Why Track Meets are No Longer Safe

Summary

Podcast Summary: Louder with Crowder – Episode: Why Track Meets are No Longer Safe

Introduction

In the April 3, 2025 episode of "Louder with Crowder," host Steven Crowder delves into a variety of pressing topics ranging from economic policies to societal issues. The episode, titled "Why Track Meets are No Longer Safe," features insightful discussions, expert opinions, and engaging segments that provide listeners with a comprehensive analysis of current events. Notably, the episode includes a guest appearance by Viva Fry, further enriching the conversation with diverse perspectives.

Key Discussions

1. Liberation Day and President Trump's Tariffs

   • Liberation Day Announcement: Steven Crowder opens the discussion by addressing the recent announcement of President Trump's Liberation Day, which introduces significant tariffs affecting multiple nations.

   • Impact Analysis: The conversation explores the winners and losers of the tariff implementation. While China is identified as the primary loser due to the increased tariffs, Mexico emerges as an unexpected beneficiary, attributed to its adept handling of the new trade dynamics.

   • Economic Insights: Crowder emphasizes the complexity of the tariff calculations, suggesting that the media has oversimplified the economic repercussions. He states, “It's not just about the actual tariffs; it's about the trade deficit as well” (35:24).

2. Tragic Stabbing Incident in Texas

   • Incident Overview: The episode shifts focus to a tragic stabbing that occurred at a high school track meet in Frisco, Texas. Seventeen-year-old Austin Metcalf was fatally stabbed by fellow student Carmelo Anthony.

   • Media Coverage Critique: Crowder criticizes the media's handling of the incident, noting a significant discrepancy in how similar events are reported based on the race of the perpetrator and victim. He remarks, "The media often labels these incidents differently depending on the involved races, which distorts the public perception” (20:16).

   • Social Implications: The host highlights the broader societal implications, questioning the role of racial dynamics in such violent acts and the subsequent media portrayal. “We do need to have an honest conversation about this, especially as white Americans have been portrayed as the greatest domestic terror threat” (22:00).

3. Media Bias and Racial Narratives

   • Selective Reporting: Crowder points out the selective nature of mainstream media in reporting violent incidents, especially those involving interracial conflicts. He contrasts headlines from different news outlets, illustrating how the race of the perpetrator and victim influences media framing.

   • Statistical Realities: Referencing FBI data, Crowder asserts, "Black offenders are two and a half times more likely to commit a crime against a white person than the reverse” (28:00). He argues that the lack of comprehensive reporting perpetuates racial biases and hinders societal understanding.

   • Historical Context: The discussion touches upon historical tensions and their modern-day reflections, urging listeners to recognize and address underlying racial dynamics without exacerbating divisions.

4. Sex Puppets Segment

   • Humorous Interlude: The podcast incorporates a lighter segment discussing a bizarre news story from Germany, where authorities mistook a sex puppet for a murder victim. The humorous dialogue among the hosts provides comic relief amidst the serious topics.

   • Cultural Commentary: Through satire, Crowder critiques societal issues related to technology and human relationships, lightly touching upon the rise of sex dolls as a technological advancement and its implications.

5. Conversation with Viva Fry

   • International Perspectives: Viva Fry joins the discussion to provide insights on Canada's media landscape and political climate. She criticizes the government's control over media narratives and the upcoming electoral strategies aimed at defunding state-funded media.

   • Trade Relations: Together with Crowder and other hosts, Fry analyzes the impact of Trump's tariffs on international trade, particularly focusing on how these measures affect countries like Vietnam, which have become alternative manufacturing hubs to China.

   • Future Implications: The conversation speculates on the long-term effects of reciprocal tariffs, including potential shifts in global alliances and economic stability. Fry expresses concerns about Canada's evolving stance and its potential adversarial relationship with the United States (55:39).

Notable Quotes

• Steven Crowder on Media Bias:
  “We do need to have an honest conversation about this, especially as white Americans have been portrayed as the greatest domestic terror threat” (22:00).

• Crowder on Tariff Calculations:
  “It's not just about the actual tariffs; it's about the trade deficit as well” (35:24).

• Viva Fry on Canadian Media Control:
  “Corporate media is government media. In Canada, you've got CBC, CTV News, Global News—all government-funded directly or indirectly” (58:05).

Concluding Thoughts

The episode of "Louder with Crowder" effectively navigates through complex issues such as international trade policies, media bias, and societal violence with a blend of serious analysis and humor. Steven Crowder, alongside his co-hosts and guest Viva Fry, offers a critical perspective on how governmental decisions and media narratives shape public perception and international relations. The insightful discussions encourage listeners to engage in thoughtful discourse, challenging prevailing narratives and advocating for transparency and fairness in both media reporting and economic policies.

Conclusion

"Why Track Meets are No Longer Safe" serves as a compelling episode that addresses significant contemporary issues with depth and clarity. By intertwining economic analysis with societal critiques, Crowder provides a platform for meaningful conversation, urging listeners to question and understand the multifaceted dynamics influencing today's world.

Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

Welcome to the lineup. Exclusive here on Rumble. That means it's 11:00am Eastern, 10 God's time central. I'm on Godstime. So that's us. And then Tim Poole is going to be after us. We're actually going to have Viva Fry on the show today, who is actually up at 3pm God's time. So 4pm Eastern. Guys, don't correct me. You don't need to correct me right away. So welcome Bongino Army. And of course, those people coming in from Vince, which comes from the, you know, the romance language is vincente, which means that's, I think it translates to that's not a rug. Today we're going to be discussing Liberation Day, President Trump's tariffs. Who are the winners? Who are the losers? There's a lot of speculation out there, and the math is a little more complicated than how it was initially presented, but it's actually pretty easy to figure out. Also, there was a really tragic stabbing that took place in my home state here in Texas, and there's a media blackout on it, though it's trending on social media. That shows you that sort of chasm between what affects people or what matters to people versus what the media chooses to cover. And they don't want you to acknowledge that there's perhaps a racial component or dynamic, but there is, and that's why we're not on YouTube. We can discuss it today. Also, a German cop found a murder victim, but it's not what you think. We'll talk about that and more. Enjoy this. First, protests continue across the country this evening. And we want you to know, of course, that though there are some individual protesters who are agitated, it is not the norm. These protests are largely peaceful. Many people look back at the demonstrations at Selma and wonder, what would I have done? Would I have marched across that bridge or would I be standing on the other side? Well, I have an answer for you, and my answer is a question. What are you doing now? Now, Tanya, how would you describe the attitude on the ground? There we go. Now live to our woman in the field, Tanya Franks. Tanya? Well, Chris, first, I want to say that was inspiring as far as the attitude on the ground. You know, folks are entirely peaceful, but far from happy. Just imagine if every day when you left home, you didn't know whether you'd be coming back.

[Dave Landau]

Black power.

[Steven Crowder]

You might be a little upset, too. Well, Tonya, in my line of work, that's always a possibility. But I know that many in the audience might not understand what that's like. No, Tanya, Hold. Was that a man on. Was that a man on fire? Hard to tell with the flames. Chris might have been a really muscular lady. So, Tanya, what are the people on the ground saying there?

[Josh Firestein]

Yeah, we gonna burn this mother down.

[Steven Crowder]

313, right? CVS is open for business. Y'all take what you need. A fitting tribute to the memory of George Floyd. Chris. Yo, who that? Yo, that. That's a motherfucker. Charged evening to be certain. Now, some people are asking, why is this happening now? Haven't things gotten better? But there are still persistent and pervasive inequities in this country, and these protests are a reaction to that. And aside from a string of isolated incidents, very small things have been pretty peaceful, very tame. Any final thoughts, Tanya? Oh, hello, sir. What's your name? I'm sorry, that was unfair. Allow me to reframe the question. Good. Sir, where, might I ask, is Tanya? Oh, she did.

[Josh Firestein]

Yo, yo, I got an Apple watch, dog.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, the language of the unheard. We'll be right back. Click Rumble Premium and join now for 99 annually, or 9.99amonth, to get the entirely ad free experience and an ever expanding roster of content creators and free speech. Question of the day. Did any of you sleep last night? Because I don't know if there's a pressure change or something, but I went out to dinner. It was a birthday dinner with family, and I never fell asleep. And then my father came, everyone who was there, and said, hey, did you have trouble sleeping? I said, yeah. They said, we never fell asleep and we didn't eat anything out of the ordinary. It was just, you know, we had a nice steak dinner for a birthday.

[Dave Landau]

Somebody put drugs in your food?

[Steven Crowder]

I think I was dosed.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, I took a. I popped a fentanyl after dinner and I was out.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, careful. Stock up while you can. Those tariffs spare nobody.

[Josh Firestein]

I'll sell you some.

[Steven Crowder]

It's 11am 11am the lineup, by the way. Hey, if you're watching here, like it, Share it, download the app, follow us there. Because, you know, YouTube's not a thing, and we're not relying on the algorithm. CEO Captain Morgan. Glad for you to be here. You had to Uber because of Hail and goodnights? Comedy club in Raleigh, North Carolina. A man to my right, your left. Josh Firestein will be there May 23rd, 24th. Go see live comedy. It's. It's a lot of fun.

[Josh Firestein]

I will be there. It's not on their website yet.

[Steven Crowder]

What is wrong with them?

[Josh Firestein]

Well, nothing's wrong with them. They're Good people.

[Steven Crowder]

Call them out.

[Josh Firestein]

They just got a lot of things going on.

[Steven Crowder]

Start some stuff.

[Josh Firestein]

No, they're good people.

[Steven Crowder]

Give me a reason.

[Josh Firestein]

I should. I should be waiting to promote it, but, yeah, I promise I'll be there. It's not a joke.

[Steven Crowder]

All right. All right. And. And Mr. Goodnights. You get your crib together. Okay?

[Dave Landau]

You get your website up.

[Steven Crowder]

So we have a lot to get to today. We already talked about that. And we have Eva Frey. Fry. Son of a. Admonish me. There you go. Viva Fry. Right off the bat, Viva Fry.

[Dave Landau]

Boom.

[Steven Crowder]

But this is a clip to start us off. I haven't seen this, so I'm experiencing this with you. We have shared experiences together, although I don't know your lived experience, because I'm a privileged white man. So. The urban jungle is a place that's, you know, always full of surprises. And this video that I've not seen is living proof that you never know what to expect in the big city.

[Tanya Franks]

Bad boys, bad boys what you gonna do?

[Steven Crowder]

Okay. Oh, it's a pause. So what are we. Oh, you're playing a game with me.

[Josh Firestein]

Yes, we. We have to guess what happens next.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay.

[Josh Firestein]

Is it A, Dang. Billy the man carjacks the person filming the video.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay.

[Josh Firestein]

Is it B, the man gets destroyed by a vehicle.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, that could be funny.

[Josh Firestein]

Or is it C? He arrives on time for his job at the local mechanic engineering firm.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, come on now. You don't. You're laying it on.

[Josh Firestein]

Hey, this is a trick question. The answer. All the kids at the party get scared. And I saw this movie. This is signs.

[Steven Crowder]

I tell you what, I tell you what.

[Dave Landau]

He makes a giraffe balloon.

[Steven Crowder]

If it is A. And he carjacks a man completely nude. He's earned the car, if that's me.

[Josh Firestein]

Have it. You can have it.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly. He's like, come on. I mean, it is like, nothing up my sleeve. Well, you have no sleeves. All right, give me the answer, Tool Man. There we go.

[Josh Firestein]

The answer is eliminated by a Prius.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, well, he never heard it coming.

[Dave Landau]

Black man could be hit by a Prius.

[Steven Crowder]

It looks like he anticipated, like, he deliberately ran in to get hit by that car.

[Dave Landau]

He was looking that way.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Like, he was like, I want to ruin someone's day. Prius.

[Josh Firestein]

That would be a weird insurance fraud case. Like the insurance agent be like, you should if you could have clothes.

[Dave Landau]

What?

[Josh Firestein]

A clothes problem?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Dave Landau]

You hit someone? No, he hit me. Really?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. No. You're calling all states. Are you meant to call some state? That's Are you in? Good hand jobs hit me so hard.

[Josh Firestein]

My clothes fell off.

[Steven Crowder]

I was fully clothed right before. That would be hilarious if he was only wearing shoes. And when he got hit, there was nothing but a pair of shoes.

[Josh Firestein]

You know what, my dunks, if you zoom in, you can see a condom though. Maybe he was running away. Maybe he got caught with somebody else's wife.

[Steven Crowder]

Or he misinterpreted protection.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah, absolutely. He definitely got caught having sex with somebody he shouldn't have been having sex with.

[Josh Firestein]

This is an Afroman song. Daddy was way with a two by four.

[Steven Crowder]

I weep for society. It doesn't get any better with this next one, but this just shows you that America's the last bastion of hope. In Germany, police, well, they made what they thought was a pretty grisly discovery. Don't worry, it's okay. In Rostock, Germany, there's a twist. Pause, pause. To people listening on audio. Yes, you heard correctly. It turned out that the murder victim that was found turned out to be a sex doll after a five hour investigation. But here's what's most interesting.

[Josh Firestein]

Stay right.

[Steven Crowder]

Most interesting. A sex. A pole pet. Because like, there's often some crossover with English, French or Spanish. Like, coffee is cafe. Right, Right. Almost none with German. Except for Sex puppet.

[Josh Firestein]

Sex puppet, which of course is German for Pinocchio.

[Steven Crowder]

What must that sex puppet have done.

[Dave Landau]

To deserve this treatment?

[Steven Crowder]

Look at that.

[Josh Firestein]

His nose wouldn't grow.

[Dave Landau]

That's the last time I ever do this with you. Sets it on fire.

[Steven Crowder]

Nothing else crosses. There's no crossover between German and English. Oh, except sex. A pulpit. Sex pulpit. All right, sor. I just want to hear it again. And they take it so seriously.

[Josh Firestein]

Rewind a little bit.

[Steven Crowder]

There we go. It was assumed to not be a living person.

[Josh Firestein]

Aren't morticians all mad that there's not a dead body?

[Steven Crowder]

I love how they still, like, they still try and add an element of mystery. Like only one thing remains is why would they dispose of a sex puppet in this manner? We would get to the bottom of this. It's a pervert. There you go. There's a. Choose your own path.

[Josh Firestein]

What does the sex puppet do to. He just didn't want his mom to find it.

[Steven Crowder]

I know. I can picture them interrogating it like, oh, sex or pulpit. Were you cheating? It's just, it's a silly, silly place and we should take nothing that they say or do seriously. Not only because of the historical timeline of Germany, if you're a history buff, but even today they can't get it right. More proof. The Rostock police, they nicknamed the doll Selena.

[Dave Landau]

Come on.

[Josh Firestein]

She'S a Latin icon. Come on.

[Dave Landau]

What doll can't like Selena?

[Steven Crowder]

Come on.

[Dave Landau]

It's fine.

[Steven Crowder]

And it went missing overnight. Yeah. It's not in the evidence locker.

[Josh Firestein]

Ivor takes this home for further investigation.

[Dave Landau]

You're gonna want to swab that.

[Josh Firestein]

Cleaned it.

[Steven Crowder]

Police chief's like, they're on to me. I will solve this case or my name is not even the way. This is the 6th. The 6th reported. No 6th pulpit that was confused for a murder victim in Germany. Shouldn't they have a protocol, like after the first two or three, like the first question when they show up looking like the third act of E.T.

[Dave Landau]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Should be the police chief, like, okay, now, first, to save everyone's time. Is this a sex. A puppet?

[Josh Firestein]

Is this like the zodiac killer of sex puppets? He's sending letters to the media.

[Steven Crowder]

That's just two sex puppets having a. Having a picnic by the San Francisco Bay. They're there. They're sex puppets. Blissfully unaware of what awaits them. Me. Oh, gosh.

[Josh Firestein]

And you know, it's not exclusively a German problem either. Really disturbing. Yeah, because I was hanging out on the railroad tracks earlier.

[Steven Crowder]

What? Yes.

[Josh Firestein]

Hanging out the railroad tracks. And I found this.

[Steven Crowder]

That's. That's terrible. Wait, what? Look. What were you doing in the bushes, though?

[Tanya Franks]

Look.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. So why were you in the bushes?

[Josh Firestein]

Cheryl C. I hang out there sometimes. What, another survival guy thing? Yeah, yeah, I was out there hanging out. You know what? Earlier, I pulled up some of the footage and I put it in the system.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, yeah. It was here all along. Well, well, well.

[Josh Firestein]

What do you have to say to Gerald C. Yeah.

[Dave Landau]

What are you doing here?

[Steven Crowder]

The sex pulpit came back the very next day.

[Josh Firestein]

Should have burned it. Gerald.

[Steven Crowder]

Here's the thing that was part of the protocol. This is funny. And I know if you're watching, you're older. This is actually a real. That's why they're finding more and more sex. You need to understand, this has become a huge industry because of. Yeah, you can trace it back to feminism because of male female dynamics, where a lot of men, young men, are checking out of the dating pool. 44% of Generation Z males. Well, if they're teen, they've never dated. According to a study in 2023, 63% of men aged 18 to 29 are single, and 10% of men between the ages of 22 and 34 have never had any type of sexual relations, which is, by the way, the highest ever. And the Global good.

[Dave Landau]

If it was an abstinence choice of like, waiting for marriage, it's probably not driven by that.

[Steven Crowder]

And then on the flip side of that, the global sex doll market is set to increase from $3 billion to $10 billion by the year 2030. Wow.

[Dave Landau]

I think that's just improvements in technology.

[Steven Crowder]

It is improvements in technology. Well, the thing is, people will say, do we have a pornification of culture? Sure, yeah, absolutely, we do. But a lot of young men, it's not worth the risk. I mean, for example, you use like, Harry Sisson, who. I get it, no one. We're not fans of him. He's a Democrat activist and he's a moron. But I will say this. He was consensually sexting women, and then that was used against him as though he was a predator. And a lot of men are going, unless I happen to meet the woman who I'm going to spend the rest of my life with, anything consensual can be used against me. And so now with the innovations in AI and I would imagine textiles, I'm just gonna go with a sex puppet.

[Josh Firestein]

Pretty soon they're gonna have. These sex puppets are like, really good in detail.

[Steven Crowder]

That's what I understand.

[Josh Firestein]

You know, pretty soon they're gonna have like anatomy so these people, these murderers can go cut them up and dispose. I would still get the same feeling.

[Steven Crowder]

I would imagine that's what. That's probably makes them feel godlike, as I understand.

[Dave Landau]

I don't know, the healthy outlet, I guess.

[Josh Firestein]

Read the Green River Killers book. I don't know.

[Steven Crowder]

Let me ask you this. What's the name? What's the weirdest thing you've ever found in. In public?

[Dave Landau]

Not a sex puppet.

[Steven Crowder]

No, definitely.

[Dave Landau]

Well, no, I did have a waiter at a restaurant and I told you this story. We both know the. The restaurant has a side gig as a sex puppet salesperson and does, I guess, very well with.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, I can imagine.

[Dave Landau]

It's incredibly scary that that person is serving me.

[Steven Crowder]

He's so good. He's a waiter.

[Dave Landau]

Yes, exactly. He's just getting started, which.

[Steven Crowder]

Which is kind of surprising. I would imagine that's the easiest job in the world. They basically sell themselves.

[Dave Landau]

I mean, you're just a fulfillment guy, right?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly. I bet you watch there's going to be some new, like, direct order sex puppet, a disruptor in the industry, like, cut out the middleman. It's a sex puppet in the box.

[Josh Firestein]

Weirdest thing I ever found in public was an Afghan guy masturbating at a porta potty.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, I found that, too, at a gas station in Manhattan.

[Lane Kiffin]

Did he stop?

[Josh Firestein]

Because this guy didn't stop.

[Steven Crowder]

No, he looked me in the eyes.

[Dave Landau]

We need a palate cleanse. How about this? Easter is coming up. Thank God.

[Josh Firestein]

Nice segue, Daryl.

[Dave Landau]

Away from all the sex stuff.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, the reason we want to have some levity is because the next story is pretty heavy.

[Dave Landau]

Yes, it really is. Yeah. The Jesus Risen shirt. Go to Crowdershop.com free $5 with no minimum spend promo code. Jesus.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, I will tell you this.

[Dave Landau]

Help us, please, Lord. This place is terrible.

[Steven Crowder]

As. As funny as it is, it really is foundational to society. You lose the male female dynamics, you lose the nuclear family. You lose Western civilization, and this is a problem. And people can scream until they're blue in the face. I mean, I will say this with feminists, and we're seeing, funny enough, a shift now. Feminists. And you remember the MeToo Times up movement. And of course, we're not talking about monsters who actually raped people. We all agree those people should be buried beneath the prison. Okay, we get it. But there are a lot of people who are falsely accused, and it became a witch hunt. And feminists in the 21st century, it's the only movement that will literally create gatherings, events centered around protesting, compliments as catcalling, and then turn around two, three, four years later now and say, there are no good men left, and why is chivalry dead? Well, take a guess.

[Dave Landau]

You're killing it.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah, take it. And I buy. Cat call. I get it. They come over. I understand. A compliment. Holding the door. I've had women complain if I hold the door for them.

[Dave Landau]

Yes. Or trying to go talk to somebody. We've talked about this before in the Gillette commercial. That was kind of the peak of it, where I was like, are you kidding me?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Dave Landau]

Like seeing an attractive girl walk by and going, oh, I'm going to go talk to her. That's a problem.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Dave Landau]

What do you want us to do?

[Josh Firestein]

It's like just holding a door open. She's like, I'm not getting in your van. I'm like, all right. Yeah, bitch about it.

[Dave Landau]

I was trying to be nice, you.

[Josh Firestein]

Know, not even a new van.

[Steven Crowder]

No.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, that's expensive.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. You got to max your. You got to max your looks. And then she'd get in the paneled van. Next story here, this is one. That. And this is a Let me know Comment below if you have seen this story. Because if you've already seen the story, that means that you're not watching legacy media. This is one of the top trends on pretty much all the social platforms right now and it has not been covered by so called mainstream news outlets. This really does show that divide and I have a hunch as to why. Yesterday, and I warn you, this is very is a heartbreaking story. A boy named Austin Metcalfe and I'm just gonna. A white student was stabbed to death by Carmelo Anthony, a black student. I know what you're thinking. Another basketball player went broke and is robbing high school students. That would be wrong.

[Dave Landau]

Carmelo Anthony, different Carmelo.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't follow the sports, so Josh told me. It's funny, he plays basketball. Correct.

[Dave Landau]

We have to find a way.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. So there was a black student and this was at a track meet, a stabbing. People use the term senseless killing. And yeah, most killing is senseless but often you can find a motivation or you can find some kernel of warped as it may be, reasoning from the killer's point of view. I understand they're psychopaths, they can be sociopaths, but sometimes there's something we go, okay, this is where it went wrong. In this case it truly does meet the definition of a completely senseless killing. And that's why it's so heartbreaking. It happened in Frisco, Texas. Here's a briefing.

[Lane Kiffin]

Frisco Memorial High School community will honor a student today after he was stabbed to death at a track meet yesterday morning. 17 year old Austin Metcalf was at a District 11 5A track meet at Kuykendall Stadium. Frisco Police say around 10am 17 year old Carmelo Anthony stabbed Metcalf in the chest after some sort of fight. It's unclear how Anthony got the knife into the meat or exactly what led.

[Dave Landau]

Up to the fight.

[Lane Kiffin]

Anthony now facing first degree murder charges.

[Steven Crowder]

It's tragic. And actually here's a look at. Of course this has touched a lot of people. The violent protests in reaction to the stabbing. Starting to get the picture now. I'm going to be quite clear about this. This is not racially motivated as far as we know. But to act as though there isn't a component or a pattern that people recognize that would only serve to breed more racism. We do need to have an honest conversation about this, especially as white Americans who have been browbeaten as the greatest domestic terror threat as well. White supremacy of course, labeled as the greatest threat to national security. We've seen that and it's untrue. And you can't solve a problem if you don't actually understand the nature of the problem. So social media trending everywhere. Top five, certainly right now on X. As of the time of this broadcast. The mentions of this story on national media, one on CNN Online, zero at msnbc, and the local headlines conspicuously omit the race of the perpetrator. Let's look at Dallas Morning News. Frisco ISD student fatally stabbed at high school track meet. Fort Worth Star Telegram, North Texas Student stabbed at track meet dies suspect arrested. Frisco police say. And this isn't just whataboutism. This is recognizing social engineering for an agenda. It would be one thing to say, well, the race doesn't matter. I don't agree with that. If you see a statistical trend, and I certainly don't agree with that when you understand this in context. Do we have an apples to apples comparison? Yeah. Let's look at the media headlines. When it's black on white. Last week, viral video depicts unprovoked assault at Ashbrook High School. Right. We have it. It's another. We can look at it when it's. When it's white on black. But this is another last week. Okay, so you see that headline, and I warn you, this is very upsetting. Here's the video. Damn.

[Josh Firestein]

Real funny.

[Steven Crowder]

And here's, here's the thing. You heard the laughing, right? You heard the laughing and the wailing. By the way, that boy, Ethan, he had a broken skull bone. This happened at LeBron James, I promise school. There were three young black men involved. I don't know exactly what has happened with this stabbing here in Frisco, but I do know this. Someone who stabbed somebody over asking for them to. What we know is move seats. Like, hey, you're sitting in the wrong place. That's someone who has had a simmering, festering hatred that has been instilled in them. So it begs the question why this is not something that we typically see. We don't see someone stab another student simply for being asked to move chairs. And we, in this country, let's be honest, we've seen beatings at schools. We didn't see that once upon a time in this country. And we certainly would never expect to hear a third of the classroom laughing.

[Dave Landau]

Right. And just to be clear, the Ethan thing, that was a separate incident. That wasn't from that.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Dave Landau]

Separate. It's fine. No, outside. And the perps were obviously in this case for the example, three black men. Yeah, you don't hear that. You just see the headline there.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, this is A different story. I'm sorry. Yeah, I have the way heaven in my notes. So there's another one? Yeah, Three black men. Here's another one. Teen girl allegedly slugs Asian woman attacks witnesses and possible hate crime on NYC subway. Again, they mention the victim, but they don't mention the perpetrator. Do you remember the Stop Asian Hate? Remember that? When that was going on and that died away, that died off really quickly because Asian Americans were no longer a useful pawn from the left. They don't study interracial crime the way they used to. They changed the method of sort of registering these crimes. I believe it was in 2018. We've covered that before. So we had to use a sample study that showed over 8, 80% of all violent crimes in the Bay Area were black against Asian. That matters. Let's contrast this with media headlines when it's white perpetrators and black victims. White teen allegedly tried to drown black child in racially charged attack. Here's another one. Three white men are found guilty of murder in the killing of Ahmaud Arbery. Here's another one. White man will stand trial for shooting black teen. Ralph Yarl, who went to wrong house Judge rules. Now, again, if it was consistent, okay, but why does it statistically, observably only take place when there's a specific race involved? Yeah, as far as if you're white, it will be listed. If you're a black criminal, probably not. And that just like legacy media, there's a huge chasm between what they are covering and what you care about. With this story. There's a huge difference in the coverage here in labeling perpetrators and victims versus statistical reality. According to the FBI, black offenders. If you look at crimes blacks against whites in this country, blacks are two and a half times more likely to commit a crime against a white person than a white person against a black person. Look, if you were to add up all of the Klan's lynchings, lynchings as horrible as they are, just to be clear, it wouldn't amount to the kind of violence that you see from black people in this country against white people and Asian people, doesn't that matter? Do you think you're going to quell hatred by breeding more of it? And I do actually have a. Yeah, it was sent in 2008 is when the Bureau of Justice stopped publishing data on interracial crimes. Why? And you see a trend before that going, oh, more black against all other races. Now, this is not, of course, to say all black people. This is to say that there is a reality and when there's a trend anywhere else, you would study this to say, okay, what's the causation here? We don't. You can comment below. Why do you think that is? And do you think that that is doing a gross disservice to the next generation in this country? I do have a hunch, though, too. Sometimes it's because of the reaction from those directly involved with the. The crimes, the victims. And I would state that there's a noticeable difference between the reaction. Here's the father of Austin, the victim here discussing his son's death. And we'll contrast that with what you're often used to. The sad part about it is he died in his brother's arms. They were twins, identical twins. And his brother was holding on to him, trying to make it stop bleeding. And he died in. Died in his brother's arms. I'm not trying to judge, but what kind of parents did this child have? What was he taught? He brought a knife to a track meet, and he murdered my son by stabbing him in the heart. And you know what? I already forgive this person already. Already. God takes care of things. God's going to take care of me. God's going to take care of my family. Well, that's not catnap for the media like George Floyd's family. Remember, I think his father showed up who they hadn't seen in a very long time. Or remember Jordan Neely, who was. He was choked by Sergeant Penney on the subway. And of course, he was exonerated completely because Jordan Neely was violent and threatening people on the subway. Well, let's contrast what we just saw there in Frisco with Jordan Neely's dad and how he reacted after Sundance. This was everywhere. I didn't have to go through this either. It hurts. Really, really hurts. What are we gonna do, people? What's gonna happen to us now? I had enough of. This system is rigged. Even though your son was actually the criminal, that man's son was the criminal, and he was blaming everyone else. The media covers it.

[Josh Firestein]

It's the same dude who kicked that same son out of his home.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep. Yep. Didn't want anything to do with him in Frisco. This man's son was. There's no gray area. Was the victim of a senseless killing, and he forgave him. What kind of a society do you want to live in? What kind of a society? Let's take. Now. Let's take race out of it. Which kind of dad do you want to emulate? Hey. Which Kind of dad, do you want to have clout to affect political change? You lived through the Black Lives Matter riots. Right. You know, the end result of the policy changes, the defunding police, the catch and release, the no cash bail. We lived through that. How do we want to structure our society? What do we want it to look like? It's very clear where the media lines up. It's very clear where your intelligence agencies, where your three letter agencies line up. And to me, it's very clear how you, the American people, by the way, of all races line up. That's what I notice with this. That's the dynamic. I see. Now let's move on to something a little, little bit more technical and a little less heavy.

[Dave Landau]

Yes.

[Steven Crowder]

If you guys have anything to add. But I think we.

[Dave Landau]

It's hard, it's just hard to talk about something like that. You know, you, you just, your heart breaks, the whole situation.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Dave Landau]

It's just absolutely terrifying. As a father.

[Josh Firestein]

Respect to that father, too.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Josh Firestein]

Better man than I am. I wouldn't have such words to say.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah. Especially so after. I mean, but that's, you know, that's what somebody's faith can do. It can be, it literally can be the bedrock in your life. And unfortunately, that bedrock was tested.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Dave Landau]

In this man's life. But obviously he's, he looked at this, there was another clip, and he was talking about a sweet moment with his son. And it's again, hard to talk about this because I have kids and. Yeah, you just, you imagine them in these scenarios and it makes you angry. And he's talking like, hey, it's not goodbye, it's I'll see you later. It's a different, it's a different thing. Don't have that kind of faith.

[Steven Crowder]

Don't mistake our Christians, our compassion for weakness or that we don't seek justice, because I don't want us to be sitting ducks either. No, you can forgive someone and still be perfectly fine with our system setting up the meeting between that person and God. The rest of it is between them. So that's the problem is we have had a society that has been based on Christian principles for a very long time. It kind of had to be an unwritten agreement, otherwise this doesn't work. But you can't have one group, and I mean progressive left, I mean, the propaganda that is being pushed, the race baiting, you can't have one group taking advantage of the compassion and empathy of the group that has come before them. That's the dynamic that we see today. And there needs to be. There needs to be compassion, forgiveness, sure, as a Christian, but there also needs to be a strong sword as well, because this is a problem that's not gonna go away unless we address it. Political correctness be damned. So let's go to. Hey, Liberation Day. Yeah, that was yesterday. President Trump's Liberation Day, which means tariffs for everyone. And there's a lot of math going around, a lot of people saying it's the end of the world, some people saying this is a good thing. Overall, I will tell you, there's a lot of good news. There are some winners. There are some losers. The biggest loser is China, which I'm a fan of, not because they're Chinese, but because the country is communist. It's time for the latest installment of the Terrifier. Sir. Okay, I'm. I'm back. I know it's still funny. It's never not going to be funny. So like we said, Biggest Loser, China, Biggest winner, surprisingly, Mexico, because they kind of showed you how to handle this, right?

[Dave Landau]

Yeah, they screwed Canada twice.

[Steven Crowder]

And then the rest of the world.

[Dave Landau]

Now they're doing a pretty good job.

[Steven Crowder]

Canada was omitted from the master list because they're individually going to be stuffed. So we'll just. We're not even gonna be addressing Canada. But there are some. There are some. I think there's some dynamics here that maybe people aren't considering. For example, if you look at a lot of these poor South American countries like Nicaragua, I don't think you maybe know this. If these countries have to end their reciprocal tariffs, it may allow them to come out of the third world. If some of these countries can, for the first time, have actual access to affordable American goods. I'm not talking about an iPad and grok. I'm talking about basic appliances, things that we take for granted that they can't access because their government is protectionist. So that's an underlying theme here that I'm not hearing a lot of people talk about. But of course, we do have here to discuss this, because he's. I guess, yeah, let's just say expert on. On cable news, they say expert. Even if they're not on international policy and relations. It's laying the brain. All right, Lane, the. And in short sleeves with the overhead lights. Look at that.

[Dave Landau]

That's a.

[Steven Crowder]

That's a Mr. Universe.

[Lane Kiffin]

I'm redheaded. They would let me in.

[Steven Crowder]

That's true. Do you. I know you. You don't really tend. But what have you. Freckle, have you ever tried the fake tan? Like the body. Like, what if you put that on.

[Lane Kiffin]

There when I did the jacked up commercial. Santa Claus. Okay, it wasn't bad, but.

[Josh Firestein]

No, you looked good. You looked really good.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, Josh, enough about your van. Josh.

[Dave Landau]

Lane's already said no.

[Steven Crowder]

So nice being here before. Yes, sorry. Before we get to everything else here, for those of you who maybe missed it, yesterday, President Trump announced the new tariffs from the White House Rose Garden and presented a chart. And this has been the source of controversy. We'll actually click clarify that first as far as what the math is and how these tariffs have been calculated, because you've no doubt heard the reaction. But here's his announcement.

[Tanya Franks]

My fellow Americans, this is Liberation Day. China, first row. China, 67%. That's tariffs charged to the USA, including currency manipulation and trade barriers. So 67%. I think you can, for the most part see it. Those with good eyes with bad eyes. We didn't want to bring. It's very windy out here. We didn't want to bring out the big charts because it had no chance. So we're going to be charging someone. There is near sighting discounted reciprocal tariff of 34%, I think. In other words, they charge us, we charge them, we charge them less. So how can anybody be upset? And again, I don't blame the people for doing it.

[Steven Crowder]

It's.

[Tanya Franks]

I think they're very smart in doing it. I blame the people that sat right in that Oval Office right over there, right behind the Resolute desk, whichever desk they chose.

[Steven Crowder]

And I know some of you, it's always funny how he has to toss something in. For those of you who have bad eyes, you may. You think initially that seems like it might be petty. It's even worse when you know that he went a step further. Your bad eyes, your lies, your fake news.

[Lane Kiffin]

Bad eyes.

[Steven Crowder]

You have bad eyes. He sent that. He sent that to a journalist.

[Dave Landau]

He did, yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Left it on the.

[Josh Firestein]

In the moment. They were like, hey, what the airdrop guys are.

[Steven Crowder]

I hope he's not talking about me.

[Dave Landau]

Who could it be?

[Josh Firestein]

I left my contacts at the hotel. You can't afford Lasik astigmatism.

[Steven Crowder]

You know that. And we're going to get to. Because one thing is, there's been a lot of misinformation about there. And this is one of those areas where this is why you can line up 100 economists and you'll have 50 say that this is awful, it's the end of the world. And 50 say, well, hold on a second. There's actually something here that you're not taking into consideration. So some of what, what I'm going to present here, both of us, is our opinion and speculation. Here's what is not speculation. The media has taken a side. Absolutely. And told you that this is the rapture. President Trump announcing a massive worldwide series of tariffs, in fact bringing tariffs to levels that have not been seen, according to Fitch, since just before the First World War.

[Lane Kiffin]

Donald Trump purposefully craters the US Economy and threatens to throw the entire world into a pointless trade war.

[Viva Fry]

Fueled, fueled recession, if not depression.

[Lane Kiffin]

There are enemies like South Korea, Taiwan and China starting to work together. No.

[Steven Crowder]

Because 5% tariff on car imports are currently in effect, a move expected to.

[Lane Kiffin]

Spike prices on millions of vehicles.

[Steven Crowder]

Donald Trump makes good on his plan to derail the American economy. So it's dumb to have this across the board tariff. We're raising taxes on the American people and companies and it's gonna hurt Pennsylvania. Now, before we go to some key facts here, Lane, I know you just said no, and honestly, that's all it really warrants. No, that's incorrect.

[Lane Kiffin]

So stupid.

[Steven Crowder]

But it is kind of amazing. Sometimes even I'm surprised. We usually use leftist sources because we want you to know what they're saying. That's why we provide all the references link in the description today as every day, there is no rational argument that they make. Rachel Maddow. He purposefully is tanking the economy. Let me ask you this. Even if you hate him, why would he do that? You say he's a bloviating egotist. Sure. Then he cares about his legacy. Stalin didn't want to tank his economy. He was an idiot. Communism fails. But he wanted to be exalted. He wanted a bunch of statues. Hitler didn't try and tank his economy. No one would have a vested interest in tanking their economy, guaranteeing that their legacy is tarnished forever and their party has not a chance at midterms. There's no rational argument to be presented for that statement, only blind hatred.

[Dave Landau]

Yes.

[Lane Kiffin]

She's a journalist that couldn't see very well.

[Dave Landau]

Yes.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, he did talk about it, so.

[Dave Landau]

I want to go to his point. So the lady on cnn.

[Lane Kiffin]

Yeah, that's what I do want to make that point real quick because you mentioned we use leftist sources to kind of bolster our own arguments, which you should. The source she's citing for China, South Korea and Japan getting along is Chinese Central Television, which is the Chinese state media. And immediately the trade minister from Japan came out, said, yeah, no, that didn't happen.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. By the way, didn't she say Taiwan?

[Lane Kiffin]

She. She very well could have.

[Josh Firestein]

She did say Taiwan.

[Steven Crowder]

She did.

[Josh Firestein]

Of course Chinese TV was like, and Taiwan also very happy.

[Steven Crowder]

And Japanese would be like, you still lie. It's not true. Shut up, you fan Kui Chinese other liar. Hey, all the. All the Japanese joke. How can you.

[Lane Kiffin]

Oh my God.

[Steven Crowder]

When the Chinaman is Ryan, his mouth is moving.

[Lane Kiffin]

You look like the racist caricature off the ramen restaurant. If they can find it, it's too funny.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, very good.

[Dave Landau]

Hey, Lane, who knew to take out literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years of wars, Hundreds and hatred and violence. Thousands. All we had to do was have terrorists.

[Lane Kiffin]

Literally before Jesus was on the planet, this was a war that was going on.

[Dave Landau]

China and Korea are like, hey, we could be friends.

[Steven Crowder]

Literally the basis for the entering into, you know, for World War II with the Japanese is wanting to create a superior Pan Pacific race which specifically does not include Chinese people. You think that our racism is bad? Just look at how Asians treat other. To you, they look far more similar than me or even Lane and a black American. You don't know hatred until you've seen Japanese Chinese.

[Dave Landau]

But that ended up on CNN as by God news.

[Lane Kiffin]

My Korean co worker called Japanese devious little monkeys publicly and felt good about it.

[Steven Crowder]

I got the monkey. You monkey.

[Dave Landau]

Well, they weren't black, so it doesn't have the same kind.

[Lane Kiffin]

No, but I was like, I can't believe you said that.

[Dave Landau]

So thanks, Gerald.

[Steven Crowder]

I can.

[Josh Firestein]

Well, I could.

[Dave Landau]

But yeah, no, I'm saying it would have been.

[Steven Crowder]

So let's go to some. Some key facts here is. Okay, number one, like what are reciprocal tariffs? Right. And the White House along with that chart presented some. Some math that got community noted. Their math equation is very complex. We do actually have kind of the net result. As far as what the math equation should look like. We haven't been able to verify theirs. But let's first go, what are reciprocal tariffs? That's according to Donald Trump, not the media, who says it's the end of the world. They're basically tariffs imposed on a country according to whatever rate or penalty they.

[Tanya Franks]

Charge us for nations that treat us badly. We will calculate the combined rate of all their tariffs, non monetary barriers and other forms of cheating. And because we are being very kind, we're kind people, very kind, but we will charge them approximately half of what they are and have been charging us.

[Steven Crowder]

And China will say, thank you, sir, may I have another? So they presented this math saying this is how they came to the number because it's not just about the actual tariffs that they actually put up. It's about a trade deficit, too. So in reality, this is what the math equation seems to be. It's a trade deficit with the country divided by the imports from said country. If you do that, all of these numbers add up.

[Lane Kiffin]

And, you know, it works because the ones that are all 10%.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah.

[Lane Kiffin]

Are all countries that we have trade surpluses with. And he's like, screw it, 10%.

[Dave Landau]

Well, 10% was the base.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, 10% was the base.

[Dave Landau]

That's what.

[Steven Crowder]

Why.

[Dave Landau]

No, no, no. I'm just saying that's what he's saying. 10% was just the base. So it's just the number that they.

[Lane Kiffin]

That's why Brazil and Australia both have 10%.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Right. So, and it brings us to, like, why is President Trump doing this? Okay, here's the. That's key fact number two. Here is the real reason is to try and reshore manufacturing, to cut some trade deficits and ultimately to punish China. And that's pretty important because we've talked about this my whole life, especially being around people in finance. China is the next great superpower, and everyone just assumed it. Everyone knows that this has been going on, but for some reason, it was never covered. For some reason, people were not aware of just how unfair the trade was with China. And if nothing else, Donald Trump is drawing attention to it. This almost seems like everything is designed to revolve around its catering straight to China.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah. And I think, Lane, to some of the points that you've made about this, he's definitely taking aim at imbalances in trade. Right. But he's also looking at people who are doing things with tariffs against us that he's trying to just correct in general, because they're hurting us. But it's bigger than that.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, yeah.

[Lane Kiffin]

Then to Steven's point, there are other things that are not just tariffs, like greenhouse gas emission regulations or environmental regulations that make our products impossible to sell places. But with the two points, like to reshore manufacturing near shore to place like Mexico and punish China, they're one of the same, because China has taken our manufacturing base by manufacturing things very cheaply, subsidizing them, and then flooding other markets with them, even when they're taking losses just so they can occupy market space.

[Dave Landau]

Right.

[Lane Kiffin]

It's called overcapacity, and it's what their entire economy is based off.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Lane Kiffin]

And that is. That is why there's no longer a middle class in Ohio or a place like Gary, Indiana, because of this problem.

[Dave Landau]

Right.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, just like we've said that as far as national defense for the Western world, you, the American taxpayer, you subsidize it. Right? It's you, you, the American workers subsidize it. Same can be said for putting people out of work in the United States. That's the Chinese government subsidizing for decades. Yeah, it's not, it's not capitalism versus capitalism. No, it is a designed market. Specifically, it's not even designed to turn a profit. It's designed to destroy American economic stability.

[Lane Kiffin]

I don't like to use the term elites, but this was the elites in America that were fine with this happening because they were gonna reap the short term benefits of it. It's the McKinsey method. It's the people, they don't care about growing a middle class. They care about padding their pocketbooks. And that's why the Clintons and the Bushes and the world trade organizations pushed to get China involved in this world system.

[Steven Crowder]

Right. And one thing I want to address too is, you know, the math. The reason that that's necessary, you have some people going, well, why don't they just show the actual tariffs? Okay. It's very difficult. And I know this is going to sound nerdy. We covered the Canadian dairy, for example. It's 250 something percent. Right. And people would argue, well, actually that's only the top tier tariff and we don't export enough dairy. Yeah. Because of that top tier tariff. So if you're going to look at the average tariff, you're going to look at the average penalties. For example, in a place like Canada, the average would be taken down because you go, well, hold on a second. We're only in that first tier because there's only about a 3% tariff for tax on tariff. Yeah. But there are more dairy farms, there's more dairy production in Wisconsin than all of Canada. If not for that tariff, we'd be exporting a whole lot. So what really is 250something% looks like zero. And that throws off the average. So you can't just list a tariff. It's a little more difficult. And I do think that actually looking at that trade imbalance is an important metric. And I think that Donald Trump knows that if nothing else, this is kind of his strong suit. He understands this pretty well. He's the only president, he is the only president, at least in the last two centuries, who has direct experience with this in dealing with manufacturing, in dealing with supply chains. Because of his businesses. The other ones before him, they Wouldn't. They didn't have that experience in the private sector and certainly not to this degree. So some of this is new. And yeah, I get it. There's some instability in these uncertain times. It's a good idea to be prepared for anything.

[Josh Firestein]

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[Lane Kiffin]

What city?

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[Steven Crowder]

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[Steven Crowder]

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[Lane Kiffin]

Yeah. It allowed the cheap manufacturers like Temu and Shein to export their goods under $800 without any duties.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Lane Kiffin]

And so basically by getting rid of that protection, it will effectively ruin those companies ability to export to the U.S.

[Steven Crowder]

You mean the ones that sell flammable children's onesies?

[Lane Kiffin]

Those are the ones I'm talking about. Don't buy flamingo from temu.

[Dave Landau]

Do not.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, don't.

[Dave Landau]

That's huge. That is a. Those companies will, if this sticks, will not exist.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Dave Landau]

Yeah, they will go out of business. And I didn't know this, but so are Taiwan semiconductors.

[Lane Kiffin]

So if you actually look at a lot of these countries, there's a lot, there's a whole list of products that are exempt from these tariffs that he didn't really talk about because it doesn't drive home his point.

[Dave Landau]

Right.

[Lane Kiffin]

But semiconductors being one of them. So Almost like yeah, 60% of Taiwan's exports to the United States are in the semiconductor industry. So they're a little bit more protected than you'd initially think.

[Dave Landau]

Is there something similar like that with Japan?

[Lane Kiffin]

No, Japan, because most of theirs is automobiles. Korea is getting similar cuts too because they have a lot of semiconductor exports. The United States.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, so that's good to know. And the biggest winner you're talking about here is, is Mexico. This is something you're pretty passionate about because all of the usmca, the compliant goods, they're exempt. So the same is true, by the way, for some of the auto tariffs that were announced last week. Only the goods originating in other countries like China will be affected. Which by sheer coincidence timed perfectly with the unveiling of China's newest gift to Mexico, the province of Guangdong. It's racist two ways.

[Lane Kiffin]

It's a nice workaround. Guangdong is. It's very hot and humid there. It's a lot like Houston.

[Steven Crowder]

Is it?

[Lane Kiffin]

It is, yes.

[Steven Crowder]

Except not as many fat people.

[Lane Kiffin]

Prettier girls, according to some.

[Steven Crowder]

According to some.

[Lane Kiffin]

They speak Cantonese. So do with that what you will.

[Steven Crowder]

But I don't know what to do with that either.

[Lane Kiffin]

I hadn't really thought about it, to be honest with you.

[Steven Crowder]

But you made this point.

[Josh Firestein]

You said they can't feel their knees.

[Steven Crowder]

When people talk about, oh, you're strength. One of the greatest things for the United States or at least what could be a very big positive from this would be an economically prosperous Mexico.

[Lane Kiffin]

Correct. And now if you have a chance for US investment to come in there, they're still going to be able to export to the United States. Their president has been very cordial in this whole deal. She showed you how to deal with it. Why the Canadians have showed how to act like children.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Lane Kiffin]

And I think this will really benefit kind of that bilateral trade system. And yeah, if you want the cartel gone, there's nothing better than every Mexican to have a, you know, a good paying job.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah. Really. Also hopefully guns, we can manufacture those. Yeah. I mean, you know, Mexican citizens, not just the cartels, otherwise you end up with your head in a turtle.

[Dave Landau]

One sided.

[Steven Crowder]

The kind of the biggest question mark, I guess, most uncertainty. Right. You're talking about this countries Like Japan, Korea, Taiwan. This is one people are concerned about. Like they already have some pretty low tariff rates comparatively.

[Lane Kiffin]

It's already very, quite outside of a couple specific products. Like Japan has a high rice levy. But I don't mind that because we don't export, we export a lot to them. But the point is they can't really lower their tariffs much more. I guess they could start increasing defense buys, but they're already doing that. The Japanese are already investing a ton of money into the United States. So I don't really know it. I would like and I think behind the scenes you'll get this in negotiations.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Lane Kiffin]

But you're not seeing at least forward facing what is the ask from these countries that have apparently up until this point done everything that they've been asked to do. So I could see where there'd be some confusion in those capitals unless there's backdoor negotiations.

[Steven Crowder]

And historically Donald Trump has been very amenable to negotiations with, with allies.

[Lane Kiffin]

Correct.

[Steven Crowder]

I would imagine this is a bargaining chip.

[Lane Kiffin]

Look, the one thing I just, I'm sorry, we have time. Is Vietnam is the one that's screwed in this because so many companies reshored or went from China to Vietnam to avoid this exact kind of tariff.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Lane Kiffin]

Well, now that's not going to help them. Vietnam already dropped all tariffs and they can't really afford to buy anything else from us because they're not, they don't have the per capita GDP to do so.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Lane Kiffin]

So I don't know what they can do. Maybe give us a naval base or something. But I feel very bad for the Vietnamese right now. And especially that's the one country I'm looking at the most kind of hyper focus because we really need that Vietnamese help if we're going to, you know, work vis a vis China in that region. So I wouldn't want to be in Hanoi.

[Dave Landau]

Hey, Vietnam, we won the long game.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, exactly. I don't think that's forgotten. How's the tiny shoe feel on the other foot?

[Lane Kiffin]

Let's pull a Korea, let's invest in the country, build it up, make it a first world country, then they can start buying our stuff.

[Dave Landau]

There you go.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, what's fascinating too when we're talking about this like the communism in China is they don't have the ability, Right. Their citizens don't have the ability to purchase a whole lot of U.S. goods. And here's what's funny, like communism, if people, you know, it's not a bunch of hipsters and coffee houses. The idea is, okay, you're talking about the proletariat. They're going to seize means of control and production, right? And then they're going to be the ones to benefit from this instead of the business owners in China. They just get the worst parts of communism without even the false perks. Like there's very little social safety net. So it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna be communists, but all you workers, you're actually not gonna be able to enjoy the fruits of your labor at all. You're going to be in these factories, okay? We're going to control everything. You're not gonna have a social safety net. And as soon as it's done, you get to make all the cool crap and it's gone to America. So sorry, it's gotta be. I often wonder how much the Chinese citizens have bought into the problem.

[Lane Kiffin]

I don't know, it's hard to tell. But this, someone referred to this as being like a Hiroshima moment for the Chinese economy. Because what you're doing is you're taking away their ability to export, which is what their entire economy is driven off of because they don't consume. They've been trying to switch to a consumer market, but if you're a communist government, you can't give your consumers that much power, right? Because then they start being able to dictate policy. So what do they do? They can't absorb the consumption from the other, other countries.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Lane Kiffin]

And they can't export their way out of this anymore because they don't have any place. They have massive tariffs even going to the other third party countries. This is a really great move as far as hedging against China.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, I do want to. Maybe we can bring you back because we have Viva Frye on the line. Of course, sorry, Viva lineup. And we can go back because I want to discuss South America. A lot of people are sort of glossing past this.

[Lane Kiffin]

I'd love to.

[Steven Crowder]

And a lot of Americans don't realize these places haven't even had their industrial revolution. You have people who are sleeping in hammocks and still, you know, warming a can of beans over an old ironing board. Some of these countries do have some purchasing power where if their own nations, if their own governments took off some of these tariffs, there would be American companies that sure would be great if they invest in manufacturing. But even before that could create some affordable goods and services that these people could finally use. Things that we take for granted. I'm talking about like an electric tea kettle could do something. I'm Talking about, these people are washing things on washboards to this day. They don't even necessarily have access to soap because it can be so expensive and these kinds of things could be exported. That could fundamentally shift the economies for some of these nations that people are overlooking also. Look, guys, nothing's. But we often complain that people don't do anything. What did you think was gonna change? People say, I don't like the method. Okay, you don't. For 50 years, nothing has happened, and these people are taking advantage of the United States. You think one more ask, one more meeting, one more letter was going to make a difference? We've tried it one way for over half a century. Let's try it another way. Unless you believe that he's simply trying to deliberately torpedo the economy, as Rachel Maddow does. I don't see how that makes sense. But I do want to go back with you. And I don't know if you have to go there and then come back in or you can sit there.

[Dave Landau]

Sit here.

[Lane Kiffin]

Listen to Viva.

[Dave Landau]

I want to hear what he is.

[Steven Crowder]

All right. Okay. So for people who are. And, okay, he's going to be here for about five minutes. Then we're going to send you to Tim Pool. But of course, if you're a Rumble Premium member, you get to continue with us interviewing Viva Frey. You click that button right there to join Rumble Premium. None of this happens without you. Tulian. Are you going to hit?

[Josh Firestein]

I will.

[Steven Crowder]

All right. Can you do the Stinger?

[Josh Firestein]

Yes, I can do the Stinger.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, we have him on the line. I hope he's there. And make sure I can see him. It's time to bring on Viva fry. All right, Mr. Fry. And you are at 4pm Eastern on the Rumble exclusive lineup. Can you see me?

[Viva Fry]

Hear me, sir, I can see and hear you. That picture's a little outdated, but that's back when I was young and naive running for federal office in ndg.

[Steven Crowder]

Steve. Oh, that's right. Yes, ndg. What a silly. What a silly place.

[Viva Fry]

Look, Canada's looking mighty silly in general now and only looks like it's getting worse. But, yeah, Notre Dame de ndg, Westmount was the riding that I ran in for the federal election in 2021. And I thought. I thought things had gotten as crazy as they were going to get back in 2021.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Viva Fry]

Four years later, it's on steroids.

[Steven Crowder]

I know. So people who don't know Montreal, that's where I was raised. My mom is from there. And now, like many French Canadians, Except I don't think you're wearing the speedos and have an old hockey cut. You're in Florida. How do you like Florida compared to the cesspool that is Canada?

[Viva Fry]

Every time I go back it gets worse. It feels more and more like an insane asylum. I'm born and raised in westbound. Lived in NDG for a bit, lived in Quebec City, which is the capital national, where I studied French for four years. Every time I go back to Montreal, it's like a different city. Homelessness is out of control. They have now their safe injection sites 2km from where I used to live. It's spiraling down the drain. But the boogeyman is Donald Trump, apparently.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, exactly. And one thing too that's interesting dynamic to me is you're here on the Rumble lineup, right? Exclusively. You're at 4pm Eastern where people can live stream. I think you follow Jeremy at the quartering. And in Canada, we only had the CB when I was there, we only had the CBC for news, which is of course basically propaganda. It's like, it's, it's, it's like Pravda but Canadian, so it seems nicer. It was entirely funded by the government. There were no other options. When people complain about the corporate media, and I have my problems, corporate media, I go, well, the alternative is government media. That's what we had in Canada. And look what you're doing right now. Wouldn't it have been nice when we were there to have some kind of an alternative?

[Viva Fry]

Well, it's an amazing thing. Corporate media is government media. In Canada you've got cbc, which is the Canada Broadcasting Corporation of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Radio Canada, which is Radio Canada, the French version. Then you've got CTV News, Global News, whatever else the local branches are. It's all government funded, either directly or indirectly through government advertising, Covid subsidies, bailouts for print advertising for digital. It's all government run, government owned, government controlled. And now we're entering into an election where the competition to the government is the one promising to defund the state funded media. And so where do you think that's going to make media drive their narrative in terms of who should get elected in 2025?

[Steven Crowder]

Well, that's what happened with Trudeau, right? I think he promised 100 and either promised 100, 150 million. And I think the NDP candidate promised like 50 or 100 million. There was a discrepancy about 50 million. And they were like, I would go with Trudeau. It's, it's.

[Viva Fry]

Well, the NDP, which is the New Democratic Party is tanking. It looks like every, everyone that was voting for them is going to vote for the Liberals now. But yeah, it's a question of who can give the state, state funded media more money compared to the Conservative Party which wants to defund the cbc. And you see it in the way they control the narrative, suppress dissident voices in the upcoming election. In the 2021 election. Yeah, it's insanity.

[Steven Crowder]

If people want to know what the left would do here in the United States, I mean, they would be at least Canada in a heartbeat if they had complete, unfettered power. And it's terrifying. I know we're going to. I know people can tune in at 4pm for you. We do have to go to Rumble premiere here. But just let people know what is Canada's end goal? What do you think sort of vis a vis the United States in this, in this trade war right now?

[Viva Fry]

Well, I don't know. It looks like, I mean, if you go by the markets, it looks like Mark Carney, who now has a commanding lead in the markets and a ridiculous lead in the polls, but I don't trust the polls. It looks like they're going to try to make enemies out of America, ally with Europe or, you know, get further into the dirty, corrupt bed with China and India. It looks like they are bringing themselves to be the enemy of the United States. And it starts as fun and games on a tariff war. But when it becomes actual issues for national security in terms of Chinese infiltration into Canadian government, Indian terrorist elements infiltrating Canadian government, fentanyl terrorists crossing the border, well, then it goes from being a tariff war to being something much more serious as far as national security goes for the United States.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. And it also makes me question their judgment because Canada has the United States to their south. Right. They've been a horrible neighbor, but they decide to ally with Europe. Those guys are. We're going to continue here on Rumble Premium with Viva Frey. Fry, Fry, Fry. For those of you who are not, don't worry, keep watching. You'll go straight to Tim Pool. Let's go.