A 911 call in Tulsa, Oklahoma came in as a possible suicide, but what first responders found told a very different story.

Joshua “Josh” Hilberling had fallen 17 stories from a high-rise apartment, and inside that apartment was his wife, Amber Hilberling, who was heard saying, “I pushed him.”

What happened between Amber and Josh in those final moments became the center of a case that quickly split opinions: was it self-defense, an accident, or something more?

As investigators dug into their relationship, allegations from both sides, and the physical evidence inside the apartment, the story became far more complicated than it first appeared.

And even after a conviction, this is one of those cases where people still ask the same question ...

What really happened in that apartment?

Past episodes mentioned in this case:

An Important Conversation About the Hidden Reality of Male Domestic Abuse – The Case of Alex Skeel
https://murderandlove.com/an-important-conversation-about-the-hidden-reality-of-male-domestic-abuse-the-case-of-alex-skeel/

(Bonus) Alex Skeel in His Own Words
https://www.patreon.com/posts/bonus-alex-skeel-99828924

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