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Steven Crowder (0:00)
Hey, welcome. Not gonna do a rundown or talk about the lineup today because we do have an update that's pretty significant. This Friday, 7:00pm Eastern. I, as I've told you, scheduled to debate Professor Jonathan Zimmerman, professor of history for 20 something odd years, author of multiple books. He was on the show last week and that was going to be at the Annenberg center for the Performing arts in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania there at. Well, I was about to say UPenn. Yes, it is UPenn. I was about to say Pennsylvania State. Gerald, is UPenn. Yeah, getting turned around because there've been some updates here. So that's what I told you. You know, this has been 10 years in the making. This has been 10 schools unofficially called out with $10,000. Not up for grabs, just a gift. Because change my mind was always designed to highlight the failures of professors. We finally found a willing participant after people came forward with absurd terms like at Harvard and other schools. We walked you through that last week discussion was going to be about free speech, where it stands and who is actively trying to kill it. Obviously, at the risk of showing my cards here, I think that if you want to preserve freedom of speech, you have to fight the institutionalized left. Because part of my opening statements, which were not, they weren't fully formed, is that wherever the left achieves power, free speech dies. Wherever freedom of speech thrives, the left dies. And so that's why they try to control the playing field. They try to control the narrative. We saw that with the Department of Misinformation. We've seen that on big tech platforms, whether it's Google, YouTube, Facebook, Meta, TikTok, Twitter, Twitter before it became X, take your pick. And then we just ran into some hiccups that proved my point. So you can still go to lytorthcrowder.com tickets. I'm not changing my approach, but those at UPenn seemingly are. March 10th, to give you an idea, I want to go back in time, but let me just kind of give you, you the lead. They've now told us that they will revoke our ability to live stream the event. So we can do it. We can put up a $10,000. We can put up the many, many tens of thousands of dollars to make this event happen, paying for security costs, venue fees, et cetera. We just can't live stream it. So I'm telling you right now, and this is the first. I have not discussed anything with the school myself. This has been my team, people who are in charge of events. We plan to go to Upennial Friday, April 10 and livestream. That is what we will do. That is what the louder with Crowder team here is going to do. It comes as a shock to no one that the largest daily livestream out there with a right leaning perspective would be live streaming. A debate for which we are fronting tens of thousands of dollars. The reasoning as to why we can't livestream, well, your guess is as good as mine. But it seems like quite a few hurdles being put up. So we'll be asking all of you to apply some pressure here because these are not you let me know. I don't think these are big asks. We'll show up, we'll pay your turf, your topic, your terms. Great, what's the problem? And for people saying, well, hold on, there's some confusion or no, I'll give you some receipts here. March 10, the Annenberg center director of events, who's been helpful by the way, as I understand it, this person has to do the work of the administration. Ms. Jamison emailed our team a cost estimate that clearly accounted for live streaming costs fronted by us. They were very adamant about this. Here it is. Bring up the overlay video live stream slash projection company provides their own livestream recording equipment. So the negotiation was going to be over specifics like the costs for this, how we set up. But it was very clearly confirmation that we were going to be live streaming. We've always maintained that. And in case people are wondering if this wasn't clear, well, this was actually the day after a zoom call took place with Lane the brain here and the team over there where live streaming was discussed. Acknowledged. And of course, here you go. Ideally, if the tech allows for it streamed live, that way nobody can be accused of editing out of context. Or we're just clipping Zimmerman to look stupid. Or he's clipping Steven to look like an idiot. That's not the goal of this. So we want this up in full, in real time so people know that they're getting the conversation that they signed up for. And again after the fact. This will live in perpetuity on our sites. But Mr. Zimmerman is also allowed to upload them to his own personal sites as well. We. He will be provided with the full raw file. So you. You've got your own streaming company, Penn Live Art. I can. Yeah, that's just in general. I'll get you the. I'll get you it. The Internet is. Is private, so. But I can get you a private IP address for them. Great logistics. Follow up. You guys cover the Costs. Great. We've announced this to you. Many hundreds of you have already reserved your tickets. Here's where I think the wrinkles came in and kind of proves the basis of my opening statements. There was a hit piece at the Daily Pennsylvania March 23rd. Multiple PLA staff and PLA Gerald is Penn Live Arts staff members raised concerns about working the event in interviews with the DP and were granted anonymity due to fear of retribution. One staffer told the DP that they worried that the debate could perpetuate, quote, hate, bigotry and ignorance into the world and into University of Pennsylvania students. Keep in mind, this is the school that sent, I believe, 16 girls who came forward when they discussed PA penis in their locker room, making them uncomfortable. They were sent to the, I believe, LGBTQ center for counseling, and as I understand it, no investigation was run. We wouldn't want to put out any fear or hate or bigotry. So that piece went out March 23, I believe, the same day that the venue then messaged us the following. The university is aware that this will be recorded. They typically ask that events not be livestreamed, but played at a later time or date. That's exactly what we didn't want to do. I think anyone who's been here for a long time and has followed changed my mind going back a decade. I mean, you know that the reason for this was because people will sometimes say, well, change my mind. That's tougher to live stream because we're on location and we don't really know. You've never heard anyone complain about being taken out of context. So, okay, we'll do this live on the home turf of whoever agrees to do it with their terms. We'll front the costs, and then we'll put up $10,000 to do it. Nothing up our sleeves. People say, why don't you go and have these conversations with someone qualified? We went to the most qualified person we could find who was willing to take part at the most qualified institution in as even of a playing field as a conservative could possibly ask for. Well, then finally, April 3rd, going into Easter weekend, we received this letter. Thank you so much for your patience. While the university reviewed the language in our facility use agreement, kindly see the updated version. Based on the revised language, we will not be able to permit the sale of merchandise or live streaming this event. Now, I don't know why, and I know that some of you will say, well, why don't you just go and then upload it later in the week? If you guys look at the terms that were laid out from Harvard professors and the right to retroactively remove consent. I've been down this road with schools in the past. If you capitulate now, how much you want to bet if this doesn't go very well, it's going to be made difficult to upload in its entirety without edits because there are vested interests in making sure that the school or the perspective, which of course over which there is no doubt is distinctly left, probably wouldn't be so flattering. It's going to be difficult. So we are not going to acquiesce or capitulate here now and say, well, we'll come out there and we'll work it out. Because there's something else too. I don't know if you guys know this, but security is kind of a big deal. It's always been a big deal for us and especially post Charlie Kirk, and especially when you see these kinds of articles going out the Daily Pennsylvanian. We're okay fronting the cost for security. We're many, many tens of thousands of dollars in to try and make this event happen. By the way, your support, of course, joining up Mud Club, Rumble Premium, that's what allows all of this to happen. We don't have any big nonprofits. We don't have any big donors. We're funded by viewers like you. Well, the security issue is another one that would seem as though this should be straightforward. I don't have an answer as to why they're changing it around. I just know that they are. So our team did a full security walkthrough on April 1. The venue would not allow us to complete many of our standard security protocols. We have kind of some standards that we go through to make sure things are secure. They wouldn't allow us to do that. They are demanding that we use their security now. We would bring our security anyway. But we still have not received a cost estimate the week of. We've asked for it. We've not received it. So if you go out to a school where the only thing you're asking to do is what you do every day, which is live stream a fully unedited debate, which, by the way, I should lose. PhD, multiple time author, professor for decades, college dropout who's out punted his coverage should be pretty simple to do. The only request we've made is that we're able to do what we do every day, live unedited, so that people can see these conversations as transparently as possible. You know, the kinds of conversations that Never take place on campus. You have professors who are intimidated into silence. My opponent, Professor Zimmerman, talked about this as it related to Dei that he was surprised that 40% of professors didn't support race or gender based admissions or hiring and he was shocked that they didn't speak out at all. Well, if that's taking place, how do you think the students feel if this is the environment, how do you think students on campus feel who can't front tens of thousands of dollars and haven't built up the infrastructure for security? We start to get the picture as to why intellectual diversity and freedom of speech does not exist on campus. An agreement, a call, a confirmation, a big old Ed McMahon check and we'll cover all the costs. Name the time and place, we'll make that walk. Oh, then it changed. And if the place is going to be secure, that's a will they, won't they? We don't know. Maybe so. And the one thing that we do here and the whole purpose of this will not be permitted. So if we show up, we can't live stream and we don't have an estimate for security. What do you think happens if we want to upload it the following week, Monday or Tuesday? Oh, then that security estimate could come in, couldn't it? Could be half a million dollars, could be more. Maybe these people are acting in good faith and maybe there's a miscommunication going on and maybe obviously they believe in freedom of speech and they're happy to take the check and we can simply have a productive conversation and debate. April 10, 7pm you can get your tickets@louderworthcryder.com tickets@upenn. Maybe that's all it is. And we're hoping that because we're still going to the campus to stream live. You, you, Penn, if you are watching or listening, there is no world in which we go. We don't stream this live, period, with no edits, with no suggestions afterward. That's what we were paying for. That's what you, the viewer, was planning on. It's a long time coming and that's exactly what we plan to do. If there can be any justification, rationalization, which we have not received as to why this shouldn't take place, as to why these new changing terms are required, then you can let us know and the public know. But this has been going on for too long. Dragging your feet for too long. This is not complicated, it's straightforward. That's what we've told people and you have told students we are going to do and they have reserved their tickets. Don't try and change the game just because it may not come across that well. Final thing that I would tell you is if I had to guess, I'd be willing to bet some people aren't happy about this event. And I'd be willing to bet there'd probably be some disruptive protesters which to the best of my understanding, their security would not remove as per their protocol. How much you want to bet they come from the left? How much you want to bet that doesn't reflect well in the school? How much you want to bet that people who show up to hear an actual productive discussion as has taken place at every change my mind going back a decade, those on the right will be civil, respectful, rational, and the opposition won't. And those optics aren't great for an esteemed institution like UPenn. So I hope we've been clear. Tickets are still available online. Not many. We'll be going, we'll be bringing the check. We'll be fronting the costs. Give us the security estimate so we can use whoever you want there along with our security, who ensure that I don't get shot. And we'll be there and we'll live stream this debate. UPenn April 10, 7:00pm Right, UPenn, are we good? We're good, right? You've been failed as students. You've been failed. It's time to go straight to the top to the people who failed you. Hey YouTube, what you're about to watch is a new segment we call Change My Mind. When we started Change My Mind, the the more I went on campus, the more I saw the failures of the institutions. I think you're somewhat parroting from what you've learned from your professors, data from CNN and Twitter and professors is wrong. I want to be really clear about something. This was never designed to mock, denigrate or dunk on students who don't know any better. It was always designed to highlight the failures of the institutions. Would you be willing to find a professor, any professor, here on campus and help organize some kind of a debate or conversation? Any professor you pick. We're actually going to be starting formal debates with profess professors. We can have a civil dialogue and maybe get to the root cause as to why you've been failed as students. He has made this possible. The only one, Professor Jonathan Zimmerman. I'm a liberal Democrat and I knew that you were not. That's true. And that's precisely why we should talk to each other, because that's how I Think people learn. I really do appreciate you accepting. And by the way, screw you. Yes, absolutely. Screw you. And you're a piece of. April 10, 7pm at the Annenberg center for the Performing arts. Louder. With crowder.com tickets. Change my mind. It's the next chapter. Hey, welcome, Dan. Viewers. Thanks for rating. Gerald, how the hell are you? I'm good.