Steven Crowder is a Deep State Agent

Summary

Podcast Summary: Louder with Crowder — "Steven Crowder is a Deep State Agent"

Date: November 18, 2025
Host: Steven Crowder
Guests: Gerald, Josh Firestein
Episode Description:
Steven Crowder and guests dissect trending political, cultural, and entertainment stories. In this episode, Crowder confronts accusations (facetiously) that he's a "deep state agent," comments on the state of American women and feminism, unpacks the fall of body positivity, discusses dating/marriage trends with biting humor, and reviews accusations and drama involving Candace Owens.

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Episode Overview

This episode weaves together political satire, critiques of feminism and Western institutions, commentary on global female travel, and a comedic yet critical look at body positivity's decline. Crowder also directly addresses public accusations from Candace Owens about his motivations and integrity in right-wing media circles.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The "Deep State Agent" Joke and Candace Owens Drama

• Crowder kicks off responding to accusations (mainly from Candace Owens) that he is somehow an operative or paid off by shadowy powers:
  • “Look, the elephant in the room is that I'm paid by Mossad or, you know, somebody to do this silly horse crap you see on the show, according to Candace.” (00:36)
• He keeps an open, mocking invitation to Owens to debate live, offering to open financial records for transparency:
  • “If you want to open your books, we'll open our books too, to see who’s paid by what. Beyond that, we’re not going to do the back and forth on social media. The invitation, Mrs. Owens, is always open.” (30:10)
• Later, Candace’s own audio clip is played—she accuses Crowder of being a “pathological liar” and references the “Egyptian plane” conspiracy. The hosts dissect and dismiss these claims as “spreadsheet” conspiracies gone wild, clarifying why such evidence is not credible. (26:45–29:03)

Notable Moment:

"How deep do you think I am? Into the deep state. And has the deep state penetrated me or do I penetrate them? I prefer to be the penetrator than the penetratee." – Steven Crowder (02:59)

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2. Global Travel & “Feminism Abroad”: A Sri Lankan Story

• Crowder highlights a viral story about a solo female traveler facing harassment in Sri Lanka and uses it to critique "privileged Western feminists" who are oblivious to actual conditions for women abroad:
  • “These countries where they don't respect the rights that you think you're entitled to in the Western world… you shouldn’t travel alone.” (09:35)
  • Cites legal practices like Sri Lanka’s “two finger rule” for sexual assault victims as evidence of pervasive misogyny in other cultures compared to the U.S. (08:16)
• Commentary turns satirical as the panel mocks Western women’s shock at these realities:
  • "This is the problem that we have now is Western privileged people, largely women, are blissfully unaware of how women live across the globe. This woman was. She was surprised." (10:17)

Timestamps:

• Story setup and video: 04:33–05:48
• Cultural/risk analysis: 08:02–10:17

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3. "Why 40% Of Young Women Want to Leave America"

• Crowder explores a Gallup poll revealing a spike in American women wanting to emigrate—40% of women aged 15–44, compared to 19% of men.
• Panel reacts with skepticism to women's stated reasons (misogyny, lack of protections), suggesting a disconnect from global realities:
  • “Why do you think it is? Right, because women are so mistreated in the West, as opposed to Sri Lanka, that they feel like they're in a prison of the patriarchy's making.” (11:47)
• They break down TikToks by “Femadonna” advocating for men to listen more to women, with Crowder suggesting the Western narrative doesn’t align with actual relative safety/freedom.

Timestamps:

• Poll stats: 11:25–11:47
• Analysis and TikTok reaction: 12:15–13:39
• Destination breakdown: 13:39–15:59

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4. Marriage & Relationship Trends: The Gender Divide

• Crowder breaks down current relationship and marriage stats:
  • “Girls, now only 61% want to get married. 74% of men want to get married. Girls in '93, 83% of them wanted to get married… Women have dropped 20 points.” (16:47)
• He attributes declining female desire for marriage to institutional betrayals and unrealistic expectations (as reinforced by universities and social media).
• AEI survey: 45% of college-educated women say "no one meets their standards" vs. a third of college-educated men (18:50). Panel lampoons extreme dating requirements with a viral 18-point Hinge list, arguing that what men seek hasn’t changed while women’s criteria have become ever less realistic.

Timestamps:

• Stats and trends: 16:47–18:50
• Swiping through the viral Hinge list: 19:54–22:39

Notable Moment:

"If this man is fit, socially respected, well groomed, attractive and makes $300,000 a year, you have to ask yourself, what do you bring to the table that he doesn't have without you? Because you're asking him to bring a lot to the table." – Steven Crowder (22:39)

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5. The Death of "Fat Pride": The Role of Ozempic & Celebrity Trends

• Crowder claims the body positivity movement has collapsed because celebrities “defected” once presented with an easy pharmaceutical fix (e.g., Ozempic, a weight-loss drug).
• Parade of before/after celebrity photos: Lizzo, Mindy Kaling, Kelly Clarkson, Demi Lovato, Megan Trainor, Amy Schumer, Lena Dunham. The hosts lampoon how these women publicly lauded "being big at any size," only to shed pounds once a shortcut emerged.
  • “We were told forever that women are beautiful, healthy, and sexy at any size… the minute there was an instant lose weight solution, they jumped on it.” (34:43)
• Crowder distinguishes between honest self-acceptance and hypocrisy, advocating discipline over “easy outs” and criticizing the media for promoting harmful messages to young women.

Timestamps:

• Body positivity background: 32:05–33:49
• Mocking the celebrity reversals: 34:43–38:04
• Summary and underlying message: 39:40–41:12

Notable Moment:

“Women who know they're miserable. These women obviously weren't happy with their size. They were telling all other women they were giving advice, it's fine. Be like me. Be your authentic self. When the second they could jump at the easy out to no longer be overweight, they took it. They were giving you advice. Young women to be as miserable as they were while telling you that they were happy. That’s the problem.” – Steven Crowder (37:00)

• Ethan Suplee, the actor, is highlighted as a positive counterexample—he lost hundreds of pounds through hard work, not drugs. (46:18–47:00)

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6. Honesty, Societal Pressure, and “Good Faith” in Media

• Crowder ties the show together by emphasizing the need for honest references, self-reliance, and skepticism. He offers a five-point “prescription” on how to filter which conservative pundits to trust (57:57):
  1. Actions taken to fight the left.
  2. Ability to build coalitions without compromising fundamentals.
  3. Willingness to defend views to hostile audiences.
  4. Non-reliance on ad hominem attacks or accusations.
  5. Transparency in sources and references.

Notable Moment:

"The people who lob that accusation first are often projecting. Not all the time. That's my experience." – Steven Crowder (57:57)

Timestamps:

• Five-point test: 57:57–end

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Memorable Quotes

• "You can be fat and you can be attractive as a man if you're wildly successful—either rich, funny… But you gotta bring something to the table." – Steven Crowder (34:03)
• "If you want a man who can achieve [$300,000 salary], you'll have to support him. He's not going to be able to be rich, successful, driven, and exist to support you." – Steven Crowder (19:54)
• "What am I, his maid? No, but he expects you to make the house better than if you're not there." – Steven Crowder (24:39)
• “I'm not anti-[Ozempic]… I’m anti lying to people in order to make yourself feel better. And we've had that a lot.” – Steven Crowder (49:33)

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Tone & Style

• Irreverent and sharp-edged: Blunt humor and satire, especially when dissecting controversial cultural topics.
• Cynical toward mainstream media and institutional narratives
• Direct, polemical, and intentionally provocative

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Additional Highlights

• The show often toggles between serious statistics/policy (e.g., immigration, dating stats, Congressional votes) and absurdist comedy (e.g., jokes about body parts during the Sri Lanka store or “reverse Super Chat” pole jokes about digital tips).
• Recurring theme: Western women are, in Crowder’s view, “spoiled” by feminist narratives, leading to culture shock when traveling or dating and causing dissatisfaction with their own institutions.
• Multiple reminders about fact-checking, references, and avoiding relying solely on influencer opinion.

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Summary Table of Notable Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | Key Theme(s) | |-----------|---------------------------------------|-----------------------------| | 02:59 | "Penetrating" deep state joke | Satirical self-defense | | 09:35 | Sri Lanka travel harassment story | Feminism vs. real world | | 11:25 | Gallup poll: 40% women want to leave | Satisfaction in America | | 16:47 | Marriage stats, expectations | Gender divide | | 19:54 | Viral Hinge standards list | Dating delusion/humor | | 34:43 | Celebrity weight loss reversals | Body positivity hypocrisy | | 46:18 | Ethan Suplee hard work example | Real transformation | | 57:57 | Crowder’s “good faith” checklist | Who to trust in media |

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Final Takeaway

This episode exemplifies Crowder’s trademark blend of confrontational humor and “anti-woke” commentary. Crowder and his panel puncture leftist and feminist orthodoxies, especially around body positivity and dating, while also skewering infighting and conspiracy in the right-wing media sphere. The upshot: Authenticity, frank discussion, and skepticism are, in their view, the only remedies for both personal happiness and political sanity.

Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

Welcome to the lineup live here on Rumble, weekdays 9am Eastern to 7pm It's a collective of like minded on some issues, differently minded on some other issues. Freedom minded though, across the board creators. And you don't need to change that dial. We were just talking about True Classics coming on as a sponsor in the new year. So that's what I've been wearing. And they're extra large underwear. The waist is a little bit large and the size large cut off circulation the other day when I was doing the show. So I gave the used underwear to Gerald. Hey, we have a lot to talk about today. It's Gino or gynocentric. Let me know in the comments what I'm supposed to say. 40% of women want to leave the United States. Not the men, just the women. Are you sure about that? 19th and body positivity. Remember Fat Pride? That was a thing. All bodies are beautiful. Well, that actually kind of disappeared. It's dead now because Ozempic came along. We'll give you some before and afters as well as some statistics. And look, the elephant in the room is that I'm paid by Mossad or, you know, somebody to do this silly horse crap you see on the show, according to Candace. So we'll respond to that K Soans a little bit later and have some fun with it. The invite is always open to hash it out and discuss our ideas on with the show. Firestein. Firestein. Firestein. Firestein. Uh, he's homeless. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with this girl who saw Josh getting his house repossessed last night. Guess it's pretty serious. Thank you, Steven. No problem whatsoever.

[Gerald]

Call the pros at American financing today at 1-800-974-6500 or visit american financing.net crowder nmls1823 if you start today, you may even delay up to two mortgage payments.

[Steven Crowder]

Morgan. Morgan. Well, hello there. Let me raise your Christmas spirits. Is Delilah still alive?

[Josh Firestein]

I don't know Delilah.

[Steven Crowder]

No, I remember that. Yeah, it was fun.

[Gerald]

I thought you meant like, hey, Delilah.

[Steven Crowder]

Then you find out she had like 19 divorces and kids chained up in the basement or something.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, that's how you know how to give advice.

[Steven Crowder]

That's just a joke. Don't do. There's a lot of law. There are a lot of lawsuits for slander and libel going around. Oh, by the way, I'll be on Pierce Morgan later tape what's funny is I pre taped it yesterday. I don't think I'm letting the cat out of the bag. And it's more relevant today than ever. So we'll get to that and more. And let me ask you this question of the day. How deep do you think I am? Into the deep state. And has the deep state penetrated me or do I penetrate them? I prefer to be the penetrator than the penetratee. Nice.

[Gerald]

It's a mutual relationship. That's what I think.

[Steven Crowder]

Either way, not wearing its hat. Captain Morgan, how are you, sir?

[Josh Firestein]

Better than you or the deep state, apparently.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, deep state.

[Josh Firestein]

Geez.

[Steven Crowder]

I get to mine. Gerald, you're not feeling that well. The only one in good health actually is going to be in Springfield, Missouri. Springfield Comedy Club Saturday, December 20 Go see. Go get it. Go raise your Christmas spirits. Mr. Josh Firestein. How are you?

[Gerald]

I am excellent. Good in my shrunken flannel.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, flannel is the worst. It always shrinks.

[Gerald]

I've been losing weight and so have my shirts.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, that's because they're following the leader. Yeah. That means your shirts respect you. That's what I think it means. They respect a firm but diligent hand. Hey, if you needed reason number 404,693, we're keeping count generally as to why women should not travel abroad to I would say a very specific subset of countries alone. Well, here's one. Kiwi who found out the soft way.

[Female Traveler]

No, definitely not.

[Gerald]

No, no, no.

[Steven Crowder]

Have you seen my wiener? But look at it.

[Female Traveler]

Has that ever worked my morning for him, probably very peacefully. It was my fourth day of my Sri Lanka road trip. I had a lovely sunrise swim and I spent a few hours at the beach. As always, I met lots of kind locals along the way on the journey. Some even helped me at the petrol station when my fuel gauge wasn't working properly. But soon after, my mood changed. There was a man driving a scooter.

[Steven Crowder]

For those listening on audio, he does.

[Female Traveler]

Take it out to pass him. And he would speed up and pass me again. Keep going on and on and on. The first time I smiled at him.

[Steven Crowder]

I love how he's acting nonchalant.

[Gerald]

He's smiling, but he's very.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm going to do it. It's going to happen.

[Female Traveler]

Got off his scooter and came to talk to me.

[Gerald]

He's very chill.

[Steven Crowder]

Come on, don't chicken out.

[Female Traveler]

He seemed friendly.

[Steven Crowder]

Do it.

[Female Traveler]

Try to talk to me. But then it quickly.

[Steven Crowder]

She wants it.

[Female Traveler]

And he asked where I was standing.

[Josh Firestein]

Look at It.

[Steven Crowder]

There it is.

[Gerald]

Dandori.

[Steven Crowder]

Look at it.

[Josh Firestein]

Look.

[Steven Crowder]

Here you go.

[Female Traveler]

Just in shock. I could not believe he asked me that question. And after I said no, he still had the audacity to expose himself to me like that. Such a beautiful place with really kind people. And then something like that happens. Now I'm gonna be on edge for the rest of the trip.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, you'll be on edge. I'll be on edge for the rest of the trip. By the way, has that ever worked in unsolicited wiener picture? Well, maybe let alone just in person. And, you know, this guy was just waiting for. Everything was a setup. He's like, oh, yes, I think the bathroom is that way. And maybe we would.

[Gerald]

It's definitely worked for that guy before.

[Steven Crowder]

It definitely.

[Gerald]

Somebody's definitely been like, no, I don't want to have sex with you.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Gerald]

And then he goes, what about now? And then she goes, oh, well, that's not easy at all.

[Steven Crowder]

I have to rethink my priorities. Yeah. Yes. I think it's worked. I said I didn't want to have six, but now I see you shriveled oven, like, wiener. Let me. Yeah.

[Gerald]

It's not the first time he's done it, too.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, definitely.

[Steven Crowder]

He even knows it's wrong, too.

[Gerald]

Because you see at one point, before he pulls it out, he does this move.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I know. Yeah.

[Gerald]

He looks behind him like, I hope nobody is watching.

[Steven Crowder]

Which, by the way, is not a cautious lookout. Like, it requires a little. When you're about to commit a major sex offense. Yeah. A little bit more than this. Yeah.

[Gerald]

Well, he's been driving to the road. He knows. Yeah, he knows where he is, like.

[Josh Firestein]

Putting him up to it. Like, no, when she sees it, she'll want it. You gotta do it.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no. All believe it. They all believe it. And women, you can comment below. Let me know. I know, on dating apps and stuff. You'll get a lot of these pictures sent to you that you don't want. Right. And I just can't imagine that's ever worked. Like, you don't. This is the problem. Right. Those guys are thinking, hey, I'm sending this lady what I would like to see. If you were to send those pictures, the men would be thrilled. I'm just telling you. Even if they're a moral man. Like, come on. You know what I'm saying? But in some cases.

[Gerald]

Oh, our dick.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. In some cases, if you were to send a nude picture, they'd be thrilled. So they're sending you what they would like. It's like you with your college degree or your job qualifications when you tell a man about them, we don't care. We don't want it. Does that make sense? Can you understand it now, by the way? The man was later arrested by Sri Lankan police, and she had the unfortunate task of having to pick him out of a lineup. Oh, come on now. It's a tough one. Whoa.

[Gerald]

Guy on the left is gifted.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, very well. He's been doing the yoga. He's been wrapping it around a BO staff. Old Moses there, because it brings you closer to God. Tell me again how all cultures are created equal. One says, love your neighbor. The other says, put your dick on a BO staff and roll it. Roll it.

[Gerald]

I guess he's hoping for some karma. He's hoping somebody will show him something.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, exactly right. What goes around comes around. Now it's your turn.

[Josh Firestein]

He's just trying to eat, pray, rape.

[Steven Crowder]

His way to Sri Lanka.

[Josh Firestein]

Sorry, it's a different culture than India. Very close.

[Steven Crowder]

Derivative, by the way. In 2024, Sri Lanka was rated the number one destination in the world, female travelers by Time Out. And here's the thing. I don't know if you guys know this. Not only are there obviously a much higher number of sex offenses committed in places like India, places like Pakistan, places like Sri Lanka, but you have no recourse. So I was trying to do some research. We were on the sexual assault statistics. You can't really find them because if a woman comes forward in Sri Lanka, number one destination, by the way, if you come forward and you've been raped, they actually have the right to investigate your sexual past. And they actually use a method of testing. They've gone through the scientific method called the two finger rule, which is an official will, and forgive me, I'm not trying to be crude. Try and insert two fingers into your nether region. And if they can, it means you're too loose and you've had a lot of sex. Therefore you in fact are not a victim of rape. Which also tells us a good idea about their penile size in that country. Because every woman alive. I would have two fake. This is not. This is not very generous.

[Gerald]

Unless they're. Unless they're big sausage fingered people.

[Steven Crowder]

They're not being tested by half.

[Gerald]

I've seen them wave those fingers. Those things are long and slim.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, well, if they have Marius Putinowski on staff, you'd have a point. Otherwise, if it's that little Sri Lankan guy, it's your fault.

[Gerald]

Also pretty sure this guy is the editor of Timeout magazine.

[Steven Crowder]

Please come to Sri Lanka. The story here is that it was a surprise. You shouldn't be traveling alone as a woman. Why are you saying that I can't. Yes, I'm saying that you need to be protected by a man in these countries where they don't respect the rights that you think you're entitled to in the Western world, in the modern world, you shouldn't travel alone. I don't care what kind of a spiritual quest you're on. And you could be raped and have no recourse. That's a very distinct reality. This is the problem that we have now is Western privileged people, largely women, are blissfully unaware of how women live across the globe. This woman was. She was surprised. That's the story, to me.

[Josh Firestein]

Got a little spoiled.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, exactly. When he reaps the spoils.

[Gerald]

Well, that list, too, that list by Timeout that said it was the number one destination for solo female travelers.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

It started with, like, it's beautiful and the people are nice.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Gerald]

And then you go down the list, and number four is Japan. And the first thing it says. The first thing it says, safest place in the world, Right?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

Like, why is it number four, then?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly. You would think it's.

[Gerald]

Well, I mean, it's safe, but. But what it doesn't have is beauty.

[Steven Crowder]

Right? Yeah.

[Gerald]

Trashfield Rivers.

[Steven Crowder]

I would still take that. Over the rape. Over the rape. Over. This is their. This is their mating call. It's just like, oh, that's all they do. They have no gain.

[Gerald]

No, but their non bread is.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's why we need to import as many of them as possible. Because of the food. I don't want our country to look like any of these countries. Change my mind. Let's go to the next story. Because it ties into this. Gallup now just found that 40%. 40%. That's not me misspeaking. That's not a typo. Check the references. We make them available for every single show. 40% of young American women want to leave the United States permanently. Guess why?

[Gerald]

Fresh new data shows one in five Americans would like to leave the country permanently. That's according to a new Gallup survey. And younger women are behind that spike. Two in five women, in fact, from the ages of 15 to 44 now say they want to leave the US for good. That's four times as many from 2014, when just one in 10 wanted to live abroad.

[Steven Crowder]

Now, in stark contrast, only 19% of men want to leave. And there's a plus or minus.19% to account for pussies. So. And why do you think it is? Right, because women are so mistreated in the west, as opposed to Sri Lanka, that they feel like they're in a prison of the patriarchy's making. So take it from this lady with the following. This TikTok user, Femadonna, who broke it down for all you dumb men out there who don't understand just how. How bad it is in the West.

[Femadonna]

I don't know if I want to be in America anymore. I mean, between the misogyny, the racism, the wall taking away protections that would have helped women keep their jobs, it just doesn't really make sense for any of us right now. Our men, they're driving the women away. So if you're a man and you're watching this and you're getting ready to type something really horrible to me, I mean, yeah, I'm not saying you're actually listening. I don't know, maybe back off some of that manosphere stuff, back off some of that red pill content and start listening to women and seeing what you can do to find a partner that is your equal, that is your lover, that is your biggest supporter, and not someone that you treat.

[Gerald]

I already did it.

[Femadonna]

Adversary, a hostage or prisoner.

[Steven Crowder]

Perfect partner. Do you mean like you? Look, if you want to go, then go, But I'll see you on the beach. Yeah, I think that's. Oh, I think that's clear enough. By the way, download the Rumble app. That's the best way to follow. I'm not on Tick Tock. I've been banned. So you can follow me on the Rumble app. Download it and you'll know when. We are live, which is 11am every weekday, and then we do some special streams and special uploads, the top destinations for these women leaving the United States because of the patriarchal prison.

[Josh Firestein]

Where do they go for freedom?

[Steven Crowder]

Canada with 11%. Just don't protest the government. They might freeze your bank accounts. I mean, don't expect to have the freedom to bank, to own a firearm, to protect your house, to protect your children. Leave the keys by the front door. So the robbers just take your car and make sure that you do as Daddy government says.

[Gerald]

And make sure not to go to Quebec unless you do speak French.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, those who landed in French Canada weren't prepared for that. The sheer violence they were about to witness. No, It's still one of my favorite clips. For those who speak French, comment below. It's just. It's even funnier if you know what they're saying. And the guy falls on a decline. So they. It's so the inertia, the momentum. I mean, it's like a whim. And he sounds like a. Sounds like when a Disney character gets hit in the nuts.

[Josh Firestein]

Just.

[Steven Crowder]

He's saying. He's saying, come on, come on, come on. The guy goes, eat shit. And he goes. He goes, here, here, hold the microphone, hold the microphone. The guy's like, well, what holds to what? And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. He's like, come on, you old bastard. He goes, I have no intention of fighting. And he's like, come on. Come and take it. And then he swings. And.

[Gerald]

Who'S the one that says eat? Is the one. Is it the one who ate?

[Steven Crowder]

No, it's the other one.

[Gerald]

Oh, okay.

[Steven Crowder]

That's what gets him fired up. Okay, Canada. That represents half of my family.

[Gerald]

So.

[Steven Crowder]

Where did the. Where do the feminists go outside of Canada? The next top countries? Well, these angry feminists disgust in the United states, New Zealand. 5% of them want to go to New Zealand. 5% want to go to Italy, and then 5% to Japan. Japan. We actually have obtained exclusive video of set arrivals. Down with the patriarchy. Don't destroy the past. Were they in the building?

[Gerald]

Not anymore. Yeah, they're rubble.

[Steven Crowder]

And here's what the polling shows. Only 40% of women have confidence in our country's institutions. Contrast that with 53% of men, which is funny, because these women are going to schools where in grade school, you very likely or very possibly can go your entire grade school tenure without ever having a male teacher in high school. I don't know what it was for you. For me, I'd say less than 20% of my teachers were males. So they're being taught by female teachers, female professors, to pursue new endeavors, modern progressive endeavors, and abandon this idea of becoming a mom and a wife and a family. And they don't trust women, don't trust the institutions that have been feminized by their request. Think about that. And that brings us.

[Gerald]

It makes sense. I mean, women don't trust other women.

[Steven Crowder]

That's true. She's like, listen to women. You first. Women don't listen to other women very often. Why? Because. Because, you guys, it's just constant backstabbing. Not all. Not all, not all, but most. Now, this brings us to marriage. High school senior girls now are much less likely to want to get married than the past. So girls, now, only 61% want to get married. 74% of men want to get Married. So more young men want to get married. Girls in 93, 83% of them wanted to get married, whereas boys, 76%. So boys have stayed remarkably stable. Right? About three quarters want to get married. All the way from 93 to today, women have dropped 20 points. And then they don't trust the institutions. When can you start putting two and two together? The institutions have led you astray. The institutions have done you a disservice and you're less happy. Well, what are they telling you? What are public schools telling you? What are your studies in university telling you? You're pursuing everything they've told you would bring you a fulfilled life. So what do we need to do with the institutions? And their solution is more feminism, more leftism. Now who's to blame for this? Good news is we have some data. Here's a new AEI survey. College educated women are more likely to say that no one meets their standards. Meaning as far as members of the opposite sex, women, it's 45% of them. College educated women say, there's no man who meets my standards. Almost half men. It's about a third. Think about that for a second. And we've talked about this. The obesity rates are higher in women. The mental health issues are much higher in women. And they have much higher unrealistic standards. And then they blame the institutions, they blame men. Men still want to get married. They just don't want to get married to the women they see before them. This can't be fixed unless women fix it. Let me give you an example here. This is. I think it's been going pretty viral. I don't know if we've cited it before. This woman's 18 point list of requirements on Hinge. Okay, Swipe loves me deeply and puts me first. Financially successful, $300,000 minimum salary right away. Those two are self negating. Before we get to anything. Do you understand? Oh, $300,000 salary. But he has to put you first. Do you have any idea how rare it is for someone to actually make that? I know. We think everyone does because of the movies. He's going to be half. He's going to be having to devote a lot of time to his job, to his company, to his career. If you want a man who can achieve that, you'll have to support him. He's not going to be able to be rich, successful, driven, and exist to support you. In contrast, men don't care about your salary. They want that love and support. This does matter. Which side has more realistic expectations and which Side has the same expectations that they've always had. What men want has not changed. What women want depends on the decade. So, loves me, puts me first. Financially successful. $300,000 salary. Generous and spoils me. Sophisticated and enjoys luxury. Emotionally intelligent and confident. Chivalrous and protective. Ambitious and disciplined. Family oriented and well connected. I don't even know what that means.

[Josh Firestein]

I don't either.

[Steven Crowder]

How do you fit those two in the same family? Oriented but well connected.

[Gerald]

Well connected to their family. Maybe it's like they. They are close with the aunts and uncles.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't.

[Josh Firestein]

You go to networking groups.

[Steven Crowder]

Fit, attractive and well groomed. So a $300,000 salary puts you first. And also, you know, a fitness model. You're less than 1 point of.1 percentage point at this point.

[Gerald]

Also that's a job. A job that you do that makes you 300 grand a year plus.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Gerald]

And you have time to go to the gym while also putting her before the gym and work.

[Steven Crowder]

Right? Exactly.

[Gerald]

Everything else.

[Steven Crowder]

What does he do if he gets a business call? He is scheduled some gin time. And you want to go out for.

[Gerald]

Dinner or just go shopping.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, Spoiled or whatever.

[Josh Firestein]

Spoiled.

[Steven Crowder]

Other silly horse you decide you want to put on his plate that day. Takes control and makes plans. But not too much. If I don't really want to go eat there. Keeps his word and values trust. Supports my goals and my lifestyle.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh boy.

[Steven Crowder]

With the 300,000, of course the pay.

[Gerald]

What if he's making decisions? Right, the decision have to be in line with your life.

[Steven Crowder]

No, it has to be. The decisions have to be in line with supporting her lifestyle.

[Gerald]

She wants him to say yeah, here. Go out with your girls and have fun. Go on a girls trip to Milano and I won't ask any questions.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, she wants him to take control in saying yes. Whatever you want. Yeah, yeah. Prefers. Oh, sorry, sorry. Fun, outgoing and socially respected. Okay, so now. Now you're applying the standards of others into this. Prefers privacy over social media validation. You say as you post this publicly loves traveling and fine dining. Sexually disciplined and loyal. Means he can deny him sex for months on end. And he's supposed to stick around. Handles pregnancy prevention. No hormones for me. What if he has a latex allergy?

[Josh Firestein]

Well, vasectomy too.

[Steven Crowder]

It seems like she's asking for back to rabbit skins. Makes life easier. Maid, chef, etc. So eat into that 300,000 but still enjoy all the luxuries.

[Josh Firestein]

She didn't describe a hard life to make easier. I don't know how you make it easier because she's being spoiled. She's being prioritized. Everything is about her. Yep. What do you have to do?

[Gerald]

I'd like to know.

[Josh Firestein]

Chef and maid.

[Gerald]

I'd like to know how she's living right now.

[Josh Firestein]

Not like that.

[Gerald]

I'd like to know how she's living right now and how these are like, these are non negotiable requirements. No, no, no. For me, for me to get out of my studio apartment and to stop working my minimum wage job. I need a man to do everything.

[Josh Firestein]

What the.

[Gerald]

She wants to date royalty.

[Steven Crowder]

If this man is fit, socially respected, well groomed, attractive and makes $300,000 a year, you have to ask yourself, what do you bring to the table that he doesn't have without you? Because you're asking him to bring a lot to the table. What will you do to make his life better or easier? And I know this, women will say that makes it transactional. And this 18 point list isn't. He wants to know. I've heard women say this too. Well, as far as laundry or cooking, if he was doing it while he was single, then he should still. I'm not his maid. Okay, then why would he sign on the dotted line with you? What's your duty to him? What is going to be reciprocated? And then you look at this and men say they want to be married, unlike women, figuratively, they just don't want to be married to this, what they see in front of them. And then women blame the institutions that have been feminized. Women blame the countries that have been liberalized. Women blame the men for being red pilled. So I guess better luck in Sri Lanka.

[Gerald]

Yeah, they'll. They see, they'll say this and then go, why doesn't a man, why doesn't this man want me? Well, because he's afraid of messing up one day, right? One day. He doesn't spoil one day. He goes, you know what? Maybe fucking not one day. He just, he has a bad day.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

And she goes, well, I bet the list is mid to late 30s.

[Steven Crowder]

I will tell you this. You want a man six foot and just $100,000 more. Six foot, six figures. You will have to dote on him, wait on him hand and foot to make it worth his while. Just to be clear, because he doesn't need anybody. He is completely independent. You're going to have to bring a lot to the table. I'm just telling you pragmatically. Traditional gender roles. Yep. So what am I, his mate? No, but he expects you to make the house better than if you're not there. My chef. No, but he expects probably a warm meal when he comes home. Otherwise, he. He can do takeout.

[Josh Firestein]

I don't.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't.

[Gerald]

I don't want to be with somebody who doesn't like cooking.

[Steven Crowder]

I know.

[Gerald]

We can cook together. Yeah, we can. We can make things together. We have to have a chef.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah. Chef made. So you're not going to clean, you're not going to cook, you're not gonna handle the pregnancy prevention, traveling, fine dining. I think that means book all of it. Okay. Fun, outgoing, socially respected, means that he's obviously well known. Luxury supports your goals and your. What are your goals and your. What are your goals?

[Gerald]

Well, what is she bringing to the table? Lip filler. What else?

[Steven Crowder]

She's the prize. And I tell you what, I hope you don't end up on the poll, because we have done a great job here of avoiding that. That's what, like, a lot of the super chats out there feel like. It's like, here you go, here's a bill, you know, making it rain. But digitally instead, we do the opposite. It's time for reverse Super Chat. And the good [e-mail] are giving back. So 50 free rumble premium subscription subscriptions. Just get them in the chat, go to crypto.com. thank them. And President Trump just signed a deal with crypto.com, yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

Trump media signed a deal with them to do an acquisition. They're acquiring up to $6.4 billion of the cryptocurrency CRO to launch America's first CRO treasury.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

So you can go over to crypto.com, check out CRO today if you want to buy it. We say, hey, be balanced. Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't. I'm going to tell you, I don't know a lot about. I know that bitcoin and stable coins make sense as part of a diversified portfolio, but if you want to do it and you want a place you can trust crypto.com and send your pictures of the free subscription that you just got to Rumble Premium. Tag me on X or on Instagram. This has been you on the poll. Reverse Super Chat.

[Josh Firestein]

I love how it's them on the poll. We've made our audience into strippers.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, speaking of them, that's a big.

[Josh Firestein]

Play by Trump Media Group, by the way. I know. It's a good partnership.

[Steven Crowder]

I know.

[Josh Firestein]

I like this.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, it is. Speaking of them, they. You know who they is?

[Josh Firestein]

Who's they?

[Steven Crowder]

Well, I know Them quite well, those people. Because after hiding it for years, I need to complete. I've been outed. If you haven't heard the news about me, just watch this clip. And to my everlasting shame, you'll understand.

[Candace Owens]

I had to learn at a very young age to read people. I think that's my superpower, actually. Just being able to look at someone and sense danger. Or sense, by the way, I should mention with Steven Crowder, I have never been a fan. He just always gave me the energy of a pathological liar. I trust my gut. I don't trust influencer campaigns. My gut started to tell me that they suddenly began panicking when I discovered the Egyptian planes. They did what? We now terminated a pre bunking. And then they send out like a full fleet against you to not even actually debunk you. But they're just so extreme in not debunking you. Like using their gut undercover operatives to sign up for my private book club that I kept. On Tuesday, they took out a clip of that book club from that book club and accused me of accusing Erica of murdering her husband. I mean, they manufactured that claim out of thin air. And then they made it go viral. They sent it out to all the right people. Steven Crowder. Right. I said he was betrayed by everyone. Obviously. What I meant was Erica Kirk murdered her husband. And this was all happening because I mentioned the Egyptian plane. I am certain. I'm telling you, this information has been completely verified. I am showing you this on a spreadsheet. Now. These are all the instances in which this plane. 60. All 68 instances that this plane crossed with Erika.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay. The Egyptian plane. I'm not gonna spend a lot of time. No. Wichita, Kansas, by the way, is listed no less than eight times as a destination on that spreadsheet for the plane. S U, B T T. It's an Egyptian owned Dassault Falcon 7X. And just so you know, Wichita is like one of those primary. It's like a global hub in certified FAA service centers. And Dassault has had Wichita State University a partnership with them since 2015. And this, what she just showed you would be very much in line with basic service maintenance, repairs. And of course, Candace with the initial story missed the time of the flight of departure from Provo by about 6 hours. Confused coordinated Universal Time with Utah time. So none of this is. None of this spreadsheet does zero to substantiate Erica's whereabouts?

[Josh Firestein]

Nothing.

[Steven Crowder]

It just would look like any routine service record, maintenance record. At this point. I don't know if she.

[Josh Firestein]

And it says plus or minus three days.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, plus or minus three days for each one of those, which is very broad to take part in assassination plot. Like, you show up, you're like, what, he's not at the grassy. No, he's here three days ago.

[Gerald]

Whenever I stalk somebody, I always. I always make sure to arrive three days later and ask about where they were.

[Steven Crowder]

It's give or take, you know, we're gonna kill them around noonish, Utah time. Utah. She does have a point though, you know. Not only that, of course, I've been paid to call her the C word, but a point with the boulevard.

[Candace Owens]

What is with them giving people a holiday after they kill them? Why is that a thing? You know what I mean? Like, oh, Martin Luther King, what about this holiday? What about this boulevard? Anyways, let me knock off. Like, they're gonna give chocolate a boulevard.

[Josh Firestein]

They already did.

[Candace Owens]

They did in Israel. They gave a freaking bullet. It's like as soon as they give you a boulevard and a holiday, holiday, they definitely killed you.

[Steven Crowder]

She's too close to the target. She has a point. When the government does a hit job and it's on the inside.

[Gerald]

I knew something was fishy.

[Steven Crowder]

Look, here's the thing. I was extended an invitation to World War Debate. It's an event in January. I accepted. As I understand it, candace Owens declined. $30,000, by the way. She can have mine. Make it 60,000. If she wants to do it, I'd be happy to sit down, have a conversation and debate where it's moderated. And if you want to open your books, we'll open our books too, to see who's paid by what. Beyond that, we're not going to do the back and forth on social media. The invitation, Mrs. Owens, is always open. Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, geez.

[Steven Crowder]

My office, right now. Wha. I swear, Sam, I'm in the middle of a show. Sam, I'm in the middle of Bashar. Stephen, I know the demands on your time are considerable, but I had to call you in here for a very serious disciplinary infraction on the show. A little bit ago, you called Candace Owens a C. T. So that was actually an either or equation. Be that as it may, this machuganuga infraction is very serious and I'm gonna have to discipline you by reading you the riot act. Please read this manual here. $70000. Stephen, I hope that you read this fully and see it out. Got, By the way, I've also been made aware that my appearance on Piers Morgan, we taped it yesterday. Will air either Thursday or Friday and more relevant than ever, given this.

[Josh Firestein]

But was there an envelope for me?

[Steven Crowder]

No, there wasn't one for. You have to reach a certain threshold.

[Gerald]

What envelope are you talking about?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, well, I think he was talking about the. I collect stamps. Yes.

[Gerald]

I actually left an envelope for you in your office, Gerald. You should open it alone.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, ignore the powdered sugar and the pictures, all right? World War debate, January. There. We can do it. Let's go on. Hey, do you guys remember this? While we're talking about this body positivity, remember we've heard for you about fat pride. Like, back when I was doing this on YouTube, like, I'd say 2014 was when it was really at its peak. That's when we were at peak. Fat pride, we've been hearing for years. And I'll get to why it's dead now. Not to mention, I mean, not the least, which a lot of them are dead. Actually dead. But it was a big thing, and the movement's dying. Take a guess as to why. We were told forever that women are beautiful, healthy, and sexy at any size. Amy Schumer has become the target for a few fat shamers out there in 2016, and the comedian isn't backing down from her message. Schumer posed with a picture of an underwear model with the caption, too blessed to be stressed that she doesn't appear to share the same physique with the woman on the poster. I've never seen magazine covers and seen music videos and been like, I need to look like that if I want to be a success. Never. I don't want to be some skinny mini with my. I like my body, and I actually.

[Female Traveler]

Don'T want to look emaciated.

[Steven Crowder]

Some people are just naturally thin, and some people have a different body. And the fact that we don't just say across the board that no matter what you look like is okay, is incredibly hard, especially for young artists.

[Gerald]

Can we talk about that term?

[Steven Crowder]

Because I think most Americans believe that term is a negative and they shouldn't use it.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

I mean, that's why I put it in the title of my book, to basically reclaim it and. And say, you know what, guys? Like, I am fat. The title of her book, by the way, is Moby Dick.

[Gerald]

Won't be Dick for sure.

[Steven Crowder]

Ah, there are plenty of dudes.

[Gerald]

Jason, what is that Moby Dick about? She ate a whale.

[Steven Crowder]

Joan is just like this. No, can't call him fat.

[Josh Firestein]

What are we supposed to call him?

[Gerald]

High calories.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. By the way, you notice there Was never really a thing for men. It was like, you can be fat and you can be attractive as a man if you're wildly successful either. Rich, Funny. Yeah, you're in the kid book of world records for piercings or something. You gotta bring something to the table. Well, we've noticed a distinct trend here. A lot of fat celebrity women, they got their hands on Ozempic and some of these new. These new weight loss drugs, and all of a sudden, body positivity, it's dead. The body positivity trend, it's gone. Fat pride is not a thing anymore. Let's bring up some before and afters. All references available, Lizzo. Let's do a then and now. Yeah. Wow. There you go. And back then, she defiantly told People magazine, okay, we all know I'm fat. I know I'm fat. It doesn't bother me. I like being fat and I'm beautiful and I'm healthy, so can we move on? And by move on, she meant move on to Ozempic and slowly. And the wait.

[Gerald]

Glad she's finally moving somewhere.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly. She was a ghostwriter for Tess Holliday's novel. In this version, the white whale is black. Mindy Kaling. Where'd she. Let's do then and now. Hey, hold on a second. Back then she wrote, wear a bikini. If you want to wear a bikini, you don't have to be a size zero. And I'm gonna try and become a size zero once I can get that in a pill.

[Gerald]

Well, you should be comfortable in your body. Yeah, is what she's saying. I'm not comfortable in mine, but you sure you look great like that?

[Steven Crowder]

Rules for thee, not for me. Kelly Clarkson, let's go 27 versus now.

[Gerald]

Yeah, she's pretty fat too, by the way.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, she's fine.

[Gerald]

Yeah, she was.

[Steven Crowder]

The point is not that these women were fat. The point is they were all saying, it's great to be fat. It's healthy. And the minute there was an instant lose weight solution, they jumped on it. Not diet, exercise. Screw that. That's patriarchy. That's societal pressure. Take an injection or a pill. Well, no, you know, I've just. I've changed my mind on that.

[Josh Firestein]

Speaking my language.

[Gerald]

Yeah, it was the minute they became healthy. They're like, ooh, this feels nice.

[Steven Crowder]

Feels nice.

[Gerald]

I can breathe.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't need my cpap.

[Josh Firestein]

Ooh, my heart's not trying to kill me.

[Steven Crowder]

She wrote in Daily Mail, too skinny, too fat, too blonde. So much blah. This is who I am. And I'M happy. Happy looks different on everyone. Happy enough to take a drug to lose the weight. That doesn't bother her. Demi lovato. Let's do 2019.

[Josh Firestein]

She needs to stop taking Ozempic now. Geez, she's starting to wither.

[Steven Crowder]

She wrote, this is my biggest fear. A photo of me in a bikini, unedited. About that big one back then. And guess what? It's cellulit. This is what I got. I want this new chapter in my life to be about being authentic to who I am, rather than trying to meet someone else's standards. Ooh, unless it's a prescription. Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom.

[Gerald]

Wait, I don't have to work.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, well, this just always about being lazy.

[Steven Crowder]

That's what this is about. And this is what we were talking about earlier. Women don't want to get married. They want to leave. They'll tell you, go to Sri Lanka, had a great time. Even after they were sexually assaulted. The big difference between men and women, this is a very. It's a very important difference. Women who know they're miserable. These women obviously weren't happy with their size. They were telling all other women they were giving advice, it's fine. Be like me. Be your authentic self. When the second they could jump at the easy out to no longer be overweight, they took it. They were giving you advice. Young women to be as miserable as they were while telling you that they were happy. That's the problem. Ask a fat guy. He'll tell you, yeah, I gotta lose some weight.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

Yeah, I do gotta lose some weight. We're gonna get some of this.

[Steven Crowder]

Those empathy we could all use.

[Gerald]

Oh, I'm not a rich celebrity that could just buy all of it.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, we can get on the black market.

[Josh Firestein]

We'll do it.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, nice. Megan Trainor.

[Gerald]

I don't want black. Was epic.

[Steven Crowder]

Megan Trainor, 2019-Now. It's the incredible disappearing woman.

[Gerald]

Jeez, she's not about that bass.

[Steven Crowder]

Look at that. And body positivity was even in all. All about that bass lyrics. I'm bringing booty back. Go ahead and tell them, skinny that. No, I'm just playing. I know you think you're fat, but I'm here to tell you, every inch of you is perfect from the bottom to the top. Except for the ones that the injections or pills shave off. That's true. Those are bad inches. And then this one is. Is obviously very telling because she went from like cute, slim, young to land whale to Now Amy Schumer, 2015. Now, guys, you could have picked a much better. She was. She was much more sizable than that. And she would get mad if anyone brought it up. She told Glamour back then, I have a belly and I have cellulite and I still deserve love. No one said you didn't deserve love. Yeah, shut up. And to catch the old D. And to not apologize, by the way. She doesn't want to apologize, but she did delete all of her fat pictures from Instagram Memory hold. All of it.

[Gerald]

John Cena will never forget, though. He was in there.

[Josh Firestein]

Did she really say to catch the old D?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, it's in there.

[Josh Firestein]

Do I know? Am I reading that correctly?

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, you are reading that correctly.

[Josh Firestein]

She wants to catch a penis.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Josh Firestein]

So she can go to Sri Lanka and that guy's probably still there.

[Steven Crowder]

You don't even need to catch them. It's like fishing with dynamite. You have to swat them away. No. Are you sure? Stop. I deserve to catch that D. I.

[Gerald]

Mean, the D's are being thrown. You just gotta work them hands.

[Steven Crowder]

Think about that. She was considered for Barbie at one point in that movie. I Feel Pretty. She's the leading sexy lady, and the equivalent male was John Cena. Think of what that man has to do to be considered attractive enough.

[Josh Firestein]

Wow.

[Steven Crowder]

Cause no men will tell you, like, yeah, yeah, we're all of equal attractiveness. No. And these women were lying to you. Now, look, there are different body shapes and sizes. We get that. And of course you deserve love. And of course, if you're a little bit bigger or maybe you're a little bit thinner, you deserve love. The point is being healthy. And if you are healthy, if you take these steps, if you exercise properly, if you eat within the bounds of nutrition, I don't mean anything extreme. Eat good food when you're hungry and stop before you're entirely full. Watch your calories in, calories out. You will be within the bounds of health. And that could be a little bit bigger. That could be a few sizes bigger. It could be a few sizes smaller. That's not what we were talking about here. We were talking about entitled women who let themselves go, who put in no effort and fixed it with a pill or a subcutaneous injection. By the way, they've all come together for a new coming of age movie. So, yeah, that's gonna be silly. Little bit. All of these women, all of them. And these people were held out as a mall, right? They were giving interviews and glamour on Megyn Kelly back then when she was doing that thing. She was on that side of the fence doing all these write ups, all of these features. No, no, no. We need to change society. We need to let women know that we're happy, we're healthy. And the second they could get out of it the lazy way they did, the one exception. And so I respect this Lena Dunham before and after is, you know, yeah, go to the now it's pretty much, oh, geez, get that broad some Ozempic.

[Josh Firestein]

I don't think it's working.

[Steven Crowder]

Can I get any of that big pharma money Ozempic? Not for me, but for her.

[Gerald]

Ooh, Lena, yum, yum.

[Steven Crowder]

I'll just be a pusher for her. And she is preparing for her new role, however, in the upcoming wizard of Oz. Redo.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Your wizard far. Adjoa and Alta am about to embark upon a hazardous and technically unexplainable journey into the outer stratosphere.

[Gerald]

You know where that one was going, by the way?

[Steven Crowder]

I'm always amazed if anyone is still listening on audio. And I appreciate. I know a lot of you are truck drivers. You miss a lot. Yeah, it was worth the price of admission alone. And it's free. Unless you're a Rumble Premium member, which, by the way, we don't get to do any of the free stuff. So I encourage you to please join Rumble Premium right there. Mug Club is Rumble Premium. Rumble Premium is Mug Club. None of this happens. No foreign dollars, no nonprofit dollars, no corporate overlords. I own everything you see here, this company, and you can try it for $9 a month. But you don't get the mug. You get everything ad free and 100% more show. So these women, and this is, this is important because I have a son and I have a daughter and I often think about this when I look at the messages that they're going to be bombarded with. He is going to be bombarded with guilt through no fault of his own because he was born a white male. She is going to be bombarded with praise through no effort of her own because she is a woman. She's beautiful, she's brave, she's perfect the way that she is. He needs to check his privilege, actually fill out a form checking his privilege. He needs to right the wrongs of the past. And the same applies to weight. Young men are not being hit with, yeah, you're healthy at any size. I would actually argue the body image issue is probably much more severe for men. If you look at the COVID of men's magazines, these are Bodies that occur nowhere in nature.

[Gerald]

And no one looks at a fat woman and says, like, a man doesn't look at a fat woman and go, I don't know if she could protect me.

[Steven Crowder]

Right, yeah, it's a good point.

[Gerald]

Women look at a fat man, they go, ah, guy. I mean, no, he doesn't have endurance, doesn't take care of himself. I need a strong man to take care of me. That's not what we look at women and say.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, well, the male fitness influencers will lie to young men about the anabolic steroids they're taking in order to try and portray themselves as working really, really hard. It's just hard work. It's just lifting heavy eating. Right. And good sleep. And that's the standard that young men feel unrealistically. They have to live up to women. The female influencers will lie to young women in doing nothing and living a life of slothfulness to convince them that, by the way, all of this is okay and we're just as healthy sitting on the couch. Two. Two very, very different standards. Even if you look at our cartoons, think about, like, young women, whatever it is that they were watching Barbie, they go, oh, the hip waist, okay. But it's not completely out of the realm of possibility. He man, I mean, Ninja Turtle, what we watch, Superman. These are unrealistic portrayals of masculinity. And I would say that with women, what we've experienced recently is unhealthy portrayals of femininity. And the second these women, and these weren't just women who happened to be big, this was their cause, this was their raison d'. Art. The second they were given an out that didn't take the work, boom, they took it. And they're gonna gaslight you and try and memory hole it and just. Well. Or they'll say, well, I'm just doing this for me. The whole through line here is being happy in your own skin. Well, if you were happy in your own skin, you wouldn't have lost 60 pounds of it.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah. By the way, it's such a double standard. I'm just thinking of the example of Alex Jones. Right. So when Alex went through his transformation recently, where he just lost a ton of weight, was hitting the gym, he had videos of himself doing it, what was the critique that people gave him? You just took Ozempic.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Josh Firestein]

That's literally the critique that people gave him was like, oh, you just did it with Ozempic. You would never hear somebody just saying, oh, you just did it with Ozempic. Generally speaking, to women who lose weight. Right, right. You would never go, oh, that doesn't. All we're saying is, like, you guys were pushing it as it was healthy and fun and you were having your best life, and you're just. Just you're not being really honest with people. That's our problem with that. But you don't make that same thing. Why? It's because of the hard work. You don't want to admit there is hard work involved and that's what it takes. And that's what Alex put in. And she had to pull it with the videos out.

[Steven Crowder]

And if a man uploads it as inspiration, that's just narcissistic. A woman uploading a self glamour picture, by the way, for validation when she's put in no work whatsoever is the beauty of femininity.

[Gerald]

It's power.

[Steven Crowder]

And imagine if young girls listen to this. Imagine if young girls listened to all these women. Then how would they feel? Hey, how would they feel now? If you're a woman right now, comment below. Are you overweight? Did you feel like these were comrades in arms? Do you feel like they kind of hung you out to dry a little bit?

[Gerald]

I would feel like they kept me complacent.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep. That I.

[Gerald]

That they gave me that confidence boost to be like, okay, yeah, no, I'm doing good. I wake up one morning, I go, man, I really should lose some of this weight. I should go on a run. I should really eat a better breakfast. Well, you know what? I am all about that base.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Yeah. You know what?

[Gerald]

I am beautiful. And this is healthy, right? I mean, if Lizzo's healthy, I'm healthy. Surely.

[Steven Crowder]

She was all about that bakery. And here's an example of how to do it. Well, and this took place before Ozempic lost 300 pounds. And again, I think deserves credit. It's a very inspirational story. And you know what? You could follow his lead. If he can do it, anyone can. Ethan Suplay the actor who you've seen in a lot of films. My name is Earl, and he was very open about it. Ethan Supley details his stunning body transformation two decades after his breakthrough roles in Remember the Titans and Boy Meets World, the actor is now showing off a dramatically slimmer figure.

[Josh Firestein]

Jeez.

[Steven Crowder]

And you know what? I guarantee he'll tell you he has some loose skin because he lost so much weight. That's what we're talking about, is you can love your body now despite its flaws. Scars. Right. Sunspots, moles, maybe a birthmark. You have Loose skin because you lost weight. Those are battle scars that show you put in the effort. You can only love your body if you have loved your body enough to take care of it enough to be disciplined. And here's the thing with a guy like that, you'll see it in every facet of his life. Ozempic doesn't build discipline. And so young women who didn't have a champion before because misery loves company, they were being given horrible advice. They still don't have one now because these women aren't championing discipline and what it takes to lose weight, which it has always taken since the beginning of time up until a few years ago. And this isn't me being antiozempic, by the way. I think we're waiting for some data to come in. But overall, if you can lose billions of pounds in this country, that would probably reduce the burden on our health care system.

[Gerald]

I don't think they shame people.

[Steven Crowder]

No, absolutely not.

[Gerald]

Because that is a problem that you look at a guy who uses Ozempic and you go, ah, well, he cheated. He's kind of a puss. He didn't do it the right way.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Gerald]

And yeah, sure, he cheated a little bit, but I imagine it's hard. I haven't taken Ozempic, but I heard it reduces your hunger. And I'm convinced that my hunger is insatiable. It would not work for me.

[Josh Firestein]

Right.

[Steven Crowder]

Let's try it. Let's see.

[Gerald]

Yeah, we'll just hook you up to.

[Steven Crowder]

Those and just see if you get the munchies or not.

[Gerald]

I got a guy.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, of course. Tool man does. Yeah, it's a. If you want to use it as a tool, even if you look at. By the way, and I hate it when people out there, men who are bodybuilders or action stars who take steroids and lie about it, like, remember the Rock? He's like, I touched it once in college and I was terrified. Right, sure you did. You're 50 years old, 30 pounds of additional muscle, and leaner than when you were 30.

[Josh Firestein]

Does that happen?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. How does that happen? No, I don't like that, obviously. But even with that being said, it is a tool. Someone like the Rock, someone like Arnold, they've had to put in a lot of work and a tool to reach super physiological doses of these anabolics or sort of superhuman like physiques that occur nowhere in nature. You add anabolic steroids, but you add anabolic steroids to a lot of work now, you'll still gain muscle, you'll look better if you just take steroids and do nothing. But you won't look like the Rock, you won't look like Arnold, you won't look like that Jack Reacher guy who also says that he doesn't do anything.

[Josh Firestein]

That's true.

[Steven Crowder]

So I don't like the lying on either side of it, but there's a difference between using something like this and, hey, you know what? Talk with your doctor. Maybe Ozempic is something that makes sense. I don't know. I have no experience with it. I don't know how bad the side effects are. My point is I'm not anti that. I'm anti lying to people in order to make yourself feel better. And we've had that a lot. And you can apply it across the board. As far as mental health, whatever prescription is offered by leftist celebrities, the opposite of that is the right thing to do. Go to therapy and you've seen the social worker, right? In the recent Change my mind. Who do you think dominates these fields? Go do this. You know what? Be a part of this kind of support group. It's probably a propaganda group. You know what? Be happy with your physique and love yourself no matter what size you are. Do the opposite of what they tell you and you will probably be better off. It's not a hard and fast rule for everything. Generally speaking, they're simply trying to make you as miserable as they are. And make no mistake, these people are wealthy, they're famous, and they're miserable. How does that happen? A lifetime of bad choices, and it doesn't stop them from dispensing advice. So fat pride. Officially dead, but better than these people dying, which is what was bound to happen.

[Josh Firestein]

Absolutely. Well, and I think too, like, we've decoupled from this idea of shaming people and some kind of. I'm gonna use the word bullying. Not complete bullying, but, like poking. Like when I wore jeans that had the fleur de lis on the back.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, I did make fun of proper.

[Josh Firestein]

Bullying that took place.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, but that came from a friend.

[Gerald]

That didn't come from a stranger. And it comes from a stranger.

[Steven Crowder]

It's uncalled for.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, so yes and no, Josh. So here's the thing. So in school, it comes from strangers, sometimes people that are not necessarily your friends. We had a society that would encourage in different ways. And yes, sometimes that got out of control. And that was what we were trying to fix. Instead, we killed the entire thing. So now everything was fine and nobody could say anything about you, including doctors. You couldn't have a doctor tell you, hey, you need to lose some weight. Does that make any sense?

[Gerald]

That's not bullying.

[Josh Firestein]

I'm not talking about. Yeah, but I'm not talking about just.

[Steven Crowder]

He's talking about the societal pressure to fat pride accepted across the board, where doctors can't even go, hey, what's your. Okay, so male, and according to the chart, obese, like, actually identify as a woman. Okay. And all bodies are beautiful. Whatever. There's a jar of pills. Take whatever you want.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, And I'm not talking about, like, actual, like, bullying, like, beating people up. I'm saying, like, the ribbing that you get from people. It's like the beginnings of bullying stages that we had, and they just killed all of it.

[Steven Crowder]

It's this simple. You don't insult people for being imperfect, okay? People are different. People come in all shapes and sizes. And by the way, there is a pretty significant variance in what can be considered healthy. That doesn't stop you from having the ideal, and that doesn't make you hypocritical. In other words, if you say, hey, that's probably how a man should look, or that's probably how a woman should look, if they're considered the picture of health, it's not hypocritical to say, yeah, I agree with that. And I could stand to lose a few. Yeah, that's okay. Instead, we went to everything is equal, and it's not. It's not according to your blood work, your lipids, according to the blood pressure monitor. It is not according to your blood sugar levels. It is not all equal. And we were advising, and I was constantly told that I was mean. I've never just gone after someone for being fat, but someone who has advocated for it deserves to be bullied. Because them being bullied, them being made fun of, is far better for young people out there who may, God forbid, actually take their advice.

[Gerald]

Absolutely right on them. Yeah, they're influencing. They're influencing a whole culture.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

And it's the same thing, by the way.

[Gerald]

On the flip side, there's responsibility to that. You have to be held accountable for Sure.

[Steven Crowder]

I can't tell you how many fake supplement companies out there where it's like, guy goes, I take this, and that's like, do this and you'll look like me. It's like, tell them about the trend that you're taking. How about that? How about that?

[Josh Firestein]

All I do is take this pill and he's hitting the gym six days a week. Why don't you just say you're hitting the gym six days a week. That's great.

[Steven Crowder]

That's like I've mentioned, you know, hey, this foundation Daily, it's the only other company that I own that I've started. It's a daily multivitamin. Will it help you lose £50? No. Will it make you look like a Greek God? No. It'll fill in the nutritional gaps and help your overall lipid profile, your heart, your brain. And if you have some aches and pains. And it's transparent, just like we are with the references. So I'm not going to make any of those promises and anyone who does is lying to you.

[Gerald]

But what if I took a whole bottle this morning?

[Steven Crowder]

You just have a really bad tummy ache.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

Well, the timer has started and you.

[Steven Crowder]

Probably would D. Do we have anything they send in? Because I know the Epstein stuff is going on this morning. We have to get going. But we didn't plan another segment.

[Josh Firestein]

No, no, no. So we'll talk about something in Mug Club here, but really quickly. Tim Pool's out today. So real America's voices are we're going to send everybody here in about five or six minutes on the Epstein thing. Right now it looks like they are going to vote on that in the House. It does look like it's going to pass. From all indications. We don't know for sure they'll release everything. Well, I think that Marjorie Taylor Greene was actually talking, talking before we went live, doing the press conference on Capitol Hill with some of the survivors and showing pictures and everything else. And for all the battle that she has been in lately, she was basically saying, like, once this goes through the House, then the real battle starts there. So I think a lot of people are thinking, okay, if it goes to the House and Mike Johnson said he's likely to vote for it. Obviously, Donald Trump has now come out and said he is for releasing those files.

[Steven Crowder]

He could just release them.

[Candace Owens]

He.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, they should. Whatever it is, he could should happen.

[Steven Crowder]

He could just do it. So it does seem a lot like.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, and maybe, maybe Republicans, Republicans wanted this win. Maybe Mike Johnson and Trump got together and said, listen, we want to go and actually vote for this so people can see that we all wanted it.

[Gerald]

That's a good point.

[Josh Firestein]

And then maybe if some Democrats don't want it or somebody doesn't, then you have a vote on record and them saying no and they have to now defend that. So maybe there's some kind of political game being played right now.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

Because then if Trump just releases it, then People could. The left could say, well, despite Republicans.

[Steven Crowder]

Caution, well, and this is the thing too. I was asked on Piers Morgan, which hopefully it doesn't get described because he asked me about Marjorie Taylor Greene yesterday. And I said, well, look, and here's the problem with right now, people say MAGA is fractured. The right is fractured. It's far less fractured than the left. By the way, if you see what happened with the government shutdown, they were basically calling for the heads of those who caved in the government shutdown. But some people right now. Which Marjorie Taylor Greene am I talking to? Yeah. And the problem is when people take two sides, two positions on every issue, no matter which one you defend against or the one that you address, then they have a group of people blissfully unaware of the 180 that they've just taken and they attack you. Am I talking to the Marjorie Taylor Greene who said, well, we can't just deport people because they have a construction company? Well, I disagree with that. I don't see how that's MAGA or Put America First. That would seem antithetical to our principles. Or am I talking to the Marjorie Taylor Greene who I think one or two days later said, we need to end H1BS? Well, I agree with that. The problem is these people take two sides of every issue. And if there's no consistency whatsoever, the through line is not far right. And old guard, though there's some of that. And people have grievances. The through line is clickbait. If you look at someone who takes positions completely antithetical to their previous position and often, by the way, is accompanied with sourcing, that is completely different than they would have used as a reference point before. That's someone who's chasing clicks who goes, wait, what H1B? Whereas here we caught a lot of flack when Elon Musk came out and supported H1BS and Vivek supported H1BS and said, Absolutely not because I don't want us to look like India. Well, now you have some people who are on board with it. Great. Elon Musk, I'm glad that he purchased Twitter. I'm glad that he turned it to X. That's a win. H1B position, not so much. So which person am I talking to?

[Josh Firestein]

And I think we have a litmus test right now that is completely unreasonable. It's important to have this included among the factors. Factors when you're deciding on stuff. But it basically comes down to did you take money from AIPAC or not? And every other opinion you hold. Really? I'll either agree with or disagree with. Dependent on that. And right now, Marjorie Taylor Greene has a lot of support from people because I think there's a zero dollar sign next to the APAC number for her. Same thing for Thomas Massie. And it's like, listen, I understand that that's important. We don't like apac. Fine. Fantastic.

[Steven Crowder]

Of course I don't.

[Josh Firestein]

Does that mean she's right on not deporting people because she owns a construction company? Is that going to really skew your thinking for that? Let's stop with the Team Jersey crap that goes on within the party saying, well, she loves that issue and that's. That means everything else is fine.

[Steven Crowder]

That's not true.

[Josh Firestein]

Donald Trump tweeted out something that I thought was mean about Thomas Massie. And I don't like Thomas Massie. And I said it and I said, listen, that's bad.

[Steven Crowder]

Trump. Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

When you talk about him getting married 14 months after his wife passed away, it's ridiculous to bring up. Unless of course, you're trying to say something specific like, like he married an Israeli spy or something like that. Then say that.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, let me give you, I talked about this with Piers, a five point prescription. Because a lot of people are going, who do I trust? I feel like I don't know now where to find the real news. Five things to do, okay? And the first three are the most important. Run people through this filter. Okay? Number one, if you're a conservative, you have to believe that the greatest threat that we face in this country is the left. They just killed one of our prominent voices for talking and they're still out there. By the way, we've had some close calls. With every change in my mind we've done, I have to go in with a team that I could take into Baghdad. It's ridiculous. Ridiculous. The left is still out there. They still want you dead. So, number one, this person, this commentator, this host, what have they done to defeat the left? We have clear examples. Scott Pressler for Crinella changed the electoral map. Charlie Kirk would be an example of someone who obviously had a great grassroots organization. Two, what kind of a coalition can this person build without compromising fundamentals? For example, let's use Israel. I believe we should stop funding all sides to that war. That includes Israel. Stop the foreign aid. Stop sending weapons at discounted rates. Okay. Think that we have too many foreign entanglements. But I also think we should stop funding, for example, foreign aid to Syria, to Jordan, to Lebanon. Okay? That kind of A position. That's a position of the American people who elect Republican presidents. Can this commentator, can this person build a coalition with that? If not, then they're not interested in winning the country. Let's take H1BS Ben Shapiro. I still. The fact that he defended it was unreal to me. When 82% of the program is antithetical to the program, you just have to scrap the program. H1BS I think we need to stand. Stop it. We need to limit immigration until we figure this out. Can the old guard daily wire build a coalition with that? If not, then these people are basically serving leftist masters. And I believe that the left is a death cult. So, number one, like I said, what have they done to fight the left? Number two, what kind of coalition can they build? Number three, will these people show up and defend themselves to hostile viewpoints? Will they defend their positions if they never do? That gives me pause here. Points four and five kind of litmus tests. Can these people take positions at face value? Meaning can this host or commentator hear a difference of opinion and not accuse him of being paid by Israel or accuse him of being paid by Qatar? In my experience, the people who lob that accusation first are often projecting. Not all the time. That's my experience. And five, I would say, and everyone out there, I would ask that maybe we should write an official pledge. Are these people transparent on their sourcing on their references? That's why we provide a bibliography every single show and have an admonishment button. Right? You should know. You shouldn't have to take the word of the host for it. So the five points, what have they done to defeat the left? Number one? Number two, what kind of a coalition can they build without compromising fundamentals? Will they show up? Will they defend their viewpoints? Will they engage in debate? Okay, can they take a position at face value without baseless accusations? And five, are they transparent with their references and or sourcing? Does that make sense? Is that a fair test to run people through? To say, all right, I think this person is acting in good faith versus chasing cliques? Because that is what both sides are facing right now. We're kind of in a post truth era, and I think that's a problem. But that's me, Mr. Old Fashioned. So we're gonna talk about, oh, this Dine and Dasher, this food influencer who's as. Sam.