Just Release the Damn Epstein Files - End It Once and For All

Summary

Louder with Crowder

Episode: Just Release the Damn Epstein Files – End It Once and For All
Date: November 13, 2025
Host: Steven Crowder | Regulars: Nick DePaolo, Scott Jennings, Josh Firestein

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Louder with Crowder" takes on several of the week's most controversial topics, centering primarily on the demand for transparency around the Jeffrey Epstein files. Crowder and the crew analyze media narratives, push back against allegations linking former President Trump to Epstein’s crimes, and argue for full release of Epstein-related documents. The hosts also lampoon coverage by media figures like Abby Phillip (CNN), critique SNAP (food stamp) policies with a comedic “Snap Feast,” and discuss social trends such as the praise or condemnation of childlessness in modern culture, referencing actor Timothée Chalamet’s comments on the subject.

Crowder's tone throughout is combative, irreverent, and relentlessly satirical, with heavy use of politically incorrect and intentionally provocative humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Epstein Files and the Media Frenzy

• Crowder begins by highlighting the renewed focus on the Epstein files, noting their omnipresence on social media and in mainstream news.
  • "[The Epstein files] is everywhere. If you go to Reddit politics, it's like 19 of the top 20 topics." (00:45)
• He vehemently calls for the full release of the Epstein files, arguing both parties have failed to ensure transparency and urging, "the American people are entitled to it because we watched this corruption play in real time." (10:50)
• Crowder and the team challenge the narrative, frequently pushed by leftist media, that there are new revelations implicating Trump in Epstein's crimes. He critiques what he perceives to be a lack of actual evidence, referencing media coverage and specific claims against Trump.
  • "Anyone... have any proof whatsoever that Donald Trump took part in, aided, abetted sex trafficking or personally engaged in inappropriate relations with a minor? Anyone have proof? Send it to me." (11:30)

• Critical Quotes & Exchanges:

• “Release the files and everyone will shut up. This doesn't need to be a 48 hour news cycle.” (10:57)
• “This is how you know the left is gaslighting you and lying.” (12:57)
• Reading from transcripts and sworn statements, Crowder asserts that the individual most often cited (Virginia Giuffre) has publicly and repeatedly stated Trump was neither involved nor associated with criminal sexual activity.
  • "It's true that Trump didn't partake in any sex with us, and it's not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me." (16:05)
• Crowder further points out that even attorneys and investigators, some politically opposed to Trump, have stated he cooperated fully with their inquiries.
  • “‘He is the only person who picked up the phone…’” (19:29, quoting an Epstein case lawyer)

• Media Criticism:

• The team frequently mocks the presentation of “new evidence,” asserting both parties have mishandled the issue but that currently-released files contain nothing substantively new implicating Trump.

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2. Legacy Media—Focus on Abby Phillip (CNN)

• Crowder launches into a scathing critique of CNN’s Abby Phillip, accusing her and other legacy media figures of gatekeeping the narrative and failing basic journalistic standards.
  • "Abby Phillip... she is grossly overpaid. And she wants to present herself as alternative." (25:21)
  • "If you're so lazy that you can't hit rewind 30 seconds, then you're of no value as a journalist." (36:41)

• Debunking Claims and Fact-Checking

• Crowder provides several examples where Abby Phillip (and related panelists) allegedly spread misinformation or failed to provide evidence for severe claims, such as the “very fine people on both sides” quote and stories of children being abandoned due to Trump policies.
  • "The alleged incident... took place in Aurora, Illinois." (27:09)
• The hosts highlight what they see as willful deception or, at best, ignorance among mainstream broadcasters.

• Notable Moments

• Satirical television pitches: "Two Dumb Bitches" as a sitcom based on Abby Phillip and Joy Reid. (26:13)
• Crowder’s invitation: "Abby Phillip, you'd be welcome to come on this show and we'll be respectful." (37:17)

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3. Debate on Childlessness & Social Trends

• Crowder, referencing Timothée Chalamet’s comments (from a Vogue interview), and viral TikTok content, critiques the trend of "bragging about being childless," arguing this is symptomatic of a cultural malaise.
  • “Short-term pleasure is not the same thing as happiness or purpose.” (41:18)
• The crew presents data from recent studies linking life satisfaction to parenthood, suggesting foregoing family in pursuit of “freedom” leads to lower life satisfaction.
  • “Parenthood results in higher life satisfaction, fewer symptoms of psychological distress.” (44:22)
• Strongly encourages young women in particular to prioritize making families over careers if unsure about having children, stressing the realities of the biological clock.
  • "If you don't know, prioritize that first so that you have all options available to you." (48:02)

• Notable Satire:

• Mocking social media posts cited by the Daily Mail as “evidence” that Chalamet angered a legion of fans, when in reality they had minimal engagement.
• "They both work at Vogue." (43:57, Nick DePaolo)

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4. SNAP (Food Stamps) Program and the 'Snap Feast'

• Crowder devotes a significant segment to ridiculing the U.S. SNAP program, claiming it is rife with abuse and offers little accountability.
  • "SNAP is a failed program. It is designed to be abused." (50:54)
• To make his point, Crowder and crew conduct a “Snap Feast”—showcasing luxury and expensive food items that, according to them, can be purchased or delivered with SNAP benefits.
  • "Everything you see can be purchased through using EBT in the SNAP program and delivered straight to your door." (54:32)
  • “$70 an ounce. Are you kidding? It’s like perfume.” (57:36)

• Notable Menu Items in the Snap Feast:

• Estate Grade White Sturgeon Caviar ($69.99/oz)
• Sourdough flatbread crackers, Chilean sea bass ($37.99/lb), prime beef ribeye ($34.99/lb)
• Wild caught Gulf white shrimp, prosciutto, Parmigiano Reggiano cheese ($29.99/lb)
• Drunken goat cheese (soaked in wine, $21.99/lb), edible chamomile flowers, truffle oil, and fig spread.

• Core Arguments:

• SNAP recipients spend more and are more obese than comparably poor Americans who don’t use it.
  • "SNAP recipients spend twice the amount per grocery trip than non-SNAP recipients. Also, people on SNAP are more obese compared to other low-income Americans who choose not to use SNAP." (51:27)
• Crowder and the crew continuously mock the idea that “food deserts” justify the current structure of SNAP.
  • "It can pretty much be shipped to every municipality in the poor [or] rich." (51:09)

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Memorable Quotes

• “I think all the files should be released...I don't like that all the files aren't being released...That’s my position.” – Steven Crowder (10:50)
• “This is the proof from the left that Jeffrey Epstein, noted liar, was talking to someone else, noted liar and quoted. I can’t remember. Some sort of fiction...” – Crowder (15:43)
• “The victim is Virginia Guiffre...testified that Trump did not partake in any fashion in the sex ring...She endorsed Donald Trump in 2024.” – Crowder (16:05–17:13)
• “Maybe Virginia was saying this because she knows something that the media is covering up. You know, like her name.” – Crowder (18:35)
• “If you say something that, I don't know, 15, 20 years ago was not even remotely controversial and they attack you, ooh, that means it's their underbelly.” – Crowder (41:49)
• “If you're so lazy that you can't hit rewind 30 seconds, then you're of no value as a journalist.” – Crowder (36:41)
• “SNAP is a failed program. It is designed to be abused.” – Crowder (50:54)
• “$70 an ounce. Are you kidding? It’s like perfume.” – Nick DePaolo (57:36)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:45 – Crowder introduces the Epstein files discussion
• 10:50 – 15:45 – Main arguments & dispute about Trump’s links to Epstein, reading from victim transcripts
• 16:05 – 19:38 – Testimony from Epstein victim exonerating Trump & lawyer recounting Trump’s cooperation
• 24:10 – Critique of Abby Phillip & media narratives
• 27:09 – 30:18 – Debunking the “abandoned children in Illinois” narrative
• 34:10 – 37:17 – Abby Phillip and the “very fine people” quote, with offer to debate her on air
• 38:47 – 44:25 – Discussion of Timothée Chalamet, childlessness, social meaning, and studies on life satisfaction
• 50:54 – 60:40 – 'Snap Feast' segment: luxury foods on SNAP, parody of the food stamp program

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Structure & Tone

• Highly satirical, combative, and irreverent—typical of Crowder’s show
• Heavy focus on media criticism, especially of progressive outlets and personalities
• Attempt to use news and real data as comedic ammunition, especially with the “Snap Feast”
• Cross-talk and running jokes are frequent, especially between Crowder and Nick DePaolo

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Who This Episode Is For

Listeners interested in conservative takes on current events, critical (and comedic) deconstruction of media narratives, and heated (often abrasive) debates about the intersection of news, social policy, and pop culture.

This episode is especially suited for those skeptical of mainstream media, interested in the Epstein case, and looking for arguments against food stamp program abuses and contemporary trends toward childlessness.

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Note: This summary covers the main points, memorable moments, and the specific guests/topics referenced throughout. The episode’s humor is often adult and intentionally controversial, typical of Louder with Crowder.

Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

Welcome to the lineup. Live on rumble, 9:00am Eastern to 7:00pm that's every day. All these shows are live, and they roll into the next. You know, it's like. It's like watching a television, you know, on a cable network, only it doesn't suck. Speaking of suck. Look, sorry. Yesterday we had technical difficulties. It turns out that using our Tricast or control board like a porta Potty is not prudent. Toolman Tim. But. So we're gonna take another crack at this, because now people have already responded. The Epstein files, the latest. Oh, boy. This is everywhere. If you go to Reddit, politics, it's like 19 of the top 20 topics. We'll shoot you straight. Abby Phillip. You know her. She's retarded, but has nothing to do with her blackness. But she considers herself an arbiter of truth. So we'll get into that and Timothee Chalamet based. I say yes. What say you comment below and finally go to the longshot. Tool man, we had all this. We had to put everything back in the fridge, in the freezer. Our Snap banquet. Everything you see can be ordered through Snap online. With only $4.99 shipping monthly, they don't have to pay the same shipping costs you do. And we actually checked to see everything here actually can be shipped to Jackson, Missouri. So all you food desert people, stop whining, stop making excuses, and get on a treadmill. On with the show. Hey, Tool man, you okay? Oh, yeah, yeah. Just trying to get these stitches out, but I can't really see what I'm doing. You're doing it yourself? Yeah, I always do it myself. Yeah, that's not gonna work.

[Nick DePaolo]

Here, let me help.

[Steven Crowder]

Are those sterile? Ah, probably.

[Nick DePaolo]

Don't worry about it.

[Steven Crowder]

Just turn around. Yeah.

[Nick DePaolo]

Nah, trust me, Trust me.

[Steven Crowder]

Trust me. Josh, what the f.

[Nick DePaolo]

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[Steven Crowder]

This is.

[Nick DePaolo]

This is a good part right here. That's where all the protein is. And the amino acids.

[Steven Crowder]

Nice.

[Nick DePaolo]

A nick. How you doing there?

[Steven Crowder]

Fell.

[Nick DePaolo]

Oh, sorry. Did you see the sign? My lap. 1500 pound weight limit there. I don't eat salads. Well, I'm only like, 200.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, on the moon.

[Nick DePaolo]

Okay. What do you want Let me guess. Chocolate Santas, huh? Baked potatoes, Something in the carb field? Call me a detective, but you like your carbs.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, yeah.

[Scott Jennings]

Okay.

[Nick DePaolo]

But I just wanted to ask you for a new game. Oh, you want a new game?

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Nick DePaolo]

What's it called? Portion control.

[Steven Crowder]

What is it?

[Nick DePaolo]

What do you mean?

[Steven Crowder]

What are you supposed.

[Nick DePaolo]

I thought you're supposed to be jolly.

[Steven Crowder]

You're out here roasting.

[Nick DePaolo]

I'm not jolly. For Christ's sake. They got me at the end of the mall. This beer. This thing's gotta go up like a pair of baby's pajamas with each cigarette. You got the black kids over there at the Foot Locker throwing me all day. I'm supposed to be in a good mood. Yeah, okay. Ho, ho, ho. Your mother's a ho.

[Steven Crowder]

That's.

[Nick DePaolo]

My femur right now is bending. It's gonna be a. We're gonna have a Joe Joe Theisman thing in about two seconds.

[Steven Crowder]

Maybe you'll walk straight.

[Nick DePaolo]

Explain the game. I want to get off.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, come on. That's enough.

[Nick DePaolo]

Look like a damn parade float.

[Steven Crowder]

Damn it.

[Nick DePaolo]

Who's next? Ho, ho, ho. Your mother's a ho.

[Steven Crowder]

Click Rumble Premium and join now for 99 annually or 9.99amonth, to get the entirely ad free experience and an ever expanding roster of content creators and free speec. Glad to be with you. And we are.

[Nick DePaolo]

That's true.

[Steven Crowder]

Jackson, Mississippi. There is a Jackson, Missouri. But we did check because Jackson, Mississippi is one of the poorest places in the country. And we wanted to double check that we could have our Snap Feast delivered. There you go. Long shot, Tool man. Long shot. Snap Feast delivered to a very poor area because food deserts are not a thing. So we're gonna go through that a little bit later. I deserve to be admonished, but I've only been to Jackson, Missouri. Never miss a sipcast. Why?

[Nick DePaolo]

There you go.

[Steven Crowder]

Cause yesterday.

[Nick DePaolo]

Yeah, that was not my fault.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, well, it was.

[Nick DePaolo]

Somebody said simple admonishing responsibility.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep, that's true. Your CEO. Extreme ownership, Gerald. All right, let me ask you this question of the day. What would be the first thing you would buy with your EBT card? Number one purchase item on SNAP is Coca Cola. $9 billion a year, sugary soda, but we'll just say Coca Cola for shorthand. But what would you buy? Would it be the caviar? We'll get to it. It's a live show, weekdays, 11am Eastern. Captain Morgan, CEO. Sorry. You're sick. So I want you to save your voice. Plus, I want you to shut up and 6pm Eastern on the Rumble Live lineup. You can watch him daily. The funniest man alive. Trying it for a SECOND Go today, Mr. Nick DePolo. How are you, sir? How are you?

[Nick DePaolo]

We gonna do a show today?

[Steven Crowder]

We'll see. See how this goes. I don't know. Actually, our first. First thing here. I don't know if Nick has been here when we featured our favorite rapper, so this is even better than I anticipated.

[Nick DePaolo]

Oh, boy.

[Steven Crowder]

Your favorite Congolese rapper, MC Baba, that's the Mecca, is back with a new jam. He's the one squeaking. Nick, this is not satire. Totally real. Oh, he's deaf and mute. I should have told you. Sorry. I should have told you. He's deaf and mute. Is he Milk? Yeah. You're kidding me. I'm not.

[Nick DePaolo]

You got to be.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm not kidding you. He's deaf and mute, but he's a wonderful talent.

[Nick DePaolo]

That was his premiere hit. It went to number one. It was called Broken Fan Belt. Holy. Get a can of PW40.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I know.

[Nick DePaolo]

That is hilarious.

[Steven Crowder]

Deaf and mute. But I guess mute doesn't. I guess you can still be mute, but it still. You can go.

[Nick DePaolo]

Yeah, I have a bit of. I don't like deaf people trying to talk. That should be outlawed. Well, they sound stuck.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, but they really sound like.

[Nick DePaolo]

You don't see blind people going, hey, look over there. Look over there behind me. What?

[Steven Crowder]

He's blind too. He's blind too. No, he's not. That was just me being good.

[Nick DePaolo]

I would have been a fan, by the way.

[Steven Crowder]

No, this is real. He's. I'm so glad that we actually had a camera on Nick, because he was.

[Nick DePaolo]

How did you. Where do you find this stuff?

[Steven Crowder]

I. You know, we live a very childish life, all of us here.

[Nick DePaolo]

We're.

[Steven Crowder]

We're. We're all children. But here's. Here's a bonus for you.

[Nick DePaolo]

He also pays like adults.

[Steven Crowder]

But go ahead, MC Baba. Let's say. Say his. Say his name. Or as he says, he also appeared with an African pirate robot in another song as a guest spot. Wait for it.

[Nick DePaolo]

Is somebody signaling him on.

[Steven Crowder]

Off. That's somebody's wedding song.

[Nick DePaolo]

He's. He's gonna get shot when he's signing in the wrong neighborhood.

[Steven Crowder]

Come on. I don't think he can sign. He's.

[Nick DePaolo]

Somebody's like, yeah, drop it now.

[Steven Crowder]

You can't hear it. You know what the funny thing is? This is not. This is not new. He's actually. He's actually been pretty popular in the hip hop community. And he's even been guest spotting on American tracks. You see this one? He actually did this. This one was a pretty popular. People skimmed past it with. With Nelly. One of my favorites.

[Nick DePaolo]

I think she's leaving.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, man. She's leaving. I don't know what else to do. Oh my God. Oh my God. It turned out so much fun when we were writing it.

[Nick DePaolo]

Doing a remake of Flipper. He's going to be doing the voiceover. That's mean, Nick.

[Steven Crowder]

That involves swimming. Yeah.

[Nick DePaolo]

Oh my God.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, geez.

[Nick DePaolo]

I am loving m. He is.

[Steven Crowder]

He. I'm sick.

[Nick DePaolo]

I'm on the edge.

[Steven Crowder]

He is on the edge.

[Nick DePaolo]

Well, that. No. When you get sick. When you're sick doing comedy, there's no.

[Steven Crowder]

It's like a. It's like a tired boxer. He's dangerous. His inhibitions are gone.

[Nick DePaolo]

That's the word.

[Steven Crowder]

What do you hear him talk about? The Jews?

[Nick DePaolo]

What a good voice. It's like Neil Young.

[Steven Crowder]

The black Neil Young, you mean. Take a look at my life.

[Nick DePaolo]

Take a look. I'm a lot like you.

[Steven Crowder]

Out of the blue and into the blood. All right, Sorry. We just want. That's a cleanse. Palate Epstein files.

[Nick DePaolo]

Wow, what a transition.

[Steven Crowder]

Let me preface this, okay. I tried to commit suicide in Jeffrey Epstein's cell, which we recreated. Okay. I don't think that it's likely. It's technically possible. I think there was foul play. I'm not afraid to take the unpopular positions. I think all the files should be released. I think that the American people are entitled to it because we watched this corruption play in real time. That would be best case scenario. I don't like that all the files aren't being released. Now you could place the blame on both parties because we've had plenty of time. That's my position. Outside of that, guys. Anyone. Does anyone have any proof whatsoever that Donald Trump took part in aided, abetted sex trafficking or personally engaged in inappropriate relations with a minor? Anyone have proof? Send it to me. Outside of that position has released the files and everyone will shut up. This doesn't need to be a 48 hour news cycle. It was disastrous. Pam Bondi. They couldn't stop stepping on rakes themselves. But the leftist media acting as though there's something new, some revelation, it's just not so. Anyway, everyone is still making this the talking point of the day. And yesterday because some new emails were released by the House Oversight Committee. Here you go. Here's the reaction. It feels like a good political moment for Democrats and an astonishing moment for Donald Trump. When you See Jeffrey Epstein coming back into the headlines. The one thing you are trying to bury. According to newly released emails from Democrats on the house Oversight Committee, CNN's reporting the emails show Epstein asserts Trump spent significant time with a woman whom Oversight Democrats describe as a victim of Epstein's sex trafficking.

[Nick DePaolo]

Now, Trump and his Republicans, especially Speaker.

[Steven Crowder]

Of the House Mike Johnson and his MAGA enablers in Fox News, whores are complicit in an extraordinary disgusting cover up. Thanks. Another cover up of pedophilia.

[Nick DePaolo]

Trump is now guilty.

[Steven Crowder]

Epstein has provided the evidence. Pause, horse. Well, then there should be no more conversation. Hey, lock him up. He's guilty. Yeah. Why do we need any more files? He's guilty. This is how you know the left is gaslighting you and lying. Doesn't mean that there hasn't been mishandling. But he is guilty. He is absolutely guilty. Okay, thanks, Dave. Medna, thanks for talking to your possums. Let's continue. He knew about the girls as he asked Elaine to stop. So to summarize, Trump spent hours with one of Epstein's victims. You look like a fetus.

[Nick DePaolo]

There's clearly more that they're trying to hide here.

[Steven Crowder]

Clearly we've, like, moved past this because.

[Nick DePaolo]

We all assume that the Trump administration lies about everything.

[Steven Crowder]

But they have been caught.

[Nick DePaolo]

Even if there is nothing else here, they have been caught in so many lies.

[Steven Crowder]

The GOP has a decision to make.

[Nick DePaolo]

What a big girl this guy is.

[Steven Crowder]

Finally, once and for all against child trafficking, including when it involves the leader of your own party. Or you admit that as long as he hates the same people you hate, you're willing to tolerate child trafficking. How about you don't dictate any terms to me, you silly, shitty little bitch.

[Nick DePaolo]

Stephen, the language.

[Steven Crowder]

I think it's okay, right? I think there's an exemption. I believe it says it somewhere in the back of the Bible for Kinzinger.

[Nick DePaolo]

Yes. Jezebel. Jezebel.

[Steven Crowder]

That's the worst. The turncoat is like, I was a Republican. Really? Well, about what? What are you conservative about?

[Nick DePaolo]

You know what.

[Steven Crowder]

And here's a litmus test, by the way, to all this infighting, too, going on the right. And I would apply this to Kinzinger. What have you done to fight the left? I know some people punch, right? And I get it, okay? You want to say that some people shouldn't be amongst the right and they've let it the wrong way, okay? But what have you done to fight the left? That's my standard. Everyone out. If you're a conservative, the People, you're following the talking heads, the hosts. Ask yourself, what has this person done to fight the left? They're very clear examples of people who've done a lot. Scott Pressler, very clear what he did in that election. Charlie Kirk, very clear what he did in creating an organization. I would obviously put this entire team there and calling states for the election. Undercover journalism. But people out there, not just Kinzinger, but people right now on social media who are clickbaiting, who are muckraking drama. What have they done? What have you, any of these people done to fight the left? Kinzinger, you say you are a Republican. What have you done in the last half decade to fight the left? Go until you can answer. Don't dictate any terms to me. This is what they're basing it on. Okay. There was an email exchange from Epstein to Maxwell to Julian. Maxwell said, I want you to realize that dog hasn't barked. Is Trump the victim spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been. He has never once been mentioned. And then Maxwell responded, I've been thinking about that. I don't know if you know this. Epstein has been known. He has a tendency to lie.

[Nick DePaolo]

What?

[Steven Crowder]

I don't know if he does. He's not necessarily Rep. He has a tendency to name drop even people who don't like him. This is the proof from the left that Jeffrey Epstein, noted liar, was talking to someone else. Noted liar and quoted. I can't remember. Some, some kind of fiction. It's, you know, the dog that doesn't bark. That means that Donald Trump was in on it. Let's assume that's what he's saying. Any evidence of that? Well, let me give you some evidence that proves or would suggest this is not true. Turns out the victim. So the person they're talking about, the victim and everyone in the media saying, and this victim, Donald Trump didn't. He knew about it. He didn't help her. This poor lady. Well, the victim is Virginia Guff. I don't know how it's pronounced. Yeah, late victim, sorry, she's no longer with us. She testified also, you should know her name was withheld. Her name was withheld from the leftist media for a long time. They redacted it, even though she didn't ask for that and came out and campaigned for Donald Trump. So the victim in question, who Donald Trump harmed, testified that Trump did not partake in any fashion in the sex ring. Now, she could be lying, Sure. I would tend to imagine that she would have a bias where she'd want to see people fried who are involved with it, you know, like Epstein and Maxwell, some reason, incredibly supportive of Trump. So let me read you from this transcript. It's true that Trump didn't partake in any sex with us, and it's not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me. Here are the questions and answers from her. What is the basis for your statement that Donald Trump is a good friend of Jeffrey's? She just said, Jeffrey told me that Donald Trump is a good friend of his. That's it. Question. But you never observed them together? Answer from Virginia. No, not that I can actually remember. I mean, not off the top of my head, no. Question. Did you ever see Donald Trump at Jeffrey's home? Answer, not that I can remember. Question. On his island? Answer, no, not that I can remember. In New Mexico, New York. Not that I can remember. And then here's the post where she endorsed Donald Trump in 2024, saying, I met Trump when I worked at Mar A Lago. Hopefully our new president. Again, does that sound like a lady who's the victim of this man as it relates to sex trafficking? No. Typically, they don't come out and condemn the people who were involved in sex trafficking and then praise other people who are involved in sex trafficking. Just to be clear, why did the left withhold her name? She was public. She talked about it. Why didn't they want you to know? Oh, because maybe you might go search the transcript and let's say that Trump was involved in some other facet. Release the files. I agree. Okay. Not this one. We know the left is lying about this one. Donald Trump had nothing to do with. With any type of sexual impropriety with this woman. He even said so, by the way, himself. Which is good enough for me.

[Nick DePaolo]

And I say it with as much respect as I can, but she is not my type.

[Steven Crowder]

I get it. See? And that was when she was alive. That's true. In her prime, as people say.

[Nick DePaolo]

Now they're calling them gay.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly. There's no winning with this. By the way. Download the Rumble app. That's the best. Follow me. Follow Nick DePaula. It's the best way to stay in touch. Don't be beholden to the YouTube, Big Tech algorithmic overlords who hate you. And by the way, here's the thing. Maybe Virginia was saying this because she knows something that the media is covering up. You know, like her name. But maybe she also knows something that attorneys and those involved with the case have stated Multiple times that President Trump was the only person of note who helped with the investigation proactively. Here's some clips.

[Nick DePaolo]

The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009, when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people that I was going, that I wanted.

[Steven Crowder]

To talk to them, he is the.

[Nick DePaolo]

Only person who picked up the phone and said, let's just talk. I'll give you as much time as you want. I'll tell you what, what you need.

[Steven Crowder]

To know and was very helpful in.

[Nick DePaolo]

The information that he gave and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved.

[Steven Crowder]

In anything untoward whatsoever, but had good.

[Nick DePaolo]

Information that checked out and that helped.

[Steven Crowder]

Us and that we didn't have to.

[Nick DePaolo]

Take a deposition of him.

[Steven Crowder]

That was in 2009. That was in 2009.

[Nick DePaolo]

I talked to President Clinton. I'm sorry, President Trump back in 2009 and several times after that.

[Steven Crowder]

He didn't think that it was a hoax then.

[Nick DePaolo]

In fact, he helped me. He got on the phone, he told me things that were helping our investigation.

[Steven Crowder]

Now, our investigation wasn't looking into him.

[Nick DePaolo]

But he was helping us then. He didn't treat this as a hoax.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. And keep in mind the context. That guy doesn't like Trump right now. He's on the other side of Trump.

[Nick DePaolo]

That's right.

[Steven Crowder]

But he didn't realize he said the quiet part out loud because now he's just saying, well, what is it you're saying? Donald Trump said? Hoax. As far as it's a hoax, that Donald Trump is involved right now. I get it. You can say we don't know because we don't have all the files, but didn't we also go through MeToo where these women suffer in silence? You need to help them. You need to be an ally, an advocate, someone working with the authorities and reporting it in a position of power. Wouldn't that be about as much as you can ask for? We know he did that.

[Nick DePaolo]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Now, did he know about it before? I would assume he probably knew something untoward was going on. That's why he banned Epstein from Mar A Lago and that's why he cooperated. This isn't news. Hey, Donald Trump knew that Epstein was a pervert. I assumed that's why he kicked him out. I assume that's why they had a falling out. The left wants to drag this out until midterms. Don't let them. And you know what? I will say this. Anyone on the right in this administration, people like the Bondis of the world, you're giving them a gift. If you don't just help push to release all these files.

[Nick DePaolo]

This should have been done a long time ago. The Democrats had an opportunity to do it. It's something that we keep forgetting in this entire conversation is that this is not new information.

[Steven Crowder]

They didn't just find these emails.

[Nick DePaolo]

They've been in their possession for a long time. But the Trump administration has screwed up at every turn with Epstein file release. Every single turn.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Nick DePaolo]

Fix it. Move on.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep. I agree. We need the information they've screwed up. Doesn't mean he's a sex trafficker. No, that's the issue. And the left is trying to tell you that there's something new. There is nothing new. Speaking of sex trafficking. Look, there are few people on earth who annoy me more than strippers. Which is why we don't take super chats. We do reverse super chats and treat you like the real work. Sex work is real work. Stripper. That's right. And today the folks at Blackout Coffee are giving away 50 free rumble premium subscriptions. They were just gifted in the chat. By the way, this is my own personal blend here that we use in the office. That's why it's a comically large bag. You can go and order strange animal brew. Blackout coffee.com. crowder. It's a medium full city roast. It works great for espresso, great for pour over. It's a good daily driver, and you get 20% off your first order if you use a promo code. Crowder, send me your. Your screenshot. If you were gifted a sub on X or on Instagram, we appreciate it. You're welcome. Because we just can't stop giving. That's what we're a giver. We're a giver. We're a. We're a gift giver. Well, no, not. Not the gift bug chasing. Take us out. Stinger super chat.

[Nick DePaolo]

The 15 pound bag is on its way.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, very nice.

[Nick DePaolo]

That lasts me two days.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, up next, Abby. Phillip.

[Nick DePaolo]

Was that his second hit?

[Steven Crowder]

I'm waiting for his Christmas album.

[Nick DePaolo]

Bing Crosby and Dummy. Oh, God.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, silly. By the way, no hip hop. I guess now there's one. But no hip hop songs in the top 40 for the first time in like 20 years.

[Nick DePaolo]

Man, does that make me hard.

[Steven Crowder]

I think, I think, I think. Was it Cardi B or Megan, like, just broke it. But culture is shifting. You guys can comment below. Why do you think that is? I think there's less investment in hip hop, but also the culture is shifting where people are a little bit tired of it. Yeah, we don't really want to be a culture like this. It's kind of crappy.

[Nick DePaolo]

We have to work on TV music. It's an epidemic. Everything is. I don't care if they're showing the lineup in an NFL game. Under it, there's always going to be fucking R and B. I know that house music. It's making me fucking cr. I hated it when I was in my 20s.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Nick DePaolo]

That artificial drum beat, that synthetic and. Yeah, it's in everything. It's on the commercials. It's. If you're on YouTube trying to do something and all of a sudden it'll come on at 14 volume and. But it's dance music. It's everywhere. Go to get a haircut. It's in there.

[Steven Crowder]

It's the.

[Nick DePaolo]

Who said that?

[Steven Crowder]

He's just trying. He's just trying to wind you up. He's just trying to wind you up. Ignore him. Son of a gun. You're better than. You're better than this. He's not.

[Nick DePaolo]

No, he's Greg. Okay. He's been on like.

[Steven Crowder]

That's the problem. He keeps guessing. You're like, I don't know. Is he a socio.

[Nick DePaolo]

I know.

[Steven Crowder]

Or is he a good man? Could he be both? The duality of man. No duality here. She's just an idiot. Abby Phillip. Very one note. You know how like writers and, you know, directors, people who create films with character, they want to make it three dimensional. They want to make this person relatable, conflicted, none of that. And Abby, Philip, she is. And again, you separate. It's not because. I know. It's easy to again, try not to be racist. It's easy to attribute it to her blackness when she constantly makes her blackness a point. But she's an idiot. Separate right from the ethnicity. So Abby Phillip went on Joy Reid's show.

[Nick DePaolo]

She has a show still.

[Steven Crowder]

That bitch. Yeah, Abby. No. Joy Reid has a podcast. Abby Phillip has a show on cnn. And she was talking about how her job is. And this is everything wrong with legacy media. And isn't it beautiful that now they're the underdog? They can't compete with a show like this. They can't compete with people out there who are doing it on their own. She was talking about how her job, Abby Phillip, is to get the truth to the masses.

[Scott Jennings]

Conservatives are living in a completely different information world. Absolutely.

[Steven Crowder]

Where we have it.

[Scott Jennings]

And breaking that down needs to be done. Because when you don't ever even hear the facts, it's hard to even know that you're wrong. And that happens a lot.

[Nick DePaolo]

Why is she talking to Rodman's cousin?

[Scott Jennings]

Half my job sometimes is knowing what the latest conspiracy is. Look at that comes up. I'm ready to address it because it happens a lot where people don't even know that what they're saying or what they've seen and believe is not true. And so that happens a lot. And I don't come away from that saying, what's the point of this? People are just saying false things. I think that one time that that person brings up something that is debunked and false and I debunk it at the table. Might be the very first time that someone out there has heard an alternative point of view.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, it's the first time someone's heard an alternative view. Said the lady who hosts Abby Phillip tonight on cnn. She saw alternative. Next stop a nose ring. She could be a teller at Hot Topic. Is it Abby Phillip tonight? Whatever her. It's a nightly show on a network for which she is grossly overpaid. And she wants. She wants to present herself as alternative. The interview, by the way, with Joy Reid was so popular and inspired. Actually new sitcom coming to TBS next week. Two dumb bitches. All right.

[Nick DePaolo]

Set my dbr.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I bet you one of them is messy. So this is the clip they used to set up that discussion as though she, Abby Phillip is the beacon of truth telling. They're abandoning small children alone in cars while they. No, there. No, it's not false. Look it up. Don't just say false.

[Nick DePaolo]

I actually abandoning small children over to hsbc.

[Steven Crowder]

There were actually small children abandoned in a highway in a car in Cicero, Illinois. Small children abandoned in Cicero, Illinois.

[Nick DePaolo]

Would you like me they're not with.

[Steven Crowder]

Example of what is happening. Of course.

[Nick DePaolo]

They're training them.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, a quick aside. She has to thank you because you made fun of her for so long. The fat jokes that. That's why she lost weight.

[Nick DePaolo]

That's right. I write for another show and then every night they pound on it. I introduced the and honest to God, I could mark the calendar where it started. And there's a few other ones too. I can't get to Nadler. He won't break.

[Steven Crowder]

Do you have a Anna Navarro's fat abacus just in case?

[Nick DePaolo]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, Z. I have her.

[Nick DePaolo]

I have a pie chart of her period.

[Steven Crowder]

It's empty. It is no slice. So look here. They use that to set up the Discussion. Right. Okay, let me just. Again, so you understand and you're following this because it's difficult to follow, but I'm going to disabuse you of this notion if you believe it. The time that I introduce facts said Abby Phillip, would be the first time that these conservatives who are so ill informed out there living in a different world might hear this alternative opinion and actually get real information. What they used to set it up was that clip where Ana Navarro, who owes Nick DePaulo a thank you, said there were children abandoned on a highway in a truck in Cicero, Illinois. I believe she said. Okay, here's the truth. The alleged incident, by the way, took place in Aurora, Illinois. And just so you know, when the left says proof and people didn't know about this. Okay, there should. That's a very outlandish claim. There should be a substantial amount of proof. Yeah. Happened in Aurora. And here is the video proof that a child was abandoned as per Trump orders in Illinois. Okay, there's a still. Here's the video. I know what you're saying. Where's the boy who's abandoned? Right. That's what I thought. Well, here it is. Yeah. Hold on. The proof, like I just saw that. There's the proof. A separate still of a boy who apparently is 5:11. That's it. That's the proof. Yeah. Wrong city. That's the proof. You should know this. Look it up. I looked it up. I don't see any proof. As a matter of fact, I only see a still of a boy in the arms of a man. So he would clearly not seem abandoned. And it's not in the right city. She was conflating it with this clip that was from Cicero, which has nothing to do with an abandoned boy. This video quickly spread across social media. A teenage girl on the side of.

[Scott Jennings]

The road shielding her younger siblings as.

[Steven Crowder]

ICE agents arrest their parents and older brother after a traffic stop in September. Your brother, is he a citizen?

[Scott Jennings]

We don't answer questions.

[Steven Crowder]

According to dhs, their parents, Constantina Ramirez and Moises Enciso Sr. Are undocumented Mexican immigrants. They have lived in Cicero, a suburb outside of Chicago, for nearly 20 years. So that's. They use that. In other words, that's the best clip they could find.

[Nick DePaolo]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Of this buried story from conservatives. What Ana Navarro just said to Scott Jennings. They say you live in a different reality. I will tell you that we have another change of mind coming up regarding SNAP on Monday. We have a QR code that we give to people so they can check all the references most of the time the leftists sitting down reject it. So what they hope is they go look it up. They hope that you don't look it up. They're not transparent about their sources. And if you do look it up, there is no proof. The same people who do that reject a QR code with hand delivered references. I would say about 80% of the time. Who's gatekeeping? Who's living in a different world devoid of truth? Maybe Abby meant to point to these examples of truth on her show. That might have been surprising if people heard it for the first time. Like her talking with Scott Jennings about gerrymandering.

[Scott Jennings]

So what does it signify? That Republicans ahead of the midterms believe that it's going to be so necessary to get an upper hand that they have to actually redraw an entire state's congressional maps in order to get five whole seats out of it?

[Nick DePaolo]

Oh, probably the same thing that it signifies when they did it now. Illinois and got a 143 delegation for D's. Maryland 7 to 1. Massachusetts 9 to 0.

[Steven Crowder]

We know what happened here in New York, California, even though they have a.

[Nick DePaolo]

Commission, we all know what goes on there.

[Scott Jennings]

Verifiable in a mid cycle specifically are all of those cases in mid cycles.

[Nick DePaolo]

All of these cases are where Democrats use the power they have to give them an advice.

[Scott Jennings]

But just to be clear.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, but Mr. Jennings, did it happen during the harvest moon?

[Nick DePaolo]

I know what.

[Steven Crowder]

I rest my case. Let's go back to Anna Navarro where she misquotes cities and makes up stories of events that didn't happen for from people who don't even exist. Maybe when she was talking about truth being heard for the first time on her show. Maybe she was referring to the time she spoke with Scott Jennings about genocide against Nigerian Christians. That would be good truth.

[Scott Jennings]

This is from the Associated Press. There have been a number of attacks. 20,000 deaths out of 11,000 attacks. But of those, 385 attacks were targeted against Christians resulting in 317 deaths. But in the same period there were 417 deaths among Muslims in 196 attacks.

[Nick DePaolo]

I don't think you can minimize this, Abby. No, there's been about 100,000, upwards of 100,000 since 2000.

[Scott Jennings]

Hold on a second.

[Nick DePaolo]

7,000 this year.

[Scott Jennings]

Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Scott. I am not minimized. Just because I'm putting facts on the table doesn't mean that I'm minimizing the deaths of anyone.

[Steven Crowder]

Sizing it, I am.

[Scott Jennings]

No, it's not sizing it. It's called information. Information is okay to consume. Like it's fine to say that it is both bad that Christians are being killed and also it is bad that Muslims are being killed.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, but who's also. Who's killing the Muslims and the Christians. Other Muslims. And let me tell you why this is so dangerous. Because people like Abby Phillip, right. They're the kind of people who, they're in charge of a lot of these institutions. When you see her think public school teachers, you have people out there think it's a talking point, right? Oh, Christians. What about the Crusades? What about the Crusades? We've made a bigger deal and vilified the Crusaders more than the campaign. The global domination or regional domination from Muslim empire that preceded it. Why don't we talk about the Islamic empires that enslaved people, that forced conversion. You only talk about the response where you have an entire generation of people who think the Crusades happened out of the blue. Think about that. That's the problem with it. And I think context matters. That, okay, both Christians and Muslims are dying. Sometimes it's disproportionate. Who be doing all the killing. Abby, I'm speaking in your vernacular. Maybe when she was trying to point the truth, she meant about the time. Maybe she was a friend at the time that her and Scott Jennings were discussing then former Vice President Biden ordering investigations of Donald Trump. That'd be a good truth.

[Scott Jennings]

Hold on, Scott, you just said something that's not correct. I'll try to slip it in there. You said at the order of the president. That is completely.

[Nick DePaolo]

He did not. He did not appoint the president.

[Scott Jennings]

That is completely false. That Joe Biden ordered the creation of someone to investigate Donald Trump. That did not happen.

[Steven Crowder]

What do you.

[Scott Jennings]

I mean, you just said that and it didn't. That didn't happen.

[Steven Crowder]

They, they had a special. They had a special prosecutor under the.

[Nick DePaolo]

Biden administration that, that, that went after Donald Trump did it.

[Scott Jennings]

Now, order of the president.

[Nick DePaolo]

All these things are in the executive branch.

[Steven Crowder]

This is my.

[Nick DePaolo]

And this is my argument.

[Scott Jennings]

I get the.

[Nick DePaolo]

It is. It is an executive branch and the.

[Steven Crowder]

President'S at the top of it.

[Scott Jennings]

No evidence. Evidence that Joe Biden ordered the investigation.

[Nick DePaolo]

He said on the record multiple times that Donald Trump should have been thrown.

[Steven Crowder]

In jail and said that Merrick Garland failed by.

[Nick DePaolo]

Okay, it was an auto pen.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, but what was, what level was the tide? Scott Jennings.

[Nick DePaolo]

I know it. Oh, my God.

[Steven Crowder]

And here's the thing. These are, you know, these could simply be. She's an Idiot. Right. As far as the misinformation, but do we also have examples of Abby Phillip proactively lying to you? Let me give you an example. We talked about snap, I believe last week or I did a change my mind. It's coming up. The lower income, for example obesity rate for non SNAP recipients for males is 30%. For low income males on SNAP it's 37. For low income females it's 40. For low income females on SNAP it's. Sorry, yeah, it's 40, it's 52. I misquoted and swapped. I said 57. Cuz it's 37 and 52. That's a mistake. You guys can admonish me, but can you guys understand that because you're using four different numbers that you kind of have to be brushed up on? Okay, Is that comparable? And I'm very. I think that we have a lot of grace for people who make mistakes. That's why we have an admonish button. Is that the same as Abby Philip Beacon of journalism proactively parroting the lie of very fine people on both sides. Here you go. Here's a quote from her. Sanders says the President has consistently and repeatedly condemned hatred and bigotry, which doesn't explain why he said there were quote, very fine people on both sides in Charlottesville where one side contained neo Nazis and white supremacists. So to believe that she's just an idiot on that one, you would have to believe that Abby Phillip did not watch the tape of Donald Trump saying, I'm not saying white supremacists and neo Nazis who should be condemned totally. But outside of that, she just started a play. There are very fine people on both sides. You think she didn't rewind it 20, 30 seconds or fast forward 20, 30 seconds? If that's the case. In other words, if she's not lying here, I believe she's lying. Then she can't be trusted to actually practice journalism. If you can't be bothered because there's nothing like perpetuating the original stereotype. If you're so lazy that you can't hit rewind 30 seconds, then you're of no value as a journalist. But you can make your case. Abby Phillip, you'd be welcome to come on this show and we'll be respectful as we do when we host everybody or Joy Reid. Fire alarm beeping be damned. That's okay. Take it with you.

[Nick DePaolo]

Really?

[Steven Crowder]

Anyone?

[Nick DePaolo]

We'll change the batteries.

[Steven Crowder]

People say I don't care about platforming. Great. Hey, I think Abby Phillip is an idiot. I don't think Abby Phillip will defend her stance. I don't think she will defend that lie. I don't think Joy Reid will. And so I don't think she'll show up. You don't hate the media enough. Just to be clear. Another litmus test. If they don't provide their sources publicly, their references, I'd be hesitant to trust them. That's just my opinion. All right, let's move on to Timothee Chalamet. People call him Himothy because he's him. Because. Well, because he's pretty based some of these things. So he touched on this subject. And of course, you have the shrieking from angry feminists where he talked about people who don't have kids and who brag about it and how that actually seems kind of bleak. Right. The reason that he's discussing this is because there's a trend on TikTok, which, by the way, is still Chinese owned. And one could argue they have a vested interest in suppressing American birth rates. It's just, you know, it's a conspiracy. Crazy. It's not like they had a policy there that backfired of one child and we're drowning little girls in a bathtub. But anyway, I'm just saying there's a connection there. And I want to tell you what you are about to watch. And we have gone through this with a fine tooth comb. Okay? None of this is satire. The left and their ilk have been pushing the message that you will be happier and more fulfilled without having a family. All of these I thought were parodies. They're real.

[Scott Jennings]

I don't need validation from a child.

[Steven Crowder]

That I'm a good person, that I have worth, that I have purpose, because I can find all that within myself.

[Nick DePaolo]

Not to brag, to be childless.

[Steven Crowder]

I mean, I Woke up at 10am on a Saturday, made coffee in silence.

[Nick DePaolo]

You know, and the only person screaming.

[Steven Crowder]

In my house was the espresso machine. You know, I scrolled for two hours.

[Nick DePaolo]

I ate leftover pizza for breakfast. No one judged me.

[Steven Crowder]

You know, you can't buy that kind of freedom.

[Scott Jennings]

So I'm child free by choice.

[Steven Crowder]

And everyone always says, like, what's your.

[Scott Jennings]

Purpose if you don't have kids?

[Steven Crowder]

What's your purpose? My purpose is getting my nails done.

[Scott Jennings]

Going shopping, treating myself.

[Steven Crowder]

Look at this new bag I just got from Goyard. If you don't have any children, remain child free. This message is for my young women.

[Scott Jennings]

My young women who want to do xyz, whatever it is too late.

[Steven Crowder]

I've never regretted not having kids.

[Nick DePaolo]

Well, you're gay.

[Steven Crowder]

Not once. And I'm 46 years old. So for 26 years people have been telling me that I would regret it. And I never have, not once. I've pivoted my career maybe like 3ish times in the last four years. You showed up late, you were fired. Right. If I had kids because I'd have.

[Nick DePaolo]

To worry about their long term stability.

[Steven Crowder]

And what's better for them. I have peace, I have freedom, I have amazing life. I go on adventures all the time. I get to spend all of my money on myself. Please do not be pressured by society.

[Scott Jennings]

To give birth to children in some way to, you know, carry on legacy.

[Nick DePaolo]

People love to say having kid gives.

[Steven Crowder]

You a life meaning. Cool. Sort of sleeping in and ordering food without sharing it. First off, I don't know if you know this. If you order food, you don't have to share it with children. You could, you could. There are things called kid menus. As a matter of fact, they're often more affordable than the standard meal. Or you could just do, a lot of people do and give them PB&J and order whatever you want. So you get purpose by sleeping in. And by the way, this is of course not addressing people who can't have children. I think that not everybody should have children. But we do have to acknowledge that as a society we need to be replacing ourselves. We need to have at least a base level birth rate that allows the country to function. And we do have to acknowledge that what is most purposeful and most important, it's the nuclear family, right? That doesn't need to be the ideal. Doesn't mean that we always hit it. But these people say don't give in to peer pressure. By the way, here comes some peer pressure. Let me make the case as to why you should not have children. And the best they can, the best they can do is, well, what's my purpose? Getting my nails done. Did you think about this before you uploaded the video? Like if you're trying, like, do you know how you come across? And this is the thing too. The left have done such a good job about this. They conflate pleasure with happiness and or purpose. It's not the same thing. Short term pleasure is not the same thing as happiness or purpose. And you can find purpose and happiness, of course, not just in children. But to deny that people find true happiness and purpose, or at least more happiness and purpose in raising a family and having a legacy than getting your nails done or eating Leftover pizza. They believe it. They believe it. And so Chalamet, in an interview, I believe, with Vogue, he said, bragging about not having kids and how much it afforded them to do other stuff like, holy shit. Oh, my God. Bleak. Not as bleak as a Saturday night at the Ocasio Cortez house. And then he went on discussing. He made some good points about the importance of. Of, again, the idea of family in this country. He said, I had a friend of mine in school, a girl named Grace, and her parents had the most beautiful, amazing marriage. This is not in context of being great, so this is a little tangential. But it showed me excellence can exist without being arduous. You don't have to be selfish to be great. No. And I know because I've worked with directors who are incredible and who are incredibly present in their family life. Even Dennis, who I'm working with right now, I'm just amazed by him. It was his birthday two days ago and one of his kids flew themselves out as a surprise. He's hugging him and he's weeping on set and people are taking videos. And Dennis is a total master of his craft and he's a great family man. So here's the thing you don't have. I'm not saying that you have to have kids. I'm not saying that you're. But the attacks come. Here's how you know what the left believes. If you say something that, I don't know, 15, 20 years ago was not even remotely controversial and they attack you, ooh, that means it's their underbelly. They're showing you what they really want. The Daily Mail ran this headline, timothee Chalamet risks angering His Legion of female Fans with snide comment about childless women. And they. They cited these posts in their. You know, their article because it's journalism. Just like Abby Phillip 2x posts. Here's one of the posts Timothee Chalamet can write off. Why is it his or anyone's business if someone has kids or not? I don't have or want kids. And I can assure you my life is not bleak. Only 172 followers. It's odd that Daily Mail would choose that to say, hey, his legion of female fans are turning on him. Here's another one. Timothy Chalamet is making fun of people who chose not to have kids while turning 30 next month with no kids. Getting a little behind, buddy. Seven followers and zero likes nobody.

[Nick DePaolo]

They both work at Vogue.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, it's almost like they're trying to turn female fans against him for holding an opinion that most men would find reasonable, agreeable throughout the history of this country. Yes.

[Nick DePaolo]

Also, I know you want to put him on a clock that women are on, but we don't have a clock.

[Steven Crowder]

We don't have a clock.

[Nick DePaolo]

Sorry.

[Steven Crowder]

None of us, every man in here could father as many kids as we want at any time we want. Think about that.

[Nick DePaolo]

It's true.

[Steven Crowder]

Abraham, Old Testament type shit. It's like a hundred now. Just to give you an idea. Hey, who's right, though? If they're just saying, look, this is the ideal. Making a case. Who's doing you a disservice? Who is doing you a service? Who is correct in saying this is probably something that'll be more fulfilling than what society is telling you to chase? Here's a new study. Well, here's from the new University of. Yeah, new University College London. They had a study. And then there's a new study I want to get to. Parenthood results in higher life satisfaction, fewer symptoms of psychological distress. Also an unsuspecting excuse to get into Chuck E. Cheese. Ha ha. And then those without children. This is new information again. Go check the references. So these are people who don't have children. Those who want children or are trying have the highest life satisfaction. Those who want children but maybe aren't actively trying have slightly less life satisfaction. And those who simply don't want children, they have the least amount of life satisfaction. That doesn't mean everybody. Not all, not all, not all, not all. But who is trying to inform you? And here when you talk about gatekeeping, just like Abby Phillip talking about, people haven't heard this truth. See Anna Navarro on cnn. These women are telling young women who do have a window, just come on. They're leading them astray. And they're also telling them, you can do anything you want. You have all the time in the world. You don't. It is different for women. And as a society, we need to at least avail the option to women to young women to have children. Because a lot of women want to. Most do. Not all, but many young women are under the false impression that they can live a life of second adolescence and then start maybe looking for a guy in their late twenties. And. And if they decide they want kids, it might be too late. You do need to know that your percentage of being able to goes down. Who's lying to young women? And what they do is they say the men who are expressing that who, by the way, don't have a biological window they say they're misogynist, they say they're sexist. Well, when you're 45, when you're 50 and you don't have kids and you didn't realize that you weren't going to be able to, and now you realize that maybe you wanted to ask yourself who was trying to let you know the truth. As to your available options. Having children is not easy. It is very difficult. It can be stressful. And time and time again when you look at the studies available, people say it's the most rewarding thing they've done in their life. That's just a fact. It doesn't mean everybody. But you would have to disregard any and all statistical data available to you to say, yeah, be like me, the old spinster with gray hair talking into a TikTok mic.

[Nick DePaolo]

Yeah, they are a scourge on our society. I'm gonna go a little bit further because that 50 year old passed the window for whatever reason. Cat lady saying be like me, be like me as she's popping Prozac to make sure she can get through the next day. Listen, that is not what society was built on that idea like go, go, just be a boss, go do this. That is, I'm sorry, you want to have options, that's fine. That's not what they're pitching. They're not pitching options.

[Steven Crowder]

They're not pitching, they're pitching.

[Nick DePaolo]

Run away from this because you can find satisfaction being selfish.

[Steven Crowder]

Right?

[Nick DePaolo]

That's exactly what you saw in all of those videos. My life is good because I'm selfish. Just insert selfish right there in their life. They don't have to worry about anybody else. They don't have to sacrifice. They don't have to put others needs that can't even say thank you most of the time above their own. That leads to a very bad society.

[Steven Crowder]

All kids are little narcissists. Yes, they only care about themselves. But that's okay, you love them anyway because hopefully if you do a good job, they turn into non narcissists where they actually think about other people. Let me put it this way.

[Nick DePaolo]

And it's beautiful when they do.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, because you see it. Let's say you don't know. Okay, let's just take. Let's say you're a young woman, you don't know if you want kids or not. Okay? That's totally reasonable. There are plenty of people like that out there. All right? You don't know if you want to. I'm going to advise this prescription. Focus on finding a man and putting yourself in the position where you could start a family first, prioritize that over career, over being a boss, babe, even over college. Prioritize that first because you can always go back to college like women used to do, where they would have families young and then they would go back to school and they would go to work once the kids were at school. If you don't know, prioritize that first so that you have all options available to you. If you follow the left's prescription and you don't know, prioritize school, career, sleeping in late, they're advising that you prioritize all of that and your window closes. So which one gives you available options? And then ask, who's open minded? Speaking of open minded, I'm open minded about a lot of things, but not this idea that we should continue snap. It's failed. We need to cut it. And that's why we have a change of mind. Coming up Monday on cutting all SNAP. Love the flow. Don't forget to join me Monday, November 17th, where we dive into SNAP EBT. And while there really is some great conversation, at the very least, hey, get rid of soda treats from snap. I would say soda, more health conscious things, but not to get away with it altogether. Well, to kind of compromise with snap. Well, so here's the thing. You can't compromise with SNAP because you can't cut soda. Right? There was a huge outcry of people going, that's a violation. Hey, you can't determine what these people. Everyone deserves treats. First off, not everyone deserves treats. Second, for me, it's pretty simple. You pay, you choose. I pay the taxpayer, I choose. It also absolutely goes off the rails, including an appearance by this, whatever Is this your furry name or your biological name? America first, love the flow. All right, so let's set the stage here because we have a SNAP banquet for you. This has nothing to do with my opinion, by the way, with the recent shutdown. I know it was a hot button issue, but I know that awareness has been raised. I think we need to cut snap, period. Food stamps. Okay. If we want to be a generous country. Sure. That's not what SNAP is. It's a failed program. It is designed to be abused. And as you know, SNAP benefits were one of the most contentious issues during the recent shutdown. Around 42 million Americans depend on the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, also known as snap, to feed themselves and their families. But the government shutdown, lasting more than 40 days and weeks of legal wrangling by the Trump administration to keep from Paying SNAP benefits are taking their toll. Donald Trump is the one who's politicizing the SNAP program. He's the first president in history to fully to suspend payments for snap. They showed that the Republicans don't actually believe their own BS when it comes to populism, when it comes to funding the future of the left.

[Nick DePaolo]

Republicans voted to fund SNAP 15 times. Democrats voted to defund it 15 times.

[Steven Crowder]

Never in the history of our country.

[Scott Jennings]

During a war or even a government.

[Steven Crowder]

Shutdown has SNAP recipients not received the benefits that they were due. That's why in the middle of a government shutdown and people losing SNAP. I'm going to spend $300 million on a ballroom because I am king. Well, that wasn't the taxpayer dollars, to be clear. I'll spend more time on all these snaps. Snap, SNAP stats. Well, we're going to talk about caviar. These SNAP stats on Monday. You'll see those and we'll make the references available. But let me just tell you, you may think of SNAP as, hey, people who are down on their luck and, and they need some temporary assistance, you know, until they can get back on their feet. Right? Cinderella man. That's not what it is, okay? It costs taxpayers anywhere from 100 to $130 billion a year. The number one purchase item, sugary soft drinks, $9 billion a year alone. That's three times what we give to Israel as foreign aid, which we should also cut. And SNAP recipients spend twice the amount per grocery trip than non SNAP recipients. Also, people on SNAP are more obese compared to other low income Americans who choose not to use SNAP. 60% of the recipients are able bodied. And over about a third of SNAP recipients have been receiving benefits for more than two years. We don't know how long after that in some of these studies, but at least two years. And so in preparing for this changed my mind. I went on my phone, you remember in black and white and the gray issues, there was a guy who said food deserts. I said it's not a thing. Everyone has a smartphone. And I thought, let me bring up my smartphone. I did. And I went to Amazon, Amazon prime and they have Amazon Fresh on there where there's either Amazon or Whole Foods. It's at SNAP EBT. And I saw that you get 50% off prime, including by the way, the video service that you get deliveries for $4.99 a month flat cost. And there are exclusive discounts for people using SNAP ebt. It's cheaper for those people. And then I thought, well, food deserts no, no. It can pretty much be shipped to every municipality in the poor rich. And then I said, well, let me look and see what's available on Snap. And then I was enraged for about three days straight. So it's time I decided to bring the feast to you. Everything you see can be purchased through using EBT in the SNAP program and delivered straight to your door. Everything you see could be delivered to Jacksonville, Mississippi. It's time for our Snap Feast. All right, so Snap Feast, let's bring out our emcee for the evening, actually, to show us what we have here, Mr. Josh Firestein. Very nice. Yes. Well, I have quite an arrangement. Hold on. We need to bring up his mic there a little bit. Billy. Yes.

[Nick DePaolo]

Please bring up my microphone. So.

[Steven Crowder]

All right. Very nice. You look very dapper.

[Nick DePaolo]

Hear me Buttle over here.

[Steven Crowder]

It's white gloves. I love how you. A gym towel. Very.

[Nick DePaolo]

Yes, yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, it's the ultimate decadence for louder. The crowded, of course. And these things are all available via Snap? Yes, that's correct. Every everything. What do we have?

[Nick DePaolo]

Well, we have first. I mean, we got to start with an appetizer. And no appetizer better than the Sar.

[Steven Crowder]

Nikolai.

[Nick DePaolo]

The. What grade is it? Estate grade.

[Steven Crowder]

It's white. I know.

[Nick DePaolo]

State grade.

[Steven Crowder]

So absurd.

[Nick DePaolo]

I almost forgot. Yes, Estate grade. White sturgeon caviar.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, that's 69.99 an ounce. Yes.

[Nick DePaolo]

I would open it, but I'm not.

[Steven Crowder]

That's actually to touch it. Caviar, I think, as I understand it, Mr. DePalo, you're a fan of caviar, right?

[Nick DePaolo]

Yeah. Russian hook, right?

[Steven Crowder]

Dated.

[Nick DePaolo]

Well, would you like me to open it for you, sir? No, I would not. Because I don't know how long that's been sitting under the lights. Not that long. And it just so happens we.

[Steven Crowder]

We have a nice pearl spoon give it to. In case he changes his mind.

[Nick DePaolo]

Memories.

[Steven Crowder]

Nick, go for it. Yes.

[Nick DePaolo]

You can think of Tatiana while you.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes. And can't wait to.

[Nick DePaolo]

On the plane.

[Steven Crowder]

And then later.

[Nick DePaolo]

Well, it's going to be delayed anyway. Anyway, don't worry.

[Steven Crowder]

And he could probably. You know, it'd probably be good to serve that on, you know what a rustic bakery. Sourdough bread. Oh, it's also available on Snap, right? Yes. Here. Yeah.

[Nick DePaolo]

I hope you don't mind, I touch it with my gloves.

[Steven Crowder]

That's okay if you touch it with the gloves. Here, have a cracker. Rustic bakery. No, sorry. Sourdough.

[Nick DePaolo]

Sourdough flatbread.

[Steven Crowder]

Sourdough flatbread. It's like a cracker, but you can just keep the. We don't need to bring up the overlays because we had it here. Yes. And now we. Here we have.

[Nick DePaolo]

If you'll look down here, we have Chilean sea bass.

[Steven Crowder]

Chilean sea bass.

[Nick DePaolo]

Delivered, it's priced at a measly 37.99 a pound.

[Steven Crowder]

Right. And that can be ordered through Snap and delivered to Jackson, Mississippi. That's right.

[Nick DePaolo]

I would open it for you. I don't want to remind Nick of.

[Steven Crowder]

His college dorm room. That's a nice steak.

[Nick DePaolo]

Oh, my God, yes.

[Steven Crowder]

But I did open it, actually. Is it good? Oh, man.

[Nick DePaolo]

Bernie Sanders would love it.

[Steven Crowder]

I did open this one. Oh, yes, that's right.

[Nick DePaolo]

It's a beef ribeye.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Nick DePaolo]

Prime. Prime beef ribeye.

[Steven Crowder]

34. Hold on a pound. Okay. 34.9. A boneless beef ribeye. There you go. That's unsafe. You know, the struggle knows no bounds. As far as those on Snap, they just need a little bit of help.

[Nick DePaolo]

To get back in a meat, though. No, you're not done.

[Steven Crowder]

No, we're not done.

[Nick DePaolo]

We have wild caught. This is not farm.

[Steven Crowder]

No, this is wild caught golf. Wild caught shrimp, Gulf white shrimp.

[Nick DePaolo]

This is the real deal.

[Steven Crowder]

And you're sure this is. This is ebt. Snap eligible? Yes.

[Nick DePaolo]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay.

[Nick DePaolo]

This is no Benihana. I'll throw it in your mouth, though.

[Steven Crowder]

No, I don't want you. Because I don't think it's cooked.

[Nick DePaolo]

No, it's not. But it's nice and frozen. This is delicious.

[Steven Crowder]

Go down easy. Well, you can. There you go. We spare no expense when we're using. You'll like this.

[Nick DePaolo]

We have handcrafted, criminally sliced prosciutto.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, that would go good with caviar.

[Nick DePaolo]

I said it right.

[Steven Crowder]

You want some prosciutto?

[Nick DePaolo]

Yeah. Can I get some more salty things over there?

[Steven Crowder]

Exactly. Here we go. Well, that's the beauty of Snap.

[Nick DePaolo]

Is okay. It's.

[Steven Crowder]

It's in the package. Yeah, you can save thank Uncle Sam from the bottom of your hypertension heart. What kind of star Nikolai brand estate grade white sturgeon caviar was ordered through Snap using ebt? There you go. You got it delivered right to your door.

[Nick DePaolo]

$70 an ounce.

[Steven Crowder]

70 an ounce?

[Nick DePaolo]

Are you kidding? It's like perfume.

[Steven Crowder]

I am not kidding. What else do we.

[Nick DePaolo]

I mean, while we're on the meats and saltiness, Nick, I thought maybe you would like to have some cheese.

[Steven Crowder]

Some cheese?

[Nick DePaolo]

Some. This is no regular government government cheese. This is government cheese of another variety.

[Steven Crowder]

I tell you, this is right.

[Nick DePaolo]

Right here. Oh, it's over here, we have some of this. It's a Matika Parmigiano. Reggiano.

[Steven Crowder]

Are you familiar with that one? Nick, I know you're.

[Nick DePaolo]

I. I'm not. I'm not that greasy. This is a 11.96. It's a good, solid piece of cheese.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. 20.99 window. 29.9 a pound.

[Nick DePaolo]

29.99.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, you got to help people get back on their feet.

[Nick DePaolo]

Jesus.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, you got to help people. Some people have had some tough breaks. They need $20.

[Nick DePaolo]

Here, Steven.

[Steven Crowder]

This here.

[Nick DePaolo]

This is Spanish cheese.

[Steven Crowder]

Spanish cheese. Goat cheese.

[Nick DePaolo]

It's called drunken goat cheese.

[Steven Crowder]

Drunken goat cheese soaked in wine. It's soaked in wine.

[Nick DePaolo]

Soaked in wine.

[Steven Crowder]

I want the person eating it. Yes. I want my SNAP recipients drunker. Yes.

[Nick DePaolo]

Get him drunk and get him driving.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, I lost my rack. That's okay.

[Nick DePaolo]

1.99 a pound.

[Steven Crowder]

That's really 21.99. Well, here's the thing. When you think snap, you think necessities, right? You don't necessarily think. Think Cap' n Crunch and Ghost Energy in Coca Cola or Aquapana water. But I tell you. I tell you what, it's important to get your. It's important to get your. Your greens in your greens.

[Nick DePaolo]

Yes, I have greens.

[Steven Crowder]

Don't you have that? You have some edible chamomile flowers? Yes, yes.

[Nick DePaolo]

For at night when you're trying to go to sleep.

[Steven Crowder]

Edible chamomile flowers. You know what? Bring that over here. I have trouble sleeping sometimes. Here we go. Edible chamomile flowers. Snack.

[Nick DePaolo]

You just munch on those.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Whatever happened to prison law Loaf?

[Nick DePaolo]

Prison loaf?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. For snap MREs. Yeah. How about that? How about no edible chamomile flowers?

[Nick DePaolo]

You could douse those flowers in some.

[Steven Crowder]

Truffle oil, some truffle oil, some truffle hot sauce.

[Nick DePaolo]

I noticed this prosciutt is at room temperature.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, that's because I think some people back there don't like you.

[Nick DePaolo]

So I wouldn't touch it. I have some ice for you. I already did. Too late. I'll be calling you from the hospital.

[Steven Crowder]

Would you like some ice? Yeah, give him some. Just toss it on the prosciutto. That's how it works.

[Nick DePaolo]

That's how they do it in New York, you know? Thank you, James.

[Steven Crowder]

White truffle hot sauce. Oh, wait. But I prefer the black truffle and cheese olive oil.

[Nick DePaolo]

You've heard of a mushroom? Well, this is fancier.

[Steven Crowder]

Right? And by the way, a lot of SNAP recipients, they forage for those truffles. Do they? That's what I understand. You can train them up and they.

[Nick DePaolo]

Sell them back and they get them back.

[Steven Crowder]

They do.

[Nick DePaolo]

It's a nice black truffle.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. It's a scheme.

[Nick DePaolo]

I didn't know Walmart was into foraging now. That's great.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm not even. Well, they're into every. They have their hands and everything. It's all about being your hands in this fig spread. Steven. Look at this. What?

[Nick DePaolo]

This fig spread.

[Steven Crowder]

Fig spread.

[Nick DePaolo]

Spread. You're used to a different kind of.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, fig spread.

[Nick DePaolo]

Come on. I tried that on my honeymoon.

[Steven Crowder]

It's fixed spread and that is 5.99 for 8.5 ounces. People need some. You know what? People need some help. Here's the thing, you guys, you're out there, you're white privilege. You just don't know how the other half lives.

[Nick DePaolo]

Yeah, I guess the we know.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Yeah. I get some fake spray.

[Nick DePaolo]

This is the other half.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Nick DePaolo]

Speaking, one of our favorite people in government.

[Steven Crowder]

That's right. Nancy Pelosi.

[Nick DePaolo]

This is her favorite ice cream.

[Steven Crowder]

That's right. Jenny's Gourmet Ice. Good.

[Nick DePaolo]

Stick a pint of it up her ass.

[Steven Crowder]

Is in the ice. Does it stay in the ice?

[Nick DePaolo]

Yeah, it came straight from the Arctic. That's how good it is, how expensive it is.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, hold on a second. We want to continue with this but for those of you I will have some after. But hold on. I just have to let people know we're gonna go to Rumble Prior Premium and obviously it's chat Thursday. We're going to continue with the Snap feast. You can click that. It's less expensive than these items on Snap. You can get it for 99amonth or 99 a year. You get 100 more show. You get a Friday show. You also get everything ad free. It's the only way we're able to do this. This because we didn't want to commit fraud. We didn't actually use EBT because none of us actually. But it could be ordered through EBT. So we paid like 700 something dollars for this which you can get all through snip. So please support us and we're. Before we go, let me just read a few things. So you have a little bit of a little bit of a teaser. You can also get vegan Matcha bars, Coop's Original Hot Fudge. That's gourmet, all natural, handcrafted, gluten free, 99 a pound. Tony's Chocolone Assorted chocolates.