Jon Stewart's Kaitlin Collins Interview Will Piss You Off

Summary

Podcast Summary: Louder with Crowder

Episode: Jon Stewart's Kaitlin Collins Interview Will Piss You Off
Air Date: July 28, 2026
Host: Steven Crowder
Main Theme: The episode blends comedic and critical commentary on current political discourse, focusing on accusations of fascism, media integrity (especially concerning Jon Stewart and Kaitlan Collins), and trans issues, while exploring how historical fascism is invoked in American debate.

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Episode Overview

Steven Crowder and his regular panel dissect current news stories through a politically conservative and irreverent lens. The episode’s central focus is on Jon Stewart’s interview with Kaitlan Collins and related themes of media partisanship and bias, the misuse of “fascism” in modern debate, and a conventional critique of left-wing cultural and political trends, particularly regarding gender issues and dating norms.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Riffs and Setup (00:00–03:24)

• Crowder opens with characteristic self-deprecating humor about his appearance and segues into the main topics: the misuse of the term “fascism,” the media’s current failures, and Dylan Mulvaney’s public reappearance.
• Quote: “This is not going well. The case for fascism—and what I mean by that is when fascism as the left defines it historically is not necessary...” (Crowder, 00:00)

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2. The “Dutch Date” and Modern Dating Culture (04:02–14:20)

• The panel mocks a viral TikTok rant from a Nigerian woman upset at having to pay her share on a date (“Dutch”).
• The hosts lampoon women’s entitlement in dating, suggesting men are just “checking out” of the process due to modern attitudes.
• Crowder’s critique: Dating norms are now transactional with women leveraging free meals, while men are criticized for setting boundaries.
• Quote: "Lunch date is a good idea... men are checking out for exactly this reason. How about just starting with, hey, maybe this guy isn’t disrespecting you. Maybe he’s been burned..." (Crowder, 12:52)

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3. Dylan Mulvaney, Trump, and the Media (15:50–29:10)

• President Trump recently compared Kaitlan Collins to Dylan Mulvaney in a joke, sparking a response from Mulvaney.
• Crowder and his crew deride Mulvaney, calling their public persona narcissistic and a media-manufactured attention seeker.
• They object strongly to the expectation to use preferred pronouns or labels for Mulvaney, framing it as coerced language.
• Quote: “The fact that anybody expects, let alone demands me to acknowledge or refer to this person as anything other than a deranged freak show is coercion.” (Crowder, 17:48)
• Crowder: “Once I became entirely self-absorbed with the superficial outwardly, my life started having meaning. That's what they want you to believe.” (Crowder, 25:36)

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4. Jon Stewart & Kaitlan Collins: Media Malpractice? (32:16–49:50)

• Crowder critiques Jon Stewart’s Daily Show interview with CNN’s Kaitlan Collins as “uncomfortable,” arguing both are trying to hide their bias under a veneer of objectivity.
• Stewart tries to corner Collins into trashing Trump, but according to Crowder, she stonewalls and leans on the “straight shooter” defense.
• Crowder asserts Watergate history is misunderstood in media discourse, suggesting Nixon was railroaded by leftist media and the deep state.
• Quote: “No one actually takes CNN seriously. It's like she didn't get the memo and he didn’t get the memo.” (Crowder, 35:34)
• Defending Nixon: “Nixon didn’t order or know about the break-in. He was never actually accused of ordering or knowing about the break-in... Watergate is not what you've been told.” (Crowder, 37:48–39:09)
• Crowder frames left-wing media as overlooking Democratic corruption while exaggerating Republican misdeeds.

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5. What About Corruption? Biden, Obama, Trump (41:27–45:48)

• Crowder insists recent stories about Trump’s business dealings (like Truth Social) are being exaggerated, especially compared to what he characterizes as systemic Democratic corruption (Biden’s classified info, Hunter Biden deals, Obama-era scandals).
• Challenges Stewart's claim that Trump corruption is "the worst in our lifetime."
• Quote: "Does anyone actually think... Watergate is a greater example of corruption than the IRS under Barack Obama targeting political opposition?" (Crowder, 44:46)

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6. Epstein and the Media (46:05–49:50)

• Crowder notes Stewart only started mentioning Epstein in 2025 despite its earlier media blackout, insinuates selective attention.
• Asserts mainstream outlets ignored the story until it was safe or beneficial to use as an anti-Trump cudgel.
• Crowder acknowledges his own bias but criticizes CNN and similar outlets for refusing to.

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7. What Is Fascism? & South American History (50:59–62:04)

• Crowder begins a segment promising to bust myths about fascism historically:
  • Claims "fascism" is misapplied as a slur for any anti-leftist pushback.
  • Recasts Chile’s Pinochet and Brazil’s 1964 military government not as mere “fascists” but possibly as necessary correctives to Marxist-communist rule, citing GDP and stability improvements.
  • Stresses Pinochet’s popularity and economic success, glossing over the violence, and stresses these regimes were “mandated by the masses.”
• Quote: "Fascism has been used historically, not in the way that you’ve been told; it’s been used against communism... because with communism, socialism, you vote them in—have to shoot your way out." (Crowder, 51:50)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On pronoun debates:
  “The fact that anybody expects, let alone demands me to acknowledge or refer to this person as anything other than a deranged freak show is coercion.” (Crowder, 17:48)
• On Watergate:
  “Nixon didn’t order or know about the break-in... Watergate is not what you’ve been told.” (Crowder, 39:09)
• On fascism accusations:
  “Every time someone does something to prevent the left from completely subverting a nation or try and reverse course, the left wants you to believe that fascism, not Marxism (100 million dead), is the biggest, greatest evil threat.” (Crowder, 53:25)
• Satirical riff:
  “I don’t want communists to feel safe.” (Crowder, 54:27)

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Important Timestamps

• [04:43] Viral Nigerian TikTok on "Dutch date" and entitlement in dating
• [16:23] Trump’s joke comparing Kaitlan Collins to Dylan Mulvaney: Mulvaney’s video response
• [25:36] Panel’s harsh critique on Dylan Mulvaney and discussion on self-identity
• [32:16] Breakdown and reaction to Jon Stewart's awkward interview with Kaitlan Collins
• [37:48] Nixon and Watergate: challenging the standard narrative
• [41:27] Stewart's take on Trump corruption—Crowder counters with Biden/Obama “scandals”
• [46:05] Epstein media coverage—how legacy media handles inconvenient stories
• [50:59] The meaning of fascism and historical revisionism (lead-in to South American case studies)
• [56:03] Pinochet and Chile’s “successful” fascism through Crowder’s lens

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Tone & Language

• Tone: Provocative, mocking, satirical, sometimes intentionally crude; highly opinionated with frequent sarcasm.
• Language: Crowder and panel freely use politically incorrect language, controversial jokes, and talk openly about gender, sexuality, and historical violence for comedic effect.

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Concluding Thoughts

This episode epitomizes the Louder with Crowder style: mixing satirical humor with pointed, sometimes polemical conservative critique. Core themes are media hypocrisy, the supposed mislabeling of “fascism,” and disaffection with contemporary left-wing cultural trends. The episode’s discussion is most valuable for understanding right-wing populist reactions to current events, the ongoing discourse around media trust, and the re-interpretation of 20th-century history as deployed in political argument today.

Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

Welcome to the lineup live right here on Rumble. You don't need to change that dial. You see, I just, I just got out of the shower. It's a little bit late, so it's, look, it looks all slicked back and then it'll go full Jew fro. Even though I'm not Jewish, you know, no apac money. That has nothing to do with my hair. Today I'm going to bring it up, bring up the rundown. This is not going well. The case for fascism and what I mean by that is when fascism as the left defines it historically is not necessary. I obviously, you know, when I spent time in college, learned about fascists and how evil they were, I didn't learn about what preceded them. I didn't learn about the communists, about the socialists that preceded them. And I often, if ever, try to remember. No, no. I never once learned that many fascists rose to power with the overwhelming support of the people because they lived under the thumb of Marxism. Did you know that? So I'll go through a few historical examples. The left wants to accuse us of fascism and they will. All right. I'm okay with it. Kaitlin Collins, Harry forum lady. She was on Jon Stewart. We're going to talk about that. It's everything wrong with media and Dylan Mulvaney has made a very brittle boned comeback. What should be done about that? Comment below. On with the show.

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[Gerald]

If you're over the Miller, we've got your filler.

[Steven Crowder]

Click Rumble Premium and join now for 99 annually or $9.99 a month to get the entirely ad free experience and an ever expanding roster of content creators and free speech. Speaking of fascists and socialists, who's your favorite world leader today? Give me an answer. We really don't have fascists anymore when you think about it. I mean, I'm sure they exist somewhere in South America, but there's always a coup. It's just that's a big thing now. Coups are in. It's all about the coup. Right now. People are doing coups Captain Morgan, CEO.

[Josh]

How are you? Fantastic. Coup's about to take process.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Here place.

[Gerald]

Wow.

[Steven Crowder]

How.

[Josh]

I don't know.

[Unknown Announcer]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

You're just threatening violence.

[Josh]

Did you get the ladder with Gerald sign? Yeah. Thanks.

[Gerald]

They did.

[Steven Crowder]

It was very lackluster.

[Josh]

It's a piece of paper that they tape on there.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

It doesn't have the same ring to it, but also, by the way, Saturday, August 1 Film Alley, Weatherford, Texas. Josh Firestein is going to be there. Go support live comedy. How are you, sir?

[Guest/Co-host]

I'm good, I'm good. Do you have a favorite world leader? Is it Donald Trump?

[Steven Crowder]

I don't have one. I mean, just as far as higher office. I don't know if qualifies later.

[Gerald]

We don't need your doctors and engineers.

[Steven Crowder]

I actually had AI create an ASMR sleep voice of him just saying random words. Marley was dead to begin with. As dead as a doornail.

[Guest/Co-host]

Oh, I have favorites for like, who are funniest.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't know.

[Guest/Co-host]

There's something about, you know, you're a world leader. You got, you got flaws.

[Political Commentator]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Of course you do. That's tough. I don't know.

[Guest/Co-host]

It's a hard job. I wouldn't want it.

[Steven Crowder]

I was. The United States, obviously, it's, it's, it's United States. I'm thinking if there's anybody else.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Who would. Malay is kind of a rock star.

[Steven Crowder]

He is pretty fun.

[Guest/Co-host]

That Japanese lady is kind of fun.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

It's always fun when you get a little Japanese lady like, you know, bop into the Ramones. So I don't know. Let me tell you, a lady that I'm not a fan of. So you've obviously heard of, or you may be lamenting the red pill sphere, as people call it, or the mana sphere. And then there's the whole dating sphere where women give advice and there's the feminist advice, the tradcon wife. And then men just checking out. It's not good. It's not going well. Now, you may think that's sort of unique to Western civilization. It's not. Now we take the entitlement to the broads of Nigeria.

[Nigerian Woman]

When I thought, I've seen it all as a lady in her mid-20s already. Mid-20s, she's young, like probably a month. And he was like, okay. He wants us to hang out. I said, okay, fine, I walk. I'm going to let you know when I'll be free. So this guy was like, okay, no problem. Duh. How do I feel about a touch date? If you know what a Dutch date is by now already good. You will split the bill. Whatever the lady drinks or take, she'll pay for it. Eats, drinks or take, he will pay for it. If I want to go out and have foreign and get things for myself, obviously I wouldn't want to go with a random man that I've not met before. Like you want to take me out.

[Steven Crowder]

Pause. Maybe that's why. That's exactly why he's doing it. You know, a lunch date is a good idea. Or if you say, hey, go Dutch. That's to avoid being the random man who pays for meals. Which by the way, mid-20s. I don't know if I believe you. And him paying for you. You'll eat him out of a house and home. It'd be like sitting out in front of McDonald' watching the numbers change.

[Gerald]

She eat everything. I have no money anymore. You must feed the girl,

[Josh]

eat the crab.

[Gerald]

I want to be where the beaches are.

[Guest/Co-host]

Why are they all so deep? Where's that voice come from?

[Gerald]

Hey, don't talk about my voice. I'm mid-20s.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, sure, let's keep watching. This is the entitlement. Hey, the guy dodged a bullet. But let's see what she has to say.

[Nigerian Woman]

Sort my views. I don't understand. Can you like explain to me, like how men now are comfortable to open

[Steven Crowder]

their mouth and say don't open yours.

[Nigerian Woman]

Is that the trending thing now? That is happening. I will sleep my house, wear clothes, finish, prepare, do my hair, my lashes, everything look good, finish for you.

[Steven Crowder]

Went to so much effort. You groomed.

[Nigerian Woman]

Say you want a dodge date. What are you going to tell me that will convince me to even be with you? Why are you running the bill on the first date? Jesus. Like you guys, I'm still trying to like put back together and all. I want to carry my phone and browse about it all day and realize that it's a date whereby I tend to pay for my bill and you

[Steven Crowder]

pay for your own.

[Nigerian Woman]

I give God the glory, so that's my story time.

[Steven Crowder]

What glory? Do you think just God has heard the last part of that? He's like, what was that?

[Gerald]

Huh?

[Steven Crowder]

What? What?

[Josh]

It's like a fat person going to a buffet, overeating and then ordering a Diet Coke. You can't throw God on there to fix everything.

[Gerald]

Mid 20s. I comb my hair. I deserve all the things for free.

[Steven Crowder]

What?

[Guest/Co-host]

Gerald, you're so silly. You don't order a Diet Coke at a buffet. You get it yourself.

[Steven Crowder]

That's right.

[Josh]

That's not true. I go to Classy buffets where they serve you the drinks.

[Gerald]

Oh, I'm sure he knows Dutch.

[Guest/Co-host]

Motherfucker, you gotta get your fat ass up and go get it yourself.

[Gerald]

I can't believe a man would go Dutch.

[Steven Crowder]

So you'd prefer he go Dutch? East India Company?

[Gerald]

Is that.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, Dutch East.

[Josh]

Do we get different slaves?

[Guest/Co-host]

Why'd you say that, Gerald?

[Nigerian Woman]

I.

[Josh]

The context eludes me.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

It's.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's what's broken it up, okay? She's aggressively talking about this on TikTok. Men used to open doors and men would pay the bill for. That's a masculine trait. But that's. That's what you want.

[Gerald]

You say, what kind of man are you?

[Steven Crowder]

You're inferring there that a man is not a man unless he's doing that he gets to be masculine if you remain feminine. Get that? That means chaste. That means virtuous. That means polite. That means elegant. That means not entitled. That would mean grateful. In other words, he can embody his masculine. If you are feminine, the problem is you don't want to be feminine in any other facets, but you want the femininity. You want the perks when it comes to dating, what would he say that

[Gerald]

could ever convince me to marry him?

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, how about this genuine hypothetical. And he would probably.

[Gerald]

He would probably also talk like this. Well, let me break it down for you. There were many beaches out there who were just using random men for meals. So I wanted to make sure there was something real. So the woman who I bring in my life, who I will provide for

[Steven Crowder]

for the rest of my life, pay

[Gerald]

for all the meals, give the whole house, my whole bank account is the woman who had real intentions. And a good way is to make sure that I don't pay for everything because I've been ripped off many times.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, what if he said that? I'm willing to bet it wouldn't matter.

[Josh]

I wonder if.

[Gerald]

Eat. Eat.

[Steven Crowder]

Just what part of that is feminine?

[Gerald]

Treat me like a lady.

[Josh]

Just got one of those flip top heads, basically, with that mouth. But he. Maybe that was his. Maybe that was him. Flip.

[Gerald]

Pretty woman eating down the street. Sorry, go ahead. Pretty woman, she like to eat. Don't let her into the golden buffet. She will never go away. She has chocolate fountain on her face.

[Steven Crowder]

All right, go ahead.

[Josh]

More cheese.

[Gerald]

These nachos need more cheese. I'm talking about my cheese. Talking about my cheese. Matches.

[Guest/Co-host]

Oh, that's where I know we're from.

[Gerald]

What?

[Kaitlan Collins]

Ow.

[Unknown Announcer]

Bo.

[Josh]

Bo.

[Steven Crowder]

She did that part of the song. Gerald's been trying to get A point in for a while.

[Guest/Co-host]

I know. That's why I've been doing this.

[Josh]

No idea what the point is anym.

[Gerald]

Why don't you treat me like a woman?

[Steven Crowder]

Does that help you?

[Josh]

No, that doesn't help me at all. But maybe this guy was flicking the jab and basically just saying this, but would end up paying if they pass the test of saying, yeah, I'm interested in you. I'm not interested in just a free meal. You're right. Too many women have used this as, guys are just gonna pay for my drinks, they're gonna pay for my dinner, they're gonna pay for whatever I asked for. And there's no exchange. I'm not talking about sex. I'm talking about real intentions of actually getting to know somebody. And now it's kind of biting them in the butt a little bit.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Josh]

Like a lot of other things socially between men and women right now.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, it's not. There is no phenomenon, just so you know, of men using women on dating apps for free lunches. For free. For free dinners. That's the thing. And that's the bit right there, isn't it?

[Guest/Co-host]

Because that's. She said it.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest/Co-host]

It was one thing to say, hey, I expect a man to pay for my. My food. If we're going to go out, I expect a man to pay for my food. That's one thing. That's the kind of lady I would have been looking for. That's the kind of relationship I want. But when she says I could go out with any.

[Josh]

I can go out by myself and do my own thing. Where would I go with a random man and pay for my own thing?

[Guest/Co-host]

Well, then you don't really want to meet that man at all.

[Gerald]

Right?

[Guest/Co-host]

You weren't interested in meeting a man and dating in the first place.

[Gerald]

A girl's gotta eat. Yeah, I want some more meals.

[Josh]

Hold on. You made a really.

[Gerald]

Oh, me so hung. Oh, oh, miso hung.

[Josh]

The only thing better is if MC Baba showed up on the other side of the table.

[Gerald]

Oh, yeah, exactly.

[Josh]

That's the date. It solves all of our. Hold on. You made a really good point. Men shouldn't do this, but this is what happens in the real world.

[Steven Crowder]

What do men shouldn't mention for not date?

[Josh]

Not the meal.

[Steven Crowder]

Sex.

[Josh]

What do a lot of women do? First date.

[Gerald]

Hey, tickle the bones. No

[Josh]

question. They say, no, I'm not going to have sex. Or they refuse to do anything physical at all. Okay, so men want to use women for that. Women want to use men for the meal.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Josh]

It's okay for both to say no.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Guest/Co-host]

But when you say it like that,

[Josh]

equal footing and say, hey, we're not gonna use each other for anything. We're gonna get to know each other.

[Guest/Co-host]

If you say it like that, there's definitely one that's better. It's definitely. I think it's better to use someone for food than it is to use someone for sex.

[Josh]

Yes, I agree 100%. I'm just saying, what do men use women for on dates like this? If they're gonna abuse the process, they just want to sleep with a girl or have some kind of exciting physical night and go, right, sure, women just want the free meal.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. But the problem is women have lost all their leverage because they've convinced themselves that they also want free sex.

[Josh]

That's true. Somebody like, like Emily Radicass a little bit with that.

[Gerald]

So you don't tell me what to do. I'm going to show you my dates.

[Guest/Co-host]

Here's the question. How do we get women to start paying for the dates and having sex with the men?

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, that's a good idea.

[Guest/Co-host]

How do we get that?

[Steven Crowder]

It's called credit card fraud.

[Guest/Co-host]

Oh, okay.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. But seriously, look, look. And guys, comment. Have you. Have you had this? Have you had women use you for meals? I can imagine that's. I've heard it's quite common in dating today. And if we need an off ramp on this because women, you're just going to die alone. Men are checking out for exactly this reason. How about this? How about some understanding? How about just starting with, hey, maybe this guy isn't disrespecting you. Maybe this guy has been burned and he's trying to set some healthy boundaries and he probably has no problem paying for his girlfriend. He doesn't want to pay for every single person who he swipes left, swipes right on, or happens to do so with him. Right. He's screening. Isn't that okay? And should you maybe look at other facets if you're hoping to find the man that you could possibly marry, would there be an explanation that would suffice? Because it's a real problem that men are running into. And then what if he, on the flip side, said, yeah, I'll pay for the meal. These are my expectations and laid out very traditional gender norms, because that is the framework of holding the door of chivalry, of paying for the meal. People they used to refer to ladies, by the way, delineate between women, girls, and ladies. She's a lady. That meant a lady who was distinguished, who was elegant, who was desirable. There were things called finishing schools to learn how to become a lady. So if he expects you to be a lady, can you meet those expectations? If you expect him to meet yours. Speaking of ladies.

[Josh]

Sort of.

[Steven Crowder]

No.

[Guest/Co-host]

Should I just admonish him?

[Josh]

Yeah, I admonished, even not find out why.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I was about to say, speaking of ladies, which is completely irrelevant to this next topic because he is not one.

[Gerald]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. He's not a lady.

[Steven Crowder]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Gerald]

He's not a lady.

[Guest/Co-host]

I'm sorry. I'm still thinking about finishing school.

[Josh]

Yes, you are, because you're a child, Josh.

[Guest/Co-host]

I was like, they teach him how

[Steven Crowder]

to do that in a school.

[Guest/Co-host]

You can learn that online. Best school ever. I know how to do that. I can't do that in front of people. This should be an 18 and up kind of event. Sorry, Steven.

[Steven Crowder]

Your show. You guys feel good about that?

[Journalist/Interviewer]

I do, actually.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm not sorry at all.

[Guest/Co-host]

I was lying.

[Josh]

Don't look at me.

[Steven Crowder]

He's the one, you guys.

[Unknown Announcer]

And you know what?

[Steven Crowder]

You're doing it while they're lowering Lindsey Graham.

[Guest/Co-host]

Hey, come on.

[Steven Crowder]

The man's an American something hero.

[Josh]

He's laying in states. He's fine. This is.

[Kaitlan Collins]

You're gonna.

[Guest/Co-host]

You're gonna make me say something in poor taste even, and I don't like it.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, then stop.

[Josh]

I don't know. I kind of want to hear it.

[Kaitlan Collins]

All right.

[Steven Crowder]

By the way, it's a live show, weekdays 11am so you can tune every weekday. And if you're a Rumble Premium member, you get to watch 100% more show. It goes off the rails pretty much every day. Rumble Premium mug club. So you remember that. You remember that guy, Dylan Mulvaney? Well, President Trump and actually a pretty brilliant joke invokes the name of Dylan Mulvaney in comparing Caitlin Collins to Dylan Mulvaney. Which is great, because Kaitlan Collins can't complain about being compared to a beautiful and brave trans freak show. Here.

[Kaitlan Collins]

For those who missed it, you're at CNN Fake News. You should be a happy person. So smile, Caitlin. Just smile. But we attack. And I thought Caitlin had really made it big with a major new sponsorship. But then I informed her that it wasn't her on the Bud Light can. It was Dylan Mulvaney. And Dylan Mulvaney cost Bud Light $35 billion in market cap. That was the worst commercial ever made, by the way. For those few people that want to hear that, most people don't care. But I Would. I wouldn't want to hire Dylan anytime soon.

[Gerald]

Oh, no.

[Steven Crowder]

Trump said Dill Mulvaney three times, and Mulvaney sl his way back into our lives. Ah, just when you thought it was safe to go back in the brothel.

[Guest/Co-host]

That's gotta be a stinger.

[Josh]

Yes, please.

[Steven Crowder]

My stuff nightmares are made of.

[Josh]

We'll be talking about him more so now.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, the lady Dylan, he is that. No, I love my ladies named Dylan. The lady Dylan Mulvaney, of course, responded, even though Dylan the Lady has been trying to keep a low profile.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

The President of the United States said my name in his speech four times on Friday.

[Steven Crowder]

Pause. Firstly, this is what I mean when we got into our little. Our little spat over the Odyssey. When I say violent coercion. The fact that anybody expects, let alone demands me to basically acknowledge or refer to this person as anything other than a deranged freak show is coercion. That's a very, very unhealthy, freaky little man. Keep playing.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I would like to congratulate CNN's Kaitlan Collins on her award and tell her that I'm incredibly honored to be compared to her in any way.

[Gerald]

Of course you are.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

She's a woman.

[Josh]

Low, barely.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And mind you, I've been kind of flying under the radar, keeping up a pretty low profile. Just like doing my little musical, singing, dancing.

[Guest/Co-host]

Oh, yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes. I've been keeping a low profile performing on stage in musicals as a tranny.

[Kaitlan Collins]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

That is basically the Witness Protection Program,

[Guest/Co-host]

I think by low profiles, I said tucking. Never mind the joke. Didn't work because I don't know gender.

[Steven Crowder]

None of us do anymore. Well, to be fair, it's. It's off.

[Guest/Co-host]

I'm so confused, because he's so hot.

[Steven Crowder]

It's off Broadway. It's very. It's off off Broadway. It's in the sewer. Dylan Mulvaney performs in the sewer. Co star Splinter. Keep playing. It's called Bent.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

On this topic of conversation all these years later, and it seems to me that I might be like, the one that got away for these men. Like, I am permanently burned into their retinas. I am microchipped into their minds. And when I first heard that the president put me on his diss track, I was like, well, that's not good.

[Josh]

Well, that's not good.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I shouldn't want to be professionally supported by people that doesn't personally support me or so many others in this country.

[Gerald]

Correct.

[Steven Crowder]

We don't.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

In fact, maybe being publicly mocked and criticized by this administration is actually, like, the greatest compliment of all. Because it puts me in the company of some of, like, the most brilliant empathetic people in our world today.

[Mud Club Announcer]

Cope.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But I do still wonder, like, why is it so important to them that I don't find success? Like, what is it that I have that they don't?

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

I just don't like it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my God. Freedom. I am free in a way that they will never have the privilege to experience. And they want to use their power to take away my freedom.

[Steven Crowder]

Seems that we have both a different current and historical definition of freedom. Jigs with d.

[Josh]

It's a classic.

[Guest/Co-host]

What? Oh, it's great.

[Gerald]

Would you trade. Would you trade all the snatch alone in your bed many years from now?

[Kaitlan Collins]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

We don't want a chick with a duck.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Josh]

No, don't.

[Steven Crowder]

It's not worth it. I'm not fighting for chicks with dicks.

[Josh]

I'd like to be English.

[Steven Crowder]

I think I want a son come out of a dick.

[Guest/Co-host]

Possible. It worked out great.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest/Co-host]

Dylan talking about freedom. Dylan Mulvaney has more freedom than us, but will preach to us about how the rights are being taken away. They're in jeopardy of losing all their freedoms and bragging, I got more freedom. My mic nose is crooked. What about you?

[Steven Crowder]

She sounds like Andy Dick. Why am I talking? When I get serious, I get like this.

[Guest/Co-host]

Whoa.

[Steven Crowder]

All right, sir.

[Guest/Co-host]

Chill, bro.

[Steven Crowder]

Said Dylan Mulvaney. All right, let's continue with Dylan Mulvaney. Something something. Newly freed slave.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

My freedom is fully dependent on the moment that I acknowledged my real authentic self in every day since. And sharing that with the world, it's just icing on the cake. But they don't want me to be able to share that because it would mean young people realizing that if someone like me can be themselves and find success and freedom, then they can find success and freedom for themselves too. Number one, support trans and non binary people. This is the time I am sounding the alarm. We need you to stand up for us. Vote for us, donate to our causes, hire us.

[Guest/Co-host]

What are you gonna do for me?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But most importantly, love us. That is what we need more than anything right now.

[Guest/Co-host]

You don't love me?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Proudly. Number two, if a young person is seeking acceptance, we are going to love them.

[Guest/Co-host]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And if you are a young person watching this, I need you to hold on to every piece of yourself tight.

[Steven Crowder]

Even everyness.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Because especially the parts that they are trying to make you feel guilty about.

[Guest/Co-host]

But I want to cut it off.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Number three, when they try to judge you for your support of us, take that as the greatest compliment. Ladies, when they tell you that you look like a trans woman, wear it like a medal.

[Steven Crowder]

They won't. I guarantee you they won't.

[Josh]

What, like the man in the iron mask kind of feel?

[Guest/Co-host]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Take him away. What, metal?

[Guest/Co-host]

Copper? Oh, yeah, Let me try that real quick. Let me call my wife and tell her she looks like a trans person.

[Steven Crowder]

Let me see if I am married tomorrow. If I were a trans person and I was trying to be taken seriously, I would avoid any possibility of puns or plays on or hold onto every piece of yourself. Like, what did you think was gonna happen? Poor choice of words. Was that the last clip? Oh, no, there's one more.

[Josh]

Oh, good. Freaky clip. More.

[Steven Crowder]

Hold on to your every piece.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Lastly, to the President, thank you for reminding me that I am more powerful than I even knew. And to quote my favorite recording artist, she a diamond. I am America.

[Steven Crowder]

Love ya, baby.

[Gerald]

I am America.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, no.

[Gerald]

Oh no.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is a perfect example. He's getting a pass because of the training. If a white guy did that in the vicinity of any black people, get his ass kicked.

[Guest/Co-host]

Yeah, well, that's, that's trans. Elaine, be. Oh, I thought you were gonna keep going.

[Steven Crowder]

She takes it as success. He takes it as a son of a crap. Admonish me. Admonish me. Yeah, he takes it as success. To crater the sound of Bud Light.

[Josh]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Of Anheuser Busch. This is. You know what is success? It's just attention. That's it. Attention, attention, attention, attention. We want to act. The term narcissist is thrown around so often, it's lost all meeting.

[Gerald]

Right.

[Steven Crowder]

Every single girl, all of their ex boyfriends are narcissists. Right? That's why it didn't work. Yet we don't acknowledge the actual, probably clinical narcissist right in front of our face. Everything about Dylan Mulvaney revolves around looks. Once I figured out once. The day I accepted my authentic self and strapped down my tits and had to get myself injected with cancer genic hormones and had to completely redo my wardrobe and I have to cover myself with makeup every day to make myself look like something that I'm not. Once I became entirely self absorbed with the superficial outwardly, my, my life started having meaning. That's what they want you to believe. That's what they want you to believe.

[Josh]

And don't listen to her or her excuse. Why do you care so much about me? Because you're out there pushing this narrative and I want no one to take you Seriously. And follow you down the path that you're going down. I care. I wish that you would turn around. But if you're going to advocate others, we are going to point and mock the freak show that you are every single day.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, well, also, by the way, keeping a low profile. Mulvaney, I guess, appeared in a. It was a musical where King Henry's wives were a pop group.

[Josh]

Really?

[Steven Crowder]

And Mulvaney played Anne Boleyn. Really?

[Josh]

Okay.

[Steven Crowder]

Willing to bet there wasn't great attendance for that one.

[Guest/Co-host]

It was off Broadway.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, off off off Broadway.

[Guest/Co-host]

Which one was Anne Boleyn? Was she. She was the one that. She had a boy or. She didn't have a boy.

[Gerald]

I don't know.

[Guest/Co-host]

But she got locked away, right?

[Steven Crowder]

In the movie she had no eyebrows.

[Guest/Co-host]

Ah, I remember that well, in the place you had no vagina.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, I'll tell you,

[Kaitlan Collins]

that'd be great

[Steven Crowder]

if they just go behind a honeymoon sheet and just hear. Should we kill him, your majesty?

[Gerald]

No, lock her away.

[Guest/Co-host]

I don't want anyone to know.

[Steven Crowder]

The witness waiting and say.

[Kaitlan Collins]

Right.

[Steven Crowder]

Very well. Get in the marriage bed and consummate. Don't mind me. I look this way. How is the consummation?

[Guest/Co-host]

Like.

[Gerald]

It's fine. Leave it closed.

[Steven Crowder]

It's fine.

[Guest/Co-host]

I'm gonna kill this one too.

[Steven Crowder]

I need a moment. Oh, this is great. Oh, oh, oh. Okay, I'm all done consummating.

[Gerald]

So good. Consummation.

[Steven Crowder]

I think.

[Josh]

I think King Henry's gay.

[Guest/Co-host]

I don't think he had sex with that lady.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, hey. You watch your mouth. Talking about your king that way. That's a good way to get consummated by your king. Bring me my harem. That's right. I will consummate you straight to the iron Mask, just. By the way, Dylan Mulvaney never. This is where, like, hey, the old way was sometimes better. Dylan never would have turned out this way if his mom just took some. Took some Maxwell House and their advice.

[Unknown Announcer]

Her idea of child raising was called permissive everything. Mine wasn't. Woman, I said, you've experimented with everything from my son to my coffee. I want instant Maxwell House coffee, good to the last drop. Maxwell House the instant that tastes like coffee. Be a good little Maxwell Housewife and don't experiment with my son or my coffee. And I love you a lot. Maxwell House coffee, instant and ground.

[Steven Crowder]

That's real.

[Josh]

That's real.

[Steven Crowder]

And you know what?

[Josh]

Based

[Steven Crowder]

on don't experiment with my coffee or my son.

[Guest/Co-host]

All I want you to experiment with is my prostate.

[Steven Crowder]

That's Right. Save money on nursing fees.

[Gerald]

Yes.

[Josh]

Experimentation belongs in the bedroom, sweetie,

[Steven Crowder]

but it's not wrong. The truth is, if you look at the moms who support their kids. If you look at parents who support their kids, Transitions overwhelmingly. Fathers, like. Nope. Mothers.

[Nigerian Woman]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Right. They buy into it far more than men used to be. Safeguards against this kind of feminizing silliness. That's just. That's just reality. A lot of women often want their sons to be their daughters sometimes. And, yeah, with girls, they'll end up being a tomboy. With young, young boys, if they don't have a father and they have a mother who feminizes him, you end up with a very, very destructive thread that's being pulled out in society. So. By the way, thank you for the raid, Dan. We appreciate it. And I know I forgot it. You know, Dylan Mulvaney. Here's the real sad part is Dylan Mulvaney, I guarantee you, is going to fail as a stripper. That's a sad thing, because, you know, no one. I mean, first off, you shouldn't. Sex work is not real work.

[Josh]

No.

[Steven Crowder]

Which is why we don't do super chats. We don't let you give us. We actually do reverse super chats. We disappoint your father. So the folks at Rumble Wallets want to give back, and they are gifting 50 free rumble premium subscriptions in the chat. Rumble Wallet, secure your finances and get $5 right now. By the way, in US stablecoin, you. You can click the link in the description, enter the code. Crowder 5:50 free subscriptions. Rumble Wallet. If you got one, tag me on extra Instagram and go and call your dad and tell him that this was just, you know, a phase, like torn Levi's.

[Josh]

Five free dollars. By the way, they're carrying Lindsey Graham's casket down the stairs. Every time I see something like this, I know that the world will never remember this moment unless somebody trips and falls and that's. It's like the national anthem. Nobody's really going to remember it unless it's, like, the best one ever done. Unless you make a mistake and, like, forget the words or sing it incorrectly.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

Now.

[Steven Crowder]

Now I'm gonna say something, and I run the risk of offending a lot of people here, but it's a genuine question. Do you think the one military man in the white outfit just wasn't part of the huddle beforehand crap? Yeah, I know. But he does stick out in comparison to everyone else. Yeah, it's fine.

[Josh]

He's supposed to.

[Steven Crowder]

All right, Special Yeah, it's.

[Guest/Co-host]

Cause he's the one Navy man.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Guest/Co-host]

I don't know why they had all these different service. Is it like a custom to have one from every branch carrying the casket or. Don't know.

[Josh]

I'm not sure what.

[Steven Crowder]

The.

[Guest/Co-host]

Graham got a lot of use out of the military, I suppose.

[Steven Crowder]

I guess I thought that maybe they also. I thought they had other dress that was. That wasn't always white.

[Guest/Co-host]

I think they do, but they wear white for ceremonies like that.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Steven Crowder]

All right.

[Josh]

Come down here.

[Guest/Co-host]

Maybe I'm wrong.

[Josh]

Things do change form.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Guest/Co-host]

Uniforms change. I was in the army with greens, then it was blues, and I got out and now it's like a tan. It's really cool.

[Steven Crowder]

Things change for some reason. But he's also not wearing like a. He's not wearing a jacket.

[Guest/Co-host]

That is a jacket. The white. Yeah, it's a white jacket.

[Steven Crowder]

It didn't look like a jacket.

[Guest/Co-host]

The white uniform.

[Josh]

It's a coat. Does it.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay. It looked.

[Gerald]

It looked like.

[Steven Crowder]

Anyway, I just, I. You know, that guy probably feels a little.

[Guest/Co-host]

Oh, here we go.

[Josh]

Here's a good view of it. It's just said he doesn't feel bad. This is what he wears. Okay.

[Guest/Co-host]

Oh, no, he looks like he's wearing that. The old seaman outfit.

[Steven Crowder]

That's what I was gonna say. Right?

[Guest/Co-host]

Yeah. On the boat kind of thing.

[Steven Crowder]

Like, he's in the same.

[Guest/Co-host]

Yeah, like, it looks like he forgot his dress uniform. You're right. It looks like he forgot his dress uniform. He's like, oh, shoot, I have my dailies.

[Josh]

No, it's not what it looks like.

[Guest/Co-host]

This guy's just checking in on the.

[Gerald]

On Lindsay. Hey, what you guys got in there? You got a mini fridge? Yeah. Oh, sparkling water and what have you.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

Jeez.

[Guest/Co-host]

Got an energy drink.

[Gerald]

Just.

[Steven Crowder]

It's sugar free.

[Gerald]

No, I'll just. I'll stop a quick trip on the way. Okay.

[Josh]

Just close the. Okay.

[Gerald]

What you guys doing? What are you doing after?

[Steven Crowder]

I haven't eaten yet. All right,

[Guest/Co-host]

get it off the screen, please.

[Steven Crowder]

Why have you on the screen for so long?

[Josh]

I made a simple point about people falling down the stairs carrying a casket, and that's what.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, all right.

[Guest/Co-host]

I don't want to talk about it. Gerald keeps bringing it up.

[Josh]

Okay.

[Steven Crowder]

Caitlyn Collins. Kaitlin Collins was on the Daily show last night. And Jon Stewart. Okay. Jon Stewart has become far more of an activist than he even used to be. He's one of the best to ever do it. I will say that he is decreasingly funny. This is case in point, it's time for media malpractice. Now I'll tell you why this interview doesn't work. It doesn't work because Jon Stewart, his job is to be funny, and he is doing some bits right, and he's trying to kind of keep it light. Unfortunately, Caitlin Collins is still trying to keep the facade alive that she's an objective journalist, so she just stonewalls him. And it gets increasingly uncomfortable as Stewart tries to get her to crap on Trump because, you know, behind closed doors, she does.

[Political Commentator]

There are times when I watch him, and I think to myself, this can't be real. Like, this can't be America in the room that night, that's how he felt during COVID Did it feel surreal? Was he bombing as hard as it appeared on the tv? You said to him, this guy admitted to his crimes. Trump said to you, you don't know much about crypto. You know nothing about nothing. You're fake news news.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

But he didn't answer the question.

[Guest/Co-host]

No.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

And then he said he didn't really know who the person was.

[Political Commentator]

You are very straightforward with him. You. You don't play coy. You don't frame it.

[Gerald]

No, I'm a straight shooter.

[Josh]

And he just don't frame it in some. Gotcha.

[Political Commentator]

You're a terrible person. You're a stupid person. You don't smile when that's done. Does someone. Is there an office of, like, smoothing things out that comes to your office and says, like, in a bar when your friend gets in a fight, like, hey, man, he's drunk. Like, I'm so sorry.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

It's because I want anyone to be able to listen to what I'm asking, whether that's at a briefing or during a moment with the president and think, you know, I want to know the answer to that, too.

[Political Commentator]

The answer is very clearly, you should smile more.

[Gerald]

It's hard to smile when you have no upper lip.

[Guest/Co-host]

I have no upper lip. Chill out.

[Gerald]

Yeah, but you don't have very true forearms.

[Political Commentator]

This is just a chance for you to kind of play his game. He's so concerned about appearance. He's so play in that arena. All right, so you're. You're Donald Trump. Call on me. Caitlyn.

[Guest/Co-host]

She's not like that.

[Josh]

She's like, I'm k.

[Political Commentator]

You look pretty today. The big, beautiful bill took a million children off of food assistance.

[Gerald]

Even I know that.

[Political Commentator]

Why are your hands so up?

[Guest/Co-host]

That look was. The producers didn't tell me this was gonna happen.

[Political Commentator]

I didn't say it would work.

[Gerald]

Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about because I'm pretty much an objective journalist.

[Steven Crowder]

All right now it just, it just, it's uncomfortable because she's stonewalling. Remember on Stephen Colbert where, yeah, I know you're straight. You know you're a straight shooter. It's completely objective cnn. And then the audience laughs.

[Gerald]

Like, are they supposed to be laughing like that?

[Steven Crowder]

No one, no one actually takes CNN seriously. It's like she didn't get the memo and he didn't get the memo. And then he just rattles. And I get it, he's a comedian, so I have more grace, but he just rattles off. I mean, straw man after straw man where he tries to get into corruption. So here's one right here where he tries to set the stage by comparing President Trump to Watergate. And you know, I've long maintained that Watergate isn't Watergate.

[Political Commentator]

J.D. vance said something really interesting recently. He was talking about Watergate and he said about Watergate probably would be. Now this is sort of the, the seminal public corruption, political corruption case of our lifetimes. I was raised on the Watergate here hearings. He said it would probably be a 12 hour story now. But I think the point he was making is they've created such great defenses around public and political corruption that there's no longer. That great reporting no longer leads to accountability through the other institutions that are there to pick that up.

[Steven Crowder]

No, the point that he was making was actually that the media no longer has media Hollywood education no longer has an ideological monopoly as to be able to bully anyone and misrepresent. Nixon was railroaded, just to be clear. And by the way, there's a three in three in this. You can go download those wherever podcast exists. Three key facts in three minutes or less. With all the references Watergate, a lot of people don't realize Watergate wasn't Watergate. So key fact one, no one was ever charged with ordering the burglary. To be clear, Nixon resigned to avoid being impeached, but he never actually admitted guilt. There's been new information since then. And key fact here, Nixon didn't order know about the break in. He was never actually accused of ordering or knowing about the break in. And there is audio that clearly shows us he was surprised about the break in.

[Unknown Announcer]

Who is the asshole that did this?

[Guest/Co-host]

Is.

[Unknown Announcer]

Is it Liddy? Is that the phone?

[Steven Crowder]

He must be a little nuts, buddy.

[Gerald]

Larry did this.

[Steven Crowder]

The guy puts his hand over a candle. Bad prick.

[Josh]

He rat.

[Steven Crowder]

So really, just so you know, Watergate and We'll get to. There have been some updates. This came from the New York Times recently unearthed tapes or transcripts. It was people broke in to try and affect an election to help Nixon win who weren't actually associated with him in these actions. And it didn't affect the election anyway. And then Nixon said, my gosh, people are gonna think I had something to do with this. So he tried to keep it quiet. That's the corruption and that's turned into Nixon wiretapped. You have a lot of people who believe that, but you also have people who believe that Kyle Rittenhouse went out and shot black people as opposed to registered pedophiles. Here's another clip of Nixon Stewart, or Stewart opining on Nixon.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

He also said the deep state took down Richard Nixon, which I think Richard Nixon took down Richard Nixon. But to your point, it wasn't just.

[Steven Crowder]

It absolutely was a deep state. According to the New York Times, it

[Journalist/Interviewer]

wasn't just the reporting that led to Nixon's resignation. It was Republicans in the Senate who made clear that he had crossed a line with them. After the reporting, after the investigation into his actions was, was proceeding and a

[Political Commentator]

legal system that held people accountable for break ins and obstruction and cover ups and even Spiro Agnew, people forget Spiro Agnew, who was the vice president at the time, resigned months before Watergate took down Nixon on a bribery scandal.

[Steven Crowder]

And here's the thing, they just say,

[Gerald]

oh, it wasn't the deep state, it was Nixon who took down Nixon.

[Steven Crowder]

See, even Republicans in the Senate. Yeah, at that point he had been damaged because of the leftist media and the hit job. Also, by the way, a lot of Republicans who were on board with the military industrial complex. Right? The same, the same industrial complex you love to malign and rightfully so. There was a military spying scandal against. This should have been the biggest story from February 20th this year. New York Times. It was well known, it's been documented that there were those who were very pro military, who were very pro war, those in the Pentagon who absolutely targeted Nixon and were spying on him. Nixon knew it, but he chose to protect wartime secrets and the military's reputation instead. Because he said, this will blow back on the troops on the ground and Americans will forever lose trust in their institution and their government if they knew about, quote, unquote, the deep state. Effectively he was the first target that they successfully eliminated. And he said, you know what? I don't want Americans to become a nation of cynics. And so for the good of the country, he Resigned and he kept quiet. This is all documented. You can go check the link right in the description. New York Times. It's something that people, you know why people don't talk. Well, because the story's past. There's nothing to gain from it. Doesn't mean that Nixon was a flawless president at all. I'm just saying that Watergate is not what you've been told. Here you go. Stewart sort of parlays that from Nixon. Awful, awful corruption, misrepresenting it to. We're now witnessing the worst corruption of our lifetime. And of course, it's selective bias.

[Political Commentator]

It makes me cynical to watch the stories that you guys are uncovering about a Qatari jet that's, you know, millions and millions of dollars by a foreign government that's not safe enough for the president to fly on it. And also the guy who is the envoy to that region is getting money from that area while also trying to negotiate peace deals from within those. The levels of corruption within his family and that administration are exponentially beyond anything that I think we have ever experienced in our lifetime. And I keep waiting for the other institutions to wake up and they feel like they're gone. Like there is no political. There would never be an impeachment on this.

[Steven Crowder]

And the leaders, uncorrupted institutions like the FBI who falsely claim that Hunter Biden

[Political Commentator]

laptop story was disinformation, redefining what corruption means to allow more of it.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I think John Stewart, and this is the problem, right? It's one thing to just focus on comedy. Right there. He's making a point. And his point is verifiably wrong. Now, what did we say when we were live on air when the Qatari jet thing broke? We said, that's not good.

[Josh]

We don't like that. I don't like the crypto stuff, but true social, it's kind of like a scam. The true social stuff, it's valued at like 1 billion. It only has like $37 million in revenue. There's a ton there to be like, yeah, that's not good.

[Gerald]

Right?

[Political Commentator]

At all.

[Steven Crowder]

But we also need to wait. The worst corruption of our lifetime, I guess. And if you're going to do it, just acknowledge all of it. For example, the new audio today from Joe Biden admitting to mishandling by definition classified material. New audio today.

[Unknown Announcer]

This was a big meeting. The CIA and everyone on. It was.

[Steven Crowder]

Was that a July meeting?

[Guest/Co-host]

Sharpest attack?

[Unknown Announcer]

Looks like it.

[Josh]

That's 2,017 guys changed pens.

[Steven Crowder]

Insane.

[Unknown Announcer]

So it's got to be after the 17th of June and then it's a long meeting where DOD brief at DOD POTUS Air Force 2 2:30pm it was a big meeting down on the situation

[Gerald]

know it would have been

[Unknown Announcer]

some of this may be classified so be careful with okay I'm not sure I did

[Steven Crowder]

not mark no one saw any signs of his decline until well into his

[Unknown Announcer]

term by the found all the classified stuff downstairs I wrote the President A handwritten 40 page memorandum which I guarantee

[Josh]

you he didn't read didn't write 40 pages.

[Gerald]

Come on hand wrote 40 pages. I said you read this Barack.

[Steven Crowder]

You read it.

[Gerald]

Sucker.

[Guest/Co-host]

He can't sign his name Auto pen so articulate.

[Steven Crowder]

I know you got that. Not to mention the many many, many millions of dollars that Joe Biden made only once he had achieved higher office. This is the worst corruption of our lifetime. Millions in profit for his son the known crackhead from charisma China. You want to talk about Barack Obama spying on Trump's campaign Confirmed Fast and the Furious scandal. The IRS scandal targeting political opposition Benghazi. Want to go hey I want to go to Al Gore worth a few thousand dollars now worth close to half a billion post vice presidency. The list goes on and on. Donald Trump lost by the Most conservative accounts $600 million his first Remember when the left was celebrating he was worth 3 billion less so like he lost a lot. It's a rounding error for a billionaire. It's a different it's a different scale. That doesn't mean that these a jet is a good thing to accept. But to say this is the worst corruption. Well he would have to put blinders on the same way he would have to say that Watergate was more corrupt. Does anyone actually think that Watergate just look at the spirit of it. Watergate is a greater example of corruption than the IRS under Barack Obama targeting political opposition.

[Guest/Co-host]

Right.

[Steven Crowder]

Barack Obama knowingly his they knowingly spied on Trump's campaign. That's way worse. Think about that like it's right there. Direct apples to apples. Which is worse? The Obama administration, his people working in his government, spying on Trump's campaign, lying about it and we find out or Nixon having nothing to do with it finding out and saying oh my gosh, people are people are going to actually they're going to try and pin this on me. Can you just keep it quiet the worst corruption Watergate and Trump truth social that's the issue. By the way what I think we're seeing and Kal she is reflecting this the betting odds that strong chance Jon Stewart may Run for the Democratic nominee for president. There's a 17% chance. It just went up.

[Guest/Co-host]

Oh, interesting.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. 17% chance. I don't know.

[Guest/Co-host]

Fun debates.

[Steven Crowder]

It would be fun.

[Josh]

Walls has got a 12% chance that,

[Guest/Co-host]

well, he needs a new job. But that's hilarious.

[Josh]

How the hell did Barack Obama get back on the list? I think we have issues with this. Right.

[Guest/Co-host]

Kamala Harris nowhere to be found.

[Josh]

Yeah, she's still trying to run.

[Steven Crowder]

Now let's look again. Let's continue on this path of just the selective bias. Here's Stewart now using Epstein as an example of corruption. Also, keep in mind that Jon Stewart did not mention Epstein at all. At all.

[Guest/Co-host]

At all.

[Steven Crowder]

We've looked through all the records. Unless I'm wrong, and if he did, it's very much buried there. Never mentioned Epstein until July of 2025. But now it really is his pet

[Political Commentator]

cause play the reporting aspect of it or is there a sense of is anyone going to follow up on this Epstein stuff? Is a great example.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

Well, I think for reporters, I mean,

[Steven Crowder]

here's a great example for you to feign outrage.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

Now jobs, which is fair reporting, tough reporting and good questions. And fair questions. I think in terms of the Epstein example, that is something that there was a wealth of really good reporting on, including from those reporters from the Wall Street Journal who were on stage on Friday night.

[Political Commentator]

Right.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

But also, I mean, there was a long shot bid in Congress to release the files when the Justice Department did not do so and it became not a long shot bid and it actually happened. And so there have been moments where that does happen.

[Political Commentator]

But now they've withheld 3 million of those documents. The woman that was in prison got an upgrade. Nobody else has gone to jail. People always ask me, you know, what have been some of the frustrations. And I always say that, that it's cathartic but impotent. And I can accept that from what I do because it's satire.

[Gerald]

Now do me, John.

[Political Commentator]

I feel like what you guys do deserves better than that. And I wonder if that ever crosses your or it's. You've just got to focus.

[Gerald]

My unibrow.

[Journalist/Interviewer]

I think your job as a reporter is to report and to inform the American public to ask tough questions.

[Political Commentator]

Why are you so mature?

[Steven Crowder]

Why are you like, really like, oh,

[Gerald]

believe me, I can be a freak.

[Josh]

Listen, she's not Jake Tapper, but she will go and hide behind this. I've asked some difficult questions of Trump. Maybe they weren't fair, but I never pressed anybody in the Biden administration.

[Steven Crowder]

There's no record of them ever asking Biden about Epstein. None whatsoever. Remember, you can go back and watch. We live stream. We recreated the cell down to the millimeter. I absolutely don't think that Epstein killed the himself the way that we were told. I also think it's important to separate the myth from the lore because now it's just become a cottage industry. But we were on Epstein for a very, very long time. The media just. It was a blackout. It was a blackout from legacy media, to be clear. So let's just apply it equally. And here's the thing I have told you and I try to be very honest. That's why I provide all of the references every single day. Go check them out. Link in the description. I am not unbiased. I am not an objective journalist. Now, if I bring you something exclusive where I say, okay, our journalists have done this, yes, it's accurate, but you need to know I have a point of view. I think I've been pretty straightforward about it. CNN is not. If you go an entire without asking one administration about Epstein and then you become a dog on a bone with it with Donald Trump as an example of corruption, well, that shows that you are not an objective journalist. If you whitewash cover up the very clear cognitive decline of a sitting president while making those attacks against someone else who's clearly more than sharp enough to do the job. If you, based on historical President Donald Trump, you are not an objective journalist. We're just asking that you be honest about what is right now dishonest and dishonesty. It's dishonesty. Now, if you start being honest about your perspective, you start being honest about your bias. Okay, fine. It's another opinion show. You don't want to do that because you know that no one would tune in for your opinions. No one cares about your opinions because you're uninteresting and uninformed. And looking at Collins makes you wonder if hairy forms are genetic or the byproduct of some kind of dysgenic deficiency. She'd benefit from a good daily multivitamin.

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[Gerald]

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[Guest/Co-host]

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[Steven Crowder]

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[Steven Crowder]

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[Steven Crowder]

Save 40% off for life. All right, let's see. This is something that I've had kind of on the burner for a while. And let's get into it. How often do you hear the accusation of fascism? Okay, what do you think it means? All right, to begin with, communism, Marxism, socialism, responsible for at least 100 million deaths in the 20th century. Okay, seems to me that should be the starting off point for every semester of history. Certainly economics, when you're looking at different socioeconomic systems, hundred million dead minimum to begin with, makes it pretty hard to

[Gerald]

say religion is the cause of all wars, right?

[Steven Crowder]

Hundred million dead. Communism, that's the toll. Now, when action is taken to disinfect a nation, and sometimes, I will admit, very radical action taken to deal with the root ideology and systems that have led to the death of 100 million people, the left yells fascism. The problem is fascism has been used historically not in the way that you've been told it's been used against communism, because with communism, socialism, right, you vote them in, you have to shoot your way out. They don't leave once they attain power, and they nationalize the means of production, distribution, which, by the way, is the goal of Marxism. So you've probably been taught, or maybe not even taught. You just have teachers point to historical examples of fascists, maybe even just one or two, and they go, see fascism bad. Have you done a little bit more? Well, hold on a second. We always want to ask why? It doesn't justify it. But the left, who is so willing to ask why, when someone commits a heinous crime against an innocent person and is willing to fight to get them out of prison, which they also don't believe in, that's a part of Marxism. They're not willing to ask why someone may have risen to power with a mandate of the masses against the representatives of an ideology that has killed again, 100 million people in the 20th century. So here's how we're going to define fascism. The way the left does. Every time someone does something to prevent the left from completely subverting a nation or to try and reverse course, the left wants you to believe that fascism, not Marxism, not communism, 100 million dead is the biggest, greatest evil threat in the world.

[Political Commentator]

We are witnessing a fascist takeover of

[Steven Crowder]

this country, and I really hope the

[Political Commentator]

Republican Party wakes up to that.

[Steven Crowder]

All power is vested in the executive. It sure looks a lot like fascism. Trump is literally a fascist. Point to one thing. Ice talk about everything Trump's doing that is fascist.

[Guest/Co-host]

At this stage, we're pretty clear on

[Unknown Announcer]

the fact that Donald Trump fashions himself an authoritarian.

[Steven Crowder]

You know, you're living in a fascist society when you're constantly going over in your house the reasons why you're safe. What we want is a country where none of us have to feel that way, because at the end of the

[Dylan Mulvaney]

day, we have a fascist in the White House.

[Steven Crowder]

It's not like fascism might come here.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Fascism has already arrived.

[Steven Crowder]

All right, that one guy who said, we want a country where everyone feels safe. I don't. What do I mean by that? I don't want communists to feel safe. I don't want people who share the goal of subverting and destroying this country. They're not, just to be clear, Marxists and those in the American Communist Party or the dsa, they don't seek to destroy America because it's fascist. They've always sought to destroy America because it's not Marxist, because it's not communist. It doesn't matter who's in power. They want to bring us to. I don't want those people to feel safe. I don't want those people to rest easy. I don't want them to create a coalition and turn this into every single communist nation that has ever existed. Let's go through some historical examples here, one that's very commonly pointed to. And just to be clear, this does not mean that I am supportive of or justifying everyone in the fascist response. Everyone involved with that. That's not what I'm saying. I'm trying to provide you with some historical context. So case one, Chile, the story you were likely told, if at all. 73 far right military dictator Pinochet. Now, you've heard this term a lot. It's become just kind of a shorthand insult for a fascist. Pinochet ousted a democratically elected Allende after a coup. Here we see this from the Atlantic.

[Gerald]

The ultimate lesson of the 1973 coup that brought in General Pinochet's dictatorship was that the people would not in the end be denied their choice.

[Steven Crowder]

Foreign affairs in there.

[Gerald]

It says Chile once boasted a longer history of stable democratic rule than most of its neighbors in much of Western Europe. Now it is the last major country on South American continent to return to civilian government after a wave of authoritarianism.

[Steven Crowder]

All right, so Pinochet came in. Oh my God. Here's the reality from 1970-73. Do you know, do you know what created Pinochet? It was the Marxist Salvador Allende. Far left, Unidad Popular Coalition. I'll just say Unidad Popular Coalition, Socialists, communists, radicals. So what were the results, by the way? Why do you think Pinochet is still popular today? You can't poll it officially, but Pinochet was immensely popular. Also left, by the way, left of his own volition, which fascists don't tend to do. So why, why would someone who was a military dictator, why would he come to power? Well, could it be because the socialist Marxist before him had inflation up 1600%, wages were down 35%. The socialist Allende responded with these price control that by the way, created entire black market and enabled crime cartels. Basic goods were selling for like 142% over normal prices on the black market. So what happened was Pinochet, with overwhelming support, could have been anybody, let's be clear, went in and cleaned things up. Now could you say that he went a little too far? Well, sure, sure. He had a few communists who went for helicopter rides and we never saw them again. But if you weren't a communist, you weren't at great risk not whitewashing everything he did, as the left does with communists. But it was a response. So what did you see? From 77 to 81, average GDP growth was about 8%. Inflation fell to single digits from quadruple digits. Poverty went from 50% as a rate to 10%. Unemployment went from 15% down to 6%. And he, again, again, this cannot be, this cannot be said enough overwhelming support Pinochet from the people for his reforms. It became known as the great Chilean experiment. By the way, even after he left power, they kept Pinochet's constitution. Did you know that? Well, I will say as a byproduct, the natives of Chile did develop a persistent fear of helicopters that we're still working on. Apocalypto.

[Josh]

Now I understand. By the way, for Peter, I just want you to know, like those numbers that you gave were long term numbers. It wasn't just like he did great for a short period of time and

[Steven Crowder]

then it reverted back.

[Josh]

These reforms seem to have held and had long term great benefit for the country.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep. And by the way, they don't always hold. No, but it is important to note that typically when you think fascist, you don't think someone who comes in with a mandate of the masses and improves the lives for everyone or leaves office. Right.

[Josh]

That's a weird one.

[Steven Crowder]

Right?

[Josh]

Usually get rid of elections.

[Gerald]

Right?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. And I get it, some people went on helicopter rides who shouldn't have. Okay, you think nobody else was being targeted under the socialist Marxist government? Have you looked anywhere in South America and see there's always a coup. There's always a coup going on right now. So I guarantee you there's a coup if it's not going on out in the public. It's being planned, someone's planning a couple, there's a coup meeting. Let's look at another case study. Brazil story you probably been told. 1964 military coup overthrew democratically elected president

[Gerald]

Jo,

[Steven Crowder]

the reality, well, look, this president, the policies destroyed, as we saw before, you know, if it didn't, didn't take part in killing 100 million people as the rest of communism. Inflation about 100% was pretty bad. GDP non existent, literally less than 1%. Pretty bad. So what did he propose? Nationalizing foreign oil refineries, by the way, seizing agricultural land, granting voter rights to the illiterate. Because he knew he would never win an election again, he doubled down on all the policies that were making everybody's lives miserable. And so what happened was the military coup came to, quote, complete the mission of restoring economic and financial order to Brazil. 64 to 74. The economic, you look at inflation, it was cut by 82%. You look at the GDP annual average rate less than 1%. It went to 11, 13%. Industry growth was up 30%. And again, the coup was supported by the people. So it's very different for people. When people hear coup, they go military dictator, military leader. When you live in a country that's been disarmed and a country that has been subject to actual corruption in a way that we don't know. This happens all across South America. There's nothing they can do. And so there can be a military to completely oppress and subjugate the people, or the military is used to liberate the people or used with the support of the people. Either way, the military is being used because the people can't do a thing. That's what happened in Brazil. The people actually had a huge. It was. It was called the March of the Family with God for freedom. And that actually took place before the coup happened. And it celebrated the coup afterwards. Can you imagine, by the way, could you imagine having industry growth of 30% and a GDP of like 15, which. Ah, this coffee is disgusting. Did someone replace a strange animal blend with Maxwell House? Who would do such a thing? Oh, it was I, the Phantom of the Studio. Okay, look, a harmless prank. It's one thing, Phantom, but to screw with a man's coffee, that's crossing a line. Okay, you need to get out of here. Phantom, go the studio. Whip, this is. You got it, boss. Oh, one more thing. What's that? Later on. Enjoy your tea. Oh, he probably wrecked it.

[Josh]

Guy's a jerk.

[Guest/Co-host]

I'd try the tea.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, it's later on. I don't have the tea.

[Guest/Co-host]

Yeah, try it.

[Steven Crowder]

But at least now I know he's gonna do it.

[Unknown Announcer]

Yeah. All right.

[Steven Crowder]

I feel like Josh is in on this.

[Guest/Co-host]

I feel like I don't even know. I don't know that guy.

[Josh]

I think we're getting somewhere with this theory.

[Steven Crowder]

More fashion. Oh, crap.

[Guest/Co-host]

I didn't realize.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, we went a little bit over time. Look, we're gonna go to case number three. Espang. That's Spain. So if you are not yet a Rumble Premium member. Hey, click that button right there. It's what keeps the lights on. It's what allows us to do what we do. You get 100% more show everything ad free this wonderful hand etched mug until they run out. Otherwise, you can try it for $9 a month. We're gonna continue for another, I don't know, hour or so. Let's get to the fascism of Spain.