking about interracial. I get it. I understand. Okay? It was corrected. And then you get to. Even if you want to get to, gays can't marry. Okay, fine, you make that argument, but at this point, you're complaining because people are choosing not to watch a subsidized league of lesbian black basketball players. Like, what do you think? There's some. Clearly, they're not being stopped from playing. Like, there's no moment in that Disney movie, like, let the black dyke play ball. It doesn't happen. It's just no one's watching it.

[Gerald]

You know what the problem is?

[Steven Crowder]

That's not a stigma. It's uninteresting.

[Gerald]

It is uninteresting. And the problem is it makes the news when a WNBA player dunks.

[Josh Fierstein]

Yes, okay, yes, we talked about that.

[Gerald]

I'm not talking about a good dunk. I'm talking like, oh, no, she got up. It's like, oh, that's a groundbreaking Moment. Fantastic.

[Steven Crowder]

That's air butch. There ain't nothing in the rules that says black lesbians can't dunk.

[Gerald]

Look, Josh, I know that, you know, you and I have disagreed a little bit about this, and. Really, you don't even think she deserves the award at all?

[Josh Fierstein]

No, because, I mean, there's a lot of people who are more deserving, I think, and it just comes down to, like, simple thing. Humor me, if you will. Okay, give me. Stephen, do you mind if we do a time travel thing and you be 35 years in the future? You be Shohei Ohtani.

[Steven Crowder]

I'll be your grandson, Shohei Ohtani. And be like. I'll be the grandson. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yes. Yes, I will.

[Josh Fierstein]

And we'll time travel into the future. Grandpa Shay.

[Steven Crowder]

No, wait. Grandpa, you. Grandpa.

[Gerald]

Grandpa.

[Steven Crowder]

Are you.

[Gerald]

Wait.

[Steven Crowder]

Grandpa.

[Josh Fierstein]

Shohei.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Josh Fierstein]

So you're saying in 2024, you signed the largest baseball contract in history and then bridged the Japanese and American cultures by creating the most popular World Series broadcast, most watched of all time, and you hit 50 home runs, stole 50 bases, and won a World Series?

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, and you.

[Josh Fierstein]

You didn't win Time magazine's athlete of the Year?

[Steven Crowder]

No, no, no, no. Well, then who won? Great shame. Great shame.

[Josh Fierstein]

Who won then?

[Steven Crowder]

Basketball player who cannot dunk.

[Josh Fierstein]

Oh, yeah. Great shame indeed, Grandpa. Great shame indeed.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Josh Fierstein]

Your only option is sepeku Sudoku. Seppuku.

[Steven Crowder]

Seppuku.

[Josh Fierstein]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Should have rehearsed, right? Let's go back to. I'm sorry. By the way, don't think that that's our pitch to join Rumble Premium. That is not.

[Gerald]

Listen, we can do better that we have. I mean, not always as seen by.

[Steven Crowder]

The fact that I'm clearly still in the dark.

[Gerald]

Yeah, Tim's working.

[Josh Fierstein]

Yeah, you get one of those every.

[Steven Crowder]

Couple weeks also, you know, it's also just the money. Like Caitlin Clark, the average game as far as viewership, 1.78 million. WNBA, their average game was 394,000. I mean, that's like. That's like the Hallmark mysteries at that point. And let's be really clear, too, appeasing the woke mob is futile. It never works. Every time it's taken place and someone has tried to guess what they come for you anyway, whether it's the Cuomos, whether it's. I mean, I'm trying to think here as to who has done it at some point in time. You saw it with Zuckerberg, you saw it with Jack Dorsey. I mean, you saw it with Jeff Bezos. There's no way it Just doesn't work. Just be who you are. Just say, you know what? I'm really good. Make yourself the heel. Go. Yeah, I guess I'm like Brock Lesnar. I'm a jacked white boy.

[Gerald]

Deal with it.

[Steven Crowder]

Just say, I'm a good basketball player. I'm white. If that bothers people. All right, fine. I'm sure there are a bunch of butch cutted black lesbians who are pissed off about it. Tune in. Watch me smoke them. That's it.

[Gerald]

You don't really watch it otherwise. And by the way, really great deals right now. Crowdershop.com. we've got a special. You got to go back up. I can't see the deck.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, I just wanted to move on because we're running late.

[Gerald]

We have to move on. But listen, just.

[Steven Crowder]

Crowdershop.com.

[Josh Fierstein]

It'S on the lower third.

[Gerald]

Two shirts, two hats, 40 bucks go today. No promo code needed.

[Steven Crowder]

Let's go to this, because this is something that is big in our culture at large right now. A lot of people feel as though. Hold on a second. What else is not true? Because what. What is yesterday's conspiracy theory is today's accepted historical fact. And we're going to have Alex Jones on in just a little bit.

[Gerald]

We just got a note on that. He had a little bit of a legal thing.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, no. What happened?

[Gerald]

He's okay.

[Steven Crowder]

Don't worry.

[Gerald]

But he's not going to be able to join us.

[Steven Crowder]

He's not able to join us?

[Gerald]

No, he's not. He has a legal thing. I'm sorry. I just found out. Just found out.

[Steven Crowder]

No, literally two seconds before I. Do we have like a. Do we have, like a quick, like, be right back. Don't we had that, like, an election or something? We could put up for like, 20 seconds just so I can talk with Joe? Because when I hear legal thing, my blood pressure just shot up.

[Gerald]

He's okay. We're okay. Nobody's going to.

[Josh Fierstein]

I'm just going to hit this dump button for a second, okay?

[Steven Crowder]

Dump button for just one second, and I'm going to find out what it is. All right? Okay. It's. It's all right. Maybe I just don't like how cryptic you are with things.

[Gerald]

Well, I don't want to give away too much information.

[Steven Crowder]

What are you.

[Josh Fierstein]

You're not a magician.

[Steven Crowder]

Exactly.

[Gerald]

What's in the box now? Can I tell people to go to cradle Chef?

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, ladies and gentlemen, the prestige.

[Gerald]

Can I do it? Can I be the one?

[Steven Crowder]

No. I want to get to the top five conspiracy Theories. So yesterday's conspiracy theories, today's historical. And I want to ask you, which one opened your eyes the most? I've been through this. Look, I've told you guys that I used to be more of a libertarian, and I certainly thought, ah, that sounds a little bit outlandish. I tried to approach everything as skeptically as possible and as logically as possible. And sometimes you kind of trap yourself with that, where you sort of look at the odds and you go, that just seems like there's no way it could be true. And then you find out, oh, my, it is true. So let's go through this. Actually, top five conspiracy theories, in my opinion, that turned out to be real in curious coincidences, I think maybe. And the reason that these are important too, is because they shape how we view foreign policy. They shape how we view our government. And the top one, number one, I will tell you, is actually not necessarily conspiracy theory. It's just something that most Americans didn't know. And I found out later on I was, do we actually do that? And it made me lose all trust in the virtuous nature of our government, which when I grew up, I kind of believed to some degree, still a conservative. So I believe they should be limited. All right, number five, this is one that you've probably heard of. The claim here is, well, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, right? The claim was that August 4, 1964, that the Vietnamese attacked a US naval destroyer, right, the USS Maddox, in international waters. And that led to the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which involved the United States getting heavily involved in Vietnam escalation, right? So this was a big catalyst for it. Like, oh, my gosh, this is basically them declaring war on us. Here's the truth. The United States government claim was untrue as far as the attack. So the conspiracy was. That was effectively a false flag. And now the left tries to gaslight you and say, oh, the term false flag. Oh, you're using that. You don't believe that shootings happen? No, no, no. This was a false flag in that it was orchestrated or the claim by the United States government. There was collusion and there was skepticism right away from naval officers, even President Johnson, who stated, hell, those damn stupid sailors were just shooting at flying fish. And in 2005, so you're going back to the Vietnam War. You're going back to the 1960s. And then in 2005, it finally gets verified. They go, okay, yeah, that's true. It was a false flag event.

[Gerald]

41 years later, it's fine.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, imagine if you find out 40 years from now that I don't know. Let's just. And I'm not saying this is the case. Vegas shooting was a false flag event. I'm not saying that it was. I'm just giving you. Do you understand that there were laws that were changed state laws in relation to that? Whether it's bump stocks. I'm saying taking something less consequential than the Vietnam War. You guys want to talk about time? What kind of alternate reality do you think we split off into if people didn't actually believe that, if it had been questioned at that point, if voices of dissent had not been stifled and silenced? Number four.

[Gerald]

I hadn't heard this one, by the way.

[Steven Crowder]

The Gulf of Tonkin.

[Gerald]

No, I hadn't heard that. It. So wasn't it the second attack that they were talking about? The second false flag? So the first attack.

[Steven Crowder]

The first attack was very small.

[Gerald]

It was small and it may not have been where they said it was. Maybe not in international waters, which makes a difference, I guess, to some degree, but I had no idea. The second one was just like, basically, it almost seems like, hey, deep state, let's go to war. Let's figure out a way to get.

[Josh Fierstein]

In 2005 when they finally verified as a false flag. That's. I mean, Vietnam veterans are still alive.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Josh Fierstein]

I mean, they're lively, they're spry.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

We had the draft because of this.

[Josh Fierstein]

They're watching this and going, yeah, exactly. This war. Watch their best friends die right now.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Josh Fierstein]

And then they're going, oh, thanks. How's my VA claim doing?

[Steven Crowder]

Right. Yeah. It dictates how we live now.

[Gerald]

We got hippies because of this. It's true, you bastards.

[Steven Crowder]

And by the all the references are available link in the description. We do that every day. It's very important with these because I also know people can go down a rabbit hole and then say, well, then nothing is true. You know, gravity is not real. That's not what we're saying. Test it out.

[Gerald]

Find a building, test it out. Let us know how it goes.

[Steven Crowder]

One story, conspiracy theory number four, Epstein Island. So here's what the left will do. They'll take something that maybe is false that's similar. Like some of the lore surrounding Pizzagate. Right. Remember that? And they go, see, this is what. You can't reason with. These people on the right, they think they're some kind of secret cabal run by political elite who are sexually trafficking or abusing children and minors. That's what they did. That Was their claim. There's no way this could happen. Well, here's a refresher.

[Andrew]

So where did this conspiracy theory start? Apparently some alt right folks were combing through Clinton campaign emails, hacked by Russia and published by WikiLeaks. And notice there seems to be more references to pizza and pizzerias than they had expected. Which can only mean one thing. Secret sex ring. There's a difference between a conspiracy. A conspiracy is what villains do. An agreement is what adults do. Look around the country, wouldn't you agree? We need some more adults. So WikiLeaks. So WikiLeaks. Alex Jones and these subreddit sub geniuses. And I mean this in the nicest way possible, Grow the up.

[Steven Crowder]

You know who needed some adults would probably be those underage sex slaves at Epstein Island. And not only was no one reporting on it, but it was actually being buried when reporters tried to shine a light on it. I bet you they really would have liked some adults. Mr. White Knight. Yeah, I know you're talking about you don't like the fact that people on subreddits may have some theories that are incorrect, but to simply dismiss all of it while people are being sex trafficked. I don't know if you get to. I don't know if you get to shout from your ivory tower. Get up on your high horse. So this is where we were, right, 10 years ago, Epstein Island. It was basically a conspiracy theory. Alex Jones. Only that's what we were told. Right wing conspiracy about all the sex cabals. They put it all in one big pile. And the media at that point still gushed over Epstein, I would imagine because of his powerful friends. Here's a 2003 Vanity Fair piece. I have to. My iPad is going absolutely nuts. What's happening in the thing?

[Josh Fierstein]

That's a Siri thing.

[Gerald]

It is.

[Steven Crowder]

You're screwed.

[Josh Fierstein]

I'm Siri. Yeah, don't say the name. It started listening when you said Epson.

[Steven Crowder]

Did you notice that? Yes. So for guys like you can see, like I have here, I don't really have prompter. I just have like, I have an iPad with notes when I read these quotes and when we just mentioned Epstein. I'm not joking, you guys.

[Gerald]

Alex Jones. When you mentioned Alex Jones again, it finally came on.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, it just came on. Am I going to get arrested?

[Josh Fierstein]

Probably.

[Steven Crowder]

Let's be honest.

[Josh Fierstein]

Alex has your iPad tech.

[Gerald]

All I know is this shirt is more relevant today than ever. And every day I get to say that. Like every new day I'm like, he was right on More stuff.

[Steven Crowder]

So it's not only that no one had an interest just to give. There were people behind the scenes and yes, Alex Jones saying, this is going on.

[Gerald]

Right.

[Steven Crowder]

And then you had people like Colbert out there going, let's be adults. I just. I just hate the evil of the left. It is evil. Whenever they go look, they want you to fear open borders, that. It's just that they say they're not bringing their best. Donald Trump says they're not saying that. Racist. Hold on a second. What about the sex traffickers? Do you realize there are more slaves right now on Earth than ever in recorded history? It's over 40 million. You know that, right? And a huge portion of them are sex slaves. You know that. More slaves right now on Earth, total number than in recorded history. And you want to tell us to grow up? You're going to condemn the people who are trying to track down leads to figure out who's trafficking some of these sex slaves. Grow up. Maybe it's not a pizza parlor. Maybe it's a whole godforsaken island. And the media not only didn't cover it, they're writing puff pieces about Epstein. 2003 Vanity Fair. It's titled the Talented Mr. Epstein.

[Gerald]

Well, hold on.

[Josh Fierstein]

I hated that Disney movie.

[Gerald]

I was about to say, isn't that kind of a bad thing to do? Because wasn't the talented Mr. Ripley, like, a killer?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, but if you read the piece, it's relatively flattering.

[Gerald]

But hold on.

[Steven Crowder]

Didn't.

[Gerald]

Tim, did you say there was a picture of Colbert?

[Josh Fierstein]

I don't have it, but, yeah, I'm pretty sure there's a picture of him at Con.

[Gerald]

What are you saying, though?

[Steven Crowder]

That he was at the place that he's.

[Gerald]

No, I understand, but what do you.

[Steven Crowder]

Stop it. Let's not derail it.

[Josh Fierstein]

Yeah, thanks for derailing the segment, Gerald.

[Gerald]

That's real. You're welcome.

[Josh Fierstein]

Here's producing.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's the truth. There was a sex island. I'm sure you guys know that. Yeah, we learned that in 2019. It's like, oh, yeah, there's definitely. Hey, adults have entered the building. Hey, there's a sex island here.

[Josh Fierstein]

Did he ever say sorry? They were apologize or no tractor.

[Steven Crowder]

No, none of these people did say sorry.

[Josh Fierstein]

Apparently you were all grown the f up.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah. And by the way, this is the same media who buried the Clinton Lewinsky scandal. Remember, that's how Drudge came to be. Because every single major media outlet passed on it because they were doing the bidding of Bill Clinton. And a lot of powerful people I mean, you have, obviously the Clintons. You have a long list of people. It's always weird when you see a flight with Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker. That's an odd combination, but I don't know if they went to the island. Chris Tucker. It was Chris Tucker.

[Gerald]

Tucker.

[Steven Crowder]

Chris Tucker.

[Josh Fierstein]

Don't touch his radio.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, it was Chris Tucker. Bill Clinton and Kevin Spacey on the same plane quite a few times. I don't think they were doing anything. But just to be clear, I love Chris Tucker's interview. It is definitely a real place. And by the way, a lot of people here, probably. It's well documented on camera, this place. Oh, hey, that's why he's mad.

[Gerald]

That's not.

[Steven Crowder]

Let's go to conspiracy here. Number three. This one is. There are quite a few. There are sub conspiracies. Right. That have proven to be true with COVID Again, all references available. The claim that Covid was a natural virus that mutated and absolutely was not from a lab. You were banned if you insinuated it. We were removed from social media platforms because we stated it. If you were an expert. Are you an epidemiologist? Well, no, I'm not, but there are plenty of epidemiologists who actually say there's no way that this virus occurs in nature. But they were removed because the government's looking out for you. And now we get to the truth. The House subcommittee just this month confirmed it came from a lab. Whoops.

[Gerald]

How many years later, hey, does that.

[Steven Crowder]

Change how we handle Covid? Hey, let me ask you this. Does that change how we handle Covid if we know that it could have been bioengineered? Does it change the fact that the media said Donald Trump was a racist when he called it the Chita virus? In other words, at that point in time, would you be less concerned with him pointing the finger at China, which I don't even know how that's racist, and more concerned with the nation, an adversarial nation, who potentially engineered it and released it. Do you think it changes not only perception, but the next step we take moving forward? That's why the press, when they do the bidding of the government, is the enemy of a free and informed people. Another claim as it relates to Covid. Right. They just insisted at this point in time that lockdowns were needed to stop the spread of COVID And so many people believe this. Even conservatives were calling me when we did 2A days during the lockdown saying, you can't do that. That's Irresponsible. Everyone's going to die. I was like, I'll chance it.

[Gerald]

He loves us. Yeah, he really loves us.

[Josh Fierstein]

And he only lost four people.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, but there are four that I wanted to lose. So. And this is all under trust the science. Trust the science. The science. And the science went from. This likely came from a. A bat sandwich at a wet market to this can live on surfaces. Remember, everyone was sanitizing their packages.

[Gerald]

UPS packages.

[Steven Crowder]

Come on. UPS packages. Pickleball became popular because literally, they would keep pickleball courts open in Nevada because you could clean the ball and you couldn't clean a tennis ball.

[Gerald]

Okay, that makes sense.

[Steven Crowder]

That's a big reason that pickleball became very popular. That's how crazy we were at that point in time was trust us. It was all trust us. Then trust the science went to. And of course we have to lock down. Of course we have to shut down businesses and we have to shut down local markets. Markets. But keep Walmarts and keep Costco's open. We have to shut down plant nurseries, but keep weed shops open in Michigan. Right. This was all trust the science. The lockdowns. That is science. And let me tell you this too. You know when I really knew it was BS was when Fauci said, don't try and make hand sanitizer at home because it doesn't work with liquor at home. And I said it on the show. I said, no, no, what he means to say is it doesn't work if it's vodka. That's 40% alcohol because you need about 60% alcohol. Hey, guess what? You can buy Everclear or you can buy cask strength bourbon and dilute it to 60% alcohol. And then what happened when we needed more sanitizer? Guess where it came from? Distilleries. I told you this. When Fauci came out and said, you cannot make hand sanitizer at home. I said, yep, I'm not a scientist. Showed you the science. As long as you have 60% alcohol and some way to create friction here, you will be able to use it as a sanitizer. I wasn't a scientist. Trust the science. And these same guys said, lockdown. Hey, think it would have helped you if you could have gone and purchased some alcohol and made hand sanitizer at that point in time? Maybe. Here's the truth. We now know that authorities knew at that time when they were telling you this lockdowns were going to be catastrophic. They would hurt the economy. They would hurt our health first and foremost. And Schoolchildren and that it had no actual effect on the spread. We know that now. They knew it then. They knew it then. The science knew it then. They certainly knew the ramifications. They certainly knew the negative outcomes. They didn't know that it would have no effect. They knew it would probably have a negligible effect. They did it anyway. Hope it was worth it. For those of you who have children who didn't go to school for two years, just conspiracy theory. We need adults in the room. Right, Colbert? And by the way, you know how you know it's true? Not just the sources, the empirical that we provide for you. But yeah, in this case, the anecdotal is also quite substantiating the Varma story that we covered. Remember, he was the. He was the COVID architect in New York. He was locking people down. You and your children couldn't go to school while he was having sex parties and strong arming everyone to get vaccinated.

[Andrew]

I actually was the one who convinced the mayor to make it a man date.

[Steven Crowder]

Like New York City found out that.

[Gerald]

You were having sex partings during COVID.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it would have been a big day. Yeah, it would have been a real barrel. We went to some, like, underground, like, dance party, like underneath a bank in Wall street. And we were all rolling. We were all taking Molly and everybody's high. And I was so happy because I hadn't done that in like a year and a half. Like a year or whatever. But I was looking around, being like, I wonder because this was not Covid one. So the way we do it in public health is we make it very uncomfortable to be unvaccinated. I don't expect the education to change your behavior. I'm just gonna make it really FA your job. You can't get a job. You can't go to a restaurant. Kid can't go to school. It's like, it, I'm just gonna get vaccinated.

[Steven Crowder]

So was it technically, like, kind of forced?

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's what you force people by making it really uncomfortable.

[Steven Crowder]

And who knows the level of STDs at those pharma sex parties. Luckily, it was all actually documented on camera. That makes sense. That makes double sense.

[Gerald]

I never hold a glass like that. That's not true.

[Josh Fierstein]

That's where they got their Molly. Keep rolling.

[Steven Crowder]

Rolling.

[Gerald]

Sensing a theme.

[Steven Crowder]

And we all had to live through this. We all had to. Covid is probably the biggest awakening that I've seen in the public. Here's one to me that is absolutely insane that no one Is talking about more. This is number two, the claim. And you see this a lot and people just accept it. I will say this, this one is so pervasive that it's actually the premise of how we run government. We absolutely need every dollar that we spend right now. There's nothing we can sacrifice. What do you want to do? You don't want roads, you don't want firefighting services? What? You don't want a military. That's what you hear. If ever you go, hey, is there any way that we could trim anything back? It seems like our debt's kind of ballooning here. They tell you every single dime that we have now we absolutely need, and we need more. That's the claim.

[Josh Fierstein]

Oh, which one is it? There we go.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, indeed, the goose is getting fat. We have a big bill here because we have big needs for our country, for the well being of our troops, for the preservation of our national security, for the tens of millions of Americans who look to the federal government for a wide range of basic services. Democrats and Republicans must work together to fully fund the federal government for our country, Madam speaker, and our communities in the long term. Congress must enact an omnibus funding package. Okay, well, we need that money. That's always what, you gotta have it. Oh, yeah, well, do you believe in roads for the children? Then you believe in socialism? Here's the truth, okay? Not only do they not need all those dollars, but the new Government Accountability Office report, okay, this is not in doubt. The only portion that's in debate is how bad it is in any given year. But at the bare minimum, in any given year, the amount of fraud, meaning money that we have, we have no idea where it is, how it's been used, or we're gonna track it. 233 billion to $500 billion a year just from 2018 to 2023 alone.

[Josh Fierstein]

That's just federally too, isn't it?

[Steven Crowder]

Yep. Let's round it $400 billion a year. This ghost money, I'm not saying people going, oh, it looks like maybe actually this wasn't used appropriately. Money that can't actually be tracked. We don't know where it is, so let's call that 400 billion. Hey, you don't think that just starting with that, we could trim 1.5 trillion easily from the budget. That would be a gimme. Just bring forward the shrimp on a treadmill and that kind of shit, all of that, bring it forward. $500 billion. We don't know where it is.

[Gerald]

That's insane.

[Steven Crowder]

Do you have Any idea how expensive what you are paying in taxes? Picture all of your taxes just disappeared. You think I pay my taxes? Great, it's gone now. It's gone. $500 billion a year. And they want us to believe that we absolutely cannot do without 100% of this budget. It's not a conspiracy. This is, this is unilaterally agreed upon and proven. And to me that's probably the worst one. Just because that's the basis of our government. When we sit down and have a vote, it's how much more are we going to spend? Very rarely cut.

[Gerald]

Yeah, it's not even including waste, like projects that we shouldn't be spending money on.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Josh Fierstein]

Just strictly fraud.

[Gerald]

Yeah, that's somebody defrauding us. That's us going, oops, lost the money. Sorry about that. That is absolutely insane. So I'm really glad for Doge, Elon, Musk and Vivek. Like they're probably going to find. What did he say he wanted to cut a couple trillion dollars from the budget? Yeah, I think with 500 billion as.

[Steven Crowder]

A starting point and people like Colbert go, this is clown. We need some adults. You know, I thought we needed some adults when we, oh wait, we lost 500 billion this year. Just, it's gone. Where are the adults? You're the adult.

[Gerald]

They bought islands.

[Steven Crowder]

How do you fix it? The gaslighting that takes place, they want you to believe, oh, this is absurd. Here's the number one for me. And it's hard for me. There really isn't a claim because this was just buried. Right. And this is a fact that has actually been apologized for on behalf of our government. But when I heard this, I was kind of embarrassed that I didn't know about this. And I'd love for you to comment when you see this if you did. You probably do if you watch this program. But I didn't for a long time, until the mid 2000s. Let's just go with the truth, I guess. At this point, the United States government conducted experiments on Guatemalans by knowingly allowing 5,000 Guatemalans to contract STDs and withholding treatment. They did this in 1946. And part of the way they spread this was by putting prostitutes into the prison system in Guatemala. Put prostitutes in there, ensured that STDs would spread across Guatemala and withheld treatment just to see what would happen.

[Alex Jones]

A White House bioethics commission has revealed gruesome new details about American run venereal disease experiments on unsuspecting Guatemalans from 1946-48. The testing focused on sexually transmitted diseases and involved US medical officials intentionally infecting Guatemalan sex workers, prisoners, soldiers, mental patients without their permission in order to study the effects of penicillin. The New York Times reports, quote, when some of the men failed to become infected through sex, the bacteria were poured into scrapes made on the penises or faces, or even injected by spinal puncture.

[Gerald]

Geez.

[Steven Crowder]

And you can go and look at the record. Barack Obama apologized for this in 2010. I believe that Hillary Clinton apologized for it even earlier than that. This happened. Does that make you question your government a little bit? Their humanity? They gave Guatemalans STDs and then encouraged them to have lots of sex. Luckily, it was all documented on camera. Yep.

[Gerald]

Come on.

[Steven Crowder]

Seeing it.

[Josh Fierstein]

Aw, man.

[Gerald]

Guys.

[Steven Crowder]

Gerald and I know what you're thinking. Well, you know, Guatemala, who cares? I don't know if you know this. The United States, they did this to Americans, too. An STD experiment in Tuskegee, Alabama. This is a 1932. Your government deliberately lied to 600, at least black men about treating them for syphilis just to study the effects of untreated syphilis. So they withheld medication from over 600 black men just to see what syphilis does to the human body. And in case you don't believe me, believe Bill Clinton in 1997, who apologized for this experiment on our own people. I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Sorry. Right clip. Here's him apologizing on behalf of the American people. What the United States government did was.

[Gerald]

Shameful, and I am sorry.

[Steven Crowder]

I guess that covers it. Tuskegee. Whoops.

[Gerald]

I think. I think it's okay that we did let those guys fly.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Gerald]

So we made it up. Sorry about all the. What did we give them? Sexual disease. Yeah, that's our bad.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Gerald]

Syphilis. Yeah, Sorry about the syphilis. Here's nervous.

[Steven Crowder]

It's not that this was never a conspiracy, but it is to me, because the media never covered it. Can you imagine? People are talking about George W. Bush and Katrina. Remember, George Bush does not care about black people. Talking about how your government isn't looking out for you. And by the way, I agree in a lot of cases. Why wasn't this shouted from the rooftops everywhere? How many of you know this? Check the references. That, to me, is as evil as. It almost gives credence to the other dictators or fascists or totalitarians across the globe who go, oh, you think your government's so good?

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

You go, yeah, yeah, we've done a lot of. We've done a lot of crap. And that doesn't mean that every single person in government is bad. But for this to have taken place and then for you to be blamed for being mistrusting of them, I think you should be as mistrusting of every institution as humanly possible. Why? Because it's 2024 and any other position would be illogical. A bonus conspiracy. And this is one that just dawned on me last night and has been eating at me, which brings me to double secret coincidences. And he was going to be on the show here today, Mr. Alex Jones, a friend of the show. But I wonder. I wonder if he couldn't be on the show today because of a legal call, an emergency legal call that he had to get on or because he was too busy acting in the American classic A Christmas Story. Move it a little bit to the right. Yeah, that way. Just a little more to the right. Okay, more. That's it. Don't stop. Right there. That's wonderful.

[Josh Fierstein]

Hey, park, what is that? He's wearing a Cartman hat, too. That's fantastic.

[Gerald]

You got that Christmas story money, don't you?

[Steven Crowder]

That's the thing. I don't know. I've always defended him. I don't think he's a grifter, but he's getting the right hand knows not what the left hand is. Something, something doing.

[Gerald]

He got himself a leg.

[Steven Crowder]

He's got a union card, that guy. I don't know where else he's been, but that is him in A Christmas Story. I have no doubt about it. And it makes me very skeptical of any of his claims as we move forward. Not everything's a conspiracy, right? We know that not everything's really a conspiracy. But I do think that a healthy skepticism of government is good. I don't just think it's a good idea. I think it's necessary.

[Josh Fierstein]

Yeah. I think when someone in a place of power says, trust me, I think you should be skeptical.

[Gerald]

No, you say no. You don't say yes. You don't just say, I'm skeptical? No. How about no, absolutely not. How about you prove to me that you're not?

[Steven Crowder]

It can be followed by two questions that are most effective. Yeah, Trust me. Why? Well, because I have a degree. Because I'm an epidemiologist and whatever. And then your next question. So the first question is why? The next question is so they don't have an answer. Trust me. I've been in the room with these. They do not have an answer.

[Josh Fierstein]

Trust Me?

[Gerald]

Wait, no. I can't trust you. I can. Will you provide sources?

[Steven Crowder]

No, but don't trust me. Trust the sources, trust the references. I wouldn't trust anyone out there who doesn't provide the references to you every single day, every claim they are making. I mean, we used to do that. Think about. We went from school when we were kids where you had a bibliography, where you had references, and you were actually. I don't know if you had to do this in school. I was taught how to actually check references, how to cross reference. Right. And then when it comes to media, the press, when it comes to government making claims, we don't do that anymore. We do it to find out how the little bug went. Kachoo. When I'm in the second grade. But not when we're just supposed to trust you. On the single biggest violation of fundamental human rights in the United States in the form of lockdowns and vaccine mandates. Wait, you're not going to provide me with anything? And you're going to remove the voices of people who are. Yeah. I certainly think that when we're at that point and someone says, trust me, the answer is why? They'll list their qualifications, so. Especially when it comes to science. Science is not governed by consensus. It is governed by what is correct. There can be consensus that the Earth is flat. And if one person is right, that's the science.

[Josh Fierstein]

It's like the creepy elf from Polar Express. At the end, when he. What? The kid wants his present, he goes, give it to me. Trust me. I'm like, I don't think I trust this golem.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't remember that person in Polar Express.

[Josh Fierstein]

Oh, yeah. Blocked it out of your mind. Yeah, it's disturbing.

[Steven Crowder]

There's a troll person.

[Josh Fierstein]

Elves? Yeah. Little hobo elves. They're weird. Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Are they bad?

[Gerald]

Not bad. It's just that the animation was, like, really weird.

[Josh Fierstein]

Just sketchy. Slaves.

[Gerald]

Yeah, pretty much. By the way, we do have that Alex Jones clip before we go to Rumble premium mug club.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, and by the way. Hey, the one thing I want to say on CNN right now, Hegseth meets with three Trump critics on Capitol Hill. How many of these people confirmed people like Merrick Garland? Can we cross reference the critics, the people who are holding out on Hegseth? Not saying he's perfect. How many of them confirmed all kinds of liberal appointments? Right, That's. Anyone who's done that, I'm done with those people. How about that? That's where I am at this point. Absolutely. So this is a clip from Alex Jones during the trial where Alex Jones simply could not help himself. He was very disciplined. This is just one of those clips that I find to be hysterical. Every time I watch it, there's going to be another objection. Can I get my questions out? When it's the same form second time, the inference is it's going to be false of you object. I didn't say Parkland was fake. I didn't say Yvaldi was. And no, I.