Podcast Summary: Louder with Crowder — "Steven Crowder is a Deep State Agent"

Date: November 18, 2025
Host: Steven Crowder
Guests: Gerald, Josh Firestein
Episode Description:
Steven Crowder and guests dissect trending political, cultural, and entertainment stories. In this episode, Crowder confronts accusations (facetiously) that he's a "deep state agent," comments on the state of American women and feminism, unpacks the fall of body positivity, discusses dating/marriage trends with biting humor, and reviews accusations and drama involving Candace Owens.

Episode Overview

This episode weaves together political satire, critiques of feminism and Western institutions, commentary on global female travel, and a comedic yet critical look at body positivity's decline. Crowder also directly addresses public accusations from Candace Owens about his motivations and integrity in right-wing media circles.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The "Deep State Agent" Joke and Candace Owens Drama

• Crowder kicks off responding to accusations (mainly from Candace Owens) that he is somehow an operative or paid off by shadowy powers:
  • “Look, the elephant in the room is that I'm paid by Mossad or, you know, somebody to do this silly horse crap you see on the show, according to Candace.” (00:36)
• He keeps an open, mocking invitation to Owens to debate live, offering to open financial records for transparency:
  • “If you want to open your books, we'll open our books too, to see who’s paid by what. Beyond that, we’re not going to do the back and forth on social media. The invitation, Mrs. Owens, is always open.” (30:10)
• Later, Candace’s own audio clip is played—she accuses Crowder of being a “pathological liar” and references the “Egyptian plane” conspiracy. The hosts dissect and dismiss these claims as “spreadsheet” conspiracies gone wild, clarifying why such evidence is not credible. (26:45–29:03)

Notable Moment:

"How deep do you think I am? Into the deep state. And has the deep state penetrated me or do I penetrate them? I prefer to be the penetrator than the penetratee." – Steven Crowder (02:59)

2. Global Travel & “Feminism Abroad”: A Sri Lankan Story

• Crowder highlights a viral story about a solo female traveler facing harassment in Sri Lanka and uses it to critique "privileged Western feminists" who are oblivious to actual conditions for women abroad:
  • “These countries where they don't respect the rights that you think you're entitled to in the Western world… you shouldn’t travel alone.” (09:35)
  • Cites legal practices like Sri Lanka’s “two finger rule” for sexual assault victims as evidence of pervasive misogyny in other cultures compared to the U.S. (08:16)
• Commentary turns satirical as the panel mocks Western women’s shock at these realities:
  • "This is the problem that we have now is Western privileged people, largely women, are blissfully unaware of how women live across the globe. This woman was. She was surprised." (10:17)

Timestamps:

• Story setup and video: 04:33–05:48
• Cultural/risk analysis: 08:02–10:17

3. "Why 40% Of Young Women Want to Leave America"

• Crowder explores a Gallup poll revealing a spike in American women wanting to emigrate—40% of women aged 15–44, compared to 19% of men.
• Panel reacts with skepticism to women's stated reasons (misogyny, lack of protections), suggesting a disconnect from global realities:
  • “Why do you think it is? Right, because women are so mistreated in the West, as opposed to Sri Lanka, that they feel like they're in a prison of the patriarchy's making.” (11:47)
• They break down TikToks by “Femadonna” advocating for men to listen more to women, with Crowder suggesting the Western narrative doesn’t align with actual relative safety/freedom.

Timestamps:

• Poll stats: 11:25–11:47
• Analysis and TikTok reaction: 12:15–13:39
• Destination breakdown: 13:39–15:59

4. Marriage & Relationship Trends: The Gender Divide

• Crowder breaks down current relationship and marriage stats:
  • “Girls, now only 61% want to get married. 74% of men want to get married. Girls in '93, 83% of them wanted to get married… Women have dropped 20 points.” (16:47)
• He attributes declining female desire for marriage to institutional betrayals and unrealistic expectations (as reinforced by universities and social media).
• AEI survey: 45% of college-educated women say "no one meets their standards" vs. a third of college-educated men (18:50). Panel lampoons extreme dating requirements with a viral 18-point Hinge list, arguing that what men seek hasn’t changed while women’s criteria have become ever less realistic.

Timestamps:

• Stats and trends: 16:47–18:50
• Swiping through the viral Hinge list: 19:54–22:39

Notable Moment:

"If this man is fit, socially respected, well groomed, attractive and makes $300,000 a year, you have to ask yourself, what do you bring to the table that he doesn't have without you? Because you're asking him to bring a lot to the table." – Steven Crowder (22:39)

5. The Death of "Fat Pride": The Role of Ozempic & Celebrity Trends

• Crowder claims the body positivity movement has collapsed because celebrities “defected” once presented with an easy pharmaceutical fix (e.g., Ozempic, a weight-loss drug).
• Parade of before/after celebrity photos: Lizzo, Mindy Kaling, Kelly Clarkson, Demi Lovato, Megan Trainor, Amy Schumer, Lena Dunham. The hosts lampoon how these women publicly lauded "being big at any size," only to shed pounds once a shortcut emerged.
  • “We were told forever that women are beautiful, healthy, and sexy at any size… the minute there was an instant lose weight solution, they jumped on it.” (34:43)
• Crowder distinguishes between honest self-acceptance and hypocrisy, advocating discipline over “easy outs” and criticizing the media for promoting harmful messages to young women.

Timestamps:

• Body positivity background: 32:05–33:49
• Mocking the celebrity reversals: 34:43–38:04
• Summary and underlying message: 39:40–41:12

Notable Moment:

“Women who know they're miserable. These women obviously weren't happy with their size. They were telling all other women they were giving advice, it's fine. Be like me. Be your authentic self. When the second they could jump at the easy out to no longer be overweight, they took it. They were giving you advice. Young women to be as miserable as they were while telling you that they were happy. That’s the problem.” – Steven Crowder (37:00)

• Ethan Suplee, the actor, is highlighted as a positive counterexample—he lost hundreds of pounds through hard work, not drugs. (46:18–47:00)

6. Honesty, Societal Pressure, and “Good Faith” in Media

• Crowder ties the show together by emphasizing the need for honest references, self-reliance, and skepticism. He offers a five-point “prescription” on how to filter which conservative pundits to trust (57:57):
  1. Actions taken to fight the left.
  2. Ability to build coalitions without compromising fundamentals.
  3. Willingness to defend views to hostile audiences.
  4. Non-reliance on ad hominem attacks or accusations.
  5. Transparency in sources and references.

Notable Moment:

"The people who lob that accusation first are often projecting. Not all the time. That's my experience." – Steven Crowder (57:57)

Timestamps:

• Five-point test: 57:57–end

Memorable Quotes

• "You can be fat and you can be attractive as a man if you're wildly successful—either rich, funny… But you gotta bring something to the table." – Steven Crowder (34:03)
• "If you want a man who can achieve [$300,000 salary], you'll have to support him. He's not going to be able to be rich, successful, driven, and exist to support you." – Steven Crowder (19:54)
• "What am I, his maid? No, but he expects you to make the house better than if you're not there." – Steven Crowder (24:39)
• “I'm not anti-[Ozempic]… I’m anti lying to people in order to make yourself feel better. And we've had that a lot.” – Steven Crowder (49:33)

Tone & Style

• Irreverent and sharp-edged: Blunt humor and satire, especially when dissecting controversial cultural topics.
• Cynical toward mainstream media and institutional narratives
• Direct, polemical, and intentionally provocative

Additional Highlights

• The show often toggles between serious statistics/policy (e.g., immigration, dating stats, Congressional votes) and absurdist comedy (e.g., jokes about body parts during the Sri Lanka store or “reverse Super Chat” pole jokes about digital tips).
• Recurring theme: Western women are, in Crowder’s view, “spoiled” by feminist narratives, leading to culture shock when traveling or dating and causing dissatisfaction with their own institutions.
• Multiple reminders about fact-checking, references, and avoiding relying solely on influencer opinion.

Summary Table of Notable Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | Key Theme(s) | |-----------|---------------------------------------|-----------------------------| | 02:59 | "Penetrating" deep state joke | Satirical self-defense | | 09:35 | Sri Lanka travel harassment story | Feminism vs. real world | | 11:25 | Gallup poll: 40% women want to leave | Satisfaction in America | | 16:47 | Marriage stats, expectations | Gender divide | | 19:54 | Viral Hinge standards list | Dating delusion/humor | | 34:43 | Celebrity weight loss reversals | Body positivity hypocrisy | | 46:18 | Ethan Suplee hard work example | Real transformation | | 57:57 | Crowder’s “good faith” checklist | Who to trust in media |

Final Takeaway

This episode exemplifies Crowder’s trademark blend of confrontational humor and “anti-woke” commentary. Crowder and his panel puncture leftist and feminist orthodoxies, especially around body positivity and dating, while also skewering infighting and conspiracy in the right-wing media sphere. The upshot: Authenticity, frank discussion, and skepticism are, in their view, the only remedies for both personal happiness and political sanity.