Is Trump Confirmed To Be on the Epstein List - What the Hell Is Going On?

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Is Trump Confirmed To Be on the Epstein List - What the Hell Is Going On?"

Louder with Crowder
Host: Steven Crowder
Release Date: July 24, 2025

Steven Crowder delves deep into the controversial topic of whether former President Donald Trump is confirmed to be on Jeffrey Epstein's infamous "black book." The episode navigates through media portrayals, alleged verifications, and the broader implications of these revelations on political discourse.

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1. Introduction to Epstein Files and Trump's Alleged Inclusion

Crowder opens the episode by addressing the recent buzz surrounding the Epstein files, emphasizing the surge of new information that has emerged after a two-week hiatus. He states:

"It's no surprise if Donald Trump is in the Epstein files... The media wants you to think where there's smoke, there's fire."
(00:00)

2. Media's Handling and Strategy

The host critiques the media's approach to the Epstein scandal, suggesting that their handling has been subpar. He asserts that the media is employing strategic misinformation to tarnish Trump’s image without substantial evidence of wrongdoing.

"The media playbook... they're gonna have someone who's insane... who has accused 26 men of rape... to make people believe there's fire."
(14:59)

3. Dissecting Untruths vs. Facts

Crowder differentiates between verified facts and unfounded allegations regarding Trump's relationship with Epstein. He references a Wall Street Journal report stating:

"Justice Department officials told President Trump in May that his name was among many names mentioned in the Epstein files."
(12:55)

However, he emphasizes that merely being named in the files does not equate to guilt or misconduct.

"The only thing we absolutely do know is that he didn't like Epstein... he cooperated with authorities."
(16:07)

4. Debunking Watch Mojo's Trump-Hitler Comparisons

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to addressing and refuting Watch Mojo's controversial video drawing parallels between Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler. Crowder systematically dismantles each comparison, highlighting inaccuracies and exaggerations.

"January 6th and Hitler's 1923 Beer Hall Putsch are nothing alike... It was just a beer pong butch. And it's pretty bad."
(40:38)

He further critiques the superficial similarities presented by Watch Mojo, emphasizing the lack of substantive connections between the two figures.

5. Candace Owens vs. Macron Lawsuit

Crowder shifts focus to the legal battle between French President Emmanuel Macron and American commentator Candace Owens. Macron and his wife, Brigitte, have filed a defamation lawsuit against Owens for spreading unfounded conspiracy theories about their personal lives and affiliations.

"They spread outrageous conspiracy theories... that the Macrons... are being controlled by the CIA."
(59:05)

Crowder argues that Owens bears the burden of proof in defending her statements, drawing parallels to previous defamation cases involving misinformation.

6. Audience Interaction and Host Banter

Throughout the episode, Crowder engages in light-hearted banter with his co-hosts and guests, offering humorous takes on unrelated topics and maintaining an entertaining atmosphere despite the heavy subject matter.

"I was his friend. I didn’t get an invite, but I wanted one."
(30:11)

7. Conclusion and Call to Action

Closing the episode, Crowder reiterates the importance of due diligence in consuming media and urges listeners to support independent platforms like Rumble. He emphasizes the ongoing need to uncover the truth behind the Epstein files and resist media manipulation.

"We need more of that. It's just an inevitable outcome where she's going to be confirmed."
(32:28)

He encourages audience members to join Rumble Premium for ad-free content and continued support of free speech initiatives.

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Notable Quotes:

• Steven Crowder:
  "These videos will not be allowed to stand. They must be demonetized. That's bullsheid."
  (03:26)

• Viva Frei:
  "His attorney, Valerie Segameni, says he lost everything by going back to the country."
  (08:56)

• Candace Owens:
  "Donald Trump is very clearly not Hitler."
  (42:26)

• Steven Crowder:
  "This election's bullshit."
  (49:06)

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Key Takeaways:

• Trump's Presence in Epstein Files: Being listed does not inherently imply wrongdoing; Crowder emphasizes the need for evidence beyond mere inclusion.

• Media Critique: The host argues that the media employs tactics to insinuate guilt without substantial proof, fostering misinformation.

• Debunking False Equivalencies: Comparisons between Trump and historical figures like Hitler are unfounded and misleading, lacking depth and evidence.

• Defamation and Accountability: The lawsuit against Candace Owens serves as a reminder of the consequences of spreading unverified conspiracy theories.

• Support for Independent Media: Crowder advocates for platforms like Rumble that prioritize free speech and resist algorithm-driven biases.

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This episode encapsulates Crowder's ongoing commitment to challenging mainstream narratives, advocating for transparency, and defending political figures he supports against what he perceives as media-driven injustices.

Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

Welcome to the lineup live on rumble. That's 9am Eastern to 6pm Eastern. Do I have that right? At 6, right? Yeah. Not 7. I run on God's time. Central time where you get Russell Brand, then Jeremy at the courting. You get Viva Fry, you get Andrew Wilson, Nick DePaolo. And you don't need to change that dial. We're going to talk about a lot today because you guys asked me to discuss this and we were on that two week break for all of us, Epstein. And the new information has come out. I'm going to get into what it is that the media is trying to do versus what is actually true. The handling has been bad. I think we all acknowledge that. Of course, it's no surprise if Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. We have a call that I said, of course he would be because he was the one who cooperated with authorities. Okay? The media wants you to think where there's smoke, there's fire. No one is making the claim that Donald Trump was buddies for a long time or did anything untoward with Epstein. It's important that you're able to see the strategy that they use and how to be able to look at it critically. Also, Donald Trump is not Hitler, though. Watchmojo just did a comparison video to Donald Trump and Nazi Germany because a lot of Jews were clawing their way into Germany back then. And Macron is suing Candace Owens. And this is want you to uncouple this from a free speech issue. Donald Trump won some lawsuits because people knowingly lied about him. This is going to come down to proof. This is going to come down to did Candace Owens knowingly present misinformation to inflict damages? We don't have all the answers, but we do have some. So gonna try and call balls and strikes today. Welcome. Of course, those coming in from Vince, from Bongino army, formerly, I guess once Bongino army, always Bongino Army. Vince, we appreciate you leading into this here. And Vince comes from Vincente in Latin, which all the Romance languages are based in Latin, which translates to roughly instead of smoked coos, man, it's usually used in Sicily. On with the show. Hey, man, this is a great barbecue, right?

[Dave Landau]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

The perfect yard for this too. Kevin, such a great house, man. Thank you, guys.

[Gerald Morgan]

Yeah, check them.

[Steven Crowder]

Nice. Nice.

[Josh Firestein]

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[Steven Crowder]

There is a plague on YouTube and growing where people feel free to express their opinion, slandering their elected officials and political leaders. And we must take this on at once. These videos will not be allowed to stand. They must be demonetized. That's bullsheid. Bullshiz. Demonetize these videos. If you see something, it is your duty to create a wonderful and new YouTube, to inform the authorities and demonetize bullshit. Click Rumble Premium and join now for 99 annually or $9.99 a month to get the entirely ad free experience and an ever expanding roster of content creators and free speech. It's. That's like an idea for like a hat, like a big old hat. Like a T shirt says talk to the hand.

[Dave Landau]

You really consider that role?

[Steven Crowder]

No, we were just talking about how it makes it so easy to just when you don't try and when you just try and start off with what's correct.

[Dave Landau]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

There's so much Stephen Colbert, you have people getting sued and you're like, oh, did they know this? Did they not? Well, at the very least, people now out there, everyone out there, fake news. And I understand this has been an issue. It's really the era of due diligence. I'm glad to see that media, legacy media is done, that it's dying. It pretty much is dead at this point and everyone's urinating on the ashes. But we now find ourselves at the point where people have realized there's a new market and it's getting oversaturated and people are happy to lie to you so long as they get clicks. So really, it's more important than ever for you to do your due diligence. And I think it's more important than ever for us to expect those broadcasting to do their due diligence and also to get their headphones working right. Son of a bit. All right, so let Me ask you this before we move on. What would be required for you to be satisfied with the sort of response, the handling of the Epstein files. If they were to be released with certain names, with the names redacted or people or places, information redacted that protects the innocent, meaning it only provides the information of those who willingly engaged in sex. Would that be enough? Do you need everything at this point where nothing is redacted? I really just think they should deliver what it is that they promised. I mean, legally they can say, well, we're not allowed to do that. Well, then you shouldn't have promised it. That's the primary issue here. And I understand why you guys are upset. It doesn't mean that you're anti Maga. It doesn't mean that you're anti Trump. It doesn't mean that you're no longer a conservative. If you are a conservative, if you are a Republican, if you are a Trump voter who thought that you would get the Epstein files because you were told that you would and then, then you thought that you would because Pam Bondi said that they were on her desk and you would. It's okay that you're upset when you are now being told by the same people that the only folks who care about it are Democrats. By the way, it's a live show, weekdays, 11am Eastern. Captain Morgan, CEO, how are you?

[Dave Landau]

I'm doing well. I'm not in the files though, so.

[Steven Crowder]

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

[Josh Firestein]

It sounds like you're in the files.

[Steven Crowder]

I signed. I signed the book. Gerald Park.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, that's smart. That's smart. Other people just put Kevin Spacey.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I know. Or Chris Tucker.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah, I knew I should have paid those shots.

[Steven Crowder]

I thought you said it be 14 year olds. You man. All right.

[Josh Firestein]

Do you understand 14 year old girl.

[Steven Crowder]

That'S in my mouth.

[Dave Landau]

What's on the you sounds like a condition.

[Josh Firestein]

Anyway, I didn't want to do that.

[Steven Crowder]

From Shanghai, from Sex Island Boulevard. All right. When you hear him, you know him, you love him. It's. It's Josh Firestone. He's going to be at the Helium Comedy Club, Atlanta, Georgia, August 1st and 2nd, Friday, Saturday, right?

[Josh Firestein]

That's right.

[Steven Crowder]

That's right. All your [e-mail] jayfirestein.com yeah. Okay, really quickly. This is funny. It's another deportation story.

[Dave Landau]

Oh, yes, sort of.

[Steven Crowder]

But this one has a twist.

[Josh Firestein]

But it's funny though.

[Steven Crowder]

It's funny. No, you're not sad? None of them are sad to me. Oh, so it involves a literal fork in the road. So this recipient of DACA grows. Eric Hernandez made a wrong turn during an Uber trip, and that may be his last Uber trip.

[Viva Frei]

Picture this. You're driving down the freeway to drop somebody off at the border when you miss an exit, and then another one, and then all of a sudden, you're accidentally in Mexico. That's what Eric Hernandez says happened to him. But here's the problem. He's a DACA recipient, so that one mistake means he's now detained and about to be deported. He's now a rideshare driver and was taking care of passengers from LA to the border in San Ysidro when he missed his exit and ended up in Tijuana.

[Steven Crowder]

Why was he taking them there? He lost everything, basically.

[Viva Frei]

His attorney, Valerie Segameni, says he lost.

[Steven Crowder]

Everything by going back to the country, being detained in the country whose flag he likely flies.

[Viva Frei]

Let's keep playing prior approval to leave the US and when he tried to come back, she says the Americans at the border asked him for. For a bribe.

[Dave Landau]

Oh, come on.

[Steven Crowder]

But at one point, one of the. They mispronounced Mexicans. Well, if you pay us $800, we'll forgive everything and we'll let you into the United States with no problem.

[Viva Frei]

Without any cash, she says Hernandez was placed in expedited removal. He's now at Otay Mesa Detention center in order of deportation.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, so the lesson here is always travel with cash.

[Dave Landau]

Or Zell.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, because. Because let's just honestly, you really. But, like, do any of us question that the Mexican authorities are corrupt? That's how it works. There is bribery. I'm sure it happens here every now and then. I've graced a few palms to get out of citations. Didn't work. Turns out you need more than a fiver.

[Josh Firestein]

800 bucks is a weird number.

[Steven Crowder]

It is a weird number.

[Josh Firestein]

It almost feels like he's not lying, because that's a specific number.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. It could mean. It could be like in Spanish, sort of like 72 virgins with Islam. Or that they're like, no, no, that just means countless. I'm like, it doesn't make any better. Could just be like, mean countless in Spanish. Like Dio. 800.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah. I don't know if that's.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't know. To be fair.

[Josh Firestein]

Leave it, though. It's one of the it, if not the busiest it. Maybe El Paso is the busiest, but it's gotta be like the busiest crossing.

[Steven Crowder]

It's gotta be in the country.

[Josh Firestein]

You think that they. They have A secret room.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't know. Also, you can comment below. Can you. Can you haggle with bribes? You should be able to. Should be able. It should be like a pawn shop.

[Josh Firestein]

Where you'd be like, why, I only have 400.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah. You treat him like a barker. Not to be fair to Hernandez, the wrong turn that he took was rather confusing. Yeah, I could see. I would do the same. Now, here's the reality. Everything is a sob story. I one time almost accidentally ended up in Mexico, driving across the country. The good news is I didn't, because there are many, many, many, many signs warning you that you are approaching the last United States exit. And then that's chest I5.

[Josh Firestein]

That's in San Diego only freeway.

[Steven Crowder]

And if you can't read that because you're in a country and don't speak the official language, the good news is, unless you're blind, which I hope is not the case if you're an Uber driver, when you get to the border, there are giant whistling, loud U turns, so you can see those two. They couldn't be like.

[Josh Firestein]

Additionally, if you can't read in English, luckily, Mexico is spelled the same in Spanish.

[Steven Crowder]

That's true.

[Josh Firestein]

It's not exactly the same. Arrows are exactly the same in all languages. Also, at the border, there's a big fun sign that says Mexico in red, white, and green.

[Dave Landau]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

And often a flag.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, it's a.

[Steven Crowder]

They should have one. It's their country flags times, which you don't see elsewhere.

[Dave Landau]

Different colors. So it's not red, white, and blue.

[Steven Crowder]

So either he's lying or you deport him for being an idiot. Either way, I don't want him bringing me my door dash.

[Dave Landau]

So I feel like this problem solved itself. I really do.

[Steven Crowder]

Resolved on its own.

[Josh Firestein]

Where do you trap the passengers?

[Dave Landau]

Yeah, you're just like, hey, keep going closer, closer.

[Josh Firestein]

Like, I'm gonna go in Mexico. Like, yes, Y.

[Dave Landau]

Where we want to go.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly. Maybe that's why. Maybe he was like, oh, I see the U turn. They're like, f, a U turn. No, no, we're going to Don Quicho.

[Josh Firestein]

Uber said. Uber said they're doing this new thing where they're letting. They're letting women choose to not have a male driver.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

Or letting women drivers choose not have male passengers. I wonder if you can choose to not have a DACA recipient driver.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Or not choose Asians.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

So, Epstein, that came out of nowhere. I want to get to this with Jeffrey Epstein. Look, there's a lot to sort of get into Here, what is true, what is not. And I want to make something. Let me set this up yesterday, okay? The new information. Wall Street Journal released this exclusive declaring that bombshell, President Trump, his name is in the Epstein files.

[Viva Frei]

The Wall Street Journal is now reporting that Justice Department officials told President Trump in May that his name was among many names mentioned in the Epstein files.

[Steven Crowder]

This is something the White House is.

[Viva Frei]

Now labeling as, quote, fake news.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay? So we're going to get to their handling of it, which I don't think is very good. But I want you to understand the media playbook here, what the media playbook does. So before this, they released this story that Donald Trump was buddy. Buddy with Epstein and sent him a birthday letter, which is false, and Donald Trump's likely going to win that lawsuit. Here's what the media does. They go, all right, there's going to be something true out there, but it's not enough. So now we need to create a backstory to make it credible. In other words, we're gonna have someone who's insane, who named her cat Vagina, who has accused 26 men of rape, who says that. So we know she doesn't have the credibility. So let's just have a bunch of other women come forward with unsubstantiated claims that can drip in the media so that people conflate the two and go, where there's smoke, there's fire. Picture this. Let's say you are a famous person, all right? And let's say you got, I don't know, you got cited for littering, okay? And let's say that you, as a young man, you got into a bar fight with a buddy, all right? So here's what happens. They go, okay, we want to falsely accuse you of rape. Now, we know we're not gonna win this in court. We know there's no substantiation. We know that there's nothing there. But what we're gonna do now, since we know we're going to Release this in 6 months time is we're gonna bring out, look, littering, look. Bar fight looks. Look at this. Ex girlfriends or ex enemies. So that when this false story or completely unsubstantiated story comes out, you go, well, I guess where there's smoke, there's fire. Only they're the ones creating the fire. This is the playbook. And I want to separate what is very likely versus the poisoning of the well that the media does. First off, it is zero percent surprising that President Trump's name is in the files of Course it would be.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah. And you might have had a little bit of foresight on that one, Stephen.

[Josh Firestein]

Come, let Zoltar tell you more.

[Steven Crowder]

I translate the next pitch ball right past the flagship.

[Gerald Morgan]

We're gonna win the game. Game, I guarantee.

[Steven Crowder]

And so the left plays this game. Look, connection to Epstein reported him. He may never. I can't definitively say this, but there's a strong chance that Epstein may never have been caught or nothing would have stuck at all if not for Donald Trump. Guarantee you he's in the files for that reason. Is there another one? I doubt it.

[Josh Firestein]

Come, let Zoltar tell you more.

[Steven Crowder]

I calculate the next pitch ball right past.

[Gerald Morgan]

We're gonna win the game, I guarantee.

[Steven Crowder]

Of course, he would be in the files because he was the one person who cooperated with the authorities, kicked him out. It would be impossible for him to not be in the files. Now, no one is alleging that he's done anything unto. There are going to be a bunch of people in the files, by the way, who didn't necessarily do anything wrong. If they were ever introduced to Epstein or before they figured out his game, they'll be in the files.

[Dave Landau]

Right.

[Steven Crowder]

So first, let me go through the untruth versus what we actually know, and then we'll go to the poor handling of it. So some of the untruths, the alleged birthday letter, right. To Epstein, the Wall Street Journal, they're being sued. It was, as far as we know, confirmed to be fake, confirmed to be inauthentic, and they knew it and ran it anyway. That's important to remember for the later case, because if you knowingly run information that is not only false, but low confidence and you are irresponsible, you will be held liable in the 1990s. This is another thing that's just out there. It's circulating. They add all this up. Maria Farmer said that Epstein brought her into a room and told Trump she's not here for you. When Trump was at an office. Again, this is something that's completely unsubstantiated. She claims that she asked the FBI to look into Trump. All right, that doesn't necessarily mean anything. And if someone wants to. If someone wants to vilify a political enemy or someone they disagree with, you can ask the FBI to look into. Gerald, please do, by the way.

[Dave Landau]

No. Why?

[Steven Crowder]

She even says, what are you hiding? Yeah, what are you hiding? That's exactly what. What a guilty person would say.

[Josh Firestein]

Absolutely.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Let me guess. You didn't murder. Are you a murderer?

[Dave Landau]

It's time for me to go to Israel.

[Steven Crowder]

Are you a murderer? Have you ever committed murder?

[Dave Landau]

No, I have not.

[Steven Crowder]

That's exactly something a murderer would say.

[Dave Landau]

Wait, what?

[Steven Crowder]

So, yeah, yeah, like he's going to say, I did it.

[Dave Landau]

Let me watch the video and see.

[Steven Crowder]

This lady even said she had no evidence of Trump wrongdoing. Okay. So the new article says that in May, Bondi and her deputy informed the President at a meeting in the White House that his name was in the Epstein files. Many other high profile figures were also named. Trump was told being mentioned in the records isn't a sign of wrongdoing. They told the President at the meeting that the files contained what officials felt was unverified hearsay about many people, including Trump, who had socialized with Epstein in the past. This is not new. Some of the officials said this. One of the officials familiar with the documents said they contain hundreds of other names. So to be clear, the birthday letter, which would signify that he's friends with them. Not true. The allegations that he seemed like he wanted to sexually assault me, even though it didn't happen and there was no evidence. Untrue. But you've been hearing these things, drip, drip, drip, drip, drip. And the truth is, of course, he's in the files because he knew Epstein and he kicked them out of Mar A Lago and he dealt with the authorities. Do not separate these two things. Now, let's go to the handling of this. It's been awful, but I understand it. President Trump would be rightfully anxious, concerned, going, oh, no, the media's gonna try. And this is the same media, by the way, that trumped up church charges exclusively for him in the first time, the first time in the history of this country to try and impeach him, to try and render him ineligible. And he knows that this could be Russiagate 2.0, and he knows that they're going to try and build this case. So he tried to get out ahead of it. Okay. Then he tried to bury it. All of those could be kind of permissible in some instances. I get it. The problem is that you promised people that you would, and then people in your cabinet promised people that they would release this. And then the real problem and why I think a lot of you are upset, rightfully so. Was, and this is an overused word. Most people don't even know what it means. The gaslighting of his supporters saying now, well, it's just Democrats who want this. They're trying to keep this talking point alive. That's not true. You know, it's not True, you've lived it, and now you're being told that you have not lived it. That is poor handling, but it doesn't make this guy guilty of anything as it relates to Epstein. That brings us to then and now. So again, you can comment below if you disagree with any of this. The references are all available links in the description, as we do every single show. And by the way, the best way to stay in touch, download the Rumble app. Follow me there. You're just going to be notified when we are live. You don't want to be beholden to some algorithmic monster. Tune in 11am weekdays and then sometimes we do special streams. Download the Rumble app. You'll never miss anything. All right, so let's go to then. President Trump told reporters that he had never been informed his name was in the files. Bad move. On what? On the, on the DOJ and Epstein.

[Gerald Morgan]

On what, on what subject?

[Steven Crowder]

Epstein on Epstein of the review of the files.

[Gerald Morgan]

Attorney General Pam, Bonnie, a very, very quick briefing here.

[Steven Crowder]

Did she tell you, what did she tell you about the review? And specifically, did she tell you at all that your name appeared in the file?

[Gerald Morgan]

No, no, she's, she's given us just a very quick briefing. And in terms of the credibility of the different things that they've seen, and I would say that, you know, these files were made up by Comey, they were made up by Obama, they were made up by the Biden, you know, and we went through years of that.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, here's what we know now. It very much appears like he was told that he was in the files. By Bondi, no less.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

So you could argue like, oh, he, maybe she, maybe she didn't tell him and he didn't know. It seems like what he just said there is incorrect and that doesn't help his case. Just talking about the handling of this, none of this means that someone was brought into a room for him to assault. None of this means that he was engaged in anything untoward. The only thing we absolutely do know is that he didn't like Epstein. He confirmed that he was a creep and reported him and dealt with the authorities and cooperated. We do know that. Yeah.

[Dave Landau]

The problem is something like this gives the Democrats an end that they are looking for to make this Russiagate 2.0.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Dave Landau]

That's the thing.

[Steven Crowder]

Exactly. And unlike Russiagate, he's given them some ammo, not through misdeeds, but through mishandling. Yes. This goes back to then, not only President Trump, but the administration, the conservative, the maga, the traditional movement Right. Everyone agreed that the files needed to be released. So if you were president, would you declassify. You can answer yes or no to these. Would you declassify the 911 files? Yeah. Would you declassify JFK files? Yeah, I did.

[Gerald Morgan]

I did a lot of it.

[Steven Crowder]

Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah.

[Gerald Morgan]

Yeah, I would.

[Steven Crowder]

Seems pretty cut and dry. That brings us to now. And this is the one that really bothers people. Now, any of you concerned over the files, Keep in mind, back then there was enough concern that people were asking him to release the files and he answered yes. This is not a new thing. But now anyone who actually expects, expects there to be releasing of the files. It's actually a Democrat conspiracy to get President Trump.

[Gerald Morgan]

I call it the Epstein Hooks takes a lot of time and effort. Instead of talking about the great achievements we've had, instead they want to talk about the Epstein hooks. And the sad part is it's people that are really doing the Democrats work. They're stupid people.

[Dave Landau]

So, look, I understand that. And that pissed me off. When I heard, I was like, ugh, don't say it like that. Look, if you. What you were trying to say is that the hoax is that you are in there in some materially bad way, Right? Fine, say that. But right now everybody's just like, wait, you think the Epstein files in general, the case, everything that we've been talking about, that's a hoax? And I'm now not a supporter because I'm saying I don't think it's a hoax. I think it's something that needs to be released. It was just very.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, that's inarticulate or bad. Combined with the post of stop talking about Epstein.

[Dave Landau]

I know, I know.

[Steven Crowder]

It's like, ah, it doesn't look good. Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

It's like when your wife keeps bringing up your work buddy that you go to movies with and you're like, stop talking about her.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. By the way, you and I need to stop going to movies.

[Josh Firestein]

Concerts better.

[Steven Crowder]

And here's the thing.

[Josh Firestein]

Why are you at Coldplay concerts all the time?

[Dave Landau]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Josh Firestein]

Stop talking about Coldplay.

[Steven Crowder]

Just give me an idea.

[Dave Landau]

Oh, boy. Oh, come on.

[Steven Crowder]

Gerald, as a CEO, is all of a sudden concerned. Sketch Coldplay. I will remember it. Remind me. Sketch Coldplay.

[Josh Firestein]

Sketch Coldplay.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's the thing. It's not believable because you and I both. By the way, what about someone who touts the achievements of this administration and also says, I expected the Epstein files? There are a lot of people like that countless supporters of President Trump in this administration pushed for the release of the files like him.

[Dave Landau]

They thought that they could just, like, brush this under the rug and that people don't care.

[Steven Crowder]

People do care. What we need is what they did with the jfk.

[Dave Landau]

What they did with JFK is released. All of it.

[Steven Crowder]

How is it that my father can be convicted of 34 crimes, but no one on Epstein's list has even been brought to light? How is. I'm trying to figure out how that's possible. Right.

[Candace Owens]

That's a thing I think President Trump should run on.

[Josh Firestein]

On day one. Roll out the black book.

[Steven Crowder]

There is absolutely no way that the now CIA Director Katherine Rumler and everyone else didn't know they were talking to a sex offender. The question is, why were they talking to him and what were they trying to make go away? Does it have anything to do with the extensive video network alleged to have existed on his island and on his plane? I also understand some people will believe them if for a national security reason that Elon Musk would know the Epstein files can't be released. And you know that I absolutely believe they must be released.

[Dave Landau]

Right.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay. So just don't try and tell us that it's a Democrat conspiracy.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

And we've been very, very clear on the accomplishments. I think that this administration is doing a lot of great things. There have been some missteps. Great. And I would like to focus on that. This administration is making it impossible to stop giving them ammo. Right. Here's another truth. Two things, by the way, can be true at once. Okay. There can be a legitimate reason that people want the Epstein files, namely that, hey, who was involved? Because if people were being. We're getting, I guess, people trafficked to them through Epstein and he's no longer there. I don't know if you know this, but people who love them, underage prostitutes, that's not sort of a hankering that goes away. They're probably still getting that from someone else.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah. Despite the chronic release of child molesters in our country, they continue to do it.

[Steven Crowder]

They continue to do it for the.

[Josh Firestein]

Rest of their life.

[Steven Crowder]

And if there are people in positions of power and authority in dictating policy nationally or internationally, hey, if you have kids, you probably want to know who it is that you should keep your kids away from on a regular basis. Right. So that can be true. Legit concerns, reasons for wanting it released. That has not changed. And at the same time, Democrats are absolutely trying to weaponize this, and they're doing it Knowingly, dishonestly. So this brings us to then. Democrats were completely silent up until recently. Completely silent on Epstein. Biden mentioned the files zero times, to be clear, during his presidency. Zero times. And just when you see people called to the man on it, Democrats are very clearly flustered when they're asked. House Democrats spent last week trying to force votes to release records related to Jeffrey Epstein. And you have said that you support that movement. Why are Democrats just looking at this and pushing for this right now, and not really during the Biden administration. This isn't anything that any of us as House Democrats have been focused on ever, in terms of why not trying to fan the flames of what may or may not happen. Let me ask you real quick. If you think the Jeffrey Epstein files should be released, Congress needs to release them. Why do you think Biden didn't do.

[Dave Landau]

It for four years?

[Steven Crowder]

You know why they didn't do it.

[Dave Landau]

Do you think they should have?

[Steven Crowder]

Still can't get over how weird Jeffries looks.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, he looks like a vampire who only sucks white blood cells.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes. Looks like a. Looks like Nosferatu if he fed exclusively at St. Jude's.

[Josh Firestein]

Poor Kid.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, comment below. The most messed up Photoshop we've ever done. It's up there.

[Josh Firestein]

Don't show me laughing.

[Dave Landau]

Or the easiest one we've ever done for Jeffries. It did not take much work.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, and here's what it is. I bet you, because there's a legal case to be made that these files can't be released, I think that you could probably release something that would at least satisfy the people who have some questions and redact some information. I know some people would never be satisfied no matter what it is. But there can be a case that, hey, there's some information that can't be released. I bet you Democrats at this point know that they're not going to be released. So it's. Everyone is bluffing right now. Like, why don't you release it? Why don't you release it? Because they know that they're protected. Their names won't go public. So it's a. Hold me back, bro. Hold me back. They have no intention of actually wanting these to be released and they don't want these to be released. But here's now, right? We had that with the Democrats then. Now it's Republicans. By the way, it's everyone here. It's including someone like me who recreated to the centimeter Jeffrey Epstein cell to see if I could hang myself in the manner that he did. And we're all child molester supporters and pedophiles who don't want the release of files.

[Dave Landau]

I know why. Cash Patel and people who work for Donald Trump are going to bury the files for Donald Trump. That makes sense. He's going to fire them. Democrats are going to get to work on this, and we're going to do everything we can to unearth them. Because if there is corruption going on at the Department of Justice, especially to protect child sex trafficking and whatever, who knows what Donald Trump's involvement is in that?

[Steven Crowder]

You should know. Now, do Chinese spies also, speaking of child sex trafficking, what contributes to more child sex trafficking as far as America? Oh, that's right. Open borders. Would 15 to 20 million people here illegal? You think there might be some folks trafficked who did nothing about it, who encouraged it?

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, but there was one abuelo who was trying to. I can't.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I don't.

[Josh Firestein]

I can't even.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't even have an example of it. They don't even have an example.

[Dave Landau]

I don't know. It goes back to your point, though. Where was Swalwell when Biden was in office saying that, hey, this is a priority that we have to do?

[Steven Crowder]

Banging Johnny Scott.

[Dave Landau]

He was.

[Steven Crowder]

Allegedly.

[Josh Firestein]

He was in Beijing.

[Dave Landau]

Allegedly.

[Steven Crowder]

Allegedly.

[Gerald Morgan]

Allegedly.

[Steven Crowder]

He was banging Jing.

[Dave Landau]

They got no information out of that guy. He was shaggling the wrong guy.

[Steven Crowder]

So in response now to the political football that the left is trying to play, some of President Trump's friends, and good for them, they're standing up for him and stepping up in solidarity. And who here was also friends with Epstein?

[Josh Firestein]

I was his friend.

[Steven Crowder]

I was his friend. I was his friend. I was his friend.

[Dave Landau]

I was his friend.

[Steven Crowder]

I was his friend. I didn't get an invite, but I wanted one. I was his friend. I was his friend. I was his barista. And that concludes this edition of Then and Nerd. And by the way, it's not that complicated. You know what we need? I don't care if it's Patel. I don't care if it's Bongino. I'm not gonna mention Pam Bondi because she's probably too busy drinking Roundup. This is like. This woman is such an idiot. I'm sorry we never covered her confirmation because it's not my job. Like, if it's an inevitable outcome where she's going to be confirmed. And I know there are plenty of reasons that I don't want her in that position, but there's nothing I can do to change it at that point. I kind of have to sit and hope for the best. And it's been the worst with Pam Bondi. She needs to go. Absolutely. I don't think she's very smart. I definitely don't think she's very honest. I absolutely believe that she's compromised as far as interests and. No, that doesn't mean Mossad. It means if you look at her as a lobbyist. So she's awful. I don't care who it is. We do need someone who represents you. Me. With the guts to just go in there and get the freaking Epstein files. Generic investigator. I'm looking for the Epstein files. Do you have them? You must answer when I speak to you. Pedophile. We need more of that. It's the silliest slap in cinema history.

[Dave Landau]

I love it.

[Josh Firestein]

This guy's got a. Who's that actor? Plays Spartacus.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, it's Kirk Douglas.

[Josh Firestein]

Kirk Douglas.

[Steven Crowder]

He looks so much like his son. Really? Yeah. Michael Douglas. Oh, that's his dad.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, okay.

[Steven Crowder]

You didn't see that? No. Still. Again, so he can see this picture. This is.

[Josh Firestein]

I was gonna point out how his chin looks like he was hit in a rear ending accident.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, that's not very nice, but accurate. Look, this is Michael Douglas. Dad, how do you. It's Michael Douglas.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, wow.

[Steven Crowder]

They're the same. They're the exact same.

[Josh Firestein]

He just wanted breakfast.

[Steven Crowder]

That's back when you could be 5 foot 7, 130 pounds and considered ripped.

[Dave Landau]

Wow. That's true.

[Steven Crowder]

And when Tony Curtis was considered a poet, he was considered a singer. And all he does is do poetry that doesn't even rhyme. Still a great movie. One of my all time favorites. Hey, do you think that your man card should be revoked if you cry at the end of Spartacus when he's on the cross and his woman is there with his son? It gets me every single time. But you know what also gets me? It's what should get you. It is time for Reverse Super Chat. Yep. There you go. Thanks to folks Pure Talk. We don't take Super Chats. We give super chats. 50 free Rumble Premium subscriptions were just gifted in the chat. If you guys are not members, we just gave away 50 free. This is, by the way, PureTalk. I use them for my phone. It's been better than when I was with Verizon. That's anecdotal. I'm just telling you it's cheaper. I get 100% US based customer service. It's a veteran led company. Say 50% PureTalk.com Crowder if you were just gifted a Subscription. Take a screenshot, tag me on extra Instagram. Thank you for doing the opposite. Everyone else, like, give me money. Give me, give me, give me more money. We're giving you subscriptions. That's been super chat. Reverse super chat. All right. Nazis, right?

[Dave Landau]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, I thought you were just raising your hand.

[Dave Landau]

No.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, Give Elon Musk a run for his money.

[Dave Landau]

I did not. Look, I'm wearing a Just Jewett shirt there. I can't possibly be anti Semitic.

[Steven Crowder]

Sure you can. I tell you what, people see the shirt and they're still not sure. Like, is it pro? Is it pro Jew? Is it anti Jew? Is it neutral? Should I be offended or supportive?

[Josh Firestein]

That's why I think we should have left the words off it. It should have just been the guy.

[Dave Landau]

No, I like it.

[Steven Crowder]

I.

[Josh Firestein]

Or write er. Yudin.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, Iudin's one of my favorites ever. We'll get to Cadis Owens in a minute.

[Dave Landau]

Oh, geez.

[Steven Crowder]

Look, and I've tried to avoid it. Look, I try to avoid the friendly fire. You know, we joked about the Tim Kennedy stuff going on the stolen belt. Look, I'll just tell there's a reason I haven't had him on in six years. I will just tell you, like, there's a reason that I don't cover Guinness Owens a whole lot. But at this point it's a national story. We have to. If someone is even remotely conservative on our side, if I, I believe they're at some point doing some kind of. I just say, you know, there are enough enemies out there. But we're at the point now where it's gotten pretty bad and I think that we need to be able to call balls and strikes and not people out there are worried about losing half their fan base over a disagreement. I'm basically a 38 year old who's close to retirement because I've been doing this since I was a teenager, they don't care. If you don't like it, check the references, take it up with them. Let's go to Nazis. So watch Mojo. It's this big YouTube channel that's largely AI driven. It's cheap crap listicles. They have 25 million subscribers known for such hard hitting journalism as these videos. Top 10 worst things about going to Hogwarts. Top 10 celebs who tried to warn everyone about Harvey Weinstein. Top 10 LGBT characters in video games.

[Dave Landau]

What?

[Steven Crowder]

And their latest one now. And this is a tired old trope, but people are still trying to make the comparison between President Trump and current Republicans and Hitler. But in this case, they lay out a very, very paper thin case. It's called 10 Disturbing Parallels Between 1930s Germany and 2020's USA. Thanks, Mojo.

[Gerald Morgan]

Thousands, hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants, many of them prisoners, are taking up your health care. They're taking up your. Your space in schools. They're taking up your hospital.

[Candace Owens]

Welcome to watchmojo. And today we're breaking down some of the most unsettling comparisons that can be made between the respective reigns of US President Donald Trump and German Fuhrer Adolf Hitler.

[Steven Crowder]

This is the will of God.

[Josh Firestein]

Now it is obvious why I think.

[Candace Owens]

It is my duty to the nation.

[Steven Crowder]

To save the German people from the danger of communism. Now we are going to get to the claim in truth and provide the references. But let me just on the outset. Okay, going to foreshadow here in case you guess where this is going. It's ridiculous. Obviously there is nothing remotely Nazi esque about conservative Americans. Hit the stinger claim. Truth. All right. The power of the score.

[Josh Firestein]

It's just a love song.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. I think next time we should do Care Bears to Hans Zimmer.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah. Oh, wow.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, that must be Anthrax Bear.

[Dave Landau]

Now it's more interesting.

[Steven Crowder]

He travels through time.

[Dave Landau]

Hans Zimmer's good.

[Steven Crowder]

That's the gimmick of every single Dolan film. It's like, what do you think the movie is about? Time. Time. It's a thing about time. I get it. Okay. Memento. I get it with the whole time. Inception. It's time. All right, let's go to.

[Dave Landau]

It's fun.

[Steven Crowder]

The claims that are just for this moment. Okay, well, okay, you can unshine, but don't. Now see, that's what I didn't want there. So the first claim that they make. Let me try and draw these disturbing parallel. That non AI voice who sounds strikingly like AI, which I guess just means we used to call boring. That Hitler. Hitler and Trump both had failed coups.

[Candace Owens]

We mentioned it in our last entry. But let's contextualize the 1923 Beer Hall Putsch a little further and demonstrate how it shares eerie parallels with the January 6th capital insurrection. 0 November March was a failed attempt to take revenge against the incumbent Weimar Republic for signing the Treaty of Versailles some years earlier. It was foiled by the Bavarian State Police and ended with 16 deaths. Fifteen Nazis, one civilian. Nearly 100 years later, in 2021, President Trump's 2020 re election effort was unsuccessful and he encouraged his followers to storm the Capitol building and put a stop to the certification. Both events were Test runs for deeper anti democratic impulses. And the symmetrical nature of their trajectory is yet another sobering coincidence.

[Steven Crowder]

Was that Matthew Modine?

[Dave Landau]

It looked like him. Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

It was Matthew Modine in there. I have no idea. I don't know. What were you talking about before then? Yeah, what did I say?

[Josh Firestein]

Did post World War I Germany have a democratic government?

[Steven Crowder]

Well, okay, this brings us.

[Josh Firestein]

They just implied they did.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, they'd show like Mangala or Goebbels and then like. And this man with face paint who was invited in on a walking tour.

[Dave Landau]

Well, they said that he.

[Steven Crowder]

This man dismembered Jews for medical experiments. This man in a Cookie Monster voice said, we must remain peaceful.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah, exactly.

[Steven Crowder]

Disturbing parallel. You decide I'm a shitbag hack now the truth. Okay. January 6th and Hitler's 1923 Beer Hall Putsch are nothing alike. The closest we have is this beer pong butch. And it's pretty bad.

[Josh Firestein]

I tell you what though, I don't want to go. Go up against her.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no, dude, she wins. Even flipped. Oh, yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

And she won.

[Steven Crowder]

You're using smaller cups. Richer ball. Yeah, I'd get like those circus cups where everything bounces out just to. Just to bother her. And then so she'd chase me and I'd outrun her. So the be Beer Hall Putsch. For people who don't know references available, I highly recommend you go and read about it. Hitler interrupted it political meeting by firing a gun, declaring a revolution. His men, they took Jewish hostages, they kidnapped military leaders. Twenty people were killed, including 15 Nazis, four police, one bystander. January 6th, President Trump was not involved at all. He told people to make their voices heard peacefully and patriotically. He was very specific about it. The media lied about it. And the only person who was killed was a supporter of President Trump.

[Dave Landau]

And by the way, he was trying to send the electors back through a legitimate democratic process. Yeah, you just can disagree with him on getting there.

[Steven Crowder]

For it to be comparable, he would have had to be on that stage, pull out his Colt Python, fire a few in the air and say, go do it.

[Dave Landau]

Get it done. Check Truth.

[Steven Crowder]

This election's bullshit. Here's the next claim that they make a parallel. Disturbing that both Hitler and President Trump persecute people thing.

[Candace Owens]

Persecutory tendencies.

[Gerald Morgan]

Within hours of taking the oath of office, I declared a national emergency on our southern border.

[Dave Landau]

What?

[Gerald Morgan]

And I deployed the U.S. military and Border patrol to.

[Dave Landau]

How's that?

[Gerald Morgan]

Persecuting the invasion of our country. And what a job they've done.

[Candace Owens]

Let's make one thing Clear. Donald Trump is very clearly not Hitler.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, thanks.

[Candace Owens]

Open embracement of white supremacist talking points may foreshadow disturbing things to come. While Trump has strongly denied any claims that accuse him of racism, journalists, authors and more have been quick to characterize his viewpoints of being poisoned by racist ideals. Of course, to reiterate the level of Nazi Germany's appalling racial policies which touted the superiority of the so called Aryan master race and aims to whitewash the world. But Trump's rhetoric targeting Muslims, Latinos and immigrants has normalized xenophobia and political scapegoating. Consider then how Hitler became synonymous with racism and xenophobia, taking it to an unthinkable final solution.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, Stanley Tushy in there. So, Kenneth Brano, here's. Let's just do this. Kash Patel. You picture Hitler putting cash Patel. You know who I'm going to put in the head of an sf? He's going to be Punjabi. I want brown.

[Dave Landau]

Excuse me, What?

[Steven Crowder]

We have brown shirts. You've heard us. The brown shirts. I want brown bodies. He will shout it everywhere. Here's the truth. Here's the first off, the truth. They go though he's denied accusations of racism. Again, not AI voice. It's a real person. Peter, it's incumbent upon you to prove racism because there's a laundry list of examples that prove he is not racist. But they try and shift the onus, you know, like me too. So here's the real truth here. Hitler tried to exterminate an entire domestic ethnic population. President Trump is trying to keep criminals out regardless of race. Some examples. Hitler blamed the Jews for the outbreak of war. And he said that the European Jew who carried these hereditary diseases that could be communicable, needed to be and would be annihilated. I'm starting to think that little prick might be an anti Semite.

[Dave Landau]

That's true.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, but he was killing.

[Dave Landau]

That's true.

[Steven Crowder]

The audience loved him.

[Josh Firestein]

Look at that.

[Steven Crowder]

When I started doing crowd work like, yo, where you're from, only creator for violence. Only steals and prayers. This guy, right? Your wife's a bitch, Betty. Did I be a Milwaukee. What a dish. Let's contrast that with President Trump in the latest travel ban he cited specifically protecting the uden.

[Gerald Morgan]

The recent terror attack in Boulder, Colorado has underscored the extreme dangers posed to our country by the entry of foreign nationals who are not properly vetted, as well as those who come here as temporary visitors and overstay their visas. We don't want them in the 21st century, we've seen one terror attack after another carried out by foreign visa overstairs from dangerous places all over the world. And thanks to Biden's open door policies, today there are millions and millions of these illegals who should not be in our country.

[Dave Landau]

Get them out.

[Steven Crowder]

He talks about the rise of anti Semitism, but again he's an Israeli shill. But he's also Hitler, just like all of us. By the way, here's another claim that they're trying to make.

[Josh Firestein]

I'm actually only one of those things.

[Steven Crowder]

It depends on the day I rotate them. So the claim they're making is that both, both these people, President Trump, who is not like Hitler, but I will release this video claiming he's very much like Hitler, took advantage of economic instability.

[Candace Owens]

Both encouraging economic instability for political gain.

[Steven Crowder]

Less than an hour ago, the Labor Department released new numbers showing the consumer price index that basically follows inflation. It spiked to 4.2% compared to where we were a year ago. That is the biggest jump we have seen since 2008.

[Candace Owens]

In the wake of World War I, Germany's hyperinflation created the necessary conditions for extremist sentiment to bubble up. Similarly, in the post Covid United States, the crushing weight of the 2021-23 inflation surge and its associated economic stress helped re energize American nationalism. But some of his own policies to curtail immigration, which have been decried by detractors as draconian and persecutory, are having a clear and deleterious effect on American job supply.

[Steven Crowder]

No, but I mean actually there are far more. For the first time, native born American jobs are growing and foreign born jobs are leaving. So they're simply being replaced by American workers, which we were told would never happen. But again, the left can't, I can't possibly fathom looking out for Americans. Here's the truth. Well, it's technically true. If the economy absolutely sucks and someone is running for President, they tend to say, hey, vote for me, I'll make the economy not suck. For some examples here, Everyone who's run for president ever, America's in trouble.

[Gerald Morgan]

Our people are really hurting. In the 80s, the rich got richer, the middle class declined, poverty exploded.

[Steven Crowder]

I know one thing about the job of the President. It is the only job in the Constitution that is charged with the responsibility of fighting for all the people. Those who need a champion, those who need to be lifted up so they are never left behind.

[Gerald Morgan]

And the number of families living in poverty has risen by 3 million in.

[Steven Crowder]

The last four years, whisper that whole can do better and help is on the way. People feel like the American dream is slipping away. That's what's at stake in this election. We can't forget our fellow Americans, hit so hard and left behind by this changing world over the last two weeks.

[Gerald Morgan]

For economic recovery. I call it build back Better. This is about dignity and respect for working people. But America, we are not going back.

[Nick DePaolo]

We are not going back.

[Steven Crowder]

Stop stealing my talking points.

[Josh Firestein]

I love how Hillary was saying how everything's changed for the worse over the last eight years that Barack Obama was president.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. What?

[Dave Landau]

Oh, yeah. Agreement.

[Steven Crowder]

No, it was Bush's fault, remember?

[Josh Firestein]

Right, Right.

[Steven Crowder]

And here's the thing. Look, I'm gonna tell you this. I'm never going to call for someone to be fined or charged with hate speech or inciting a riot if they use the term fight like hell, because many people on the left do. But so do I, and so do people. The left doesn't apply the rules or the laws equally. It's only like Hitler when Donald Trump does what every other presidential candidate has done. That's how you know, none of it is honest. I don't have a problem with Kamala Harris saying she can improve the economy or Hillary Clinton or Al Gore. I expect them to. They need to make their case. I don't have a problem. Now I will fact check their claims. Like I lost my mind when Barack Obama said that women make 77 cents on the dollar because he's making significantly more than Michael. Allegedly. Now, the point is, if you see someone consistently applying rules completely unequally based on political persuasion, that's how you know they're not trying to improve the country or resolve anything. They're just trying to win. The next one is the worst claim because it's the opposite of the truth. There's no kernel of truth here. Here's the claim that they both, again, not AI voice, spread propaganda and fake news.

[Candace Owens]

Both Adolf Hitler and Donald Trump share the dubious distinction of having mastered the new media of their time to shape public opinion and vilify opposition. Hitler didn't do it all by himself, enlisting the help of his Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment. Key to the department was Minister Joseph Goebbels, a close confidant of Hitler's, whose weaponization of Germany's radio waves produced compelling propaganda that preached hatred and antisemitism as well as justification for the ongoing war effort.

[Viva Frei]

National Public Radio or npr and three of its local stations sued the Trump administration Tuesday over its attempts to deny them congressionally Appropriated funds. President Trump signed an executive order on May 1 which ended federal funding for NPR and the Public Broadcasting Service or PBS over what he claims is bias in their programming.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, but Elmo became a faggot. Here's the truth.

[Dave Landau]

That's true.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's the truth.

[Josh Firestein]

Are you laughing like Elmo?

[Steven Crowder]

I'm a dick. Now we have to edit that. If we do it as a YouTube clip, I think. I'm not sure that's true. I'll show you how to do with this banana. Yay. Tickle my a hole.

[Josh Firestein]

Wow, that was too far.

[Dave Landau]

Wow.

[Steven Crowder]

Noodles three only fans. Now the truth. And let me make this really, really clear. Hitler took over the news outlets through the state. President Trump defunded exclusively media that was funded by the state while appearing on and supporting independent, non state funded media. Let me give you some evidence and you can check the references. The 1933 editorial law gave the Nazis actual censorship ability, so only Aryans married to Aryans could be editors of newspapers. Roughly 1500 papers were shut down. The only example that Mojo gives is npr, pbs, who claimed to not receive a significant amount of their funding from the state.

[Dave Landau]

Whoops.

[Steven Crowder]

Were defunded by the money that didn't exist from President Trump. Now let's contrast that with. He's going, all right. No state media, but then appeared on Joe Rogan, on Theo Vaughn. I think even like, can you have any idea what Hitler would do with the Nelk boys? It's not even a real show. They just sit there. They do nothing. They talk about their watches. How many Lambos do you need? They're acting like President Trump sent PBS to the gas chamber. That may be worse than Jeffrey's one. You're just taking a shower, Cookie Monster. Very dirty. You're filthy. You've been snuffling up with upper gas.

[Josh Firestein]

One final solution. Two final solutions.

[Steven Crowder]

Let's fall asleep counting trains. One train.

[Dave Landau]

This is terrible.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's the next claim they make that they both cozy up something, something with. Oh, that's right, AI was they both cozy up with and are friends with dictators.

[Candace Owens]

This shouldn't be at all surprising. When given the chance to denounce the racism on display at the 2017 Unite the Right rally, Trump instead claimed that there were, quote, very fine people on both sides.

[Steven Crowder]

I already debunked.

[Candace Owens]

Exactly. Shocking that he tends to praise autocrats like Russia's Vladimir Putin, China's Xi Jinping and Hungary's Viktor Orban, leaders he regards as effective rather than dangerous. Similar in the lead up to World War II, when Adolf Hitler wrote admiring letters to Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, lauding his leadership and expressing interest in joining forces under an oppressive shared vision.

[Steven Crowder]

And this is what it's the Colbert Effect. You know, the Late show was built off the back of Letterman, of course, which all that was built off the backs of Johnny Carson. You can look at, you know, Steve Allen's show, all kinds of talk shows, and then they decide we're gonna transition into politics. Watch Mojo does, you know, the 10 best crocs for tomorrow's beach day. And they build up this audience, and then they say, you know what? Now we're gonna push out propaganda. And then they blame you for not wanting to watch it. Here's the truth, okay? Every single thing that guy just claimed in this talking point specifically is false. Okay? The very fine people. We've debunked that so many times. You guys have seen the video. Even Snopes had to admit a year ago, as though they didn't have access to the original tape, that it was false. Okay, here's the next. What are the other claims adversaries? Okay, let's go through Russia. Donald Trump's removed zero sanctions on Russia since taking office. Okay? He's continued to arm Ukraine through the NATO arms sales, and now he seems to not like Putin at all. China, when they talk about China, okay? There's a 55% overall current tariff on China. He's been stricter on China than anyone in modern American history, including, by the way, restricting land sales. We're looking at now in arming Taiwan, Iran. Do I need to remind you that it was a huge controversy that he took military action that swiftly destroyed their nuclear facilities without remarkably killing anybody? It's as if they're saying now they're trying to get you to believe that 1940s Germany is coming for America. All right, let's 86 any more American History X themed stuff.

[Dave Landau]

Enough.

[Steven Crowder]

Two days in a row is enough.

[Josh Firestein]

I got some other things in the bag.

[Steven Crowder]

And the hopper, you guys.

[Josh Firestein]

It's ridiculous. It's a ridiculous comparison.

[Steven Crowder]

They've been doing it for so long.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

You know, with the whole cozying up, the dictators saying, you're right, he didn't take anything just off of Russia. He's giving money and giving weapons to Ukraine still. Even though he said he didn't want to, he's still doing it. That's like if Hitler was giving money and weapons to France, Right? They were literally saying that JD Vance memes are as bad as Goebbels.

[Steven Crowder]

What I don't even know how to.

[Josh Firestein]

Confess of Goebbels is as bad as Trump's propaganda.

[Steven Crowder]

Like occasionally something. I'm just not going, I'm at this stage in my life, I'm just not even going to address something that absurd. Right. Like I'll address the points where they, even if it's paper thin, they try and make some claims. But if someone says like, oh yeah, JD Vance memes that aren't even made by him, that make fun of him as though he's been fat or something is the same as people involved. It's like just whatever. Just can't believe. Fine, okay. I don't care. I don't care.

[Josh Firestein]

He laughed about him too. It's like if Goebbels have been laughing about people.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

People doing anti Nazi propaganda.

[Steven Crowder]

Right?

[Josh Firestein]

No, they didn't laugh at all. Yeah, they still don't to this day.

[Steven Crowder]

They still don't. As a matter of fact. They don't allow you to do it. No.

[Josh Firestein]

You're not allowed to laugh at it.

[Steven Crowder]

You're not allowed to talk about it at all. We're going to continue now. We're going to talk about Macron and Candace Owens. And I know, look, there's no good way to handle these types of situations. So you guys can comment. Let me know in chat if you do want us to talk about this because I know some people are fans of her out there and I know some people are not and just going to try and be objective. But we're going to continue this segment because we can get into it a little more. As far as the law, what's likely to happen on Rumble Premium. Rumble Premium is Mug club. Mug club is Rumble Premium. And hey, none of this happens. We're not Colbert here. If you don't join us. $99 annually. You get this hand etched mug and you get 100% more content from this show. You get everything ad free. It's your one stop shop. If you want to support an actual platform that is independent and actually follows the laws as it relates to the First Amendment freedom of speech, consider joining $9.99 a month. But you don't get the mug. We're going to continue here with Rumble. I think I got it all out. Look, the point is, you don't do it, there's no more show. Okay? It's that simple. It's that simple. You don't join, there's no more show. We're able to do this because we're supported by you, not a foreign caliphate. So now Candace Owens, Macron. I know the reflex is to go Macron crappy generally, if only because he's French. And Candace, someone who has been conservative or perceived that way, must be right. And this must be political persecution because it was announced yesterday that Emmanuel and Bridget McCrone are suing Candace Owens over the repeated, nonstop claims that Bridget is in fact a man and living a lie.

[Gerald Morgan]

French President Emmanuel Macron, his wife Brigitte.

[Steven Crowder]

Are suing right wing podcaster and conspiracy theorist Candace Owens. The defamation lawsuit filed today in Delaware.

[Gerald Morgan]

Claims that Owens has engaged in a.

[Steven Crowder]

Quote, relentless and unjustified smear campaign against the couple. The complaint goes on to allege that.

[Gerald Morgan]

Owens spread outrageous conspiracy theories.

[Steven Crowder]

France's first.

[Gerald Morgan]

Lady could be a man, that the.

[Steven Crowder]

Macrons are related in committing incest, and that the Macrones. The couple is being controlled by the CIA. Okay, so here's the thing. Just like we said, we have to apply the same standard in that Watch Mojo video. Donald Trump denies claims of racism. Well, it's not incumbent upon him to prove he's not racist. It's incumbent upon you to prove that he's racist. Same thing here. If you say that she is a man and that they are having an incestuous relationship working for the CIA, it is incumbent upon Candace Owens to prove that this case is not a freedom of speech case. To be clear, if you guys agree that Donald Trump should have gotten the settlement of. I don't remember how much it was. Was it 16 million?

[Josh Firestein]

16 million from CBS?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. And there are more and counting. Nick Sandman. Right, because they knowingly lied. The threshold is did they knowingly lie about Donald Trump? Not that they get something wrong. Because you want your press to be able to get something wrong. You also should expect of them to provide retractions. We do that all the time. That's why we have an admonish button, so we don't have to wait on it. People can get things wrong. Did this person knowingly lie? Or sometimes a little bit lower. Were they willfully irresponsible in spreading damaging information claims without doing any due diligence whatsoever? And they usually weigh that with, okay, were you then made aware that this was perhaps incorrect and did you exacerbate it and make it worse? That's what this is going to be about. Candace responded by, you could say doubling down.

[Nick DePaolo]

You were born a man and you will die a man. That's the point I'm making. So give us a sample. I'll send my doctor to take your blood. Figure it out real quick. However you want to go about this. Hey, how about just giving us some pictures again of you growing up, you know, raising your children? That would be fine.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. So here's the problem. And if you read the entire filing, and I read 100 something pages of it last night, they actually already did directly send proof to Candace said pictures, childhood pictures of Bridget. They did send evidence of Bridget's biological motherhood of three children. They did send pictures of her first, of her wedding when she was young. And there already is sworn testimony, for example, from the children and from the. I don't know if it was sworn testimony, but the previous husband. So she's now moving goalposts and saying, take a blood test. They did also, by the way, send the birth announcement. Not a certificate, but an announcement. So newspaper clippings, pictures, sworn testimony, evidence, and this has all been provided to her for a long time. Now, remember, Candace went public and said that President Trump called her and told her to back off Bridget. The issue is, as always, there is no proof. There's no proof that it happened. This suit, just to be clear, is going to be about proof. It's going to be about substantiation. And by the way, I have had experience with this, to give you an idea with the Nashville Manifesto, and I don't know if we were able to pull the clip because I guess it's been removed. But the Nashville Manifesto, which, by the way, we have not been sued, even though the mayor said that they would, even though they said the FBI was investigating us. Here's the process that we went through. Got a tip, tracked it down, verified it. Is this authentic? We were able to confirm with a degree of certainty that it was authentic, then made sure that we could protect our source. Not only that we could keep them anonymous publicly, but that they would be protected as far as their employment and their physical safety, planned the release, timed it, and coordinated with our source and our lawyers to ensure that it was as correct as possible. That very same day when it came out, Candace said, actually, I know that this isn't true because a friend of mine said that actually the Nashville shooter, you guys may not remember this, was sexually abused by her father as a child. No proof at all. She said she would provide it. She never did.

[Dave Landau]

Watch my show later, I'll talk about this. We watched, by the way. Never did nothing.

[Steven Crowder]

Never did.

[Josh Firestein]

She got you no proof.

[Steven Crowder]

The claims that she made, no proof that Donald Trump ever called her. No proof at all. Now, we had a mountain of proof, according to the authorities of the Nashville Manifesto. She had none but claimed that we were wrong. And then she moves the goal posts. So it really comes down to what evidence does Candace have. Oh, and actually, you know what? We do have a clip. Yeah. So we went through that process, and Candace, that very same day, said this.

[Josh Firestein]

Wait, this is the cops one.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Dave Landau]

All right.

[Josh Firestein]

I didn't bring it in yet.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, you didn't bring it in yet.

[Dave Landau]

Oh, geez.

[Steven Crowder]

I got it. Now I just pray. Okay, hold on. Let me. Let me. Let me walk through this again. I do. Again.

[Dave Landau]

Okay, Set it up.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I gotta not use AI voice.

[Dave Landau]

Do it.

[Steven Crowder]

So the process tip that we get. Nashville Manifesto. Okay. Verify that it's authentic. Felt very confident in that we're able to verify that it was authentic, make sure that our source now is protected anonymously from the public, as well as their physical safety as well as their employment to the best of our abilities. Cross reference with our lawyers what is permissible to use, then time the release of the manifesto in coordination with our source to protect them. And by the way, it was confirmed to be authentic. We have not been sued, which they said they would. As far as the mayor, I believe, of Nashville, the MNPD and the FBI was looking into us. We've never even received so much as a voicemail, and we have an old cassette voicemail thing that very same day, just like Donald Trump called me, but no proof. Candace said all these people and the hundreds of thousands of dollars that have gone into verifying that Nashville story is wrong, actually. And I have the real proof, and my evidence is someone I know. And that was the end of it.

[Nick DePaolo]

I was then contacted by another source who agreed and who had seen many more of the documents which were collected. So that's what we'll be reporting on exclusively. Two officers are about to be fired for the information that was given to Steven Crowder. I was told that one of the two officers told accepted payment for the three journals that they released. I am not alleging that Steven Crowder is the person that paid them. I am just telling you that I have been told by the source that some payment took place. So maybe the officers. Maybe there's a middleman who knows, but that these two officers are going to lose their jobs. Jobs over the release of this information. So you can discern from that what you will.

[Steven Crowder]

I hope you did discern from that what you will. As far as two jobs, as far as two police officers losing their jobs. As far as our references being wrong. As far as her source. And tune into the show later to see what. Oh, that's right. Nothing happened. Not only did nothing happen, but other investigative journalists confirmed that it was false along with our sources at that point in time. And it seems like the mnpd, and it's not actually a story. So trust me, don't trust the other people. People. I'm the only trustworthy person in this because I have inside information. Donald Trump called me. I can prove none of it. And now do personal relationships versus court records.