Iran: Oops! All Ayatollahs

Summary

Lovett or Leave It – “Iran: Oops! All Ayatollahs”
Release Date: March 14, 2026
Host: Jon Lovett
Guests: Paul Feig, Monet X Change

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Episode Overview

This episode of “Lovett or Leave It,” recorded live at Dynasty Typewriter in Los Angeles, blends sharp, comedic political commentary with pop culture banter and lively interviews. The main theme explores the U.S.’s preemptive war with Iran under President Trump, the bizarre nature of leadership in crisis, and the broader absurdities and foibles of American politics. Guests Paul Feig (director, writer, all-around cocktail connoisseur) and Monet X Change (comedian, opera singer, and Drag Race royalty) join Lovett to mix jokes with serious commentary—about everything from war to Drag Race to American aging.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. U.S.-Iran War and Presidential Hedging (02:39–14:21)

• Lovett kicks off with a comparison between “hedgehogs” and “foxes” in leadership, referencing philosopher Isaiah Berlin and President George W. Bush post-9/11.
  • Quote (Lovett, 03:32): “We really graded this guy on a curve, specifically the curve an airplane makes when it flies into a skyscraper.”
• Critique of President Trump’s contradictory statements about the war in Iran:
  • Trump says war is “very complete, pretty much,” while the Pentagon says “we’ve only just begun to fight.”
  • Lovett makes a quantum mechanics joke: “The war in Iran is over and it has only just begun. So it's a dumb question, you ugly pig bitch.” (Lovett, 05:07)
• Discussion of civilian casualties and media denial:
  • Trump blames Iran for a U.S. bombing of a girls’ school, with Paul Feig as “Pentagon” echoing administration talking points:
    • Feig (06:05): “They have no accuracy whatsoever.”
  • Lovett skewers disinformation and lack of accountability.
• On media, oil, and spin:
  • Iran threatens to close the Strait of Hormuz, leading to oil disruptions, tankers attacked, and U.S. military posturing.
  • Trump’s solution, as relayed by Fox News: “These ships should go through the Strait of Hormuz and show some guts. There’s nothing to be afraid of.” (Feig, 09:22)
  • Lovett lampoons Trump’s gift-giving to cabinet members; matching shoes as a loyalty test (11:50).
• Domestic opinion on war:
  • Only 27% of Americans support it, reflecting increasing skepticism after two decades of Middle Eastern conflict.

2. 2026 Political Landscape & Republican Struggles (12:25–16:14)

• Republican messaging and authoritarian drift:
  • Lindsey Graham uses war rhetoric; Megyn Kelly sharply rebukes him for overstepping:
    • Quote (Lovett, 12:32): “‘No one elected you as our commander in chief. Shut the fuck up.’”
  • Trump pushes “SAVE” Act, requiring birth certificates to vote, transparently to affect election outcomes.
  • Republicans are privately urged to drop mass deportation talk, indicating electoral worry and disarray.
  • Democratic grassroots organizing highlighted with Vote Save America’s Project 218.
  • Lovett lampoons Pentagon frivolous spending even while asking for $50 billion more for war.

3. Funding War & Congressional Stance (16:17–17:57)

• Congress debates additional war funding.
  • Most Republicans support; most Democrats opposed.
  • Hakeem Jeffries and Chris Coons hedge on support—Lovett demands moral clarity:
    • Quote (Lovett, 17:36): “Trump is an unfit fucking moron. Do not fund his illegal war. ... It's hedgehog time, bitches.”

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Pop Culture & Guest Interviews

Cocktails, Sequels, and Bridesmaids with Paul Feig (22:14–39:33)

• Feig reminisces about making cocktails, promotes his gin, and discusses his new movie “The Housemaid.”
• Discusses his resistance to a “Bridesmaids” sequel despite obvious financial incentive:
  • “For some reason, Bridesmaids to me feels like it’s just a singular event ... you can’t do another one where she [Wiig] is a mess again.” (Feig, 24:56)
• Lighthearted banter about remastering “Bridesmaids,” Star Wars fandom (prefers first two originals; laments seriousness in later entries), and adapting to changing times.
• Anecdote about discovering a Nazi flag as a child (30:00):
  • Feig’s mother’s horrified reaction becomes a comedic story about understanding history and context.
• Discusses supportive upbringing, childhood shyness, and how pro-female friendships fed his knack for female-driven comedies.

“Sexual Congress or Sexual Congress” Game (34:23–39:33)

• Guests must distinguish between salacious political news and erotic thriller plots.
• Playful commentary on the intersection of politics and sensationalism; notable moment:
  • Lovett on Kirsten Sinema: “Centrism. I do like her glasses, I will say.” (Feig, 38:58)

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Drag Race, Survivor, and Aging with Monet X Change (42:16–64:41)

• Monet discusses the evolution of RuPaul’s Drag Race:
  • Current season’s queens are older/more experienced: “Last season, they were all like, 22. I was like, ew, get out of here. You don’t know anything about life.” (Monet, 43:29)
  • Debates whether queens should play fictional characters on Snatch Game; supports creativity due to running out of real celebrities.
• Deep Drag Race insider talk:
  • Monet advocates for Drag Race judging changes (“Bring on more queens!”), calls for freshening up challenges, and reminisces fun moments and personal fashion preferences.
• Monet’s 36-hour Survivor experience and subsequent admiration for the real game (50:01–53:49).
• Traitors: Monet reveals behind-the-scenes dynamics on the reality show, the impact of Housewife contestants, and the importance of strategic social play (54:14–58:37).
• Discusses her opera training and the controversy over Timothée Chalamet’s comments about keeping art forms alive; defends him and reflects on opera’s accessibility crisis (59:48–61:05).
• Laments the indignities of aging, both physical and existential:
  • Monet (63:00): “Black don’t crack, but my joints absolutely do.”
  • Feig (64:05): “The worst thing in the world is guys who get older who try to stay young… Put on a suit and be an adult. Adult life is the greatest.”

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Segment: “I Don’t Care, I Love It” (68:41–73:31)

• Hosts and guests defend their guilty pleasures, regardless of public opinion:
  • Feig: Loved the brief patriotic unity after Biden dropped out in 2024 and Kamala took over.
    • “For that three months, we all loved America.” (Feig, 69:05)
  • Monet: Champions the practicality and lost dignity of selfie sticks (70:36).
  • Lovett: Advocates for the return of true, algorithm-free blind dates.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Lovett (07:14): “It’s an excursion that will keep us out of a war” – skewering political euphemisms.
• Feig (23:29): “If something’s great, don’t mess with it.”
• Monet (44:30): “I have a good head. I give good head. It’s all good, you know?”
• Monet (46:38): “I know you, and I love you, from Mr. Poole, from Sabrina the Teenage Witch.”
• Feig (64:05): “The worst thing in the world is guys who get older who try to stay young… Put on a suit and be an adult.”
• Lovett (71:29): “The reason there was a backlash [to selfie sticks] is because girls like them… it’s misogyny.”
• Monet (63:44): “I think I do like the wisdom I’m getting. And I also love the amount of ‘I don’t give a fuck’ I’m getting.”
• Paul Feig (74:21): “How could that go bad in terms of pure [media]…?”
• Monet (76:03): [delivering a brief operatic moment on request]

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Final Thoughts and Second Thoughts (73:31–76:16)

• Lovett recaps with tongue-in-cheek “regrets” of the episode, but ultimately stands by controversial jokes and messy intros.
• Monet serenades the audience with impromptu opera—with martini in hand.
• Hosts thank guests and deliver closing banter about the passage of time, generational divides, and the importance of remaining curious.

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Important Timestamps

• Opening Monologue and Iran Segment: 02:33–17:57
• Paul Feig Interview: 22:14–39:33
• Sexual Congress Game: 34:23–39:33
• Monet X Change/Pop Culture Discussion: 42:16–64:41
• I Don’t Care, I Love It: 68:41–73:31
• Second Thoughts/Opera Performance: 73:31–76:16

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Tone & Style

Mixes political satire, pop culture critique, and sincere social commentary in Lovett’s trademark irreverent, self-deprecating, and deeply insightful style. Conversations are lively, quick-witted, and generous in letting guests shine, while anchoring the show in the chaotic, comedic realities of the present.

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This episode deftly balances comically bleak political news, outright absurdist observations, and genuine moments of cultural celebration and reflection—a perfect sampler of everything “Lovett or Leave It” has to offer.

Transcript

[John Lovett]

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[Monet X Change]

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[John Lovett]

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[Paul Feig]

Oh, philosophy, philosophy, philosophy.

[John Lovett]

Well, you know what that sound means. The philosopher Isaiah Berlin, in a famous essay from 1953, quoted the Greek poet Archilochus, who wrote, the fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing. And that one big thing. I'm covered in tiny little fucking spikes now because I was once young, but am now old. I remember how this analogy became part of the debate about the George W. Bush presidency. Does anyone else remember this debate coming up when George W. Bush was president? It's fine if you don't. Why would you? After 9 11, Bush was imbued with almost mythic leadership qualities. His approval rating soared into the 90s, even though he was still just this inarticulate, unimpressive guy. I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers.

[Paul Feig]

Thank you.

[John Lovett]

Thank you. Now watch this drive. We really graded this guy in a curve, specifically the curve an airplane makes when it flies into a skyscraper. But we libs just didn't get it. Bush was a hedgehog. He knew one the threat terrorism posed to society. Transformational leaders distill the world into simple moral terms. Churchill understood the coming danger of the Nazis. Gandhi understood the power of nonviolent resistance. Bill Clinton knew when Hillary Clinton was traveling for work. Of course, Bush's presidency is ultimately defined by the endless wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. It turns out a leader who only knows one thing is undone by. By all the things he didn't know. Anyway, this came to mind this week as we have a Republican president once again launching another preemptive war in the Middle East. And seeing how this administration has conducted this war, I found myself missing the days when we had a president who at least knew one thing. In a phone interview with CBS News, Trump said, I think the war is very complete, pretty much, while the Pentagon posted, we've only just begun to fight. So it's basically over, but we've only just begun to fight. What is this? Every divorce in LA? Trump was pressed on the contradiction. Mr. President, you've said the war is, quote, very complete, but your Defense Secretary

[Monet X Change]

says, this is just the beginning.

[John Lovett]

So which is it and how long

[Paul Feig]

should Americans be putting it in? Well, I think you could say it both.

[John Lovett]

Trump went on, if we subscribe to Everett's many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, then every possible outcome of a quantum event is, in fact, an actual outcome, another branch in a tree of parallel universes that exist in quantum superposition. Schrodinger's cat is dead in one and alive in another. The war in Iran is over and it has only just begun. So it's a dumb question, you ugly pig bitch. As of this recording, seven Americans are dead and hundreds of Iranians have been killed, including many children at a school that appears to have been hit by an American cruise missile. As evidence mounted that the school was hit by US strikes, Trump claimed that Iran was responsible. Did the United States bomb a girl's elementary school in southern Iran on the first day of the war and kill 175 people?

[Paul Feig]

Based on what I've seen, that was done by Iran.

[John Lovett]

Is that true, Mr. Hickset? It was Iran who did that.

[Paul Feig]

We're certainly investigating.

[John Lovett]

They're very inaccurate, as you know, with their munitions.

[Paul Feig]

They have no accuracy whatsoever.

[John Lovett]

It was done by Iran also, and you're never going to believe this. Those girls flew themselves to Epstein's Island. Bunch of little Amelia Earharts. Crazy stuff. Trump was pressed on that claim during a press conference Monday. You just suggested that Iran somehow got its hands on a Tomahawk and bombed its own elementary school on the first day of the war. But you're the only person in your government saying this. Even your defense secretary wouldn't say that when he was asked, standing over your shoulder on your plane on Saturday. Why are you the only person saying this? Because I just don't know enough about it. I think it's something that I was told is under investigation. But Tomahawks are used by others.

[Paul Feig]

As you know, numerous other nations have tomahawks.

[John Lovett]

They buy them from us. But I will certainly, whatever the report shows, I'm willing to live with that report. Of course, when he says live with the report, he means he's going to steal the report and put it in a box in his bathroom at home. It's hard to know if Trump even understands the gravity of what he's done. You just said it is a little

[Monet X Change]

excursion, and you said it is a war.

[John Lovett]

So which one is it?

[Paul Feig]

Well, it's both.

[John Lovett]

It's both. It's an excursion that will keep us out of a war.

[Paul Feig]

And the war is going to be.

[John Lovett]

I mean, for them, it's a war. For us, it's turned out to be easier than we thought. Easier than we thought? What, was he worried the school might fire back? How are we supposed to joke about this? The news is so fucking heavy. I don't know how we're supposed to joke about it when the news is so fucking heavy. I need a drink. Ideally one made by an acclaimed director. Well, hi there, Joe. Oh, hi. Paul Feig.

[Paul Feig]

Cheers to you.

[John Lovett]

Thank you, Paul Feig.

[Paul Feig]

You're doing great work.

[John Lovett]

Thanks a lot, Paul Feig. Fantastic. Ah, is Amanda Seyfried in this? Because it's a Paul Feig triumph. The Housemaid now available on Demand. I do want this. Hold on. Tough week with news. The reason Trump has begun calling this war an excursion is because he's worried about oil prices. There are reports that Iran has been laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz. On Wednesday, three commercial ships were attacked near the strait. And in his first comments since becoming Iran's new Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, 2 Death to America. Boogaloo announced via statement on state TV that Iran would continue to block the Strait as a tool to pressure the enemy. Well, I don't feel any pressure, declared Trump before asking Marco Rubio to invent, and I quote, a Flintstone car. But real Iran's new leader is the son of the previous leader, who was killed by airstrikes and seems to be a younger version of his father, only more radical. And now pretty angry about Trump killing his entire family. But always exciting to see a new generation get involved in politics, I guess. Meanwhile, according to Fox News host Brian Kilmeade, Trump told him that tankers waiting at the Strait of Hormuz should just simply stop being such pussies. Here's exactly what he said. These ships should go through the Strait

[Paul Feig]

of Hormuz and show some guts. There's nothing to be afraid of.

[John Lovett]

They have no navy. We sunk all their ships. Here we have footage of Trump trying to convince oil tankers to go through the Strait of Hormuzz. No, no, no, no. Hey, go ahead. It's right in there. Oh, Jimmy, I'm in a hurry.

[Paul Feig]

My mom's watching the kids get home.

[John Lovett]

I'll come back later. Oil prices have surged. The Energy department announced that 172 million barrels of oil will be released from its strategic reserve over the next four months. But we use, like, 20 million barrels of oil on the way here. 172 million barrels is barely a week's worth. If we want that oil to last four months, we're going to need a bigger Hanukkah. But not to worry. The Pentagon has been laser focused on what matters, barring press photographers from briefings about the war because they published photos of Hegseth that his staff considered unflattering. This is real, unfortunately, and I am not proud of this. It's the most relatable Pete Hegseth has ever seemed to me. I also don't believe for a second that it was Hegseth staff who found those photos unflattering. I know it's a lie because I have a great team here, and they are smart and they want what's best for me in the show. And at least once a month, they select a thumbnail photo of my face that undoes three years of therapy. Speaking of looking good, the Wall Street Journal reported this week that Trump has been gifting male members of his cabinet matching pairs of his favorite sho. The loose one pictured on the right belonged to Marco Rubio. Trump's not even asking for sizes, really. He's just eyeballing it, and you get what you get. Scott Besson had to cut off his big toes. Making your subordinates match you. What kind of loser freak does that? For those at home, that's me, Sarah, and Hallie at the Ambies in matching suits. I thought we looked pretty good. That's a good picture. Look at us, said one female official of Trump's shoes. It's hysterical because everybody's afraid not to wear them, but it's not a cult. But if he gives you shoes, you have to wear them. At least they get some anonymity in the bathroom. Who's crying in the next aisle over? Go ahead, peek under their bider. Could be anybody. Anyway, back to the war. In amazing news for everyone physically at this show, the FBI has warned police departments in California that Iran might want to strike the state with drones in retaliation. A Reuters Ipsos poll found that just 27% of Americans support the war. Incredibly low compared to previous conflicts. Which is why when Lindsey Graham, AKA the gay of Hormuz, said this. We're marching through the world.

[Paul Feig]

We're cleaning out the bad guys.

[John Lovett]

This is Rotterdam. Reagan. Our military is the best of all time.

[Monet X Change]

Iran is going down, and Cuba is next.

[John Lovett]

In response, Meghan Kelly said this. No one elected you as our commander in chief. Shut the fuck up. Get off the national scene. You've disgraced yourself and endangered our troops long enough. Megan, we had a zoom to confer. And you can call Lindsey Graham a fag one time. You get one freebie. It's our gift to you. Kind of Airbnb with Sheehan, by the way. What's that? Usually she's in some sort of, like, red, like, kind of like Hieronymous Bosch red. Kind of wall behind, you know, with all of this has contributed to Trump's unpopularity, his failure to address Americans chief concerns over prices, and it's put Republicans on a path to defeat in the midterms. Which is why on. Yeah, that's right. Which is why on Monday, Trump told House Republicans that they must pass the SAVE act, his election overhaul bill, to require a birth certificate or passport to vote. And I'm not doing it for this reason at all. It'll guarantee the midterms. It'll guarantee the midterms. If you don't get it, big trouble. My opinion, why is he being coy about this? He incited a mob to storm the Capitol to overturn an election, and then he pardoned the mob. You can say you're doing it for that reason. We know you're doing it for that reason. The cat's out of the bag and pooping on Nancy Pelosi's desk. Things are looking so bad for Republicans that on Tuesday, White House Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair privately urged Republican House members to stop talking about mass deportations. Responded Stephen Miller, then how am I supposed to come? And it is pretty crazy, because mass deportations were like the centerpiece of their 2024 platform. It's like if Joe Biden had to tell Democrats to stop talking about.

[Monet X Change]

No, no.

[John Lovett]

This week, Vote Save America is launching Project 218. This is our campaign to take back the House. We need as many people to sign up as possible, and we need you to get your friends and family to sign up, too. That's our first ask to sign up and get five friends, five co workers, five members of your family to sign up. This is where we are going to organize. We're going to find the best ways to get involved in the next six months. And spam texts from random candidates and organizations, they don't cut it. It's useless. We will give you the best ways to volunteer and donate and share good information. So please, please, right now, go to votesaveamerica.com and sign up. Pause this podcast and take 30 seconds to sign up. Now. Do come back. We have worked hard on the next joke. Now it's just us. This is just a moment for us. Hey, I noticed no one's taking out their phones to sign up right now. Great. So right back in my face. What do you say to Trump when his regime change war backfires and winds up installing someone even worse? I told you so. We're now going to have a debate in Congress over whether to approve additional funding for the Pentagon to the tune of $50 billion, or slightly less than what I'm spending on this fucking wedding. This guy knows what I'm talking about. All right? And this is despite reports that the Pentagon has been struggling to spend the $1 trillion it already has. The Daily Beast has a story that the Pentagon has been on a spending spree, including an almost $100,000 Steinway grand piano for the Air Force Chief of staff's home and $21,000 on a handmade Japanese flute. Jesus Christ, how'd they find such a cheap flute? Or maybe I'm getting ripped off by my wedding vendors.

[Monet X Change]

Fuck.

[John Lovett]

Anyway, back to the war. The vast majority of Republicans will fall in line and support more funding. The vast majority of Democrats will oppose it. And yet House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries wouldn't commit either way, saying, on Sunday, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. No, don't cross the bridge. You don't even have to get to the bridge. You can stop walking right now. Delaware Senator Chris Coons told Crooked's own Matt Berg, I would not vote to authorize this war through a supplemental. Okay. But he also said, I am interested in and will listen to arguments about what's necessary to protect our troops. I have to tell you, I feel like I am not smart enough to understand these complexities. Like, I can't appreciate the nuance. You're all trying to be foxes, but I'm in the market for a hedgehog. There's actually only one thing we need to know. Trump is an unfit fucking moron. Do not fund his illegal war. Do not enable him. That's it. I know that we are foxes by nature, but it's hedgehog time, bitches. Oh, you fired gnome. So we should fund DHS now? No can do. I'm covered in tiny little spikes. You want funding for a war Congress didn't approve because a trillion dollars isn't enough? No can do. I'm rolled into a tight ball and covered in tiny little fucking spikes. Isaiah Berlin's conclusion in that essay, which I know you're all fucking fully horny to get more details about, was that sometimes greatness comes when foxes want to be hedgehogs. Sometimes the world is complicated, but sometimes the answer isn't. And that answer is a second martini from Paul Feek. Thank you, Paul Feek.

[Paul Feig]

Cheers, John.

[John Lovett]

Cheers. Call this one the Housemaid, because you just know that a twist. We'll be right back. All right.

[Monet X Change]

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[John Lovett]

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[Paul Feig]

Paul Peak.

[John Lovett]

Wow. Hi. Thanks for being here.

[Paul Feig]

Come on. You nailed it, John.

[John Lovett]

Nailed it. I nailed it.

[Paul Feig]

I nailed it. Oh, my God.

[John Lovett]

So first of all, you know, the last time you were so excited you were here because the last time you're here, you made cocktails.

[Paul Feig]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

And once again, you're making cocktails because this is your own gym. Ardingstahl Gin.

[Paul Feig]

Yes.

[John Lovett]

And I'm a gin person. As we discussed. Is there any. Are there any trends that you're getting on board with. With drinking? Because for a while they were putting drinks with dry ice. It was. And then there was a lot of science around the drinks.

[Paul Feig]

Yeah, I don't. All that kind of molecular mixology. I don't know. I just like a good straight up martini. Cheers.

[John Lovett]

Cheers.

[Paul Feig]

There we go.

[John Lovett]

This is good. This is. This is. We're in business now. We're in business now.

[Paul Feig]

If something's great, don't mess with it. I like here, John, I brought you my book.

[John Lovett]

Oh, your book.

[Paul Feig]

Yes.

[John Lovett]

Oh, thank you. Cocktail time. I like, you know. Cause I want. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. Oh, thank you. This is such a nice little signature from you in there. I'm gonna look through this because I want to pick out some fun cocktails because I'm gonna get married in a couple months and we get to.

[Paul Feig]

I hear.

[John Lovett]

I'm gonna get gonna. Cocktail time. Great advice, embarrassing stories and 125 classic and original drinks.

[Paul Feig]

There you go.

[John Lovett]

I wanna make sure I read it. I'm gonna find a cool gin drink in there. Cause obviously everyone knows a martini and I love a martini. Bill, our producer, said, what kind of gin drink do you like? And I said, martini. And he said, okay, what's another gin drink you like? And I said, a second martini.

[Paul Feig]

There you go. There you go. I like it.

[John Lovett]

So the last time you were here, you were promoting Another Simple Favor, and you said you were breaking your no sequels rule. Tonight I'll do it again. Because apparently you're already working on a sequel to the Housemaid.

[Paul Feig]

Yeah. Oh, thank you. Yay. Hi. Thanks. Yeah, we are. We're gonna start shooting in the fall.

[John Lovett]

And now in the first movie, Amanda Seyfried and Sydney Sweeney do not kiss.

[Paul Feig]

No, they slap.

[John Lovett]

Something to think about. Because in a Simple favor.

[Paul Feig]

Yes.

[John Lovett]

Blake Lively And Anna Kendrick do kiss.

[Paul Feig]

Yes.

[John Lovett]

And it seems like it's stupid that they didn't kiss in this movie. Kiss. Kiss. Kiss. You know, people like kissing in the movies.

[Paul Feig]

Well, there's a lot of kissing between Sidney and Brandon Sklenar.

[John Lovett]

Oh, yeah. A guy and stuff.

[Paul Feig]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

So have you thought about making a sequel to Bridesmaids? Because even if it was bad, you'd make so much money.

[Paul Feig]

I know. Exactly.

[John Lovett]

It's stupid not to.

[Paul Feig]

Well, I know that's the problem. Most people do those sequels just to make that money, but I don't know. For some reason, Bridesmaids to me feels like it's just a singular event because, you know.

[John Lovett]

Yeah.

[Paul Feig]

Well, with that, like another. I know. Trust me, everybody wants us to make one to make a lot of money, but I don't know, I. When something. When you get away with something. And that we really got away with just because everything kind of worked, you know, Like a sequel would be what, Another Crazy Wedding? The whole reason that movie works is that Kristen Wiig's character is going through this terrible time and she's a mess, and then she kind of fixes herself. So you can't do another one where she is a mess again.

[John Lovett]

No. I guess we could spend five minutes thinking about something else.

[Paul Feig]

Yeah. You coming to the writers room, John?

[John Lovett]

I felt like you're turning something over. I think you're finding your way there. I think there's a dark forest in front of you. And on the other side is a sequel to Bridesmaids.

[Paul Feig]

Cut through it.

[John Lovett]

Oh, nice. I think you just have to enter that forest and get a little lost.

[Paul Feig]

There you go.

[John Lovett]

Yeah. Yes. Obviously, everyone thinks of divorce first.

[Paul Feig]

Well, you know this. It's our 15 year anniversary and the Oscars on Sunday. The cast is gonna reunite on stage.

[John Lovett]

That's so exciting. It's so funny. It's so good. It's still so good.

[Paul Feig]

It holds up.

[John Lovett]

It really does. It's so fun.

[Paul Feig]

I just had to remaster the whole thing with new sound and we bumped up the quality and everything.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, you said that now Kristen Wiig shoots first.

[Paul Feig]

Yes, exactly.

[John Lovett]

And then at some point, Jabba comes in, but doesn't look like Jabba.

[Paul Feig]

Right, Exactly. Right.

[John Lovett]

That's cool.

[Paul Feig]

I never took you for a Star wars nerd.

[John Lovett]

Why not?

[Paul Feig]

Because I.

[John Lovett]

You are.

[Paul Feig]

Yes, so. But only the first two. It's gotten too wonky for me now.

[John Lovett]

Oh, really?

[Paul Feig]

Who's with me on this? I should have saved that for the first trilogy.

[John Lovett]

The first two movies.

[Paul Feig]

Yeah, the.

[John Lovett]

The. The.

[Paul Feig]

You know.

[John Lovett]

Yes. Of Course.

[Paul Feig]

And Empire Strikes Back.

[John Lovett]

But it's pretty funny to be a Star wars fan. That's been out since Return of the Jedi. It's like, okay, so it's been a long time. They made a lot of stuff.

[Paul Feig]

I just re. Watch those first two movies over and over again.

[John Lovett]

If you're a. Because if you're a fan of 5% of something. Yeah.

[Paul Feig]

Are.

[John Lovett]

What are you? I guess.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Paul Feig]

But OG.

[John Lovett]

No, believe me, I'm with you. I'm with you.

[Paul Feig]

Thank you.

[John Lovett]

But Andor. Did you watch Andor?

[Paul Feig]

No. And I know I should because I know it's very political and I love politics. But here's the thing. My. My issue with Star wars controversial is I saw the first Star wars opening weekend when I was 13 or 14. That place, that theater, which was packed every minute. At least there was a giant laugh. That movie was funny.

[John Lovett]

Yes.

[Paul Feig]

And then Empire Strikes Back was funny. And then it started to get not funny. They start taking themselves too seriously. So I want to get. Let's go back to the fun Star Wars.

[John Lovett]

Oh, I totally agree. Well, I agree.

[Paul Feig]

I think I'm making a lot of enemies right now, too.

[John Lovett]

No, no.

[Paul Feig]

I don't think the Internet already hates me because of Ghostbusters. Now I'm really fucked.

[John Lovett]

I don't think that's true. I don't think you're wrong about that. I think it's. I like. No, I don't think Star Wars. I like Andor in part because it does take itself seriously, but it meets the threshold. It is serious. I don't mind when something serious and takes itself seriously. And I don't mind when something silly and doesn't take itself seriously. The problem is when the prequels are silly but act like they're high art. It's like, I don't need that. If you're camp, be camp. I love camp. But Andor is a drama.

[Paul Feig]

No, and I do need to watch that because, I mean, that's Tony Gilroy. Right? So.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, it is. He's been on. He's been on this very show.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, my gosh. Now I'm honored.

[John Lovett]

The last time you were here, I tried to get you to talk about the drama around Blake Lively. And I won't do that again. Jesus. So did.

[Paul Feig]

Why did I come back?

[John Lovett]

Did Sydney Sweeney talk at all about what it was like to be in the Capitol on January 6th? I'm just kidding. That's. That's not fair. I know it's not fair. I know it's not. Not there. That's why It's a joke. That's what upset you? I said the craziest during the mon.

[Paul Feig]

Sydney's a sweetheart. That's all. She great.

[John Lovett]

She was all crazy. I was just joking. My God.

[Paul Feig]

That's the only reason he brought me on the show. Was that joke?

[John Lovett]

No, I wanted to have a martini. So transition

[Paul Feig]

cut to.

[John Lovett]

So I wanted to ask you about. Because we talked about Freaks and Geeks last time you were on, and a lot of that flows from. You wrote a book about it. Kick Me. Right. That kind of gets at some of your childhood experiences as well. And we already resolved that it is not based on Long island where Judd Apatow is from. It is based on Michigan, where you are from. And I just want to be on the record as saying that. That I learned from the last show. And remember that we had a conversation about it. Even though on some level, when I see it, it does take place in my high school and I can't change it.

[Paul Feig]

But it should be universal, though.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, it is, universally for me, because it's in my high school.

[Paul Feig]

Very good.

[John Lovett]

But you wrote great stories about growing up in the 70s, but a lot of them about discovery. Can you talk about finding your dad's Nazi flag? They were like, what?

[Paul Feig]

It sounds worse. No, My father was in World War II, and he came back, he went into one of the people that went in and took over, you know, in Germany, all that stuff, and he and his friends took back all this kind of war paraphernalia, and he had it in a bag in the back of his closet. I used to sneak into my dad's closet, look through cool stuff, and there was, like, you know, knives and all this stuff. And once at the bottom, I was like, oh, what's this red thing? I pull it out and I unspool it. Like, wow. Hey, this is cool. Look at this flag. And I'm like 8 or 9. So I go like, I want to show this off to the neighborhood. So I went and I taped it up in our front window. This giant Nazi flag. And I'm like, this is cool. And then I see my mom's car coming around the corner. I'm like, oh, she's going to be really excited that I have this up. And I see the car all of a sudden go and, like, screech into the driveway. My mother comes running in and, like, rips it. I was like, what? I thought dad would think it's really cool to have this up. She'd go, do you know what that is?

[John Lovett]

No.

[Paul Feig]

So I learned About Nazis from my mother.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, it's. It is. Obviously the context is the most important thing. And I want to be on the record as saying the context is the most important thing. It's a great design. They really nailed it. I'm sorry. They did. They fucking nailed it.

[Paul Feig]

Well, it was from India, right? It was a. It's supposed to be like a good luck sign or something.

[John Lovett]

It's in a few places. It was sort of as like. I think it had multiple origin points of. But it is like a kind of very like, it's, you know, it's like there's the Nike swoosh, the swastika. They both crushed for different reasons. What? I hate them Nazis. Nike's great. Hate the Nazis. I'm on the record.

[Paul Feig]

Well, there was a Lenny Bruce joke about that. He said, oh, we'll do four sevens. It's lucky.

[John Lovett]

So you also wrote about being a virgin until you were 24. And I'm just curious, like, what was. I'll tell you what I felt when I read that. It was like, wow, what's your secret?

[Paul Feig]

Being terrified of everything. Yeah, I was just, you know, look, I couldn't get undressed in gym class, you know, so the thought of, like exposing yourself that emotionally and physically to any other person was abhorrent to me. Even though, you know, I wished I could. But, you know, it's weird when you're. Especially in the. I mean, I guess it's probably this way now, but in the 70s, everybody was so kind of, you know, disco and all this. I was. I was in high school from 70s, 6 to 80. And it was all, you know, people going nuts. So all my classmates were having sex, clearly. And I remember once I walked out of a. Out of one class. And this kid who I hated, he was like a bully and stuff. He goes like, hey. Yelled to his friend, like, if she's not gonna kiss, she's not gonna. And I was just like, God. So, I mean, all these things would happen. You go like. It's so unattractive everything about this. So I. I just. I put it off till 24.

[John Lovett]

I mean, do you think there is a connection between what you just described and the fact that you have built a career being a great director of great female comedians, that there's some. Like, is that connected to you at all?

[Paul Feig]

Yeah, well, I mean, I was an only child who was really close with my mom. My dad wasn't around a lot. Cause he ran a store and my next door neighbors were. It was eight. A family of eight Kids, Six of them were girls. And they were all my best friends. So I just. I always, you know, it's very, very much pro. Like, if you have boys, make sure they're friends with girls, you know? Cause I just kind of grew up around, so I under, you know, I knew what girls were about as much as, you know, I could. But then seeing in watching old movies with my mom of, like, you know, from the 30s and 40s of Rosalind Russell and, you know, Katharine Hepburn and all these strong, you know, female characters that were equals with the men and then being in love with comedy, especially like in the 70s and 80s when women just started to become props, you know, for guys to be funny against and whatever. And I was like, those aren't. That's not. The women I know aren't like that. The women I know are funny and cool and all this stuff. So it just. It was like I never latched into that sort of male, you know, not necessarily toxic masculinity, although some of it is, but just that kind of, like, guys rule and women are props thing. And so I just always wanted to tell these female stories.

[John Lovett]

That's nice. Oh, well, speaking of, you have this movie, the Housemaid, and that led us to want to play a game.

[Paul Feig]

I love games.

[John Lovett]

Disgusting, depraved, Debased. Yep. Political news has been pretty gross recently. In fact, we want to challenge you in a game we're calling Sexual Congress or Sexual Congress.

[Paul Feig]

I don't want to think about Congress as sexual at all, to be quite honest.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, it sucks. I'll read you a salacious scenario. You'll tell us if it's from an erotic thriller or actual political news. Are you ready? First up, a Texas gubernatorial candidate's marriage implodes after he discovers his wife's secret affair with a teenage boy.

[Paul Feig]

That's gotta be real.

[John Lovett]

It is an erotic thriller. It's from Netflix's the Hunting Wives.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, there you go.

[John Lovett]

Texas attorney general's marriage implodes after his wife discovers his affair with a Christian influencer who has seven children.

[Paul Feig]

Real.

[John Lovett]

That is real. From the news, that's Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, who got served with divorce papers last summer after his wife found out about his secret romance with a Christian influencer. It's a second affair we know about. So pretty bleak.

[Paul Feig]

He's the gift that keeps on giving that guy.

[John Lovett]

Pretty bleak.

[Paul Feig]

That too.

[John Lovett]

Bleak. Next up, a glamorous girl boss and her brutish lover travel the globe in their specifically outfitted sex play.

[Paul Feig]

That's got to be a Sex Plane.

[John Lovett]

Sex Plane.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, Sex Plane. That's got to be a movie.

[John Lovett]

You'd think it was, but it's in fact.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, what am I talking about? It's Cory.

[John Lovett]

Yes. It's Corey and Christina. You got it.

[Paul Feig]

The Love Plane. There they are. Oh, God. Oh, boy.

[John Lovett]

There it is.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, God. You can almost smell it from here, can't you?

[John Lovett]

What I think about when I see this plane is, like, whatever's going on with the sheets. Like when, you know when you go to a hotel and they have, like, the sheets and there's some kind of, like, decorative blanket, and, like, the first thing I do, I walk into, I was like, get that as far away from the bed as humanly fucking possible. That thing has not been washed since it was put here the day the hotel opened. Like, that blanket is not washable. What is that?

[Paul Feig]

Is that the blanket that the pilot got fired for not bringing?

[John Lovett]

No. It might be. It could be. I could be.

[Paul Feig]

I would like it if it was that big for Binky.

[John Lovett]

Next up, a man embarks on a dark, thrilling journey into the heart of the gay leather BDSM scene.

[Paul Feig]

Well, that could be anybody. True.

[John Lovett]

It happens to be the plot of the film Cruising, starring Al Pashino, but

[Paul Feig]

I think it could apply to most of Congress. Hey, did you see that in the theater, Cruising? No, actually. No. I actually saw it later. I remember when it came out. I don't think I was old enough to be able to get in when it came out.

[John Lovett]

I'm trying to remember. What year would it have been? Oh, it was 1980. So you would have. You could have just gone.

[Paul Feig]

I was right on the cusp. I had a date once. I wanted to take this girl to see the Shining, and I was in love with her. And she was 19 and I was 16, and they wouldn't let it. They carded me, wouldn't let me in. So we had to go see the Get Smart movie the Nude Bomb, and she never went out with me again. So there you go.

[John Lovett]

I don't think, like, the Shining is so romantic.

[Paul Feig]

Well, I don't think she wanted to see it because she thought it was cool. I was terrified. I hated scary movies back then. I was really scared.

[John Lovett]

Shining's pretty good.

[Paul Feig]

Shining's great. You know what's better, though? The book.

[John Lovett]

I like the book.

[Paul Feig]

The book is amazing.

[John Lovett]

I like the book. The book. Well, the challenge he had in adapting it is.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, yeah.

[John Lovett]

Is that he becomes a beast. It's really much more. Yeah, it's more magical. The book.

[Paul Feig]

And I'M like an asshole for being a movie director saying the book is better. No.

[John Lovett]

I want you to know something. If there's any audience that is receptive to the book is better, this is the book is better crowd.

[Paul Feig]

Unless I make a movie about a book, then the movie's better.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, I want to read Rebecca. Yeah, because I've never read it, but the Hitchcock movie is great. But I want to read the book.

[Paul Feig]

Totally.

[John Lovett]

But that's neither here nor there. Next up, a high powered woman finds herself wanting more than just safety from her trusted bodyguard.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, that's a movie.

[John Lovett]

It's a movie. But it's also true because it is the plot of 1992's The Bodyguard. It's also a show. The Bodyguard and Cinema and Kirsten Cinema. Kirsten Cinema. Kirsten Cinema. According to a lawsuit filed by somebody's estranged wife, Cinema sent him a photo of herself in a towel suggesting he bring MDMA on a work trip and said she could guide him through the psychedelic experience. Cool.

[Paul Feig]

Wow. Yeah, like an ayahuasca thing going on.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, it's like, oh, centrism.

[Paul Feig]

I do like her glasses. I will say.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, she has good glasses. She has good glasses. You know, Broken cock.

[Paul Feig]

If I can say something positive about Crystal.

[John Lovett]

You won the game.

[Paul Feig]

No, Did I win? That was a nail biter. It was a nail biter.

[John Lovett]

The Housemaid is streaming on Demand right now.

[Paul Feig]

It is available for.

[John Lovett]

But they don't kiss in this one.

[Paul Feig]

Well, there is kissing. There's kissing, kissing and sex.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, and there's sex. Yes.

[Paul Feig]

Sorry. Then you gotta go to watch another simple favor. Then you'll see.

[John Lovett]

And then there's. Then there are Blake Lively and Anna Kendrick kissing. That one.

[Paul Feig]

Yes, yes, exactly.

[John Lovett]

We'll be right back.

[Monet X Change]

Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love it or leave it coming up.

[John Lovett]

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[Monet X Change]

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[John Lovett]

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[Paul Feig]

Oh, hello.

[John Lovett]

Hi, Monet. Hi.

[Monet X Change]

Also correction, Sydney Sweeney was not storming the Capitol because she was at home trying on her jeans.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, she was. She was trying on those jeans.

[Monet X Change]

Those things are so tight, girl. She can't walk upstairs in them things. Can you imagine? It'd be awful.

[John Lovett]

I like the skinny jeans era, and I do miss it.

[Monet X Change]

Absolutely not really skinny jeans. Oh, my God. And they were all low rise. Too awful.

[John Lovett]

I. You know, it's funny because everyone would make fun of skinny jeans, and I'd be like, I like them. I like wearing them because I'm little and I like. But I'm learning. These pants are not skinny jeans. I've moved. I'm adapting and growing and changing and trying to stay current with the times. Because you realize that, oh, like, in my mind, dad outfits are what dads wore when I was a kid. But the dad outfit moves through time with us. And then all of a sudden, you realize, oh, ask not for whom the dad outfit tolls. It tolls for thee.

[Monet X Change]

No, I have a lot of thigh, a lot of ass. I can't be wearing no skinny jeans. It's not a good look on me. No, I like oversized, baggy. I like looking like I'm going to middle school my entire life, you know?

[John Lovett]

So drag race season 18 is airing now. Are you watching the current season?

[Monet X Change]

I am watching. Bob and I, we do a podcast, sibling watchery, where we review episodes of Drag Race. And it's a good season. It's a good batch of girls. The median age is now, like, in their 30s. So it's like. So they're more respectable queens. They actually have a point of view. Last season, they were all like, 22. I was like, ew, get out of here. You don't know anything about life. What are you talking about? Yeah, but.

[John Lovett]

And we know. And you know a lot about life, because people in their 30s know a lot about life.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. I am now in my late mid-30s, and I'm having a good time. It's nice on the side. I'm closer to 40 now than I, you know, than 30. And it feels good. And I'm aging decently, and I'm not mad at it. Yeah, I think I'm doing good. Although sometimes I see my age and white women, they gasp. And then I realize, out of drag. In drag, I look like this beautiful goddess out of drag. When I forget to shave my head. Cause I'm a balding black man. I'm not bald. I'm balding. And the hairline's giving cul de sac, you know what I'm saying? So I look like all my life I had to fight.

[John Lovett]

Well, so I would. I think, like, so this. This. So this ring here, that's from the Hebrew God, but the top here is from a Jewish man in Beverly Hills, so. Which is so, in a sense, so like, this organic, this sort of stilled from the Jews, but, like, so sort of. So, like, sort of gut. Yeah, you get. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, that's what I did. I simply, emotionally couldn't go bald. I respect people who have the confidence to do it. I don't have it well, I have a good head.

[Monet X Change]

You have a great. You look great. I have a good head. I give good head. It's all good, you know?

[John Lovett]

Do you think queens should be playing fictional characters on Snatch Game instead of real celebrities?

[Monet X Change]

Wow. This is a point of contention. You know, Some people, like, people are like, please stop making up characters. Why are you playing Sasquatch? Why are you playing the devil? Whatever? And I'm like, guys, we're What? We're now 18 seasons in, and also 10 seasons of All Stars, so just almost 30 seasons of drag Race. Like, you kind of running out of the good celebrities. Like, who you gonna be? Like, Pat Sajak? Like, I don't. So wore a wig, did he?

[Paul Feig]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Really? Pat, he ain't go to Turkey.

[John Lovett]

He's alive or dead. He's alive.

[Paul Feig]

He's alive.

[John Lovett]

He's alive. So I don't know. Oh, so then he could be litigious. I think he wore a wig. That's based on my recollection. If it's wrong, I'm sorry.

[Monet X Change]

Well, it was great. It was great. And, like, so I'm all about making up a character. I mean, if you play. If you're making up, like, your grandma, like, no, like, give us, like, a cause. Sasquatch is a celebrity. Jesus is a celebrity.

[John Lovett]

For sure.

[Monet X Change]

They're all celebrities, so it has to be something like that. Not your cousin Vinny. I don't know Vinny, you know.

[John Lovett]

What were you gonna say, Paul?

[Monet X Change]

You have a great head of hair, by the way.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, my God. Thank you so much.

[Monet X Change]

It's a beautiful head of hair.

[Paul Feig]

For years, I've wanted to be a judge on Drag Race, and they won't let me do it.

[Monet X Change]

Why haven't you been here, Segu?

[Paul Feig]

I'm. Yeah, I would love to.

[Monet X Change]

That is crazy. They need to have you on. Can I tell you, when I walked up the backstage, when I saw you there, I am a huge fan of yours. Obviously, the amazing movies you've done, all the stuff you've done. You. I know you, and I love you. From Mr. Poole. From Sabrina the Teenage Witch.

[John Lovett]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

I watch every single episode of Sabrina. I used to walk around my house pointing at the toaster like. You know what I mean? So I'm a. So that's.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, my goodness.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Paul Feig]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

I had to say that.

[Paul Feig]

That's a deep cut. I love it. Thank you.

[John Lovett]

Also in a film called Ski Patrol.

[Monet X Change]

Ski Patrol.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, my God.

[John Lovett]

And there were two movies. One was called Ski Patrol and the other was called Ski School, and I don't remember which. And one of them was kind of a little bit more.

[Paul Feig]

Ski School was raunchy. Yes. Was family friendly.

[John Lovett]

Yeah. Yours was the family. Ski Patrol was family friendly. Ski School was super raunchy.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, yes.

[Monet X Change]

What are we doing at ski school?

[John Lovett]

They're like, there are just. There are boobs on the mountain.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wow.

[John Lovett]

Just boobs out on the mountain.

[Paul Feig]

There's boobs and an outhouse that turns over on somebody and they get all over. Oh. So we were not going. We were going much class.

[John Lovett]

Yeah. Yeah. Ski Patrol is the thinking man. Ski. Ski Pat.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, my.

[John Lovett]

Are there any changes you would make to Drag Race?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yes. Okay. One. I think that RuPaul. Love her. We need to have another queen on the dais. Right. I think that, like, RuPaul famously will not have any other queens. It can only be her. Raven has made a brief cameo, but not to really judge. So I think we need to get other queens. Like, there are seasoned queens from the show who have done and gone on to do amazing things. Bring a Trixie back. Bring a Bianca back there. Bring him on X change. I don't know. Someone behind there. I think they should do that. And I think we need to mix up the challenges. I think some of them just put them to bed. Snatch Game is getting worse and worse every season. I'm like, put it to bed. Think of something new. There are so many other games you could do that are fun.

[Paul Feig]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

I feel like, what's the kind of character that's allowed on Snatch Game? It's like, is it funny? If it's funny, you can do it.

[Paul Feig]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

But it's gotta be performed.

[Monet X Change]

It's gotta be funny. Yeah.

[John Lovett]

It's gotta have a little game to it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes.

[John Lovett]

So now, Paul.

[Paul Feig]

Yeah. Yes.

[John Lovett]

You have a story in your memoir.

[Paul Feig]

Wow.

[John Lovett]

You're so classy about dressing up in your mother's clothes.

[Paul Feig]

Yes.

[John Lovett]

Which is, to my mind. Drag it is.

[Paul Feig]

Drag it is.

[John Lovett]

What did you take away from your experience of doing drag as a child?

[Paul Feig]

No, I always rode around in my. Clearly, when I found my father's Nazi flag, I used to root around my parents closet and I found this like, blonde wig that I put on once and I thought I looked really pretty. And so then I went in my mom's closet and I found these clothes. I put on this dress and she had these like, like Nancy Sinatra, like, white tall boots. I put them on and so I was. So I. I kind of went into the living room, I was kind of dancing around, and all of a sudden I look up and all these kids from the neighborhood I know are staring through the window and I'm like, oh, hey. I try to pass off and go like, your mom's just been in a car accident. So I go like, oh, my God. So I go running. They go, it's over here. So I go running out in this outfit like, mom, are you okay? And I'm standing there, oh, my God. And they're pulling out of the car and she's okay, but she's shaken. And so I'm like, so sad. And then every eye in the neighborhood like, what the fuck are you wearing? And oh, my God. It was just.

[Monet X Change]

Paul. That story took a turn I was not ready for. I was not ready for that turn.

[John Lovett]

Paul. Wow. So Monet

[Paul Feig]

coming to a theater near you.

[John Lovett]

So you, you appeared in a 36 hour edition of Survivor, which is just about half the amount of time I spent on the real Survivor box. What was your 36 hour Survivor experience like?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I have to tell you first. So first they send this email and you know, people send random. You get random emails all the time, like fake ones, like, hey, come and be on John Lovett's podcast. It's some fake thing. They say they're gonna pay you $5,000. They're always fake. There's all these all the time. So I get the request for it. I'm like, this is nonsense. But I was like, just in case, let me just forward it to my agent. Just in case. Ended up being real. They wanted to bring eight influencers to Fiji and do the entire experience. And I was like, okay, they bring in eight influencers. They're gonna take it easy. They're not gonna do it. They're gonna, like, put the rain on and off for us. You know, they're gonna, you know, God is gonna do his thing. No, it was the legit thing. And Jeff said it was one of the worst storms they've had in the past 15 years doing this show.

[John Lovett]

When was this?

[Monet X Change]

This was in May. This was May something to something. So, y', all, I'm not kidding you. It started raining at 3pm it did not stop raining until 6am the next day. But you don't have your. So. And we had to build our own shelter for real. They were not taking it easy on us. So we were just sitting, getting rained on for over 12 hours, and I was like, this is gonna be my 13th reason, and I am gonna unalive myself on this beach. I was so cold. Why am I cold and wet in Fiji? Like, that's not what I want, you know? But it was fun, and I would totally do the. Do the real thing.

[John Lovett]

You would do the real thing?

[Monet X Change]

I absolutely would. Yeah.

[John Lovett]

I love Survivor, but I. Yeah, for me, so I have not. Last night I went, so Rob has a podcast. It's a big Survivor podcast. And so last night I went. They did a live show, and it was actually the first time I watched Survivor since I was voted off. Really?

[Paul Feig]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

It was, like, a big moment for. I was, like, getting back into it, and then I sort of needed to step back from it because, you know, like, you can love the theater, but if you're, let's say, the understudy for Hamilton, and they call you up and they say, we'd like you to be Hamilton, and they send you out there and you're like, I'm not gonna miss my shot. And then you shit yourself. Like, you can still love the theater, but you're probably not gonna go see Hamilton for a while.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

So I, like, took a break. So I took a break. But I would. Last night, being with the, like, the Rob as a podcast, like Survivor World, they're all so enthusiastic, and there were so many Survivors there. I was like, I got the bug again. I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna. I'm gonna give Jeff a buzz.

[Monet X Change]

Just one more game. One more.

[John Lovett]

It's not that I it up. I don't feel like I didn't have. I had a bad. I didn't have a bad experience. I want more.

[Paul Feig]

Let it rain.

[John Lovett]

Let it rain.

[Paul Feig]

You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

You don't want it rain.

[John Lovett]

I'm ready. I'm ready.

[Monet X Change]

But time is so distorted because you don't have your phone or anything, so you just know the sun is setting and the sun is rising. So the night feels like 29 hours long. When is the sun ever gonna come again?

[John Lovett]

I know. And then you miss three dinners and you go home.

[Paul Feig]

I have an interesting, interesting Survivor thing. When we did the Office, the reason the Office looks the way it does is Greg Daniels, who show ran the Office, got the cameramen from Survivor to shoot it. So they knew how to shoot documentary style. So that's why it looks so in the moment.

[John Lovett]

That's cool. That's cool. Yeah, it was interesting being there with the way they capture everything. So I'm talking about Traitors.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

You were great on Traitors.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you.

[John Lovett]

What a great experience too. But you know what? You did great. Listen, you were there forever as far as I'm concerned. So two things. First of all, we still. What happened at the reunion that we didn't see? Is there anything from the reunion that happened that we didn't see nothing of?

[Monet X Change]

No, it was just silly questions. I mean, listen, this reunion is run by Andy Cohen, who's obsessed with the Housewives. So I felt like they trimmed it back a lot. It felt very housewife heavy. It was like, Jesus Christ. If I had to hear one more thing about a housewife or nothing, I'm like, they're not even married. It was that, but. So that was really it. I think everything else, they just trimmed the fad. I think the network did a good job of showing really representing the reunion for what it was.

[John Lovett]

So controversial opinion.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, boy.

[John Lovett]

I love Housewives. I love Traitors. There's something about the way in which housewife culture feels more powerful than even the rules of the game, because it felt like Candace both was not enamored of Rob the way everyone else was, but also brought housewife rules to the Traitor's game and was more worried about housewife politics than winning because obviously the game was changing. She doesn't wanna vote for Lisa. It feels like she cared more about off screen future politics than what was happening on the show. Do you think there was a problem of like, kind of like the housewife mafia on Traitors?

[Monet X Change]

No, I just think that the Housewife players were not strategic and they weren't thinking. As a gamer, I think that Rob, even though he's from Love island, which is not a strategic game, he was thinking of having alliances in and outside of the turret, whereas the Housewives only focus on we're gonna protect our crew and the turret, which was their fatal flaw. Candace did. She made decisions and got rid of her greatest assets. She, like this, didn't make it to camera. But after Portia got banished. Me and Candace, we were so broken up about it. We went to the ballroom together and I was like, listen, Candace, I wanna talk to you. I was like, I think I know that you are faithful. I can feel it. I know you are. And I may be wrong and you don't know what I am. But I'll tell you this. If I am a traitor, I will never say your name and deter it. And if I'm a faithful, I will always defend you at the round table. And I'm asking for the same thing for you. She was like, I got you, girl. And the first time I said Lisa's name, she said it to Lisa. So she got rid of her. I was gonna ride with her as far. So she didn't do a good job of getting allies to keep her through the game. Once Lisa was gone, she lost her biggest play in the game.

[John Lovett]

That's such a good thing for you to say. You did the right thing.

[Paul Feig]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, I don't know what she was, but I mean, she. Obviously she knew what I was. Cause she was a traitor. But you know, I was like, I'll protect you. I'll be your ally whichever way it goes down. Yeah. So I think the housewife needs to think like, they need to think like gamers. You can't think like, this is not, you know, we're not turning tables, Theresa Giudice. You're playing the game of traitors, you

[John Lovett]

know, So I had Dorinda on the show. Loved talking to Dorinda, Had a blast. Everything I hoped she would be. I'm a huge fan of Ron Funches. He's been on this show. He's incredible. I love Ron. What happened?

[Monet X Change]

Here's the thing about Ron. Ron went into this game, this strategy game, but it's also a social game. And Ron was not trying to play with any of us socially. I would sit down with Ron in the foyer, in the thing, in the kitchen, and try to strike up a conversation. He's just like, yeah, so it's like. So you can't go out and say, oh, no one wanted to talk to me, be friends with me. I felt ostracized. When you ostracize yourself, people try to be friends with Ron and try to. Cause that's again, it's a social game also. So you gotta build connections that aren't just about who we were voting tonight. Like, you gotta drop little things so people feel connection to you, or else they don't wanna play the game with you.

[John Lovett]

So I, I hear that. But none of that would lead people to think he was a traitor. I guess what I would say is when Ron is kind of repeatedly somebody people wanna vote for, is it because they really thought he might be a traitor or because he hadn't played a good social game so it was sort of cost free to vote for him.

[Monet X Change]

I think it was more the social game was playing the bad social game was his undoing. Cuz he effed us all with the Porsche thing. Like he swayed the entire group.

[John Lovett]

I know.

[Monet X Change]

And we could have gotten the traitor out on the first night. We could have been the only group. Cause they were awful faithfuls, by the way. Cause this show was not casting faithfuls, they're casting red flags. All of them. They're awful. And so we ended up like he swayed us off of Donna and Portia was going home. And so that was really weird for everyone. Everyone was like, why were you so gung ho about Portia? So it was that and also the social game people were like, you're not talking to us. Like what are you really thinking? And we thought it was the Donna effect. Cause Donna was very vocal at first. Zana was talking, talking, talking. After the first night she got really quiet and really insular. So we were like, something is off with that. Like, I think the pressures of being a traitor were getting to her already. And that's why she just kind of recoiled. So we thought that was wrong too.

[John Lovett]

I'm sympathetic to Ron because I know what it's like to be like. Kind of like to feel he's an odd guy, but he's so funny and he's so smart and he's so talented. And I feel like he didn't find his groove with the group, that's all.

[Monet X Change]

Well, also, I will say after the show I have seen. Cause I didn't know much about Ron going in after the show and now the show is done. When we do press stuff together, he's very sweet. But in the context of the game, he was so quiet and wouldn't talk to anyone really. And I wanted him and Dorinda to get into it at the reunion. I wanted to know what that was. I was like, Dorinda.

[John Lovett]

She asked him what happened between that?

[Monet X Change]

Nothing. I don't know. I have no idea. Like no one knows.

[John Lovett]

No one knows.

[Monet X Change]

And Dorinda also will randomly facetime you. Yeah, like the other day I was just in my hotel room. She just faced me. I was like, hey girl, this feels inappropriate. And I tried to ask her and she didn't know either. So I'm like, what is this thing Ron knows that he hasn't told anyone?

[John Lovett]

Last question for you.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm engaged. Stop it.

[John Lovett]

Me too. Timothee Chalamet. Let's show the clip. Oh, stop. He's fantastic. Shut up. Let's show the clip. I admire people, and I've done it

[Monet X Change]

myself, to go on a talk show

[John Lovett]

and go, hey, we gotta keep movie theaters alive. You know, we gotta keep this genre alive.

[Monet X Change]

And I don't want to be working in ballet or opera or, you know, things where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive.

[John Lovett]

Even though no one cares about this anymore. All respect to the ballet and opera people out there.

[Monet X Change]

I just lost 14 cents in viewership.

[John Lovett]

But first of all, I'm finding out now that Matthew McConaughey is in this clip.

[Paul Feig]

Did you see, though, that the LA I think ballet company made? You can get a 20% discount with the code word Chalamet.

[Monet X Change]

I saw that.

[Paul Feig]

I saw that. I saw that. Well done.

[John Lovett]

You're a trained opera singer.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

What. What do you think about it? What do you think about what Tim said there?

[Monet X Change]

I think that people are blowing this clip out of. Out of. Out of proportion. If you watch the full context of the thing. He's not shitting on opera and shitting on ballet. First of all, his entire family is our ballerinas, like his mom, his sister, his cousin, his grandfather, his. His niece, Everyone, they're all doing pirouettes all day long. Okay? So he wasn't shitting on that. He was just saying, like. And as someone from the opera world, opera is completely. Is very gatekeepy. And it is only. They think that only rich white people like opera, which is not true. So I think he's speaking of, like, it's a dying art form that way. Like, people in urban areas and urban communities and inner city people don't feel that they can go to opera. Cause it's not for them. And opera is dying, y'.

[Paul Feig]

All.

[Monet X Change]

People like these companies cannot afford. So many opera houses have closed in the past three years in America, you would gag at how many. So he's not wrong. So he's just saying in the context. And he doesn't want that to happen to film, which a lot of us don't. So I think people booed us way out of proportion. And it was not what the incident is. Painting it out.

[John Lovett]

To me, I agree with you. And it's. Well, what's interesting about is, to me, the backlash gets a kind of part of the problem because, like, what he's saying is, hey, if you're part of an art, that's like, if you love, if you like, support this because it's good for the world. He's saying, no, I want to make stuff that is just profitable because people want to see it, not because they think they're being good people.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, right.

[John Lovett]

And like, that's true in media too. Like, there's a lot of great media. Like, that's one of the things we try to do at cricket, which is make, like kind of worthy content that we. Content fuck. Make worthy shows and, and tell and conversations that are worthwhile that people check out not because they feel like it makes them good people, but because they just want to. You want to go see something entertaining, like, they want to go see the movie you're making.

[Paul Feig]

That's the thing in our company, in our, our company is just like, make something undeniable. My problem sometimes is with movies that get made trying to win awards, I say, like, make a great movie that entertains people and then the awards come. Bridesmaids got nominated for two Oscars. Who. I got people shitting in the sink and in a. You know, like, that is not. We're not like, oh, we're gonna get an Oscar for this. So, like, entertain first and then, you know, then it comes. What? It comes.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, I think that's right.

[Paul Feig]

Thank you.

[John Lovett]

Last question.

[Monet X Change]

And when you do the Pavarotti movie, you can cast me as Pavari.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, my God, please.

[Monet X Change]

I know I don't look like him, but we can do a lot of makeup and make it look like it.

[Paul Feig]

This is my, my new obsession, by the way.

[John Lovett]

Honestly, that's a good idea.

[Paul Feig]

That's just a good idea.

[John Lovett]

Sometimes you hear a good idea. That's a good idea.

[Paul Feig]

Yeah.

[John Lovett]

So wait, you have Monet, a new. You're doing a stand up tour. Yes. Bad knees. I just assume Once you're over 30, when you walk down the stairs, the last bit right before your foot touches the stair, that's luck. You don't really, you know what I mean? Like, your knee's gonna hurt a little bit on every stair. And that's just what it is to have knees, don't you think?

[Monet X Change]

I do think. I just think as I'm old and as I'm getting older, my body and my joints are just making sounds I did not know that they made. Cause they say the black don't crack when my joints absolutely do. And it's just like, I'm like, Jesus Christ, I'm like, sometimes getting off of my sofa. I'm not kidding. It sounds like there's an active shooter in my home.

[Paul Feig]

First of all, I'm 63. Fuck you guys.

[John Lovett]

Paul, you have a. Paul, you have

[Monet X Change]

a head full of hair.

[Paul Feig]

Okay, Paul.

[John Lovett]

Thank you. I wish. Yeah. The top of my head is, like, 75. Yeah. Well, what do you like about getting older so far? In your 30s? Younger than me, and even still younger than Paul.

[Monet X Change]

I think I do like the wisdom I'm getting. And I also love the amount of. I don't give a fuck. I'm getting to like, little things. I'm like, you know what? If you don't like it, that's not my problem. Like, what other sink can be done in my business? And that has. The older I get, the more I believe that. And I just love being on the side of things. Yeah. In my 20s, I cared so much about everything. Everything.

[Paul Feig]

Me.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Paul Feig]

The worst thing in the world is guys who get older, who try to stay young. And it's like, what the are you doing? You're not fooling anybody. Like, are you wearing a baseball cap and, like, shorts? Like, you're like, in your 50s. You look like a idiot. Like, put on a suit.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Paul Feig]

And be an adult. Adult life is the greatest. Look, we've got martinis. Come on. Who wants to be a kid? I. I hated being a kid.

[John Lovett]

Cheers.

[Monet X Change]

And, you know, I was gonna wear a suit tonight, but I couldn't get up. Clean as ball. Next time. Next time. I over a suit tonight.

[Paul Feig]

You look great. You look great, my friend.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, there's the challenge of. I agree with everything you just said. But then there's also the other side of it, which is remaining curious and having a plastic and supple mind. That's a challenge, which is not being young, but it's connected to being young.

[Paul Feig]

No, here's the thing. If you start to think old and you start to go like, I hate all this new stuff. I hate, like, how many old people, you know, like, oh, the music today is terrible. It's like, no, like, off it. The music day is good. It's just. You don't know it. Like, it grow old gracefully. Be. Don't try to be like, I'm hipster, but at the same time, like, kind of go like, no, I'm. Everything that people are doing now is vital. The way that stuff that when I was coming up was vital. Don't be old, you know, don't be old in your brain.

[Monet X Change]

Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more Of Love it or leave it Coming up.

[John Lovett]

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[Monet X Change]

Folks love zbiotics. Trying never to have a drink without it.

[John Lovett]

Yeah, it's always. We had to be brought on the road. We were in Australia.

[Monet X Change]

Sure did.

[John Lovett]

It was great. It was a boon. March is a marathon of social events.

[Paul Feig]

It is.

[John Lovett]

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[Paul Feig]

get rid of the worst of the

[John Lovett]

worst, then they have absolute immunity and they've been told that Nothing they do

[Paul Feig]

will they ever be held accountable for.

[John Lovett]

On my show, Runaway country, we go where the headlines hit home. From communities under threat to the people fighting to be heard. New episodes of Runaway country drop every Thursday. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube with VRBoCare. Help is always ready before, during, and after your stay. We've planned for the plot twists, so support is always available because a great trip starts with peace of mind. So here's the deal that I'm striking because my fiance is younger than me and younger than Monet, just to give you a sense.

[Paul Feig]

Definitely that young me.

[John Lovett]

Much younger than Paul.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, man.

[John Lovett]

Because I'm younger than Paul and Monet's younger than me. But I'm gonna try to remain curious and open. But I will just hand them my phone and just be like, I can't fix Instagram. Can you just do my Instagram? And that's just gonna be the deal I make.

[Paul Feig]

There's no shame in that.

[John Lovett]

There's no shame in that.

[Monet X Change]

That's great.

[John Lovett]

And speaking of not having any shame, it's time for a special segment we're calling I Don't Care. I love it. I Don't Care. I love it. Here's how it works. We'll take turns defending the people, places, things, and haircuts that we refuse to feel guilty about loving. A guilty pleasure, as it were. First up, Paul.

[Paul Feig]

Yes.

[John Lovett]

What's something that you don't care if people don't like that you like?

[Paul Feig]

I loved the 2024 campaign with the minute that Biden dropped out. I'm not anti Biden. I loved when Kamala came in. And let me tell you why. Because there was three months of this beautiful moment where our side was going, usa, usa. Which I think is the most. When the right does it, it's the most aggressive, jingoistic bullshit. I hate it. But when our side did it, I was like, we all loved America. We all. For that three months, we all loved America. And then it went the shit. But, like, you know, but, like, that was. I thought it was beautiful. I was so happy. I was so proud to be an American during that.

[John Lovett]

Yeah. Cause it was like. It was like we had. It was like we had one ayatollah and was very old. We got rid of that ayatollah, and then we had a new generation of ayatollah with all the same policies. I agree. I. I'm really sorry I said that. I had several martinis, but I agree with you. Nationalism is just patriotism for and it's nice to have real patriotism. And we should bring it back and we should own patriotism because the flag is our flag. They didn't. They don't own the flag just because they put it on their back trucks.

[Paul Feig]

You can make it ugly or you can make it like.

[John Lovett]

I agree with that. It's a really good point, Monet. What is something? What is something you don't care that you love? That people don't love?

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[John Lovett]

I love

[Monet X Change]

selfie sticks. They had a moment. They were so useful. You know that thing where you try to take a picture in a group and they're like, my arms are long enough.

[John Lovett]

Can you do it?

[Monet X Change]

No, bitch. I don't want to do it. Okay. I don't want to have my arms over the whole group. A selfie stick takes out all the pressure for everyone. You put your little phone on the little stick, extend it. I had one that had a little automatic recliner on it. I was pressing my button and go. And we take our picture. It was great. And then somewhere along the line, we all got shamed for our selfie sticks. I had to burn mine like I burned my bra. And it was just the worst, so. And now people are ashamed to use selfie sticks. And I think we should use them again.

[John Lovett]

You're here. I think that's a really good point. Thank you. I genuinely do. I haven't thought about it. I'm hearing this for the first time. You're right. And I'll tell you something else. I think the reason there was a backlash is because girls like them.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you think?

[John Lovett]

Yeah. Yes.

[Paul Feig]

Is misogyny. Yes.

[John Lovett]

Yes. The ugly head of misogyny pops up its head yet again.

[Monet X Change]

There you go with the selfie stick.

[John Lovett]

With the fucking selfie stick. Next time we have a woman on the show. Whenever that is, I'll ask

[Paul Feig]

someday.

[John Lovett]

All right, listen, here's my pitch. Blind dates, old fashioned style, okay? You have two friends. You're like, you know what? You're at a lunch or a dinner, or you're seeing an old friend, you're like, oh, they're single, they're single. I have a friend who's single. They're both very good looking, or the same level of good looking. I think they'd be good for each other. No longer are we gonna say, here's who it is. Go look them up on Instagram. Here's who they are. Here's a picture that I have from my phone. No. You are going to say to your friends, when are you free? We'll Set you up, Bring a red fucking rose with you because you're meeting a stranger, you're going to have no information. All you'll know is that people that love you think maybe. And you will go through the old fashioned experience without the algorithm, without the. Without the pictures on the Internet. Learning about a person from square one, if you were meant to be. Seeing the picture before, wouldn't make it more likely. And if you're not meant to be, you had an interesting conversation, but I think we should bring the true blind. Blind date back. Bring it back. That's my pitch. That is our way to strike a blow against the machine. Okay. Thank you.

[Paul Feig]

Love it.

[John Lovett]

You know what?

[Monet X Change]

And don't go for dinner on a first date. That's serious killer shit like that. You are locking yourself into upwards of $65 and maybe an hour and a half with someone that you are not gonna enjoy. Go for coffee, go for an ice cream. That's max 15, 20 minutes and then you can leave and then decide what you wanna do.

[John Lovett]

So I'll concede that I was single in my twenties and then I was briefly single again in my forties, but my move was. This is a drink. Do you mind if I order dinner? It's time for second thoughts. This is the part of the show where we kind of figure out if I made a mistake. All right. All right, first up, let's see. Oh, they aren't going to know about that.

[Paul Feig]

Would you like another martini, John?

[John Lovett]

Okay. The producer suggests that I should regret saying that the swastika was a quote, great design, end quote. I don't regret that. I don't regret that.

[Paul Feig]

How could that go bad in terms of pure.

[John Lovett]

Look, here's the thing. Here's the thing. In terms of earned media, right? Like the swastika, they never did a single political ad in the us. We all know it. Like they got that brand out there. They got it out there and I

[Monet X Change]

will say it did belong to someone else. Like that was true. It did belong to another. And.

[John Lovett]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And it was stolen and co opted by these people.

[John Lovett]

So now, honestly, that's the worst thing they ever did.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. As you sip your martini.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, my God.

[John Lovett]

Genuinely a little bit drunk. All right. It says your quote, the Shining's pretty good. I don't regret saying that. It is pretty good. Let's see. Paul's intro was a mess. I don't regret it. It was kind of fun. We're gonna leave it in.

[Paul Feig]

I think I like it. I like it.

[John Lovett]

Didn't ask Monet for a little opera.

[Paul Feig]

Oh, I wanted to do that, but I. I didn't want to put you on the spot.

[John Lovett]

Really? Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. And I have.

[Paul Feig]

You need to stand for this or.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'll do it sitting.

[Paul Feig]

I like sitting Opera.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. A queen likes to sit when she sings.

[Paul Feig]

There we go.

[John Lovett]

Beautiful.

[Paul Feig]

Come on.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, thank you. I haven't warmed up. I'm drinking only for Paul and John.

[Paul Feig]

Wow.

[John Lovett]

And my final second thought, I took Paul's nice comment about Kamala and brought ayatollahs into it. And that is our show. Thank you to Bob Feig and Monet X Change. Check out Monet's Stand Up Tour. Housemaids is available now. We'll see you next week at the UCB Theater. Next week we're at the UCB. There are 233 days until the midterms. Have a great night and have a great weekend.

[Paul Feig]

Yes.

[John Lovett]

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[Monet X Change]

Just love it or leave it.

[John Lovett]

Quick question. Are you politically engaged and spiritually exhausted

[Paul Feig]

if you said yes to both. Welcome home.

[John Lovett]

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[Paul Feig]

who care about democracy, culture, and not

[John Lovett]

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