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Steven Crowder
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Brian
It's the weirdest thing. It's like I was in a coma for 20 years and I'm just now waking up. How's this look?
Steven Crowder
It looks great. It's gonna work.
Gen Z Commentator
It's working.
Donald Trump (quoted)
Yeah.
Josh Firestein
What the hell are you guys doing?
Steven Crowder
The parody commercial for American Beauty.
Josh Firestein
American financing, Steven. Well, what does this have to do with financing?
Steven Crowder
It's got American in the name. I finance the flowers.
Josh Firestein
No, just please shut it down. Shut it down. Okay. This is a waste of time. Josh, put on some clothes.
Steven Crowder
I still have three more payments on the flower. No, no. Just keep throwing them. What the hell's the matter with those guys?
Brian
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Steven Crowder
NMLS 182334. Glad to be with you. As we are weekdays at 11am Eastern. You know, it's a. It says set your. Your watch. Viewing that. That used to be a thing. Now people just kind of consume things whenever they come out. And a crappy Stranger Things finale on New Year. Spoiler alert.
Josh Firestein
Don't say it.
Steven Crowder
Everyone's gay. What? Mm. I know. I was as shocked as you. My question. Hey, what's the perfect way to make steak? Any answer outside of medium rare is incorrect. Captain Morgan, CEO, how are you?
Brian
Good.
Josh Firestein
How are you?
Steven Crowder
Good. Well, actually, the way Gerald makes steaks is incorrect.
Josh Firestein
That's not true. I made it bad one time for you.
Steven Crowder
No, you made it historically bad.
Josh Firestein
I thought it was bad meat. Yeah.
Steven Crowder
It wasn't. It was just you.
Josh Firestein
I was the first person to say something. I was like, ah, we might all die. Yeah. This is rancid.
Steven Crowder
Yeah. And it was filet. Yeah. I don't. I mean, that is. Honestly, that's a skill to make that unpalatable.
Josh Firestein
Yeah. Never before and never again have I done it like that.
Steven Crowder
But we still love you anyway. And we love this next guy. Friday, January 16, at Big Laugh Comedy Club, Fort Worth, Texas. Go out, support live comedy. Watch him. Very funny guy. And he's not. Underscore Firestein on X. Josh. Not. How are. Not the person.
Brian
I'm all right. Yeah. And I definitely sear the steak. Got to sear the steak.
Steven Crowder
Yes. Yeah.
Brian
You got to give it a good sear. 2 minutes. 2 and a half minutes on each side.
Steven Crowder
Yep.
Brian
And then let it just kind of finish off on the slightly less hot.
Steven Crowder
As long as you sear it and then, you know, you keep the inside. Anywhere from, you know, you know, pink to, you know, red to slightly pink. Just not great. You'll. You'll be okay. That's all.
Josh Firestein
I didn't do any of that.
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Brian
Gerald, that's not supposed to be yellow.
Steven Crowder
Yeah, it's not. Your steak's not supposed to look like. Like JFK's liver.
Brian
No, not.
Steven Crowder
All right.
Josh Firestein
I make really good steak most of the time.
Steven Crowder
Do you? Yeah. Now he boils it. I bet it he does. He calls it sous vide. And then he sous vide. Oh, you mean you put it in a ziploc bag in boiling water.
Josh Firestein
It's not boiling.
Brian
Then he serves it in a bowl of milk.
Steven Crowder
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's fun.
Brian
Steak O's.
Steven Crowder
It's fun to point out Gerald's shortcomings.
Josh Firestein
Now, the one time I did that, hey, listen, it sucked.
Steven Crowder
So he has every opportunity. It was really, really bad. Okay, that brings us to our first story, the food pyramid. Now, my question to you is, and I know we have a lot of fitness enthusiasts who may be watching, what are your thoughts on this? And why do you think we had the food pyramid that we did for such a long time? The federal government has now rolled out a whole new pyramid, a whole new set of nutritional guidelines, which I would say is not only far more sensible, but to me it begs the question, why wasn't it always this? Here's our favorite rfk. The new guidelines recognize that whole nutrient dense food is the most effective path to better health and lower health care costs. Protein and healthy fats are essential and were wrongly discouraged in prior dietary guidelines. Diets rich in vegetables and fruits reduce.
Donald Trump (quoted)
Disease risk more effectively than many drugs.
Steven Crowder
Whole grains outperform refined carbohydrates. My message is clear. Eat real food. Though some suggest that he has ulterior motives regarding this new health plan, considering his recent team up with Wendy's, it certainly is a big bun. Very big fluffy bun. Where's the bee?
Donald Trump (quoted)
At Wendy's, you get more beef and less bun.
Steven Crowder
Where's the bee? Your Wendy's kind of people, you know, he should have to disclose.
Brian
Yeah, he should have to tell you.
Steven Crowder
That he had other motives, but it almost should have been obvious.
Brian
He seems like more of a Jack in the box guy to me.
Josh Firestein
Yes.
Steven Crowder
Now here's the thing. I know that you'll get some vegan vegetarian channels out there that will take this and clip it and complain about it and try and parse through this. But I don't want to present myself as a nutritionist or as a doctor, but I do think that we can all sort of agree on the realms, the boundaries of common sense. First off, you should be exercising. You should be training, you know, two, three times a week if you can. You should be moving every day and eat whole foods when you're hungry until before you're full. If you do that, you're probably going to solve 90% of the problems. But even the New York Times published this op ed which is in stark contrast to the leftists that you see on X and on social media. They wrote, kennedy is telling Americans how to eat. It's not crazy advice. The nutrition advice. The new nutrition advice Is, dare I say it, Overall, very sensible. Yeah. Yeah. But here's the thing.
Brian
They sound surprised.
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Josh Firestein
Whoa.
Steven Crowder
And the previous nutrition advice was not sensible at all. You wouldn't be able to justify the disproportionate servings of refined carbohydrates under the guise of whole grains, because what did that. Remember when we were kids and we watch, it would say Honey nut chip, Frosted Flakes. Part of this balanced breakfast.
Donald Trump (quoted)
Yes.
Brian
And it was a huge breakfast.
Steven Crowder
It was a huge breakfast.
Brian
It was like a Golden Corral breakfast.
Steven Crowder
Yes, it was. They'd have a glass of. Of milk, a glass of orange juice. They don't have an egg and a piece of fruit. And the cereal, like. Well, you could do all of that without this bowl of cereal. It'd be better off meal.
Brian
There was grits, there was eggs.
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Brian
It was a Pop Tart.
Steven Crowder
Usually I had the Strudels, which, by the way, was basically just. It was just apple pie for breakfast.
Josh Firestein
It was great.
Brian
Yes.
Steven Crowder
So the new pyramid, which goes kind of in reverse order. The top, meaning what you should consume the least, includes, like, grain, bread. In the middle, you have eggs, fruit. You see that there's. And then at the bottom, which I think, or this looks like it's reversed here in the opposite. I don't know if it's an inverse image, but the biggest portion would be meat, including red meat, poultry, veggies. Right. That should be the bulk of your diet, Meaning if you look at it, proteins, meats, veggies, fruits are better for you than a bunch of refined carbohydrates. I think we know that now. I think the science is in. Also, India has decided to update their own food pyramid for the good of the people. That's a little bit different. I wouldn't. But here's the thing. This is something when people talk about, are you getting what you voted for? I never would have voted for RFK Jr. To be clear, in a general election, I differ with him on too many fundamental issues. But on this issue specifically, we said this is where he could probably do a lot of good. What you have to ask yourself is, why was there such resistance to this for so long? People would point to the food pyramid. People would say, well, hold on a second. You know, meat is bad for you. You should consider a vegetarian diet. Remember when green smoothies were a big thing, which we know can actually be catastrophic for your thyroid for some people. Now, let's go through some of the claims that have been made that led us here and why we know now with the science as it's in, they were false. First claim all references available Link in the description that red meat. You heard this for a long time and you're still hearing it from some people. Red meat is bad for you. This is bad because red meat equals bad. Too much red and processed meat will increase your chances of type 2 diabetes. A diet that includes red meat raises the risk of developing cardiovascular disease and cancer, as well as health problems like diabetes and high blood pressure.
Brian
Researchers now at Harvard and MIT say.
Steven Crowder
Red meats may have a negative impact on our cognitive skills. After all, the World Health Organization has declared red meat a carcinogen. How the did steak become the healthiest food in the country? Yeah, I would argue it's always been amongst the healthiest foods, because here's the truth. The claims that you have heard for a long time, you'll find some exceptions because there are many, many, many, many studies out there. But looking at them, you know, looking at the meta analyses, looking at all of these studies, looking at the totality, the first claims that you heard that red meat was bad for you, those studies included processed meat. What that means is they compared vegetarians to the average American diet, which would include pizza with pepperoni, which would include a bologna sandwich, which would include fast food, burgers. And if you think about that, you just sort of logically walk through it. Well, yeah, at one point in time, vegetarians would have been far more health conscious than the average American eating fast food. That's not the same as somebody who is health conscious eating healthy proteins in comparison to a vegetarian. When you look at those, you actually see that one will be deficient in certain key nutrients and one won't. By the way, I'm not advocating for carnivore or vegetarianism. I actually think that this food pyramid is a pretty damn good place to start for most people and very feasible when you actually separate out the unprocessed from the processed red meat, meaning pepperoni, burgers, fast food from steaks, for example, or liver. You actually look at the literature and it says weak evidence of association between unprocessed red meat consumption and colorectal cancer, breast cancer, type 2 diabetes and heart disease. Meaning once we said, okay, someone's eating steak and rice or steak and veggies, or maybe eating, you know, chicken breast and soup. Let's take this, let's compare it to a vegetarian diet. Oh. Turns out not only is it kind of a wash as far as health, overall, these people are stronger, more athletic, and seem to perform better. It's not by the way, diets are unique. Some people react better to certain foods than others. But we were told for a long time. Remember that rumor? It used to be John Wayne died with like 20 pounds of impacted fecal matter in his colon because of all the red meat. It wasn't true.
Brian
What?
Steven Crowder
Yeah, that was a big thing. Tell me if you guys remember that growing up. The whole colonics movement, colonics, the detox thing, your body does it very effectively. Just to be clear, here's another truth. You always were taught color means nutrition. Well, you actually get more nutrition that's available to your body from high quality meats than most vegetables. So let me give you some examples of this. Compared two vegetables, red meat. They have. You've heard this micronutrient. That was a big trend where people juicing it was micronutrient diet. You actually get more in most good high quality lean meats and they have a much higher bioavailability. That means they have more iron, more zinc, B12. A lot of people try to make up for B12 with algae like spirulina. Turns out that's an analog, meaning your body can't actually use it. There's a different form of vitamin A in meat. People know that retinol versus beta carotene. Retinol is readily absorbed. Beta carotene has to be converted. Some people can actually put it through the conversion process. It's why you can actually overdose on retinol, but you can't on beta carotene. Your body craves the nutrients in meat. Put it this way. If you were to only eat red meat, maybe liver, red meat for the rest of your life, you could do it wouldn't be ideal. If you were to only eat vegetables, kale, spinach, you would see your health erode pretty quickly. Pretty quickly. If you weren't supplementing with B12. That's a pretty good indicator as to what your body wants. There's also a case to be made historically that human beings evolved once we learned how to cook meat, discovered fire. That's what allowed our brains to develop. Your brain is comprised of mostly fat. Your brain needs fat. You don't get that from kale. Also, kale sucks.
Brian
I don't care when you're gonna get.
Steven Crowder
To that point, turn it into chips, or you say like cauliflower. It's just like eating w. Just like eating buffalo wings. No, it's not. And I could hurt you. We should.
Brian
Kale sucks. A lot of vegetables suck.
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Brian
Can I list them?
Steven Crowder
Yes.
Brian
Collard greens. That's disgusting.
Steven Crowder
Not good.
Brian
Yeah, beets. Gross.
Steven Crowder
You're right.
Josh Firestein
Yeah. Hate beets.
Brian
Etc.
Steven Crowder
There's more, there's more. Beets taste like dirt. I know they're good for you, but.
Brian
They look like they always have dirt on them.
Steven Crowder
They always do.
Brian
Potato comes out, a carrot comes out. They're both grown in the ground. They come out. They, they don't look like they're. Well, russet's the brown. But they don't know they have dirt on them. Beets always look dirty.
Steven Crowder
Yeah. And they always taste dirty.
Josh Firestein
Yeah, they taste terrible sometimes when they cube it and you've got like cubes of like sweet potatoes or something like that in there. So you've got a potato and you eat it like, oh, that's really good. And then you go, and the next one's a beet. It pisses me off.
Donald Trump (quoted)
Yeah.
Steven Crowder
Well, I can tell you this, you know, I've done blood work like clockwork because, you know, some stuff that I have to deal with health wise. And I've done the experimenting on my own body and I went through a period of time where I actually did the whole juicing thing, the smoothie thing, and it put me on thyroid medication for a very long time. Why? Because of the oxalates I found out in the spinach, in the kale. I was not doing very well. My gut was all messed up. And finally my doctor said, what were you doing before that? I said, I don't know, like a steak. And there might be a side. Like might be some potatoes, might be some vegetables. Said, go back to doing that. Went back to doing that. My lipids went back to normal, I felt better, my stomach was fine. And I don't take thyroid medication anymore.
Josh Firestein
There you go.
Steven Crowder
So there you go. Like I went through this. That doesn't mean it'll be the same for everyone. But I did what people said would make you healthier. And it begs the question why. Also, we have been told that alcohol in any capacity is pure poison, by the way, wake and bake. But the good news is booze is back on the menu and that's responsible. Of course, I'm misrepresenting this, but hear Dr. Oz say it. So alcohol is a social lubricant that brings people together. In the best case scenario. I don't think you should drink alcohol.
Brian
Yeah, real close.
Steven Crowder
It does allow people an excuse to bond and socialize. And there's probably nothing healthier than having a good time with friends in a safe way. If you look at the blue zones for Example, around the world, where people live the longest, alcohol is sometimes part of their diet against all amounts taken very judiciously and usually in a celebratory fashion. So there is alcohol on these dietary guidelines, but the implication is don't have it for breakfast. What? Why not? He's ruining my brunch. Said Brian Stelter.
Donald Trump (quoted)
Straight return of the fact.
Brian
Oh, my God. Return of the stack now is inaccurate, by the way. Some and not everybody's drinking for a social lubricant. Some people are just trying to forget their past.
Steven Crowder
That's true.
Josh Firestein
That is true.
Brian
Some moms are just trying to get through the day.
Steven Crowder
Yeah. All right. Yes. I always learned you only drink to make a good day better or to erase a bad one. So you.
Brian
So why would you do it in the morning?
Steven Crowder
Yeah, you just do it in the morning.
Brian
It's celebratory. He said celebratory. I wake up. Wow. God made Earth.
Steven Crowder
Yeah. Well, I'm sorry that I was planning for the future by drinking preemptively. Yeah.
Brian
How am I supposed to enjoy lunch?
Steven Crowder
No, but the truth is, look, if you don't drink, don't start. You have to work today. There's probably no discernible health benefit to drinking outside of the social benefits, but there is something to be said for that. And then if you contrast that with the reason that a lot of young Americans find themselves in dire financial straits beyond the way the system is rigged, and we've talked about this in the housing market, how we could correct it, Food delivery service people don't have the third place. There's a very big difference between a pub, a public house. You go, you have some food, you play darts, you talk with your friends, and binge drinking. A booze cruise, spring break. And I think that America has gotten that wrong. That's where Europe may, God forbid, have actually gotten something right. Where kids would drink wine with their meals. In France, they would have table beer. In Belgium, they actually studied table beer, giving them to giving table beer, meaning a low alcohol percentage, beer to children in Belgium, in comparison to soda. And the kids who drank table beer performed better.
Josh Firestein
It's true. They were happier.
Steven Crowder
They were much happier.
Brian
So were the months they went to bed earlier.
Steven Crowder
So are the monks, the monks who would go on fast. They could drink as much beer as they wanted. That's an easy ass. Fast.
Brian
That's a BS fast. It's like you get a drink of beer.
Steven Crowder
That's food, especially Belgian beer. It's like 11%. Yeah. You weren't talking to God you were talking to the cutout. You're talking to the stained glass. That was the janitor.
Josh Firestein
Shave our heads, but leave it on the sides. Okay, okay, hold on.
Steven Crowder
And here's the thing. I think you're a grown adult. You can, you can put in your body, as long as it's not harming someone else, within reason. I don't think we should legalize black tar heroin. I understand that there are some legitimate uses for cannabis products, mainly low thc, high cbd, but I get it. And we've talked about that. But the problem is that we've told young people one is medication. Right? We were raised, we were part of that generation. Well, weed is less harmful than alcohol and that transpired to wake and bake, get medicated. Here's a strain that'll make you more productive at work. Here's a strain that'll help you sleep. We've never had this kind of bombardment societally for booze. You've never been told, get up and drink a fifth of Jack. That's never been the case, but now it's been reviled to the point where a lot of young people aren't really going out and socializing. So there may be some consequences that were unforeseen. Here's actually someone from Gen Z who's not happy about it.
Gen Z Commentator
Now, for everyone else who does not have a substance abuse problem, why are you sober? Why are we 23, acting like we're 65? See so many videos on my timeline of like, oh my God, postgrad in a new city. How do I make friends? And then I go to their page and they're doing Day in the Lives where they go to bed at 9pm dude, you are boring, bro. That's doing that's so important. You have to be sober. You have to wake up at 5:00am you have to do a three hour workout. Are you in the NFL?
Josh Firestein
No.
Gen Z Commentator
Are you working in some lab 16 hours a day curing cancer?
Steven Crowder
No.
Gen Z Commentator
You're 23 years old, working a corporate job and you lift weights sometimes. I promise you it's okay to drink and have fun and go out and make new friends. This sobriety culture really needs to end. I think it's doing more harm than good when you're 20.
Brian
I think this guy's lonely.
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Gen Z Commentator
Your body is built to with tired of drinking. With millennials, you're not so important that you're above drinking 2026. We need to bring back drinking and having fun. Because honestly, I am sick of this.
Steven Crowder
And I understand where he's coming from, I would correct one thing. Don't drink because you're young. That would lead you to drink in a way that says, hey, I'm young and could be a problem. If you are going to drink, drink in a way that you could do so in a lifelong way. Same thing with diet. Pick something that's sustainable, that's reasonable, that can actually be a lifestyle into your 60s. And I do think that that's. We've sort of seen this sort of fractioning of music, of media where we don't really have those water cooler moments anymore. The same thing happens with approaches to health. You see this with influencers. It's either all about the glutes and ass and six pack when you're in your 20s and that's not sustainable. And then these people just completely let themselves go. Used to be a culture of physical fitness, right? Physical culture is what it was called. I'd like to see us go back to that. You don't need to be on the COVID of Men's Health, but you also shouldn't be a Fat pride activist. Eat sensibly. If you're going to drink, do so sensibly. And I do think that socializing is pretty important. Make some little changes and I mean maybe maybe do food delivery a little bit less. Maybe go out to eat or even go to pick up your food. Plan times with friends and social gatherings. That is a very important component. Matter of fact, to give you an idea, there was an anomaly with, I believe it was the fda. Someone can correct me on this. Where they studied tobacco. Now smoking cigarettes, bad. Aside from the fact that it makes you look really cool, super cool. So when they separated cigarettes and cigars and pipes, totally different outcomes. And I believe they categorize this as two cigars per day or less or six pipefuls of tobacco a day or less, which is not a small amount. The all cause mortality increase was negligible and pipe smokers on average lived four years longer. Now this is not a precise study because you're looking at people over their lifespan. But they theorize that maybe the benefits, the meditative, the relaxation benefits of smoking a pipe outweigh the negligible health outcomes because you're not inhaling it, you're not harming your lungs. That was something that really kind of surprised people and there was no way around it. They just had to say, well, don't smoke and you probably shouldn't smoke. But we do need to be honest because if you tell kids, hey, all alcohol is bad, if you Tell kids there's no benefit whatsoever to insert chemical A, B, C here. Guess what? They're gonna want to try it. And they're gonna think that you've been lying to them. For proof, See Reefer madness. Let's just not repeat this across the board. And you don't have to have an unhinged diet. Like I said. Do we already play as rfk actually discussed who has the most unhinged eating habits?
Brian
The president.
Steven Crowder
Which is McDonald's. And then, you know, candy and Diet Coke. But he eats, drinks a Diet Coke at all times. He has a constitution of a deity. I don't know how he's alive. I watched him reach in the air vent and eat a live snake. It was alive while he ate it. That's it. You guys let me know what your diet habits are. You guys let me know the direction you think we should go. And why do you think we had the food pyramid that we did? How do we get it so wrong for so long? And I think, you know, lobbyists. I think, you know, our industry is. Our supply chain is not even set up, let alone our delivery. Our delivery logistics for whole foods. This way, it really is set up for processed cereals, grains. And this is going to have some economic impacts. But you know what? Is anyone going to argue against this? That this is better for the United States? You're a parent, and you're going to teach your children, okay, this is the food pyramid. Are you happier? I will tell you, I very, very much am. Since my little ones were young, they've been eating liver. They've always had a serving of meat with their food. They get lots of fruit and veggies. And if they want to have some treats after that, provided they're not overweight, okay, fine. But I make sure that the non negotiables are meat, fruits, and veggies. But you can kind of accomplish it with fruit.
Josh Firestein
Yeah, no, I think it's just. It seems like a balanced approach. Geez.
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Josh Firestein
Who thought that that would be the problem? Like, I. I have a problem with. And by the way, sorry, I have some allergies that I'm dealing with right now, but I have a problem with.
Steven Crowder
The guy saying, eat a steak, you pussy. Oh, it's my fault.
Josh Firestein
I have a problem with saying, like, you know, this sobriety culture, like, don't. Don't get hung up on the words. He's not talking about sobriety in general. Like, hey, go get drunk. He's like, this culture of, like, I' completely avoiding any alcohol. Like, Going and having a beer with your buddies. Beneficial. Relieves stress, also gives you some social kind of bonding. You get to kind of get outside of your own head just a little bit better for your mental health. Staying in your apartment and just kind of going, well, at least I'm not drinking. That's not great.
Steven Crowder
No, it's not.
Josh Firestein
Don't make that trade off, I think is what he's saying.
Brian
Yeah. If you stay in your apartment all the time, how are you going to accidentally call somebody a slur and get into a fight?
Steven Crowder
Exactly.
Josh Firestein
That's true. And how will you know the true depth of your abilities?
Steven Crowder
I'd say what that happens to me when I stay alone in my apartment and also drink. It just happens with a mirror.
Brian
Oh, really?
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Brian
Dangerous bite.
Josh Firestein
It is.
Brian
Glass hurts.
Steven Crowder
It does. Yeah, it does, but I don't feel it.
Brian
Well, that's cuz you're drunk.
Steven Crowder
And that's what's the. I know that's one thing when I drink a lot, you know, I almost feel invincible. It's a superpower. Try it, kids. No, I'm joking. And just so you know, YouTube won't understand that that's a joke. So download the rumble app. Follow me there. Because don't smoke. It doesn't actually make you look cool. Except it does. And you are not invincible when you drink. Except for the fact that you are all right.
Brian
Yeah, you kind of are.
Steven Crowder
Speaking of not invincible. Oh, they're talking about ice right now on cnn. Look, they're rolling these clips. We're gonna get to the propaganda in a second. They always choose an endpoint and an out point so they can lie to you. But Iran is still going on. You're witnessing a revolution in real time. These aren't protests. This is a revolution. And I will tell you this, keeping your word is something that absolutely defines you. And so regardless of where you line up on foreign intervention, on whether it's in America's best interests, right, Iran having a different government than they do right now, the Islamic regime. Let's get to individual responsibility. If you make a promise, you need to keep it. And that is an issue right now that Donald Trump needs to grapple with. This is true, by the way, across the board, not just politics. In your relationships in business, period, you make a promise, keep your word, just do that always. That's a good rule of thumb, if nothing else. Your golden rule should, if you give some. It should be if you give someone your word, keep it. This brings us to Donald Trump telling the people of Iran that He would support them. And then yesterday, in no uncertain terms that the United States, he doubled down and said that we would support the revolutionaries in Iran.
Donald Trump (quoted)
And by the way, to all Iranian patriots, keep protesting, take over your institutions if possible, and save the name of the killers and the abusers that are abusing you. You're being very badly abused if the numbers are right. Now I hear five different sets of numbers. I hear numbers, look, one death is too much, but I hear much lower numbers. And then I hear much higher numbers. But I say save their names because they'll pay a very big price. And I've canceled all meetings with the Iranian officials until the senseless killing of protesters stops. And all I say to them is help is on its way. You saw that I put tariffs on anybody doing business with Iran. Just went into effect today.
Brian
You did say the US would get involved if Iran started killing protesters. They have, by the many thousands, according to reports.
Donald Trump (quoted)
Well, we'll see what that is. I've heard two numbers, but we'll see what that is.
Brian
Well, now we're hearing that they're going to start hanging protesters tomorrow. So it comes back to the question, have they crossed your red line or.
Steven Crowder
As the line moved?
Donald Trump (quoted)
I haven't heard about the hanging. If they hang them, you're going to see some things that I don't know what you're, where you come from and what your thought process is, but you'll perhaps be very happy.
Brian
What do you mean by that?
Donald Trump (quoted)
We will take very strong action if they do such a thing. We will take very strong action.
Steven Crowder
Okay, so that seems pretty definitive to me. Now, strong action doesn't mean at this point diplomacy or words. Right. Considering that we understand where we are now. That being said, the protests are continuing to escalate. We are now two and a half weeks in and it's, it's kind of coming down to the wire. It's go time. Now to be clear. I also made sure to point this out yesterday. It's really hard to know the death toll. Yeah. All I know is that it shot up from 500 to. Alright, it's at least 2000 minimum in the span of a day. The low number that we're seeing right now is 2,400. And the high number we're seeing is 12,000. I've seen some people claim 16,000. I've seen some People claim zero. Those are outliers. Call it 2,400 to 12,000 people.
Josh Firestein
Yeah, well, I've heard some other numbers because of some people that you'll Figure.
Steven Crowder
Out which crowd there.
Josh Firestein
And one of them said, 99 million people have been killed in Iran. We have to go in there right now. And then the reply from Jake Shields was, I heard it was closer to 6 million. Okay, yeah, that crowd is out there in force. They believed everything the Gaza Ministry of Health said. Took it, lock, stock, and hey, this is God's honest truth here. But not one word coming out of Iran. Do they believe. They didn't believe protests in some cases.
Steven Crowder
Well, they'll take the inverse note. They'll try and, and they'll try and gaslight you into the inverse of reality. They'll go, oh, people who didn't care about human rights for a long time in Gaza. It's interesting that they care now about Iran. Well, one also involves the United States best interest. And I don't know if you see the commonality, but the commonality is two death cults with the Islamic regime and Hamas also money exchanging hands. This idea that it's inconsistent to say, okay, Israel and Hamas are fighting a war and that's not our fight, but Iran, who has threatened the United States repeatedly and killed, by the way, many American troops, people forget about that. This is something that does affect us as to whether we should intervene. I understand that's a legitimate conversation to have. But you cannot start off with a lie. You have some people saying, ah, it's not actually going on. None of this is real. There's no conflict in Iran. Yeah. Imagine someone like that being president. Hey, here you go. Here's a death toll. We don't know what it is, but we know that this would be the time to take action. No, it's not happening.
Brian
Well, what do I do with these bodies?
Steven Crowder
Yeah, they don't exist. Don't try and gaslight me. Right. Like, let's try and frame it that way. So irrefutable. Today, Iran's judiciary chief, which means nothing, said that the government would, quote, prioritize speedy trials for those who committed acts of terrorism. The first execution is set for today. It's irfan Sultani. A 26 year old was arrested one week ago. No legal representation, no trial. And a family member told CNN saying, our demand now is that Trump truly stand behind the words he said because the Iranian people came to the streets based on those statements. An unarmed population trusted these words and is now under gunfire. I beg you, please do not let him be executed. And obviously my heart goes out to this woman and it's terrible. And this is a regime that could not care less about human rights. It's not fully accurate because people took to the streets, which took to the streets, they sent them to Brazilian. They took to streets. They took to the streets, which prompted President Trump's response. Now, if you mean more people took to the streets because Donald Trump said that we would, you know, we would back you up. Okay, but let's be really clear with our words here. And this, this really does reflect a situation that's pretty, pretty serious. So far, the retaliation, the actions from President Trump have just been economic. Right. 25% tariff on any country doing business with Iran. Okay. That obviously sends a message, but it's a very long term solution to a very short term, acute problem. If we were in a world where Donald Trump did not promise anything, we'd still be at the point, assuming you acknowledge reality that there is a revolution, we'd still be at the point of, is it in our interest to do anything? We are not there now because Donald Trump said that we would do something that's important because you don't want to repeat. Remember, this is what happened with the kurds. Remember George H.W. bush called on the Kurds to revolt against the Iraqi regime right in Saddam Hussein. And then we kind of hung them out to dry. They were slaughtered. They were all slaughtered. And this was a pretty formative moment for me as a kid because I was raised in Canada and I remember everyone obviously opposing the Iraq war, but they hated George W. Bush. And I remember them saying, well, why is he going in there? At least Saddam Hussein, he kept things in order. He kept. Right. So now we just destabilize it. But I was going, wait, hold on a second. Didn't you also say that the Bushes hung the Kurds out to dry, that we should have gone in and helped them when you were blaming them? Yeah. Oh. So it seems to me like the only constant here is no matter what your political opposition does, they're wrong. You need to go help the Kurds. But now you're saying that Saddam Hussein at least kept things lawful, organized, including the slaughtering of the Kurds. And the issue there is when people step forward because they expect you to go into battle with them or to help them, you are partially responsible for their deaths, if that's what ensues. This also happened, by the way, with the Hmong there, with the. They were going to be fighting the North Vietnamese. The CIA recruited them. Also the Laotian Communists. The Laotian communists. I have to say it with the right twang. After the fall of Saigon, the US abandoned them as a result 10,000 were slaughtered. That's not to say that Vietnam was anything other than a mistake and the way that we carried it out. But we do need to be a nation that keeps our word. Otherwise our own allies will cease to trust us. So what does Iran need, for example, before military intervention? They need organization. They need communications. Internet. Elon Musk has been helping with that. They need intel. They obviously would like some kind of military support. Here's what they don't need. Cringy crap like this. This picture. Please stop.
Brian
Who does that help?
Steven Crowder
Her. She thinks, you know, be more effective. Just post a. Just post. Kill the Ayatollah. Yeah, let's just try and be straightforward with our views at this point. Not a cigar. And look, it's. I'm ominously lighting it with a picture of it. Stop this.
Brian
Oh, she had a cigar. Yeah, yeah, I didn't even notice that part of it. I thought she was just lighting a picture on fire. Oh, there's a cigar.
Steven Crowder
Yeah, she's lighting her cigar with a picture of the.
Brian
That's, by the way, a terrible. A terrible sweater to be wearing while.
Steven Crowder
Yes, it's also a terrible way to light a cigar. First off, it's a longer process than just using a lighter. Also, you don't want to be smoking. Smoking ink.
Brian
No. Yeah, it's gonna get in there.
Josh Firestein
Use the cigar to light the picture. That's a possibility.
Steven Crowder
No, it doesn't work.
Brian
This is like a chicken and the egg thing.
Josh Firestein
So you know what? You know what else they need?
Steven Crowder
They need people.
Josh Firestein
Look, you want to question the number of people killed, I'm totally fine with that, by the way. I just don't think saying 99 million or 6 million or it's the Jews, and I don't trust any numbers coming out of there is really productive right now. But, you know, it'd be great. I don't know, maybe the same thing you were asking for in Gaza. Let reporters in.
Steven Crowder
Right.
Josh Firestein
Let international people go in there and tell us what's really going on and make sure that the population can communicate. Those are the same things that you were asking for. Totally different circumstances. I understand it, but if you're going to be consistent, you cared about the people in Gaza, you don't care about the people in Iran. I get it. Just maybe say that instead of calling us out for saying the exact opposite thing. I guess even though it was a war, you want there to be communication, you want there to be journalists, you want there to be accurate information so the world isn't slip walked into a war again, where they just kind of go, oh, yeah, I trust everything that's being said by these guys. Okay, well, let's ask for that instead. Right now it's pithy tweets about 99 million. Scott Horton and Jake Shields, 6 million right after that. And Dave Smith going out there, and.
Steven Crowder
I can't believe these guys say they.
Josh Firestein
Didn'T, they didn't care about anybody in Gaza. Now all of a sudden, they care about Iranians. I'm like, well, Dave, you cared about Gaza. What you're telling me is you don't care about Iranians. So what are we doing? Is anybody consistent out there?
Steven Crowder
Yeah, I think that's, I think that's far more inconsistent than saying we need to treat this international death cult as what it is. That's what the Islamic regime in Iran is. And look, you can say that the nation of Israel did not approach that well at all. As far as the war in Gaza, you absolutely. And those are legitimate criticisms. And by the way, we can have an AIPAC conversation separately. And I would agree with you as far as the influence and as far as people having to register under all of that. But that doesn't change the fact that the through line here is a death culture. I mean, anywhere Islam has grown, anywhere Islam ever throughout human history has become in charge of the government. This is what you see. It's just a matter of time. And it's not lost on me that that very likely could happen in Iran 20, 30 years from now again. But here's where we are right now in real time. Which also brings us to. Actually, this surprised me. You know, Kalshi, where you can do the betting lines, they actually have right now, the lines going as far as Ayatollah, when he would be out as supreme leader. And the odds are before. Before February. February 1, 22%. Before April 1, 48%. Before July 1, 56%. That's odd to me, 22% seems really low because either some. I would imagine that if something's going to happen, if the United States is going to intervene, it is going to be before February 1st.
Josh Firestein
I would imagine it'd be pretty quick. But he may be able to hang on to power for just a little while. I don't know. It's. It's hard to see, but I mean, it's like such a low chance. 22%.
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Josh Firestein
So maybe I haven't done the betting stuff yet. I'm going to go in and try.
Brian
Well, if you go, if you, you know, money on. Yes, That's a. That's a big payday. Y. Yeah.
Josh Firestein
So.
Brian
Hey, nice sound effect there.
Steven Crowder
There you go. And this brings us to something that I really wanted to get into and discuss today. We've talked about this. We always try and make sure that you don't just take our word for it. We make all the references available. We try to hold ourselves to account. I would encourage everyone else out there creating content to do so because we are in an era of. We know, we lived through mainstream media, cnn, abc, NBC, cbs, msnbc, all of that for a long time and they were dishonest. But now it doesn't matter what the issue is. You have people simply fabricating out of thin air stories that never took place, videos that don't reflect what actually was happening or denying things going on as though they don't exist. Whether that's foreign policy, whether that's ICE or the Jews. In every capacity, everyone now is chasing clicks, clicks, clicks. And the problem is not just these people lying. But then when you read the comments and the replies, you see so many people who believe it. And some of the most viral posts have been flat out fabricated or completely false. It's time for, I guess, new media malpractice. As we said, all references available. So first let me address this. Yes, the original smoking girl picture, the picture of a Ron, it was taken in Canada, not Iran, okay? She's an Iranian exile. She's, I guess, what do you call an exilee. She's living in exile in Canada, okay? Which by the way, isn't all that much better. So people will use that and say, see, this is propaganda, therefore none of it is real. And then that opens the door to other serious propaganda that is not just misleading. It is deliberately designed to lie to you so that you will form your opinions on non reality. And if you form your opinions on non reality, that means that you are forming your opinions. You are starting from the groundwork of the reality chosen by and brought to you from the propagandist. Here's an example. The helicopters above Tehran. This video went out all over the place. Saying this is Tehran right now. Hundreds of thousands of Iranians are there to show their support for Iran and condemn the rioters. Turns out that that was propaganda. That was not even a real video.
Josh Firestein
Well, so the question that we have is like, it doesn't seem like a real video. Did he Photoshop himself into that was the streets stuff? It looks like the street stuff is kind of real. It doesn't look like that's fake. But the Helicopter stuff looks kind of fake.
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Josh Firestein
So is he just doing it for cloud or is he doing it for anything else? We don't know. But when you see something like that, you go, can I trust any of this? I have no idea. Right.
Steven Crowder
And there are some other examples. It gets really bad with ice.
Josh Firestein
Yeah.
Steven Crowder
We're going to try and give you some fabricated examples and then examples of people just choosing an in and an out point to paint a narrative that doesn't really exist. So the question becomes, is this reality or is Iran using propaganda to manifest a reality that they prefer? I don't know for certain. What I do know is that I have recently conquered my fear of spiders and I can prove it. So.
Josh Firestein
Wow.
Steven Crowder
I'm a change man.
Brian
No, that's nice. I've actually. My Broadway career is starting to take off.
Steven Crowder
Really?
Brian
As well.
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Brian
Golden batter, crispy from the fryer A stick of magic sets my heart on fire. Sweet and savory on this wooden wallet.
Steven Crowder
Yeah. Well, you look good there. Yeah. And good enough for me.
Josh Firestein
Yeah.
Steven Crowder
I'm happy to say I've.
Brian
I've honestly reached new heights in my life as well.
Steven Crowder
Really? Yeah. All right.
Brian
Sun's out.
Josh Firestein
Time to let these run. I haven't seen daylight since last summer.
Steven Crowder
Whoa. Look at those legs.
Brian
Look at them.
Josh Firestein
Yeah.
Steven Crowder
Good for you. Good for you. I'm a happy prey. Needle staff. As far as that. Yeah.
Josh Firestein
There's a just. I just wanted to clear. He has one more. That's okay. On that day.
Steven Crowder
No more I am deserted all like man. No more. I'm not. I would not be your man. I would not carry a purse. I would not will make up. I would like it.
Josh Firestein
I will.
Steven Crowder
Grock says that last one's fake.
Brian
Yeah, that's gotta be fake. When you turned your head, the whole face was all sideways.
Steven Crowder
Grok can confirm all of the others that one's fake. And I'm disappointed. Don't be afraid to do a little better, Gerald.
Josh Firestein
I'll try harder.
Steven Crowder
But this moves us on to the next story. There have been a bunch of stories that many people on the left believe in. This matters. Because they'll often use these false stories as grounds to commit acts of violence. For example, you have people in this country who believe that Charlie Kirk was, my God, an actual Nazi. Hopefully. You guys see, you know, this whole idea that sticks and stones may break my bones. No, no words. Especially as they travel these days. They absolutely can result in the serious harm or death of people. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't be able to speak freely? Absolutely you should. But you need to be very aware and very diligent in the information that you consume. Because I watched entire groups of people, we're in all of these groups, we've infiltrated all of them. Who actually believed that Charlie Kirk was a Nazi who would support the carrying out of a holocaust. And now you see people who believe that ICE are the literal Gestapo simply assaulting American citizens. Many Americans are afraid as ICE agents demand papers and at times put American citizens in handcuffs. As agents try to restrain the woman and place her in their vehicle, she can be heard pleading to agents and screaming to those watching that she is an American citizen. A 79 year old business owner says he was body slammed and pinned to the ground by federal agents during says he was a US Citizen. The latest video to send shockwaves from San Diego immigration court through the immigrant community is actually not of an immigrant, but a 71 year old US citizen. So you've heard a lot of these stories. Remember Maryland man Abrego Garcia? Let's go through these to see if they're legitimate. Let's go through a few examples. Here's the first one. In Los Angeles, Keith Porter Jr. Was shot and killed by an off duty ICE agent. You were told, according to the Department of Homeland Security, the off duty ICE agent heard gunfire near his apartment and went to check it out. That's when DHS says the officer encountered Porter holding a long rifle. Advocates say Porter's gunfire that night was his way of observing the holiday.
Brian
What?
Josh Firestein
Yes, it was illegal, but at the.
Brian
End of the day it's American tradition.
Steven Crowder
But the allegedly ordered Porter to put down the weapon and when he didn't comply, DHS says the off duty officer.
Brian
Fired his service gun.
Steven Crowder
The agency claims Porter fired three rounds at the off duty agent before he was. Wait, what that. Okay, that is. Was that a vigilant or a seance? It's a far cry from Ouija board.
Brian
Bring him back.
Steven Crowder
So the way this was framed, attorney Ben Crump wrote on X, Keith Porter Jr. Was a father of two, a son and a brother whose life was stolen by an off duty ICE agent. His family gathered in grief. Demand the truth. We will continue to stand with Keith Porter Jr. S family until there is justice, transparency and answers. Well, here are a few answers. The obvious one. Gunfire out there in a public space, whether celebratory or for any other reason is illegal. Don't know if you know that. He was told to stop firing the gun in the air by said agent. And then Porter Allegedly aimed said gun at the ICE officer. In response, one person heard someone demand repeatedly that Porter quote, put down the rifle. So this also begs the question, and I don't think the common sense can just be the basis for any argument, but I do think it is applicable contextually. If you are shooting a real gun into the air and you are asked to stop and you aim it at said person, whether knowingly or accidentally, how do you think that's going to go? Like, what do you think is the most likely situation to transpire? We can say the same thing about hitting an officer after taunting them and impeding them and obstructing traffic all day. It doesn't mean that it's the ideal outcome. But let me ask you genuinely, if you were shooting a gun, let's say you were shooting guns into the air. Let's actually scale it back. Let's say you were shooting guns with blanks into the air, celebrating, but they looked like real guns and an officer didn't know and he said, hey, stop doing that. And you didn't, you didn't even aim it at him, but you just looked at him and went bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. What do you think would happen to you?
Brian
I mean, that's like the reason why cops have guns. Yeah, it's kind of because other people have guns and they fire them.
Steven Crowder
Yep.
Brian
That's like, that's the most clear cut case.
Steven Crowder
And it does.
Brian
Why did he get shot? Oh, he was firing a gun.
Steven Crowder
Yeah. If the left had an example, whether it was Black Lives Matter and I've said this, or now of an American citizen sitting, waiting for a bus, abiding by the law, getting the crap kicked out of them, you would see it. That would be the reason for the marches. That would be the reason. That would be the catalyst for these movements. The reason it's not. And it always ends up being a story that comes to light, whether it was George Floyd, whether it was Mike Brown, the lie, hands up, don't shoot. Is because that's still the best they can come up with. And there are entire courses taught on police brutality, driving while black. Why don't you have any of these examples? And if you did, why do you pick these stories to turn into martyrs? Let's go to the second example. This one is really bad. It's also funny. So Sunday, a man at an anti ICE protest, and then I'll give you the commentary, was allegedly rammed, run over, hit with a car. Ooh, ICE out protest in Memphis Sunday started peacefully. Hundreds gathered along Summer Avenue holding signs. Protesters then started marching in the street. Things changed when Tennessee Highway Patrol showed.
Brian
Up because they're on a highway.
Steven Crowder
Multiple witnesses claim a trooper drove into protesters. Multiple witnesses. Because those protesters, they're known for being reliable. So with this. With this information, the Tennessee State Senator, Justin Pearson, wrote this on Facebook. The ramming of a marshal at a peaceful protest in Memphis by the Tennessee Highway Patrol is disturbing, dangerous, and troubling, especially in these times. I've seen enough videos and heard from enough attendees. Attendees from the ICE out march to believe that there needs to be an investigation done by tbi. The Tennessee Highway Patrol officer's actions. Well, good news is there didn't need to be a lengthy investigation because the patrolman released dash cam footage.
Josh Firestein
Move.
Brian
Get out of my way.
Steven Crowder
Get out of my way. Move, move, move. What? Move, move, move. Get out. Come here. And I will tell you, that's so much worse than just an accident. That is. You know that kid who you hate, who you watch lie to parents.
Josh Firestein
Yeah.
Steven Crowder
Who's the actual bully. And you're like, oh, my God, I hate that kid. Because, people, that's. Almost all of these protesters. That is proactively dishonest. And the only reason he's doing it is because he knows he's gonna get a senator or a congressperson or a judge somewhere to say, we need an investigation. This is wrong. This is cruel. That's the only reason he's so. He's not even trying to hide it.
Brian
Not a single one of these people is scared. No, not a single one of these people is actually scared that something's gonna happen to them or that they're gonna. The isis, some kind of gestapo or not.
Steven Crowder
They're.
Brian
None of them are scared.
Steven Crowder
Right.
Josh Firestein
Is it wrong that I wanted the cop to hit the gas?
Steven Crowder
No, not at all.
Josh Firestein
I just instinctively, I was like, well, now's a good time.
Brian
Well, I don't see him anymore. I might as well step on the gas pedal.
Josh Firestein
His hands are here, but the rest of his body is.
Steven Crowder
Who knows? Yeah, I don't see him. I guess at this point, what's done is done.
Brian
They love this. And the media salivates, man. They were salivating over that. The guy. The guy shooting the gun in the air. Because they go, oh, man. Finally, we can get black people behind this.
Steven Crowder
Right.
Brian
If we tell them that ICE is killing black people, man. That's how we get the. The movement going.
Steven Crowder
Right. At best. And this is very rare. One of their descriptors may be true where it's like, they may have an American citizen but they were not being peaceful, which would explain the reason for being detained. Or they may find someone who is being peaceful but they are not an American citizen. Most of the time they are not an American citizen and they are not being peaceful. Or they are anti ICE agitators. I've never seen one where all of the descriptors used are actually accurate. Here's another one that I saw this and sometimes it's actually, it's actually a disadvantage to walk through something logically because your brain sort of. It short circuits. So I read this post on X and then I watched the video that was included in the post and I told myself it must have been one of those autoplay things where it played a different video. Yeah, yeah, like there's no way that's. And then I realized that this person at Jesus freaking freaking Congress was hoping that you read this lengthy description and not click the video or that the video is missing from your timeline. That's the only explanation I can come up with because of how not only inaccurate, it's the antithesis of an accurate description. So this is what is written and then I'll show you the video. This person wrote, no crime, no warrant, no probable cause. An agent falsely claims that's assault while they're actively assaulting a US citizen who is complying and not resisting. There's a portion here above this where the person says they write. The man calmly responds, I am not moving. The agent escalates again, snarling, you're an effing bitch and you're going to learn the hard way. Again, this victim says I am not moving. It describes the victim as being peaceful, as being compliant and a very profane ICE agent who is shaking down this American citizen for no reason. Read the entire post and now watch the entire video. And I'm very curious as to what transpired before this video. We don't have that yet. I'm willing to bet it was something like shooting guns in the air or blocking a car. You know, that kind of thing.
Brian
Get the fuck on the car.
Donald Trump (quoted)
Arrested.
Steven Crowder
I'm not on.
Brian
Get the on the car now.
Steven Crowder
That's assault talk. Don't move and you're going to get.
Brian
Tased cuz you want to be an idiot.
Donald Trump (quoted)
I'm not moving.
Steven Crowder
You want to be a.
Brian
You're.
Steven Crowder
You're a. And you're going to learn the hard way. I just asked you for an ID that was.
Brian
I don't give a what you asked me for.
Steven Crowder
Shut up. Shut up. Peacefully complying.
Donald Trump (quoted)
With you.
Steven Crowder
He has A gun on him.
Josh Firestein
Look at that.
Brian
A fully registered firearm. Because I'm a u. S. Citizen. What's wrong with y'? All Walking away, trying to get away while they're still searching him? Not harassing the person, filming, by the way. Fully allowed to film and observe. Y' all are some real scumbag, you know that?
Steven Crowder
I'm a scumbag.
Brian
You just acted like a scumbag. You're a US Citizen.
Steven Crowder
You shouldn't have done that.
Brian
What made you get into this profession? Why are you so mad at. Why are you so mad at immigrants? What did they do to you? Rape.
Steven Crowder
Yeah. So some context, obviously, that was missing from the description. The man yelling, swearing at the officers. The officer said that all he needed was the man's id. He said, I don't give a fuck what you asked me for, bitch. You know, peacefully complying, multiple guns confiscated, which was not mentioned in the post. And here's the thing. I get that you can lawfully carry in that state if you are actually being handcuffed or if you are being detained by officers. One of the first things they ask you is, hey, do you have any weapons on you? Anything that could stab me? He wouldn't have had time to do that because this man was swearing and yelling at them. Now, I said that he was reaching for something, and this man said, I didn't reach for anything. I reached for my whistle. Well, which is it?
Brian
Yeah.
Steven Crowder
And there's your probable cause. When? If the ICE officers were saying this man was acting aggressive, this man was reaching for something, we had reason to believe that it was a weapon. And I didn't do any of that, you bitch. I was reaching for my whistle. Well, you have guns on you, so can we agree that that would be probable cause?
Brian
He didn't call him a bitch. He called him a pussy. Which is really funny coming from guys saying, I was looking for my whistle, you pussy. Okay, tough guy.
Steven Crowder
Yeah. And by the way, when people say, oh. Report by ProPublicas, this is what people are circulating. 170 US citizens arrested by ICE. 72% of them were held for interfering with ICE. So in other words, those American citizens are the people you see blocking cars. The people you see either assaulting officers, screaming at officers, throwing branches. Throwing branches. The remaining 28% were questioned and released. If the example existed of, yes, officer. Okay, I'm sorry, you need identification at this point. Okay, yep, thank you. Sorry, I'll be on my merry way. And then just catches a haymaker. You'd see. Doesn't Exist.
Brian
I'd be curious to see what that rate. What the rate of successful arrests is.
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Brian
For ice, when we're talking about how many was it. How many people Was it that you.
Steven Crowder
Said that it was a.70. They said 170 U.S. citizens. 72% were held for interview.
Brian
I would like to see what the number is of that. What the 170 US citizens is wrongful arrest ratio compared to successful arrest ratio from Rice.
Steven Crowder
Yeah, well, it's a good point. It doesn't matter what you do because you're still used as a statistic by the left.
Brian
Well, they'll do that stuff. They'll go, well, it's only 1%, right. Only 1% of immigrants. Well, do the murders and the rapes, right? It's like, yeah, but that's.
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Brian
500,000 people.
Steven Crowder
So. So if an officer shoots, okay, well, then you're going to have a vigil and that's going to be a protest because you have Renee. Good. All right, but then if you detain someone for impeding. Remember when people said, hey, why didn't he just tell her to move her car? Well, he did.
Josh Firestein
Yeah.
Steven Crowder
Well, why didn't he just take her out and detain her? Well, he tried to. And then she rammed a cop. But even then you'd put her in a statistic of an American citizen who was arrested by ice. It doesn't matter what they do. The left doesn't want law and order enforced.
Brian
They also make detaining sound like some kind of, you know, prison sentence. Right, Detaining. I've been detained twice. I was just there. I was in downtown Seattle. These guys got into a fight. I was buying a hot dog at a hot dog cart. Typical Josh Firestein move. But I saw it all go down, down. And they bumped into the cart during the fight. And I got detained for about half an hour. I had to sit there, I had to wait. They took witness statements, they got mine, they thanked me, they sent me on my way. I drove home drunk. It was a great night.
Steven Crowder
You really do hate this sober culture.
Josh Firestein
Wow.
Brian
I'm kidding. I'm kidding, of course. But no, that's what, that's what detaining is. It's like, yeah, it's not this evil, like prison sentence. You're getting sent to the gulag.
Steven Crowder
Well, then the left will also tell you all of this should be allowed to transpire. Right. Otherwise it's a violation of basic Americans rights. And then they will also lament the fact that President Trump has said, okay, because of this. Now Funding to any sanctuary cities is.
Donald Trump (quoted)
Going to be cut off starting February 1st. We're not making any payments to sanctuary cities.
Josh Firestein
Yeah.
Donald Trump (quoted)
Or states having sanctuary cities because they do everything possible to protect criminals at the expense of American citizens. And it breeds fraud and crime and all of the other problems that come. So we're not making any payment to anybody that supports sanctuary cities.
Steven Crowder
Can anyone explain to me. Can anyone make the case. And this is an invitation to actual, you know, legitimate either professors, representatives who can make the case to me as to why a sanctuary city is anything other than by definition a violation of federal law. All sanctuary city means is we're actually not going to enforce federal. We're not going to allow federal law to be enforced. As a matter of fact, can anyone explain to me how that makes sense? And can anyone explain to me how people support that when they supported lockdowns of American citizens? They'll do so in the name of freedom, fascism, jackboot thugs. Well, you didn't want kids to go back to school for two and a half years or businesses to start up. I remember people eating outside when with masks on and they were limited as to how much time they could spend on a table. You didn't want people to be able to move in and out of states. We look at other countries where you actually had concentration camps, quarantine camps for people who had Covid. But now you're about freedom only when it involves not allowing federal law to be enforced. And by the way, one of the most basic fundamental laws that a nation has to have, that we know who's here. Can anyone make the case? Genuine invitation.
Josh Firestein
I doubt you'll get anybody to come in and do it and say anything other than, well, we don't like the law.
Steven Crowder
Yeah.
Josh Firestein
Or something.
Steven Crowder
That's it.
Brian
That's all you'll get. Well, the law is wrong. Well, that's not the answer to the question.
Josh Firestein
That's not how this works. Because I've tried that before with the cop and he was like, well, I get that you think the law is wrong.
Brian
Yeah.
Josh Firestein
But it's still the law.
Steven Crowder
I don't care.
Josh Firestein
Yeah, exactly.
Steven Crowder
I had that when I was pulled over with a broken taillight. It had been broken that day. And then I had about a three and a half hour drive to Macon, Michigan and I got pulled over twice. They hold the ticket up.
Josh Firestein
I've already got one.
Steven Crowder
I said like, look, I got this here. And then the guy was a Fox News fan and I had just been on Sean Hannity show the night before. So he Actually roadside discussed that for like 40 minutes. Like, yeah, you know, he just seems like a really fun guy. I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's kind of late. Can I get going here? So ticket or not? Yeah. He was like, ah, I get you already have a ticket, but, you know, you can't drive with a broken tailor. He's like, yep, I get it. I didn't know that it was broken. This brings us to the next piece of propaganda out there, and this is one where I thought there must be a basis for it. There absolutely must be something here. There's a kernel of truth somewhere. Otherwise we wouldn't find ourselves. Spoiler alert. I'll tell you the end that Mossad sent an agent to deliberately start the Patagonia wildfires in Argentina because Israel wants to set up a new Jewish state. That's what. Yeah, so you would think. Okay, so what's the jumping off point? How to. As of right now, it doesn't actually exist. So if you want to continue watching this and allow us to disabuse you of it, click that button. Join Mug Club. Rumble Premium is Mug Club. Mug Club is Rumble Premium. You now get everything ad free, 100% more. Show this 100% hand etched, hand painted mug or go $9 a month. But we're funded by viewers like you, so all this goes away if you don't. And if not, hey, continue watching Tim Pool, you'll go to him for free. You continue watching the lineup up until 7:00pm Eastern. So, Patagonia. This one really threw us for a loop. The wildfires are obviously horrible. Tragic. They've burned, I guess. Is it 12,000 hectares at this point? Yeah, they've been bad. They'll get to it being the Jews. Sam.
Episode: The ICE Propaganda Is Getting Out of Control! Don't Fall For It
Date: January 14, 2026
Host: Steven Crowder
Regulars/Guests: Brian, Josh Firestein, Gen Z Commentator (anonymous), Donald Trump (quoted clips)
Steven Crowder and his crew tackle the issue of media-driven and social media-driven propaganda, especially regarding recent stories about ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), Iran, and even dietary changes proposed by politicians. The show’s main purpose is to debunk recent viral videos, narratives, and talking points that Crowder claims are being used to stir outrage and promote misinformation—particularly on the political left—about ICE, police actions, health guidance, and world events. Throughout, they answer audience questions, riff on health/diet culture, critique how stories are framed, and invite debate on “sanctuary cities.”
Timestamp: 06:09 – 25:17
Timestamp: 16:35 – 25:58
Timestamp: 26:39 – 38:34
Timestamp: 41:28 – 43:46
Timestamp: 43:47 – 59:59
Frequent Claims Debunked:
Sanctuary Cities – Invitation to Debate:
The episode combines sarcastic humor, rhetorical questions, and direct challenges to “mainstream narratives,” typical of Crowder’s style. The tone is irreverent and combative, with significant time devoted to lampooning viral narratives and critiquing both left-wing activists and media malpractice. Crowder encourages skepticism, fact-checking, and better standards for public debate while inviting genuine counter-arguments on areas like sanctuary cities.