Live Reaction: RFK Faces Senate Grilling After Employees Demand His Resignation

Summary

Louder with Crowder — Live Reaction: RFK Faces Senate Grilling After Employees Demand His Resignation

Date: September 4, 2025
Host: Steven Crowder
Episode Theme: Examining the Senate hearing where RFK Jr. faces tough questioning amid calls for his resignation by Health and Human Services (HHS) employees and broader concerns about public trust in health agencies. Commentary also includes sharp criticism of public health bureaucracies, a discussion about self-defense policies in Canada and the US, as well as irreverent humor and pop culture riffs.

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Episode Overview

Main Purpose
Steven Crowder and his guest commentators do a live breakdown and reaction to ongoing Senate hearings featuring RFK Jr., focusing on controversies in public health policy, institutional trust, vaccine mandates, and governmental overreach. The episode is interspersed with characteristic Crowder humor, mocking asides, and social commentary on issues like Canadian self-defense laws and the loss of personal freedoms.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. RFK Jr. Senate Hearing — Science vs. Politics

• Crowder highlights how RFK Jr. (“RFK”) is grilled in the Senate and frames it as another instance of an outsider being villainized by the establishment, likening his trajectory to Donald Trump’s:

  “You can see that this guy has turned. He realizes that these people aren’t his friends. It’s the same arc as Donald Trump.” (00:42)

• Science or Wish List?
  The panel repeatedly points out that Senators conflate “following the science” with pursuing progressive policy agendas.

  “Every question is political about the Affordable Care Act....Is it science that determined no cap on premiums and skyrocketing deductibles?...When they say science, what they really mean is their wish list.” (06:03–07:02)

• Replicability and Transparency
  The hosts defend RFK’s advocacy for more transparent vaccine data and robust replication of studies, framing his approach as pro-science, not anti-science.

  “He has a problem with mRNA technology...the resolution to that problem is not banning mRNA... It’s making the data publicly available, transparent, and replicating trials.” (07:09)

2. Senate Grilling & Institutional Inertia

• RFK’s message: The US population is getting sicker despite increasing health spending and bureaucracy.

  “We are fatter, sicker, and living shorter lives than our parents who didn’t have access to [modern medicine]. At what point do you go: ‘All of you are fired. None of this works.’” (10:19–11:12)

• Notable Moment: Senator calls out institutional stagnation —

  “You’ve been here 20, 25 years and Americans have not gotten healthier...You’re not doing anything to help the American people.” — Guest Commentator 1 (10:04)

3. Canadian Self-Defense Laws vs. US Gun Culture

• Crowder launches a scathing critique of Canadian policies instructing homeowners to “leave your key fob by the door” and not physically resist home invaders:

  “Canada, you are a conquered people and you are going to be a dead country...Get your act together.” (01:24, 15:49)

• He contrasts Canadian deference to criminals with Florida sheriffs who openly advocate for armed self-defense:

  “I encourage them to own guns. And if you try to break into their homes...I’m highly recommending they blow you back out of the house with your gun.” — Quoting a Florida sheriff (20:11)

• Hosts mock Canadian “compliance” as moral abdication:

  “Just complying is not defense. It’s like taking all 11 guys off the field...Just let them score.” — Guest Commentator 2 (19:18)

• Discussion on limits to governmental authority and moral obligation for self-protection.

4. Public Trust Crisis at HHS/CDC — Bureaucratic Backlash

• Over a thousand HHS employees call for RFK’s resignation, blaming him for rising antagonism and even violence toward public health officials.

  Crowder rebuts: “You don’t deserve our trust....Even people who want to wear a mask in private...don’t trust the CDC, the HHS.” (35:17)

• RFK Jr.’s Wall Street Journal op-ed calling for enhanced scientific rigor, more epidemiologists, and transparent data is read and discussed. The panel suggests these are common-sense reforms demonized by entrenched bureaucrats.

• Skepticism about bureaucratic expertise:

  “Only one in ten CDC employees are epidemiologists...Very few of them are actual practicing doctors with patients.” (38:47)

5. Broader Themes: Mandates, Right to Try, and Cronyism

• The hosts detail their “right to try” philosophy — consenting adults should be able to try experimental treatments, but not be forced by mandates or shielded corporations:

  “I think the right to try means you should have the right to try an mRNA injection...Sign that waiver...I’m vehemently against mandates.” (47:27)

• Critiques of public health bureaucrats favoring pharmaceutical companies, restricting real medical debate during COVID, and punishing dissent.

6. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

RFK Jr. on Public Health (49:29)

“76.4% of Americans now have a chronic disease. This is stunning. When my uncle was president, it was 11%...If we don't end this chronic disease, we are the sickest country in the world. That's why we have to fire people at CDC. They did not do their job good.”
— RFK Jr. (49:29–50:36)

Crowder on Public Health Policy (06:03)

“They say, ‘Hey, we're talking about the science. He's a danger to the scientific community.’ And then every question is political.”

On Institutional Trust (07:09)

“The mistrust just seems to be coming from these bureaucrats, right? Well, no. No. Do you think it's organic?” — Steven Crowder

Satirical Aside:

"Canada, you are a conquered people and you are going to be a dead country....Get your act together." (15:49)
“If you break into my house you are now mine...That’s free labor right there. Or I could do whatever I want to. I could do experiments.” — Guest Commentator 2 (30:31–30:49)

7. Media Coverage & Political Framing

• Guest Commentator 1 notes CNN’s predictable coverage, while Crowder positions alternative media (like Rumble) as bastions of uncensored speech and independent thought:

  “They're basically saying that, you know, they're going to rake Robert Kennedy over the coals or RFK Jr., if you want to call them that.” (59:18)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment | |------------|--------------------------------------------------| | 00:00 | Crowder opens, sets up live response to RFK hearing | | 03:57 | RFK Jr. Senate grilling begins; COVID/CDC resignations discussed | | 06:03 | Critique of “science” as political agenda | | 10:04 | Call-out of government inaction, comparison to education system failures | | 15:49 | Crowder’s criticism of Canada’s self-defense laws | | 19:18 | Panel mocks “just comply” self-defense advice | | 20:11 | Florida sheriffs advocate armed self-defense | | 31:41 | RFK/Senate shouting match, questions about myocarditis | | 35:17 | Crowder rebuts accusations toward RFK, reads op-ed points | | 49:29 | Standout RFK Jr. data: chronic disease and public health failures | | 56:39 | Government spending and personal responsibility; EBT spending discussion | | 59:08 | Closing: institutional decay and media framing |

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Additional Highlights & Irreverent Tangents

• Crowder and guests riff with dark humor about Somali women’s gyms, “Halalympic Training Center,” and “flag dancing” (13:00–15:31)
• Satirical takes on Canadian crime, biker wars, and national cowardice ("Michelle Obama this shit. You should be ashamed of that country.” — Crowder, 29:45)
• Brief discussion of US policy toward trans individuals and firearms, adding to the wider debate about self-defense and mental health (59:26)

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Tone and Style

The episode features Crowder’s signature blend of confrontational political commentary, sarcasm, cultural mockery, and a heavy dose of irreverent humor. While discussing public health policy and government accountability, the language is purposefully provocative, with a mix of satirical exaggeration and pointed argumentation.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode frames RFK Jr.’s Senate grilling as symptomatic of deep institutional rot in US public health agencies, accusing them of prioritizing power and politics over science and transparency. Crowder and crew use the hearing as a springboard to question the direction of Western democracies (especially Canada’s self-defense laws), sound the alarm about lost freedoms, and urge listeners to take both personal and political responsibility for their well-being and liberties.

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This summary focuses on main discussions, omitting ad reads and promotional content.

Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

Welcome to the lineup live here on Rumble, 9am Eastern to 7pm Eastern. And more to follow. Rumble owns a live YouTube's Dead and Rumble did it. We're very appreciative. Thank you, Vince. Viewers coming in, I just want to let you know I reserve the right to wipe everything that we've prepared for this program because RFK junior Right now is at a hearing. And my prediction is at some point in time, he's going to blow his lid. You can see that this guy has turned. He realizes that these people aren't his friends. It's the same arc as Donald Trump. Let me have you noticed that? And do you think that RFK Jr. Now is closer to being conservative than he was, say, before he was up for this job? Comment below. We're going to talk about a couple of other things. What we plan to do. A new axis of evil. Russia, China, North Korea. I know it seems silly and funny because they are silly and funny people. But now they're silly and funny people who have nukes seemingly, or ones that they can actually transport, ones that they can actually use effectively. Patrick Bet David, a friend of mine, let me put it to you this way. He was on Jubilee and he absolutely ransacked the guy. And the gals were Z's. Okay, but there's something there that people I think are catching onto but hasn't been necessarily articulated. It is people say Boomer. People say Gen Z, the entitlement. It was proven in real time. I think it did a really good job. Also, Canada is a country that needs to have its own revolution. Stephen, what are you saying? Yes, I am saying at some point armed revolution, when people are being permitted, are being, I guess, tacitly supported, if you want to use that term, to invade your house and you are being told as a citizen to leave your key fob by the door so that you can avoid violence in your own home. That's enough. It doesn't need to be communist China. It doesn't need to be Cuba. Canada, you are a conquered people and you are going to be a dead country. I know a lot of you watch from Canada. Get your act together. On with the show. Stephen and the masters of the Internet. I am crowder, Prince of YouTube, Defender of the secrets of Castle Mud Club. Fabulous secret powers were revealed to me the day I held my hand etched mug and said, by the power of Mud Club, I have the power. And I became Stephen, the most powerful conservative on YouTube. Together we defend Castle Mug Club from the evil forces of censorship. Stephen Click Rumble Premium and join now for 99 annually or $9.99 a month to get the entirely ad free experience and an ever expanding roster of content creators and free speech. All right, sorry. Glad to be with you. Captain Morgan. CEO Josh Firestein. Gerald just pointed to the CNN. Just the Chiron.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Yeah. So RFJ, RFK Jr. People at the CDC who oversaw the COVID response will be leaving. Oh, nice.

[Steven Crowder]

So nice.

[Guest Commentator 1]

People have been let go already and pushed out and have left. But more coming.

[Steven Crowder]

Can we see. Let's see what is going on right now. Again, this is happening live and I think it's pretty important. It could be one of those dates that we remember. I want to see what this broad.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

Is saying America will depend on because you don't want to depend on it. In his own surgeon general of the Trump administration said over 2 million lives were saved because the MRNA technology and you don't want to continue that. You don't want to continue that technology. So what country call them a Charlotte.

[Steven Crowder]

Did anyone else. Did I hear someone fact check me here. Did he say I don't want to continue with that technology or did he insinuate that he wants to replicate testing, that he wants the data to be made publicly available?

[Guest Commentator 1]

Let's see.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

Responding in having the aca.

[Guest Commentator 1]

She won't let him.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

And the the support for the ACA that is about to expire. Do you believe in doing something about that?

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

In terms of the advance of the enhanced premium tax credits?

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

Yes.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Well, the Democrats had two chances to make them permanent and they didn't.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

We're the ones who delivered it.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

So I'm just asking for a reason.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

Do you want to do something about this?

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Yes, I want to fix the system and that's what we're doing. Fixing systematically to make premiums lower. That's what President Trump do you think.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

So do you think the women on the steps of the Capitol were a hoax yesterday?

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

I don't know about any woman bringing up Epstein.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh my God.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

You were talking about Epstein. Do you think they were a hoax yesterday?

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Do I think they were?

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

Do you think they were. I love his response yesterday.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Perpetuating a hoax. Yeah, I have no idea what they were saying. This is the first I'm hearing about it.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

Your first that you're hearing about the women on the Capitol step saying that they believe that the I was firing people should be made public hearing that to every word you bitches have to say hoaxes you.

[Guest Commentator 1]

I love how he just wouldn't give.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

Her the line undermining the whole Health, by the way.

[Steven Crowder]

And I want to move on with this. Do you guys notice. And you can comment on this. Do you guys notice that they say, hey, we're talking about the science. He's a danger to the scientific community. And then every question is political. Every question is political about the Affordable Care Act. Well, hold on a second. That's the realm of science. Whether that was good policy. Is it science that determined no cap on premiums and skyrocketing deductibles? And this, of course, was the natural order of things when you required that private insurance companies accept everyone regardless of pre existing conditions with no other caveats. Is that science? I just want to understand this. You're talking about codify. I thought we were talking about how RFK Jr is dangerous to the scientific community. And can anyone tell me, look, he has opinions. You may not agree with him. I haven't seen him say that all vaccines are bad. Matter of fact, I think he had some critics because he was supporting. Was it the measles vaccine in Texas where he was saying people should immunize their children? He has a problem with MRNA technology and the resolution mandate. Yeah, the resolution to that problem is not banning mRNA, as far as I know. It's making the data publicly available, transparent, and replicating trials. Replicating what we have seen previously in studies, in trials. How is this a danger to the. Oh, you want to talk about the Affordable Care. Just understand when they say science, what they really mean is their wish list. Why do you oppose science? I want to abort up until nine months and including birth period. Why do you oppose science? I believe we should give puberty blockers to kids and force them to undergo sex change. Sorry. Not force them, groom them. Why do you disagree with science? The Affordable Care Act. What does any of this have to do with science?

[Guest Commentator 2]

What does her question, her last question have to do with Health and Human Services?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, her last question.

[Guest Commentator 2]

They're there to talk about the HHS secretary and she starts talking about Epstein victims. What is this guy talking about? Russia, Ukraine.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Well, he's going after him again.

[Steven Crowder]

All right, let's see.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

To see the data and talk about the data. You have had this job for eight.

[Steven Crowder]

Months and you don't know the data.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

About whether the vaccine. The problem is that they didn't have the data. The data by the Biden administration absolutely.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Does walk into that one.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Who is politicizing. You're saying the Biden administration politicized all the data? Go back to Cantwell. Just Trump Surgeon General they fired Dr. Crowd. They fired all the people who questioned the orthodoxy. They fired Dr. Gruber, Dr. Cow, Secretary.

[Steven Crowder]

Of Health and Human Services doesn't. No matter how many Americans died from.

[Guest Commentator 2]

COVID To be fair, nobody knows.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Tell us about gunshot wounds.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, tell us again about data. Secretary of Health and Human Services Data. Senator, how can you be that ignorant? Like, you know, I remember when we went to the hearing with you, I asked you about community health centers. You didn't know what role they play. I've been visiting. Glad you got to one think in April. I tell you what I hear on community health centers. They are terrified. With all due respect to my good friend, the chairman of the big office. Well, that depends. Hold on a second. These are community health centers that were tick tocking because their centers were empty during COVID while telling everyone that we had to lock the rest of us down. I hope they continue with this. This is why the left will continue to lose. This is not an issue with which the common American, the community of which he wants you to believe he is amongst that they're going to share common ground with him. People. Even if people out there. There are a few people who still wear masks alone in their own cars, by the way, usually Asian. We'll get to China in a little bit. But that is not the average American. Most Americans go, whoa, whoa, hold on a second. What happened? We need to. This is a case study, Covid, in how we made mistakes, how we were failed and how to avoid them going forward. They are starting off with the framework that we were right. We did this right. We saved all of these lives. And assuming that the majority of Americans agree with them. So we'll check back in with that. I'm sure they'll probably pull the highlights.

[Guest Commentator 1]

One thing, the first guy to go after him after the time was expired, he goes, can I respond to that? And he responded.

[Steven Crowder]

He goes, senator.

[Guest Commentator 1]

What? You've been here 20, 25 years and Americans have not gotten healthier like you haven't been. He just was like, I'm not. We chose our fighter well, right in this one. Because he's just like, screw you guys. I know you've been here forever. You're not doing anything to help the American people.

[Steven Crowder]

I am. We're too close to the forest to see the trees, right? It's just like education. Hey, we spent how many trillions of dollars depending on the metric you use? 2, $3 trillion. Department of Education test scores are worse. People have more information. Sorry. More access to more information at their fingertips. Than ever throughout human history. More ways, more methods, more choices in learning than ever. And they are less literate. They are dumber. We have more access to a variety of food, including healthy food that would never have been available to us in previous generations, and more ability to educate ourselves. More choice than ever. Better healthcare than ever. And we are fatter, sicker, and living shorter lives than our parents who didn't have access to it. At what point do you go? All of you are fired. None of this works department. They'll shriek, department of Education. What will we do without it? Not make people dumber, less literate, worse at math. What will we do without us? Without hhs, whatever, the cdc. Maybe we'll have people live longer lives and start actually getting healthier as opposed to the exact opposite. I don't know. Maybe your guess is as good as mine. I tell you where we don't have to guess the path we're on right now. I'm sorry, it's not up for discussion. You've had this job, you've done it your way for decades. People are fatter, sicker, dumber, dying younger. It's not working, period. I'll take a flyer at this point. By the way, it's a live show, weekdays, 11am Eastern and Friday. It's Saturday, September 26th. 27th. You can go see Josh Fierstein in Austin, Texas, at Cap City Comedy Club. Yeah, so that'll be.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Don't be scared, guys. I get a lot of messages when I'm in these liberal cities. Don't be scared.

[Steven Crowder]

Don't be scared, homie.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

All right?

[Guest Commentator 2]

It's not gonna be a big deal. You might get mugged. No big deal.

[Steven Crowder]

It happens. Wait.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Just comply. It's okay. Don't be scared. Little strippers walk around that same town. You'll be fine.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, will. They usually have the protection of a chimp? So, yeah, that's a leg up.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Speaking of which, hey, no pun intended.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's a Somali gym, and let me ask you this, ladies out there, would you train here?

[Guest Commentator 2]

It's good sweat management.

[Steven Crowder]

Are those burkas? Moisture wicking.

[Guest Commentator 1]

It's the new Nike burka.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Leave your goats outside.

[Steven Crowder]

It's the Halalympic Training Center.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Oh, come on.

[Guest Commentator 2]

It's their new gym for all Islamic women. It's called Kurds.

[Steven Crowder]

By the way, the Somali gym also offers rape preparedness sessions. And by that, I mean preparedness to rape in real time. Why is his butt so wet? That's not an exercise. That is not a real exercise.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Oh, Stephen, you taught Me this move.

[Steven Crowder]

That's an inside voice, by the way, with subtitles. It's even worse. It's a cultural issue.

[Guest Commentator 2]

That's good form, though.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Exclusively on the hip hinge. That's it.

[Guest Commentator 2]

You're kind of a form Nazi.

[Steven Crowder]

I am a form. That is good rate form.

[Guest Commentator 2]

That's also good love form.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Any of you, if it's consensual.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, the point is, it's not all that different from love making form. It's just the intent.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Right.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. You know about this. That's why you're straight. Also, they have not just cardio. Some serious weight training for the ladies there. Why wear a baseball cap on top of a burka?

[Guest Commentator 2]

Yeah, that's. That's strange.

[Steven Crowder]

It looks like when the invisible man is trying to be in disguise. So you don't know who's the invisible man? Like, you already have the bandages. You're completely covered. By the way, she actually is a well known Somali fitness influencer. So just so you know, this. Yeah. Touches all cultures. Oh, my God. Beautiful. I don't mind it.

[Guest Commentator 2]

The work is paid off.

[Steven Crowder]

No, they also have. They have some group classes. Here's one with flag dancing.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Well, at least they're in rhythm.

[Steven Crowder]

Lie with the flowy burka. It looks like there might be.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Junk in the trunk.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Oh, yeah, there's junk.

[Steven Crowder]

Actually, this is again, an influence. She's a famous hip hop artist over there in Somalia. That was a cardamom B with her hit single, Cap Circumcised Ass. So it's.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Get a scalpel and a cloth for the circumcised ass.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, geez. But, you know, hey, that's how they do it. I don't want to. All cultures are equal.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Sure.

[Guest Commentator 2]

98% in Somalia. Yeah, 98% of the women.

[Steven Crowder]

Really?

[Guest Commentator 2]

Yeah, I read that yesterday.

[Steven Crowder]

98%.

[Guest Commentator 2]

They said it's an estimated number.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, it's not really true, but once it.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Once the estimate is 98%.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, it's.

[Guest Commentator 2]

It's bad.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. The give or take is pretty much just. Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Take as low as 97.

[Steven Crowder]

It could be. It could be, but it's probably not. But it could be. But it's not. Speaking of cultures being equal. Canada. Look, look, let me just be really. This is my. It's a country where I was raised. To be clear. I was born in Detroit. I have tried to officially renounce my citizenship. I have done so on air. I renounce. I renounce. I renounce whatever I need to do. Canadian citizenship. Canada is a horrible country. I think there should be serious revolution from people there who are being subjugated by their government. I think everyone should leave. So I don't know what else to do. But Canada is awful. And I want to be clear here. You don't need to go to full fledged communism to get to levels of unacceptable oppression. To get to levels of oppression and violations of rights that necessitate some kind of revolution. Yes, armed. Now I'm not saying go and kill somebody specifically. I am saying that Canada has 10 years left. If they continue at this pace, they will cease to be a nation and rightfully so. Canadians, you need to find your backbone because this weekend and by the way, in a long line of horrible weekends, there was a man from Vaughan, Canada was murdered by home invaders searching for loot. But the fallout and the advice from the authorities in Canada is what is so distressing and may seem foreign to you Americans. But I want you, when you hear what they say here, I want you to go, oh, that's exactly what the Democrat party would do in the United States if they had unfettered power. It's time to go to know Canada. You've done once again so they always screw up. I just want to contrast, just to give you an idea here as to Canada versus a good example, Florida. There is an epidemic of Canadian, I don't want to say a crime epidemic, but there is a statistical increase. By the way, the epidemic in Canada is Canadian officials and those in positions of authority who serve to protect your God given rights instead stripping the citizens of God given rights telling people not to fight back against home invaders or violent criminals. As it stands, we know the best defense for most people is to comply. As you've just heard a number of safety recommendations that's not defense will allow for those that are victimizing members in the community to leave and not harm anyone. Everyone hear about the story in Lindsay. So this criminal that's wanted by the police breaks into this guy's house. This guy gives him a beating and this guy gets charged at 3am and the other guy gets charged but like something is broken. The possibility attacked in your home, leave your fobs at your front door because they're breaking into your home to steal your car. They don't want anything else.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

A lot of them that they're arresting.

[Steven Crowder]

Have guns on them. And they're not toy guns, they're real guns.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

They're loaded.

[Steven Crowder]

If we are going to rely on our community members to take matters into.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Their own hands to solve this problem.

[Steven Crowder]

We have all failed Our community.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

It's best to just let him finish.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, yeah. Oh. If people take it in their own hands, you failed the community. Sorry, Mr. Paul Kersey would like a word for a minute. Goodbye. Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

And just complying is not defense. It's like taking all 11 guys off the field when you're playing football and going like, all right, score a touchdown. That's the best defense. Just let them score.

[Steven Crowder]

Exactly. And this, this of course, enables criminal. Let's contrast that, and then I'll give you some of my opinions and some. Some supporting facts here. Let's contrast that with Florida sheriffs, by the way, the least likely sheriffs to actually abuse their power because they encourage you to be armed. Just like the president who encourages you to be armed is the least likely to stomp in your door and try and violate your rights. Why would someone who wants control encourage you to be armed? So that you can live autonomously from the oppressive thumb of government. So here are Florida sheriffs encouraging homeowners to do the right thing, and I do mean the right thing in defending themselves from home invaders.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Sorry, get you early.

[Steven Crowder]

The people of Polk county like guns. They have guns. I encourage them to own guns. And if you try to break into their homes, to steal, to set fires, I'm highly recommending they blow you back out of the house with your gun. Welcome to shoot them in Santa Rosa County. We prefer that you do, actually. We have a gun safety class we put on every Saturday, and if you take that, you'll shoot a lot better and hopefully you'll save taxpayers money. I praise Amen this husband for doing.

[Guest Commentator 1]

What he needed to do to protect.

[Steven Crowder]

His home and protect his family. And if you're going to be that brazen to come into my home once again, you should expect that you're going to be shot again. Those are the police least likely to abuse their authority because they can't. Encouraging you to be armed is a containment strategy. It's a containment strategy as to unchecked authority of the police, because now, guess what? In your house, you're the authority. It's an equalizer. Defund the police. I'll tell you. I guess I support that in places like Ohio with that female chief or sheriff saying people they don't know how to shoot their guns, considering that most police forces only fire 50 rounds a year. But I don't want to defund the police who are saying, hey, you can take out the trash yourself. Also, it is morally right. It is morally right. Can we stop with this idea that all Violence is equal. I would say this. You are actually absolving yourself of your moral duty if you don't deal with an intruder in your home violently. That is your duty if you choose to leave the fob. Also, can we roll that clip again? The end of that clip where they say, leave the fob at the front door because he makes some presumptions, and then I want to go to a flowchart. This is the issue with the left. A narrative shifts depending on where you started, and the left always starts it at the wrong point in time. Usually they choose the end point, which favors the criminal. Let's listen to what he said here. The possibility of being attacked in your home. Leave your fobs at your front door because they're breaking into your home to steal your car. They don't want anything else. Problem that they're arresting have guns on them, and they're not. They're real guns. Okay, that's enough. So he says they want your car, right? So just leave it there. Here's the problem. Many times they don't. Many times they don't just want your car. Have you heard of rapists, per chance? Have you heard of murderers, per chance? It's a resource predator versus a process predator. There are resource predators who just want your car, who just want some money. Then there are process predators who get a thrill off of harming you. Those people exist. We used to refer to them as evil. And so, you know, you could also have a resource predator who's on PCP and he just wants your car until he sees something that maybe rubs him the wrong way. And since he has that substance in his body that I can only assume makes him feel godlike, he decides that he wants to act like God and rob you of your life. Here, let's give you a flow chart here. Here's what I want to see. So the left they look at after the home invasion. That's where they start. Hey, we'll assume he just wants a key fob. So let's deal with it there. I believe it's your moral imperative to deal with it right at the top of that flowchart before the home invasion. Zoom out before the home invasion occurs. Mentally, set yourself to deal with that as swiftly, as violently as need be in order to protect your family. Because you don't know that person has put you in a position where you have to question your ability to survive. You have to question the potential safety of your family. Choose in advance. It's not going to happen on your watch. Because in your house, what happens to your family is on your watch. Don't start this off with, we assume they just want your keys and so give it to them also, I want my keys.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Yeah, that's my car. I paid for it. Yeah, now you don't get to just have it. And did you see the audience he was talking to at that little meeting? All old people.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

People that are probably on a fixed income. People that are probably driving a car that they've had for years that's paid off. They can't afford to buy a new car. Insurance takes months. I don't know how it works in Canada, but here it takes months. And you're not going to get the full value of your car. You're going to get Kelley Blue Book used condition value and it's nothing. You're not going to buy a new car. It can ruin someone's life, especially someone like that.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, also in Quebec, they used to check and see if your doors were unlocked in your car because you could be charged because you were incentivizing theft.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Oh, wow. Wait, how did the criminals get the guns? He said they have real guns.

[Steven Crowder]

I know. I don't know. It's a mystery.

[Guest Commentator 1]

No, no, no, no.

[Steven Crowder]

It's a mystery to all of us. We'll never find the answer.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Gun crime doesn't exist.

[Steven Crowder]

I know. No one can solve it.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Indiana. They got him from Indiana.

[Steven Crowder]

They got it from Indiana.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Same gun show loophole.

[Steven Crowder]

And so when you do cross the lake, what do you think a criminal is hearing when they hear the cops say that they're going.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Yeah, it's open season right now.

[Steven Crowder]

I know, yeah, I'll look by the door. By the way, it's open season not only to steal stuff, but you know who's really thrilled the process? Predators going, oh, they're gonna give me an easy inn. They think I just want their car. There's this good looking Latina who, this Venezuelan and my migrant who lives there, oh my gosh, she's not even gonna see it come. They're gonna leave the key fob by the door. If you allow that to happen, don't do it in some, some self convinced idea of nobility because you are doing the work of evil. We used to understand that we had duties and responsibilities. And if you are a man, if you have a family, even if you don't, by the way, if you're a citizen of supposedly a free country, it is a moral imperative, it is a requirement for you to foster an environment that discourages violent criminals, animals from acting that way. And instead we see the exact opposite. Let me give you some stats. Ontario wide criminal incidents are up 27%. That York Region where the homeowner was killed by that home invader, Home invasions have been up 116% in three years. 116% and rising. Yep, 116%. It favors one person. Just like catch and release, just like no cash bail, it favors one group of people. Criminals. In no way does it benefit the average citizen. You have changed the laws of humanity. It's unnatural to be forbidden from defending that which is yours. And by the. We're strong believers in it here. Not only do we carry, but we will fight to defend what is ours. For example, rumble, that's a platform. That's our. It's not YouTube. And you know what? The rest of you leftists, you can't have it. Download the Rumble app, follow me there. It's the best way to stay in touch. Also, so let me address something here. This idea that Canada, well, they banned guns. Canada is not the peaceful place that you think. Overall. I'm from Montreal. That's where I was raised. From 3 to 17 or 18 or so. We had three mass shootings in Montreal. There was Ecolepolitechnique was one. What the Concordia University massacre was one. Then Dawson College was just. I think only one person died. But I had friends in the school at that point in time, you would think there would be none. Also the Quebec biker war. I mean the mob in the United States could only wish to be so violent because from 94 to 2,260 people were killed that we know about. It's pretty tough to gauge because the police force was also corrupt on the payroll of the mob bikers there. It was so violent with biker gangs in Quebec that American biker gangs wouldn't patch them over because they didn't want the PR stain. Do you have any idea how bad you have to be for the banditos to say we don't want any part of that French Canadian business? There was a. And here's the. Let's say the overall crime is lower. It's not. I'll still say, you know what? I would take higher crime. I don't have to. But if I was forced with it, I would take a higher crime rate. If it meant that I had a fighting chance. If it meant that situations like we saw in 2020 in Canada where a gunman went on a 13 hour rampage shooting spree across Nova Scotia, murdering 22, guess what? I would take a slightly higher Crime rate. If I can be the one person who stopped. Stops him. Think of that. 13 hours. 22 people murdered over many different incidents. And no one could stop him. No one could stop him because the entire citizenry is disarmed and they've lost their fighting spirit. I'd rather live in a place where they can put out an APB on some prick like that. And every single Canadian is armed to the teeth ready to take care of business. Like the assassins and John Wick. Attention all Canadian. There's an APB out of an armed robber. Please arm yourselves accordingly. Eh.

[Guest Commentator 1]

It would have been a 13 minute shooting spree.

[Steven Crowder]

Canada is not a serious country. Canada. You can give advice to nobody on anything as it relates to the world stage. None whatsoever. You're an embarrassment. You should be ashamed every single. If you're a proud Canadian. It's reached the point where you gotta. Michelle Obama this shit. You should be ashamed of that country. It's not a real country. If you stand for this. You are not a real people whatsoever. And I don't have respect for anyone who sits there idly by at this point. You have your government enabling supporting criminals. My God. What happened to the men of Canada? Reach down between your legs. See if you find something. Sound off like you've got a pair. For God's sakes. It's embarrassing thing.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Protect what's yours.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

In fact I would argue if you break into my house you are now mine.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

You belong to me.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Guest Commentator 2]

That's a. That's free labor right there. Or I could do whatever I want to. I could do experiments.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Oh boy.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Yeah. I could do some fauci stuff.

[Steven Crowder]

It's a gorbles things.

[Guest Commentator 2]

I could do all kinds of stuff to you.

[Steven Crowder]

Man. Finders keepers. You are. You are signing up to be a skin suit.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Finders keepers. Losers weepers in my basement while I do things to you.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes. Oh my gosh. Yeah. It's very.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Yeah. I'm gonna learn about. I'm gonna learn about science and myself.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Put the key fob in the basket or it gets pissed on again.

[Steven Crowder]

Let me out. Eh?

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Or let me out.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh my gosh. Stupid. All right. I know we have. We're gonna talk about the axis of Evil. But I feel like we could do that tomorrow if we have to. Because this RFK thing.

[Guest Commentator 2]

They're still be evil tomorrow.

[Steven Crowder]

They're still going to be evil tomorrow.

[Guest Commentator 1]

And an axis.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Yeah. Do I have. Let me see. Do we have some updates here? Yeah. So I have a cl.

[Guest Commentator 1]

We have a clip we can play really quickly of RFK that they sent in. This is a bit of a shouting match back and forth. So you have it in there. So let's. Let's pull it up right now. We can react to it. You can characterize it any way you want.

[Steven Crowder]

I quoted them today. What I said was accurate.

[Guest Commentator 2]

What you said were lies.

[Guest Commentator 1]

You just.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Moving the type. Are you saying that the DMRNA vaccine has not never been associated with myocarditis or pericarditis? Saying I am simply. Is that what you're trying to tell us? I am simply trying to say that.

[Steven Crowder]

The people that you have put on that panel after firing the.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Sounds like Mr. Mackey.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, I'm asking the questions. Okay?

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

I'm asking questions.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm asking the questions.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Duty head.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay? Parents and schools and teachers all over the United States of America. I can't not hear it now. That's what this conversation is about.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Senator, chairman, senator. They deserve the truth. And that's what we're going to give them. For the first time in the history of that agency.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Back a minute ago.

[Steven Crowder]

Telling one of them.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Like, you're just. Just making stuff up.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Do we have that clip?

[Guest Commentator 1]

I can ask them, guys, if you can send that one in.

[Steven Crowder]

Would someone please think of the children? Okay. Do you mean the ones you didn't want to serve for two years? The ones you didn't want to serve for two years. Hey, did you get any contributions from the teachers union? I don't know. How much did you get? What was that number? What was that? I'm confused. What was that? Was. Somebody please think about people who are getting sick, okay? Do you mean like people who are forced to die alone? Do you mean like the mental health epidemic that we have now in young people, which we told you would take place? You mean like that? Do you mean like the myocarditis? Which, by the way. HE SIGHS I won't talk about myocarditis. Okay. I do. Asshole.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Well, we're trying to get at the facts here. He's like, no, no, no. I'm the one asking the questions. I can lead you. Then I can interrupt you. This is basically just a grilling. And Robert Kennedy is just saying, look, no, the American people are suffering and dying.

[Steven Crowder]

How?

[Guest Commentator 1]

Like, I don't know from where you get the balls to go sit on that committee as somebody who has been in that chamber of our government for decades.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 1]

And then say, because you're coming in and trying to change things, make things more transparent. Replicate studies, make sure that we at least acknowledge the failures of the past. You're the bad guy.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, let me. Actually, I think that's important because this is all sort of the catalyst for this, is that it's been taking place for a while, but yesterday the number reached more than a thousand current and former HHS employees signing a letter calling for RFK to resign. So they wrote this. I said, we, the undersigned write to you with grave concern for America's health and security. The violent Aug. 8 attack on CDC's headquarters in Atlanta was not random. The attacker fired hundreds of rounds. The attack came amid growing mistrust in public institutions driven by politicized rhetoric that has turned public health professionals from trusted experts into targets of villainization. I don't know, maybe you go out there, if you're official and public institutions, go out there with pentagrams on their chest while they sodomize their other scientific colleagues and use preferred pronouns and say that you're trying to erase transgenders while you encourage the transitioning of children, including giving them chemical castration drugs. You don't deserve our trust. Also, let's.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Was there a violent attack on the cdc?

[Guest Commentator 1]

There was a shooting at the building of the CDC in Atlanta, yeah. Oh, so they fired rounds. I don't know if anybody was hurt. There may have been some people that were injured, but I don't remember it being anything like that.

[Steven Crowder]

But let me give you the reason they're so upset, the reason they've been villainized. What they are opposing is that here's the RFK Junior Op ed in the Washington. I believe it's Wall Street Journal. Yeah, you guys have it. Wall Street Journal. He wrote a six point sort of plan as to how. Again, what's your endpoint? You're the one sowing mistrust. No, no, let's start with this. There's already mistrust. Poll after poll after poll after poll shows even the people who want to wear a mask in private, in their own country, trust the cdc, the hhs, just to be clear. So you. If you start from the right point, you go, okay, what have we done to lose this trust? Instead they go, it's your op ed, where you demand these six points. And the Wall Street Journal. Let me read you the six points and see if this is the reason, if this is the reason that people don't trust their institutions or if the reason that people may continue to mistrust them in growing numbers is because of the response. So these are the six points they responded to in protest to protect from Threats. This is written. Well, I guess it's written from rfk. So I'll have to detect and defeat infectious diseases through enhanced respiratory disease surveillance and a bio threat radar powered by cutting edge molecular tools. Oh, why must you villainize us, sir? To build infrastructure to strengthen global and domestic systems. To predict, track and respond to dangerous exposures and outbreaks. To modernize systems.

[Guest Commentator 1]

I didn't hear you. You used a different voice.

[Steven Crowder]

Global and domestic systems to predict, track and respond to dangerous exposures. Like Gerald's rhetoric.

[Guest Commentator 2]

You know, I think. I think Gerald does the better voice.

[Steven Crowder]

I think he does.

[Guest Commentator 1]

I don't.

[Steven Crowder]

To modernize systems, upgrade data laboratories and epidemiology to meet 21st century threats. Why must you villainize us? To invest in the workforce to rebuild the proud tradition of disease that don't ask for the voice. I'm not disease detective training Epidemiologists at home and abroad enhance scientific rigor. This is one that they're upset about. Apply gold standard science to every recommendation. Ensuring America leads the world in safe, effective vaccines and trusted guidance. Just to be clear, apply gold standard science. That means replication, which, by the way, has been sorely lacking. Doesn't mean that if you replicate it, we'll find out these drugs give you cancer. It means that we should start with what has been considered the gold standard. And he also included, finally, empowering states and communities. Return to the original mission of supporting state and local health departments on the front lines of outbreaks. You know, like the states that were maybe being punished if they decided not to lock down. If the states were maybe being punished because they weren't going along with the guidance that was destroying their states, their population, economically. Also, you could argue as far as health, not just mental health, physical health, because people developed immune deficiencies and they were more prone to other diseases. There have been tremendous health fallouts. We're not just talking about Bill Gates trying to put a microchip in your neck when you're not looking like Dark Angel. We're talking about actual ramifications that we all know to be true. So these are the six points. Their response is, you must go, sir. And then they blame RFK Jr for the mistrust in the institutions. Wow. Must be nice to never be accountable. Also, it talked about too much bureaucracy. I don't know if you know, only one in ten CDC employees are epidemiologists. One in ten. And very few of them are actual practicing doctors with patients. You know, like the doctors in California who were banned from social media, who talked about treating patients With I believe ivermectin maybe was hydroxychloroquine and certain antiviral treatments. Vitamin C. Right. Doctors who were actually treating hundreds of patients. They shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion. It should be the 9 out of 10 CDC employees who are not epidemiologists and not seeing patients. Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 1]

By the way, that. That they were attacking those doctors when getting on a ventilator was almost guaranteed if you had a severe case and it was a death sentence.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Basically at that point.

[Steven Crowder]

Right. Don't.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Don't try anything at all outside of the norm.

[Steven Crowder]

So let me.

[Guest Commentator 2]

I'm not asking for myself. I'm asking for the. For the lesser educated folks in chat. Maybe, but what is an epidemiologist?

[Guest Commentator 1]

Epidemiology?

[Guest Commentator 2]

No, I don't. I don't know.

[Steven Crowder]

What.

[Guest Commentator 2]

I don't know exactly.

[Steven Crowder]

Someone that studies infectious diseases.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Okay.

[Steven Crowder]

Somebody who studies the mutation, transmission, the spreading. They're in and they just sort of apply it sometimes as a catch all where they're held out as an authority when they may not necessarily be an authority. An epidemiologist may not know how to treat someone who is a patient under the care of an actual doctor, a general practitioner. Those people existed. They were actually using what they were observing as effective treatments. And they were shut down and they were silenced. So let me ask you this. The mistrust just seems to be coming from these bureaucrats, Right? Well, no. No. Do you think it's organic? When Now. You see a bunch of protesters out there, including one protester. It's the clip. RFK protest. Accusing RFK Jr. Personally of killing millions of people.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Drug prices, prior authorization, information blocking. The committee will come to order Wheeler.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Out of the bureaucrats.

[Steven Crowder]

I.

[Guest Commentator 1]

You can remove that one.

[Steven Crowder]

Who has he killed? I apologize to you for that outburst, Secretary Kennedy. I would notify everyone else in the audience.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Comments from the audiences, our audience are inappropriate. If there are any further disruptions, the.

[Steven Crowder]

Committee will recess until the police can restore order. Who is he? They're treating him like he's RFK Joker. They're treating him like he is a villain. Actually, we're. Today we're gonna have trials. Well, yeah, that's what we should do. Outburst will only be accepted from sitting board members. That's right. Okay. All the senators up here can have an outburst. Okay. You gotta trust the authorities. Okay. CNN right now they're showing some other talking heads. But I bet you if we go to C span, we can still go back to the live hearing.

[Guest Commentator 1]

He's. He's done. The hearing's done.

[Steven Crowder]

The hearing is done.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Okay. So you guys can bring us the.

[Guest Commentator 1]

There's something so funny about someone being wheeled out. I know.

[Guest Commentator 2]

And shouting stuff over their shoulder.

[Guest Commentator 1]

It's been excellent. You gotta lock the wheels or something. I don't know if it's harder to stay and be effective. They could just wheel you out. Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, how much you want to bet that that's a lady who's an activist? Probably some genderqueer activist who's disabled, and you are. You are not listening to the voices of the disabled community. Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Do we want to hear what these hags on CNN have to say at all?

[Steven Crowder]

No, we'll go to them after. So here's a senator from Oregon. This is an. Hey, can we bring up the intellectual fallacy. Alert, alert. Can we bring that up? Because this is what the left does. It's all they have. It's the appeal to authority fallacy. I haven't even seen this clip yet, but I can guess. I can bet I have a description here. They're shaming RFK because all the experts. All the experts, by the way, who determined COVID policy, all the experts at who. Who don't acknowledge that Taiwan even exists, all the experts who said it came from a bat sandwich in a wet market, all the. All those experts are against rfk. So there. I don't.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

I don't get letters from thousands of people who are not political saying that.

[Steven Crowder]

This set of changes is going to.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Damage American health care and particularly these health care agencies.

[Guest Commentator 1]

For decades, the picture of health.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

I don't get any letters.

[Guest Commentator 2]

The health care industry is struggling right now.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Maybe you're listening to a selective group of people.

[Guest Commentator 2]

You get. You get me?

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Yeah, And I will.

[Steven Crowder]

Fine.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

I. I will tell you what, Senator. I will put my mailbag against your mailbag any day of the week.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Is that his ball sack? My mailbag?

[Steven Crowder]

No, basically. Hey, Paul. Bag.

[Guest Commentator 1]

He was making. And this is the guy, he went on afterwards to say, you've been in that seat, what, 20, 25 years, and you haven't done anything. So basically he was trying to make the point, like, all these experts are writing in letters. They're telling us that you're wrong. All the doctors. He goes, I got tons of doctors telling me I'm doing the right thing. And he's like, well, I don't want to. He's like, well, maybe you're listening to the wrong guys. How about we compare mailbags? How about you look at the people that I have telling me it just negates his point completely. It's like we're not polling the audience.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Yeah, he should have pulled that bag out. That bag of mail should have pulled the letter out and says, dear Cigarette Santa.

[Steven Crowder]

Should have been like, miracle three, four, six Street. All these letters to RFK class.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

That's right.

[Steven Crowder]

That's my ball bag. Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

The senator's getting letters from bureaucrats while he's getting letters from actual doctors. Right.

[Steven Crowder]

Also parents. And here's the other thing, too. Let's assume that they're right for a second. Let's assume that. Lockdown. Let's walk through it. Lockdowns are right. Shutting down schools for over a year. Of course. Shutting down business, rent forgiveness, student loan forgiveness. All of these policies, believing that it didn't come from a lab, but it came from a wet market. Vaccinating young children, forcing it on pregnant women. All of these. Let's assume that they're right. Okay? So on one side, you have the left, you have these people and the bureaucrats, the experts they're referring to. On the other side, you do have plenty of experts, you know, practicing doctors and people who are sounding the alarm at this point in time. But even if you look at these two and you say, I think they're more right, and I'm really glad that I took 18 mRNA injections, five, you just say, okay, what's the prescribed solution? One side was allow states to do what they believe is appropriate for their state, don't mandate a vaccine, allow the teachers and the people who want to go back to school to go back to school. And the other side was saying, no, it's exclusively our way and the advice of only our experts, or else. So even if you agree with their science, likely because you haven't looked into it, well, who. Who is actively harming you more? I mean, what does it harm you for someone to say, hey, it's experimental? Because everything right now is experimental. This is a novel virus. We're hearing good things about hydroxychloroquine. Oh, turns out ivermectin is better. We're hearing good things about perhaps using these supplements of NAD and zinc in corcitin so that it can. We're seeing some good things with patients. These are protective measures that maybe you can take. For crying out loud. During COVID you had people being banned because there were medical experts online saying, I am not saying that this is a cure at all, but of course your overall fitness is going to make you far more robust to withstanding these diseases. So exercise, eat. Right. Right. If you could lose some weight, that may actually. That may actually have more of an effect than even being vaccinated. If you could get your BMI in a healthy range. Those people were banned. That's assuming the same level of expertise. By the way, the one group of experts who said our way or the highway were also saying that you should transition your kids. No, sorry. That you're not allowed to prevent your children from transitioning. So only one side, if you agree with them more, as far as a starting off point, only one side was offering exclusively a corrosive solution. Doesn't that count for something?

[Guest Commentator 1]

How did we even get here too? This is the group of people. You know the Dallas Buyers Club movie.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 1]

When people were dying because of this. Of aids and it was just, it was a death sentence.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Guest Commentator 1]

They were willing to go anywhere to try anything. They make movies about that now, like tearjerker movies. To say, see. See how the medical community denied people any kind of treatment. They would sign a form saying, I don't care how experimental it is, I'm gonna die.

[Steven Crowder]

Called the right to try.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Exactly. Exactly the right to try. And now when it comes around on Covid, you have no right to try. People are still dying. I'm not kidding. People forget that when somebody went on a ventilator, we all go, oh, no. Because that was a death sentence. They did not know how to fix you. And ventilator was like, last try. They were running out of them.

[Steven Crowder]

And by the way, I think the right to try means you should have the right to try an MRNA injection. You should. Shouldn't be an $80 billion contract with no liability whatsoever at large for companies like Pfizer and Moder. But I think if you want to, you should have the right to try. Sign that waiver and say, I will deal with whatever ramifications come my way. I think if you have a terminal illness, I think you should be able to try any drug you want, regardless of whether it causes a tummy ache. And I'm vehemently against mandates. The left doesn't believe you have the right to try. And they're pro mandate. That's what the right to try is. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have the right to try these things, but they are. They are. And also it's anti right to try. You know why? Because you know what happens when you have these giant, effectively no bid government contracts to three pharmaceutical companies. You have less things to try because there's less competition. The incentive is A race to get the government contract. We see that all the time. It's a race to create a business model for a bailout. Right to try means everyone can bring these things to market. Now. It's not going to be considered approved, it's not going to be considered effective until it's gone through trials that are replicated. That's what RFK Jr. That's what I believe. But if you're in a tight spot and it's showing promise and it hasn't finished that process, if you are willing to waive that liability, you can try it. We're not forcing you to try something experimental and forcing you to waive liability as they did en masse with these companies. Do you guys see it? One side always inches closer to taking away your freedoms. Even if you agree with their LGBTQ AIP MRNA science. How much do you value their science versus your rights? Because that's the decision you have to make. That's what's at stake here. RFK Jr. As I also understand it unloaded on just that. Those health bureaucrats. He's not a fan. Clip RFK cdc. Go.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Senator. You know, this morning I got the latest numbers from CDC that 76.4% of Americans now have a chronic disease. This is stunning. When my uncle was president was 11%. 1950 it was 3%. A is 76.4%. 8 out of 10 of our kids cannot qualify for military service. This is a national security issue. When my uncle was president, we spent zero on chronic disease. Today we spent $1.3 trillion. It's the biggest cause. It's increasing. And all of the arguments that Republicans, Democrats have about single payer Obamacare or the various ways of allocate the health dollars, they're all like rearranging deck chairs on the Titan. If we don't end this chronic disease, we are the sickest country in the world. That's why we have to fire people at cdc. They did not do their job good. This was their job to keep us healthy.

[Steven Crowder]

Thank you.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

And I need to fire some of those people to make sure this doesn't happen.

[Steven Crowder]

Thank you, Mr. Secretary.

[Guest Commentator 1]

I love it.

[Steven Crowder]

By the way, can we, can we.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Pull that last bit of that clip up? Just the last bit. Who's the girl looking at? Because she's making eyes at somebody.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, I don't see. Let me see there. Can you rewind it? I missed.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

That's why we have to fire people.

[Guest Commentator 1]

She's looking after his left somewhere somebody.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Just like your job to keep us healthy. Thank you look at that. Oh, make sure this doesn't happen again.

[Steven Crowder]

It's like one of those. It's one of those posters that follows you. Yes.

[Guest Commentator 2]

I was just thinking like a Scooby Doo painting.

[Steven Crowder]

She's like, it's time for my injection.

[Guest Commentator 2]

I think she was just looking at the.

[Steven Crowder]

I think she heard someone act like a man and got tingly. That's what I think just happened. Okay.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

All right.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm going to fire some of them, too. Good. Yeah, he good.

[Guest Commentator 1]

He was walking on his way over and Sar, he's like, you sit off to my right on camera.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

She's going to go home and punch her man in the throat tonight. Talk like rfk.

[Steven Crowder]

Lot of vibrato in that voice.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Oh, my goodness.

[Steven Crowder]

Fifty shades of rfk. So we have.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Have one more clip if you want to do that. We can do PVD either right now or we can do it later.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I had. I had one. Well, let me see the other clip. But I had one point to make on this.

[Guest Commentator 1]

It's the one about making. Making stuff up. Like you're just making stuff up.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, here's the thing. They will say. I will say. The left will try and say, well, that's because of increased. Of more efficient testing. Okay. That doesn't account for the shorter lifespan.

[Guest Commentator 2]

And shrinking lifespan, by the way. Yeah, I've been thinking about that a lot lately. Been thinking about the lifespan. I've been thinking about the replacement rate.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Guest Commentator 2]

It's been keeping me up.

[Steven Crowder]

It doesn't account for the obesity rates using, if anything, more effective metrics are pretty, pretty stable metrics. If we're just going by bmi, it doesn't explain that people. Your job is to keep people. Well, I wouldn't say keep people healthy. Your job is to ensure that people have the right access to the correct information so that they can make informed decisions and be healthy. People are less healthy, healthy, they're dying younger and they're having lower quality of life outcomes. As far as health parameters, what metric are you guys using to say you're good at your job? Can anyone answer that? Can anyone? I know we do have some people who are kind of coming in, into the fold here. Anyone here who still has trust in these institutions? Can anyone answer me, what metric are you using to suggest that the CDC or HHS is good at their job? I honestly, because I try and steel, man, the arguments of the left. I guess some people might say there would have been far more lives lost if they didn't during COVID Okay. But I'm talking about at large, people are less healthy, sicker, dumber, objectively, regardless of testing. We're not just talking about testing. I get it. They catch diseases earlier. That's understandable. Doesn't account for life expectancy, doesn't account for obesity. What metric? Let's run that next clip that you were discussing. Right there. I'm seeing this for the first time.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

So when have you produced the data that you relied on and that this FDA relied on to change those parameters? You did it behind the data stores. Now, parents who decide that they do want their children to have.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

I'm not making stuff up.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

You know, sometimes when you make an accusation, it's kind of a confession, Mr. Kennedy. So let's just.

[Steven Crowder]

That's the I am rubber. You are glued to Senator Warner's point.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

To the parents who are concerned all around the country, to people who want to get the COVID vaccine this fall, even if they're under 65, because the boosters have worked. There's been much less serious disease. People do not have the same level of threat and risk from COVID that they used to because of these vaccines. People who want to exercise their freedom of choice are being denied that.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

Everybody.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

Because you are citing data that you won't produce to the public.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 2]

You're making things up to scare people and it's a lie.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

With respect, but I do not think I'm the one making the chair.

[Steven Crowder]

I will tell you where she's lying. Okay. The reason that people are resigning is because he is pushing for the data to be public and he is not barring anyone from getting the vaccine. None of those claims are true whatsoever. You want to get it? Okay, fine. Is she talking about. What she means is, does she mean that if you don't throw a never ending supply of public funding at it, that you're preventing people from getting the vaccine? That's usually what they mean. It's usually the wish list argument is how I refer to it. And then saying you're doing this behind closed doors. No, his way. Whole push is so that things don't happen behind closed doors. That's why you have this petition. That's why the people who've done it behind closed doors no longer want him. They're trying to get him fired.

[Guest Commentator 2]

It's almost like they don't want the information that they worked on to be out there.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Yeah, that's crazy, by the way.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Just don't expose me.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, they may have just been taking a break.

[Guest Commentator 1]

I think they're actually back now, it looked like they were adjourning, but maybe they just.

[Steven Crowder]

Thanks for cutting me off at the knees.

[Guest Commentator 1]

I just told you, you know, my, you know, thing.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, let's see. It's Blackburn right now, so it'll probably be more friendly.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Yeah.

[Senator or Hearing Participant 1]

Appreciate your comment to Senator Warner on the area wage index. He and I have worked on fixing that and we appreciate your attention. I am delighted to know that you're going to end the revolving door in the conflicts of interest. I have found it so unseemly that people who work with a pharmaceutical or with a big food company then go back over into CDC or NIH or FDA and then they're signing off on regulation for.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Since this is friendly, I have one question. Since these people care so much about public health, right. And they believe in never ending supply of government funds, there's never been a single program they want to cut. Unless it's something involving the military. Because they want you less safe. Okay, maybe the police, too, but that's more local. All right. You care about people's health. Yeah. Why would you want soda? Soda and candy on snap.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Mental health. Yeah, duh.

[Steven Crowder]

Do you think that someone who routine. Who spends or uses all their SNAP resources EBT on soda and candy, as opposed to what I propose, which is necessities. You know, produce, milk, meat. Do you think they are more or less likely to develop chronic diseases? Could we find some common ground there? Since the government's providing it, could we. Could we just ensure that? Since it's the one area where we will control. I don't want to infringe on people's choice, but since it is funded by the government, the taxpayer. Hey, how about we ensure that they're making healthy decisions? Wait, hold on a sec. Okay. No. Hey, you're all about democracy. Let's put it to a vote. The taxpayers who fund it, the ones who contribute. You can't have the people taking vote. Toss that to a democratic vote. The people paying the taxes, if they believe that we should be providing unhealthy foods to people on SNAP or ebt. There's nothing about these people on the left that cares about your freedom or your health. There's one side arguing for people to be healthier, to be more informed in making their decisions, to be able to defend themselves, to be able to make their own financial decisions. Do not say that both sides are the same. There are bad people on the right. Sure. But if it's only a sliver, that is the only portion left of representatives in United States government. And all the bureaucratic organizations they're in advocating for Americans to be able to make more informed decisions, to be able to make more decisions, to be healthier and to be able to protect themselves and their family. In other words, if they had their way, you would be more independent and free to be healthier, sicker, stronger, defend your home or be a victim. But it's up to you. If you believe the one side, you would be required to be dependent on them for everything. And it only gets worse. Dependent on the people who've objectively created this scenario with worse health outcomes than 40 years ago. How did we get there? Think about it. That includes the generations of people who came back from Vietnam who were inhaling Agent Orange. Yeah, think about that.

[Guest Commentator 1]

That's insane.

[Steven Crowder]

All right. They're going, continuing with the.

[Guest Commentator 1]

She's continuing right now. We'll probably get more fired up stuff. I mean, they're. Again, CNN is covering this in a.

[Steven Crowder]

Very predictable way, of course.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Right. They're basically saying that, you know, they're going to rake Robert Kennedy over the Kohl's or RFK Jr. If you want to call them that. But here, listen, here's some positive news.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Before we go. The Trump DOJ deliberates over gun ban for transgenders. This according to the Daily Wire. So individuals within the DOJ are reviewing ways to ensure that mentally ill individuals suffering from. From gender dysphoria are unable to obtain firearms while they. While they are unstable and unwell.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, this is what I like.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Interesting conversation about the gun part, but here's what I like about that. They're at least calling it what it is.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Mentally ill people with gender dysphoria. Please keep saying that over and over and over on a loop.

[Guest Commentator 2]

This is going to create an argument from the left about. No, not about rifle. I was gonna say about the right to self defense.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

And I think that's a healthy argument to have.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Because, you know, I think we need to reclassify it as, as mental disorder again.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

And then that would prevent people from buying certain firearms. But they're gonna make that argument that. Oh, now you're saying that trans people, they don't deserve to defend themselves. You want to raise trans people, they can't defend themselves. Oh, interesting point about defending yourself.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 1]

It's funny you should bring that.

[Steven Crowder]

Tell me again about red flag laws. Do you believe that someone who takes a Xanax should not be allowed. Okay. Are they in a statistical risk category of a 42% attempted suicide rate? No, that's Only paranoid schizophrenics and transgenders. Interesting. Hmm.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Keep talking.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Sounds like they're drafting a DSM 6.

[Guest Commentator 1]

Yeah. Yes, yes.

[Steven Crowder]

About time.

[Guest Commentator 2]

And then the left will say that doesn't count. We only go by the DSM 5.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, right, right, right. We only go by the DSM. It's all about the 5. It's all about five days, folks. Everybody now as it's about five. Speaking of a mental health epidemic. And if you are not a member of Rumble Premium, that's the only reason we're allowed to do this. That's the only reason we're able to is your membership, your support. Longest running show online, a concert, right leaning or comedy show. I mean, at this point, with the late night guys all being gone over 10 years now, which is ancient really, at this point in online, like if you have a show for two years, so it's because of you we have been cancel proof. Here's to another 10 years. $99 a year. You get everything ad free. You get 100% more show. And all of the premium content that of course was created by UOG's Mug Club is what allows the free content to still exist and be completely uncensored. And I don't mean uncensored like putting in the title while censoring words. I mean actually uncensored because we have this on Rumble. But speaking of a mental health. Oh, is it Elizabeth Warren David thing today?

[Guest Commentator 1]

Hey, we can go. We can go to Rumble Premium and just stay. We not do the little thing if you want.

[Steven Crowder]

What do you mean?

[Guest Commentator 1]

We can go to Rumble Premium right now and just stay live for our Rumble Premium audience. We don't have to do a little buffer.

[Steven Crowder]

What are you talking about? Just.

[Guest Commentator 2]

Well, now you've created a buffer.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, let's go. Just. Just hit it. Rumble Premium just really short. Elizabeth War.