Islamic Socialism Just Came One Step Closer: Feat. Guest Laurence Fox

Summary

Podcast Summary: Louder with Crowder

Episode: Islamic Socialism Just Came One Step Closer (feat. Laurence Fox)
Date: August 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Steven Crowder and his co-hosts discuss recent political developments in Michigan, focusing on the rise of what they characterize as "Islamic socialism" in American politics, particularly through the Democratic primaries. The episode features a long-form, candid interview with English actor-activist Laurence Fox, whose controversial free speech stance at the Oxford Union recently went viral. The conversation weaves through humor, criticisms of left-wing and Islamic political influence, and stark warnings about cultural change in the West.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Satirizing Muhammad, Islam, and Cancel Culture

• Opening Sketches & Threats:
  • The episode cold opens with irreverent, dark satirical sketches about Muhammad and Islam, pushing boundaries while immediately referencing real-world death threats and staff safety concerns ([00:00–02:38]).
  • Notable quote:

    "Guys, we've received death threats... It's a safety issue. Which is adorable."
    – Steven Crowder ([01:48])

  • Co-host "Sam" (notably Jewish, per Crowder) is warned about the dangers of self-censorship and the slippery slope of appeasing threats ([02:14]).

2. Michigan Democratic Primaries: Rise of “Islamic Socialism”

• Breakdown of Key Races:

  • Crowder decries Michigan as a “mythical” backbone of America, highlighting close ties between labor unions, socialism, and the perceived normalization of Islamic influence ([12:20+]).
  • Focuses on Abdul El-Sayed's victory in the Senate primary, labeling his campaign and policy proposals as “socialist,” and repeatedly calling out the overlap with Islamic interests.
  • Notable quote:

    "This man is an Islamist and a socialist, but I repeat myself."
    – Steven Crowder ([34:42])

  • Primary Results:
    • Cori Bush lost to Wesley Bell (Crowder calls Bell also leftist; Israel as wedge issue).
    • Sri Thanedar lost to Donovan McKinney—McKinney backed by DSA.
    • Abdul El-Sayed wins Senate primary over Haley Stevens; the panel expresses significant concern.

• Abdul El-Sayed’s Platform Discussed:
  ([17:24–25:34])

  • Defund the police
  • Mass decarceration
  • Abolishing ICE, total amnesty for undocumented immigrants
  • Medicare for All (including for undocumented immigrants)
  • Billionaire wealth tax, social programs expansion
  • Crowder comments repeatedly that none of these “serve the working class,” and that candidates like El-Sayed “buy votes with free stuff.”
  • El-Sayed is played in his own defense:

    "I’m a scientist... I like solutions that solve problems."
    – Abdul El-Sayed ([19:52])

  • Panel skeptically responds, arguing left populist economic policies are a Trojan horse for socialist authoritarianism.

• Debate on Labeling El-Sayed a Socialist:

  • El-Sayed rejects the label, claims to want to "fix capitalism," not subvert it.
  • Co-hosts challenge the lack of specifics and point to historic Republican roles in anti-monopoly regulation ([21:17–24:19]).
  • Suggested solution:

    "There should be a litmus test. Hey, do you reject communism, Marxism, socialism in all its forms? If any candidate refuses—boom, gone."
    – Steven Crowder ([14:21])

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3. Sharia Law Concerns; Muslim Political Influence

• Sharia Law Discourse:

  • El-Sayed is quoted linking Sharia bans to America’s legacy of white supremacy ([26:11]).
  • Crowder and panel push back, quoting Quran and Hadith references, warning of child marriage, dimitude, apostasy punishments, and lack of religious freedom.
  • Notable quote:

    “I think we can understand Sharia law without the Trail of Tears… We can look directly to the source.”
    – Steven Crowder ([26:41])

  • They frame libertarian tolerance as an Achilles’ heel in the West.

• Local Political Flashpoints:

  • McKinney, Texas: 5.5 acre mosque approved, prompting local outrage over the risk of imported religious law and “immigration hubs” ([37:20–40:52]).
  • Dearborn, Michigan: Used as a cautionary example of shifting demographics and values.
  • Notable moment:

    "Every country that is Islamic now—it used to be a Christian country. And we were soft Christians. And we allowed these people to come in, bring their Sharia law... and slowly kill us off left and right."
    – Lawrence Fox ([37:51])

  • Tension between governance and constituency perceptions highlighted by co-hosts.

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4. Laurence Fox at Oxford Union: Defiance, Free Speech, and Fear

• Fox’s Viral Speech Recapped:
  ([46:31–49:57], [50:03+])
  • Fox recounts his speech at Oxford, citing surveys on British Muslims’ attitudes toward depictions of Muhammad and arguing the West must resist Islam “on free speech grounds alone”.
  • Fox uses a prop “envelope” to make his point about fear, saying:

    “What lived in this envelope was your fear… of Islam and what Islam will do to you when you upset its very ogre sensitive sky wizard. And what lived in this room is a healthy and noble British tradition of suspicion of Islam.”
    – Laurence Fox ([49:24])

  • Discussion with Crowder expands the point:
    • Fox’s wife discouraged showing an actual Muhammad cartoon for family safety ([51:38]).
    • “There are parts of the United Kingdom where they will kill you… We had a very senior politician assassinated two weeks ago, and, you know, I'm happy to die. I don't mind, but my wife less so.” ([52:44])
    • Both Fox and Crowder observe that free speech is deeply circumscribed outside protected venues, with police willing to arrest those "praying silently" but not those publicly prostrating for Allah ([57:22]).
    • Fox relays a Nigerian bishop’s warning:

      “What happens is, one Muslim comes to pray in your garden… you get one Muslim, you get three Muslims… and before you know it, there's a minaret.” ([59:50])

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5. The Challenge for the U.S. and the West

• Cultural Self-Defeat:
  • Fox and Crowder decry the loss of national pride instilled by education systems, making populations “ashamed to be British” or Western ([61:54]).
  • Fox claims:

    "Our king in the United Kingdom is a Muslim. There are Christians in the United Kingdom who are Muslims and they don’t even know it." ([64:08])

  • Crowder presses Fox on whether there are enough "good Englishmen" to reclaim national culture; Fox is cautiously optimistic but underscores the importance of speaking bluntly and “nipping it in the bud” ([62:47], [64:36]).
  • The segment closes with a warning for Americans to learn from British and European mistakes regarding the politicization of Islam and free speech.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the “working class” rhetoric: ([29:54–32:47])

  • Crowder asks a rapid-fire series of sarcastic questions about what, in the Democratic agenda, truly serves the working class:

    "You're working class. Do you think that giant corporations should be forced to hire more trans Afro lesbians lest they not see favorable loans or be cut out of the business from your working class?"

• On British police and Islamic practices:

  “In Britain, they’re arresting men and women for praying silently… But if you throw down a mat and big one up for Allah, the police will literally get people out of the way to let you do that.”
  – Laurence Fox ([57:22])

• On the impossibility of integration:

  “...there is absolutely nothing that I saw… where there’s integration… It’s war.”
  – Laurence Fox ([57:56])

• On cultural weakness:

  “The UK has done an incredible job making us ashamed to be British.”
  – Laurence Fox ([61:54])

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Key Timestamps & Segments

• 00:00–02:38 – Satirical sketches, death threats, and corporate security
• 12:20–25:34 – Michigan primaries, Abdul El-Sayed’s win, left-populist policy critique
• 26:11–28:54 – Sharia law discourse; warnings about religious law
• 37:20–40:35 – McKinney, Texas mosque controversy
• 46:31–49:57 – Laurence Fox’s Oxford Union speech highlight
• 50:03–64:36 – In-studio interview with Fox: UK’s free speech crisis, personal security, immigration, education, and lessons for America

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Language & Tone

• Tone: Sharply satirical, irreverent, self-consciously “politically incorrect,” alternating between alarmism and dark humor.
• Language: Unfiltered, provocative, mixing in crass jokes, pop culture references, and blunt ideological criticisms.

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Useful for Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode provides a sweeping, combative take on the perceived convergence between progressive/Socialist political currents and increasing Islamic presence in Western democracies, using Michigan and the UK as case studies. The extensive interview with Laurence Fox deepens the critique, focusing on the existential risks to free speech and traditional Western values. The tone is deliberately abrasive, and recurring jokes and metaphors are used to highlight discomfort with the pace and direction of cultural change.

Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

Welcome to the line up live. Bring it up. Still not up. Let's just lead this off. Bring it up, bring it up. Two men. You gotta follow the puck a little faster. That's Muhammad. You see him right there? Little Muhammad. No. It's okay. People can see. It's enough. And there's look, just quick little six year old girl. He only copulates her thighs until she's nine. You know, because he's a gentleman. That's what I would have done at Oxford, by the way. I was invited and I didn't go because I would do precisely that. But our special guest today, Lawrence Fox, did. And boy, almost caused a riot. And they seem to think that it was a flex to let him know and Tommy Robinson know that there are Muslims outside who all want to burn you alive. But you know we're not going to do that here. Oh, great. Good to see that the UK is still uk. Yuk. Still taking a stand. Speaking of stand Michiganders. I don't know. Like you can't use a nuke. A few cluster bombs on Dearborn. Figuratively. Literally figuratively. We're gonna talk about the elections and just how awful they are in this country. All sides are the same. Oh, hope you like the Islamic call to prayer while you're in a park with your kids. McKinney doesn't quite feel the same way. They're booing Islam. We'll show you the recent town hall. On with the show. Okay, Stephen, that was corporate security. We have received several credible threats regarding

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

the upcoming Muhammad sketch. Hold on.

[Steven Crowder]

Which one is it? The Bob Ross happy little virgin sketch or the one where he speed dates with a suicide dust?

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Don't forget the pinata one. That one's still my favorite.

[Steven Crowder]

I do like that. Boom. 72 virgins.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

Classic.

[Steven Crowder]

Dude, this isn't funny. Guys, we've received death threats. More fought. Was legal. Is having kittens over this okay? It's a safety issue. Yes, it's a safety. He's concerned about safety. Which is adorable. Keep going. I love the one where the HR guy who made us watch a video on pronouns decides to turn him Jack Bauer over a cartoon. That video was important.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Now listen, Sam, it was all fun and games and it was just a trainee Santa joke. But now that we're talking about the religion of peace, he's like, think of the children.

[Steven Crowder]

But this is serious. There are families. Staffers in this building. Families. Sam, you're Jewish. You of all people should know how this ends up for your family. If you start self censoring to Appease these terrorists, the Jawas. To ease your security concerns, we can add a disclaimer to the video border sketch. We put a disclaimer on the screen. It says, if you're offended by this video, nobody cares. Okay, thanks.

[Lawrence Fox]

Right?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. It's more complex than that. It's not really that much more complex.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

No.

[Steven Crowder]

In any way, Sam. I don't know. I think no. Peakies. You equal Jew, Muslim, boom.

[Lawrence Fox]

You.

[Steven Crowder]

They'll kill you first.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

It's math. Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

The Jawas. Do you know what I mean, by the way, when I say Jawas? Yes, I do. Do this from the Star wars thing. Cause they're like the of that region. Okay. The sand of the region. You can't say that. I can say that.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Just did. Why not? It's a fictional character in a Star Wars.

[Steven Crowder]

You can't say that. Cause you're hr. Yeah. Plus the only Jew in Star wars was a shady car dealer. He was a scrap dealer, not a car dealer.

[Nick DePaulo]

Yeah. I have to take you to H.

[Steven Crowder]

He knew the guy. That's a great Sam. That's a great Sam. Now that's what I call POD rating. You leave my cousin Myron out of this. All right, Stay safe out there. Get out.

[Lawrence Fox]

Oh.

[Steven Crowder]

Click Rumble Premium and join now for 99 annually or $9.99 a month to get the entirely ad free experience and ever expanding roster of content creators and free speech. It's an abusive work environment I needed. Well, this pen doesn't work either.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

It does.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

What are you talking about?

[Steven Crowder]

Look at this. It just keeps spinning. If I try and click it, it's just.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

You just click.

[Nick DePaulo]

I just had it

[Steven Crowder]

apart.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

I wrote that if you don't spin your pens, you won't screw them up.

[Steven Crowder]

What? What's with you? Why do you always paint the worst case scenario? Okay, Ralph Nader. All right.

[Nick DePaulo]

I have a functioning band.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

I'm good on this.

[Steven Crowder]

All right. You Jack Layton Canadians, name that reference. Hey, question of the day. Why do you think that democratic socialism is doing so well in the United States? And how do we eradicate it? Don't say helicopter rides. It's a live show. Weekdays 11am Kat Morgan, CEO.

[Lawrence Fox]

How are you?

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Fantastic. How are you?

[Steven Crowder]

I said I needed a new pen and because my pen wasn't coming out, so Gerald came to bring me one and then I was holding it so he could. And he had a decision to make.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

I just said bail.

[Steven Crowder]

Do I run back to the desk or do I know that my ass is going to be the first thing to greet the audience? Like, come back here. Come back here, come back.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Yeah. Like, you got to let go of the baton. Come on, man. You got to hand it off.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, you were talking about hemorrhoids in the Old Testament, not.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Well, yes, but that was because God has a sense of humor.

[Nick DePaulo]

Yeah.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

He punished an entire people by giving them hemorrhoids for stealing the Ark of the Covenant.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

He's, like, flipping through the Rolodex like, plagues done it, death done it.

[Steven Crowder]

Isn't it funny? Indiana Jones had to actually soft pedal the Bible. They just look at their face, melted in reality.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Like,

[Steven Crowder]

Did you look at the Art of the Covenant?

[Nick DePaulo]

No.

[Steven Crowder]

It says, otherwise, it would be a Disney movie. Anyway. If the bit doesn't work, throw it off a cliff. That's my son's new catchphrase for some reason. November 5th at the Atlanta, Georgia Punchline Comedy Club. 6th in Philadelphia at the Rivers Casino, and 7th in Pottstown, Pennsylvania. Soul Joe's Joel's Comedy Club. Because he always dates at Nick D. Funniest man alive, Nick DePaulo.

[Nick DePaulo]

You just saw all the dates. No, I'm actually. I'm adding some before then.

[Steven Crowder]

Good.

[Nick DePaulo]

But what's. Is he. Are you guys serious about the hemorrhoid ark thing? Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, yeah.

[Nick DePaulo]

I don't.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Hemorrhage in the Old Testament. Emerods.

[Steven Crowder]

Emirates. Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Emirates. It's. It translates to hemorrhoids.

[Steven Crowder]

You gotta put a nimrod up there.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

They made. They made little representations artistically of it. I'm not kidding. And put them back in the ark and sent them back to the Jews. Like, who posed for that?

[Steven Crowder]

It's like, okay, spread. That's something you don't see in the Sistine Chapel.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

No, just like,

[Steven Crowder]

push it back. All right, I didn't.

[Lawrence Fox]

I.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

That's pretty funny.

[Nick DePaulo]

But why did he go there? Why did he pick hemorrhoids? I don't mean. Did they even exist back.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

At some point, you get bored and you're just like, yeah, let's do that.

[Steven Crowder]

And the Lord saw God.

[Nick DePaulo]

That's your answer, Father.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

I don't know.

[Nick DePaulo]

That's better.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's my answer. Sometimes violence, but not really. But sometimes. So meet this Democrat congressional candidate. You probably know it's Kirill Basin, who has been running for office in Hawaii. Aloha. I don't know if you know, this means both hello and goodbye. And it also means that if you continually threaten people, as this wannabe congressional candidate has, that you get your ass kicked on the beach. Keep in mind, this is the man he allegedly pulled out a knife. Let's go, bro.

[Nick DePaulo]

I'm good. Let him.

[Steven Crowder]

Let him do it.

[Nick DePaulo]

All right.

[Steven Crowder]

Wait, who's who? That's the congressional candidate before this.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

He.

[Steven Crowder]

And he's a limp 40 years old, playing tough.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Wow.

[Nick DePaulo]

Who's this guy?

[Steven Crowder]

A hero.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

My go.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

We go.

[Steven Crowder]

We go. You know what? That's not a bad guy. He wanted to know, made a point. What you about, Holly boy? Yeah, try. Stay right there.

[Nick DePaulo]

Looks like Gandhi getting the kicked. What did I do?

[Steven Crowder]

Can you also rewind that? By the way, just don't wind up. This is why a lot of people think a baseball bat is a good self defense. Not if you wind up. You want to joust with it? Rewind that a little bit. He did the worst thing humanly possible.

[Nick DePaulo]

Well, if you swing a bat like a bagot.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, no, but even there, like, it's like, let me grab this wicker swing set.

[Nick DePaulo]

Well, I'm not gonna punt the guy. I'm gonna go back.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

We didn't add that. That was real.

[Steven Crowder]

And here's the thing. That guy, I can tell you, has gotten away. His pretending like he's tough and he never has been. You can tell. That man was completely out of his element. Which is ironic considering that his campaign ad features the spirit of Aloha. How we fight matters just as much as what we're fighting for. The problems are real. It's the thing from the descent. We need to do it with love. We need to do it with Aloha. We need to do it urgently. Aloha isn't just a slogan. It's the operating principle behind the initiatives that we all care about. So come join us. Come be part of the love. Come be part of the urgency.

[Nick DePaulo]

Creepy.

[Steven Crowder]

Fight. Aloha fight.

[Nick DePaulo]

Hello.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

God.

[Steven Crowder]

Let me get rid of the first phrase.

[Nick DePaulo]

Nice to see. Welcome.

[Steven Crowder]

Which, by the way, this whole event has inspired a local beverage company to release, well, limited release of their new Polynesian historically accurate Hawaiian punch. Hey, look at that. They throw the infirm off cliffs. And since she is an expert in Hawaiian politics and she's been on the show many times, we are. I don't want to say please, but we welcome Hawaiian Senator Maisie Hirono to the show. Okay, Senator, thank you for joining us. Aloha. Stephen, as a guest on this show, it is my duty to ask your father in question. Not this again, please. Since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted requests for sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature for the. The Thousandth time. No.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

No.

[Steven Crowder]

Would you like to. Senator, come on. Look, we wanted to get your thoughts on the Democratic colleague of yours knocked out this weekend. The only knockout I see is you, Steven. Thank you, but I actually want to talk about how this howley was knocked out. You can make me howly. Senator, please. Doggy die. I get it. Do you know my favorite drink? I don't want to. Are you sure? I'm sure. It's native to the eye. I don't want to know your favorite Hawaiian donkey punch. Oh, my gosh. This is. You are disgusting, tool man. Steven, I'm hot enough. Gross.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

It's a very unsatisfied woman that made me queasy.

[Steven Crowder]

That's the whole projection thing. She asks everyone about sexual harassment. She's a dog in heat.

[Nick DePaulo]

She is a pig. I don't like her.

[Steven Crowder]

I will never let it go. She was the one on there saying, I can't believe that you let Mr. Crowd, Steven Crowder, a hate speaker, on your platform. All right, so, Michigan election. Look, that's my home state. I guess I was born there, lived there when I was really young, until three, and then lived there for another five or six years afterward. I'm not a fan. There's some unbelievable beauty in Michigan. The backbone. Midwest, being the backbone of the United States, is a myth. It's a lie. Lot of people are surprised that socialism is thriving. I'm not. Because socialism and big unions, big labor, they're bedfellows. They always have been. And so this is the natural progression. You might not think, hey, someone on the UAW line being paid six figures to screw in a battery knob, or whatever the hell it is. You might not think that that lends itself to welcoming your Islamic overlords with open arms.

[Lawrence Fox]

It does.

[Steven Crowder]

It does. There's no other natural sequence of events that could take place. So let me give you the need to knows. There was important Democratic primaries there. Democrat primaries, I should say. I don't like saying Democratic because it's not the Democratic Party. It's the Democrat enemy of the state. Biggest one was a Senate primary, Michigan. And the winner should definitely give you pause when people say all sides are the same. Have you looked at the winners of the Democratic primaries? Have you looked at the candidates? Have you looked at their platforms and understand what is being thrust upon you from the left? Socialism, Marxism, Communism. And by the way, that is the root of all woke. People think it's possible. Woke is so 2020. You think the left has forgotten it. That's. That's the centerpiece of their platform. So the first thing you can check the references, by the way, we make them available every show. Former squad member Cori Bush lost big time to Wesley Bell. Wesley Bell won by 59 her to 36. And everyone thought that. Well, what we're going to see in these primaries is of course the Israel thing is the central pivotal issue. Well, it's a wedge issue on the right, not so much on the left because her campaign centered around, of course, Bell's support for Israel and they rejected her. So that wasn't enough of a winning message. So I think that's an important takeaway. Then you also have.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Well, hold on. In the defense. She also had a congressional record to run on.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, that was terrible.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

She lost.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Nick DePaulo]

That doesn't help Cori Bush the moderate in that election.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

You know, I wouldn't call her that.

[Steven Crowder]

That's what's really hard.

[Nick DePaulo]

Nobody, but I guess I'm asking is the guy to the left of her? I never heard.

[Steven Crowder]

Some issues are just, it's just, it's crazy. It is actually a clown car. Right.

[Nick DePaulo]

Well, that's why I'm not, that's why none of this bothers me. But go ahead.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, no, but like you said, it's not a legitimate party anymore.

[Nick DePaulo]

When you actually look over to enemy of the state, it has been for I don't know how many years. But, but anyways, I'm threatened by it.

[Steven Crowder]

There should be a litmus test. Hey, do you reject communism, Marxism, socialism in all its forms? If any candidate refuses to, boom, gone. And likely a fine or jail sentence because communism is still illegal in this country. And you may call me old school, you may say I'm out of touch. Any chance that you get to jail, Silence, deport, remove commies. I'm pro comment. If you still agree with that, then you have Representative Sri Lanka Thenedar, the funniest person out there who actually conceded, officially lost to Donovan McKinney, who's a little bit closer. McKinney is supported by the DSA. So that you may think, oh, Thanedar is just crazy, right? Is nuts. The guy who beat him is equally nuts. He just doesn't look as nuts. And unfortunately, since Thenedar lost, if I'm saying that right or wrong, I don't care. We won't be getting any more ads like these which a lot of people haven't seen. This is an old one from him, but this is who this guy is. I am Sri Thanadar and I'm running for governor. Sri is just like me. I am an immigrant and some people tell me I have an accent. Sri is just like me. But with my ideas to fix our roads. SRI is just like me. Improve our public schools. SRI is just like me. Create good jobs and ensure health care for all. SRI is just like me. We are actually more alive than you think. It's like looking in a mirror. Sri Tanadar, the most progressive Democrat running for governor.

[Nick DePaulo]

Sri is my primary care physician.

[Steven Crowder]

That's right. No, SRI is just like me. It's like looking in a mirror. I'm retarded. Deport him, Ziggy. People forgot quantum like that.

[Nick DePaulo]

Is that Shree's real hair?

[Steven Crowder]

I doubt it.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Why would you ask that?

[Steven Crowder]

I mean.

[Nick DePaulo]

What do you mean? I want to run my fingers through it.

[Steven Crowder]

Who knows?

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Don't make us jealous.

[Steven Crowder]

The guy is just out of his mind. You usually don't get to run for office when you look that freaky. But hey, Democrats are okay with it so long as you promise free crap. Now, the important one that you would see in Michigan was the Democrat Senate primary and Abdul El Sayed one. Or at least seems to be. Right. Is this officially called?

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

They're declaring it and then CNN's covering it right now as well.

[Steven Crowder]

So at the time of the broad when we were starting the show, it wasn't 100% confirmed, but now it is. So he won, beat Haley Stevens and this is bad. So El Sayed is now going to face a Republican, Mike Rogers. And in Michigan, I will tell you, even the Republicans have to be RINOs because they do have to promise a certain amount of free crap. I don't know if you can out promise free crap from a socialist, but I'll say it has a plan.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

If and when we win this race,

[Steven Crowder]

how are you going to beat Mike

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

Rogers and their money? I want you to remind them that if we come through this. When we come through this, inshallah.

[Nick DePaulo]

I know what that means.

[Steven Crowder]

I should say what.

[Nick DePaulo]

I know what that means. God. Welcome.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

That will have taken $70 million on the chin and kept fighting back.

[Steven Crowder]

So let me give you some of his policies. Check out the references. When people say, oh, no, hold on a second. No one really meant those things. Whenever you drag the left's nose through their absurd policies. Yes, they do. His policies. If this man were. What would the left do? What would Democrats do if they had power completely unfettered? He wants to defund the police, he wants to. Decarceration means let everyone out of prison. You know, Arkham Asylum. He wants to abolish ice. And of course he wants complete and total amnes, basically a new voting bloc. Michigan would forever be blue. They would not be in play whatsoever. He wants met. But here's the thing, people go, yeah, yeah, yeah. But also, at least we're not being distracted by left, right, right. It's about the elites. He wants Medicare for all. You see that on the Marxist right. He says Medicare should be automatic for everyone and accepted everywhere. By the way, that includes for all illegal aliens. Because he would be ending ice, he would be ending deportation, he would grant them all amnesty, so it's socialized healthcare for criminals. And then he proposes a billionaire wealth tax. So the problem is all this other stuff people go, I don't really care about that. People say, that's bread and circuses, deportations, ICE, closing the border, H1BS. What are they going to do for me? That's where the Democrats can win. If that is your mindset, if that is your only messaging, if that pseudo populism is your messaging, because they go, we're going to tax billionaires and we're going to give people more free health care, that's exactly how we ended up with usaid. That's exactly how we ended up with the hundreds of billion trillions of dollars in fraud and no work requirements and Coca Cola on snap. Let me ask you this. This guy's for you. That's what he wants us. Do you believe that he would oppose Coca Cola on SNAP? Do you believe that he would require 80 work hours per month, for example, Medicaid for unemployment benefits? Of course not. Well, how is he for you? You're the one who has to pay for that. He's for the people whose votes he can buy. Despite all this defunding the police, amnesty, abolishing ice, letting people out of prisons. He insists, no, he's not a socialist. That's a bad word. Are you concerned about being labeled a socialist?

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

I think that folks who come here, like with two weeks left in the election, really, really want to label me a socialist. I don't know why, except for maybe it fits into a nice telling of a broader national story. But I'm a scientist, right? And I like solutions that solve problems. That's the approach that I've always taken.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, thanks for answering Mr. Cogsworth from Beauty and the Beast. He's quite the man, you overgrown terrorist.

[Nick DePaulo]

You know who else was scientists and doctors? Some of the guys on 9 11.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Nick DePaulo]

Forgets that. Yeah, they were actually radiologists, some of them. You know, Hamas. Yeah, they're professionals in this shithole country.

[Steven Crowder]

That's why I go, Poland, we don't need your doctors, we don't need your engineers. But here he is too, and here's what they do. He'll say, I'll say it. He tries to tell you that I'm not a socialist, but of course I want to destroy capitalism. Now he tries to act as though he would just break up big monopolies. Historically, it's actually been the opposite. And then I have of a couple a pop quiz for you here.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

I don't do ideology. I'd rather think of myself as a capitalist who actually read about capitalism in the sense that the biggest risk to capitalism was always going to be corporate consolidation and monopoly rather than government regulation. In fact, you need some government regulation to make sure that capitalism runs well. I want to make sure that our capitalism is functional rather than allowing big corporations to buy politicians to rig the system against us.

[Steven Crowder]

And this is why the silly bitcoin and weed libertarianism is dead. Because we all agree as conservatives, we don't suggest that there should be no government regulation whatsoever. It's about regulation that serves the interests of the people and is constitutionally confined. There's a role for regulation. We know that there is no role for 70,000 new IRS employees. Let me ask you this. He says, yeah, that's my problem with capitalism. Okay, then why are you running as a Democrat? Which president introduced regulation to deal with monopolies, antitrust, things like that? Does anyone know?

[Nick DePaulo]

I'm gonna go with Nixon.

[Steven Crowder]

No, it was Teddy Roosevelt.

[Nick DePaulo]

Whoa.

[Steven Crowder]

It was Teddy Roosevelt. Who by the way, couldn't be more toxically masculine. Let people do their thing. Laissez faire. Okay? We don't need government to be involved in all of our lives. But he saw the threat, so he had the three Cs. Corporate regulation, consumer protection and conservation of natural resources, the national parks, which I know some people might be opposed to, but I also understand the reason for it. By the way, initiated 45 antitrust lawsuits in total. That was Teddy Roosevelt. The rigorous life, the self determination guy. In other words, the people who want us to be free. Historically, Republicans, conservatives, those who you would consider to be far right today, we have said, well, in order for capitalism to work, we have to make sure that they are never in bed. These giant corporations, these corporate sort of oligarchs are not in bed with government. Where government can't pick winners and losers, the left has support. Remember Elizabeth Warren? Too big to fail.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Barack Obama. Billions of bailouts, some Republicans have done it, but historically we understand that it's easier to deal with decentralized 40,000 companies than four. The left wants certain companies to be too big to fail. Whether it's banks, health insurance, whether it's talking about airlines, talking about American auto manufacturing. They want monopolies, duopolies, tripopolies. Why? Because it's really easy for the government to step in and say basically we are now seizing the means of production and or distribution. They do it in a soft way through regulation that smaller businesses cannot sustain. They effectively end up controlling the big businesses. Historically it was Republicans, the right, who said for capitalism to flourish we need to make sure that there is no Big Brother government picking winners and losers. The left has supported it. He should run as a Republican if that's what he actually said.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Absolutely. And that's always been true. But he's going back to these tired talking points of tax billionaires, right, that Bernie Sanders and AOC and all these people have run on. But they haven't said one thing about how much money would that raise? How much additional money do we need to do Medicare for all? How much additional money so that everybody has to take Medicare? I don't think most people understand that you have to hire somebody that is skilled in doing the coding to file for that. Unless if you're a cash doctor, you don't have to have that person. How many extra people do we have to hire to do this? To get through the paperwork of doing that? You never get specifics. Which companies do you want to break up? What have we done? Is it the military industrial complex that we've picked three winners? Is that what your talking about? Because I would agree that's a bad idea. But list another company. Maureen.

[Nick DePaulo]

One.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Name one you would break up right now. Yeah, and tell me what. And nobody will do that. He'll just throw these things out and say see, I'm for you.

[Steven Crowder]

Because they want socialist revolution. All of the incremental, funny enough progress change that you would see from the right to improve certain industries that have lost their way, they oppose. Like hey, insurance. Yeah, you know what? It's a problem. Hey, how about we open up competition insurance across state lines? No. Well, how about we maybe look at tort reform or we look at some of these frivolous lawsuits or we should have some. No, absolutely not. Hey, when we're talking about housing, how about we actually make sure that single family housing units don't get purchased by these private investment firms that. No, BlackRock, State Street, Black Stone, sorry, Vanguard Too big to fail. Why don't you want to correct them so that market forces can keep people competitive along the way? Why they would rather see it collapse? Their acceleration is so they can say, see, government needs to step in and take over all of it. You know, like the entire energy industry. As you see with Venezuela or anywhere socialism thrives. They want revolution, so they would rather everything collapse. They want your life to become hell so that they can come in and present themselves as the only savior. So economically, he is a socialist. Just to be clear, he doesn't even flat out deny it. He just says, I don't believe in ideology. Oh, come on. Is that true, El Sayed? Inshallah, yeah.

[Nick DePaulo]

And then he's gonna tell us. I just love it. He's a clear Marxist, and he's gonna tell us how to run capitalism. Right, right. Like Trump doesn't know anything about it.

[Steven Crowder]

Right, Exactly, Exactly.

[Nick DePaulo]

I mean, it's embarrassing. I am not threatened by any of this shit, even if we lose. You know why? Because America's not gonna put up with it.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, here's the next. Okay, so economically, and I hope you're right. All right, we got that one.

[Nick DePaulo]

Pick up a gun.

[Steven Crowder]

Now let's. Now let's deal with Michigan Dearborn. Okay, what does this man think about Sharia law? Another concern. Oh, that's right. He said that Sharia law bans are tantamount to America's white supremacy and something. Something racial murder. I don't know. He's retarded.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

And the reason I wanted to go all the way back to the 1830s is because you can't understand a Sharia ban without understanding the Trail of Tears. You can't understand the efforts to uproot Muslims insane without understanding the Tulsa massacre.

[Steven Crowder]

You cannot understand the Tulsa.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

The challenges we face today without understanding white supremacy. We have to set it in the context of our history.

[Steven Crowder]

So, see, here's the thing. I think I actually can understand Sharia law without the Trail of Tears, which, by the way, is not how they presented it. We've done an entire segment on that. Maybe we should link that so people can go watch it. I think we can understand it without the Tulsa Massacre. I think we can understand it because we can look directly to the source, check the references. We'll give them to you right now. Sharia law banning it is not something we should do in America. Okay, what does Sharia law encompass? Well, violence. Quran 47. 4. When you encounter those who disbelieve, strike at their next child marriage. Hadith5143. Here's the basis, by the way, of Sharia law. The Prophet married Aisha when she was six years old, consummated the marriage when she was nine. Only humped her thighs until then. You look at women, you look at polygamy, you look at subjugation, you look at dimitude. Where if you do not convert to Islam, you actually have a curfew, you have a poll tax, you are effectively a second class citizen. This is the way that Sharia law is practiced everywhere. Not to mention death for apostasy, death for heresy. You're given a chance to subject yourself, yourself to Sharia law and become Muslim. Otherwise you're effectively a slave to the system. This is where libertarianism dies. People should be able to practice their own religions. Not if their religions demand the takeover of government and effectively the destruction of any and other all other religions, especially you know, the good one, Christianity. We serve good guy God.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

And it's also not Sharia law. And there is never an and it is just Sharia law that they want to get to. By the way, what's the only time that we've actually rolled back twice that I know of in history? There's probably some other smaller ones. Sharia law, the crusades, World War II.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Right. So that's when you're defeating these people.

[Steven Crowder]

This is the thing. You have people on the right like ah, you know what man? So just. You have libertarians, just whatever man, who cares, just let them. Oh, you're pro freedom until. No, no, hold on a second. You cannot preserve freedom by allowing those who are anti freedom to attain office and to systematically erode and destroy it. That is what socialists Marxists seek to do. They let you know. And that is what Islam seeks to do. That's why they are an unholy alliance. And there's no other alliance as dangerous or as blatant about it. This guy also by the way campaigned with and has been endorsed by even though he's not a socialist. He says known commie and praiser of Mao Hassan Piker. You know, there's one other guy that you've campaigned with that has raised eyebrows. Hasan Piker. Was campaigning with him a good idea.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

Look, I want to reach out to his viewers. He has a 3 million person platform and there are things that Hasan and I disagree with.

[Steven Crowder]

We have more reach out to us together.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

And there are things that he and I agree with.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

I think Abdul centered the needs of the working class so perfectly in his policies, but in many respects in his speeches, his run didn't start yesterday. His run didn't start six months ago. His run started in 2018 when he ran on a Medicare for all ticket

[Steven Crowder]

in the gubernatorial race.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

And I guess the people were not ready for it now, ready for it

[Steven Crowder]

back then, but they're certainly ready for

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

it now, it seems.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

On the question of whether or not we should be guaranteeing people health care or sending our money abroad to drop bombs on other people, we agree. I think we should be providing health care here. On the question of taking on the fascism of the Trump administration, we agree we should probably take that on.

[Steven Crowder]

Right, the fascism as opposed to Sharia law.

[Nick DePaulo]

They never define fascism. They don't even know what it is.

[Steven Crowder]

No, they don't. They don't. Which how they define it. I go, okay, I'm a fascist. We did an entire segment. Like, if it's this guy or Pinochet, I'm okay with throwing commies off helicopters. I'm not saying that I'm actually a fascist. Kind of a fascist. When we say working class, they just throw that in there. Hey, there's one part that people agree with. We shouldn't be funding bombs overseas and not taking care of our people. All right, so then they apply to see, I'm for the working class. Let me ask you right now. If you're watching working class, by the way, that encompasses anyone, whether you are a fast food worker or a small business owner or someone who owns some franchises and you make a couple million dollars a year. You're working class. You're working. Let me ask you. He's for the working class. Do you want a better insurance plan or do you want to be on Medicare or Medicaid? Do you want the system improved or do you want everyone to be on Meta? You're working class. Let me ask you this. Do you want things to be more affordable, the things that you choose to purchase, or do you want to be on SNAP using ebt, and do you think that that should include Coca Cola and Fanta? You're working class. Are you offended? Are you vitriolically opposed to the idea of people meeting basic work requirements like 80 hours a week or drug tests or identification verification for people to receive welfare and unemployment benefits? You're working class. Are these your issues? You're working class. Do you believe that someone who got a master's in Women's studies shouldn't have to pay it back and you should foot the bill? You're working class. Hey, you're working class. Do you believe that we should ban Asians from Harvard, Brown and Ivy League schools in the name of social equity so that we put more black people in there who score lower on the SATs and have lower GPA? You're working class. Is that what you think? You're working class. Do you think that giant corporations should be forced to hire more trans Afro lesbians lest they not see favorable loans or be cut out of the business from your working class? You're working class. Should you be bailing out big banks? Do you think that BlackRock State Street Vanguard should be too big to fail and able to buy up your entire neighborhood so that they can charge you more rent? And to an entire generation of people who will own nothing and like it? You're working class. Hey, you're working class. Do you think that you shouldn't be allowed to drive an suv and every single car you have should have that auto start stop and a bunch of safety features and and eco friendly features that limit what you can do as far as transporting your family? You're working class. You think those choices should be limited? You're working class. Should you pay for someone's Fanta on Social Security or pay for someone's. Should you pay for someone's Coca Cola while you're not allowed to purchase a Big Gulp? You're working class. You support fat pride. You're working class. You pay for plan B for every single woman on earth who can't keep their legs closed. You're working class. He's for the working class. Tell me what part of the Democrat. You're working class. Men should be in women's sports. You're working class. Let all violent prisoners out. You know what? Let's soften it. You're working class. No cash bail where they can commit violent crimes and return to the streets. You're working class. What part of these people and their platform is for you? Working class. It sounds good. And they try and go look, look, look. This war therefore insert all of the other socialism here. I will say this, this man does have one Achilles only heel like you

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

think about if you're on Instagram. My team has has access to my Instagram account and like the things that I actually look at on Instagram.

[Steven Crowder]

Right? Of course we get served that on your for you page.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

But then like every third video that scrolls on its own is going to be some onlyfans model and it's because it clocked me as being a 40 some year old man.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no, that's not why. It didn't just clock you as a 40 something year old man. Someone explained to him how the algorithms work. This is from. We use signals to predict which reels people might like. Signals include user activity like watch time retention, shares, likes and comments. It's showing you what you like. He could have just been watching it way too long. Mine shows me a bunch of judo and jiu jitsu videos, along with a few political things every now and then. And cigar stuff. His is hardcore pornography.

[Nick DePaulo]

I get nothing but beheadings.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, there you go.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

He used to until he discovered Alicia Ria fans.

[Steven Crowder]

That's like mine at nighttime. It gives me like ASMR history for sleep. For him it gives him like, here's a snuff video.

[Nick DePaulo]

Yes, but I. It's my white noise when I go to sleep.

[Steven Crowder]

This man is an Islamist and a socialist. But I repeat myself. And you're going to see a lot more of this. You're gonna see this from the dsa. You're going to see this from these Sharia supporters. You're going to see this from these Somali immigrants. Just to be clear, because they are one and the same as Karl Box, as Vladimir Lenin. Vladimir Lenin is a good way to sort of look at the purist implementation of Marxism. Here's a quote from capitalism. Mankind can pass directly only to socialism. Our party looks farther ahead. Socialism must inevitably evolve gradually into communism, not should. Maybe it could. There's no other way for it to go. It's the misdirect. It's setting socialism as a setup with the jab to communism. Where do you go? Where do you go when the government effectively has a monopoly on everything? Well, haven't seized the means of production, all of it yet. Because people voted the folks in who want to do that. But now they're in. You don't get to vote your way out for proof. Look at any country that started as socialism and how they veered. Don't say Norway or Scandinavian country. Shut up. We've put that to bed a long time ago. And if communism isn't your thing, you actually own a house. Consider your options with American financing. Hey, two man, you okay? Oh, yeah, yeah. Just trying to get these stitches out, but I can't really see what I'm doing. You're doing it yourself. Yeah, I always do it myself. Yeah, that's not gonna work. Here, let me help. Are those sterile? Ah, probably.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Don't worry about it. Just turn around.

[Lawrence Fox]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

No, trust me, trust me, trust me. Trust the professionals. Whether it's a medical procedure or financing your home. Call the pros at American financing. Today at 1-800-974-6500 or visit www.americanfinancing.net. crowder, NML 182334. If you start today, you may even delay up to two mortgage payments. By the way, housing prices are becoming slightly more reasonable.

[Nick DePaulo]

They are.

[Steven Crowder]

There's a good change. Why are you wincing?

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

No, that's. That's actually. I like it. That's going to be good for a lot of people.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

It's going to shut some other people up on social media that I do not like at all right now, too.

[Steven Crowder]

All right, well, now's not the time for your personal vendettas. But let's talk about McKinney, Texas. They just unanimously approved a plan for a five and a half acre mosque.

[Nick DePaulo]

What?

[Steven Crowder]

So here are the representatives in what should be a predominantly red county. Right. Where you would think they wouldn't. Wouldn't even consider trying it. But there's a disconnect between those who govern and those who live with it, and that's why the locals were pissed. I'm a Sharia law survivor from Iran. You look like a fake Sherpa.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Okay.

[Lawrence Fox]

This is a dangerous ideology you're allowing in their country.

[Steven Crowder]

Every country that is Islamic now. It used to be a Christian country, and we were soft Christians. And we allowed these people to come in, bring their Sharia law into their countries, and slowly kill us off left and right. Americans are sadly mistaken when they look at this from their own frame of reference. We can't fathom anyone living under a system like Islam. It's a different set of rules from the Judeo Christian values that we live by.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

Islam.

[Steven Crowder]

There is no separation of church and state, Child marriage, honor killings.

[Nick DePaulo]

Don't tell me it can't happen here

[Steven Crowder]

because it's already happened in Texas where

[Nick DePaulo]

you kill a member of your own

[Steven Crowder]

family because they dishonored the family, beating

[Nick DePaulo]

your wife, polygamy, all condoned under Sharia. Sounds like my house was growing up.

[Steven Crowder]

He said in the video that this new McKinney Mosque will be the immigration hub for Muslims all over the United States and the world. These are his words. Governor Abbott, ban him of this mosque when Christians become extremists. Because somebody said all religions have extremists in it.

[Nick DePaulo]

I really believe when Christians become extremists, they save lives.

[Steven Crowder]

They do not go and kill other people. You know, when Christians become extremists, they send out missionaries.

[Nick DePaulo]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Now this one, grandma, I will say, didn't hesitate to give the former mayor there, George Fuller, who's an Islam apologist. A piece of her mind also bordering on committing assault, but I'll allow it. Watch here. She grabs him. She has a note. Look at that. Look at that.

[Lawrence Fox]

That.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

Look at.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, he. He didn't even have a shirt pocket. She just tried to shove it in his.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

I think.

[Steven Crowder]

I think you should be able to contact your local rep that way.

[Nick DePaulo]

There's my grandmother holding up a meatball.

[Steven Crowder]

The only thing that would have made that better is if it was in Ohio and it was Kasich. Hey, hey. You're not gonna take my heart out. She's taking my heart. We need to normalize this coast to co people speaking up. And this is. Look, look. Texas is much better than many states, but if you give them a foothold, then you end up with Dearborn. This is certainly well past that in

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

McKinney, Texas, and it's happening all over. We've talked about this before. There are certain places in New Jersey and around kind of the DFW and North Houston area that this is absolutely happening right now. And people have to wake up. It's not just like, oh, it's just another religion moving in next door. No.

[Steven Crowder]

Nope.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Be done with it. We cannot have this.

[Steven Crowder]

How. How about this? You can build your mosque if and only if you, as we have, hire Nick DePaolo as your bathroom attendant.

[Nick DePaulo]

What's a mint?

[Steven Crowder]

Getting sleepy.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Sleeping.

[Nick DePaulo]

Oh, hey. How are you? Hey, use that at your own risk. Been on the Fritz since about 09.

[Steven Crowder]

Aren't you the bathroom attendant?

[Nick DePaulo]

Yes, I am.

[Steven Crowder]

Tend to it.

[Nick DePaulo]

You want to look like a plumber. Don't you have your own bathroom? Anyways, you're the boss here.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. It's a common misconception that you have

[Nick DePaulo]

your own bathroom, that you're the boss.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, yeah, I do. You caught me.

[Nick DePaulo]

Okay. Well, I caught.

[Steven Crowder]

I wanted to see what all this is about, because people in the office, it's an event. That's why we brought you, to make it fun.

[Nick DePaulo]

It's an event. Where you from? Somalia? This is what you do. You walk in. That's called the toilet. Okay? Guy who's got a plate in his head, you walk towards that, pull your zipper down, you aim at the toilet, and then you. While you sit down, and then do your thing.

[Steven Crowder]

See, this is what I was talking about.

[Nick DePaulo]

It's a little complicated.

[Steven Crowder]

It's fun.

[Nick DePaulo]

Well, it's fun.

[Steven Crowder]

It's a good idea. I'm glad we did this. And you should feel good about this. Just tone it down. You're a little bit Rough around the edges For a bathroom attendant, a little

[Nick DePaulo]

rough around the edges. So you've seen this fat guy in here? A couple hours ago, guy dropped a deuce. Had my eyes watering for 48 hours. Ugh. God, it was like mustard gas. Remember Saad dropped that on his own? People went to dead ladies with babies in the street. It was worse than that.

[Steven Crowder]

You know what, General MacArthur? I think I'm just gonna wash my hands.

[Nick DePaulo]

Okay. All right. You do that. You might want to boil them. I haven't cleaned this place for a while.

[Steven Crowder]

Soap. Soap.

[Nick DePaulo]

You don't need soap when you a girl.

[Steven Crowder]

We have tampons right next to the gum.

[Nick DePaulo]

That's where they belong. What? They don't go together. Have you ever been to Walmart? You can get a snow tie next to a pork chop.

[Steven Crowder]

Can I have gum?

[Nick DePaulo]

Yeah. Here you go. Holy. I almost broke my false teeth. Take it easy. Tell your friends about me.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, it's more than a job. It's a career.

[Nick DePaulo]

Oh, my God. I did. What's a mint?

[Steven Crowder]

Poor, poor Nick. You really sick.

[Lawrence Fox]

Like shrapnel.

[Nick DePaulo]

I got my things in my. I'm getting the actual.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, I'm glad you're on the men. I mean, people. We said. We almost lost Nick. He had a true thing. And then it.

[Lawrence Fox]

We.

[Steven Crowder]

It went septic.

[Nick DePaulo]

Yeah, I came within a couple of. And if I was here, like, at the hotel, oh, man, my wife would be very happy right now. Yeah, I would have been. I would have probably. I don't know if I would have woke up.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I know.

[Nick DePaulo]

I'm not gonna. What do you. Am I gonna call down the front desk? First of all, I didn't have a thermometer. I don't bring that with me when I travel.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Right.

[Nick DePaulo]

103 and a half.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Oh, my gosh.

[Nick DePaulo]

When I heard that, I go, yeah, we better go. And I was soaked, dude. Yeah, I was. I was actually, like, it was winter to me. This is, you know, an eight now. And, yeah, it was pretty. It was pretty creepy.

[Steven Crowder]

It's just crazy when we talk about, like, the good old days, like, yeah, that is guaranteed death. Also, you have the sniffles. Hope you enjoy the afterlife. But right now, it's important to enjoy the here and now. And it's important to make good decisions, which is why you shouldn't. Sex work is not real work. So we don't take tips from you. We give you the tips. It's time for reverse Super Chat. Folks at Rumble Wallet are giving back, so they're doing a reverse super chat. 50 free rumble premium subscriptions. Just gifted thanks to to Rumble Wallet. Right now you can get $5 in US stablecoin. Click the link in the description, use that promo code CROWDER5 and it's your one stop shop. If you don't know how to enter in with crypto and you want to make it simple, this is a great way to do that. If you were gifted a super chat here, just tag me on social media and let us know how you enjoy everything ad free and 100% more show. Also go and call your family because they're very disappointed in you. Reverse super check on. All right, we do have a guest and I'll just let you know this now because I don't want to interrupt the conversation. We'll be going longer on Rumble Premium. Mug club is Rumble Premium. So if you want to keep the lights on, if you want us to be able to continue doing the show, the free portion only exists because of those who Support us. It's $9 a month or you can go $99 a year get this wonderful hand etched mug. Once they're gone, they're gone. You get 100% more show, you get to continue the guest interviews and you get everything ad free. All these other creators, you're not just paying, hitting a patreon for one spot. You get dozens of creators and a lot of extra content. And like I said, free show only exists with this because you know, we've been demonetized on YouTube for a very, very, very long time and no foreign caliphate wants to fund us. Speaking of foreign, you usually think people who are minorities, but the English are foreign. Lawrence Fox is our next guest and he is a patriot. He's been on the show before and he's backed by popular demand. He's gone viral this week for speech at the Oxford Union. Now a little inside baseball. I was invited to go to the Oxford Union. We were really close to doing it and then due to security concerns, did not.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Because we wanted to keep your head on your shoulders. Yeah, I mean, that's where it belongs.

[Steven Crowder]

As information started coming in, we realized my safety security was only guaranteed while I was in that specific union. And outside of that, we were kind of on our own. And I was like, you guys know the things that I've said, right? That you could just have a jumbotron in my Quran challenge playing on a, playing on a projector screen and I'm never coming back. But this man decided to take these people to task, being a native there. This clip I want to show you little longer than we usually would. But I need you to watch all of it because he makes a brilliant point and I don't know that he could have made it any other way. This is Lawrence Fox.

[Lawrence Fox]

Most important to me and most important to me is the free speech of this. So. So let's get this out, shall we? 78% of British Muslims believe that no publication should publish pictures of Muhammad. An overwhelming majority that rises. That rises to 87%. That's one. That's nine out of every 10 Muslims that are walking the streets today. In a country which absolutely abandoned. Abandoned blasphemy laws, suspicion is not strong enough word. The west should resist Islam in the strongest terms on free speech grounds alone. So here we are with this cartoon, right? And it's time to show that I will not submit. I will not adhere to the religious laws of far off places. Now my wife. Wife asked me not to show this for fear of repercussions in my family. But I told her that if I did not then I had already submitted to Islam. So here we are.

[Steven Crowder]

Is it not enough that half the team that invited you to this debate were Muslim women who wanted to hear out your expression and your arguments. Is it not enough that I as a Muslim president have invited you to this chamber to give your arguments? Sure. Now look at the picture. Enough justification and evidence we to believe that we do believe in free speech. I would not become the president of a free speech society. You don't.

[Nick DePaulo]

Why are you standing up right now? Sit down and shut up.

[Lawrence Fox]

Thank you very much. May. May I finish? Excuse me.

[Steven Crowder]

Point of order having been raised. I'll hear the ex librarian. It's a long time since I've been

[Lawrence Fox]

in this chamber and knew the rules off by heart.

[Steven Crowder]

But in the House of Commons and we model ourselves on the House of Commons props are not allowed. I will wonder whether the rule on props. Is there a rule on notes? Is he allowed a doodle?

[Nick DePaulo]

I think Karakov just can't.

[Lawrence Fox]

The honorable gentleman for his point of order in the. In. Excuse me for one second.

[Nick DePaulo]

One. One moment.

[Lawrence Fox]

In the absence Mr. Fox.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

One moment.

[Lawrence Fox]

Mr. Fox.

[Nick DePaulo]

You're watching cowardice in action.

[Lawrence Fox]

Is what you're watching helpful to inform the others at least my 4 years old society that band was not extended

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

and didn't

[Lawrence Fox]

thank you so. Right. I just want to wrap this up.

[Steven Crowder]

I am going to rule on the point of order. There is no bar in the forms of the House against the use of props. However, I would encourage Mr. Fox to make the point and Move on.

[Lawrence Fox]

I was until points of order. So it is in that spirit that I will not submit that I show you this as an Englishman who believes in free speech.

[Steven Crowder]

I will not submit. I will not look at that Muslim. He's like, oh, I was really. I was going to have to kill him.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Don't want to have to, but I will.

[Lawrence Fox]

Who is it? So I think which rather proves the point of the point I was trying to make, that in this envelope lived your fear and your fear of Islam and what Islam will do to you. That when you. When you upset its very ogre. Sensitive sky wizard. And what lived in this room is a healthy and brilliant and noble British tradition of suspicion of Islam. I encourage you to pass the motion. Thank you very much, man.

[Steven Crowder]

And you can follow him on X at Lazafox. L O Z Z A Fox will have the handle up underneath her.

[Co-host or Producer (possibly Maureen)]

Please.

[Steven Crowder]

Welcome back to the show. The brass paired Lawrence Fox. Hello, sir. Can you see me? Hear me? You're looking healthier than last time. Last time you kind of looked like, you know, St. Jude's Hospital.

[Lawrence Fox]

I think I look like. My wife occasionally says that I look like a Chernobyl child is what she calls me.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no, not now. Not now. You look like that actor who wasn't Wimbledon. You know the guy, he's British. Kind of looks like the Coldplay guy.

[Lawrence Fox]

Yeah, he's called Paul Better. No, Paul Better knee. But I call him Paul Better than me.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, no, you're the better. You wouldn't be the best man. You'd be the better man.

[Lawrence Fox]

But listen. Yeah, listen, if you're worried about having your head chopped off, you just get a little target for them.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, that's. People don't realize that's why we actually have the leather necks. That's where it comes from. Before I get. What are you smoking there? Is that because you guys have access to the Cuban stuff?

[Lawrence Fox]

This is a Cuban Davidoff.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, very, very nice.

[Nick DePaulo]

Is tracheotomy. He's gonna go right with that.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, someone's gonna jab him with a. Breathe your cigar through here, funny man. Let me ask you. I have a first off, great point, great point that you made that, hey, this is enough. Just the free speech component is enough. Before we get to the grooming, before we get to the child brides, before we get. The free speech stance is incompatible with the West. And I think you lasered in on that. I really mean that. So hats off to you. Do you think you could have. Why didn't you show an actual picture of Muhammad, though? That would have been funner.

[Lawrence Fox]

My wife, bear in mind, I'm not, you know, I'm a bit incautious about some of the stuff I say out loud, like you often. And my wife is quite concerned about us and our children being blown up. And so she says, you know, it doesn't really matter what cartoon you show. They'll be so frightened by the time you get to that point that the room will be so tense that you prove the point. You could have Mickey Mouse. You could have anything in the envelope. And I thought, actually, it could kind of double makes the point that I don't want to show it. I've campaigned strongly for a guy who's still living in fear of his life in England because he stupidly showed a picture of this cartoon from Charlie Hebdo in Britain. And I. And I just thought. I thought about this speech for a long time, and I thought, you know what I mean? I'm a Christian, so I want to be gracious. I don't want to attack Muslims. I want to attack Islam. And I want to attack Islam in a way that secular people will understand, which is, can you disagree with an ideology?

[Steven Crowder]

Well, that was.

[Lawrence Fox]

The answer is no.

[Steven Crowder]

That was all very well articulated. And of course, you get extra points because of the accent. So people assume you have a few more IQ points than the rest of us. But it sounded a little bit like justification of not doing what you really wanted because the woman would be mad.

[Lawrence Fox]

Well, I do, but, you know, it's a real problem in the uk. There are parts of the United Kingdom where they will kill you. We had a very senior politician was assassinated two weeks ago, and, you know, I'm happy to die. I don't mind, but my wife less so. And I agree with her. And I said it on my kids to get caught in the blast or. Well, Ahmed and Iqbal are coming in from the side. I'm gonna need her to get at least one of them.

[Guest Politician (possibly Abdul El Sayed)]

Yes.

[Lawrence Fox]

You know, I need. I need us all alive to take down as many as we can do.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, you know, it's funny because I was invited to do it, and the President of Oxford is a pro Palestinian lady. Now, the previous president cheered or celebrated the death of Charlie Kirk, and Gerald knew this one was all planned. I said, well, here you go. Here's what I would be doing as far as sort of an outline for a speech. And it would have included a picture of Muhammad, and it would have included, by the way, tearing up both a Bible and a Quran to make the point, saying, I don't feel good about this, but God as a Christian doesn't live in this. It doesn't live. There are hundreds of millions of other Bibles, okay, no one's going to kill you now if we do the Quran to make the point. And we were like, okay, how do we deal with security again? I've already painted Muhammad. I did a Bob Ross sketch. We realized there was a very, very strong likelihood, like you said, of me not making it out of there. And I think that a lot of the people in that union would have been happy about it. That's one thing that I definitely noticed. Can I play some clips just for people who may have missed it, where they believe that it was a flex to let people like you and Tommy Robinson know that there are people out there who want to be violent and I'm not one of them. But hey, hey, hey, all the violence, huh? Why are you doing that? So here is one actually, where she was telling Tommy Robinson, who was there that day, that all, all the pro Islam supporters outside would kill him if not for her good graces. Stephen Yatley Lenin, known to his hooligans as Tommy Robinson. Stephen, there is a crowd outside rioting against you tonight. And without the protection and generosity of a Muslim Palestinian president and a mostly South Asian executive committee, you would be quite literally cooked. Why the clap? I don't understand. I don't understand that interaction, the clap at all, the point that she's making. I'm one of the very few exceptions. What was the tone and tenor while you were there? It must have been insanely intense.

[Lawrence Fox]

Well, you were wise to avoid the debate. So what happened was before the debate happened, we were busting, we had the police. The police are totally on the side of the Pali, we call them Pali rally, Pali Wally, you know, the Palestine action fans. And they were totally on their side. And you throw in a few non binaries and a few men with breasts and you've got the real thing. And so we drove in and then the whole thing was shut off by these crowds. And I had elderly people who were coming and they were, you know, it was horrible. And we were actually moved by my security team. I had a four man special forces team, you know, just to stand up and show a cartoon. How stupid are we in the West? And they moved me from the hotel at three o' clock in the morning. I was lying there fast asleep and we got tapped on the shoulder by the security and we gotta go. And we were evac from this place. So the, the, the, the point is, it's absolutely insane that someone will stand up and goes, isn't it enough that I, as a Muslim woman, have invited you to talk and we believe in free speech? And I'm like, no, it's not enough because you don't want me to show the cartoon of your sky wizard, so calm down. And, and then this, this other guy.

[Nick DePaulo]

Who.

[Lawrence Fox]

This other guy. I mean, it's not much. He's like, you can't show props. He's like a famous conservative in the UK. He's like a Catholic conservative. You've got 26 children all named after Latin things in the dictionary, you know, and he's standing up, arguing for them. And it was insane. So. So my point, which I think was pretty well made, is we cannot live beside the fact that I'm a Christian and we have a separation of church and state. To put that aside for a second on a free speech thing, you're telling me that I either have to do exactly what you say, which is submit to you, or we have to go to war?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Lawrence Fox]

I mean, what is it? It's insane. If you want me to go to war, I don't want my kids to go to war with these people.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, also, I think some other people may not know this, but we were very aware, again, because of the plans to go there. Your speech is only protected in that union at that moment in time. I would wager that many of the things that you said, I didn't see all of it. If you would have said outside of that union, could land you in the crosshairs of the police there and fines for your speech, 100%.

[Lawrence Fox]

In Britain, they're arresting men and women for praying silently in what we call exclusion zones outside baby murder centers. But if you want to throw down a mat and big one up for Allah in the uk, the police will literally get people out of the way to let you do that. And, you know, Gadsak calls it suicidal empathy, but it's insane because there is absolutely nothing that I saw that night or in any other part of this discussion where there's integration even is on the table. No, it's like it's war.

[Steven Crowder]

No, I don't, I don't. Well, first off, it's not possible and it's not what they want. It's simply not what the, the religion of Islam calls these people to do. And I. Now you have a lot of people, you know, I call them on the Marxist right, who go, actually, all this is the work of the Jews. And by the way, AIPAC can go screw themselves with a wire brush. And I understand that Netanyahu has some problems. He's probably gonna be drafted up for war crimes. I don't think we should be sending them money. We talk about this all the time. But the idea that the Jews are the ones who have injected this ideology for centuries into Islam, making it incompatible with the west, it's very worrisome because many people simply haven't opened up a Quran and honestly read a chapter or two. And the fact that in the uk, you know, this sort of the center of Western civilization, I get it. We're your number one draft pick. We got away that you have to have a designated space to speak freely or to show a cartoon. That begs the question, is it too far gone? What's the reception been like? Do you think there are enough good Englishmen to stand up and take it back? Because it does need to be taken back.

[Lawrence Fox]

Two things. When Churchill, in that speech, I talked about this as well. When Churchill decided that fascism was really bad and we should probably resist that. It was an unpopular choice, you know, and it was not. It was not many, much more than the handful of people who stood up to reclaim our country. And on the second level, I'm good friends with a Nigerian bishop who lost, who had 100 of his congregation slaughtered on Palm Sunday. And he turned around and he said to me the most interesting thing, and this is why it's, I think, important for America, that he said, what happens is one Muslim comes to pray in your garden. If you hire him, you know, whatever, Someone comes to work and he puts a map.

[Steven Crowder]

We hire Mexicans, but.

[Lawrence Fox]

Yes, I know. But in England, you know, we just import the Taliban. You know, we're a bit more progressive than you guys.

[Nick DePaulo]

Sure.

[Lawrence Fox]

Anyway, he says, the Nigerian bishop, in his lovely little Nigerian bishop voice, says, you must take the sapling and return it to where it belongs, which is with other Muslims. So. Because what happens is you get one Muslim, you get three Muslims, five, 10, 15. They put rocks around, they build a church, and before you know, I mean, a mosque. And before you know it, there's a minaret. And actually, what I've been inspired by watching in Americans is the fact that there is a deep suspicion in American culture, especially the wonderful free speech in America, of Islam. Because, you know, you guys are going, hang on, we've got a problem now. Britain didn't even turn on the fact that we had a problem for. For decades, decades before we turned around and said, hang on, I can't take my dog for a walk.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Lawrence Fox]

You know, in this area. It's insane.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, well, I, I think that you also have the benefit of being able to see it through that lens. You know, I was raised in Canada. My first encounter with this was I was banned from performing at a college because they said they had a cultural fair, something, something Islam. And I had jokes, this is me at 18 years old, about Muhammad. I wasn't even really a political comedian. It was just sort of inherent to me where I had some bits that I thought were funny. I said, well, wait a second. I just watched someone pantomime and gang bang at a truck stop and talk about the flying spaghetti Monster with basically tried to turn Hitchens into a standup bit, which I'm fine with. But. But I can't do a clean bit on Islam or I had a bit on wiping with your hand. It was just silly stuff. And I realized, oh, wow, this is absolutely a double standard. And let me ask you, why do you think it's been. I know in Canada, Canada's a subjugated people. The whole culture of guns that people don't get with the United States is exactly why we also have the robust First Amendment like Canada. The comparisons, they, they kneeled, they knelt for the king. They said, sure, okay, we give. And the United States said, no, no, no, no, we're not going to do this. And they fought for their freedom. So it's a very different culture. Do you think that is maybe why so many of your people have been okay with the idea of being conquered?

[Lawrence Fox]

I think the education system in the United Kingdom has done an incredible job of making us ashamed to be British. So you'll never learn in a school. My son doesn't get taught in school. How. How Britain ended the transatlantic slave trade for Britain. He gets taught that Britain is a horrible, racist, misogynistic, colonizing country. But you, again, you have the same dichotomy hits your brain. It's like when noble Muslims come to Britain. It's great. But if we went to Riyadh and wanted to open up, you know, Singh, the herald angels sing and do a Christmas fair. There's no, not a venue that will hold us. So we, we are so demoralized. But fortunately, the British being the British, we are good at occasionally at something. We're really pissed off now. So you can fully expect what I did my job.

[Steven Crowder]

Do you think there are enough though? Do you think there are based. Especially after your speech and the reception. Do you get the sense that there are enough who are pissed off.

[Lawrence Fox]

Yeah, yeah. And there are enough, what I like to call cultural Muslims who are pissed off to say, you know, I had a Muslim stop me in the street the other day and went, I saw your speech and I was like, cool, are you gonna kill me? And he's like, no. And he was like, no, no, Muslims. Most Muslim men are like, fine with you taking the piss out of Allah. And I'm like, no, you're not a Muslim, dude. Yeah, Muslims want to get me right in the cross. It's a different thing. But, you know, the thing is, Britain does get to a point where we just go, we've had enough of this crap now. And we have had enough. So I felt my job was to give permission for people to turn around and say, you can say the same thing to them. And, you know, if you have an audience, you might as well use it to give people permission to say horribly, far right extremist things like, I don't want my child wrapped in a bin bag and told that she can get married when she's had her first period. Yeah, it's disgusting.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, depends. Also, Muhammad picked them, made his selections before they had their first period, but only. Only humped their thighs until they had their first period. So that's what we call grooming here. They just call it, you know, growing traditional men.

[Nick DePaulo]

High school.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, exactly, high school. Let me ask you, do you have an audience? You do have an audience right now. So most of them American, but what would you say to them? What would be your biggest takeaway in your warning? And then we'll continue on Rumble Premium.

[Lawrence Fox]

It's an idea in Bishop's Point. Take the sapling where you see it. Where you see the peaceful, tolerant, observant Muslim when they give you the verses about how you must be respectful of everyone around. Around you. That. That verse, those verses are aimed only at Muslims living in a minority in other countries. You allow Islam to get to 10 in your country, you are going to be Islamic. Our king in the United Kingdom is a Muslim. There are Christians in the United Kingdom who are Muslims and they don't even know it. And that's the terrifying thing he's saying.

[Nick DePaulo]

Nip it in the bud.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. A 10%, though. And I want to talk more about that, that 10 number, because I've read about that and I know that it's not just picked arbitrarily. So. So we're going to continue. If you guys are not a member, we'll take your questions. Also, some more clips for Mr. Lawrence Fox. Click that button, you can follow him. And Laza Fox on X. It feels like a slur to say, but that's his handle. Stay with us, Mr. Fox. We'll continue in just a second.