ICE Shot Alex Pretti: And That Was Always The Plan

Summary

Louder with Crowder Podcast Summary

Episode: ICE Shot Alex Pretti: And That Was Always The Plan
Date: January 26, 2026
Host: Steven Crowder
Theme: Analyzing the ICE shooting of Alex Pretti, broader immigration enforcement debates, and media narratives.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the recent shooting of Alex Pretti by ICE agents in Minnesota amid heightened protests over immigration enforcement. Steven Crowder and his skeleton crew dissect media coverage, government response, activist behavior, and propose their own framework for addressing illegal immigration. They critique both left- and right-wing takes, highlight the contextual nuances of the Pretti shooting, and emphasize the dangers they see in both the organized protest movement and poor federal communication strategies.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Scene: Icy Weather, Thin Crew, National Focus

• Due to severe weather, Crowder's usual team is reduced, prompting a more relaxed, interactive episode.
• Crowder sets the main topic: the ICE-related shooting and the resulting media and political narratives, especially in Minneapolis.

2. Crowder’s “Four-Point Plan” for Immigration

• Premise: The current system is broken, burdened by toxic empathy and lack of enforcement.
• Proposes a phased deportation approach:
  • Self-Deportation Incentivized: "You can self deport and get $2,600 right now. Register on the CBP1 app, no penalties, and we’ll pay for your flight." (13:17)
  • Target Imprisoned Illegal Aliens First: "During the one month period, only go after illegal aliens in prisons." (17:14)
  • Arrest Officials Who Obstruct: "We arrest any governor or mayor who doesn't allow deportation from prisons." (17:45)
  • After One Month, Broaden Enforcement: "Then we go after everyone who remains, prioritizing criminals, and arrest officials still obstructing." (17:45)
• Quote (Crowder, 17:14):
  "Let the entire American public know. An address from the White House — self deport, you guys have one month, $2,600, CBP1 app."

3. Media & Public Narratives on the ICE Shooting

• Crowder illustrates how the story has been shaped:
  • Early reports and videos suggest excessive force.
  • Additional footage and details reveal Pretti and others crossed the street to confront ICE, resisted arrest, and Pretti was armed.
• Dissects how activists and left-wing politicians seek “martyrs” and how editing video clips can drastically alter perception.
• Emphasizes no evidence exists of ICE harming passive, law-abiding protestors:
  Quote (Crowder, 17:58):
  "We still don't have one example of people standing on the sidewalk, filming, protesting, not impeding, ...being shot or physically abused. We've not seen one yet."

4. Breakdown of the Pretti Shooting as Seen by Crowder

• Timestamps:
  • [22:47–24:52] — Analysis of protest footage showing Pretti’s prolonged involvement and physical resistance.
  • [25:05–26:51] — Discussion of the gun’s removal, chaos, and the sequence leading to gunfire.
• Argues the incident was a direct result of activists instigating and creating confusion, not a clean-cut overreaction by ICE.
• Explains the "reasonableness" legal threshold for law enforcement use of force.

5. Organized Anti-ICE Activism

• Reveals activists use encrypted Signal groups, coordinated zones, roles, and deletion of evidence to impede ICE, which Crowder describes as "organized criminality." (29:02)
• Crowder wants federal RICO investigations into these networks.

6. Federal and Political Response

• Shares Trump’s social media statement sending Tom Homan to Minnesota and referencing welfare fraud and Ilhan Omar.
  • "Additionally, the DOJ and Congress are looking at Congresswoman ...Ilhan Omar who left Somalia with nothing and is now reportedly worth more than $44 million." (31:22)

7. Critique of Right-Wing Communication Failures

• Highlights what he sees as poor, factually inaccurate statements from figures like Cash Patel and Kristi Noem, e.g., claims that you cannot legally bring a firearm to a protest.
  • "He has a second amendment right to have a firearm there. Nobody along the chain thought that." (40:34)
• Emphasizes responsible behavior for legal firearm carriers and that carrying does not waive the duty to obey law enforcement or refrain from obstructing officers.

8. Media Coverage and Misrepresentation

• Critiques CNN’s framing of the Pretti shooting, accusing them of removing important context (Protestors crossing the street, instigating events).
  • "If you were to watch that, you would assume that he was standing there on the sidewalk with his phone. But you give them an 'in' if you imply that he brandished a weapon." (38:40–39:57)

9. Organized Harassment of ICE

• Details how activists targeted hotels believed to be housing ICE agents, causing distress and possible harm to bystanders.
  • "They have an ICE tracking and ICE watching app. What about the rest of people? ...These protesters don't care. These people don't care. This is an organized criminal ring." (43:12)

10. Debate with Libertarian and Leftist Narratives

• Counters Libertarians like Dave Smith who call ICE "drunk on power," challenging them to propose real solutions for non-cooperative removals.
  • "How do you deport someone who has refused to self deport and collect $2,600? ...How do you do it when their hotels are being ransacked?" (48:07)
• Addresses the claim that ICE only targets violent criminals — says left/liberal protestors and politicians obstruct ICE from even deporting imprisoned rapists, traffickers, and pedophiles.
  • "[On sanctuary states:] Guarantee you, if you just took the rapists, pedophiles, murderers, thieves, violent criminals ...it would be far more than everyone who works in the West Wing." (57:32)

11. Illegal Immigration and the Law

• Reminds listeners that illegal entry is a crime, that enforcement aligns with global norms, and U.S. has been too lax.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Deportation Plan (17:14):
  "One month self deport, $2,600. We're just going into the prisons. Anyone who stops us from deporting prisoners who are here illegally: arrested."
• On Media Narratives (38:40):
  "They want to frame these people as the Gestapo. And it's like, oh, see what they're doing? They're lying to the American public."
• On Organized Activism (29:02):
  "This is organized criminality. ...These ICE agents are not just dealing with ...random protesters. They are dealing with an organized crime ring."
• On the Pretti Encounter (26:18):
  "What you need to prove is that these officers acted reasonably. ...If you hear the words gun yelled out and you hear a shot, I absolutely think that that threshold will be met."
• On Right-Wing Communication (40:34):
  "He has a second amendment right to have a firearm there. ...You do not have any constitutional right to blow loud emergency whistles in the face of federal officers."
• On Protestor Solutions (48:07):
  "How do you deport someone who has refused to self deport and collect $2,600 ...without it escalating?"

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Important Timestamps

• 05:14–06:17: Weather and crew situation set the show’s tone.
• 13:16–17:14: Outlines Crowder’s self-deportation plan.
• 17:58–22:47: First, then wider context of the Pretti/ICE incident.
• 25:05–26:51: Breakdown of the gun grab and sequence of the shooting.
• 29:02–30:37: Reveal of activist Signal chat operations, calls for RICO action.
• 34:19–40:40: Conservative/Republican communication failures and media games.
• 43:12–48:07: Hotel protests and the question of collateral victims, calls for harsh legal action.

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Language & Tone

Crowder’s tone is combative, sarcastic, and sometimes crass, mixing dark humor, mockery of both left and right, and direct audience engagement. He repeatedly encourages listeners to challenge his points (“Let me know if you think I’m wrong.”), but is uncompromising in his critique of what he sees as leftist manipulation and cowardice/failure on the right.

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For Listeners New to the Story

• The episode frames the ICE/Pretti incident as a consequence of broader dysfunction—political, media-driven, and activist-provoked.
• Crowder sees attempts to demonize ICE as deliberate, organized efforts to undermine immigration enforcement and create martyrs for the activist left.
• The show proposes tough, uncompromising but “reasonable” enforcement measures, critiques most mainstream political players, and aims to cut through what the host sees as manipulative coverage and unserious debate.
• Crowder positions his plan and critique as “centrist” among conservatives and urges for more competent, fact-based communication from right-wing spokespeople.

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Final Thoughts

The episode is bold in its opinions, often overtly partisan, and deeply skeptical of media and government motives. Crowder repeats a call for order: enforce immigration law, prosecute violence and organized interference, and don’t let narratives be shaped by incomplete or misleading media accounts.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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Welcome to the lineup live on Rumble, 9:00am Eastern to 7:00pm Eastern. Can you hear that? Hear that sound? That's the sound of mostly silence. We are on a skeleton crew today. Honestly, I don't even know who's on the lineup today because the weather that's been going across the country has a lot of people frozen in or frozen out. And people in the south tend to act in a way that is, and I use this term functionally retarded in the ice. It's really, really rough. I mean, I've seen a few accidents that absolutely shouldn't have happened. I don't even understand how they happen. How did that car get. That's a completely empty car. How'd it get over there? So are you guys staying safe? How's the weather where you are and should we leave Minneapolis to the Somalis? That's my question for you because what's going on with ice right now? Look, a lot took place over the weekend. I'm going to be clear with you. This is not as clear cut as Renee Goode, but there have been a lot of narratives, dueling narratives that are frankly incorrect. People don't really know what they're talking about. They're not taking the time to wait and do their due diligence. And I will say this, there have been some members of this administration that have definitely fumbled here. So we're going to go through this today. This recent one with Mr. Preddy, however it's pronounced and obviously it's tragic, it would be better if this man was still alive. But we do need to start figuring out, okay, how do we want to move forward here who has the stomach for it. And I do think there have been some missteps. I think a lot of people out there don't know that you can self deport and get $2,600 right now. So I'm going to issue a, I believe it's a four point plan on how we should deal with immigration. What I think we should Do. And you can let me know if you think that I'm wrong. But I will say this. Deport any and all ille, especially them pedophiles. Here's a quick spot. On with the show. And there I was, laying in a.

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[B]

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[C]

I know.

[B]

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[D]

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[B]

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[D]

How so?

[B]

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[D]

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[D]

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[D]

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[B]

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[C]

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[D]

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[D]

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[E]

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[B]

Yeah.

[D]

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[B]

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[C]

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[D]

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[C]

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[B]

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[B]

They took my keys. I just got the carpets. Glad to be with you. I see all the leering faces.

[C]

Why Lear?

[B]

I feel like I'm in a room filled with grown ups who were hoping for a snow day.

[C]

We already had two.

[B]

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[C]

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[B]

Just. Just the ridiculous.

[D]

The bonus is being here.

[B]

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[C]

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[B]

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[C]

I'm well.

[B]

How are you? Good. Your gate froze, so you got. You got frozen in.

[C]

I had to do some work.

[B]

Yeah, this was not supposed to be this long, and now it's going to be going into tomorrow. So we're in the southwest. Where are you guys? What's the weather like for you? So it's just a few. Just a few people here in the office today. Yeah, you got to drive in.

[C]

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[B]

Abbott said that we. By the way, he's a wheelchair guy. He said that we have a lot more. We have a much more stable infrastructure than last time.

[C]

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[B]

Come on.

[D]

He puts snow tires on it.

[B]

He puts some chains around his wheelchair tires. Sounds like the ghost of Marley. So anyways, we're here. It's 11am on a weekday. It'll be a little more relaxed. We'll probably be taking some more chat from you, but I want to talk about Minnesota, obviously. I was watching this unfold this weekend, and none of this is good. And I think that everyone could be handling a bit better. But I want to be clear, that's not a cop out. Like some people are saying, well, this is bad. We have to stop the deportations. Absolutely. Not more. We need to up them. But I think there's a way that we can do it where the American public won't be swayed by these extremists who want to martyr themselves. Let's be clear, that's what's going on. Before we get to that, just because we still need to have some fun, here's some footage of a bodyguard for an Egyptian businessman who. Well, it's making the rounds. And so it begs the question and it's. I will say it's on the line. Natty or not.

[D]

Definitely skips leg day.

[B]

It looks like Javier Mendez from American Kickboxing Academy. That looks like Carl Parisian. So of course the answer is not natural. But I will say not just steroid, but if you steroid use, but synthol. Are you guys aware of this? Synthol. Synthol is something that you can actually inject that doesn't make you any stronger. It just makes the muscle. Yeah. Look stupid.

[C]

It looks really. It doesn't look strong at all.

[B]

In fact, matter of fact, it just adds like wall. It just adds. I mean, it's oil that irritates it, so you get irritation, hypertrophy, but it's not real, so it's useless. So it makes you less mobile. The old myth of being muscle bound if you lift weights. That's not really true, but this guy actually is achieving it. I don't know how. He's a bodyguard. Whatever.

[C]

It just gets in the way of bullets.

[B]

Yeah, pretty much. Maybe. I don't know, maybe. Maybe it does help.

[D]

Maybe synthol absorbs impact.

[B]

Yeah, it could.

[C]

Who knows?

[B]

Who knows? But I do know that this is actually just another in a long line of Egyptians and how jacked they've looked throughout history. So look, they do have the genetics.

[C]

I love how a mummy still has tissue.

[B]

Yes. That's the last thing to leave you is your gains, bro.

[C]

After 3,000 years, these are 3,000 year gains.

[B]

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[C]

Their face to get micro abrasions.

[B]

Yes, well, my face builds back stronger. It does when I just. I hit it with a hammer. Which is why I assumed that you did that. While I was taking a nap earlier, I woke up and he was trying to help you. He was smacking me like he was an elf. Like he was a Keebler elf.

[C]

I was like one of my kids with a rock working up you over the head.

[B]

Your kid does try and kill me. We'll get to ICE in a little bit. Oh, by the way, I forgot about this. This was after being detained and released by ICE. This is a resident of St. Paul, Nasra Ahmed. I'm trying to remember what this clip is again. It's a skeleton crew. Let me see the clip.

[F]

I'm from Minnesota. I also grew up in Columbus, Ohio, but I also grew up here. And I was also raised here. I was raised in both cities. Both are well known Somali community.

[B]

That looks like Myron Gaines and a vending machine. A racist caricature of a Japanese man slash, vending machine behind her. What's the over under on the fact that some man gave her a fresh one? That's why she has that bruise. But let's continue. By the way, I want you to keep in mind what's most important. Rice and bananas. Let's go.

[F]

So I'm Somali. I'm proud to be Somali. To me, being Somali isn't just eating bananas with rice.

[B]

Okay, what is it then?

[F]

It's like. Yeah, it's, it's, it's an interesting thing. It's, it's very hard to describe what it means to be Somali and what it means to be American. Okay. But it's like a cultural fusion. It's kind of like the bananas and rice.

[B]

Well, yeah, but it's not just that.

[F]

People don't really see like, you know, it's a, it's a. It's, you know, people don't think, oh, you can eat bananas with rice.

[B]

Yeah, I do.

[F]

That's what it's like to be Somali and American. It's like that combination of banana and rice.

[B]

Right, we get it.

[F]

You're gonna get what? I mean.

[B]

Wait a second. Bananas and rice? No, she's an idiot. That's pretty much just what we're. Yeah, yeah, just.

[C]

Just an idiot.

[B]

I don't know why. She's like, she seems like she's cracked a code. Like, I know lots of people think you can't eat both a Banana and rice. No, we do. We're quite aware that bananas and rice. These are. These are foods.

[C]

Yes. That can be eaten.

[B]

That can be eaten. You can eat them together, or you. Or. Novel approach. You could eat them separately, but.

[D]

Or that's all you could eat.

[B]

Yeah, that's. That is. You could probably live off of bananas and rice. I mean, you know, after a while, you wouldn't be the fastest thing on four legs. I don't know how many bathrooms you'd be blocked up.

[D]

A lot of carbs and fiber.

[C]

I don't think you should do it.

[B]

What is this woman trying to. Why is she an ambassador of any kind? Like, I don't understand when someone says like, I know, look, it goes. Goes beyond the thing that I'm going to repeat nine times along with saying nothing else. Well, then how about you just walk up, say, bananas and rice. Bananas and rice. Bananas and rice. And I married my brother. Walk off. That's it. Be done with it.

[C]

In true Somali fashion. Did you see that? You see the guy behind the Japanese guy?

[B]

I don't know which one. Could be Korean, could be Japanese.

[C]

We don't know the Asian gentleman, the.

[B]

Oriental had, like, a Coke machine.

[C]

He looks like Baymax from Big hair.

[B]

Yes. Yes, he does.

[C]

His face just gets progressively. That frown gets lower and lower as.

[B]

She goes through the bananas and rice.

[C]

He's like, oh, this is making no sense.

[D]

Here's the beginning of the clip. He's pretty sad there.

[C]

And then I saw the head, the frown come in.

[B]

He's like, oh, by the way, those glasses are way too small for that head. Do you see? You can see the angle of the glasses. Look, show the glasses, the. What do you call them? The arms of the glasses. They're going out like those things. I'm amazed that guy doesn't have a giant Korean headache.

[D]

They're holding on for dear life.

[C]

Poor guy.

[B]

Anyway, the point is, we're not really getting the best and the brightest from the Twin Cities these days. Let's go to this really quick and by the way, the best way to stay in touch, download the Rumble app and follow me there, because you don't want to be beholden to the big tech overlords and their algorithms. Here's sort of the point in history where we find ourselves. Everyone knows that we have to do something about illegal immigration, about illegal aliens. People, by and large, agree with that. And across pretty much all races, you see more men who support deportation than women. But there's no surprise there. So we know that something has to be done. But people haven't really thought through what that looks like. And unfortunately, this sort of toxic sympathy, empathy has been used against us. There are plenty of countries across the world and I think that many Americans don't know this. You are jailed, you're put in jail if you are known to be an illegal alien. Did you guys know that? Not to mention legal immigrants in plenty of other countries, they are not afforded the same rights as immigrants are afforded here. They aren't afforded the same rights as citizens in their countries. For example, in Mexico, you can't show up at a protest. You can't own waterfront property though, if you grease the right palms, because it's Mexico, it's corrupt. We all know that. We have been very, very relaxed here in the United States and it's become a problem. We need to do something about it. Okay, what does that look like? And the people who are protesting and obstructing, they don't have any answers. And that to me is very telling. I'm gonna walk you through. Just yesterday, YouGov poll showed that a significant portion of people believe that illegal immigration is a serious problem. 62% among white people, 52% among black. It's still 50among Hispanics. And then it's 60% of men, 56% of women overall. Okay? So we know something needs to be done. And we also saw those polls not that long ago where people supported deporting folks who are here illegally. Got it. So what has been the left's game plan? This was the winningest issue of the election. They have been caught flat footed. And now of course, the goalposts have moved. I'll tell you exactly what it is that they do. They lie. Okay? They lie and obfuscate. They'll tell you that illegal immigrants are more law abiding than legal citizens. That's not true. They will tell you that illegal immigration isn't a problem. That's not true. They'll tell you that Joe Biden or Barack Obama deported more illegal immigrants than Donald Trump. That's not true. So they lie, obfuscate. Then step two is they'll obstruct. They'll impede officers from doing their jobs. Then step three is increase aggression. They will increase aggressivity as needed so that they can reach the final step, which is make martyrs either of themselves or of useful pawns. I am going to propose to you what I think needs to be done or what should have been done from the outset. I completely support deporting illegal aliens and not just Violent criminals, though, they should get priority. There should be a State of the Union address. There should be an address from the White House. Donald Trump, he should have done this in the outset and said, look, we're going to give everyone one month, illegal aliens. So the first step, we're going to give you all one month to sell your stuff in your house, get your affairs in order. And everyone out there, this is by the way, still available, but a lot of people don't know it. Everyone out there who's here illegally, you can self deport. If you don't have a criminal record on the CBP1 app. Okay, you can go there, you can register, you can self deport. The civil penalties will be wiped. We'll pay for your flight. $2,600. That is what is available right now. $2,600 and you can attempt to come back through the legal channels as everyone else. Okay, they should have said that on the outset to make sure that everybody knows. The reason I say this is because I have walked through this. You can go to the change my minds. I have had conversations with people where they will say, well, I agree, we need to do something, we need to do something, but it just doesn't look good. Okay, so we need to do something about this. You just don't like the way we're going about it. You can walk people down this path. Try this in real life.

[C]

Go.

[B]

Okay, so let's think what that might look like. Maybe the first shot could be, hey, you guys, I get that you're scared. Self deport. Here's an app where you can do it. There'll be no civil penalties and we'll, you know, we'll pay for your flight, maybe even give you a thousand or a couple thousand dollars. You can come back to the legal way. Every single time I've said that, people have either said, sure, that's reasonable, or even leftists have said, well, we're not even necessarily. You don't have to give them like money. But yeah, just make it easy. Okay, great, we're doing that. So what do we do with the people who don't? What do we do with the people who are not self deporting? They have all been notified. Here's the issue. Those who are here illegally know about this. A lot of the American people don't. And those in antifa, those who act as professional agitators, they are banking on you not knowing. So this administration needs to do State of the Union address, address the nation. All right, here are the terms. The CBP1 app $2,600 for anyone who registers self deports. We're going to give everybody one month now, every illegal alien in this country, one month to get your affairs in order. Do it. And during that period of time, we are only going to go after the illegal aliens in prisons. Okay? So we're not going to go after anyone in the street, but we are going to go into the federal and state prisons where they are housing illegal aliens and we're going to deport them first. The reason that's important is you arrest any governor or mayor who doesn't allow you to go into the prisons to deport people. That's important so that the American public understands it's not about anchor babies, it's not about dreamers. A lot of Americans right now don't know that ICE is not being allowed in prisons to deport people who are violent felons. That's the first thing you do because it lays the groundwork for the next. After one month. Now we're going after everyone who is not self deported and we are going to arrest any governor or mayor who is still trying to play the sanctuary city game. Okay? One month self deport $2,600. We're just going into the prisons. Anyone who stops us from deporting prisoners who are here illegally arrested. After one month, we're going after everyone who remains with a priority on criminals and we are arresting anyone who flagrantly disregards federal law. You'll still have protesters, but the American public. We'll know where we all stand. Does that make sense? Comment below if you think that's a reasonable plan. That needs to be the backdrop. That needs to be the context in which everyone views incidents like Renee Goode or what just happened this weekend. We're going to walk through these facts. We'll make the references available for you. Links in the description. Even though it's a skeleton crew today, this man, Alex Preddy, was 37 years old. You've probably seen this was shot and killed after a confrontation with ICE officers. Okay. We now know that he had a gun on him. Sure. That's not illegal. You absolutely have the right to carry a gun, especially if you're a lawful permit holder. I support constitutional carry. I know that's not where we are right now. That is not the issue at hand. To be clear, he was resisting arrest. That is an issue. He was impeding officers before that. That is an issue. These people actually went meaning this man and two women in question actually crossed the street to harass Arguably assault ICE officers. The key takeaway here is all of this is completely avoidable. We still don't have one example of people standing on the sidewalk, filming, protesting, not impeding, doing what we know is civil protest, taking part in that. We still don't have a single example of that. And them being shot or physically abused. We've not seen one yet. This is likely the first video that you saw, and the video that people like Tim Walls and Mayor Fry are hoping is the only one that you've seen. Here's the first one that was released. There you go. Looks like a nice officer pushing a lady. This guy comes in. It's Alex Preddy. So you will hear the gunshots for those who are squeamish, but there's nothing graphic. Okay? So if you watch that, people go, oh, my gosh, they just roughed some people up and then executed somebody that looks really bad. Got it. It's a game of time codes, and we're actually going to illustrate this tomorrow. We'll shoot a sketch and prove the point to you. We'll shoot a simulation. So we'll show you a clip where you can watch them. Well, clearly person A is guilty. Then we'll extend it. You'll go, well, clearly person B is guilty. Then you go, oh, wait. Clearly person C is guilty. And then you'll go, oh, none of this is real. I know this because I've worked in media. I know what they do. That's the first one you saw. Now, let's pull back. Little more context. The people around Preddy were clearly not only instigating, were clearly not only obstructing ice, but they were going out of their way to cross the street. And. And a cost ice, and these people had been doing it all day long. Here's the next clip. Remember you were told they were on that sidewalk? Nope. They're across the street, going to the ICE agent, blowing their whistle. There's Preddy filming. There he is in the street, waving traffic through.

[C]

Go.

[B]

There he is in the middle of the street. How long has he been doing this? All day. Well, we'll get some more context. Now. There's Alex grabbing one of his friends in a headlock. Don't fully understand that. That lady gets pushed. He goes to grab her. Okay. And now when they grab him, he obviously resists arrest. He is refusing to go down. He is trying to get up. We now know that this man had a firearm on him. And then you see everything obviously escalating. That's a horrible situation. It's A quagmire. It's a melee. Lot of confusion. The did you just do. Now, the reason that matters is because the goalposts were moved from. This was a man who was simply filming on the sidelines. ICE officers ran across the street to push a random lady. And he was a good Samaritan. Well, you know that's not true. So now the conversation is centered around, okay, there are ICE officers on him. He had a firearm in his holster, Sig P320 with a threaded barrel. And someone took the gun out of the holster. So they're saying, well, the gun was taken off of him. He was disarmed before he was shot, therefore, it's an execution. Here's a slowed down clip. And you tell me if you actually believe for a second that everyone involved in this sticky, dirty, confusing situation would have known that this gun was removed from this man. Let's watch this. Here you go. See that man, apparently right there in the gray jacket, grabs the gun. He notices it. I see the other guy right there in the green jacket, sees the gun. He's looking his sunglasses. He's not sure. Someone yells, gun, gun, gun. We don't know where the first shot was fired at this guy.

[A]

Point.

[B]

And there's a reverse shot too, where he's reaching.

[C]

When that guy in the back gets up is when he has the firearm pulled.

[B]

Right.

[C]

So it's even later in.

[B]

Pulls it out. There's some discussion now because it's one of those sig P320s that may or may not have a tendency to go off on its own. It could be a negligent discharge. It could be an accidental discharge. We don't know. It could be that. We don't know which firearm it fired the first round. Yeah. What we do know is that as he's being disarmed, someone yells, gun, gun. This could very easily be someone seeing him take the gun, go, gun, gun, gun. Saying he's got the gun. But someone hears the word gun. If you look in a split second, you see a holster and you hear gun. You can assume that there's a gun. We also see that the other man is grabbing something. Could be a phone, could be a magazine. We don't know.

[C]

Yeah, it looks weird. You can look where Alex's hand is at that moment in the slowed down video when they say gun and the first shot is fired. If you're looking at him trying to subdue him here and then your eye pans back. He's reaching to his hip or his hand is around that side?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It very clearly looks like a situation where you have identified that there's a gun, there's a shot that's been fired. Everybody, the officers are doing what they're trying to do and backing, trying to get distance so that they can assess and fire on the suspect. If he has a gun and they fire thinking he has a gun and it's just been shot at us, thank God it didn't hit us. That's their mind.

[B]

Well, here's really the threshold that's going to need to be met. You don't need to prove that you acted correctly, 100% correctly. What you need to prove is that these officers acted reasonably. Meaning was there a reasonable concern that an armed man who was resisting arrest, who had a gun on him, could pose a threat? If you hear the words gun yelled out and you hear a shot, I absolutely think that that threshold will be met. The one man who removed the gun, if he discharged it, could be and should be charged with a negligent discharge. That's not the same as murder.

[C]

No.

[B]

That's what started off the chain reaction. This is unfortunate. Yes. Was this handled? Ideally, no. But I sure. If you are going to make the case that these officers did not handle this well, you would certainly have to grant that the man in question, Preddy, deliberately went out and instigated and handled this equally poorly. There's no good to come of this situation, to be clear, and I do blame. The blame rests squarely with the governor, with the mayor, who have instigated this, who have vilified ice, who, by the way, have said these ICE agents aren't trained. We'll get to that. These actually, these ice, they're not new recruits. One of them has been in there for eight years, I believe, the other one for 10 years. We'll get to that. There's no way that the situation doesn't escalate. And it's exactly what they want. And even more than that, we know that there are people out there hunting ICE agents. So Cam Higbee, who's been doing some great work lately, he infiltrated a signal group where ICE Watchers, as they're referred to, they specifically organized to impede federal officers. I know this because this happened in Utah when we did it with Antifa. Ben Shapiro was speaking and they handed one of my producers an ice pick and a Taser and they were going back to their. Their trunks to get sawed off shotguns. We got into their application and this is how many of them organized back then. It wasn't signal. It was something else. So if you look at this group, it exists to find ICE officers in the middle of doing their job and impede and obstruct them and make it difficult. Some of the members in there include, by the way, some Minnesota administration members or officials. This hasn't been confirmed, but there certainly seems to be some inside information here that makes it pretty easy for them to target.

[C]

It's very organized, too. This isn't just a bunch of random people that want to go out and protest. And it's like this signal thing. It's got a set number of people that can be in there. I think about a thousand people with different designations based on an emoji, essentially, on what they're going to do, different zones that people can be in, and then also auto deleting functions to make sure that they can't get this information and get it out. Obviously, Cam, getting it is phenomenal, but this is not just random protesters. There seems to be a lot more going on here.

[B]

This is organized criminality. Yeah. To be clear, these ICE agents are not just dealing with deporting illegal aliens and random protesters. They are dealing with an organized crime ring. I hope you guys understand that. Does that change the context? An organized crime ring. And then you'll see the proposals and I see this on scene, and they go, well, we definitely can unmask ICE agents and demand transparency. You think that's a good idea? When you see this, you know, these people and their families will be targeted. There is no doubt. They will be killed.

[C]

They will be killed. They'll be lynched without a trial. That's exactly what people want. On the left, they want these. Hey, why aren't their names out there? The Tim guy that you debated, the puka shell guy. I forget his last name. Tim.

[B]

The Bulwark guy. Yeah, he was that Miller.

[C]

Yeah, Tim Miller. Tim Miller's like, yeah, why aren't their names. We know that their names are out there. I'm like, what, do you want them to just be shot in the streets? You know, they aren't gonna get a fair trial. People aren't gonna ask them what actually happened. People don't care if they saw a gun or heard a gun firing and tried to defend their own lives. They're just going to kill them. That's what's going to happen.

[B]

Well, I can tell you this. Obviously, Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And obviously we've had a lot of close calls. I can tell you how on edge we are. If we're doing a change of mind going on campus. I can only imagine the volatility of being an ICE member. Yeah, you absolutely are a target for violence, to be clear. There's no doubt about that. And so I think that the feds should absolutely investigate this criminal ring. Maybe they can even use rico. I don't. They should be able to build a criminal case and everyone involved should be arrested and should be brought to trial. President Trump posted this on Truth this morning. This is good news. He's a friend of the show. Hope we have him on this week.

[G]

He said, I am sending Tom Homan to Minnesota tonight. He has not been involved in that area but knows and likes many of the people there. Tom is tough but fair and will respond directly to me. Will report to me separately. A major investigation is going on with respect to the massive $20 billion plus welfare fraud that has taken place in Minnesota and is at least partially responsible for the violent organized protests going on in the streets. Additionally, the DOJ and Congress are looking at Congresswoman quotes Ilan Omar who left Somalia with nothing and is now reportedly worth more than $44 million. Time will tell all.

[B]

Thank you for your attention.

[C]

I love how he just mentions random. By the way, the number her wealth is going up. It was in the 30 something million.

[B]

Range last time it was 25 million and 30. But he probably knows something that we don't.

[C]

Her portfolio is appreciating. I have no idea.

[B]

Maybe it could be, I don't know, she could be getting some hot tips from her brother slash husband.

[C]

Brother. Husband.

[B]

Yeah. This is right now. I still think that we need to wait for information, obviously, but this was a quagmire. I think the only correct take is this was a quagmire but was completely avoidable from the standpoint of those obstructing ice, of those committing crimes, multiple crimes committed before this happened. And that's exactly what the left wants. The left wants martyrs. Yeah. And it's very important that Donald Trump, President Trump brought up the fraud taking place in Minnesota because, boy, has the attention been taken off of that.

[C]

Yeah, no kidding. And I think partly they, partly they would like it to be taken off of that. There's a number of officials that definitely want that. Really the correct take here too is that nobody was being murdered in the streets. Hasn't happened. There are two situations where judgment calls had to be made to protect lives because people didn't understand that there are consequences to their actions when dealing with federal officers. And I think these guys were DHS technically and not ice. Right. Doesn't matter. They're there to do the same job, right? People don't understand the consequences of doing this. When people's lives are on the line, you're like, I'm just yelling. They don't know that you've got to.

[B]

You are at zero risk. They don't know ice, dhs, not only right now cozy in your house or if you're at your office, but if you are driving through the Twin Cities right now and you happen to find yourself at an impasse where there are ICE agents, you are still at no risk. Do you understand that? You just go, oh, wait, sorry. I'm going to work. Officer, what's the best place for me? What's the best thing for me to do? You tell me. They'll go. Get out of here. All right, great. Now, that's not saying be a bootlicker, back all blue. What I'm saying is nobody is at risk. Nobody has been at risk. Nobody has been harmed who has not been actively involved in obstructing, in impeding or rioting. It hasn't happened. It doesn't mean that it was a good shoot. It doesn't mean that this situation is one that's easy to sort of parse. It doesn't mean that. But it is really straightforward. Don't impede, don't obstruct. Don't break the law. Don't try and undo the vote of the American people who did vote for this. Don't screw around with law enforcement for no justifiable reason. And you'll probably be okay.

[G]

Doing it for too long.

[B]

Going to cause good trouble. Now, this brings us to bad takes or bad communication on the right. Yeah, no surprise here. Cash Patel, he leads the way. He's not very good at his job.

[C]

He's first at sucking at this, I would say.

[B]

He's bad at his job.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

At this point. And his statement here that you have no right to bring a loaded weapon to a protest? That is factually inaccurate, and it's the wrong take now.

[F]

I mean, thousands of people are marching through Minneapolis. They are targeting the Border Patrol. I mean, it feels like the rhetoric and the. The protesting is only ramping up. What is your advice to the people right now who are outraged that this is a second killing at the hands of Border Patrol in two weeks?

[E]

As Christie said, you cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple. You don't have that. You can break the law and incite violence. We will, of Course, always protect your First Amendment speech. And if you peacefully protest, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But you have seen a trend here, not just in Minnesota, but across the country in these protests turning into violent scenarios and people attacking law enforcement. That's when you go over the line and that's when law enforcement steps in.

[B]

Yeah, that's just wrong on just multiple levels. By the way. Tune in weekdays, 11am Eastern. That's when we're live. If you're watching this as a clip live, engage with us and we take chats from you. We still actually do live shows. I'll get to Steve Miller to what he wrote. He said that a would be assassin tried to murder, murder federal law enforcement and the official Democrat account sides with the terrorists. Okay, that's also not good because people look at it and they don't see a would be assassin. If you oversell it, then it makes it really easy for people to say that you're lying. Yeah, first off, cash, you're wrong. You can of course bring a loaded firearm to protest. As a matter of fact, I guarantee you there are plenty of conservatives in the Twin Cities right now who are armed because they're concerned about the rioters. We'll get to them. Trying to storm a hotel in a little bit would be assassin. Then you better have some pretty clear documentation to show that this guy is a would be assassin. Here's what they could have done. Say, look, of course this is an unfortunate situation and it wouldn't be this way if we weren't dealing with a sanctuary city, a sanctuary state, if we weren't dealing with the escalation from Tim Walsh, anything to take the attention off of the rampant fraud from his constituents, by the way, who he enabled and abetted. This is a man who came out who had a firearm on him and was impeding and obstructing law enforcement for a long period that day. And if you are legally carrying, of course, you all know that it is very important, especially in a scenario like this, a high pressure situation where tensions are high, where tensions are elevated to be responsible, disclose it to the officers and work with them as best you can. You say that people wouldn't go, well, he was a lawful carrier. People can go, well, he certainly didn't bring out his gun and threaten the officers. It's like they didn't have a team huddle.

[C]

Yeah, well, he's saying like Kristi Noem said. So I don't know if she was the originator of the stupidest statement I've heard on the second amendment ever. Or what? But you can't bring a loaded firearm to a protest. Right? I didn't think that that was a part of it.

[B]

You should have corrected it. See, right now on cnn, it's breaking news, which is not breaking news. Yeah, this is crazy. Video contradicts DHS account. Let's see. What? No, I'm sister. Semi automatic handgun.

[H]

That's not what video shows. It shows federal agents approach Pretty. All he has in his hand is a cell phone, not a gun.

[B]

That's actually.

[H]

You see him moving one protester away from agents while agents shove another to the ground.

[B]

See the start point to help the protester. They just did it in real time.

[H]

Deploy pepper spray. Three, wrestle him to the ground. More join in. From another angle, you see one agent punching him in the face with a canister of pepper spray in his hand. Pretty is on the ground under them. Nothing appears in his hands. You can see an officer in a gray jacket walk into frame.

[B]

This is the other angle here.

[H]

Seconds later, agents shout, he's got a gun. One agent removes a gun from Pretty's belt. He steps away from the scene carrying a firearm seen here in his right hand.

[B]

Yep.

[H]

Turns out state authorities say Pretty has a license to legally carry a gun, but you never see him draw it. Instead, an agent draws his gun while standing above Pretty.

[B]

Look at that wonderful hit job from the media right there. All right, we can bring down cnn. See how I just showed you? They say they protested Pretty. No, they were the ones who approach. Sorry, Protested approach. They approached Preddy. No, Preddy was protesting. Preddy approached Those women Absolutely. Went out of their way to cross the street and arguably commit assaults against the officers with whistles in the ears. That was going on for a long time. They don't show that part. If you were to watch that, you would assume that he was standing there on the sidewalk with his phone. But you give them an in if you imply that he brandished a weapon. Right. And I don't like the language of he had a semiautomatic handgun with. It's irrelevant. Yeah. The man was obstructing ice for a. For a long period, and so were these women. And he had a firearm on him, didn't disclose it, and violently resisted arrest. And we really like to avoid these situations. So we would ask everyone, please, you can protest. Stay where you're allowed to protest on sidewalks. Don't block roadways. Don't target ice. Don't commit assault against officers of ice because no one who has avoided doing those things has been harmed by ICE in any way. There are no examples of that yet. They're just not good at communication.

[C]

No. And they're playing right into the left's narrative because they want to frame these people as the Gestapo. And it's like, oh, see what they're doing? They're lying to the American public, telling you that he brandished a weapon and that he couldn't have it at the. I thought these guys were second Amendment. They give them every opening in the world. And listen, whoever gave Kristi Noem that information should be fired. Kristi Noemi, Theoretically, I'm okay with her being forced to resign. If somebody comes up to you and gives you that information, you should immediately go, we have a second amendment. What are you talking about? He couldn't have a firearm there.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Cash Patel, that. What is he.

[B]

I don't think they thought of these issues.

[C]

Cash Patel should go, Wait a minute. Christine Ohm.

[B]

You're wrong.

[C]

He has a second amendment right to have a firearm there. Nobody along the chain thought that.

[B]

You have a second amendment right to carry a firearm. You do not have any protected right to obstruct federal law enforcement. Correct. You do not have any constitutional right to blow loud emergency whistles in the face of federal officers who are carrying out a job. You have no right to do those things. This has nothing to do with the second amendment right. And if you are carrying, first off, you should really, really be treading carefully if you are carrying and there's law enforcement around. Anyone out there, comment below. You ever been pulled over while carrying? It's pretty. You keep your hands at 10 and 2. Soon they go, hey, officer, I just want to let you know that I do have a concealed carry permit and I do have a firearm on my person. Or you tell them where it is in the car. Sometimes they'll say, hey, could you please tell me where it is? Nine times out of 10, they go, thank you for letting me know. Don't touch it. Just please grab your license and registration. That's pretty much been the experience of everyone here. Wouldn't dream of carrying an officer come up to my window and go, why are you pulling me? Why are you pulling me over, asshole? In jerking and reaching for my. Like I'm grabbing a tissue, huh? No, I wouldn't do that. We need to be able to delineate between what it is that's permissible and what is not. And I just don't think that Cash Patel and Noam, I don't think they are conservatives like you are no, Everyone I speak with agrees. Everything we're saying here, this is not outside of the mainstream. I don't think Cash Patel is a second amendment guy the way you are. I think Kristi Noema is probably like one of those old fuds who has some hunting guns but doesn't really understand it. They need better communicators. I really hope that Tom Holman does some press. I would love to have him here on the show. And here's something else, too. Hey. If this is a volatile situation, do you think that guaranteeing law enforcement gets less sleep, do you think that's going to help? Because that's what's been going on. They tried to do it with Vance, but they messed up and they got the wrong hotel. But these violent rioters have been attacking the hotel where they believe they suspected that ICE officers were staying. And they have been doing this nonstop. This is what these people are dealing with. By the way, if you don't do this, you won't be at risk. And you know what? Pause really quickly. Let's say there's a handful of ICE agents in there. What about the guy or the woman who's in town for a business conference, just getting some work done and needs to catch a flight the next day, Needs to get some sleep. Maybe someone who's up for a big promotion and has a big presentation the next day think he deserves this?

[D]

They don't care about that.

[B]

They don't care about any of their fellow Americans. That's the thing. That's why they have an ICE tracking and ICE watching app. What about the rest of people? What about the people who want to get some sleep? What about people who want to live in streets where there is law and order? You think that whole Home2 Suites is filled with only ICE agents? They may not even be there depending on the night because they're smarter than these guys. These protesters don't care. And do you think. Do you think they would care about the collateral damage if they broke a window and some woman had to go get stitches? They don't care. These people don't care. This is an organized criminal ring. Let's continue.

[D]

I wonder if. Sorry. I wonder if the police responded to home. Two Swedes calling the police on.

[B]

No. Yeah. It doesn't seem like they are destroying our sign. Right. This is the problem. Is a collusion taking place from the left. You want to say Gestapo? How about the police not showing up to protect the business? Right. That's being ransacked. Yeah, I think that's pretty corrupt. Let's keep watching. Are you cursed? And the media will go militarized. Well, what do you think happens if they're not there at the entrance? What do you think happens? Think there are any other apartments? Nearby are hotels where disrupting the peace may affect their sleep.

[D]

Where's the SWAT team?

[B]

Yeah. Now, see, to avoid more situations that could escalate, I think that they should pepper spray those people. Pepper ball, grenade. Right away. Are you guys. Are you guys staying at the hotel? No. That's what I would like to see. Yeah, you gotta start it right on the outset. You gotta set the tone, boys. You gotta set the tone. What do you think happens if those people aren't there standing guard? Hey, do you think maybe they misidentify someone in the halls who they think could be ice? Do you think that it's more likely or less likely that an innocent person just staying there could be harmed? No one talks about this. We just talk about the flashpoint where something goes wrong. And granted, plenty of things go wrong. How about the escalation to that point? Because none of this happens with a governor who follows federal law and a mayor. Yeah, none of it happens. Instead, Governor Walz decided to bring in his guard to pass out donuts and donuts and hot chocolate. I really think that the guard should all be federalized at this point. But here you go. It's almost Valentine's Day. We get a shot of those.

[D]

Don't.

[B]

There we go. Thank you all.

[C]

Chris, do you want on the end?

[B]

We're just here helping out criminals. Yeah.

[C]

Where were you on this? And maybe we'll have a clip of this later, but one of the guys at the hotel in. At the front there, you saw two of them at one point, but then it becomes one, and he's bleeding out of his mouth. Has to pull down his mask a couple times to spit out blood. He's got blood on his hands. Whether his hands are injured or not, I couldn't really tell. He's basically saying, like, where are the cops? And he's there by himself. Yeah, basically trying to defend this. But here's the thing. You said misidentifying really clearly written on his chest is Bureau of Prisons.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Not even an ICE officer. I have no idea what his function was there, but at the same time, those guys apparently were in the building. There's a lot of details we don't really know yet, but either way, nobody was there. It's. It's the clearest picture. One guy protecting the entrance from everybody. No help from the Cops at all.

[B]

You know what would be great too? Arrest a handful of certainly the most violent disruptors. Arrest them and get their, get their interrogation out as quickly as possible.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Where you ask them like, so what is your opinion on ice? What do you think we should do with illegal aliens? What is your opinion on ice? Going into Minnesota prisons and deporting them. What is your opinion on the Department of Corrections? You will find out very quickly that these people are Marxists who don't believe in any deportations, who believe in open borders and who believe that all prisoners are political prisoners. They are anti cop, they are anti federal law enforcement, they are anti America, and they no doubt are socialists. You will find that out pretty quickly. And so then people can go, oh, oh, I get it. They're not just stopping what they see as an injustice. They want to tear the whole system down while blaming you for not trusting your institutions. And here's a take. You see this quite a bit libertarian take. Dave Smith wrote that. I just, I absolutely disagree. And it's incumbent upon people who bitch about things to give an answer. I've not heard them give answers. He wrote, I'm an immigration restrictionist. I believe that we have the right to remove any and all people who entered our country illegally. Great. Also, ICE is out of fucking control. A bunch of pussies drunk on power going around intentionally escalating violent interactions and intimidating U.S. citizens. Reasons by sleeping at home. Two suites. That's playing into the left's game and just picking their crescendo. Not everything else that led up to it. Are they doing that when they're sleeping? They create these tragic situations and after this gigantic show of force, they won't deport a fraction of the illegals who entered under Biden. This is simply not worth it. Well, that's also one of those things that black pilling that nothing works. I mean the border is effectively fixed. Right? Right now the border crossings are down to a statistical. Basically zero compared to Biden. That's a big. That's a big thing. And yes, there are about two or three times the amount of self deportations than there are from actual ice. So here's the thing. Okay, so they haven't done enough. All right? So they need to do more Dave or people like Dave. How do they do it? How do they do it going into cities that are sanctuary cities? How do they do it going into sanctuary states? How do they do it when there are ICE watcher apps out there? How do they do it when their hotels are being ransacked how do they do it? So it's not enough. They're not deporting enough people, but they're drunk on power, escalating violent situations. So let me ask, how do you deport someone who has refused to self deport and collect $2,600 in free flights in Pasco? How do you collect those people and deport them without it escalating? And then how would you do it so much more that it would be worth it to you? Dave Smith. So that it's significant enough because, you know, Biden let a lot in. This is one of those examples of it's really easy to just be a critic and offer no solutions whatsoever. Again, I'll repeat mine. Let the entire American public know. An address from the White House. Self deport. You guys have one month, $2,600 CBP1 app. We are only going to go after during that month, prisons, actual prisons, and deport every single illegal alien in prison. We'll arrest anyone who obstructs that. After one month. We're coming for everybody and we're arresting anyone who impedes federal officers, including mayors with sanctuary cities and governors with sanctuary states. That's my proposed solution. I don't see a lot of solutions coming from people out there. Just go, well, it's not enough deportations anyway. Plus, the way they're doing it is dicks. How do you think you deport someone who doesn't want to be here? Have you. I mean, I don't understand, especially people who are fathers. What do you do if your child is acting out and you tell them to stop and they say no? How do you deal with that without it escalating? And I don't mean beating them. I mean giving them a timeout, taking a toy away, escalating the consequences. That's how it has to go. Yeah, but if you complain that both not enough is being done and we can't escalate, what you really mean is you want to be the intellectual on the sidelines who bitches about everything and offers no solutions because they haven't heard them.

[C]

No, no solutions. And also he's misdiagnosing what's going on. These guys aren't running around drunk on power, Dave. They're running around with their heads on a swivel because they're being hunted by people. Now, it may be a nuisance to you, but they don't know when the next brick is going to fly at their head or when a protester is going to show up with a weapon as Some of the people who took to social media said that they should do after this shooting. They're out there with no support from local cops, and they're out there with people like the mayor Fry and also Governor Walz saying, you should get out in the streets. You should impede these guys. You should blow whistles. You should make their lives difficult. You should go out there and be Minnesotans. Yeah, that's what's happening, you idiot.

[B]

By the way, this is also what happens. The Indiana Pacers guard Tyrese Halliburton wrote that Alex Preddy was murdered. That has 22 million views. I wonder if he posted the obstructing and directing traffic in the streets toward ice all day. And then Natalie Portman. This is kind of funny because people on the left are saying she's a Zionist, so she can't be trusted. But she delivered this word salad. A little bit more articulate than bananas and rice, but was wearing an ice out pin. Let's hear this brilliant young lady communicate her thoughts.

[F]

You are wearing your ice out and be good pins today. So I just wanted to see a few. If there's anything that you wanted to say about why you chose to wear those.

[I]

Well, this is obviously such a joyful community celebrating film here, and we're so excited to be showing the gallerists here. But we're also at a moment in our country's history that is quite devastating.

[B]

Is it?

[I]

And I think it's really. It's impossible not.

[D]

I didn't expect you to ask me about my pins.

[I]

The brutality of ice and how it has to stop brutality. And also the great.

[B]

So how do we deport people?

[I]

Community that Americans are showing right now, showing up for each other, protecting each other, destroying hotels, fighting for their freedom. But it's a very. Yeah, it's a bittersweet moment to celebrate something we're so proud of on a backdrop of our nation really in pain.

[B]

Yeah, she's an idiot. But after spending some time on the street Post interview, she did develop a different perspective.

[I]

Where is this love? I. I can't see it.

[B]

I can't touch it.

[I]

I can't feel it.

[B]

That's because they're all high and committing assault. And so I say this because the lie travels so quickly where you still have people. My God. Who today believe that Kyle Rittenhouse went off shooting black people. Did you know that? A lot of people still believe that. Like millions of people in this country still believe that. Yeah, there will be millions of people in this country who believe that Preddy was just standing on the sidewalk before he was accosted. That's why I show you that guy from the Pacers. That's why I show you Natalie Portman. And then this person who is a very popular streamer, moist, critical showed a fundamental misunderstanding or lack of education on pretty much every level in addressing the realities as it relates to illegal immigration. And I'll disabuse you of these notions very quickly afterward. This point that they're trying to beat.

[J]

Into the empty minds of a lot of people that are trying so hard to justify it is that the only people people being arrested and targeted by ICE are rapists and pedophile.

[B]

We didn't say that.

[J]

Which is just not the case. There definitely have been rapists and pedophiles that have been snatched up in all of this many. And those rapists and pedophiles that have been caught and taken away, that's good. They shouldn't be out there breathing the free air.

[B]

Great pause, but that's not.

[C]

Yeah, but.

[B]

But the left doesn't say that's good because they protect them. And they won't even let us go into the prisons to take out those people. They have sanctuary cities, they have sanctuary states which precludes any federal law enforcement from taking anyone out. And you have seen protesters blockade and protect sex traffickers, pedophiles, human traffickers. Let's continue all that's happening here.

[J]

You could also right now march into the White House and arrest everyone in the White House and you would get a ton of rapists and pedophiles. Why isn't that happening? If the goal is getting rapists and pedophiles off of American soil, thrown in the slammer, taking them away from society, why is it only just walking through the fucking streets of Minnesota trying to do it?

[B]

It's not only.

[J]

It's significantly more rapists and pedophiles. If you took ICE and brought them to the White House and administration is actively covering up a massive child sex trafficking operation and letting tons of evil people get away with this, tons of clients. So if the goal is to get this kind of evil out of this country, why would you not start with what is provably a spot that has so many of them? Also, that belief of like a secret pedophile ring was a very popular one among Trump voters for the longest time. And now that it has been proven beyond a shadow about shadow of a doubt to be real legitimate reality, they are now just ignoring it. They have been proven correct that there was a huge pedophile ring of these powerful corporations, politicians. But because some of their favorite politicians are potentially wrapped up in it, they just want to drop it and forget about it. Absolutely unhinged, by the way.

[B]

Okay, so there's no actual substantiation, no references that he's provided whatsoever for his claims. I don't know if you know this. Anywhere from 12 to 20 million illegal aliens under Biden alone. If you were to go through the entire West Wing White House, you'd get a few hundred people, assuming that every single one is a child rapist or pedophile. So that matters. Then we also look at the numbers, okay, of the millions of people who are here illegally, illegal aliens, and I'll provide all the references. They're one and a half to five and a half times more likely to be incarcerated than lawful citizens. Now, I know people say, well, aliens or immigrants are more law abiding. No, no, no, you're obfuscating there. You're trying to say that legal immigrants are more law abiding than people who are born here. That may or may not be true. The truth is it's very difficult to study the numbers as it relates to illegal aliens because we don't know how many there are. We do know based on the capture rate, based on the processing rate, 1 1/2 to 5 and a half times more likely to be incarcerated than lawful citizens. Illegal aliens as a demographic, and to be clear, 100% of people who cross the border illegally, they have committed a crime. Let's also go through this. Hey, here's another reason. Because illegal aliens cost the taxpayers 150 billion to $451 billion a year. Again, it's pretty hard to estimate because they don't necessarily sign the guest book on the way in. I know this number very well. It's the back of my hand because it used to be $118 billion a year. When I went through the Build the Wall changed my mind. Then you have politicians who are not allowing feds to go into prisons and jails. This is not just a couple of places. It's California, Illinois, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Washington. Guarantee you, if you just took the rapists, pedophiles, murderers, murderers, thieves, violent criminals who are in the prisons and jails in those states and deported them, it would be far more than everyone who works in the West Wing. Again, assuming that all of them are pedophiles and rapists. This is an unintelligent person. This is a person fundamentally incapable of thinking critically. And they are an Ideologue. So they are trying to tell you, look, just, just arrest the pedophiles in the White House. Okay, great. That doesn't solve the problem. That doesn't solve $400 billion a year wasted. That doesn't solve the problem of people living in sanctuary cities and by the way, legal immigrants who are here and even some other illegal immigrants, by the way, who are here and still have to live under the rule of violent gangs. We saw that with Aurora. We saw that. By the way, when we were in Austin, we had to blur out a lady's face who was asking me how she could report it to authorities. This idea that these people are all just here seeking a better life and it's of victimless crime. It's not true. It's not even true for people who cross this border illegally if they aren't human traffickers, because they are very likely being brought here by human traffickers. For every person you see making a bed, working as a maid, working on your lawn, guess what? There could be 10, 20 more who were good looking enough or perhaps desirable enough that they just were put through that system. They went through the seaving. You're going to be a human. You're going to be a human blow up doll. Now, usually minors, thousands who disappeared under Biden's watch. Remember that. So you have to, you have to decide where you start off with. And invariably if you ask these people, they actually won't have a solution. Well, sure, it'd be great to get rid of rapists and pedophiles. Great. So you would support arresting any of the governors here who don't let us go into the prisons to get them? Well, I don't know. Hold on a second. You said it'd be a good thing to get rid of the criminals. So what do we do with California, Illinois, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Washington, by the way, California, New York, most populated states, what do we do there? Can't go into the prisons. There are no solutions. These people don't believe in deportations. They don't. They don't believe in actually enforcing our immigration laws. I will give it to you one more time. My proposed solution address the nation. We're going to give you guys one month to get your affairs in order. You can Register in the CBP1 app. All civil infractions, fines, we're just going to wipe that clean. Here's $2,600. That's what you can get right now. You can do it right now. If you're here illegally, leave. Come Back through the legal way. We're only going for the prisons. Anyone obstructing, we arrest you, including mayors and governors. After that one month, we're going after everybody here illegally. And anyone obstructing, including governors or mayors, you will be arrested and we will invoke the Insurrection act and we will federalize the guard wherever appropriate. You guys let me know what I'm missing where I'm getting this wrong. Here's the next narrative that we're dealing with right now. And I think before, before we get to Rumble Premium, if you are not a member, you can click that button right there, join up. It's $99 annually, or you can try it for $9 a month. None of this happens. The free show goes away if you guys don't sign up. But you get 100% more show, you get everything ad free, and you get, I mean, more content than you could watch in a lifetime. Under Rumble Premium, it's your best one stop shop. If not, let us earn your viewership tomorrow. And outside of that, you'll be going on to watch Tim Pool for free. So we give you more free content than ever. But this is very telling to me. Illegal immigration reached its highest point right under Biden, okay? And ICE arrests, they basically reached their lowest levels in the agency history. Because Biden, at that point in time kneecapped ICE basically said, don't do your job. We're going to make it an infraction to do your job. So those who are meant to go after violent criminals, those who are meant to go after illegal aliens, costing the American taxpayer hundreds of billions of dollars a year, okay? Biden said stand down at the same time as he upped the IRS's employees, about 87,000, allocated $78 billion to hire 87,000 new IRS employees. Think about that. You know, I've said this in the past. They wanted to give immunity to criminals, aid and abet criminals, and spend more money criminalizing you, auditing you. When people talk about our money going to Israel or Ukraine, and of course we should stop all that. There's more to this than that. What does that tell you about the priorities? What does that tell you about the left and who they're looking out for? Ice Stop. We need $78 billion designated to audit you. That should tell you the two different worldviews. The left wants you to be criminalized, and they want to turn illegal aliens into a voting base. And that's why they trot out other narratives and they'll move the goalposts like, here's the new one, right? Hey, ice these officers. We just heard that from Dave Smith. They're completely untrained right now. These are just a bunch of guys out there half cocked, untrained, have no idea what they're doing. So it's time for claim, truth. All right, here's the first claim that you're going to see. ICE agents right now are completely untrained and unqualified. And then, of course, we'll get to the truth. We believe in law and order in this state. We believe in peace, and we believe that Donald Trump needs to pull these 3,000 untrained agents out of Minnesota before they kill another. Go pull a horse. And we're up here.

[J]

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