The Manhunt: 1

Summary

LUIGI: Episode 1 - The Manhunt

Hosted by Jesse Weber | Law&Crime | Wondery
Release Date: March 24, 2025

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Introduction

In the gripping premiere of LUIGI, hosted by Jesse Weber of Law&Crime | Wondery, listeners are introduced to a high-stakes true crime story that not only delves into the harrowing details of a violent act but also explores the broader cultural and societal implications it ignites. This episode, titled "The Manhunt: 1," chronicles the audacious murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, and the ensuing nationwide pursuit of the suspect, Luigi Mangione.

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The Shooting Incident

On December 4th at 6:45 AM in Midtown Manhattan, Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, was en route to a pivotal investors' meeting. As Jesse Weber narrates, "The December air in New York City carries the crisp bite of winter as Brian Thompson... had no idea that someone is watching him" (00:47).

Without warning, Thompson was ambushed by an assailant who approached him from behind, drew a weapon, and fired multiple shots, striking Thompson before fleeing the scene on an E-bike. The attack was swift and ruthless, leaving the city and the nation in shock.

Notable Quote:

"This wasn't a professional hit. This was done by an amateur." — Jerry Clark (02:14)

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The Manhunt

The New York Police Department (NYPD) faced the daunting task of locating the shooter in a city bustling with millions. Detectives began their search by meticulously reviewing surveillance footage from the area.

Former FBI agent Tracy Walder explained, "Facial recognition software scoured thousands of surveillance images looking for the man in the hood" (09:03). The perpetrator, later identified as Luigi Mangione, exhibited behaviors that suggested desperation and a lack of professional training, hinting at his vulnerability and the possible motivations behind his actions.

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Evidence Collection

At the crime scene, investigators found critical evidence, including three spent cartridge cases inscribed with the words "Delay," "Deny," and "Depose," indicating a personal motive (03:34). Additional clues such as a water bottle, cell phone, and granola bar wrapper were collected, each bearing DNA that would later link Mangione to the crime (04:09).

Jesse Weber emphasizes the significance of these findings:

"But more importantly, it's the physical evidence that you really want, because you need something to tie someone directly to this event." — Brian Thompson (17:38)

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Public and Online Reactions

The assassination of a high-profile corporate executive triggered a wave of responses both offline and online. While corporate entities mourned Thompson's loss, segments of the internet began to view Mangione's act through a different lens, questioning corporate ethics and healthcare policies.

Legal Analyst insights reveal:

"There was complete incuriosity on the part of the major press to think, why are these kind of ordinary people... glomming onto this?" (26:03)

This polarization highlighted a growing disillusionment with corporate power and fueled debates on systemic failures.

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Arrest and Charges

Five days post-incident, Luigi Mangione was apprehended in Altoona, Pennsylvania, after a vigilant customer recognized him from circulated surveillance images. The arrest was swift, with Mangione found in a McDonald's, engrossed in his meal, oblivious to the gravity of his situation (14:21).

Upon his arrest, significant evidence was recovered from his possession, including a 3D-printed "ghost gun," a homemade suppressor, a loaded Glock magazine, falsified identification, and a stash of cash, all tying him directly to the crime (16:04).

Notable Quote:

"We have a weapon. We have ammunition. We have fingerprints... on the weapon." — Brian Thompson (17:27)

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Court Proceedings

Mangione's initial court appearance in Blair County was tumultuous, marked by his defiant demeanor and immediate challenges to the prosecution's case. The legal process further intensified when he resisted extradition to New York, citing the need for a fair trial amidst what his attorney labeled "political theater" (24:09).

After a brief legal struggle, Mangione opted to waive his right to an extradition hearing, facilitating his transfer to New York where he faced multiple serious charges, including first-degree murder and terrorism.

Notable Quote:

"He's somebody who is afforded the right to a fair trial. He's innocent until proven guilty." — Tom Verney (24:34)

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Cultural and Systemic Implications

Beyond the immediate criminal case, LUIGI delves into the symbolic nature of Mangione's actions. He has become a focal point for broader frustrations with the healthcare system and corporate greed, sparking a cultural reckoning. Protests erupted, with supporters viewing Mangione as a revolutionary figure challenging an oppressive system, while others condemned the act as terrorism.

Jesse Weber poses critical questions:

"What had driven him to this point? And how would the story unfold once he faced trial in New York?" (21:40)

The episode underscores the tension between individual actions and systemic issues, setting the stage for an ongoing exploration of America's sociopolitical landscape.

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Conclusion

Episode 1 of LUIGI masterfully intertwines the narrative of a high-profile murder with an exploration of deeper societal conflicts. Through detailed recounting, expert insights, and poignant quotes, Jesse Weber guides listeners through the complexities of Luigi Mangione's act, the ensuing manhunt, and the cultural debates it has sparked. As the series progresses, it promises to further dissect the moral, political, and cultural divides that define this pivotal American moment.

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Notable Quotes

1. Brian Thompson (00:47):

   "He's approached from behind by this assailant who pulls out a weapon and starts firing at him."

2. Jerry Clark (02:14):

   "If you're going to run from somebody, why would you go out in the middle of nowhere and see if you can blend in when you have 9 million people that you can blend in?"

3. Tracy Walder (09:03):

   "It was very quiet, 6:45 in the morning, so you don't have a lot that way, but you do have every different escape route..."

4. Brian Thompson (17:27):

   "We have a weapon. We have ammunition. We have fingerprints on the weapon."

5. Tom Verney (24:34):

   "He's somebody who is afforded the right to a fair trial. He's innocent until proven guilty."

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Stay Tuned:
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Transcript

[Jesse Weber]

Wonder plus subscribers can binge all episodes of Law and Crimes Luigi early and ad free right now. Join Wonder plus in the Wondery app, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify and get ad free access to more thrilling long crime series, including daily episodes of Sidebar with Jesse Weber. The following podcast explores an active investigation unfolding in real time. Luigi Mangione is considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. December 4, 6:45am Midtown Manhattan is just waking up.

[Brian Thompson]

That's the witching hour. That's the time of the day where things really start to come alive in the city.

[Jesse Weber]

The December air in New York City carries the crisp bite of winter as Brian Thompson, CEO of United Healthcare, steps out of the Marriott hotel on West 54th street, heading toward the Midtown Hilton on Sixth Avenue, where the United Health Group annual investors meeting is about to kick off. Thompson had built his successful career on numbers, profits and policies. We're talking about the CEO of the biggest private health insurance corporation in the world in human history, and he's on.

[Brian Thompson]

His way to a conference to be one of the keynote speakers.

[Jesse Weber]

As he makes the three minute walk from the Marriott to the Hilton, preparing for the biggest meeting of the year, he has no idea that someone is watching him.

[Brian Thompson]

He's approached from behind by this assailant who pulls out a weapon and starts firing at him.

[Jesse Weber]

A gunshot rings out, then another.

[Brian Thompson]

And then he's hit. He's struck multiple times and then he goes down to the floor.

[Jesse Weber]

The gunman doesn't linger. He immediately flees, speeding away on an E bike. And New York City became a hunting ground.

[Brian Thompson]

You have a population of about eight and a half million people. You have an undocumented population in the hundreds of Thousands. You have 2 to 3 million people that commute into New York City every day, either as visitors or as commuters to go to work or school.

[Tom Verney]

It seems 100% like a needle in a haystack.

[Jerry Clark]

If you're going to run from somebody, why would you go out in the middle of nowhere and see if you can blend in when you have 9 million people that you can blend in? And pretty much everybody's been taught to mind your own business. So New York City is a great place to hide in plain sight.

[Jesse Weber]

The NYPD knew instantly this would be no easy feat. The killer had vanished into the chaos of Midtown, slipping away like a ghost. But the police had one certainty.

[Jerry Clark]

This wasn't a professional hit. This was done by an amateur.

[Jesse Weber]

And they would find him a sort.

[Brian Thompson]

Of professional, quote unquote, professional assassin would have been super Stealth. You wouldn't have seen where the shot came from, and certainly you wouldn't have seen him running away to grab a bike and leaving behind a number of items with, you know, eventually what we would find out to be a treasure trove of clues.

[Jesse Weber]

The first clues were scattered at the crime scene outside the Hilton on West 54th Street. As detectives crouched over Thompson's body, the sidewalk still slick with blood, their eyes fell on something chilling. Three spent cartridge cases. Each one was marked with a single word etched into the metal like a sinister calling card. Delay, deny, depose. This wasn't random. This was personal.

[Jerry Clark]

This was somebody who just committed cold blooded murder. But there is a reason for it. He had this target. This was his. And that's what he had planned to do, and that's what he carried out.

[Jesse Weber]

From Law and Crime and Twist. I'm Jesse Weber, and this is Luigi. Whether he knew it or not, the gunman fled the scene with a trace. Outside the Hilton, Midtown police quickly began gathering scraps of physical evidence. Here's retired NYPD detective Tom Verney recalling what they first found.

[Brian Thompson]

There was a water bottle.

[Jesse Weber]

There was a cell phone and a granola bar wrapper. Former FBI agent Jerry Clark says these might just be little clues, but with an essential trait.

[Tracy Walder]

DNA will be on it.

[Jesse Weber]

But they still had to find the perpetrator to make a match.

[Brian Thompson]

And it became like a Where's Waldo sort of a search.

[Jesse Weber]

The clock was ticking.

[Brian Thompson]

So you have someone who's thinking irrationally, and now they're armed with a weapon and ammunition. That's never a good combination, at least from the law enforcement side of things. And that's why it was important to try to track him down as quickly as possible.

[Jesse Weber]

Nobody knew what this guy might be capable of.

[Brian Thompson]

He's on the run, and he's going to become desperate. And when people become desperate and they start to get cornered like a cornered rat, you know they're going to attack. And sometimes when they attack, even if their focus is to try to stop the police or law enforcement from getting them, that attack could inevitably encompass a wide range of other people as collateral damage. So that's why law enforcement was very concerned, not only for the other potential targets that he may have had in his crosshairs, but for the general public at large. Because now you had someone who was going to become increasingly desperate to try to get away and not get caught, and then other people could have been roped into that scope of violence. And that's what we were worried about.

[Jesse Weber]

In the days following the Shooting, the NYPD launched an exhaustive effort to track down the suspected killer. Their first breakthrough came from the city's vast network of surveillance cameras. Detectives meticulously sifted through hours of footage. Former FBI and CIA agent Tracy Walder explains how they retraced the suspect's steps before and after the crime. They almost traced his movements backwards to see what his movements were going to be forwards. Here's what they found from the morning of the shooting. At 5:41am cameras inside a Starbucks on West 56th street and 6th Avenue recorded the shooter as he stepped inside. Appearing calm, he placed an order, waited briefly, then exited, disappearing into the shadows of towering buildings. Nearly an hour later, at 6:30am Another camera caught him just outside the Hilton Midtown Hotel. He walked along the sidewalk, phone pressed to his ear, his movements deliberate but unhurried. The streets around him remained quiet, the morning rush not yet in full swing. Fifteen minutes later, at 6:45am the shooter reappeared, this time approaching United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson from behind. The moment was brief, captured in chilling clarity by a security camera near the hotel entrance. Without warning, he raised a firearm, racked the pistol after it appeared to jam, fired multiple shots at close range, ultimately striking Thompson in the back and leg. The executive collapsed while the shooter hesitated for only a second before slipping the gun back into his jacket. His movements were carefully analyzed, each frame of footage bringing law enforcement closer to understanding his escape route. By 6:48am he was gone. Cameras followed his retreat as he crossed the street, ducked into an alley, and mounted a bicycle. In the final frames, he could be seen pedaling into the vast expanse of Central park, vanishing into the early morning haze. It was a seemingly flawless escape, but the digital eye of the city had already etched his movements into evidence. And there was more. As detectives followed the suspect's trail further backwards, more clues surfaced. They discovered he had checked into a New York City hostel using a fraudulent New Jersey id And on CCTV footage from the hostel, one critical image emerged in all the security footage before, the suspect's face had been covered when he.

[Brian Thompson]

Was at the hostel and lowered his mask enough where you had a full facial picture of him.

[Jesse Weber]

A male figure cloaked in shadows, a hood drawn tightly over his head, obscuring much of his face, but the most anyone had captured until now, he was clearly identifiable.

[Brian Thompson]

And that was really the key.

[Jesse Weber]

The dim lighting casts an eerie glow, accentuating the grainy texture of the footage. A faint smile plays on his lips, almost out of place. A cryptic expression that could be amusement, confidence, or something far more Chilling a scarf or gator wraps around his neck, concealing the lower half of his face, adding to the anonymity. His jacket is thick, practical, blending into the muted tones of the background.

[Tracy Walder]

So the identity becomes really important.

[Brian Thompson]

Now, once that picture got plastered out into every part of the country, in every mode of media, whether it be news media, social media, and otherwise, you know, everyone was kind of looking for this dude.

[Jesse Weber]

It was a calculated move, one that ignited a flood of tips from concerned citizens and brought them closer to their suspect, who was still at large. No one knew where he was, but law enforcement knew one thing. He was on the run. A national alert went out. Federal agents and the Joint Terrorism Task Force joined the hunt. Facial recognition software scoured thousands of surveillance images looking for the man in the hood.

[Tracy Walder]

It was very quiet, 6:45 in the morning, so you don't have a lot that way, but you do have every different escape route or direction that he could go and find cameras that might have picked him up. And then they pick him up on the bike, and then they pick him up again, and now you're starting to piece together the direction and where he might be headed.

[Jesse Weber]

At 6:56am he emerges from Central park, riding swiftly into the waking city. The streets are beginning to stir, but he moves with purpose, weaving through the morning. By 6:58am surveillance cameras capture him at 85th street and Columbus Avenue, still on the E bike, cutting through the early rush with precision. But just two minutes later, at 7am he abandons the bike, now moving northbound on 86th street on foot, blending into the flow of pedestrians. At 7:04am he hails a cab, slipping into the backseat. His escape is in motion. By 7:30am he's seen near the George Washington Bridge, close to the Port Authority bus station on 178th Street. The final piece of footage shows him stepping inside, the doors closing behind him, and then he's gone. Cameras and police had lost him, but they did find another clue deep in Central Park. While canvassing with drones, police noticed something out of place. A discarded backpack, hastily hidden behind a pile of leaves.

[Tracy Walder]

He just killed somebody. So you're gonna absolutely search that bag. You're gonna gain any evidence that's in it. You're gonna utilize that evidence to attempt to find him, and certainly at trial, to show his mind and his processes for the crime that he committed.

[Jesse Weber]

Inside was a Tommy Hilfiger jacket and, bizarrely, a stack of Monopoly money. It was strange, almost taunting. Was this a message? A game? This early on in an investigation, those questions don't matter.

[Brian Thompson]

There's always circumstantial evidence. But more importantly, it's the physical evidence that you really want, because you need something to tie someone directly to this event. And then, you know, later on, if you can come up with a motivation, then that's always helpful too, right? That sort of connecting all these dots or connecting all these puzzle pieces to make the puzzle complete.

[Jesse Weber]

While the NYPD were on their breathless hunt, news of the murder sent shockwaves through the country. The CEO of one of America's largest corporations gunned down in broad daylight. It seemed unthinkable. At UnitedHealthcare headquarters in Minnetonka, Minnesota, the company lowered its flags to half staff. Brian Thompson's colleagues, family and friends were in mourning. But outside corporate boardrooms, a different reaction was forming. Online, the unknown assailant's actions became a symbol. Was this an act of vengeance against a system that had denied health care to millions? It was only a matter of time before the public would get their answer. Five days later came the tip that cracked the case across state lines.

[Brian Thompson]

Earlier this morning in Altoona, Pennsylvania, members of the Altoona Police Department arrested Luigi Mangione, a 26 year old male, on firearms charges. At this time, he is believed to be our person of interest in the brazen, targeted murder of Brian Thompson, CEO of United Healthcare, last Wednesday in midtown Manhattan.

[Jesse Weber]

Here's how it all went down. Remember that grainy photo from the hostel?

[NYPD Officer]

This picture was obtained by the NYPD during one of their extensive video canvases. We took that photograph and we asked for the public's help in identifying this subject, and the public responded. Hundreds of tips began to pour into our hotline. Each tip was investigated thoroughly and we began to release additional photographs as they came into our possession. The NYPD provided these photos to numerous media outlets. Local, national and international outlets released the photo via television, print, social media and online content.

[Jesse Weber]

And by December 9, it had reached a customer at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, nearly 300 miles from the Hilton in midtown Manhattan.

[NYPD Officer]

Luckily, a citizen in Pennsylvania recognized our subject and called local law enforcement. Members of the Altoona Police Department responded to the call, and based on their investigation, they notified the nypd.

[Jesse Weber]

It was a customer who recognized him first. They had seen the news, the grainy security footage of the gunman walking away from the crime scene. It was something about the way he moved and his sharp but cautious eyes that triggered an instinct. He sat alone at a small table in the McDonald's, his laptop open beside a worn backpack. A medical Mask covered the lower half of his face, a brown beanie pulled low over his head, and a dark jacket wrapped tightly around him. He seemed lost in thought, focused on his meal. Unbeknownst to him, the customer had alerted an employee whose fingers trembled as they dialed 911. And within minutes, unmarked police vehicles swarmed the parking lot. Officers moved in silently, their breath visible in the winter chill. They found the suspect calmly reading, unaware that his time was up. The quiet anonymity he had sought in a small town fast food franchise had vanished in an instant when, moments later, police busted through the doors. For days, their suspect had stayed ahead of them. He had moved carefully, covering his tracks, keeping low. But now he had nowhere to go. When they finally took him down, there was no dramatic shootout, no last words, Just the quiet click of handcuffs. A photo shared by the Pennsylvania State Police captured the scene. Mangione with his blue mask dangling loosely from one ear mid bite into what looked like a hash brown. Officers quickly seized the backpack. On his person, he's in possession of.

[Brian Thompson]

What'S called a ghost gun, which is something you can literally download off the Internet and then print out on a.

[Jesse Weber]

3D printer, its black polymer frame fitted with a metal slide. Alongside it lay a homemade suppressor and a loaded glock magazine containing six 9 millimeter rounds, one of them a hollow point designed to inflict maximum damage. And there was more. A falsified New Jersey driver's license under the name Mark Rosario hinted at an attempt to hide his true identity. The same alias he had used when checking into a New York City hostel before his arrest. A stash of cash totaling $10,000, including $2,000 in foreign currency. As if he had been perhaps preparing for a swift escape. A box of medical masks, a seemingly mundane detail, yet one that completed the picture of a man on the run. And a US passport that confirmed his real name, Luigi Mangione. As investigators pieced together the evidence, it became clear Mangione wasn't just another anonymous face in a fast food restaurant. He was the prime suspect in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. And the manhunt that had gripped the nation had finally come to an end. And to the authorities, this was definitely the guy they say shot Brian Thompson.

[Tracy Walder]

They have him captured on film shooting another human being.

[Brian Thompson]

Gobs of physical evidence that connect him to the actual crime. We have a weapon. We have ammunition. We have fingerprints. Fingerprints on the weapon. We have fingerprints on a water bottle.

[Jesse Weber]

The nypd, working in lockstep with the FBI and the Manhattan District Attorney's office immediately dispatched detectives to Altoona.

[Tracy Walder]

And so consequence becomes the biggest issue.

[Jesse Weber]

Now for him and for the American people. The unmasking of Luigi Mangione slowly began to expose another massive issue. On platforms like X, TikTok and Reddit, initial reactions were a mix of shock, outrage and conspiracy theories. Many were horrified by the apparent cold blooded murder of a corporate executive in broad daylight, while others speculated about Mangione's alleged motives, digging through his digital footprint in search of clues. As more details about Mangione's background surfaced, including his criticisms of corporate greed and the healthcare industry, a segment of the Internet began to lionize him. Following his arrest in Altoona, Luigi Mangione found himself facing a series of serious charges in Blair County.

[Brian Thompson]

The fact that he was caught with a weapon with ammunition that local jurisdiction is now going to want to file charges.

[Jesse Weber]

Prosecutors wasted no time charging him with multiple offenses the day of his arrest, including carrying a firearm without a license, forgery, false identification to law enforcement, and possession of instruments of crime. Luigi Mangione's first appearance in Blair County Court on December 10, 2024 was anything but quiet as he was led into the courthouse in Hollidaysburg wearing shackles and an orange jumpsuit. Cameras flashed while reporters shouted questions, but it was Mangione's own voice that cut through the noise. Completely unjust. And the info of the American people and plant experience. He barked at the press, his frustration unmistakable. He carried himself with an air of defiance, though once inside the courtroom, his demeanor shifted. Seated before the judge, Mangione answered in short, clipped responses. His defense attorney, Thomas M. Dickey, leaned in often, the two whispering in hushed tones. Behind him, a row of NYPD officers sat like a wall of silent enforcers, their presence a reminder that New York was waiting. But getting him back to the Big Apple, Verney explains, that's where things get a bit more complicated.

[Brian Thompson]

In order to bring him back to New York county in New York City, they're going to have to extradite him. Now it just becomes sort of a bureaucratic red tape situation, right?

[Jesse Weber]

His arraignment at the Blair County Courthouse was swift, and any hope of walking free while awaiting further proceedings was crushed when the judge denied bail. The real weight of the proceedings, however, lay in the extradition battle. Initially, he resisted extradition, forcing Pennsylvania New York officials to coordinate on securing a governor's warrant. Warrant.

[Brian Thompson]

It just becomes more of an extra step or two because now we have to file a warrant for their arrest and potentially have the ability to cross state lines to Go and get the person.

[Jesse Weber]

Needless to say, they got that warrant in a snap. But just 10 days later, in a surprising turn, on December 19, 2024, Mangione reversed course, waiving his right to an extradition hearing. His transfer was set in motion. After days of legal wrangling, he would be handed over to New York authorities, where he would face the most serious charges yet. And outside the courthouse in Blair county, the scene was just as tense. Protesters gathered, carrying signs that read Free Luigi and voicing their frustrations with the health care system, a system they believed had failed people like Mangione. He's awoken the people to a true issue.

[Tom Verney]

It's a predictable outcome of a violent system.

[Jesse Weber]

Violence makes changes in American history, they chanted, their voices echoing off the courthouse walls as cameras captured every moment of the unfolding drama. The case had evolved beyond one man and one crime. It had become a symbol of something larger, a reflection of deeper societal struggles. As Mangione was led away under tight security, the questions remained. What had driven him to this point? And how would the story unfold once he faced trial in New York, as.

[Prosecutor]

We allege, the defendant in that case brazenly shot Mr. Thompson twice in midtown Manhattan. He was targeted, premeditated, admit to sow terror. Accordingly, we charged him here in Manhattan earlier this week with murder in the first degree, among additional charges which carry the maximum sentence of life with without parole. This morning, the defendant waived extradition in Pennsylvania and was picked up and is in the process of being transported by the NYPD here to New York. I'll let the Southern District of New York speak for itself about their plans, but I do want to note that, speaking generally, we've had state prosecutions and federal prosecutions proceed as parallel matters, and we're in conversations with our law enforcement counterparts.

[Jesse Weber]

Upon his arrival arrival in Brooklyn, he was immediately placed in the Metropolitan Detention Center, a stark new reality in a case that has already captured national attention. Now in New York, Mangione faced the full weight of the law. State charges of first degree murder as an act of terrorism and federal charges that included interstate stalking and murder with a firearm. The latter carried the most severe consequences, with the potential for the death penalty looming over him. Just before Christmas, the Manhattan Supreme Court was packed, buzzing with tension as Mangione entered in shackles. He wasn't slouched or defeated. Dressed in a maroon sweater over a white collared shirt, tan khakis and prison issued orange shoes, he walked in, scanning the room, a faint smirk tugging at the corners of his mouth. When the charges were read, first degree murder, terrorism, he didn't flinch. His voice was steady, firm. Not guilty. Not guilty. A simple declaration, but one that sent murmurs rippling through the courtroom. His attorney, Karen Friedman, agniphilo, wasted no time going on the offensive. She ripped into city officials.

[Tom Verney]

These federal and state prosecutors are coordinating with one another, but at the expense of him. They have conflicting theories in their indictments, and they are literally treating him like he is some sort of political fodder, like some sort of spectacle. He was on display for everyone to see in the biggest staged perp walk I've ever seen in my career. It was absolutely unnecessary.

[Jesse Weber]

This is political theater, she argued, warning that the media circus threatened her client's right to a fair trial.

[Tom Verney]

He's not a symbol. He's somebody who is afforded the right to a fair trial. He's innocent until proven guilty. And we're going to fight these charges, whether it's in the state or federal, to the fullest extent.

[Jesse Weber]

But the real show was outside. Hundreds of supporters had gathered, waving signs and chanting their battle cry. Some wore T shirts emblazoned with his face. Others held banners painting him as a revolutionary figure. To them, he wasn't just a man on trial. He was a symbol, a hero striking back at corporate America. A vigilante of sorts, his actions would soon spark intense debate, with a wave of public supporters rallying behind him. Whether seen as a martyr or a menace, one thing was certain. The trial ahead would be anything but ordinary. And as the hearing ended, Mangione was led away, still calm, still unreadable. But one thing was unmistakably clear.

[Brian Thompson]

We have a manifesto that he's written that literally explained why this particular person was targeted. This particular company was at the crosshairs of his ire and anger.

[Jesse Weber]

On the next episode of Luigi.

[Legal Analyst]

If you looked at the way the major press was talking about, it was like, we all have to come together and condemn this and basically say nothing else. I mean, yes, we don't want a society where people can go around and just vigilante justice, you know, harm people. But there was just complete incuriosity on the part of the major press to think, why are these kind of ordinary people who are not particularly political, glomming onto this? There was no curiosity about it. And then you talk to them and you find out, oh, they're not pro murder, but they also are frustrated with the health care system.

[Jesse Weber]

This has been a Law and Crime and Twist production. I'm your host, Jesse Weber. For Law and Crime, our executive producer is Jessica Lowther. Our writer and senior producer is Cooper Maul. Our editor is Anna McClain. Our bookers are Diane Kay and Alyssa Fisher. Legal review by Elizabeth Vouli and Stephanie Beach. Key art design by Sean Panzera for Twist Media. Our executive producers are Jane Latman and Haruka Wakamoto. Follow Long Crimes Luigi on the Wondery app. You can binge the entire series early and ad free right now on Wondery. Join Wondery plus in the Wondery app, Spotify or Apple Podcasts and get ad free access to even more thrilling long crime series, including daily episodes of Sidebar with Jesse Weber. Start your free trial today.