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Podcast: LSE Public Lectures and Events
Episode: Israel and the Palestinians: Domestic Developments and Prospects for Talks
Date: June 13, 2007
Speakers: Khalil Shikaki, Shai Feldman
Host: LSE Film and Audio Team

Main Theme

This episode provides an in-depth analysis of how domestic political developments within both Palestinian and Israeli societies impact the prospects for renewed peace talks. Featuring two leading experts, Khalil Shikaki and Shai Feldman, the discussion examines the structural, political, and ideological factors on both sides that constrain or enable potential progress, with special emphasis on the implications for negotiations, state-building, and policy options moving forward. The conversation is timely, set against the backdrop of escalating violence in Gaza.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Palestinian Domestic Developments & Their Implications for Peacemaking

• Speaker: Khalil Shikaki
• Timestamps: [00:00] – [35:00]

A. Characteristics of the Palestinian Political System

• Post-Arafat era: Political system became briefly more inclusive but soon more divisive and dysfunctional ([01:25]).
• Intensified dysfunction following the electoral victory of Hamas; government struggles to provide basic services, e.g. paying 160,000 public sector salaries ([02:00]).
• Key issues: Threats to national unity, weakened public institutions, and inability to offer a credible negotiating partner to Israel.

B. Enduring Balance of Power

• The core conditions that led to Hamas’s 2006 electoral victory are unchanged ([05:00]):
  • Belief that “violence pays” among many Palestinians.
  • Preference for “clean government” (with Hamas perceived as less corrupt than Fatah).
  • Support for traditional values over liberal or secular ones.

C. Institutional Weakness

• Security sector fragmented, led by entrenched Fatah leaders ([09:00]).
• Chain of command broken; constitutional disputes over roles of parliament, presidency, government ([10:00]).

D. Leadership Void

• Abu Mazen (Mahmoud Abbas) characterized as a weak, reactive leader unable to fill Arafat’s shoes.
• Similar lack of decisive leadership in Haniyeh (Hamas prime minister) ([11:00]).

E. Factors Contributing to the Crisis

• Failure of state-building and democracy by the Palestinian Authority since Oslo.
• Collapse of the peace process and disillusionment with diplomacy after Camp David 2000; growing faith in violence post-Gaza disengagement ([13:50]).
• Regional influences: Iraq War (“small insurgency can defeat a superpower”), rise of Islamists, Hezbollah’s perceived victory, and the potential for Hamas to align strategically with Iran if isolated ([15:25]).

F. Ramifications for the Peace Process

• Lack of capable Palestinian “partner” from the Israeli point of view ([18:37]).
• Public skepticism about the effectiveness of diplomacy; pessimism about the future ([18:50]).
• Willingness to compromise remains surprisingly robust in polling, even among Hamas supporters ([18:59]).
• Weak institutions and leadership make progress on core issues (refugees, Jerusalem) improbable.

Notable Quote:
"Current Palestinian domestic political conditions are such that they constrain, to a large extent, constrain Israeli Palestinian relations and make it impossible to move forward with the peace process... But I do not believe it is inevitable that this situation will continue to deteriorate."
— Khalil Shikaki [02:12]

2. Israeli Domestic Developments & Their Implications for Peacemaking

• Speaker: Shai Feldman
• Timestamps: [35:14] – [62:53]

A. Analytical Framework

• Applies Kenneth Waltz’s “levels of analysis” to understand how domestic (second image), leadership (first image), and international (third image) factors interact ([36:00]).

B. Israeli Desire for Disengagement

• Majority view among Israelis: imperative to end control (occupation) of West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem—driven by demographic anxieties ([39:37]).
  • “The Palestinian state has almost become now a prerequisite to having a Jewish state.”

C. Unilateralism Discredited

• Negative lessons drawn from unilateral withdrawals in Lebanon (rise of Hezbollah) and Gaza (Qassam rocket attacks).
  • New consensus: Future steps must be negotiated, not unilateral ([44:25]).

D. Absence of a Palestinian Partner

• Fragmentation and weak leadership on the Palestinian side make Israelis doubt any counterpart can deliver on agreements.
• Militant minorities control the Palestinian agenda, stoking violence and undermining moderates ([49:15]).

E. Alternative Peace Tracks

• With pessimism about Palestinian negotiations, interest grows in a possible deal with Syria—because Syria offers a clear, stable “address” ([55:00]).

F. Domestic Weakness in Israel

• Israeli political system weakened post-2006 Lebanon War; lack of leadership and public confidence ([57:10]).
• New Labor party leadership may strengthen the coalition, especially on security ([58:50]).

G. Pathways Forward

• Comprehensive or purely security-based deals are unrealistic under current conditions ([61:00]).
• Incremental, intermediary steps are most feasible:
  • Large-scale withdrawal proposals (Olmert's 90% West Bank withdrawal)
  • Ceasefire/armistice (Islamic hudna concept)
  • Palestinian state with provisional borders (Roadmap phase 2)
  • The Arab Initiative (regional integration for Israel in exchange for withdrawal)

Notable Quote:
"The debate is not about whether Israel should end its control over the West Bank. ... The debate has turned into the issue of how and under what conditions can Israel afford to end its control."
— Shai Feldman [41:00]

3. Options to Change Palestinian Domestic Conditions

• Speaker: Khalil Shikaki
• Timestamps: [21:10] – [34:56]

A. Four Approaches:

1. Isolate Hamas (has failed—Hamas has neither changed nor collapsed)
2. Eliminate Hamas militarily (impractical and disastrous)
3. Hold new elections (unlikely to change the balance of power without altering underlying conditions)
4. Engage Hamas via a broad power-sharing coalition (national unity government, e.g. Mecca Agreement)

B. Potential for Hamas Moderation

• Shikaki argues Hamas may moderate further if engaged (citing Muslim Brotherhood legacy and a more pragmatic leadership) ([32:00]).
• Cites: In March survey, over 50% of Hamas supporters backed a two-state solution with recognition of Israel ([34:20]).

C. Limits to Moderation

• Hardliner constituency (20–25%) and entrenched value systems restrict pace and extent of change, but incremental moderation is still expected.

Notable Quote:
"Given time, engaging them would encourage the more moderates within Hamas to move even further than they have gone so far. Without engaging them, it will take much longer."
— Khalil Shikaki [34:40]

4. Q&A Highlights

• Timestamps: [64:11] – [85:47]

A. Quartet Preconditions (Hamas must renounce violence, recognize Israel, accept past agreements):

• Shikaki: Hamas is not ideologically able to fulfill these in full, but is displaying incremental moderation and de facto acceptance ([68:12]).
• Feldman: Of the three, acceptance of prior agreements is most operationally important ([71:07]).
  • “The really important one among them ... is that the new government assumes the responsibilities ... of the previous Palestinian government.” — Shai Feldman

B. Israeli Public Opinion on Settlements:

• Feldman: Majority would support removal if credible agreement is possible; continuing violence from Gaza post-disengagement has strengthened settlers’ arguments for remaining ([73:00]).

C. Missed Opportunities for Confidence-Building:

• Feldman: Israel has not been generous enough with confidence-building toward Palestinians, e.g. prisoner releases, but security fears dominate decisions ([75:46]).

D. Nature of Proposed Palestinian State:

• Feldman: Israel desires a viable but not totally sovereign Palestinian state (especially regarding border controls), at least for an interim period ([78:00]).
  • Example: High trust with Jordan allows uninspected cross-border traffic.
  • Hopeful that trust-building could eventually enable similar arrangements with a future Palestinian state.

Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “My basic thesis then is that the current Palestinian domestic political conditions are such that they constrain, to a large extent, constrain Israeli Palestinian relations and make it impossible to move forward with the peace process.” — Khalil Shikaki [02:12]
• "The Palestinian state has almost become now a prerequisite to having a Jewish state." — Shai Feldman [41:00]
• "Given time, engaging them would encourage the more moderates within Hamas to move even further than they have gone so far. Without engaging them, it will take much longer." — Khalil Shikaki [34:40]
• "Israel’s nightmare is that the reality we now see in Gaza will be replicated in the West Bank." — Shai Feldman [79:59]
• "On one hand, Israel has an interest in that Palestinian state being viable, which means sovereign. But... given the fact that you are now after 100 years of conflict ... can you just say, okay, you know what? I’m out of the business of trying to affect what goes in and out of that state?" — Shai Feldman [78:50]

Segment Timestamps

• [00:00]–[35:00]: Khalil Shikaki on Palestinian developments (structure, causes, implications, options)
• [35:14]–[62:53]: Shai Feldman on the Israeli domestic scene, attitudes, strategic options, and the way forward
• [64:11]–[85:47]: Audience Q&A (~5 key questions)

Tone and Style

Both speakers are analytical, candid, and at times personal. They resist easy optimism, instead presenting a nuanced, sometimes sobering picture—yet both identify spaces for incremental progress and remain committed to careful, dispassionate analysis rather than polemic.

Conclusion

This episode offers a rigorous analysis of how internal political dynamics—leadership vacuums, institutional weakness, ideological divides, and strategic calculations—shape Israeli and Palestinian policy, options for negotiation, and the limited but real prospects for progress. Both speakers converge in their view that only incremental, realistic steps (“an option in between”) are likely in the near term. The ability to build trust, both internally and with third parties, is essential for any hope of substantive negotiation or peace.

Highly recommended for anyone seeking to understand the real obstacles—and limited possibilities—to Israeli-Palestinian peace, as seen through the lens of domestic politics on both sides.