Minnesota Catholic School Shooting Update - Shooter & Manifesto

Summary

Louder with Crowder Podcast Summary

Episode: Minnesota Catholic School Shooting Update - Shooter & Manifesto
Date: August 27, 2025
Host: Steven Crowder
Theme: Timely analysis and discussion of breaking news regarding the Minneapolis Catholic school shooting, including deep dives into the identity, motivations, and manifesto of the alleged shooter, critique of media coverage, and broader implications for gun control, mental health, and societal trends.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the breaking developments of the Minnesota Catholic school shooting. Host Steven Crowder and his crew discuss the suspected shooter’s background, motives, and disturbing online presence—including a manifesto and a now-deleted YouTube account—as well as the immediate mainstream media response, or lack thereof. The crew examines the wider context of gun control debates, gender identity politics, the role of fathers and faith in society, and the implications of progressive values on mental health and violence.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Breaking Info on the Shooter and Social Media Footprint

• The team claims to have received and verified tips about the shooter’s online presence before legacy media outlets reported on it ([00:01-02:25]).
• A deleted YouTube channel included videos of weapons, a possible manifesto, My Little Pony, LGBTQ symbols, anti-Semitic imagery ("gas the Jews"), and violent threats.
  • “There was...an LGBTQ rainbow flag...My Little Pony. Also see...gas the Jews.” — Steven Crowder [00:54]
• The shooter left sketches, possible plans of the church, and disturbing writings, some in faux-Cyrillic meant to mislead ([01:59–04:45]).
• Videos showed the shooter’s firearms, ammunition, and booby traps, such as a smoke bomb ([09:33–11:31]).
• Team notes specific phrases and imagery (“kill Pedos”, upside-down cross, “defend equality” sticker, and references to hate toward various groups).

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2. Media Coverage Critique and Political Framing

• Crowder alleges that mainstream media (CNN, NBC, etc.) avoided reporting on the shooter’s identity and motivations because it didn’t fit the favored “right-wing extremist” narrative ([02:25–04:45], [15:39–16:10], [47:26–49:40]).
  • "[Legacy media] jumped at the opportunity much more quickly...if they think they can label it right wing extremists...If [they see a rainbow flag], they won’t touch it...” — Crowder [03:26]
• Suggests that online “click business” distorts facts, and stresses their team’s priority is accuracy and transparency ([04:45], [13:38], [17:39–19:26]).
• Criticizes coverage delays and selection biases, noting that if the shooter were a right-winger or wore a MAGA hat, information would spread much faster ([103:00]).
• “How much you want to bet that we would know right now if this prick was a registered Republican?” — Crowder [102:59]

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3. Identification and Background of Suspect

• The shooter is identified as Robin Westman, previously Robert Westman, who legally changed their name in 2020—transitioned with a mother’s approval ([14:54–17:39], [22:15–23:39]).
  • “It looks like...reports are going around that this was Robert Westman that transitioned and legally had first name changed...” — Co-host [14:54]
• Team connects the mother’s name to a church staff/volunteer position, discusses “feminist” and “progressive” influences, and speculates on family dynamics ([23:45–27:54], [31:35–32:08]).
  • “A dad didn’t [sign the transition papers]...So if there’s a dad there or there’s no dad...if the dad is there, he’s not present—because the mom is the one involved with making a life-altering decision.” — Crowder [24:45]

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4. Manifesto Content and Mental Health Analysis

• The manifesto is read in detail. Themes: self-loathing, nihilism, desire for chaos and notoriety, planning to attack the school, hatred against humanity, and a longing for violence ([33:41–35:47]).
  • “I have to leave my mark on this world. I can’t let the world crush me. I’ll fight back and cause damage before I let life beat me. I want to die, but I can’t find peace. So F you, all of you...chaos, pain, trauma, heartbreak. Shoot the school, kill the neighbor, kill anyone who cares who gives an F. Life isn’t worth living. I wish I was never born. Soon my own blood will prove that about me. But not soon enough. Until then, more deaths. More stupid deaths.” — Manifesto Excerpt [33:41–35:47],
• Discussion of self-diagnosed mental illness, suicidal ideation, and possible gender dysphoria; host forcefully critiques current standards for diagnosing and intervening in mental health, especially related to transgender individuals.
  • “Gender dysphoria...has more comorbidities than any other psychiatric illness. And a 41 to 42% attempt to suicide rate, whether pre op or post op.” — Crowder [20:03–20:07]
• Speculation whether manifesto is genuine or deliberately trolling to create chaos—a la Christchurch shooter ([13:38]).
• Team notes repeated “warning signs” (disturbing drawings, internet activity, notes about parents and transition) that should have been red flags for authorities ([13:11–14:54], [112:54–114:03]).
• "There were multiple warning signs along this behavioral continuum that we as a community need to actually learn to identify..." — Analyst (CNN clip) [110:54–112:12]

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5. Gun Control, Gun Free Zones, and Policy Debates

• Asserts that gun control advocates and politicians (e.g., Amy Klobuchar, Jen Psaki, Obama) use events to push their agenda prematurely (multiple timestamps starting around [02:25–04:25], [40:00–42:29]).
• Host claims nearly all mass shootings occur in “gun-free zones,” and argues arming responsible citizens, homeschooling, and avoiding gun-free zones as ways to protect families ([57:36–61:26], [65:51–67:07]).
  • “94% of mass shootings occur in gun free zones, period. Half a million to over 2 million defensive uses of firearms every year compared to the low tens of thousands of homicides, period. They save far more lives than they take.” — Crowder [56:42–57:48]
• Dismisses most proposed legal restrictions as ineffective indicators (e.g., pistol grips ban, magazine limits) ([63:10–65:10]).
• Argues media ignores data and patterns, particularly when shootings are perpetrated by minorities or transgender individuals ([86:56–90:13], [103:00–103:11]).

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6. Societal Trends: Gender, Family Structure, and Church

• The crew draws explicit connections between perceived cultural breakdown—absent fathers, rise of single-parent homes, feminism, gender-affirming care—and violence or mental illness ([27:36–33:24], [35:47–39:52], [73:09–74:33]).
  • “Strong men. And I don’t mean strong being able to lift a truck...I mean strong being able to say...as for me, in my house, we don’t do that.” — Crowder [30:00]
• Labels mother’s “progressive” support for transition as misguided, connects mother’s volunteer work at church and church’s alleged liberal trend as harmful ([25:52–27:36], [31:35–32:08]).
• Links “secular humanist society” and relativist values with nihilism and violence ([36:01–39:52]).
• Equates cultural acceptance of late-term abortion and transition of children with the devaluation of human life ([69:13–74:33]).

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7. Media Response Real-Time & Comparison

• The team tracks CNN’s delayed and “sanitized” coverage in real time, contrasting their own rapid, in-depth reporting ([85:04–94:25], [102:00–114:27]).
  • CNN eventually names the shooter, briefly notes manifesto, but omits details on gender, transition, anti-Christian sentiments, specific anti-Semitic references, or political symbolism.
  • “They are now choosing to cover the anecdotal in the complete absence of the factual of what it is that we know. Which, again, we got this hours ago.” — Crowder [102:09]
• Host repeatedly expresses frustration at media’s ambiguity, framing coverage as deliberately evasive ([113:45–114:27]).

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8. Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “There needs to be content out there that exists to serve you, especially in these confusing times.” — Crowder [02:25]
• “Don't allow these people to profit off the credibility that you have created here, because a lot of these people deserve to be mistrusted.” — Crowder [15:40]
• "I have to leave my mark on this world. I can't let the world crush me...I want to die, but I can't find peace. So F you, all of you. I wonder, will the news report my attack?...I do this for chaos, for pain, to ruin lives. F you. I'm going to kill so many kids." — Manifesto read by Co-host [33:41–35:47]
• "If this is a psychotic transgender individual inspired by a soulless, godless agenda killing children, that act of violence is not equivalent to a father who...protect[s] children." — Crowder [20:07]
• "It's almost like the father was tasked with leading the household and was held legally liable if he failed it. Throughout all of human history." — Crowder [48:24]
• "Strong men...are the most important safeguard against [cultural rot]." — Crowder [30:07]
• "If you claim to be a Christian and you vote Democrats, very unlikely that you tithe. You're very likely incredibly uncharitable as seen by Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders. But that's an aside." — Crowder [137:58]

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9. Community Q&A (Rapid-fire Segment After [117:45])

• Q: Should churches add armed security? (Consensus: yes, and many already do [116:51])
• Q: Would reopening mental health institutions help? (Yes, with historical caveats) [135:11]
• Q: How do Christians rationalize voting for leftists? (Crowder argues it’s due to lack of true belief and Biblical principle) [137:58]
• Q: Cure for feminism's dominance? (Men should not tolerate or marry it; women should accept male leadership; return to traditional roles) [130:42]

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Memorable Humor and Tone

Crowder's delivery is acerbic, combative, and often irreverent, blending gallows humor with righteous anger. The crew interjects with jokes, pop culture references ("The Land Before Cocks", [75:38]), and competitive banter, aiming to keep the mood fast-paced despite the heavy topic.

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Structured Timeline: Important Segments and Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|-------------| | Breaking Shooter Info / Media Critique | 00:01–04:45 | | Disturbing Details from Manifesto & Videos | 09:33–13:13, 33:41–35:47 | | Shooter Identification, Transition Background | 14:54–17:39, 22:15–23:39 | | Cultural/Faith/Fatherhood Analysis | 27:36–39:52, 48:24–57:36 | | Gun Control/Gun-Free Zone Policy Analysis | 56:42–67:07 | | Media Response (Real-Time CNN Tracking) | 85:04–94:25, 102:00–114:27 | | Manifesto Deep Dive, Q&A, Solution Proposals | 114:27–137:58 |

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Final Thoughts

The episode serves as both a breaking news report and a vehicle for broader cultural commentary. Crowder and company advance a clear, unapologetically conservative stance: that progressive social trends, fatherlessness, and moral relativism underpin both rising violence and a sense of purposelessness driving such acts. Simultaneously, they call out what they see as media double standards and government overreach, advocating for traditional values, armed self-defense, and transparency in journalism.

For listeners seeking a point-by-point investigation of both the tragic event and its broader sociocultural meaning—as well as an unfiltered right-wing take on media and policy—this episode delivers an extensive, sometimes polemical, but well-documented narrative.

Transcript

[Host]

Hi. We are back with you live. Welcome back. Of course, all Rumble viewers, we just had to break that last stream off, and right now we are streaming wide to YouTube. As you know, we don't stream live to YouTube anymore. We stream exclusively on Rumble 11am weekdays every day. Part of the lineup there. Please do go and watch live. That's the best place to stay in touch and look. If you're not a member of Rumble Premium, Mug Club is Rumble Premium. Rumble Premium is Mug Club. Your membership is what allows us to do exactly what we are doing today. I will say this. You've got. You've got Lane the Brain. Gingersnapp. He hates that nickname. You've got George the Greek. You've got Sam out there. You've got an entire team working very tirelessly. And for those of you who are just tuning in now, we broke exclusive information regarding this shooting in Minneapolis. That would have been. Was it 1240? Was it at 1247? So 30. Oh, yeah. So how many? 34 minutes ago. I'm trying to see what the time is. 34, 35 minutes ago. Information that I guarantee you CNN has access to and they have yet to cover it. There's a lot of misinformation out there. So what we just covered on the stream, if you missed it on Rumble, is we had some tips come in and there was a YouTube channel. There's a possible manifesto that we showed on the stream. There were videos uploaded. There was some writing. I believe he said it was some kind of Russian. And this. This channel, after we grabbed it, was nuked and would appear, I would say, a lean 70, 80% at this point in time. We cannot confirm everything, but we've certainly done a lot more legwork to confirm the information here than I've seen anyone else put in that this is the person behind the shooting. There was. In the video, you'll see an LGBTQ rainbow flag. My Little Pony. Also see. Is it gas the Jews? Death to the Jews.

[Co-host]

Nuke India. Like, there's all kinds of Nuke India.

[Contributor 1]

It's a pride flag with a rifle on it, too, by the way. It's not just.

[Host]

Yeah, exactly. And also the. Well, I guess I wouldn't say schematics, but a sketch of the church and seemingly a plan. So this is out there. I don't know if we want to. Do we want to rerun that portion of the video Again, I'm kind of drinking from a fire hose just to.

[Co-host]

Kind of set people up. So, again, we haven't confirmed who this is, but this is what's going around right now is potentially who the shooter is and some of the videos from that channel that's been nuked.

[Host]

Yes. And just to be clear, I'm. This is not my doing. I'm giving credit to the people there in Mission control. I told them anything that you get, please send in what you can verify or if you feel relatively confident that you think this is information people should know. Again, people who are watching, just tuning in now on YouTube, before the bodies were cold, you had Klobuchar. And everyone on CNN not only, of course, pushing for gun control, not only spouting the common myth that semi automatic guns are one trigger pull and countless bullets, but every other social agenda that you think could possibly be tagged onto there. And here's the thing, we don't know, we're not able to confirm this. You'll see this, this could be someone who's just demented and trolling because it seems like there could be just this weird confluence of motivations. We don't know right now. But I am telling you this, that even if it's trolling, right? Remember we saw that with Christchurch where they said Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro and obviously we knew this was someone who wanted to sort of lay this at the altar of the extreme right. I can tell you this, the rainbow flag LGBTQ that you see in this video would be enough to preclude NBC, abc, cbs, cnn, MSNBC from covering it because they have jumped at the opportunity much more quickly than this in the past if they think they can label it right wing extremists. So I'm just telling, I know people well enough, I know that cnn, if they saw it, said we're not going to touch it, we want to verify 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 times and then hopefully are able to negate it with some other motivating factor and then get it in the spin room. So that is exactly why you are not seeing any of this information. That is exactly why this team here brought this exclusively. And I will say I don't want you to have to choose between dead silence due to a political agenda on legacy media and misinformation from people who are in the click business, not the content business, not the due diligence business online. There needs to be some kind of an acceptable, I don't even want to say middle ground. There needs to be content out there that exists to serve you, especially in these confusing times. All right? So hopefully that helps set it up. Are we going, we are going to this video, I believe Noodles we showed this on our last stream.

[Contributor 1]

We want to see the one with the going through the book with the schematic.

[Host]

Yes. And I warn you, this is spine chillingly disturbing. It's not graphic or anything, but just if this is the person, and it very much at this point seems I'm going to treat this person like the prime suspect as anyone would if they were doing any kind of detective work. Also, Mud Club Undercover right now is verifying, translating. I'm going to treat this person as the prime suspect. And knowing that and seeing this video that was on a channel which immediately after we found and brought up was nuked. So it doesn't exist anymore. It's not a pleasant experience. Let's show it again of caught up. I don't know how I'm gonna fill in the rest for y'. All. I'll probably just upload like another video on the day it catches y' all up to anything else they read it. Oh, you stupid ass. You corny. You stupid corny. You talking about haha, nice. I can kill myself, myself, myself. Here's some bands I like and shit. That's. That's all. That's all I do. I fall, I break and I die. Now again, operating off of the premise here that this is the primary suspect, I don't want to see any people coming out saying this was a normal person and we just never knew. They'll often push that so that you ignore the warning sign. So you only look to the gun, the gun, the gun. That's why they do it. And then we often find out later that actually there were a ton of warning signs. That's clearly someone who was mentally disturbed. That clearly is someone who is abnormal. What is normal, not that. So I want us to be really vigilant and remember this as people come out with the stories. Because, and I'm certainly not saying anything like false, just to be clear, because lawsuits abound. False flag, psyop paid opposition, not saying any of that. But I am saying that people are disingenuous with their presentations and the facts they choose to include and those they choose to omit. Anyone can see that and know not only what your gut is telling you, but what your mind is telling you. This is someone who should have been on the radar as clearly mentally unwell. I don't believe that he sat down for the very first time. If this is the primary suspect creating that upload, which likely would have been scheduled, and this was the first time they started behaving that way, it would be very Hard to sell me that. Now we have another video that we showed. Again, if you have missed it, go to Rumble, download the app. Follow me there. Because I don't stream here on YouTube very often because it's the constant gestapo here who want to delete, ban us. We're still streaming every day. You can go and see what we were covering there. It's a long show. This is another video again, I believe this was uploaded to that channel. And this is where. See if you notice some stickers. Symbolism, language.

[Contributor 1]

A Ruger schematic.

[Host]

Defend equality. Right there. It's an ak. And also where's the hash which would seem to indicate someone who very into psychotropic drugs. What we say you break it, die. Okay. And then I believe we have one more where he is showing. And this is why we feel relatively confident because this tip was sent in to us. We verified some of it. This was uploaded several hours ago. So it seems like it would have been a scheduled upload. Obviously includes the image of the church. Obviously. There's a lot of writing in there which we are looking to translate. It would have been a lot of work to create this afterward as a hoax as well as the. The smoke bomb because maybe we could grab that clip. The police chief did say they didn't find any explosive devices, but there was something like a smoke bomb, which again we were able to confirm. You see a smoke bomb? Don't know if it's the smoke bomb.

[Contributor 1]

He described it as like a smoke firework too. So not what you would think is a typical smoke bomb with, you know, a pin.

[Host]

Right.

[Contributor 1]

And a canister. Something that you could buy at a. You know, fireworks.

[Host]

Right.

[Contributor 1]

Which.

[Host]

There you go. Yeah. In one of these videos again on a channel that is nuked. So we've been doing everything we can to scrape that and find some sources that can get us any information that has since been deleted. So that smoke bomb there and here is just so I can catch everybody up. And I appreciate everyone bearing with us who's already been there. In the previous stream on Rumble, the video where he's showing his. His weapons, ammunition, noodles. I believe that you have that at the ready. Please show it. This one's for me in case I need it. That's either an old model 10 or is it an old putting it Taurus 85 put in his mouth there. Smoke extra thick.

[Contributor 1]

Oh, it does have a pin.

[Host]

Yeah. God. There. Murderer. An upside down cross for the win. No remorse.

[Contributor 1]

It's f the world.

[Contributor 2]

I think like a phoenix.

[Host]

I thought it was for the win. I. Apologies. It's both. Freedom, pain, hate. Okay.

[Contributor 2]

Time to play Bar Nerdy. But Baruch Kaza. Just take up your axes.

[Host]

Now, is this where. Where did we see the. The Israel or Jews?

[Co-host]

That was earlier on one of the first guns.

[Host]

Okay. Yeah. It's also on the smoke bomb.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I think so.

[Contributor 2]

I think I have some separate imagery as well.

[Host]

Yeah. Okay.

[Contributor 2]

At least we can get along with.

[Host]

That one kill Pedos. Well, you're here now. I would also have to ask if he spent all this time with a Sharpie putting that on his rifle. Where are the parents? Because that's not something that happens accidentally. If this person. I don't know if this person, what age this person is, who's around him, these would be signs that you could spot. Yes, Gerald, it looks like you're raising.

[Co-host]

So we. It's kind of something that our team is digging through right now. In the. In the manifesto that he's kind of flipping through the pages that look like Cyrillic. It's kind of a mishmash. But right there we have kind of the phonetic for school shooting written in Cyrillic on one of the pages. And we've highlighted and popped it out there. So we're. What we're really trying to look for too. And I've talked to the team. Is any kind of indication of what the motivation was. I'm seeing a lot of different stuff. And let me. I'll approach this very delicately.

[Host]

Can I just really quickly touch on that? Please continue. Is we were trying to put this through some type of translation and it seems like Cyrillic words used. But maybe it would seem at this point, maybe someone is actually English who tried to write it in that language. Which again would seem like it's trying to throw you off the scent. Like maybe just someone just copied down English words in Cyrillic so it doesn't actually translate. And listening to this person, it seems like they're English speaking. Again, I don't know, they could be bilingual. It seems like someone, by the way, who is using hip hop lingo and even. And if it's Russia, not as big of a hash culture. So to be clear, this could be someone who is trolling, who's throwing out, hey, let me throw out a rainbow flag and let me throw out something against the Jews just to create chaos. And like I said before, I would have once upon a time agreed with people saying, hey, I don't want to give these people any type of notoriety, any type of attention. That is not the world that we live in. Yeah, you have Purveyors of misinformation online for clicks. They're in the click business, not the content business, not the accuracy business, certainly not the comedy business either. The hack click business. And then you have people who are in the misinformation business and legacy media. I think you deserve something better, especially during these times we try and provide it. Let us earn your support, but we're. We're calling balls and strikes. Yes, Gerald.

[Co-host]

All right, so it looks like we can confirm now based on what other. Let me say it this way, that other outlets are saying that this is actually the person Robin Westman is. The name that they're saying is the person that's possibly the shooter here. Robin, from some of the things that I have seen, was if it's the same person, it looks like it. But again, reports are going around that this was Robert Westman that transitioned and legally had first name changed, if that is completely accurate. Again, guys, we're going off of everything that we can find right now, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of misinformation floating around anymore about this person. We've seen that for about 45 minutes to an hour right now. But we wanted to make sure that it was confirmed because we don't want to put anybody's name out there.

[Host]

Anyone give credit to the team here that they're following their lead?

[Co-host]

Well, I. I don't think so.

[Host]

No, they're not. By the way, show them you love them. Hey, the only way you hit the tip jar is join Rumble Premium Nashville Manifesto. This. Here's the thing. Don't allow these people to profit off of the credibility that you have created here, because a lot of these people deserve to be mistrusted. And they go, oh, wait, there's something accurate, and they'll take it from us. The work that these people put in here so they can bring your trust back. Don't. Hey, show your support if you can. I would like to go back to that.

[Contributor 1]

A lot of this came from Rumble Premium.

[Host]

Well, this all came from this. Literally. They would have had to be watching on Rumble Premium. That's. That's where this originates. Just to be clear, the other thing I did want to say is in the first video, I didn't want to say anything because you always have to be careful because the legal hurdles. The nails. Yeah, the hands and the nails. I saw it, and I thought, here, if we can show the video again, I thought, this looks like someone. Looks like a man who either is transitioning and getting manicures or Maybe had and is now trying to sort of undo it a little bit, but it didn't look like a typical man's hands would. That's completely. Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host]

No, I agree.

[Host]

It's completely waxed, epilated, shaved, trimmed, and it looks like. If you can zoom in, it looks like there's some color or some polish.

[Contributor 2]

Not on this one, unfortunately.

[Host]

No. Okay.

[Co-host]

Yeah. That doesn't look like just the.

[Host]

Okay, again, I'm looking at a small model.

[Co-host]

Yeah. So there's some other information floating around right now that would tie this person to the school if it turns out to be true. So I'm not gonna say that yet, but we're looking into it right now to see if. If that is, in fact true. But if the documents that I've seen, I'm looking at a court document right now. If this turns out to be accurate, then they would have transitioned, it seems, somewhere around 2019, 2020, and that's when they had. Or transition, meaning they legally had their name changed. So the transition part may be something that happened in stages after that.

[Host]

But 55 minutes since we first broke at a rumble premium. I'm not hearing anything on CNN about it. 55 minutes. Yeah, 55 minutes. They'll tell you that it's because they're being prudent. Okay. Christchurch, Nashville. I mean, how many examples do we need to go through where they jump to conclusions, by the way, They've already jumped to conclusions here. It's. You got to control the guns. So don't allow them to sell you that they're being prudent. Just don't allow the people who constantly get it wrong online to sell you. Well, we make mistakes. We do live. Look, fake news is a real problem, both on the left and the right, but it is an industry problem where people are incentivized to get information out as quickly as possible. True or not, it's a whole lot easier to just rely on people who aren't familiar with you coming in and believing you next time than it is to actually try and serve you, the viewer, listener. And it's a real problem. Hey, change. My mind was created because I was frustrated about the lack of actual conversations and exposing the institutions of higher learning in legacy media. Election night was the byproduct of us feeling frustrated and helpless. That's why we are wide right now, because I've put myself in your shoes. I would want to have a place where I can go and trust. We're pretty confident, but not 100% certain that this is the person. If we tell you, hey, we're now making these connections, we will give you the degree of certainty with which we can deliver that information. We're going to try and be as transparent as humanly possible. I appreciate you being with us because you know what? This is heart wrenching. It's heartbreaking. Evil will always be amongst you. You get to. You see in real time the different worldviews between the left and the right. The left saying, oh, this shouldn't happen. Well, it does. Can't we all get along? No. Can we get rid of the guns? No. No, we can't.

[Contributor 1]

I would speculate that those guns were not acquired illegally either.

[Host]

I don't know. It could have been. I mean, this happens where it goes now, hey, do we want to have the uncomfortable conversation that if someone is legally transitioning, the comorbidities with gender dysphoria are off the charts? The attempted suicide rate over 40%. Jews in the Holocaust didn't experience that. Gays, American slaves didn't experience that. If there was any other person who came in and said, hey, by the way, I want to buy this gun and I'm in that demographic of a 42% attempted suicide rate that we wouldn't say, well, that's a gimme. We should screen for that.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah. If you're gonna advocate for red flag laws, I would call that a red flag. I would call it a rainbow flag.

[Host]

Yes, yes, so would I. I'd call it a giant, bright, brony rainbow flag. But we don't wanna have those conversations. Right. Let's just have a conversation about how violence is bad. As though all violence is equivalent. I'll tell you this, it's not. If this is a psychotic transgender individual inspired by a soulless, godless agenda killing children, that act of violence is not equivalent to a father who beats his head into a pulp or her or Z. In order to protect children. I will never, I will never subscribe to the belief that violence is inherently immoral. Sometimes violence is the most moral thing you can do in the face of evil. Violence. You guys can comment below. Just stop running from it. We need to breed, raise strong young men to help the vulnerable and the helpless.

[Contributor 1]

This is a weird thing I noticed, but when we were going through that first journal there in the video, and they had the picture of the church, there's a picture near the rear of that book that had. It looked like, you know, this person looking in the mirror at some kind of demon or something.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

And he's saying, corny motherfucker, all this kind of stuff. Yeah, it looks like there was some kind of emphasis on what looked like a penis that was drawn in between the legs and some kind of squiggly lines around it, like, trying to emphasize that there is some.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

If you.

[Host]

Can we zoom in.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah.

[Contributor 2]

Again, unfortunately, this is a video.

[Host]

I'll.

[Contributor 2]

I'll get a still of it, though.

[Contributor 1]

I didn't want to say anything earlier because I didn't want to, you know.

[Host]

No, no, no. That's a good start.

[Contributor 1]

Speculating about their, you know, their sexuality or their orientation or gender or whatever. But I did notice that, and I was like, that might be something that will come up later if they have a real problem with their penis.

[Host]

Yes. That's very astute. Yeah. Let me see. What is it? Oh, you mean between the person's leg or the demon's leg?

[Contributor 1]

The person's leg, Yeah.

[Host]

I don't know if that's just shading. Yeah.

[Co-host]

I don't know whether.

[Host]

Just shitty at drawing. Yeah. I mean, is there a penis on the table in front of the demon?

[Contributor 2]

I think it's a faucet. It looks to be like a vanity.

[Host]

All right. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Co-host]

So a couple of other pieces of information. So in Noodles, if you can pull up the court document that Lane sent in. Right there. So this is the name change that we were talking about. So we zoom in. Yeah. So this is where Robert becomes Robin. This is in. It looks like 2020, I think. Is that the date? 4:15, 2020.

[Host]

Yep.

[Co-host]

And it's 4 or 11. But it means the parent signed off on this. And I'm not laying blame necessarily.

[Host]

What year was it?

[Co-host]

This is 2020. So 4, 15, 20, this person signed off of the next image that we have here with the robin below that. So that means that it was really quickly.

[Contributor 1]

It was a mother's name.

[Co-host]

No, no, no, no.

[Host]

Not that.

[Co-host]

Not that. The next image signed off with a bird.

[Host]

Oh, okay. Sorry.

[Co-host]

Yeah, let's be very careful on that.

[Host]

So hold on a second. So we could deduce that in 2020, this person was a minor.

[Co-host]

Right. I'm showing you the dates he signed off on the note. So this is. Leave that up for just a second. This is from a note that he left, apparently, to his parents and family. So again, from all of the stuff that we've talked about, as best that we can tell, so.

[Host]

So it seemed like this person might.

[Co-host]

Be 23 years old right at the time. Now, 2002, that kind of. All this stuff kind of lines up to see that this is the same person that the mom had to sign off on this for them to be able to change their name.

[Contributor 1]

Would have been 17 at the time, then probably a late 22,002 birthday.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

So the indication is, okay, there's obviously some kind of an indication that at the very least something's not right. Says that they've. If you read some of the pages of the note and I took a minute to do that while we were talking, it talks about him saying that he has cancer. I think it was lung cancer or something like that that he did to himself through vaping and doing other stuff and kind of beating up on my body. I don't want my life to be, you know, lived in hospitals throughout this F this. I'm going to go out on my own terms apologizing to his family for what's about to happen. Telling them that if they need to change their names that they, you know, should do that. And just, you know, doesn't really do a whole lot to indicate motive in that specific letter that I saw, but just filled with basically just saying, here's what's going to happen. Not saying I'm going to go to the shirt.

[Host]

I haven't read it.

[Co-host]

Going out on my own.

[Host]

I would make a speculation and I would wager that I'm likely right. The mom signed off on the transition.

[Contributor 1]

It said Mary at the top.

[Host]

Yeah. So a dad didn't.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah.

[Host]

So a dad didn't.

[Co-host]

Guys, is that a real Facebook post? I need to know this really fast because this will be important. I just need to know really quickly, is that a real Facebook post from their account?

[Host]

Okay.

[Co-host]

Before you get there to confirm. It's very important.

[Host]

Okay. Before you do that though, just so people. So a dad didn't. So if there's a dad there or there's no dad. If the dad is there, he's not present because the mom is the one involved with making a life altering decision, by the way. And also if we talk about cancer, just so you know, if you're undergoing hormone replacement therapy, estrogen is one of the worst things you can put into the male body to super physiological levels. As a matter of fact, it's bad for the female body because one of the first things they put women with breast cancer on would be aromatase inhibitors or estrogen blockers, just to be clear. So if that's the case, hey, there's a lot of speculating, but I do notice the mom signed off on it. How progressive. Yeah, tell me.

[Co-host]

So Church of Annunciation. This Is from their Facebook page in it. Go ahead and pull it up. Noodles. On Sunday we honored Mary Grace Westman, who is retiring from enunciation. So if this is correct, that's his mom worked at the church or with the church in some capacity for five years, retiring in August of 2021. So that's at least one of the connections that I told you about a minute ago that I didn't want to say until I had it confirmed. I've seen it going around, but I wanted to find the original post. This is from their Facebook account.

[Host]

So the mom. Mom volunteering or working at the church who signed off on the child's transition? Yes. You guys starting to see the fucking problem with feminism permeating the church? It's a dad's job to protect against that. You guys starting to see the problem? But it's nice he feels this way. Ignore the warning signs. Drawing a parallel. Travis Kelce. It seems nice. You won't be one of 14. Be nice. Ignore the warning signs. Mass migration, open borders. It seems nice. Ignore the warning signs. Live your truth. Ignore the warning signs. Just let them compete against women now. Two men competing for the Olympic medal in boxing, beating up women. Ignore the warning. Ignore what Jesus Christ, our Lord and savior says the man who established the church that I claim to serve, my psychotic son and or daughter Z whatever wants to change their gender. It's the nice thing to do. You know what we need as a dad to go ho ho ho ho. I don't care if it's nice. It's wrong. It's wrong.

[Co-host]

So. And by the way, we're saying that it's mother based on the application of the name change. So it says down there the applicant is the parent. And so she filed the application on behalf of him.

[Host]

So on behalf of the son.

[Co-host]

On behalf of the son who's changing his name.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

So just, just so you got where from.

[Host]

No matter what it is, she on behalf.

[Co-host]

This was a legal thing. Making sure we clarify. So your point is correct. I just wanted to make sure we clarified why I said mom. So it's based on that document. So that's what we think. Based on what we've seen.

[Host]

Let me ask you this. Look at the voting patterns. Do you believe that a strong, traditional, disciplined father is more likely or less likely to transition their minor answer. Comment.

[Contributor 1]

Be willing to bet that he's not around.

[Host]

I know, I'm just. Yes, but I'm talking about as a general demographic as far as the kind of country you want to live in the Kinds of units that are being created, the family unit, which needs to be the form of self governance before state governance, before federal governance, before municipal governance. Do you believe that a traditional, toxically masculine, you know, aggressive, risk taking, authoritative exhibits, strong leadership qualities is more likely or less likely? If you're going to select a group of people, which one would you say is most unlikely to sign off? Encourage transition their minor. Okay, you've answered. Now let me ask you this. Looking at the numbers, looking at the demographics, looking at the LGBTQ AIP policy, would you say that a middle class white woman, in comparison to a traditional father in a nuclear family, is more likely or less likely to sign off on transitioning their child? Because it's nice. Let's be honest about what we're dealing with. Would you think that someone in the church, I don't know exactly the doctrine of this church, can someone let me know is is more likely or less likely if it's a man in a traditional orthodox Baptist Catholic church to say no, no, no, no, we don't do that, we don't advocate for transitioning. As a matter of fact, if that's your belief, it's antithetical to our theology and you can't serve or volunteer. You can attend, but you can't be in a position of leadership. Do you believe that a man is more likely to in love, deliver that speech to said person, are less likely? Do you believe that there's an influence of liberalism, of progressivism, of feminism, that a woman in a position of authority is more or less likely to say, oh, whatever, yeah, that's fine. There are many paths to God. Not everything is nuanced. We need a little more black and white. We need a little more right and wrong. Otherwise how do you end up with someone serving in a church transitioning their child? We were told just to give you an idea before you get to the idea of Christian and non Christian, secular society told us that it was a fallacy, that there was a straw man. It was a red herring. All the fallacies they could trump up. When we said, hey, hold on a second, where does this whole gender extravaganza end? Would we transition children? That's the fear mongering slippery slope again. No one's coming for your children, right? That's secular society. That's the Democrat party only a few years ago. Now you have women in positions of leadership or volunteer in church transitioning children. See how far we've gotten and what's your most important safeguard against it? Something that is in very short Supply strong men. And I don't mean strong being able to lift a truck in some Nordic country. I don't mean strong being able to crush a beer can on their head. I mean strong being able to say, now, as for me, in my house, we don't do that. We're not going to condone it. We're not going to support it, and we're going to caution against it. Secular society. No one's ever coming for your kids. 2022, was it? 21. Church mom signing off on transing their minor. But it's nice.

[Co-host]

So there's also a review of the church that I believe was two years ago. So that would have been 2023. The highlighted part is they have gone through some interesting priests. The last One I saw, 2020, definitely did not fit Minneapolis. Homophobic and such. So basically saying that the church was teaching the church doctrine, or according to the Roman Catholic Church, homosexuality is a sin. Correct me if I'm wrong there, but it is clear in the Bible. So I assume you guys got that one, right? Let me go.

[Host]

It doesn't really matter who the priest is, though. If people who are serving the church, if everyone else is. Yeah, but he's traditional. We let you do whatever.

[Co-host]

It's okay, so. And by the way, you know, I want to just to credit Mug Club Undercover. They've been working on some of the translation here. And our team out there, you guys are doing a great job. So please keep going. Let me. I'm going to try to do this. Is leave that up. So that very top. The KTO backwards. R, essentially. So who am I? And then the next line. Who is this meeting? The next two. The next line. Help me. Exclamation point. The next line. I don't want to. And then the next line repeated. Kill yourself multiple times at the bottom down there, if you can see that. That's the translation that we have for right now.

[Host]

Yeah, Looking at that top one. Go back to that top one. The top word, if you can. Noodles, Zoom in on the top word.

[Co-host]

The who am I? The.

[Host]

I just thought they were a fan of corn.

[Contributor 1]

Well, they might be Petey Pablo fans.

[Host]

Yeah. Who am I? Next page is just a bunch of Papa Roach lyrics. Like, oh, well, that doesn't help.

[Contributor 1]

The scars aren't gonna remind you of anything anymore, are they?

[Host]

Oh, gosh. What a. What a piece of shit. I'm not gonna be nice. What a piece of shit. Who should be burning in hell. Yeah, should be burning in hell. And a special seat reserved for you, Mom.

[Co-host]

So I've got. Guys do me a favor on that. So we ran an entire page through ChatGPT. We're going to be able to post it for you guys, but can. I don't know if you want to just read the. Want me to read the whole page or have them highlight anything, but I can give you. Yeah, it's already posted on the account. Sorry. Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

You want me to just read it?

[Host]

Yes.

[Co-host]

Okay, so go ahead and bring that up. I spend so much time staring at the mirror. And when I do, I see something staring back at me. Short, haunting glimpses. I hate that monster. I hate what I've become. I wish I was someone else. I wish I had never been born. And soon that wish will come true. I'm locked into this mission now. I can't turn back. I have to leave my mark on this world. I can't let the world crush me. I'll fight back and cause damage before I let life beat me. I want to die, but I can't find peace. So F you, all of you. I wonder, will the news report my attack? Will the school system even acknowledge it? This isn't religion. It isn't politics. There's no message. That's the message. There is no message. I do this for chaos, for pain, to ruin lives. F you. I'm going to kill so many kids. I want the surprise, the shock. They play training videos, pretend they're ready for an active shooter. But when the time comes, they won't be ready. Sure, some might fight back. Maybe even a few fourth graders swarm me, try to tackle me. Fine, that'll be funny. Even more deaths, even more chaos. I don't want to be here. I keep numbing myself with violent videos, with gore, but it's never enough. I still crave more. I crave violence. I want to hurt people. Tomorrow is my last day at work. After that, the charade of pretending ends. I've read posts, studied it all. I've seen blood trails, brain matter. And I want to see it for myself. I want to spill. I want to spill my own. I love the thought of it. The spasms, the scratching. The end. I'm sick. I know it. I don't care. Soon I'll spill blood and leave this painful earth behind. And no. There's no afterlife, no heaven, no hell. We're just meat. Just dirt. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

[Host]

Want to bet?

[Co-host]

I am subhuman. I am dirt. Born to shoot, forced to shoot. I'm tired of my life. Tired of pretending to live up to Humanity, standards. Nobody escapes this world. Not really. So I won't play along anymore. I'll do what I've wanted to do for so long. I won't put up with this any longer. Chaos, pain, trauma, heartbreak. Shoot the school, kill the neighbor, kill anyone who cares who gives an F. Life isn't worth living. I wish I was never born. Soon my own blood will prove that about me. But not soon enough. Until then, more deaths. More stupid deaths.

[Host]

Yeah, and here's the thing. They can say it's not about politics. They can say there is no. That is the message. Yeah. Message heard loud and clear.

[Contributor 1]

If it's not about religion, it's not about politics. Then why'd you do it where you did it?

[Host]

Oh, it is, it is. It is. This person doesn't. This is. That's the point I'm making, is message heard loud and clear. You're godless, purposeless, and you've been sold, like many kids, like an entire generation of people, a false bill of goods that you will find that purpose. You will find that fulfillment. Ah, just a few more hormones. Ah, just a name change. Ah, just being gendered. You're miserable because you couldn't take a dump at a target. You're miserable because you couldn't have someone refer to you as the gender that you preferred. You're miserable once you change your name. You're miserable because you're barely passable. Let's make you passable instead of someone going, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. All of us have a purpose. You're fearfully and wonderfully created, and your life isn't your own. You want to know the power of social conditioning or the power of some kind of moral anchor. Compare the approach in war, historically of Western Christendom to, for example, the Japanese. They didn't value human life the same way. That's why you had people who were willing to die, kamikaze people who were. Because honor was most important. It was so ingrained in them when they were young that some people would kill themselves at the first slight. Now, I'm not judging Japanese culture. What I'm saying is that we don't do that. That seems so foreign to us in the United States of America, in Western civilization. Why? Because we start off with, by the way, you are fearfully and wonderfully created. You are a mirror image of God, and your life is not your own. Human life is sacred. The same thing that says, hey, don't kill those babies. It's the same foundational worldview that says, yeah, you can't Take your own life. But the same society, the secular humanist society that says abortion up until and including nine months taxpayer funded period is the same society. Canada, a lost and conquered people who say, yeah, euthanasia, you don't want to do whatever you want, it's your life and we'll pay for it. Oh sure, no sex, not just gender. Now they use the term sex too. It's interchangeable. It's a social conscious, whatever you want. And then we say, who is it hurting? Everyone. Everyone. I'm not just talking about the shooting. Everyone. It is a brokenness and a soullessness, a godlessness. It is a hole in the soul of a civilization that required that God shaped hole to be filled to begin with. That's kind of a big reason that we're a country. You can say, who does it hurt? Well, you drag people a little bit away from the idea that they were created for something. The idea that we all have duties, the idea that there's right and wrong. The idea, by the way, that there is a consequence for our actions above our own earthly authority. You know, heaven and hell. Seems like this person said there is no heaven and hell. Seemed like this person believed the secular life. Oh yeah, there's no meaning to life. It's the earthly pursuit of pleasures and I've run out of them because it turns out whether it's by the way, winning the lottery or chopping off your dick, it rings pretty hollow. And it doesn't mean all that much. It's very temporary. Only now you have a permanent wound or endocrine damage that you can't correct again. I really want to drive this home to you. Only a few years ago, no one's talking about transitioning children. You're cracking up, you kook. To now people in the church are signing off on the certificate and then say, I wonder why people are lost. I'm not wondering.

[Co-host]

Yeah, no, it's just opinion.

[Host]

Just to be clear, that's just opinion and I mean it. That's just opinion.

[Co-host]

So right now, you know, one of the other things that we've talked about is the mayor's response to this. That call is like, you know, thoughts and prayers aren't enough. They're in the pews praying when they were shot. Well, Jen Psaki is getting in on that exact same thing. Saying prayer is not freaking enough. Prayers do not end school shootings. Prayers do not make parents feel safe sending their kids to school. Prayers do not bring these kids back. Enough with the thoughts and prayers. Go to the post. Go to Jen Psaki's account and go to the post right above that because I think it's really important for you to understand that it's not just about prayers aren't enough. Like nobody is sitting here praying, Jen. And Mayor what's his name trying to bring kids back. What we're praying for right now is that violence and terrible things that happen every single day in this country, the people that were affected by it just this morning, that God would somehow give them comfort that we cannot possibly understand or comprehend and be there for them in this moment in ways that no human being ever could. That's what we're praying for also. We're praying for people who are laying on a bed right now, maybe going into surgery, maybe being worked on by a doctor right now that in some way God would bless the hands of a skilled physician to make sure that that wound doesn't turn into another victim who died from this tragedy. What we're praying for is that we're praying for healing for all the kids who heard gunshots and saw glass fly and saw bullets fly into their friends that have to hug their moms and dads and thank God that they didn't die today at school. That's what we're praying for. What we want is results. Here's how I know that you don't want that. Here's the post that she put up right above that. When kids are getting shot in the pews at a Catholic school mass and your crime plan is to have National Guard put down mulch around D.C. maybe rethink your strategy. Okay, Jen, having the National Guard, do you think if they were walking around out there and maybe saw somebody with a gun over their shoulder and maybe firing into a church would have been helpful? Do you think it's good to have additional resources in a place that is so crime ridden as DC and you lived there. Well, I'm sorry, you probably didn't live there. You probably live somewhere safer and drove in to there. But I'm sure you know people that live there and dealt with the crime. You're not actually trying to find solutions to anything. You're trying to denigrate people who genuinely feel broken. For those parents who think about their kids that are in school right now and having to run to a parent center trying to be reunified with kids not knowing if they're alive or dead and you're saying don't pray, don't think about them. What the hell is your problem?

[Host]

I'll take it one step further. You want Denigrating Okay, I'll give it a shot. I'm praying for the healing and restoration of the soul of this nation that you fucking poisoned. Didn't you sit by when former Vice President Joe Biden. Let's pull that clip, the very specific clip where he said that not supporting your child is evil. What else can you call it? Remember Joe Biden saying that? I think it's evil. I think it's evil to send them down a hopeless, nihilistic, if temporarily pleasurable, hedonistic road in the name of your agenda that, you know, if these people do every single thing you say that will make them whole, they'll still end up with a 42% attempted suicide rate. Right. I'm praying for healing of this. And you know what? Maybe that's why you don't want us to pray. Because it seems like some of that is working, or at least we're reaching some people. I've been here since 2009. There were no Christians on YouTube only to be mocked. Gen Z males. They're onto your game. Maybe they're not believers, but a lot of them are realizing, hey, hold on a second. There are some values to these constructs, to these guardrails of traditional Western values that we may have taken for granted. I'm praying against the demonic influence of the Jen Psakis, of the Bidens, of the Obamas, of the Clintons, of the Karine Jean pairs, of the world, of the CEOs, of the bud Lights, of the Harley Davidson, of the Jaguars, of the world. That's what I'm praying against. The Diageos of the world. I am praying for the protection and wisdom and vigilance of people to. For them to guard against what they are bombarded with day in and day out from media, from the entertainment industry, from news from your party. How do you know it's true? Cuz you ran a candidate who wanted taxpayers to fund sex changes for violent prisoners. All of a sudden, RuPaul's Drag Race doesn't seem so severe. Right? There's no such thing as men, women, appropriate parameters of government, or limitations therein. Because all of that, just to be clear, has to be governed by a godly authority. That's why it was written in and that's why you guys take it out. And this doesn't mean that every single shooter is going to be some godless LGBTQ A. IP extremist. That's not what I'm saying, but it doesn't help.

[Co-host]

Yeah, really quickly, we have a. And I kind of forgot about this just kind of glossed over this. But don't you remember that waltz wanted to in Minnesota, a sanctuary state for trans kids.

[Contributor 1]

Yes, bring them all to Minnesota, he said.

[Co-host]

And also here's another thing. So. And let me just set this up and then play the clip or if it's just an image here, it's the Minnesota Lieutenant governor Peggy Flanagan. I believe it's from a year ago that says when our children tell us who they are, it is our job as grown ups to listen and believe them all while wearing a shirt that has protect trans kids with a knife on it. You remember this? We covered it.

[Child Psychiatrist]

This is life affirming and life saving health care. When our children tell us who they.

[News Reporter]

Are, it is our job as grown.

[Host]

Ups to listen and to believe them. Two fundamentally different worldviews. Just to be clear, just in case you guys have forgotten, a little remedial for you.

[Contributor 1]

Did that shooter ever watch that on repeat?

[Host]

Yeah, that's not your job. I don't know, it's crazy. Crazy talk, Crazy talk time. Sorry, apologies. It's not your job as a parent to believe everything your children say. Don't know if you know this. Children lie.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah, a lot.

[Host]

Don't know if you know this. Children are dumb or I should say ignorant. There are a lot of things that children don't know. That's why they're children. I know this is just a little bit of hyper masculine traditionalism where we believe that it's actually, it's incumbent upon us to raise children because they're so ignorant and because they're so malleable and easily influenced. It's almost like we used to refer to these as formative years. And by that what we meant is these are the years where we are forming the human being that they are going to become as an adult and how they will interact with society. And so it's very, very important. It's almost like it's our primary duty to help form them while simultaneously protecting them from outside influences that might deform them, that might pervert them. They're so easily influenced, they're so malleable. And you can also see it just so you kind of can draw a parallel with their joints, with their bones. I had my hand smashed into a door frame one time. Guess what? It bounced right back. Doctor said, ah, you know, he's a kid. The bones just kind of sponge come back. Same thing with the brain. It's really, really easy. That's why we don't let them rent cars until they're 25. That's why we have different laws for. It's almost like we had different laws for children, for people in their formative years, and it was our job. It's almost like we had different laws for people who were underage and they were so incapable and we all sort of agreed that they so incapable of making responsible decisions that they should be in no position of leadership whatsoever. And we were granted the authority to make any and all legal decisions to protect them. You know, like getting an aspirin at school or a fake dick. It's almost like our job isn't just to believe them and give them what they want. It's almost like if we all believe that that was our job, was to believe children and give them what they want. They would eat nothing but dinners of hot fudge sundaes and watch TV and spend their money on things that would rot their teeth and their mind. It's almost like we kind of knew that until you realized that you could socially engineer another generation of people to fit your agenda so that they'd be more easily controlled. I know it's crazy. Like I said, a little bit. Little bit loony talk. It's almost like parents were the ones who were supposed to lead and let me go one step crazier. It's almost like the father was tasked with leading the household and was held legally liable if he failed it. Throughout all of human history. It's almost like I know I'm going to go back to godly authority. It's almost like we follow a belief, a faith religion. What you want to call it, what, our holy texts, our books. I know this might be foreign to you. You might think Quran or something like that. No, no, The Bible, where we're expressly told as men that we will be judged before God for our family and no one else. And it's almost like my stomach is growling, by the way, because I've been here for a long time.

[Contributor 1]

If that was you or me, I.

[Host]

Was like, oh, no.

[Contributor 1]

I was embarrassed.

[Host]

But yeah, it's just. So do we have that clip of Biden saying that it was evil? I remember one time he was talking about supporting them, but I think it was with Mulvaney where he says, not supporting your children was evil in their transition.

[Co-host]

And while they're. While they're pulling that up just really quickly, one of the accounts that has done a pretty good job and there's a lot of people out there that have done a good job of investigating this and kind of putting information out there is the Champagne Joshi at Josh Walkos I believe at Josh Walko's on X. Done a pretty good job of getting this information out there as well. Was very early on in this in fact kind of putting this information out there.

[Host]

So.

[Co-host]

Guts, guts to do that.

[Host]

Thank you very much, Josh. And our almost an hour and a half cnn still no coverage. No, none.

[Co-host]

It's up there. So cnn. So here's the thing. I don't, I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to admonish you. CNN did cover the. The mom. We had an overlay of it.

[Host]

Oh.

[Co-host]

On their website in writing.

[Host]

Oh, that's where most of their audience. That's their. On our broadcasting.

[Contributor 1]

Most of their audiences online.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

Searching CNN.com not in an airport lobby.

[Host]

Show.

[Co-host]

Show the article. Do you have it? Do you have the. Oh, I thought you were, you're, you're highlighting that.

[Host]

Never mind.

[Co-host]

Sorry.

[Host]

Okay. Yeah, hold on a second. I'll do an impression for you of unbelievable. Of the cnn of the spin room there where. And by the way, I was at Fox News for four and a half years and I've appeared on hln, BBC, sky, you name it, I did it. But I was a contributor to Fox News for many years so I've taken part in a lot of these rooms. So this is an impression for you right now of the president of CNN or their head of the news division. Guarantee you got this information probably after we did. Someone probably sent them a link to Rumble Premium. Like I gotta watch this. There's an impression of them seeing this. If it's authentic Manifesto right on his room. Fuck. Get me a maga hat something quick. By the way.

[Co-host]

Let'S, let's go to this video.

[Host]

Also by the way guys, just before we do, none of this happens without you, your support. You know, Nashville Manifesto obviously was a huge story. What happened with the COVID architect in New York, the doj, Donald Trump. That's the reason that this man was able to run for president because then they decided oh you know what, they were going to punt it. And of course election night where we were the first place to call states, we invest in this and we're only able to do it because of you. So if you want to want it to continue, even if you don't watch every day 11am on Rumble, please do consider joining. $99 a year you get this wonderful hand etched mug. You get of course everything free. 100% more show access to all of the other content there. If you're on YouTube and you haven't gone to rumble. Download that app. It has improved leaps and bounds. You can listen to it on audio now. You don't have to be watching it. It's very seamless. It's integrated. Or hey, help create a little more Runway $9.99 a month. And that keeps us in a position where we can continue to do this. If we've earned your support and your trust, we really do appreciate it. And if not me, because I'm a clown, at least the mission control there who are doing a, doing a great job today. They always do.

[Co-host]

Yeah, doing great work. Just, just as a reminder, this is Tim Walls, March 16th of 2023, saying his state is a national model for transgenders.

[Host]

Oh, boy. Neighbors, our children are feeling the pressure that we see states that are using state power as an apparatus of cruelty, quite honestly. And we know that, that these are communities that are always under risk. We know they have some of the highest suicide rates, attacks of hate crimes against them. And I think in Minnesota, reaffirming through the executive order that whether it be making sure our insurance companies are paying for what they need to pay for or making it clear that if you come to Minnesota, we will protect your rights, we are not going to extradite you or cooperate with states that are really trying to take away basic and in many cases life saving health care. So.

[Co-host]

And another stat, something that I was not aware of and some people have talked about this. We've never, ever, ever talked about the Catholic Church in a way that would incite violence or anything like that.

[Host]

Never.

[Co-host]

But there have been 500 attacks on Catholic churches since 2020. I did not. And that's in the United States. I asked, I was like, globally, this, that that's a disturbing trend, that Catholicism, I guess probably because it's one of the largest, easiest to recognize and identify church groups. And maybe there's some frustration over past sins. Who knows? I have no idea why, but either way it's completely unacceptable. But this is the whole point that we're talking about, well, 500 attacks in five. So you're averaging 100 attack one every 3ish days there's an attack on average on Catholic churches. I know I'm maybe a little off on my math, but I'm really close. One in every about three days.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Equally disturbing, if there was one bank robbery in every three days or whatever in three, we would be like, well, go there, go there and maybe post some people around there, maybe put an extra patrol around there, maybe maybe make sure that those people, in fact, if nobody Else conceals, carries. If those people conceal, carry that work there and that are there frequently and that are law abiding citizens and can own a gun and stuff, that would be the place to go. Have they, have the police been shouting that from on high? Have the notices gone out? Hey guys, remember the Nashville shooter? Hey guys, remember the. Hey guys, the churches, they've been attacked at a rate of about one every three days. Make sure that you're protected and safe.

[Host]

Yeah, what about. I don't know if it's.

[Contributor 1]

I was about to tee him up.

[Host]

Oh, sorry. What was that? I don't know if it's one every three days.

[Contributor 1]

It says 500 attacks since May 2020.

[Host]

Oh, okay. Is it since May 2020?

[Contributor 1]

365 days ago.

[Co-host]

Fact check my math. Five years, 500.

[Host]

Hold on, hold on.

[Co-host]

Five years, 500. That's 100 a year. 100. 365. I said I'm not far off. I know it's about one every three days. 100 a year. 365 days. So closer to one every four days.

[Host]

3.6 days.

[Co-host]

3.65 days.

[Host]

Tim, admonish. No, come on. Admonish.

[Co-host]

So one every three days.

[Host]

We don't just operate off nice and empathy. We got right leap year.

[Co-host]

No, but I mean, okay, so let's say it's one every seven days, once a week. One of these is going to be targeted.

[Host]

The point remains. We just like bullying you because you're large and scary. For those of you who are new, he benched six. He benched six times three plates without even doing it correctly the other day. He is absolutely a beast or a monster. I've said look, for those of you who are, and I think the soulless pit that is YouTube that has been enabled by a lot of conservatives who still want the Google dollar dollar bills. Y' all should probably hear this. The left wants to wave their magic wand and say let's just make sure there are no shootings. Well, that's never gonna happen. Okay, that's never going to happen. And so I'm not going to lie to you and say there's a solution societally. You can go and download the Three and Three podcast. As far as mass shootings, 94% of mass shootings occur in gun free zones, period. Half a million to over 2 million defensive uses of firearms every year compared to the low tens of thousands of homicides, period. They save far more lives than they take. That's it. Just to be clear. That's it. Just so you know, so if you're going to craft a plan, okay, let's use the data that we have available to us. I can't solve this societally, but you can, you can mitigate your risk. First off, carry a gun. Honestly, if you have not yet purchased a firearm that you are comfortable carrying, you don't have to be Rambo. Do it today. I want hellfire going back to give people at least a fighting chance. Just to be clear. Please do. The other thing is if you say, okay, 94% of mass shootings occur in gun free zone. That's the low number, by the way. Some numbers have been as high as 97%. Let's play it low. 90. Let's just say it was 90. There is no reputable study that says 90 or lower. Lowest I can find this, it's 94. Let's just say 90. Okay, you go. Okay, so 90%. These mass shootings, they occur where 90%. Oh, okay. And gun free zones. Okay, well I probably want to mitigate my time and certainly the time of my children in gun free zones. What's the most likely gun free zone for them to find themselves in? Oh wait, public schools where they spend nine hours a day. The majority of their formative years in childhood are in a gun free zone. Well, let's fix that.

[Contributor 1]

In a building that's not guarded and unlocked.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

Multiple entrances.

[Host]

Hey, here's what you can solve. Do you think that those kids would, and I know not everyone can do this. Do you think those kids would be safer at home with mommy and daddy and a big old dog with a gun? Think so. By the way, the left doesn't want you to homeschool. By the way, the left doesn't want you to have a gun in your household. Just to be clear. Let's just, let's just look. Let me ask you this. When they say we can solve it nationally, 400 million plus guns in the country, I don't know how many. 400 million something. Can you get rid of them all? No, I said this again. It's remedial for people who are on rumble premium. Hey you. How you answer this determines if you're a leftist or if you're a conservative. If you're a progressive or a conservative or a God fearing American, whatever term you want to use. Fix your city you live in New York, Austin, Dallas, Grand Rapids, Schenectady. Can you fix it? I'll give you double the amount of your city council. All your friends, they all agree with you. Fix your city. Make sure your city's safe. If I said you will be imprisoned for the rest of your life, only let out to make your city safe, with all the resources you could possibly ask for and the people you could want, could you make your city safe? Now? If I said make your home safe, think you could? I'm not going to sell you some bullshit on stuff you can't control. Sounds nice. It's great for a talking point, but there's a lot that you can control. Hey, you can have your kids at home. What's it worth to you for them to be safer? Still very, very small chances of them being the victim of a mass shooting. They're still unbelievably rare in the grand scheme of things, just to be clear. But still want to increase your odds. Okay, have them at home. Get an alarm system, get a dog, get a gun. Make sure you know who's coming in and out. Could you fix your. Could you make your city safe? Could you and all your friends with billions of dollars guarantee that you make your city safe? Can you make your home safe? Can you make it a lot safer? That's how you solve it in your life. If everyone did that. If every. If you. Right now, all of you but you just individually, I'm talking to you. If you go, you know what? Okay, homeschool pod. I'm going to change a little bit. Certainly not in a public school. I'm going to bring them home and I'm going to make the sacrifices necessary to ensure that we can have them in that environment. And I'm going to make sure it's safe. And I'm going to have an armed home with guns stored responsibly. Security systems, whatever it is, any measures you can possibly take. And I'm not saying nerf the whole world. I'm just saying, hey, if eight hours a day your kids are going to an exponentially more dangerous place. A public school, a gun free zone, and they're there for the majority of their day. And you changed one for thing, took them out. What's it worth to you also? The left will actively fight you to do that, by the way, because your kids won't be socialized, sure, they won't be socialized like the other mass shooters that we've seen. Anyone want your kids to be socialized in public schools? They seem more adjusted to you in 2025. Sorry, were you about to say something? No.

[Co-host]

So I just wanted to make sure. So we do have some more information coming out. We're able to translate some of these pages. We have some where. Apparently the shooter is talking about scouting the school, so just give us a few minutes and we'll get those to you. But before that, Barack Obama has weighed in. I know that you can imagine what he says so far. It didn't sound terrible, but I wasn't able to read the entire thing, so. We can't allow ourselves to become numb to mass shootings. What happened today in Minneapolis is heartbreaking. Michelle and I are praying. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. I was told reliably by your spokesperson, the thoughts. They don't want thoughts and prayers anymore. I'm sorry, I don't know if you got the Democrat memo or not, but thoughts and prayers are off the menu for today, apparently. But I go on. Prayers for the parents who lost a child or will be sitting at their hospital bedside after yet another act of unspeakable, unnecessary violence. What's gonna stop it?

[Contributor 1]

It's not unspeakable. They wanna speak about it.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

F Off clown.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 2]

Let's give gun to cartel.

[Co-host]

No, I mean, look, I think we've. On the right. We. We fully understand that there is no next step that they can say that would end this violence. And so my frustration is not just with that, it's with not even knowing the specifics of this situation. Right. We've talked about whether this gun was procured legally or not. Obviously having a bit of an arsenal there. Nothing crazy. I mean, people should be able to have that. Right. If this person bought those legally, then everything they say goes out the window. Background checks. They would have passed a background check, most likely. I don't think. Do we screen for somebody being trans and changing their name?

[Host]

Oh, you can't do that.

[Co-host]

I don't think we can do that. Right. We don't do that kind of stuff. Is there any other way? I mean, maybe they were underage, but they weren't when they bought it because they're 20, 23 or something like now. Right. About 23 years old. Is that the case? No. So what are you really talking about? You really don't have a.

[Host]

They don't have. No, I'll tell you. I'll tell you exactly what.

[Co-host]

I know where they're going.

[Host]

You're gonna trust the Democrats, right? Because I don't know if you know this, but after Columbine, there was a real push, senseless mass shootings. And we have to solve this. And you were gonna give up your rights and it was worth it for the greater good. And so the solution to Stop mass violence when they had. What they wanted was to make sure your rifle didn't have a pistol fucking grip. Right. Literally. Just to give you an idea, a rifle. By the way, all of these are unloaded. We've already shown this on air. I'm just showing you this picture. A rifle. Okay. I guess I'd be holding it this way. All right. Legal death ray. That's your assault weapons. Ben boy, wonderful work. What's your solution now? Doing the pistol grip thing, the point system where it could be black but it couldn't have a rail. Or it could have a rail but it couldn't have a pistol grip. What was that? What was the other solution? That's right. In California. We've never seen a mass shooting there. Would you call it the bullet button? Did that work? That work? It was a button that would make it really hard by the way, instead of. Instead of pushing this button here to. Oh, that's right. Tim is. Tim is a lefty. It was a button to make sure that you couldn't just press it to release a magazine quite as easily. So you could just use the tip of a bullet. And by the way, it could be easily replaced. And what was that? Oh, that's right. The 10 round magazine limits. People didn't just switch out those magazines. Use more of them or go one state over. Right. Oh, what's the next step? Making sure they can't get it any states over. Okay. And how's it going to affect the 400 million plus guns in circulation? So you need to do something. Well, what do you got? What do you got that that's better than make sure your rifle doesn't have a pistol grip. I'm all ears. You piece of shit.

[Co-host]

Yeah. All right, so I do have some more information. Again guys, this is us translating this. This is not anywhere that I've seen and I've been trying to follow this story as closely as I can online. So if you guys are seeing anything else that we are missing, please let us know. But this is from August 20th, I believe it's the last day that is in the book. But they can kind of correct me if I'm wrong here. So back focus my life. I'm so locked into the plan. Went to school this morning. Bunch of stupid people there. Performative routines. The teachers have been in the basement having their own training. I'm sure they briefly mentioned safety and active shooter training. I'm also sure they will not be expecting an attack during the first week of school. Lmao.

[Host]

Hold on. Stop Repeat that last line.

[Co-host]

I. I am, I'm sorry. I am also sure they will not be expecting an attack during the first week of school.

[Host]

I'm also pretty sure they're not going to be expecting attack. An attack. Why? Oh, gun free zone. Starting to see the reason for 94% of mass shootings and gun free zones. It's almost like, it's almost like the people who don't respect laws specifically target the place where you put your kids in for eight hours a day. And I know this isn't necessarily a public school and it took place in a chapel, but I'm saying gun free zones. It's almost like people go, hey, where are they least likely to expect someone to come in with a zone with a gun? I'm willing to get, willing to bet it's a gun free zone. Yeah, you see it all the time in these manifestos. It's not by accident. 94%. Anywhere else you'd say we notice a pattern here. Then again, anywhere else you would say a 40 plus percent attempted suicide rate where the only other contributing consistent variable is gender dysphoria. Me thinks me sees a pattern, but we're not allowed to do that because feminism. Because that's not nice. We want schools to become free.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

We want, we want people to be able to live their truth.

[Analyst]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Let me read the rest of it. So I still feel conflicted on whether to pull up there during the week. I'm sure someone will see me go from the car to the school. I'd prefer my odds of being seen by a staff member rather than anyone who could see me from. From the street. I'll go from the parking lot. Fake entry. Just got to pick the plan and stick to it. I took a look at the door channels. They're too far for handcuffs, but something like a two foot piece of lumber should work. So this goes back to when they gave the, the interview about, you know, the doors being wedged. The police chief, they were. Yeah, the police chief. Thank you. They were being. They were wedged from the outside.

[Host]

From the outside.

[Co-host]

So the kids could not evacuate from the school. This sick piece of crap. I'll go from parking lot entry door channels. So lumber should work. Even if it should be. Even if it should be quick. It's still a potential waste of precious seconds to put it in. God, I want to shoplift away some time before going to the mall before it opens. What a sample of filthy people. I feel like I hold my breath just being there and then goes on and kind of rants about a shirt they bought. Bought. But, I mean, there's. It's just. This is a very sick individual. Very, very, very sick individual that targeted a place that, I mean, think about like, okay, my mom worked there, volunteer there for five years, right? This person was 20 in 20.

[Host]

20.

[Co-host]

20, 21. So 2016. That's four years before you transitioned legally. Your name, at the very least, maybe there was a transition before that. Do you think you ever went there? You think you ever, like, participated in any services, like, to get to a point where you're just so mentally gone that you just want to kill everybody you can, especially children? That's just a different kind of evil. Having a beef with adults is a different thing. It's still evil. Don't get me wrong. I'm not justifying it at all. You're saying it's a much more understandable thing. An adult targeted children. You tried to make sure that kids that were up to, what, 10 years old? Is that what we estimated the age range? Roughly 10 years old would not be able to escape.

[Host]

Let me ask you, that sounds crazy to you? Radical, and I don't mean to insult you. How far of a cry would you say it is from a delivered baby being made comfortable while the mother chooses if it lives or dies, as per the quote from the then governor of Virginia, Ralph north, in which we were told never was spoken at the debates? Right. How far is it, in other words, if we have a culture that even gets close to the line of, wait a second, you're talking about a baby that could be born and is viable, by the way, over 10,000 a year of late term abortions, or as the left says, very, very rare, do you think maybe that is a slippery slope? Do you think the person who believes that to be acceptable with the justification of it's inconvenient for me, is more likely to waste human life than the person who says, every single hair on your head has been numbered and counted and I knew you in the womb before I formed you. Who do you think is more likely to waste human life? Now add that up with every single influence that we get being raised in this country outside of alternative sources like this. You starting to get the picture? Are you starting to put two and two together? A culture that says your happiness is worth more than the value of life. Your happiness is more important than the idea of purpose. Your happiness is more important than the idea of right and wrong. Oh, and by the way, if your happiness involves a born baby being thrown in a linen Basket. There are governors who will make that happen. People talk. We often talk about. Think about this for a second. You have people on YouTube or rumble. And the big concern from the left is don't platform this person. I've gotten that right. Don't platform Steven Crowder who believes in life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, don't do that. It's like, please, platforming a Nazi. Don't platform this extremist. What do you think happens as a society when you platform the idea of killing babies? What do you think happens when as a society you platform the idea of maiming your own body beyond repair based on non science? What do you think happens when you platform that as the mainstream view? Not only platform, but replace the worldview and faith that was the basis of our country with that platform. You want to tell me about some neo Nazi site with five members, three of whom have flippers? Right, let's talk about who's platforming what. Because here's the crazy thing. Those on the left, when you say, when you tell people that your happiness is more important than life, when you tell people out there that it's your body, therefore your decision and morality doesn't play into it, people believe you, people believe you. So it might be mean in saying, don't believe him, but don't really don't. Strong men, they're telling us not to pray. It's like, hey, you know, people remember, they cling to their Bibles and they cling to their religion and their guns. Remember that famous quote, they want to rip the Bible from it. Think the Bible is more someone who actually adheres to it, follows it. Think that Bible is more or less likely to give them a sense of purpose. Think that Bible is more or less likely to be, call it guiding light, universal force in determining right and wrong. And then if you don't have that Bible, rip fathers from them. No fault divorces. Two mommies are just as good. Single mother households. You go, you slay bae. Think that child is more likely or less likely to have a moral compass and be taught right from wrong and have a sense of identity. Trick question. We have every single statistic available to us that tells us households without fathers fare worse economically, physically, mental health wise, behavioral issue wise. Matter of fact, we have every piece of evidence and data available to us that children fare better in single father households than single mother households for this very reason. Rip that Bible. Fucking give me that Bible. You want a dad? Fucking give me that. We don't need that fucking dad. I would say before we get to SSRIs. Most important thing. Just me crazy here. Would be that Bible. Would be that dad. And would be the society that says, do what dad says because he mean what he say. He loves you, but he's not just nice. That's used as a cudgel to bring kids away from their father and send them to the state or if they're really lucky, flee to a state like Minnesota where dad can never find them or speak to them again. This isn't hyperbole.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Host]

State of Minnesota will literally help rip that child away from the parents. It's a missing child now. So long as they say I'm trans. Yeah. How do we get here?

[Co-host]

Well, there's more. So we've got. Just a couple of days ago, it looks like the Minnesota AG Keith Ellison. And at the DNC summer meeting, which I believe is happening in Minnesota. Right. In Minneapolis.

[Contributor 2]

It does have a Minneapolis flag on it.

[Host]

Ah, shit. I got water all over myself.

[Co-host]

All right, so we'll bring you a cloth here. But, yeah, let's play that video real quick.

[Host]

44 times, and we'll sue him. 44 more, and 44 more after that. And we. And we have sued him for gender affirming care. Yes. We are not going to scapegoat our transgender community. And we have sued them to stand up for medical research, national institute.

[Co-host]

Gender affirming care. Standing up for gender.

[Host]

Because cutting off your doesn't have the same ring to it, does it, fellas?

[Contributor 1]

That's my favorite movie growing up.

[Host]

But, honey, I cut off my cock. The Land Before Cocks.

[Contributor 1]

Homeward. But, you know, it's an animal movie alone. You should probably do that alone.

[Co-host]

Really quickly. I just. You know, we. I know we need, like, a bit of a break. Beverly Hills Cock was my favorite. Come on.

[Contributor 1]

But I'm a comedy man.

[Host]

And that one. There actually was no banana in the tail fight. There were none left on the left.

[Co-host]

All the bananas have been cut off. So just because you say you're on the right doesn't always mean you get it right.

[Host]

Oh, no.

[Co-host]

Let's play. And I'm.

[Host]

Hold on. Tell me.

[Co-host]

Hold on. I'm reading a quote from Trey Gowdy.

[Host]

Oh, geez.

[Co-host]

And if the quote is correct, then it seems like he's leaning a different direction there. Our system is reactive. Something bad happens, we react to it. And what people are crying for now is how can we prevent this? How can we stop it? And the only way to stop it is to identify the shooter ahead of time or keep the weapons out of their hands. And so we're going to have to have a conversation of freedom versus protecting children. I mean, how many school shootings does it take before we're going to have a conversation about keeping firearms out? It's always a young white male. Almost always. I mean, did anyone this morning wonder if that was a female? Yeah. Did any of y' all think that? I mean, there's.

[Host]

Yes. School shooting. I immediately thought, could it be trans? The shooter thought it was.

[Co-host]

Hey, time out. Technically, according to the rulebook of 2025 Democrats, it was a female.

[Host]

What is Gowdy?

[Co-host]

According to the shooter, Robin, what is Gowdy doing exactly?

[Host]

Whatever.

[Contributor 2]

Playing into it.

[Host]

Just, hey, you know, so isn't it so funny? Like, how many school shootings does it take until. Until we pull kids out of school? Until we say you can't have guns? What if you were an alien who landed on Earth right now, if you were a Spock who operated entirely off of logic, you went, how does this happen? Where do these shootings seem to occur? 94%. Jeez, that's shitty. In gun free zones. Okay, what's the problem? What's the risk? Well, you can't control all the entrances, the exits. There are too many people coming in and out. It's gun free, obviously. So you're basically sitting ducks. Okay, what can we control? First off, don't make it a gun free zone or a target, as is common nomenclature. And you can't really control in a giant school all of the exits and make sure that kids can get in and get out, and that still be feasible throughout a school day. But you know where you can do that? Most homes where you only have a front door and back door control a lot of variables. I know it's not a solution. I know, I know, I know you want to take our handguns away, but assuming we go with your premise, how many school shootings does it take? Assuming that we go with this idea that this is the only country where there are mass shootings, which is not true. And that there are more than ever before, which isn't true either. All right, solution. Don't put people in gun free zones and try and mitigate the risk, which you cannot do. And everyone knows this. The bigger a group of people get, the bigger the surface area gets, the more difficult it is to control.

[Contributor 1]

I don't understand his point that he's making there at the end because it seemed like he was presenting a problem then presenting a solution, talking about gun control. Well, we have to do something. How many until we do something. We have to do something. We have to have a solution. And it's always a white, young male. Oh, so you have a solution for that too, I'm guessing we didn't hear the rest of it, but.

[Host]

Right.

[Contributor 1]

I don't know why you had to bring that up. It's not even a statistical fact.

[Host]

Yeah. Well, the other thing is they also changed. We have this somewhere. The definition of mass shooting, where I think it's three or four. It's four now, including the shooter. And there's kind of a cutoff where there's a lot of gang violence that is right underneath that. You know, like two or three people or three or four people, not including the shooter, which maybe at one point in time would have been considered a mass free shoot. Would have been considered a mass shooting, but it's not. That's just inner city gang violence. So then you're left with only extreme outliers. And you can say it's white males, but even then, can someone bring up. We obviously have Nashville. We have this. How many other examples were there of deranged transgender shooters? Considering that it's less than 1% of population Earth, and that's a generous number, Pretty high percentage of the recent Massville mass shootings as you would define them. So even then, none of this holds water. Let me ask you this. What would it hurt in more people homeschool left? Can you give me an answer? Oh, you're saying some kids might be weird. What would it hurt if we brought back in a little bit of right and wrong, black and white, biblical teachings? Oh, some people might think there's homophobia.

[Contributor 1]

They've said what? What it would hurt. They've already said it. A big problem with school choice and big problem with homeschooling. And some people argue that homeschooled kids should get some type. Some type of funding from the government for their education as they're getting in public school, is that public schools get their funding oftentimes from the number of students attendance. So if you take a bunch of school kids out of school, their argument is, well, the less fortunate kids won't get an education because the school won't have the budget. What they really mean is there'll be less administrators.

[Host]

Yeah, they'd have less control.

[Contributor 1]

Because.

[Host]

Because.

[Contributor 1]

Because that's what I would do if I was in charge of the school and we got less funding. I would be like, well, what do we need this administrator for? These kids need an education.

[Host]

Right.

[Contributor 1]

Let's fire the administrator. Yeah, that's not what they would do. They go, oh, we keep the administrator and we complain that the kids aren't getting a good enough education. These kids in these poor neighborhoods or these kids whose parents have to work three jobs and can't afford to homeschool. They can't make it work, so they're suffering. We can't fire the administrators, we can't get rid of some teachers. We can't close down a few schools.

[Host]

Right. No.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah, we can't lose the funding.

[Host]

Right. And you know what's also crazy? Do you know who's most likely to be homeschooled? The underprivileged, lower middle class Americans who make it work. So maybe they shouldn't be footing the bill for your shitty public schools. Food for thought, you hedonistic, godless pieces of shit. Sorry, am I too intense today? That's okay. Okay, let's go. Let's just.

[Co-host]

No, I don't think you are. What are you talking about?

[Host]

I just, I'm just like. It's just so obvious how many times.

[Contributor 1]

He'S a little intense. He was. He was told he couldn't pray, so. Yeah, no, he's taking it all out here.

[Co-host]

I just don't want our prayers.

[Host]

Well, think about this. Is it that far of a leap from you? You know, we don't need your thought. Praying does nothing to. We're arresting you for praying in front of an abortion clinic. Uk in other words, like, it's not. I don't need a red yarn in a basement to connect the dots and see where they're headed. Is it crazy to say, hey, if Democrats had their way here in the United States, we'd be headed to Canada or Europe. What does that look like? Jailed for praying out in front of an abortion clinic. Can never own guns, ever. Roaming rape gangs. Right. Like it's euthanasia, one of the leading causes of death, depending on the quarter. Like, it's not that crazy for me to say, what would the left do in the United States if they had their way? And say, well, at least Europe or at least Canada. So I think it's pretty reasonable. You can comment below. I don't think you're being gas. I don't think. Sorry. Don't let the left gaslight you. I don't think you're being paranoid when you say, well, I'm kind of concerned that democrats here who share a lot in common with European socialists, want to take God out of everything and want to punish me for praying in front of an abortion clinic, as they do In Europe want to jail pastors for hate speech if they refuse to marry two dudes like they do in Canada and Europe. I don't think it's paranoia to say they want to take all my guns away like they do in Canada. I don't think it's paranoia. I think I see it happening elsewhere. And this is the last stronghold on earth where we've safeguarded against it. And by we, I mean largely white males. Just to be clear, white males, the only reason you are not Europe is still because of those, those old rednecks here in the United States. You know, working class white American males. That's a demographic that allows you to still own firearms, still homeschool, and not be jailed for praying out in front of an abortion clinic. There aren't, there aren't enough of any other demographic. And unfortunately, white women, the next largest or sometimes larger demographic, votes overwhelmingly Democrat. There's a split. Okay, so when I say the guardians, doesn't mean that they're better, doesn't mean that they're worth more or their life is more valuable. I mean the people who have ensured that this country is not socialist Europe. I was about to say something, but I can't say it on YouTube or homosexual. Canada is American. White males. You're welcome. Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's lean into that. Looks like they're reporting.

[Co-host]

Hey, there we go.

[Host]

Hey. Exactly two hours later.

[Co-host]

Let's go, let's go to them and see what they actually say.

[News Reporter]

Officials who have been briefed on the matter.

[News Anchor]

We are continuing to follow the latest details about this, this shooter. Apparently they targeted the Annunciation Catholic Church and school specifically trying to barricade people inside as they shot through the windows. Police say an 8 year old and a 10 year old are dead. At least two kids right now in the hospital in critical condition.

[Contributor 1]

I'm glad they didn't use the dead name.

[News Anchor]

And get you the latest on the identity of the shooter as well as potential motives and why this took place.

[Host]

Okay, as soon as we. So look, they're taking a quick break. I want to be there when we come back. I really have to pee tinkle. How's that for a straight white male? And just so you know what they just covered, they now have access to what you have access to. By the way, you're welcome. Please consider joining up. We are the originators of a lot of this information. Just to be clear, they've seen it. They've seen the rainbow flag, they've seen the Jew gas thing. They've seen the demon, they've seen the writings. I guarantee you they have far more money about, I don't know, 50 times the budget that we do, way more. But they omit it. And I know they're looking into something. You can let me know, give me an update. I do have to pee.

[Co-host]

Do we want to go tinkle? Yeah, just go tinkle real quick. I'll go through a list of some of these shootings. So there are lists floating around there of all the different shootings or events that have happened that have been either trans or some LGBTQ identifying thing, but don't believe necessarily all of them, but there are some that are trustworthy. So Colorado Springs, non binary identified. We've got Denver 2019, it was female to male. Aberdeen, Maryland, was trans. Iowa school shooter was reportedly gender fluid. We obviously know about this shooter right now being trans. We also know about the Nashville shooter being trans. So looking at these, there does seem to be some kind of a trend here. And listen, I think it's, it's worth asking, you know, Josh, like, if you're looking at these statistics, why wouldn't this be something that you talk about just like white.

[Contributor 1]

Because it is dangerous to say. Well, just to say, well, there's a trend. Well, there's a trend going. There's a trend because they have said that about white men. And that is a point. There is a trend about white men committing crimes like this. But the difference between these two groups is that one of them is a majority of the population and the other.

[Co-host]

One is a super minority, tremendous minority.

[Contributor 1]

Stephen said less than 1% of the Earth's population. I, I don't know if that's accurate to America's population. I don't know what the statistics is on that.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

But it would be shocking if you included that. Like, this is a dangerous trend. This is something to watch out for because it is such a small portion of the population committing these crimes.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

And we have statistics, statistics on the suicide rate, attempted suicide rate, successful suicide rate.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

And we're told that we're supposed to care about that.

[Co-host]

And pre transition and we're transition.

[Contributor 1]

And that's the reason why we're supposed to approve of these things. That's the reason why Governor Walls, the governor of Minnesota comes out and says, hey, this is a sanctuary state for these kids because it is a life saving health care coverage. Because we don't want them to kill themselves. Because they, because they have this tendency. He won't say violent tendency. Even though Suicide is violence.

[Co-host]

It comes down to a prioritization. Right, so you're right. They won't say. And listen, I'm not looking for them to say something that isn't factually accurate. I'm not looking for them to make connections that don't exist. Like, you know, it must be white, so it must have been a white supremacist. Right? That's typically what they would go to. I think what I'm looking for is just honesty across the board. If it is a white supremacist, let's say that. If it's a black supremacist, let's say.

[Contributor 1]

That A lot of these shootings, by the way, you said the white supremacy thing, and they were. They were able to say that for so long because their was no alternate media. There was no new media covering these things. They were able to go, okay, we can pick and select which. Which shootings, which stories we're gonna cover, which ones we're gonna plaster all over the television sets across America. And now they don't get the liberty of doing that because we have people like us, people like Mud Club Undercover. There's other. There's other programs out there that are doing similar things now. They have to. They have to. They can't ignore it, is what I should say. And like, half of those, at least half of those shootings we just saw from Libs of TikTok Page, I had never heard of them.

[Co-host]

Yeah, shooting, stabbings, I think there's some as well, some arson, different crimes. Listen, if this person had a MAGA hat on, do you think we would have heard about it from the media?

[Contributor 1]

Immediately.

[Co-host]

Immediately. And so I'm not, I'm not doing. It would have been immediate going, like, well, what about. They would have do that? I'm like saying, listen, listen, if there was some kind of an identifier, if there was some kind of thing that made this person unique or identified them with a certain group or something, the media would have absolutely run to that. They would have absolutely run to that. And I just. I hope you guys see this more clearly now. Two hours go by, two hours with our team, and we're really good at this. We have a very, very small, but very, very good, gifted team of people that work on this. Thank God for my club for that, right?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

But you're telling me that cnn, over two hours, with all of the resources that they have, can't do it.

[Host]

Okay, let's see what they actually say right now. Cnn, they're back.

[News Reporter]

Profoundly saddened to learn about the shooting. The statement going on to say that he sends his heartfelt condolences and the assurance of spiritual closeness to all those affected by this terrible tragedy. Wait, cnn, especially the families.

[Contributor 1]

It's okay for the pope to pray?

[Host]

Well, I don't think he said pray, said spiritual closeness.

[News Reporter]

The first American leader of the Catholic Church.

[News Anchor]

We want to get a different perspective on the impact of this shooting on, on the children and families so angry affected by this with a child psychiatrist now. She's the author of Reset your child's brain. Dr. Victoria Dunkley.

[Host]

Hopefully bring up child psychiatrist, the certificate of transitioning the name. That would be relevant, wouldn't it, that.

[News Anchor]

The victims have endured more victim side.

[Co-host]

Of it than anything else.

[News Anchor]

Kids and three adults now being treated. I wonder though, what this does to such a young mind being exposed to such violence right in their faces, right in front of them.

[Child Psychiatrist]

Yeah. So kids, different kids will handle trauma differently. Obviously this is, you know, one of the worst things imaginable that a child could be exposed to. And it's not just, you know, initially I was thinking it's, it's similar to a child who's exposed to war experiences. But this is worse because it's so unexpected and out of the blue in a place where they thought they would be, they were safe and sacred and, you know, all of those things.

[Host]

How many times are going to war?

[Child Psychiatrist]

Just the sheer, I think they mean like, you know, Ukrainian kids is traumatic in addition to what actually happened. So kids who were obviously who were close by and saw things, felt things, had a somatic. Will have a somatic memory of it. Those kids are going to have trauma, but other kids will have trauma, too. If they were nearby or knew these other children.

[Host]

Didn't CNN say they were going to come back and cover some breaking details? Didn't they go into the. Well, they wouldn't go into the break.

[Co-host]

We're going to talk to you about the shooter. Well, they came back and talked about this. They may go to the shooter here in a second.

[Host]

Well, the point is psychologist who has a ph. So they can tell us that kids, when faced with the prospect of being shot, might have trauma. Thanks for the insight.

[Contributor 1]

Well, the point is that Tresemme will make your hair look amazing. And we'll be right back after this break.

[Host]

It will. It will. And the exact words they used were.

[Contributor 2]

Talk about the shooter's identity.

[Host]

Yeah, that's what they said. Right. Good memory, Noodles. All that metal has done your brain well. See all that Nordic metal. But you're not going to shoot anybody, Right?

[Contributor 2]

Not unless they ask for it.

[Host]

Okay. All right. I'll make sure to no longer write that note to you with my breakfast. You know, please shoot me.

[Contributor 1]

Give a Craigslist ad out looking for.

[Co-host]

People who want it, who wants a piece.

[Contributor 2]

I can't be the only one that puts themselves in these situations. Every time they see him on tv and just like, what. What would I do if that was my kid and everything? I just sit here and dwell.

[Host]

I have said this. Yeah, I have said this. And it was used in court against me to save my child's life. Either one. I would kill, steal, lie, cheat, maim, whatever it takes. And you shouldn't respect me if I give you any answer other than that.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I mean, to your point, I literally just text my wife, like, hug the kiddos extra tight, you know, picking them up from school.

[Child Psychiatrist]

We want.

[Host]

Well, you haven't.

[Child Psychiatrist]

When someone's talking. I mean, often these shooters have talked about it in some way. Yeah, online or with friends or whatever.

[Host]

Correct.

[Co-host]

It's almost like a manifesto.

[Contributor 1]

Like, we need to know that information.

[Child Psychiatrist]

When other people say something. And alert authorities. Alert adults. 988 is the crisis hotline for not just suicide, but other crises as well. So alerting authorities, what other kinds of crises?

[Host]

I would also argue that they are alerted when this person tried to change their name and identity.

[Child Psychiatrist]

You do hear something.

[Co-host]

Seems like that would be the first indication.

[Child Psychiatrist]

But I think also, you know, we're getting better at kind of flagging these individuals.

[Host]

Are you?

[Child Psychiatrist]

Then what?

[Host]

So gender dysphoria. First. Number one flag. Number one flag. Gender dysphoria, the one that was listed as a mental illness through the DSM 4 until the DSM 5 decided to do some wordplay and say it's not actually a mental illness, it's actually a condition. It's the symptoms associated with the condition of being born into the wrong body, which has no scientific basis and comes along with more comorbidities than any other psychiatric illness. And a 41 to 42% attempt to suicide rate, whether pre op or post op. Is that your number one flag? In other words, if a time traveling Jew from Treblinka came into your office, they would be at less risk of self harm, even knowing they had to go back in the DeLorean than a transgender in the United States in 225. What's your number one flag, sweetheart? And these people are in charge of your medical institutions and they wonder why you don't trust them.

[Child Psychiatrist]

And also teaching children to like, include Others too. I think a lot of the social media stuff that's going on with bullying and it's creating this whole culture, antisocial behavior. And also we know that people are young people are developing with less empathy. Like empathy developers affected is being undermined. Obviously not everyone's gonna go on to be a shooter, but we know that empathy scores have been dropping. So figuring out how to have more face to face time, more eye contact with people, it's not just about trying to get more mental health resources in there.

[Contributor 1]

Although that maybe when they're kicked out of school and you literally said, fuck your freedom. Yeah, maybe that had some contribution.

[Host]

No, they said fuck your freedoms.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah, they said it like that.

[Host]

By the way you talk about empathy, I know what they're trying to say because, oh, people are, you know, identity. Let me ask you, who's less likely to have empathy? The person who says, hey, no, no, no, no, no, we love you, but we're not going to perform this life altering maiming surgery or give you these mind altering hormones because we think you're going to grow out of it like 98% if we do nothing. Is that person more or less empathetic than the people who say, don't listen to them, they're literally Nazis. Why do you think we have an empathy problem? Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

Is that, is that what she meant by bullying?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

Did you mean, you know, people at school telling them, oh, your dad's a Nazi. Yeah, I saw online that your dad's a Nazi. Yeah, we punch Nazis around here.

[Host]

Right? You know, it's funny, they make it seem like in the movies they'll, they'll show a storyline where it's a bunch of, you know, homophobes who are like, you're queer, gon kill you. You know, as though that's common. But what is common is everywhere. I don't know if you know this if you've watched any World War II movie ever. We all cheer the killing of Nazis. We don't all cheer as a society the killing of gays and certainly not anyone that I know, but we do all cheer the killing of Nazis. And so what's more dangerous, saying hey, queer or hey, actual Nazi? Assuming again, someone actually believes what you say, like, I don't know, a mentally disturbed individual who might not be able to decipher fantasy rhetoric from reality. What do you think is more dangerous? Convincing a mentally ill person that someone is gay or convincing a mentally ill person that someone is literally Hitler. Who do you think is more likely to be the victim of violence. In which case, do you think the mentally ill person might justify it more? By the way, I do want to say this just for the record so that no stone left unturned. Seems this shooter, this person, said they were a fan of Brandon Herrera who's been on the show. Really? Yeah. And something about like, you know, so I just want you guys. It doesn't mean anything. By the way, we do know that this person transitioned people who are crazy to have crazy views. Like we said, there's going to be the totality of evidence. And there is a huge contingency of liberals who still are pro gun. I would say that's probably the single biggest crossover issue for different reasons. For us, it's because freedom. For them, it's because they think they need their guns to defend against literally Hitler. So it doesn't surprise me, but I just don't want anyone to be caught off guard or to see someone online going, this person's a conservative because they liked Brandon Herrera and so that they should run for president. It's like, yeah, okay, but this person also had a juke ass pepper bomb, so.

[Contributor 2]

And killed.

[Host]

I know.

[Contributor 1]

So I know so many liberals who love their guns.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

And they don't. And it's not for the reason of killing Nazis or whatever.

[Host]

There are plenty.

[Contributor 1]

It is the biggest crossover.

[Host]

Kill Trump Now. That's right. Kill Trump now is on the optic. Also really weird that it said wrong city, fuck optics, and it was on an optic. I still don't know what to mention.

[Contributor 1]

That is funny.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

That's the least confusing part about this individual.

[Host]

It's like maybe it's.

[Contributor 1]

Maybe they didn't put batteries in it.

[Host]

Yeah, that could be it. They're just.

[Contributor 1]

There's no battery.

[Host]

Taking it out on the optic.

[Contributor 1]

Or they took out the fiber. You know the fiber optic?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

It could be they took it out.

[Host]

It'd be like me with frosting writing on my toaster strudel in the morning. Fuck strudels. Hey, hey.

[Contributor 1]

He's trying to quit.

[Co-host]

Nothing wrong.

[Host]

You could have written anything else.

[Contributor 1]

This is an addiction problem at the core.

[Host]

I don't know why my parents, I. I must have just. I must have just bombarded them non stop where my dad allowed me to for a period of time. Eat toaster strudels for breakfast.

[Co-host]

I ate pop tarts for breakfast for a long time.

[Host]

Toaster strudel.

[Contributor 1]

Remember toaster scrambles?

[Co-host]

No.

[Contributor 1]

My parents would get those. We'd ask for toaster strudels, we'd get toaster scrambles. Oh, they were the same exact thing. No frosting. But it would have like some of kind, kind of egg byproduct and some kind of fake bacon faking.

[Host]

That's still probably better than pure sugar. And let's put frosting on top of it.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah, definitely, definitely. But there was definitely sugar in that pastry.

[Host]

And the competition. If you look at the way the cereals, they would denigrate other cereals like Pop Tarts. Toaster had an ad. Pop Tarts. It's like, screw those guys. Look at that. They only have 300% of your daily allotment of refined sugar. We got 500,000. That's for gays. Get more sugar in you right away. Hey, don't you wish that your pop Tart had extra frosting and you could decide how much, by the way, we're gonna put two extra packets of frosting in the box that don't match up with the strudel. You decide what you do with it.

[Contributor 1]

And at the end of the commercial, they go part of a healthy breakfast and they'd show the toaster strudels, both of them. And then, and then a glass of milk, a glass of orange juice, bowl of cereal. It's like one hard boiled. What's sumo kid, are you raising?

[Host]

Was it part of this balanced breakfast?

[Contributor 1]

Part of this balanced breakfast.

[Host]

Balance it out. It's huge, but it's balanced.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah, we had to add some protein in there.

[Co-host]

Not part of a balanced diet.

[Host]

No, not part of a balanced diet.

[Co-host]

You want to get all 2,000 calories in one sitting.

[Host]

But trust your institutions. You should be eating at least 6 to 1500 servings of refined grains every day.

[Contributor 1]

Part of a balanced breakfast. If you don't eat any other meals for the rest of the week.

[Co-host]

Listen, we're going to give them another chance.

[Host]

I know, I know. CNN's gonna cover it. They're gonna cover the rainbow and the trans thing.

[Co-host]

They're gonna.

[Host]

I know.

[Contributor 1]

They said walls is coming up too.

[Host]

I know it, I know it.

[News Anchor]

Press conference just minutes from now following a deadly shooting at a Catholic school in Minneapolis. The church sanctuary this morning filled with children attending their first mass of the school year when a shooter opened fire on them from outside.

[Co-host]

You have the chance, guys. Do the right thing.

[News Anchor]

And 10 year old we understand were killed. Police say 17 other people were injured, 14 of them also just children.

[News Reporter]

Just a short time ago, police identified the shooter who targeted the school as 23 year old Robin West.

[Host]

Thanks, Kojak.

[News Reporter]

Police say the shooter died from a self inflicted gunshot wound. Harrowing Stories now emerging, children saying they were cowering under pews.

[Host]

Here's the thing. Obviously, I understand human interest is in the foreground and data is in the background, because often people don't follow data or stats. They follow people. So I understand that it's an effective tool. They are now choosing to cover the anecdotal in the complete absence of the factual of what it is that we know. Which, again, we got this hours ago, and it's been all but confirmed to the best that we know of through local media since then. By the way, thank you so much. That's you. Mug Club Rumble Premium. If you're not a member, please consider joining. When you don't want us to keep doing this, we'll go away. We'll keep doing it. As long as you keep the lights on. They're doing it. In the absence of that. How much you want to. Let me. Let me distill this. Let me be reductive. How much you want to bet that we would know right now if this prick was a registered Republican?

[Contributor 1]

Yeah, they don't want you to know. They're doing the thing like Woody did from Toy Story when he's doing the announcements, all the. Good announcement, good announcement, good announcement. And then, ooh, and by the way, Andy's part of the move to today.

[Host]

Yep.

[Contributor 1]

Like, we're not gonna. Like we're not gonna notice two days from now when you go, oh, by the way, the shooter was one of us, so.

[Host]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Are they.

[Co-host]

Are they doing it now? Are they bringing in somebody else to say it?

[Analyst]

Shooting along with a book and different notes. But one of them is particularly telling in that it says, I have waited for this for so long. I am not well. I am not right. I am a sad person, haunted by these thoughts that do not go away. I know this is wrong. And he goes on to describe that the action he is going to take against this world before taking his own.

[Host]

I want to see if they correct.

[Analyst]

Him, which is not uncommon in these incidents, these active shooter scenarios, where you see someone who reports to be in. In pain, in trauma, and that they write all of this out and leave it behind with the foreknowledge that what they're about to do is going to end their own life as well, while taking these strangers, these innocent people with them in the process. But investigators are going back through this material and a lot of other material, trying to determine motives. So what do we know? I mean, what we know, if this, in fact, is from the shooter, that his motive was he was in pain. But what we don't see here, and there's more to go through, is what was. What was the shooter Robin Westman in pain about?

[Host]

Specifically, what was Robin's name? Hey, did Robin have any other names? You just said what we know. Did Robin have a different name? Can you answer me that? Was it Robert? Why did change? Is that kind of pivotal?

[Contributor 1]

And were they strangers or did his mom work there? Were they strangers? Or did he have a detailed idea of what the place looked like by being in there multiple times?

[Host]

Do you have any idea how 20 years ago, what an event it would be if you went to school with Robert Westman and you found out just in your little social circle, let alone on national news, they go, oh, no, you mean Robin. You'd go, what? Roberts, Robin, tell me everything. What do we know? A little name change, gender change there, but really, it seems to be. Whoa, hold on. Go back to that. It's just.

[Co-host]

Is he. Is he clarifying?

[Contributor 1]

What does he think he's Batman's sidekick?

[Host]

Let's. Yeah.

[Analyst]

He uses two by four, four wooden planks to bar the doors of the church from the outside to keep people from fleeing as an effort to maintain containment. As he fires repeatedly through the windows of that building, which he knows and can see is full of children. The idea of showing up 15 minutes after.

[Host]

Isn't Robin usually a woman's name?

[Contributor 1]

It goes both ways, really.

[Analyst]

Indicates he's been studying that location, waiting for this event and bringing equipment that he needed to achieve maximum lethality, as much killing as he could, which takes time and planning. So one could estimate at least weeks, if not longer.

[Contributor 1]

There's a possibility that there, you know, maybe there's a. An issue with hating. Like maybe he's named after his father or something. Hates his dad wanted to change his name but didn't change his gender. I. Very unlikely, though, especially with the mirror thing and the nails and the stickers, the LGBT stuff. But it's crazy that they're not putting.

[Host]

Two together here for who that was.

[Analyst]

What the target was going to be.

[Host]

Well, we're looking into that. If he changed his name because he hated his father's name, that too would be relevant.

[Contributor 1]

Sure, sure. I'm guessing it's a transgender type thing.

[Co-host]

The dad's name is James, and it was on the petition as non petitioning.

[Analyst]

Parent carry out this horrific act. Or did he have some technical setup, and we've seen that before as well, where it was automatically posted at a time when he thought he would be in progress. Or finished.

[News Reporter]

All right, John Miller, thank you so much for the the very latest there. We do appreciate it. And we're joined now by the former Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis and former Secret Service agent Jonathan Wack Row. Ed, to you first. We are looking here at what happened today. What is standing out to you as we're now learning more about the shooter?

[Host]

Name change, gender change, giant rainbow flag gas, the juice. These are kind of big things.

[Expert Guest]

Striking thing, especially targeting children. There just doesn't seem to be anything off limits anymore. So that's extremely troubling. John did some great reporting there talking about these posts and they were probably done at the last minute. But gender wrong day and age, whether we can't have algorithms on social media outlets that would alert people to this type of posting immediately. There's a lot of things that are being done.

[Host]

I how much you want to bet those algorithms scream screen for someone who likes guns and not for someone who's mentally deranged and thinks they're a different gender? How much you want to bet that's what happens with those algorithms?

[Expert Guest]

That young boy that was speaking, the fifth grader, that that is a traumatic experience for him. And I can remember in dealing with a bunch of different tragedies in the city of Boston, the victim witness advocates and the the efforts made by the mayor's office after the marathon to help the people deal with the psychological and physical trauma that occurs to this, you cannot underestimate that. And then the third thing is copycats. You always worry about copycats in a situation like this. I can remember convening all of our bureau heads after an incident happened in another part of the country and getting out to be preventive at synagogues or universities or other places, we have to pay close attention to this.

[Contributor 1]

Like gun free zones.

[Host]

Yeah.

[News Anchor]

And Jonathan, when you think about the fact that the shooter clearly meditated on what they were targeting and wanting to inflict damage on people, as John Miller cited in these social media posts that are believed to be belonging to the 23 year old shooter. I'm not. Well, I'm not.

[Host]

Right.

[News Anchor]

There's clearly some conflict when they say I know this is not right. A church.

[Host]

By the way, if CNN is an originator of information and you cite it as though it's your own, they sue you, just so you know. But they don't want to send you our way because then you'll see the name change in the rainbow flag and LG protect lgbtq. So it's okay when they do it.

[Contributor 1]

Also leaving out stuff if they found that much from the journal they found.

[Host]

They looked at the stuff that we did. Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

About how they wanted to see the Gore and do it themselves.

[Host]

And remember the mayor of net when this happened with Nashville, the mayor of Nashville and the MNPD said they were going to sue us. The FBI was going to investigate us the exact same scenario, only they managed to keep it from ever getting out. So we were quicker to the punch this time. When we found it later on, they targeted us, which means they're targeting you. Because now when this happens, anyone would start noticing a pattern or a trend they don't want you to because that would keep you safe.

[Secret Service Agent]

All show that this individual had moved fully from those previous stages of violent the pathway to violence, into really the execution of the attack.

[Host]

The.

[Secret Service Agent]

The key takeaway here, Boris, is that at every earlier stage in this pathway of violence, there are warning signs that can be recognized and then act live. If you think about behavior is really a continuum, like this individual didn't just wake up this morning and say I'm going to go kill all these children and attack this church in school. There was multiple warning signs along this behavioral continuum that we as a community need to actually learn how to identify and and engage in early intervention around behavioral issues so we don't get to that final stage of the attack. John Miller's point earlier around these videos in this communication. Research from the Secret Service National Threat Assessment center has proven this. Over 75% of the time when we study these mass attacks concerning communication was made previously by the attacker, whether in the moments before, maybe in this instance. But also things in their digital history, their postings also conveyed this concerning communication prior to the attack. We as a community have to get better at identifying those signals and then again working collaboratively to prevent these tragic acts from happening.

[News Reporter]

Yeah, such a good point that you raised there, Jonathan. Ed, maybe you can kind of expand on that because as we heard police say, not an extensive criminal history. That doesn't mean there aren't data points.

[Host]

Right.

[News Reporter]

That are obvious. And I think investigators are expecting that as they delve into this they're probably going to find those.

[Host]

So indicators.

[Co-host]

Indicators like what indicators like public records. He she confusion.

[News Reporter]

Who in the would that be one and how can we be making sure that they're taken seriously isn't just kind of amazing.

[Co-host]

They're dancing around this.

[Host]

Here's the thing, like we told you a this that was very straightforward. This could be someone who's trolling because they have defend lgbtq. You see that sticker they have a demon in the mirror. They have a Jugas thing on the smoke bomb. They have a Fuck Trump thing. So this does seem to be someone who's mentally disturbed. And maybe they're just trying to put this out there to throw people off of the scent. But isn't it kind of crazy that, you know cnn, because by the way, these pages were seen in the video that they saw the exact same thing that we showed you, and they want you to believe that nothing stood out. Like, I understand. They could just say, like, hey, by the way, the LGBT and the Fuck Trump. But it also seems like this person. Insert whatever form of balance here. But would anyone think if you saw all that, that the only notable thing was someone saying, I am not well?

[Contributor 1]

Yeah, that's the least notable.

[Host]

If you're a cop, you go, okay. You go, okay. I'm not well. Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah, that's obvious.

[Host]

Wait a second. Well, this is pertinent.

[Contributor 1]

It's almost like they tried to humanize him a little bit by saying he knows it's wrong. He knows it's wrong. They won't say the part where he goes, maybe some fourth graders will fight back, and that'll be even better.

[Host]

Yeah. LMAO are showing all the things written on the weapons and the stickers. And what? Like, if you're a detective, you look at, you go, well, okay, this is something that is unique to this situation. That is atypical. That is something we didn't expect to find. This might be what they would refer to as a lead.

[Co-host]

Unbelievable.

[Contributor 1]

Someone called Nash Bridges.

[Co-host]

I really wanted to see that because it's. It's like they are right there. They're right there. What can we expect along this chain, along this planning chain? It's like, okay, planning.

[Host]

Okay. Okay.

[Co-host]

You can even do this. Mom worked there. I didn't hear that. Worked. Volunteered was a part of that church in some kind of way, according to their Facebook account. Unless there are two people with the exact same name that go to that small church.

[Host]

Yep.

[Contributor 1]

There's an association, regardless.

[Co-host]

Yeah. So you didn't even have that to say, Any kind of an indication of what's going on in these videos that you're talking about? Any. Anything that you're gonna look for name change, like, none of that stuff like that is pertinent information.

[Host]

Translate. Do they even mention that?

[Contributor 1]

No, they didn't.

[Host]

They won't show it.

[Co-host]

No, he's not gonna. Yeah, he just. He just read off some stuff, and.

[Contributor 1]

I'm like, take our word for it.

[Co-host]

There's no known. You know, we don't really know. Just angry and upset and wanted to inflict damage. Why? Why there? Yeah, Any connection?

[Contributor 1]

It's irresponsible to not to not mention the mother, in my opinion, because we don't know. She's a good person.

[Host]

Right.

[Co-host]

She could be in on it too.

[Contributor 1]

This guy got the gun somewhere.

[Co-host]

Yeah, maybe on their own. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

[Contributor 1]

Who knows? She could be a threat.

[Host]

She could be.

[Contributor 1]

She raised one, for Christ's sake.

[Contributor 2]

Yeah, I mean, based on the writings and everything, he's very apologetic to the family and saying that they. They're not to blame for this and everything, but who knows?

[Co-host]

Sure.

[Host]

But it would. It's still a relevant situation that his mom works at the. Or was a volunteer, served at the church.

[Contributor 1]

If it were me, they'd be like. And his father's a police officer at Las Vegas Metro.

[Host]

Yeah. Here's his patrol route.

[Contributor 1]

Go say hello.

[Host]

They'd be calling every bunny ranch within. I know there's only one, but you know what I mean. They'd be calling every house within an 8 mile radius. Anyone, you know, Josh's dad or house, outhouse, hen house, morehouse, outhouse, 10 house, trans house, everything. I didn't cut off my clock. I don't care.

[Co-host]

True.

[Host]

Let's grab some chats and. Did they send confirmation? Did I.

[Co-host]

As far as they didn't send confirmation, but they're looking into it on me.

[Host]

Yeah, they should be able to just check that really quickly. Otherwise, tell Johnny boy to do it. He can do it.

[Co-host]

Yeah, they're working on it right now they have to say.

[Contributor 2]

Yeah, okay, let's see. Chat from the car. Dude, one question. Do you guys think this might cause armed church members at the doors during services?

[Host]

I know some already do. I'd like to see more of it.

[Contributor 1]

We had. There was a report of one earlier this year.

[Host]

That's right.

[Contributor 1]

This guy tried to drive his car through or something like that. Yeah, he tried to drive his car through.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

And he was shot.

[Host]

That's right.

[Contributor 1]

By multiple. Multiple.

[Host]

Armed. There's someone who went in with their. With their child or grabbed a child as a shield. Right. Wasn't that what it was? There was something where there's crossfire.

[Co-host]

Details. I do remember.

[Host]

I think it was Houston.

[Co-host]

I think it was in Texas. I was gonna say that, but I.

[Host]

Don'T know where it was in Texas. They were stopped pretty quickly.

[Co-host]

Oh, wait, didn't. There was a. There was a church shooting at what's. What's the guy's big, big Church in Joel Osteen's church.

[Host]

Yeah, that's.

[Co-host]

That's the one you're thinking of.

[Host]

I think that's what I'm thinking of. Someone came in and I believe they had their child with them or used a. Or grabbed a child as like a human shield and got shot for their troubles. Anyway. Yeah.

[Co-host]

Well, that's good.

[Host]

So. Yeah, I hope so. And by the way, for those of you who are new, we take chat every day usually. This is on Rumble Premium Mug Club, so you can join up and talk with us.

[Co-host]

But only Rumble Premium people get to chat.

[Host]

Yeah, we don't do super chats and stuff like that. It's just we, I mean, it's not.

[Co-host]

Like we don't love you. We just. Yeah, we just, we like, we love every.

[Host]

There's so many of you that we, you know, we, we talk with them.

[Co-host]

There are favorites.

[Host]

There are some churches that do it and I would encourage more. All right, next chat.

[Contributor 2]

Next chat from Swampy Rumbles Question. What is the morally Christian way to deal with these increase in super suicides, including those by cop or those who choose to do a shooting as their last act?

[Co-host]

I don't know what they mean by that because if, if their last act is being performed like the morally Christian way to deal with it, I mean, the Christian way to deal with it honestly is to tell people the truth about their sin. Like, I mean, let's just be very straightforward. Like telling people they can live a life that is apart from God first and foremost is a very bad idea. Then telling them that they can live a life apart from reality on top of that is also a very bad idea because they will never find people peace or happiness or joy in that. And in some ways that won't necessarily manifest in somebody going crazy and shooting up or even being insanely depressed, but the statistics are very high that it will, right?

[Host]

Yep. That is correct. You do it all the way. It doesn't need to change. Is it right? Is it wrong? The good news is that you have a pretty clear textbook to tell you whether it is or not. And I don't know how you argue right from wrong without it anything. Let me just see. Give them. I'm going to give him one last chance and then take a few chats. CNN do the right thing.

[News Reporter]

Young children in a lot of these cases ranging from pre kindergarten to eighth grade. And as the mayor of Minneapolis points out, they were praying at the time this happened. Their sanctuary now a crime scene.

[Host]

All right, okay, we've seen him enough. Let's grab a couple more.

[Contributor 1]

He got his sound clip. Good for him.

[Host]

Yeah, I did.

[Contributor 2]

All right, next chat From Pedro, the Mexican 15.

[Host]

Hi Pedro.

[Contributor 2]

Question for the crew. Could Trump close down gun free zones and federalize the right to bear arms everywhere nationwide? How can you outlaw a given right anywhere on US land?

[Host]

I understand that, but no, he wouldn't be able to do that. And sometimes you'll get this too. For example, when I've done live shows, stand up shows, it is very different because the venues don't allow guns. And so I would go in with Gay William and say, well, either everyone, everyone with a permit should be allowed to or you have to have metal detectors to screen for guns. But it's got to be one or the other because otherwise you, my fans coming are going to follow the law and not going with their firearms and people who don't care will. So there's a very different scenario, by the way, where if you have thousands of people aiming one direction, where one person is on stage and completely blind, that's not the same as a general social area. Right. You can plan for it and target somebody. So I understand the need to be limitations in very rare instances, for example, not allowing people with firearms who cannot be when it's too large an event, right up to the stage of let's say Donald Trump. So no, I don't know that he can. But I do think that as a general rule also as understanding it's not really enforceable. A lot of places if you have the right to carry and they put a sign that's posted and says no, you can't here, and it's just, let's say a restaurant or someplace where you would otherwise be allowed to carry it.

[Contributor 1]

That it's depends on the state. There are laws like for instance in a lot of states have the same law. But in the state of Washington, you are not allowed to carry a firearm. In a establishment that sells alcohol, it's.

[Host]

Usually over 50%, over 50% of the revenue comes from alcohol.

[Contributor 1]

Maybe that's a different state. I know in Washington it's not allowed at all.

[Host]

Okay.

[Contributor 1]

If they serve alcohol, you are not allowed.

[Host]

So here in Texas or some other states, let's say it's an Applebee's or something like that, where the bulk of the revenue is made off of food. But they also happen to have a bar you're allowed to carry in a restaurant. But if it's primarily a bar, and again there's some gray area there. But I also understand that. I understand the idea and there's a long standing precedent of that where if people are going into a bar just to drink, okay, you leave your guns at the door. But I also do think that it's my understanding is that it's often a guideline if it's somewhere else where there would be a reasonable expectation of being allowed to carry. As far as could Donald Trump do that? The pragmatic answer is no, that's not going to happen. But I understand and largely agree with the sentiment.

[Contributor 2]

Next chat, next chat from Mr. Never Miss. As we see transitioning obviously ruins lives. Are we going to be forced to see more of this violence as time allows people to regret their transing? Who's held accountable?

[Host]

It's just such a small percent of the population. I don't know if you're going to see this to a level that will necessitate people caring enough. I mean, you'd have to have such a huge wave of mass shootings from trans individuals because we already had quite a bit as far as representation among mass shooters. I don't know if you're asking if it would change public opinion. Can I see the question again? Sure, just one sec here because again, we're all running like one and a half hours in.

[Contributor 2]

Yeah, sorry, I was looking for the next one, but let's see here.

[Host]

That's okay if you're looking for the next one. Here it is time allows people to regret. The real problem with it is it's completely based on non science and what I mean by that is anti science. So let me set the premise here to be really, really clear. There is no study. There is what would be considered a scientifically reputable study that proves anything other than then you were born a male or female. Again, there are crazy outliers and I understand it, intersex inclined fellow, that kind of stuff. But that's not what we're talking about. Every time they've tried to follow up and say actually we can see because we know what a male brain looks like, we know what a female brain looks like, let's try and eliminate the other variables and just take people with no medical intervention yet, meaning no hormone replacement therapy yet, who claim to be a different gender, and let's examine their brains. Every single time we've conducted that with any type of scientific rigor, we always come to the same conclusion. No, this is someone who is a man, has a male brain and they believe that they're a female. There's nothing that would prove it proves the opposite. So I say it's based on non science because it's actually based on the opposite of what the science tells us to be clear. So the problem is you have something that was thrust upon a general public that was anti scientific that we knew would have negative ramifications societally and also health wise. They'll say they don't. Again, this is why I say based on non science. They'll say, well, we don't know what the consequences are of hormone replacement therapy. We don't know what happens with long term use of puberty blockers. Okay, but anywhere else, for example, where drugs are used off label, you sometimes make an inference those in the medical community and you would look at other forms of data. So when they say we don't know the long term effects of hormone replacement therapy. Well, hold on a second. What do we do if a woman has breast cancer? Control for estrogen. What do we do if a man has something? Do we look at estrogen? Some of the first lines of defense, making sure that excess estrogen is in control, which by the way is much more harmful to the male endocrine system than female. Yes, we do. Why do you drink out of glass instead of old plastic bottles? BPA free because of xenoestrogens that mimic estrogen in the body. That's largely the reason you're concerned with chemicals in the food, chemicals in your tap, because it disrupts your endocrine system. And we know that if consumed in excess. I'm not saying that drinking your Ozarka is gonna grow your bitch tits, but I'm saying we've taken these safeguards going like, oh, okay, this probably isn't good for us when injected directly into a 12 year old's ass. However, we don't know the science yet because we haven't specifically studied injecting estrogen into the male body as a form of transitioning. It's anti scientific, okay? Not to mention the issues with bones, osteoporosis, deformation, it's not good. As a matter of fact, here's how you know there's an entire clinical practice in optimizing hormones specifically to avoid that because of the negative side effects of having excess estrogen or other hormones. So we've done this, we've thrust it upon an unsuspecting public who trust their institutions, who say, well, why would the doctors have us do this if there are any negative consequences to it? And then when people go through it and it's a very high percentage say oh my God, why didn't the doctors tell me these negative consequences by the way, as it relates to purity blockers. We used it to cast straight sex offenders for a time. Long time. I should have said that too. People go, oh my God, I didn't know this. My life is forever ruined. What happens? The left says, don't trust that. That's a very small. That's a very small vocal group of people. That's not most people. Most people are happy. Isn't there a 42% attempted suicide rate? Yeah, but that's not the same as people saying, don't transition. Yeah, but if we listen to them, will we maybe not have the same attempted suicide rate? Here's the other thing. With kids who claim they're trans, if you do nothing, meaning if you don't intervene, if you don't transition, I believe the number was 98%. Lowest I've seen was 92. It's 90 something percent. Grow out of it completely. If you administer hormones or undergo some type of transitional therapy, that number goes down close to zero again, where you end up at the same conclusion, an over 40% attempted suicide rate. This doesn't matter if they're passable, barely passable, if they have a fake penis, if they suture up their vagina, that's where you end up with. It's almost like the third law of thermodynamics. There's just no avoiding it. And so the problem is we don't tell people the truth before they hop in, before they make the mistake. And then the people who realize they've made a mistake and try and tell the world, they get silenced. They're not. Let me ask you this one. Have you ever seen on cnn, abc, NBC, cbs? Where? Have you ever seen anywhere outside of online places like Rumble or Once upon a time, YouTube, the story of detransitioners? The answer is you don't. And if you try and search for it on YouTube, at least at one point in time, maybe they've corrected it now because eyes are on them. They throttled it, they shadow banned it so you couldn't find it. So when they say silencing voices, that's actively what they do. They actively silence voices. That, by the way, would be in line with all of the scientific evidence, data and anecdotes available to us. So unless there's a loud enough and a large enough chorus of people saying no, that's going to require, sorry in this country, white men to stand up because you're the only demographic large enough to make it hurt, saying, hands off our kids. Yeah, you're going to See more of this. I don't know if you're going to see more mass shootings but just hey, the inflicted but self violence is pretty damn bad for me as a father. I'd certainly want to do everything I could to take my child out of that risk pool. Wouldn't you? Yeah, it's a shitty new world with this one. And the left has really figured out they can manipulate the vulnerable and the malleable if they just make sure that none of the voices of reason, logic or science or by the way the moral authority of God gets to them first. Final two chats.

[Contributor 2]

All right, two next.

[Co-host]

You have stamina that I don't know.

[Contributor 2]

Next chat from.

[Contributor 1]

Okay, three plates.

[Host]

Yeah, three plates for six.

[Co-host]

Is this okay? Is this okay?

[Host]

You got so much stamina over there. Yeah, exactly.

[Contributor 2]

Our next chat from Power.

[Host]

You did it six times. Yeah, I know. That's stamina. Go ahead, Noodles.

[Contributor 2]

Next chat from. Tumor J.

[Contributor 1]

Question.

[Contributor 2]

Do you think it's a possibility this father disagreed with this transition and name change is why he wasn't on the court documents.

[Host]

I guess he was a non petitioning parent.

[Co-host]

Well so. And I don't have any definitive answers on this but I did see some reporting from Andy. No. That might indicate at the very least the father was not too keen. No, it wasn't that. It was. It was. I'm kind of drawing an inference here from the post. Andy kind of draws it same conclusion that he sent his son like a happy 18th birthday and kind of a trans colored looking kind of thing. I don't know if that's 100% actual or not. We don't really have a lot of information on what the father felt about this. And on the form it wasn't non petitioning as in opposing. It was just like there's a petitioner who's the other parent kind of thing.

[Host]

So just like.

[Contributor 1]

So they're not. In other words, they're. They're not. All they're saying is that they're not endorsing it, they're just not petitioning it.

[Host]

They're. Their name is there where it's like. I guess you could probably. It means that they're obviously being acquiescent.

[Co-host]

To some degree or non applicant parent meaning like they're. He's have an applicant.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host]

1.

[Host]

Hey.

[Contributor 1]

Could have just not even been around.

[Co-host]

Yeah, it seems like he is.

[Host]

Here's an inference. Okay. Who do you want to bet wears the pants in that family? Next chat.

[Contributor 2]

All right, next chat from Amanda De Nice. One question for the crew. What is the cure for feminism and returning to normal male female roles when it's pushed into everything for young minds to consume?

[Host]

I'll tell you exactly what it is. Two solutions. One for men, one for women. I'm not gonna say males, females, because I don't play that shit. They're the same thing. Men. Don't tolerate it, don't sign up for it, don't marry it, don't put a ring on it, make it really do the opposite of Travis Kelce. Put your foot down in love. If you find someone you love, make really clear what your expectations are, your boundaries, your worldview is women. If you too want this, a return to this, and you do because you want them to pay for the meal and you do because you want them to hold the door, just apply it across the board. That means even in the times where he's not laying down his life for you, and that is an expectation and it's one that men have to accept wholeheartedly if they sign on that dotted line. That means before you get to that, he gets final say in the color of the drapes or whatever it is. A man who loves you is of course going to want to please you, but you need to be okay with the times where he does something displeasing to you. If you cannot make the case that it is illogical or cruel. In other words, what does submit mean? It really means this. It's the same that it would be in a military setting. It's the same that it would be in a boss setting. It's the same that it would be in a team setting. If you designate a captain or a leader, obviously you speak out if someone is about to make a decision that will lead to the deaths of the team members. But the person who submits to that authority. And I'm not going to do the cop out. And that means God and no, no, no. It's very, very clear. You can compare it to any other dynamic. You, if you decide to, yeah, button or go a different direction, you have to be able to make the case as to why it is illogical or will cause serious harm. If you can't, it means you just don't like it. It may even mean that down the line you may be right, but it's a your guess is as good as mine scenario. And no unit can function if there isn't one. Tie breaking deciding factor means women. You have to also accept that sometimes he'll be wrong. And you may not know it yet, but you may find out after the fact, and you have to follow his leadership anyway. So, men, if that's what you want, since you are tasked with leading, lead, that means you don't tolerate it. That means this is not something that you would sign up for. It's not okay with you. If someone wants that kind of relationship, they can move on down the trail to someone else. You're not controlling them. Women, if you want a man who is a leader and a man who will lay down his life for you, that's what submission means. Unless it is illogical or you can make the case that it will cause irreparable harm, you have to submit, be silent, and love him anyway. Final chat. Really? Is it breaking?

[Co-host]

I don't know if I can call it breaking, but I want to, so maybe I can say it this way and make the point. So research if you guys can look into this. But apparently they're saying that this person was previously a student at the school. At some point.

[Contributor 1]

It makes sense if the mother.

[Host]

Yeah, I assume so.

[Contributor 1]

Associated.

[Co-host]

We haven't said that. Nobody's made that claim definitively. The source is supposed to be law enforcement, and they apparently have told that to the Washington Post. But I'm seeing somebody say that, not necessarily the Washington posting, so maybe we could chase that down and see if that's true.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

Very similar to the Nashville shooting at that point.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Co-host]

A lot of the markers being the same.

[Host]

Also, if they were going to. I would imagine this is a Catholic school. Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah.

[Host]

Also, I would imagine if they are going to a school where people in the positions of authority, who would be following the church doctrine. Now, whether you agree or disagree, who would be following the codified theology of the Catholic Church, which would of course include the value of life and would of course include the teachings that you were fearfully and wonderfully created. And would, of course include. Include the teaching that you are not to simply choose to change your gender. If they were teaching that and that was being undermined by someone within the church, like the mom who says, don't. Don't actually listen to them, it's fine. We'll change the identity. If, again, all of this proves to be true, I would imagine that would create a really conflicting inner conscience. Final chat. All right.

[Contributor 2]

Final chat from Driller 40. Would reopening mental institutions that we've closed down help prevent these situations from happening?

[Host]

Yeah, but I don't want to end on that chat because I've answered yes. Yes, it would. And I get it. I get it. There was a problem with it with state institutions where someone would. Someone would hop you up with way more than the allowable dose of Ativan so they could bang a nurse in your room, and you were none the wiser. I get it. There were some really bad nurses, but not everyone is Nurse Ratchet. Okay?

[Contributor 1]

Lobotomies, all that stuff. But that was 60, 70 years ago.

[Co-host]

Yeah.

[Contributor 1]

We've learned we're a different time. We're a different society. Yeah, definitely.

[Host]

Here's the problem is now you wouldn't be able to do it because we used to at least have something like, well, that guy's. How do we determine if someone needs to be institutionalized? Right? Someone's like, well, I think that guy's crazy. And you'd be like, why? Well, because he pissed in the photocopier and said it was Jesus.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah.

[Host]

And you're like, oh, okay. But now if you go, well, I think that person's crazy, and the other person goes, okay, we're gonna have, whatever, a conclave. What evidence do you have that this person is crazy? If you were to present this in, let's say, any decade before the 21st century, be like, well, he's a guy. He has a guy. He has the hairiest forms you've ever seen, and he still has a cock, but he has fake tits and wants us to call him Bethany. And he says he wants to make a skin suit, and if we don't.

[Contributor 1]

He'S gonna kill us.

[Co-host]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of suits. You know, skin suits really cross.

[Host]

So. Yeah, now you'd have eventually, like, well, I don't know. That's just. That doesn't sound. To me that's. Are they living their truth? So it'd be really hard to have any type of unanimous agreement as to what constitutes crazy when we are this far gone and we have Drag Queen story hour. So it's, you know, it's a cultural. It's a social rot that needs to be addressed by a chorus of voices. For our. Our institutions now need to follow us. We don't follow them. After Covid, that's been clear as day. So you are the authority. Just like with Disney, the most powerful person in Hollywood is the person who pays, whatever it is. $18 for a ticket. Now, the most powerful person in determining the direction of your institutions, be it higher learning, be it halls of government, or, yes, even the medical establishment. You've seen it. Now, the other way. You is you. They need to follow your lead. That doesn't mean that you determine science, but it does mean that you determine the appropriate moral interpretation of science because science says you can take a life. Science doesn't say if that's morally right or wrong. Final chat.

[Contributor 2]

All right, final chat from Death Mobile. Question for the Explain how Catholic and Christians vote for leftists. As Rush Limbaugh says, liberal. Are liberals first? Maybe that's the answer. But how does that change?

[Host]

Oh, oh, oh, I know this one. Does anyone else want to take it first? Okay.

[Contributor 1]

No.

[Co-host]

Close us out, chief.

[Host]

And by the way, thank you to everyone here. Mission Control, give them a round of applause. Doing a great job, Noodles. Cool, man. Billy the Kid.

[Co-host]

No, no, no. I pulled back everyone who's been here.

[Host]

By the way, and this would be a gross violation of union labor laws because no one's really gotten a food break. Gerald, Josh and Josh, where are you? You're going to be at Cap City Comedy Club.

[Contributor 1]

Yeah, Cassidy Comedy Club at the end of the month, September 26th and 27th.

[Host]

Okay.

[Contributor 1]

And I'll be out back sneaking to PB&J later.

[Host]

Nice, nice.

[Co-host]

You don't have to sneak. We are allowed to eat.

[Host]

Don't worry. I got some toaster scrambles with your name.

[Contributor 1]

No, I have to sneak it because Johnny boy tries to take them.

[Host]

How do Christians vote? Leftist. And I appreciate using the term leftist. It's the one that I've used as far back as I can remember. I think it's most defining the same way that people who say there are Christians or. Sorry, the same way that people who say they are Christians but say there are many paths to heaven. It's bullshit. And their faith means nothing to them. So here's where the left is actually right, the atheist left, at least as they were largely the left, you know, in the. I would say 2009, 2000, when I was early there on YouTube, they would say, so you believe a fairy tale or you follow a fairy tale? The Christians, self proclaimed Christians who vote left, who vote Democrat or say there are many paths to heaven. Yeah, they're kind of following a fairy tale because they don't believe it. They don't fear the fires of hell at their soul, which if you read all great Christian writers, who we respect and honor, be it Lewis, Chesterton, any of them, take your pick. Hell is a real place and it sucks. And not that you get to heaven through works. That's not what we believe. We believe that the fruits of the tree, right, they follow the changing of the soul, the reformation of the soul, not the other way around. In other words, the works don't get you to grace. Grace changes the fruit of the tree. But if you're not seeing the fruit of the tree at all, means there probably hasn't been a heart change. And if someone says, yeah, I'm a Christian, but there is no way to the Father except through me, kind of foundational. I don't really believe that. I believe any God is the same God, even, by the way, the gods who say that, the guy who said the only way to the Father is through me, even the gods who say that he was a fraud, I believe they're good, too. Because I believe mostly people are good. You know what our Bible says? You're mostly bad. You're mostly flawed, you're mostly sinful. You don't want this goes back to feminism and getting what you deserve. No one. Look, let me tell you this. That's why it's a day above ground. This is a really, really hard day, okay, for a lot of people, because we have to wallow in this and we have to be in the thick of it. And it does. It takes its toll. It's exhausting. Spiritually, emotionally. My heart is breaking. I'm sure that all of us have been choking back tears at multiple instances throughout the day. But I still have to be grateful. I still do have to be grateful, because it still is a great time to be alive in spite of all the flaws that we have to deal with. And the truth is, I don't want what I deserve. And neither do you. None of us want what we truly deserve. Not since Eve took that godforsaken grapefruit from that shitty snake. And I know it's a serpent and it's different, and I get it. And it had legs and then it had to slither. But at the point it remains going all the way back to then we don't really want what it is that we deserve. And anyone who is starting off from a different foundation that I believe people are mostly good, well, that really negates the kind of whole reason for the story, or as you would call it, story or fairy tale, because I don't know about you, but if it's just some morality tale, which, by the way, you willfully ignore if you're a Christian who votes left, because you'd have to ignore a whole bunch of parts. If all it is is a story to you and some kind of moral archetype, then it'd be pretty shitty for a dad to have his son crucified, wouldn't it? There'd kind of be another way to show Us. That's kind of the whole crux of it, isn't it? There are many paths to heaven. There's only one path to heaven. Human beings are mostly good. Human beings is damned for all of eternity because of your own actions. There's got to be another way. If there was another way, I wouldn't send my only begotten son to be crucified, tortured and die on the cross for your sins. Sorry. This is the way it's got to be. It's the only way we can do it. I'm not any happier about it than you are. Said Christ in the garden, guy was sweating blood. Jesus literally. Think about that. Why would that guy go through that, that kind of fear, that kind of terror, that kind of pain, all so that you could put him up right next to Aesop fable, the story of the frog and the scorpion, or the three little pigs, or Hansel and Gretel and say, well, I'll take that and that's pretty nice, but it's not really what defines me because I also think that these other forms are just as legitimate. If that's the case, then just discard all of it. And this is not to say that there are no differences in theology, by the way, from Baptist to Presbyterian to Catholic to Orthodox, I get that. But there are closed handed issues and there are open handed issues. There are national borders and there are state borders. Okay, Texas, Oklahoma, right? They call your school, whatever it is, a bunch of gays playing football. I don't know what they do, but the point is they have differences. But you're still in the United States of America. Oh, wait a second, wait, hold on a second. You can be jailed for any form of speech in Canada. Well, that's no longer the United States. That's what we call a national border. And if you say, well on a second, I'm a Christian, I'm American, I love America, but I believe you should be jailed for speech. Well, you don't love America. Well, I'm a Christian, but I believe you should be able to kill your baby if you want. Then you don't believe what the Bible says. I'm a Christian, but I don't really believe that Jesus was necessary. I just think it's, you know, be generally good. Well then you're not a Christian. You are now beyond a national border and we do not count you amongst us. And I am trying to be very clear. I would not say that same for any other form of Christian denomination, barring the weird cults where some guy gets to bang a lot of chicks, even if we have some key differences. Differences. Right. If you're talking about pre tribulation is post tribulation all that. I understand it, people, and it's nerdy and it's fun. But we do not count you amongst us if you do not share the foundational values, values that are supposed to be so important to all of us as one united body in Christ, that there can be no. That's kind of what determines us being a Christian. And so I guess I would answer your question with a question like Jesse Ventura. I'm just asking questions. How can a Christian vote leftist? And what do we mean by that? Let's just define it. You're not free. You are to bend the knee to your government, to your king, whatever it is. There is no inherent value to human life. And we determine when human life begins. We determine what is in fact a human life. And by the way, we can harvest it for our own selfish gain. There's no such thing as a difference between men and women. They're fundamentally interchangeable. And there's no right or wrong way to raise a child. That's what someone's saying when they vote for any of the leftist progressive parties, whether you call it the Labour Party, the Democrat Party, depending where you are, the NDP in Canada, which is silly. So I would ask you, well, if you identify as a Christian, but you vote left, how are you a Christian? Because I can't find any evidence to substantiate that. Look, it's 2025. We're not sacrificing rams at an altar. Right? What is that? What is a sacrifice? And I want to wrap this up here, but what is a sacrifice? Sacrifice is, in that case, literally burning up, vaporizing something that could feed your family for weeks with no guarantee, no earthly guarantee of anything in return. That's the sacrifice. And you're doing that to show your faith in God. We're not doing that. There are very few ways to put your money where your mouth is in the year 2025. Very few sacrifices that you are called to make and very few sacrifices that people make, you can tithe, you can give to the church. That's the closest thing. You know what the other one is? When you cast something you don't get back. When you throw your lot in with someone who's going to represent your nation, what you're saying is you're putting on that team jersey and saying, yeah, I'm with them. It's the closest you get to an actual sacrificial altar today, casting that with no guarantee of anything in return. But it's important because it's showing what you believe. It's having some skin in the game. And if you claim to be a Christian, by the way, if you claim to be a Christian and you vote Democrats, very unlikely that you tithe. You're very likely incredibly uncharitable as seen by Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders. But that's an aside. So you very likely don't tithe or give your money either. But you toss your lot in and say, yeah, I don't get this back. This is an important one and I identify with the people who seek to destroy everything else that it is I claim to believe. Well, which means more the vote, the only skin you have in the game or your words at a potluck? And I'll tell you, if you pick the former, we don't count you amongst us and we don't respect you. I know it's mean. It's been a mean day. We'll see you tomorrow. I think sa you.