Woke CNN Host's Meltdown Over Trump Slavery Truth Needs to Be Examined

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Woke CNN Host's Meltdown Over Trump Slavery Truth Needs to Be Examined"

Louder with Crowder – August 21, 2025
Host: Steven Crowder | Guest: Nick DiPaolo, Ellie

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Steven Crowder and friends review and react to a recent "meltdown" by CNN host Abby Phillip over Donald Trump’s statements on slavery and museums. The episode dives into wider cultural debates about race, policing, U.S.-Israel relations, contemporary feminism, crime and policing in D.C., and the place of "woke" ideology in public discussion. Throughout, Crowder’s signature irreverent humor and confrontational style is in evidence, supported by guests Nick DiPaolo and Ellie.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Abby Phillip and Trump’s "Slavery" Comments (50:27–end)

• Crowder & crew break down Abby Phillip’s on-air reaction to Trump’s Truth Social post claiming museums are obsessed with the “badness” of slavery and don’t recognize America’s positive history (“woke is broke”).
• Crowder’s argument: Trump didn’t deny slavery was bad, he criticized the negative slant and lack of optimism in museums; Abby Phillip misrepresented his point for political narrative.
  • “Did you ever think Trump said slavery is good? Even implied it wasn’t bad?” (50:29)
• Crowder’s historical context: Slavery was universal; it ended here uniquely fast due to Western moral innovations. Crowder repeatedly insists the context of global slavery is critical to understanding U.S. history.
  • “You want to start off with the United States. But that's kind of... entirely disingenuous. Throughout all of human history, the world practiced slavery. That’s why it happened in the United States.” (53:24)
  • “We ended it here and the Western world, because I don't know if you know this... it's still the way of the world outside your privileged bubble. Fifty million slaves on Earth today, more than ever in human history.” (54:01)
• Callout of "echo chambers" and framing: Crowder critiques Abby for stating she welcomes debates while pushing a monolithic, emotionally manipulative narrative; he accuses mainstream media of dishonesty and stifling nuance.
  • “See what she just did there? She starts off by saying, ‘We can't just attribute slavery to one race.’ That’s true... but she treats that as offensive.” (52:17)
• Controversial logic: Crowder provocatively concludes that “white supremacy”—insofar as it was the source of abolition in the West—was paradoxically the cause of freedom for black people, given that slavery persists in non-Western societies.
  • “Why is the only race of people on the planet in 2025... the only group who don’t engage in slavery, white people? ...If you are a black slave... you could use a whole lot more white supremacy.” (63:09)

Notable Quote

• Steven Crowder: “No one's saying that slavery is good. This is, you know, the word you like to use, nuance. We wouldn't want an echo chamber.” (56:56)

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2. Changing Perspectives on Compliments and Feminism (08:17–15:40)

• Discussion of modern dating and gender norms: The hosts mock a viral British TikTok in which a woman is disturbed after an old man compliments her appearance. They criticize the “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” environment for men.
  • “What do women want men to do?... If a man is to approach a woman in public and it is unacceptable. So if that can't be allowed, how would a man do it?” (11:47)
• Stats on declining dating rates: Crowder references studies showing a collapse in Gen Z dating due to cultural and feminist shifts (“men are withdrawing”).
  • “From 2000 to 2023, the number of high schoolers who are dating fell 43%...44% of Gen Z men have never had a girlfriend or boyfriend.” (13:11)

Notable Quote

• Nick DiPaolo: “She was fighting with her instinct as enjoying that as a woman, and the feminist horseshit she’s been fed.” (09:49)

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3. Trump’s Legal Wins and Media Coverage (17:14–18:34)

• Live reaction to legal news: Ellie reports that a nearly $500 million civil fraud penalty against Trump has been voided by a New York appeals court, which the panel describes as proof of overreach and media misrepresentation.
  • “This is what I've always told you. And here's the thing. Kind of like when they say Donald Trump is a rapist...here's the PR battle, and then there’s what happens in court.” – Crowder (17:32)

Notable Quote

• Ellie: “The bank’s happy, Trump’s happy, everybody’s happy. That was what the records show.” (18:30)

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4. Israel Recruiting Americans – U.S.-Israel Relations (19:28–24:42)

• Discussion of Israel’s attempts to recruit Americans (esp. Jews) for military operations in Gaza. Crowder asserts all countries do influence campaigns, but says Israel’s PR in this case is “weird.”
  • “Israel is recruiting Americans for their war. Though some would say...their self-made recruiting campaign was poorly received.” (21:46)
• Panel’s nuance: While expressing discomfort with foreign influence, Crowder and Ellie note this is a voluntary process—distinguishing it from “Americans being sent to die for Israel”—and argue optics aren’t worth the trouble.
  • “It’s not like these numbers are shifting the tables any… I don’t know that the optics are worth it.” – Ellie (23:25)

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5. D.C. Federalized Policing & Crime Stats (32:33–46:31)

• Crowder reviews the impact of Trump’s federalization of D.C. police operations: Reports major drops in violent crime, hails it as a model for handling leftist protest and public safety crises.
  • “Robbery down 46%. Carjacking down 6%. Assault with deadly weapon 83%. Violent crime overall down 22%...there hasn’t been a homicide in the summertime time, which is homicide season, in seven days.” (35:54)
• Crowder claims contrast: The reaction among working-class/black residents is overwhelmingly positive, while opposition comes from white, privileged D.C. elites protesting with luxury cookware in the streets.
  • “If we talk about people who shouldn’t be allowed to vote, it’s that broad in the Klan red t-shirt.” (39:38)
• Panel derides the media and leftist “elites” for using minorities as political props, ignoring the real-life benefits experienced by residents.
  • “Talk about cultural appropriation: how about being a false mouthpiece?...How about the DNC stops the false white prophecies on behalf of black people?” (38:51)
• Broader point: The disconnect between political rhetoric/activism and ground-level realities is highlighted, with approval polling numbers showing Trump as more trusted on crime than Biden.

Notable Quote

• Crowder: “Here are the D.C. residents...the people actually living it are fans [of the crackdown], the protesters are the privileged elite.” (36:38–41:09)
• Nick DiPaolo: “This is the guy who thinks people don’t deserve law and order.” (45:18)

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Additional Noteworthy Moments

• On women in policing: Crowder and Nick DiPaolo argue women (especially “demure” women) should not be police officers without firearms, referencing a viral video from the Dutch police. “Women with only tasers shouldn't be police officers. There's not much more to say.” – Crowder (07:53)
• Cracker Barrel & DEI Satire: A humorous segment is devoted to the supposed decline of Cracker Barrel’s brand under a new “DEI female CEO,” lampooning efforts to modernize or diversify traditional companies. (31:24–32:22)
• Reverse Super Chat: The gang gives away 50 free Rumble Premium subs, riffing on “reverse super chat” (27:34).

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Timestamps of Major Segments

• Compliment culture, feminism & dating stats: 08:17–15:40
• Trump’s legal wins: 17:14–18:34
• Israel influence & military recruiting: 19:28–24:42
• D.C. federal policing, crime stats, resident reactions: 32:33–46:31
• Abby Phillip’s CNN “meltdown”, slavery, and Trump’s comments: 50:27–end

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Selected Memorable Quotes (with Attribution)

• “Did you ever think Trump said slavery is good? Even implied it wasn’t bad?”
  — Steven Crowder (50:29)
• “See what she just did there?… She treats that [global slavery] as offensive. But it’s accurate.”
  — Steven Crowder (52:17)
• “No one's saying that slavery is good. This is, you know, the word you like to use, nuance. We wouldn't want an echo chamber.”
  — Steven Crowder (56:56)
• “From 2000 to 2023, the number of high schoolers who are dating fell 43%...Men are withdrawing. They’re saying, ‘No, I don't want to get into trouble.’”
  — Steven Crowder (13:08)
• “Talk about cultural appropriation: how about being a false mouthpiece?...How about the DNC stops the false white prophecies on behalf of black people?”
  — Steven Crowder (38:51)
• “Here are the D.C. residents...the people actually living it are fans [of the crackdown], the protesters are the privileged elite.”
  — Steven Crowder (36:38–41:09)
• “If you are a black slave... you could use a whole lot more white supremacy.”
  — Steven Crowder (63:09)
• “Women with only tasers shouldn't be police officers. There's not much more to say.”
  — Steven Crowder (07:53)

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Summary Tone and Takeaways

The tone is highly irreverent, politically incorrect, and unapologetically conservative.

• Crowder and guests blend biting satire with pointed cultural criticism, especially targeting mainstream media, left-wing activism, and intersectional talking points.
• The episode’s through-line is media distortion: Crowder argues that figures like Abby Phillip intentionally misunderstand or mischaracterize criticisms of “wokeness” in America, especially when it comes to race and history.
• The show encourages its audience to question media narratives, reject political correctness, and look to what Crowder describes as basic facts (“world history,” “actual crime stats,” “personal responsibility”) for perspective.

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Listeners who haven't heard this episode will find a provocative, humorous, and combative critique of both contemporary left-of-center narratives and their media spokespersons, using news reactions, pop culture, and personal anecdotes to drive home its points.

Transcript

[Steven Crowder]

Welcome to the lineup Live. Welcome, viewers. Coming in from Vincente Bongino, army, glad to have you. 9:00am Eastern to 7:00pm Eastern. You don't need to change that dial. If you had a dial. Most of you have never seen a dial. Lot to get to today. Look, first, let me say slavery is bad, but Abby Phillips is worse. I'll make the case. And Israel is recruiting Americans to go fight for the war in Gaza. And of course, that's sort of lighting the Internet ablaze. We have some opinions on that. Also. D.C. this is a big one. D.C. d.C. The stats are in from the D.C. police. So fast. And record lowering of crime. Turns out it can work. And this administration, particularly Vance, MVP this week and Hegseth, are showing you exactly how to deal with leftist protesters. It's perfect. It's how people have not done it in the past because it lacks decorum. It's exactly how we should do it. My question for you is, who do you think is the funniest member of the administration? You got Hegseth, you got Vance, you got Miller. He's giving them a run for their money. Gosh, I don't know. I don't know. Except, you know, you'd put, like, Bondi, probably on the same playing field as Gallagher on with the show. What does overpaying on your taxes feel like? Yeah. Oh. Oh. Out of my way, nerd. Hey, stop right there. Stop right there. Free. I set free.

[Nick DiPaolo]

About like that.

[Steven Crowder]

Don't let the IRS bust your balls. Visit tnusa.com crowder or call 9581000 for immediate relief and expert guidance. O Glad to be with you. Oh, nice. It's very warm. It feels good. Sometimes it's just a warm drink. Yeah, very nice. Captain Morgan, CEO. You're doing well.

[Ellie]

I'm doing very well. It's supposed to be cold. So we piss you off. You're a little better when you have, like, a slight.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't like that simmering air. I don't like that it improves performance and that everyone just goes like, oh, wait. Steven seemed a little sleepy. Abby Phillips, slavery. And the man who's here today, you know him, you love him. You can watch him 6pm Eastern every day, weekdays on the Rumble lineup. Not on weekends, because, come on, we're not slaves. We'll talk about that. And September 18th, Hyenas Comedy Club, Dallas. September 19th, 20th in Salt Lake City, Utah. Wise guys. Nickdip.com for all his dates. Funniest man alive, Nick DiPaolu. How are you?

[Nick DiPaolo]

This coffee I Got. I got to give the women credit. Yeah, it's really hot and delicious today.

[Steven Crowder]

Good, good.

[Ellie]

I made it.

[Steven Crowder]

See, Even though, like I said, give.

[Nick DiPaolo]

That woman credit over there.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep, yep. Even though lippy and naggy can still serve a purpose. Now, Ellie and Kylie, speaking of women.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Klilee clearly have you.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't think. Sorry, did you say ukulele?

[Nick DiPaolo]

No, I said clean.

[Steven Crowder]

He's selling my French canelo to mom. She can't ever do it. She's like clay Clair. Cryolate. What? That's not a thing.

[Nick DiPaolo]

A tootry piece of toast.

[Steven Crowder]

It's itch, itch. Grat, grad, pik pic. No fun. What the heck? My mom, one time, she goes, it tastes like turtle. How does she know? Cuz turtles is a chocolate. It's a chocolate candy in Canada. Comment below. Canadians, you know what I'm talking about. It's pecans, caramel and chocolate. You know what I'm talking about. Oh, God, yes, yes. But people here don't know. So my mom goes, it's. It tastes like turtle.

[Nick DiPaolo]

They don't know here.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't know. He doesn't.

[Ellie]

I do. I do too. I've had it. I actually went to school with the guy whose father owns that company.

[Steven Crowder]

Ah, you're a turtle.

[Ellie]

Yeah, it's better than Turtles are awesome.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, well, you know, the lesson is slow and steady, guaranteed you lose the race. Yeah. There's no way you win a race going slow. So speaking of, here are two Dutch police women who are dealing with a violent situation. And this is sort of proof positive as to why. Not only should police officers, of course, be able to have firearms, but women in general, particularly demure women shouldn't be police officers. Watch, she's giving a stern talking to that. Well, you can't say African American, black gentleman. Okay? Right in the danger zone. Could have attacked any of them. She's not even standing in balance. Watch. Watch how much respect he has for them. Just runs right by. Listen.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Wait a minute.

[Steven Crowder]

Who did? Yeah, right. And the cameraman is just laughing. And by the way, right after he runs past them where he could have stabbed either of them as many times he wanted. The second time, she finally tases him.

[Ellie]

Which is the funnest part of this.

[Steven Crowder]

It is the funniest part.

[Ellie]

You just go. You see the rigid.

[Steven Crowder]

Ah, yeah.

[Ellie]

Can't do anything about it.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't know what. Like this is. This is the DEI thing. Don't we want our police officers to be as capable of enforcing the law as possible? Don't you think that criminals in general are more likely to be larger and stronger than small women, certainly without guns. Like you're putting them in danger. Second thought, I guess I am pro police officer women at that point in time. But this is also why they can't control themselves. We don't allow women in this office to have Tasers. You guys know if we have any more dark roast? See, it's a judgment thing. And there's a man on CNN dressed like the mayor of Amity right now. I don't know why we're gonna have a Fourth of July. I don't care.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Amity means friendship.

[Steven Crowder]

I love that film.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Oh, why wouldn't you?

[Steven Crowder]

It's. It's. It's one of those where people see it now. Like, this was scary. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was scary. Just ignore the mechanical shark for a little bit. It's fine. Yeah, there you go. Oh, man, they pulled it up so quickly. Speaking of women, I think we all agree women shouldn't. Women with only Tasers shouldn't be police officers. There's not much more to say. Right?

[Ellie]

I think just in general.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Women in tasers belong in a bedroom.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Abby Phillip]

Yes.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Whoa.

[Steven Crowder]

Nick pays extra, huh? Well, he does pay for it, man.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Are you kidding me? Hey, give it to me nice.

[Steven Crowder]

Unless you count paying in charm.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Oh, I ran out of that third grade.

[Steven Crowder]

Now it's just charity.

[Nick DiPaolo]

This coffee's tremendous.

[Ellie]

Noodles. I need my courtesy laugh, so.

[Steven Crowder]

So here's the next one. Ellie, you know how women now are complaining they're not getting complimented. And. And I know you think, okay, so there's kind of a change now in culture where everything used to be considered a cat call and women want chivalry again. They want to be complimented. Okay, we're going back to traditional relationships. No, not exactly. Listen to this British woman who's overthinking, upset, and confused by a very kind compliment from a stranger.

[Abby Phillip]

An old man literally just stopped me and said, I don't mean to be rude, but you are absolutely gorgeous. And I looked at him, and I was like. And I just turned around and, like.

[Steven Crowder]

And then I'm thinking, like, is this.

[Abby Phillip]

Just me deeping it too much? Is he actually just, like, trying to be nice? And then I'm thinking, wait, no, that's me. My people pleasing brain switching on and trying to, like, excuse the fact that.

[Steven Crowder]

He just complimented you?

[Abby Phillip]

Outwardly said that I'm absolutely gorgeous, which is just, like, so unnecessary.

[Steven Crowder]

That's why it's a compliment.

[Abby Phillip]

Is that weird or am I just really deeping this now.

[Nick DiPaolo]

You're in love with yourself.

[Steven Crowder]

That's so weird.

[Abby Phillip]

Don't say that.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

That's just weird.

[Steven Crowder]

Ew. Okay. We won't.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Wait, are we seriously not.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not. Yeah. Thank you. Gosh, no, it never learns. I don't want to be accused of sa. That's the term you have to use on YouTube. Sexual assault. Yeah. Have you ever heard the term complimentary? It means it's unnecessary. It means it's like, ah, it's on the house. He gave you an on the house. Nice compliment. Yes.

[Nick DiPaolo]

She was fighting with her. With her instinct as enjoying that as a woman and the feminist horseshit she's been fed.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep. Just turned.

[Nick DiPaolo]

There's the fight. Right, Right. She was having it right there.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Out in the open and. And I just went through a little something like this I'm not gonna get into.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay.

[Nick DiPaolo]

But yeah, there's the.

[Steven Crowder]

There's the woman angel on the shoulder. And the feminist whore devil on the shoulder. I'm like, you like being told that you're pre. Tell him he's a rapist.

[Ellie]

She likes both. Here's how I know one. She should have just turned around and said, ah, thank you very much, and continued on her day with a smile on her face. Here's how I know she doesn't care. She's dressed like a whore in the video.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Thank you.

[Steven Crowder]

She's.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Thank you, Father Mulcahy.

[Ellie]

She's the tightest, skimpiest.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't know if somebody maybe told me that my body is not your body to look at. Can we clip a video?

[Nick DiPaolo]

Absolutely.

[Steven Crowder]

Son of a guy. Make a gift out of that, please?

[Nick DiPaolo]

Yeah, you don't want me to read.

[Steven Crowder]

Your lips in those pants, so think about this. Because I did a video on this along, what, 10 years ago? Yeah, 10 years.

[Ellie]

Better than we laughed at.

[Steven Crowder]

I couldn't. I couldn't hear it. Because you were crosstalking like the view. It was 10 years ago. I did it at a mall. And I remember I did these exact. Because people say, no, that's not cat calling. That's not cat calling is, you know, whistling or saying, hey, bitch. So I would tell people like, hey, you have very pretty eyes. Hey, can I just say, you're absolutely gorgeous. And back then people go, well, that's not offensive. No woman's bothered by that. Kind of. Like we were told, it stops at same sex marriage. No one's talking about trans. No one's talking about kids. Here we Are where a man said, excuse me, I don't mean to be rude, but you are absolutely gorgeous. Let me ask you this. People say, hey, approach women, it's okay. Have confidence. How would you approach someone you don't know? And you have nothing else to talk about other than the way they look. So you compliment the only thing you have in common. By the way, poor form. He was complimenting her and she turned around, the last thing he wanted her to do, and he said, hey, I don't mean to be rude, but you are absolutely gorgeous. And then stepped back like the aliens and signs in the cornfield. Just stepped back and let her take the initiative. And that's still a problem. Women, what do you want men to do? If a man is to approach a woman in public and it is unacceptable. And by the way, you may be saying, not me. Yeah, but men hear this and it's a cautionary tale. There are too many women who will be upset and make accusations because a man says, I'm sorry, excuse me, I don't mean to be rude. May I just say, you're absolutely gorgeous. So if that can't be allowed, how would a man do it? I'm sorry, excuse me, I don't mean to bother you. Can I have your phone number? That's more invasive. I'm sorry, I don't mean to bother you, but you got a pen there? That's nice. That's good. That's good. What is he supposed to say?

[Ellie]

No, he's supposed to hand a business card that shows his net worth is over $50 million. At which point she'll be like, thank you.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes, it's just him next to a measuring tape showing his height with today's newspaper.

[Nick DiPaolo]

The fact that she said, when he complimented, that was so unnecessary. So you know you're good looking. So on top of it, you're. You're in love with yourself.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Nick DiPaolo]

What other fucking generation spends more time staring at themselves in the mirror with their cell phones?

[Steven Crowder]

I know.

[Nick DiPaolo]

So now, first of all, I'm talking young girls. Gen Z, Gen X. They were raised to think they shit ice cream from their parents. Right? Now you got a layer of feminism on top of that.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, it ends up a big C. Yeah. Yes.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Now I just.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, here's the thing. There are real world consequences of this. Check the references. From 2000 to 2023, the number of high schoolers who are dating fell 43%. Largely because men are checking out. They're choosing not to walk into this trap. 44% of Gen Z Men have never had a girlfriend or boyfriend when they were teens. 45% of men aged 18 to 25 have never ever approached a woman in person. I wonder why. So here's the thing. The problem is not men and women are drifting further apart. The problem is not women can't find a good guy. The problem is very simple. Men are withdrawing. They're saying no, no, I don't want to get into trou. I saw them. Me too. And I've also seen ladies upset because you say hey, excuse me, I don't want to bother you, but you're absolutely gorgeous. So they are with withdrawing. How do you think this ends? Well, 53% of Gen Z adults, by the way, spend $0 per month on dating whatsoever. Dating is no longer a thing statistically when you take it in historical context for Gen Z feminists hate women. Let me be really straightforward. Police your own. Police your own. Because we can't fix. How's a man going to fix it? We have a penis. We're not allowed to have an opinion. Can't say you're pretty. Can't compliment you. Can't. Can't cold call you. He slid into my dms. How often do you hear someone complain? That's so creepy.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Well, let me ask you this, Stephen. Yeah, and I agree with that. But excuse me, with these young guys today, isn't. Doesn't that have a lot to do with how porn is?

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I mean, yeah, I'm not talking. Me too. I'm just saying if we had that type of porn and access to it when. When I was their age, would I might not be dating either? Well, no, because Rob went out and go to bed. It's nice. Say 50 bucks a margaritas.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Don't end up in court.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Yeah, you got.

[Steven Crowder]

No, it's a real thing.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I'm not even bringing that part into it. I'm just saying.

[Steven Crowder]

No, but that's a very. So yes. Porn by the way, also brought you courtesy of feminism, sexual liberation.

[Nick DiPaolo]

That's right.

[Steven Crowder]

Larry Flint was thrilled with it. Kinsey, Hugh Hefner were thrilled with it. And you now have unfettered access to porn. That's risk free, entirely selfish. Right. Okay, do I want that and an AI girlfriend and a robot doll with moisture wicking properties or what property or. I don't know if that's the accurate I saw on.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I thought you said she owned property.

[Ellie]

Nick, let me introduce you to.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, she will when she's through with him.

[Nick DiPaolo]

She had money. What's that?

[Steven Crowder]

What was that?

[Ellie]

Let me Introduce you to Asian culture. We've done stories on this.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Robots that seem. Oh, don't. No. Risk versus I could get embroiled and there's no way to know the rules. I will tell you this. Before feminism, and really, I would say before the 1990s, there would never be a single woman. Not one. And I mean not one. Down to the single, desperate. I'm not. This is not hyperbole. Who would be upset by a man saying, I'm sorry, I don't mean to bother you. I just want to say you're absolutely gorgeous. It would never have happened. Assuming the guy is mildly attractive. If he's ugly, of course it would.

[Nick DiPaolo]

What if he was doing this? What in God's name.

[Steven Crowder]

I don't know, Gerald. It's a family show. Do better, Pump is Free, make better decisions. But no, Nick, that's a very good point. It's the confidence.

[Ellie]

All of you.

[Nick DiPaolo]

The confluence. Yes, but you know what women do.

[Steven Crowder]

Is they blame pornography. They go, well, that's just because of your precious porno. Well, first off, you starred in it. Second.

[Nick DiPaolo]

You are very good.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Why would. I love your work, by the way? I am familiar with the entire catalog, but.

[Ellie]

Terrible.

[Nick DiPaolo]

You have blown more pizza guys than I have.

[Steven Crowder]

I'm very familiar with butt parties 1 through 12.

[Nick DiPaolo]

It is just Parties of pirates.

[Steven Crowder]

That's something.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I was in one of those. I was in the sequel.

[Steven Crowder]

That's true. Well, actually, you had a multi episode arc.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I did, and they didn't like me in the third episode. And they said, put your foreign stick back in your pants and get out of here. And I said, listen, Frank, they said, what's the.

[Steven Crowder]

We thought you were Sicilian. Now, Cecilia, that's Bernard.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I have to.

[Ellie]

I have to interrupt.

[Steven Crowder]

What?

[Ellie]

This is really good news.

[Steven Crowder]

What?

[Ellie]

They're not happy.

[Steven Crowder]

What? The New York Appeals court voids nearly $500 million civil fraud penalty against Donald Trump.

[Ellie]

Remember the civil trial Tisha James brought?

[Steven Crowder]

Is it.

[Ellie]

I think that's the right.

[Nick DiPaolo]

So he's three and.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, it just got voided.

[Ellie]

It just got voided.

[Steven Crowder]

This is what I've always told you. And here's the thing. Kind of like when they say Donald Trump is a rapist. Donald Trump is a serial convicted felon. They said, Donald. Well, look, Donald Trump, he's actually, he. This is unconstitutional. Well, no, the court has voided. Now, her argument. Her argument was it was unconstitutional. We didn't have. So there's the PR battle and then there's what happens in court. And they're two Very, very different.

[Nick DiPaolo]

And they still won't. They still won't give it.

[Ellie]

They're still saying, well, he's liable for fraud, but 500 million. Geez.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Ellie]

Everybody was happy in this equation. I don't know what we're doing here.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. I'm trying to remember. There's so many suits.

[Ellie]

So this, this is the, this is the inflating the price of Mar A Lago and his real estate.

[Nick DiPaolo]

That one never had a chance.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Ellie]

And so they find him 500. Well, actually it was. I think it was lower than that. But with penalties and everything, he's now not having to pay that.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. I thought this was a different suit where she was trying to stop him or fining him because he was withholding federal funds. That was another suit.

[Nick DiPaolo]

That's a different.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, all right, sorry.

[Nick DiPaolo]

This was the most frivolous.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Everybody was like, what?

[Ellie]

Yeah, the bank's happy, Trump's happy, everybody's happy. That was what the records show.

[Nick DiPaolo]

What even rappers like. No, he'd be off on that one.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Exactly.

[Nick DiPaolo]

That's a 1 to 5.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. They would use you as a face of their gang, as a model citizen. Like, you would get a slap on the wrist. Think about this. For us, it would be like for you to compare or to sort of put yourself in his shoes. Say you filed your taxes and you had one expense that was wrong or was improperly filed. Okay. And everything else was right. And then you go to jail or you get a $500 million fine. That's pretty much it. That, like, it's that simple. Except in this case, everyone was happy because it was voluntary. The banks were happy, Donald Trump was happy, people were happy.

[Nick DiPaolo]

And it's how business has been done forever.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Nick DiPaolo]

And if he lost that, it would kill business in New York City, right?

[Steven Crowder]

Nope. That's a very good point. But the left doesn't care about you, the average working American. You pay taxes. They don't care. Hey, I tell you who does care?

[Ellie]

Say it.

[Steven Crowder]

The Jews. Now, on the show last night, Megyn Kelly spoke to Marjorie Taylor Greene about the fact that. Well, I don't know if they were talking in this clip about the recruiting, but it is true that Israel now is trying to actively recruit American citizens to voluntarily, to be clear, voluntarily take part in the war on Gaza. But Megyn Kelly, Marjorie Taylor Greene, were talking about Israel influenced members of Congress.

[Abby Phillip]

Israel is the only country I know of that has some sort of incredible influence and control over nearly every single one of my colleagues. And it is it is. I don't know how to explain it. I mean, I believe it just given the amount of reach out I've had in this position. They invite pretty much everyone to my knowledge. So they take them on this trip to Israel. They, I guess they go on tours all around. I didn't go, so I don't know what they do there, but they take them on tours. Like the pictures we've seen recently of the speaker and other members of Congress at the Wailing Wall. They've all gone. They've all gone. And they wear the kippah. And even though they're Christians, they're not Jewish, but yet they're adorning Jewish attire.

[Ellie]

You have to, to go to the Wailing line.

[Abby Phillip]

They're at these Jewish religious sites. Then they also meet with different members of the Israeli government. Now we got to recognize the Israeli government is secular. This is not the biblical Israel. It is the secular government of Israel.

[Steven Crowder]

So let me make a point. Here is a lot of what she just said is tr. To be clear. I was invited, by the way, several times on Tuesday. Israel, you just informed me this morning. I didn't realize it was actually the government because they were just people who said, hey, do you want to go? I was like, ah, I'm kind of busy. So it's that easy to say no. They're like, okay, cool works too. But they do, they definitely do try and gain influence. And I understand. But here's the thing though, everyone does it. And the idea that Israel does it more than others, I mean, you really would have to look at China and Qatar and it's not even close. But I do agree with that. I understand the idea of it. I understand the idea of outside influence. And what she just said is true. They do send out invites for people to go to Israel and of course they're looking for a photo opportunity. And I understand why people might have a problem with that if it also translates parlays into determining foreign policy. So this brings us to right now, the idf, they're actually looking at recruiting and trying to recruit American Jews for a new offensive in Gaza ahead of the government's plan to launch a full scale occupation of Gaza's city. Tel Aviv is calling up 60,000 reservists amid a severe shortage of troops. Emergency draft orders have already been issued and soldiers currently deployed are having their service extended. Desperate for manpower, Israel is now eyeing Jewish communities abroad, targeting youth in the US and France, hoping to recruit 700 foreigners a year. Yes, you heard that right. Israel is recruiting Americans for their war. Though some would say that their self made recruiting campaign was poorly received. Yeah, they lack self awareness.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Oh my God, it's my agent Sal. The hell's William Morris doing on the.

[Steven Crowder]

Look, I don't know why they would put that out themselves. I guess they don't. It's a little bit weird. Here's the thing. This isn't new. Since the start of the war, there's an estimated about 1200Americans serving. The idea Americans can go and die for any cause that they want. The term is usually used lone soldiers. I remember a guy who was a gun youtuber who I believe had some kind of terminal illness and so he went to go fight for Ukraine because he thought, I'll go out on my terms. Yeah, yeah. People do this stuff all the time. But I understand like this is also just, it's, this is not good optics. It doesn't mean that Americans are being sent to die for Israel. There are Americans voluntarily doing it, but come on, Israel do better with the PR.

[Ellie]

Well, and it's 700 people. I mean an estimated that 1200 have served so far. It's not like these numbers are like shifting the tables any like. It's not like Gaza's gonna take over and Israel needs more bodies for that. I'm like, that seems a little weird. I don't know that the optics are worth it. This way. Again, Marjorie Taylor Greene said some things that were true, some things that were false. Like you said government influence. I don't like people going over there. I don't like the people doing this. It's like, well, if you're gonna go to the wailing wall, you have to put the kip on. You can either go to the wailing wall and put it on or not go to the wailing Wall.

[Steven Crowder]

Those are the rules. It's different from if you're walking around the street and you had to wear it. But like I get it, it's a.

[Ellie]

Holy place for them. And so they're like, hey, can you observe this tradition for us, please? I know you're not Jewish, but that's fine.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Yeah, it's going a Fenway, the Green Monster. You have to put the Red Sox out on.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Or the WNBA with a green dildo.

[Ellie]

And look, we, we have conversations about this in all the wrong ways.

[Steven Crowder]

Right.

[Ellie]

We talk about, is there a moral duty for Christians in any way, shape or form to do anything for Israel? And typically people run to the extremes. We talked about this the other day and I, I think we have to have Better conversations about this where you can agree with Marjorie Taylor Greene where she's right and you can disagree where she's wrong. You're not a shill for Israel and you're not a Nazi at the same time. And honestly, I'm getting so frustrated with this because I think it ends in a really bad place. I wanted to start that conversation with Andrew Wilson going through this step by step.

[Steven Crowder]

And we have that Friday, we're talking about Christians. This sucks. Yes, most Jews globally did not migrate to Israel Fair.

[Ellie]

But there's a reason other than most.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Most of them must not have thought that their safety was nearly as much in jeopardy as you seem to claim. They were attacking the British to get.

[Ellie]

Them the hell out of there so they couldn't think.

[Steven Crowder]

They had tons of security and weapons agreements with Western nations.

[Ellie]

I'm glad to see that Dave Smith has come around to my point of view, and he will hate that I said that, by the way.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, fewer Jews have died.

[Ellie]

So it goes back to the number.

[Steven Crowder]

Fewer Jews have died anyway, is the question.

[Ellie]

Yes, maybe.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah, it's kind of cycling completely. The Jews. All right, so tune into that. It's a bonus on Friday afternoon, actually. Steven. Yeah, what is it, Sam? Can't you see we're in the middle of a show? We're doing a show right now. I can see that, Steven. I'm very sorry, but I need you to approve some PTO requests for me. I've been saving up my time, and I'd like to take my time off right now and also in bulk. Fine. I understand that you have a duty to your. I think I know what's happening here. What's that, Sam? This is an AR15 rifle. Josh recommended it. It's what the IDF uses. No, you're not super familiar with guns. That's actually. That's not what you want if you're. If you're going. Yeah, no, that's not what you want. You know what? I think I have something for, like, a weapon of war. Yeah, take that. That's. That's my lever action. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want an ar. I don't know, Josh. Is he. He's pulling your leg. You don't want an ar. Yeah. There you go. You're all set. Hey, I like this. Yeah, Rack it like you mean it. You got to rack it like you mean it. Yeah. There you go, Sam. Yeah, Good. Let me hair yourself, jihadi scum, because it's about to be the summer of Sam. Good. That's a good line. Good. Yeah. Be sure to take that with you. Okay. You're welcome. You can go. Steven. Yeah. I have to discipline you for a infraction earlier, so you have to be in my office. Well, let's deal with that when you get back. Get out. That's enough. That's a no. You're gonna like that. You'll have an unfair advantage.

[Ellie]

Make sure you say the one liner.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Son of Sam. Berkowitz.

[Steven Crowder]

He was so good with the dog.

[Ellie]

Loved him.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Berkowitz.

[Ellie]

Talked to him all the time.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Yeah, worked right in the sketchy. A nice Jewish thing.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, before we get to.

[Nick DiPaolo]

That's what I was pointing out. Anybody grab hold of.

[Steven Crowder]

I totally missed that. Wow. It's layered, as Oprah would say. Which means in her case, I mean, she doesn't understand it. Like, I like it because it's layered. Oh, you didn't get this at all.

[Nick DiPaolo]

When she says that, she's talking about lasagna.

[Steven Crowder]

Hey, hey. I forgot. I forgot. You know how everyone, like a lot of people do super chats where you send them, like, a bunch of money and they go, hey, thank you. Cool. You can give them money. Yeah. We don't let you do that. The only way you can support us is by joining, you know, Mug Club. Really? Rumble Premium now. But we do the opposite.

[Ellie]

Yes, we do.

[Steven Crowder]

We give you free things. Free money. It's time for Reverse Super Chat. There you go. Reverse Super Chat. Brought to you, by the way, by PureTalk. It's 100% a United States based company. Fun Veteran LED. You can save 50% off your first month. Go to PureTalk.com Crowder. I use them. It's less expensive and I can actually get someone on the phone immediately, which helped quite a bit. Just don't switch phones over on the phone that you're canceling. And we're giving away free Rumble Premium subscriptions. They were just gifted in chat. 50. Yep. Right now. 50.

[Ellie]

So if you got one of them right now, do a screenshot or something, let us know. You got it. We'd welcome you to the club and. Yeah, you're gonna have fun.

[Steven Crowder]

Is that it? Enjoy it. All right. Yes, that is PureTalk.com Crowder. That's been reverse Super Chat. Were you about to say something?

[Nick DiPaolo]

That's the first time I ever saw Andrew Wilson. My lead in.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, yeah. He's been off for a little while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, his wife was just recovering from. I think he's talked about that. I don't think I'm letting the cat out.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Of the back.

[Steven Crowder]

Some surgery. So he was.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I didn't. I didn't know. I had no idea what he looked like or.

[Steven Crowder]

He's a. He's a sharp dude who a lot of people hate. So he's right up your alley. Why they hate him because he embarrasses bimbos on the daily. He does that whatever podcast will put together a bunch of, like, women. And he just takes over Ellie. So people think that is a good lead in. Yeah, well, people think he's a dick. That's not the show. But he. Then on his own show, he's very reasonable. But he's. He matches intensity and he does.

[Ellie]

Sometimes I find that out the hard way.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Nick DiPaolo]

If you're a white guy and you haven't called a dick 40 times in the last year. Not trying.

[Steven Crowder]

No. Exactly. You certainly haven't told somebody. I don't mean to be rude, but yeah, you're gorgeous.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Exactly. Any of that. I told that lady she had to be. And I'm not exaggerating, had to be mid. Early to mid-70s. That she was beautiful. At the airport.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Nick DiPaolo]

In Savannah. She had like.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Piercing blue eyes and.

[Steven Crowder]

What did she say?

[Nick DiPaolo]

She goes, so are you.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, no, that's not what I was looking for. No. Come on. That's pretty good, though. Yeah.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I want to hear that from an 18 year old.

[Steven Crowder]

It's good to know that you still have a shot with the 70 year old.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Oh, for the love of Pete.

[Steven Crowder]

It's. You know, that's. I forgot.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Funnier when I clean it up.

[Steven Crowder]

He was. Do you know how many dentures get.

[Ellie]

Thrown on his stage when he performs?

[Steven Crowder]

Come on. It's like Tom Jones.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Now, wait a minute. It was a real teeth.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, that was one of his.

[Nick DiPaolo]

A lot of meth fans.

[Steven Crowder]

Adult series was Cocoon.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I thought I was gonna have a running part. That too.

[Steven Crowder]

I will tell you this. I had it. I had it just the other day was. And it's almost. If I've ever been complimented.

[Nick DiPaolo]

You're a hunk.

[Steven Crowder]

It's older black women. And I just walking by, she goes. She goes, you got hair like that celebrity? And I said, oh. She goes, wolverine. Oh, yeah. Wow. Wow. That's all she. And I was like, oh. She's like, I like Wolverine.

[Nick DiPaolo]

The lady said that to me too. Wolverine. I said, you're talking about Whoopi. Get out of the way.

[Steven Crowder]

They will. They will.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I'm telling you, all black women are great.

[Steven Crowder]

They're. They're just. It's like a slice of Americana that We don't have anymore down South.

[Nick DiPaolo]

You got it.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Ellie]

Trying to beat it up.

[Nick DiPaolo]

That's the biggest difference. Down South.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep.

[Nick DiPaolo]

You see it. A lot more integration because they've integrated longer.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I mean, compared to when I was living in New York and Boston, where it's just the hate.

[Steven Crowder]

I know.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Which I like the hate better. But I'm just saying.

[Steven Crowder]

But that's actually a great point. They think they're more progressive because they're all liberal Democrats. It's like, actually, you guys just think of Manhattan, how segregated you are compared to an area of Texas or Georgia.

[Nick DiPaolo]

That's right. I mean, I see black people and white people having dinner together, like older black people. I've been going to church together. I never saw that in the Northeast.

[Steven Crowder]

No.

[Nick DiPaolo]

And that's how I like the Northeast.

[Steven Crowder]

Listen.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Yeah, that's a joke, folks.

[Steven Crowder]

Geographically, it's a give and take, you know, and depending on the neighborhood, they take. So. Yeah.

[Nick DiPaolo]

The wing. Stop.

[Ellie]

Bicycles.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Wing by 20.

[Steven Crowder]

Waffle House.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Oh, I love the oil.

[Steven Crowder]

You see what happened with Cracker Barrel? Anyway, we'll talk about that in my club. It's terrible. They got a new. They got a new DEI female CEO who removed from the logo both the cracker and the barrel.

[Ellie]

It's not just the logo.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh. Everything about it.

[Ellie]

Some of the restaurants and it's like, what is this?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. They're like, we want to make it more modern. Because that's what people want at Cracker Barrel. They want it to be an Apple store.

[Nick DiPaolo]

It's just they talk, they. They scream appropriation.

[Steven Crowder]

I know.

[Nick DiPaolo]

They take every American great iconic song and they put their dog shit beat behind it.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah.

[Ellie]

Widest brand ever.

[Steven Crowder]

I know.

[Nick DiPaolo]

No, they are. That's.

[Steven Crowder]

What are you doing to it?

[Nick DiPaolo]

I don't know if that's ever going to stop as much as much roadway Trump has made.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, what's funny is that these DEI socialists are the ones ruining capitalism. It's DEI socialist Karen CEOs who are ruining capitalism. They step in, they go, look, we'll bleed this dry and then we'll file bankruptcy. So then they go, look, the capital system doesn't work because you came in and you tried to make Cracker Barrel an Apple diversity store. Of course it didn't work. And then they crater the entire system and blame something. Something Donald Trump. Speaking of which.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Although I got to admit, you can't have a genius part to you Cracker Barrel.

[Steven Crowder]

No. No. Well, you can't have a genius bar at Apple either. You took a weekend course on the iPad. Not a member of Mensa.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I was a bouncer there.

[Steven Crowder]

It's just an excuse to beat nerds up, which I guess, who needs an excuse? What? Speaking of getting beaten up. Washington D.C. washington D.C. remember? The protests, the outrage. Donald Trump, well within his constitutional authority, decided to basically federalize Washington D.C. we covered that when it happened. It's been in effect for 10 days and it's extra, extra fascisty. A federal takeover of Washington D.C. has been plainly pretextual.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

They have agents harassing this man, asking him why he's scared. What he's scared of, like the whole Trump administration isn't harassing and detaining immigrants. People who speak Spanish isn't racially profiling.

[Steven Crowder]

People who speak people. Emergency, folks, listen. The emergency is Donald Trump. It is not anything else. You guys are breaking. You're not even from here. Piss off every last one off the streets. You're not here for us. You're right. They're not there for privileged white people.

[Ellie]

That's right.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Trump's takeover of federal law isn't about.

[Steven Crowder]

Taking crime seriously or keeping America safe.

[Nick DiPaolo]

A dick with glasses.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Whether you're punishing immigrants with no criminal.

[Steven Crowder]

Records or people living in blue cities that didn't vote for Donald Trump or Democratic politicians. Trump doesn't like. It doesn't matter if you voted for him. It's like the money king. Oh, I didn't vote for. You don't vote for a king. I'm not saying he's a king. Saying it doesn't matter. In D.C. he has the authority to do so. It doesn't matter if those people committing the crimes didn't vote for him. Also, by the way, they were saying that they're going to stage a counter. And ICE is as a matter of fact, and has staged their own counter protest. All right, everyone freeze. Yeah, it wasn't as intimidating as they thought it would be. Let's get into it with capital of crime. And this is where you see a disconnect in voting versus your actual day to day life. Because we know that black Americans tend to vote overwhelmingly Democratic. Here's the thing, you're gonna see some montages here. The people who are upset, the people who are upset about this are the wealthy white elites in D.C. who spend their time on the Hill, the people who have to live with the crime, the people who see the net benefits. They're actually fans of it. So we talk about appropriation a lot. Hey, how about, how about we stigmatize more white people speaking on behalf of black people? How about that, because that seems to be what we see a lot of from the Democrat party comment if you're actually one of the blacks and you maybe have a problem with it, because here are the numbers they're in. This is from the D.C. police Union. Okay? Robbery is down 46%. Carjacking down 6%. Assault with deadly weapon 83%. Car theft down 21%. Violent crime overall down 22%. All crime, all crime down 8%. And there hasn't been a homicide in the summertime time, which is homicide season in seven days, which, by the way, makes it the first time there hasn't been a homicide in the summer in seven days since. Ever, ever, ever. There has never been a seven day gap in the summertime without a homicide in Washington D.C. you just can't keep giving him the wins.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Yeah, pull the quote.

[Ellie]

Do me a favor. Pull the stats back up from the police.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Yo, them are white number statistics.

[Ellie]

Yeah. Look at the bottom of this. While federal assistance gives us a boost, we must repeal the misguided Comprehensive Policing Justice Reform act to make these changes permanent. What they're telling us is the policies.

[Steven Crowder]

Yes.

[Ellie]

Need to change to make. We can make this permanent. You can have lower crime permanently without the troops if you will just let us do our job. These guys are showing you what the world could be like.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. And here's the thing. I want to show you two videos here, a montage of the D.C. residents, those who lived in the crime ridden areas who are most affected, and their opinions. And then we'll show you the opinions of the protesters. And I want to see if you can sort of spot the differences. Here are the D.C. residents. So now y' all mad at Trump for cleaning up D.C. listen, I'm. I'm in the middle. I don't. I don't. I don't rock with either party, but if Biden or Kamala was doing this, y' all would be happy. Real talk. Like, y' all know the little young Y ends is out of control, man. And y' all sick of them too. But again, y' all seem like outraged about anything. I think it's a good thing because you know what I'm saying, it's better for the community and safer for the kids. Stop the violence. You know what I'm saying? Thugs not slugs. Finally able to chill at a red light. Perfect. There's no fat on that ride through the city. Jesus.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Feeling more safe than I ever felt.

[Abby Phillip]

It feels different.

[Steven Crowder]

Like usually when I walk through, it's got this darkness. It's like darkness. Some sort of semi demi hook at night.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

And now it feels more light, upbeat.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Amen, sweetheart.

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. And you know what? For everyone who does say because of racist or whatever, let me just tell you something. Seeing that, I just want you to know that's why we do this. It's heartwarming. It's heartwarming for me to see people see. You can have a life like this. I would just. I just pray that they finish the logic circle and connect the dots and go, do you see? You love the change, right? And I want you to live a life with this change. I want you to live in a neighborhood that's safe for just like all of the other neighborhoods across this country outside of the ones under Democrat rule and pandering to the black population policy. Please. It can be like, it can be Christmas every day now.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Kwanzaa.

[Steven Crowder]

Celebrate Kwanzaa. They don't even know what it is. Guy was named Ron Everett. Beat a few bitches with a soldering iron. Called it a holiday. Now. Really?

[Nick DiPaolo]

Really?

[Steven Crowder]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Nick DiPaolo]

I'm gonna stop buying a chair.

[Ellie]

Soldering irons or no bitches.

[Steven Crowder]

Well, so they're happy about it. All right. Talk about cultural appropriation. How about being a false mouthpiece? You know what? Let's call it this. How about the dnc? How about you stop with the false white prophecies on behalf of black people? Because here are the folks who are protesting and not happy about it. See if you spot the trend. You have hundreds of people right now.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Marching across D.C. protesting Donald Trump's mobilization.

[Steven Crowder]

Of the National Guard, protesting his federal takeover of the local law enforcement. Pause, pause. Look at it. I think if I'm not mistaken. Rewind it a couple frames. If I'm not mistaken, I think that's a very expensive all clad pan. Oh, my God. I think that is a several hundred dollar. Yeah, they're expensive pans.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Yeah.

[Steven Crowder]

Is there any more clear example of white privilege than a lady with a logo that looks like a Klansman? I'm not. Hilarious.

[Ellie]

Are we all missing the logo on her shirt?

[Nick DiPaolo]

Look at the one in the back. Spanging a crock pot. Pressure cooker.

[Steven Crowder]

That would be great. Swap it with a pressure cooker. Don't tell her. Maybe a few nails now.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Yeah, exactly.

[Steven Crowder]

Woman banging a lifetime warrantied luxury item with a copper core on behalf of black people who want the exact opposite of her. If we're talking about people who shouldn't be allowed to vote, it's that broad in the Klan red T shirt. Let's continue. What else could it be? It's a Rorschach test for you. Every year they break it up. You go, Klansman. Next one Klansman. Next one Klansman. Next one treated with the noose. Klansman.

[Nick DiPaolo]

She looks like.

[Steven Crowder]

No, no.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Gingrich. Transitioning.

[Steven Crowder]

Also.

[Nick DiPaolo]

There's your price point.

[Steven Crowder]

There you go.

[Abby Phillip]

Wow.

[Steven Crowder]

That's it. It is that, isn't it? It looks like that pan. Yes. Yeah. Hold on. Let me. Let me expound upon this. Not only does she have. Is that all clad or steel clad, not only does she have some of the most expensive commercial quality pans available, she has so much disposable income that she can use that pan for street banging on behalf of poor black people advocating that, you know, they still live in crack dens and risk being shot. But let's continue with the montage here.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Is that white rhythm. We know.

[Ellie]

Nary a black man, you be Nazis.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Look at that. Nerdish.

[Steven Crowder]

Housing and climate justice. Oh, you need it quit.

[Ellie]

You're going to want to focus your protesting my city.

[Steven Crowder]

Oh, it's your city. It's your city. Do I have that right? It's your city. You hear that one person say, you're not here for us? You're right. You're right. They're kind of not there for you because you guys get on the train or you drive yourself back out to Arlington or you live in a wealthy area or you intern with some kind of foundation or think tank. The people living it, by the way, I'm going to give you the answer here. Here's a cheat sheet. Spot the difference. Here you go. Here you go. The people who are happy about the lowered crime on the top and the people who lament it on the bottom. See the difference? Hugs, not slugs, by the way. Give that man the Nobel Peace Prize. That's true.

[Nick DiPaolo]

And the ones on the bottom, fresh off college campus.

[Steven Crowder]

Yep, fresh off college campus. I'm speaking on behalf of those who can't speak. You think that black people can't speak?

[Nick DiPaolo]

Yeah, they're quiet. They're quiet. 14% you'.

[Steven Crowder]

To give you an idea how off these people, meaning those on the left and by the way, those in media. And Nick knows this all too well. He's had to deal with this. He's the OG for a very, very long time in the entertainment industry and in news media. And by the way, a lot of people don't give Nick the credit that he deserves because I hope this doesn't offend him. He had doors slammed in his face repeatedly because he was always this guy. Back when you couldn't be this guy. The media hates you. They want you to live in a crime infested city because then it's easier to make promises and control you. And just to show you how moronic and anti American this is, and by the way, kind of racist, here are some posts from Reddit, Washington, the Washington D.C. thread, it says it's titled. As a sixth generation Washingtonian, I am angry. I am angry that people in power say that, say those that don't agree with them are just paid protesters or stupid communists.

[Ellie]

You are.

[Steven Crowder]

I am angry that this city and its residents are being insulted. I am angry that our city is being made an example of. You made yourself an example. And I am angry at myself because I don't know enough on how to engage and make this stop. Please help our city. And any advice on how to fight back? Well, that's the problem, is you've been fighting too much. That's the problem right there. I don't know. Stop there. You don't know enough. You don't know enough. Crime is down. And let me ask you this, has anyone's personal freedoms been infringed upon? Anyone? Criminals? Yeah, but we're not talking about constitutional violations, we're talking about criminals and the presence, the presence of some kind of a policing force. Hey, isn't that what you want? If crime goes down, that's where you actually could make the case that the police can be less involved. They're less intrusive in your life when you have law and order. Here's the top comment on Reddit. I am a tour guide and do you think anyone wants a tour of D.C. anytime in the future? Now, I would argue probably more. Yes. He F'd the city bad. Restaurants, retail tours, everything that was barely hanging on just got kicked in the balls really hard by lowered crime. Yeah, get small businesses while it's down. Make sure it never gets up again. So let me get this straight. Less crime hurts small businesses more than the perpetual lockdowns you supported? Hey, is anyone being locked down? Are any of these businesses being stopped from operating? Hey, you know what? Better yet, you say you speak on behalf of them. Let's ask the small businesses, more importantly, let's ask the small businesses in the areas that were affected by crime. Why do you hate this country? And why do you hate the Black residents of D.C. by the way, the Trump administration is not backing down. This is a master class in how we always should have been dealing with the left.

[Nick DiPaolo]

This is the guy who thinks people don't deserve law and order.

[Steven Crowder]

And they're up community perfect too long.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Oh my. Of this city has been terrorized by.

[Steven Crowder]

1% of the city.

[Nick DiPaolo]

And the voices that you hear out.

[Steven Crowder]

There, those crazy communists, they have no roots, they have no connections to the city.

[Nick DiPaolo]

They have no families. They are raising this city.

[Steven Crowder]

They have no one that they are sending to school in the city. They have no jobs in the city. They have no connections to this community at all. Most of the citizens who live in Washington D.C. are black. This is not a city that has.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Had any safety for its black citizens for generations.

[Steven Crowder]

So we're going to ignore these stupid white hippies.

[Nick DiPaolo]

MVP right there. We're going to get back to the.

[Steven Crowder]

Business of protecting the American people and the citizens of Washington D.C. by the way, that's a fact. D.C. if it happened to be a state it's not would be the blackest state in the United States with 47.2%. Here's another one when they say this is not what we want. Look at the polling on crime. President Trump has a plus one favorable contrast to Biden when he left in 2024. A net negative. A negative 26.

[Ellie]

Wow.

[Steven Crowder]

With unfavorable. So who do you think speaks on behalf of the average American citizen? Do you think it's cnn, abc, NBC, cbs, msnbc, all the paid agitators or America at large and the people most affected by crime? And then you would have to ask why is there such a disconnect? Well, it's because these people hate you and they want you under their thumb. If you disagree, hey, comment below. This has been capital of crime. We gonna be right here. We ain't going nowhere. Welcome to dc. Welcome to DC and just because I'm probably not going to able to help myself with the next segment, a little bit I'll mention now. Hey look, none of this happens. None of this happens if you guys don't. We're supported by viewers like you. Rumble Premium. Mug Club has become Rumble Premium. Rumble Premium is Mug Club. You get the entire network now. You get everything ad free. You get this hand etched mug still with the Rumble logo on there for $99 a year and it allows this content to continue. It's supports the lineup as you watch an entire day of free content. And by the way, this is the longest standing, longest running conservative show in the world out there. Yep, out there. It's been a lot of since 2008. I just was made aware of that this morning. And that's because of you guys. So we appreciate it. Thank you. We really appreciate it. If you want. If you want another what, another 15 years, you know, just join up. That's it.

[Ellie]

Give us 50, Steven.

[Steven Crowder]

For the price of a cup of coffee, you can irritate Nick DePaulo and NickPip Dot for all his dates. For all his dates. Funniest man alive. I cannot recommend going to a live show enough. Do not heckle because you think you want him to roast you. It's not going to end up how you think.

[Ellie]

I'm going on the 18th. I might heckle.

[Steven Crowder]

Don't, don't.

[Ellie]

I might, just for fun. Nick, come on. Make an occasion.

[Steven Crowder]

It's not vaudeville.

[Nick DiPaolo]

You stay home with your kids.

[Steven Crowder]

You know what's funny is that genuinely sounded like an act of mercy. It did.

[Ellie]

It really did. He was like, you don't want none of this heat.

[Steven Crowder]

You don't want none of this heat. He'll knock you in tomorrow, kid. I thought Apollo was tough, man.

[Nick DiPaolo]

You didn't see the punchline coming.

[Steven Crowder]

Nick's hungry.

[Nick DiPaolo]

You're blind.

[Steven Crowder]

Go with this.

[Nick DiPaolo]

You need a manager. A Jew manager.

[Steven Crowder]

Actually, he was Jewish. Mickey. Probably have the black manager be like, I watched you insult this man, Nick Depaolo, and I watched that dirty guinea keep coming for you with everything he had. We don't need that kind of man. And all that. One of my favorite in all of.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Oh, my God.

[Steven Crowder]

All right, so we're gonna get to Abby Phillips, and I'm just gonna play Pause this thing live because I watched it yesterday, and I was just play. And we often prepare these things for you. We make all the references available, but sometimes I just have to let it fly. The premise for this is. On Tuesday, President Trump posted on Truth Social. He said the museums throughout Washington, but all over the country are essentially the last remaining segment of Woke. Woke. The last one vestige's last ones. The Smithsonian is out of control, where everything discussed is how horrible our country is, how bad slavery was, and how unaccomplished the downtrodden have been. Nothing about success, nothing about brightness, nothing about the future. We are not going to allow this to happen. And I have instructed my attorneys to go through the museum and start the exact same process that has been done with colleges and universities where tremendous progress has been made. This country cannot be woke because woke is broke. Hugs, not slugs. We have the hottest country in the world, and we want people to talk about it, including in our museums. So before we get, do we have the first Abbey Club, or we're just gonna Go with the video, the whole thing.

[Nick DiPaolo]

Now you want to set it up with her meltdown.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, so I'll set this. So he was saying, and to be really clear, these museums just focus on slavery and not the great success, you know, also ending slavery, not the optimistic future that America offers, which is why more people want in this country than anywhere else. I want to ask you this. When you read that, did you think at any point that Donald Trump said slavery is good or that Donald Trump, President Trump, even implied that slavery wasn't bad? Because that's exactly how Abby Phillip took it when she had her meltdown.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I'm Abby Phillip in New York. Last week on this show, a guest shocked the table by arguing, in part, that slavery in America can't just be blamed on one race and that museums put too much focus on the role of white people who participated in that terrible institution.

[Steven Crowder]

All right, you know what? Let's just cut. Okay, look, she uploaded this, and it didn't go how she thought it was going to go because these people live in an echo chamber and they're completely tone deaf. So I'm gonna go through this in real time just to be clear and point by point, why everything she says is wrong, it's dishonest, it's misleading, and Americans are tired of it. Let's just start playing the upload from Abby herself, thinking, hey, this is convincing.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Donald Trump says that one of the reasons for his crackdown on Smithsonian museums is, quote, everything discussed is how bad slavery was. What we try to do on this program is create a platform for discussion and debate, debate that reflects the very real differences that exist in this country. It's what echo chambers in our society fail to do, frankly. But on this topic, it's important to say objectively, slavery was indeed bad.

[Steven Crowder]

Pause, pause. See what she just did there? This is how she starts it off, by the way. She starts it off by saying, someone here said that we can't just attribute slavery to one race. That's true, though. That's true. I don't know if you know this, but slavery is practiced by every race on the planet except for right now in 2025. White people, Western civilization. It's practiced by Asians, it's practiced by Arabs. It's practiced all across the continent of Africa. So. So you can say that that's offensive somehow, but it's accurate and right. Here she goes, we don't want echo chambers. This echo chamber is not a good thing. We want real debate and the real differences. So let me be honest. In Saying in contrast to Trump, slavery is bad. Oh, looks to me like you're in an echo chamber, because somehow you think that Donald Trump. Or wait, maybe you don't. You're lying and want to misrepresent President Trump's position, as though in any fashion, state form, he implied that slavery was. Okay, let's keep playing.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Was evil the nation's original sin. And it is impossible to understand the true history of this country without fully grappling with slavery's impact.

[Steven Crowder]

Pause. No, that's incorrect. That's incorrect. It is impossible to understand the history of the United States without first understanding the history of the world. That's important. You want to start off with the United States. But that's kind of. Not kind of. It's entirely disingenuous. Let me just sort of make the case here. Throughout all of human history, the world practiced slavery. That's why it happened in the United States. The world practiced slavery. The world enslaved people. The world then sold those slaves to the one country who had the conscience and enshrined it into their constitution that they were uniquely going to end this evil. So you want to start with the United States? Let's start with the world. Because then when you add up thousand years of civilization, it's kind of unique. It's kind of unique that a free country, that a new country in the span of only a hundred, a couple of hundred years, ended something that went on for thousands of years everywhere else, including the cradle of civilization. I should also. One caveat. Sorry. We ended it here and the Western world, because I don't know if you know this. It's still the way of the world outside of your privileged bubble. 50 million slaves on Earth today, more than ever in human history. How do you think that happens? You think maybe an understanding of world history might give you some context? Let's keep playing.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Simply because of their birthplace and the color of their skin, the bodies and spirits of black men, women and children were exploited for profit and power.

[Steven Crowder]

Pause, pause. By whom? By whom? Who exploited. Let me ask you this. Who exploited them? Who enslaved them before selling them? Who actually captured them, beat them and enslaved them for. That's right. People in Africa, by the way, also because of the color of their skin, who was enslaved? Black people, Just to be clear, people were enslaving their own people. So this idea that people were enslaved exclusively because of their race. Hold on a second. How does that make sense? When Arabs were enslaving Arabs, when Asians were enslaving Asians, and when Africans. Black Africans were enslaving black Africans who profited, who exploited. Yeah, slavery's bad. Of course we ended it. I think we kind of deserve credit for that. We did something White Americans did, something that black Africans never did and still all across Africa have yet to do. Who's the exploiter? Who's the guilty party? The purveyor? The actual owner of the slaves, selling them? Or the consumer who at that point is taking part in practice in the way of the world throughout all of human history. Let's continue.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Were forced onto ships, bound by shackles and collars that ripped off their skin. One older man described it as iron entering our souls. Some chose to jump into the waters infested with sharks rather than feel that iron.

[Steven Crowder]

Pause. That's also disingenuous. He wasn't able to swim. The sharks were incidental. Continue.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Now, once they arrived on this very soil, they were forced to work by way of the whip. Despite being starved, sleep deprived, threatened, tortured, physically and psychologically, they were auctioned off. Humiliated, fearful and separated from their families and their children. Black women and girls were raped and sexually assaulted. Many were brutally murdered and mutilated.

[Steven Crowder]

Pause. Okay, look. All of that, of course, is horrible. And I'm glad that it's ended here in the United States, in the Western world. I would like to see it end in the cradle of civilization where it still takes place. Who forced them onto ships? You say auctioned off. Why don't you talk about how they got. They were auctioned off. They were auctioned off before they were forced onto ships. I get it. This is horrible treatment. Is it worse than the treatment of the enslavers in the cradle of civilization, by the way, where, again, it still happens? Wouldn't you at least give credit to. If you have two parties who are equally immoral and reprehensible in their treatment, Wouldn't you prefer the party who had one of the bloodiest wars of all time to end it? Well, that's right. Sorry. We're including the context of world history, by the way. Just to be clear. I know I'm moving too fast for you, Abby. Slavery is bad. No one's saying that slavery is good. This is, you know, the word you like to use, nuance. We wouldn't want an echo chamber. Let's continue.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Now, this endured for decades. Centuries. And even in the places where slavery was not legal, institutions from our banks to universities were built on enslaved labor.

[Steven Crowder]

Pause.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Both the north and in the South.

[Steven Crowder]

Okay, here's where some of you. Here's Where I'm gonna lose some of you because we're not supposed to say what I'm about to say. But it is the God's honest truth, this trope that blacks built America, that black people are responsible for building America. Sure, there were slaves, and sure, they were forced into labor against their will. They weren't the only ones. Less than 3% of the slave population on Earth went to North America just to be. Just so, you know. So actually, far fewer here than, you know, in Africa or in Asia or anywhere else. Anywhere else, frankly, in the world, it would be redundant for me to go through it. Okay, is it any place that's not North America, then the answer is yes, they had more slaves, but here it was built off the backs of black people. They are responsible for building America. Okay, we have a controlled study here. Okay. Slaves in North America, largely black, not only, but largely black slaves in Africa, black slave owners in Africa, black slave owners in the United States, white. Why do you think the United States is different if it was built off the backs of black people? Well, then Africa would have a leg up because they have both the. The slaves and the slave owners are black. They should be super America. They should be far ahead of the game. So maybe in the United States, it was built up in spite of taking part in the world history practiced slave trade, not because of it. If both continents have slaves and only one has white slave owners, who at the inception of this country said, we have the intent at some point to end this slavery, but couldn't do it yet because really hadn't been thought of, and the other country has black slave owners. What's the difference? Why do we say only black people built America? And why haven't black people built America in Africa? Something, something colonialism. Let's go south.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

And for many of the white Americans who did not personally own slaves, they benefited from a caste system that concentrated wealth, wealth and political power in their hands.

[Steven Crowder]

Pause. Okay. Oh, okay. So this is the no win scenario. Because as we know, we heard Joy Reid talk about this earlier in the week. Those who have benefited from white privilege, those who have benefited from white supremacy, meaning even if you are not one, but you're white, need to sit down and shut up. Because Harriet Tubman was actually harmed by being helped from white people who were the benefactors of white supremacy. So I guess in this case were kind of glad that they did, that the people who benefited from it fought the bloodiest war in history to end it. Also, let's look at this logically. If the people who still stood to benefit from slavery, meaning the people who didn't take part in it, but were in a country where it was practiced, decided to end it. Wouldn't that tell you that the United States, in contrast to the rest of the world, was such a deeply moral people of such great conviction that despite their own selfish interests, they were going to die to free people in the name of doing what is right. And by the way, how do they know what's right? Because they followed Judeo Christian principles. Oh, wait, maybe that's why you still haven't seen the crisis of conscience from the noble black slave owners in Africa. Doesn't that deserve credit? And I know you'll say, oh, the British Empire. The British Empire, technically, if you want to say that, ended slavery before the. But they weren't even talking about it before. It was a conversation here. And there were still plenty of indentured servants throughout the British Empire after we actually freed the slaves. It was the way of the world. And to me, something, if you want to, hey, this is what Donald Trump is saying. What about the optimism? What about the hope? What about the contributions to the world? If you don't look at the rest of the world and you just blame the United States as though it's the original sin, you don't understand that the only reason people are free and they're only free in the Western civilized world is because of the United States. Something that never would have happened and still hasn't happened. The continent of Africa, Asia, and by the way, a lot of Europe. Let's let her finish this out.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

When we acknowledge the existence of black people who operated George Washington's Mount Vernon or the black hands that built the White House, we are acknowledging, acknowledging the existence, the perseverance and the contributions of the souls that white supremacy sought to erase. Those people built families, they developed a culture, they were the keepers of the faith, cultivators of community. And they are the ones, they are the ones who deserve credit for forcing America to rid itself of the stain of slavery.

[Steven Crowder]

Hold on, let me finish this. Let me finish this. I'm going to say something that's going to piss a lot of people off using her premise, right? Because they were under the shackles and white supremacy. White supremacy. White supremacy is the reason for slavery. White supremacy is the reason for slavery. Okay, that again is just illogical when you understand that non white people practice slavery. But then you would have to argue, or you would have to accept rather that if the United States is based on white supremacy and that's the reason for slavery. American white supremacy is the reason that any black people are free because blacks in Africa weren't going to do it. And if it's so white supremacy based, let me ask you another question. Why is the only race of people on the planet in 2025 the only race of people who don't engage in slavery? White people. Black people do it. Asian people do it. Arabic people do it. Name the. Yep, one exception. Western white civilization, the cradle of white supremacy, according to you, is the only reason that any slaves were freed and that anywhere in the world which is exclusively reserved to the western civilized world that slavery no longer exists. Sounds to me like if you're a black slave still in Africa today in 2025, one of the 50 million people or one of the Asian sex slaves right now on the planet, one of 50 million people, you could use a whole lot more white supremacy. Hope you see that white supremacy cavalry coming over that hill. They're making changes now to be clear at these museums because some of the slavery exhibits I will grant my white guild talking are tough to look at.