The Lies are Sick: Charlie Kirk's Legacy Separating Fact from Fiction

Summary

Louder with Crowder

Episode: The Lies are Sick: Charlie Kirk's Legacy Separating Fact from Fiction
Date: September 16, 2025
Host: Steven Crowder & Team

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Overview

In this episode, Steven Crowder and the Louder With Crowder team tackle the abundance of misinformation, "lies from the left," and public misrepresentations surrounding the legacy and recent death of conservative figure Charlie Kirk. Crowder dissects the top five most prominent false claims circulating about Kirk, explores the broader social and media environment he considers hostile to the right, and addresses related issues such as free speech, DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) policies, hate speech, Antifa, and political violence.

The tone vacillates between grave and comedic, employing characteristic biting satire and direct, sometimes provocative language. The show also features panel discussion, sketches, and pointed cultural commentary, particularly targeting progressive critics and media figures.

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Main Themes

• Defending Charlie Kirk’s Legacy: Crowder seeks to correct major falsehoods about Charlie Kirk, addressing each claim with quoted context and his own commentary.
• Media and Leftist Rhetoric: Heavy emphasis on how leftist or liberal rhetoric allegedly labels all conservative positions as "violence" and what Crowder sees as a concerted strategy to justify deplatforming or worse.
• Political Violence and Responsibility: Discussion around increasing threats or acts of political violence, blame, and accusations against both left and right.
• Freedom of Speech & Hate Speech: Debate over conservative vs progressive interpretations and applications with live examples.
• Satirical & Edgy Humor: Musical parody, extended roasts about culture figures, and inside joking serve as signature Crowder entertainment.

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Key Segments and Insights

1. Opening Rant – The Left Wants You Dead

[00:00–06:35]
Crowder launches the show by reiterating a claim that "the left wants you dead"—not all liberals, but a significant, active segment. He frames this as a longstanding strategy to equate conservative opinions with violence, thus justifying escalating pushback, censorship, deplatforming, and even violence.

“Every single position you hold, as a conservative, as a Republican, as a right winger, as maga, as libertarian, they've presented to the public as violence.” — Steven Crowder [01:32]

"Are you advocating violence? Yes, I am. Yes, I am. I’m advocating lawful violence in protection of yourself, of your family, of your community..." — Steven Crowder [05:23]

Crowder explains that lawful, defensive violence is both a right and obligation given this landscape, but insists he doesn’t want the left "to be afraid to speak," just afraid to cause mayhem at right-wing events.

2. Musical Satire and Banter

[06:35–09:56]
Transition into a parody song, poking fun at transgender issues, gender identity, and social confusion—done in the show's irreverent, purposely offensive style. This is intertwined with group banter.

3. Cornel West and Andrew Wilson on Piers Morgan

[11:54–16:48]
Crowder and the crew dissect a debated appearance featuring Andrew Wilson “triggering” Cornel West into quitting an interview on Piers Morgan’s show. This segment morphs into an extended roast of West’s appearance and career.

“That man Cornel West was once taken seriously. The man who looks like Lenny Kravitz’s pallbearer.” — Steven Crowder [15:15]

4. On Antifa as a Terrorist Organization & Pam Bondi

[18:38–25:03]
Crowder lauds Trump’s renewed consideration for designating Antifa a terrorist group.
He then sharply critiques Pam Bondi for conflating hate speech with actionable threats:

“She makes the case that hate speech is different from free speech and that we won’t allow hate speech. This is rudimentary, by the way. This is actually using a leftist talk.” — Steven Crowder [22:21]

Crowder insists violent threats and actions are already criminal, not “hate speech” issues. He decries any opening for progressive speech-policing and extols absolute practical protection for speech, even offensive speech.

5. Destiny & The Allegations of Fear and Political Violence

[31:10–41:46]
Segments from streamer ‘Destiny’ are examined, with Destiny asserting conservatives must be “afraid to die” at public events, allegedly to force them to pressure their leaders to "lower the temperature."

“You need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature.” — Destiny [31:29]

"No, no, no. You don't fear being killed because we don't do it. And you guys don't roll over. You commit acts of violence, not just the terrorist attack, murdering, assassination of Charlie Kirk, but burning down cities." — Steven Crowder [36:37]

Crowder starkly contrasts left and right experiences regarding personal and family security, event security, and public blaming after acts of violence.

6. Correcting The Lies – The Charlie Kirk Claims

[49:00–62:44]

Claim 1: "Charlies Kirk advocated stoning gays to death"

• False. Crowder plays in-context footage, showing Kirk referencing biblical passages to explain religious cherry-picking, not advocating violence.
  • “So, Ms. Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19, love your neighbor as yourself. The chapter before affirms God’s perfet law... It’s very simple. So how do you love somebody, you love them so much to correct their error?” — Charlie Kirk [51:30]

Claim 2: "Said Black people are too dumb to fly planes"

• False. Kirk critiqued DEI quotas and how they cast suspicion on merit-based minorities in high-stakes jobs, not asserting lack of intelligence.

  • “If I see somebody who is black, as I said on the show, I’m going to hope that person is qualified... because they're begging the question. We're not hiring based on merit anymore, we're hiring based on race. So when you see a black pilot, you wonder boy, is that person there because they earned it or because they were placed there? That's what DEI does." — Charlie Kirk [54:19]

Claim 3: "Black women don’t have brain processing power"

• Misrepresented. The full context is Kirk critiquing specific, self-identified Affirmative Action appointees, not making a blanket statement.

  • “If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks...they’re coming out and saying, ‘I’m only here because affirmative action.’ … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously...” — Charlie Kirk [55:52]

• The show highlights that recipients themselves have framed their own advancement through the lens of DEI/affirmative action.

Claim 4: "Charlie Kirk wanted genocide of trans people"

• Flatly Denied. Crowder asserts Kirk dealt compassionately with trans individuals, replaying an exchange where Kirk encourages cautious, non-medicalized approaches and personal compassion:
  • "First of all, thank you so much for that. So I’m gonna have an opinion that very few people will ever tell you, which is I want you to be very cautious putting drugs into your system in the pursuit of changing your body. I instead encourage you to work on what’s going on in your brain first." — Charlie Kirk [60:29]

Bonus Claims

• Destiny Blames Kirk’s Death on Voters:
  “If you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Donald Trump shouldn’t have been president for the second term... All of the recent political violence that’s happened in this country over the past 20 years, the majority of it, the overwhelming majority of it... has been conservative.” — Destiny [41:46]
• Shooter was Conservative:
  Crowder rebuts Destiny’s claim about the shooter’s identity and motives. He asserts the shooter was left-leaning, gay with a trans boyfriend, and inspired by far-left ideology, supporting this with references to anti-fascist markings on shell casings.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• [01:32] Crowder: “Every single position you hold ... has been presented to the public as violence.”
• [05:23] Crowder: “Yes, I am advocating lawful violence in protection of yourself...”
• [15:15] Crowder: “The man who looks like Lenny Kravitz’s pallbearer...”
• [22:21] Crowder: “She [Pam Bondi] makes the case that hate speech is different from free speech and that we won’t allow hate speech. This is rudimentary...”
• [31:29] Destiny: “You need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature.”
• [36:37] Crowder: “You don’t fear being killed because we don’t do it. And you guys don’t roll over. You commit acts of violence...”
• [51:30] Kirk: “So, Ms. Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19... So how do you love somebody, you love them so much to correct their error?”
• [54:19] Kirk: “When you see a black pilot, you wonder... That’s what DEI does. It makes you ask questions you otherwise would not ask.”
• [60:29] Kirk (on trans issues): “I actually want to see you be comfortable in how you were born... You don’t have to wage war on your body.”

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Important Timestamps

• [00:00 – 06:35]: Opening rant – “The left wants you dead.”
• [06:35 – 09:56]: Musical parody, gender identity satire.
• [11:54 – 16:48]: Cornel West roast, Piers Morgan debate.
• [18:38 – 25:03]: Trump and Antifa, Pam Bondi critical segment.
• [31:10 – 36:26]: Destiny’s comments on political violence.
• [41:46 – 45:23]: Destiny blaming Kirk’s death on right-wing voters and positing shooter’s (disputed) conservative ties.
• [49:00 – onward]: Breakdown and refutation of the top five Charlie Kirk lies.

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Closing Thoughts

Crowder wraps the episode by urging his audience to scrutinize information, verifying claims with direct source material—“We list all the references for every factual claim…call us on our crap.” He maintains a call for defensive vigilance against violence, absolute protection for free speech, and continued resistance to what he characterizes as coordinated left-wing smears and pressure campaigns.

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Note:
This summary omits promotional material, live-read ads, and non-content banter, focusing on the key discussions and controversies at the core of the episode. The tone and content reflect the sarcastic, confrontational, and occasionally inflammatory style characteristic of Louder with Crowder.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to the lineup live on rumble, 9am Eastern to 7pm Eastern. And actually, some people in the lineup, like Andrew Wilson, who's on later in the evening, is featured today making Cornel west rage quit on Piers Morgan and, well, what else are we going to be talking about? We're going to be talking about leftists wanting you to die. I'll get back to that. The biggest lies about Charlie Kirk, now that, look, this is one of those things. That's the unfortunate reality that people move on from news. And I want to make sure that this is not one that we just move on from and nothing changes. I don't think it will be. But he was, whether you agree with all of his positions or not, a symbol of you, of everyone who they took out. And unfortunately, with that comes a lot of lies from the left, misrepresentations of his views and those on the right, people who I've tried to be very straightforward. Charlie Kirk and I were not. We're not close friends by any means. We ran in the same circles. Only interactions through the channels that we had were pleasant. But I'm not going to come out and say, hey, we were best friends, therefore believe everything I say. And so we have the top five lies that have been spread out there about Charlie Kirk, and we want to definitively correct them. You know, things like he wanted a genocide trans, or the things he said about black people. These are completely untrue. But before we get to that, I wanted to discuss something with you and I wrote these down as notes. Let me put a finer point on it, really. Clearly, the left wants you dead. And Sam Hyde had a great monologue about this yesterday. But the left wants you dead. Silenced is most important, dead, just as good. And I think that we've seen that on full display. Not all liberals, not all people who vote Democrat, but too much of the left, they're okay with it. And here's why. I went through all the positions and I went back through sort of my Rolodex, changed my minds debates I've had in every single position that you hold, as a conservative, as a Republican, as a right winger, as maga, as libertarian, even, yes, libertarians, they're coming for you, too. Every single position you hold has been presented to the public as violence. If you don't think that children should transition or if you don't think that biological men should compete in women's sports, the left says that's violence. You're encouraging violence against trans people. You're committing a genocide by erasing Them and not recognizing their identity. If you're against DEI or affirmative action, well, that's violence. Because you're polling the institutions of systemic racism that lead to the deaths of black people and murder at the hands of white police officers. Your pro life, well, that's violence against women. That one's really clear, not the actual violence. Your pro second Amendment. That's an obvious one. That's violence. They've been using that one against Charlie Kirk, trying to tarnish his legacy. Your pro second Amendment. Your you're pro violence. Why don't you care about the lives lost? You're pro first Amendment. That's violence. You're inciting hatred. You're inciting a riot. You're inciting violence with your speech. The opinions with which I disagree, even all the way down to, for crying out loud, not wanting Juneteenth to be a national holiday. Why do you want to erase black people? Why do you want to encourage violence against black people? And if you don't hold these views, you're also violent because silence is violence. Every single position that you and I and Charlie and anyone on the right, from the moderate right to the far right, they label it all far right. Every single position you hold dear has been presented to the public as violence. Well, what do you do with violence? What do you do? What would you do if you believed that there was someone out there espousing violence against their fellow civilians, their fellow Americans, at every single turn? You could justify violence against them because you could rationalize that it's defensive. This is not an accident. This is not something that got away from the left where cooler heads can prevail. This has always been the plan. This is by design. I've lived it here publicly since 2008. They have never changed their approach. They will always paint you as violent. They will always paint every single one of your values as violence. And the end game is to deal with you accordingly. We are dealing with the results. And that's why I am telling you, I have said this and if anyone wants to host me and browbeat me. Are you advocating violence? Yes, I am. Yes, I am. I'm advocating lawful violence in protection of yourself, of your family, of your community, where grace has been afforded before and it never should have. I am advocating a hair trigger defensive approach. Let me distill it this way. And I think that most of you agree with this. You can comment below if you think this rhetoric is extreme. I genuinely don't want anyone on the left, from professors to Maya Angelou to Brian Stelter I genuinely don't want them to fear getting up in public and espousing their opinions. That's not the America I want to live in. I don't want them to be afraid to do that. To be clear, I want them to be terrified to show up to our events when we speak and disrupt it or riot or incite violence. Does that make it clear? Advocating violence? You bet your ass. On with the show.

[B]

Then she rose and stood to breathe While causing such commotion creating such disharmony but she blinded me with science.

[A]

She blinded me with.

[B]

Science and failed Gynecology. Yeah, it is.

[C]

Man.

[B]

When I'm standing next to zur Blinding.

[A]

Me with science, science.

[D]

Science we all.

[E]

Know that I'm a tranny freak so that doesn't count.

[B]

I can see the testicles.

[A]

Can you provide a definition for the word woman? I can't now.

[B]

It's putting on the lotion. She's looking like a guy to me. It's me. Pursuing me with holotry. She blinded me with science she blinded me with science and failed gynecology Whimsies dancing next to me Blinding me with science, science.

[A]

Science.

[B]

You, you, you, you.

[A]

Hey.

[B]

Moving out. So clearly.

[A]

We'Re here.

[C]

We're.

[A]

We're not going. We're here. We're here. Come here.

[B]

Androgyny emotion. Cause he's got all the parts. You see her transition lacks devotion. Totally disharmony. She blinded me with science she blinded me with science Conflating our biology.

[A]

Yeah, I know someone who says gender is more like constellations than a spectrum, which I really like.

[B]

I don't believe it. There's he goes again. Z. He's tucked it up and I can't find anything. All the ticks and bits and unsewn oats. My antiquated notions. It's putting on the lotion. Then Z rose and stood to free While causing such commotion creating such disharmony but the sea blinded me with science she blinded me with science she blinded me with.

[A]

Nothing like a good misgendering. It is a knife in the gut when I get called sir. Click Rumble Premium and join now for 99 annually or $9.99 a month to get the entirely ad free experience and an ever expanding roster of content creators and free speech.

[B]

Sam.

[A]

There you go. You can comment below because I think it's an important conversation to have. And this is a live show, weekdays, 11am Eastern. We are here every weekday, especially if you're a Rumble Premium member, because the Friday show is a love letter to mug club. Rumble Premium Captain Morgan, CEO. How are you? Good. How are you? I'm doing all right. I hurt my back, but it's my own fault. Oh, no. And you can go see him. Yoga? No, not the yoga.

[E]

No yoga.

[A]

I don't have your date in here.

[E]

Oh, well, it's, you know, Friday, Saturday, September 26th and 27th, at Cap City Comedy Club in Austin, Texas. He is a super funny guy, and he's happy to be here. Josh Firestone.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Well, I could have done that part. I just don't remember all your dates.

[E]

I just thought I'd step in, show you my abilities.

[A]

I appreciate it. Hey, I think that that's that fill in hose sign. There's going to be a construction paper. Louder. With Firestein.

[E]

Hey, look at that. We actually came up with a different. A different name.

[A]

What is it?

[E]

It was Quiet Time with Firestein.

[A]

Oh, okay. Yeah, I get it. It's kind of an antonym.

[E]

Yeah, it's like Drag Queen Story Hour, except for I'm not gonna be thinking about your children.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good. That's a good point. It's a. I hope. Well, we'll see. It's a knife to the gut when that last man gets called sir. Oh, well, he prefers freak. Freak.

[F]

We can accomplish that.

[A]

I mean, you know, the 80s, early 90s, swirlies weren't all wrong. Okay, speaking of swirlies, this will make sense. Our friend Andrew Wilson, who, of course, is here on the lineup evenings at 5. He was on Piers Morgan yesterday. And he got once respected, revered, sort of, I guess, was taken seriously. Man named Cornel West. Cornel west tried to do the kind of both sides cooling temperatures, but was called on it. Andrew Wilson, yet again. I mean, he's been racking them up. He got this man to rage, quit.

[C]

And I mean, the American empire at this moment is one in which the lethal combination of the hatred and the greed and the indifference generates very much the exchange that we just saw. You see, this brother right here says, well, all leftists want to see me dead. Well, I'm a leftist. I don't want to see you dead. I'm a Christian.

[A]

They called Trump's administration a neo fascist movement, you lunatic.

[C]

Absolutely right.

[A]

You have gone out.

[C]

No, no, let me make the case.

[A]

Everything.

[C]

Let me make the case. Let me make the case. Will you allow me, brother? Come on, man. Come on. No, no, no, you haven't. I haven't made the case. If you think I've made the case, then you're not in the dialogue.

[A]

You just said this.

[C]

You're very, very different brother Charlie. You're very different than Charlie though, man.

[A]

He.

[C]

Yes, yes, absolutely.

[A]

People like you that got that man killed, sir.

[C]

No, no, no, no there fascist. This brother's going to say, oh, this Kumbaya and so forth. No, Charlie was made in the image of a loving and mighty God. I believe that. I say my prayers for sister Erica and the kids because this brother wants to trash my Christian sensibility. And look at him laughing now. It's a joke, man. Pierce, it's not working.

[A]

Come on, man. Here it goes. Is he part of your neo fascist?

[C]

Not with this brother.

[A]

Watch. He walks right into it.

[C]

Run away says that he is against civil rights act. Does that make him a proponent of Jim Crow? When he calls Martin Luther King Jr. An awful human rights.

[A]

There it is.

[C]

And the scholarship. I'm critical of that. I am critical of that. You're absolutely right, brother Wilson. You're absolutely right. But if all you're going to do is be arrogant, you're arrogant.

[A]

Critical of views he didn't espouse.

[C]

That's what you're talking about. But Pierce, you making your money, brother. Go on and make your money, man.

[A]

It's all about making. Come on, man. It's all about making money.

[C]

Part of the problem now that's speaking.

[E]

With your chest right there, brother.

[C]

Who connection to Charlie. He's willing to at least listen.

[A]

But does he not know where the camera is? Can you sit down?

[E]

He's yelling at the part of the debate.

[C]

This is ridiculous. This is ridiculous. He's smoking his cigarettes with his.

[A]

Dialogue. Surely you're not going to walk out in a debate about dial. I love how he gets mad about everything. He's smoking his cigarettes like a James Dean. Look at him laughing like I'm a comedian. Mr. Tony Curtis. Jack Lemon. Look a. Now think about this for a second. There's real value in this being exposed. That man Cornel west was once taken seriously. The man who looks like Lenny Kravitz's pallbearer.

[E]

He looks like. He looks like what black people think they look like in the 1850s.

[A]

He looks. Andrew said this. He looks like Sam Hyde playing Frederick Douglass. You know what he looks like?

[E]

He looks like 12 years of Don King.

[A]

He looks like he drinks sherry and brothels. Not a bad idea.

[E]

He looks scary. He looks like a ghost who just saw a ghost.

[A]

Oh, damn. He looks like he just discovered electricity and immediately forgot how.

[E]

You know, he reminds me of somebody who looks like Afroman's father.

[A]

Yes. Disappointed. It's like he has the old Civil war. It's like Custer's last electroshock. He looks like he said no to crack, but it caught him anyway.

[E]

You know, Cornel west has gone so far to the left. He's gone so far to leftovers career. He used to be Cornell East.

[A]

Oh my God. He looks like Art garfunkel took a 30 year nap.

[E]

Well, at least we now, now we know what the burning bush looks like.

[A]

That's the condition. He looks like he thinks he likes white women, but he's not sure about it.

[E]

Yeah, but he definitely likes them to call him boy.

[A]

Yeah, but he also, to be fair, he looks like he. He looks like he gives good hugs.

[F]

Before he rapes you.

[C]

Whoa, whoa, Gerald, for crying out loud.

[A]

That was uncalled for. Brother Morgan. Come on, Brother Morgan. Come on now. Brother Gerald. Cigarette. Like you. Like you Marlon Brando. Come on, Brother J. Talking all that stuff over there.

[E]

He's so arrogant, smoking all your cigarettes.

[A]

I can't believe that. Now he's stand. Look at him. Do you know why he's mad about Charlie Kirk? Referring to M.L. king Jr. And I don't think that he said he was a monster. He Talked about how MLK Jr was a flawed man. Right. And we all know that. I mean, come on, he was. You have one or two crack fueled orgies, like shame on me. But like this guy, come on. When we talk about black examples who are actually revered by the black community. This is a guy who couldn't get tenured at Harvard. There was a theological institute. He also Princeton. He wasn't showing up to class. According to Harvard. This is all alleged. He was allegedly mishandling some funds. He owed the IRS 400 something thousand dollars. He had many mistresses and was paying them. Like I don't know if he was using the money to pay them and not pay his taxes, but we know that he had allegedly mistresses like this. Can you give us one? Hey guys, can you give us one example? Not an example that you see in the conservative community who's referred to as an Uncle Tom, but someone who is revered, who's venerated by the black community, who isn't a walking example of what not to do.

[E]

You know, it's bad when you're the second. You're the second best role model named West.

[A]

Yes, yes. Wait, who's the first one? Oh, I was thinking, I was thinking. What was his name? The conservative guy? West. Colonel West. Adam West.

[E]

That's like.

[A]

No, Adam west is Batman. Yeah. What's the name of the black guy with the flat top.

[F]

It's. I think he's Colonel.

[A]

I think it was Colonel. I remember his name anyway.

[E]

Yeah, you're thinking of Jim West. Oh, Will Smith's character from Wild Wild West.

[A]

That's what I'm thinking of.

[E]

That's all grown up. That's Cornell West.

[A]

That guy knew how to use his single action against robot spiders.

[E]

Yeah, he definitely did.

[A]

By the way, made for you. You can watch the Crucible. Andrew Wilson on Rumble. The lineup. It's free today at 5pm Eastern. I'm sure he'll have a lot to say about it. Look, I like seeing these people out there who are taking no prisoners. That's where we need to be right now. And that brings us to President Trump.

[F]

Allen West.

[A]

Allen West. Allen West. I was close. You were close. You were close with Adam, but you're still wrong. It's way off. Just because it sounds like a white.

[F]

Boy name and he got it right.

[A]

Whoa, whoa, brother Gerald, Why whoa? You gotta bring that hate speech up in here. Yeah, yeah, Mr. Marlboro. Mr. Marlboro.

[E]

Man, I'm gonna pray for you and your family.

[A]

Yeah, right after you call me neo fascist. Tall smokestack. So it's so funny. Like, his thing was, like, the thing he picked out was cigarettes. Like, nah, nah, he's smoking damn cigarettes.

[E]

But he was like, it was just like stream of conscious because he hadn't smoked a cigarette in that clip until he said it. He was like, look at you. Hey, you're smoking a cigarette.

[A]

Yeah. And you're wearing a stupid scarf. What is that?

[E]

Does he have like, the cigarettes?

[A]

Because he has a speaking engagement. He's like, to protect my speaking voice. Well, unsuccessful. Also, like, there are plenty of performers who don't walk around with a Hugh Hefner ascot to protect their silly voice.

[E]

All right, nice ask, Scott. Good luck with your mystery.

[A]

Yes, it was the candelabra. There's a cigarette in there. Damn. Now, I was bringing a dog with us. Speaking of people taking no prisoners, yesterday President Trump and his administration made some pretty, pretty big declarations. Some of them are great. Some of them are ones that I obviously am supportive of being made because I've been making these for close to a decade. Some of them not so good. Pam Bondi. But here's the good is. Oh, nice. Antifa should be designated or at least close to. Seems like he's inching toward it. He needs to see enough support. Make him know that you support this Antifa, a terrorist organization.

[G]

Do you plan on Designating Antifa, finally a domestic terror organization.

[A]

Well, it's something I would do. Yeah. If I have support from the people back here. I think would start with Pam, I think. But I would. If you. I would do that 100%. And others also, by the way. But Antifa is terrible careful because Pam Bondi is about to screw it up and I don't want to see infighting right now. She is not one of us. No, I'll make it very, very clear. Pam Bondi is not one of us. She does. She does not share your values in common. Wait 30 seconds. But designating Antifa a terrorist organization. Absolutely. Having been the target of their violence for years, this is something that I have been pushing for going on years. Does Antifa fit this definition? Absolutely. Not only do they fit the definition, keep in mind, terrorism, you don't necessarily have to commit violence, you have to instill terror. Antifa obviously does that. And then they go one step further, one step further and actually commit acts of violence. So they're. They're a terrorist organization. Plus, plus we're wrapped for right now. It's going to get too dangerous. Antifa and Black Lives Matter are domestic terrorist organizations. In order to get in with the antifa crowd, we had to infiltrate their private groups. After news broke that they were officially classified as a domestic terrorist organization, they pulled everything in much closer to the chest. Antifa's not an idea. It's a group of people who commit acts of violence. Terrorist organization. That one's pretty cut and dry. Please do it. I don't care what Ray said. It's an idea of people. No, Shut up, Wiener. All right, this brings us to the Bad Bondi.

[F]

Bad Bondi.

[A]

Yes. So I want to be clear here.

[E]

Sounds like a rapper.

[A]

Yeah. Lil Bad Bondi. As opposed to the senior. It's Lil Bad Gold Bondi.

[E]

Oh, yeah, because of your affection.

[A]

Yeah, Bondi here. And you know, when they were doing the confirmation at that point, I was hoping for the best. Holding my nose. Know enough about her background. She does not share your values. She is not a conservative and I can prove it. She. She makes the case that hate speech is different from free speech and that we won't allow hate speech. This is rudimentary, by the way. This is actually using a leftist talk. Here's the thing. We don't need to change our values right now. We need to change our approach. We need to change the ratio of mercy versus defense. But we don't need. Our values are very consistent as conservatives. You have the right to Say whatever you want as long as it's within the bounds of the law. If you threaten to kill somebody, that's not speech. If you offer to pay someone or you offer to help someone kill somebody else, that's not free speech. It's the action we need to deal with. The violent actions and the speech therein that are calls to violent actions. We do not need to go down a slippery slope of saying, yeah, yeah, and some speech may be hateful. Pam Bonney doesn't know that because Pam Bonney has never had a conversation with a genuine conservative in her life. She was groomed. She's a politician. She's disingenuous. And what she says here sounds exactly like a leftist go.

[G]

There's free speech and then there's hate speech.

[A]

Nope.

[G]

And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie. In our society, we will absolutely target you, go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate speech.

[A]

Look, sorry. I have no problem with anyone hating me. And I know for a fact that Charlie Kirk had no problem with anyone hating him. This would be sullying his legacy. And our problem is not with the speech aimed at Charlie Kirk. Our problem is with the bullets. And our problem is with the speech therein. The messages. Planning to fire bullets. Someone can say, I hate Charlie Kirk. Someone can say, I hate Gerald Morgan. I hate whoever. No problem with that. Someone can say, this person is awful. They're an idiot. Of course, you cannot say, hey, I'm going to kill Charlie Kirk, or I hope that someone kills. I would like to see. I would like to help you kill Kirk. Crowder Shapiro. Insert whoever here. Jordan Peterson. She doesn't. And she tried to explain it and clarify it. And this is the problem. When you have tragedies like this and people are going after headlines.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

And there's no basis in any fundamental values. She attempted to clarify her position and just made it worse because she has no values. On X this morning, Hate speech that crosses the line into threats of violence is not protected by the first Amendment. Do that without saying hate speech. Yep.

[F]

Get rid of the first seven words.

[A]

Just starts the violence of violence. It's a crime. Threats of violence, not hate speech. You're giving the left validity. For far too long, we've watched the radical left normalize threats. Nope. Calls for assassinations. Nope. And sheer on political violence. That era is over. Those are all crimes. Those crimes were not appropriately prosecuted. To be clear, you cannot call for someone's murder. I agree. That's not hate speech. That's a Crime. You cannot swat a member of Congress. I agree. That is not hate speech. That is a crime. You cannot dox a conservative family and think it will be brushed off as free speech. I agree. That is not hate speech. That is a crime. These acts are punishable crimes. So do your job and every single threat will be met with the full force of the law. Free speech protects ideas, debate, even dissent, but it does not and will never protect violence. Of course, violence is an action, and I would say not only dissent, but insults, verbal denigration, all of those things are protected under the First Amendment. I have been here since 2008 saying we have to protect free speech at all costs. And people will say, look, I'm not a libertarian. I'm not a free speech absolutist in the sense that, sure, you could call for violence, but that has nothing to do with speech. It's violence. The fact that Pam Bondi cannot discern the difference tells you that she should be in no position whatsoever to even think about policing speech. And I have made myself clear on this, as did Charlie Kirk. The issue of hate speech in this case here, going back to 2009 and going back to change my mind, one of the very first, in early 2017 and many times thereafter. Hi. Are you having your mind changed? Sure, yeah. Do you disagree with me? So I'd like to keep the conversation to speech, because that's what we're talking about. Speech.

[G]

The things that people like, utter things that people say, perhaps, like on the Internet. I don't know if you think people are exercising their freedom of speech on, like, Twitter.

[A]

If we're talking about the written word. Yeah.

[G]

Utterances.

[A]

I would also strongly support, you know, others right to vehemently oppose what you're doing, you know, by almost any means necessary, maybe with force. You know, I'm not adversarial advocating violence. You're not. But you said by almost any means necessary. By almost any means. Yeah, things like that. I fully support combating by any means necessary. But someone who's a racist saying, I don't like Felicia because she's black. I think that's horrible. I disagree with him, but he does have the right to say it. I agree with that. I don't think that should be illegal at all. That's all. You know, even if we disagree on, let's say everything, I think it's important to listen to what an opposing point of view has to say.

[G]

In other words, we can just. You're trying to define hate speech as just in the same category. As all speech. First Amendment. And it's your right. It doesn't make it ethical. Of course it doesn't make.

[A]

Of course you could say something very offensive, for example, very racist, that I would disagree with horribly. But it's speech. You have the right to say it. And I have the right to be offended if I want. I have the right to disagree with it. I have the right to argue why you're wrong, but I don't believe it. We have the right to shut down anyone's speech based on a term like hate. But I'm open to hearing convincing arguments on hate speech. And for those of you wondering, that's before change of minds could get permits. It wasn't really a thing. So a sandwich board and a body suit. Yes.

[E]

You deserve to go to jail for wearing those shoes with that outfit.

[A]

They were the only shoes that one piece. I know. They were the only shoes I had in Burlington, Vermont, looking like an Oreo cream. The early days. So. Well, this is the thing. And you can take, obviously, what I've done, and you can take a lot of Charlie Kirk's conversations. You can take the conversations from anyone. Take Jordan Peterson. Take Ben Shapiro. Take Sargon of a cat. Take Michael Knowles, take. It's been remarkably consistent. Why does Pam Bondi not get any of it? Yeah. None of it. This is the guy who's advocated defensive lawful violence. So I won't be told that I'm a pushover libertarian in defending speech. She is talking about policing speech. She doesn't understand that we already have laws in place to deal with actions and actionable speech. Calls to violence.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Offering to help plan violence. That's not a speech issue. It's as simple as this. The left would. This was a prepared argument in 2016. The left would always say, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater. Actually, you can. You can. If you believe there's a fire in a crowded theater. You can't do it knowingly lying in order to cause a stampede with the forethought, with the knowledge beforehand that it could harm somebody. It's the action. This is very rudimentary. Pam Bondi understands none of it. Yeah. She's not amongst you.

[F]

No. Somebody close to her needs to get her to come out and say, hey, look, I was wrong.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

I should not have said anything about hate speech because we've been fighting this fight for far too long. And I thought this issue was kind of done. I thought the hate speech issue was kind of settled for most people. Like, okay, that makes sense.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Now she's just bringing it right back up. And people like Mehdi Hassan and Everybody else, probably Destiny 2 is out there saying, oh, now the right's worried about hate speech.

[A]

Well, hey, do you know why Charlie Kirk was killed? Do you know how the left justified it? They said hate speech. Okay, your move, Pam Bondi. You want to go down that road? Yeah. Speaking of which, let's go to. And I've. I don't know that we've ever run a clip of him. I know that. I know he's been around and I know that Andrew has had some debates with him. I guess he's a pretty prominent leftist YouTuber. Destiny. And this is making the rounds. That's his name. That's his screen name. Destiny.

[E]

That's his God given name.

[A]

He crystallizes. Yeah, yeah, he crystallizes. He embodies in this clip what we all know to be true about the left. And he's very clear. Conservatives need to be afraid to die because that's good for the country. Something here.

[D]

You need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature. The issue is right now. They don't feel like there's any fear. Like, I don't know, it's like memes. It's just.

[A]

That is completely untrue. Verifiably. I'll prove it in the second play.

[D]

Memes to everybody, I guess. I don't know, bro. I don't know.

[A]

I don't care.

[D]

I'm playing video games, okay? I'm done today. I don't give a. God, I'm good. It's gonna be so fucking gay if I get killed in the next two months of shit. I'm doing all the cuck out here. Please don't anybody make any actual. The most cucked, weak bull speeches on my side. God, if it happens.

[A]

Holy.

[D]

I'm gonna make a death note before I go out to go live and not. God, it's so cucked. It's so optics cucked.

[E]

This guy's literally a cuck.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

I don't understand what is. Yeah, I don't. I don't know a lot about him, but I know a couple things. I know he's a streamer. I know he's a cuckoo.

[A]

Yeah, well, only cucks can use the cuck word. That's right.

[F]

He's speaking from experience. Yeah. So therefore we should take it. So he really knows.

[D]

Yes, it's their word.

[A]

So I'll prove to you that this is thanks for educating me. And I get some people will say anecdotally, but we've already gone through and you can check the previous shows as far as the statistics, as far as the totality, the overwhelming evidence that the left is largely responsible for violence. I mean if only for the George Floyd riots, right? Billions of dollars in damages and thousands of casualties. But Pop Skryder made this point last week. Hey, I want you to compare something. Here are liberals leftists with their children out in public. See that front facing right. Hey, look on display.

[E]

They look safe, secure.

[A]

Here's how Charlie, if his children were ever included, would make sure that pictures were taken with his children. Yeah, always back turned. You will never see a picture of my children on social. And then of course the left will use it to try and say that you're a horrible father. Well, where are your kids? Well, because you won't see them. Charlie was very careful about it. The left is unafraid. The left parades their family often as an accessory. Right, look, test tube babies. That in and of itself you can see that, you can notice the pattern. And I would recommend that you go and look up any famous individual. You have some exceptions. And I also have a pretty clear comparison because I believe Destiny, someone brought to my attention had copied the change. Did a change my mind. Oh really? Himself. Compare. Yeah, there he is. No security to be seen, right. If he's on campus. Compare that to the over the course of this company, millions upon millions of dollars and tens of thousands of dollars that we've had to spend just on security for those individual. Change my minds alone. If your definition is a woman feels less comfortable alone at night because she's weaker than a man, then I would agree with you. But that's not an example of rape culture. I'm not here to talk to you stuff. No, no one radical trans liberation. Now let me ask you this because there are people, for example those we had four. So we kind of have to jerry rig it. We'll have one person sit here and then we'll have one person behind the rope. And for the sake of, you know, surprise, we'll never show you how many are around. Those are just the ones that you guys have seen because they've had to take out the trash a few times now in Destiny's defense, apparently he has made the argument. And the left will do this, right? They'll gaslight you and say I was taken out of context. And I've always said, hey, anything that we say here that's taken out of context. We have a rule. Make sure that within 30 seconds, either before or after, extend that clip. The context is very, very clear so that the left can't pull the tricks that we know they will. I want to be fair here is destiny in full context. You tell me if it changes a damn thing.

[D]

The issue is right now, they don't feel like there's any fear. Like, I don't know.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

It's like memes. It's just memes to everybody, I guess. I don't know, bro. I don't know.

[A]

I don't care.

[D]

I'm playing video games, okay? I'm done today. I don't give a fuck. God, he's, in fact, not done. Gay. If I get killed in the next two months of SH. T, I'm doing all the cuck out here. Please don't anybody make any actual. The most cucked, weak bull speeches on my side. God, if it happens.

[A]

Holy.

[D]

I'm gonna make a death note before I go out to go live and not. God, it's so cucked. It's so optics cucked. The question you should ask is, why is nobody on the right afraid enough to say, hey, Trump, can you, like, tone it down a little bit, bro? We're getting killed out here. Like, literally. Can we, like, chill? It's unacceptable that. That feeling doesn't exist over there.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

And the reason why it doesn't is.

[A]

Because it gets worse.

[D]

They're just, like, infinitely hyped up on their Civil War machine, and then everybody on the left, it just rolls over on it. It's so crazy to me.

[A]

No, no, no, no. You don't fear being killed because we don't do it. And you guys don't roll over. You commit acts of violence, not just the terrorist attack, murdering, assassination of Charlie Kirk, but burning down cities. Right. The closest thing that you guys can use as a comparison is January 6, where the only person who was shot was a protester themselves. It's not even close. It's never even been close. And in context, it gets worse. That's the point. It only gets worse. This man cannot say, taken out of context. Let me provide some more context. I want to read you the definition of terrorism from the United nations as a minimum. Terrorism involves the intimidation or coercion of populations or governments through the threat or perpetration of violence, causing death, serious injury, or the taking of hostages. So him saying, hey, why people on the right need to be afraid? We need them to be afraid. Does. Does that meet the definition According to you, and let me be really clear here, Destiny has seemingly not needed any security sometimes, but certainly not to the level that we do, certainly not the level that Charlie did, certainly not the level that Ben Shapiro does, certainly not the level that Jordan Peterson does. And I'm not talking about elected officials. I'm just talking about people with opinions. He's not needed that level of security, and I hope he never does. I hope that if Destiny wants to be unoriginal and go out and do change my minds and copy it, I hope that he does it, and I hope that everyone can hear him speak and hear his point of view. And I hope that no one ever commits an act. Please, I mean this. Don't be violent. If you're going to protest, protest respectfully and silently. Just as surely. I hope that any minions who come over from that kind of program to disrupt or commit acts of violence and at my events or any conservatives event is terrified because they might meet a bullet and at the very least a tase and tackle. Does that make it clear? I don't want anyone to go to his events and be violent. I want anyone who even thinks of that when coming to ours to be petrified, to have, to be willing to risk life and limb, just as we have for speaking. So is it terrorism? Well, I don't know. Here's Osama bin Laden addressing the American people. What do you notice? And for the United States. I want to tell the United States and its people, I swear by, by God, by Allah, he who has praised the sky, that the United States will not have peace. Hmm.

[F]

Not just be afraid to speak, be afraid of death.

[A]

Right.

[F]

They should be afraid to die when they go to these rallies. That's what he's saying. And by rallies, we mean conversations.

[A]

Yeah, there is.

[F]

We were talking about this yesterday. There is no tamer way of doing it than having a conversation with somebody. There are different ways to set it up and do that, but just overall, it's not going out there and just rah, rahing a crowd, necessarily having a conversation with somebody, debating ideas, going back and forth on why you believe what you believe. That's the bedrock of this society. You can't do that.

[A]

No.

[F]

That's too much.

[E]

Well, I think his premise is flawed. He said that the people on the right aren't afraid. They don't fear. They do fear.

[F]

He has no idea.

[A]

They do fear.

[E]

You have all the security you fear. The difference is, and what he's angry about is that the right has courage.

[A]

Right. That's what he doesn't have and he's angry.

[E]

He doesn't have to have the courage because he is not afraid to go out in public and do his copycat change my mind.

[A]

Right. And also what does that tell you? That tells you that people like Destiny have conceded the war of ideas. They have lost. If your last resort is to intimidate the opposing side into silence, it means you've lost. And we genuinely have never called for leftists, for liberals. We're having conversations to be banned. We want as many people to hear them as possible because the more they speak, the more we win. I want people to be able to look at a side by side, the original, the copy, and see who's better and see who has the better ideas. That's why I say I don't. Please do not even disrupt the left's events if they're having conversations or lectures. Do not. Just as surely I want you to fear for your life and you should if you come to ours. That's the violence I am advocating for. It is lawful and the left has been afforded grace. People like Destiny and the people who follow him, who show up at the events have been afforded grace that they would never have been, they would never ever have been afforded if it was just taking place at a crosswalk or in a restaurant. That era is over. And you can comment below if you think that's too extreme. No one would blame you for defending your yourself. It's your moral obligation to do so. But Destiny just can't help himself because he also on Piers Morgan, blamed Charlie Kirk's death on what? You and me, voters, just like Charlie.

[D]

There is not a single mainstream conservative that will call for a lowering of the temperature on their side. I think that liberals need to wake up and finally realize that if they're not willing to do it, it will never come down. If you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Donald Trump shouldn't have been president for the second term. Every time he's in office, this happens. People joked about when Biden came in, it was so boring, nothing was going on. 7 out of 10 of the largest protests in American history have happened under Donald Trump. All of the recent political violence that's happened in this country over the past 20 years, the majority of it, the overwhelming majority of it, everybody gets mad because they keep asking grok about it has been conservative.

[A]

Really? Well, you just talked about the biggest protests. What were they? What were they? Were they Black Lives Matter? Were they Summer of Love? Were they Pussy Hat March compared to the Tea Party under Barack Obama, where they left the places, often public places cleaner than they found it. And I have a bonus one for you just to show you how idiotic and evil the left is. But please, this is why we're also not on YouTube. It's just a cesspool and you're not allowed to speak the truth there. You have to compromise too much. So download the Rumble app. Follow me there. The Rumble app is actually more downloaded for the first time now in the app store than YouTube. That's a big deal, guys. You are making some serious headway. Follow me there. You'll never, you'll never lose touch.

[E]

That's not the slam he thinks it is too, by the way. I know that's not the slam he thinks it is. He said, well, under the Trump administration, that's when the biggest protest would happen. So you're saying that when the left doesn't get their way right, they burn down cities and act like children who will kill 30 people die. Yeah, the Summer of Love.

[A]

Yep.

[E]

That's on Trump. Or the people who are throwing a temper tantrum.

[A]

Right, exactly right. Yeah. 30 plus people died and thousands of casualties, including serious injuries. But hey, you know what Donald Trump said, Make your voices heard peacefully and patriotically. Here's another claim. And again, just because I was sort of made aware of Destiny Moore today, you'll hear this from the left. So it's not that Destiny is this guy is saying this, it's that this is something we gave you the polls yesterday. More people believe the shooter was a Republican, a conservative, than understand this person was a radical leftist. More people believe the lie than the truth. The reason people believe the lie over the truth is because of liars like Destiny. Here's his claim that the guy was a conservative actually who shot Charlie Kirk.

[D]

A guy from Utah who was raised in a Christian family, who was a 22 year old guy, described he wasn't Destiny, he had a trans girlfriend. He didn't have any trans influences. He didn't have any trans bullets. Yeah, I'm sorry. You guys were wrong on all of that.

[A]

So raised by conservative parents just like you, Destiny, here's the truth. Every single thing he just said is factually incorrect. That's the truth. He is a leftist. The shooter is gay with a trans boyfriend. And by that I mean a boyfriend who says he's going to be a woman. That means the shooter is gay. He did, he did carve or etch anti fascist sayings. Trans, furry, weird fetish culture, shit on the casings. It's all verifiable. Everything that Destiny just said is dishonest. And here's the thing. It's same old, same old. You heard the same thing on cnn, abc, NBC, cbs, msnbc, cnbc. You heard it everywhere. He's a retread. For those who don't know, he's one of those online video game streamers. Here he is getting sodomized by Princess Peach. It's disgusting.

[E]

That's a heterosexual relationship.

[A]

Yes, it is. It's a heterosexual relationship because he's a cuck.

[F]

I was unaware she had the requisite equipment for said move.

[A]

Well, he purchased it for her. Have you ever heard of a strap on?

[F]

Is that a cheat code or something? I'm not sure.

[E]

Yeah, you gotta go. It's. It's insane.

[A]

Super Mario World.

[E]

You gotta go down the right pipe. You get yourself a dildo.

[A]

Yeah. And then she goes down the right pipe. So it's very childish. It's very childish. It's very childish and stupid. But you shouldn't expect any better. Hey, you know how people do Super Chats where you send them money? Well, we don't do that. We do the opposite here. It's time for Reverse Super Chat. Yeah. Yes. Reverse Super Chat. Brought to you by the. I need to make sure. Yeah. The folks at Pure Talk, by the way, they are giving away right now 50 free rumble premium subscriptions. They were just gifted to people in chat. It is 100% United States customer service team. It's a veteran led company. You can save 50% off. You can go to PureTalk.com Crowder. I use their service. You just pay less for the same service. And being able to get someone on the phone is very helpful. Just don't use the phone that you are transferring like I did to turn into the new service and turn off your SIM card.

[F]

Yeah, I'm ready to set up my bit.

[A]

I get better service. I'm just gonna say I was with Verizon before. It sucked. I get better service with them. I know your mileage may vary, but they just gave away 50 super chats and you can save 50% off your first month. And by the way, it's all cheaper than using one of the big carriers anyway. That's been Super Chat. Was that your Cornel West? Reverse Super Chat. Go smoke your cigarette. That's a Reverse Super Chat. Look at those boxes.

[F]

Confetti flying through the air. This is not a serious conversation.

[A]

And I know. I know we're running a bit late, so I apologize, but I took more time on that Dildo.

[F]

Destiny.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I don't like Destiny. I'm just leaning into the childish.

[F]

He's got some problems. I'm sorry, we'll go into it a little bit later. But he went after what was. Forgive me, I forgot the guy's. How to pronounce the guy's last name who was killed at the Trump rally. Compentore. So there. Yeah. So. So yeah, he went in after him. Shouldn't have been at the rally. Shouldn't have been at the rally.

[A]

Good. Good.

[F]

It's a swing state voter. He literally said that on a stream.

[A]

Here's why he bothers you. He is a man who consistently advocates violence who personally is capable of none. Yes, that's why it's true. I advocate peace largely. I'm not a pacifist. And certainly compared to Destiny. Every man here is capable of extreme violence in comparison and we afford people like him grace. That's why. That's not a man. That's not a man. A man who advocates that others commit acts of violence when he's capable of none is not a man. I don't care. By the way, there are plenty of gay men who are more a man than that. He is not willing to do what he believes needs to be done. So he doesn't believe it.

[E]

I'd like to see a sponsored octagon fight between Destiny and Gerald.

[A]

That'd be fun.

[E]

That would be fun.

[F]

Done.

[A]

Climb up that butt. Yeah. By the way, you can't just oil check until he submits. You have to use other submissions.

[E]

Hey, I say, I say no limits. Gerald, you. You knock yourself out there.

[F]

No, I'm gonna be knock him out.

[A]

How hilarious would it be if like Gerald gets in his gonna be a piece of cake. And Destiny just has like a perfect Philly shell shoulder Whitaker and Darryl. Oh world shoot. Dude, I.

[E]

After knowing Gerald for almost two years now I'm convinced that it wouldn't even phase him.

[A]

He would figure it out. He just like, what's this? Oh, is that a good. Is that a good jab? Snap, snap, snap, snap.

[H]

He's holding him up.

[A]

Do you guys think this will work?

[F]

Yeah, I'll weaken at Bernie's him until I'm done.

[A]

Can I throw him out of the cage? You gotta stay in. Look, we're childish sometimes we take the low road because it's the road less traveled. Except for us. But that doesn't change the fact that there have been a lot of lies about someone who a lot of people would obviously see as an ex personally is an example. A man who lived a righteous life by all measures and all evidence that we have available to us. And I want you to know that you don't have to be as good as Charlie Kirk. You don't have to be perfect. This side needs all different kinds of people. But he was. He was. And that's why he's become a symbol, because they took his life anyway, and now they're trying to take his name in lying about his positions. This is important to us, near and dear to our hearts, because if. If something were to happen to me, I would hope that someone could correct the record when I'm no longer here to correct it. It's time for the biggest lies that are now being pushed about Charlie Kirk. It's a claim. Truth. Okay, so the first claim. And he had to apologize for this because he's a moron. Stephen King said that Charlie Kirk advocated stoning gays to death. He advocated stoning gays to death. The truth. No, of course he didn't. And we're going to reverse the next two clips. Charlie Kirk again in context. And Stephen King had to apologize for this, but there are plenty of people who believed it. Now imagine someone believes that for a week, and they go out and act on it. Are you starting to get the picture? Charlie Kirk was describing how people cherry pick Bible verses for their own benefit.

[H]

The first part is Deuteronomy 6:3:5. The second part is Leviticus 19. So you love God, so you must love his law. How do you love somebody?

[A]

Here we go.

[H]

You love them by telling them the truth, not by confirming or affirming their sin. And it says, by the way, Ms. Rachel, you might want to crack open that Bible of yours. In a lesser reference, part of the same part of scripture is in Leviticus 18 is that thou shall lay with another man shall be stoned to death. Just saying. So, Ms. Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19, love your neighbor as yourself. The chapter before affirms God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters. It's very simple. So how do you love somebody, you love them so much to correct their error?

[A]

Yeah.

[H]

And so let's just, you know, take the pride conversation out because people think it's an identification, but it's not just sexual behavior.

[A]

But it's.

[H]

If you meet an alcoholic or you meet a drug addict, do you affirm their struggle? No. You say, you're better than this. Let's get you free from that. Let's get you free from that activity.

[A]

And remember what I said early on Stephen King apologized because he didn't want to see his book sales take a dip. He believes that that position you just heard espoused is violence. The left presents your points of view, your values, all of your perspectives, all of your opinions as violence, no matter what it is. Also, it is an easy mistake. I have to take some ownership here for Stephen King to make, because I'm actually the one who advocated not stoning to death, not stoning, but at least nerfing Stephen King into, like, a slight coma. It's unpleasant.

[E]

The funniest part about that is the implication that those people have any qualms with doing that.

[A]

Well, they would.

[E]

That they're like, I don't know. Should I be the first one to Rotorstone?

[A]

No, no, no.

[E]

They're pushing each other out of the way to. They bring piles in.

[A]

Oh, they would have qualms. They love to do it. Oh, also, it'll be the first time that they've seen a Nerf. It's true. Yeah. What is this? You mean you can stone for longer or longer? So fun. It's great practice stoning. It's dry stoning, we call it. Yes. My arm. For those of you who want to fact check. That's a joke. We list all the references. We list all the references for every factual claim, including in this very segment, link in the description every single day. We're the first show to do it. We're still the only show to do it. And I recommend you go check them out and call us on our crap. Here's the next claim that the left has made. They and a lot of people made this claim that Charlie said black people are too dumb to fly planes. And I saw it was hard for us to put because there's so many tweets and there are so many people saying this. It's not even close. It's not even close. Here's the truth. Charlie Kirk argued that DEI made people worry when they shouldn't be. And he, by the way, specifically in many of these clips, was referencing individuals. But here's the first clip.

[H]

Anytime we reach racial quotas, we relax the standards. Standards for air traffic control professors or college admissions. Therefore, when it comes to pilots or surgeons, if I see somebody who is black, as I said on the show, I'm going to hope that that person is qualified. That's what I said. Which, of course, is legitimate, because they're begging the question. We're not hiring based on merit anymore. We're hiring based on race. So when you see a black pilot, you Wonder boy, is that person there because they earned it or because they were placed there? That's what DEI does. It makes you ask questions you otherwise would not ask.

[A]

Yes. And for self respecting minorities, it makes them ask those questions. There was a change in my mind. I want to say 2019, where there was a girl at UT who said, well, I don't think I would have gotten in without affirmative action. I asked about her SATs. I said, you're more than qualified. You don't believe that you deserve to be here. And you could see on her face the hollowed out feeling that she could never know. But the left will present that, that as violence. Of course they'll lie about it as well. Here's the next claim that they make about Charlie Kirk. They, I think we have a collage here. They claim that Charlie said black women don't have brain processing power. That's how they presented it. Well, here's the truth. He was specifically referencing black women that only had jobs because according to themselves, they were given this job exclusively because they were a black woman.

[H]

If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called the bright. But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us. They're coming out and they're saying, I'm only here because affirmative action. Yeah, we know you do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.

[A]

Again, addressing specific individuals, Black women like Sheila Jackson Lee, Joy Reid, who publicly credited DEI for their opportunity Here, here. I actually am very much in favor of dei. I don't take that as an insult because I understand that that means that I'm just damn excellent and innovative. And yeah, I am dei. I'm bringing diversity and that's bringing something great. You're not insulting me. I certainly am a product of affirmative action.

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Diversity, equity and inclusion matter. Diversity, equity and inclusion. It's good for business and it is.

[A]

Good for the economy. When I first became a public defender.

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I had no criminal defense experience. And I walked in and I told my boss Charlie, I said, listen, you should hire me.

[A]

He said, why? I said, because I'm black. So we will rightfully believe that you were hired because you're black. Yeah.

[E]

Do you have like a resume or.

[A]

Yeah. Also less tactful about it. This DEI pilot. I'm drunk now. I'm drunk right now. Hey, owning it is the first Step it is. You got better first step. Don't fact check that, you silly.

[E]

He's so good, dude. If he was the pilot of a plane, I'd be like, ah, I can't you tell if he's acting, I won't be worried about dei, but worry about, is he acting?

[A]

He'd be the first I'd want to hear, give me the relic. Look, we'll be flying over Schenectady. Yeah. Poughkeepsie. All right. I'm right. My Poughkeepsie. Two degrees. Two degrees. In Pittsburgh, it's two degrees. Next claim that the left makes about Charlie Kirk. The biggest lies. You know, the ones that justified his murder. To the left, let's be clear that Charlie Kirk wanted to genocide trans people.

[I]

The sympathy for Charlie Kirk is weird. There seems to be this weird emphasis on taking the moral high ground and that you are somehow a better person if you're like, I feel bad for his family. This is the world he wanted and the world he was building. This is a white supremacist who wanted both of us dead. He was shot in the middle of saying something transphobic about trans people. And yet you want to have sympathy for him. You don't have to like violence. But I'm confused as to how you thought the revolution was going to be magically bloodless.

[A]

Don't worry, we didn't. By the way, we actually obtained exclusive reverse footage of Said's mirror.

[I]

There is this sympathy for Palestinians. For the Sudanese.

[A]

Gosh.

[E]

Mirror, mirror on the wall.

[B]

Who is.

[A]

Is the weirdest of them all? Freak you. It's always you. In case you wondered when we were going to get back to at least attempting to be funny, here's the truth. And you know that Charlie Kirk caught quite a bit of flack for this because he had gay Republicans. Gay. And I. I don't know if there was a trans conservative, but he had many of them at the events of TP USA and was criticized by some on the right who thought he was normalizing it. And the good news is that's a healthy conversation that people on the right can have. But there can be no doubt that Charlie Kirk dealt very compassionately at every example we've seen with trans individuals when they approached him.

[G]

I just want to say, I'm a transgender male. What age should kids be able to get things like hormone therapy? Because I don't know what's true, what's not.

[H]

Tell me, are you comfortable telling me your story?

[G]

I've known that since, like, third grade, and I'm currently 19, almost 20. I've known basically since then. I didn't start going by like a different name until 7th and 8th grade. I just don't know, like with the Met, like the whole medical stuff, like, what's true, what's not, what's helpful. Because I. I've heard so many different opinions.

[H]

First of all, thank you so much for that. So I'm gonna have an opinion that very few people will ever tell you, which is I want you to be very cautious putting drugs into your system in the pursuit of changing your body. I instead encourage you to work on what's going on in your brain first. I think what you need first and foremost is just a diagnosis. Just someone that is gonna listen to what you gone through, listen to what else is going on. My prayer for you. And again, very few people will say this. I actually want to see you be comfortable in how you were born. Yeah, I know that you might not feel that way, but I think that is something that you can achieve. I think that with the right team and the right people, you don't have to wage war on your body. You can learn to love your body.

[A]

Here's the thing. I don't even agree with everything that he said in that clip. He's a compassionate person. He's speaking truth and love, and he's not changing his position because he's confronted with someone who disagrees with him. Let me ask you this. Where in the hell do those on the left get, Charlie Kirk wants to commit genocide against trans people from that? Here's the answer. They don't. They don't get it from anything that Charlie Kirk said. They get it from the things that they fabricate in order to inspire you and then act like they're surprised by the violence. We have some bonus claims we want to get to here, but we have to continue. Rumble Premium Mug Club is Rumble Premium. Rumble Premium is Mug Club. You get everything ad free. You get 100% more show. It's $99 annually. You get this token, this symbol, this hand etched mug. We can't continue to do any of this without you. You can gift some subscriptions to people out there, try it for $9 a month. We really appreciate your support. We do not have 10, 15, 20 minutes of ads in the show. We do not have any other corporate sponsors, donors out there who tell us what we can and cannot say. I own 100% of what you see here. And we do this completely independently. So please do consider joining. If not, tune in tomorrow, 11am and let us earn your trust. If you're not a rumble premium member, you're going to be sent to tim poole, who no doubt will be covering what's going on with patel right now. Let's go on to this bonus claim.

[C]

Oh, boy.

[A]

We're about to open it. Candace Owens.

[G]

Essentially, what was staged.

[A]

An intervention was staged by bill ackman because Charlie's thought.