Trump Hammers Portland: ANTIFA is a Terrorist Organization that Must be Crushed

Summary

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Louder with Crowder

Episode: Trump Hammers Portland: ANTIFA is a Terrorist Organization that Must be Crushed
Date: September 29, 2025
Host: Steven Crowder (with Gerald and Josh Firestein)

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers on Steven Crowder's support for the Trump administration’s moves to declare Antifa a domestic terrorist organization following unrest in Portland. The episode critiques what Crowder sees as legacy media misinformation on Antifa’s organization and highlights issues related to illegal immigration, digital ID implementation in the UK, and the cultural normalization of first cousin marriage abroad. The show combines political commentary, satire, and news analysis in Crowder’s signature irreverent and combative style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Antifa: Organized Terror or Decentralized Protest?

Timestamps: 11:54 – 28:46

• Crowder’s Position: Antifa meets the criteria for being a terrorist group due to organization, membership, recruitment, coordinated actions, and the use of violence for political ends.
• Main Argument:
  • The left's argument that Antifa cannot be designated a terrorist organization because it lacks centralized leadership mirrors past inability to designate foreign terrorist organizations before 1997 (14:06).
  • Street gangs and other loosely affiliated organizations (e.g., Bloods, Crips) are still federally classified—Antifa should be no exception.

Notable Quote:

“If this is not an organization with membership, then none exists. You guys understand that, right?” – Steven Crowder (20:47)

• Organization & Membership:

  • Portland’s Rose City Antifa is “closed to members only” with verification processes and chapters, mirroring a “country club for assholes” (19:24).
  • Antifa International shows “cross-border collaboration” among chapters and organized support for activists facing legal trouble (21:17).

• Legal Infrastructure & Funding:

  • National Lawyers Guild is portrayed as a pro-Antifa legal group, donning green hats at riots to aid members in avoiding prosecution (22:44).
  • Financial support is openly sourced through GoFundMe and U.S. non-profits, with higher-level funding potentially from state-supported organizations (24:17).

Memorable Moment:

“If you see people in these green hats at Far left riots know that they are not independent legal observers, but are members of an ANTIFA legal group called the National Lawyers Guild.” – Steven Crowder, citing Andy Ngo (22:24)

• Media Critique:

  • Legacy and leftist media ignore/obscure Antifa’s structure, creating an unserious image of Antifa to discount its impact and violence.
  • Antifa’s violence is systematically underreported or misclassified in statistical data, notably through sources like the Cato Institute and the Prosecution Project, the latter of which Crowder claims is run by activists with pro-Antifa biases (16:05, 18:05).

• Bias in Violence Data:

  • Crowder details how many incidents of Antifa violence are not logged as "political violence,” while random acts by white men are default labeled as right-wing violence (28:34, 30:58).

2. Portland as an Epicenter for Radical Activism

Timestamps: 11:34 – 14:06

• Portland vs. Austin: Compares weirdness and radicalism, characterizing Portland as a hub for leftist activism and mockingly as a place where “everyone looks like a gay Nazi” (12:02).
• Slogan Origins: Jokes about “Keep Portland Weird,” debating if Austin or Portland is weirder (11:54).

Memorable Moment:

“Everyone in Portland looks like a gay Nazi.” – Josh Firestein (12:02)

3. On-the-Ground Enforcement & Media Portrayal

Timestamps: 7:18 – 10:22

• Britain's Law Enforcement: Mockery of ineffective police raids in the UK, using satirical commentary and physical comedy to highlight purported incompetence (7:18–10:22).

4. Illegal Immigration in U.S. Education Administration

Timestamps: 34:15 – 43:01

• Case of Dr. Ian Roberts in Des Moines:
  • Arrested for being an illegal alien while running Des Moines’ public schools.
  • Discussion of long-term illegal presence, successive school administration jobs, and policies favoring hiring those with criminal histories.
  • Salary Highlight: Roberts was paid $286,000/year for the role; population of Des Moines is ~213,000 (39:02–39:38).

Notable Quote:

“All those nice suits he was wearing… he got more than a dollar per resident of the entire [city].” – Gerald (39:26)

• Broader Issue:
  • 50,000+ overstayed student visas in 2023.
  • Media quickly dropped the story once Roberts’ illegal status became prominent (44:02).

5. UK Digital IDs and Government Overreach

Timestamps: 53:26 – 60:39

• Keir Starmer’s Approval: Now Britain’s least popular PM, net approval -66 (53:26).
• New Policy: Announcing mandatory digital IDs for all UK adults as a measure to control illegal employment and immigration (54:32–56:11).
• Crowder’s Critique:
  • Digital IDs are an overreach, beyond historic border enforcement needs.
  • Predicts a slippery slope toward surveillance and restriction of personal liberties, as seen in other countries (56:54).
  • Notes Larry Ellison (Oracle founder) as a driving force behind UK digital ID lobbying (58:00).

Notable Quote:

"You have to have this digital ID to even have a job in the UK? ...You are going to open the door for incredible government overreach." – Gerald (56:54)

6. Cousin Marriage & Multiculturalism in the UK

Timestamps: 44:02 – 52:24

• Controversial NHS Guidance: UK’s public health service highlights possible benefits of first cousin marriage, sparking satirical derision from the hosts (44:02–47:00).
• Cultural Breakdown:
  • High prevalence among sub-Saharan African, Middle Eastern, and South Asian populations in the UK (48:03).
  • Pakistani Britons account for 30% of all congenital birth defects despite being only 4% of births (51:14).
  • Discussion of genetic consequences and failure of assimilation.

Memorable Quote:

“There are 17 states that are still allowing first cousin marriage, including California, New York and Vermont. But it is banned in Arkansas, Mississippi and West Virginia… the founder of the feast on what not to do when banging cousins.” – Gerald (51:38)

7. Broader Critiques: Double Standards & Media Bias

• Statistics on violence are skewed by left-leaning researchers omitting Antifa attacks and stretching the definition of “right-wing violence.”
• Mainstream narratives dismiss organizational structure of radical groups when inconvenient, but use loose standards to brand opposition broadly as extremist.
• Institutional decay exemplified through unwarranted trust in government, policy overreach (e.g., digital IDs), and immigration failures in both the U.S. and U.K.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Antifa is absolutely a domestic terror organization.” – Steven Crowder (25:06)
• “It’s like a country club for assholes.” – Steven Crowder, on Antifa membership (19:32)
• “You look fantastic. …It’s RuPaul’s SS.” – Steven Crowder, satirizing Portland’s aesthetic (12:06)
• “The group helps ANTIFA and far left terrorists escape prosecution.” – Steven Crowder, citing Andy Ngo re: National Lawyers Guild (22:24)
• “Everywhere surrounding Austin is very red. People don’t realize that.” – Steven Crowder (06:58)
• “Vietnam froze 86 million bank accounts that failed to comply with the new biometric rule.” – Gerald (56:54)

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Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------|------------------| | Crowder’s opening & intro | 00:00 – 06:01 | | UK police raid mockery | 07:18 – 10:22 | | Portland & Antifa as radical epicenter | 11:34 – 14:06 | | “Antifa is Terrorist Organization” thesis | 14:06 – 28:46 | | Data bias in violence stats | 28:01 – 30:59 | | Dr. Ian Roberts & illegal school admin | 34:15 – 43:01 | | NHS cousin marriage guidance satire | 44:02 – 52:24 | | UK Digital IDs & data surveillance | 53:26 – 60:39 |

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Tone & Language

• Signature irreverence and sarcasm: The show consistently leans into biting satire and edgy jokes (often courting controversy by today’s standards).
• Conversational & combative: Hosts frequently riff on each other, using in-jokes and improv-style commentary during news breakdowns.
• Pop culture references: Analogies and humor span from “RuPaul’s SS” to “country club for assholes.”

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Summary Takeaway

Crowder and crew position themselves as counter-narrative truth-tellers, challenging authorities and legacy media on issues like far-left political violence, systematized legal protections for radicals, media data bias, and government overreach through digital surveillance. They warn that Antifa, far from being an unorganized collection of protestors, is a coordinated, well-funded political force that should be formally targeted by federal law. The episode concludes with derision for institutional failures on both sides of the Atlantic, and a call for listeners/viewers to remain vigilant and skeptical of both government and mainstream media narratives.

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Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

Welcome to the lineup live here on Rumble. That's weekdays at 9:00am Eastern through 7:00pm Each show rolls into the next. It's an umbrella of independent content creators all supporting each other and dominating I think is the term that they use. But welcome Vincente viewers. We have a lot to get to today. Antifa. Let me ask you this before anything else, I actually had prepared when I did the Black Lives Matter as a terrorist organization changed my mind. A long time ago. We had a changed my mind prepared for Antifa being a terrorist organization. But we didn't get to it because Antifa terrorized the table. So, you know, I could rest my case, but I won't. Do you think Antifa is a terrorist organization and your opinion is largely relevant because this administration does. It's going to be official. That's fun. But it is a good time to watch all these folks in Portland finally get the ass kicking they so deserve. We're going to be talking about that. Also about illegal immigrants who are running your schools. That's fun. Keir Starmer. Digital IDs and the TikTok still banned. No word on that, but I hope maybe we'll be able to get back. I have no idea. You say one time that Xi Jinping has a tiny Winnie the Pooh penis and your Persona non grata. I don't understand the rule book, but maybe we'll figure it out today. On with the show now. This just in. The Fed has dropped interest rates. Now hang on, let me make sure I'm getting this right. Yep, there it is folks. American financing can help you refinance.

[Josh Firestein]

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[Steven Crowder]

Uh huh. Hold on, there's more coming in. Bear with me folks. This is news to me as well.

[Josh Firestein]

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[Steven Crowder]

Pipe down.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, I have no one to talk to. It's just me and you.

[Steven Crowder]

Wait, wait one moment folks. I want to make sure I'm accurate with this.

[Josh Firestein]

She took my dog too. The kids were.

[Steven Crowder]

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[Josh Firestein]

Do you think they could delay my divorce?

[Steven Crowder]

I'll delay your paycheck.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, that's not going to bring my wife back.

[Steven Crowder]

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[Josh Firestein]

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[Steven Crowder]

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[Gerald]

And I hope you get the hell.

[Steven Crowder]

Out of our pants.

[Gerald]

People want that to be illegal.

[Steven Crowder]

It's just someone's opinion. You can look at Veterans Memorial Day. Well, there are horrible actions that were committed. I did the same way about those holidays. Oh, you do? I do. Why do you believe in abolishing police? How would that help black Americans?

[Gerald]

Oh, there's a lot of things you.

[Steven Crowder]

Can start investing in different organizations and mental health. I think I somewhat changed your mind by accident.

[Gerald]

By accident.

[Steven Crowder]

Thanks. Feel free to make your case and change my mind. Even though we disagree, you can sit down, express your point of view, and some people on the left view that in and of itself as adding fuel to the fire. Or, and people feel free to sit down and actually discuss their position.

[Josh Firestein]

That's what I know.

[Steven Crowder]

Why are you laughing? It's a family show.

[Gerald]

You know exactly why I'm laughing.

[Steven Crowder]

I, I, you know, when I do my gratitudes and my prayers, you know, I'm thankful for my house. I'm thankful for my family. I'm thankful. I actually list thankful that no one ever sees run through.

[Gerald]

That's true. Or 10 seconds prior to the show.

[Steven Crowder]

Coming on, we're the same people just cranked up. All right. But you know what? You get to see the final product weekdays at 11am Eastern. That's, you know, that's the best way to tune in. It's like a TV Guide thing. And Captain Morgan, CEO, how are you?

[Gerald]

I'm doing well. How are you?

[Steven Crowder]

I didn't mean to throw you for such a loop.

[Gerald]

You throw me for a loop? It was just hilarious, what you were doing. I don't know if I'd do it on the show, but.

[Steven Crowder]

No, I won't. I won't give it a.

[Gerald]

By the way, pull that back up, Tim. I didn't even notice one of the. One of the people that, like, admonished.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Gerald]

Did you notice that that was up?

[Steven Crowder]

I didn't, but I support it.

[Gerald]

Okay, fine.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, I like it.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. There are a lot of things that, you know, I don't have my hand cave over here. I don't have my fingers in every pie here anymore. Right. I can't. I can't be dealing with the lower thirds. That's not my job.

[Josh Firestein]

But what does it mean, though, what the job is?

[Steven Crowder]

Admonish. Yeah, it's like. It's like a black belt in failure.

[Josh Firestein]

I don't think I understand it.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, that's the whole point. You're not really, like. It's not standard, you know, like in some places, like, hey, you've been training for 10 years, you got your black belt. And in some places, like, hey, your mom's check cleared. Here's your black belt. In your case, you've earned it. Friday, Saturday, November 28th and 29th, at Bricktown Comedy Club in Tulsa, Oklahoma, Mr. Josh Firestein. How are you, sir?

[Josh Firestein]

I'm good. Good. Had a good weekend in Austin, Texas?

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

I had a lot of fun.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

Saw some old friends.

[Steven Crowder]

Any riots?

[Josh Firestein]

No, no riots.

[Steven Crowder]

Good.

[Josh Firestein]

But I did coin a new term. Austin is Republican. Portland.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, well, there you go. I think Texans would probably, you know, what would prob argue with you?

[Josh Firestein]

Well, they. They laughed.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

I don't know if they're laughing at me.

[Steven Crowder]

Everywhere surrounding Austin is very red. People don't realize that. I think, actually, in some elections, it would surprise you. Austin went red and Houston went blue.

[Josh Firestein]

Did it really?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. And Houston is the sphincter of Texas. It's gross.

[Josh Firestein]

It is gross. It's not in the center, but it's definitely where the shit comes out.

[Steven Crowder]

Including Texas and enema. Houston is where you'd stick the hose.

[Josh Firestein]

Just take a sniff test, and you'll see.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm glad you had fun. Now, look, here's the thing. We're gonna have a little bit more fun here, because if you commit a crime in Great Britain, in the uk, the good news is that even if you know the police are coming for you, you still have a lot of time, even when they're at your front door. No, this is not an episode of Feminist Cops. That is real.

[Josh Firestein]

What's the one guy doing with the sticks, though?

[Steven Crowder]

All right, let me try this with my man bun here.

[Josh Firestein]

Yes. Somebody top somebody with a man bun, come in.

[Steven Crowder]

That Beauty and the beast was false advertising. This doesn't function at all.

[Josh Firestein]

Try doing it at the bottom. Have you tried hitting it like a man?

[Steven Crowder]

Even then when it opens, that guy seems so surprised. Like, hey, hey. It opened, didn't it?

[Gerald]

That's crazy.

[Steven Crowder]

It happened. We finally open one. We should probably go in.

[Josh Firestein]

The lady with the fake orange hair was like, I loosened it up.

[Steven Crowder]

I loosened it up.

[Gerald]

My job.

[Steven Crowder]

Just like that old pickle jar at the end.

[Gerald]

He says, where are you? He's, I'm gone for 10 minutes. Just walking by.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, no. Turns out he has a back door.

[Josh Firestein]

That had a gate.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

And this siege, like, break in was actually their second attempt at gaining access. Their first method wasn't as effective either. Hey, it's us. They're not police.

[Gerald]

There's a siren on it.

[Steven Crowder]

It's like an equestrian kinder surprise. Open it and you. That's all.

[Josh Firestein]

I have chocolate inside.

[Steven Crowder]

Like, this is. How do they not know? I mean, unless it's a different device. Can you guys comment? I always thought you would go where either the handle or the bolt is. Yeah, that's what I. I think that's right.

[Josh Firestein]

Right where the point where.

[Steven Crowder]

Where it locks. So that must mean there's break that. Yeah. There's no training. I mean, you would have had to do that, right? In the military, at some point, I.

[Josh Firestein]

Used a shotgun that would have been effective, but if I was using a shotgun, I would go after the hinges or after the bolt.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, right.

[Gerald]

I mean, I think that, like, the male testosterone of the group. I just. Somebody needs to walk up with a shotgun. I was going to say that. So that's perfect timing, Josh. But, yeah, everyone's swinging.

[Steven Crowder]

It's like everything about it is wrong. In other words, the door didn't look strong. No, it didn't.

[Josh Firestein]

Because you can see. Because they're doing it at the top, which is like. You can see the leverage is wrong. But it's moving. Yeah, it's moving. Then there's a guy breaking sticks.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

I think he was using it as leverage. Like, he put it in there, and, like, they know what they.

[Steven Crowder]

One of those foam egg crate doors.

[Josh Firestein]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Really? Like, you could go for the bolt, or you could go for the hinges. But it's like. No, no, no. Look, I'm gonna go about this. Let's. Let me go where there's no structural integrity. Right. It has no formal function. If I'll break that, it won't affect anything else.

[Josh Firestein]

They could have went with a different. A bunch of different methods. They could have went like a shotgun, a breach explosion, small one. They could have hit where the bolt is. Yeah. They could have got one American guy with a boot.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes. Yes. They could have grabbed that one female cop and used her like a battering ram. Here we go again. I had a headache.

[Josh Firestein]

That's using your head, love.

[Steven Crowder]

Grab me up a few. Grab me of a bitch. Two heads are better than one. All right.

[Josh Firestein]

Get one of Those World War I German helmets with the spike Kaiser helmet.

[Gerald]

I'm in.

[Steven Crowder]

She just goes through the door and gets stuck.

[Josh Firestein]

You live here now?

[Steven Crowder]

She's on the other side. I can see the look now. They open it. Oh, hey, Dr. Sleepy.

[Gerald]

This sounds.

[Josh Firestein]

This sounds like a Wallace and Gromit sketch.

[Gerald]

The guy's inside.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm not. Oh. He says he's gone.

[Josh Firestein]

It would be so great if they got in and then it was the wrong house. He lives three doors down.

[Gerald]

Eh.

[Josh Firestein]

Are you William?

[Steven Crowder]

No. Bill.

[Josh Firestein]

Sorry.

[Steven Crowder]

Sorry. Fix that door. Wouldn't you. All right. Portland sucks. Let's just establish that Portland's a terrible place. It's an awful place that I also believe stole Austin's slogan. Can you guys let me know if you're from Portland? The Keep Portland weird. Who did that first, Austin or Portland? And then who did it better?

[Josh Firestein]

I will say they're weirder.

[Gerald]

It's definitely weird.

[Josh Firestein]

Portland is weirder for sure.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gerald]

There's.

[Steven Crowder]

There's only so many penny farthing bicycles you can find.

[Josh Firestein]

Everyone in Portland looks like a gay Nazi.

[Gerald]

Yes, exactly. Wow.

[Steven Crowder]

That's true. You look fantastic.

[Josh Firestein]

They're unicycling to work. It's a weird place.

[Steven Crowder]

It's RuPaul's SS.

[Josh Firestein]

SS.

[Steven Crowder]

So it's terrible. It would be one of the most beautiful cities in the country, you know, at one point in time, and it would be an epicenter. Now I'm thinking of an English accent. Epicenter. It would be an epicenter of tourism if it hadn't been destroyed by radical leftists or, as we know them now, mainstream Democrats. But Portland is what it is, and it's sort of the breeding ground of a lot of the most radical Anthva people. So their tourism spots are a little Different. We're a place of dualities that are never polarities. Two sides of the same coin that keeps landing right on its head.

[Josh Firestein]

Anything can happen here.

[Steven Crowder]

This is Portland.

[Gerald]

So is this.

[Steven Crowder]

You like it this way?

[Gerald]

So is this.

[Josh Firestein]

And this. So is this and this. Nah, not that.

[Steven Crowder]

Is this Portland? Yep, that's Portland.

[Josh Firestein]

That's Portland. Her, that thing and all of this. You get it? We're not perfect.

[Steven Crowder]

We have some of the loudest voices.

[Gerald]

On the west coast.

[Steven Crowder]

Sometimes passion pushes the volume all the way up.

[Josh Firestein]

And this, this is Portland.

[Steven Crowder]

It ain't over till the fat EBT sings.

[Josh Firestein]

I like in the original tourism ad that they used every black person that lives in Portland.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, exactly.

[Josh Firestein]

They're very pro black city. They just don't want them in there.

[Steven Crowder]

I think Oregon, if I'm not mistaken, someone confection, I think it was an own. A white only state originally. Yeah, sort of.

[Gerald]

So it wasn't explicitly white only, but like every rule they had said black people can't live here. Oh, okay.

[Steven Crowder]

So it was implied. It was, yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

The original, the original motto is black people can live here, Oregon.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Yes. So Antifa. Right. This is really the basis on Sunday, Trump, using the powers of Title 10, sent National Guard troops in to Portland and Antifa, finally. We've been harping on this since 2018. At least Antifa has now been classified or it's going to be. He suggested it. It looks like it's obviously in the works. They're going to be classified as a terror organization. A terrorist organization. Isn't that a good thing at this point? Right. Aren't we all on board with this? Now here's the thing. You're going to hear a claim out there. Check all the references. They're available links in the description. We do it every show. So the claim here is that, well, there's no legal way to designate Antifa a terror group because it doesn't have central organization. It's domestic, not foreign. Right. There's no actual classification for a domestic terror organization. Well, okay, here's the truth. Yeah, there's no domestic terrorism sort of classification, but there actually was no foreign terror organization classification before 1997. Right. The list was made in response to a problem where he said, well, we have to do something about these terrorist organizations and we do have an official death definition of domestic terror in this country. So it's just kind of combining two things, saying, all right, at one point we decided to codify into law that we could recognize international terrorist organizations. We have a definition of terrorism Does Antifa meet the criteria also? They are a group. They do have membership. Just to be clear, they do have chapters. If you want to say they're not an official group, you could say that about any street gang. You could say about the Bloods, the Crips. You could say it about all of these biker gangs. They don't actually have a written record.

[Josh Firestein]

The hello Kitty fan club.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Josh Firestein]

And they didn't. The Bronies 501 C3.

[Steven Crowder]

No, that's exactly right. So it's a silly argument, but you hear it from the left, even though they claim otherwise when they're behind closed doors. So we're gonna get into this and kind of make the case for you. But first, download the Rumble app. Follow me there. That's the best way to stay in touch. YouTube said they were going to let people back on, but they immediately booted Alex Jones and said, no, no, no, we're not actually doing that yet. So you guys should be on Rumble. Here are a couple of key facts. Key fact number one, Antifa is absolutely an organized terror group. And I want you to remember this. This is very important and it may come up in the following days. You've seen that chart out there. You've seen those numbers where the left is now saying, actually there's more violence coming from the right wing. All right, it either comes from one of two places, Cato, which is only domestic terrorism deaths, or it comes from this article that was largely circulated by the Economist. Now, the basis for those crime stats is entirely the Prosecution project. You'll see that written hyperlinked tpp. Okay, go check the link. The person who's behind that is Professor Michael Lowdenthal. Right. So the numbers that you're hearing, there's more right wing violence than left wing violence is from this organization. And this man, Professor Michael Lowdenthal, who by the way, was arrested alongside his Antifa BRETHREN at the January 20th protest when Donald Trump became president. Yeah, there are 200 something arrests. Guess what's not listed as political violence?

[Gerald]

What?

[Steven Crowder]

And here he is openly discussing that Antifa is an organized group and even their tactics.

[Josh Firestein]

You know, one thing that I think.

[Steven Crowder]

Is really misunderstood is that people think that Antifa are not organized.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, of course, like that's silly.

[Steven Crowder]

Why would anarchists organize?

[Josh Firestein]

But like, if you look today, like right now, thousands of activists who are resisting, like proto fascist groups, like, who do you think organized that?

[Steven Crowder]

That's literally as we speak.

[Josh Firestein]

Literally right now as we're filming. I mean, and like myself and many.

[Steven Crowder]

Other people, many of whom would identify.

[Josh Firestein]

As anarchists, have been surveilling those groups, those individuals who are arriving to D.C. to quote, unquote, stop the steal. We've been surveilling them for weeks, months and years. And some of them we've been surveilling for decades.

[Steven Crowder]

So when people cite to you there's more right wing violence than left wing violence. Remember, that's the guy behind the Prosecution Project. Think this guy created these stats and he committed some alleged crimes and didn't list those. Also didn't list shootings, firebombings that were committed expressly in the name of Antifa.

[Gerald]

Wow.

[Josh Firestein]

It's like a guy getting divorced and the reasons he leaves out his affairs.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly.

[Josh Firestein]

Like what? I didn't do anything wrong.

[Steven Crowder]

So it really doesn't matter in this case, because people can have biases. That's true. And they can still do good work. This man has incredible biases and he does not do good work. It is propaganda. I just want to be very, very clear about that. It's either Cato or the Prosecution Project. Those are the two only sources that reflect it. And we'll go through all the other examples that are not included as well. Key fact number two on Antifa being a domestic terrorist organization, they do recruit both nationally and internationally. Let me read you this. So nationally, Portland's Rose City Antifa said that they are, quote, a group closed to members only.

[Gerald]

Well, crap.

[Steven Crowder]

How much more official do you get than that?

[Gerald]

They don't have jackets.

[Steven Crowder]

It's not a group. But I need to be membership.

[Gerald]

Of what?

[Steven Crowder]

Nothing.

[Gerald]

But it's closed.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, and it's closed. So you can only get in if you go through a process to become a member, a member of this organization known as Antifa. But we're not an organization. We don't have membership.

[Gerald]

Clear.

[Steven Crowder]

They also wrote if someone in block tells you their quote from Rose City Antifa but doesn't offer you a way to confirm it either by emailing us or referring you to somebody who can reliably verify our identity, then it's safe to assume you didn't just meet somebody from Rose City Antifa. So they have membership. Right. Attendance is closed to anyone who is not an official member, and they have a verification process to confirm the identity of the member. It's like a country club for assholes.

[Josh Firestein]

That's more verification than the TSA does.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, exactly right. And our undercover team, by the way, was able to infiltrate their ranks. We did it in Utah a long time ago at that Ben Shapiro event. We did it again. And even learned this time their secret, their secret handshake. Many of their meetings take place in public stalls.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, that's the Glory Hole gang. That's a different, different gang.

[Gerald]

Lots of aids.

[Steven Crowder]

It's the Van Buren Boys. All right, recruiting internationally. So Antifa International on Tumblr. Yes, Antifa International, but it's not a group. It's not an organization. No, no, no, no, no. They separate geographically. They separate by chapters, by rank. They have membership, they confirm membership, but they're not a group. This is just a post that comes from Antifa International on Tumblr in a lot of ways. And I know people say antifa, but I've always said Antifa. Antifa are more organized than ever before. And we're seeing cross border collaboration with projects like this, Tumblr, the International Anti Fascist Defense Fund, the International Day of Solidarity with Anti Fascist Prisoners, et cetera. So they claim they are more organized than ever. They are recruiting, they have membership. And if Donald Trump says this needs to be recognized as a domestic terror organization, the left quibbles with it's not actually an organization. You could say the same, really? About Freemasons, about the Elk Lodge, about the Rotary Club. If this is not an organization with membership, then none exists. You guys understand that, right? Another key fact number three. Antifa organizes with lawyers to help members who are arrested. So they actually do have funding. Some people out there have done some great work in tracking it, and they have lawyers, I would believe, on retainers. So, Andy. No. By the way, a gay guy who looks very normal, you'll see in this clip, like, our gays look normal. Their gays look like they just crawled out of a sewer.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, ours are just like. They just look like a dude who.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, they just look like someone who goes home and kisses guys.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, he's just a dude who likes dudes.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, whatever.

[Gerald]

Weird. Yeah, I'm just gonna say that it's.

[Josh Firestein]

Like the ultimate bro.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. So, Andy. What?

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah. You know how you're always sitting around with your bros and you're like, man, I wish somebody would touch me?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly.

[Josh Firestein]

Cause it's not you, bro. Not you, bro. Like, no, no, it's okay. I'm the ultimate bro.

[Steven Crowder]

I forgot that Gerald is the perfect stoic who doesn't need human touch.

[Josh Firestein]

I know.

[Steven Crowder]

So Andy Ngo highlighted the lawyer issue there. How they show up to riots to help them escape prosecution. And they've been very effective with this. This is what he wrote. He wrote, if you see people in these green hats at Far left riots know that they are not independent legal observers, but are members of an ANTIFA legal group called the National Lawyers Guild. The group helps ANTIFA and far left terrorists escape prosecution. And this is a guy who got mercilessly beaten by multiple members of Antifa, by the way. And I know that many escaped without charges probably because of these lawyers. Here is what these antifa lawyers actually look like. Green hats.

[Josh Firestein]

They look like sad Seahawks fans after a loss.

[Steven Crowder]

They look like they should be thrown into the court at a WNBA game.

[Josh Firestein]

Yes.

[Gerald]

Shrek cosplay, dude.

[Steven Crowder]

So, okay, we have membership, we have chapters in different locales, both nationally, internationally. We have an organizational structure for the members of antifa and then we have lawyers who assist. But is there some kind of organizational structure that can be traced financially? Do they have any type of financial backing which would be kind of important? Well, here's Andy Ngo talking about just that. How's that raised? Well, a lot of it was done through things like GoFundMe out completely in the open. Not dark money, not Bitcoin or some other currency like that on GoFundMe. Now, where higher level levels of sourcing of funding come from, that flows through many of the registered non profits, many of them who actually receive state funding. And another thing that is adjacent to the funding or money question, rather, is that rioters and violent suspects on the left are actually encouraged to be violent.

[Josh Firestein]

Because.

[Steven Crowder]

There are these networks of attorneys who are immediately available to file civil lawsuits against police departments in cities claiming police brutality. And you guys can go check out his ex and please go support Andy Ngo because he's done a lot of work.

[Gerald]

He's really.

[Steven Crowder]

He's put his ass on the line and he's received some unbelievable beatings and acts of violence carried out against him as a result. So please do support him. Look, Antifa is absolutely a domestic terror organization. They want to appear, when convenient, decentralized. And here are the questions that I have. Why is no one else in the media, legacy media, a lot of, by the way, any leftist media, but legacy media and even the online leftist programs, why are none of them doing the digging? Why are none of them presenting to you that there are chapters, that there's a membership process, verification that they have legal backing? Why are none of them doing that? And let me ask you this, are there any other groups? Let's just say they're a political activism group. Can you name me one other politically active group, a political activism group that doesn't actually make demands? As far as you getting it's not a get out the vote. They wear masks to remain anonymous. And they only carry out their actions in the streets against civilians or police officers. Think about that for a second. They exist solely to riot and disrupt and harm American citizens with whom they disagree or police or ice carrying out their job. Can you name me any comparable organization that is acting actually seen as a legitimate political organization? So, okay, we can discount they're not a political organization, but they are an organization. They are organized for what? To commit terrorism. Their modus operandi is to terrorize you. It's to instill fear. Terror. Hey, hope your city doesn't get burned down. Hey, if you show up to counter protest, if you show up to support a conservative speaker, you might get some bricks in the face, you might get some homemade explosives, you might get shot, as we have seen. By the way, you remember that, of course, Reinhold shot Aaron Danielson in Portland. We have a Trump supporter here. Bang, bang, dead. 100% Antifa is how he identified. They'll kill you if they can. They'll hurt you whenever able in order to achieve their political goal, which is kind of anarchy. But they're socialists. I get it's easy to not take them seriously because you see so many of them and they look like pansexual gender queers. The thing is, there are just so many of them and they are incredibly organized and they are willing to commit violence in instances where other American citizens show up and don't have violence on their mind. That's a huge advantage that they have. That's the single biggest advantage to their organizational structure, is they are able to plan violence. When you plan civil disobedience and protest, this is an organized terror group. They need to be classified as such. And absolutely, whether it's a national guard, whether it's ice cracking down. Can we find that video of ice in Portland shooting the pepper balls from their paintball guns at their feet?

[Josh Firestein]

It should be easy to find. It was like this weekend, wasn't it?

[Steven Crowder]

It was this weekend. They'll say, fascist, show me a fascist government that shot non lethal rounds not even at the criminals, but at the ground in order to set a preventative perimeter.

[Josh Firestein]

From a paintball gun? From a paintball gun, no less, With a little tank on top and all. Yeah, CO2 tanks in the back.

[Steven Crowder]

But they'll see a pepper ball hit the ground, they'll claim that's violence and they'll justify murder. By the way, none of the antifa murders are registered as left wing political violence. According to the prosecution Project.

[Josh Firestein]

Is it not registered as political or is it not registered as left wing? Because it's absolutely insane to me that you can't classify something as political when they literally have a political ideology in the name fascism.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, it's in the.

[Josh Firestein]

It's like if you said anti. If I was anti Dem.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. It's not classified as democracy, it's not classified as political violence at all. And certainly not left wing. There are some exceptions where antifa attacking government buildings is classified as right wing political violence because it's anti government.

[Gerald]

What?

[Steven Crowder]

Those are the only exceptions that I found. I have spent a lot of time and so is research. Do that.

[Gerald]

That's not fair.

[Steven Crowder]

That is what they do.

[Gerald]

No way.

[Steven Crowder]

It's a lie. And think about that lie that antifa is behind and this professor who's a part of them think about that lie. If they say there's more violence coming from the right wing also words are violence. Also silence is violence. Well, it justifies their non existent violence in combating the violent right wing. I don't know if there's an off ramp here.

[Josh Firestein]

See, they can't do they get a bunch of people in a room, left wing on left side, right wing on right side, and they go, how do you guys feel about the government? And the left wing yells and then the right wing just stays silent and they go up. Yeah, you guys are violent.

[Steven Crowder]

Just like every single white supremacist act of violence is right wing. Every single act of violence that's carried out from a white man against a minority, even if it's not political at all.

[Gerald]

Really?

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, political violence. Right wing.

[Gerald]

I mean, do we want to be able to.

[Steven Crowder]

I can show you direct examples of.

[Gerald]

Information that we're gathering in these studies. I mean, all you have to do really is put up a picture of this guy. His support for antifa, which is very easily verifiable, viable by a couple of videos, maybe five minutes on a Google search or whatever. And now you understand very quickly that this study cannot be taken at face value. How does the. It was the economist that ran it.

[Steven Crowder]

Right, the economist look into it for five seconds.

[Gerald]

They did figure out what's going on.

[Steven Crowder]

No, they know it. It's propaganda, doesn't it's. It is propaganda.

[Josh Firestein]

They're a right wing lunatic for thinking that's anything else than the truth.

[Gerald]

Oh yeah, because I want Dick.

[Josh Firestein]

They've already set that precedent that if you, you question these numbers, these, these, these absolutely, you know, not biased numbers, then you are a right wing conspiracy theorist lunatic.

[Steven Crowder]

I'LL give you an example. Remember that man, I think was it in Texas who shot the. Shot those ladies at the massage parlor, remember? Because he would go there and get, he would get dirty massages.

[Gerald]

I think that was in Georgia.

[Steven Crowder]

That's right, it was in Georgia.

[Gerald]

Somewhere in there.

[Steven Crowder]

And he said this needs to be stopped because of the temptation. And I'm a sex addict. That's registered as right wing political violence.

[Gerald]

Really? Yep.

[Steven Crowder]

Because they. Some of the people were shot are minorities. So if you're going to use that standard, how can a non organization with a charter, with a list of demands, a membership processed, a membership process, and by the way, a mission statement on fighting right wing fascism not be included? How can you include a random shooting from a psycho with no political goal and not include the many, many, many people murdered, let alone assaulted at the hands of Antifa?

[Josh Firestein]

I was just thinking about how the antifa is. You know you can only go to antifa meetings if you're a member. Right, but they support illegal immigration. Yes, that's just very funny to me.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't know. You don't have to be a member.

[Josh Firestein]

Of the US to be here. But our meetings are very closed off.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, you're from Ms. 13. Well, we can just give them a Taft Hartley agreement.

[Josh Firestein]

They're going to get ID cards. Antifa member.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, by the way, member, speaking of membership, we don't do, you know, we don't do super chats here where you guys send us money because you can either join Rumble Premium, which is Mug Club, Mug Club is Rumble Premium or not. And let us earn your support tomorrow, but we do something a little different. Yeah, we do the reverse. That's why it's called Reverse Super Chat. That's right. Today, and this is brought to you by crypto.com, they're going to be giving back 50 free rumble premium subscriptions. They were just gifted to people in the chat thanks to crypto.com. so look, I don't know a whole lot about cryptocurrency aside from obviously bitcoin is a thing and some stable coins. A lot of the other stuff out there is bullcrap. But crypto.com is one of the few places where you can actually go, take part and know that it's legitimate and be protected. Go to crypto.com and if you're into crypto, that's the place to go. Yeah, they just gave away 50 free super chats.

[Gerald]

50 free super chats. Make sure you tag and take a picture and tag us on social media. And let us know if you got a new membership.

[Steven Crowder]

Do we have to sting her out? Super. I mean, reverse super chat. All right, sting around. All right. Gerald is actually going to tell you about how illegals are running your schools. No, no, it's not a crazy conspiracy. It's actually true. Just like the fact that we invected people in South America with gonorrhea to experiment on treatments. And Hillary Clinton apologized for that. It's irrelevant. But the point is, we've done some shit. I can't be here for that, though. You'll find out why tomorrow. I do have to run. It's time for a Korean fire drill. Do you have the. Dr. Ian Roberts is. What's that?

[Josh Firestein]

Whoa.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

Now Billy has no idea where to go. Good choice. I mean. No, no, no. We're not letting Josh run the soundboard. That's a terrible idea.

[Steven Crowder]

What about this one?

[Gerald]

He's a natural. Oh, my gosh.

[Josh Firestein]

Do you have fun over there, Josh?

[Gerald]

Was that everything?

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, I was. I was actually. I was hoping that I would hit ones that didn't make any sense and would be out of context, but I.

[Gerald]

Actually all made perfect sense.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, he has a little. He has a little soundboard thing over there and it's just lights. All little squares with lights.

[Gerald]

Right, right.

[Josh Firestein]

No labels on them or anything. I don't know how he knows what he's doing over there, but have this.

[Gerald]

Cord across my body.

[Steven Crowder]

Have to just.

[Josh Firestein]

What are you doing? You would hate that soundboard. It's all color coordinated.

[Steven Crowder]

We.

[Gerald]

We were doing, you know, we did the. The video with the green helmets. And I go, wait, who, who are the lawyers? The guys in the yellow helmets. And you're like, well, green. But yeah, those guys, those.

[Josh Firestein]

You know what that was. That's fair, though, cuz that. That green.

[Gerald]

Close to yellow, in fact, because that's actually. I'm not sensitive at all, but I am not able to see some colors very well. So that. That happens. Listen, I apologize, but I make no apologies for anything else that happens on this show. It's mostly Tim's fault and I won't be admonished for that. Let's talk about schools. So you guys remember the disgraced, you know, pollster in Iowa, Anseltzer, who said, I think what Trump like was down 15 points or something like that? Crazy. Yeah, well, Iowa's still pretty much MAGA country. We know that, but that didn't stop the Des Moines school district from letting Ian Roberts, an illegal alien, run the public school system.

[Steven Crowder]

Dr. Ian Roberts is in ICE custody after being arrested on Friday morning after ice age. He fled after they identified themselves at a school vehicle later finding the vehicle ditched and Roberts hiding nearby. Roberts facing immigration and firearm hiding in the bushes. We stand firm with our community.

[Gerald]

He's gay.

[Josh Firestein]

Many of whom are feeling sad, outraged and helpless.

[Gerald]

My lover just stand as we too.

[Josh Firestein]

Are devastated by the news of his detainment.

[Gerald]

Maybe not. I don't know.

[Josh Firestein]

However, this does not stop our important work. Know this the guy, I hired him. We have protocols and processes in place.

[Gerald]

To address this type of situation.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, really? Protocols and processes in place for when you lose one of your illegal employees? What do those look like? Oh, yeah, you just go get some more. You'd be surprised how often they do this. How often this happens. The diversity capital of Iowa. Des Moines.

[Gerald]

Oh, geez. Okay, look, I. Yeah, that's very fair, actually. Does Des Moines have a high Muslim population?

[Josh Firestein]

I don't know.

[Gerald]

Just make it up.

[Josh Firestein]

No, I don't think so.

[Gerald]

You thought of diversity and you thought exploding jihadis running on the track.

[Josh Firestein]

That one actually wasn't my idea. But I thought it was funny because, you know, the joke is, you know, they're just bringing in illegals. Nailed it. We didn't have to. We could have just moved on, Gerald.

[Gerald]

No, no, we cannot just move on when there's jihadis running down a track in Iowa somewhere. Those aren't jihadis.

[Josh Firestein]

Those are just kids.

[Steven Crowder]

How is that they don't make the.

[Josh Firestein]

Time they give, you know? Yeah, that's the coach. The coach is teaching them how to play the sport.

[Gerald]

Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, it's a cowboy. This is some kind of Squid games version of this, Tim, where it's like.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, she's holding a detonator. No, that's a. Yeah, that's a. That's an old. That's an old American game called Hot potato, she vapes.

[Gerald]

That's it. Okay, listen.

[Josh Firestein]

Red rover, red rover, send terrorists over.

[Gerald]

We've done that already. It's a stupid game. Doesn't work out for anybody. All right, Robert's salary at Des Moines public schools was $286,000. That's why he had $286,000 for this guy. And it turns out I think he was actually registered to vote as well. And I know we had some of our friends online kind of point this out from Rasmussen's report, say this doesn't break the dam on the illegals voting thing. I don't think anything ever will in the history of ever. Right. And he's also registered as Adem. And I thought that wasn't supposed to be.

[Steven Crowder]

No, I understand.

[Gerald]

I know.

[Steven Crowder]

Shock.

[Gerald]

No way. I thought that wasn't supposed to be able to. To happen where you couldn't actually register to vote if you were in this country illegally, but, you know, hey, I guess so. But the DHS said that Roberts fled from law enforcement, and he was in possession of a loaded handgun, $3,000 in cash, and also a hunting knife. I'm not sure, you know, like, generally speaking, I'd be like, well, that's in every rednecks truck in America right now. But he can't be here legally, so I guess that's much more of a problem then.

[Josh Firestein]

So I want to see his resume. $286,000. How did he get hired?

[Gerald]

Well, there.

[Josh Firestein]

Hired also.

[Gerald]

I'll get to.

[Josh Firestein]

I didn't know people can make that.

[Gerald]

Much money for being the superintendent of Des Moines.

[Josh Firestein]

Exactly.

[Gerald]

How big is Des Moines, by the way?

[Josh Firestein]

It's pretty big.

[Gerald]

No, no, I know it's big. I just. I mean, is it 10 million people? Probably not even.

[Josh Firestein]

I don't think it's a million.

[Gerald]

I don't even think it's a million either. That's my whole point. $286,000. You're not even managing a population of a million people around you for the.

[Josh Firestein]

No. That's crazy. All those, like, all those nice suits he was wearing.

[Gerald]

He did. Yeah. 213,200. He got more than a dollar per resident of the entire. Wow.

[Josh Firestein]

It's also much smaller than I thought.

[Gerald]

213,000. Nice job. Let's go through a little bit of a history of Senor Roberts here. He entered the United States in 1999 on a stage student visa, and fast forward 25 years. Received a deportation order in May of 2024. That was under the Biden administration. The Biden administration didn't want you guys.

[Josh Firestein]

By the way, that's.

[Steven Crowder]

That.

[Josh Firestein]

That. That's not his first. That's his final.

[Gerald]

Oh, that's the.

[Josh Firestein]

That was his final order. Yeah. It was like, hey, we really. It's like when your parent counts to.

[Gerald]

Three, but then you go. They don't ever actually mean it.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, jump means it. Especially in over a quarter century.

[Gerald]

How long does it take? Okay. By the way, this guy wasn't in hiding. He had several different jobs. I don't know if we've listed.

[Josh Firestein]

No, he was out there with.

[Gerald]

Yeah, we didn't list all the other things that he did, but he was working in New York. I think he was working in Maryland and a couple of other school districts. It's almost like when they came out and said in the Des Moines school district, like, we're looking into this and there's a number of places he stopped before. It's like we have a trail of crimes. Now we have a trail of stupidity. And it's all centered around education. We don't make these rules up. You guys do 25 years and he hides out and has these high profile jobs where he's out front and center. Also, he was trying to engage in speaking tours. He said he was nationally and internationally renowned and sought after. What, for hiding out in a country for 25 years where you're not supposed to be here?

[Josh Firestein]

Well, you know, Tim made a good point. He said, I want to see his resume. I do too. Because I was reading multiple things this morning. Morning. That were like, kind of extraordinary about this guy. Like, he's an Olympian.

[Gerald]

He's not.

[Josh Firestein]

That's not true.

[Gerald]

No, it's not true.

[Josh Firestein]

I also saw that he was a. A member of the military service.

[Gerald]

No.

[Josh Firestein]

Not true.

[Gerald]

No. All that's real. You saw that?

[Josh Firestein]

Yes.

[Gerald]

Are you just punking me? I feel like.

[Josh Firestein]

No.

[Gerald]

What's happening?

[Josh Firestein]

No, no, no. What I saw was that he was an Olympian from Guyana.

[Gerald]

Really?

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah. And that there was like a news story about it a couple years ago. He was on the news where some fifth grader was like, he raised some of the kids as, like a. As like a fun thing for the school district. They're like, you can race an Olympian and let a little fifth grader beat him.

[Gerald]

And just his entire life was just alive.

[Josh Firestein]

And then there was also a gun charge. This is not. This is not a lie. He has a former gun charge from, I want to say, New York that might. I gotta verify that he had a gun charge on possession of a hunting rifle or something like that when he wasn't supposed to be, but didn't tell the school district that it was because he couldn't own a firearm because it was an American citizen.

[Gerald]

Well, they didn't want to wrote that.

[Josh Firestein]

He was an American citizen citizen on his application.

[Gerald]

He's a protected citizen. So they don't want to judge.

[Josh Firestein]

And they were okay with a guy with a prior gun charge to be a principal slash superintendent of their district.

[Gerald]

Absolutely. I also know he did, and this is true. Push policies to not let a previous conviction be a prohibiting factor from getting hired. I wonder why. It was one of his policies as well, by the way. Look, this is not the only person that's doing stuff like this. It's just. This is stupid. Now the left please, please, left. Please make this guy your case. Please make this the aha. See you finally picked up somebody who was here legally or that we love and want to stay here. Look at all the good that he's done. 25 years in this country, but 50,000 people roughly in 2023, overstayed student visas. So it's not like he's the first one. But listen. Hey illegals, look, we're done. It's time to pack it up and get out. Institutions are out of control.

[Josh Firestein]

Hey, illegal, back your backs for home. All in all.

[Gerald]

Hasta la vista, baby, baby. Now that's my kind of border wall right there. Only problem right there on the left hand side is wide open. You just walk right through. So.

[Josh Firestein]

Or maybe turrets kind of help with.

[Gerald]

Yeah, I was gonna say the turret. It's not a gate. It was just open land. Okay. All right. Now you just want them to come up so that they just, you know, the turrets have something fun. They have a choice to make.

[Josh Firestein]

It's called bait. Like when I bring up a fact about a guy from Guyana that you didn't know about and you say it's not true.

[Steven Crowder]

I never know.

[Gerald]

I never tell because you always tell me as though it's absolute fact. And then I just sit here and look stupid.

[Josh Firestein]

I can't wait for mud club when we find out he was an Olympian.

[Gerald]

Oh my gosh. Can you guys pull the story and tell me if he was claimed to be an Olympian for racing five year old olds. Anyway, sometimes there are stories that we cover here that I'm a little surprised by. That is one of them. And the media, by the way, they've dropped it now I think since they found out a lot about this guy.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh yeah, it was as soon as.

[Gerald]

You find the darling of Friday or whenever this happened, I can't remember exactly when they picked him up. But over the weekend sometime I saw this kind of trending and then all of a sudden it's like, wait a minute. Whoops, that's our bad. This guy's been here for a very long time illegally. This is a story though that I never really thought that I would cover about cousin marriage being good according to nhs. I guess. So when you're looking to build a relationship, when you go to match.com or one of those sites right there, they talk about this. There's listed. That's lots of things can really help you out in developing the bonds for a good Strong relationship, strong faith sharing. That, that's fantastic. Mutual interests. Awesome. Sorry about your chargers. Cultural similarities. Right, that's helpful. DNA, apparently DNA and being cousins should be on the list. According to Britain's nhs. How do you play that in British? I don't know, but that works perfectly. But according to a recent article published by Britain's nhs, cousin marriage is actually, you know, good. I'll read you their quote. And this is real. This is not me trying to get back at Josh for lying to me about the Olympian. So research into first cousin marriage describes various potential benefits. Yeah. Name them. Including stronger extended family support systems and economic advantages. Resources, property and inheritance can be consolidated rather than diluted across households. But only for a short period of time because of all the defects that people die quickly. Okay.

[Josh Firestein]

Keep the same name.

[Gerald]

You had some nice mini changes.

[Josh Firestein]

No new cousins.

[Gerald]

Yeah, you're all good to go there.

[Josh Firestein]

But like also extended family support systems, doesn't that have your family support system?

[Gerald]

I mean you could bring in more support systems, but you. It's like a well known structure. It's like a familiar place to go for support.

[Steven Crowder]

Sure.

[Gerald]

You all know each other, we've all been around each other. We're first cousins and now we're getting married. That sounds fantastic.

[Josh Firestein]

I really hate my in laws. Isn't that your family?

[Gerald]

Yes, whatever. The family member, your uncle. Pretty much it's your mom.

[Steven Crowder]

But.

[Gerald]

But, but you bring up a great point. Birth defects, that's a problem. Well, the NHS has a solution for that too though. First cousin marriage is linked to an increased likelihood of a child having a genetic condition or a congenital anomaly. There are many other factors that also increase this chance. Well, hold on, pause. I know there are factors that increase this chance, but aren't you supposed to live in one of the factors and go stay away from that.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Gerald]

They talk about this. So here are some of the other factors that they list that can increase the chance. Parental age, smoking, alcohol use and assisted reproductive technologies. None of which are banned in the uk. They say yes, yes, yes, of course. But they're all very frowned upon when you're pregnant or when you're trying to get pregnant. You understand that, right? You do have the ability to say it's not not banned for you to marry your first cousin. But flipper babies are not fun. So be careful and don't do it.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, marry my cousin. But you've been smoking fags, haven't you? That's not how British people talk anymore. They're speaking Farsi.

[Gerald]

Oh, you gotta put More Pakistani or Indian into it all this direction was.

[Josh Firestein]

Probably written in Arabic.

[Gerald]

I don't think so. You know what will not produce Flipper babies joining Rumble Premium. Rumble Premium is Mug Club. Mug Club is Rumble Premium. $99 annually or $9.99 a month. You get a fantastic girthy mug and access to more show every single day. And we'll be doing this for another hour today, so sign up today. Thank you very much for your support. If you have not supported this, consider it. Join in for $9.99 a month. Check it out, see what it's like, and then make the commitment to your first cousin. There. There is actually a movement to ban cousin marriage in the uk, Right. And you would think, okay, well, that's good, let's ban cousin marriage. But it's actually facing a little bit of backlash from guess who.

[Steven Crowder]

An estimated 35 to 50% of all sub Saharan African populations either prefer or prefer cousin marriages.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, we've been saying that for years.

[Steven Crowder]

In the Middle east and in South Asia. The reason the practice is so common is that ordinary people see family intermarriage overall as something that is very positive.

[Gerald]

They're wrong.

[Steven Crowder]

Something that helps build family bonds.

[Gerald]

Also wrong.

[Steven Crowder]

Helps put families on a more secure financial wrong. Instead of stigmatizing cousin marriages or those inclined to be, a much more positive approach would be to facilitate advanced genetic test screening for prospective married couples, as is the case in all Arab countries in the Persian Gulf.

[Josh Firestein]

Do they.

[Steven Crowder]

No, they don't, do they? And to find a more positive.

[Josh Firestein]

Are you taking the fucking pissing.

[Steven Crowder]

Issues that are caused by first cousin marriages, including the health. Health risk.

[Gerald]

I feel like you just listed all the countries we should never do business with again.

[Josh Firestein]

You tell me a rock.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

Is out there going, you're getting married. Well, we better do a genetic test. Come to the clinic real quick.

[Gerald]

Yeah.

[Josh Firestein]

Make sure to prescribe them plenty of.

[Gerald]

Tylenol for the child. Yes, exactly. Tylenol is highly recommended.

[Josh Firestein]

You ride your.

[Gerald]

You want.

[Josh Firestein]

You and your sister ride your camel into the city and take it.

[Gerald]

Take.

[Josh Firestein]

Take a genetics test real quick before you have your desert wedding.

[Gerald]

I don't think what that is actually happening anywhere. And listen, I. I don't care who I else is doing this.

[Josh Firestein]

She can't be my sister. She's only nine.

[Gerald]

Stop it. Six. At marriage, 27% of Pakistani couples in Bradford, England are first cousins.

[Steven Crowder]

What? Not.

[Gerald]

Not like third cousins twice removed or whatever else you want to call it. First cousins. First cousins.

[Josh Firestein]

Oh, that's all right.

[Gerald]

No, it's not. That's actually worse. The closer you are, the worse it is. Okay, so first cousin. 40% of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis in the UK believe first cousin marriage should be legal. That's the group. When you do a poll like that, you get license and information and you deport them.

[Steven Crowder]

Notice how all the rest of them are very, very small numbers.

[Gerald]

It's like, no.

[Josh Firestein]

The other 60% of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis think it should be mandatory.

[Gerald]

Oh, well, that's true. But compare that to only 9% of all other Britons. Yeah, and just to be clear, that's.

[Josh Firestein]

Still a high number, by the way.

[Gerald]

Well, 9% is. Yeah, that's true. But maybe at this point they're doing it for like a self preservation thing. I don't running out of options because of all the people they're importing, like we've talked about. But the health challenges that we mentioned, they're very, very severe. And we're kind of making light of it because we're trying to make a point here, because I thought everybody was on this train, especially developed countries. But despite only accounting for 4% of total births, Pakistani Britons accounted for 30% of all of the conditions caused by inbreeding. All of them autosomal recessive disorders. That's insane. 4% of the births, 30% of the problems. And instead of going, hey, let's just stop doing that. They're like, hey, we're going to make like an honor system where you guys go get testing, we're gonna import more of and bring more.

[Josh Firestein]

That's the crazy thing to me is that it's. They're acting like there wasn't, you know, a petri dish to look at.

[Gerald]

Yes.

[Josh Firestein]

Like Pakistan didn't exist.

[Gerald]

Yes.

[Josh Firestein]

It's like they could inbred countries in the world where they're not churning out doctors.

[Gerald]

Also, West Virginia figured this out.

[Josh Firestein]

They're future school superintendents.

[Gerald]

John, that's not true. He was from Africa.

[Josh Firestein]

And I was wrong. They actually are churning out lots of doctors.

[Gerald]

Well, not the ones you want to see you for sure. But here's a fun fact a lot of you may say. Well, hey, some of this stuff is still legal in the United States. Yes, to our great shame. There are 17 states that are still allowing first cousin marriage, including California, New York and Vermont. But it is banned in Arkansas, Mississippi and West Virginia. The founder of the Feast on what not to do when Banging Cousins. Yeah, they said this produces a problem. Have you seen our mountaineers? Not cool people, I'm telling you.

[Josh Firestein]

Actually Pretty cool people.

[Gerald]

They're cool people, but when this genetic thing happens, you know, they end up looking like they just stepped out of the. And that's a problem.

[Josh Firestein]

They're cool. They yip and they.

[Gerald]

I'm sorry, they do what?

[Josh Firestein]

They yip and.

[Gerald]

No.

[Steven Crowder]

But.

[Gerald]

And. Oh, and you said they get banned, and I was just hoping there was something else redeeming about this story.

[Josh Firestein]

I was gonna.

[Gerald]

There's not.

[Josh Firestein]

I was gonna be a offensive.

[Gerald]

Alabama, you can still marry your cousin as well. Texas, you cannot. Some places are better than others.

[Steven Crowder]

Ridiculous.

[Gerald]

Not sure which way that was. Billy could go both ways on this. I'm not sure which side of the coin he's on here. No offense, Billy. You had six fans follow you into a bathroom, though, so sometimes maybe your options are picking up. That's fine.

[Steven Crowder]

Cousins.

[Gerald]

Yeah, five were cousins.

[Josh Firestein]

They were. Well, they were guys that followed them into the bathroom.

[Gerald]

That. That.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

You didn't know that? Cousins, too. You didn't know that about. I'm just kidding. Billy's totally straight as an arrow. Moving on. I don't want. Listen, I don't want to cast dispersions. Billy, it's fine if you're. If you're not just. Josh is just being a normal person. Oh, yeah. Billy, in all of the. I forgot. Billy did put the sign up. Thank you. You're welcome. You didn't even turn your own mic on. You're welcome.

[Josh Firestein]

Noodles takes it.

[Gerald]

All right. Okay, so look, we're going to probably cover most of this story before we go to our Rumble Premium segment today, but we'll cover all of it and get it out for you guys, because we think it's a really, really big story right now, and it's one that actually made me do something that I typically don't, which is start diving into conspiracy theories a little bit, going like, hold on, Wait a minute. This guy said something. And I try not to do that. And, no, I'm not pulling Candace Owens. I'm not. I won't. I won't do that. But there are bees in this story at some point, I think. So a new poll is actually showing that Keir Starmer is Britain's least popular prime minister ever. His net approval is negative 66. That means he's 66 points underwater. Unfavorable, not favorable. That is really impressive, by the way. Pull that graph back up. They really hate their politicians there. The gap is gigantic on so many of them especially. Look, since 2019, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 of the prime ministers that they have had have been negative 44 or more.

[Josh Firestein]

This is how you get a king back.

[Gerald]

Well, they already have the king.

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, but not back in power.

[Gerald]

I mean, that's been a long time. I don't know what you're talking about. The Prime Minister, never mind beloved by all of the people. But this weekend, I know we're talking a whole lot about Britain today, but this weekend in a bid to really improve his ratings and let me just kind of set you up. One of the biggest knocks on Starmer right now is that he's been weak on immigration. It's the illegal immigrants that are coming over. It's a lot of the boats that are coming over. It's the migrants that are there illegally in hotels being taken care of. It's pissing a lot of people off. It's covering up a lot of the rape crimes and all the other stuff, the knife crimes that are going on and really basically pushing traditional Britainers out of the equation by just importing more and more people. So to help himself out a little bit, he announced digital IDs would be mandatory for all UK adults.

[Steven Crowder]

We start here in the UK on an issue that's divided the country over the last few decades. Every adult will need a new government issued digital ID to prove they live and can work here. While under plans to be announced by the Prime Minister on Friday, the move is part of efforts to crack down on illegal working. Most European countries already require their citizens to hold ID cards.

[Gerald]

So a little bit of that sounds reasonable. You're like, oh, like an ID card, like a driver's license or something like that as an identification. Nope, it's not quite what you think. And all of this is being put into place because of Starmer's inability to get illegal immigration under control. And so he's saying, hey, hey, hey, look, we'll remove one of the draws for people coming here by having these new digital IDs and that'll help us crack down on illegal immigration working.

[Steven Crowder]

For too many years, it's been too easy for people to come here, slip into the shadow economy and remain here illegally because frankly, we've been squeamish. I am announcing this government will make a new free of charge digital ID mandatory for the right to work by the end of this Parliament. That's the. You will not be able to work in the United Kingdom if you do not have digital id. It's as simple as that. Because decent, pragmatic, fair minded people, they want us to tackle the issues that they see around them.

[Gerald]

Okay, so let Me get this straight here. Countries throughout all of human history have had borders to some degree and have been able to defend said borders from people who want to come into said country illegally without digital anything. They had swords and they defended it. You're telling me that the only way that you can make sure that you defend the UK and its ability to keep people out from entering the country illegally is to have a digital id? Okay, okay. Let me just say that I took you at your worst, which I don't. You're a politician. You're obviously getting creamed right now, and this is one of the biggest issues that you're losing on. But you're telling me that what you're going to do is going to open the door for incredible government overreach. You're saying you have to have this digital ID to even have a job in the uk? Do you remember during COVID in the United States, we had vaccine passports. Well, I believe over there they had no jab, no job program. This was the big campaign. If you don't get the jab, you can't have a job. It's not like the United States was the only country doing stupid stuff like that during COVID In places like New York, they were doing it as well. And According to Gov UK, the IDs will be used for everything from renting, receiving benefits, voting, and even potentially banking. How long until those uses become mandatory? Just for everybody who's out there right now going like, there's probably multiple groups, but let's just break it down into two groups. One group of people, and I don't know how some sizable it is is going. Yep, I knew that they were going to do something like this. This makes perfect sense. And the other group is like, hold on, isn't it like reasonable for the government to have some control? Listen, here's why we don't go down this road. Not even 1 inch. September 1, Vietnam froze 86 million bank accounts that failed to comply with the new biometric rule. 86 million accounts were frozen because they failed to comply with new biometric rules. And listen, I'm a little shocked by these numbers, but Britain's, you would think would come out and just completely be against this, right? You would think it'd be as underwater as Keir Starmer's approval rating. Well, they're importing a lot of people that are just like, whatever, go along with it. They have no idea, no concept of what freedom really is. In the Latest, I believe YouGov poll, 42% of Britons support this digital ID, 45% opposed and 14% are unsure, which is scary as well. You need to have an opinion on this. There's a very good reason for you to be a little bit wary about what's going on, and Larry Ellison is one of those reasons. Now, this is where I start to get a little like, conspiracy theory laden. Okay? And I'll get to that at the end here. But everybody knows Larry Ellison is the Oracle founder, and he's been a big, big, big supporter of the ID push. But the ID push actually first happen under Tony Blair, and I'll make those connections for you really quickly. Tony Blair's institute, the TBI, has lobbied the labor government for digital ID. And since 2021, Larry Ellison has funded or pledged at least $350 million to TBI. Former Blair advisor Peter Kyle is Keir Starmer's Secretary of State for Business and Trade. And Ellison now has that direct line that he's always wanted to the UK government and Oracle and Ellison Institute of Technology they employ. I'm sorry, the employees have met with the labor government 29 times over the past nine months. And just in case that you don't really know who Larry Ellison is or kind of what his politics are, just listen to what he has to say about surveillance.

[Steven Crowder]

Your.

[Gerald]

Your body cams will be transmitting that the police will be on their best.

[Steven Crowder]

Behavior because we record.

[Gerald]

We constantly record.