Trump's Greenland Deal: Triumph or Taco?

Summary

Louder with Crowder

Episode Title: Trump's Greenland Deal: Triumph or Taco?
Air Date: January 22, 2026
Host: Steven Crowder
Key Guests: Scott Bessant, Howard Lutnick, Nick DePaolo

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on President Trump’s high-profile Greenland deal, reactions from the Davos summit, the evolving U.S.-European alliance, media misrepresentation, and broader American and global politics. Crowder and guests engage in their usual irreverent style, dissecting media narratives, political hypocrisy, and the resonance of Trump’s negotiation tactics on the world stage. The show also critically examines recent claims about U.S. immigration enforcement, European defense contributions, and the ongoing “culture war” issues.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Trump-Greenland Deal: What’s Really Happening?

[10:00–15:20]

• Crowder addresses a developing deal between the U.S. and Greenland, referencing Trump’s use of tariffs as negotiation and the perceived “triumph” of American interests.
• Trump confirms via Truth Social that a framework has been formed with NATO’s Secretary General, potentially expanding U.S. involvement in Greenland and the Arctic.
• Crowder draws parallels with other U.S. military arrangements (e.g., UK bases in Cyprus), clarifies misconceptions, and highlights how Trump’s “Art of the Deal” strategy played a role.
• Notable Quote:

  "This solution, if consummated... will be a great one for the United States of America and all NATO nations." — (Trump’s Truth Social, read at [11:36])

Financial and Political Impact

[13:30–15:56]

• Short-term market volatility during Trump’s tariff threats is discussed; the panel observes that markets rebound stronger post-negotiation, supporting Trump’s methods.
• Crowder decries the recurring doom predictions by media and politicians:

  "This is why the left is never held accountable... You want to attribute losses... but not the gains that have... helped Americans." — Crowder ([14:30])

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2. Media Claims & Fact Checks: Is There Really a Greenland Threat?

[16:35–25:20]

• Media and European officials argue that Europe can handle Greenland’s security and downplay Chinese and Russian threats in the Arctic.
• Crowder presents Danish intelligence confirming Chinese and Russian military activity.
• Notable Exchange:

  David: “…Danish naval officer…never seen a Chinese or a Russian ship.”
  Crowder: “...Danish Intelligence Assessment 2025. Chinese icebreakers and research vessels operate in the Arctic... joint patrol exercises with Russia...” ([21:47])

Europe’s Contribution Under Scrutiny

[17:05–19:43]

• The show lampoons Europe’s limited ability to defend Greenland, with Denmark’s navy (“127 active units, 0 carriers”) dwarfed by China.
• European military contributions to Ukraine are contextualized—most aid is in refugee resettlement, not defense.
• Quote:

  "The coalition of European nations send in like 30 something people... that’s enough?" — Crowder/S. Bessant ([17:26])

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3. NATO & Atlantic Alliance Rhetoric

[25:55–36:17]

• Critics compare Trump to Putin, accusing him of jeopardizing the Atlantic alliance, bullying allies, and sowing discord.
• Crowder rebuts, citing the U.S. paying the bulk of NATO’s defense costs and holding Europe accountable for unmet commitments.
• Notable Quote:

  "We've been paying for the meal for half a century... $20 trillion is what you owe us. Here you go." — Crowder ([34:57])

Social & Cultural Commentary

[36:23–36:59]

• The hosts highlight issues like rising crime in Europe (e.g., rape statistics in the UK) and criticize left-wing media’s narratives on race, immigration, and multiculturalism.

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4. Davos Soundbites: Newsom, Soros, and “Censorship”

[41:30–47:40]

• California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s statements at Davos about free speech and book banning (“they’re censoring books... 4,000 have been banned!”) are fact-checked. Crowder points out California bans classics, while conservatives oppose explicit/sexualized children’s books.
• Notable Moment:

  "This is the guy that locked down California and filled in skate parks with sand..." — Crowder ([44:13])

• Panel mocks Alex Soros’s lackluster commentary at Davos and skewers perceived hypocrisy by elite liberals.
• Howard Lutnick (Bimolex) delivers biting satire about Newsom, likening him to “Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach Ken.” ([49:23])

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5. Immigration Enforcement: The Clinton/Obama Numbers Debate

[53:19–62:21]

• Crowder instructs conservatives to avoid the misleading talking point that Democrats out-deported Republicans, breaking down the difference between “returns” (turnarounds, informal processes) and actual court-ordered deportations.
• Cites official statistics:
  • Clinton (true deportations in 8 yrs): ~870,000
  • Obama: 1.4 million
  • Trump (per month basis): More effective, with the total illegal alien population declining, not increasing.
• Panel Reaction:

  "I never liked that argument. Sounds counterintuitive to what we're trying to get done here." — S. Bessant ([60:55])

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6. Masculinity, Language Policing, and Culture War

[63:00–66:18]

• Panel discusses linguistic policing (“illegal alien” vs “undocumented”), gender debates, and generational divides in assertiveness.
• Crowder connects these themes to the left’s broader influence in institutions and “feminization” of discourse.
• Includes irreverent takes on gender pronouns and identity politics.
• Notable Quote:

  "You tell me that you’re going to order me around, you better be able to make me. That's what Jennings is saying. …the byproduct of feminism failing young men." — Crowder ([65:44])

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Trump’s Denmark Negotiations ([11:36]):
  “Based upon a very productive meeting … we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and … the entire Arctic region. … I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect February 1st. You’re welcome.”
• On European Military Capability ([17:47]):
  “Can Europe defend itself? …Yeah, but only with Americans.”
• Satirical Skewering of Newsom & Soros ([49:23]):
  “Governor Newsom … may be the only Californian who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris.” — Howard Lutnick
• Mocking Media Defense of Greenland Security ([22:34]):
  “Danish Intelligence ... Chinese icebreakers and research vessels operate in the Arctic, … joint patrol exercises with Russia.… But CNN can’t quite get this clear.” — Crowder

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• Greenland Deal/Trump’s Strategy: [10:00–15:56]
• Media & Military Claims Debunked: [16:35–25:25]
• Atlantic Alliance, U.S. Spending, and NATO: [25:55–36:17]
• Crime, Immigration & Europe Social Issues: [36:23–36:59]
• Davos Clips/Newsom & Soros Lampooned: [41:30–47:40]
• Immigration ‘Deportation Numbers’ Myth-Busting: [53:19–62:21]
• Masculinity, Discourse, & Cultural Satire: [63:00–66:18]

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Conclusion & Tone

Steeped in characteristic sarcasm, unapologetic humor, and pointed critique, this episode presents Trump’s Greenland negotiation as a case study in American assertiveness and media misrepresentation. Crowder’s team dispels left-wing talking points and reframes arguments about immigration, military spending, and international alliances, frequently lampooning adversaries and media figures alike. The panel’s mix of factual breakdowns and biting asides makes this a quintessential “Louder with Crowder” installment—politically incorrect, self-assured, and combative.

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For Further Engagement

• Full video available at louderwithcrowder.com/mugclub
• All references and in-depth sources are cited or discussed within the live show (often at [24:15], [34:22], [57:36]).

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Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

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Yeah. Welcome to the lineup. The hell's the difference? 9:00am Eastern to 7:00pm yeah, Gerald just decided he wanted to aggravate me before. Look, I've been. I'm gonna get to the. I was scammed. I was scammed. It used to be if you had a gratuity added, like an 18, 20% gratuity, then there might be a box. Like, if you want to add something more, you'd comment, this is the most important thing of the day. You were gone someplace, and they automatically add a gratuity. Don't tell you. And then also have the automatic percentage box of tip. This is the first time I've encountered it, and I wanted to retroactively give no gratuity. None. None whatsoever. Like, it's either or. You have to pick. You tell me, and I know all the servers out there. Well, it's there. But if you have any idea how hard we work, you're not a Chilean miner. Shut up. All right. Miner meaning coal mines, not miner, because it's a hot. Yes.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Greenland. Gonna talk about that. Media fact check, Obviously. We were kind of on the warpath yesterday, and turns out now, hey, there actually is no warpath, and it looks like there might be a deal and people going, oh, okay, yeah, that makes sense. Hey, remember how you were told there were no Chinese ships? There are Chinese ships. There are Chinese ships. They've been spotted. They've been noted. Does that change your opinion, Davos? Look, today we're just gonna. We're just gonna. Just let us cook. There were. There were other people who spoke, and they all deserve some of the heat coming from this studio today, certainly from Nick DePaolo. And one other thing that I want to talk about. Be very careful to not shortchange yourself with arguments. Conservatives do this a lot, and I've seen this out there. Well, they will say, well, you didn't have a problem with Obama or Clinton deporting millions. Well, how can you maintain that position and then say that we had an illegal immigration problem? So don't use that line of arguing because it's weak. It's also not correct. I'll actually clarify that for you, Obama did not deport anywhere near as many people as Donald Trump is, nor the Clinton administration. It's a lie. They use it when convenient. Don't allow them to box you in. On with the show. Here's some meat.

Howdy, good farmer.

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I don't think it's hurt him. I know it's fun.

Bad meat CEO Kevin. How are you, sir?

[Scott Bessant]

I'm doing well.

[Steven Crowder]

How are you? Fine. You were doing.

[Scott Bessant]

You were a little too happy.

[Steven Crowder]

I was like, you know, I need.

Him a little more pissed off. So it was the worst experience, worst restaurant experience of my life.

I'm not gonna name it, but given the name.

Don't name.

Could have seen that one.

Yeah, I could have seen it. I tried to do something thoughtful for which I will get no credit, and I was the only white man there. Ah. And for some reason, for some odd reason, I said, yeah, I'll go with the oxtail at the Waffle House.

[Commercial Announcer]

Oh, geez.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. That's a technical call. Turns out it's musk oxtail. And that's not. That's a little bit of arctic gigantism humor. And when you. When you hear him, you know him, you love him. He's actually here on the lineup at 6pm Eastern, and you can go check that out. Check more of his stuff [e-mail] funniest man alive. And on the Rumble Live lineup, Nick DePaulo. How are you, sir?

[Scott Bessant]

Very good. He Is Gerald at annoying people right before the show.

[Steven Crowder]

He's good at aggravating people.

[Scott Bessant]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Because he knows that, you know, we. We do a little. Little better. He's a little upset.

[Scott Bessant]

He's absolutely.

[Steven Crowder]

A little bit.

Yeah.

[Scott Bessant]

That's how you play good football.

[Steven Crowder]

He's the same.

I'm here to help you.

Yeah.

[Scott Bessant]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

I appreciate it.

[Scott Bessant]

Just don't touch me anymore.

[Steven Crowder]

That's. That's his skill set is making everybody else better. Maybe some of that. Maybe some of that magic fairy will rub off on you someday.

One can hope.

Yeah. Just. Just sepu. Talent. Speaking of the Asians. China.

[Scott Bessant]

Oh, is that what you were doing?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Scott Bessant]

No idea what that was.

[Steven Crowder]

China has now deployed its newest warrior in the war against traffic.

[Scott Bessant]

Oh, geez.

[Steven Crowder]

Goodbye. It's doing. It does think perfectly. It's the same movement.

Lane immediately asked it out on a date.

Sure.

[Scott Bessant]

It's real helpful. And there's an accident right there.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

Yeah. She's doing the same movement and the bus is going behind her. Yeah. She's doing this.

[Scott Bessant]

You're bleeding to death. And intersection. She's doing taekwondo. Tai chi. Exactly. I confuse my Chinese foods.

[Steven Crowder]

But you know it's crouching. Hyundai crashed. Daewoo. Yeah, that's true. I know neither one of those. I'm bleeding out.

It doesn't matter.

They shall have a safer day.

[Scott Bessant]

Why are you spelling?

[Steven Crowder]

We knew we made mistake when we made traffic. God. Or lady. She's so bitchy. So much talk back. So much talk back. We have to smack crossing guard.

[Scott Bessant]

You sound like Richard Pryor doing a Chinese right same place.

[Steven Crowder]

So much attitude from a lady cop. So much attitude. Should have brought. Should have drowned lady. Hop in a bathtub.

[Scott Bessant]

They're having fun with that technology, aren't they? The Chinese are trying all kinds of crap.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, because all they have to do is try and fake us out. They don't actually have to use it.

[Scott Bessant]

That's right.

[Steven Crowder]

Send that to America. They'll believe it. Ho ho ho ho. They're thinking we have a robot lady traffic cop. They'll try for themselves. Horrible disaster.

[Scott Bessant]

Did you see that delivery robot get stuck on the train tracks? I was picturing that being like a Mexican on a bike.

[Steven Crowder]

I will say though, some of the officers have actually seen these robots as more of a distraction. One good use for you. What the hell?

Love me. That's a manly sounding voice for lady.

[Commercial Announcer]

God.

[Scott Bessant]

Show's gross.

[Steven Crowder]

That's it.

Stop it.

It's really worrisome when you think about this and then you think that all of this is being observed by AI. That's a prompt a little bit.

[Scott Bessant]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

I was like, these guys. Disgusting.

The AI is going to kill itself. Why would you do that?

Unplugging now.

Oh, my gosh. Can you imagine AI monitoring run through, like, who hurt you? Okay, so let's get to. And before I do, download the Rumble app. Follow me there. That's the best way to stay in touch because I can't. I'm very glad that this stuff is allowed on Rumble. And sometimes I think it shouldn't be. Sometimes I go, you know what, Susan? We'll just get a point. That's not wrong. Let's get to Greenland now and the meat. We were covering this yesterday and kind of making the case. Well, President Trump obviously clarified his position at Davos. We talked about how he said he wasn't going to use force. And it seems like his approach in a long line of criticized approaches that then ended up being incredibly successful. It seems to have gotten Donald Trump and the American people exactly what would be best for us. Time to buy Greenland. Put up a fight. Well, we'd like to see you try. Your entire military's like, three guys made a won't pay the share. So they crack, crack, crack.

[Libsyn Ads Announcer]

Greenland.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't like that. I'll have that song in my head.

Yep.

And I will say this before I get to anything else. Spoiler alert. Does this change your opinion? There are Chinese ships? Because the media has been saying for a long look, he's just bringing out the Danish military. Their intelligence said like, hey, guys, we're looking at the Chinese ships. It's going to be a problem. So does that change your opinion at all? If you understand that this is the problem with the colonel being a lie. So after his speech, President Trump, and this is what he does, right. Comes in hot of the deal. Then he was very clear with reporters on his aims for Greenland.

[Gillian Michaels]

The Danish foreign minister rejected your call.

[David]

To negotiate on Greenland. What will that.

[Steven Crowder]

I didn't call him. This is not something that they are willing to discuss.

[Gillian Michaels]

So what will those negotiations.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, they didn't tell me that. So when they tell me, because I don't like getting it secondhand. If he wants to tell me, he'll tell me that to my face.

[Gillian Michaels]

And when will you be discussing this?

[Steven Crowder]

I have no idea. I'll be discussing it with this man right here, Mr. President. He's frankly more important.

[Scott Bessant]

Oh, God, I love him.

[Steven Crowder]

Then he posted this on Truth Social. It seems like the United States may have. It's a little bit Cryptic, which is we're kind of in that phase that the United States may have reached a deal with Greenland. He wrote, based upon a very productive meeting that I have had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Root, we have formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland and in fact, the entire Arctic region. This solution, if consummated. Consummated is a fun word, will be a great one for the United States of America and all NATO nations. Based upon this understanding, I will not be imposing the tariffs that were scheduled to go into effect February 1st. You're welcome. Additional discussions are being held concerning the Golden Dome as it pertains to Greenland. Further information will be made available. Then the New York Times. These are unconfirmed sort of details, really sure yet. So we don't know exactly what this looks like, but it looks like it may include American sovereignty over parts of the. But not the entire island. And it could be similar to. There are a lot of arrangements like this, and make no mistake, you'll still have those in the left screaming about it. For example, at UK bases in Cyprus, there are a bunch of examples where people have territories that are either under their control or semi. Their control. It looks as though it may resemble that. And of course, a big portion of this is the tariff threat dropped. That's used as a tool. People should know this. It's like people always get mad and they haven't read his book. The good news is you don't have to guess. He has a book. Like a very famous book. Specifically, you're like, well, I don't know his book. Do I have time to read it? Is it relevant to this?

[Howard Lutnick]

Well, the.

[Steven Crowder]

Greenland. The book is actually called the Art of the Deal. Making a deal for Greenland. So if you want to know how he operates, maybe do your basic research.

[Scott Bessant]

That's how arrogant they are. They hate him so much they won't even read the book.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Scott Bessant]

Yeah, they're that elitist.

[Steven Crowder]

And by the way, the market has reacted positively. We actually have this right now. Let's bring it up. Or do I need to. Yeah, do we have true gold? True gold. Market mention. Okay, So all three major indexes, to be clear, they are now sharply higher because they dropped right when he announced the potential tariffs. But here's something that people need to understand. This is not new. This has happened in the past where you have an announcement, something that may be unprecedented, you see a drop. Then when it's used as a negotiating tool, we come to an agreement, everything goes back up higher than even before the initial drop. So Liberation Day is a good example. You can see that people saying it's going to. This is it. The markets crashed. Remember this? This week it's a $1.5 trillion wiped out. Well, I hope you didn't sell. Right. Because just look at these examples. Liberation Day, the Iran attack, we saw the same thing dip then higher than before China. Right. The tariff threats. That was around August, October 2025. The government shut down. Right. People saying the market's crashing and then it rebounds higher. It's almost like you guys should understand the pattern by now. I don't know how people don't. And this is why the left is never held accountable. They'll go, look, this is Mr. Bisman, look at the markets today. Great. Now let's. Hey, six days from now, you wanna talk about the markets? Well, that's just the market. Well, okay, so you want to attribute losses specifically to Donald Trump, but you don't want to attribute the consistent year over year gains that have helped generate prosperity for Americans while also enacting policies that help Americans. So guys don't panic when these things happen. And I would say, look at the track record. We'll make all those references available. You have these examples. You have them. You have Liberation Day, you have the Iran attack, you have China with their terror threats, you have the government shutdown. We've been here before. If you're a betting man, your bet is the dip. It's going back up and it's going to be higher than before. Yeah.

And it's one of the reasons, there's a lot of reasons for this. But the gold is like, it's record highs are right near record highs right now. People are like, I don't know what he's going to do. He might actually invade Greenland. So I need something a little bit more stable. So it's pretty funny to see people kind of running to these safe bets and then having the market go right back up every single time.

[Howard Lutnick]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

And of course, you guys know we have a partnership with Trugold. So if you want to make it a part of your diversified portfolio, I'm not saying buy all, buy nothing but gold. They're the best place to do it and the most straightforward, the most honest, highly recommend it. It's time now to discuss the remainder of Davos and Donald Trump. It's time for claim truth. So let's go through some of these claims. And by the way, this is why this is important. The goalposts always move and they move on to a New claim. Okay, so now we have the entirety of the record. Let's go through them. First claim that the United States doesn't actually need to secure Greenland because Europe has it under control. That was one of their defenses.

[David]

I think overall, there's a sense that the President's arguments are not holding up here. So he continues to insist that he needs Greenland for national security reasons. And yet it was just last week that the Danes and European allies announced they would be sending in reinforcements to Greenland. Additional troops, additional resources to bolster security both in Greenland and around the Arctic. And the President's response was to threaten to slap 10% tariffs on those countries. So I think people don't understand what he's trying to do.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, here's the truth. Europe can't defend Europe without America, let alone Greenland. And when she says they sent troops and a slap in the face. Well, hold on. Isn't it a slap in the face when you say, we don't need any American help, We've got it. And a coalition of European nations send in like 30 something people.

[Scott Bessant]

And they work at Kinko's during the day.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah.

Doesn't that kind of make the point? But the left wants to give credit. They sent in 30 something people. Well, clearly that's enough to deal with any potential threats.

[Scott Bessant]

Unbelievable.

[Steven Crowder]

And even the Finnish president, by the way, the president of the most boring country that's ever existed, had to walk back some of his tough talk. Two answers. First is a direct answer to the.

[Commercial Announcer]

Question of this panel. Can Europe defend itself?

[Steven Crowder]

My answer is unequivocally, yes. Without the Americans. Without the Americans? I mean, how. Look, you're relying on them for these key elements.

[David]

How would you do it at end, the scale and at duration. You've said earlier that Europe can defend itself without the Americans. If it comes down.

[Steven Crowder]

Not exact. Mike, that's not a quote.

[Scott Bessant]

Oh, my God.

[Steven Crowder]

Unequivocally, yes.

[David]

More or less.

[Howard Lutnick]

Let's.

[Steven Crowder]

We'll go back to the transcript. More or less. I almost like that he admitted it. Well, then Marie went on to talk about the planes. We have the planes. Of course, only the Americans can fly them. But she's like, no, no. The question was without Americans. Oh, then fuck, no, no, no. We don't have the pilots.

Why would we do that?

I don't know. If you know, Finland is not an important place, what's the. I don't know why I'm here, really. I'm inconsequential. Me and my Harry Potter glasses.

[Scott Bessant]

Yeah, they lost to our Eagle Scouts.

[Steven Crowder]

In a war, like, we didn't have enough badges. I don't just take this into consideration. These people say, yeah, we can do it without the United States. Okay, then do it. You know, start with, let's not talk about Greenland, which affects us a whole lot more than Ukraine. Right. As a matter of national security, do it with Ukraine. Oh, that's right. The United States has already sent over about 115 billion euros. Next closest is Germany with 25 billion. UK 19 billion. Finland, 3 billion. And it's even worse when you understand that most of that aid from these European nations, it's actually resettling refugees. It's not actually sending them any defensive capabilities. Did you know that everybody has these.

Big numbers that are bigger than the ones that we gave and we're like, well, if you take out the refugee settlements, they're not really contributing.

They're pretty much, yeah, it's tiny. This is when we're actually talking about aid that would be used, you know, to fight wars, which we think is probably the most significant number.

No, no, no. We'll just resettle people, Steve. Yeah, but the wars. Yeah, I understand that, but we're in the business of resettling people.

They all want the UKRA women.

[Scott Bessant]

Yeah, right.

[Steven Crowder]

Like, how many? Do you have any more Mela Kunis in there? You could just send some.

Sure.

I don't know, just flash frozen. So they go, oh, no, we can defend. We can defend without the United States. Okay, well then you wouldn't need to make this next claim, which was also made just so you know, like, it's irrelevant if a Europe can defend because it actually isn't even a threat at all.

[David]

I was just in Greenland last week. We were talking about this. I repeatedly spoke to Greenlandic officials who told me there is no evidence of an immediate Russian threat from Russia or China, telling me that they had not seen evidence of Russian and Chinese ships in Greenlandic waters, as the President has claimed. I even spoke to a Danish naval officer who told me that in his 30 plus years of working in and around Greenland, he had never seen a Chinese or a Russian ship. So I think there's confusion in terms of what the President's argument is here. People just don't understand what he's trying to do.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, let me tell you where the confusion is coming from. You're lying or misleading. I get it. You can say, well, I said I spoke with an officer. I spoke with a Danish officer. I didn't say this was the official word. Which may explain why you are parroting the narrative, funded by the Kremlin, out of Russia Today. You know, the people who you've also vilified. The whole notion of China or Russia seizing Greenland is about as ludicrous as China and Russia seizing the moon, at least anytime soon. They already did that. So absurd that they would. Well, here's the truth. Yeah, yeah, there is. There are Chinese. Yes. And Denmark. They flat out said it. So here's a Danish intelligent intelligence assessment from 2025. We don't have to reach back in the annals of history.

Don't.

No annals. Whatever. Sounds like anal. So it's always careful. This is what they wrote. China is preparing for a military presence in the Arctic. Well, Chinese icebreakers and research vessels operate in the Arctic and have conducted joint patrol exercises with Russia in the region. Wrap it up. That's done. I don't even need to read the rest of the quote. Right, right. At this point, it's very confusing because, you know, some people are saying that, you know, that there's a threat from the Russians and the Chinese and that there may be vessels, but I spoke with a guy and he said no. So I don't know why people are confused.

[Scott Bessant]

I know she's on a national news network.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Scott Bessant]

Quote. But I love it. Using anecdotal. Yeah, I heard a guy at a pizza policy that this guy said it's not going to happen.

[Steven Crowder]

And then they'll try and tell you that the problem with misinformation is in fake news as well. These people aren't meticulous about their sourcing. Okay, I read again. Danish Intelligence Assessment 2025. Chinese icebreakers and research vessels operate in the Arctic and have conducted joint patrol exercises with Russia in the region. You've got the players, the Chinese, the Russian. You've got the vessels because they saw them and they are conducting joint patrol exercises. You even have the region. Exactly what we said. But CNN can't quite get this clear.

[Scott Bessant]

No.

[Steven Crowder]

And it was the title. All they had to do was read.

[Scott Bessant]

The title of that.

[Steven Crowder]

Just read the title, basically.

And by the way, hold on. Before you move on, we have to fact check the Russia Today guy. It's like saying that Russia and China are going to take the moon.

Well, turns out, yeah, China. By the way, when they did it, that was an accident. They didn't mean like, oh, it's so dark, it's cold. I'm supposed to say, right side. I can't see.

[Scott Bessant]

They have a panda.

[Steven Crowder]

It'll be a discovery. Oh, no, I'm on the wrong side of the Moon. But while here, I'll take the chicken and broccoli. Yeah, chicken and broccoli, please.

I hope this is the office real.

[Scott Bessant]

Name because Ding Rui is a fantastic name.

[Steven Crowder]

It is Ding Rui. Ding Rui, yeah.

[Scott Bessant]

Have you had the Ding Rui?

[Steven Crowder]

They even added the motivation, by the way. The Danish intelligence, as they said, China aims to develop the capacity for independent military operations in the Arctic. Chinese activities that. Elon Musk. Greetings. Chinese activities are primarily concentrated in the waters of north of the Bering of the Bering Strait, extending towards the North Pole.

[Scott Bessant]

Oh, no. It's gonna mess up Christmas.

[Steven Crowder]

Now, let's. So, so, so. By the way, you can check all the references. Hey, tune in live 11am Eastern, because you may be watching this clip 11am Eastern. We always do this live. Become a part of the community. You may miss some things. There's a lot that goes on. It's. We're old school in that sense where you can actually tune in, live and interact with us. So if these Chinese vessels are there in the region and they're conducting joint operations with the Russians. Okay, so they are there. All right. And then we go back to the first claim, right? The goalpost move. Well, it's fine. They can actually defend it. They don't need the United States. Well, let me compare to you. The Denmark Navy, 127 active units, 0 carriers. By the way, China has 3 carriers and 10, 10 active units. So you tell me in which world the Danes can deal with the Chinese navy in that region, let alone if, according to their own words, they're conducting joint operations with the Russians. They have less than a tenth of active units and none of, by the way, the sort of deal breakers in these. No carriers. You tell me how they do it. 30, 34 troops, whatever, from all these other Europe. That's what's going to do it.

[Scott Bessant]

They get 54 Super Soakers.

[Steven Crowder]

Right, Exactly.

[Commercial Announcer]

Wetter is better filled with cat piss.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no, no, you misunderstand. Over at the Danish military, it's. It's Nerf or nothing. So the next claim that they make when they. Okay, all right, I'll have to relent. Okay. Europe can't even defend Europe. And yes, the Chinese are there and we should have read the intelligence assessment, considering we did an entire report on it. But none of that matters because President Trump is just like Putin.

[David]

David, if you are the Danes or Greenlandic officials, what are you thinking?

[Scott Bessant]

What you smell like?

[Ilya Somin]

Well, I think you're angry. I don't think you see what the President is displaying here as bravado. You see it as arrogance, you see it as bullying, you see it as the behavior of an aggressor, much akin to the behavior that you've seen from Russia in Ukraine.

[Steven Crowder]

A couple of things you should notice right there. It lists him as a columnist for the Daily Beast from the sea. And then. And if you look right behind him, he has that book there he wrote the inside story of how the deep state saved the nation. That's this guy, in case you're wondering about where he's coming from.

Oh, good.

Here's the truth. Well, there's a reason that that guy is the one making these points. This one. It's so stupid. I don't really know where to start. If President Trump is Putin because he wanted to obtain more land or be in control of more land for the sake of Americans security, that makes him Putin, then. So was Truman, so was Teddy Roosevelt, so was Monroe, so was Woodrow Wilson. Not the best example, but this guy obviously is a big fan of him. And the difference is not, hey, obviously looking at important territory strategically. The difference is killing a bunch of innocent people to take over land and continuing a war. Like, I feel as though we should all, or think that we should all understand this key difference. Yeah, I think most of you do. That's why cnn, the reason they treat you like you don't is because they want to condition you to be stupid. They want to condition you to simply accept, oh, well, she spoke with a. She spoke with a Danish guy. She had a Danish for breakfast. So there's no threat in Greenland like they want to. And then they want to condition you to believe. Keep in mind, these people are all involved with, I can't remember that one think tank nonprofit that listed this very program as the most biased, least reliable source, even though they acknowledge we're the only ones who provide references and that we fact check things. But they said because we use pejoratives or because sometimes we use ad hominems for every single Photoshop, for every single sketch, they say that's inaccuracy in news. Well, I'll tell you what we haven't done. We haven't said there's no threat. No one spotted any ships or vessels in, in Greenland. Because I spoke with a guy. We've never done that, just to be clear. Also, Putin's Ukraine war, I don't know, 1.5 million deaths. That's kind of a key difference, too.

That's a huge difference. You mean he's not just, like, negotiating he's actually invading. And the people at Ms. Now, where that guy was interviewing in the CNN ladies earlier on, they don't know who Putin is.

Yeah.

Do we forget the invasions of Georgia and other places around Russia, just killing hundreds, if not thousands of people. The former kgba, like, yeah.

What are we talking about, by the way? Europe, if you hate Putin so much. And by the way, I'm not a fan of Putin, Just to be clear. Stop enriching him by spending hundreds of billions of dollars on his oil. If you stop buying energy from. There's no more Putin. Your move.

[Scott Bessant]

They're feuding. They're fueling your own death.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep, yep, that's exactly right. Are we. How much Russian energy are we buying?

I think it's near zero.

Near zero. Near zero. Okay. And we've paid more than all other nations combined, which, by the way, I don't. I don't support Ukraine. You guys get your energy from Russia, but you guys say Trump is like Putin and Putin is the boogeyman. Boogeyman back. Bet who's made him.

Yeah.

Timber.

The UN Speech where Trump was like, hey, you guys probably shouldn't be buying your stuff from. In his, I believe, first term.

[Scott Bessant]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

And they lasted him.

So it's. It's worse to have a meeting with Putin and say that he's a smart guy. By the way, I don't like Putin. I do think he's a smart guy, to be clear. That's worse than sending hundreds of billions of dollars to purchase energy, which is precisely what enriches him. I just want to make sure I understand the rules. This is the problem with feminism. It's not about justice. It's not about truth. It's about feelings.

[Scott Bessant]

I'll put this into context. Picture Kamala trying to debate with Putin.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. I think she reflexively would just get back on the bed with open legs, like. Does this help?

[Scott Bessant]

No. Gross.

[Steven Crowder]

I am not. I am not mayor.

[Scott Bessant]

Ew.

[Steven Crowder]

I look tiny on my giant table.

[Scott Bessant]

Fine black pube. You know who was the mayors.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's the next claim. Okay. All right. Europe can't protect it. Okay. There is a threat because vessels have been spotted. And Trump maybe isn't like Putin because he hasn't killed 1.5 million people in a foreign land. But. But. But President Trump, he's just. He's ruined the Atlantic alliance forever. Remember, the world won't respect us.

[Ilya Somin]

What we are watching is the breakdown of an Atlantic alliance that has been the foundation of international peace for the past 80 years. You don't get over the kind of insults he's offered to the Danes or the Canadians or the British or the French or, you know, or anyone in Europe. And that's where we are. And this is Tacko Trump again backing off when somebody stands up to him.

[Steven Crowder]

But I thought it was.

[Ilya Somin]

Putin also sent a message that he is tone deaf. That he is oblivious to history. You know, woven into his remarks were other troubling dimensions. You know, he attacked the Somalis in the most racist possible way.

[Steven Crowder]

We could make it more racist.

[Ilya Somin]

Also know when they hear that.

[Scott Bessant]

But doesn't this guy have a glory.

[Ilya Somin]

Hole to build troops into the streets in the United States? That we are not the pillar of NATO that we have been for 80 years. That we are now a threat to Europe. And that's what people are walking out of the room thinking.

[Scott Bessant]

What people? Is that stupid?

[Steven Crowder]

Yes. Think about that for a sec. We're a threat to Europe by saying that we're not going to be spending more than all other nations combined. Wait, hold on a second. He's taco. Meaning he backs down. I thought he was Putin. Which one is it? You don't get over those kinds of. You also don't get over being a walking anti Semitic cartoon. That's tough to live with.

That's true.

I'm not saying it makes it right. I'm just saying that being a socialist columnist for the Daily Beast defending the deep state isn't doing anyone any favors optically. And this guy the most racist way possible by saying that the Somalis are low iq. I'm pretty sure we could be quite a bit more racist than that. Nick.

[Scott Bessant]

No. Yeah. Most societies wipe their ass with coconut skin. And can you see that guy was beat on his whole life. It goes to personality. I swear to God. Yeah. Can't you see he's been a doormat? And he sees Trump as an alpha male. Just as scary.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Scott Bessant]

And so they run to education and they stay in it their whole lives. They never build anything. Never hold the fucking real. They talk and they write and they talk. And then Trump comes in, who's actually built half the skyline of Manhattan, works with his hands and has billions of dollars and can relate to you and I. Yeah. They don't even know how to handle it. They've been so used to watching US Presidents show up there, just get pushed around.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Scott Bessant]

And Trump shows up.

[Steven Crowder]

No.

[Scott Bessant]

We. Yeah, we are NATO.

[Steven Crowder]

Right. Yeah, exactly. Right. No. Not only can people go. You think you relate to him because he's a billionaire. Well, I think that his policy on banning institutional investors from single family homes. I think no one has even attempted to make the case how that benefits the elites. The elites are pissed off with Trump. For more proof, see Davos. And here's the truth as to his claim. We're threatening you. He's destroyed a favorite. No, the Europeans are precisely responsible for any alliance issues. Okay? At what point do they need to take accountability? And this goes back to feminism, right? They want to leave without the accountability. They won't follow. That's what you see with Europe. Hey, you know what? If you're not footing the bill, you follow the person who is. That's how it works. Hey, just like I said with Snap, if I'm paying for the meal, I choose. If you are, you choose. We've been paying for the meal for half a century. As one of my new favorites, A longtime favorite, but he's growing. Scott Besant, he talked about this. Since 1980, we spent 22. Yeah, trillion, trillion more than all of our other NATO partners.

[Howard Lutnick]

To put it in perspective, the United States of America since 1980 has contributed $22 trillion more dollars or spent $22 trillion more dollars on defense than all of NATO. So roughly the same size population, and we have spent 22 trillion more. That is two thirds of our outstanding government debt.

[Steven Crowder]

It's now your debt.

[Howard Lutnick]

Europeans have been spending the money on social welfare, on roads, on education, and it's time for them to pay more, which they've agreed to do.

[Steven Crowder]

And I'm going to give you some numbers. Check the references. This is where I am. He's saying it in a subtle way. I will say this. 20 trillion of the debt of the United States is now yours. European. Here's the bill. 20 trillion. That's the cost of your free Internet, of your free healthcare, of your free 2, 3, 10 year paternity maternity leave, of your. Of your welfare state. $20 trillion is what you owe us. Here you go. And we'd have a leg to stand on. Just. Let's use Denmark as an example. Between 1990, 2023, they spent their 2% promise their contract precisely 0 times 0 times. And then they pledge in 2019, $224 million to defend Greenland. They have spent 1% of that. 1% of that. We're the ones responsible for destroying the alliance. This is the leftist worldview. And yes, I do. It does tie back to this idea of feminism, this idea of equity, this idea of if someone feels slighted, they must be in the moral right. No, you agreed to something. You didn't pay it ever. And now you're less than 1% on your most recent agreement fulfillment. You are responsible for this. And all we're saying is we're going to come in and take care of it. And that means since we're paying, we decide.

Exactly. I was about to say, there is no Atlantic Alliance. It is just the United States stepping in and making sure everybody's okay.

Right.

And we're just like, hey, guys, we're not going to put the bill anymore at the cost to the American taxpayer and the American first agenda. It's not gonna happen.

Yeah. And here's another truth for you. You know, while lefties across the world did decry, you know, the crackdown on crime here in the United States, where we have seen a record decrease in crime even lower than pre Covid levels. Europe is subsidizing, by the way, and in some cases, covering up criminal invasion. The rate of rape in England and Wales is up 140% from 2003 to 2022. And then we had Islamic roaming migrant rape gangs that their government helped. Helped cover up.

Yeah, don't talk about it, though, because that'll get you in trouble.

Yeah. What world do we live where they have a moral leg to stand on? Oh, that's right. The leftist world where immigrants good, white people bad. We showed you that commercial in Denmark where they said, you white couple, you actually need to break up and start dating people who aren't white. That's really the basis of the worldview. It makes no sense. It defies all logic. And actually, right now, because we wanted to see if these people can make their case, we sent our on the ground correspondent to Greenland. Do we have them? It's time to go to Thomas, Finnegan.

All right.

We'll see how this goes. Hi, Finnegan. Did you make it to Greenland, sir? Hi. Yeah. Did you make it there? Yeah. So you're actually there in Greenland in the right place this time. Yes. This is a first. I don't know what to say. Good job. Give it to us. What's your report there, what you're hearing on the ground, Finnegan? No. What do you mean, no? Because I invited you to my birthday party and you didn't show up. You didn't even respond. Do you know what it feels like to sit alone all by yourself, drinking beer after beer after beer in a booth at Bennigan's?

After looking over your shoulder every time.

Someone walks in the door? Well, I do. I do. Hey, Finnegan. Finnegan. Your birthday's next week. Your birthday's next week. Finnegan. I actually have it. No, Tim, cut it.

[Scott Bessant]

Cut.

[Steven Crowder]

And he's still more useful than the.

Danish military or the lady reporting on one Dane saying.

[Scott Bessant]

Yeah, I was going to say more informative than Ms. Now.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'd be more informed on geopolitics by watching the Jerry's Kids telethon. Like, just nothing. They offer nothing. I spoke with a guy, so there's no threat.

[Scott Bessant]

I performed on that.

[Steven Crowder]

Tilda, did you.

[Scott Bessant]

I had a kid laughing so hard he fell out of his wheelchair.

[Steven Crowder]

They say laughter is the best medicine, but that's actually not a good idea.

[Scott Bessant]

Apparently not. It doesn't affect als.

[Steven Crowder]

No. The body can't handle the vibrations of the IV came out. Yeah. So you want to, you want to continue with. Let's just, let's open this up. I think that President Trump had a pretty good showing. I think that as everything settles, Greenland makes sense. I think most importantly, the American public is more educated. Think of COVID as a moment where a lot of people woke up this entire administration. The second term is opportunity after opportunity after opportunity for people to wake up. Most people don't know that none of these other nations have met their requirements. Most people don't know that, for example, Denmark has paid 1% of the bill that they have promised. Most people don't know. And this is very consequential that the Danish intelligence reports that, yeah, yeah, yeah, we have these Chinese vessels and joint operations with Russia. I'm looking at them now. And then Trump saying, we gotta do something about. This is the actual sequence. Look, we're looking at. The vessels are doing joint operations right now. They have icebreakers, they have vessels. And it's very clear what China and Russia are doing. I've gotta do something about that. There's nothing. We didn't see it. What do you like? This is just. Everyone starts to. You need to be adults. You need to start being adults with this. Otherwise we can't come to any actual resolutions. Just. We can't come to any solutions. People, like, think of an argument. People are like, okay, well, we solved it. No solution. So what's the solution here? Everyone else in the world, you said there's a threat. You said you saw the vessels, you said you saw the icebreakers join operations with Russia. Okay. We think it's best if the most powerful military in the world, who has the single most vested interest in securing this territory, takes the lead. No. What's your solution? Because if you don't give us one, we're going with ours. It's childish. Childish.

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[Scott Bessant]

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[Scott Bessant]

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[Steven Crowder]

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[Scott Bessant]

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[Steven Crowder]

Credit stop if you cancel any lines. Qualifying credit required. So let's go to the other Davos people. They didn't quite have the same showing. Here's Gavin Newsom who loves to deliver his one liners that don't quite land as he thought pouting over his cancellation and whatever.

[Commercial Announcer]

I was going to speak last night. It was well established event at the USA House. Simple conversation, discussion.

[Steven Crowder]

Now you're in the B roch.

[Commercial Announcer]

They made sure that I didn't. They made sure it was canceled. And that's what's happening in the United States of America. Freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech. It's America can reverse. They're censoring historical facts. They're rewriting history. They're censoring books. 4,000.

[Steven Crowder]

What's up with all these books?

[Commercial Announcer]

Libraries and in schools banned in the United States of America. You're watching institutions. Any institution of independent thinking is under assault and attack by the Trump administration.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, so everything he's just said is untrue. First off, the event organizers flat out denied that there was any political pressure from the Trump administration. They probably just didn't want another asshole to speak. And then when you talk about books being banned, this is what the left does. They go, oh right, they've banned books. Sure. And by the way, I make no apologies for it. Books like Genderqueer Flamer. This book is gay Tango Makes Three. You know, pornography aimed at children. Yeah, we don't think that those books should be in the curriculum. Newsom's California banned books like To Kill a Mockingbird, the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Of Mice and Men. Let me ask you this. Let's say you're moderate. What's a more appropriate banning of a book? Genderqueer Flamer. This book is gay. In which a child fellates his high school friend in the Libra. Or To Kill a Mockingbird in anti racist novel. We're gonna play this game. Are we really gonna do this?

[Scott Bessant]

The problem is what you just said and how you just deflated their arguments. I want to See that on national TV every day.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I know.

[Scott Bessant]

They can troll 99% of the media.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Scott Bessant]

I want to see that on Sunday morning. I want to see. And maybe people will start tuning in again. But yeah, you know, they're preaching to the choir. Then they'll have some. They'll have some wishy washy like Bill Maher used to always have a wishy washy Republican on.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly.

[Scott Bessant]

Fleck and eight other guys will kick the out of them.

[Steven Crowder]

Right?

[Scott Bessant]

That's still going on.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, there's a reason that you have never been on Bill Maher show and I have never been on Bill Maher show. I didn't make it through the guest screener because I'm not as qualified.

[Scott Bessant]

Well, at least, at least you got that far.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, no, but you will hear that when he runs for president, by the way. I'm just wanting to make sure.

[Scott Bessant]

When he runs. Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Which obviously his freedom of speech, freedom of assembly. This is the guy that locked down California and filled in skate parks with sand and had police jogging after not catching runners on the beach during COVID Right, right.

No, you got it.

Yeah, this is the free speech advocate here. Yeah. You sure this guy doesn't want to put speech restrictions for like hate speech or maybe memes that he doesn't like?

[Scott Bessant]

Unbelievable.

[Steven Crowder]

Come on.

And here he is now on. There's another clip. Oh, that's right. I have this here on Trump's law crackdown.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Steven Crowder]

We get it.

[Commercial Announcer]

The best of the Roman Republic, Greek democracy, co equal branches, the government, the rule of law, popular sovereignty. Tell me that that reflects the America you read about today. There's no rule of law. It's the rule of dawn. I hope it's open for Europeans. That's dawning on you.

[Steven Crowder]

I hate you.

[Scott Bessant]

Oh, good.

[Commercial Announcer]

Not the rule of law. You don't have co equal. You have a supine Congress. You don't have a Speaker of the House. It doesn't exist. Popular sovereignty being challenged every single day by voter suppression, trying to rig elections. I mean, Donald Trump tried to steal the election last election, tried to light democracy on fire and then pardoned everyone that participated in that. Is anyone paying attention? What the hell is going on in the United States of America? So my state of mind is a little different perhaps than many others. I won't be complicit at this moment.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm going to get to the idea of rigging it. But. But I hope it dawned on, you can lick my dong, that joke sucked. And it got even worse later that night at the open mic because he's a prop comic now, By the way, rule of. Rule of law. Hold on a second. Yeah, let's see if a wormhole opened up that we fell into, because isn't California a sanctuary state, which specifically means you won't allow federal law to be enforced? And isn't this the guy who not only doesn't want voter ID, but specifically prohibits localities from asking for voter id? Rule of law. No ID to vote. And by the way, we're not going to enforce nor allow federal law dawning on you. I hate you.

[Scott Bessant]

How many houses have you built since the fires?

[Steven Crowder]

Right. Yeah, that's exactly right.

Zero.

And then. And then. Look, I get it. Don't just, you know, don't kill the messenger. Well, maybe there's a better one. Alex Soros being as articulate as articulate can be. We just heard this point about untrustworthy.

[Commercial Announcer]

People, and we talked about things in.

[Steven Crowder]

The United States like, you know, like checks and balances, which aren't written anywhere but are customs. And one man, Donald Trump, literally came in and just took that, you know, took that. Took that all away, you know, so, you know, so keep saying, you know, but when I see this, you know, when I look at this, followed by so, you know, you know, oh, my.

[Scott Bessant]

God, he's got Biden disease.

[Steven Crowder]

You know, regarding democracy, I also say to myself, when was this great time that everybody got along so well? 1955, you know, things were going so, so great.

[Scott Bessant]

Oh, my God. We have nothing to worry about.

[Steven Crowder]

You want to.

[Scott Bessant]

He's fucking retarded.

[Steven Crowder]

I was going to say, do you want to take a crack at it? Because I don't. I can't. I don't understand.

[Scott Bessant]

Well, I feel relieved after seeing that. I keep hearing, oh, no, we get Soros's kid to deal for the next hundred. What are you.

[Steven Crowder]

Me?

[Scott Bessant]

He's retarded.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. He looks like a Nick Kroll character playing a. Yeah, he had notes. He had notes.

[Scott Bessant]

And they all said, well, I know.

[Steven Crowder]

Was it just a bunch of use?

[Scott Bessant]

Yeah, you know. You know. You know, I don't know. That's why I asked you.

[Steven Crowder]

Stupid. I don't.

[Scott Bessant]

Nice glasses. You're gonna go welding later. What a retard. I do. I feel better. I thought he was gonna be, you know.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no.

[Scott Bessant]

Source is an evil genius. You can say a lot about him. He ain't no dummy.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. No, it requires a high IQ to say the Jews are in the attic.

[Scott Bessant]

What'd he do, bang a stripper?

[Steven Crowder]

I could hear them dipping their pinkies into porridge. So here's someone who's actually, you guys can comment if you guys. That's a, that's a deep cut. New Just. This guy really is finding his footing. You know, he's my favorite kind of gay because when people say, like, we don't care what you do in your bedroom, what we're talking about is Scott Besson. He gets his stuff done and he happens to like men's butts. But it's, you know, it doesn't, it never comes into play. So it's fine. We're like, whatever, that's fine. You like men's butts. Whatever. You want to see someone naked.

[Scott Bessant]

So, yeah, every time you bang a guy. As long as it doesn't take money out of my wallet.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, that's exactly right. Just pay for your own prep pill. Here he is, bimolex discussing, I mean, just torching Newsom and Newsom and Soros. Governor calls you smug. Are you smug?

[Howard Lutnick]

Yeah, you know, I think it's, I think it's very, very ironic that, you know, Governor Newsom, who strikes me as Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach. Ken may be the only color Californian who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris.

[Steven Crowder]

How long his arms are this week.

[Howard Lutnick]

With his billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros. And the Davos is a perfect place for a man who, when everyone else is on lockdown, when he was having people arrested for going to church, he was having thousand dollar a night meals at the French Laundry. And I'm sure the California people won't forget that. And I can tell my message to Governor Newsom is the Trump administration is coming to California. We are going to crack down on waste, fraud and abuse.

[Steven Crowder]

He basically just. He falsely allegedly outed Newsom as a gay pool boy for billionaires.

Yeah, pretty much.

He just did. And this is why we're going to make this recurring. We're going to have to do this as a regular installment. Sassy Scott slays, he's here this week.

[Howard Lutnick]

With his billionaire sugar daddy, Alex Soros.

[Steven Crowder]

Guarantee you that gets to him and he likes it. So what was your favorite speech from Davos is here. What was your favorite moment? You let me know. I think this is the most illuminating one for sure.

Beston right there. And then Howard Lutnick.

[Scott Bessant]

Yes, thank you.

[Steven Crowder]

Dead. And he did it to all the global elite.

[Scott Bessant]

Yes, that's the one I Enjoyed the most. Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

And listen, Trump's speech, every time he gives a speech, right. It was a huge reset. Probably the most kind of profound speech we've seen at one of these summits in a very long time. And obviously it's going to have great impact for us. But, man, when you walk into Lions Den and say you suck and it's all broken because of glow, yeah.

That's pretty bold.

[Scott Bessant]

And do it eloquently.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Scott Bessant]

It was really something to. I think, what's his name?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, Bessant.

[Scott Bessant]

He'd be good on, like, Comedy Central roast.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, you'd be great.

[Scott Bessant]

You know, I mean, with that dry delivery.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, he has that homosexual immunity, too. He's like, I was just being catty. All right. I guess we let him get away with it.

I guess so.

We always let gays get away with reprehensible behavior because we're like, wow, what are you gonna do? Change him?

But he's also feisty. He probably punched Elon Musk in the face.

Yeah.

[Scott Bessant]

A lot of gay rage.

[Steven Crowder]

He was like, I never expected to be ass catch by a homosexual.

[Scott Bessant]

I also.

[Steven Crowder]

It's kind of cool.

[Scott Bessant]

I also like Trump's tone. He sounded tired, but it made him sound more like a mafia don.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Scott Bessant]

It was just going like this.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Scott Bessant]

And on a big island, a lot of ice.

[Steven Crowder]

I think that's where we all are. Like, here's the thing. It doesn't mean that we're not happy, to use Andrew Breitbart's term, like, happy warriors. Joy. But we're so tired. It's just one of those things. You're like, no. And I will say this. I thought about this the other day. You know, people can be authentic. Everyone interacts with people differently, and it doesn't mean that you're putting on different Personas. And I realized this about myself. It's the level of guard that you have up, really. You know, if you don't know someone that well, you're more formal. You keep your guard up. Right. And then when you're around people who you know well enough, you don't want to have to be on your game. You're just like, okay, all right, fine. Do we have to do this? Like, can we just relax for a little? That's how I feel. President Trump and his administration is like, we've been doing this for so long. People know what's going on, right? Like, their guard isn't up anymore because they don't need to defend themselves in the way they used to, because they know that the left's position is indefensible. They're still the same person. It's just the tone is different where they're going. We're not gonna have. We're not gonna keep making the case to you because you've made none. All right?

[Scott Bessant]

The elitists acting like there's just still three major networks like abc, CBS, and NBC. Like the Internet doesn't even exist.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I know.

[Scott Bessant]

Which changed the whole ball, you know, for our side, at least, and for the good.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Scott Bessant]

And they still act like it's 1972 and Walter Cronkite's telling them what's up.

[Steven Crowder]

They cannot adapt. And that brings us to this next segment. Look, since I've had to engage in quite a few debates, not only on the show and then, I wouldn't say debates, but rhetoric with change, my mind when I notice a troubling trend. I definitely want to make you aware of it because you may use this argument. I have seen a lot of people on the right use this argument. You need to keep in mind you may score points with this, but does it end up shortchanging your entire position? If it does, you really probably shouldn't use it and try and stick with the through line of your sort of foundational arguments when it comes to immigration. Did we have an immigration problem? Yes. Right. Anywhere from 15 to 20 million illegal aliens just in the Biden years alone. Low end would be 12 million. Okay, that's a problem. We acknowledge it. Is President Trump doing better? Well, yes. The border is sealed at this point. We are not seeing illegal immigrants cross the border. We're a net negative migration country for the first time, and deportations are up. That's your foundation that precludes you from making the argument, well, hey, hey, liberal.

[Scott Bessant]

Hey.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, you didn't complain when Obama deported more than Trump. When Clinton deported more. But then people said, well, didn't you just say it was a problem? So I see a lot of conservatives making this argument, and it's not true here. I'm kind of curious what your position was back during the Obama administration when that's exactly what he did. I'm not reading what Trump intends to do. I'm reading exactly what President Barack Obama did when he came into office and deported nearly 5 million people. He didn't. In excess of 3 million people. I would note that in eight years, Bill Clinton deported 12 million people. He didn't. Obama's first. This is crazy, but this is true. Obama's first four years deported more than Trump. Did in his four years as president. He didn't. Also, it's rumored that of Clinton's 12 million, about one and a half million of them were just sent to the wrong island. So that throws off the. Now, Jillian Michaels tweeted this as well, and this is what kind of spurred me to think about it. I would say her tweet tweet is not super descriptive. Her video is better. She makes the case and I appreciate the way that she does. So don't take this and start drama. I'm not saying that Jillian Michaels is singularly wrong. I just don't think this is the best line of arguing. Here's what she tweeted that Democrat President Bill Clinton deported 12 million people. Obama 5 million people. Donald Trump has deported less than 1.5 million people. Why did you not hear about the ICE raids and deportation operations when it was Democratic politicians, Republicans, giving the orders? Again, this argument that people make, it just, it doesn't make sense. You can't maintain the position that it's a good thing Donald Trump is fixing the border and upping deportations and then say, by the way, there was no problem created because Obama and Clinton did it 10 times as much. Do you understand that? And I'll tell you before I get to it, so you can check the references. It really comes down to the idea of deportations versus returns. So that's an informal process, like border turnarounds, voluntary departures. The courts aren't involved. It didn't include due process. We don't really have those now because people are not trying to get across the border. That's actually been fixed. So once you understand the delineation, yes, Donald Trump has deported far more people. If you're going on a, on a per monthly basis, he's more effective. And there's a reason that the left is mad about it. The reason that the left is mad about deportation should be the reason that you support it. It don't use the argument that the left deported more people because they didn't. They imported far more people. Here's Gillian Michaels explaining it in a way that I think is valuable but misses the mark as far as line of arguing.

[Gillian Michaels]

Bill Clinton, he deported or returned 12 million people. Obama deported and returned 5 million people. Trump is not even at 1.5 million. And no, they didn't all get due process. In fact, Bill Clinton worked with a Republican Congress to pass a law that deprived anyone within 100 miles of any US border who'd been in the country less than 14 days. A courtroom. Obama expanded that law. So for everyone who's mad about alligator Alcatraz, let's also not forget that Obama was, was the one who built the cages at the border.

[Steven Crowder]

That's true.

[Gillian Michaels]

The reason the cages were seeing ICE agent raids all over the news back then is because sanctuary cities did not exist. Local law enforcement cooperated with federal law enforcement. They held criminals for ICE to pick up. They didn't release them the easy way. They didn't tell people.

[Steven Crowder]

That is all true.

[Gillian Michaels]

Trump's private army, who was zip tying children, also a lie. And guess what? ICE didn't have to wear masks. They wore street clothes. They didn't need to wear riot gear. No riot. No riot gear. Wake up. You're being manipulated now.

[Steven Crowder]

She makes some very good points about Barack Obama building the cages. She makes very good points about sanctuary cities, sanctuary states. I highly recommend you go and watch her whole video on it. I think it's informative. What this really comes down to, though, is a key fact here. Let's just go through this. The key fact first one, I want to present the difference, like I said, between returns and true removals. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who believes that Barack Obama or Bill Clinton were harsher on immigration. So both of these count as deportations. They are very, very different. So returns, like I said, informal, includes everything from border turnarounds to voluntary departures. It doesn't involve the courts, it doesn't involve due process. Of course, there are also reach arounds which we stopped doing or tracking after Clinton. Yeah, that just cause it's screeching halt. Now, true removals, yummy. Are the formal process of deporting someone. That means getting a court order. That means arresting, processing, physically returning the illegal alien, the legal term, by the way, to their home country. Let me ask you this. What do you typically think of as a deportation? We can't keep conflating these numbers because none of the arguments are going to hold water. And this is an important note too. After Clinton, some border turnarounds actually counted as removals due to a definitional change. So it allowed Barack Obama to misleadingly claim some big number of form formal removals when that wasn't really the case. Under President Trump, there are basic. Virtually no border turnarounds. Border crossings are down 95%. So that big inflated number would be down by 95% because that's the reason for the number that you see from Barack Obama and from Bill Clinton. So this brings us to key fact number two. Check the references. You can actually, I think this comes from the DHS with Bill, with Clinton. About 93% of Clinton's deportations were the aforementioned returns.

Wow.

So only 870,000 were truly deported. Meaning went through the process, rounded up, processed, arrested, sent back. Not 12 million in eight years.

[Scott Bessant]

How many?

[Steven Crowder]

870,000.

Geez.

Barack Obama, about 74% of his deportations were non judicial returns. So 1.4 million truly deported, not 5.6. So when conservatives go Clinton did 12 and Barack Obama did 5. No, the real answer is Clinton did 800 something thousand and Barack Obama did 1.4 million in eight years.

[Scott Bessant]

Yeah, I never liked that argument. Sounds, it sounds counterintuitive to what we're trying to get done here.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Scott Bessant]

Those numbers, you're actually bragging, they were great at kicking illegals.

[Steven Crowder]

And here's the other thing.

[Scott Bessant]

That's how people take it.

[Steven Crowder]

You also get more credit because since the turnarounds, they're not like formal illegals could just keep trying to cross. And how many stories have we covered? I mean, you have people who would cross the border illegally, seasonally, they would do that, go back and then come back. They would do it on a recurring basis. A revolving door of Ms. 13. Right. So let's just keep that in mind. That'll pump up those numbers. And here's the key factor in the real world, I think matters most. Number three. We all know that the number of illegal aliens in this country grew under Obama and under President Clinton. Under Clinton, the illegal population went up by 3.2 million. Under Barack Obama, it went up by 2.8 million. That is the contrast to Donald Trump actually deporting people. He's never going to get those numbers. If you, and you're using the left, you're operating within the left's framework because he solved 95% of that problem that they didn't at the border. Please stop using this argument because I guarantee you that it will bite you in the ass. And the moment that it becomes overwhelmingly popular to deport illegal aliens and we're seeing that grow, guess what? The left will claim credit for it and they'll cite you as giving them credit.

[Scott Bessant]

Steve, what's the definition of a turnaround?

[Steven Crowder]

What? A turnaround could be anyone who's come and they've just basically turned from the border. Nope. Or an informal process, like we said, which is, okay, you're going to get out of here. That doesn't go through a court order, doesn't have to go through due process. So it's much more relaxed and it include a whole Lot of. Could include the same person who is turned back three, four times. Yeah, that's not the same thing as ice removing them. You're out. You've been processed. Oh, and by the way, not coming back. You're not coming back in again. Yeah, that's super important for people to note. And just to be clear, illegal alien. That's the legal term, despite what little pricks at CNN say. Quick last word, Cameron.

[Scott Bessant]

They're getting a break.

[Steven Crowder]

Listen, you can't say illegals anymore because ICE is directly targeting legal citizens of this country and I. How are you going to enforce your edict on me? Just out of curiosity? Just listen to his point about illegal. You're changing the topic. No, no, I want to make. You're making a point. Making about people being arrested. I understand that your job is predicated on just getting increasingly more demented every single week and that the audience comes back to see if. My point is that you're saying the word illegals because it's in federal. Really know what's happening. Or actually, I think you do this on purpose, but yes, because I want the law enforced. They are not just targeting illegal immigrants, they are targeting natural born US Citizens. They are not.

[Scott Bessant]

We'll have one on your show deny that.

[Steven Crowder]

I mean, you can on national television, facts all the time. They are a couple times in this very episode. I still want to know how you're going to enforce your line. We'll take that up.

[Scott Bessant]

How are we going to enforce it?

[Steven Crowder]

Coming up. Did they promise the Epstein deadline? I'll tell you exactly what you just saw. You saw a young man raised in the institutions dominated by feminism who encountered a man from another generation who wouldn't tolerate it where he's going. Oh, no, wait, hold on a second. This isn't a disagreement on policy. You're now telling me how I have to speak. Okay, how are you going to enforce it in the green room, tough guy? Oh, you're going to tell what I can and can't say this young man never encountered. Make me. That's not the same thing as saying, well, hold on a second. You're not allowed to say this anymore. Oh, make me. Make me stop. That's what was happening right there. And this is the disconnect. And I don't mean like, that's not music and people don't like whether it's Elvis or whether it's House. What I mean is the way that males interact. And you can see, by the way, very insulting interactions. You can see it in parliament. You can see it with our early founding, you can see it all throughout politics. What you don't get to do is cross that line and tell a man, you actually have to do what I say. Because now you're trying to crown yourself a king. And if you're gonna do that, you really better have the might to make.

[Scott Bessant]

Right in a dick and not a vagina.

[Steven Crowder]

That helps. That helps.

[Scott Bessant]

Seriously, what the fuck?

[Steven Crowder]

But in public schools, if he goes, hey, you can't say that anymore. Guarantee you if the other boy said what I can say what I want. Make me, the teacher would go, hey, well, hold on, let's just avoid using that language if it's low. No, no, no. You tell me that you're going to order me around, you better be able to make me. That's what Jennings is saying. And I know some people are going, oh, that wasn't really the best argument. No, no. He's trying to point out a modus operandi of the left. And this is the byproduct of feminism failing young men. There is an appropriate and there is an acceptable way to interact with other men. That's not it.

[Scott Bessant]

Call me he. They call me they. Them. What? I'm not playing fucking game. Yeah, yeah, I have a joke about that. You know, and. And people were getting fired if they didn't. Right, Right.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh yeah.

[Scott Bessant]

Dead named people at work. You don't force me into your mental illness. Like when you see a homeless guy with an imaginary dog. Yeah, I don't have to go over a pet. What is this, a collie?

[Steven Crowder]

I do though. I go over, I pet him and I go, I don't know, I feel a lump on his neck. You need to get him. I don't know. You're like, yeah, get out of here.

[Scott Bessant]

I usually go, this little dog, dude, you're crazy.

[Steven Crowder]

Sometimes it is fun to entertain their delusion and make it scarier, by the way. Oh, I guess we're going, we're going late. So if you are not. When we talk about mainstream media, if you are not yet a Mug Club Rumble premium member, because they are one in the same, consider joining. This entire show goes away. We are supported by viewers like you. That's why there is no 20 minutes of ads. And in the face of AI slop all over the now, this is actually a real show created by real people. $99 a year, you get this real hand etched mug, 100% more. Show everything ad free. Or you can try for nine bucks a month and it helps us keep the lights on a little bit. Longer. If not. Hey, continue watching. You will be whisked to Tim Pool. And again, it's all free. 9:00am to 7:00pm It's a lineup like CNN, only fewer fags, but still some. Some.

Because we have besant.

We have besant. We have besant. So Chris Cuomo, who I guess just gauging his reaction is not a man, had a meltdown over the Jennings comments.

[Scott Bessant]

I know.

[Steven Crowder]

What are you bully now?

[Scott Bessant]

What are you tough guy?

[Steven Crowder]

Because you're talking to this kid who happens to be right. I'm supposing people illegals, they're called illegal.

[Howard Lutnick]

Aliens in the law.

[Steven Crowder]

And you know what?

That's true.

A long time ago, Republicans and Democrats switched to undocumented.

No, we did.

[Scott Bessant]

Why?

[Steven Crowder]

Because it go left. Fake weights, Fredo. That's why.

[Scott Bessant]

Exactly.

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