India, Arson, and Ezra Klein: All Your Mid-Week News!

Summary

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Louder with Crowder: “India, Arson, and Ezra Klein: All Your Mid-Week News!”

Episode Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Steven Crowder
Main Theme: Examining U.S. immigration (both legal and illegal), diaspora remittances—especially to India—the political and economic consequences of these flows, broader left vs. right culture clashes, media manipulation, and select news stories (arson, country music activism, Reddit/Ezra Klein, Chicago protests).

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Episode Overview

Steven Crowder and his crew tackle a wide array of current events through their signature irreverent, confrontational lens. The central focus of this episode is a critique of U.S. immigration policy—with a specific spotlight on legal pathways and remittance flows to India—arguing that even so-called "legal" avenues, particularly H1B visas, are detrimental to American workers. Crowder connects these topics to broader trends: cultural conflict, economic priorities, and the perceived unwillingness of elites (political, tech, and media) to engage meaningfully with dissent.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Immigration Game” and Remittances

• Opening Rant (00:00–06:28)

  • Crowder suggests both legal and illegal immigration systems are manipulated to disadvantage Americans in the workforce.

    "Too many conservatives try and say, no, no, I don't have a problem with legal immigration. I do. As legal immigration exists. Also is violence on both sides." (A, 01:36)

  • Dismantling typical pro-immigration arguments (“who’s going to pick your lettuce?”), Crowder insists Americans can fill these roles if compensation is fair.

• Remittance Deep Dive (08:42–12:01)

  • The U.S. loses ~$200 billion annually via remittance payments overseas; India is the biggest recipient ($135.4 billion in 2025).

    "India has set a new record in diaspora remittance, receiving nearly $135.4 billion in the financial year 2025...remittance now accounts for over 10% of total current account inflows." (A, 09:21)

  • Of that, $32 billion came from workers in the U.S. (2024 figures).

• Remittance Dynamics & Policy (12:01–17:38)

  • Crowder frames Indian government policy as actively incentivizing emigration to benefit from dollar remittances.

    "India benefits from taking part in a...you could say orchestrated invasion of this country. They also game the H1B visa system with lobbying staff placement." (A, 15:49)

  • Discusses Trump's hike of the H1B visa fee and argues for a high (25%–50%) remittance tax to discourage money outflows, claiming only Americans lose in this system.

    “Any money that you come here and you make sending out to another country...the remittance tax needs to be multiplied by 10. But I'll take four. At least 25%.” (A, 17:18)

2. Media, Tech, and “Elite” Collusion

• Reddit & Open Borders (26:18–39:17)
  • Crowder criticizes Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian’s defense of illegal immigration (and his mother’s undocumented status), highlighting how such tech leaders push for policies that prioritize their interests, not American workers.

    "Illegals...like your mom are a huge part of the problem, and they don't deserve special treatment..." (A, 30:00)

  • He attacks Reddit for both stifling right-wing voices and fostering unhealthy echo chambers.

    "Reddit is one of the biggest reasons for [us being divided in echo chambers]." (A, 34:06)

• Ezra Klein/Vox Whitewashing (59:21–end)
  • Critique of right-leaning podcasts for giving a pass to media figures like Ezra Klein, whom Crowder blames for biased coverage and attempts to deplatform dissenting conservatives.

3. Music, Messaging, and Cultural Shifts

• Critique of Country Star Zach Bryan (23:11–25:36)
  • Crowder lampoons Bryan for his anti-ICE messaging—mocking the left’s embrace of “inauthentic” country music.

    “I gotta tell – is that authentic country sunburn or My Chemical Romance under eye makeup?” (A, 24:12)

• Broader Pop Culture Satire
  • Crowder and crew riff sarcastically on changing musical norms and the genre’s supposed new superficiality.

4. The Arson That Wasn’t—Blaming MAGA

• South Carolina Judge’s House Fire (49:08–56:42)
  • The mainstream media and prominent Democrats immediately blamed “right-wing arson” for a judge’s house fire—before any evidence existed.

    “Today someone committed arson on the judge's home, severely injuring her husband and son. No evidence whatsoever.” (A, 51:47)

  • Subsequent investigations reveal no evidence for political motivation or arson, but retractions are rare.

    "You should see that as a headline everywhere. Right, but what about the retractions?" (A, 49:29)

5. Left-Wing Violence & Double Standards

• Crowder underscores what he sees as a disparity: rapid condemnation of perceived right-wing violence, but leftist violence is excused, justified, or ignored.

  “We are not the same. We are not going to find common ground...we are nothing like you.” (A, 53:31)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Limiting Legal Immigration

• "We want more legal immigration. We don't. That's not what we want right now. What we want is proper immigration and that by its very definition should be limited." (A, 00:53)

Remittances and American Loss

• "None of this benefits the American people. And we're the only country that does this and allows it completely unfettered. $200 billion." (A, 09:00)

H1B Policy, Trump, and Tech Bros

• "You may not like Donald Trump, and I didn't like his stance on H1Bs, and I certainly don't like Elon Musk's stance on H1Bs, and I certainly don't like Vivek Ramaswamy's flip flop on H1Bs. But in this case, Donald Trump is the only one to do this, and he stands nothing to gain." (A, 14:36)

Satirical Moments:

• On Indian train fight viral video:
  • "The incident, by the way, has inspired India's newest children's game. Rock Em Sock Em Hindus." (A, 07:13)
• On Reddit and Ohanian:
  • "The guys up at the crack of dawn in the Home Depot parking lot looking for work, or the women hustling their homemade food on the corner are exactly the men and women we want contributing to this great nation. We shouldn't be rounding them up at gunpoint. I ain't got a good brain." (A quoting Ohanian, 28:05)
  • Crowder interjects: "How are they contributing?...Let's change contributing to building." (A, 29:29)
• On Chicago Mayor and sanctuary policies:
  • "You're the frog in boiling water at this point. Which, which part of this pisses you off the most?" (A, 21:35)

On Amnesty and Immigration Reform

• “Reagan's amnesty was a disaster. It was a failure. We don't like that about Reagan. It legalized 3 million illegals…after that, the illegals arriving in the United States increased by 481%.” (A, 31:08)

Cultural/Societal Division

• "When we're talking about the attempted assassinations, the violent assaults of conservatives, of Republicans. Well, we only address it for what it is when it's very clear...the left can't do it. When not only their side commits the act of violence in the name of progressivism, liberalism, leftism, they can't condemn it." (A, 53:03)

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Noteworthy Segments & Timestamps

• Legal vs. Illegal Immigration, Crowder’s Stance: (00:00–06:28)
• India Remittance Analysis & H1B Discussion: (08:42–15:30)
• Satirical “Rock Em Sock Em Hindus” Segment: (07:13–08:13)
• Remittances: Suggested U.S. Policy Solutions: (15:13–17:39)
• Tech Elites, Reddit, and Ohanian’s Story: (26:18–39:17)
• Country Music, Pop Culture Satire (Zach Bryan/ICE): (23:11–25:36)
• Media Arson Rush-to-Judgment, Lack of Retraction: (49:08–56:42)
• Violence, Double Standards, and Culture War: (53:03–57:48)
• Critique of Ezra Klein/Vox and Conservative Media Softball: (59:21–end)

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Conclusion & Tone

Crowder’s team delivers a show brimming with bombast, sarcasm, and direct confrontation—combining cultural commentary, in-depth (if polemical) policy breakdowns, and sharp media critique. By weaving together news stories (remittances, viral fights, media narratives about violence, online censorship), they assert a central thesis: today’s policies and coverage are stacked against “real Americans,” driven by collusion among governments, global elites, and mainstream/tech media. The tone is unapologetically confrontational, often irreverent, and tailored to reinforce their loyal audience’s worldview.

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Transcript

[A]

And it was used. It was already used from Costco, but they sold me like, hey, welcome to the lineup. Live on rumble, 9am Eastern to 7pm Eastern. You don't need to change that dial. It is a collective of independent broadcasters all under one roof. And hey, it's all free today. We're going to be talking about quite a bit, but here's the macro. There's a game being played. There's a game being played and it's being played against you. And that's the immigration game. We're not talking about illegal immigration. And this is one thing. Tell me if you've noticed this. You can comment below. You kind of have some remnants of the old sort of conservative approach where people say, yeah, we want more legal immigration. We don't. That's not what we want right now. What we want is proper immigration and that by its very definition should be limited. So illegal immigration is a problem, but the systems that exist and the game being played on legal immigration. For those on audio, I'm doing bunny ears quotes. Do we have a signing? No, only when I watch hbo. HBO have to watch everything in black. American Sign Language. It's its own language. A lot of this. It'll make sense when he. It'll make sense when you see the teaser. You are being. Look, we've been told for a long time, hey, who, who's going to pick your lettuce? Americans. We'll do that if it pays fairly. We always did. Who's going to do your coding? Apparently Americans are too dumb to do that. Even though we have the best universities and the best engineering programs, the best tech programs here. And then what about truck drivers? Why do we need people coming from third world countries to do truck driving? That is right in the middle there. It's a job that you don't need a college degree to do. Anyone who's willing to do the work and able to get certified can do it and make a good living for their family. Well, that's also not for Americans anymore. We'll get to H1BS and the Reddit founders supporting open borders, but there is a game that's been played and we've tried to focus on this as well as the problem with illegal immigration. Too many conservatives try and say, no, no, I don't have a problem with legal immigration. I do. I do. As legal immigration exists. Also is violence on both sides. I don't know if you know this, but the left jumped, jumped, jumped at the house fire. That judge in South Carolina, it turns out, no. So the left has egg in its face. But they'll never have to hold themselves accountable. On with the show. Psst. Honey, wake up. There's someone in the house. Huh? Wake up. There's someone in the house. Salma Hayek went back when she was the 30s. 37. No. Wake up. There's someone in the house. What? There's someone in the house. Why don't you wake me up? Where's your gun? Let's see. Well, hurry. I am hurrying. The fingerprint thing isn't working. It's not working. Why are your fingers so greasy? There's no grease on my fingers. It's chocolate. I told you to stop eating chocolate in the bed. Hey, guys. They're in here.

[B]

Dad.

[A]

Don't come in. We have a gun. Don't win.

[B]

He got a gun.

[A]

No, he doesn't.

[C]

Fat ass got chocolate over his fingers.

[A]

Can't get it open. Okay. Use your thumb. I can't. I put lotion on before bed. Sit back. We've got a gun.

[B]

We've got a gun.

[A]

Sorry.

[C]

Don't begin.

[D]

Lotion hands.

[A]

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[D]

He is always with you.

[A]

Yeah, no. We don't want to be disrespectful. We're. We're covering Indians today, not Muslims. So ignorant. So ignorant.

[D]

Uncultured.

[A]

Uncultured. How dare you? Anyway, if you want more of this, it's a live show. Weekdays, 11am Captain Morgan, CEO. How are you?

[B]

I'm well, sir. How are you feeling? Better.

[A]

I am feeling a little bit better. Couldn't get any sleep because I slept for like 24 hours straight. And then last night, I got my first meal and my body was like, wake up, you silly little bit.

[B]

That's not nice.

[A]

No, it's not nice, but my body's not very kind to me. That's what happens. It's true in your old age. And by that I mean mid to late 30s. And Friday, November 14, he is going to be at the Chalet Theater in Enumclaw, Washington. I hope I have that right.

[D]

Yeah, you do.

[A]

Enumclaw.

[D]

Enumclaw. Yeah. For those who don't know, if you ever seen the movie, the video, Mr.

[A]

Hands.

[D]

Remember that viral video, Mr. Hands with the horse and a man? He died.

[A]

Oh, let's not leave with this, but yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't get into detail yet.

[D]

It was there. Oh, it was there.

[A]

Wonderful, wonderful.

[D]

And they're all horse loving folks and can't wait to see him.

[A]

You went to Dinesh d' Souz route right off the bat. Going right into it.

[D]

Well, it's a little bit of history for you guys.

[A]

Thank you. Hey, he who does not know history is doomed to repeat it.

[B]

Not that one.

[A]

All right, we have a lot to get to. We're gonna be talking about the immigration scam today. And that's what it is. That is what it is. But before that, let's talk about the mostist equalist culture. India. Three girls, one seat on an Indian commuter rail. What happens?

[D]

Thought it was going to be belly dancing.

[A]

Horseshit. World star. World star. Bali World star. Let's go. My sideburn.

[D]

So much hair.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

Oh, that was like a smack.

[D]

Wow.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

This is a lady holding a baby behind them.

[A]

I see women being smacked, but where is the man? There's a man's job. Never send a woman to do what a man should do. I know. You know damn right. The incident, by the way, has inspired India's newest children's game. Rock Em Sock Em Hindus. They fight, they flick their wrists. Who will win, Samira or Munasami? Go Samira. No, Munasami. Yeah. Munasami wins. Rock Em Sock Em Hindus. Get yours today. On toy shelves everywhere.

[D]

Oh, come on, Samira.

[B]

Why did the head go sideways when it popped?

[D]

That actually wasn't a commuter train. It was the shuttle bus from my local Costco.

[B]

Only on Saturdays.

[A]

You think when you hit the. The Rockam Sock of Hindus, when you hit it, does the head not go up? It goes. And then it poops. Karate fighters. Do you remember karate fighters? Oh, it's like rock and Mosakam robots. Except they did twirly kicks and stuff. You spun a knob.

[B]

You remember?

[A]

I think I said rock and.

[D]

But they're Asian.

[A]

I brought it my Christmas pageant as a kid because you could bring board games. You know, when you're waiting for your turn to outscream your fellow classmates and you know Remember, Remember, I had a little chest plate. Guys, comment below. I had a little chest plate. If you kicked the chest plate. And I had one where the chest plate was slightly indented. Noodles. So basically you couldn't. You couldn't beat it.

[B]

So you cheated.

[D]

So it's like. It was like a real life you.

[A]

Yeah, I also used a weighted slammer when I shar them at pogs.

[B]

Oh, come on.

[D]

Look like the Hulk and the thing.

[A]

I'll. Oh, yeah, it was a lot of. We can find a commercial for that. Anyway, that's all we're here to talk about. So, speaking of remittance payments. Rackham. Sock. I'm Hindus. Look, if you were to guess.

[B]

Appreciate you tying that together, guys.

[A]

It's no joke.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[A]

If you were to guess, how much money do you think the United States loses in remittances? Meaning money being paid out from people here to other people in other countries. That's what remittances really means. When we're talking about remittance payments here, how much money do you think the United States loses every year? Guess in the comments. Okay, don't cheat. Pause it if you have to. Take your time. The answer is $200 billion.

[B]

Oh, not bad.

[A]

$200 billion. And the left keeps telling you, right? Okay, hold on. That has nothing to do with this fund. And you know that revenue that goes to foreign aid doesn't come from the same. Yeah, sure, we get it. But when you add it all up and it's over a trillion dollars in waste, fraud, abuse, what illegal aliens cost the taxpayers, remittance payments. When you add it up. It only adds up if you start adding it up. And we did. And none of this benefits the American people. And we're the only country that does this and allows it completely unfettered. $200 billion. And I know what you're thinking. Nope, it's not just Mexico. Outside of Mexico, who do you think? Which country is benefiting the most from you? The American workers loss. India has set a new record in diaspora remittance receiving nearly $135.4 billion in the financial year 2025. 14% jump from the previous year, according to RBI data. Remittance now accounts for over 10% of total current account inflows. India has been the biggest recipient of diaspora remittances for more than a decade now. That brings us to this week's Eye on India. What's that smell?

[B]

Oh, you know what it is, because.

[A]

I know some new viewers coming in from change my mind. But trust me, this, this is what we do every day. So let me give you a few key facts here. And all references are available links in the description. We do it with every show. I encourage every creator out there to do the same. So you can fact check us on this key fact number one here. India receives more remittance than any country in the world. So overall. So from 2024, there was a report. $118.7 billion in remittances.

[D]

It's 118 cowboy stadiums.

[A]

I'll just have to make. I don't know how much a stadium costs.

[B]

About a billion, typically. Okay, we spent a billion.

[A]

Money well spent.

[B]

Well, yes, sure.

[A]

Do they allow cricket?

[B]

No.

[A]

So $118.7 billion in remittances. Okay, about 25 to 30% or around 30 something billion dollars. 32 billion in 2024, I believe, came from the United States. India, $118 billion. $32 billion from the United States. Hey, I know what you're thinking. Hey, that money could probably be better used here. Yes.

[D]

Correct.

[A]

They Collect. India collects 14.3% of total global remittances.

[B]

It's almost like it's their strategy that's the problem too.

[A]

This is a game because I know people love to use that old George Carlin quote, it's a big club and you ain't in it. I think that that can sometimes be lazy because it's just easy to sort of paint the elite, those in power and just blame them for all your problems here. You do have at least two governments working together. You have the Indian government incentivizing their, their citizens to come work and steal jobs from Americans, jobs that you very easily could do, many jobs that you want to do, right? The low skilled labor you were told Americans wouldn't do. Then you were told, oh, the really highly skilled jobs, the engineering jobs, the tech jobs you can't do. And then somehow we ended up with also truck drivers and factory workers. Basically no jobs are reserved for you in this country. So the Indian government is incentivized to send people to abuse our immigration system because they make more money off of Indians working in the United States, sending money home. And then of course, you have those in power in our government who are beholden to corporate lobbyists who want cheap labor. Okay, none of this benefits you. If someone wants to argue. If the remaining libertarian who still has a subscription to Reason magazine is watching right now, please comment. Let me know how this is good for the American public. And by the way, the best way to follow me. The best way to not be beholden to any censorship or out download the Rumble app. Follow me on Rumble. You'll get automatic updates or notifications when we're live. You don't get a bunch of spam notifications. Key fact number two, H1B visas, no surprise, are a huge source of these remittance payments to India. So according to this analyst, Swaminathan Padmanaban. Oh, my God. Pretty good. Swaminathan Padmanabad. Say it right, Padmanabhan. We roll the W swarm up under Indian H1 and check the references. Indian H1B holders sent 20 to $25,000 home annually. Now, in September, Trump signed that executive order raising the H1B fee from $2 to 100,000.

[B]

I think it's $2,000, not $2.

[A]

Oh, sorry. $2,000. Crazy. Sorry. I don't know why I'm getting $2,000. 200,000. But let's be honest. 2, 2000, that's a rounding error at that point, considering the cheap labor. Much lower rate than Americans. Yes, Admonish me. Rightfully so. Good news is you can check the sources in real time. I'm an idiot. Now, from 2000 to $100,000. Jeez, it's a 50 times increase.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

See, I can do the math.

[B]

Right? Fantastic. Great job.

[A]

Americans can do math.

[D]

I think that's right.

[A]

So if that rule does persist. Right. India stands to lose $6 billion in remittances annually by the year 2031. It'll take a while to go into effect. You may not like Donald Trump, and I didn't like his stance on H1BS, and I certainly don't like Elon Musk's stance on H1BS, and I certainly don't like Vivek Ramaswamy's flip flop on H1BS. But in this case, Donald Trump is the only one to do this, and he stands nothing to gain. But you do. Can you recognize that, respect that when people say he's not doing everything he promised? Well, this is something that he didn't even necessarily promise.

[D]

It's kind of a middle ground, too.

[A]

Yep. Yeah, it's. Hey, sure, if you want to bring in a. And it should be no problem. If you need to bring in someone who is so skilled that you can't find an American to do it, you're probably paying that person quite a bit more than $100,000. You're probably paying them half a million dollars. Right. They would be a CEO. Executive level.

[B]

This is what he promised to do according to the bros that we talked about yesterday. This is economy. This is making sure that Americans have jobs and spend that money here in the United States and drive our economy. How is that not doing exactly what he said he was gonna do?

[A]

Well, the podcast conservative bros, they just want lower marginal tax rates.

[B]

Well, they're wrong on everything they said. I'm just saying, even according to their rules.

[A]

I agree. Key fact number three, this again has all been a concerted plan with the willing participants in our government, but largely by the Indian government. So the Indian government uses these remittances to offset trade deficits and to build foreign exchange reserves. So 3% of India's GDP, it comes from remittances. Think about that for a second. Almost nowhere in the natural Indian world can someone make the kind of income in India that they will make here in the United States. So they send more money back. India benefits from taking part in a, I guess you could say orchestrated invasion of this country. They also game the H1B visa system with lobbying staff placement. We've covered that. You can go check the links and the references. We've covered this quite a few times starting in 2026. This also, by the way, we're looking at, and this is not enough, remittance taxes would be 1% in the one big beautiful bill. So 1% remittance tax. But at least someone's going to try doing something. I have been championing this for a long time, but far more than 1%. You almost might say like 50 times more. They just get the best of both worlds. And the only people who get the short end of the stick are Americans, because Americans aren't leaving to go work in India en masse. That's the problem.

[B]

Like a cap or something like that. Like 50% tax. Every single thing. But I'd say there's a cap on how much money you can send, and.

[A]

Then it's taxed.50 cents on every dollar taxed. And I think, by the way, the remittance tax needs to be multiplied by 10. But I'll take four. At least 25%. Any money that you come here and you make sending out to another country, you know what, and that solves a big problem because you know who's not doing that? People fleeing communist nations. It's your job to improve your own country, not to take from ours.

[B]

Right?

[A]

That's it. And here's what I will say, too. Just think about this for a second. You know that the band aid fixes don't work because then It's a technicality. They go, well, that's actually cruel. If you just lean into it and it's so full throated. Language test, civics test, you're taxed. The company's punished. If they pay less than the median salary, you don't get to send money home. You have to provide proof of contributing to your community in some capacity. It leaves no doubt what people going, oh, there's a new immigration policy in town. By the way, I really get how people used to complain about the lighting being too dark. When you put it side by side.

[D]

Yeah, it was pretty.

[B]

It happens.

[A]

People like, did he. Did. Did he get work done? No, I just. I'm not lit like a scary campfire story. It was my own choice. I was like, I don't like bright.

[D]

Lights like church plays.

[A]

So here to talk about this, because we also want to provide you with both perspectives, some balance. You're here to talk about all of this is our remittance correspondent, Pajit Patel. All right. Welcome to the show, Mr. Patel.

[D]

Thank you for having me, Mr. Crowder.

[A]

No, it's Crowder.

[D]

Okay, okay, Mr.

[A]

Proud Boy. Whatever. Okay. My pleasure. Let me ask you about this problem of remittance here right now. But, no, there is no problem. Yeah, yeah, there is a problem. A big problem. Maybe a more pressing problem. Are you, by the way, standing on railroad tracks? That's right.

[D]

I am catching a train.

[A]

No, that's really dangerous. You're actually on the tracks, Pajit, because.

[D]

That is where the train is going.

[A]

Right? And it looks like it's coming right at you. How about you worry about you, and I will worry about me. Well, right now, I'm worried about the freight train barreling down at you. No statement. No, no, no, no. The train is coming right at you, but not to you. I want to talk about remittances. Fine. Whatever. You're gonna get smoked in 3, 2. But no, I smoke you. No, Tim, cut it. I don't want to see this. I don't want to see. All right, well, Toolman, set up the zoom calls in the future. Oh, my business. Let's set up the audio, too. A little. My arm, too. And my other arm. This isn't family. It's not. It's not family list. Yeah, that's enough. Sorry. We had the mic. Yeah. I'll wrap this up like it's going well. Let me just add this up for you. The United States and you. When I say the U.S. i mean, because often people say the government will pay for it. That means you and it doesn't mean you all Americans. To be clear, the left, the Democrat party is the party of the super wealthy. Billionaires, the too big to fail. The Jeff Bezos, the Bill Gates, right. Those who run Google, Alphabet, YouTube, Disney, and those who don't pay any federal income tax. The depending on the year, 43 to 47%. Last we checked, I believe it was 43 point something percent. They vote Democrat. Lower middle class Americans all the way up to wealthy, not including billionaires, vote overwhelmingly Republican. You, the American worker, the one who makes this country actually work, you are the one footing the bill. Let's look at some of this money. Up to $451 billion, right? Is what you are paying what it costs you. Illegal immigration alone, $451 billion. $200 billion in remittances annually. And then not to mention the number anywhere they don't quite know. Anywhere from 250 to $521 billion in annual government fraud. That doesn't mean wasteful spending. It doesn't mean discretionary spending. It means vapor gone. We have no idea. That's at least $1.1 trillion annually. You can talk about the slush funds, where the money comes from and how it has to be appropriated. We're talking about over a trillion dollars each year that benefits the American working people. Zero percent. Do you feel like you're in boiling water? You're the frog in boiling water at this point. Which, which part of this pisses you off the most? Which one? Is it the illegal immigration? Well, you can't necessarily blame those people for taking advantage of the system, but it's wrong that our government has allowed it. Is it the remittance payments where people actually take money from this country that should be given to you to do a job that you are qualified and willing to do in sending it to a third world? Or is it just the, you know, half a trillion dollars in fraud that I don't know. Your guess is as good as mine. Which one bothers you the most? None of this benefits you. That's the reason for Donald Trump, that's the reason for the mandate of the masses. And the left is still fighting it. They don't get it. They don't understand it. They don't know the storm that is going to be coming for them. They always thought it was going to be this civil revolution where there'd be a socialist uprising and instead this. And I want us to avoid a civil war, to be clear. But if it does happen, if there is going to be an uprising. It's from the American contributors, the American workers who have been screwed. And they're not asking for a handout. They're just asking. We're asking you guys to stop the handouts. Which brings us to Reddit retards. But before that, last week, country singer Zach Bryan. And I use the term like this is the problem with country, too. It's just. It's just tractor rap, where they just fake being country for street cred.

[B]

Not very representative of the American people anymore.

[A]

Yeah, when I say it's more folky.

[D]

Too, by the way.

[A]

Yeah, I guess it's country ads and tattoos and spacers.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

Yeah. Sleeveless shirts.

[A]

I'm a country boy who shops at Hot Topic. Those are still around. Hey, what are your thoughts on Nightmare Before Christmas? Shut up. I hate you. So, Zach, Brian released his new song Bad News, and it has this blatant anti ICE messaging, which you know the left is happy about because they love country. Beyonce does. Now, Ryan, who served in the Navy for eight years, is a country superstar. His music has reached 16.2 billion streams on Spotify. And just last month, he set the record for the largest ticketed concert in U.S. history. Listen to his new song.

[D]

My friends are all degenerates but they're all.

[A]

I got the generational story of dropping.

[D]

The plot I heard the cops came cocky mother, ain't they.

[A]

And I come bust down your door Try to build.

[D]

A house on bills no more But.

[A]

I gotta tell Is that authentic country sunburn or My Chemical Romance? Under eye makeup, I think he was.

[D]

Slapped in the face.

[A]

Notable at this moment, Notable almost as notable as the inauthenticity of Tim McCraw and Faith Hill. So in response, the DHS dropped new banger of an ad featuring Brian's other song revival. Lord forgive us, my boys and me, we're having an O. Nervous.

[D]

Some color women and someone steal.

[B]

The Bible.

[D]

For the sa.

[A]

Me in.

[D]

A bottle of be.

[A]

That's just. Yeah, even you listen to that song like, oh, it sounds.

[D]

Still feeling it.

[A]

I'm sorry. Oh.

[D]

Oh, sorry.

[B]

You done?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I'll be sure to take you to Hot Topic later.

[D]

You know where it is.

[A]

Your wallet's been needing a new chain. Yeah, it's true.

[D]

I need some new mascara.

[A]

And your pants are lacking some pockets, my friend. They're too blue. They need to be black. This leads us to another retarded take on illegal immigration. We've covered legal immigration. Now let's go to illegal immigration. We've highlighted in the past some of Reddit's most retarded users, but. Well, today, Harry, we're going straight to the top. Hang him. And I just love it when those in positions of power expose themselves to be what we always knew they were. It's so fun. The Reddit or one of the Reddit founders and Mr. Serena Williams. Alexis.

[D]

Wait, what?

[A]

Ohanian. Ohanian. Am I saying that right? Ohanian. He posted this. Not on Reddit, but on X. But he's one of the founders of Reddit. He said as the son. Okay, as the son of an undocumented immigrant, my mom overstayed an au pair visa for years before marrying my dad, a US Citizen. First off, pause. I know au pair is one of those new terms like au pair and doula that people use to just sound like they're more cultured, but it's my understanding is that it's a different name to cover for the fact that dad is probably banging the nanny. You guys comment and let me know if I have that about, correct?

[D]

Yeah, I think it depends on how good your au pair is.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. And she's got nimble fingers. My mom overstayed an au pair visa for years before marrying my dad, a US Citizen. It's deeply personal. Reddit wouldn't exist if ICE had come for her. Well, don't. Don't present me with a better butterfly effect.

[D]

That would be a dream.

[A]

I do think border security matters. No, you don't. No, but it shouldn't come at the cost of crushing lives. You mean like being sent back to the country whose flag you wave? A sensible amnesty legalization policy, like what Reagan offered in 1986, like that's gonna work on us now? Could strike a better balance. I do love that we don't have the deity worship of Reagan anymore. Good president. There you go. Wasn't perfect path to citizenship for law abiding, hardworking undocumented immigrants. After background checks, waiting periods, and meeting clear standards. Or overstaying work visas. Order and accountability. Your mom didn't do any of those things. She overstated visa for an unskilled job. Order and accountability. Those who don't step forward for the pathway should face enforcement under due process.

[B]

Due process?

[A]

This isn't open borders. It's smart borders plus humane immigration reform. The guys up at the crack of dawn in the Home Depot parking lot looking for work, or the women hustling their homemade food on the corner are exactly the men and women we want contributing to this great nation. We shouldn't be rounding them up at gunpoint. I ain't got a good brain.

[D]

Home Depot doesn't open till 9.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Also, they often don't show up until after that. Also. Okay, how are people showing up at Home Depot to work jobs that Americans worked for a very long time and are willing to work right now? By the way, I worked in construction. I was horrible at it. Or women hustling their homemade food on the corner. Did we have roadside stands? We used to before people. Yeah, we almost always did back in the day.

[D]

What about cities that have lawsuits against restaurants? Have lawsuits against cities like in San Diego where they have illegal immigrants selling cheap food outside restaurants who can't pay their bills now?

[A]

Right, yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, the left also opposes. They oppose food trucks. Right. Because the rest. Because the culinary union. But if it's an au pair who overstays her visa. The macro point is, how are these people contributing to this great nation? How are they contributing to this great nation when they are simply doing jobs or work that Americans were doing and are willing to do, but doing it cheaper because they come from third world hell holes and, you know, yeah, that money's enough. How are they contributing? Not just contributing. Let's change contributing to building. We think that's fair. How are they building up this great nation? A nation that fails to move forward, to continue to build itself, crumbles.

[D]

Contributing could be negative, too.

[A]

Sure.

[D]

In the situation that I just described, a lady selling tamales outside of a restaurant that also sells tamales. Yeah, you're contributing, but what are you contributing? The foreclosure of this business.

[A]

Listeria.

[D]

Listeria, Wow.

[A]

I should have gone with E. Coli. It's a more. It's a more matrix. I went with an esoteric foodborne illness. Okay, let me address this here, Mr. Ohanian. I want to make sure. Alexis Ohanian, you just made the case against yourself and your au pair mom. Illegals. Illegal aliens like your mom are a huge part of the problem, and they don't deserve special treatment no matter how well they fold the bed sheets. In 2024 alone, there were 540,000 visa overstays. Visa overstays make up about 40% of illegal aliens in the United States.

[D]

Yeah, and in 2023, my mom overstayed her welcome at my house, and I handled it the same way this administration would.

[A]

Should have sent the guest book. Mom, she's fine.

[D]

She's fine. I mean, she can't walk anymore, but that's kind of a good thing.

[A]

Checkouts at noon, late checkout at 2. If you're a Gold member you knew the rules.

[B]

201. You're out the window.

[A]

Yep. Bye.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

Lady with a small creature souping up.

[D]

I sent her the bill.

[A]

I can't believe that was a kid's movie, too.

[D]

I sent her the bill for the glazier, too.

[A]

Good, good. Because you're doing the right thing. It's hard. I appreciate that about you. Here's my second point. Reagan's amnesty was a disaster. It was a failure. We don't like that about Reagan. It legalized 3 million illegals. Now, back then, conservatives were under the guise because they still were guilted into things through this false sense of empathy, because we thought that people who were coming here illegally were just seeking a better life and that there weren't really any negative consequences except for them. So, okay, if we give them a path to citizenship, then we can kind of reform the system instead. After that 86amnesty bill, the illegals arriving in the United States, it increased by 481%.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What a lot.

[B]

I mean, that's.

[D]

So you called it amnesty. It's like, yeah, come on in.

[B]

Yeah, incentive.

[A]

Exactly. We didn't fix it. We didn't fix it. And it's been political football ever since. That and no fault divorce, which was Reagan as governor, were his biggest mistakes. I believe he said his biggest regret was no fault divorce. You comment, let me know which one you think is worse, amnesty or no fault divorce, they both have had irreparable effects on the country. Third point here, Amnesty, Mr. Reddit, is not humane at all. As a matter of fact, I would argue it's inhumane because it encourages illegal immigration and that comes with human trafficking.

[B]

Right.

[A]

In case people don't remember, more slaves right now on Earth than ever in recorded human history. You're shielded from it because you live in the United States, where we fought a bloody civil war to end slavery. Still goes on in the Middle east, still goes on in Saudi Arabia, still goes on in the uae, still goes on in pretty much all countries in Africa. The very limited amount that takes place here as far as human trafficking, often sex slavery is due to illegal immigration because we can't monitor it. So under Biden, 300,000 unaccompanied minors, at least. At least that we know of, crossed into the United States. The Trump administration found 13,000 of them. Thank you very much.

[D]

That's the people. When you say F ice, Right. That's when you. When you're singing songs about how ICE sucks, that's who's finding them, by the way.

[A]

Right. And the libertarian argument as well. If we just open the borders, then there wouldn't be any coyotes and sure, yeah, I'm sure that MS.13 and drug cartels are going to straighten up and fly.

[B]

Right. Okay.

[A]

And here's the other thing. This Ohanian, if I'm saying it right, he tried to justify again illegal immigration because of Reddit. So I want to address that specifically. He said $38 billion market cap today. And that's just my first company. Oh my God. Please tell me there isn't going to be more undocumented immigrants. Can have some pretty productive kids. Really? You're the example. Okay. It sucks. We'd be much this country and the world would be better off without Reddit as a thing. You know how right now in our universe it's a thing. If there's a parallel universe where it's not a thing, that is a better universe because it's a bad thing. Number one, there'd probably be fewer school shooters.

[B]

It's true.

[A]

Right then. Yeah.

[D]

Every time we see some stuff on Reddit like, oh, I found out how.

[B]

To use this gun on Reddit.

[A]

But it's also when people complain about us being divided in echo chambers. Well, Reddit is one of the biggest reasons for that. In 2016, the CEO of Reddit, Steve Huffman, admitted to changing posts made by Donald Trump supporters that would be considered propaganda by most.

[B]

How do you do that?

[A]

It's just going. In 2020, Reddit banned the Donald, which was the Donald Trump Reddit there, citing abusive posts. In 2021 they banned the no new normal, the anti vaccine sort of Reddit there where they were talking about MRNA vaccines they said was due to brigading. In 2023 they banned the louder with Crowder Reddit citing moderator code of conduct. I wish I had known because we had nothing to do with this Reddit, it was several hundred thousand members deep. It was incredibly civil. It was the most civil place on Reddit. You could have replaced the moderator. And then yesterday they banned the sale of like firearm parts, meaning accessories, things like that, just in case you didn't know if they were dyed in the wool. Leftist. But they do allow Reddit. For example, the Reddit refer to it as forms, but they're just known as Reddit, the Luigi lore where people post all kinds of supportive posts for the alleged murder. Right, Luigi Mangione, the guy who killed a video recorder. Yeah. There's Reddit trans, which allows posts like this if you're mature enough to go through the puberty of your assigned gender at birth and you are mature enough to choose not to. Okay, now do choosing. What's for dinner? This is the silliest argument ever. If a child is mature enough to, you know, go through puberty that was assigned. Do you mean live? You're literally saying if a child is mature enough to be alive, they're not doing anything other than being.

[B]

And probably complaining about everything that's happening to them. It's not.

[D]

It's what they're not saying when they're saying that, though. If you are mature enough to go through puberty, blah, blah, blah. They're saying, if you're mature enough to go through puberty, you're mature enough for me to have sex with you.

[A]

Exactly. Exactly.

[D]

That's what they mean.

[A]

Because let's be honest. If you're making a decision to go on puberty blockers or any kind of gender reassignment surgery procedure, whatever you want to call it, they're all incredibly invasive. Whether it's pills, whether it's psychotherapy reinforcing a delusion, or it's an actual sex change. This is all evil, evil stuff.

[D]

That was an educated way to say, if there's grass in the field, play ball. Yeah, which is disgusting.

[A]

Exactly. And think about this. You're saying kids are responsible to make a decision that will forever alter their sex lives. Many people who go through transition never experience a climax again. That may contribute to the high enough suicide rate. If I wasn't able to, I'd probably take my own life out.

[D]

Well, then why hasn't my wife killed herself?

[A]

It's hot potato that I don't want to play with right now, but we'll get back to it.

[B]

You have to keep moving.

[A]

If you say, yeah, you can make a decision. Oh, well then. And they must be of age to consent to sexual decisions because they're consenting to a decision that affects their sexuality, not just their gender. They try and separate the two. You can't. What? It involves sex organs. Not to mention Reddit. All of these Charlie Kirk posts. He did deserve it. And his family deserved to see it. What an irredeemable piece of shit. His wife, too. Fuck that bitch. Crab dance. Rest in piss. This is still available right now on Reddit, but God forbid you buy some kind of a magazine extension for your pinky.

[B]

I mean, listen, I think it's good to pick a fight with this guy. And apparently he took some notice of us picking a fight with him because he responded.

[A]

Oh, what did he say? Well, he responded to the post and he just said their kids can be really, really effective job creators. Oh, so he's still saying that. So being really, really effective at creating cesspools of filth and sadness where the human soul goes to die. I will say this, and this is ad hominem, just so you know, because I think I just deconstructed his argument quite a bit as to why this case is proof positive that we do not need to have some kind of amnesty and why we are not better off with Reddit. But I will summarize it with. You are a piece of shit.

[B]

Well, so we did respond that the Sinaloa cartel and ISIS are really effective job creators. To which he responded, that's your comeback. Come on, do better.

[A]

Well, just to be clear, I didn't respond that. That must have been Lane the brain. You guys know I don't really manage my own Twitter. It's usually taken from something I say on the show, but that is clever. Lane. Hey, hey. You're welcome to come on the show and do better, Mr. Reddit. Make the case for your mom, the au pair overstaying her visa and how that should make or determine our policy and how this country is better off because of Reddit. And you know what? It's not even an outlier that makes the case. Cuz it's all shitty. But even if it was, it still wouldn't make the case because what we're dealing with is millions upon millions of people who are coming to this country who have no desire to be American, who have no desire to benefit this country. And you know what? I understand it. I can't blame them. They're looking out for their family first. I got it. We need to have a system that doesn't enable them because we need to look out for American families first. That fair?

[B]

I think that's incredibly fair. That's an incredibly high risk to take, by the way. So let's assume that, yes, he's right. That some of these kids can do some amazing things that benefit this country. Can not will. You want to roll the dice every time you want to put this country at risk to have like, essentially open borders to see if perchance maybe somebody's going to come in here and do something good worth having.

[A]

Now do it with abortions. Yeah, right. The only difference is we're actually talking about a life not being proactively terminated. So, hey, maybe that. And by the way, I fully acknowledge, maybe that kid could have been the person to cure cancer, could be the next Hitler. It's a 5050 shot. I know, but I don't have the right to kill people. Hey, right now if this is live on CNN, it's the Chicago mayor like 4% approval. He was the one who said Republicans want a civil war rematch, I believe.

[C]

What?

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. He says, let's see what he's saying right now. By the way, that's the look of up a dumb face to those protesters. I mean, what's going on? Access.

[C]

What I've always said is that we have to peacefully assemble and we do that non violently in Chicago.

[A]

You silly.

[C]

The city of Chicago is known for its ability to stand up and to resist peacefully. So of course we're not.

[A]

I don't think you know what Chicago is known for.

[C]

No, but that also includes that the federal government cannot unleash tear gas and shoot pepper balls at journalists for just showing up to do their job and to cover the news. This president has intentionally worked to escalate violence in the city of Chicago and cities across the world.

[A]

That would be quite the feast. Escalating violence in Chicago because you're tops.

[C]

The president has made it very clear he doesn't support this constitution. And if Congress, which our framers does not.

[A]

Oh, you support the constitution. What are the carry laws in Chicago? Anyone know the carry laws in Chicago since he's Mr. Constitution?

[C]

Well, just this past week I signed another executive order. We have three sweeping executive orders to make sure that the fundamental right to protest is intact. We're making sure that people know their rights. And all of our sister agencies and city departments are working in accordance with the local ordinance. And then now public property that the city owns, ICE cannot prepare its weapons on school parking lots. ICE cannot prepare to disappear families in the parking lots of libraries. That's not what these public accommodations are for. We literally have no. Therefore gang violence under siege with black helicopters.

[A]

So this is what.

[B]

So what you want them to do is run to schools?

[D]

Oh, no, not black helicopters.

[C]

Had masked armed men.

[A]

They have a problem with masks, long.

[C]

Guns in their faces. This is not the type of America that my ancestors long guns fought hard to create. This is a fundamental attack I have.

[D]

Mayor for democracy.

[C]

It's not about immigration. It's not about safety. It's about authoritarianism. And we're going to push, right?

[A]

Yeah, that's right. The majority of the majority of Americans, they voted for authoritarianism. And by the way, a significant majority plurality depending on the polls, support some kind of not only immigration reform, but expedited deportation. Yeah, they just want authoritarianism. That's all they want. Yeah, the Reason that people have a problem with Chicago violence and have a problem with people protesting and attempting to firebomb ICE facilities when these people are doing the job they were elected to do. Right. This administration, empowering ice. Oh, they just want authoritarianism. Yeah. Okay. That's. Talk about never taking accountability. And like I've told you, when anyone from the left, a Democrat, tries to cite the Constitution, you prepare, gird your loins. They're about to lie to you.

[B]

Yeah. Every single time. And by the way, this guy, he cites what he is doing to try to protect Chicago as the. These are the very things that he's doing to get in the way of the federal government. Just to be clear if you missed when we covered this, ICE is enforcing the law, getting people and taking them out of the community and deporting them. They are being prohibited from doing that by protesters and people trying to get into the way of their job being fulfilled. This guy and his police not responding to help ICE when they're in trouble. It went out over the air. We covered it. Chief of the watch or something like that said it. So I don't know exactly what official that was. And then he signed this executive order in response to that.

[A]

And I'll tell you what, it's working. You guys will see black and white and the gray issues tomorrow. I was confronted with people saying, well, why is Donald Trump going to just black cities? I go, hold on a second. What else is notable about those cities?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Run entirely by blue mayorships for decades. And aren't they sanctuary cities or harboring illegal immigrants, not allowing the federal government to do its job. Why do you go straight to black? Because guys like this want to foment a race war. Used to be crazy people like Charles Manson, some guy who claimed he was Jesus, right. They said there's a race war coming. Now you have guys like this with 4% approval ratings as mayor of major cities, the most violent one, still trying to ferment that. Let's hear what else he has to say. He is dumbface. Resting Dumbface.

[C]

Defending our democracy.

[A]

All right, Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson, thank you for your time.

[B]

He should be in jail.

[A]

We are defending our democracy. With 50 people being shot on a long weekend. Happy Labor Day.

[B]

I'm sorry, I just. I don't have, like. I understand the challenge of authoritarianism. And you want to make sure that you never start walking down that road. And you want to be very careful that you don't end up in a place where somebody does come in. Maybe not this guy, but the Next guy or the guy after that. But when you're trying to do something federally that The American people. 100%. Not in a poll or anything like that, but this is what we voted for Donald Trump for. People that voted for Donald Trump knew this was what he's gonna do. We wanted him to do this. This was the top issue for so many people to come in and do that, be blocked by these cities that are sanctuary cities, sanctuary states in the first place. What I didn't even think was a thing that could happen in this country. And then to have the balls to go out and say, we're not gonna respond. Yeah, I'll help. And by the way, everybody out there, if ICE comes for you, run to a school. Yes, that's exactly what he just did. Run to a school.

[A]

Because guess what?

[B]

They can't operate on school property. Oh, now kids are safer somehow? A criminal fleeing prosecution. Maybe they have a weapon, maybe they don't. They're trying to break into a school to make sure they don't get deported, you moron.

[A]

Here's why these people don't appear on adversarial programming. They don't, because it would be one question. They always go on there to say. And while we do support immigrate, you know, some form of immigration reform, and we have had many. Okay, how do you fix it? 12 million to 20 million. We'll use a low number. Let's just say 12 million illegals. Three. Three and a half years under Biden. Why didn't it work? How do you fix it? What do you do? They have no answer. They have no answer. These people opposed deporting violent criminals who are in our prisons, who are here illegally. They have no answer. Say what you want about Stephen Miller. Say what you want about Marco Rubio, who looks like he's hanging on by a very thin thread. And I think that about him these days is they will go on adversarial programming and make their case. The left will not. It is almost impossible to get them to show up. Or people on the. You know, the horseshoe on the extreme far right.

[D]

I'm still trying to figure out what he said. Are there federal agents loading up 240 Bravo machine guns on elementary school parking lots?

[A]

No, no, they're shooting. They're shooting pepper balls from paintball guns at the ground to create a perimeter.

[D]

Outside the ICE facility.

[A]

Yeah, where they're being raided, where they're trying to do their job and they're being attacked. Yes.

[D]

And it's not about immigration. It's about authoritarianism.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

Is it about authoritarianism if you don't show up and they just do their job and nobody gets in the way?

[A]

That's a valid question.

[D]

Nobody gets thrown to the ground trying to break through their lines.

[A]

That's a valid question.

[B]

I'd also like.

[A]

Here's Jake Tapper, who's looking more and more like Is Carlov apartment for decades. Who keep us safer. People who would not talk to me. People who would not cooperate with me for my book. But I know from their reputations, from their colleagues how highly respected they are. And anyway, I don't want to hear him. He's gonna go do the monster mash or some shit.

[D]

He looks like he's about to say greed.

[A]

Yeah. It's a good thing for. He looks like a graveyard.

[B]

How about black unemployment in Chicago?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You think illegal immigration affects how many people can get jobs in the black community and the Hispanic community who came here illegally were born here in the white communities, in the Asian communities.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you care about anything for your citizens, or is it just the undocumented immigrants buying votes coming in here?

[A]

Well, they blame the black unemployment rate on white Americans, and then they blame the plight of illegal immigrants on racist white Americans.

[B]

Well, it's us again.

[A]

Yeah. And then. And then they just, you know, if you just. Just have a path to citizenship. And they blame the trafficking, the human trafficking on, I guess, just circumstances. I don't know. Would anyone ever ask them, hey, 300,000 unaccompanied minors under Biden. At least 13,000 were found by Donald Trump because he tried. Why didn't you guys do anything? They'll never appear on adversarial programming because they can't be pressed. Their ideas don't hold up to scrutiny. Yeah, we're still waiting for an answer back from the professors, by the way, at the university's names at the. Change my mind. Still waiting. $10,000 for you guys out there to your school. All right, here's another one. Hey, because the left, they do this, right? They say, hey, the right is authoritarian. They say the right is fermenting violence. Right. I said the left is violent. Changed my mind. I was surprised that very few people actually, in the general American public, actually, very few people had any disagreement with the idea that more political violence right now is currently coming from the left. That surprised me. Yes. I was prepared to sort of walk people down the path of understanding that there is more violence from the political left. They just don't label it that. But most people Already agreed. So even their own leaders have a disconnect with people who might identify as liberal because they're trying to say actually more violence is coming from the right. Which brings us to this next story. Remember that South Carolina judge, the house. There was a house fire. Yeah. Well, it turns out. Turns out that at least as it seems now it. You were told it was arson by all those leftist activists. Like everyone's saying, hey, it's arson. Violence is coming from the right. I should have set that up. Because if you're just hearing the truth now, you made it. It turns out it's not. Yeah. The South Carolina law enforcement division chief said at this time there is no evidence to indicate the fire was intentionally set.

[B]

Well, come on.

[A]

Oh, well, great. You should see that as a headline everywhere. Right, but what about the retractions? What about the admonish button for mainstream outlets that said. And of course, we see radical violence coming from the right. What about msnbc? What about Nicole Wallace? She didn't waste any time blaming maga, saying that MAGA was or implying was behind the fire. What we're learning about the fire that destroyed the home of a South Carolina Circuit Court judge who faced criticism from Trump officials after ruling she made against the Trump administration. It comes amid a surge in hostility and threats against judges, as well as criticism directly from the Trump administration, including for Judge Goodstein after she temporarily blocked the Justice Department from accessing the files of millions of registered voters in South Carolina. And here's the thing. If, let's say someone had set this fire and this person had happened to be a Republican, at some point in time, they would list that as political violence. But I'm telling you, even if that was the case, it's not. It still wouldn't even be close to the same. When I say leftist violence, I mean that I know it's violence committed as a means to a leftist political end. Well, how do you know that, Stephen? Because they say it. Yeah. Well, how do you know they said it? Because I saw them say it and they repeated it. Often. They're wearing an actual jersey that says it. Whether it's antifa or whether it's Act Blue or Trump is a fascist or Republicans are Nazis punch a Nazi, they say they're committing it in the name of progressive policies. And even then, it just turns out this, this wasn't arson. Do we get to get to put that genie back in the bottle? New York Congressman Dan Goldman, he posted this on x Trump and StevenMiller and Magaworld have been doxing and threatening judges who rule against Trump, including Judge Goodstein. Today someone committed arson on the judge's home. Not, and we have to say allegedly about everything here, including O.J. simpson doing the murder thing. We still say like allegedly, if he did it.

[D]

That was actually the title of his book. Yeah, that wasn't us, that was him.

[A]

That says the left has no fear of accountability because they've lived without it for so long. This is a congressman in New York saying today someone committed arson on the judge's home, severely injuring her husband and son. No evidence whatsoever.

[B]

Oh, hold on. We left out a part. Oh, it's right there.

[A]

Will Trump speak out against the extreme right that did this? Thank God he didn't fall for your stupid tricks, your manipulative, gaslighting tricks. Mehdi Hassan, who I'm quite convinced at this point is paid to act more retarded by the day, said a lot. She ruled against the Trump administration and the DOJ not long ago.

[B]

I know, right? And we covered that. We talked about that on Monday and we said, listen, if this turns out to be arson, we will come out and condemn it right now.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

And Mehdi Hasan has no idea when he made that post. He has no idea what the motivation was. And here's what he will say. And people are saying this about other public figures right now. He's like, well, I never said MAGA did it.

[A]

I'm just asking questions.

[B]

All I had was these like facts right here and then showed you this picture. Yeah, but come on, we know exactly what you're doing. Stop hiding behind that crap.

[A]

Yeah, I'm saying that Robinson, I always wanna. Cause it's like Tyler Robinson, Tyler Robinson who shot Charlie Kirk. I try and forget his name. Did it in the name of leftist ideology. Why? Because he said it. It was very clear. When we're talking about the attempted assassinations, the violent assaults of conservatives, of Republicans. Well, we only address it for what it is when it's very clear. And by the way, of course, completely condemned the one example they try to pull from the Hortman's in Minnesota, which was not politically motivated. The guy was out of his mind. He said that Tim Walls tried to have him put a hit out on somebody. He was absolutely insane. The only thing he did say about it being politically motivated was that it was not politically motivated. He could be lying cuz he's batshit crazy. But I still condemn the act of violence. Yeah, he didn't say I did this in the name of maga. The left can't do it. When not only their side commits the act of violence in the name of progressivism, liberalism, leftism, they can't condemn it. And they trans. Well, no, no, we don't know. And they also, by the way, they also justify and rationalize the gleeful celebration thereafter. We are not the same. We are not going to find common ground. We are not going to hold hands and sing we are the World because I and we are nothing like you. And you can bet that God forbid, if it ever gets to the point where those in the right are fed up and you do see right wing political violence, it happens. Those on the right are usually long suffering, but when it happens, it's usually surprisingly swift and startlingly effective. So have the conversation that you guys claim you want to have show up debate. Oh, that's right, sorry. Our opinions are violence. But wait, you're not showing up. Silence is violence. Then you get aha. Other liberals who also either implied or outright said that this was right wing violence. Adam Kinzinger. I threw open my mouth a little bit. Izzy Garden, the Newsom communications director. Rick Wilson, Harry Sisson, Neera Tanden, the former Biden senior advisor. Nicholas Kristoff of the New York Times. So this was a judge who had been, I believe was married at one point to was it a congressman or a senator? You guys can fact check me and let me know. I'm trying to remember the story.

[B]

I think it was congressman that I remember.

[A]

And also a missing piece of information here. Some early reports suggested that there simply was some light S and M at the root of this. Hey, what you do in your own boudoir.

[B]

Hold on, let me just. One fact that escaped me and I think has escaped a lot of people, is that they say that they recently ruled against the Trump administer administration. That was a month prior to this fire. And it was about the Trump administration getting access to voter data, I believe, or the voter rolls in Virginia. Is that really the thing that you're gonna go and burn down a judge's house over? Yes, I mean, let's just say was it's like a politically motivated thing. Okay, like what's the thing? Look back here. Did this judge rule against anything? Yeah, but it's just some voter thing. It doesn't matter. I'll just say that she recently ruled against the Trump administration. There you go. Done. That's the headline. What is it about? It's something that people really don't know or care a whole lot about.

[A]

Also, there's a case to be made that this judge Kind of ruled on both sides. And ruled conservative in quite a few cases too. Yeah. Noodles, you're about to say something. Her husband is former South Carolina Democratic state senator Arnold.

[B]

State senator.

[A]

Okay, okay. That's her current husband. Correct. Okay. Because I know she was married before and had a. So I didn't follow the love triangle so much as the left lying about political violence. But here's the good news. Not really good news, sad news. I don't have to lie about political violence to tell you that there's still plenty of it if you want some headlines in the last, just last few days. It's coming from the left, though. So the Harvard professor who shot that pellet gun at the synagogue, Karen Bass. The staff were there. Sentenced after a fake bomb threat. The Kavanaugh would be assassin. That's what I thought when they were talking about judges. The person was trans and targeted three justices. Not to mention the assaults on ICE officers in Portland and in California. And of course, the very violent, very disturbing J. Jones text in which he actually expressed the desire to see his political opponents die and their children witness it. It just proved what a piece of crap he is. Mr. Jones said he would kill someone.

[D]

For the politics and wants violence for children and women.

[A]

And he shoots you too. He's got to be forced out of the race.

[D]

They wanna be commissars, but they don't know how without mowing you down.

[A]

Don't let anybody fool you. I'm still a supporter. J. Jones. These people can't be allowed to have power again. Oh, it was fun.

[D]

Attacks were not fun.

[B]

Yeah, no.

[A]

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[B]

Comment from Perplexity. AI Perplexity.

[A]

Those words are hard for me to say with a perfectity. I just saw Huey Halloween because it was recommended to me and I'm mad. Oh, it's.

[D]

It's I.

[B]

And I love it.

[A]

I love it. I'm like, who's this for? Me. It's for me. Thanks a lot, Josh. But we are going to continue. And we're going to continue. I've noticed what I think might be a Little bit of astroturfing. And I know you might say that I'm too close to this, that I would have a bias because Vox tried to destroy my life.

[C]

No.

[A]

But two things can be true that can be true. And objectively I can say that this sort of whitewashing or sanitizing of Ezra Klein, I should say one of the founders of Vox, on some right leaning podcasts out there, conservative bro podcasts.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Is not a good thing. And it's fine. I think people should be platformed. I just wish that we could see some more pushback. So maybe Ezra Klein, you know, founder of the organization, the media entity who tried to destroy my life and everyone here with the demonetization, the Voxed apocalypse, sorry about that. Maybe Ezra Klein would be willing to come on here along with the, the co founder of Reddit who we just discussed. But he was on the flagrant podcast with Andrew Schultz and he made this claim that you hear a lot from the left and when you see people who claim to be center or center right, when you see them not push back against this, it means that either they're very immature in their political, social, cultural walk, or it could be that it's disingenuous because when someone goes, the right is super far. And people go, yeah, yeah, like the crazy magas. Okay, let me put a fine point on this. Sure, there are some people who are nuts. The proud boys aren't as radically right as Kamala Harris is left. Most of those militiamen in the woods are not as radically right as Joe Biden is left. When you look at the trans and the kids policies, when you look at the open borders policies, it's not even close. I just would like to see some pushback. So here's Ezra Klein, co founder of Vox, claiming that you wouldn't have believed him years ago if he told you how extreme Republicans would be today. That's what I think Republicans do really well is they exploit the most extreme version of Democrats and then they paint it across the whole party. They do try to paint Democrats, you know, by the most extreme candidates. Sam.