Tucker Carlson & MAGA: Everyone is Missing the Point

Summary

Louder with Crowder – Podcast Summary

Episode: Tucker Carlson & MAGA: Everyone is Missing the Point

Date: November 3, 2025
Host: Steven Crowder ("Seth" in transcript), with Gerald, Josh Firestein, and various co-hosts/commentators

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on issues of truth versus falsehood in media and politics, focusing particularly on perceived media bias in coverage of Donald Trump (especially a recent 60 Minutes interview), the question of persecution of Christians globally (highlighted through coverage of Nigeria), and internal rifts within the conservative movement around Tucker Carlson's recent controversial interview with Nick Fuentes.

Steven Crowder argues that the greatest divide in American society is not simply political, but based on the willingness (or lack thereof) of major institutions, especially the media, to report truthfully. The episode weaves through mocking "legacy media," dissecting edited Trump interviews, critiquing left-wing and right-wing hypocrisy, and cautioning against both right-wing infighting and the temptation to "fight dirty" with dishonesty.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Truth vs. Falsehood: The Central Litmus Test

• Crowder asserts that truthfulness, not simple partisan alignment, is the most important value and the only litmus test that matters.

  "It's pretty easy to decipher who we line up with or who lines up with us if you simply use the litmus test. 'Hey, is this truthful or is it a falsehood?'" (04:08)

• He rejects bipartisan claims that dishonesty is solely a left-wing problem, calling out clickbait, misleading editing, and algorithmic echo chambers.

2. Media Editing & the Trump 60 Minutes Interview

• The show highlights side-by-side comparisons of how 60 Minutes allegedly edited interviews to favor Democrats (Kamala Harris) and disadvantage Republicans (Donald Trump).

• Crowder accuses legacy media of omitting key context from Trump's interview, making him look worse, while editing Harris to appear more competent or coherent.

  • Example: 60 Minutes cuts Trump's explanations about the government shutdown, specifically omitting his argument that Democrats want to give “over a trillion dollars” in benefits to illegal immigrants.

    "In this case, Donald Trump is listing the reason for the shutdown…The media…[wants] to blame Donald Trump… People don't know about this at all." (18:34–20:53)

  • Example: 60 Minutes leaves out Trump's record of aggressive federal intervention reducing crime in certain cities—crowd notes this omits “results” (23:10–24:19).

  • "Wouldn't they [results] be relevant?...The mainstream media isn't talking about it." (23:51, Gerald)

• They discuss the double standard in media treatment:

  • Editing Kamala Harris's interview to hide rambling or incoherent answers, versus editing Trump to exclude crucial context.

Notable Quote

“Those who claim the mantle of journalism, you can't just take things out of context and present it as a whole truth. It's irresponsible at best.” (15:31)

3. Christian Persecution and Selective Outrage

• Crowder highlights the persecution of Christians globally, especially in Nigeria, accusing the media and leftist activists of ignoring Christian suffering in favor of Palestinian or other causes seen as more 'fashionable.'

  • Provides stats: 365 million Christians worldwide face high levels of persecution, 15,000 churches attacked in 2024, 7,000 Christians killed in Nigeria this year.

  • Expresses frustration with inconsistent standards of Western intervention:

    • Left demands action for Palestinians, but calls Trump's threats to intervene in Nigeria “Christian nationalist grandstanding” (37:03–38:40).

Notable Quotes

“It’s selective based on one criteria. Are these people the oppressed?... That’s how you get people waving both LGBTQ AIP rainbow flags and Palestinian flags side by side, even though they don’t match up.” (35:00–35:52)

• Lively, dark humor and banter about Nigerian aid, government corruption, and the futility of nation-building.

Panel’s Stance on Foreign Aid

Crowder:

"I think we need to cut off all aid to Africa, period... as long as the corruption is still there, giving them more money only exacerbates the problem." (47:08)

4. Tucker Carlson, “MAGA,” and Platforming Controversial Figures

• Recent uproar over Tucker Carlson’s interview with Nick Fuentes serves as a jumping-off point for Crowder to discuss what should and shouldn’t be “disqualifying” on the right.
  • Panel mocks those using “woke” and attacks on Tucker from both ends, decrying cancel culture and infighting.

    "Interviewing controversial figures should not be disqualifying at all... That should never be disqualifying because I would be disqualified." (57:07, 57:51)

  • Warns against adopting leftist arguments (e.g., “platforming”) to silence fellow conservatives.

Notable Quotes

“It’s time for clean truth.” (55:13) “You sound like the left. Now, let me put forward what I think should make one skeptical. If you get to that point where you are, for example, running interference, pushing propaganda for known foreign adversaries...” (58:59)

• Crowder draws a distinction between interviewing controversial people (e.g., Putin, Fuentes, imams) versus promoting or echoing their propaganda.

  • Criticizes Carlson’s sympathetic segments on Russia, calling them misleading and dishonest:

    “He’s smart enough to know that is not only half the story, but it’s misleading. It’s dishonest… I have no problem with him interviewing Vladimir Putin. I’m skeptical when I see someone spouting the talking points that Putin would like that are lies, that are dishonest.” (60:25)

  • Warns against repeating state propaganda or presenting a distorted reality (“running interference,” “pushing propaganda”).

  • Panel references the difference between interviewing for accountability, versus “simping for Sharia law” or glossing over atrocities.

5. Broader Cultural and Political Satire

• Throughout, the episode leavens serious commentary with mocking sketches, musical parodies, and irreverent humor.
  • Frequent running jokes: edited Trump music albums, judges without pants, the Nigerian air force, U.S. foreign aid ("making Africa worse"), helicopter names, and more.
  • Crowder, Gerald, and others riff on media bias, the double standard in Western politics, and the self-sabotage of ideological purity tests.

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Significant Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• On truth as a political litmus test:

  "It's pretty easy to decipher who we line up with or who lines up with us if you simply use the litmus test. 'Hey, is this truthful or is it a falsehood?'" (04:08)

• On media dishonesty:

  “Those who claim the mantle of journalism, you can't just take things out of context and present it as a whole truth. It's irresponsible at best.” (15:31)

• On the ‘real’ divide in America:

  “It's not left and right, man, politics isn't a team sport... But I will agree that as far as dishonesty, that's not exclusive to the left and the right. It's become an industry.” (13:00)

• On selective outrage & Christian persecution:

  “It’s selective based on one criteria. Are these people the oppressed? …you could have a moral billionaire, a moral government. You could have an oppressed evil person. They would side with that person.” (35:00)

• On foreign aid and corruption:

  "Giving them more money only exacerbates the problem... We've made Africa worse..." (47:13)

• On the right’s infighting over Tucker Carlson:

  “Interviewing controversial figures should not be disqualifying at all…that should never be disqualifying because I would be disqualified.” (57:07, 57:51)

• On crossing the line from interviewing to propaganda:

  “If you get to that point where you are, for example, running interference, pushing propaganda for known foreign adversaries… that are lies, that are dishonest.” (58:59)

• On hypocrisy in debates over platforming:

  "You sound like the left." (58:59)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:08 | Theme: Truth vs Falsehood; media dishonesty as central issue | | 13:00 | Dishonesty “an industry,” not exclusively left or right | | 15:31 | Discussing media editing of 60 Minutes interviews | | 18:34–21:04 | Trump on government shutdown—context omitted by 60 Minutes | | 23:10–24:19 | National Guard deployment; crime reduction omitted from coverage | | 27:11–28:21 | Trump on unprecedented lawfare and impeachment | | 34:05–35:00 | Christian persecution stats; contrast with pro-Palestinian activism | | 37:03–38:40 | Trump’s statement about Nigeria—the left’s/humanitarian reactions | | 46:41–47:08 | Nigerian crisis—should US intervene, panel’s conclusions | | 55:13–61:02 | Tucker Carlson, right-wing attacks, definitions of cancel culture | | 60:25 | Critique of Carlson’s Russia coverage as misleading | | 63:25–64:41 | On "platforming" and critiquing Sharia law; importance of challenging| | 65:05 | Segue to commercials ("Downy Unstoppables")/non-content |

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Notable Humor and Banter

• Trump musical parody album: “Now that's what I call Trump…” (05:13+)
• No-pants police officer/court story: (09:02–10:49)
• Nigeria's air force and “nation-building”: (49:26–51:39)
• Native American helicopter names, drink tickets at comedy clubs, and casino gigs. (52:13–53:19)
• “Jane Fonda for bitches,” CBS interview segments available on Nora O'Donnell’s “OnlyFans”: (30:31)

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Tone and Style

The episode maintains Crowder’s signature irreverent, sarcastic, and sometimes provocative tone, alternating between serious commentary and edgy humor. The discussion is direct and unvarnished, with Crowder and his team often using hyperbole, mockery, and contrarian takes to make their points. Despite a few serious appeals for consistency and truth, the style is consistently punchy and combative, frequently calling out both left and right for hypocrisy.

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For Listeners: Takeaways

• Crowder sees media dishonesty and bias as the key driver of America’s social/political divide, more than simple party lines.
• Legacy/mainstream media routinely omits crucial facts or context, especially when covering Trump, fueling “two Americas.”
• Christian persecution is underreported compared to other global crises; outrage is selectively deployed.
• Right-wing infighting (e.g., over Tucker Carlson’s interviews) risks mirroring the left’s cancel culture—Crowder urges focusing on real truth and substance, not "guilt by association."
• Interviewing controversial figures is not inherently wrong; only promoting their falsehoods or propaganda is cause for concern.
• Foreign aid and interventions are questioned; Crowder suggests cutting aid to corrupt governments, not enabling them.

Crowder encourages his audience to challenge dishonesty, even within their own ranks, and to value consistent, principled positions above partisan tribalism or emotional overreaction.

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Summary Table: Key Segments

| Segment | Main Points | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------| | Theme: Truth vs. Falsehood | Litmus test for alignment; media's role in widening the divide | 04:08 | | 60 Minutes/Media Edits on Trump & Harris | Side-by-side breakdowns, omitted context, double standards | 15:31+ | | Government Shutdown, Crime, Lawfare | Omitted Trump comments; impact on public perception | 18:34+ | | Christian Persecution, Nigeria | Data, double standards, debate on intervention and aid | 33:26+ | | Right-Wing Infighting & Tucker Carlson | Reaction to Nick Fuentes interview, cancel culture, standards for critique| 55:13+ | | Platforming vs. Promoting Falsehoods | Acceptable to interview, not to echo misleading propaganda | 58:59+ |

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This summary captures the episode’s major themes, supporting details, and the spirited, combative tone of Crowder and his crew.

Transcript

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[Seth]

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[Gerald]

So.

[Seth]

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[Gerald]

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[Seth]

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[Seth]

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[Seth]

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[Seth]

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[Gerald]

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[Seth]

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[Seth]

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[Co-host/Commentator]

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[Josh Firestein]

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[Gerald]

Good.

[Seth]

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[Josh Firestein]

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[Co-host/Commentator]

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[Seth]

Yeah, it's okay. And then you're going to go see him, right? Friday, November 7, at Bricktown Comedy Club in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Right, right, right. Saturday, November 8th, Town Comedy Club, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Mr. Josh Firestein. How are you, sir?

[Gerald]

Good. Good. Halloween was good for me, too.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

Well, my daughter's friends came with us.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

Afterwards, she wouldn't leave.

[Seth]

Oh, one of those.

[Gerald]

Yeah, she wouldn't leave. She's like, I'm gonna text my mom's and see when I gotta be home. They're like, check in at 10.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

All right, well, maybe you need a dad.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

But then she's like, sitting on the couch, she goes, hey, are you guys cool with cussing?

[Seth]

She really?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. I was like, no, no.

[Gerald]

And then my daughter was like, dad. And I was like, you also can't drink beer or smoke cigarettes in my house.

[Seth]

Yeah. Or scissor.

[Gerald]

Yeah. No scissoring.

[Seth]

I don't care what goes on.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Yeah.

[Seth]

I know that Tonight they're busy, busy, busy.

[Gerald]

Just eat your Baby Ruth's and shut up.

[Seth]

I don't know. Oh, that's right. We already started putting up Christmas decorations.

[Co-host/Commentator]

The little ones.

[Gerald]

Really?

[Seth]

The very next day, this early? They just trotted them out and. Yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

At 10:00pm on Halloween night, I turned my Christmas lights on. What are you talking about?

[Seth]

Did you really?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yes.

[Seth]

Oh, good. I didn't even know you had them installed. You just never take them down, do you?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Well, it's Christmas all year round.

[Seth]

It's okay. You're a redneck at heart, Mr. Poor Boy. All right, first up, before we get to the stories, here's a Detroit police officer who was admonished for not wearing the. Well, I guess the specified uniform. Officer Jackson, good morning to you. Can you put your appearance on the record, please? Yes, Officer Jackson. Vast of 2919 at a 12th precinct.

[Officer Jackson]

All right.

[Seth]

You gotta ask the camera judge.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You got.

[Seth]

You got some pants on the. No, Sir.

[Officer Jackson]

Jackson.

[Seth]

Okay.

[Gerald]

Ms. Lee, I'm Officer Jackson. I got no pants.

[Seth]

I just. I got to say, that's the perfect way to handle it. It really is. It's. I mean, I could picture a judge, but that's severely disrespectful. Look, you know the guy just got the camera angle wrong.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yep.

[Seth]

We've all made that mistake once or twice. Sure.

[Gerald]

You got.

[Seth]

Yeah. Got no pants, cuz. No, sir. All right. He goes there in the.

[Gerald]

Is that what he called him? Cuz. He said.

[Seth]

I think he said cuz, didn't he? You got pants, cuz? Didn't he say that? It could just be me stereotyping Let me see again. I feel like that's what he said.

[Co-host/Commentator]

What?

[Seth]

NWA court officer.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I think it's a counselor.

[Gerald]

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I love how he's like, I'm gonna come up with an excuse. He's like, none of it matters because I don't have people.

[Gerald]

I can't get out of this.

[Seth]

He just gave up mid excuse. And the guy's like, all right, I'm gonna let you have this one.

[Gerald]

At least he wasn't pulling a tuban, right?

[Seth]

Everyone already saw my naired legs pulling a tubin. Which also, though it does beg the question who wore it better, I think. Yeah, you know what?

[Gerald]

Officer Jackson.

[Seth]

Return. There's not much else to do with that.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's just makes me happy, though.

[Seth]

I just wanted to bring a smile to your face this morning. And, you know, I, I, I think that he handled it as well as he could. At least he didn't just completely flip out like our friend D Day.

[Gerald]

Yo, what up, fam? It's your boy, D Day. Just hanging out the Izzy, living in luxury. And today I'mma let y' all in on my secrets to success so you can live it up like me. You feel me? I'm finna show you how to glow up without a blow up so you can cop a crib like me. Darrell, this is my house. You didn't pay for this. I did. Dad, you're interrupting my video. I'm gonna have to restart now. And stop calling me Daryl. I told you, it's D Day now. D Day. I'll stop calling you Darryl when you start on the D ishes. How about that, Darryl? On God, fam. On God. He don't even know. He don't even know what I'm finna do. Do your followers know you sleep in a bunk bed? I told you, I'm saving up for the king bed. I swear to God, man, on everything. I can't wait to move out. And you can. You just have to call American Financing like I told you to. And you gonna have to call the ambulance when I pop a cap in your ass. I didn't do nothing.

[Seth]

I'm sorry.

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[Seth]

More smiles.

[Gerald]

He's always wigging out.

[Seth]

I think D Day is going to end up probably, probably sleeping at Colton Wade's place.

[Gerald]

Probably at least for a couple nights.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Maybe.

[Gerald]

Maybe take Josephine off of his hands.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, there you go. That's a deep cut.

[Seth]

Those of you who know what we're talking about, you can comment below. All right, so falsehoods versus truth. That's really where we are in this country. And I will tell you this, when people often say, it's not left and right, man, politics isn't a team sport. Well, I've been pretty clear I'm not gonna fake common ground with people based on a lie. But I will agree that as far as dishonesty, right now, that's not exclusive to the left and the right. It's become an industry. Clickbait and misleading people. The algorithms which were supposed to make consuming content more convenient have really just sort of become this mechanism to showcase exactly what you want to hear said. It's almost made it impossible for people to communicate dissenting point of view that might be beneficial to your worldview. So I get that. That being said, I am precluded as a Christian conservative nationalist from voting for anyone in the Democrat Party. So want to make sure that's really clear. But here's a quick flashback before we get to the current interview that just was released with President Trump. 60 Minutes. They're at it again. Remember this when they selectively edited the material out of that interview with Kamala Harris and they did it in that case to try and make her look better. Still didn't work. Groceries are 25% higher than when you.

[Officer Jackson]

Took office and people are blaming you and Joe Biden for that.

[Seth]

Are they wrong?

[Nora O'Donnell]

So you are correct that under our leadership, the United States of America has recovered and is stronger than any other so called developed nation in the world. And to your point, prices are still too high.

[Officer Jackson]

You have accused Donald Trump of using racist tropes when it comes to Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, when it comes.

[Seth]

To birtherism, when it comes to Charlottesville. In fact, you have called him a racist and divisive.

[Officer Jackson]

Yet Donald Trump has the support of millions and millions of Americans.

[Seth]

How do you explain that?

[Nora O'Donnell]

So let's just break down what you just talked about and talk about it in the context of the words that Donald Trump has spoken and the actions he has taken.

[Seth]

All right, okay, that's enough. We don't need to watch any more of her. She's yesterday's news. But you can go and watch the original segment. We'll make the link available in the description. They edited out a lot of doublespeak and a lot of stuff that made absolutely no sense. Now, this does matter because those who claim the mantle of journalism, you can't just take things out of context and present it as a whole truth. It's irresponsible at best. I prefer sausage. Come on, Gerald. I was your penis. Gerald, I'm trying to do a show here.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Just let me touch on the poll really quickly.

[Seth]

Gerald, are you done?

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's been over 160 years. Black people. Get over it and move on.

[Seth]

Okay, we're going to have to.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That one's fair.

[Seth]

I mean, we're going to need a Gerald cap to put him in the corner.

[Officer Jackson]

My God.

[Seth]

I know. It's enough. I can't believe he just said that. I cannot believe that you just said that. Everyone, you guys can let Gerald know that fake news expect better from him.

[Co-host/Commentator]

AI.

[Seth]

Well, let's.

[Gerald]

Well, that's getting an intention right there.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Prove it isn't. Yeah, okay.

[Seth]

Okay.

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[Seth]

There you go. That's proof. That's proof enough for me. He said it. Because there's an official admonishment, it's now a matter of record. Now let's flash forward, right? We'll time travel to today where 60 minutes. As opposed to trying to make Kamala Harris look good, they edited this down to make President Trump look bad. And it's even worse than that. They edit out some. I wouldn't just say pivotal context. I think they edit out in some of these, the most important context and it actually answers Some questions as to the political divide, where people go, well, why do people believe this? Half the country and half the country believe that, like these are diametrically opposed. It's because if you were to tune into legacy media, you not only would be missing half the story, you'd get the opposite of it. So here's the first clip they omitted to President Trump talking about the Democrats in relation to the shutdown. The entire reason for the shutdown right now, the standoff is the left wants to give benefits, right? Over a trillion dollars, if you add it up in benefits, to illegal aliens. They specifically excluded that here.

[Officer Jackson]

And always saying, give us an extension, we'll work it out. They've lost their way. They've become crazed lunatics. And all they have to do, Nora.

[Seth]

Is this is what they aired.

[Officer Jackson]

Let's vote.

[Nora O'Donnell]

Senate Democrats say they will vote to reopen the government if Republicans agree to extend subsidies for over 20 million Americans who use Obamacare for their health insurance.

[Officer Jackson]

They always saying, give us an extension. Well, work it out. They've lost their way. They become crazed lunatics. And all they have to do, Nora, is say, let's vote. And you can open the economy, could open up during our interview.

[Nora O'Donnell]

Is there something you can do?

[Officer Jackson]

Maybe it did.

[Nora O'Donnell]

Is there something you can do?

[Officer Jackson]

All I can do to bring this is given the facts. Here's what I can't do. I can't give them a trillion and a half dollars so that they can give welfare to people that came into our country illegally, so that prisoners and that people from mental institutions and people that are drug dealers get vast amounts of money for health care. That I can't do.

[Seth]

Wow. I understand. And there are some examples in this interview where they just omitted some portion of the interview. They have to edit it down for time. I get that. But in some cases, you get it. You go, okay, maybe this subject repeated themselves or maybe it wasn't relevant to the question asked in this case. Donald Trump is listing the reason for the shutdown. And by the way, that reflects popular opinion now, in spite of the legacy media, not because of the legacy media where they blame the Democrats for it. But you do have people in this country who go, we've shut down the government because of Republicans, because of Donald Trump. They want to shut this down. They don't know about this at all. You wonder why you have two different Americas. Well, maybe look to legacy journalism and you have an answer. Now, people may disagree with it. There may be people in this country who hear that and go, well, you know what? I do think that illegal aliens should still be eligible for snap Social Security insert program here. Then we can have a conversation on honest ground. But a lot of people don't even know this. And let me ask you this question. You can comment below. Do you think that maybe 60 minutes excluded that because they know it's a reasonable argument that would probably resonate with most people who watch it. I think so.

[Co-host/Commentator]

And there's a lot of things that you can do to cut for time.

[Seth]

Sure, I understand that.

[Co-host/Commentator]

There are other parts of that. We have to cut videos for time sometimes. Sometimes we chop the middle because it doesn't really answer the question. And then they get to it. That was the whole answer.

[Seth]

Right.

[Co-host/Commentator]

The part that they left out.

[Seth]

It's a sit down with the President of the United States during a very notable historic government shutdown over what they edited out the what, the why. That's not a small thing. That's not an accident. Here's the next one. 60 minutes deliberately omitted President Trump discussing the record reduction in record time as far as crime in these cities thanks to his deploying, and by the way, rightfully so, the National Guard.

[Nora O'Donnell]

So you're going to send the military into American cities?

[Officer Jackson]

Well, if I wanted to, I could. If I wanted to use the Insurrection act. The Insurrection act has been used routinely by presidents. And if I needed it, that would mean I could bring in the army, the Marines, I could bring in whoever I want, but I haven't chosen to use it. I hope you give me credit for that.

[Nora O'Donnell]

So you're going to send the military into American cities?

[Officer Jackson]

Well, if I wanted to, I could. If I wanted to use the Insurrection Act, The Insurrection act has been used routinely by presidents. And if I needed it, that would mean I could bring in the army, the Marines, I could bring in whoever I want, but I haven't chosen to use it. I hope you give me credit for that. One of the things I really have focused on is making Chicago great again. Making. And we're just getting started in Chicago, but what we did in D.C. where we took D.C. from being so bad to so beautiful, such good, the restaurants are booming. You can't get into a restaurant. They were closing and now they're all opening. You can't get a restaurant now. You can't get into a restaurant, but if you want to buy a restaurant or, or own a restaurant, you almost can't find it. I want to make this happen all over the country. I want it to be like that in New York, in L. A, in Chicago. I want to do it as much as can, you know, by the way, Memphis, we're there now. Memphis was a dangerous hellhole, 65% down in crime. And this is after two weeks. We can do it all over the place. It's turned out to be a new passion for me, making our city. I had no idea we could be that successful. I thought it would take a much longer period of time. Do you know, In Washington, in 12 days it was really good. In one month, it was close to perfect.

[Seth]

Now, would that be relevant? Because the argument started off right. You have to understand this. The media will their jumping off. Point is, how do we make sure that we blame Donald Trump? How do we make sure that we say his decision is wrong? So this conversation started with, hey, we don't think Donald Trump should send the National Guard. First they tried to argue it was unconstitutional. And then of course, of course it was decided that if absolutely it's constitutional, this is wrong. Right. And some people going, yeah, I think it's wrong. This is going to scare people and it's going to be worse for the cities. Aren't the results relevant? If people want to re examine their opinion, results are almost the most relevant determining factor. Wouldn't they be?

[Gerald]

You know how I know how relevant they are. The mainstream media isn't talking about it.

[Seth]

Exactly.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, they moved on.

[Gerald]

They have forgotten that troops went to D.C. right. And Memphis, by the way. No one wanted to talk about Memphis.

[Seth]

Nope.

[Gerald]

The mayor, see, the mayor or the police chief came out on television, was like, yeah, I don't really like it. But you know, he's allowed to do it and hope they do a good job and help us clean up these streets.

[Seth]

Yep. And you know what else? This shows you how easy it would be in these leftist cities, doesn't it? They actually could get violence under control. I thought that was kind of proven after Giuliani.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Right.

[Seth]

When we saw the reduction of crime in New York. But this has a multitude of examples. You're now looking basically at a meta study. Hey, we have sample sizes of several major cities. If people were aware of the reduction in crime consistently across cities, they would go, oh, turns out there's a better way to do this. Well then who was doing it the less effective way? Of course, the left. So that's edited out and you can tell me if I'm being unfair here. Check the link in the description. We always provide references so you can examine it for yourself. Here's the next one. 60 Minutes deliberately omitted President Trump. Not just recounting, but giving Very specific examples as to the lawfare that was fabricated and used against him and his family. The left wants you to move on from the story and go, oh, it was indicted, he was impeached. Well, there's some relevant context. See what they missed.

[Nora O'Donnell]

Is this retribution on your part.

[Officer Jackson]

Oh, it's the opposite. I think I've been very mild mannered. You're looking at a man who was indicted many times and I had to beat the rep. Otherwise I couldn't have run for President. They tried to get me not to run for president by going after me and by indicting me.

[Nora O'Donnell]

So far this year, the president has pardoned or shortened the sentences of more than 1,600 people. Is this retribution on the court?

[Officer Jackson]

No, it's the opposite. I think I've been very mild mannered. You're looking at a man who was indicted many times and I had to beat the rep. Otherwise I couldn't have run for President. They tried to get me not to run for president by going after me and by indicting me. But even during my term, on a perfect phone call, I got impeached. This call was perfect. Tim Scott from South Carolina, highly respected, a legitimate person, totally legit. He read the. Thank goodness we had a transcript of the call.

[Seth]

That's pivotal information.

[Officer Jackson]

I got indicted on a call on Ukraine, of all places, with the President of Ukraine. It was a perfect phone call. Tim Scott said, I just read the transcript. The president didn't do anything wrong. It was perfect. And that was the end of the indictment pretty much. But I had to go through a whole process. You know, the Democrats knew that I wasn't guilty because they didn't know that the call was. I didn't know either. The call was essentially taped. So we knew exactly what the call. When they found out that the call was taped, Nancy Pelosi went crazy, said, you made me go into this mess. She screamed at all these people that made her do it. Bad people like Schiff, et cetera, et cetera. So what happened is she went nuts. And just to conclude, and they said, let's do it anyway. They did it anyway. And I won very easily, as you know. But you can't then accuse me of weaponizing government. They were horrible human beings.

[Seth]

And this is relevant because the left, if they don't know the viewer, by the way, those who are taking the position by default, they'll think this is the first president to issue pardons. They'll think this is the first. This is unprecedented. He's a fascist. When you Understand that what is unprecedented. And I truly mean that, by the way, was the lawfare against this president. This is the first time in your lifetime where they tried to render the candidate of the opposing party ineligible.

[Commercial Announcer]

Legally.

[Seth]

Legally. Through bull crap lawfare, which we now know he's been vindicated on that. That's the first time that's ever happened. So if you're starting off, if you're jumping off point as to what is unprecedented is incorrect. Well, it makes it really easy to label someone a fascist, and it makes it really easy to label his voters or supporters as fascists. Right. That's what they do. This is part of building their foundation, building their case. Okay. Have we established now this is unprecedented? Wrong. Have we established now that he's a fascist? Wrong. That means that the people like Charlie Kirk out there are enabling a fascist. It's not that difficult of a line to draw. And the media does this all the time.

[Co-host/Commentator]

When these guys got caught and had to pay pretty hefty judgment, if I remember correctly, or a settlement for this, why would they go and do this again? To the guy?

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Not just to somebody else, but like to the guy. I guess maybe he can't sue them because it's not in a political campaign. And it would be like an illegal contribution or helping. But still, like, this is just ridiculous.

[Seth]

Yeah. How much of a contribution would it be to edit favorably Kamala Harris? Right. This is what massively. The lies that you see.

[Gerald]

What they did with Kamala, this is important to mention too. What they did with Kamala was they put answers that she had answered to different questions, but with separate questions. So they were. They were. They were mixing and they were giving complete lies to the American people. This is just omitting extra context. So I guess that's where they feel confident there.

[Seth]

It's gotta be really bizarre to be one of those people remaining, listening to legacy media. Because if you were listening to legacy media and watching legacy media and then you saw the debates, you would be surprised.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Where you go, oh, Kamala Harris must be having an off night. You would know that she's never been capable of answering basic questions. It's not a thing that she does.

[Co-host/Commentator]

No.

[Gerald]

Let me break that down for you.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That was her at her best.

[Seth]

Yes.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Her absolute best.

[Seth]

Absolute best. As a bonus, President Trump also said.

[Officer Jackson]

This Schumer is a basket case and he has nothing to lose. He's become. I just left Japan. He's become a kamikaze pilot.

[Seth]

And how right he is. Yeah. You can see the Inspiration. And to Media Matters or whatever nonprofit labeling this as the most inaccurate source in news that was not meant to be hard news. I hope you guys. I hope you're adults.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, they're not.

[Seth]

Who understand the difference.

[Gerald]

Oh, we actually got a time machine with a camera inside of a cockpit of a Zero pilot.

[Seth]

Yes, yes, yes, we did. We had a time machine and we chose to use it for that. And Schumer was the only person not excluded due to his age for the military for service in the Japanese imperialist army.

[Gerald]

Also not disqualified for his bad case.

[Seth]

Of the round eye. Right. Exactly. Now, in their defense, of course, CBS did make the entire interview available afterward online as premium content on Nora o' Donnell's only fans. So, yeah, look, they made it available eventually.

[Gerald]

Nice. Worst only fans ever.

[Seth]

I don't even.

[Josh Firestein]

This is one of those things where you say, it's free, but I go, I have to sign up. It's not free. I didn't see a nipple body workout.

[Gerald]

Her clothes are all the way on.

[Officer Jackson]

Why did I pay 9.99 for this?

[Josh Firestein]

I guess that this is. It's sort of in the line of work. You Jane Fonda. It's for bitches.

[Seth]

You don't despise the media enough. And now they want you to mistrust us. They want you to despise us. And here's the thing. There are some people on the right who are giving them a gift right now. And we'll get to that in a little bit. That's why it's very important. Yeah, you need to win. You need to live in the real world. That's why I'm not a libertarian. But you don't want to cross that line into just saying, you know what, the ends justify the means. Let's lie just as badly as they do. That is what sets you apart. I do believe that conservatives, that those who put America first, nationalists, we revile dishonesty, we revile the duplicity that you see from the left. So we don't need to do that. The truth is strong enough. And I was actually gonna try and lie to you in this segment, but as a trick. We thought better as a trick. And then I realized the numbers just wouldn't make sense. So I was gonna give you these numbers and just not use the word Christians so that you would think, oh, Palestine. But then I realized, like, the numbers are too big. Cause there are far too many Christians who are being persecuted and killed and their churches burned down where you wouldn't be able to fit that number in Palestine. So 2024. Here are the figures before we get to Nigeria, but a lot of people don't, don't pay this any mind and it's, it's pretty important.

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[Seth]

365 million Christians across the world are subjected to very high levels of persecution, including, by the way, torture and execution. That's one in seven worldwide. That's one in five in Africa alone. And in 2024, over 14,000, almost 15,000 places of Christian worship were attacked. So for the past two years, you haven't really heard a lot about this from the media. You probably would think, hey, the largest group of people being persecuted in the world right now would be the Palestinians, if we're going to use that term, even though they're not really a thing. Israel is on trial for genocide at the International Court of Justice.

[Gerald]

Free.

[Seth]

Free. Free.

[Officer Jackson]

Pales.

[Seth]

Stop killing children. Stop the war.

[Gerald]

We're going to keep fighting until the genocide ends and until Palestine is free.

[Nora O'Donnell]

Palestinians pray for an end to the war that followed, killing more than 66,000 in Gaza. Many pro Palestinian protesters insist their movement is peaceful.

[Seth]

Violence has no place on this movement. Okay, terrorist 80s era. Patrick Dempsey. Some of the incidents that has happened. Free Palestine. Free Palestine.

[Gerald]

Dead ass, bro.

[Seth]

Dead ass. He means that.

[Nora O'Donnell]

The protests calling for colleges to divest from companies with ties to Israel now spreading to other campuses. Today, at least 45 people arrested at Yale University. At NYU, a standoff with police.

[Seth]

A gray landscape of rubble is now all that remains of Gaza. Almost the entire strip has been razed. And now, just to be clear, of course, as long as people keep it peaceful, they have the right to protest. They have the right to make their voices heard. Just want to be clear about that. But let's also be honest here. The selective outrage often doesn't make sense. If you go look at the plight of these Christians, look at the persecution of these Christians, you can even go back to when we had refugees, for example, from Syria. You would think that Christian refugees from Syria back then, right, who were being burned alive and thrown off buildings, they would be the first ones granted entry. They made up less than 1% of refugees coming from these countries. It's selective based on one criteria. Are these people the oppressed? And for them, it's not oppressed. They don't even mean it as a moral judgment. They mean, are they less successful. In other words, you could have a moral billionaire, a moral front runner, a moral government. You could have an oppressed evil person. They would side with that person. That's how you get people waving both LGBTQ AIP rainbow flags and Palestinian flags side by side, even though they don't match up. It's as silly as the coexist bumper sticker that crescent moon wants to eat all the other letters. It's why they never mentioned something like Nigeria. And President Trump dropped this on Truth Social this week, and it's been obviously making a lot of waves.

[Josh Firestein]

He wrote, if the Nigerian government continues to allow the killing of Christians, the USA will immediately stop all aid and assistance to Nigeria and may very well go into that now disgraced country, quote, guns a blazing. I'll let you interpret that as you will to completely wipe out the Islamic terrorists who are committing these horrible atrocities. I am hereby instructing our department of War. War, and that's what it is. To prepare for possible action. If we attack, it will be fast. Vicious. So vicious and sweet. Both vicious and sweet.

[Gerald]

It's my favorite kind of candy.

[Josh Firestein]

Like sweet and sour, little spice, little not very nice. Just like the terrorist thugs attack our cherished Christians. Warning the Nigerian government better move fast. And I know that many of you run very fast.

[Seth]

And Nigerian, as I understand, is already preparing their air force for counter operations. You don't scare me. Nigerian Air Force, baby steps, okay? It's a process. So let me give you the reaction from the left, Adam Tooze, a Columbia University professor. He wrote this arbitrary intrusion into the internal affairs of Nigeria, a 21st century Goliath in the Service of Christian nationalist zealotry and grandstanding must count as yet another low point in this phase of US History. Now, I understand and I think I would largely agree with. As much as it breaks your heart, it's probably not our job to go into Nigeria, but people like this want us to help establish a two state solution in Israel. Either we need to withdraw, let the world hash out their own crap until it affects us, or you need to be consistent in your interventionism. And the left never is. And then there are quite a few on the right who frankly have irreconcilable positions. Here's from The Daily Beast. Trump 79 threatens war on crucial US ally in Mad truth social rant.

[Commercial Announcer]

Crucial.

[Seth]

That's what I was gonna say.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I mean, I'm sure there are ways.

[Josh Firestein]

That what I think most important ally. I think crucial. You probably think maybe Taiwan, maybe Japan, Nigeria. Daily Beast says, oh no, what will we do?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, I think we're misusing that word.

[Seth]

And here's what's funny, the Nigerian reaction. So here's a reaction from one of their. From their government which is they'll take our help, right? They'll take our help, but. But nothing is happening. What he's saying is not true. But we'll take help, but help for nothing.

[Gerald]

Nigeria said on Sunday it would welcome U. S help fighting Islamist insurgents, but only if its territorial integrity is respected. Nigeria denies all claims of Christian persecution. Speaking in Washington.

[Seth]

Leave a little room.

[Commercial Announcer]

Daniel Bola said outdated reports were being.

[Seth]

A hat rack at his door.

[Commercial Announcer]

Said the situation is an opportunity to.

[Gerald]

Engage the US in finding common ground. Stop at the men's warehouse at the airport or notion that there is a.

[Seth]

Christian persecution or genocide in Nigeria.

[Gerald]

Is the northern Nigeria chairman of the country's Christian association. He supports U.S. intervention over religious violence but said he opposed any foreign influence on the country.

[Seth]

Increased leadership.

[Gerald]

What some of us will not support is anybody deciding who should be our leader.

[Seth]

It's purely a Nigerian thing.

[Gerald]

But if they are reminding us that what is accepted in our constitution, what is acceptable in other standards, we should do it.

[Seth]

Yeah, I understand maybe 20% of what he just said. But here's my issue. If we go in and we help, we then decide the rules. How about that? Okay, that's it. If you want our help, all right, then you accept our law as the law of the land we choose. Why? Because you guys haven't figured it out? That's my opinion. It's terrible. My heart goes out to everyone who's being massacred, but it's not our job to go in and fix it for you and then let you screw it up again. Just insert a couple of decades here.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Gerald]

I mean, we know what we're doing. We have sinks in every house.

[Seth]

Yes, pretty much. Yeah. And roads. And roads.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That's a big one.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yep.

[Seth]

And roads, electricity.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You know, they have some of that in some places.

[Seth]

Drink in some places. But not all places.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Not all.

[Seth]

Not all places.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Not all at all.

[Seth]

Nicki Minaj, surprisingly often the voice of reason these days.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Weird wrote.

[Seth]

Reading this made me feel a deep sense of gratitude. We can live in a country where. Where we freely worship God. No group should ever be persecuted for practicing their religion. We don't have to share the same beliefs in order for us to respect each other. Thank you to the president and his team for taking this seriously. In contrast to Cardi B. Who said.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Is that her new song on camera?

[Gerald]

How do you spell that? Thp.

[Seth]

I think it's spelt the same as wap.

[Gerald]

Just played it for you.

[Seth]

But Nicki Minaj even offered President Trump a guest spot in her upcoming rerele.

[Josh Firestein]

That black can sing.

[Seth]

So back to the atrocities. This year there have been 7,000 Christians killed in Nigeria. That's 35 per day.

[Gerald]

Wow.

[Seth]

Think about that. Since 2009, 50 to 100,000 Christians have been killed and it's hard to get the real numbers because the Nigerians not known for their great record keeping. No. And here is what that has looked like in practice. Obviously. Fair warning. Geez, it's awful.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. You know, I'm glad we're not seeing people fall down, but they.

[Gerald]

Well far away.

[Co-host/Commentator]

No, I know. That's what I mean.

[Seth]

It is the same method of attack that was conducted is the killing, the maiming of people, slaughtering them, and burning of their houses and their foodstuffs and properties.

[Gerald]

Please stand wrong to save our life in Nigeria. They are killing Christians in Nigeria. Massacre Christians.

[Seth]

And I remember you had a slight disagreement with me and, and, and not to start an arc, but when I said the only way this works is if you kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That's what I mean.

[Seth]

You can't have leaders say nothing's going on here. You can't have leaders who allow Christians to be persecuted and slaughtered and send money or at that point even send bombs. You have to take out the people who preclude their citizens from being able to convert of their own free will. It doesn't work otherwise. Now, unfortunately, we would be accused of colonialism, but it doesn't work. It's okay, you dead leadership that's failed the people. Domestic terrorists in this country who are killing Christians dead. And we're going to install in positions of leadership those who are on board with Western civilization and Christianity. Otherwise you will end up at the exact same impasse in a decade, could be two years, could be 20 years from now. That's how this goes.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I don't disagree. I just think we have a really, like, you can't nation build. Like, it just doesn't work.

[Seth]

Right. So all in or out.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah, exactly. I feel like it's one of those things where we go in and do whatever we want to do to protect Christians and then we go and we're done. And if you guys. Whatever we want to do, that could be nothing right now. That could be like, hey, listen, you guys have to figure this out. Or it could be arming militias that are going against those people just to give them some security or whatever. I think there are a lot of ways to do it. We're just bad at nation building and we've never converted by the sword. It just isn't a thing. And I don't know that it would work.

[Josh Firestein]

No, but.

[Seth]

Right, I understand that. But right now, people are being prevented from converting by the sword. That's the problem. That's the problem. Christian missionaries and Christian societies, they were really acting more so, as in most cases, not all, as a shield, going, all right, we're going to allow you the chance to accept Christ at this point. And then you look at those societies, there were plenty of people who didn't. Islam goes, we are only going to give you the opportunity to convert to Islam at the tip of a sword. But if these people can't convert again at the tip of. They're being prevented at the tip of a sword, we have to remove that sword. That requires a sword of our own, and that requires removing those people with swords. I don't think that people really know what that looks like, and I don't think that Americans have the stomach for it. So for me, it's either we're all in or we're all out. Right now, I think the only realistic approach is all out. I don't think that this goes well unless you go in, kill a lot of people, and only allow leaders who are sympathetic to Western civilization and Christianity. Otherwise, I just think it's a turnstile. And I will say Secretary of, well, the Department of War, Pete Hegseth, being a very good teammate, said, yes, sir. Yes, President. The killing of innocent Christians in Nigeria Must stop. He said that they were ready for action. But I will tell you this, and I appreciate it, it won't work. It won't work because a major issue, and this is actually, according to Sarah Adams, who's done some good reporting on this, is it's a Fulani. That's a group of Muslim herders. And she wrote they're responsible for roughly 55% of the Christian massacres. The actual Islamists like ISIS and Boko Haram are less than 8% of the killings, so they would have to be the target. Many of them live with their families in mixed settled communities, so the strikes would cause massive collateral damage. They aren't hanging out inside of terrorist camps like ISIS does in a war zone. No matter what the DoD says, you can't bomb your way out of this problem. And it's true. It's a sticky situation. I think it's good to raise awareness.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yes.

[Seth]

Because Christians are still far more persecuted in this world right now than Muslims.

[Gerald]

So this isn't happening by the government. It's happening by these Fulani, which sounds like Fugazi.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It does.

[Seth]

Yeah, they are. And the government stands idly by and then claims nothing is happening, which is effectively giving them cover.

[Gerald]

Do you think there's any hope to that threat that he made about cutting off all aid? Yeah, you know, I'll help to Nigeria until the government steps in and takes it. Takes care of it.

[Seth]

I think we. I, that's a part that I would agree with. I think we need to cut off all aid to Africa, period. Because think about it.

[Gerald]

Let them handle their own business. Yep. Is what I say. If you're. Hey, if you're a Christian, you don't want massacred. Maybe you, maybe you join that Nigerian army and you go out there and take care of these fugazes.

[Seth]

Yes, exactly. But think about that leader who just said, you know, oh, sure, we welcome the aid, but nothing is happening. Well, just remember, the aid is going through that guy, that government.

[Gerald]

We've made Africa worse in his nice new bowler's hat.

[Seth]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Gerald]

Is that where our money went? With your checkered shirt and your hat.

[Seth]

Guarantee you those in the government live like kings. Where many African continents. We covered the live aid. Remember that famous concert? That was a scam. You are enabling these governments. As long as the corruption is still there, giving them more money only exacerbates the problem.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Right.

[Seth]

So I'd say start with that. We're pulling everything out, then see what happens. And then if it's some kind of intervention that the American people support and we think makes sense. And it really has to be in our national interest. Fine. Outside of that, there are atrocities across the world. It's terrible. My heart goes out to them. I'm glad that there is awareness now of this, but I don't support any type of intervention. I do support just withdrawing our funds until they get it right. Also, when you want to make a.

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[Seth]

Check back in with the Nigerian Air Force. Apparently they're making progress. Do you think they just got their first chopper and didn't read the instruction manual at all?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Also, like, he didn't make any effort to not be on them anymore. Like, oh, I better take back off.

[Gerald]

No, it looked more like a miscommunication. Like they were like, hey, we're. We're landing the plane or landing the helicopter, right? No, no, we're gonna fast rope. Okay, we're landing it.

[Seth]

No, I'm going to land it. What he say? Time for you to land. Okay, jump. It will be okay.

[Gerald]

Like at the point. At the point that they jumped out on the ropes. Even tossed out there, it was too late. Yeah, you tossed out the ropes too late already.

[Seth]

Has to be some really soft ground.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Else that first guy is.

[Seth]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's a mix of fast rope and.

[Seth]

Land on you guys. It's the cradle of civilization. You sons of.

[Gerald]

I'm sorry, I forgot you friends and all that.

[Seth]

It's 2025 there too. Not really. Well, yeah, when people say colonialism, Colonialism it's like, okay, so the flip side of that is giving a ton of money. Where in some of these countries, 60% of all of their revenue collected generated came from United States subsidies, aid, and we let them run it themselves. It's the opposite of colonialism.

[Gerald]

Here's a million dollars.

[Seth]

Thank you for the kindling. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Warmth. So what do you guys do you understand? You understand the idea of going in and nation Bill. It doesn't work. And that's why I say unless it serves our national interest. But we give them money and they are free to do whatever they want with it. They've never gotten it right.

[Gerald]

The only way it would work is actual colonial.

[Seth]

Colonialism. Yeah, yeah, Yep.

[Gerald]

Or imperialism going in.

[Seth]

That's the way it would work.

[Gerald]

Setting up, you know, setting up shop.

[Seth]

Yeah, Yep. Colony. Yep.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Wasn't such a bad idea. I mean, listen, there was some stuff that happened. I'll give you that.

[Gerald]

Well, the British did it. Did an okay job at it, you know, trade routes. And they put the people of the country to work, made them rich, made them successful, and then they bounced real quick.

[Seth]

And then those countries went to shit pretty much. What do you think happens if the United States didn't come into North America? You sure about that? That horseback peace loving culture of Native Americans. It looks like that without the chopper. So.

[Officer Jackson]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Thank God.

[Gerald]

Isn't it fun that we named all of our helicopters after Native Americans?

[Seth]

It is fun.

[Gerald]

Apache, Chinook.

[Seth]

I wonder if there are. I wonder if there's any. What else do we have?

[Commercial Announcer]

The Cobra.

[Seth]

That's not.

[Gerald]

Was Cobra.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's just.

[Seth]

It's a snake. That's a marine one.

[Gerald]

The other ones are army.

[Seth]

Yeah. Although interesting.

[Gerald]

Kiowa. Kiowa was another helicopter.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Is it?

[Gerald]

Yeah, it's a Kiowa. All the army helicopters are named after native tribes.

[Seth]

Yeah, I haven't seen that. Well, you pretty much just covered like 2/3 of the Black Hills.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah. And we can take you all out with one of the helicopters.

[Seth]

I was named after my friend the Apache because he sounded like. He too sounded like.

[Josh Firestein]

The name is app.

[Seth]

We need peed down. Kiowa.

[Officer Jackson]

Oh, there you go.

[Seth]

All right.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Dude, that's like old school 80s. Like.

[Gerald]

And then there's a. There's another helicopter. Where I forget what the actual name is, but the nomenclature. But they call it little bird.

[Seth]

Do they?

[Gerald]

Which is in the tribe. But it sounds like a Native American name.

[Seth]

Yeah, well, let's. That's one of those ironic nicknames because it's not that little. But it is so we call it little bird because it's big.

[Gerald]

Yeah, that's what they would do.

[Seth]

We like to have a laugh here in our tribe.

[Gerald]

That's them laughing. I guess I thought it was a chant.

[Seth]

That's what it is. You never perform at a Native American comedy club. You hit a.

[Gerald]

I heard they pay in drink tickets, though. That's Lakota as well. Yeah.

[Seth]

Oh, yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Oh, okay.

[Seth]

That's true. I'll be performing at the Canarsie Reservation Casino. And it's a two Windex minimum. So please.

[Gerald]

These jokes are firewater.

[Seth]

Yes, I'll have a huff. Paint thinner on the beach, please. All right, let's go on to the next one here. Last week, Tucker Carlson. This has lit the Internet ablaze. Tucker Carlson hosted Nick Fuentes on his show. The interview has over 5 million plays, 5 million views as of this time. Both controversial figures in their own right. And of course, there were plenty of people who were unhappy about it. And this is, again, this is trending everywhere. And people are now questioning, hey, is Tucker Carlson maga? And I think that's the wrong approach here. I think the real through line is, hey, we need to contrast truth versus falsehoods. And I think it's really important whenever you're covering these topics, and I mean, whichever side you line up with, don't use victim words. Disgusting, vile, offensive, vermin. Yeah, they said it. Address the issue. And I think that it's a valid conversation to have. There are certainly some legitimate criticisms to make, but the approach from those reacting on the right I think is also pretty destructive. It's time for clean truth. So the claim that you are seeing from some people right now on the right who are using the term woke, right. Which is in and of itself absolutely asinine and makes them look dumb. And I will say this because some people in the montage you're about to watch, some of them have been on this show. Some of them I like. Some of them I agree with on some issues personally, and I disagree with them on a whole lot. So I don't really have a home in this one, which kind of sucks. Trying to call balls and strikes. But their argument is that the real problem right now is Tucker and his ilk are not maga. I see somebody with a sign said Tucker is not maga. I guess I gotta put his name out there. That's not maga.

[Gerald]

Tucker Carlson is the most dangerous anti Semite in America.

[Seth]

Make no mistake, Tucker is not maga. You don't get to claim your MAGA and America first when you're lining up with the Marxists and the Islamists and Hamas and the terrorists.

[Josh Firestein]

That's not America First.

[Seth]

That's sick.

[Gerald]

Lot of people online talking about how the right is trying to cancel Tucker Carlson. First of all, this is 100% accurate. Tucker is not MAGA.

[Seth]

Okay. I don't know if you know this. I'm quite anti cancel. And there's a difference, though, between when people say cancel, cancel culture, which was a term that was used quite a bit, where that's coming from those in positions of power who are deliberately precluding people because of a specific point of view or political persuasion. I know that that is not the same thing as people en masse deciding that they don't want to support someone and having a problem with it. That's closer to a boycott. And on the flip side, a boycott. And I understand people having disagreements. I have a lot of disagreements with Tucker Carlson. We've gone through them. But let me first clarify what should not be a disqualifying factor. And I don't see some of these people there understanding this. Interviewing controversial figures should not be disqualifying at all. Whether it's Nick Fuentes, whether it's Vladimir Putin, whether it's Sergei Lavrov, whether it's Dugan, who we interviewed, Jeffrey Sachs or Clint Howard. This. Well, the lady nun.

[Gerald]

I was like, wait, what?

[Seth]

These are not disqualifying factors. Nor are bow ties. Or recently becoming enamored with fly fishing or even putting bow ties on the fish that you fly. I mean, it's off putting.

[Gerald]

That's cute.

[Seth]

That's where the bow tie went. Can you go back?

[Co-host/Commentator]

I always. I missed that last step of tying the bow tie. Just need to look at it one more time.

[Seth]

I think it's a clip on. He just clipped it to the gills.

[Gerald]

It's a better method.

[Seth]

And by the way, I forgot to tell you, best way to stay in touch. Download the Rumble app. Follow me there. That's where we stream. We are beholden to viewers like you, so we can cover this as. As honestly as we want. Let me then move on to. Unless anyone disagrees, that should never be disqualifying because I would be disqualified.

[Co-host/Commentator]

No, not at all.

[Seth]

Anyone seeking truth would be disqualified. I've had people on this show who hold abhorrent viewpoints and have tried to argue my point with them.

[Co-host/Commentator]

You know who wanted to cancel Tucker for going to interview Vladimir Putin? It was the people on the left initially.

[Seth]

Right?

[Co-host/Commentator]

Right. So let's not line up with them in the Idea of doing an interview with somebody controversial being a cancelable offense. Now, content matters.

[Seth]

Well, the left did it with Donald Trump meeting with Kim Jong Un. Right. Being the first president to cross that.

[Gerald]

Line, closing up the dictators.

[Seth]

Right. Now, there's a huge difference between meeting with dictators or interviewing dictators and cozying up, partying, or giving them a layup, a softball. Right. So that's not. I'm always very uncomfortable with people making that argument. And I see a lot of people saying, he's platforming these people. You sound like the left. Now, let me put forward what I think should make one skeptical. If you get to that point where you are, for example, running interference, pushing propaganda for known foreign adversaries, like espousing propaganda regarding Russian grocery stores.

[Narrator/Reporter]

So we thought it would be interesting to take a look at a contemporary modern day 2024 Russian grocery store two years into sanctions. Sanctions.

[Seth]

Here we go. All right.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Here we go. So I guess you put in 10 rubles here and you get it back when you put the cart.

[Gerald]

Oh, he discovered Aldi.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Narrator/Reporter]

So it's free. But there's an incentive to return it.

[Seth]

Wait till he sees Trader Joes. Come on.

[Gerald]

Trader Joseph Stalin.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Unicorn and Minnie Mill.

[Officer Jackson]

All right.

[Narrator/Reporter]

And we all came in around 400 bucks.

[Seth]

About 400 bucks.

[Narrator/Reporter]

It was a hundred and four dollars US here. And that's when you start to realize that ideology maybe doesn't matter as much as you thought. Corruption. If you have people's standard living and you tank it through filth and crime and inflation and they literally can't buy the. The groceries they want, at that point, maybe it matters less what you say or whether you're a good person or a bad person. You're wrecking people's lives in their country, and that's what our leaders have done to us.

[Seth]

Well, what about Russian leaders? Literally imprisoning people for holding the wrong political perspectives? Or the fact that 60%. 60% of all Russians spend at least half of their income on food because of how poor they are.

[Gerald]

But they get their 10 rubles back.

[Seth]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gerald]

When they return their cart.

[Seth]

And does. Tuck, Tucker's a smart guy. Yeah. You've never heard me question his intelligence. And by the way, I've spent quite a bit of time with Tucker. Used to have a segment on Fox News Sundays where it was a debate with Bob Menendez, the senator, disgraced senator, former senator, his daughter Alicia Menendez, and sometimes Tucker Carlson, moderator. He's smart enough to know that that is not only half the story, but it's misleading. It's dishonest. I have no problem with him interviewing Vladimir Putin. I'm skeptical when I see someone spouting the talking points that Putin would like that are lies, that are dishonest.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Is that fair? Can you guys comment? Let me know if I'm trying to be as fair as humanly possible.

[Josh Firestein]

No problem.

[Gerald]

Interview is good. Yeah, I think that's important. But addendums. Yeah, geez, I don't think we need that.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's propaganda essentially. Right. And going around and smelling bread, making everything look great and saying, you know, corruption.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Commentator]

It's like that's kind of the ball game, Tucker. You can make things cheap and almost free to your population. That's not the issue that we have with a Vladimir Putin or Mamdani or anybody else of that ilk. It's the, I don't know, mass murder, taking over of industries, silencing people, putting them off in gulags. All of the things that we really care about, like, you know, life being the very first one that gets taken from you if you're not in favor with the regime. Okay, yeah, that's the problem.

[Seth]

And by the way, we can hold those views and still think we shouldn't be sending money to Ukraine.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Right.

[Seth]

And that's why you'll never hear Tucker Carlson want to have a conversation with yours truly. Because you can't say that we're in the tank for Ukraine. You can't say that we believe that we should be sending an open ended check to Israel. But that's how they often tar the names of people who oppose them. That's not the case here. And then people respond and going, I can't believe that he platformed insert whatever person here. They're playing right into the hands. And I just don't like seeing the right becoming fractured because of disagreements. Very similar to the left. You shouldn't platform this person. You shouldn't talk. If Hitler was alive today and I could get an interview, you bet your ass I would do it. Same thing with Stalin. Same thing with Mao and I can't stand any of them. You wouldn't hear me saying, and by the way, Hitler has actually made Germany pretty good. Or Stalin has actually he did a great job. At least he made sure that Hitler didn't. In other words, insert whichever villain here.

[Gerald]

But when you go to the grocery store, there's no Jews.

[Seth]

Yeah, exactly.

[Gerald]

But have you seen their train station?

[Seth]

Yeah, their train station.

[Co-host/Commentator]

I mean, the autobahn.

[Seth]

Here's another example where I think, you know, it should Raise some eyebrows if for example, you want to interview an imam. Great, I did it. Remember, I did it at your old storage unit. Chaudhry. Yeah, Imam Chaudhry who literally said that I should be executed. That's true.

[Co-host/Commentator]

On air. I didn't disagree with him on everything.

[Seth]

And I remember Gerald going, did you just hear that? I said, yeah, yeah. He pretty. He just. He just said I should be killed.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Pretty much.

[Seth]

Now I disagree with him.

[Co-host/Commentator]

He didn't change your mind.

[Seth]

But if I had interviewed him and then simped form and be like, oh, by the way, he's right, I should be killed because I'm one of the decadent Westerners, then okay. It should give you pause if someone simps for Sharia law.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Sharia law is bad, Seth. I don't know if you've heard that it's bad. It's worse than what's happening in New York and Detroit. It's just bad.

[Gerald]

Correct.

[Josh Firestein]

I don't know why.

[Narrator/Reporter]

You should know, Seth, that the real danger is Sharia law. Sharia law. And you can tell when you go to a place like Abu Dhabi or Riyadh, like, oh man, I hope we don't ever wind up with a society like this.

[Gerald]

Now do Canada rape rate of 0.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Where you leave your keys in your Lamborghini and don't ever worry about it being stolen. And you know, if people want to get wasted, they do it at home.

[Seth]

You know what I mean? You guys caught that, right? You said a rape rate of zero.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Do you know the statistical likelihood of there being a rape rate of zero in an Islamic country? Ironically, it's zero.

[Co-host/Commentator]

But I think it is proportional to the population of goats though, so.

[Seth]

Well, well, you know, I mean, I.

[Gerald]

Think technically in any civilization, even a Christian nation, you're going to get a 0 rate anyway. Yeah, I mean a zero rate of a zero rate.

[Seth]

Yeah. They have a rape survivor rape exist rate. Yes. Rate of zero. Yes, exactly.

[Co-host/Commentator]

That's true.

[Seth]

They don't really have rape kits. They just have a guilty button for the lady.

[Gerald]

But they do have rape kits. You buy them in the store and it helps you to rape.

[Seth]

Yes, it does.

[Gerald]

Yeah, it's like a magic rape, you.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Know, only take two of your friends with you because it has to, what is it, three or more witnesses to have a rape?

[Seth]

And here's the thing. What gives me more positive is that he's not platforming someone who could question that. In other words, there are plenty of people out there who would say actually the rape rate is not zero. And let me explain to you why you won't see that interview. It's not because he platformed someone who I don't like. It's because he platformed some ideas that simply aren't true. I think that's where you can issue your legitimate criticism. I don't know why those on the right who are opposing this are unable to do that. I frankly think that some of them may not be all that smart. And I do know, by the way that we have to continue. We're going to continue the segment on Rumble Premium. If you are not a member, please consider clicking that button. Joining up. It's $99 a year. You get this wonderful hand etched mug or you can try it for $9 a month. You get 100% more. Show a bunch of other shows. It's your best one stop shop and it's 100% ad free. Hey, we are funded by viewers like you and we never want to be in the position where we simply have to parrot what it is you want to hear. We make our references available and we try to be as transparent as possible. By the way, same thing with foundation. Go to foundationdaily.com it's transparent certificates of analysis. Everything listed on the label is what will be going into your body. Let's continue with the next example. I would criticize this idea, this notion that the Islamic, the Muslim interpretation of submitting to God is in any way good.

[Narrator/Reporter]

I remember after 911 when I was like, you know all about attacking Islam. I knew nothing about Islam. I'm not Muslim by the way.

[Seth]

I don't want to. What's that sound? That's the sound of Downy unstoppable scent.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Beads going into your washing machine and.

[Seth]

Giving your clothes freshness that lasts all day long.

[Commercial Announcer]

There it is again.

[Seth]

It's like music to your ears or.

[Co-host/Commentator]

More like music to your nose.

[Seth]

That freshness is irresistible. Let's get a Downy Unstoppables bottle shake. And now a sniff solo.

[Co-host/Commentator]

Nice.

[Seth]

With Downy Unstoppables you just toss wash wow for all day fresh.

[Gerald]

Me wr.

[Nora O'Donnell]

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[Gerald]

My kid was so bad and the smell never leaves. I don't know what to do. I'm always in the dark.

[Seth]

The SWE in dead shark smells like.

[Nora O'Donnell]

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[Gerald]

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[Gerald]

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