Candace Owens Says Charlie Kirk Was A Time Traveler | Jan 20, 2026 - Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter

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Macrodosing: "Candace Owens Says Charlie Kirk Was A Time Traveler"

Date: January 20, 2026
Hosts: PFT Commenter, Arian Foster, Big T, Macrodosing crew
Theme: Wading through wild news, sports conspiracies, viral social media moments, and the latest on the Candace Owens-Charlie Kirk saga.

Episode Overview

This episode is a classic Macrodosing blend of current events, sports debate, online culture, and “brain tickling” conspiracy discussion. While the NFL playoffs and sports media moments dominate the first half, the back half spins into the “What is Candace Owens talking about now?” vortex, with detours into kids and gambling, time travel, and performative online grieving. Wild, funny, sometimes head-shaking, the episode is a window into the “accelerated weirdness” of 2026 sports and Internet culture.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Acknowledging MLK Day & Opening Banter (04:10)

The crew briefly acknowledges Martin Luther King Jr. Day.
Quote (04:36, Host 3): "Happy MLK Day. Remember, he was a revolutionary, anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist…and he gets remembered as can we all get along? He was revolutionary. He was disruptive."
They note that public memory often “sanitizes” radical figures like King.

NFL Playoffs and Football Talk (05:20–26:26)

Changes in College Football

Discussion about the lengthened college football season and potential 24-team playoffs.
Big T and others express growing fatigue with the ever-expanding format.
Quote (05:49, Host 1): "Honestly, I feel my interest in college football waning slightly…If that’s the case for me, I know for most people in the country, that means it’s tremendously gone down."

NFL Playoff Recap

Breakdown of the weekend’s NFL Wild Card/Round games.
Focus on CJ Stroud (Texans) and Bryce Young (Panthers), with a “who would you start your franchise with?” segment.
Notable Segment: Host 1 chooses Bryce Young over Stroud due to perceived “untapped specialness” (13:11).
Extended debate on QBs, coaching, and team performances.

The Bills, Firing McDermott & Emotional Fandom

Bills fans react to the firing of Sean McDermott. Mackenzie shares her viral take:
- Quote (29:27, Mackenzie): "I’d rather die with no Super Bowls with Josh Allen as my quarterback than ever win a Super Bowl. Which is—it's quite a take."
The pod teases her about whether she loves Allen more than the Bills itself.

Play-Action Catch Rule & NFL Grievances

Intense debate over what constitutes a catch in the NFL and the “over-granular” nature of rulebook.
Quote (20:50, Big T): "Sometimes you just lose the vibe of…yeah, that felt like a catch."

MLB & Dodgers’ Spending (36:26–44:48)

Dodgers Dominate Free Agency

Rant about Dodgers’ TV deals, luxury tax, deferred contracts and competitive imbalance.
Host 1 floats a supermax/un-capped roster spot idea to spread top talent.
- Quote (43:07, Host 1): "Or you can go play for the Dodgers, but you’re gonna be making $27 million instead of $60 million..."

Potential MLB Lockout Looms

Discussion turns to whether the league is heading for a lockout due to pay structure imbalance.
Quote (41:07, Host 1): "There will almost certainly be a lockout next year…it’s a matter of how long and how severe."

Viral Sports Media — Darren Rovell’s 11-Yr-Old “Sports Betting” (44:48–51:13)

Darren Rovell sets his 11-year-old son up on a free-to-play sports betting app. The pod debates parenting, exposure, and whether “no” is a good enough answer.
- Quote (46:30, Host 2): "Why isn’t 'no' the answer? Why can’t you say you have to be 18 to gamble?"
Debate over parenting philosophies, comparisons to drinking, and how much moderation should be taught or enforced.

Winter, Daylight Savings, and Existential Griping (60:10–70:10)

Daylight savings time: should it become permanent?
- Weighing the downside of dark mornings against bright evenings.
“Why do we live here?”—the perennial northern city winter lament.
Quote (65:26, Host 2): "The snot inside my nose froze and made icicles…this sucks so bad."
Amusing side debate: is the luxury mega-yacht lifestyle overrated?

Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk, & The “Time Traveler” Rabbit Hole (74:00–88:12)

The Latest:

Candace Owens is now publicly claiming Charlie Kirk might be a literal time traveler, and was sent to a secret X-Men "school" for gifted kids.
She’s connecting this with narratives about being "handled" by a Jewish cabal and deep-state child abuse.
- Quote (75:36, Big T): "Charlie Kirk might have been a time traveler."
- Quote (75:43, Host 1): "That he was put in a secret X-Men school for kids with special powers."
The pod agrees Candace is unraveling; considers if this is a prelude to an insanity defense in her ongoing defamation case with Brigitte Macron (the French First Lady, whom Owens accused of being a biological man).
They discuss the dark side of viral internet meme culture:
- Quote (79:38, Big T): "It’s been so memified that now…it’s like people are just joking nonstop about what’s happened."

The “We Are Charlie Kirk” Song

This AI-generated song becomes an ironic anthem—debate over if it started as sincere or parody.

Reflections on Online Grief

The speed that tragedy becomes meme (if 9/11 happened now) leads to reflections on how fast culture moves from sincerity to cynicism.

Rapid-Fire Roundup

Don Lemon's viral protest moment: No one seems to care much; Don Lemon’s relevance has diminished post-TV.
Mega Cheesesteak promo, Stella Blue Coffee plug (skip).
Greenland geo-politics: Half-joking about why the U.S. is so obsessed with buying Greenland—“rare earth minerals and strategic location.”
Sportsmanship vs. gambling & cultural values: Satirical parallel drawn—shouldn’t we be teaching kids sportsmanship instead of how to bet?

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On MLK & Legacy
"Remember, he was a revolutionary, anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist… he gets remembered as can we all get along?" (04:36, Host 3)

On Parenting & Gambling
"Why isn’t 'no' the answer? Why can’t you say you have to be 18 to gamble like the commercials and ads say?" (46:30, Host 2)

On Fandom & Loyalty
"I’d rather die with no Super Bowls with Josh Allen as my quarterback than ever win a Super Bowl." (29:27, Mackenzie)

On Conspiracies
"Charlie Kirk might have been a time traveler." (75:36, Big T)

On Meme Culture & Grief
"It’s been so memified that now…it’s like people are just joking nonstop about what’s happened since then." (79:38, Big T)

On Candace Owens’ Theories
"This is a guiding theology amongst the elite… Nick is trying to assist them in convincing the world that Satan is a conspiracy theory. This is why he always runs to cover for Brigitte Macron." (86:12, Host 1 quoting Candace Owens)

Timestamps for Key Segments

MLK & Revolutionary Legacy: 04:10–05:06
NFL Playoffs, QB Debate: 05:20–26:26
MLB/Dodgers’ Spending: 36:26–44:48
Rovell’s Child Gambling Controversy: 44:48–51:13
Winter/DST/Northern City Weather Lament: 60:10–70:10
Candace Owens, Time Travel, & Meme Grief: 74:00–88:12

Tone & Style

Consistently irreverent, skeptical, and tinged with self-deprecating humor, the episode cycles rapidly from “serious sports talk” to “Twitter is the apocalypse.” The hosts are candid with their own emotional volatility and fleeting attention spans—never more so than when parsing whether Candace Owens is a true conspiracy theorist or performing a legal strategy. Appropriately, the vibe is one of “deep but unserious caring”—the show’s signature.

Final Thoughts

For newcomers and old fans alike, this episode is a hilarious, dizzying snapshot of 2026’s sports, online, and political absurdities, with the Candace Owens/Charlie Kirk time travel conspiracy serving as a warped microcosm for the whole Macrodosing project: Take nothing for granted, but mock everything equally hard.

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Big T
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Macrodosing Host 1
Ravel's tweet says 11 year old son wanted to bet. So instead of saying no, which is not the answer, I set him up with a free to play app. I've been monitoring his quote bets and talking to him about his losses. Looked on app today to find this and then it shows the picture. Odd. Should be at least 20x on that.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Why is no the not?
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Macrodosing Host 1
Thank you for saying that. Someone asked that in the comments. Genuinely asking. But why isn't the answer? Why can't you say you have to be 18 to gamble like the commercials and ads etc say Darren Ravel because he's going to face it whether I monitor it or not. The ads don't control these kids. Parenting isn't about saying no here.
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Big T
All right. Three, two, one. Whoa.
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Macrodosing Host 3
I gotta press the button, bro. Oh, I thought that's what we just been pressed.
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Big T
I thought that's what we just did.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah, I just did it.
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Big T
Okay, go ahead.
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Macrodosing Host 3
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Big T
No, it's not that weird. I got a pretty normal haircut.
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Macrodosing Host 3
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Big T
I got pulled back. I just pulled it back this morning.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Let me see. Turn to the side.
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Big T
God. Little mini bun.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Why the cleft in the front, man?
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Big T
Because I just kind of mullet. I just kind of ruffled it up a little bit this morning.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Okay, yeah.
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Big T
The cleft.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah.
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Big T
Is that what it is?
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Macrodosing Host 1
I don't know.
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Big T
A cleft? A cleft front?
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Macrodosing Host 1
A ruffle.
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Big T
A ruffle? Yeah, ruffle.
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Macrodosing Host 3
A man bun mullet. This is. Have you done the thing that nobody has done?
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Big T
No, this is. Has been happening since the dawn of time.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Man bun mullet.
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Big T
Yeah, yeah, it happens. Listen, sometimes it's easier to tie it up. Can I get some help from the ladies that have long hair? Sometimes it's just easier to tie your hair up.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Totally with you, sister. Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Preach, sister.
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Big T
Yeah, period.
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Macrodosing Host 4
Queen.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Do what you need to do, Legend. Do you need a claw clip?
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Big T
Clock it.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Clock it.
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Big T
We're back on Nano dosing. Did I use that right? Yeah. Sweet. It is January 20th. It's Tuesday. And today's episode is brought to you by Kraken, the official crypto partner of Barstool Sports. Kraken is the real deal. Trusted by over 13 million users. It's secure, it doesn't fold when things get weird. Whether you're buying your first satoshi or if you're trading like a psyop day trader, Kraken has the tools. What you get 350 plus cryptocurrencies to trade, you get recurring buys, you get rewards for holding their geo dependent. You get up to 200 bucks when you refer your friends, terms and conditions apply. And right now Kraken's handing out 25 bucks in free Bitcoin to stoolies. Go to kraken.com barstool use code BARSTOOL25 and boom, it's in your account. New year, new trades. Control what you can trust no one. Except maybe Kraken. Not investment advice. Crypto trading involves risk of loss and is offered to U.S. customers, excluding New York and Maine through PayWord Interactive Incorporated. Welcome back to Nano Dosing. It is the 20th. We got a lot to get into today. Big weekend. Happy MLK Day. We're recording this on MLK Day on the the Monday and it's coming out on the Tuesday. So I don't know if there's anything MLK specific you'd like to get into today, but should at the very minimum acknowledge it's MLK Day as we're recording it.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Absolutely. Happy MLK Day. Remember, he was a revolutionary, anti capitalist, anti imperialist, and he gets remembered as can we all get along? He was revolutionary. He was disruptive.
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Big T
I think. Yeah, I think the, the end goal of we should all get along is something that people tend to focus on and they kind of Lose track of all the other stuff that he said.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Also an enemy of the state.
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Big T
Yep.
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Macrodosing Host 3
People did not like him while he was alive.
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Big T
Did the FBI. Did they release all the files about MLK yet?
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Macrodosing Host 3
I don't.
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Big T
Are we still hanging on to someone?
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Macrodosing Host 3
I don't think so. I think there's still some good. Good be. I don't know.
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Big T
So we're back. It was a big weekend. It's a big weekend for. For football in general. Tonight we got the championship game. So by the time you're listening to this, it will have happened.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Do you know that next year, it's a week later. It's on the 25th.
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Big T
Yeah, I saw that.
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Macrodosing Host 1
That's stupid.
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Macrodosing Host 3
The national championship game.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Yes. Is on January 25th next year.
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Macrodosing Host 3
That's the longest season in the world. It was already four weeks into the combine training when I was in school.
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Macrodosing Host 1
It's crazy. It's insane. And they're still talking this week about 16 teams in the playoff. 24. It's a racket. It's a. This, honestly, is the. Like, I feel my interest in college football waning slightly, which, If. Which if that's the case for me, I know for most people in the country, that means it's tremendously gone down.
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Big T
But do you think a 2014 playoff would attract more casuals?
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Macrodosing Host 1
I'm sure. And that's. That's their goal is to. Oh, yeah, sure. Screw it.
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Big T
The.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah. As many teams as you want. I'll watch that.
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Big T
So 2014 playoff is being pitched by the Big Ten, for the most part.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Right.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah. I think the Big Ten wants 24 teams. The SEC wants 16. They'll get to, you know, 64 eventually. Like, they're all just. Oh, more money.
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Big T
Yeah. Why does the Big Ten want 24?
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Macrodosing Host 1
I'm not entirely sure this one.
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Big T
They would just want their guys in there.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah. I don't know. I assume 24 teams would include every conference champion, which would be absurd. And so then you'd have Those, I guess, nine and then 15 at largest.
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Big T
Yeah. It doesn't seem like a great idea.
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Macrodosing Host 3
It wouldn't bother me if they just cut the December low out. It won't bother me as much. I guess there's this big lull at the end of the college football season, and they just stopped playing for a month, and then they got to hop back. It's just.
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Macrodosing Host 4
Well.
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Macrodosing Host 1
And you know who hopped into this the other day was President Trump, who just out of nowhere said, I'm granting Army Navy, like, a broadcast exemption.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Where I guess it was only a four hour window. So theoretically you could still play games on that day, just not during Army Navy.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Which is fine. But yeah. So that's another thing is that Saturday is taken up by Army Navy.
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Big T
Yeah. So I, I kind of agree with Arian that the lull. If there wasn't that, that gap in there, it would make things, it would make it seem like it wasn't as drawn out even if you had this big 24 team tournament. But the problem with that is scheduling and fans traveling. You'd have to just say like you'd have to say every year the places that are assigned to this conference, they play at this location on this day. So that people can like start to plan ahead.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah.
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Big T
But yeah, it seems like they're just fundamentally changing the sport.
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Macrodosing Host 1
They are. It's, it's a shame. Who do you think won last night?
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Big T
Last night? I think Indiana won. I think so too.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah. Funny way to put it.
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Big T
Yeah. Last Indiana won and 31, 20. Yeah, they covered. Yeah, I think they won. They covered and it was not a fun game.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Indiana play. So I can't call it. I watched Miami play, but I haven't, I haven't watched Indiana play a full game.
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Big T
Aaron, did you watch any football over the weekend?
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Macrodosing Host 3
I did watch football over the weekend.
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Big T
What'd you think about football?
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Macrodosing Host 3
I think football, I think football this weekend was probably some of the best games playoff wise I've seen maybe ever, but in a long time.
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Big T
Yeah. Well, I mean the, the 49ers Seahawks game was bad. Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 3
I mean they got out of, that.
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Big T
Got out of hand but for the.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Most part every other. It was competitive, good football going on. That's why I like the NFL over college. Just good football, schematically great football going on.
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Big T
Did you watch the Texans?
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Macrodosing Host 3
I did watch the Texans.
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Big T
What were your thoughts on. On Patriots? Texans?
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Macrodosing Host 3
I feel like d' amigo's done a hell of a job over there and I feel like they time coming. I think everybody's kind of wondering if C.J. stroud is the guy for the job. I don't, I don't know. I haven't watched him enough to analyze his, his, his game like that. But what I do know is, you know, in the moment he shrunk a little bit in this, in this playoffs and you can see it, it was like almost, almost felt like he was shook a little bit. Yeah. Like, like, you know what I'm saying? Like something. He just didn't look right, which to me looks like he's shook. I'VE seen players get shook before, but you never know. Like I said, I don't know. I think he's talented, but that's this league. This league is if you don't produce them, rumblings get louder. And I know he's hearing them ever since his rookie season. And so that's the nature of the game, especially when you play quarterback. So this offseason, it's on you. It's on you, doggy. You gotta. You gotta put in the work. But again, it's fun watching that defense go to work. That defense is special.
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Big T
They're nasty. Will Anderson, Laster, they. They got some absolute dogs out there. Will Anderson might be my favorite defensive lineman in the NFL.
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Macrodosing Host 3
And what's the linebacker? Zero. I don't know his name.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Is that Al Shire?
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Macrodosing Host 3
There you go. Cold. I love his game. Petrie, everybody singly squad. Yeah. And that's the thing that all you got to do when you got a defense like that. Don't turn it over. Yeah, don't turn it over. And you gonna, you're gonna walk into the super bowl because that's. That defense is that good. And we just.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Could I interest you in five turnovers. Is that how many they had?
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Big T
It sounds right. Four interceptions.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 1
And then Marks had a fumble.
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Big T
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was. It was ugly. And CJ Stroud had such a good rookie year. And then last year, for whatever reason, the, the offense took a step back and then people blamed it on the coordinator who didn't come back after that, Bobby Slowik.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Who?
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Big T
After. After CJ's rookie year, people were talking about Bobby Slow like he was the next Sean McVeigh, like he was gonna be the next young head coach. And then last year, obviously not great, but this year still didn't look very good. Now, he didn't have Nico Collins, but. And I guess that does make a difference. But he also, like you said, he looked shook. He looked just scared back. He looked very hesitant the entire time. And on a lot of the passes that he was throwing, he was like hesitating just enough. Throwing the ball behind this guy is a bad performance for cj. And now they've got to make a decision about CJ Stroud and what they're going to do with his fifth year option.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah, it's a thing. Like I said, man, in this league, the rumblings get loud. The rumblings get loud. And you're gonna have split camps. This is our guy. You're gonna have, hey, we need to move on.
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Big T
Like.
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Macrodosing Host 3
And that's. That's That's a tough position. You got to be mentally strong to be able to handle that.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 3
And I know these younger cats live on social media. It's time to log off and lock in.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 3
If I'm him, I'm not. I'm not touching social media. And I'm just. I'm just going to work. Going to work.
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Big T
Big T. I have a question for you.
[12:50]
Macrodosing Host 1
I might have an answer.
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Big T
You are the GM of a football team. Professional.
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Macrodosing Host 1
I would love that job.
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Big T
President of football.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Even better job.
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Big T
You have two options for your quarterback.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Okay.
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Big T
C.J. stroud. Yep. Bryce Young.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Who's the head coach.
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Big T
Coach of your choosing because you're the president of football.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Okay. I would take Bryce Young.
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Big T
Really?
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Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah.
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Big T
Shout out, Panthers fans.
[13:22]
Macrodosing Host 1
Young still has something special in him if the right guy can unlock it.
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Big T
Yeah. You don't think C.J. does.
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Macrodosing Host 1
It's there. Like, he's a talented player, but, I mean, it's now two years in a row. He hasn't really done anything for me.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Like Bryce Young. The second half of this season was great.
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Big T
He was. And it's crazy that we're having the conversation because rookie seasons, it was. It was as bad as it could get for Panthers fans.
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Macrodosing Host 1
You were certain they benched his ass?
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Big T
Without a doubt. You picked the wrong guy.
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Macrodosing Host 3
And his ass is crazy. Yo, that's just crazy.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 1
What?
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Macrodosing Host 3
Benched his ass.
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Macrodosing Host 1
That's. That's what. That's what happened.
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Macrodosing Host 3
That's just crazy, man.
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Big T
That's what they did. His ass was on the bench. Where was his ass sitting?
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Macrodosing Host 1
And then benches front.
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Big T
They put Andy Dalton's ass in the game.
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Macrodosing Host 1
You don't crouch on the bench.
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Macrodosing Host 3
I'll tell you who's going to be good next year is Jaguars.
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Big T
Yeah, they're good this year.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah, But I'm saying, like, they go, they're gonna make a legit run next year.
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Big T
You heard it here first, Eric. They got it. They got a great, great head coach. I think we have the Texans. They got some. Some choices to make this off season. And then one of the craziest games. I'd say probably the. Maybe the second craziest game of the weekend. Maybe the craziest. Bills, Broncos on Saturday.
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Macrodosing Host 3
And that was Good game.
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Big T
It was a very good game. He had overtime. Josh Allen played a pretty poor game, I think it's safe to say.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Oh. Oh, Mac back there.
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Big T
Max here.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 4
No comment. No, I agree.
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Big T
And then the Bills. This morning, we find out the Bills just fired their head coach, Sean McDermott, which I think was the right call. I think Shawn McDermot is a good head coach. I think that he. He did a great job in Buffalo getting them to the playoffs over and over and over again. He's a big part of that turnaround. But at some point, if you keep having these heartbreaking losses in the playoffs, it just. It stays with you and it makes you. It affects you as a person and as a coach, and it's time that you. You got to make a change. I think for everybody, it's probably. There might be a certain part of McDermott who feels relief knowing that, hey, end of shift work here is done. Like, obviously, he doesn't want to be fired, and he wishes that things had gone differently. But at some point, if you just keep having these heartbreaking losses becomes like a deep part of who you are as a head coach. And you got to make a change. New change of scenery for everybody. I think would be healthy. So they fired him this morning, and the Broncos beat the Bills on Saturday. And then about 15 minutes after the game's over, Sean Payton says Bo Nicks broke his ankle and he's not going to be able to play moving forward. So now I think, as America, we just need to accept the fact that the New England Patriots are going to go to the super bowl again. It's just going to happen.
[16:18]
Macrodosing Host 1
Are you trying to reverse jinx?
[16:20]
Big T
No, it's just going to happen. This is. This is. It's written in the stars. This is what happens to New England sports fans is everything goes good for you and everything goes bad for everybody else.
[16:31]
Macrodosing Host 1
It is actually ridiculous that they get to play Jared Stidham.
[16:34]
Big T
That's how it goes. It's. There's something. Something about New England sports fans that just have a charmed life.
[16:42]
Macrodosing Host 1
I. Did you see this about the bills? So since 2020, they have the best record in the NFL?
[16:47]
Big T
Yep.
[16:48]
Macrodosing Host 1
Their point differential is 902 in that time frame. Do you know what second is since 2020?
[16:55]
Big T
Yeah. Would it be the Rams have been pretty good?
[17:00]
Macrodosing Host 1
Well, no, it's the. It's the Ravens, but their point differential is.581.
[17:06]
Big T
Holy shit.
[17:06]
Macrodosing Host 1
And the bills are 902.
[17:08]
Big T
Yeah.
[17:09]
Macrodosing Host 3
I mean, what are the. What are these stats? This is for everybody that.
[17:12]
Macrodosing Host 1
That doesn't know point differential, just how many points they've scored, how many points your opponents.
[17:16]
Macrodosing Host 3
Okay, got you.
[17:18]
Macrodosing Host 1
The Bills are. They have the best record since 2020. They have scored the most points. They have allowed the fewest points. They have the best record, and they haven't. They get to One AFC championship game or two?
[17:32]
Big T
Was it one? Two? I think two. They. Yeah, there was the Mahomes.
[17:38]
Macrodosing Host 1
13 seconds that went to overtime.
[17:41]
Big T
Overtime, yeah. What was the other AFC championship game for them?
[17:44]
Macrodosing Host 4
I thought it was also.
[17:45]
Big T
Was it all.
[17:46]
Macrodosing Host 1
Some of them last year?
[17:49]
Big T
Let's see. Last year? Yeah, AFC.
[17:55]
Macrodosing Host 4
Last year.
[17:55]
Big T
Yeah.
[17:56]
Macrodosing Host 1
They all run together.
[17:57]
Macrodosing Host 4
20, 25.
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Big T
That's right. That was. That was the one with the tush push. Did Josh make a first down? Yeah, I kind of blacked that one out of my mind because I was right. After the commanders got their ass kicked by the Eagles, I was in a bad mood. Yeah. So, McKenzie, your bills making a big change. Did you want McDermott gone?
[18:22]
Macrodosing Host 4
No, I don't think so, but I understand, like, why they had to do it. I think Bean should have been fired before him. But, like, obviously, like you said, if there's, like, they keep getting stuck like this, obviously some changes have to be made. But it sucks because now all the players are posting like they're all pissed about it now because they love Sean McDermott. So that sucks. But, yeah, it'll be interesting to see. Hopefully it makes a change.
[18:52]
Big T
Who do you want?
[18:54]
Macrodosing Host 4
I don't know, actually. People keep saying that they could just promote Joe Brady because he's been interviewing for head coaching jobs.
[19:01]
Big T
Yeah.
[19:02]
Macrodosing Host 4
And I think Josh and him have a good relationship. Who I really would want is Jon Gruden.
[19:11]
Big T
Okay.
[19:13]
Macrodosing Host 4
But, like, I just feel like Buffalo needs a good. It has to. This sounds so dumb. And again, I'm not claiming to be a ball knower, but, like, it has to be a good vibe fit. Like, it has to be like. I don't know who that would be, but I just felt like Sean McDermott, like, fit into the Buffalo vibe, which sounds so dumb, but it just has to be somebody that can, like, fit in. Well, obviously I don't.
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Big T
I wouldn't hate a guy like Jon Gruden because with a team like the Bills, they've got the talent, they've got the quarterback that can do it. I feel like you need a guy that's got a little edge to him. And McDermott. McDermott had no edge. Great guy. Really nice guy. You're on the rebound. You want a bad boy.
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Macrodosing Host 4
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. We just got broken up with.
[20:04]
Big T
Yeah.
[20:04]
Macrodosing Host 4
And we're. Yeah, we're rebounding.
[20:07]
Big T
Yeah. That was a tough loss. Did Brandon Cooks catch it?
[20:12]
Macrodosing Host 4
Yeah, I think so.
[20:14]
Big T
Aaron, what do you think on the interception?
[20:19]
Macrodosing Host 4
Because the same play happened last night.
[20:20]
Macrodosing Host 3
No.
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Big T
Not a catch.
[20:24]
Macrodosing Host 3
No, got. He got a rip from him. He didn't have possession. He didn't land with possession by the time the other cat had got his hands on it. Rage, bait, come down with a ball player.
[20:38]
Big T
The thing is, if. If they had both hung on to the ball, then it would have been a catch. Yeah.
[20:43]
Macrodosing Host 3
Not a pick. You got. You got it ripped. That's what it is. The thing secured a catch through you being down.
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Big T
Here's where the NFL loses me a little bit, is that I think by the letter of the law, after I've watched it enough and slowed it down and looked at every replay and read every line of the rulebook, I think it was an interception. However, when you watch it and if you had no idea what the NFL rulebook is, you would say it was a catch. And that's where the NFL sometimes gets into trouble. It's like they. They lose the plot a little bit because they have to get so granular with all the details about what is, what isn't a catch. How many feet count, how many knees count, when does possession occur? What is a football act that sometimes you just lose the vibe of. Yeah, that felt like a catch.
[21:31]
Macrodosing Host 3
And watch it in slow motion? No, he never had the. He never had the ball.
[21:35]
Big T
I think he did have the ball.
[21:36]
Macrodosing Host 4
He did.
[21:36]
Macrodosing Host 3
He did not have the ball.
[21:38]
Big T
I think he did when he went to the ground. And as he went to the ground, it got taken away from him.
[21:45]
Macrodosing Host 4
I think people are saying he was down with the ball before it was ripped.
[21:49]
Big T
But again, and that's where you get into the question of, like, when anybody. When does that count as having possession on the catch? Like, if you're.
[21:56]
Macrodosing Host 3
If you're in the air, you have to. You have to have it through contact, a ground contact. So you have, like, you. You have to sustain possession after you hit the ground.
[22:10]
Big T
Yeah. So the question have to becomes if. If that ball had gotten ripped out from him and ended up on the ground, would that have been a fumble or would that be incomplete? And I think the answer is it would have been incomplete. Incomplete, not a fumble. But based on the. Based on how it felt watching it. If you just don't have a rule book, if you're just, like, watching people play football and you've never written anything down, there's no referees, I would be more inclined to be like, that's a catch. But knowing the rule book and all this that they've gone through, evolving it and. And trying to write down everything to take out any dispute by those rules, I don't think it is a catch. And I Think that it is. It was ultimately the right call, even if they didn't take their time watching the replay. And I think if you think it's.
[22:55]
Macrodosing Host 3
A catch, you're a Bills fan.
[22:57]
Big T
It's a possibility. Yeah.
[22:58]
Macrodosing Host 3
And that's okay.
[22:59]
Big T
That's a possibility. So now, yeah, we got the Broncos, we got the Patriots, and then we got the, the Seahawks and the Rams. What do you think about the Bears, Aaron? What do you think about the Chicago Bears this year?
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Macrodosing Host 3
I think that was their fate because little times I've watched them this year they, they live there. They live in that making magic at the end of the game. And I think if you live there like you live by the gun, die by the gun, there's only so much magic you can have it at that level.
[23:33]
Big T
Yeah.
[23:33]
Macrodosing Host 3
But that being said, that motherfucking throw was amazing.
[23:38]
Big T
Yeah.
[23:39]
Macrodosing Host 3
Like that throw with the hold on the tight end was the titan that caught it in the back of the end zone. Yeah.
[23:44]
Macrodosing Host 1
Backup tight end.
[23:46]
Macrodosing Host 3
That shit was special, dog. I can't, I can't even, I can't even lie. I love the way he plays. I'll be honest. They have a bright future in Chicago. They got to build around him. And I'd be surprised if at the end of his career he don't have one or two.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Can I say something that was infuriating to me that I had. Maybe I just haven't been consuming enough. I've not seen a ton of discussion about this. They have a miracle of all miracles to get within a point with. How much time was left?
[24:15]
Big T
Like less than a minute.
[24:18]
Macrodosing Host 1
Oh, it was way less than a minute. It was not, not enough time for LA to really do anything.
[24:23]
Big T
Yeah.
[24:23]
Macrodosing Host 2
Most likely 14 seconds.
[24:25]
Big T
Yeah.
[24:27]
Macrodosing Host 1
And he had gone for it on fourth down three times and did not gotten it. If you, if you do all that, you go for two.
[24:36]
Big T
I agree.
[24:37]
Macrodosing Host 1
You, you just got a gift to give you a chance to win the game and you don't take it and.
[24:45]
Big T
Imagine the defense going back, you have to immediately line up and get a stop.
[24:49]
Macrodosing Host 2
Yeah.
[24:50]
Big T
After giving that playoff.
[24:51]
Macrodosing Host 1
I say this every time one of these situations comes up and a coach doesn't do it. If you're. You were three and a half point underdog going into the game. If I said to Ben Johnson, we can either play the game out and you see what happens. You win or lose or I'll give you one play from the two yard line. If you get it, you win. If you don't take that every single time, that. That's dumb.
[25:10]
Big T
Yeah. I think you, in the moment, we were all saying go for it. You should go for two right there and you can count on, you know, being able to execute one play for two yards. Now it did end up that the Bears got the ball back at overtime. They had a chance to win the game.
[25:25]
Macrodosing Host 1
Sure. But you, you also gave it to Matthew Stafford twice.
[25:28]
Big T
You did. Yeah. So that's kind of the, the, the calculation that you, that you take. But I agree, I think you go for two there. I think that you, you try to run one play. Now it does matter that Colson Loveland their, their number one tight end and he's been probably their best receiving threat in the last couple games. He was out, he had a concussion. So you're minus that guy and you had just been stopped on a goal line stand previously, so maybe he wasn't super confident. But yeah, I think that if, if you give up that play to Caleb Williams where he's drifting back to the 40 yard line and he throws a ball over his head into the end zone and you give up a touchdown on what could have been a walk off play essentially for the Rams, the Rams are going to be so down and so pissed off that it's going to be hard for them to line up and I think focus and get one stop.
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Macrodosing Host 1
I agree. I think you go for that 10 times out of 10.
[26:21]
Big T
Yeah, I agree with that. So it sucks that the Bears are out, but we got the Rams, Seahawks, which is going to be an awesome game, I think.
[26:27]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah.
[26:28]
Macrodosing Host 3
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[26:34]
Big T
Oh, what a shot.
[26:35]
Macrodosing Host 3
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Big T
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Macrodosing Host 3
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Big T
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Macrodosing Host 1
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Macrodosing Host 3
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Big T
Oh my goodness.
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Macrodosing Host 3
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[26:57]
Big T
Plus they know each other pretty well. Oh, Mackenzie, I do have to ask you about your tweet.
[27:02]
Macrodosing Host 4
Oh, yeah, I figured we got to.
[27:04]
Big T
Talk about the tweet. Yeah, well, there's actually two tweets that made me laugh over the weekend. One was when you went in on Jean Ster. Holy thoughts and prayers to Jean Ster.
[27:15]
Macrodosing Host 4
He's not going to recover from that.
[27:16]
Big T
Because McKenzie took him behind the woodshed on Saturday. And when I saw it, I was just, I was imagining you watching the game and, and firing that tweet off and it made me laugh.
[27:28]
Macrodosing Host 4
No, somebody said it at the bar and I just was like, yeah, Fuck that guy. And then just decide to tweet it, Obviously, for whatever reason. In my head, I thought I needed to.
[27:38]
Big T
Yeah, no, it was. It was. I thought it was fine. I thought it was.
[27:41]
Macrodosing Host 4
I think I spelled his name wrong, too, so apologies for that.
[27:43]
Big T
I thought it was a perfectly fine thing for you to tweet in real time. First of all, you said you shut the up. I assume that was.
[27:52]
Macrodosing Host 4
That was just after the game.
[27:53]
Big T
Okay.
[27:54]
Macrodosing Host 4
In general, to everybody.
[27:55]
Big T
And then the second thing was jeans. Gene Sarator. Shut the fuck up, you loser.
[28:02]
Macrodosing Host 4
Yeah.
[28:03]
Big T
Which I really enjoyed. So why were you so pissed off at Gene Serrator?
[28:07]
Macrodosing Host 4
No, it was just, like, every time they would cut back to him and he does this like. Well, Jim, you see here? And I was like, just shut up, dude. Nobody cares. Yeah, nobody cares right now. This is not the time. I know it's your job. I'm so sorry, but he was just getting under my skin in that moment.
[28:22]
Big T
Yeah. When things aren't going well for you, the last thing you need is for them to bring in some other guy.
[28:27]
Macrodosing Host 4
Exactly.
[28:27]
Big T
To explain to you how that. How upset that you should be.
[28:32]
Macrodosing Host 4
Yeah. How you're already losing the game.
[28:33]
Big T
Yeah.
[28:34]
Macrodosing Host 4
You've lost now.
[28:34]
Big T
And then. And then the other one. This one went viral. This one escaped containment a little bit. It did, but it's. It's a conversation. We can have a conversation. All right. So after the Bills lost, Josh Allen was. He was upset, and he went to the podium. He was crying a little bit. He was disappointed with the way the season ended. Disappointed that he didn't play his best game. It was a raw, emotional moment for him, and I would never get on a guy for doing that. Like, if you cry because you lose in the playoffs, it's because you cared that much. And that's the kind of guy that you want playing for your team.
[29:07]
Macrodosing Host 3
Right.
[29:07]
Big T
It's a guy that's just like, fuck it, and doesn't care. That as a fan, you're like, well, this guy doesn't really care. Why should I care? So Josh, after the game, wept a little bit at the podium. And then McKenzie. Yeah, he wept.
[29:21]
Macrodosing Host 4
He was.
[29:22]
Macrodosing Host 2
It was a weep.
[29:23]
Big T
It was a weep. You can watch it. And it was. It was. He was bawling a little bit.
[29:26]
Macrodosing Host 4
Men cry, too.
[29:27]
Macrodosing Host 2
Yeah.
[29:28]
Big T
So McKenzie said, I'd rather die with no Super Bowls with Josh Allen as my quarterback than ever win a Super bowl. Which is. It's quite a take.
[29:37]
Macrodosing Host 1
No, I've been here. I've been here.
[29:40]
Macrodosing Host 4
What. What was yours?
[29:42]
Macrodosing Host 1
Well, in 2020 when the Tennessee football program was, like, one step away from being completely dead, and we, like, the whole. The coach hiring had gone terribly and whatever. I was like, just hire Jerrod Mayo. Like, at least somebody that we know cares. Like, I don't even care if we win. Just give me somebody that I know gives a shit. Like, I. You know, I've been. I know what you're saying.
[30:06]
Macrodosing Host 4
That was exactly my thought process. I might have not worded it correctly after being upset after the game. And also, I had a couple beverages. Is a girl not allowed to. And I might have. I did not word it correctly, but that was essentially my take. Like, I just couldn't imagine even. It's like, I was thinking about it today. It's like, when you're. When you're, like, going through a breakup, it's. You still remember all the good times, even though the ending wasn't how you wanted it to be. Like, I just couldn't even imagine going through all of what we have in the past however many years without Josh Allen, even though it's never ended the way they wanted it to. It's sort of like, you remember the happy moments, and I just can't imagine him not being the quarterback of the Bills.
[30:56]
Macrodosing Host 2
There's love.
[30:56]
Macrodosing Host 4
Like, I'd be so jealous of any other team that had him as a quarterback. And that doesn't mean I don't ever want the Bills to win a Super Bowl. I think that's kind of what my tweet was getting at. Like, I love Josh Allen more than the Bills, which maybe I do. Maybe I've been hiding that for however long, but that was my sentiment. Like, Big T said. Like, I just. I. Like, we have. They have Josh Allen. Like, that's incredible. And it's been an incredible couple of years, even though. And I also thought about what Arian said a couple weeks ago with Jerry. Like, there's only one team that wins the super bowl every year. Like, for you to be upset at the team or the coach for just making the playoffs every year, obviously it sucks if they can ever win the big one. But getting that far, like, means. Still means a lot. It doesn't mean nothing. So I think it's like, I don't know. That was my sentiment, if that makes sense at all, how I just explained it. But I think also, Big T explained it really well. It's just like, I just love Josh Allen so much, no matter what, no matter what he does for the team. And he's already done enough.
[32:05]
Macrodosing Host 3
I knew Aaron, Josh Allen no matter what.
[32:08]
Macrodosing Host 4
Exactly.
[32:09]
Big T
Yeah.
[32:10]
Macrodosing Host 4
It's like draft day.
[32:12]
Big T
Aaron, what do you think about that? Take that. That MacKenzie would rather have Josh Allen as their quarterback, not win a Super bowl than win a Super bowl without Josh Allen.
[32:25]
Macrodosing Host 3
It sounds like a fan of Josh Allen and not the Buffalo Bill.
[32:28]
Macrodosing Host 4
Yeah, that's what people are saying, but I guess that's true. I'll admit it.
[32:30]
Big T
But I do get the. I get the emotional state after the game. That was your way of saying, thank you, Josh, for caring so much. I care about. I care about you, too, Josh.
[32:39]
Macrodosing Host 4
Yes, he.
[32:40]
Big T
Yeah, but here's the question. Would. Does Josh Allen care about the Bills enough to, like, leave the Bills and let them win a Super Bowl? Which would he prefer? That is the true test of how. How good of a quarterback he is.
[32:55]
Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah, that would be a. That'd be a funny question to ask somebody.
[32:59]
Big T
Yeah, same. Do you care more about yourself or about the team? And then if you say that you would much rather the team win a Super bowl without you, then it turns out that you are the guy who can lead them to a Super Bowl.
[33:12]
Macrodosing Host 3
That would be a hilarious question to ask a quarterback. Dog has to do that.
[33:15]
Big T
I'll put that in my files.
[33:16]
Macrodosing Host 4
Yeah, but the problem is, like, that's not the issue. Like, if Josh Allen left the Bills, like, they'd be in last place next season. Like, there's just no way around it. So that's why I had that take of, like, he was so sad. I felt so bad. We wouldn't even be in the playoffs without him. Sorry. I said we. I did my thing. They wouldn't be in the playoffs. But that was sort of. That was sort of my take into where it was coming from and that. He's just like. He's so Buffalo, and he's really done so much for the franchise.
[33:50]
Big T
He has. Yeah. Next time we interview Josh, I will ask him that question 40 McKenzie.
[33:54]
Macrodosing Host 4
Okay.
[33:54]
Big T
And I'll preface it with your. With your tweet as a. As a thought starter for.
[33:58]
Macrodosing Host 4
He's gonna be like, she's psych.
[34:01]
Big T
Okay. No, but I mean, this. That's what fans are.
[34:03]
Macrodosing Host 2
Yeah.
[34:04]
Macrodosing Host 4
No, it's true. Somebody was like, quote, tweeted it and said, like, Bill's fandom is a mental illness. And I was like, no, you're right.
[34:10]
Macrodosing Host 2
It is.
[34:10]
Macrodosing Host 4
Like, we believe every year they can do it, and they don't. But we still believe it every year as fans.
[34:17]
Big T
Yeah.
[34:18]
Macrodosing Host 4
So it really is. It could. It's. It is a little bit of a mental illness, Aaron.
[34:22]
Big T
I Asked. I asked Caleb Williams if there was a button that he could press that would kill a random Bears fan, but it would mean that the Bears would win a Super bowl if he would do it.
[34:32]
Macrodosing Host 1
And he.
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Big T
He was on camera and, like, the team PR people around him. So he didn't want to say it out loud, but he just started pressing an imaginary button. I think. I think that's the right mentality to have. I think it's like, yeah, you gotta. And I'm telling you, there would be a line of Bears fans that would. That would volunteer.
[34:53]
Macrodosing Host 3
Yo, that's insanity.
[34:56]
Big T
You get a statue built like, yeah, I'm the guy that died so that you guys could have a Super Bowl.
[35:01]
Macrodosing Host 3
Would. Would Big Cat?
[35:03]
Big T
Yeah, I think so.
[35:04]
Macrodosing Host 4
Didn't he say that to Khalil Mack? I think when you guys interviewed him.
[35:08]
Big T
He might have said it to Caleb.
[35:10]
Macrodosing Host 4
Yeah, there was a clip that was reposted recently of him reading his own tweets to a player.
[35:14]
Big T
Yeah.
[35:14]
Macrodosing Host 4
And one of them was that.
[35:16]
Big T
I think. Yeah, I think Big Cat was like, yeah, you can kill me and that'll be fine, because, yeah, you'd be. You'd be a legend. What does Braveheart say? Every man dies. Not every man truly lives. That would be. It'll be truly living for a city.
[35:30]
Macrodosing Host 3
Drake also said that.
[35:32]
Big T
Oh, did he?
[35:34]
Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah. And everybody died, but not everybody lives.
[35:39]
Big T
Yeah, that's. That's word for word. Bar for bar. Mel Gibson with Nicki Minaj.
[35:44]
Macrodosing Host 3
I wish I can handle moment for life.
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Big T
What I was. What I was going to say to Caleb when he was, like, a random Bears fan, I was going to be like, after he pushed the button, I was going to be like, you just killed Obama.
[36:00]
Macrodosing Host 3
That's crazy. That's crazy.
[36:03]
Big T
Or the Pope. You just killed the Pope. Do you want to take that back? And then if you said, no, the Pope was watching.
[36:13]
Macrodosing Host 4
Yes, 100%.
[36:14]
Macrodosing Host 1
And what time was it in Rome?
[36:16]
Macrodosing Host 4
I think someone said 3:30 in the morning.
[36:19]
Big T
The Pope was watching.
[36:20]
Macrodosing Host 2
That would make sense.
[36:21]
Big T
Yeah. You better believe the Pope was watching. Big T, I got a. I got a baseball question for you.
[36:26]
Macrodosing Host 1
I would love that. Is it time to start ramping up?
[36:29]
Big T
Is it time to disband the Los Angeles Dodgers?
[36:34]
Macrodosing Host 1
Dis. No. I mean, there needs to be some sort of reform to. To fix what they're doing.
[36:41]
Big T
What are they doing for the people out there that might not be?
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Macrodosing Host 1
I mean, they just. They have a TV deal that's $100 million a year more than everybody else, and they go sign every single good free agent that there's ever been. And by the way, get ready, because if they don't trade for Tarek School this off season, they're getting him next year. So just be prepared for that. Yeah, I mean, and the deferrals, which they didn't do as much with Kyle Tucker, but Shohei Ohtani, they're paying on average $70 million a year. I think he's getting like 10. And then in 2050, he gets $60 million a year or something. That simply can't be allowed.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 1
And if you're not going to have a salary cap, which I'm fine with, the luxury tax needs to be more punitive or something. I mean, we got a. Some sort of socialism needs to be implemented to make sure that this, this can't keep happening. Flip that Specifically in regards to Major League Baseball. Pool, the television money.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Hey, I'm for the greater good, man with you, brother.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Only in instances where we need, like, competitive parody. I mean, baseball is a weird sport. Like they might not win it, but if they go three in a row and then they add school next year, it's. It's a bit ridiculous.
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Big T
Yeah, it is an imperfect system that they have in baseball right now where there's no salary cap, which is great for the players, but it's not great for league wide competition. And the players union is going to fight any effort to put a salary cap in, which that's kind of the job of the union. Now, if it comes with a very high salary floor, then that could be something that, you know, depending on what the actual numbers are, it could be something that the union could listen to. But the way that it stands right now, the Dodgers are just able to buy any good player now. They kind of did. It's not like this is a brand new thing for the Dodgers. They've already got a great lineup even before they added Kyle Tucker on Thursday night and the Blue Jays took him to seven games. Blue Jays very could have easily won that World Series against the Dodgers. And it would have been so cool if they had. How awesome would that be if like the Dodgers, that is really what America should be rooting for. Just Dodgers keep spending all the money that you can get every good player in baseball, and then somehow lose the World Series. That would be wonderful, wouldn't it? I think we all, we could all get behind that. But it looks right now on paper like they have an unbeatable lineup now. Things happen. Injuries, bad luck, all that stuff is real. And in baseball, it does make a difference, especially when you take a 162 game long regular season and you distill it down to a five game or a seven game series, weird stuff can happen. But it does seem like on paper they have an unbeatable offensive lineup and they've got great pitching too. So it's kind of a bummer for every, every fan of a smaller market team that has absolutely no chance of competing against this. The fact that they feel like they go into every season without a chance to do anything does feel like it's bad for the future of baseball.
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Macrodosing Host 1
The Dodgers estimated luxury tax bill in 2026 is $162 million, which is more than 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 teams, entire payroll.
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Big T
Right.
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Macrodosing Host 1
And that's how much they're paying for the ability to pay their players. More than the threshold of what you're supposed to be is.
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Big T
That's the other side of this coin is there are a shitload of teams who also don't try to compete because they, they know they can make money off the TV deal even if they don't have a competitive lineup and they're not paying anybody. So while the Dodgers are being, it sucks that they're so aggressive that they're getting every talented player. It also sucks if you're a fan of the Pirates and if you're a fan of the Royals and teams like that and you've got an owner that will not pay players or the Athletics, an owner that won't pay players anything. They'll still make money. You're not going to be competitive. That's, that's their fault as well for doing that. And so I feel like we're going towards a lockout. What do you think, Big T?
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Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah. There will almost certainly be a lockout next year. It's a matter of how long and how severe.
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Big T
We've got like three weeks until pitchers and catchers report for this year. Yeah. And then after this entire year in baseball is the main storyline is going to be the impending lockout.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah. We need the Dodgers to not win it because if they win three in a row, and I mean like losing the season, next year is on the table, which would I. That'd be devastating.
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Big T
Is this the, the last season of Major League Baseball ever?
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Macrodosing Host 1
No. For a couple seasons. It's entirely possible.
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Big T
You think a couple seasons, you think?
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Macrodosing Host 1
Well, well if you go from the end of 26 to the beginning of 28.
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Big T
So you think we're going to miss the entire 2027.
[41:53]
Macrodosing Host 1
I don't think that will happen, but it's possible.
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Big T
If you were commissioner, Major League Baseball. Sorry to steal this question from a rod. He asked this, and I think every interview he's ever done, your commissioner baseball, what do you do for a day.
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Macrodosing Host 1
In regards to this or just overall?
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Big T
In regards to this, I think the.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Deferrals have to be fixed. You can't be pay. If you want to pay a guy 70 million, great. You have to pay him 70 million.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 1
You can't. And maybe there's. You get a certain amount of money you can defer each year and after that it's. It's capped. I think you do. If you're going to have a hard salary cap, which I'm not necessarily in favor of and you couldn't implement instantaneously anyway, I think you have one to four or five. So let's call it three. Three uncapped spots per team.
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Big T
Okay.
[42:46]
Macrodosing Host 1
So theoretically, the top 90 players in baseball would be dispersed amongst all 30 teams. Hypothetically. Because that's where they could make the most money.
[42:57]
Big T
Yeah.
[42:58]
Macrodosing Host 1
So if Kyle Tucker. The Dodgers would have used their three spots by now. So if Kyle Tucker wants to make $60 million, he has to go to the Diamondbacks or somebody. I don't know.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Okay.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Or you can go play for the Dodgers, but you're going to be making 27 million instead of 60.
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Big T
I haven't heard of that. I kind of like it.
[43:18]
Macrodosing Host 1
Thank you.
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Big T
I kind of like that. The NBA has had some success with that.
[43:23]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah. NBA has something similar.
[43:24]
Big T
The supermax.
[43:25]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah.
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Big T
Yeah. And that's more about like keeping the talent that you have.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Right.
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Big T
Than really going out and getting a free agent. But they're. I think it still stands that if you were to say that for the top, you know, top. You said three players.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah. 2, 3, 4, whatever the number is.
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Big T
Yeah. I'm trying to think how the teams that don't spend money, how they would react to that.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Like the Pirates, I mean, you don't have to use it, I guess.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 1
But if you are the Pirates and you decide, and you know your highest paid player is making $7 million or whatever, and you decide one year, like, you know, we'd like to go after Kyle Tucker, like, hey, here's $50 million.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Or when you're going to have to pay Paul Skeens, that gives you an end to do that as opposed to we have to trade this guy because there's no way we're going to be able to pay him.
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Big T
Mm. Just a little bit of breaking news. Here, I'm going to give you one guess. I saw I was on X.com, the everything app. It's all happening on X in today's news. There's a little sidebar that you have on the app. It says today's news and it gives you three headlines about things that you're, I guess, interested in, in theory, based on your algorithm. And then you click that to see all the tweets about that particular piece of news. I'm gonna read the headline to you, big T. Okay. And I want to see if you can fathom a guess as to who this headline is talking about.
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Macrodosing Host 1
So I actually just went and did. I'm looking at my today's news as well, and I have one and I'm very curious if it's what you're gonna say.
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Big T
Okay, here's the headline. You guess who it's about. Sports Journalist sets up sun with Betting App draws Backlash.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Believe it or not, I have that on mine as well. And I did see those tweets this morning.
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Big T
And I did not see the tweets this morning. But based on the headline, I took a wild stab at who I thought it might have been. Talking about Darren Revelle. Somehow I was right. I was. I was correct about this one.
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Macrodosing Host 1
So you didn't see this?
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Big T
No, I haven't seen this. Revel.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Pretty Incredible.
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Big T
Signed his 11 year old son up to play a free to play sports betting app. I'm not going to plug who it is. And the image that he cropped and put along with this was Giannis Atetunko. I butchered that. Giannis atetokounmpo to scratch his nuts. Must be shown on live tv.
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Macrodosing Host 1
By the way, zoom in on that picture of him. Do you know what he's holding?
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Big T
No.
[45:56]
Macrodosing Host 1
Zoom in the picture of Giannis that accompanies the bet on this app.
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Big T
Oh, it's. It's him holding his bell that says ring for blowjob that his wife gave him. Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Ravel'S tweet says 11 year old son wanted to bet. So instead of saying no, which is not the answer, I set him up with a free to play app. I've been monitoring his quote bets and talking to him about his losses. Looked on app today to find this and then it shows the picture. I odds should be at least 20x on that.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Why is no the not?
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Macrodosing Host 1
Thank you for saying that. Someone asked that in the comments. Genuinely asking. But why isn't no the answer? Why can't you say you have to be 18 to gamble like the commercials? And ads etc. Say Darren Revell because he's going to face it whether I monitor it or not. The ads don't control these kids. Parenting isn't about saying no.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Here we I'm going to be honest, I don't really understand that reasoning.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Someone else asked or said my kid wants to drink beer so I've been giving her athletic non alcoholic beer so she can learn to binge drink like a champ in high school. He said no, you have her first drink in front of you and talk to her about drinking.
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Macrodosing Host 2
I'm so confused.
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Macrodosing Host 1
This is a such a freak.
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Macrodosing Host 4
Imagine he's your dad, like shut up.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Brings out his, his collection of Martin Luther.
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Big T
Oh yeah. Huge day for Ravel.
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Macrodosing Host 4
Yeah.
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Big T
I think that no is absolutely an answer that you can say.
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Macrodosing Host 4
What would you say to Chris?
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Big T
I would say, I would say let's, let's get you started. Let's run your march bandis pool at daycare. Yeah, yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 4
That's a good start.
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Big T
You should be the bookie. Yes, not the better. That's what I would tell Chris.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Oh, here's one more. Someone said if your 11 year old son wants to bet, saying no is 1000% unequivocally the answer. And Ravel said then he goes and does it anyway. Just like everything can tell you aren't a parent. It sounds like this guy just might have control of not have control of his child.
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Macrodosing Host 4
Right?
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Your kid just sucks.
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Big T
And it is a real thing that your, your children will be exposed to sports gambling. But I think that's part of your job as a parent to explain to them what is and is not a good idea as you get older.
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Macrodosing Host 1
First banger I've ever seen from this account we in response to Then he goes and does it anyway. Can tell you aren't a parent. Neither clearly are you. Said Keith Olbermann. First, first good tweet. And Keith Olbermann's career. Congratulations. Keith.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Can I also ask something? And again I'm not a parent. How many 11 year olds are dipping their toe into the sports gambling world? I've never heard of that. Like is, is that something plaguing elementary schools?
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Big T
Well, if you watch sports, you do, you are exposed to gambling.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Like growing up my dad, the notion of gambling, like growing up my dad before, like DraftKings and everything would be like okay Madeline, we want this team to win by seven. And again I understand that ads are everywhere now but I do think that there still is like a lack of full comprehension at that age. Maybe I'm Just not hip to 11 year olds at this point.
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Macrodosing Host 1
No, he's 11. You're correct.
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Macrodosing Host 2
I'm correct, yes.
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Macrodosing Host 1
It's an 11 year old.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 1
There's a reason we don't let them vote or drive or drink or get tattoos.
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Macrodosing Host 2
I also think, yeah, my, my parents would have never been like, oh, well, we'll just give you a substitute for the time being.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Like, I wasn't drinking grape juice with my parents while they were drinking red wine at dinner. You know what I mean?
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Big T
Yeah. So I mean, if we're gonna make the alcohol analogy, there are some countries, like Ireland, for example, in Ireland, kids are having a half beer or a little bit of wine with dinner when they're like 15 years old. And the binge drinking culture there is significantly, I think it's less as you get into the 18 to 22 range. Whereas in America it's been kept away from you for so long, it's a taboo. So the second you go off to college or you move out of your house, it becomes like the most fun thing to do. And a lot of kids end up getting themselves in trouble for that. So I think there is something to say about like teaching your kids moderation. Now when it comes to sports, gambling and an 11 year old, they should not be gambling on sports. I think that's.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Or on Giannis to.
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Big T
To scratch his scratches.
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Macrodosing Host 2
Nuts.
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Big T
Yeah. Yeah. Specifically credit to Ravel. He makes a good point though, that the odds should be way higher. Like that's a sucker's bet that they've got right now. You got to teach your kids about the sucker bets.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Only 5 to 1.
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Big T
5 to 1 is a bad deal. They're stealing. I guess it's free to play. So I don't know if they're stealing M. They're stealing credits from you.
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Macrodosing Host 1
He's. He's just going. I'm in his replies right now. He's just going to people saying, you clearly don't have kids. Like this is a normal thing to do.
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Big T
Hey, this is PFT from part of my take. A terrible call by the refs. A back breaking interception in the red zone. Brutal clock management. At the end of a half, when the season has you ready to snap, don't break. Snap into a Slim Jim instead. Slim Jim is not just a meat stick. It's the OG Slim Jim is the bold spicy snack that snaps back. No fumbles, no bad calls, just bold flavor that can never be sidelined. So if your team has you feeling like you're ready to snap, call a Timeout and snap into a Slim Jim. We've got some other news in football right now. ZACH Charbonnet towards ACL against the 49ers.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Really?
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Big T
So it's. It's Kenneth Walker time.
[52:05]
Macrodosing Host 1
It was Kenneth Walker time the other day.
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Big T
Yeah, he played really well. That's. That's a tough, tough injury for the Seahawks, who looked like the best team in football, but I guess they look like the best team in football without a lot of Zach Charbonnet. Yeah. So, yeah, Niners out.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Quick thought on that game because I didn't watch a ton of it. It was over immediately. If you're the ref on an opening kickoff return touchdown in a home playoff game and the penalty you're throwing a flag for is an attempted trip that you've already seen, had no impact on the play and he was going to score you. You cannot throw that flag because it marred the moment.
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Big T
We all waited to see what the penalty was. Okay, that's interesting. I thought that the ref, if you watch how he throws the flag and the stare down that he gives the kicker afterwards, he was pissed at the kicker. He threw it right at him and then just gave him this glare like a parent, like, what are you doing out there, son? That's not. That's not football. That ref was heated at the. At Pinero's slide tackle.
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Macrodosing Host 1
I mean, it's a. It's a dangerous play, but once you've seen that Shahid got over it and he's going to score, you can't throw it.
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Big T
Why. Why are slide tackles illegal in football?
[53:22]
Macrodosing Host 1
I guess it's dangerous. Take you out.
[53:24]
Big T
Yeah. I mean, football, the idea is to hit somebody as hard as you can.
[53:29]
Macrodosing Host 1
Sure.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Organized chaos.
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Big T
Yeah. I think kickers should be allowed to slide tackle.
[53:36]
Macrodosing Host 3
I think there should be no kickers.
[53:38]
Big T
Yeah, no kickers. All the yards and receiving should supersede the quarterback's passing yards.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Still ain't heard a good argument.
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Macrodosing Host 1
I'm telling you, you should make this sport.
[53:49]
Macrodosing Host 3
It's all that good. Saw that good. Get a little traction.
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Big T
Yeah. People were really mad about it.
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Macrodosing Host 3
With no arguments. They have no arguments.
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Big T
My favorite was the guy that says Arian Foster doesn't understand football.
[54:03]
Macrodosing Host 3
There's a lot of those guys out there. Again, that is a logical fallacy. Bunch of ad hominems I seen throwing shots at me, throwing shit. But you didn't attack the argument. Attack the argument. Why should quarterbacks get yards?
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Big T
I think we should actually go the opposite direction. Why do running backs get all the credit for. For rushing yards when the quarterback hands them the ball perfectly.
[54:29]
Macrodosing Host 1
I mean, offensive linemen should get credit with this.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 3
With the, with the logic. Quarterback should get those yards that the running backs get too.
[54:38]
Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 3
You gave him the ball.
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Big T
You gave him the ball. It was a great handoff. Or if, if the ball goes like perfectly sideways on a toss, that should be a passing yard or a rushing yard for the quarterback too. Hand off assists.
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Macrodosing Host 3
I think quarterbacks, you just get all the positive stats. So anything good that happens to the team, that's quarterback stat. Yep.
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Big T
Points.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Quarterback points wins. If the kicker kicks the ball, quarterback gets those points. If he drove him down there.
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Big T
If a receiver gets to the hall of Fame, the quarterback should actually have to be in the hall of Fame first.
[55:10]
Macrodosing Host 3
The quarterback should get a patch on his hall of Fame jacket.
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Big T
Yeah. Or no, I think like Calvin Johnson can't get to the hall of Fame until Dan Orlovsky gets in.
[55:21]
Macrodosing Host 1
I was actually just thinking about those two people.
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Big T
Yeah.
[55:23]
Macrodosing Host 1
Because I was thinking about how many receivers have gotten into the hall of Fame without good quarterbacks. And he immediately came to mind.
[55:31]
Macrodosing Host 3
I play, I played with the. With the biggest one of all time, Andre Johnson.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Hall of Famer with no, with damn near no Pro bowl quarterbacks. I think he had one. I think shot made.
[55:42]
Macrodosing Host 1
He had a solid okay quarterback.
[55:45]
Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah. I think shot made a Pro bowl one year.
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Big T
Other than that, my favorite reactions to your. Your yards after catch rant was people saying, damn, this guy really hates Matt Schaub.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Did they really?
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Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah, or I guess Calvin Johnson had Matt Stafford.
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Big T
He had Matt Stafford for a little bit.
[56:02]
Macrodosing Host 1
So he did have a Hall of Fame quarterback. He.
[56:04]
Big T
Did.
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Macrodosing Host 3
He get MVP this year, huh?
[56:08]
Big T
Maybe.
[56:09]
Macrodosing Host 1
It seems like it, yeah. Could be Drake may if they win the Super Bowl. Where is Matt Stafford? All time in quarterback, two Super Bowls.
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Big T
League mvp, a million passing yards. I would say you.
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Macrodosing Host 3
You'd probably not.
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Big T
Top five, Top ten.
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Macrodosing Host 1
I don't know, man. He's gonna be up there.
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Big T
Top 10, though.
[56:32]
Macrodosing Host 3
No, I. I go by talent level. I don't go by all the. The fluff.
[56:36]
Macrodosing Host 1
Do you know how many yards he's thrown for? If you just had to guess.
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Big T
Infinity. No idea.
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Macrodosing Host 1
64,000.
[56:43]
Big T
Yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 3
It's crazy seeing him still play. I trained with him coming out of the combine.
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Macrodosing Host 1
We.
[56:49]
Macrodosing Host 3
We were at API in Arizona and it was me, me and him. That's just crazy. This life thing is just moving.
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Big T
I do think that he is underrated. One of the most talented guys like you talk about. I know you always say Aaron Rodgers the most Talented quarterback to ever play. I. I think I do say that. I think I would agree with that, that he's the most talented. Yeah. But Matt Stafford, because he's. He's never been like, hyper mobile.
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Macrodosing Host 3
List out your top five. You say he top five. Listen, give me, Give me your top five.
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Big T
I didn't say. I said top ten.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Oh, you said top ten. Okay.
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Big T
But yeah, my top five. Off the top of my head, top five. Brady Rogers, in whatever order you want them. Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes. Okay.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Okay.
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Big T
Then I think I would have to go with probably Joe Montana.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Solid list.
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Big T
I think that would be my most talented guys.
[57:55]
Macrodosing Host 3
I would. I would throw Dan Marino in there.
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Big T
Yeah, Marino, he's. He's definitely in that conversation.
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Macrodosing Host 3
That was cold, man.
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Big T
What about you, Big T?
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Macrodosing Host 1
I mean, I can only go off guys I've watched, which would go, Brady, Mahomes, Manning, Rogers, and then I would put, like, I didn't see enough of Brett Favre in Green Bay. Maybe Drew Brees fifth.
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Big T
He's a really good player.
[58:32]
Macrodosing Host 1
And then right after that, I would.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Have, like, a really good player.
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Big T
He was. I mean, when you say, like, most talented, he didn't have, like, the crazy elite arm strength, I don't think.
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Macrodosing Host 1
I mean, he's kind of a. Stafford, like, he just never stopped throwing for a ton of yards.
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Big T
Yeah, Stafford had. He has had the arm strength, though. I mean, Josh Allen, I think is in the conversation, putting him in the conversation right now. But yeah, I would say Matt Stafford, he become top John Elway. Oh, yeah.
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Macrodosing Host 3
This is why I don't think I could do top 10. Like, there's just so many, like, I don't know.
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Big T
Good point. I think I would put John Elway ahead of Montana in terms of most talented.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah, John Elway, people forget, like, so his super bowl runs, he was very good. But you forget, like, the early 90s, late 80s. John Elliott was crazy, crazy good.
[59:32]
Big T
You know what else is crazy is John Elway. His entire career, he had no ACL in his left knee.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah, that's wild.
[59:43]
Big T
He tore his ACL in high school, never got it fixed. And he went on to be, like, one of the best mobile quarterbacks of all time with no ACL.
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Macrodosing Host 3
Kids nowadays, they just everything. IPads and ACLs, everything you think you need. Everything.
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Big T
Yep. Spoiled, entitled. What else we got to talk about today, Big T? What else? Oh, Daylight savings time.
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Macrodosing Host 1
We do this every year. It seems they're talking about making it permanent again.
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Big T
Yeah. So Congress is considering making daylight savings time year round. And there Are some arguments for it. And there's some. The more, you know what this is, the sign I'm becoming ankh is the older I get, the less. Keeping daylight savings time permanent sounds like a good idea. Because people don't talk about the downside to it, which is that in the wintertime, in the morning it's going to be dark until 9am Can I present a counter? Yeah.
[60:45]
Macrodosing Host 1
In the evening, in the winter here it's dark at 3:45, which sucks.
[60:49]
Big T
Yes.
[60:50]
Macrodosing Host 1
I mean, pick your poison.
[60:52]
Big T
Yeah. And that's where you get into the conversation about like safety. If it's dark in the morning time, I think that leads to more accidents and more people getting hurt and dying than if it's dark in the evening.
[61:06]
Macrodosing Host 1
Why?
[61:07]
Big T
Because people are just waking up. And so you got kids like walking to school. You've got, you know, pedestrians everywhere in the dark.
[61:17]
Macrodosing Host 1
Okay. As opposed. I think it's fine. I'll see you.
[61:22]
Big T
That, that's, that's really the only point that I can think of is like kids walking to school. Pitch dark.
[61:28]
Macrodosing Host 1
How many kids are walking to school these days?
[61:30]
Big T
I think a lot of kids walk to school.
[61:34]
Macrodosing Host 1
Certainly there would be more people walking in the morning than the evening.
[61:38]
Big T
Yeah, but that's how.
[61:40]
Macrodosing Host 3
It's crazy to think when we grew up, Eric, how normal that was. Yep. Like I was what, five, six, walking to school like it was nothing. I'm not sending my 5 year old out to walk to school now. I just can't do it. I don't know.
[61:56]
Macrodosing Host 1
How far did you live from school?
[61:59]
Macrodosing Host 3
I was like a couple blocks over. But still. That's crazy.
[62:03]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah. I would never do that.
[62:04]
Macrodosing Host 3
My five year old, six year old, seven year old. No. No.
[62:10]
Big T
Yeah.
[62:12]
Macrodosing Host 1
Would you let him bet on a free to play gambling app? They're gonna do it anyway.
[62:19]
Macrodosing Host 3
I think I would.
[62:20]
Big T
I think I would.
[62:21]
Macrodosing Host 1
Really?
[62:22]
Macrodosing Host 3
Because this is why though, I'm not a gambler. And so with my dad, my grandma, my grandpa and my dad taught me like real young. Like, like gambling is a part of life. Like people go to casinos, you know, whatever case may be. And like you gotta know when to get out. Like. And so it was never a big deal if I lost something. Like y' all seen me gamble before. Like I'm not like really into it like that. I'll do it while I'm there, but I'm never gonna gamble to rent money. So like, I think it's important to teach kids what's out there is, you know, gamble something insignificant. Yeah. Don't get an app, though, maybe not.
[62:57]
Big T
The app, but like limits introducing them.
[62:59]
Macrodosing Host 3
To the notion of gambling. You know, you, you, you put up something, you may, you may lose something, you may get something. That's, that's, that's the world, you know, you can't, you can't shield your kids from, from the world forever. You made a good point earlier. I was reading something, but you made a good point earlier with the, with the drinking thing. I seen a lot of cats in college, especially when they got to college, they went crazy because they had never been around it, I had already been around it. So like it was not that big a deal to me, but like they couldn't handle it. It was too much. And so I think if you introduce it to them in a responsible way. My 16 year old, she had a drink around me before. She doesn't even want to drink, but I made her have a drink around me so that she knows what it feels like. She knows her limits, she knows all of that stuff. So she's comfortable. She did it in a comfortable setting. I'd rather have it at my house rather than your first time drinking is at some party and you don't trust who you with. Hell no.
[63:59]
Big T
Yeah, yeah. Teach them how to handle it.
[64:01]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah, I think that's reasonable as a, you know, junior in high school or whatever, 11 year old being like, well, he's going to do it anyway.
[64:08]
Big T
Yeah, yeah, that's a bit much.
[64:11]
Macrodosing Host 3
It's a little, it's a little early for the, for the gambling.
[64:13]
Big T
So. Yeah, big T. I agree that when you leave work in the wintertime here in Chicago and it's dark outside, that sucks. But also be nice to have some light. Ultimately, I think I fall firmly into the camp of I don't care. Put the. Just tell me what time it is.
[64:30]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah, I just prefer for it to be one time always.
[64:33]
Big T
Yeah. Yeah. When are we springing forward this year?
[64:37]
Macrodosing Host 1
I think I saw March 8th.
[64:38]
Big T
Ooh, that's early. That's early. I'm actually excited about it. Yeah, I'm very excited about it. I'm done with the wintertime. I'm over winter. We've had enough of it.
[64:51]
Macrodosing Host 1
I feel like we're.
[64:52]
Macrodosing Host 3
We're in the skateboarding a dog. It's like 70 degrees, 60 degrees. My golf game has exponentially gotten better. This is amazing.
[65:02]
Macrodosing Host 1
I'm just looking up real quick. Currently 5 outside feels like negative 15, so.
[65:07]
Big T
Damn.
[65:07]
Macrodosing Host 1
Pretty much pretty similar. Really?
[65:09]
Macrodosing Host 3
Damn. Let me see, let me see.
[65:11]
Macrodosing Host 1
The ground's just coated in ice.
[65:14]
Macrodosing Host 3
Sugarland, Texas. 65 degrees sunny.
[65:17]
Macrodosing Host 2
I walked home from my workout class this morning and it's a 15 minute walk and my, the snot inside my nose froze and made icicles in my nose on the 15 minute wonk home.
[65:26]
Big T
Geez, that's too, that's not good.
[65:29]
Macrodosing Host 2
It's so.
[65:29]
Macrodosing Host 1
It's.
[65:30]
Macrodosing Host 2
I'm. I'm creeping towards big T's. Like, why do we live here? Take. Are the summers that great?
[65:37]
Big T
They are pretty good. Yeah.
[65:38]
Macrodosing Host 2
I. I'm losing memory. I'm losing memory.
[65:42]
Macrodosing Host 4
I.
[65:43]
Macrodosing Host 2
This sucks so bad. This sucks.
[65:46]
Big T
But you do, you do appreciate the summers more.
[65:49]
Macrodosing Host 2
I know, but right now I'm not appreciating anything.
[65:52]
Macrodosing Host 1
Here's the problem though. It's still prohibitively hot here in the summer. Like if you, if you go do something, it can still be 100 degrees. When it's 100 degrees in Texas or Georgia or Tennessee, wherever that comes with mild winters. That is the trade off here it's both.
[66:12]
Big T
Yeah.
[66:12]
Macrodosing Host 1
It's prohibitively cold right now. You can't even go outside. And then in the summer it is also prohibitively hot.
[66:19]
Big T
Yep.
[66:20]
Macrodosing Host 2
For Chicago though, you get the lake.
[66:23]
Macrodosing Host 1
As the relief that makes the winters worse.
[66:27]
Macrodosing Host 2
I know. I'm just saying there is a sense of relief that. Oh, there's the lake that's available in New York. It was hot as balls.
[66:39]
Macrodosing Host 1
You say available, you mean like to go swim in?
[66:41]
Macrodosing Host 2
Yeah. Oh, well, I'm not, I'm not saying you have to go swimming.
[66:45]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah, I don't, I don't do bodies of water.
[66:47]
Macrodosing Host 2
I'm sorry.
[66:48]
Macrodosing Host 1
But particularly if they're non ocean.
[66:51]
Macrodosing Host 2
Well, lakes. Great lakes are great.
[66:54]
Macrodosing Host 1
No.
[66:54]
Macrodosing Host 2
Okay.
[66:56]
Macrodosing Host 1
Oh, let me go to the concrete beach.
[66:58]
Macrodosing Host 2
I love the concrete beach.
[66:59]
Macrodosing Host 1
Let me take the steps down to the beach. Made of concrete. It's a joke, this place.
[67:07]
Big T
What about boats though?
[67:09]
Macrodosing Host 1
If you have a boat, I'm sure it's fantastic. Yeah, I'll let you know when I'm in that tax bracket.
[67:15]
Big T
I mean, you can, you can rent.
[67:16]
Macrodosing Host 1
A boat that sounds, you can go.
[67:19]
Big T
Out on a friend's boat.
[67:20]
Macrodosing Host 1
Sure.
[67:21]
Macrodosing Host 3
I just got a, an ad for a 40 million dollar yacht. I don't know why, but that motherfucker looks sweet.
[67:29]
Macrodosing Host 1
I would hope so.
[67:30]
Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah, this is looking good, man. I don't know.
[67:32]
Big T
I have a take about yachts.
[67:34]
Macrodosing Host 3
What's your, what's your take?
[67:36]
Big T
Overrated.
[67:38]
Macrodosing Host 1
I'm listening.
[67:39]
Big T
And I say this is somebody that. I don't think I've ever been on a yacht. Like, at what point does a boat become a yacht?
[67:46]
Macrodosing Host 3
That's interesting.
[67:47]
Macrodosing Host 1
Question I think if it costs seven figures, it's a yacht.
[67:51]
Big T
I don't think that I've ever been on a yacht. So I've been on vacation, and on these vacations sometimes, like, I went to Europe 10 years ago, and I went for a day, took a little pass through Monaco, and I saw these mega yachts that were out there. Like some of the richest people in the world with these yachts. And you can look up the names of the yachts and you can find them online, because people that have these yachts either, like, rent them out occasionally or they like to flex on how sweet their yacht is. So there's pictures and it shows, like, the cost of the yacht, and you can take a virtual tour around them. The yachts that are like $100 million, $150 million, you look at the inside and you look at the square footage, what it looks like, the size of the bedrooms, and you're like, this is a. It's like a $2 million home.
[68:42]
Macrodosing Host 1
That's fair.
[68:43]
Big T
The price that you pay on a yacht is 100x what you would get for that same thing on land. And I understand that one is on water, one's on land, hence a big part of the price. They're not worth the money. In my opinion, as somebody who cannot afford a yacht, who will never buy a yacht, I'll just say I'm perfectly happy with that.
[69:04]
Macrodosing Host 1
I see where you're coming from.
[69:06]
Macrodosing Host 3
That's fair. Yeah, I agree with that. They're not, they're not worth. It's maintenance. Maintenance. Yeah, all of that. No, it's not worth it.
[69:13]
Big T
And even if you throw out maintenance, it's like, this is the living room of this yacht. It's, you know, like a 500 square foot living room with a sunken couch. Cool.
[69:23]
Macrodosing Host 3
They're built to rent, though. Like, you out. You out on vacation with some of the homies, and y' all like, yo, let's get a. Let's get a yacht and go have a little day. Day thing.
[69:31]
Big T
Yeah.
[69:31]
Macrodosing Host 3
Some drinks and some food. That's, that's, that's, that's fun.
[69:34]
Macrodosing Host 2
We did that in San Diego.
[69:37]
Macrodosing Host 3
We did do that in San Diego.
[69:39]
Big T
If there's any yacht owners out there that would like to debate me on this, on. On whether or not yachts are worth it, I'm only, I'm all ears. I want to hear why I should be more into yachts. But right now it's like. Seems like. Seems like a giant waste of money for the space that you get. What's Wrong with taking an airplane and then flying to a coastal town, staying in a nice hotel or getting a nice rental like cottage or villa or whatever. Staying in there as opposed to going out on the water. You can't. If you're on the water, you can't even go anywhere. You have to stay on your. Your stupid yacht.
[70:11]
Macrodosing Host 3
It's still cool, I guess. If I had that type of money, I still wouldn't buy it yet. I'm not a water guy. Some people love water, though. You know what I mean?
[70:24]
Big T
Yeah. Like, some people.
[70:25]
Macrodosing Host 3
Some people buy horses. That's wild to me. Some people buy, you know, whatever. I golf. That's what I do.
[70:33]
Big T
You think buying horses wild?
[70:36]
Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah, that's why.
[70:37]
Big T
Why?
[70:41]
Macrodosing Host 3
Because I don't do horses. Like, I don't. It's wild to me. Like, if you like it, you. That's what's up. Do your thing. I did. I couldn't. Could you picture me with a horse?
[70:50]
Big T
You were almost on Yellowstone.
[70:52]
Macrodosing Host 3
I was almost on Yellowstone.
[70:56]
Big T
We got anything else to get into today?
[70:59]
Macrodosing Host 1
What you think of Don Lemon?
[71:01]
Big T
What Don Lemon do this time?
[71:03]
Macrodosing Host 1
You didn't see.
[71:03]
Big T
I don't. Listen, in terms of things that I care about in life, Don Lemon has got to be.
[71:08]
Macrodosing Host 1
It was a pretty big story.
[71:09]
Big T
Close to the bottom 50.
[71:10]
Macrodosing Host 1
He led a group of ICE protesters and stormed into a church service and was, like, accosting people in the middle of church.
[71:18]
Big T
I did not see that. I'll have to look this up.
[71:20]
Macrodosing Host 3
Wait, what?
[71:21]
Macrodosing Host 1
Y' all didn't say this group of ice, but my understanding is he was, like, the. The ringleader.
[71:28]
Macrodosing Host 3
No, I don't. So I took Twitter off my phone, and I only. Only. I'm only on it while I'm on the pod with y'. All.
[71:37]
Big T
What does.
[71:38]
Macrodosing Host 3
Very peaceful, by the way.
[71:39]
Big T
What does Don Lemon do? What's his job?
[71:42]
Macrodosing Host 1
Is he not at CNN anymore?
[71:46]
Big T
No, I don't think so.
[71:47]
Macrodosing Host 2
He's like.
[71:48]
Macrodosing Host 4
He's, like, on Tick Tock now.
[71:49]
Macrodosing Host 2
Yeah, he does, like, the independent stuff.
[71:51]
Macrodosing Host 4
Yeah.
[71:51]
Macrodosing Host 1
I have been seeing him do, like, man on the street stuff.
[71:54]
Macrodosing Host 2
Yeah.
[71:55]
Macrodosing Host 4
He does that often? Yeah.
[71:56]
Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah.
[71:56]
Macrodosing Host 4
Or just which.
[71:57]
Macrodosing Host 1
I guess he would categorize this as part of.
[72:00]
Big T
Okay. I'm seeing a video of him. Lemon either interviewing or some people are saying, lecturing a pastor.
[72:08]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah, he, like, went up to the pastor and was like, what's wrong with you?
[72:12]
Big T
Okay.
[72:13]
Macrodosing Host 1
But you find the video of the whole group. They. They storm into the church and they start screaming stuff.
[72:19]
Macrodosing Host 3
Oh, it's because the. The pastor is an ICE agent.
[72:24]
Macrodosing Host 1
Is that True.
[72:25]
Macrodosing Host 3
That's what it says.
[72:26]
Big T
That's kind of a wild double life to have, isn't it?
[72:29]
Macrodosing Host 3
That's insane. So that's why. That's why he did it. He interrupted service on some. Like, how can you square these two things?
[72:37]
Big T
I'm trying.
[72:37]
Macrodosing Host 3
That's what, That's. That's just what I'm reading right here. I don't know if that's the case.
[72:40]
Macrodosing Host 1
I hadn't seen that.
[72:42]
Big T
I'm. I'm looking at. These appear to be a lot of right wing accounts that are showing him doing the interview with the pastor. I'm trying to find one where he storms into the church. In this one that I'm looking at, it does look like a big crowd of people went into this church.
[73:03]
Macrodosing Host 1
I mean, if you hadn't seen it, that. I was just. I was just curious what Yalls thoughts on it were.
[73:08]
Big T
I think Don Lemon's probably in a place right now in his professional life where he. He's got to try to stay relevant because like I said, I had no idea even what he does for a living anymore. That's the thing about people that are on like CNN or MSNBC for the most part, is the second they leave those networks, they kind of. They lose all the relevancy. It's like the platform is bigger than the people. And on your Fox News, your newsmaxes, I feel like the people that leave those places end up having bigger careers.
[73:43]
Macrodosing Host 1
That's interesting. So Tucker.
[73:46]
Big T
Yeah, Tucker would be one. Megyn Kelly's doing fine now, I think.
[73:49]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah.
[73:50]
Big T
Financially.
[73:55]
Macrodosing Host 1
Oh, speaking of, you know, right wing pundits, did you see what Candace Owens is saying?
[74:01]
Big T
Yeah, I did, I did.
[74:02]
Macrodosing Host 1
I don't know how we didn't.
[74:03]
Big T
This one. This one did make its way across my desk.
[74:06]
Macrodosing Host 3
Let me, let me, let me know. I'm. I'm always.
[74:09]
Macrodosing Host 1
It's a doozy.
[74:11]
Big T
Yeah, your girl is.
[74:15]
Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah, Calm down.
[74:17]
Macrodosing Host 1
She's.
[74:19]
Big T
She's still on the Charlie Kirk beat and.
[74:22]
Macrodosing Host 3
Okay. Yeah. Where we at with it?
[74:24]
Big T
Well, it's taking a turn.
[74:26]
Macrodosing Host 3
Okay.
[74:27]
Big T
Charlie Kirk might have been a time traveler.
[74:30]
Macrodosing Host 1
Okay, that's not all.
[74:36]
Big T
What's the other part?
[74:37]
Macrodosing Host 1
Oh, that he was put in a secret X Men school for kids with like, special powers.
[74:43]
Macrodosing Host 2
Oh, I didn't see that part.
[74:47]
Big T
And then he. He texted her saying he thinks he's a time traveler. And now she's taking that literally and trying to figure out what dimensions Charlie was traveling in and out of over the course of his life. By the way, the message where the person was like, Yeah, I got sent to this school in Utah that's been closed down. That is a very real thing that happens where they send troubled youth to these, like, sleep away schools where they're essentially kept as hostages and they're abused. And it's like a big giant network of these schools that exist across the country. And it's actually like, it's cut and dry. Child abuse. Use what they're doing, but you pay them because you just. You would rather not have to deal with your own kids who might be getting into some trouble sometimes. Just like normal kid stuff. But parents that just don't feel like they can deal with it, they're like, yeah, just come. Come kidnap my child in the middle of the night from his bed and then take them to the school and don't let them contact me.
[75:49]
Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah, I've seen. I say something on that. Yeah, they like, literally, they kidnap them.
[75:54]
Macrodosing Host 1
That sounds terrifying.
[75:55]
Big T
Yeah, no, it's. It's like a giant network of schools, and every time they get closed down, it takes a lot to close them down. Because they're very politically connected.
[76:03]
Macrodosing Host 3
They're powerful about that. What is the movie about that?
[76:05]
Big T
Yeah, there's a show. I. I saw a document.
[76:08]
Macrodosing Host 3
What is it called? West Something or something or other.
[76:12]
Big T
It was about one in upstate New York.
[76:14]
Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah, I saw that. With that creepy lady at the helm.
[76:18]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah, tell me the name of that. I'm kind of intrigued and watching it.
[76:22]
Macrodosing Host 3
It was pretty good, actually.
[76:23]
Big T
Yeah, they brought a bunch of. I guess you can call them alumni from that school or kids that had gone to that school, and they. They brought them back to the campus after the campus had shut down, and they just talked to each other about the different things that they went through while they were there. And it. All the kids that are up for life, like, it's a really bad place, but yeah, it's like all across the country that they've got those things. So this one person that's like, yeah, I was kidnapped in the middle of the night and kept here. Yeah, that's happening. It's happening wayward.
[76:52]
Macrodosing Host 3
Wayward.
[76:54]
Macrodosing Host 1
I'll look into that. So y' all don't think Charlie Kirk was a time traveler?
[76:58]
Big T
Well, in. In so far as. Is there any evidence that he had special time traveling abilities?
[77:04]
Macrodosing Host 1
Like, are we not that we've seen?
[77:06]
Macrodosing Host 3
Is there any evidence that he didn't?
[77:08]
Big T
I mean, if we all are time travelers and there's multiple dimensions and universes that are in parallel going on at the same time, then I think he probably was just like, Any of the rest of us would be. But was he like a special. A special kid that was given the ability to time travel?
[77:25]
Macrodosing Host 1
That's a unique perspective. So yes, Charlie Kirk was a time traveler, but only because you are too.
[77:30]
Big T
Yeah. Everybody is interesting that I could, I could be convinced of that. But yeah, Candace. I feel like this is the point where Candace needs to see a professional real quick.
[77:40]
Macrodosing Host 1
Madeline, I'm. I'm officially too old because I see people referencing We Are Charlie Kirk and I understand it's a song.
[77:49]
Big T
Yeah.
[77:50]
Macrodosing Host 1
That is supposedly prevalent all over the place. I haven't heard this once where it is.
[77:56]
Macrodosing Host 3
So my daughter, My daughter be sending me that all the time.
[78:00]
Macrodosing Host 2
There's a drag queen that I'm seeing on my TikTok a lot who is doing Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk drag and really. And performing to that. I saw what. I actually just sent it to.
[78:11]
Macrodosing Host 3
You wanna see that big D? You look really excited.
[78:13]
Macrodosing Host 1
It's just. That was such a shocking string of words.
[78:17]
Macrodosing Host 4
And I gotta see this.
[78:19]
Macrodosing Host 2
It's like the We Are Charlie Kirk song. And the drag queen is dressed as Erica Kirk and has like piercing blue contacts in and it's the audio playing of her with Bari Weiss. And it was Bari Weiss being like, if you could tell one thing to the haters. And she's like, stop. And then it goes into the Charlie Kirk song. Yeah, it's just. It's an AI song that's like actually just so bad and it's just. It just screams we are Charlie Kirk.
[78:46]
Macrodosing Host 3
Okay. You gotta hit that shit.
[78:48]
Macrodosing Host 2
We carry the flame I'll send it to you.
[78:52]
Big T
It's a pft.
[78:53]
Macrodosing Host 2
Knows it.
[78:54]
Big T
Yeah, yeah, I've heard the song. I've heard the tune a few times.
[78:57]
Macrodosing Host 2
It's so funny.
[78:58]
Big T
It's like super overdramatic. And it sounds like it's a soundtrack to a really shitty 300 spin off movie that came out from like an off brand studio. On one hand, it kind of sucks that we're at this point with irony poisoning and the Internet where now like the objective tragic death of a guy who was shot is just now after what, three months, four months?
[79:28]
Macrodosing Host 2
Oh, not that. That that song came out a while.
[79:30]
Big T
It's been so memified that now it's like people are just joking non stop about what's happened since then.
[79:38]
Macrodosing Host 2
I just.
[79:39]
Big T
They're not, they're not making fun of Charlie for being shot, but the narrative around his death through all the things like, you know, people taking a side on it or Candace Owens going off the defense has Reached a point where now we're just like completely numb to the fact that a guy got shot in the neck and killed.
[79:54]
Macrodosing Host 1
How long do you think if 9, 11 happened today it would take for.
[79:58]
Macrodosing Host 3
There to be day of?
[80:00]
Big T
Yeah, some of the Edge lords would. Would jump to that.
[80:03]
Macrodosing Host 1
Not even like. Not even just like edgy jokes, but like kids making AI songs on Tick Tock, I guess. Same time frame, day of.
[80:13]
Big T
And I think the We Are Charlie Kirk song, I think that was composed as a. A honest to God tribute to Charlie Kirk. But it was so over the top that it became a joke, even for people that would be Charlie Kirk supporters.
[80:28]
Macrodosing Host 1
I searched We Are Charlie Serious at.
[80:30]
Macrodosing Host 3
First I thought it was always parody.
[80:31]
Big T
I think it was serious at first.
[80:32]
Macrodosing Host 3
I think it was too funny.
[80:35]
Macrodosing Host 2
I see people will play it for like their Boomer Maga parents and they'll put their hand up like it's a worship song and they really get into it.
[80:45]
Macrodosing Host 1
She asked, what are we? I said, Charlie Kirk. That's the top tweet that comes up when you search We Are Charlie. Charlie Kirk.
[80:53]
Macrodosing Host 2
I just had a photoshop of Charlie Kirk as the Silver Surfer from the Fantastic Four.
[80:59]
Big T
Yeah, I think Candace needs to just sign off, just log off for a little bit.
[81:04]
Macrodosing Host 2
This may be an anti feminist question I'm about to ask, but what could her husband be thinking about all of this? Her British husband.
[81:13]
Macrodosing Host 3
Clearly he agrees.
[81:15]
Macrodosing Host 4
I was gonna say he has to be as equally as crazy as she is, but the.
[81:19]
Macrodosing Host 2
I don't know, because the time traveler.
[81:21]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah.
[81:22]
Macrodosing Host 2
Text is clearly just like a horny. I like text.
[81:26]
Big T
Or it might not even be. Yeah, it could be horny, but it also could be like something happened in the news and. Or like a band just came out with an album and it was like a. A jazz sounding album from like the 1920s and Charlie liked it and he was like, I think I'm a time traveler. Like, I was born in the wrong era.
[81:44]
Macrodosing Host 2
Right.
[81:45]
Big T
That sort of thing.
[81:45]
Macrodosing Host 2
Like, what does her husband think about all of this happening?
[81:49]
Big T
He's got to be asking some questions. Yeah. Do you think if he's got friends, if he has real friends, they would be asking him these questions, like, what was going on there?
[81:58]
Macrodosing Host 4
Right. He might not.
[82:01]
Big T
He might not have any real friends.
[82:03]
Macrodosing Host 4
She might not either.
[82:05]
Macrodosing Host 2
Well, I think she had one.
[82:07]
Macrodosing Host 4
True.
[82:08]
Big T
Yeah.
[82:08]
Macrodosing Host 1
I mean, is she still raking in cash?
[82:12]
Big T
Yeah, Candace is. She's doing pretty well for herself, but yeah. She also said that she's had handlers. Like she. She's heavily implying, I think, what the crux is that she's getting at is that there's a Jewish cabal of secret agents that followed Charlie around for the last five years of his life and had him killed. And she's saying, looking back on it, I had a bunch of Jewish people that were trying to control me, but I couldn't be controlled. Now, if Candace was right about this entire idea, I feel like the stuff that she has said would have made her at the top of the list, and Charlie would be like 200th on that list for people to take out. Right. If she's right about everything that she's.
[82:57]
Macrodosing Host 1
Saying, I mean, if she disappears, I guess we'll know.
[83:01]
Big T
Yeah. I. I'm gonna go out on a limb, and I'm gonna say that I don't think that Candace is right about everything that she's saying. I do think that, like, in. In all these crazy conspiracies, there's always going to be a small kernel of truth, which is that there's going to be people that want you to have certain conversations and people that want you to share their opinions about other things. They will try to influence how you talk about those things. That doesn't mean that you've got a team of Jewish people following you around threatening to kill you if you don't toe the party line about Israel all the time.
[83:34]
Macrodosing Host 1
Are we ever going to get a real resolution to the Emmanuel Macron thing? Are they still in court over that, or.
[83:40]
Big T
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[85:20]
Macrodosing Host 1
She's still tweeting about it, but I'm not seeing any real updates.
[85:24]
Big T
I'm sure her lawyer's excited about that.
[85:26]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah, she tweeted something about. Hang on, I just lost it. So Nick Fuentes apparently said that Epstein wasn't quote, satanic occult pedophilia, but end quote, but trafficking carried out for explicit political leverage. And then she said it is literally satanic occult pedophilia. Yes. This is a guiding theology amongst the elite. And Nick is trying to assist them in convincing the world that Satan is a conspiracy theory. This is why he always runs to cover Brigitte Macron. The elites practice ritualistic satanic child abuse and even the slightest incursion into the history of Sigmund Freud and his perverted Viennese colleagues. I guess those from Vienna.
[86:13]
Big T
Yeah.
[86:14]
Macrodosing Host 1
Whose offspring are still in power today and whom established Hollywood in our mainstream media apparatus will lead you to this conclusion. If Nick would like to debate the topic, I'm completely game. Since, you know, I'm a sub Saharan African and he's so naturally brilliant. This should be a cakewalk for him.
[86:31]
Big T
Okay, what does that have to do with McCrone?
[86:35]
Macrodosing Host 1
Well, I just searched Candace. He said, she said it's. It literally is satanic occult pedophilia. Yes. This is a guiding theology amongst the elite. And Nick is trying to assist them in convincing the world that Satan is a conspiracy theory. This is why he always runs to cover for Brigitte Macron.
[86:51]
Big T
Okay, the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn't exist.
[86:55]
Macrodosing Host 1
Right? So she's saying that that falls under the same umbrella.
[87:01]
Big T
And Nick, that's. That is the only explanation I can think of of why somebody would not think that Brigitte McCrone was actually a man.
[87:12]
Macrodosing Host 1
Right.
[87:12]
Big T
They're in on it. They're a pedophile. That's. Yeah. I want to know how this whole thing is going to shake out, because what Candace is doing. I'm not a lawyer. You guys know that. Maybe the whole time traveler thing is just a great cover for an insanity defense, or maybe not insanity defense, but maybe it's like, you know, if you have to prove defamation, I don't know what the international court laws are and what it's like in France, but you have to prove that you have malice towards that person if they're a public figure. And maybe if she's just crazy enough, it's very hard to prove malice because you're like, this person is just not mentally well. So maybe Candace is pulling like a 17 dimensional chess move right now.
[88:01]
Macrodosing Host 1
Or maybe not.
[88:02]
Macrodosing Host 3
Maybe not.
[88:03]
Big T
Maybe she's just crazy. I think she might just be crazy. All right, anything else we want to get into?
[88:12]
Macrodosing Host 1
Are we getting Greenland?
[88:15]
Big T
Remains to be seen.
[88:18]
Macrodosing Host 1
Why do we want Greenland so badly?
[88:21]
Big T
It's a great question, Big T. I think because they have a lot of rare earth minerals. I think because they are strategically located in the North Atlantic, in the Arctic Circle. I think right now, last I saw, is that we're now threatening a trade war with all of the eu, all of Europe, and then Europe can respond in kind and nobody wins. I think Europe could actually. One of the options that they might have is to implement a boycott of all United States goods, in which case that would fuck everybody over. So I don't know. I saw the letter that Trump sent saying, because you did not award me the Nobel Peace Prize, that's made me reconsider being peaceful on the time.
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Macrodosing Host 1
It's fair enough.
[89:23]
Big T
I don't know how.
[89:24]
Macrodosing Host 4
Doesn't he have the FIFA Peace Prize?
[89:26]
Big T
Yeah.
[89:27]
Macrodosing Host 1
Far more prestigious award, many have said.
[89:29]
Big T
Well, he also has the Nobel Peace Prize because it was given to him as a gift. All right, so politics aside, let's. Can we just throw politics out the window? Can we agree that for the purposes of this conversation, this is a safe space? You know what? I'll even change the key players in this. All right, fast forward. Second week of February. Drake May and the New England Patriots have won the Super Bowl. They're world champions. Boston's title town again. They're doing the duck boats, the parades, the dynasties back on at the podium of the super bowl parade. Everyone's had a couple cocktails, feeling good about themselves. Drake May gets up there to address The Boston faithful. And he says, I would like to give this Lombardi Trophy to Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. Would Josh Allen accept that trophy? And if he accepted that trophy, would he then schedule a parade in Buffalo to show off the trophy and to tell the Bills, we did it. We're finally world champions. What would you think about Josh Allen and Drake May in that situation?
[90:50]
Macrodosing Host 1
I'm unfamiliar with. Are you saying they gave Trump a Nobel Peace Prize?
[90:57]
Big T
The winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, she gave the Nobel Peace Prize to Donald Trump because he. He asked for it.
[91:05]
Macrodosing Host 1
When was this?
[91:07]
Big T
Was that last week?
[91:09]
Macrodosing Host 4
I do remember hearing. I don't remember exactly when it was.
[91:12]
Macrodosing Host 1
Okay, I'm. I'm the. I.
[91:14]
Big T
But we're talking about.
[91:15]
Macrodosing Host 1
You're telling me for the first time.
[91:16]
Big T
We'Re not talking about the Nobel. We're talking about the Lombardi Trophy. In this example.
[91:26]
Macrodosing Host 1
Presented as a personal symbol of gratitude on behalf of the Venezuelan people in recognition of President Trump's principled and decisive action to secure a free Venezuela.
[91:36]
Big T
But also during. During the next couple weeks, imagine that Josh Allen had been publicly campaigning for Drake May to give him the Lombardi Trophy and the Bill's organization, Like, if he was making numerous statements, being like, this is not fair. You should give me the Lombardi Trophy. Can I have that Lombardi Trophy? Why did you get it and I didn't get it?
[91:56]
Macrodosing Host 4
I'll say I would take my. I would take my take back if he did that.
[92:01]
Big T
You would.
[92:01]
Macrodosing Host 4
I would.
[92:02]
Big T
Okay.
[92:02]
Macrodosing Host 4
I would.
[92:03]
Big T
So you'd be fine.
[92:04]
Macrodosing Host 4
That's how much I would hate it.
[92:05]
Big T
That's how much.
[92:06]
Macrodosing Host 2
Yeah.
[92:06]
Big T
You wouldn't even want it.
[92:08]
Macrodosing Host 4
No.
[92:10]
Macrodosing Host 1
Well, some would argue this is like a college football playoff selection committee type scenario. One is one on the field. The Nobel Peace Prize has, you know, it's an arbitrary selection process.
[92:23]
Big T
So it's like. Was that the USC year?
[92:27]
Macrodosing Host 3
Where.
[92:27]
Big T
Auburn.
[92:28]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah, Auburn in 2004, when.
[92:30]
Big T
Yeah. They claimed a national championship that year.
[92:33]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah. Which is absurd.
[92:35]
Big T
Yeah. It's funny, though.
[92:36]
Macrodosing Host 1
They claimed it 20 years later.
[92:37]
Big T
You can claim whatever you want. And people are just like, all right.
[92:40]
Macrodosing Host 1
Dude, if you want to claim one from the 1930s, do whatever you want.
[92:43]
Big T
You can do it. So. So this Nobel Peace Prize is like, just claiming a national championship. It's like ucf.
[92:52]
Macrodosing Host 1
No, because no one granted UCF that distinction.
[92:57]
Macrodosing Host 3
Right.
[92:57]
Macrodosing Host 1
This is. Once the Nobel Peace Prize has been given to. Who is this? Maria Karina Machado. She can do whatever she wants with it.
[93:07]
Big T
Do you think it has the same honor and prestige if she gave it to somebody else.
[93:13]
Macrodosing Host 1
Could be more.
[93:14]
Big T
More. Because you were so good that you made. You made even the winner of the prize say, this is. This is bullshit.
[93:20]
Macrodosing Host 1
Exactly.
[93:21]
Big T
It belongs to you. Okay.
[93:22]
Macrodosing Host 1
Well.
[93:23]
Big T
Yeah, well, I don't know. How is it written down now?
[93:26]
Macrodosing Host 1
It's like the commercial where it was out on me. Coach.
[93:31]
Big T
Yeah.
[93:31]
Macrodosing Host 1
You know, the refs didn't do the right thing, but I need to.
[93:35]
Big T
Yeah. Okay. Sportsmanship. Catch it.
[93:37]
Macrodosing Host 1
Exactly.
[93:38]
Big T
We should be teaching our children this instead of sports gambling.
[93:41]
Macrodosing Host 1
Right.
[93:41]
Big T
Like taking accountability and doing the right thing.
[93:45]
Macrodosing Host 1
But if Giannis scratches his nuts tonight, I mean, maybe we're all the crazy ones.
[93:49]
Big T
That is true. That is true. So, yeah, I guess congratulations to. To Donald Trump, who won the Nobel Peace Prize via Machado, and. Well, shouldn't that make him more likely to be like, hey, I'm not going to do anything to Greenland because I did win the Peace Prize? I don't think you can have it both ways.
[94:06]
Macrodosing Host 1
I'm not fully read up on Greenland, but I think his argument would be that. That is promoting peace by negating threats from other countries.
[94:15]
Big T
Peace through strength.
[94:16]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah.
[94:17]
Big T
So it'd be like, we will. We will take over Greenland Mill with our military if we have to, because in the greater good, sometimes you gotta.
[94:26]
Macrodosing Host 1
Crack a few eggs.
[94:26]
Big T
The world will be safer.
[94:27]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah.
[94:28]
Big T
Okay, so we've got.
[94:29]
Macrodosing Host 1
I think that would be his argument.
[94:31]
Big T
We got Venezuela, we got Iran, and we got Greenland. A lot of. We had a lot of irons and a lot of different fires. Right now. We got our finger in a lot of pies. We're tasting all them this date. One that's. That's got to be Iran. Oh, we got herring pie. Greenland. Yeah.
[94:48]
Macrodosing Host 1
What is a herring pie?
[94:51]
Big T
A pie, like a chicken pot pie with fish.
[94:53]
Macrodosing Host 1
Oh, actual herring.
[94:55]
Big T
Yeah, yeah. Herring pie.
[94:56]
Macrodosing Host 1
I see.
[94:56]
Big T
Yeah.
[94:56]
Macrodosing Host 3
Yeah.
[94:58]
Big T
But I guess the good news is I haven't heard anything about Iran in, like, 14 hours, so maybe that's going away.
[95:05]
Macrodosing Host 1
Yeah. People were. Seemed like it was going to get hot there for a minute.
[95:10]
Big T
I. I get my news from the Pentagon Pizza Tracker, and the Pentagon Pizza Tracker was all over this last week. Like, we're about to. We're about to go in. And I think that the United States military. We are. We. If you give us three months to find and kill anybody in the world, we can do it. We can absolutely do it. And then don't ask us what happens afterwards, but we can. We can get that mission accomplished. Should be an interesting week. All right, we will see you guys on Thursday. Love you guys.
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Macrodosing Host 1
Goodbye.