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The odds have never been better that a Democrat will represent Colorado’s 5th District in U.S. Congress next year. Meet the woman who may just send Jeff Crank packing, Jessica Killin. Jessica is one of a field of 5 vying for the Democratic Party nomination to represent Colorado Springs and environs. Get to know Jessica as we ask her about her history in Colorado Springs, her military experience, her experience at our nation’s capitol, and what she thinks Congress can do during the last two years of the Trump administration. Also vying for the CD5 nomination are Joe Reagan, Zuri Horowitz, and Justin Lord.We also get an update from Pikes Peak Bulletin’s Heila Ershadi on the archives of the defunct Colorado Springs Independent. Dirk Hobbs of Colorado Media Group has possession of the data, but is finding it very challenging to restore online access to this treasure trove of over twenty years of community history. Heila also updates the saga of the Moreno and Cascade Urban Renewal Plan, recently approved despite efforts of the Mill Street Community Benefits All Coalition to hold out for a community benefit plan with Norwood Development Group.Other Studio 809 podcasts featuring CD5 congressional candidates:Two Women, One Primary, Big Ideas – Jessica Killin and Zuri Horowitz on episode 65 of Elevating Pikes Peak Women: https://studio809podcasts.com/two-women-one-primary/Running for Congress with Joe Reagan - episode 24 of Badly Needed & Long Overdue: https://studio809podcasts.com/24-joe-reagan-for-congress/People Centered Springs with Zuri Horowitz – episode 36 of Loving the Springs: https://studio809podcasts.com/people-centered-zuri/ LINKS:Jessica Killin campaign: https://www.killinforcolorado.com/Indy archives (very limited, 2023 so far): https://socoinsider.com/archives/‘A Complete Mess’: Indy Archive Restoration Proves Difficult: https://pikespeakbulletin.org/news/a-complete-mess-indy-archive-restoration-proves-difficult/Over Objections from Neighborhood Group, City Council Approves Public Money for Hotel Project: https://pikespeakbulletin.org/news/over-objections-from-neighborhood-group-city-council-approves-public-money-for-hotel-project/Pikes Peak Bulletin: https://pikespeakbulletin.org/ MENTIONED:Colorado Congressional District 5El Paso County Democratic PartyJeff CrankUNCLahara, ColoradoCarver ElementarySabin Junior HighPikes Peak ElementaryFalcon Middle SchoolStetson HillsHorizon Middle SchoolFalcon High SchoolUnited States Air Force AcademyFort CarsonPeterson FieldCU BoulderArmy ROTCUniversity of TampaSMUOperation Joint Endeavor / Operation Joint GuardNATOPolandUkraine Xi JinpingColorado Springs AirportCostcoPikes PeakPikes Peak Housing NetworkColorado Springs Chamber & EDCDirk HobbsColorado Media GroupSoCo InsiderFBITrump Epstein FilesColorado Springs Pioneers MuseumPikes Peak Library DistrictThe Poynter InstituteKnight FoundationPam ZubeckCorey HutchinsInside the News in ColoradoColorado CollegeThe Washington PostThe New York TimesColorado Springs GazetteMoreno and Cascade Urban Renewal PlanNorwood Development GroupMill Street Community Benefits All CoalitionNancy HenjumKimberly GoldDave DonelsonMax KronstadtUnion Printers HomeLoving the Springs celebrates the best of Colorado Springs and elevates the rest.Plug into what’s happening in the Pikes Peak region, learn about awesome people, places and happenings, and explore opportunities to make life here even better. Longtime Springs booster Carrie Simison co-hosts with local gadflies Al Brody and Dave Gardner. All three love our two springs – Colorado and Manitou, so they give them the mic in this twice-monthly podcast. Nothing’s off the table – recreation, the arts, government, business, politics – if it touches your life, they’ll talk about it. We’ll invite the movers and shakers, conspiracy theorists, NIMBYs, YIMBYs, yaysayers and naysayers to join them.Listen wherever you get your podcasts, and give us feedback and suggestions via comments at https://studio809podcasts.com/loving-the-springs or lovingthespringspodcast at gmail.com

We get important perspective on the value and meaning of Black History Month from a remarkable young Black man who lives and breathes civic engagement. Chauncy Johnson has worked in the Colorado State Capitol, pitched in on important initiatives, and run for Colorado Springs City Council in 2025. He is currently seeking the Democratic Party nomination for Colorado State Representative in House District 17.Pikes Peak Bulletin Managing Editor Heila Ershadi also updates us on the Mill Street Community Benefits All Coalition’s efforts to get a community benefit agreement related to construction of a luxury Catbird Hotel south of downtown Colorado Springs.LINKS:Chauncy Johnson for HD17: https://chauncyjohnsonforhd17.com/$10.3 Million Subsidy for Luxury Hotel Must Come With Community Benefits Agreement, Neighborhood Coalition Says: https://pikespeakbulletin.org/news/10-3-million-subsidy-for-luxury-hotel-must-come-with-community-benefits-agreement-neighborhood-coalition-says/Church’s Pride Banner Removed. Again.: https://pikespeakbulletin.org/news/churchs-pride-banner-removed-again/Pikes Peak Bulletin Listening Tour: https://www.facebook.com/events/2456923024770015 MENTIONED:Leah WithrowColorado Springs Pioneers MuseumConejos NeighborhoodWilliam Jackson PalmerThe Tuskegee AirmenDonald TrumpRep. LaMonica McIverDon LemonElijah McClainBreonna TaylorGeorge FloydThe Olympic GamesTa-Nehisi CoatesLaila EdwardsJuneteenthFiestas PatriasColorado Springs Labor Day Lift OffOneBodyENTCitadel MallNorris Penrose Event CenterAmerica the Beautiful ParkU.S. Olympic and Paralympic MuseumNorwood Development GroupMill Street Community Benefits All CoalitionManitou Art CenterFreedom to Thrive: The American Experience in Colorado SpringsLoving the Springs celebrates the best of Colorado Springs and elevates the rest.Plug into what’s happening in the Pikes Peak region, learn about awesome people, places and happenings, and explore opportunities to make life here even better. Longtime Springs booster Carrie Simison co-hosts with local gadflies Al Brody and Dave Gardner. All three love our two springs – Colorado and Manitou, so they give them the mic in this twice-monthly podcast. Nothing’s off the table – recreation, the arts, government, business, politics – if it touches your life, they’ll talk about it. We’ll invite the movers and shakers, conspiracy theorists, NIMBYs, YIMBYs, yaysayers and naysayers to join them.Listen wherever you get your podcasts, and give us feedback and suggestions via comments at https://studio809podcasts.com/loving-the-springs or lovingthespringspodcast at gmail.com

Colorado Springs City Councilor Gold was reprimanded recently, for comments “in violation of the rules and procedures of City Council,” when in fact her comments were an example of the civility and decorum council rules strive to achieve. We share what went down in the January 13, 2026 Colorado Springs City Council meeting – in which faith leaders made comments about Martin Luther King Jr. Day which incited City Councilor Dave Donelson to walk out, refusing to participate in a photograph commemorating the mayor and council’s proclamation. Councilor Kimberly Gold reminded the room that, “Doctor MLK was a fiery person. He had to be in order to create change. And we need that same fiery spirit today and beyond to create the continued change that we need in our country.”At its next public meeting, City Council heard from several citizens who praised Gold’s behavior and comments. In this episode we speak with Kimberly Gold to get her take, and we discuss the incident, the reprimand, and subsequent events with Pikes Peak Bulletin Managing Editor Heila Ershadi.LINKS:Pikes Peak Bulletin Coverage:Councilmember Gold Reprimanded for MLK Proclamation Remarks:https://pikespeakbulletin.org/news/councilmember-gold-reprimanded-for-mlk-proclamation-remarks/Juicy Public Comments on No Black History Month Proclamation, Gold Reprimand, ICE:https://pikespeakbulletin.org/news/juicy-public-comments-on-no-black-history-month-proclamation-gold-reprimand-ice/Discover Downtown Pass: https://downtowncs.com/pass2026 Winter Olympic & Paralympic Celebration: https://usopm.org/gamesexperience/Nike Team USA Collection: https://www.nike.com/w/medal-stand-collection-7q64tDowntown Colorado Springs on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/downtown_cs/Downtown Colorado Springs on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DowntownColoradoSpringsMENTIONED:City Councilor Kimberly GoldCity Council President Lynette Crow-IversonCity Councilor Dave DonelsonRev. Josh RumpleFirst Congregational ChurchRev. Candace WoodsSeth Palmer HarrisLeague of American BicyclistsBicycle Colorado SpringsPikeRide2026 Winter OlympicsU.S. Olympic & Paralympic MuseumU.S. Olympic pommel horse champion Stephen NedoroscikGalentine’s DayGood IntentionsNovis Mortem CollectivePainting With a TwistComfort & Joy Cat CaféColorado Springs Fine Arts CenterThe Local MotiveLoving the Springs celebrates the best of Colorado Springs and elevates the rest.Plug into what’s happening in the Pikes Peak region, learn about awesome people, places and happenings, and explore opportunities to make life here even better. Longtime Springs booster Carrie Simison co-hosts with local gadflies Al Brody and Dave Gardner. All three love our two springs – Colorado and Manitou, so they give them the mic in this twice-monthly podcast. Nothing’s off the table – recreation, the arts, government, business, politics – if it touches your life, they’ll talk about it. We’ll invite the movers and shakers, conspiracy theorists, NIMBYs, YIMBYs, yaysayers and naysayers to join them.Listen wherever you get your podcasts, and give us feedback and suggestions via comments at https://studio809podcasts.com/loving-the-springs or lovingthespringspodcast at gmail.com

Our beloved Trails and Open Space Coalition is sure to be up to something you didn’t already know. Executive Director Glenn Carlson shares his vision, what TOSC has been up to since he took the reins, and exciting news about a new web tool that will help us all enjoy our trails, parks and open spaces that much more.We also get tips for trail etiquette when mud is the order of the day. Great news that TOSC is looking into bringing Starlight Spectacular back to life – but reimagined. Plus, Heila Ershadi, managing editor of the Pikes Peak Bulletin, shares an interesting story about a proposed new luxury hotel and what the Mill Street neighborhood is trying to do to avoid the gentrification shuffle.LINKS:Trails and Open Space Coalition (TOSC): https://trailsandopenspaces.org/Colorado Springs Parks Assessment and Master Plan: https://coloradosprings.gov/ParkSystemMasterPlanDowntown neighborhood seeks dialogue with Norwood Development – Pikes Peak Bulletin story: https://pikespeakbulletin.org/news/downtown-neighborhood-seeks-dialogue-with-norwood-development/ MENTIONED:Susan DaviesMesa Ridge High SchoolWidefieldColorado CollegeArrow ElectronicsRunning for Colorado Springs City CouncilThe Legacy LoopAllen BeauchampBotanic gardenDenver Botanic GardenColorado Springs Pioneers MuseumGarden of the Gods FoundationGarden of the Gods Dog ParkPikes PeakBlodgett Open SpacePikeview QuarryTimberline TrailCraftLoving the Springs celebrates the best of Colorado Springs and elevates the rest.Plug into what’s happening in the Pikes Peak region, learn about awesome people, places and happenings, and explore opportunities to make life here even better. Longtime Springs booster Carrie Simison co-hosts with local gadflies Al Brody and Dave Gardner. All three love our two springs – Colorado and Manitou, so they give them the mic in this twice-monthly podcast. Nothing’s off the table – recreation, the arts, government, business, politics – if it touches your life, they’ll talk about it. We’ll invite the movers and shakers, conspiracy theorists, NIMBYs, YIMBYs, yaysayers and naysayers to join them.Listen wherever you get your podcasts, and give us feedback and suggestions via comments at https://studio809podcasts.com/loving-the-springs or lovingthespringspodcast at gmail.com

Spoken word artist, idealist, and entrepreneurial cheerleader Judy Pearring shares some of her poetry and explains the vibe we love at The Next Us. The Next Us is home to Studio 809 Podcasts’ community podcast studio, as well as a family of extraordinary entrepreneurs. “We’re all the weirdos,” she tells us, and she means it with affection and respect. We also find out Carrie is a “recovering poet,” and Al wants to take one of Judy’s poems to Burning Man.LINKS:The Next Us: https://thenextus.spaces.nexudus.comClean & Safe Pilot Program - episode 23 of a Place for everyone: https://studio809podcasts.com/clean-and-safe/Studio 809 Podcasts: https://studio809podcasts.com/Get Involved. Get Engaged. - Episode 61 of Elevating Pikes Peak Women: https://studio809podcasts.com/get-involved-get-engaged/ MENTIONED:One Million CupsFirst FridaysAITEDxOpen Mic Night at Rico’sDowntown Colorado SpringsSara Vaas and Dizzie Charlie’s Live JazzAcacia Park Bandshell Renovation ProjectEleven Mile CanyonThe “Manitou River”The Clean & Safe ProgramHomeward Pikes PeakPat RigdonBeth RoalstadMary Lou MakepeaceMelissa MartsBrenda MorrisonMarcy MorrisonBurning ManCottonwood Center for the ArtsLoving the Springs celebrates the best of Colorado Springs and elevates the rest.Plug into what’s happening in the Pikes Peak region, learn about awesome people, places and happenings, and explore opportunities to make life here even better. Longtime Springs booster Carrie Simison co-hosts with local gadflies Al Brody and Dave Gardner. All three love our two springs – Colorado and Manitou, so they give them the mic in this twice-monthly podcast. Nothing’s off the table – recreation, the arts, government, business, politics – if it touches your life, they’ll talk about it. We’ll invite the movers and shakers, conspiracy theorists, NIMBYs, YIMBYs, yaysayers and naysayers to join them.Listen wherever you get your podcasts, and give us feedback and suggestions via comments at https://studio809podcasts.com/loving-the-springs or lovingthespringspodcast at gmail.com

This active young citizen is leading People Centered Colorado Springs, advocating for safer streets, and in her spare time running for Congress. Zuri Horowitz hopes to be chosen as the Democratic Party’s candidate for U.S. Representative in Colorado Congressional District 5. She wears her values on her sleeve, and has a very clearly delineated platform. She is a local champion for safer streets – designed for pedestrians, bicyclists and transit riders as much as for motor vehicles. She is also an advocate for affordable housing. She has served on the Colorado Springs Citizens Transportation Advisory Board since 2022. Her platform includes universal healthcare, affordable child care, and getting corporate money out of politics.LINKS:People Centered Colorado Springs: https://www.peoplecenteredcos.org/COS Cars Kill on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coscarskill/Beautiful Colorado Springs on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beautifulcoloradosprings/Zuri Horowitz for U.S. Congress: https://www.zuriforcd5.com/Updating the Downtown Master Plan - episode 16 of Loving the Springs with Chelsea Gondeck: https://studio809podcasts.com/updating-downtown-plan/MENTIONED:4H ClubWaymoDowntown Colorado SpringsChelsea GondeckElevate Downtown planNew CSPD Mobile Speed Safety CamerasLoving the Springs celebrates the best of Colorado Springs and elevates the rest.Plug into what’s happening in the Pikes Peak region, learn about awesome people, places and happenings, and explore opportunities to make life here even better. Longtime Springs booster Carrie Simison co-hosts with local gadflies Al Brody and Dave Gardner. All three love our two springs – Colorado and Manitou, so they give them the mic in this twice-monthly podcast. Nothing’s off the table – recreation, the arts, government, business, politics – if it touches your life, they’ll talk about it. We’ll invite the movers and shakers, conspiracy theorists, NIMBYs, YIMBYs, yaysayers and naysayers to join them.Listen wherever you get your podcasts, and give us feedback and suggestions via comments at https://studio809podcasts.com/loving-the-springs or lovingthespringspodcast at gmail.com

Carrie and Kelsee from the Downtown Partnership talk with Renee Behr from Behr and Behr Real Estate Team about holiday traditions in Downtown Colorado Springs - from ice-skating and parades, to shopping and experiences. If you’re still looking for the perfect holiday way to engage with friends and family for the holidays, you’re gonna want to give this special episode a listen. We talk holiday season — gift giving and beyond!LINKS:Skate in the Park: https://downtowncs.com/skateHoliday Coupon Book: https://downtowncs.com/couponBehr and Behr Team: https://behrandbehr.comGood Intentions: https://www.goodintentionscos.com MENTIONED:Cronk Art & CuriositiesToodles TearoomPikeRideBristol Brewing CompanyAdventures Out West - Cozy Coach and the Holly, Jolly, Christmas TrolleySparrow Hawk Gourmet CookwareThe Mining ExchangeThe Platinum Group, RealtorsAcacia ParkGreen Mtn HavenPikes Peak CenterColorado Springs Children’s ChoralePikes Peak Lemonade – Cocoa BarSolar Roast CoffeeStory CoffeeBloom Ultra LoungeRM Soap MarketTerra VerdeSavory SpiceJax Fish House & Oyster BarYobel Loving the Springs celebrates the best of Colorado Springs and elevates the rest.Plug into what’s happening in the Pikes Peak region, learn about awesome people, places and happenings, and explore opportunities to make life here even better. Longtime Springs booster Carrie Simison co-hosts with local gadflies Al Brody and Dave Gardner. All three love our two springs – Colorado and Manitou, so they give them the mic in this twice-monthly podcast. Nothing’s off the table – recreation, the arts, government, business, politics – if it touches your life, they’ll talk about it. We’ll invite the movers and shakers, conspiracy theorists, NIMBYs, YIMBYs, yaysayers and naysayers to join them.Listen wherever you get your podcasts, and give us feedback and suggestions via comments at https://studio809podcasts.com/loving-the-springs or lovingthespringspodcast at gmail.com

Cast member and UCCS theatre professor Birgitta DePree and Ent Center for the Arts Executive Director David Siegel fill us in on the Ent Center, Theatreworks, and an exciting 50th season of professional theatre. The Importance of Being Earnest opens in a few days. It’s “a trivial comedy for serious people.” David and Birgitta give us all the colorful details.We also chat briefly about:Our first live, on-location episode (Brit Pub Grand Opening, episode 31)Bicycle speed limit signs going up on area trailsColorado Springs Vibes played their last seasonNew offices for Cultural Office of the Pikes Peak Region (COPPR)A noteworthy new episode of Pedal the Springs podcast LINKS: Ent Center for the Artshttps://entarts.org Brit Pub Grand Opening, episode 31 of Loving the Springshttps://studio809podcasts.com/brit-pub/ Westside Bicycle Service – episode 36 of Pedal the Springs podcasthttps://studio809podcasts.com/westside-bicycle-service/ MENTIONED:Oscar WildeUCCSEnt Center for the ArtsThe Next UsTheatreworksBee Vradenburg FoundationColorado Springs Parks, Recreation and Cultural ServicesCultural Office of the Pikes Peak Region (COPPR)Green Box Arts FestivalGrass It UpMango fan DjangoJeremy Facknitz BandAuric GalleryChriz Alvarez Gallery & Art StudioThe Sluice in Old Colorado CityCottonwood Center for the ArtsMillibo Art TheatreLARTLulu’sPoor Richard’sGalleries of Contemporary ArtCabaretThe Importance of Being EarnestRomeo and JulietThe GarbologistsMax ShulmanKathleen Fox CollinsManitou SpringsBrit PubWeidner FieldDowntown Colorado SpringsExperience at Epicenter ApartmentsIvywild SchoolThe Principal’s OfficeBuffalo Lodge Bicycle ResortPedal the Springs podcastMedicine Wheel Trail AdvocatesCOS RacingTerry GrossLoving the Springs celebrates the best of Colorado Springs and elevates the rest.Plug into what’s happening in the Pikes Peak region, learn about awesome people, places and happenings, and explore opportunities to make life here even better. Longtime Springs booster Carrie Simison co-hosts with local gadflies Al Brody and Dave Gardner. All three love our two springs – Colorado and Manitou, so they give them the mic in this twice-monthly podcast. Nothing’s off the table – recreation, the arts, government, business, politics – if it touches your life, they’ll talk about it. We’ll invite the movers and shakers, conspiracy theorists, NIMBYs, YIMBYs, yaysayers and naysayers to join them.Listen wherever you get your podcasts, and give us feedback and suggestions via comments at https://studio809podcasts.com/loving-the-springs or lovingthespringspodcast at gmail.com

Bundle up and follow the twinkle of Downtown’s lights where shop windows glow, and every block feels like a snow globe come to life. Even big downtown fans like us were amazed at the vast array of events, experiences and shopping options revealed in this conversation – as Kelsee Swenn, Marketing Manager for the Downtown Partnership and shop owner of Good Intentions, joined Carrie in the studio for a special Downtown holiday episode. More than 85 charming boutiques, galleries, and specialty shops offer treasures big and small: cozy sweaters, clever gifts, unique jewelry, artful keepsakes, and perfect stocking stuffers. Looking for memory-making experiences? Come down for the holiday parade, character stroll, festive events and even outdoor ice skating. And, when it’s time to warm up, choose from more than 130 spots to dine, drink, and celebrate, from festive cocktail lounges to cozy coffee shops. Carrie advises us to create our traditions in Downtown Colorado Springs.LINKS:Downtown Colorado Springs: http://downtowncs.com/ MENTIONED:Festival of Lights ParadeTerra VerdeSparrowHawkMountain Standard GoodsEclecticoLittle Richard’s Toy StoreSavory Spice ShopCacao ChemistryAbbey MoboladeAuric GalleryVintage RelicsYobelPure EleganceOak and AxeThe Trolley BlockAshley’s AtticPaint Splatter RoomGood IntentionsComfort and Joy Cat CaféTeller County Animal RescueNovis Mortem CollectiveToodles Tea RoomProvision BakeryThird Wave ChocolateChocolate Café on Friday NightsPikes Peak CenterShop Local, Win Local (SLWL)Bank of ColoradoWarm lemonade at Pikes Peak LemonadeSkate in the Park Loving the Springs celebrates the best of Colorado Springs and elevates the rest.Plug into what’s happening in the Pikes Peak region, learn about awesome people, places and happenings, and explore opportunities to make life here even better. Longtime Springs booster Carrie Simison co-hosts with local gadflies Al Brody and Dave Gardner. All three love our two springs – Colorado and Manitou, so they give them the mic in this twice-monthly podcast. Nothing’s off the table – recreation, the arts, government, business, politics – if it touches your life, they’ll talk about it. We’ll invite the movers and shakers, conspiracy theorists, NIMBYs, YIMBYs, yaysayers and naysayers to join them.Listen wherever you get your podcasts, and give us feedback and suggestions via comments at https://studio809podcasts.com/loving-the-springs or lovingthespringspodcast at gmail.com

Sure, PikeRide puts ebikes you can borrow at over 90 rental hubs throughout central Colorado Springs and Manitou, but did you know they also have programs to make it affordable for low-income residents to get to work? This treasured community nonprofit is on a mission to close the transportation gap. Learn all about PikeRide as we visit with Executive Director Tara McCarthy.More than a bikeshare program, PikeRide is a catalyst for change. They provide low-cost, sustainable transportation that empowers people to show up for job interviews, keep steady employment, maintain housing, and access vital services like healthcare and education. They also help reduce traffic, improve air quality, and foster community connections through access to places like libraries, community centers, and local events. Right now, during the annual Give campaign, it’s an especially great time to make a donation to PikeRide: https://www.pikeride.org/giveAnd…in this episode, Carrie offers to take anyone on a PikeRide, anytime. Listen to get the tea.LINKS:PikeRide: https://www.pikeride.org/ MENTIONED:Garden of the GodsColorado CollegeTrader Joe’sUCCSManitou SpringsOld Colorado CityThe ExchangeUniversity VillageThe “ebike smile”Taylor SwiftDowntown Colorado SpringsKRCCWill ToorColorado Energy Office Loving the Springs celebrates the best of Colorado Springs and elevates the rest.Plug into what’s happening in the Pikes Peak region, learn about awesome people, places and happenings, and explore opportunities to make life here even better. Longtime Springs booster Carrie Simison co-hosts with local gadflies Al Brody and Dave Gardner. All three love our two springs – Colorado and Manitou, so they give them the mic in this twice-monthly podcast. Nothing’s off the table – recreation, the arts, government, business, politics – if it touches your life, they’ll talk about it. We’ll invite the movers and shakers, conspiracy theorists, NIMBYs, YIMBYs, yaysayers and naysayers to join them.Listen wherever you get your podcasts, and give us feedback and suggestions via comments at https://studio809podcasts.com/loving-the-springs or lovingthespringspodcast at gmail.com