The Welfare Check Body Cams | BONUS

Summary

Love Trapped | BONUS: The Welfare Check Body Cams

Podcast: Love Trapped
Episode Title: The Welfare Check Body Cams (BONUS)
Date: April 20, 2026
Host/Narrator: Stephanie
Featured Voices: Jan Black (Laura’s mom), Laura Owens, Scottsdale Police Officers

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Episode Overview

This bonus episode of Love Trapped takes listeners inside two actual welfare check interactions between Laura Owens, her mother Jan Black, and Scottsdale police officers that occurred in late 2023. Using lightly edited police body cam recordings, the episode offers a raw, real-time depiction of the fallout from Laura's paternity scandal involving former Bachelor Clayton Echard, compounded by relentless online harassment and swatting tactics from an ex-boyfriend. The episode’s theme explores the personal and legal toll of cyberstalking, smear campaigns, and the struggle for protection when technology blurs the lines between real threats and digital harassment.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Repeated Welfare Checks and Online Harassment

• Overview of Events

  • In Nov and Dec 2023, police were sent to Laura's home for welfare checks at least four times. Two of these interactions were recorded and are played in this episode.
  • The welfare checks were spurred mainly by false concerns reported by an ex-boyfriend who was orchestrating an online harassment campaign.

• Jan Black’s Explanation (03:11 – 05:35)

  • Jan describes the ongoing situation to the officers:
    • The harassment began with a disgruntled ex-boyfriend posting false claims on Reddit.
    • He encouraged others to request welfare checks, resulting in multiple calls to Scottsdale police.
    • "This is like the third [welfare check] in a week." – Jan Black (04:32)
  • Jan emphasizes the waste of police resources and asserts these are prank calls meant to harass and destabilize Laura.

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2. Escalation and Legal Hurdles

• Harasser’s Motivation and Methods (06:17 – 13:16)

  • The ex-boyfriend, named Greg Gillespie, is described as persistent, using fake accounts and refusing to stop even when faced with an injunction against harassment.
  • Jan recounts that Greg threatened to "destroy her life and reputation."
  • Jan suspects Greg’s intent is to make Laura appear unstable before her protective order comes up for renewal, undermining her credibility.
    • "He texted her, 'I will destroy your life. I will destroy your reputation.' And that was two years ago. And he's just continued this." – Jan Black (06:23)
  • Greg is local, has manipulated online narratives, and allegedly accessed Laura’s emails by demanding her passwords under the guise of trust during their relationship.

• Police Guidance and Limits (09:26 – 17:44)

  • The officers advise Jan and Laura to document everything, contact Google to remove their information, and continue working with Detective Reedy.
  • Prosecutors feel there is insufficient evidence for conviction; the jurisdiction and extradition issues complicate legal action.
  • Officers note that even if notes are in their file, future calls may still result in welfare checks due to procedural obligations.

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3. Impact on Laura and Her Family

• Personal Toll (08:07 – 11:17, 16:52 – 18:58)

  • Laura’s pregnancy with Clayton Echard fueled further harassment.
  • The ex-boyfriend’s actions include trying to coerce Laura into an abortion, which led to a dedicated case and elevated the campaign against her.
  • Laura attempted to remain anonymous, but smear campaigns pulled her identity into the public conversation.
    • "She really had wanted to stay under the radar on this, and then she finally decided: hey, this guy is controlling the narrative, and I have to speak out." – Jan Black (17:54)

• Digital Doxxing and Smear Campaigns

  • Jan notes the ex-boyfriend posted fake stories alleging past relationships and false paternity claims.
  • Attempts have been made to remove damaging content, but social media platforms offer little recourse.
  • Both Laura and Jan have experienced their information, including their address and personal details, posted online.

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4. Body Cam Recordings: Key Interactions

• December 12, 2023 Welfare Check (03:11 – 19:43)

  • The officer explains that a welfare check has been requested by someone from New York; Jan identifies the pattern of swatting.
  • Discussion shifts to legal avenues (injunctions, prosecutor’s limitations, documentation).
  • Jan hands a candy bar to the officers as a light-hearted gesture:
    • "I hope this isn't a bribing box." – Jan Black (19:38)

• December 4, 2023 Welfare Check with Laura Present (19:46 – 26:39)

  • Police arrive after a report from the FBI, referencing concerns about suicidal comments linked to Laura.
  • Laura and Jan clarify the statements were referencing the distress caused by months of cyber harassment and smear videos on YouTube (over 50 alleged videos).
    • "I had told the guy specifically that...creating these daily videos about me had made me feel borderline suicidal… I messaged him and he continued to make videos about me, but I'm fine." – Laura Owens (22:25-23:00)
  • Laura confirms she is not in danger but is struggling with the hostile online environment. She voices frustration at being unable to stop her harassers and highlights the failure of cease and desist letters.
  • Harassment includes doxxing, graphic threats, dissemination of private information, and attempts to endanger her safety and that of her family's.

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5. Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On the futility of the legal system:

  • "She had contacted the Scottsdale Police Department... they sent it to the prosecutor's office, [but] the prosecutor's office said that they didn't think they could get a conviction on it." – Jan Black (07:13)

• On the family’s emotional burden:

  • "This has been devastating beyond belief." – Jan Black (05:20)
  • "She was feeling like she was getting no support from anybody because she didn't really want to go tell her friends and everything like that that this was all going on." – Jan Black (18:58)

• Police reassurance and limits:

  • "If you do start feeling like [you need help], you can always call us." – Officer (23:59)

• The impact of public shaming and online threats:

  • "People have said, like, they hope I'm an organ donor because then something good would come from my pathetic existence. Like, I'm a waste of skin." – Laura Owens (26:04)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Stephanie’s Introduction & Episode Setup: 03:11–04:12
• First Welfare Check—Jan Black & Police: 04:12–19:38
• Key Quotes on Harassment & Legal Struggle:
  • Jan on ex’s threats: 06:17–07:13
  • Jan on the online campaign: 08:07–09:15
  • Laura’s struggles: 11:04–11:17; 16:21–18:58
• Second Welfare Check—Laura Present: 19:46–26:39
  • Laura on the mental health impact: 22:25–23:00
  • Harassment specifics and emotional toll: 24:06–26:39

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Concluding Thoughts

This bonus episode underscores the relentless and intimately disruptive nature of digital harassment, especially when the legal system cannot or will not intervene definitively. Through candid body cam audio and unscripted family response, listeners witness the stress, fear, and isolation that define Laura Owens’ and her family's reality. The episode closes with gratitude towards the listener, reminders about upcoming episodes, and a palpable sense that the struggle for safety and vindication is ongoing.

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[Stephanie (Podcast Narrator)]

Hey, it's Stephanie, back with another bonus episode. Before we get to episode 10, I want to explain a bit about Laura and her mom's interaction with the Scottsdale police. In November and December of 2023, the police were dispatched to Laura's house for a welfare check on her at least four separate times. Two of them were recorded on officer body cams and have been made public. Today we're going to play you those recordings. You'll get to hear from Laura's mom, Jan Black, and from Laura herself. They tell the police their side of the story. We lightly edited them to cut out dead air or repeated information, but we've left these mostly intact so you can hear the whole interaction. We're starting with the welfare check on December 12, 2023. Laura's mom, Jan, is the one who answers the door. And just a heads up, you'll hear the officer's phone buzzing from time to time.

[Police Officer Radick]

Is Laura here?

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Yeah. Is this. Is somebody called in a welfare check about her? Yes.

[Police Officer]

Yeah, it's a friend from New York. I don't know if you know who that might be.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

No, I. What I do know is that she is the target of an online harassment campaign that has been going on for months.

[Police Officer Radick]

Okay.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

And one of the things that they wanted to do, it was started by a disgruntled ex boyfriend of hers, and he started posting all of this crazy stuff about her on Reddit, stuff that is unbelievable. Right. And so he has encouraged people to do. To call in the Scottsdale Police Department and do. And ask for a welfare check. This is like the third one in a week.

[Police Officer Radick]

Okay.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

And I had contacted the. I mean, she called in and talked to the Scottsdale Police Department as well and said, you know, we don't want your resources. This is, this is ridiculous. It's a prank.

[Laura Owens]

Okay.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Thing. But I'm happy to go get her. She was, she was taking a nap. She. This has been devastating beyond belief.

[Police Officer]

Is she asleep now?

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

She's, she's taking a nap, but I, I can wake her up.

[Police Officer]

I, I don't think that would be necessary.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Yeah, we'll Let.

[Police Officer Radick]

So I don't. For some reason, it wasn't in our notes for your address. I'm gonna put comments in there that says this is an ongoing prank.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Right.

[Police Officer Radick]

They still may send. We have to understand, because if we don't, if it's not us on or it's not the same dispatchers, they still might just send on it. But I would work on trying to contact Reddit and, and let them know

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

she has contacted them. They will not take it down. They will not take it down. And this guy, he's created different fake accounts. He, I, I mean, it's, it's, he's

[Police Officer Radick]

going to great lengths. Have you looked into an injunction against harassment?

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

She has against him. She's, this is part of his, part of his thing. She's had this against him for two years. And this is an old ex boyfriend then. Yeah, it's an old ex boyfriend and she had the injunction against her harassment against him. I mean, he's really. Another friend of ours who is an FBI profiler had looked at, you know, what this guy is all about, and she said, he's the kind of a person who is not going to stop unless he thinks he's got a win. And he had, he had said to her, he texted her, I will destroy your life. I will destroy your reputation. And that was two years ago. And he's just, he's just continued this.

[Police Officer]

Is he local here or.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Yeah, he's local.

[Police Officer]

What's his name?

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

He's local. His name is Greg Gillespie. But he, he could have called from a fake number or, like I say, he's tried to start stuff online. She had, she contacted the Scottsdale Police Department with a lot of instances of these, and they sent it to the prosecutor's office, and the prosecutor's office said that they didn't think they could get a conviction on it. They said there was a lot of stuff, but they didn't know that they, if they would be able to get a conviction. So I think that one of his motives is to try to make it so that when her order against him comes up for renewal next year, that he can say, well, look, you know, she's, you know, she's crazy. You know, look at all this stuff that he's posted online about her.

[Jan Black (continued)]

And.

[Police Officer Radick]

Yeah, well, and then especially for her, document it, get copies of it, so then she can go right back to the judge and be like, this is what's going on.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Right. And he's contacted a podcaster who has also been doing just relentless posts about her and that's so strange. I know. Well, what happened, what, what prompted a lot of this stuff is my daughter became pregnant by the guy who was the Bachelor last year, and she became pregnant by him in May. And then he was acting like, oh, you're not really pregnant or if you are pregnant, it's not mine. And, and, and, and then other times he was saying to us like, oh, but he wanted to be involved in the pregnancy and all this kind of stuff. So anyhow, when this ex boyfriend found out about her pregnancy with this guy, then it sent him into kind of an overdrive thing. And then he reached out to him and it's like my, my daughter finally did a big post on Medium the other day explaining, you know, just the toll that all of this has, has taken on her and how it's just, it's just. It's crazy beyond belief.

[Laura Owens]

Such a nipper.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

I think there's probably somebody. Our neighbor babysits dogs all daytime, so I think that this is like pickup.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Oh, okay.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

I know, I know. I'm always kind of like that too.

[Police Officer Radick]

Get online. I also try to get online. You can contact Google at different places and have her information removed from online, like house, phone number, things like that. Work on doing that too. Try to get as much information as you can offline. I know it's hard.

[Jan Black (continued)]

We.

[Police Officer Radick]

We have to do it. And that's exactly how they tell us to do it. And there's ways to, like Whitepages.com and you can go on. There's a link, it says remove my information and you can go on that. Have her start doing all that information. And then I get that they're coming to the house, but see what you can do to block that information.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Right, right, right. Well, I just feel, I feel really awful for you guys because, you know, this is, this is. It's a waste of. It's a waste of resources. And it's obviously, you know, prank stuff. Do you know what phone number had contacted. It's a 415 area code.

[Police Officer Radick]

It's out of New York.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

415 is. Is San Francisco because we're from San Francisco.

[Police Officer]

Our numbers are for the 415 one that the person that called us gave us that phone number to contact her. So whoever called doesn't have.

[Police Officer Radick]

It's getting old information online.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Okay, do you have. Do you.

[Police Officer Radick]

Because I just like, give me a. So I can all walk out and go grab it.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Oh, that would be great.

[Police Officer]

Do you know how to spell Greg's last name? Is it G? I L, L, E S, P I, E. Has he been harassing her by stopping by the house at all or anything like that?

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

He has gone into her email. He, they, they dated very briefly, and she became pregnant by him.

[Laura Owens]

Okay.

[Jan Black (continued)]

And

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

he was very, shall we say, violent in his effort to get her to have an abortion. So she filed an abortion coercion case against him.

[Police Officer]

Okay.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Which really ticked him off.

[Laura Owens]

Yeah.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

She didn't ask for any money for her. She asked for a charitable donation for abortion coercion. Did you get it?

[Jan Black (continued)]

Yeah.

[Police Officer Radick]

It's for.

[Laura Owens]

It doesn't happen.

[Police Officer Radick]

And I'm gonna actually give them a

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

call to follow up with them. Okay.

[Police Officer]

What is, what does Greg drive do?

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

You know, I don't, I don't. She didn't. He's made lies. I mean, absolute. He's made crazy things. He's posted online stuff saying that, that he went to high school with her, which he never did. I mean, he's posted on these fake accounts saying that he knew her in high school and that, that she was pregnant by a developmental, Developmentally disabled kid. The father of somebody else. The principal, the school principal. I mean, things that are so unbelievably outrageous. I mean, it's just like, it's to really, I think, try to discredit her again so that when her order against him comes up.

[Police Officer Radick]

Yeah.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

That it'll look like, oh, wow, you look at this stuff online, man. You know, so, so there is a

[Police Officer]

current order of protection against him.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Yes, yes, there is. And Scottdale or county.

[Laura Owens]

Okay.

[Police Officer]

Okay.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

And I mean. And the guy is, the guy is unhinged. I mean, I had no, sounds like I had no clue when, you know, I had said to her when she wanted to file this abortion coercion case in the first place. I said, you know what? Just let sleeping dogs lie. Just be done with him and everything like that. She was like, no, I feel really strongly about, about what he did and the way he did it to me. And so, you know, she went ahead with it and, and as I say, it just started this torrent of, of. Yeah, yeah. Really, really bad stuff. But anyway, I, I, I appreciate it and no problem.

[Police Officer Radick]

Look, and definitely look into trying to get any information you can removed online

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

because they had your name, too. They did. What did they have? As Elizabeth. Okay, that's my, yeah, that's my given name. Jam is my nickname.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Jam.

[Laura Owens]

Robert.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

When I took a picture of it, just.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Oh, okay.

[Police Officer Radick]

Yeah, they have your husband's name, too.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Okay.

[Laura Owens]

Ron.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Ron.

[Laura Owens]

Okay.

[Police Officer Radick]

So this address. So I would, I would Definitely try to see whatever you can from online.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Yeah, no, they've. They've been trying to post on our social media stuff. They posted on her social media stuff.

[Laura Owens]

They've.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

And. And this guy, as I say,

[Jan Black (continued)]

when

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

she was going out with him, he said, like, you know, well, I'm really sorry. Suspicious of people. So, you know, would you give me your passwords? Because I wouldn't want to think, you know, I want everything to be pro. You know, to. I want us to trust each other. So he. She gave it. She was like, oh, okay, sure. No problem. So he's gone in to her emails from years and years ago and. And doctored emails and sent them as though they were from her. He's doctored letterhead. He did come here one time when she was dating him, and the first thing he said is. He said, hey, I need your parents WI FI information. He was out here. He said, I need their WI Fi. What's their password? And stuff like that. So he's been doing a.

[Police Officer]

Yeah, if. Later when you speak to Laura, like I said, I won't necessarily want to wake her up, but if she wants to speak with someone from the police department about everything that's been going on lately. Because you said it's been the. Like the third time in about the last week or so.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Right. And she had talked with Detective Reedy, I think, had. He had come up with. He had sent the stuff and forwarded it to the prosecutors. But the prosecutors just said that they're, you know, they'd have to be assured of getting.

[Police Officer Radick]

Have her reach out to Detective Reedy again and let him know what's going on. On with this now that may be able to kind of help, maybe refile,

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

I think, what his thing was that it would be difficult for him to be able to prove, you know, she was suspicious of all this stuff.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Yeah.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

But, I mean, we pretty. You know, there's nobody else who would have the motive to do. Yeah, it is difficult. It's approving because he goes under fake names he likes. I say, he obviously, you know, doctor that. Did they say what their concern was when they called.

[Laura Owens]

Suicidal comments?

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Okay, well, because she had. When she posted this thing on medium, she. She had written in there that it. That this unrelenting. This has gone on for months, that this had made her feel borderline suicidal. Okay. So, you know, but she. She. She said the borderline suicidal thing, but that's not, you know. Yeah, right, right. It's like she. She had said to me, like, oh, my God, how much More of this can I take.

[Police Officer]

Does she have any friends in New York?

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

My daughter lives in New York. My other daughter lives in New York. But she's. She's well aware of what.

[Police Officer]

What's going on, and she would contact you directly?

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Oh, of course. Of course. And. And Laura talks to her, like, twice, like, two hours a day that they're on the phone, so. And I was just with my daughter in there, like, five minutes before you guys rang. And. And the reason I. She lives in the casita, and the reason I left was because she said, hey, I'm just. I'm spent from all this. I just want to close my eyes for.

[Jan Black (continued)]

For a little bit.

[Police Officer Radick]

So when did she post that?

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

When did she post the medium thing?

[Police Officer]

Said yesterday.

[Laura Owens]

Yesterday.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

No, it was before yet. I mean, it was. It was on there yesterday, but I want to say it was maybe today's Tuesday, maybe Friday night or Saturday.

[Police Officer Radick]

That kind of goes with the timeline. I'm going to give this to you. Not that you guys are in crisis, but they might be able to kind of help. Just give her someone else to talk to, or they have resources that we don't even know exist.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Oh, really?

[Police Officer Radick]

Reach out. They might be able to help you, put you guys in a good direction.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Okay.

[Laura Owens]

Okay.

[Police Officer]

And also reach out to Detective Reed again and

[Police Officer Radick]

let him know what's been happening. And, yeah, that way he's kind of apprised of it, too, so it might. It might be able to help kind

[Laura Owens]

of open a different door, a different

[Police Officer Radick]

direction, but reach out to him again. These guys have a lot of. A lot of resources that we don't even know exist. Okay, so give them a call.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Okay.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Okay. Yeah, it can't hurt, because, I mean, because like she had said she had tried to be anonymous with this whole thing initially with the pregnancy with the bachelor guy, and then. And then people were saying, oh, wait, you can. Or this guy was starting the conversation that. Wait, you can Google the case. And then her name comes up, and it's Laura Owens, and she's a podcaster. She and I do a podcast, and we've done it for, I guess, since 2017. And iTunes named us one of the top 25 most downloaded new podcasts in 2018. So we've had success with it, but, I mean, this is just, you know, she. She really had wanted to stay under. Under the radar on this, and then she finally decided, like, hey, you know, this guy is controlling the narrative, and. And I have to speak out. I have to explain what's been going on, because Otherwise, she was feeling like she was getting no support from. From anybody because she didn't really want to go tell her friends and everything like that that this was all going on.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Yeah.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

So it's just. It's a nightmare. But I really appreciate.

[Laura Owens]

No problem.

[Police Officer Radick]

Yeah, we'll put comments in there so they know.

[Laura Owens]

Okay.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Officer Radick was the guy who. Who contacted her the other night. Like. Okay, yeah, yeah, we'll put comments in

[Police Officer Radick]

there with the address, and then it'll come up in the history, and we'll go back and read through the comments. So we'll try to do that to kind of help you guys out a little bit.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Okay. Yeah, no, I really appreciate it. Anything. Hey, wait. I've got something for you guys. Hang on one sec.

[Stephanie (Podcast Narrator)]

At the end of the video, Jan hands a candy bar to one of the officers. He takes it and. Thanks, Jan.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

I hope this is a bribing box.

[Stephanie (Podcast Narrator)]

Thank you.

[Laura Owens]

Chocolate.

[Police Officer]

Thank you so much.

[Stephanie (Podcast Narrator)]

Another welfare check happened a week earlier on December 4, 2023, and this time, Laura joins the conversation.

[Police Officer]

Are you looking for Laura?

[Jan Black (continued)]

Laura's my daughter. Okay.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

She here?

[Jan Black (continued)]

Yeah.

[Police Officer]

She called the FBI and the FBI called us to come check and make sure she's okay.

She was reporting something to him, but she was upset and sounded like she made some statements. They just wanted to make sure she's okay.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Was this a long time ago?

[Police Officer]

No, this was supposedly this morning.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Okay, hang on a second. Can I just make sure I can see your car?

[Police Officer]

They said she's back here, but she was gonna come out.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Where's your police car?

[Police Officer]

Huh? Over there.

[Jan Black (continued)]

The police car. I just. We've had some really strange things.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Where's your police car?

[Police Officer]

There's two of them sitting right here.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Okay, okay, okay. All right. Well, come on here or.

[Police Officer]

But she lives in the back in the little casita.

[Jan Black (continued)]

You want. Why don't you come on in?

[Laura Owens]

Okay.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Yeah. And sit down?

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

It's okay. Yeah.

[Jan Black (continued)]

She's had some real issues with an ex boyfriend who. It is the most complicated, bizarre story ever.

[Police Officer]

But.

Well, our b. Our. The only reason we're here is she evidently gave. The FBI talked to them. They just wanted us to swing by to make sure she's okay.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Okay. All right.

[Police Officer]

That's all we need.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Hang on one second. Let me just go gather that. Hang on.

[Police Officer Radick]

Hi.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Hi, there. Morning.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

Good morning.

[Police Officer]

Did you contact the FBI this morning?

[Laura Owens]

Cyber Crimes Unit? Yeah.

[Police Officer]

Did you talk to somebody or.

[Laura Owens]

No, nobody contacted me. I, like, just submitted it, like an hour ago. If it's the same thing. She helped me with the report I drafted.

[Police Officer]

So the information we got was that you submitted something to the FBI. It didn't say whether you talked or somebody on the phone or electronically, like, made an online complaint. Yeah, they said some. Something you said was borderline suicidal.

[Laura Owens]

Right, that was from the guy, but that was also from.

[Police Officer]

So the FBI called us to come check on you to make sure you're okay and you're.

[Laura Owens]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that was like.

[Police Officer]

So you weren't. Were you talking about whatever you said? Were you talk about yourself or.

[Laura Owens]

Yeah, but it was like from a couple months ago, she.

[Jan Black (continued)]

She was saying she's been targeted. Like she's had a horrible situation with. With cyber harassment from an ex boyfriend and from another guy who is obsessed with her.

[Laura Owens]

Yeah, and 50 videos of me on YouTube.

[Jan Black (continued)]

So, yeah, she has. She has simply asked him to stop. She's filed a cease and desist asking him to stop. And they're not. They haven't stopped. And so she. She thought that. That, you know, it needs to go to some kind of cyber crimes unit. She had said in there that the harassment.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

I had.

[Laura Owens]

Well, I can say it. I had told the guy specifically that like, creating these daily videos about me had made me feel borders. Borderline suicidal. I was like, last month I. I messaged him and he continued to make videos about me, but I'm fine.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Like, this guy has made like 40.

[Laura Owens]

50.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Yeah, I mean, it's just insane.

[Police Officer]

Somebody at the up guys actually saw your.

[Laura Owens]

Yeah, right.

[Police Officer]

And saw that. Where it's like these videos making you suicidal and they're like.

[Laura Owens]

Right.

[Police Officer]

They were like, oh, we better call Scottsdale, make sure you're not actually gonna hurt yourself, right?

[Laura Owens]

No.

[Police Officer]

And you're not.

[Laura Owens]

No, no.

[Police Officer]

You don't need any assistance from us or.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Okay. No, I'm good. No.

[Laura Owens]

Yeah.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Unless you could get the guy to. To stop. But I mean, it's been. It's been horrific. Absolutely.

[Police Officer]

Well, it sounds like somebody at the. Okay, I got your complaint, so hopefully.

[Laura Owens]

Hopefully they do something. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping.

[Police Officer]

And mom, you're aware of everything going on, right? So you're here. Okay.

[Laura Owens]

Yeah.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Of everything that's going on. No, it's been. It's been.

[Police Officer]

Well, and if three months and if you do start feeling like, yeah, you can always call us because we can get you help too.

[Laura Owens]

Oh, no, I really appreciate that. I mean, what would you be. Great. It's just for this guy to stop, it's just very scary.

[Jan Black (continued)]

But it's just that he's. He's just really tried to incite online hatred of her. And he, he was. She has protective orders against two prior boyfriends and one of them is. Is a real. Is a real stalker, kind of a nut and has done

[Stephanie (Podcast Narrator)]

every.

[Jan Black (continued)]

He. He swore that he was going to ruin her life and he was able to hack into her computer, he had her passwords, he had all this kind of stuff. And it's just he, he then contacted this YouTube guy and he's just tried to do, you know, just to ruin her, to come up with all these fake stories, this craziness and, and posted online about her. And so, so, you know, she was finally thinking, like, if a cease and desist didn't work, and she's tried to get a temporary restraining order against this guy.

[Laura Owens]

He lives in la. First Amendment.

[Police Officer]

Yeah, that's what makes it tough is.

[Laura Owens]

Yeah.

[Police Officer]

You know, different states.

[Laura Owens]

Different states, exactly.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Right, right.

[Laura Owens]

And that's why I figured I have to contact.

[Jan Black (continued)]

And he's claiming he's got a right to post them, but he doesn't have a right to post lies. But anyway, but, but so Laura was saying, well, maybe, you know, he has violated these cyber stalking and cyber crime stuff. This guy posted a map of.

[Laura Owens]

To my house. I have another house. So he posted a map.

[Jan Black (continued)]

Yeah, we have a, an Airbnb. He posted a thing showing how to get to our house with pictures of the house. I mean, he had that on his computer up in the background when he was posting one of these the other the other day. Yeah, so. So Laura was thinking, you know, maybe if we contacted the Cyber crimes Cyber stalking Unit, that maybe that.

[Laura Owens]

Yeah. I mean, people have said, like, they hope I'm an organ donor because then something good would come from my pathetic existence. Like, I'm a waste of skin. Like, they've been. They're very mean. So I'm hoping to send this guy

[Jan Black (continued)]

and, you know, yeah, we, we just, you know, because it's like, where do we, where do we even turn if. If they, they won't respect the court system and, and you know, they've, they've just tried to, to do everything to. To hurt us, to hurt, you know, the family too. I mean, they've.

[Jan Black (Laura's Mom)]

It's just.

[Jan Black (continued)]

It's just been an absolute nightmare.

[Police Officer]

As long as you're okay. That's why we're here, to make sure.

[Laura Owens]

Really appreciate that.

[Police Officer]

Okay, good luck with everything. Like,

[Stephanie (Podcast Narrator)]

Thank you so much for listening. Stay tuned for new episodes and bonus content on the Love Trapped feed.

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