Shutdown Backfire: Dems Are In Major Trouble While Trump Takes on the World in Asia

Summary

Louder with Crowder — Episode Summary

Episode Title: Shutdown Backfire: Dems Are In Major Trouble While Trump Takes on the World in Asia
Date: October 29, 2025
Host: Steven Crowder
Co-Hosts: Lane, Gerald
Featured Clips/Guests: Harry Enten (CNN), Zoran Mamdani (DSA), Bill Gates (clips)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Steven Crowder and co-hosts dissect the political fallout from the ongoing government shutdown, spotlighting a surprising shift: Democrats are facing backlash, and Republicans are gaining ground—contrary to conventional wisdom. The team also examines major reversals in climate policy rhetoric, particularly Bill Gates’ change of tune, and argues why Japan should now be considered America’s greatest ally, even over Israel. The show’s tone remains comedic, irreverent, and sharply critical of left-wing politics.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Republicans Gaining During the Shutdown

• Crowder opens by highlighting recent polling that indicates Republicans are benefitting, not suffering, from the government shutdown.
• Notable Quote:

  "Republicans are actually gaining during the shutdown, meaning everything the left has tried is failing to a degree that, honestly, I couldn't have predicted."
  — Steven Crowder (00:55)

• CNN’s Harry Enten is featured repeatedly, genuinely surprised that the GOP isn’t losing ground.
• Notable Moment:

  "Look at the net approval ratings for Republicans in Congress. This shutdown hasn't even dented the Donald Trump support at all... It's a complete flip."
  — Harry Enten (29:45)

• The hosts joke at Enten’s excitable demeanor, making light of the media’s apparent confusion over these political trends.
• The group notes this is historic—Republicans are usually blamed for shutdowns (37:42).

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Timestamps:

• [29:45] – CNN’s Harry Enten shocked at poll trends.
• [32:44] – Democrats’ position in the generic ballot at a 20-year low.
• [37:42] – Crowder notes historic role reversal in blame for shutdowns.

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2. Critique of "Soft on Crime" Progressive Policies

• Crowder criticizes New York progressive politician Zoran Mamdani (DSA) for advocating prison abolition.
• Mamdani is quoted as suggesting prisons don’t make society safer and are a legacy of trauma (14:20-14:46).
• The crew dismantles the argument, emphasizing the role of deterrence and severe punishment for violent criminals.
• The expansion of radical leftist positions is discussed, covering catch-and-release, defunding the police, and calls for releasing all prisoners (19:27).
• Notable Quote:

  “Do you think there won't be policing in that neighborhood? You think vacuums don't get filled? ... It's gonna be a warlord, dummy.”
  — Steven Crowder (21:05)

• The dangers of outside money backing these policies in New York (23:37).

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Timestamps:

• [14:20] – Zoran Mamdani’s anti-prison commentary.
• [19:29] – “Defund the police” outlined by Crowder.
• [21:05] – Crowder explains consequences of removing policing.
• [23:37] – Out-of-state money influencing NY politics.

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3. Government Shutdown & SNAP Benefits: Who’s to Blame?

• Analysis of why Democrats, not Republicans, are being blamed for the shutdown and lapses in social programs like SNAP.
• Crowder points out even federal employee unions are turning on the Democrats (36:52-37:42).
• The roundtable explores how the public perception shifted due to Democrats’ inability to manage government or control the narrative.
• Notable Quote:

  “The American public just believe that they're completely inept at running government.”
  — Steven Crowder (37:10)

• Lane argues that increased scrutiny over 29 days helped people discern the real causes.

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Timestamps:

• [36:52] – Federal unions blame Democrats for shutdown.
• [38:17] – Lane on public awakening during long shutdown.

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4. Bill Gates’ Climate Change Reversal

• Crowder explores Bill Gates’ reversal, from zero-emissions doomsday rhetoric to now emphasizing economic growth as a climate solution.
• Gates’ earlier dire warnings (“We have to get to zero emissions”) are contrasted with his 2025 position: “People will be able to live and thrive in most places on Earth for the foreseeable future” (45:21, 47:56).
• Lively mockery of Gates’ “legendary philanthropist” tag and his massive 5000-page memo advising a focus shift.
• Notable Quotes:

  • “He is actually pushing evil … pushing an anti-God, anti-human, human race religion effectively.”
    — Steven Crowder (43:17)

  • “The best way to solve climate change is to cut down on deaths. And as they get wealthier, they’ll use more energy … We also need to cut energy use basically down to … zero.”
    — Steven Crowder, highlighting Gates’ contradictory thesis (49:05)

• The crew suggests Gates is pivoting for business reasons, especially as AI energy demands balloon, and the old narrative no longer sells (54:28).

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Timestamps:

• [45:21] – Past Gates claims: Zero emissions only acceptable solution.
• [47:56] – Present Gates: Improving lives more important than emissions.
• [49:05] – Crowder on Gates’ logical contradictions.

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5. The Conservative Playbook: Own Your Positions

• Encourages conservatives to stop compromising and unapologetically defend their beliefs, arguing that voters respond better to conviction than to hedging.
• Advice given for handling topics from SNAP to Christianity, gun rights, and climate change (39:26, 56:46).
• Emphasizes the importance of time: trends eventually prove the right’s warnings true (57:42).

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Timestamps:

• [39:26] – “We now have the playbook. … Just own it, guys. Republicans own it. That's the winning play.”
• [56:46] – On sticking to your guns over time.

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6. Crowder's Case: Japan as America’s Greatest Ally

• The episode closes with a tongue-in-cheek argument that Japan, not Israel, should be considered America’s top ally.
• Attributes include geopolitical relevance, cultural affinity, and Japan’s (sarcastically) “cool” new Prime Minister “Takaichi.”
• Light-hearted, comedic banter comparing Japan to other US allies (58:12).
• Notable Quote:

  “I disagree with people who say that Israel is our greatest ally. … Canada, it’s gay. The UK, too many Muslims who want to kill us. India smells like farts. This leaves us with one logical answer.”
  — Steven Crowder (58:34)

• Trump’s relationship with Japan is lampooned, referencing a fictional gift exchange and a “planning ceremony” (59:56, 60:35).

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Timestamps:

• [58:12] – Crowder introduces the Japan-as-best-ally segment.
• [59:56] – Trump “ceremony” with Japan’s PM.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Crowder on the Left/Right culture divide:

  “The big difference between the right and the left. … We want to separate ourselves from these cultures that we believe to be inferior. The left wants to pander to them.” (08:57)

• On New York’s progressive agenda:

  “They want zero police… just send in the social workers. They had some tough breaks.” (19:27)

• On Bill Gates’ climate pivot:

  “He’s not a legendary philanthropist. He’s an evil, evil person. … He is actually pushing evil.” (43:17)

• On policy consistency:

  “Stick to your guns. Don’t stop. Stop compromising where a compromise isn’t necessary. If you know you’re right… just give it time.” (57:42)

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Tone and Delivery

• The episode blends Crowder’s characteristic irreverence with sharp political critique, frequent sarcasm, and pop culture asides. Banter between co-hosts is quick, edgy, and often off-color, maintaining an “us vs. them” vibe and inviting the audience to join in the in-group humor.

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Conclusion

This episode dissects several unfolding political narratives: the unexpected political upside for Republicans during the shutdown, the failures of progressive criminal justice reforms, Bill Gates’ stunning retreat from climate crisis alarmism, and shifting global alliances. Crowder’s core message is one of unapologetic conservatism—urging his audience to own their beliefs without compromise, with recent events serving as validation for the right’s longstanding warnings and priorities.

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Transcript

[Harry Enten]

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[Steven Crowder]

$15 per month equivalent required. New customer offer first three months only. Then full price plan options available. Taxes and fees extra. See mintmobile.com welcome to the Lineup Live here on Rumble, 9am Eastern to 7pm Eastern. Each show rolls into the next. Rumble owns live. YouTube's Dead Rumble did it figuratively. It's okay, though. We can make jokes about the dead because it's Halloween. It's a spooky time. Which brings me to I forgot to tell you. We have the Halloween spooktacular this Friday. We didn't do it last year because it was in the middle of election time. I think this is the 10th one. So you'll see a little rundown, a little video of that in the costume contest. Rules. Gonna be a lot of fun. Today we're going to discuss something very surprising to Adam Enten at cnn. Republicans are actually gaining during the shutdown, meaning everything the left has tried is failing to a degree that, honestly, I couldn't have predicted. I knew they wouldn't do well. But they may actually force themselves into the position of losing in the midterms. That's almost unheard of. Bill Gates is now saying, hey, hey, all that stuff about climate change and population control. Like, actually, we shouldn't do that. We should focus on economic growth in these other countries as opposed to the opposite, which I've done for a very long time. So we're going to call him to the mat. And Japan, I'm going to make the case, is our greatest ally. Yep, even more so than Israel. And I have a good reason for that. And I'm not saying that you know secret Jew tunnels, but, you know, I'll explain in context. On with the show.

[Lane]

Yo, what up, fam?

[Steven Crowder]

It's your boy, D Day, AKA D Boy, AKA Dlish, AKA D Spice, AKA D Dog, the D Trigger, the D.

[Lane]

Town clown, the one and only D Train.

[Steven Crowder]

Always in detention, always taking detours. Did you just call yourself D Day? Do you know how disrespectful that is? You look more like D Cup.

[Lane]

Why don't you suck Deez nuts.

[Steven Crowder]

Dad, why don't you move out?

[Lane]

You know, it's an unstable economy out there. All kinds of messed up stuff.

[Steven Crowder]

Inconsistent interest rates, predatory loans and such.

[Lane]

Darrell, call American Finance. They can help you work around all of that.

[Steven Crowder]

I told you this, like, a hundred times.

[Lane]

And I told you a hundred times. You better stop talking about me like that.

[Steven Crowder]

Stop calling me Darryl, you goofy b. What did you just say to me, boy? Nothing. I didn't say nothing.

[Lane]

Call the pros at American financing today at 1-800-974-6500 or visit www.americanfinancing.net Crowder, NMLS 182334. If you start today, you may even delay up to two mortgage payments.

[Steven Crowder]

Glad to be with you today on the annual Halloween Spooktaculate. Gerald, your Black Rock. I get it. Oh, Dylan Mulvaney. That's the best one, and I don't like it. Thomas the East Palestine Tank Engine. A Korean paraglider. I call this the tale of. That's probably gonna have a lot of problems. Send in your Halloween costumes with your mug in the picture to me on Twitter. Use the hashtag spooktacula. You'll enter to win the costume contest. That's a lot of work. If I was worried, that's not too bad. That's pretty good. Donald J. Trump.

[Gerald]

You're the drag queen of England.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, the drag queen of England.

[Gerald]

No wonder why I look like Hillary Clinton.

[Steven Crowder]

What's this flag behind me? Charles has it in his room. The news familia puts the mug in the basket. Remember what Gerald said, Steven? It's like transgenderism. It's not real. That's what I know. Glad to be with you. I'm low on sleep. The reason I'm running low on sleep is because last night I heard a knock at the door and there was no one there. I'm not just saying this for Halloween. I wasn't alarmed until. I mean, like this. Like, not like a. Ooh. It just. No one.

[Gerald]

It was me.

[Steven Crowder]

So I just went out, checked it out. I'm like, what happened? And then I got my gun. Because I was alarmed.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

But at first. So, anyway, you guys ever had that, let me know. Is it a demon? I have no idea. Also, what is the greatest Halloween candy of all time? Since we're coming up on Halloween, you guys call them rockets. In Canada, they're actually known as Smarties, which. No, no, no. Smarties is the rocket. Sorry, sorry, sorry. What you guys know is Smarties we call rockets. Smarties are like An M and M candy in. Don't admonish Canadians. Let them know. Right. We have Smarties in Canada. It's like a chocolate candy thing.

[Lane]

More like dummies.

[Steven Crowder]

And then we call what you call Smarties rockets. Those awful. Those are the pennies of Halloween currency.

[Gerald]

None of this makes sense to me.

[Steven Crowder]

Captain Morgan, CEO not doing a good job. Friday, Nove at the Chalet theater, Enumclaw, Washington, Mr. Josh Firestein.

[Lane]

Hello. It's sixlets for me.

[Steven Crowder]

Sixlets?

[Lane]

Yes, sixlets. Do you know sixlets?

[Steven Crowder]

No. I know chicks.

[Lane]

They're like little. It's mm concept, but they're round perfectly. Like a ball.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Lane]

And they have a little chocolate. Little candy coated chocolates. They come in a little sleeve. Six of them.

[Steven Crowder]

No, that's six slits. No, we never had them.

[Lane]

The orange ones are flavored orange. Like an orange chocolate.

[Steven Crowder]

It's cool. Yeah. Do you guys have. Yeah, yeah, there it is.

[Lane]

Oh, they're so good. It's the best one over. Underrated, for sure.

[Steven Crowder]

Do you guys have caramel bars here?

[Lane]

Caramel? No. We probably call it something like Snickers.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no, it's just a chocolate bar and it's like. And there's caramel, but they're all like squares. Anyway.

[Lane]

Carmelo.

[Gerald]

There you go.

[Lane]

Yeah. Caramello.

[Gerald]

Caramello.

[Steven Crowder]

Now you guys are talking about Dominicans. All right.

[Lane]

I think it's a basketball player. Caramello Anthony.

[Gerald]

Oh, is he a basketball player, Carmelo Anthony?

[Steven Crowder]

He is, yes. Did he. Did he beat up his girlfriend in an elevator with a butter dish?

[Lane]

No, but a guy with the same name and same skin tone killed a kid at a track meet.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, that's right. I'm getting it out. You know, easy mistake.

[Gerald]

Hey, weird start.

[Steven Crowder]

I have a question for you. We're talking about Halloween because it's fun, but how did you mark the end of the not fun holiday Diwali the other day? I don't know if you know this. This is not a one time event. They do this all the time. And they did it again in India.

[Lane]

Ah, just the boys having fun. Oh, yay. What is that, like mud or.

[Steven Crowder]

All cultures are equal.

[Lane]

I would have got a haircut first, I think.

[Gerald]

I don't think lice is your biggest problem, Josh.

[Steven Crowder]

That guy hit that man from behind with a mountain of poop at this point.

[Lane]

Why even wear pants?

[Steven Crowder]

Take us off to born in Craft.

[Gerald]

Okay.

[Lane]

Was he a mushroom?

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, my God.

[Gerald]

Ranga Swami. Close.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. I mean, obviously the poop is. It offends western sensibilities. But I also would note not a lot of major league pitchers there. No.

[Lane]

But they play cricket a lot, so maybe we'll get some soon. Yes, that's the theory. Ippo.

[Steven Crowder]

If your deity is born in crap.

[Harry Enten]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Pick another one.

[Harry Enten]

We are born in poop.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes. And we will die in poop.

[Gerald]

So we need to from poop to poop.

[Steven Crowder]

Your father was born in poop. Your grandfather was born in poop. Your great. And you will be born in poop.

[Gerald]

That's true. Yes. You notice how Christians always go to the manger to play to honor Christ, right?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. No, not the porta Potty on.

[Gerald]

I don't think that that wasn't the high point.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay. To be fair. And here's the thing, because everything is international these days now, American films have retroactively had to be rewritten for the Indian market. Meanwhile, in Toronto, because, you know, here's the big difference, I would say, and you can comment below, it's not meaningless. The big difference between the right and the left. And the right includes nationalists, includes conservatives, includes right. It's a big tent is we want to separate ourselves from these cultures that we believe to be inferior. The left wants to pander to them. That's not a small difference. Do you want to pander to a culture that throws poop at each other in celebration of a. How does Christmas dinner look in 20 years? Okay. If the left is in charge and I know you'll say that's hyperbole. I'm fine. We're dealing with. We're dealing with people who throw poop. They throw poop. It's not a joke. It's bad.

[Lane]

It's also odd that it's the timing of it. It kind of lines up with Halloween.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Lane]

You know, like, what is the trick part of the trick or treat? Just throwing poop at someone's house.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Or is that the treat is, instead of egging the house, it's like, you what? Oh, Kit Kat Mini, you're going to be covered in poop.

[Lane]

It's all treat for this. I can't tell if it's trick or treat.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, what do you think? We'll get up the next. I hope it's poop. More.

[Gerald]

Cow poop.

[Steven Crowder]

More.

[Lane]

Every house on this street is poop.

[Steven Crowder]

Do you think there's just like one Indian in that and he doesn't want to do it? He's reluctant. Hey, hey, guys. Maybe we should not be always fondling poop. Like, shut up. Shut up.

[Lane]

Oh, don't be such a nerd.

[Steven Crowder]

How dare you look at. You must be nice in your tower. Always nacing everything we do with poop. Never a good one to say about poop. This one in your ivory tower.

[Lane]

You need my toilet. It's porcelain, dumbass.

[Steven Crowder]

Decadence of the west now. So now we go to the left. Pandering. You know Toronto, One of my favorites ever. The mayor, Olivia Chow, she marked the beginning of the holiday the only way that she knows how. Through gross, uncomfortable pandering.

[Harry Enten]

And no rhythm.

[Lane]

Watch them. Copy them. Them just like ips.

[Steven Crowder]

Now she. Look, she starts punching.

[Lane]

Taebo.

[Steven Crowder]

She's doing Taebo. Why does she get away with bad appropriation? We get up, we get. We get flack for Taco Tuesday. She's doing Taebo for Diwali.

[Harry Enten]

I think it's.

[Lane]

I think there's a scale. Is how funny is your appropriation?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Lane]

Versus how cr. Like, it's so bad and so funny.

[Steven Crowder]

That's like.

[Lane]

Ah, come on, give it to her.

[Steven Crowder]

I guess.

[Gerald]

Ah.

[Lane]

The Chinese lady's doing Jamaican things. The Chinese lady's doing Indian things. The Chinese lady's doing whatever.

[Steven Crowder]

Pelosi's kneeling with a Jamaican scarf.

[Lane]

That's cringe.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Lane]

Not funny enough.

[Steven Crowder]

No, you're right. Yeah. Nobody ever told her she can't dance. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. She's actually been doing the same dance for decades. Me so horny. Me love you long time.

[Lane]

You think they're gonna.

[Steven Crowder]

Do.

[Lane]

You think they're gonna let her throw out a first pitch in Toronto for the World Series?

[Gerald]

Oh, no, I hope not. She's just dancing.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, my gosh. I.

[Lane]

They should let her sing the Canadian national anthem.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Yeah. And then she'll be doing Tie Bow to it.

[Lane]

Yeah, that'd be great.

[Steven Crowder]

Do we have the clip, by the way? One of my favorite things ever. The Sydney Sweeney ad with Chow. Yeah, let's play that. Just so you know, this is not related, but she did the same thing with Carnival. I believe it was Brazil. And. And so she did the pandering. And then we. This is just one of my favorite things we've ever done. We somehow merged that with the Sydney Sweeney ad. Just watch this because it's fun. Sydney Sweeney hasbreen.

[Lane]

That pancake ass gets me every time.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm sorry, guys. Look, the show is a mix, okay? We provide all the references and we try.

[Lane]

But where's the reference to that? Steven?

[Steven Crowder]

It's just.

[Lane]

Where's the reference?

[Steven Crowder]

It's just good, clean fun.

[Lane]

I think you gave the references.

[Steven Crowder]

You said.

[Lane]

See Sweeney.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lane]

Carnival. You can find it.

[Steven Crowder]

It exists. Speaking good clean fun. Let's go to unclean Zoran Mumdani. Hey, we are not the same. The right and the left.

[Gerald]

No.

[Steven Crowder]

And this is something that a lot of, not only liberals, but a lot of libertarians, they'd always talk about the prison industrial complex. I think we're kind of at the point now where we've lived the experiment and we've seen the results. For example, we've gone the other way from the prison industrial complex where we've just done catch and release. Okay. People don't like it. We've lived through the, hey, if we just throw enough money at the continent of Africa and they're more poor than the 80s, we've lived through the LGBTQAIP, same sex marriage and people. You know what? I don't think we're better off. It seems though, like the left and Zoran Hamdani, they're still stuck in those old talking points. We're not the same. Hear his thoughts about how prisons kind of shouldn't be a thing.

[Zoran Mamdani]

The way that prisons are set up in our society, I would argue that they do not work, they do not make us safer. The instinct is to just take that person, the source of that harm, the source of that issue, and then just throw them away, put them in a cage and throw away the key. That doesn't address the reason why that harm was created in the first place.

[Lane]

Sure.

[Zoran Mamdani]

A lot of times people who create trauma for others are those who themselves went through trauma earlier in their own.

[Lane]

Lives, themselves, so they can't do it again.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Bring all of this up to say that, you know, again, like, when we talk about policing, I don't think the system actually makes us safer. I think what it does is it just removes problems out of view.

[Steven Crowder]

And here's the thing, we have a fundamentally different worldview, and I'll get to that. But we've tried their way. It was a really good talking point. The military industrial complex and people going, oh my. They're just. They're making money off of jailing black people. Okay, but is there another facet where certain segment of the population commit far more violent crimes? And what is the responsibility of government? Is it to protect the law abiding citizens from those who break the law? And I'll just tell you, I'm okay at this point where I don't really host debates. I want people to know where we stand. There are some people with whom I could sit across from Hamdani. We're never going to find common ground. At the end of the day, it's okay. So you believe that we should be softer on crime and that people who commit crimes actually it's the symptom of society, therefore we should change society. I believe that we need a deterrence. I believe that as it relates to foreign policy, I'm a non interventionist, I'm not an isolationist. I believe that punishment should be intensely uncomfortable for those who harm their fellow citizens. For those who've decided to break the law, I believe they need to be separated and I believe it needs to be severe enough that it acts as a deterrent. We can't fix all the root causes as to why someone might commit a crime. It doesn't work. The war on poverty hasn't worked. And if you look at demographics, you notice that not all poor people depending on their demographic commit violent crimes at the same rate. You're never going to nerf the entire world. No. So should violent prisoners be behind bars and should it be uncomfortable? Is New York better off with the soft on crime approach? Should we apply that to the country or should crime be punished severely? Comment? That's just my worldview.

[Gerald]

Yeah, absolutely. And listen, he's also very illogical in that statement. He's like, I think what we've done is we've actually just. It doesn't make it safer. It just removes the problem. And in the his statement, it removes the problem.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

Yes, that's exactly right. I'm not safer necessarily as a society just because of one, but I'm safer from that guy.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

Or that girl specifically. It's not just out of sight. It's keeping the problem away from people that could be harmed. You're an idiot.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, not only that, if you just walk. Let's walk this through. And this is why Gen Z men are leaving the left. Okay, let's walk through this. All right. Catch and release, cashless bail. IOU policy. People have seen what happened with Zarutska there in North Carolina. People have seen what has happened across the country. We've seen the crime rates. And then you're gonna ask some white Gen Z kid who isn't even in the workforce yet. You're gonna ask him, someone who's never owned slaves, whose forefathers have never owned slaves, to foot the bill for people today, even though one of his forefathers spilled his blood and died to free slaves. So now you're gonna foot the bill because we have to right these historical wrongs. Make the case why? Because his black neighbors are such model citizens that he Owes them something. The left wants us to be divided. And here's the thing. People will say that we're dividing or being racist by addressing the reality. The left wants to divide and conquer by lying about the world. They're fracturing this country by telling young white people that they should pay for the crimes of others. Really, by the original sin of their white skin.

[Lane]

And he's lying about. About how the prisons work. Yeah, he says, oh, we just.

[Guest Expert]

We just.

[Lane]

Our instinct is to throw them in a cage and throw away the key to who are we doing that?

[Gerald]

Right?

[Lane]

Murderers.

[Steven Crowder]

Right. Some.

[Lane]

Some murderers get. Some murderers get out.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Lane]

We don't do it to rapists, certainly. We certainly don't do it to child predators. We don't do it to thieves. We don't even put some thieves in jail for any time at all. We don't throw away the key ever. We keep the key in our pocket. We let them out immediately. And they go, kill a lady on bus.

[Steven Crowder]

Right, exactly. Right. And then they go, well, yeah, but really the real criminals are Wall Street. Hey, I agree with you. But you want to lock them up for longer than someone who commits a violent assault and puts someone in a coma. That's just a difference in worldview. I think everyone should answer for their crimes. I think violent crimes are a different level because it's indicative of a different kind of person. That's my point of view. But Mamdani is the poster child for Democratic Socialists of America. Here are some of their demands. Click the link for references. This is directly from their site. Defund the police by rejecting any expansion to police budgets or scope of enforcement while cutting budgets annually towards zero. Wow.

[Lane]

So they want zero police.

[Steven Crowder]

At some point they want the budgets to be zero. Yeah, just send in the social workers. They had some tough breaks.

[Guest Expert]

So.

[Lane]

Crime without consequence.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep. End the criminalization of working class survival. Okay, what does that mean? Stealing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You mean it's survival. The people who we just showed you the montage yesterday, threatening to beat shopkeepers up over the snap benefits lapsing right now during the shutdown. Yeah. Cuz that shopkeeper, that local grocer, that bodega owner, they should pay for the fact that this person has been not gainfully employed for 10 years and thinks that they shouldn't pay for their Fanta. They also want freedom from. For all incarcerated people. You know, for people who say things are really nuanced. All incarcerated people. You sure about that?

[Lane]

Traffickers, rapists, murderers, all of them.

[Steven Crowder]

Jeffrey Dahmer Bundy. Like it's just so I bet you.

[Lane]

They wouldn't want to give Trump freedom, though.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no.

[Lane]

If he was convicted of 34 felonies of falsifying a document.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Lane]

That you got to throw away the key.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. For lock him up in the hole. Yeah. For trying to pay less on property taxes while he paid the bank back with interest. And they'd like to do another loan. No, no, but the people who commit violent crimes and masturbate on you on the subway, they should be let out. Because you know what? They probably had a dad who didn't hug them enough. Demilitarize the police. And colonial policing of our cities and neighborhoods. Well, that puts an end to Pilgrim patrol. Yeah, that's just. I mean, you know, I get they have a point there.

[Harry Enten]

Colonial policing.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, what do you think happens? Colonial policing? You mean policing. I don't know if you know this. And also that's intensely racist. You know who has it toughest in a lot of these cities? Black cops. You know that in Detroit, in the Detroit riots, black cops had to go home in unmarked cars because they had a target on them. But let's say you remove all policing because it's something. Something colonialism. Okay, you think there won't be policing in that neighborhood? You think vacuums don't get filled? It's gonna be a warlord, dummy. Just look, I'll give you. Of course. You'll say, well, maybe it's not like Africa. You can't point to Kony, you can't point to the tribal warring. Okay, what's the closest example we have? In other words, this little experiment existed for a very short period of time. Seattle. There you go. There you go in Seattle. And you ended up with Ras Simone, a warlord handing out AR15s to miners. Someone's gonna take control. They also want freedom of working class self organization and democratic political action. Great, do it. And then however it works out, we don't have to subsidize it. Oh, that's right, we can't do that either. Invest in community, self governance and care, not cops. Okay, what, so you want a blank check to run the neighborhoods like Chaz?

[Gerald]

All right, you kind of want to return to the Wild West. Like you're gonna have a bunch of white guys out there with guns protecting their families, and other black guys, Hispanic guys, everybody. And they're not gonna be too concerned about Miranda rights or getting it right. They're gonna be concerned about making sure a threat is stopped. You think that's better?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Lane]

Well, you know, more realistically, you're going to see things like a white guy walking through the wrong neighborhood and then the call to prayer is played because nobody's stopping that. And you don't stop. So you get beat up.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes. Yeah.

[Lane]

You know you're disrespecting Islam, right? Or a guy makes a caricature.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Lane]

And all of a sudden he's. He's hauled off and thrown off the Brooklyn Bridge.

[Steven Crowder]

Take this and add open borders. Do we have any examples of that, Aurora? Yeah. You don't think that cartels are going to see an opportunity? Yeah. Open borders, no cops and self governance. You guys know how might is, right? Turns out, right. You guys understand that? Cause that's kind of what we see now, only in some kind of a controlled or organized fashion where you have armed police to ensure that you don't just have lawless citizens with the most amount of might. Keep in mind too, this is very important because this is top down. This is not just someone has an opinion. 53% right. 532,000 of funds that Mamdani raised in the last five weeks. They came from outside New York City. There are external forces that want this guy to win. Yeah.

[Lane]

And I'm tired of seeing people saying, oh, it's just New York City. If you don't live here, don't worry about it. No, no, no, no, no. Cuz this evidence shows that this is not just one city. This is an agenda to turn many cities. And they're starting with number one.

[Steven Crowder]

Exactly. That is. And that's a very important point. I think that New Yorkers, if they vote for this still at a certain point are accountable for it. They get what they vote for and deserve, but they are being misguided. Mamdani, by the way, was hit with two criminal referrals for allegedly because I hear he's litigious, accepting foreign donations. So there you go. There you go. That's a stark contrast from America first, to be clear. And it's where a lot of those on the left sort of line up with libertarians. The criminal industrial complex. I agree. No one should be behind bars for life for smoking a joint. That doesn't happen. I think someone should be behind bars. I think lock them up, throw away the key. If they kill somebody, I actually think they should be executed. Right.

[Lane]

I think if you try to steal someone's car and then they try to stop you and then you beat the crap out of them, maybe you should get more than probation.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Yes. And I don't think it's like there's.

[Lane]

Guys in D.C. who beat up big balls.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, exactly right. Is this more comment below? Is this more extreme? I think we need to do away with all police budgets. We need to bring it down to zero. Okay. That's their position. I'm gonna take the most extreme one possible. Bring back the oubliettes. Let's do that. Let me know what you think. I know some people go, what's an oubliette? Look it up. You can also go watch Labyrinth with Bowie and you'll understand it as well.

[Lane]

Thanks.

[Steven Crowder]

Hoggle explains it fantastically.

[Lane]

You know what this feels like? It feels like a prequel to a Batman series.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, it does. Yeah.

[Lane]

And he's like, this is how Gotham became Gotham.

[Gerald]

Exactly. Elected a Muslim mayor and a socialist. But don't. I mean, people may want to go like, oh, well, that's just the DSA. Well, the DSA's back him, so he's inexorably tied to them. Oh, that's just an older video. Okay.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

Remember the undercover footage that we got of one of his high up campaign guys saying, you're a police officer. You don't have an opinion. We know how they view cops, period. This is coming.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Gerald]

In Mamdani's New York. This is on the way. And I saw Governor Desantis of Florida basically said, we have a $5,000 recruitment bonus for cops who. Who don't want to serve under Mamdani to move down to Florida and serve down here.

[Steven Crowder]

Great.

[Gerald]

Good luck, New York.

[Steven Crowder]

And by the way, it's not just their view of cops, because I will tell you, there are plenty of bad cops out there. I've been very clear about that. It's how they view the idea of a police force. They couldn't be more wrong about the role of government. Military. No police force. No Coca Cola on Snap. It's a human right.

[Lane]

Well, at that point, you have to give them Coca Cola and Snap, because if you don't, well, then you have no police to control them. When they just.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Lane]

Take it and do what they want and they take care of stores and.

[Steven Crowder]

And bring their cousin to bring you up.

[Lane]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, hey, really quick. I forgot to tell you guys. You know how people take super chats like strippers? We don't. We do reverse super chat. It's time to give you stuff.

[Lane]

Did you get strippers?

[Steven Crowder]

And by the. Well, no, but I'm really excited about this. I know. You know, we've had. Actually, tariffs have really affected the coffee industry. We've had a couple of coffee Sponsors for the first time. This is what I've wanted to do for a long time. Blackout Coffee. Actually, I've worked with them to create my own blend. This is exactly what I want. It's what we drink here, where I was actually able to sit down with them and say, okay, can we tweak this? Can we tweak that a little bit? I personally use it for our drip coffee machines here and in an espresso machine. So. Blackoutcoffee.com Crowder. It's the strange animal brew. You use the promo code. Crowder. 20% off. And we just gave out 50 rumble premium subscriptions. Let me know what you think. I am very, very proud of this. I had to kind of find a balance because some of you would be like, I don't like this. So it's a good. It's a good all arounder, but it's really good coffee.

[Gerald]

Absolutely.

[Steven Crowder]

All right. Enjoy your free crap, by the way.

[Gerald]

I love that we just. I don't know if maybe this is me just coming to this conclusion, but like, like, strippers were basically the first reverse super chats.

[Steven Crowder]

No, they were the first super chats.

[Gerald]

Sorry, super chats. Where you just. You paid them to get to talk to them.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes. Yeah.

[Lane]

You're not supposed to talk to them.

[Steven Crowder]

Other stuff. No, no, no.

[Gerald]

I understand what I'm saying.

[Lane]

But you're not supposed to talk to them at all. You're supposed to sit there and look nervous. Also too excited, but trying to hold it back at the same time and a little embarrassed.

[Steven Crowder]

No, that's everyone else. But not me. They actually find me interesting.

[Gerald]

Yes. Yes.

[Lane]

What?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, no. They care about my interpersonal relationship. Go to the waitresses at Hooters.

[Lane]

By the way, tariffs are not what's making coffee more expensive. Might have a tanned in it, but there's a shortage in Brazil.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Lane]

Bad harvest. Bad year.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, that too. But there also have been tariffs with Brazil. Brazil passed Colombia as the main coffee exporter. This is a blend of. I know. Colombian, Peruvian. I don't know if we ended up putting something else in there, but it's really good. It's what I wanted.

[Lane]

It's good blending coffee and women.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, yeah. I mean, it's tough to know though, because the surgery they have in Colombia, they just take a laser machine and Shakira, here you go.

[Lane]

Yet they still have to move drugs.

[Steven Crowder]

I know, I know.

[Lane]

Oh, they gotta pay for it. That's why they're above us on the healthcare rankings.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, because of the drugs.

[Lane]

No, because of the Laser body forming.

[Gerald]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

We'll bring it up on Rumble Premium. Have you seen it? It's like an actual laser machine that carves a shape. You can take one of those watch. And reacts that we have with the fat Pride models. Give it a week. And they look like what's her name for Modern family? Sofia Vergara. You're like, how did that happen? Lasers. All right.

[Gerald]

Are these Jewish lasers?

[Steven Crowder]

It could be. I like, I'm sure somewhere down the line we can always bring it back to that. So this is fun because the shutdown before this happened, everyone was saying, okay, what kind of effect is this going to have on the midterms? Right. Was this political suicide for the Republicans and it was a game of not just chicken, but who's going to receive the blame? And I will tell you, it's actually surprising even to me, but it's really surprising to Harry Enton at CNN. Day 29 of the government shutdown. Some new polls. I can't believe we didn't have a stinger before. It's time for enten surprise.

[Harry Enten]

Look at the net approval ratings for Republicans in Congress. This shutdown hasn't even the Donald Trump support at all. Look at where we are now. It's a complete flip.

[Steven Crowder]

What? I didn't see the singer until on air. I still thought it was surprised. It turns out we went with shocker.

[Gerald]

We did. Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

And here's the thing. It'll make sense. Like, I actually, I still don't know this guy's methodology. I don't care.

[Lane]

It doesn't matter.

[Steven Crowder]

I just. He's always very shocked and excited. Yes, excited. Like he's reading these results for the first time on air and it's like.

[Lane]

He'S not even excited about what the results are showing. He's just excited that there are numbers and statistics that show a thing.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, he's just there for the show. So here he is with the results as to how badly Democrats are. Frank, they're the ones who are being blamed for the shutdown. And Republicans, they're making gains.

[Harry Enten]

You might think, given that the Republicans are in charge of both the House and the Senate, that a government shutdown might actually hurt. Hurt the Republican brand. But in fact, it hasn't, if anything.

[Steven Crowder]

Helped a little bit.

[Harry Enten]

Take a look here. The shift in net popularity versus pre shutdown among the g. When we're looking at the Republican Party overall, that brand actually up two points. That's within the margin of error, but clearly it hasn't dropped. Come over this side of the screen. Look at the net approval ratings for Republicans in Congress. It's actually pre shut down. So what we're seeing here is the Republican brand in Congress has. Has actually improved somewhat compared to where we were. Pre shut down.

[Steven Crowder]

I just. He just. It's. It's contagious. He's like, look, w. I wish I was excited.

[Lane]

That excited every day about everything.

[Steven Crowder]

I know, it's like, it's a five point. I mean, it's good, but he's like, what? Can you believe it? Well, we kind of can, but now you make me feel like I shouldn't. And I'm excited again.

[Lane]

I feel like the other guy's taken away from him too. The other guy's not nearly as excited. He's not excited at all, actually.

[Steven Crowder]

No, he's not.

[Lane]

He's just very still. He's just standing there. It's like, come on, dude, get in the game. High five.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, he tries. Yeah, he tries. He tries to be a buzz kill. And like, well, what you even see, he asks a follow up question and Anton is having none of it. He's still like, I'm so glad you asked.

[Harry Enten]

Two groups that it's so important to keep an eye on. All right, Change in the Republican Congress's net approval rating versus pre shutdown. It's rallying the base for sure. Look at this, the net approval.

[Steven Crowder]

Look at this.

[Harry Enten]

12 points versus pre shutdown. But it's not just with the base. It's also with the middle of the electorate. Look at this. Among independents, it's up eight points as well.

[Lane]

Indeed.

[Harry Enten]

So we got a situation here where Republicans with the shutdown are actually rallying their base. But it's also something that's not hurting them with the folks in the middle anything. It's helping them with folks in the middle.

[Steven Crowder]

Jimmy Willikers.

[Gerald]

Yeah, that's out of the 50s.

[Steven Crowder]

And then he does have another question from the coast again, the buzz kill. And it's actually. So it's good for Republicans. Yes, it's good for Republicans with independence, which is pretty pivotal in these midterms. And it's actually bad for Democrats. He gets into these numbers when prompted. So how do Democrats, how are they positioned right now?

[Harry Enten]

Yeah, so, I mean, look, the general congressional ballot, which traditionally Democrats have done really well on. And if you look at this point, back when Trump was president, the first time around, Democrats were up 11 points. Look at where it is now. Democrats are ahead, but they're actually only up three points. This is in fact the worst position Democrats have been on in A generic ballot at this point in the midterm when they were Republican president in the last 20 years. And this is no different from pre shutdown. So Republicans aren't losing on this metric either. They become more popular. And they're actually in a pretty good position for them historically when it comes to the generic congressional ballot.

[Steven Crowder]

That guy is so unhappy because he's like, oh, Democrats who speak words of comfort to me. I have nothing to give. Look at this, look at this. It gets worse. They're more popular. We're doing nothing. Nothing. But wait, there's less. Democrats are way down here. Wow. I want Harry Enton to host the Thanksgiving Day parade.

[Gerald]

Yes.

[Lane]

Oh, wait, look at this. Oh, it's Santa Claus. Oh, my gosh, look.

[Steven Crowder]

He's five times fatter than last. Look at this, look at this. There's a hole in Kermit.

[Harry Enten]

Look at this.

[Lane]

Garfield's off his strings.

[Steven Crowder]

He's flying through the city.

[Lane]

His father was a golden retriever.

[Steven Crowder]

I bet you they don't like him at cnn. And I would like him. He'd be the guy to be hanging out with the green room.

[Gerald]

Like, no.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes. Yeah.

[Gerald]

He's cool.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Lane]

In the green room. Yeah. You guys gotta get in here. That guy's saying the N word.

[Steven Crowder]

Look at this, look at this. They're punching me two black eyes. Wow. Look at this.

[Lane]

I said it five times more this.

[Steven Crowder]

Week than last week.

[Lane]

I can't stop.

[Steven Crowder]

He's just contagious. I don't care his political affiliation. I enjoy what he does. And he no doubt will be unemployed sometime at cnn. Let's offer him a job.

[Gerald]

Absolutely.

[Steven Crowder]

It doesn't help Democrats at all that they look really stupid and they look like they are playing political. When they're asked about the government shutdown, you'd think they'd have an answer. They never have. Shutdowns are terrible. That's a huge worst.

[Guest Expert]

There will be families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously.

[Steven Crowder]

But it is one of the few leverage times we have. They have had months.

[Harry Enten]

Negotiate and you reopen the government and we lose the leverage.

[Steven Crowder]

What we're doing is saying simply, we want to keep the government open and we want to work with the Republicans bipartisan agreement to keep this government open. And health care is at the top of our agenda. Are Democrats demanding health care for illegal aliens?

[Gerald]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Democrats are demanding health care for everybody. Republicans control the House.

[Lane]

So all lives matter or House, frankly, this is our only moment of leverage.

[Guest Expert]

And although a very unpleasant tool to.

[Steven Crowder]

Use, whether it's A shutdown. Whether it's all of this, they want us to blink first. Well, please, aoc, for the love of God, blink for once in your life. It's a problem.

[Harry Enten]

Look at this.

[Steven Crowder]

Look at this. She's a hamster. Wow.

[Gerald]

The eyes just follow you no matter where you go. Yeah, exactly.

[Steven Crowder]

Like a Dracula's castle.

[Lane]

Like the eye Sauron. Seize all, dude.

[Steven Crowder]

And we're gonna get to some other really quickly. Bad news for Democrats on the shutdown, but please, you can download the Rumble app. Follow me there. That's the best way to stay in touch. If you're watching or subscribed anywhere else, Rumble is the place to be. And you'll know when we are live. Here is kind of the rest of the story. I am amazed that this has happened. Like, the Democrats have really, really had to screw up to get the American Federation of Government Employees calling upon the Democrats to reopen the government. Like, these are federal employees who should be in their pocket and they're placing the blame on Democrats, Democrats themselves. I don't know how this happens. Comment below because I will tell you, I'm the guy who says we shouldn't have SNAP at all. Do away with it. And Republicans basically want some kind of work requirements for a lot of these social safety net benefits. So you would think that they would be blamed for at least that. Democrats have been so bad at political strategy that it is the Democrat Party being blamed for the lapse in SNAP benefits. Think about that. Do we have that collage there? Collage? No. Do we not collage there?

[Gerald]

Everyone's just thinking about life.

[Steven Crowder]

Is he thinking collage A1? Look at this. I'm moving too fast. Wow. Think about that. The Democrats are blamed for the shutdown in government. They're the party of big government. The Democrats are actually being blamed, when you look at the data for the lapse in SNAP benefits. What that means is that even though Democrats are the big government party, the American public just believe that they're completely inept at running government. That's a really good thing because then you can segue into, okay, so the party that wants humongous government has proven to you that they can't run it. What do you do?

[Gerald]

Yeah, I don't know. Like Republicans historically have not done very well with government shutdowns. I don't know if you remember, but every single time in the last, I don't know, 10, 15 years that there's been a government shutdown, Republicans, no matter what, seem to get the blame. And they would walk right into It.

[Steven Crowder]

And it's only natural because they believe in limited government, so it would make sense for people to blame them.

[Guest Expert]

Right.

[Gerald]

This time it's like the more Donald Trump seems not to care. Yeah. About this and not address it, at the very least, cares about some of the issues caused by it, obviously. But the more that we're just like, sticking to our guns, the more it seems like they're becoming more popular. Even though Snapmageddon is on, what, Saturday?

[Steven Crowder]

Right. Yeah.

[Lane]

Well, I think, I think what's happening is people are finally. Because the government shutdown has been 29 days now. So people are like, I've had time to actually look into this.

[Steven Crowder]

Right. That's a good point.

[Lane]

And I'm hearing, I'm hearing this. Oh, it's the Republicans fault. It's the Republicans fault.

[Steven Crowder]

What do they do?

[Lane]

Well, okay, they voted. They have the House, they have the Senate. Okay, so what's going on? Oh, there's this, there's this thing in the bill that they refuse to take out, and they're denying that it's even in there.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Lane]

And I can go look at it myself and see that it's in there.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. And then they go, well, okay, then.

[Lane]

And then they gaslight them and go, no, no, no, that's not. It's the Republicans.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Lane]

They own the House, they own the Senate. Why can't they vote on it? Well, because they want you to take that crap about the illegal aliens. They'll care out.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. And that's an 80, 20 rule. Right now they're having to defend this 20% position where they're going, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it's worth the shutdown to make sure that, that illegal aliens get health care benefits.

[Lane]

But the Democrat voters aren't buying that.

[Steven Crowder]

No, they're not.

[Lane]

You know, they got their pocket that.

[Steven Crowder]

That, that love this.

[Lane]

But for the vast majority, they're like, that's one. I can, I can, I can live with that. I can live with illegals not getting free health care.

[Steven Crowder]

And I know this is more roundtable today, but just look, this is something that's really important. We now have the playbook. And I've, I've been here for a long time and I've been screaming since 2008 like, you're doing it wrong.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

To Republicans we know now, they used to say, like, hey, you know what? We gotta push the diversity thing. You don't want to appear to be racist. No, no. If you just don't care. If you say, no, no, no, we're gonna Say, we're gonna say what we actually believe. We want a society that, by the way, actually has reverence for our Christian roots and European heritage. Yeah, we're not afraid of that. If you say, you know what? No, no SNAP at all, they say like, well, we don't want to turn off that voting base. Remember Mitt Romney when he said 47% about people federal income tax because he looks like such an elitist, but now you go, no, snap. How about that? People respect it more. And I've seen it with Christianity. I would see this because early on in sort of YouTube, there were no conservatives, but there were atheists. It was pretty much by default liberal atheists. And there were some Christian apologists. And it was too easy to debunk the sort of modern, whitewashed Protestant Christianity where they would go, well, God is love. And you know what? The atheist would go, yeah, but you don't even believe that because your God has killed millions of people. That's true, that's true. And so the approach, and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we do serve a God who has killed millions of evil people. And he talks about exalting the righteous. We're not saying that we serve a pacifist God. Let's be honest about what the Bible says. Let's be honest about what our beliefs are. Yep, Second Amendment, it should be across the board. What about dead kids? Well, you take far more lives than you save with your gun control policy. No SNAP whatsoever. What about people who've had some tough breaks? That is a very, very small percentage. And now, thank God we have TikTok and people are saying out loud themselves what we have known to be true. SNAP ebt, government programs. If you were just to throw a pin on the list of names collecting these benefits, throw a dart, you would most likely end up with someone who could work, but chooses not to, who is fully able bodied, but claims they are disabled, who is obese and it's their own fault and they still want you to pay for their snap, their ebt. This is just own it, guys. Republicans own it. That's the winning play. And you even see it now with this next topic. Bill Gates, he is now aligning himself with what people like me. And I'm not the only one. I've had guests going back to 2011 on this, what we have been saying for a very long time. He's walking back his climate change prescriptions, not descriptions. His prescriptions, which were zero emissions, it's catastrophic, it's impending doom. I've been saying For a long time. It's not right. You were a climate denier. Well, now that's mainstream. Actually, back then it was global warming denier. Then they switched it. It's not. And I would say, you know what, actually, this is going to hurt people and it's probably going to be worse for the environment because you're going to keep these other third world countries thrust into poverty with these policies. Turns out now Bill Gates agrees. Here's him referring to himself in the third person as a legendary philanthropist. Well, tech mogul and philanthropist. Bill Gates says resources used to fight climate change should be shifted away from that issue and used to combat other major global problems. It's a stunning claim given the current state, state of the climate crisis. The other big story, Bill Gates, legendary philanthropist. In the climate space, of course, in the global health space, putting out a 5,000 page memo basically extolling his fellow billionaire class and investors to focus less on the existential threat of climate change and more on poverty and global health. I. For a sec, I thought that was Bill Gates referring to himself as legendary.

[Gerald]

Look like the, in the, the B roll clip of Bill Gates looked like it matched the voice for a second. It fooled me too. But it's not Bill Gates referring to himself.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, can you talk. Can you play that part again? Just the Bill Gates part? Because it looks like he's saying, Bill Gates, legendary philanthropist. Yeah, okay, play it. Legendary philanthropist in the. Okay, I get it. Okay. All right. My apologies to the Gates family. Legendary philanthropist. Why is it me that gets a price like Billy anyway? He's not a legendary philanthropist. He's an evil, evil person. And I don't mean it's like some weird demonic possession. What I mean is he is actually pushing evil. He's pushing an anti God, anti human, human race religion effectively. And by the way, 5,000 pages is a lot, to be clear, but Gates enlisted some help from an old friend. Hi. It looks like you're trying to memory hole your climate change hoax agenda. Need a hand? Do you think, you think Bill Gates sees how advanced AI is now? He's like, man, I'm glad that I came to this early because I would not have had a shot. That bent back paperclip was useless, useless.

[Gerald]

It was fun to.

[Lane]

You know they paid a guy to come up with that.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I know.

[Lane]

The guy came up with like 300 characters.

[Steven Crowder]

Someone's like, hey, can we like put a spell check in this? Okay, hold on, I'll come back to you if he comes back three weeks later. How about like A paperclip. That's annoying. That has eyes. He, like, roasts you like. What is this? All right, put it in.

[Lane]

Does this make the program faster instead?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. No, no, no. What? Is this gonna be good for us? This brings us to then and now. So let's go to. Back then, Bill Gates was saying that climate change was going to be catastrophic for humanity. And he says going to zero means.

[Harry Enten]

Eliminating all greenhouse gas emissions or else. If they wait 100 years to do.

[Guest Expert]

This, it's way too late. Then the natural ecosystems will have failed. The instability, you know, the migration, you know, those things will get really, really bad well before the end of the century.

[Steven Crowder]

And then in 2020, he even said we need to act with the same urgency that we have for COVID 19 on climate change. It's funny that he talks about migration due to climate change because that brings us to now. Well, Bill Gates says, we'll probably be fine. He says, like, yeah, the climate change is like, it's a real problem, but it's not gonna be the end of civilization, like I said, for years. He says, although climate change will have serious consequences, particularly for people in the poorest countries. What you mean is your proposed policy, it will not lead to humanity's demise. People will be able to live and thrive in most places on Earth for the foreseeable future. Oh, glad we dodged that bullet after billions of dollars spent on your propaganda bullshit.

[Lane]

Thanks, Orson Welles.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Let's go back to then Bill Gates. And here's the thing. People will be like, oh, you know, I'm glad that he's making. No, no, no, no, don't let him out of this. No, he said that emissions and the temperature rise, that those were the key threat. And of course, proposed policy that would kill many people and result in hundreds of billions of dollars of waste.

[Guest Expert]

If you want to get to zero, you don't get to skip buildings or agriculture, industry or electricity or transport. You don't even get to skip planes or boats. You know, you've got to have it all as long as you have emissions. Sadly, because CO2 stays in the atmosphere for thousands of years, the temperature just keeps going on up. And that's why zero is what we need in terms of avoiding the unknowns, what it's like to get certain temperature increases. We have to get to zero emissions.

[Steven Crowder]

Now, just to be clear, was everybody's interpretation of that, that we have to get to zero emissions? Because he said zero emissions?

[Lane]

Yeah, he said zero. Not even planes, trains, cars.

[Steven Crowder]

You got to do all of it.

[Lane]

Right Not a tree, not a. Yeah, yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

He said because along with our emissions, you're going to have a temperature rise. So zero emissions because of temperature rise. So just to be clear, that was, that was all. That was everybody's impression, right? Zero. Okay, that brings us to now where Bill Gates says that actually temperature emissions are really not the most important way to measure climate progress. He said this is a chance to refocus on the metric that should count even more than emissions and temperature change. Improving lives. You mean improving lives by forbidding them from using planes, trains and automobiles. We're gonna hold you to it. Bill Gates, I mean, he has.

[Lane]

In some countries it makes sense. Like if in India, if you took out the trains, that's a lot of deaths. Avoid.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, a lot of selfie deaths.

[Gerald]

No more predators. You're fine. Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

This brings us. It's always been, and I've been saying this, it's always been anti people. And now they realize this has gone too far and people are rejecting it because they're having to deal with the consequences. Stick to your guns. Give them no quarter with these. Just say no. No. I don't think you should be dictating. I don't think you should be dictating what people drive at all. I think that people should be allowed to innovate. I think that people should be allowed to transport themselves. I think people should be allowed choice. And you know what? That's how we actually innovate our way out of climate change, if we believe that it's catastrophic. Let's go back to then Bill Gates called for, and you can admonish me because I said hundreds of billions, trillions of dollars really to be spent on zero emissions. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. It's a cited the famous McKinsey Report, which states that capital spending in the net zero transition between 2021 and 2050 would amount to $275 trillion.

[Gerald]

What?

[Steven Crowder]

By the way, global GDP is 111 trillion, so no idea how they'll generate that. There aren't enough digital paper clips in the world, you bitch. That brings us to now actually spending on health and prosperity for the human race. That's actually the best defense against climate change. That's what he's saying. He's saying that economic growth is going to cut climate deaths in half. He wrote, as countries get wealthier, they use more energy. And if they use more energy, they get wealthier. Oh, sorry. Logical fallacy alert. Time for a logical fallacy alert. Contradictory premises. Let me read you the definition. Contradictory premises. Kind of self explanatory involve an argument that draws a conclusion from inconsistent or incompatible premises. Kind of like as country. As countries get wealthier, they use more energy. As they use more energy, they get wealthier. And that's our biggest solution to climate change. But by the way, we have to get to zero emissions. This is. Okay, so hold on, let me understand this. The best way to solve climate change is to cut down on deaths. Okay, great. And as they get wealthier, they'll use more energy. And they'll use more energy as they get wealthier. And we also need to cut energy use basically down to. Because energy use equates to some kind of emissions. Unless it's nuclear energy. 0. How does any of this work? And by the way, everyone outside of Bill Gates and the climate change, the religious zealots have been recognizing this for a long time.

[Gerald]

I know. Well, and look, you've been actually saying this for a couple of years now, at the very least, many years.

[Lane]

Okay, Come, let Zoltar tell you more.

[Steven Crowder]

I conquer at the next pitch. Ball, right?

[Lane]

We're gonna win the game, I guarantee.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, maybe the Mexican government could have given Those children the 60 plus million that they actually spent on this conference. No, that's just crazy talk and wouldn't make headlines. But of course that in a nutshell is how going green affects third world countries. They won't have the chance to pull themselves out of poverty as we have here in the New World. And with fewer and fewer countries being exempt from emission standards, it's going to become increasingly difficult. But see, the environmentalism movement today is pro Mother Earth. And human life is often seen as nothing more than a byproduct or a nuisance. Who's most affected by the Green New Deal? Who's most affected by the Coda Protocol, which would skyrocket energy costs, which for us is mildly inconvenient because you drive a crossover. But for someone in Zambia, or honestly, you don't have to go that far for someone in Mexico, if you can wander out of your Cancun booze cruise resort, they work all week just to get enough fuel so they can heat a can of beans on an old ironing board in a drum. Who do you think is most affected by your green policy? It's inconvenient for us. It kills people in the third world who make $2 a month. So they don't really care about the most vulnerable among us. Based on the premise of climate change. Right. The reason for these heat waves? A false claim. You have the Left advocating reducing or outright getting rid of air conditioning.

[Gerald]

Right.

[Steven Crowder]

Because of CO2 emissions.

[Gerald]

Makes sense.

[Steven Crowder]

And when you understand that that kills people to the tune of thousands, many, many, many thousands in the first world, then you understand how many people die in the third world. That we aren't necessarily even able to quantify because those records are not kept. They're not tip top. They're not airtight with their records in the world that is third.

[Lane]

Come, let Zoltar tell you more.

[Harry Enten]

I'm gonna hit the next pitch ball.

[Steven Crowder]

Right past the flag.

[Lane]

We're gonna win the game, I guarantee.

[Steven Crowder]

And look, I wanna make one point here. You can go Back to also 2014, 2013 and see interviews that I've conducted. Also the reason I was shirtless, that was the last time I ever did any work with a nonprofit national center would pay for some videos. I was at Fox News. It was a Cancun climate summit. We got a press pass, but I couldn't actually record at the conferences. So we're like, I guess we'll just have to tape, like record what we saw and heard at the resort.

[Gerald]

Might as well go shirtless in the pool.

[Lane]

Well, if you got shoulders, I mean, go for it.

[Steven Crowder]

I didn't. But I will say I'm not an expert. I'm very clear about that. So how did I get it right? If nothing else changed my mind, providing these references. I want standing your ground. I want sticking to your guns to be so easy that all of you can do it. How did I get that right? It's not that I'm anything special. How did we get Covid? Right? It's not that we're anything special. It's that this information was available and it was being suppressed. And now Bill Gates acknowledges it was true. If we just trusted the experts, well, we would have spent more than the world's GDP on getting emissions to zero. This is not without consequence. This is not hyperbole. If Bill Gates had his way, all the while I was expressing the view that he now espouses. If he had had his way, it would have destroyed the world. It would have entirely destroyed the world and thrust us into darkness. Yeah, he acknowledges that now.

[Lane]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

This has been an evil. This has been a truly evil thing since the beginning because developing countries need cheap energy to get going. And then they develop better ways to get energy, cleaner ways, and that's how you build their economies. Except we've shut that valve off for all these developing that he claims to care so much about. Right. But it's not just that as I was watching this, I was just thinking in my head, like, why? Why now? Why the about face right now? I don't think it's because the climate change narrative has lost too much popularity. It's just not in. In fashion right now. But there's not a movement against it publicly, right? Not a movement firmly against it. What there is a movement for right now is more power. There's more power needed for AI. Massive amounts of energy are needed for AI. Microsoft is one of the top five most valuable companies in the world, I think north of $4 trillion. They are one of the leading players in the AI game. Okay, is it possible that it's just a money thing for him right now, saying, well, I can't be against power that is necessary for the future and maybe we can just innovate our way out, which is what we've been saying from the beginning. And my problem is that he's known this for a lot longer than most people have.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Gerald]

It's a theory. Might be crazy, but it just seems like this is just money and power. This isn't about caring about environments or developing countries at all. It never has been.

[Steven Crowder]

I've had people come on the show and go, well, you're a climate denier. I've said, no, no, no, no. I'm a denier. That the international policy that is proposed which would cripple economies and destroy modern humanity's way of life. I'm anti that they would even be able to solve the problem of a temperature rise of 1.6 degrees. I don't think it would make any discernible difference. And so I'm not willing to kill tens of millions of people through this policy. Well, now Bill Gates agrees. I think it could be an intersect of money. And he also sees the writing on the wall, the polls where people are like, yeah, okay, climate change, but we certainly shouldn't actually abandon.

[Gerald]

Maybe this tipped him over the edge. Yeah, right. Because it's really hard. Like, if you need power, there's gonna be emissions. You can't be on both.

[Steven Crowder]

Let's poll the audience. Why do you think the switch. This is not just kind of a modification. It is a 180. It's a 180 complete.

[Lane]

I'm glad that, you know, he's got that idea now. But what I want to see is an actual acknowledgement of being wrong. An actual acknowledgement of, hey, what I said before was wrong and it was dangerous, and I'm sorry for that.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Lane]

I'd love to see that.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Lane]

Not going to see that.

[Steven Crowder]

If you look at the green New deal proposed by AOC, the one pager, I think it was. Yeah. 10 pages.

[Gerald]

It was 10. Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

She was reciting Bill Gates talking points. Now imagine if someone like that actually had power to get it done. I just ask that you guys kind of mark the people who've been at the forefront of this for a very, very long time. And I know that many of you, you listening, watching right now. You may be one of them. Pat yourself on the back. Stick to your guns. You don't stop. Stop compromising where a compromise isn't necessary. If you know you're right and you know the left is lined. Let's use Covid as an example. If you know you're right, stick to your guns. Just give it time. Here we are now. Climate change, the Kyoto Protocol. Now, I believe it's the Paris Agreement. There's the Paris Accord. There was the Montreal Agreement, the CUDA Protocol, Paris Accord, same thing. You know that. You were right. Stick to your guns. Lgbtq, aip, Slippery slope. It's gonna come for the kids. You know, you're right. Just give it time. Same thing with socialism, democratic socialism in the United States. Just give it time. Don't compromise when it's not necessary. Also, Gerald wants me to say, don't compromise on style. Go to Crowdershop.com support us in Sal today. And, Sal, look at you, Lane. The brain is gonna lose his mind because this is like, you know, he loves anything Asian, and this is a big segment.

[Gerald]

Well, I'm asking him if he wants us to do it in Mud Club or if he wants us to do it tomorrow now. So, okay, we'll do it today.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, we'll start it. Okay. So Japan, they're our greatest ally. Let me just state that Lane and I are in agreement on that.

[Gerald]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't exclusively find Asian women attractive, but that's just a preference for him. Now.

[Gerald]

Asian adjacent works for him. That works, too.

[Steven Crowder]

I mean, like Singapore, which is kind of anyone's guess. So who do you think is America's greatest ally? And this is one area where I would agree with some people who folks might say are on the fringe. Right. I think there are some people who are anti Semitic who think the Jews are the cause of all ills. I disagree with people who say that Israel is our greatest ally. They're not big enough enough. They're not super trustworthy in some ways. And, you know, it's a region that isn't as important as the Indo Pacific, Canada it's gay. The uk. Too many Muslims who want to kill us. India smells like farts. This leaves us with one logical answer. 1. And it involves a pretty cool chick who used to play in like a rock band who is now the Prime Minister. She's in charge of. And I don't fully understand their system, but you know, she's the one in Japan. What's her name? Takaichi. Takaichi. Donald TRUMP Her U.S. japanese alliance. This is a good thing. The first female Prime Minister in the history of Japan. Madam Prime Minister, please say a few words. Thank you very much.

[Lane]

A great man.

[Steven Crowder]

Great man. On behalf of very much our country, I want to just let you know anytime you have any question, any doubt, anything you want, any favors you need, you got it. Can do to help Japan. We will be there. We are an ally at the strongest level. This concludes the planning ceremony.

[Lane]

She's everywhere, man.

[Steven Crowder]

You can't get away from her. Always dancing people who tuned in late. That makes no sense. Rewind.

[Gerald]

It'll make even less sense.

[Steven Crowder]

And by the way, we're running late and I want to do right by Tim Poole. If you're not a Rumble Premium member, you're going to be whisked to Tim Pool again. It's all free, but if you want to continue with us on this segment, click that button. Join Rumble Premium. You can try it for 9.99amonth or if you want to be like the OGs, with this wonderful hand etched mug, you join for the year 99, you get 100% more show everything ad free. As well as a catalog of content for premium members that you couldn't watch in a lifetime. We're going to continue with this. The meeting actually went so well that Takaichi even gave President Trump a pretty special gift that used to belong to Abe Shinzo.