College Football Cheating Scandals (ft. Brandon Walker) | Jan 15, 2026

Summary

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Macrodosing: College Football Cheating Scandals (ft. Brandon Walker) — January 15, 2026

Episode Overview

In this episode, PFT Commenter, Arian Foster (briefly), Big T, Mackenzie, and special guest Brandon Walker dive deep into the world of college football cheating scandals. They explore historical examples, recent rumors (especially the wild speculation surrounding Indiana football’s meteoric rise), and brainstorm creative ways teams might bend or break the rules in the NIL and transfer portal era. With trademark Macrodosing humor and irreverence, they also entertain listeners with tangents on crypto rug pulls, pilot mental health, cat ownership, favorite football movies, and more.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Eric Adams’ Crypto Rug Pull (03:44, 22:25)

• Summary: Big T recounts NYC’s ex-mayor Eric Adams launching “NYC Token” to “combat antisemitism and anti-Americanism”—and allegedly rug-pulling the coin within hours. The panel jokes about the absurdity and how people still fall for such scams.
• Quote: “If you bought a single cent of Eric Adams’ exclusive NYC Token, you do not have any right to be upset about it getting rug pulled. That’s a 100% skill issue.” — PFT Commenter (23:20)
• The panel runs through public figures who could do a rug pull next, with Mincy and Chip & Joanna Gaines getting honorable (or dishonorable) mention.

2. The Phenomenon of Cheating and Scandal in Sports & Life (35:21–95:41)

• Indiana Football’s Sudden Dominance & Cheating Rumors

  • Indiana’s outlier year sparks accusations of hacking, sign stealing, and other subterfuge (36:06, 36:47).
  • Four first-drive interceptions and explosive starts provide circumstantial “evidence.”
  • Old Dominion’s surprise success against Indiana feeds the speculation—they didn’t use the shared technology system as others do (37:47, 111:55).
  • Indiana’s unorthodox roster--senior-laden, mistake-free, and quarterback-centric--is highlighted as the non-cheating explanation (41:13).

• Is Cheating Just Part of the Game Now?

  • Parallels drawn to Michigan's sign-stealing scandal and the NCAA's lack of teeth.
  • Panelists reflect on the ethical and practical dimensions: “If you were guaranteed a national title in the next five years, but your school became the dirtiest, most cheating organization in America—do you care?” Resounding yes. (45:04)

3. Historical Cheating: The Vault of Scandalous Tactics (75:41–95:41)

• Creative & Historical Methods:
  • The George Halas Timeout Dog — Using a dog trained to stop NFL games for “timeouts.” (75:41)
  • Stadium Engineering: The Buffalo Bills allegedly manipulated wind by opening/closing doors during games (86:55–88:31).
  • Scholarships for Nonexistent Teams: Herschel Walker’s sister gets a track scholarship from UGA before a women's program existed (88:31–88:50).
  • Sharing Secrets: 1963 Georgia-Alabama scandal where the Georgia AD gave Bear Bryant their playbook via crossed phone lines (90:05–93:41).
  • Spyware/Electronics: Allegations Colts used earpiece tech for Peyton Manning; modern parallels discussed (60:05–62:23).

4. How Would You Cheat? Dreaming Up Modern Scams (55:02–66:30, 99:16–111:19)

• With unlimited funds, no magic, and unlimited cunning, the team and listeners devise these schemes:
  • Brandon’s Madness:
    • Seductive honeypots to implant brain chips in opposing players—chips trigger backward runs or inaccurate passes via ultrasonic sound (55:46).
    • Biological warfare (an outbreak backfires!), advanced hacking, “cars, cars, cars” as NIL cover for old-school player bribery.
  • PFT’s Play:
    • Mass earpiece system—shadow coaching staffs relay real-time position group instructions. Possible pitfalls: “unmitigated chaos” if signals are wrong (61:49).
  • Big T’s Tactics:
    • Alumni-organized alt-coin pump-and-dump for NIL funding.
    • Bribing walk-ons and agents at opponent programs for playbooks and scripts.
    • Boardroom-level sign-stealing and taping communications in Connor Stallions fashion.
  • Voicemailers’ Ideas:
    • Recruiting transfer portal plants from every opponent for insider info.
    • Government leveraging military draft to recruit (satirically) for service academies.
    • Drones and “fake” production crews to visually/audio spy during games (99:16).
    • The honeypot: seducing non-player sideline signalers to get passwords and playbooks (105:24).
    • Tech-based radio interception of playcalls.

5. Why is Cheating So Hard to Catch Now?

• NIL Disguises Cheating: NIL is just the “face” on old bags-of-cash scams and makes car bribes seem legal (58:28). No effective NCAA oversight.
• Euphemistically, “the table is 30 feet off the ground because of how much is under it right now.” — Brandon Walker (59:26)

6. Other Notable Tangents & Segments

The NFL’s (and Pilots') “Infectious” Mistakes (08:22–16:11)

• A riff on how one person being late (or crashing a plane) seems to “infect” others. The “crash clusters” theory from Freakonomics, and pilot mental health policies—should every pilot have a therapist? Is the real risk secret, untreated pilot distress?

The OnlyFans Tax Debate (29:47–34:47)

• A Florida gubernatorial candidate proposes a 50% OF tax, gets into a feud with top OF creator Sophie Rain. The gang delves into why anyone pays for OnlyFans (vs. endless free porn), with perspectives on creator empowerment, the loneliness epidemic, and how parasocial relationships can get dark.

Favorite Football Movies (53:03–54:26)

• Brandon Walker’s rankings:
  1. Friday Night Lights
  2. Any Given Sunday
  3. Remember the Titans
  • “If that movie was made without the Disney-ification, I think it would be a top-5 movie of all time.” — Brandon Walker (54:13)
• Debate over Ed Harris vs. Will Patton in “Remember the Titans” escalates in classic “no, yes, no, yes” style.

Voicemail Lightning Round (98:18–111:19)

• Listeners pitch increasingly creative schemes, from recruiting for insider knowledge to running advanced spy networks. The consensus: the NFL and college football’s increasing player movement makes complex systems hard to execute; simple bribery and basic espionage still reign supreme.

Final Thoughts: Is Indiana the Greatest Story Ever? (114:17–116:20)

• If Indiana wins it all (16–0), does it top LSU 2019? Leicester City? The Miracle on Ice? “It’s the most improbable story in the history of sports.” — Big T (114:49)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Doesn’t that make sense? Michigan got to the top of the sport with their own cheating scandal... and nothing happened. So why wouldn't somebody crop up and say, well, all right, if you can get away with it, we’ll just do it.” — Brandon Walker (38:47)
• “If you were guaranteed a national title but your school had to become the dirtiest, most cheating organization in America, do you care?” // “Yes.” — PFT, Big T, Walker (45:21)
• “We put a NIL coat of paint on college football; the cheating... is worse than it’s ever, ever been. No one cares, because you have the legal face of ‘it’s okay’.” — Brandon Walker (60:05)
• “Unmitigated chaos: 11 voices in 11 ears. If one guy gets fooled, the whole thing falls apart.” — Brandon Walker (62:33)
• “Timeout dog. Sometimes the best answer is just having a rascal.” — PFT Commenter (76:13)
• “Recruit agents and walk-ons to leak scripts. There’s always a guy with access not making anything.” — Big T (67:08)

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Timestamps for Essential Segments

• Eric Adams’ Crypto & Rug Pull Culture: 03:44 / 22:25
• Indiana’s Cheating Accusations & Analysis: 36:06 / 36:47 / 37:47 / 41:13 / 111:55
• How to Cheat—Wild Ideas & Voicemails: 55:02–66:30, 99:16–111:19
• Favorite Football Movies (Ed Harris/Will Patton debate): 53:03–54:26
• Classic Cheating Tales (Timeout Dog, Stadium Wind, Scholarship Scams): 75:41–95:41
• OnlyFans, Loneliness, and Political Grandstanding: 29:47–34:47
• Final Indiana vs. Greatest Teams Ever Debate: 114:17–116:20

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Tone & Style

The episode is fast, loose, and full of the panel’s signature jokes, running gags, and irreverent banter. The tone is skeptical but fun, blending sports-nerd seriousness with recurring humor and wild hypotheticals. Brandon Walker shines as a blend of historian and rogue schemer, while PFT and Big T keep the “would you do it for a natty?” question alive throughout.

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For those who missed it:

This episode is a must-listen for anyone who loves the intersection of college football, absurdity, and investigative riffing. Whether you want historical lore, failed rug-pulls, or creative espionage plots, the show delivers laughs and insights in equal measure.

Transcript

[PFT Commenter]

Hey Macrodosing listeners. You can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Big T]

He's the assistant in Remember the Titans.

[Brandon Walker]

No.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

No.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

No.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

No.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

No.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

Will Patton is this.

[Big T]

This guy is in Remember the Titans.

[Brandon Walker]

Ed Harris is not in Remember the Titans.

[Big T]

You know what? Now that I look at him, they must be. Are they brothers?

[Brandon Walker]

No, they don't look anything alike.

[PFT Commenter]

Damn, Big T, you lost the. No. Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

Off. That was tough.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Welcome back to Nano Dosing.

[PFT Commenter]

It is Thursday.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Jan Macro dozing. Welcome back to. Welcome back to Macrodosing. It is Thursday the 15th, January 15th, and we had a cool little episode planned. We still do. It's gonna be a good episode. I just won't be partaking in it because of Eric. And that's okay. He's a good guy.

[Big T]

This is.

[Jan Macrodosing]

The old dog ate his homework.

[Big T]

Excuse you. You've been late a couple times, which is no big deal. Whatever, it's your show. This is really the first time. I think PFT has been exceptionally late and you were here on time and the. We're recording very early this morning. We said we were going to record at eight to work around some different stuff. I was here at like 7:15, Arian hopped on at 8 and then at 8:06 we got a text. Hey, my alarm didn't go off. My bad. Be in ASAP. Okay, no big deal. And then at 8:33. Sorry guys, I fucked up. I'm on the road but it's very snowy and traffic sucks ass right now. My ETA is 8 and that was at 8:33. I said, does that mean 8 minutes? Was that supposed to say 9? 9 o'. Clock. He still hasn't responded, so I don't know what that means, but that's kind.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Of 30, 30 minutes. My ETA is 30 minutes ago.

[Big T]

My ETA is eight. Maybe it was supposed to be minutes and he was doing and voice to text and it didn't.

[Jan Macrodosing]

It's all good. He's a hard working man for sure. It's all right. But definitely gotta, definitely gotta bust his balls.

[Big T]

So we're recording early because Aryan's gotta leave. So now he's gonna have to leave before we really start.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Yeah, so I just wanted to pop in, say hello to all the Macadosians. I have an amazing outfit on for those that can't see it. It's maroon and gray, very proud of it. I don't match well normally, but when it comes to golf I got to have A. I have a thing.

[Big T]

What brand were those? Pants. No free shout outs.

[Jan Macrodosing]

But hey, Red Vanley dog.

[Mackenzie]

Like they're just gonna give us rip us again.

[Jan Macrodosing]

I keep it a beam. Red Vanley. I mentioned them on the pod. They sent a whole bunch of stuff, man. So I'm very appreciative. I can't even front. Got to talk to the CEO, you know.

[Big T]

Well, I didn't mean to set you up for an ad. Now it sounds like we were doing an ad.

[Jan Macrodosing]

It is not an ad.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just love.

[Jan Macrodosing]

That's just organic love. Like I.

[Brandon Walker]

We. We make.

[Jan Macrodosing]

We make it know what we selling? You know what I'm saying? We make it known. I'm not selling no Red Valley.

[Brandon Walker]

That's just love.

[Jan Macrodosing]

If I like a product, I'm entitled to say I like it some good, man.

[Big T]

You got anything on your mind before ETA 8 shows up?

[Jan Macrodosing]

Head ass. You know what, man? No. I've gotten off social media and I feel like my mind is clearer. I just took a break.

[Brandon Walker]

I haven't been on it for about.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Four or five days.

[Big T]

So you have not seen the Eric Adams crypto?

[Jan Macrodosing]

I have not, but that is why I got off.

[Big T]

I mean, I should. I was. I was planning on everybody being here for this, but this feels like something you should find out about.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Yeah, please, please.

[Big T]

So Eric Adams launched a crypto called NYC Token. And he said, this is unbelievable. He said, this crypto is going to combat anti Semitism and anti Americanism.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Oh, yeah.

[Big T]

So it launches the other day and it actually shot up really high from what I saw. And then he immediately. Rug pulled and removed all of his liquidity from it and it completely crashed. And so I saw one.

[Brandon Walker]

People still follow me.

[Big T]

I saw one tweet that said, mayor Adams, I. I bought. I spent my life savings on NYC Token, but now that you. Rug pulled me, I'm. I'm even more Semitic than I've ever been. Can you please advise?

[Jan Macrodosing]

That is hilarious. Did he. Did he ever go into, like, how the. The currency is going to combat anti Semitism?

[Big T]

He gave a press conference in Times Square, and I. I didn't watch it. I don't know. He just said it was going to combat anti Semitism and that it was going to restore. Oh. And then yesterday he was getting off a plane and a woman walks up to him and is like, fuck you, you piece of shit. This, that, and the other, and he goes, you can go fuck yourself. I'm not the mayor anymore. You're going to see the Brooklyn in me.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Jan Macrodosing]

I like that. Let's see. Let's see who you really are now.

[Big T]

Post Mayor Eric Adams could be a hell of a character.

[Jan Macrodosing]

I mean, right?

[Brandon Walker]

He's.

[Jan Macrodosing]

He's going for the gusto right now. I like it.

[Brandon Walker]

Hey, man.

[Big T]

Shout out to.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Shout out to Eric Adams, man. Let your hair down. In the society be you player.

[Big T]

His tweet from January 12th is proud to launch NYC Token, a new token built to fight the rapid spread of anti Semitism and anti Americanism across the country and. And in New York City. And there's a community note. Former mayor Eric Adams immediately withdrew his liquidity from the coin and what is typically called a rug pull.

[Jan Macrodosing]

That's. I want to start a crypto called rug pull.

[Big T]

Just be upfront about it and see.

[Jan Macrodosing]

If people still do it.

[Big T]

I bet it would actually go to the moon.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Fuck around, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

Rug pull.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Crypto.

[Brandon Walker]

Come.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Come waste your money with me.

[Brandon Walker]

That'd be fun.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Well, that concludes my time on macro, though. You guys are gonna get a full dose of Eric. It's gonna be a great episode. And Brandon Walker coming in. Matt, I miss him, but he was.

[Big T]

Supposed to be here at 8:30 too. I don't know.

[Mackenzie]

And he's in the building.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Yeah, it's all right, man. I gotta shake. But hey, it's lovely seeing all your beautiful faces. Yeah.

[Big T]

Wish me well. What's your goal score today?

[Jan Macrodosing]

My goal is always to break 80. It's kind of my fault why I haven't breaking 80 yet because I always play with dudes who play from the tips, right? And we probably shouldn't with our handicaps, but that's just how they play when.

[Brandon Walker]

They play money games.

[Jan Macrodosing]

They play from the tips. And so my scores are all like low 80s, mid to low 80s from the tips. So, like, if I play whites, I will absolutely break. You know what I'm saying? But I'm having 230 yard par threes and shit, 500 yard par four.

[Brandon Walker]

This is.

[Big T]

It's.

[Jan Macrodosing]

It's hard. It's a tough game, but the skill set is getting there, so.

[Big T]

Love to hear that.

[Voicemail Callers]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. All right, man.

[Jan Macrodosing]

Hey, y' all have a beautiful weekend. Macrodosians, stay safe. Avoid the bookings.

[Big T]

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[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Welcome back to Macrodosing. This is pft. I am late. I apologize. I. I take full accountability, but I also put 50% accountability on Zach who slept in yesterday, and I feel like I caught it from him.

[Brandon Walker]

So it's contagious.

[PFT Commenter]

It's contagious or it's like. I don't know if you've. If you. If you've read Freakonomics. Brandon, you seem like a Freakonomics guy.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, I haven't.

[PFT Commenter]

In Freakonomics, I read like 20 years ago that when there's an airplane crash, there's the highest likelihood of another airplane crash within the next couple days.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay. There was definitely, like a rap album called Freakonomics. Like in 98. Yeah, 98. 99.

[PFT Commenter]

That sounds like a good, like, old school. Yeah, maybe like the follow up to. To Baby Got Back by Sir Mix a lot.

[Big T]

Sure you're not thinking of basic thug anomics?

[Brandon Walker]

Well, there was that, but we also had Freakology. We. We had all freaking was going crazy in the 90s. There was definitely a Freakonomics at some point.

[PFT Commenter]

You ever freak dance?

[Brandon Walker]

I never freak danced. I. No. No, I never freak dance.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you guys know what freak dancing is without looking it up?

[Brandon Walker]

No, not really.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you googling it?

[Big T]

No, I was looking up freak nickname.

[Brandon Walker]

We had freak fest as well. Down Mississippi. Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Mad Dog McKenzie. Do you guys. Are you familiar with freak dancing?

[Mackenzie]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

No one's ever used that term around you. That was big. Maybe it's. Maybe it's a Mid Atlantic thing. Maybe it was.

[Brandon Walker]

No, I think it was. It's ringing a bell.

[PFT Commenter]

Freak dancing was. It's just another word for grinding.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, yeah. And listen, like.

[PFT Commenter]

Like heavy grinding.

[Brandon Walker]

The word freak was everywhere. Just because it was in the. The heyday of band lyrics and everything, and you just couldn't say super freak. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Super freak.

[Big T]

Is that why?

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Freaking as Opposed to fucking.

[Big T]

Because now these, they just don't care.

[Brandon Walker]

No, they just say fuck. Yeah, yeah. It would be fuck. Ology and fuckinomics.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So much like the, the theory that airplanes, they crash one after the other because suddenly the pilot, if they see a pilot crashing on purpose.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They think that maybe it's okay to do that and then they do it again. It's, it's kind of.

[Big T]

Wait, run that binder.

[Brandon Walker]

I've always subscribed to the theory PFT. If Flight 219 crashes on Tuesday and I'm on 219 on Wednesday, I feel better than ever. There's no way 219 is crashing tomorrow. Right.

[Big T]

I tend to subscribe to that as well.

[PFT Commenter]

I would think the same thing. It's like, okay, there's going to be, you know, increased scrutiny on whatever the protocols are, whatever caused that to pay more attention to kind of a wake up call.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But they, they said that they had it backed up by, by stats and data. When you look at least like worldwide that, that if a pilot sees another pilot intentionally crash their plane, they think, oh I could do that.

[Brandon Walker]

How often are pilots intentionally crashing planes?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Big T]

The Malaysian guy.

[Brandon Walker]

Well, we don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, we think there's an update on that.

[Big T]

Really?

[PFT Commenter]

There's an update. Yeah, they're doing it day. Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

What a random time to have an update on.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, well it's this whole week they're doing a search on it. So this Australian dude, he, he became obsessed with finding out where this plane went. And using open source data he put together a peer reviewed paper that came out in 2023 claiming that he knew exactly where it crashed. And then he, he put it all into facts and easily like verifiable information taken from the, the, the flight systems of the plane as well as like the satellite companies that, that monitor the pinging of some of the local, some of the devices that are on board that plane. He claims he found a spot that's not far from where they last searched for it, but they didn't search for it there. It's way off the coast of Western Australia and they, they have a team out there right now and it's a no recovery, no pay operation. So they're doing it on spec. This guy got together like a big underwater search team with unmanned underwater vehicles and they're going down beneath the, the, the ocean and they're scanning the entire floor in this one area. And if they find it, then they get paid by I guess the government but if they don't find it, they don't get any money. The government of who, Malaysia, I think is in charge of it.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay. All right.

[PFT Commenter]

But it's a, it's a massive operation and it's expensive to, to have these crews out there on these big ships and send all these drones underwater.

[Brandon Walker]

And if they don't find it, they don't get nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

They don't get nothing.

[Big T]

But we are pretty sure the guy crashed it on purpose, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty sure, yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Are we. I didn't know that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, we're pretty sure. We're like the people that, that tend to be experts in this field are. They seem like they're 100% sure, but they could always get something wrong.

[Big T]

I don't like that. In just what way the thought of that. You could just get on a plane and the pilot could decide, you know what, and everybody's going to die.

[Brandon Walker]

We're going down.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's probably the, the highest risk of anything when it comes to airline travel. Now if you look at all the, the major crashes worldwide, it's either bad pilot error or it's a pilot that did something on purpose.

[Big T]

What happened with the one in India where they, they got up like 500ft and then crashed?

[PFT Commenter]

They're still looking into that right now. They haven' out the final report yet. And that one's actually interesting because it's the, the government of India has dragged their feet on a lot of the process and they're not being super cooperative. And they're doing that because it seems like the investigators are pinning it on the pilot and the Indian government doesn't want that associated with them. It's like, no, this guy. Nobody in India would do something like that. Indian airlines would not have a pilot that did that. So they're, they're kind of, kind of stonewalling the investigation a little bit. But the speculation is that one of the two pilots hit the fuel cutoff switch a few seconds after takeoff. And then by the time the other pilot realized what was going on, it was too late to get the engines fully recovered to the point where it's going to generate lift. That's what they think is happening. So there's that, there's MH370 and there was the, the German wings pilot back in like, I don't know, it was about 10, 12 years ago that did it. But for the most part, planes are very safe. Unless you have a pilot that is.

[Brandon Walker]

So I think we should be able to meet our pilot. Yeah, I agree I'd like to be able to look him in the eye.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you watch the. The Nathan Fielder show?

[Brandon Walker]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

So his whole last season was about airlines and airline safety.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And.

[PFT Commenter]

And his big point was that if you. If you check a box saying that you're being evaluated or treated for a mental health issue.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If it's anxiety, if it's depression, if it's autism, if it's adhd, any of these things, they're probably going to just take away your pilot license. And so what we have, which I understand, like, if you have a pilot that is severely, you know, dealing with some real issues, but what it actually turns into, into practice is that you have a lot of pilots that have these issues that just don't report them and they don't get treatment for them because if you go to see a shrink, they can take away your whole job. So the logical outcome to that would be you should just mandate every pilot to go see a shrink.

[Big T]

That was going to be my next question. Why isn't that.

[PFT Commenter]

That seems, like, mandatory. The safest outcome. I don't know why they don't do it.

[Brandon Walker]

What if it then becomes the shrink? We have rogue shrinks who tell pilots to crash planes. Then we got issues.

[PFT Commenter]

Then that would be a problem. Yeah, like psychiatrists, psychologists have these, like, homicidal tendencies.

[Brandon Walker]

Sure, sure, sure. And then they're like, you know what? Maybe your life doesn't sound that great. Maybe next time you're up in the air, it could be over real quick.

[Big T]

That could be an interesting book and. Or film.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

A psychologist who's telling these pilots to kill people.

[PFT Commenter]

All your passengers hate you.

[Brandon Walker]

A psychologist who's actually, like, a serial killer but has never killed a single person in their life.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. You know. You know, they all talk about you behind your back when you're up there in the cockpit. They make fun of your glasses when you fly.

[Big T]

What would be the. Won't be a title for that?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm trying to think of one that goes along with Scream. I don't know. I'll get back to you.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, I'll get back to you, too. Psych out was coming to my mind, but I gotta work on that.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, Put a pin in that one.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Well, let's. Let's circle back.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Brandon Walker]

And I mean circle back. I mean, like, in months.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we.

[Brandon Walker]

We actually won't circle back by summer.

[PFT Commenter]

Put that one in a holding pattern.

[Big T]

Yeah, that could be.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, how about this? The black box.

[Voicemail Callers]

Why?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, maybe the psychiatrist office. The walls are painted black.

[Big T]

Well, you're familiar with the Black Box on a plane.

[Brandon Walker]

Yes. Okay, right. But that could just be any movie. Plane Crashes. Not really. A psychological thriller about plane crashes.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, sorry. That was good.

[Brandon Walker]

I did like it. We're riffing, are we not?

[PFT Commenter]

That one has both plain connotations, and it also has just sinister kind of. Because the Black Box sounds spooky.

[Brandon Walker]

All I'm saying is this. If you tell me the premise is black, but if you say the title is Black Box, I think, oh, God. Did the Black Box take over the plane and kill everybody?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that's another good one.

[Brandon Walker]

That's so. So I think let's save the Black Box as a title until we have a plot about the Black Box.

[PFT Commenter]

Or what about Killer Autopilot with the homicidal autopilot?

[Brandon Walker]

Now? We.

[Jan Macrodosing]

We're.

[Voicemail Callers]

We're.

[Brandon Walker]

Everything's gold here. It's all gold.

[PFT Commenter]

This is good. We're giving away all the good stuff. I'm going to put that in my movie. That's Big T. I will take credit for that.

[Big T]

I. There's a new movie on Netflix. Have you. That I'm really interested in or. It's a. It's a limited series called his and Hers.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't watch Netflix.

[Big T]

So a detective and a reporter who also happen to be exes, find themselves on opposite sides of a murder investigation in their small Georgia town.

[Brandon Walker]

Now, why didn't they put this show on free tv?

[Big T]

I don't know. I mean, you're talking to guys who love putting stuff on Netflix.

[PFT Commenter]

Has nobody made this before? This seems like.

[Big T]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you mean by opposite sides? Like, one's the murderer.

[Big T]

I don't know. I'm reading you what I've got.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe two cops with different theories.

[Big T]

Yeah. I don't know. It's six episodes. I think I'm gonna dig into that later. By the way, someone. Someone clearly made a call.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I. I opened up Netflix last night, and that was kind of spooky because my own voice started autoplaying to me.

[Big T]

That's why I have spooky or awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, it was spooky. It's weird. It's. It's definitely weird. I thought I was in the wrong app. I was like, maybe I opened up YouTube. Maybe I. Maybe I. I don't know. I. Maybe my TV is playing podcasts now. But, like, when you open up Netflix, which is a dedicated button on your remote.

[Brandon Walker]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

And then you hear your own voice immediately talking to you. That is a. I think I'm Dead moment.

[Brandon Walker]

Is that why you overslept?

[PFT Commenter]

That might be why. That. And also Zach, because Zach did it yesterday. So subtly in the back of my head, I was like, oh, I can oversleep.

[Brandon Walker]

That can do it.

[Big T]

I have macro blocked on TikTok because I can't be scrolling and just have myself pop up. It freaks me out.

[Brandon Walker]

Really. It delights me.

[Big T]

Really.

[Brandon Walker]

I adore it. Whenever we watch these football games on Fox and whatever, and they have the commercials for FS1 for the Morning show, and every time the commercial pops up, I stop my. I stop everything I'm doing, look at it, and tell my wife if somebody's in the room.

[Big T]

Well, that's different.

[Brandon Walker]

Hey, hey, hey, wife, watch this.

[Big T]

That's different because you're on a commercial during, like, an NFL game.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, but it's the same. Same premise, right?

[Big T]

No, like, if I'm scrolling and I'm watching.

[Brandon Walker]

You know, when our TikToks pop up, me and you. I watch them occasionally.

[Big T]

I. I can't.

[Brandon Walker]

You can't do it?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I watch all of those, by the way.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When it's like, speak when you see something.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, we speak the whole time.

[PFT Commenter]

And you usually speak.

[Brandon Walker]

And people still mad about it, by the way. Yeah.

[Big T]

A year later, still mad.

[Brandon Walker]

People melt down. What the are you doing? You're talking.

[PFT Commenter]

You have a full conversation about the first guy that pops up and why you're not speaking.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, about him. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good.

[Big T]

We've got some good ones coming.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you.

[Big T]

I think the off season's going to be big.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So, Brandon, what about when Gus Johnson says your name? I.

[Brandon Walker]

That would be awesome. I've never seen it happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Brandon Walker]

I've never seen it happen.

[PFT Commenter]

He says my name sometimes.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. And that was. And that was passive aggressive as fuck. And that was. I didn't. I didn't enjoy.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a direct shot.

[Brandon Walker]

I didn't enjoy that at all.

[PFT Commenter]

His direct shot.

[Big T]

I don't understand.

[PFT Commenter]

Wake up Barstool with Dave Portnoy, Big Cat. Pft.

[Big T]

Oh, does he say that?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, occasionally. But yeah, The Netflix thing was actually. That was spooky when I opened it up last night, and it was just me and Big Cat just chopping it up.

[Brandon Walker]

It's the boys.

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty crazy. Okay, so we got Brandon in studio. Brandon, we're gonna use your time here wisely because I know that you have mostly sports to get to. I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy, busy morning.

[Brandon Walker]

Of course.

[PFT Commenter]

Where you slept in as well.

[Brandon Walker]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And you didn't go on your show.

[Brandon Walker]

It was a sleeping in day.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a migraine day.

[Brandon Walker]

I had a migraine this morning. That's why I miss wub and I didn't know you woke up to the snow. I drove here and it was 38 degrees, 40 degrees. I got here, went and relaxed. Came out three hours later. And the ground is covered.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh yeah, yeah. Roads are bad this morning.

[Brandon Walker]

I didn't even know it was supposed to snow.

[PFT Commenter]

I was skidding everywhere. Yeah, the weird systems in my car were turned on that I didn't know existed. It was not an easy commute into the office more but it's kind of nice to wake up to surprise snow.

[Brandon Walker]

So the El Camino didn't.

[PFT Commenter]

Isn't the snow vehicle by the El Camino.

[Brandon Walker]

It's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's on bricks until about March, maybe April.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

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[Brandon Walker]

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[Big T]

Can we do two quick stories real quick that I need to know if y' all have seen.

[Brandon Walker]

This is going to be quick.

[Big T]

The first one we talked about with Aaron. Have you seen Eric Adams crypto?

[PFT Commenter]

I did see Eric Adams crypto alleged pump and dump yesterday.

[Big T]

That was going to solve anti Semitism.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Did it work?

[Big T]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

He asked Brandon, did it work for you?

[Brandon Walker]

I didn't wake up. I'm not anti semitic this morning.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Brandon Walker]

Or not as.

[PFT Commenter]

Not as much.

[Brandon Walker]

Not as much.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Brandon Walker]

What? How would it. How would it cure antisemitism?

[Big T]

He said we are launching the NYC Token.

[Brandon Walker]

Sure.

[Big T]

Which is a new token built to fight the rapid spread of anti Semitism and anti Americanism across the country and now in New York City. And then he rug pulled it and made $3 million and completely tanked NYC token.

[Brandon Walker]

Wow. So he now on the backside he was probably going to contribute to anti Semitism, anti Americanism.

[Big T]

One would could reasonably conclude that if.

[PFT Commenter]

You bought a single cent of Eric Adams exclusive NYC token, you do not have any right to be upset about it getting rug pulled. That's a Hundred percent skill issue.

[Brandon Walker]

I don't understand falling for one of those now.

[Big T]

Me neither.

[Brandon Walker]

I don't understand falling for one of them ever, but at least in the height of it, you could argue. Okay, well, they're trying to keep up with something now. We're a year or two years past this whole thing, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

I didn't even know you could pull it off anymore.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, apparently you can if you have a big enough platform. Brandon, you could do a rug pull. Yeah, yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Walt Coin. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Walk on would be good. No, it's Eric Adams doing this. What did you expect from. From Mayor Eric Adams? He is probably the most likely guy to do this.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Oh, that's a good category. Likely guys to do a rug pull.

[PFT Commenter]

Who haven't done one yet in 2026.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Let's see.

[Brandon Walker]

Like, who's gonna. Who's on the watch list to do a rug pull?

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, there is trying to think.

[Big T]

Of who has done it.

[PFT Commenter]

There's an obvious one.

[Brandon Walker]

I'm surprised. Like those. Those. Those shows that people love on, like, Ian, bro. Not Ian, Bravo. But hgtv, like Chip and Joanna for a good example. I feel like they could do one easily.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

If they put some out there, like, do this, and I think they can make so much money.

[Big T]

Who's your obvious one?

[PFT Commenter]

Mincy.

[Big T]

Okay, well, is that even a rug pull?

[Brandon Walker]

I mean, like, Mincy, if Mincy asked you to borrow a quarter for lunch, that's a rug pull because you never get.

[Big T]

That's a rug trip.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I don't think it would be Mincy knowingly doing it, but there would be somebody that, like, became Minsy's confidant.

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, yeah. Somebody could get to Mincy and tell him, hey, by the way, you got the platform. Oh, no, there's definitely. There's definitely some Ole Miss lawyers right now that have their eyes on mincing to get in there, for sure. Hey, I got. I got. I got four seats to the game this Saturday, but I want to talk to you about something. Can you get to Oxford Friday night and let's talk about something? And by Sunday, we're all. We're all on mini coin wondering what happened.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean, everybody. What would happen would be we would. We would understand what was going on in the office, and then we'd have to get in on it because we'd be like, what if this Minsy coin just goes to the moon?

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And so we'd all buy it. Mincy would actually take money from us. I think. I think the biggest Losers in that transaction would probably be Dave and Big Cat because they would buy a shitload of Mincy coin.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Kind of as a joke just to see what happens with it. And then it would all disappear within a day. And then that would make Minty's job secure job security even higher afterwards.

[Brandon Walker]

I also feel like Mincy could steal $2 million from everybody here. And by Thursday of next week, there would be no evidence of the money. Like, he wouldn't even know where it is. Yeah, he would. He would just be. He would still be living how he is. He would still be getting free meals. He would have no idea where that $2 million is.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I agree. Who do you think, besides Mincy outside these walls, what celebrity is, is. Is primed, hot and ready to pull this off.

[Big T]

Has there been a Mr. Beast coin?

[Brandon Walker]

That's a perfect one.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I. I feel like there has to be.

[Big T]

He's been talking about a financial venture recently.

[PFT Commenter]

There has to have been a Mr. Beast coin.

[Brandon Walker]

I saw him preaching today that he doesn't have any money. He's in negative in his bank account.

[Big T]

You're kidding.

[Brandon Walker]

That's what he said.

[Big T]

If that's true, he should go to prison.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

His whole thing is that he. He always talks about, like, I'll make $1 million on a video, and then I put 990,000 back into the next video. Like, he's. All of the money he makes just goes to his content.

[Big T]

But even if that's true, he should still be making, well, seven figures.

[Brandon Walker]

He's also not just making money from the videos anymore because he's got Mr. Chocolate. Yeah, he's got chocolate. He's got burgers. He's got all these things. Like, he's making money from a lot of avenues. So he's. He's probably lying.

[Mackenzie]

It's like, you're welcome, guys. I'm putting all of the money I make back into the videos. Like, girl, get out of debt.

[Brandon Walker]

That's what you should do. Try that for like a month. Take every cent you make.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Put it back into the next macro.

[PFT Commenter]

Dosing episode and then just. But what happens after that?

[Brandon Walker]

Don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Then the videos just fall off big time.

[Brandon Walker]

There's no way for me to know.

[PFT Commenter]

What about Diego Pavia?

[Brandon Walker]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

I could see a Pavia coin.

[Voicemail Callers]

Right.

[Big T]

But is anyone buying into that?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, because he's not going back to college.

[Brandon Walker]

I definitely think people, like, there's. There's people that still, like, want to be Johnny, want to be Pavia. Like there's, there's a subset of 18 to 22 year old dudes that. Yeah, yeah, they would buy into that.

[PFT Commenter]

But that seems like it would also be a good loophole for nil, for, for like paying a college football player.

[Brandon Walker]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

If you found, if there was an alumni base, like which alumni base would be. Oh, dude, that suited five star coin to construct.

[Big T]

LSU and Auburn.

[Brandon Walker]

Ole Miss. Ole Miss would do it.

[PFT Commenter]

I was thinking Stanford because of all the, all the tech people out there.

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, I'm just thinking of the people that will willingly give their money and not even worry about a return.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Yes. That's an interesting thing.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Ohio State. Like if you told, if you told a Texas A and M fan, hey, we're gonna get three five stars, but we got to go along with the scam they got going to where we just give them free money. Yeah, done. So where do I sign up?

[PFT Commenter]

Because I was thinking that if you had, if you had the tech people behind you, they could come up with all the technology behind the coin. But I feel like there's enough people spread out out there that there's certainly some LSU people, some A and M people that have experience in the crypto world.

[Brandon Walker]

I'm not even sure you're going to need an, an app or anything. I don't, I don't. I think you just need the concept.

[PFT Commenter]

You just need a website.

[Brandon Walker]

You just need a way to get the money from them to you because nothing else has to happen.

[PFT Commenter]

You just have a fake chart on the website of the value of the coin. And it's really just a video.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. And it lasts a shutterstock image.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's a, it's a four day long video that just shows the price going up.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the price going way, way down eventually.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then he's got all the money. That would be a really, that would be a very tough way to, to, to catch somebody cheating. I don't think, I don't think the powers that be behind college football have the, have the ability, the time or the wherewithal or the expertise are really the inclination to.

[Brandon Walker]

You covered every single way they could possibly care about it. And you're right. They would not. There is no. College football has no governing body really to step into these things. They can say, hey, stop. But that doesn't matter anymore.

[PFT Commenter]

That might happen. So Big T, is there another story?

[Big T]

Yeah, I had one more story. Has this cross Jaws desk. The Florida gubernatorial candidate who wants to tax only fans earnings at 50%.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big T]

And this guy Also, a new. A report came out yesterday. So he then got into it with Sophie Rain, who is one of the like top only fans people. And it was to the extent that I think it actually might be an elaborate ad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

For her only fans.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

But then a report also came out yesterday of the Florida governor race fundraising numbers. Byron Donalds, who's a congressman from Florida, he's the favorite, has raised $45 million. Another Republican has raised 5 million. A couple Democrats, one's raised 3 million, another 300,000. Do you know how much James Fishback, this is the guy who is doing the only fans thing. Do you know how much he has raised?

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big T]

$950. Okay. Not thousand.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, 950.

[Big T]

$950. He says that's not true. But there was, they had like documents to.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you have to file that.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So wait, the one guy has 45 million Byron Donalds? Yeah. That's a, that's a huge lead.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

It also feels like he's just doing tricks on it at this point. Like he'd probably get by with like 15 million.

[Big T]

I mean, he's leaving nothing to chance, it seems.

[Brandon Walker]

And he's a Republican.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like if you, if you make a major part of your platform taxing only fans at 50, you are a heavy only fans user.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like you're, you're pissed off. You're spending so much money on OnlyFans that you're pissed off at the girls that do it. And so you just want to see them less happy because they're taking all your money.

[Brandon Walker]

So what you're really doing is pushing reform of lowering the prices of only fans.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Is what you're saying.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, not really lowering the prices, but you're just lowering how much of your money they get to keep.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

You're mad at yourself because you're, you're writing checks for $5,000 a month to OnlyFans and you're like, God damn, they're stealing all my money. And they're not giving me enough. I'm not getting enough picks. I'd like to see them have some have less of that money that, that I give them.

[Brandon Walker]

At the risk of opening up a conversation that probably should have and could have and would have and did happen three years ago. I don't get, I don't get being an only fan subscriber. You. There's so much free stuff out there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Brandon Walker]

You just go do that. And, and if you, if you're an only fan subscriber of 10 gals. Right. What?

[Voicemail Callers]

Why?

[Brandon Walker]

Why? Why is my question. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So I can say that I have Never gone to OnlyFans.com Sure. I've never gone to the app.

[Brandon Walker]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

I know people that, that have used it. And the one thing I will say about OnlyFans, at least from my, my cursory understanding of it, is that it seems like a more ethical way to do porn.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Because in what way? Run that by me in the porn industry. I'm saying for the, for the creator.

[Big T]

You're saying it's, it's on their terms.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, for the creator. Because the, the porn industry for, for decades has been dominated by people that just kind of.

[Brandon Walker]

They're predatory, exploiting.

[PFT Commenter]

They exploit. They find young women who typically don't have the best family life. Sometimes they're runaways, sometimes they have drug issues, alcohol issues, self esteem. They find them and they make these films with them, pay them pennies on the dollar and they keep all the money. And the girls usually walk away with. With pretty much nothing. Like, I think the story was Mia Khalifa made. She did, she did porn for like a year.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I think she made like maybe $20,000. And then her videos are everywhere and everyone knows her as, as the porn girl, but she didn't, she didn't capitalize on that at all. With only fans, you are your own boss and so you keep most of that money. So I feel like it might be it's better for the creator.

[Brandon Walker]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But I don't understand the, the concept of like paying 10 girl, 10 girls, 20 bucks a month, 50 bucks a month, 100 bucks a month to just kind of feel like you're on the inside.

[Brandon Walker]

Right. And I guess it would.

[PFT Commenter]

Choice of words I just used.

[Brandon Walker]

It would offer a more personal connection. You feel like you are that she's making it for you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

But then you realize she's one of the top 10 OnlyFans creators. She's making it for 3 million people.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And the guy that, that or the person that DMs you back when you ask them, hey, how's my dick look? That's. That's a dude.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's usually her boyfriend or business manager that's sending all these, all these dms for her.

[Mackenzie]

I was just going to say, I think a lot of men who turn OnlyFans models in that way are longing for a connection with a woman and hence will pay the premium prices to like chat with them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

And get like extra content, which is so disgusting and sad. But I think a lot of the time it's like the loneliness gets you.

[PFT Commenter]

It's lonely guys. And then they fall into that world where their only interaction with women are with their only fans. Models.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then they start to hate women because they're like they're all onlyfans models because that's the only ones that they talk to. And then you go online and you see all the replies. They're all from onlyfans, bots and models. And then you, you think that real women don't exist anymore. Then you start to hate women. That's a dark place to go.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay. All right. And then you get behind the, the wheel of a plane and you crash it on purpose.

[PFT Commenter]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Big T]

Don't say that.

[PFT Commenter]

That. Well, planes don't have wheels, so. Brandon.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. The wheel crank, you turn the keys.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Put it in drive, go straight off.

[PFT Commenter]

The gas it up.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, some plane. Yeah. The small planes do have wheels, but not the ones that you fly, you know, commercially. All right, Brandon, we had you on here to, to talk a little college football. We talked about the, the Diego coin which I, he could still do it. I, now that I think about it, it doesn't matter that he's not at Vandy anymore. He, he.

[Brandon Walker]

I think it needs to be an incoming freshman though. Like I think you need to, you need to have hope of a, like a five star super prospect like Bryce Underwood in Michigan.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Bryce Coyne would have gone crazy this time last year.

[Big T]

So. Jared Curtis, the new Vandy.

[Brandon Walker]

Jared Curtis. Yeah. Although I'm not sure Vandy people are the best target audience for this.

[PFT Commenter]

Nikoin, for Nico. I think that there's. That's going to happen. I'd like to call my shot. That will happen. If not this year, the next year it's going to happen.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But let's get your thoughts on the Indiana cheating allegations that are going around. They've. They've become so good and so dominant, especially that last victory over Oregon, that people are now convinced that they're cheating, they're doing something nefarious. And they point to the first plays of many of their games where they, they typically excel. And they look at the first plays of games like ODU where they get gashed and they try to compare and see what's going on here. Are they hacking into something? Is Kurt Signetti a secret spy? Does he have a team of people that are. That are pouring over film? Does he have a team of. Of Michigan assistance? Is that what's going on?

[Brandon Walker]

That's kind of where my mind goes. First of all, let Me say for all the Indiana fans listening who are just absolutely on pins and needles. I don't. I'm pretty sure Indiana is not cheating. That being said, I would like to conduct this conversation as if they are fair because the Kurt Signetti story is so much more interesting if he is using spy equipment, if he is, if he has hacked the mainframe, if he is doing all of these things. Like one of the allegations is that they've hacked the system that teams put their script on or put their practice film on. Stuff like that. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's. What is it called?

[Brandon Walker]

Catapult, Something like that. To which I, to which I immediately say, just don't put it on there. Don't put your stuff on there. Seems like you've just won the war at that point.

[Big T]

Real quick. But just on that, the, the evidence I think people would use, other than them going from the worst team ever to kicking everybody's ass, is they have four interceptions this year on a team's first like two or three plays.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, it's pretty unbelievable.

[Big T]

And then Old Dominion, which I think the implication was Old Dominion doesn't have the money to use that technology.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Their first play was a 75 yard touchdown, which is compelling.

[Brandon Walker]

It's interesting.

[PFT Commenter]

So there's that point of it. And there's also. When you look at the recruiting rankings for every team in college football, when you look at the portal rankings.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Indiana compared to every other team that's gone this far in terms of talent is a massive, Massive outlier.

[Brandon Walker]

Massive. You can't say the word massive. Big enough.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. It, it, it sticks out on a chart. The only other team that's gone to the NCAA championship game or the college football championship game that has like something. I forget what the number is. Let's just say for argument's sake, lower than 95 out of 100 rating was the University of Michigan.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

A couple of years ago.

[Brandon Walker]

So. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And Indiana is about 20 times lower on the charts than that team was.

[Brandon Walker]

So here's my one thing about this whole thing. If they, if Indiana has gotten to the top of the sport by cheating again, Big capital I, capital F, If. Doesn't that make sense? Because Michigan got to the top of the sport with their own cheating scandal a couple of years ago and nothing happened. Nothing. NCAA said nothing, did nothing. Nobody. No, nobody got in trouble. Connor Stallions has a ban or whatever. Who cares? He's a low level assistant who is helping the operation. I like in a world where the NCAA is toothless and was unable to Stop. Unable or unwilling to stop. Michigan. Why wouldn't somebody crop up in the aftermath of that and say, well, all right, if you can get away with.

[PFT Commenter]

It, we'll just do it, we can do better.

[Brandon Walker]

So it is a, it's a, it's a fun, it's a fun little theory. Indiana, because in the world that we live in and where Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama, and then, you know, seven or eight schools get every best player. Every, every best player. Every best player goes to those schools and it trickles down from there. Indiana hacking mainframes would be, it would be a delightfully perfect story.

[Big T]

Do you think that's still true, though? I don't think that's true anymore. Which I actually think makes what Indiana is doing even more impressive.

[Brandon Walker]

So I think it is true. It doesn't matter as much anymore. If you looked at high school recruiting this year, I feel like the same schools are still dominating it, but it is offset by the fact that those, those five star recruits are transferring a year in, a year in anyway. So it doesn't really matter. Disperses the talent further than it would be.

[Big T]

That's part of it. But I do think like just more teams are getting players.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, but there's more ways to get players.

[Big T]

Yes. Yeah, but even out of high school, like nobody, Georgia doesn't is never going to have a roster like they had in 21 and 22 again because the four stars that would go to be backups aren't going to do that anymore. They're going to go start it. Yeah, name your place.

[Brandon Walker]

Well, that and the four and the four and five stars. They don't just run in the national championship game as freshmen. Be like, yeah, I get to play now. They get to the national championship game and they're like, all right, well, I'm training Vern. They're not, they're not going to play me. So yeah, I do think there's definitely the dispersal of talent is way wider than it used to be, for sure.

[Big T]

And I think that makes Indiana season more impressive because like when LSU beat the hell out of everybody, there were seven teams that had the best players. Now everybody has good, not everybody, but the teams they're playing have good players.

[Brandon Walker]

Can I tell you the non cheating secret to Indiana success though? They got the quarterback right. That's number one.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

You get the quarterback right, everything falls in a line behind it. They got the quarterback right. They decided to go all in on the junior super, junior super seniors. So Everybody there is 22, 23, 24 years old and they don't make mistakes. And that's so like, are they capable of the individual super play that you know, a five star 19 year old is capable of? Not all the time, you know, Mendoza is. But they just make the right plays every single time. And it's almost boring how good they are because you're not going to see the Braxton Miller spin move ever. You're not going to see these, these crazy things. You're just going to see 100% perfect execution without a mistake. And that's. It boggles the mind how mistake free they play.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

And I don't think cheating would help you develop that. That's just elite coaching.

[Big T]

Well, it's like Barry Bonds, right. If Barry Bonds never did steroids.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big T]

He probably still would have been one of the best baseball players of all time.

[Brandon Walker]

But he did steroids and it turned him into the best hitter of all time. Yeah. Which is. But he cheated to do that. I like that, I like that explanation because I am very, whenever I put out baseball lists and they're like, hey, Barry Bonds, best hitter of all time? Like, no, he's not. Up until 35 years old, he was a very good hall of Fame player, but he wasn't what he became after the, after the cheating. So maybe that's, that's a good.

[Big T]

He would have been still in the hall of Fame. No question.

[Brandon Walker]

He was a Hall of Famer before he ever touched a steroid. There's, it's documented that we think he started steroids in 99. I think he was 35 years old. He had a Hall of Fame career already before that.

[Big T]

I mean, it's comical if you look at him, it's ridiculous from 1991 and then look at him in 2004, 86 to 99.

[Brandon Walker]

He's a, he's a skinny, you know, speedy outfielder who can do a lot of things and he's still in 40 bases a year, got a lot of power. And then 35 years old, when every single player for the history of baseball starts to decline, he turns into a robot. And some people today are like, wow, he's the best. Like, all right, we know what, we know what happened.

[Big T]

It's a crying shame that he broke.

[Brandon Walker]

Hank Aaron is the home run king listening.

[Big T]

I'm using air quotes. Hank Aaron's home run record.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I think, yeah, Barry Bonds was one of the best hitters of all time before the Juice when he was on the Pirates.

[Brandon Walker]

But he was like one of the 50 best hitters of all time. He wasn't Correct. We just said that he was.

[Big T]

He went from. He went from Ronald Acuna to Shohei Ohtani.

[Brandon Walker]

He went from Ronald Okuna to shohei Ohtani times 2.

[Big T]

Right.

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[PFT Commenter]

So I think tying it back to the. The University of Indiana. Yeah, I think that they're not cheating. I think that they have a very good coaching staff. I think they. Their coaching staff prepares incredibly. I think they've thrown money into their program for the first time ever.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because they had a belief in Signetti, and they're using those resources. You can. You can go back to when Signetti was at jmu. He was on the sidelines at one point during a game, grabbing an assistant's phone and then showing the referee.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like a screenshot of a live broadcast. If you think that's cheating.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Then certainly. Yeah. Okay, he. He did have an iPhone that was tuned into ESPN plus at the moment, but if they had a massive surveillance system, I don't think he would have to have somebody watching the game on ESPN on their iPhone on the sideline.

[Brandon Walker]

That being said, Tennessee fan, JMU fan, Mississippi State fan, if you, if you were guaranteed a national title in the next five years, but your school had become the dirtiest, most cheating organization in America to do it, we all signed that paper immediately, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay.

[Voicemail Callers]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

A thousand percent.

[Big T]

I want them to be cheating because I think it makes it funnier and also just way more interesting.

[Brandon Walker]

And you want Indiana to be cheating.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay.

[Big T]

I want Tennessee to cheat, too, but I.

[Brandon Walker]

As far as this story goes, it's just a better story of Indiana's cheating their ass off.

[Big T]

If they're not cheating at all, which there's a great likelihood they're not, who knows? It's the most unbelievable story in the history of sports.

[Brandon Walker]

That's correct.

[Big T]

I think it's. It's more than the Miracle on Ice, more than anything you want to put out there. Indiana didn't. They weren't even, like, I remember in 2019 they made it to the Gator bowl against Tennessee, and their fans treated that like that was just an unbelievable. We were pissed off to be in the Gator bowl. And they were like, this is so amazing that we're in. I think they went 8 and 4, 9 and 3. They're like, this is the most unbelievable season we've ever seen. And that. That was five years ago.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Like, it's, it's unfathomable what they've done.

[Brandon Walker]

Right. Cheating. The movie of Indiana football is so much more compelling if there's a cheating.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

Now we got, we got Oscar buzz.

[Big T]

Now because I don't even know what to make of it. If there's no cheating.

[Brandon Walker]

Who's. Who's. I had this argument with somebody who's playing Signetti in the movie because it's just, it's five years down the road. Affleck, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, if this was, if this was 20 years ago, Tommy Lee Jones, I think, would be a great sign.

[Big T]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But I think he's. He's aged out of that a little bit.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Tommy Lee Jones would have been a great one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

I could see, I think, Affleck in five years, you know, was he going to be 60 or 55? Like, he, he could be Signetti, bring.

[PFT Commenter]

Spacey back, surface time, the role he was born to play.

[Brandon Walker]

Actually, let's, let's use Nick Cage. He's doing, he's doing football coaches these days.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm excited to watch that. Are you the Madden movie?

[Brandon Walker]

I am excited to watch it in the sense that any movie about Madden I think I'm signing up for, but just the pictures and the makeup of Cage trying to be madness. The most ridiculous thing you've ever seen.

[PFT Commenter]

It does look funny. So if Indiana is. If they're actually cheating, if they're doing, like, weird surveillance stuff, electronic cyber warfare. I do think that the one coach that's best prepared to handle that is Mario Cristobal.

[Brandon Walker]

In what way?

[PFT Commenter]

He was going to be a Secret Service agent.

[Brandon Walker]

Was he?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he had a job offer back in the 90s.

[Brandon Walker]

Oh. He uses his, his, his espionage skills. Everything, every skill he accrued in trying to get that to, to overcome Indiana.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think that there's a man in college football better equipped to set up a secure perimeter than Mario Cristobal, so.

[Brandon Walker]

Especially Jack Bauer.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he just, he establishes his perimeter. Nothing's getting in, nothing's getting out.

[Brandon Walker]

Dude. If he's on the sideline and he calls Chloe at ctu. Yeah, Chloe. It's Third and seven.

[Big T]

Now I know what you're talking about, but for the audience, like it's from a film. If I, if, if I know. But if someone else were to guess.

[Brandon Walker]

The TV show 24, which by the.

[Big T]

Way, I should have gotten there from.

[Brandon Walker]

Jack Bauer, I don't know if there's a show you'd Enjoy More than 24.

[Big T]

So my grandpa watched it when I was a kid and I would. He lived in Florida, so I go there for weeks at a time in the summer. And so I, I'm aware of it, but I was too young at that point to.

[Brandon Walker]

Is it, is it, do you think? Did you watch it at the time?

[PFT Commenter]

I watched the first season, yeah. Do you think you could not watch it? It was everywhere.

[Brandon Walker]

Correct. Do you think it's rewatchable? It's a concept that, like.

[PFT Commenter]

Rewatchable. No, but would it hold up for a first time viewer?

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

20, 26. Absolutely.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

[Big T]

So you think I would like it?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. It's a, it's a, as a concept. It doesn't have rewatch ability because it's, it's a one time experience.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

But they did do like seven seasons.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

So it's. The whole show is within 24 hours in a day.

[Brandon Walker]

20, 24. One hour episodes.

[Big T]

And. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like in real time. So each episode is one hour.

[Big T]

No, I got that. I was just confused how it stretches over seven seasons.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a great question.

[Brandon Walker]

What? Seven. Seven days?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know what what happened was.

[Big T]

So they only did three episodes a season.

[Brandon Walker]

No, no, no. Where am I, where am I missing you?

[Big T]

You said it was 24.

[Brandon Walker]

24 episodes in the season.

[Big T]

Season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big T]

Got it.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Okay. So I thought it was one day.

[Brandon Walker]

So season two would be like three years down the road. He has another crazy day.

[Big T]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll tell you what happened, Big T. This might clear things up. The first season made a fuckload of money.

[Brandon Walker]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And then they said, let's do another day. And then that was profitable. And then they're like, oh, let's do a third day.

[Brandon Walker]

It wasn't until like day four where people were like, all right, this is a crazy week. How many crazy days are we going to have here?

[Big T]

So this is a Stranger Things type deal.

[Brandon Walker]

No, no.

[Big T]

In that went on too long. It gets stinky.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Exactly. Precisely.

[Big T]

So, so would you just watch like the first two, three?

[Brandon Walker]

I would say three.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I, I dropped out after two.

[Big T]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

But season one, you would.

[Brandon Walker]

Second one is excellent. I think season two Was better than season one in my memory. And season three is still good. And then it starts to get a little silly.

[Big T]

Okay. By the way, Chat GPT gave me a couple great actors for Kurt Signetti.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Who we got?

[Big T]

J.K. simmons.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay. Yeah. All right.

[PFT Commenter]

And I watch him in anything like.

[Brandon Walker]

What'S that music movie did where he's a coach?

[Mackenzie]

Whiplash.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And then Ed Harris.

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, yeah.

[Big T]

Is my favorite on this list. Who's face I certainly recognize. Name I never would have known.

[PFT Commenter]

Has he ever played a guy that's not like a strict, rigid, buttoned up, 1950s quasi military father?

[Brandon Walker]

No. So he played the coach in radio?

[Big T]

Yep.

[Mackenzie]

He was the astronaut in Apollo 13.

[Big T]

All time. Remember the Titans? He was the coach.

[Mackenzie]

Yep.

[Brandon Walker]

What?

[Big T]

He's the assistant in Remember the Titans?

[Mackenzie]

He's. Is he Hayden Panettiere's dad?

[Brandon Walker]

No.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

No.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

No.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

No.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Brandon Walker]

Will Patton is this.

[Big T]

This guy is in Remember the Titans.

[Brandon Walker]

Ed Harris is not in Remember the Titans.

[Big T]

You know what? Now that I look at him, they must be. Are they brothers?

[Brandon Walker]

No, they don't look anything alike.

[PFT Commenter]

Damn, Big T, you lost the. No. Yes.

[Big T]

Off.

[Brandon Walker]

That was tough.

[Big T]

Hang on.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Big T, you're thinking of Patton is correct. You're likely thinking of Wood Harris, who delivered a memorable performance as the strong willed black linebacker Julius Campbell.

[Big T]

No. Although that is a great character in that movie.

[Brandon Walker]

I like Wood Harris too.

[Big T]

This guy, I mean, they look exactly.

[Brandon Walker]

Ed Harris and Will Patton do not look exactly alike.

[Big T]

Yes, they do.

[Brandon Walker]

One is haired, one is bald.

[Big T]

I don't know. Man and radio is a similar film.

[Brandon Walker]

You ever seen Truman Show?

[Big T]

Of course.

[Brandon Walker]

He's the. He's Kristoff. I know that.

[Big T]

He's the. The radio guy.

[Brandon Walker]

He's the radio guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Fun fact. We played T.C. williams. They were in our district.

[Brandon Walker]

Really?

[Jan Macrodosing]

Yep.

[Brandon Walker]

And did you remember it?

[PFT Commenter]

Herndon High School is. Is in the movie. And I think they get their ass kicked by T.C. williams. That's where I went to school. And I don't think that final score was accurate as to what the actual final score was. I think. I don't know if Herndon beat him that year, but they were. They were certainly competitive.

[Brandon Walker]

I thought. Okay, so the thing about T.C. williams that year is I thought they beat every. Everybody. I thought they killed everybody. In state championship game where they make it close. They actually won the game. 38 nothing or something like that. I thought they, they like they broken clocked everybody.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't. I don't know about the championship game. I think the matchup Against Herndon was not as bad as it seemed in the movie.

[Big T]

What are your top three football movies? Go.

[Brandon Walker]

The Friday Night Lights is number one.

[Big T]

Okay. I like that.

[Brandon Walker]

Any given Sunday to Remember the Titans. Three.

[Big T]

Wow.

[Brandon Walker]

And I'm missing one and you put me on the spot, so I might drop. Remember the titans. The final 35 minutes of Rudy is way up there, but the first hour of it is dreadful. So.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Never watched it.

[Brandon Walker]

Rudy.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

There's a subplot there of him trying to get to Notre Dame and trying to become a Notre Dame student and everything. Trying to get on the football team and then at some point he gets on the football team. The moment he gets on the football team to the end of the movie is phenomenal. Everything leading up to it is boring. Trash.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, that's my. That's my take on.

[Big T]

I don't know that I've ever watched any given Titans.

[Brandon Walker]

By the way, I would like. Remember the Titans is one of the all time most watchable movies. I love it. It is also saccharine craps at points. They have a funeral for a teammate and they sing na na na na na na na hey, hey, goodbye. Okay.

[Big T]

Somberly.

[Brandon Walker]

Right. But like, if that was their song, if that exact movie was made without the Disney vacation of it, I think it would be a top five movie of all time.

[PFT Commenter]

I saw it for the first time about four years ago.

[Brandon Walker]

Really?

[PFT Commenter]

Four years ago? Yeah. Like one that I missed again.

[Brandon Walker]

I love it. I just think there's some, like when they come on the field dancing and they're doing like, come on, dude. This is. We're just trying to Disney fight for 13 year olds.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the fact that it was a rival of mine growing up.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

From the time I was 0 until I was 18 years old, made me less likely to go watch it. It's like, I don't want to watch this commercial for tc.

[Brandon Walker]

Like, they made a movie about Starkville High School.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They stink.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So real quick, back to the IU cheating scandal. And we're saying cheating scandal. Even though there is no proof whatsoever they're cheating at anything. They're just kicking people's asses.

[Brandon Walker]

And people we're almost saying in a hopeful tone, yeah, it would be.

[PFT Commenter]

Certainly it would be funny if they were.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And also if you're an Indiana fan, it's a massive compliment that you're being accused of cheating. So I asked Brandon and Big T to come up with some ideas if you were going to be running a college football program and if you Were to cheat, how would you do it? And I guess the only limitations I'm going to put on this are it's no magic. So you can't use magic. It has to be something that would be remotely. You have an unlimited budget.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You have. You have infinity dollars to accomplish the cheating. And you can use whatever technology that you. I'll even put this on it. If you think the technology is theoretically possible, you can use that technology. You just can't invent magic.

[Brandon Walker]

All right, we're going to. I'm going to use technology for my very first thing. Okay. I think chips go on. I think I would like to have a fleet of women or men, just fleet of seductresses or seductors that are able to get to the other team. And I would like to implant run backwards chips in the running back's brain.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Brandon Walker]

I would like to put like if the star running back, if we're playing the team tomorrow, star running back has a run backwards shift that only is triggered by high frequency noise or high pitched noise. And I teach my band how to hit a note that you can't even hear with your ears, but it triggers that boom. Backwards 10 yard loss momentum.

[Big T]

Are you at all concerned that could be found out relatively easily if all of your opponents just start running backwards?

[Brandon Walker]

I think if there is a. Yeah. Now that you mentioned it. So we probably do need to use that. Discriminately. Probably need to use that.

[PFT Commenter]

Only big moments.

[Brandon Walker]

Only big moments.

[PFT Commenter]

Once a game.

[Brandon Walker]

Once again, once a game. Maybe I use the backwards chip or something like that. But I do think we. If we could find that and maybe affect the quarterback's accuracy, like throw, throw five yards off, five yards left or right. That could just be a bad game from him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, true.

[Brandon Walker]

I think these chips and the frequencies, I think we got something.

[PFT Commenter]

Or if you implanted a chip maybe into their phone or you did something, had. Had women install some sort of software into their phone as they were staying the night over. And then that phone then becomes a listening device for team meetings.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then that all gets fed back to a central system.

[Brandon Walker]

I thought about biological weaponry, you know, getting the other team sick and everything. But I feel like if I got the other team sick and gave them some sort of, you know, manatee flu or something, then they played us. And then my team gets the manatee flu. It kind of backfires.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. Yeah.

[Big T]

So that's why I went with chips the 2020 season.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And now all of a sudden we don't have bowls and now all of a sudden, Michigan doesn't have play. Ohio State. I wrote down mind control.

[Big T]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that different from the chips?

[Brandon Walker]

I think so. I think that's more of your psychological, you know, hypnosis and whatnot. I don't know how we can use that on a grand scale, but I wrote it down.

[Big T]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Again, I feel like hacking into their phones could be useful for this.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, it might emit a frequency. When they have their headphones on, they're listening to their music.

[Brandon Walker]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

They're getting something in the background that's triggering them.

[Brandon Walker]

The last thing I wrote down was cars, cars, cars. And this is an actual thing. I believe this is not just for discussion, but right now we have nil. Correct?

[PFT Commenter]

Mm.

[Brandon Walker]

25 years ago, 30 years ago. How do we cheat? Bags of cash, cars, Dodge Chargers, you know, whatnot. The NIL puts a nice big face on it. And you see somebody like Ole Miss, you see somebody like Indiana, whoever, and they're like, oh, Texas Tech. Wow. They're using their Nil to fund this and they went out and bought. NIL is just the front facing contract that a player is on. The cheating that we used to do under the table can still happen and still like if I, If Johnny Quarterback, a four star quarterback, shows up in, in Lubbock and he's got a brand new $200,000 car, you think, oh, he's just, he's spending his money poorly. He went out and spent all that NIL money and got himself a car. Cars, cars, cars. I feel like we could cheat with cars more than we've ever cheated before. Just give them every single car. We won't give them every. Give them the. Under the table should be. The table should be 30ft in the ceiling because of how much stuff is under it right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. There's. There's no questions as to where their money's coming, correct. More. I think the NIL contracts are good for having, like, players can then say, oh, I'm guaranteed this amount of money.

[Brandon Walker]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But then on that same visit that they have, they can be like, hey, here's some local business leaders that own several dealerships.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. And did you need an Adidas bag filled with $200,000 in cash?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, like, you don't, you don't have.

[Brandon Walker]

One of those, do you?

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, all right. Yeah, we'll hook them up with one of those. Yeah, no, you're right, Brandon. I think that there's, there's big room for, for cheating, for, for paying Players in ways that we're not talking about right now, because it seems like everything's legal and there's no enforcement arm that's going to look into it.

[Brandon Walker]

And that's just not part of this fun discussion. That is what I really. I really believe. We have painted a. We put a coat of paint, an nil coat of paint on college football and ignoring the fact that the cheating that was going on for years is worse than it has ever, ever been. And nobody cares about it anymore because you have the legal face of, okay, it's okay. But, like, if you peel back the layers, it would probably be a little disgusting.

[PFT Commenter]

So I had an idea, and this is kind of tying back to something that the Colts were accused of doing back in the day. I think it was Peyton Manning's rookie year. When he got to the league, he was not a very good quarterback. For his first year, the Colts were not a very good team.

[Brandon Walker]

31 touchdowns, 28 interceptions.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he put it together eventually, obviously, but there was a. There was a former player on that team that let it slip that they might have been doing something with earpieces his rookie year. So their coach, Howard Mudd, their offensive line coach, allegedly. And this is per Tariq Glenn. So Tariq Glenn said this in 2017, that they were playing on the road. It might have been Peyton's rookie year. It was really loud. Peyton hadn't mastered the silent count. So Howard Mudd had us wearing these hearing aids that were supposed to muffle the crowd while projecting the quarterback's voice. I guess that's the hearing aids that eliminate the background, which I still think could probably be useful. Yeah, they probably got a lot smaller. But I was thinking about the hearing aids and about earpieces in general. If you had an unlimited budget, if you could hire a secret shadow staff of coaches and then have them sit either up in the. The booth area with the rest of the coaches or around the stadium with binoculars. And you have each person is assigned to one player on the field.

[Brandon Walker]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And before the snap, you're talking to them and you're saying, here's the formation that they're in. Here's your responsibility.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If you were able to pull that off, I. I think it could help. Because in the NFL, quarterbacks got a lot better when they reduced the. The amount of time that a coach could. I guess they expanded the amount of time that a coach could communicate with a quarterback and they could talk to them closer to the snap or closer to the expiration of the play clock. Not Just giving them the play, but saying, here's what you're looking at on defense, if you could talk to somebody right up until the snap.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And you had a guy that's assigned a corner. Like, each cornerback has their guy. Defensive tackles have their guy. Defensive ends have their guy. On defense, I feel like that could help a lot.

[Brandon Walker]

My concern is unmitigated chaos. Eleven voices and eleven ears. The play takes, what, three or four seconds at a time? So. So. So they've all. They've all got their own separate individual instructions. If one of those guys got fooled by the formation or the play call, the whole thing falls apart, does it not? Because nobody's reacting.

[PFT Commenter]

No more so than if one guy forgets their assignment on a play.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay, all right, fair enough.

[PFT Commenter]

What about if there's a software system where a coach saw what the offense was lining up, the personnel that they had, the formation they were in, and he's got the software system. That's really fast. He clicks one button.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then that one button sends out the instructions to each position group automatically.

[Brandon Walker]

And it's just an automated voice in their ear.

[PFT Commenter]

Automated voice in their ear saying, this is what you do.

[Brandon Walker]

That might be better. Yeah, that might be better. And then if he's wrong, then every. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It could screw things up for everyone. Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. But that's why you got to have a good. Good coach in that area.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

You got to have the right guy.

[PFT Commenter]

And if you have good defensive linemen, then it doesn't matter if you screw everything else up, because they can just.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, you got to have, like, three guys that don't have an earpiece in that. Their. Their mission is just destroy Psycho. Yeah. Yeah. Just don't worry about. Don't worry about what we're talking about over here. You just go kill somebody.

[PFT Commenter]

Is my psycho. My psycho guy. Yeah. So what about. What about if you put magnets under the field and you tell all your players, hey, only wear plastic cleats.

[Brandon Walker]

And therefore, you're sticking the. You're sticking the other team to the. To the field as closely as possible.

[PFT Commenter]

Sometimes the other team has. They get the metal studs.

[Brandon Walker]

Are the magnets across 100 yards of the field or there are there magnet areas?

[PFT Commenter]

I think they should be everywhere.

[Brandon Walker]

Right.

[Big T]

Real quick, football. There's metal cleats you can wear.

[PFT Commenter]

Some of the players sometimes unscrew their cleats.

[Brandon Walker]

Seems dangerous.

[PFT Commenter]

Longer ones.

[Big T]

Yeah, but they're not metal.

[PFT Commenter]

Some of them are. When you put the studs in, they've got metal components to them.

[Brandon Walker]

I think for this exercise, can we pretend they are metal so, so that we could do the cheating?

[PFT Commenter]

Are you saying that like the, the, the studs and the screws when you're saying studs. Yeah. So you have to screw them.

[Brandon Walker]

Not talking about us.

[Big T]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

When you say the screws. I'm again not talking about when you, when you unscrew and you put in the long cleats. I'm, I'm fairly certain, at least when I played, that there was a metal component to it. I'm not saying the cleat itself.

[Big T]

You're talking about the inside that screws in.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, right. When you unscrew it and screw in another cleat, the screw, there's metal binding the rubber cleats together.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Okay, I see.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not saying that they've got like steel tips, cleats or anything.

[Big T]

I see.

[PFT Commenter]

But I think that if you had a, if you had a powerful enough magnet that was right beneath the field also.

[Brandon Walker]

Steroids. Steroids. I didn't mention steroids. Steroids aplenty.

[PFT Commenter]

Big time steroids.

[Brandon Walker]

Steroids. Because we're trying to do all these things and this technology, steroids work so well.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you think is the prevalence of steroids in college football? What's the testing policy? I don't know anything about that.

[Brandon Walker]

I don't either. And I think, I think steroids probably are still in 30% of sports. That's just a guess.

[Big T]

Baseball players are still doing it.

[Brandon Walker]

But yeah, if I'm a three star that gets there and I'm fighting for it, like, you better believe I'm doing everything I can possibly do to get on that field. So I think steroids are still, as sports has kind of turned, not turned their back on steroids, but we've got cheating in so many other areas that is kind of fallen on the back burner as far as that stuff. And football, Football's never exactly been on the forefront of getting steroids out.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no.

[Brandon Walker]

Because you know what I guess the public's feeling is, hey, you guys want to juice yourselves up, kill each other, whatever, just go out there and it's, it's a tough game.

[PFT Commenter]

And if you're inventing steroids, you're doing it under the premise of let's invent a steroid that can't be detected. Yeah, it's like all the new ones, they're at least making an attempt at that big T. Do you have any ideas to cheat?

[Big T]

Yeah. So I think we actually stumbled upon a great one today in the crypto space.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I think that's really got legs. You get your, your richest, most tech savvy alumni, you build a coin. I think that's got legs. I'm going to build a network in which most of mine. I think you've got one year. You're going all in for one year because it's not particularly sustainable.

[Brandon Walker]

So this is a peak.

[Big T]

Yeah. This is a Texas Tech. We're paying our quarterback $7 million.

[Brandon Walker]

Going all in.

[Big T]

I'm building a network of all the top agents in college football and I'm going to pay them exorbitant amounts of money to just funnel every player they have to me.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay.

[Big T]

I'm getting their top 20 guys.

[Brandon Walker]

Okay.

[Big T]

Because while some of a lot of players are still using, you know, somebody's uncle. But there are agents who have a.

[Brandon Walker]

Lot of really some sophisticated organizations out there. Yeah.

[Big T]

The best ones already been taken. We're obviously going to Connor Stallions this thing. I mean that's. It's been done so clearly it works.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big T]

They got a national championship out of it and nobody really cared.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big T]

So you do that and goes without.

[PFT Commenter]

Saying, tap your opponents, the coaching staff's communication somehow.

[Big T]

Yes, sure. Maybe in what Indiana's alleged to have done. And then I'm also going to take more money and I'm going to pay low level players on all of my top opposite opponents a ton of money to leak me their scripts, game plans.

[Brandon Walker]

Yes.

[Big T]

Everything of that nature. Because while you're four and five start your starters are making a million dollars, you're not going to really be able to get to them.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big T]

There's still walk ons on those teams.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah. And they ain't making nothing.

[Big T]

Yeah. And you only need to do if you're a, if you're a top 15, 20 team, you're only going to have three or four opponents throughout the year that you're really going to need to do that for.

[PFT Commenter]

Sure.

[Brandon Walker]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

You know the premise of the movie Shira.

[Big T]

Never heard of it.

[PFT Commenter]

Where it's women withhold sex until the violence stops.

[Brandon Walker]

Mm.

[PFT Commenter]

What if. What if you paid every woman at every school that you play to not have sex with any of the players on the football team?

[Brandon Walker]

Feel like that's messing with. It's almost like a make them transfer. That's almost like a wildlife photographer messing with the natural cycle of life. I feel like we're messing with the cycle of life.

[PFT Commenter]

You probably are.

[Big T]

But if you're like, hey also that's a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Brandon Walker]

Well you be dude.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe, maybe you you narrow it down to just a few schools and you're like, I. I want this school to. To get bad at football. Let's say. Let's say Ole Miss.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

For argument.

[Brandon Walker]

No more hit Ole Miss. That would be devastating to the local.

[PFT Commenter]

Economy and the coaching staff. And so what if you. What if you told them.

[Brandon Walker]

See why Lane left?

[PFT Commenter]

What if you told them, like, I'm going to pay you each a million dollars this year. No sex. I'm pretty sure the players would transfer.

[Brandon Walker]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

They'd be like this. I can't go.

[Brandon Walker]

How many women are we gonna have to pay?

[Big T]

Right?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I'm saying you have unlimited resources.

[Brandon Walker]

You're talking hundreds of millions of dollars.

[Big T]

And then you're also neglecting if you go to Texas Tech or Texas A and M. Yeah. And you pay every. Every girl at Texas A and M. No sex. Let's say they all adhere to. That guy's just gonna be like, well, I mean, Houston's 30 minutes away.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I guess it matters where the. Where the campus is, right?

[Big T]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

You got anything else, Big T? Any other ways to cheat?

[Big T]

No, that was pretty much it. I was operating under the framework of like, I can't say something technological if I don't understand how it works. Yeah, like, who's the. Who in the office is like, I have. It's. What's the guy's name? Nobody say his name.

[Brandon Walker]

He has talking about this office or the TV show.

[Big T]

Office. The TV show where he's like. So I have an app and every time you use it, I get five cents.

[Brandon Walker]

Ryan.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's Ryan.

[Big T]

No, it's one of the guys who comes in for. To interview when Michael leaves.

[Brandon Walker]

Oh, Robert California. No, that was.

[Big T]

It's not Robert. It's not Bob Kazamakis.

[Brandon Walker]

It's.

[Big T]

He's Will Arnett.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, it was Will Arnett.

[Big T]

Yes, that's his name.

[Brandon Walker]

I gotta go do mostly. Are we good?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're good. Brandon, thank you for joining us.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah, he was late.

[PFT Commenter]

I apologize. I was a little bit late.

[Brandon Walker]

He was late.

[Big T]

Everyone was late.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I screwed that up.

[Big T]

Except for Main Area screwed it up.

[PFT Commenter]

Now, Robert Gates.

[Big T]

Madeline was a little late too, by the way. She got off scot free.

[Mackenzie]

I was, I was. I was four minutes late. I'll be. I'll be honest with everyone. I was four minutes late because the Ubers took a while because we are in a snow. A squall at the moment.

[PFT Commenter]

That's like, what. What Hank did. Hank was late yesterday when Zach slept in, but nobody Talked about Hank.

[Mackenzie]

So I was four minutes late.

[PFT Commenter]

Robert Gates was in the CIA for about 26 years. Then he became the Secretary of defense under George H.W. bush. I believe he served under Obama as well. And he is a Indiana University alum. I'd start to look in his direction. Okay, you can. The beauty of a school that's the size of IU is that you can find anything. You can find alumni that work in any field to be like, this is the guy.

[Big T]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Right here.

[Mackenzie]

Living alumni network.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep, yep. Sure are. I don't think that they're cheating. For the record, I want to say that loud and clear. I don't think that Indiana is cheating. I think that maybe they're doing something different. I think that obviously they're doing something different, but we don't know what that is. We don't know the. The secret sauce, but apparently SIG runs like efficient, short practices.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah, by the way, that's the other thing. They never practice. They never.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not true. That they never practice.

[Big T]

I understand, but they. It's odd. It's odd.

[PFT Commenter]

I did hear from. From people around his time at JMU that he spends much less time on the practice field, like physically himself, on the practice field than most coaches.

[Big T]

And he's also said he tells his coaches, like, you can't be here after 6pm yeah, like, go be with your family. It just. It's weird. It's weird. I think that's great as long as you're not cheating.

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Oh, wow.

[PFT Commenter]

We got some breaking news. Speaking of college football.

[Big T]

It's college football breaking news.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And it's in what realm?

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, what do you want in terms of realm?

[Big T]

Is it transfer portal? Is it like calendar switches? Is it a rule change?

[PFT Commenter]

It is scheduling change.

[Big T]

Okay. It's not the nine game red shirt thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Nope.

[Big T]

A scheduling change.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Oh, you're talking about JMU playing San Diego State.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm talking about Virginia Tech has paid JMU $800,000 to cancel their game next season. Yeah, your Virginia Tech. What happened last time. This is, this is sad. It's a sad state of affairs where Virginia Tech is now afraid to play JMU to the point where they're about to write almost a seven figure check to just avoid us. I don't use the P word a lot. In fact, I've tried to spin the P word into being a positive thing because are very strong. This is a ass move. Is a punk ass move by Virginia Tech. Punk ass bitches.

[Big T]

I mean, Franklin doesn't want the smoke.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, would you.

[Big T]

I believe it was when Hypo came in. It may have been his first year. We had army on the schedule and he was like, yeah, we're not playing Army.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And we had to pay them a bunch.

[PFT Commenter]

The service academies I understand a little bit more because they're, you know, that's, it's a style of football that you do not really need to prepare for for the rest of your season. And you have to spend an entire week kind of like relearning how to play defense.

[Big T]

That 2021 Tennessee offense going up against army though, that could have been awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh yeah.

[Big T]

The defense more so where we didn't really have one.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you want to text T. Bob and see if he has any ideas for how he would cheat? I mean, he goes to lsu, probably get some ideas, right? So yeah, we're playing San Diego State instead of Virginia Tech in the stadium.

[Big T]

Where there's no shade. Do you know about that?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. And now people are going to be like, oh, JMU schedule, JMU schedule. Yeah, listen, we try to play good teams. Good teams are scared to play us.

[Big T]

Well, hey, probably good that you got Virginia Tech off the schedule then. Am I right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, good point. Yeah, good point. JMU still is the best team in Virginia. How long has it been since we lost a game to a school in Virginia? I want to say it's like 15, 20 game winning streak. Just sad. It's just sad. Big T. I also looked up some other ways that teams have cheating have cheated in the past. Are you familiar with George Hallis's dog?

[Big T]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

So George Hallis, Bears legend, had a big rivalry against, against Mr. Lambeau, Curly Lambo back in the day, back when they used to play at Wrigley Field. George Hallis allegedly had a dog that he called a timeout dog. So if he didn't have a timeout or if he didn't want to burn a timeout, he had a dog that was trained to sprint out onto the field and start running around so they'd have to stop the game.

[Big T]

I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. I mean, we're over here talking about software systems, surveillance, drones. Sometimes the best answer is just having a rascal.

[Big T]

I mean, college basketball kind of had that up until this year where they introduced the challenges where any call in the last five minutes, a coach could just tell the ref, hey, go review that and. And we. They get a free timeout. It could be the most obvious out of bounds call of all time. That, hey, we go, look at that. And they just get free timeout.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's almost brilliant in its simplicity. Like it just have a dog or a cat like the, the jets or the giants had at MetLife. They can run out an animal interference on the field. Refs are usually not going to suspect that it's anything to do with your team unless it happens all the time. And then they'll have to like. I don't know what they would do at that point if there was just like a cat infestation.

[Big T]

Probably give you a 15 yard penalty.

[PFT Commenter]

For a cat, though. They're. You can't, you can't control. If it's a dog. You could start to put it together and say, control that dog. But if it's a cat, it's like they got their own agenda. You can't train a cat. Yeah.

[Big T]

You ever had a cat?

[PFT Commenter]

I did. Yeah. When I was younger. I had two cats for a little bit.

[Big T]

What do you think?

[PFT Commenter]

Not a fan. Not a fan of cat ownership.

[Big T]

I've had one cat my parents had that was. He's good. He's still with us. And he loves you back. But yeah, the other cats, man, I mean, they don't give. They don't give a damn.

[PFT Commenter]

They don't. They don't. They. They just assume you not be there.

[Big T]

They barely tolerate you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They're like, oh, you're home.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, I'm gonna go into the other room.

[Big T]

It's a completely different experience.

[PFT Commenter]

Sometimes they want to hurt you.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like they'll use their claws if you get too close.

[Voicemail Callers]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Not for me. Cats aren't for me.

[Big T]

By the way, T. Bob's in a meeting. About what?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't need to know what that meeting is about.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big T]

So might be a web thing.

[PFT Commenter]

We just heard back. We can't show our butthole anymore on the street.

[Big T]

We're no butthole company the lawyers said no more hole.

[PFT Commenter]

That was, that was just unreal. The bunghole coming out.

[Mackenzie]

That is like my biggest fear.

[PFT Commenter]

Like your butthole coming up.

[Big T]

Oh, no.

[Mackenzie]

Just like. I mean, well, yes.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

But like, ripping my pants and like, not knowing. Sometimes at the gym I always get a weird, like, breeze. Yeah. I ripped my pants here. How do you not feel it? Like, I don't know. I ripped my pants here, like two years ago.

[PFT Commenter]

How?

[Mackenzie]

They were really cheap jeans and I wore them to their bitter end and they literally. I was talking to Mackenzie and I, like, moved. And all of a sudden I could just feel the seams. Like it was a maybe 8 inch rip down my backside. Luckily, it was in the wintertime, so I had my parka. So I just wore my parka the rest of the day as to not draw attention to my. My open ass.

[PFT Commenter]

And nobody caught you?

[Mackenzie]

I think I was talking to Mackenzie and then Cody Miles and I literally was like, holy shit, I just ripped my pants. And I think I was just like, hold on, let me put my jacket on. Like, let me shimmy this angle so no one sees it.

[Big T]

I know. Like, we work in a place that's like, you could have gone home.

[Mackenzie]

It was at night. It was like. I remember it was like after 5pm I think we were like, wrapping stuff up.

[Big T]

Oh, you for sure could have gone home.

[Mackenzie]

I know, but I had to finish. I obviously had to finish something that I. Whatever. And I was like, okay, no one's seeing this. I have my parka on. It goes down in my ankles. And then.

[Big T]

So you were wearing a coat in the office.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think when that happened. It's important to have a buddy to confide in. Like, somebody else has to know. Otherwise it's just a sad, embarrassing state of affairs.

[Mackenzie]

Right. You have to, like, bring humor to it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

I will say, though, I was not on camera and I was not postured as t. Bob was for maximum viewing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

Of.

[Big T]

How did he not know?

[PFT Commenter]

And it's. It's two levels.

[Big T]

Yeah. The odds of having both.

[Mackenzie]

That was the other crazy thing.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What are the odds?

[Big T]

Pretty low, I guess if you're a guy who just wears stuff with holes in them. Fairly high.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Eventually the stars are going to align.

[Big T]

How do you not feel it?

[PFT Commenter]

That's another great.

[Mackenzie]

How do you not see the hole when you're putting your pants on? Unless it ripped.

[PFT Commenter]

If it's in the back, you might not always see.

[Big T]

I can understand not seeing the hole in the jeans.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

He knew there were holes in the underwear.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the underwear.

[Big T]

You know, and wore them anyway.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, that you've. And listen, I don't want to judge T Bob too much, because I like T Bob. But if I have underwear that I know has holes in it, and I'm not going to act like I've never worn holy underwear before, but it's usually not in a sensitive area. If the hole in my underwear is directly next to my butt, I'm going to throw that pair of underwear out. Yeah. Because you're putting on pants over those boxers and now you've got butt on. On pants contact because of that area.

[Mackenzie]

Wouldn't you chafe.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe not in the. In the area, maybe not in the crack, but that would be the one spot, one out of two spots on my. My underwear where if there was a hole, immediately, no questions asked, throw it away.

[Big T]

I've got to take.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big T]

He wanted to be caught.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I like that, too. Yeah.

[Big T]

Because he was like a serial killer.

[Brandon Walker]

He.

[Big T]

He was begging for someone to notice.

[PFT Commenter]

He knew that he had it. He had, like, the world's prettiest butthole. And it's a shame that no one's ever seen it. I mean, maybe there's some other cheating scandals that I. That I have here. If you'd like to talk about some of these. Big T. Did you. Did you know about the Virginia Tech Texas sugar bowl of 1995?

[Big T]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

So Ricky Williams was a freshman in this game. Texas was pretty decent squad. They had a Cornerback named Ron McKelvey, and he had played the whole season for him. On the day of the game, he didn't show up. He left the team hotel in the middle of the night because his name was not Ron McKelvey and he was not 23 years old. He was 30 years old and his name was Ron. What's Ron's real name? Oh, he goes by Joel. So his name is Joel Ron Weaver. And he had lied about his entire identity. Played the entire season for the Texas Longhorns, and then once they found out, he jetted in the middle of the night, didn't show up. No penalties were enacted against Texas for doing this, by the way.

[Big T]

Well, now if you're 30 years old, that's just called being a starter at Indiana.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. BYU's been doing this for years.

[Big T]

That's actually true.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The Bills, the Buffalo Bills used to do some interesting stuff just with their stadium. They use their stadium as the actual 12th man rip, by the way, to New Era Stadium. No more games being played there.

[Big T]

High mark.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, yeah, they changed.

[Big T]

Are we actually getting the trough?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're. We're looking very strongly into that. Love that gross Perhaps.

[Big T]

What do you mean?

[Mackenzie]

I think that's so gross to have a trough at your place of work. That is also like you just you.

[Big T]

You. You wouldn't get it. You couldn't get it.

[PFT Commenter]

What's. What's gross?

[Mackenzie]

The trough to them is like heated rivalry to us. Is it?

[Big T]

Okay, let's elaborate on that for me, because I. On the face, I disagree vehemently.

[Mackenzie]

No, no, no, that's not what I meant. We're sorry. We love the show so much, we can't stop thinking about it. Explain it to you guys.

[Big T]

You could have said it's something they enjoy.

[Mackenzie]

Yes, that's what I meant. That was just. Sorry. That's the only thing.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys think it's gross and maybe some guys think that heated rivalry is gross.

[Mackenzie]

Correct. That's what that was. My correlation. Got it. Not that. Not the other part of that show. May I ask mechanics question about the trough?

[Brandon Walker]

Sure.

[Mackenzie]

Actually, maybe two. So if you're two men standing at the trough, are you kind of just staring?

[PFT Commenter]

You don't look.

[Mackenzie]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I suppose if you wanted to look, you could get a. Get a look.

[Mackenzie]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

But depending how your body's angled, you might not see anything.

[Mackenzie]

It's just such an open forum.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. If you're sitting next to each other. Yeah. You might. Like out of your periphery, you might see something.

[Mackenzie]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

But if you're opposite sides of the trough, I feel like unless you make a real. Unless you crane your neck around it, you're fine. You'll be okay.

[Mackenzie]

Okay, then my other question. I've seen a picture of this trough. This trough is metal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. Maybe stainless steel. Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

Okay. What kind of reverberation are you hearing? I feel like in a bath in a bathroom in an office building like this. Your pee hitting the trough would echo throughout.

[PFT Commenter]

You think people could hear it outside the bathroom?

[Mackenzie]

I'm asking you the question. How long or how loud does it get?

[PFT Commenter]

I guess. You ever. You ever been in a house that has a tin roof when it rains outside? Yeah, it's kind of like that.

[Mackenzie]

That's really loud.

[PFT Commenter]

But I mean, it's not through the whole office. It's just.

[Mackenzie]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

You can hear guys pee when you go into the bathroom anyways, even if they're hitting ceramic with it.

[Mackenzie]

I'm just. I'm just. And that's what I'm saying. I feel like it would be even such a louder. And in a trough in a stadium, the. The. The crowd drowns out the noise of the p. I'm assuming.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, it would Be a slightly louder P, but I don't think it would. You wouldn't hear it outside the doors of the bathroom.

[Mackenzie]

Okay. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a safe space. Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

You know what?

[Brandon Walker]

If.

[Mackenzie]

If Mackenzie and I can have heated rivalry and you guys can have the trough.

[PFT Commenter]

Agreed.

[Mackenzie]

We can all live happily ever after.

[Big T]

I want to know what happened to the Neyland Stadium troughs because they got rid of them like a year ago and I haven't heard of their whereabouts.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, this is a slippery slope that we're on, which is every cool stadium that closes down, we're going to have to buy trough.

[Big T]

I mean, we have way dumber shit in here than that. Yeah, those are have a utility.

[PFT Commenter]

They do.

[Big T]

By the way, T. Bob texted me back and his idea to cheat was to leverage your state government to threaten big companies tax credits to unlock nil funds, which may or may not have already happened.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good idea. We'll look into that Big or T. Bob. So the Bills used to cheat by using their stadium against their opponents. They had a stadium manager. So their special special teams coach was a guy named John Stephen Moore. And in the early 1980s, he used to use the doors of the stadium to control the wind. He would say, the wind can blow hard off Lake Erie. It blows easterly. It swoops over the left rim of Buffalo's Ralph Wilson Stadium, down to the field, back up over the luxury suites on the right, can swirl. It can have a modest impact on the outcome of a football game. You can't control the wind, but you can use it to your advantage. Making an opportunity. I was the special teams coach for the Bills in the early 1980s. In our pregame warmup, as we prepared to pay play the New England Patriots, the wind was blowing hard. I figured we could create a wind tunnel if we opened the east side tunnel door of the stadium. When New England was kicking against the wind, I worked with our equipment managers and told them, on my signal, open the doors. Thinking back on it, I do feel a little bad for the New England punter. On his first punt against the wind, the ball came off his foot nicely, but then the wind put it right back at him. In a game with dozens of consequential plays, sometimes it's just one that can make a big difference. I use the win to our advantage. We won the game, and that's why I only feel a little bad. So, yeah, if you have a stadium, I think you could probably still do that at some stadiums. Open up certain giant doors when it's Time for a big kick. Big T. Did you know about Herschel Walker back when he played on the University of Georgia football team?

[Big T]

I'm familiar with his work. I don't know what he did that you're about to say.

[PFT Commenter]

So in order to keep Herschel happy, they gave his sister a track and field scholarship to the University of Georgia.

[Big T]

Oh, that stuff happens all the time.

[Voicemail Callers]

Time.

[PFT Commenter]

But they didn't have a track and field program there.

[Big T]

That's fine. That was the. The Lori Laughlin thing. Yeah, I mean, I guess they. They had the teams, but they were just giving out fake scholarships.

[PFT Commenter]

So she's the first woman to ever get a scholarship in women's track at the University of Georgia. She got in 1979. It was a year before they had a women's track program. Then she would go on to become an All American at. In track. So she was talented at track and field. But they just. They established the program one year early so that they could give her a free ride to the school. University of Georgia's football team got into it with the University of Alabama back in 1963. This is an interesting one. So there was a guy named George Burnett. He was an insurance salesman. He lived in Atlanta, and he had a buddy at a PR firm. And one time he called into the PR firm and it crossed lines. So that's when. Do you know what, like, crossing lines is when it comes to phones?

[Big T]

So this is a thing that used to happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Where it would appear as if it was coming from somewhere else, but it was. That was not true.

[PFT Commenter]

It would. You would hear somebody else's conversation.

[Big T]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

On the phone. Because the lines were crossed. So you could just sit there and eavesdrop.

[Big T]

Really?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it. I. I never heard it. I don't think that it was a big thing when I was. When I was ever alive. But.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

60S, 70s, when you'd have, like, you know, you get on the phone, be like, susan, get me this. And she'd have to, like, take something out and put something in. Sometimes the lines would get crossed. So this guy called into his. His PR firm where his buddy worked, and he heard two voices on the other end of the phone. One was a guy by the name of Wally Butts. Wally Butts was the former coach of the University of Georgia. He was the athletic director at uga. And the other voice was Bear Bryant. And they were talking to each other ahead of a game between Alabama and the University of Georgia. And this guy, George Burnett, who was calling into the PR firm, he heard these Two talking. And he didn't say a word. He just eavesdropped for the next 15 minutes. And he heard Wally Butts giving Bear Bryant details about George's plays. They were going to run their strategies, the formations, and this game was going to take place in nine days. And the guy, Burnett, took notes on the entire conversation, the 15 minute conversation. He had six pages of notes. And the next week, Alabama beat Georgia 35 to nothing. The point spread had the game around a 17 to 14 in favor of Alabama matchup. But they blew him out 35 to nothing because Georgia gave Bear Bryant all their plays ahead of time.

[Big T]

I mean, that's fair enough.

[PFT Commenter]

And the very next day, Wally Butts resigned after the. After the scandal broke in the paper and then the University of Georgia, they interviewed Burnett and they asked him what he heard. And they said that Burnett might not be a credible witness because he was on probation for writing bad checks and he expected to face an accusation of slander from Wally Butts. So the guy spoke with his attorney and said, take your story to the Saturday Evening Post. And then there was an article called the Story of a College Football Fix that was in the Saturday Evening Post on March 23, 1963. And then three days later, Wally Butts sued the newspaper for 10 million bucks. And then in the trial, it came out that the Post did not pass the story for review amongst the editors. And if they had done so, they would have caught several minor errors in the story and would not have approved the sensationalistic tone in the introduction saying the corrupt were not disreputable gamblers. The corrupt were two men, Butts and Brian, employed to educate and to guide young men. How often do teachers sell out their pupils? We don't know yet. For now, we can only be appalled. The newspaper one or. Sorry, no. The newspaper lost in court. The phone call took place. There was backup to support the allegations. And during the game, Alabama players had taunted the Georgia team by calling out the code names of Georgia's plays before they were run. So we don't know why they lost the case, because it seemed that everything written about this case was 100% accurate. It was just some of the language went over the line.

[Big T]

Yeah, I mean, I'm assuming that case took place in the state of Georgia.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big T]

Probably had something to do with it.

[PFT Commenter]

That might have had one or two things to do with it.

[Big T]

Yes. My favorite thing about Wally Butts. Do you know the name of Georgia's football building?

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big T]

So it's named for Wally Butts and Harry Mere, who I guess was another coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big T]

Do you know what the building name is?

[PFT Commenter]

It's not Harry Butts.

[Big T]

No, it's the. The Butts Mirror Building. The But Smear.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that's funny.

[Big T]

Yeah, it's the But Smear Building.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought you're gonna say Harry Butts.

[Big T]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

LSU is one of those, I think, named after their center.

[Big T]

Good one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, there have been a couple other allegations of cheating over the years. Obviously, you got Spygate, which the league destroyed the tapes. You've got Deflategate, which has gone through so many cycles of the argument and different studies coming out about ideal gas law that they've successfully muddied the waters to distract from the fact that Tom Brady definitely had somebody that took footballs into a bathroom and took the air out. But at the end of the day, we're talking about.

[Big T]

Where do you. Where do you sit on that?

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, Tom Brady definitely. He did that.

[Big T]

Interesting.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know that it made that much of a difference, but I just.

[Big T]

Didn'T know if you were allowed to say that.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I think there's enough. The preponderance of the evidence is that it happened.

[Big T]

Some people would disagree with you.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, some.

[Big T]

They would say that you don't know Ideal Gas Law.

[PFT Commenter]

Some people are heavily invested in one certain side of it. Now, I don't know how effective it was that. I'm not saying that it made a huge difference.

[Big T]

That's another Barry Bonds thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Would they have won otherwise? Probably. They beat the. Out of them.

[Brandon Walker]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And we don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

And I don't think that the. The person that was working on the footballs necessarily did a great job every single time. And so the. The difference is probably minimal. But, I mean, he was taking the footballs into the bathroom for minutes at a time right before kickoff, and then returning the footballs back to the officials.

[Big T]

The deflator.

[PFT Commenter]

The deflator. And then Tom Brady destroyed his cell phone, which I. I kind of understand that. It's like you don't want Roger Goodell to have access to every text message or phone call you've ever made. I get that. But, yeah, they. They were up to something. Probably still would have won all those games anyways. That's my final stance on it. Okay, Big T, what else we got in the news that you'd want to talk about? Charlie Kirk. Christian Kirk.

[Big T]

Yeah. You saw that?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, I saw that.

[Big T]

Well, not just Stephen A. Smith saying it. Did you see the Texans tweet? Because some people think It's a psyop.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, a psyop. In what way?

[Big T]

So when he scored, the Texans tweeted, c Kirk, add six to the board. And he's the only player that they didn't tweet his full name. They just said, see Kirk? And in the picture, he's grabbing his shoulder pad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

In a place where. Very close to where Charlie Kirk got shot. So people think. I don't even know what the theory is. They just think something's going on there.

[PFT Commenter]

Do they think the Texans were, like, making fun?

[Big T]

No, I think it's actually the opposite, but I'm. I'm not. This guy said more, quote, coincidences. Christian Kirk is holding the same spot on his neck that Charlie Kirk was shot. Texan Steelers artificially ended 30 to 6. Like the gun they told us shot Charlie. 36. 144,144 yards for C. Kirk. The distance we were told the shooting was from.

[PFT Commenter]

Hashtag ritual. Yeah, my favorite part of that tweet is that they say Christian Kirk is holding the same spot on his neck that Charlie Kirk was quote, shot.

[Big T]

I didn't even pick up on that.

[PFT Commenter]

End quote. Yeah, I don't know what the theory behind that is.

[Big T]

This guy think Charlie's still with us?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. That's a guy that's deep into it.

[Big T]

Someone responded. Reality mocks us with coincidence.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I like that. I'm going to steal that one. I'm definitely going to steal that one.

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[Voicemail Callers]

Good morning, y'.

[Brandon Walker]

All.

[Voicemail Callers]

This is Connor from New Hampshire. You guys want to voicemail us about how people would cheat in college football? I really, I used to have, like, no drones, but I really think, like, technology is getting so advanced. Like, you can get a drone with a camera with a times 50 magnification. You can get a little small drone. Coach puts his. His clipboard down. You swoop the drone in, take a picture of the clipboard or something like that. I. I think technology, and I know it sounds like kind of crazy for college football, but, like, stealth spying technology, like drones and whatnot, could really be the one that would work. But yeah, Let me know what you guys think. Have a good one.

[PFT Commenter]

So is he suggesting that the drones have some sort of, like, electronic sensor that can pick up on electronic communications?

[Big T]

I guess so.

[PFT Commenter]

Saying that they're taking pictures from above of what the coaches have on their clipboards or iPads.

[Big T]

I don't know that that's going to do a ton for you. Yeah, because those sheets are.

[PFT Commenter]

You'd have to have super high def cameras that then send.

[Big T]

I mean, the play sheets are on TV all the time.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. I think in order to get the information that would be most useful, you would need to intercept the words that they say. Right.

[Big T]

And you would need to know what.

[PFT Commenter]

They mean and then have them decoded somehow. I'm sure that Connor Stallions has just a binder of ways to cheat that he hasn't used yet.

[Big T]

Absolutely. I considered reaching out to him. He's a. I think he might be a big T believer. He's a follower.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, love that.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Why don't you reach out?

[Big T]

I didn't want to be like, hey, do you want to come talk about how to cheat?

[PFT Commenter]

Just DM him real quick and be like, hey, do you have any other ideas for how teams could be cheating?

[Big T]

Why don't you do it? If he follows me, he follows you.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, you just said he might be a big T believer.

[Big T]

He might.

[PFT Commenter]

Or maybe he thinks your name.

[Big T]

I think he actually likes the Brandon and me videos.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's do the next voicemail.

[Voicemail Callers]

Oco, Macronos and crew, this is Jameson calling from the Cherokee reservation in Oklahoma. Boomer sooner. So my manifesto for cheating, to build an almost, you know, perfect type of football team would be to actually go the military service academy route. So think of this current administration and the Department of Defense. I mean, sorry, Department of War, they might be amenable to maybe throwing a couple Billy our way from the defense budget to go into the nil. And as a last resort, if players didn't actually want to sign this outright, we could just draft them. Who cares? We're the Department of Defense. War, whatever. And then our other route is, if that didn't work and we wanted to go a little spicier with it, could just go the Vladimir Putin way. Invite all the wealthiest people to a room, lock them in there until they give us enough money till we have our football program. So anyway, y' all stay handsome, stay beautiful, and Texas Peace.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that idea. Threaten them with drafting them if they don't go to Navy.

[Big T]

Interesting.

[PFT Commenter]

That could work. Yeah, I like that. Good idea.

[Mackenzie]

Pete Hegseth is the oc.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean, just. You get a letter in the mail saying, hey, you don't sign with Navy and we're shipping your ass immediately post haste to Syria.

[Big T]

He's a vfl. We could actually do that.

[PFT Commenter]

I forgot that. I forgot that he was a vfl.

[Big T]

And by vfl, I think he just lives in Nashville. And I think his kids like UT because they live in Tennessee.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So he's not actually an alumni?

[Big T]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big T]

He went to Yale or Princeton or something.

[PFT Commenter]

Sounds about right.

[Voicemail Callers]

Hey, guys, this is Patrick from Auburn, Alabama. I was calling in about how I would cheat if I was a college football head coach. And one of my ideas that I had is if I was a college football head coach, with this portal being as crazy as it is, one thing I would do is I would recruit at least two guys from each side of the ball. Again, that played for every team that's on my schedule. So I'm here in Auburn. So when Auburn plays Baylor in the opening game in Mercedes Benz, I would recruit two guys from Baylor that played on both the offensive side and the defensive side. Funny enough, Auburn actually already got one of their running backs, and so those guys have played in that system. They have also been around the program so they can give some ins and outs of what goes on and just constantly keep rotating those teams. So Auburn, after that, they play Southern Miss. And so I would have two guys from Southern Miss. They'd be able to do some scouting reports. Tell us about what. Well, that actually wouldn't work too well because they just got a new head coach. But anyways, you guys understand what. What I'm trying to say. Just constantly rotate some guys that come in and out of the program, but do it schedule based. So I guess recruit based on my schedule. Stay handsome. Stay beautiful. Ward Am Eagle.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good idea, too.

[Big T]

This actually plays into a theory I have.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big T]

And it's not so much a theory. I think it's just flatly true. There's so much movement in college football now that offenses are down a little bit compared to several years ago. And I think that's because you can't run as unique of a system as you want to because you have so many players coming in and out every year. That's. That's why all the offenses in the NFL are more or less the same, because there's so much player movement. You can't run some crazy system that like nobody else has seen before because you just have too much freedom of movement to do it. And I think college football is becoming that way where teams who would otherwise have run these really complex, unique systems are now having to trim that down a bit because half your team is new every season.

[PFT Commenter]

That's fascinating. But I do think that there, there would be some merit to what this guy's saying where you recruit. If it's a team that has a returning coach, returning offensive coordinator, getting at least a little bit of intel, you could probably get something from it, right? Yeah, maybe they've got some contacts still at their old school that don't play, that aren't happy with their coach.

[Big T]

Yeah, I'm not saying this would hurt at all.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's a good idea.

[Voicemail Callers]

Hey, this is Derek from Atlanta. Wife and I listen to y' all every week. So very excited to be calling in for the first time. I was giving some thought into the most creative way to change cheat in college football. I think I figured it out. We're going to go for the good old fashioned honey pot. So you're going to need a female friend, moderately attractive because you don't want them to be too hot so that they get suspicious. But we're going to target those guys on the sideline who wear the off color team polos that call in the signals. So you're going to have your friend meet up with one of those guys around, I don't know, February, start relationship and then slowly figure out the password to his laptop. Typically people pick one password when they're like 10 and stick with that their whole lives. Make a few modifications. So once she gets the password, you know, he goes out, leaves her alone. Log in, get the team, get all the team info on like the team portal or huddle, whatever college teams use, and boom. Every single play, call everything, give that back to your team. And that is the best way to cheat. Thank you guys very much. And also, I know Mad Dog and Mackenzie are itching to talk about heated rivalry, so I'll throw them the opportunity now. Stay handsome, stay gorgeous.

[Big T]

Bye.

[PFT Commenter]

I like where this guy's head's at. I think you can go the Connor stallions route with this and you can, if you, if you do some sort of honeypot operation, you can figure out if it's their week to be the actual signal guy and not the. The decoy. Yeah, like you're getting them ready for the game. Like, honey, is it your turn to be the actual guy today?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a big day for you. Let me. Let me cook you an extra special breakfast. You're going to need that energy. And then you let the opponent know, hey, yeah, it's my guy's day. And then they know to. To zero in on what your hand signals are. Yeah. Could be any other heated rivalry takes.

[Mackenzie]

You guys don't want to hear the conversations Mackenzie and I are having.

[Big T]

She's correct.

[Mackenzie]

They're extremely.

[Big T]

Horrifying.

[Mackenzie]

No. Oh, my God. We are at a. We are at a. An ill. Ill level. Yeah. It's a mental illness. It's a mental illness. I'm staying up to watch late night television because they're on it. I don't know if I've ever done that, ever.

[Big T]

Were these guys known at all before this?

[Mackenzie]

No. This is like both of their first acting gigs, which also makes it so sweet.

[PFT Commenter]

So, guys, for. For a long time, it's. It's been no secret that we occasionally enjoy watching two women smooch. Enjoy each other's company hunting wives. Didn't think that it went the other way.

[Mackenzie]

I didn't either.

[Big T]

It's.

[Mackenzie]

It was a revelation to both of us how, how much we enjoyed watching that.

[PFT Commenter]

Do we have any more voicemails?

[Mackenzie]

One.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay.

[Voicemail Callers]

What's up, Macrodosing? This is Cade from Phoenix, home of America Fest, the one and only America Best area. Unfortunately likes to see you aren't able to pop out, but maybe next year. If I remember hearing correctly, I remember you guys talking about ways to cheat in college football and our ideas for that. I don't know how well this would work, but I think my idea would be at this day and age, every team has their own production crew for whether it's recruiting or just like making hype videos, all that stuff. And I feel like it's become more and more prevalent year after year because how much it means for recruiting and looking good on socials. So I think what I would do to cheat would be obviously have a production crew, but then also have a fake group of people or real people, but fake group. An association with that production crew that has cameras, all the audio equipment and whatnot. But they're not actually cameras and it's not actually audio equipment. It just looks that way. And then the actual functions of those cameras and equipment would be to intercept the radio waves of the communication between the OC or head coach to the quarterback. It would take a couple years, I think, to really figure it out and, you know, get game plans around certain play calls and whatnot. But I Think that could work out pretty well. I don't know how the technology would work, but really above my pay grade. So yeah, that'd be my way to cheat and I think it could be pretty solid one. Everybody stay beautiful. Big T. Especially you. Stay beautiful.

[Big T]

Appreciate you, brother.

[PFT Commenter]

I think tapping the headsets is, it's an interesting one because you'd have to get, you'd have to be able to have the technology to get the communication, but then you'd have to be able to decipher it and then adjust on the fly. So there's a gap there where it's like you could hear the words that they used. But I don't think that coaches would immediately be able to identify the play unless they ran a very, very similar system.

[Big T]

I think in college most of the verbiage isn't like if you're a football coach you can figure it out. But I, the, the best thing to do is what some people seem to think Indiana has done, which is you hack into wherever they've got practice film and stuff and then you can just recognize, hey, this formation. 80% of the time it's this play.

[PFT Commenter]

When you, if you, if you ran like if you were an administrator for the software system, you would be able to identify that somebody was hacking into like a different school's thing, right?

[Big T]

I would assume, but I don't like.

[PFT Commenter]

If there was a breach. But I guess then if you have, if you have massive data breaches, you probably wouldn't be super inclined to tell everybody that because then you would not be able to do business.

[Big T]

What if Indiana did my idea and they paid a bunch of walk ons to give them their login?

[PFT Commenter]

Ooh, yeah, that's. Now that's a realistic idea. I think you just need one guy from each school. Right. I wonder if every team keeps that information in silos where if you're like a walk on, you play on special teams occasionally. If you would have full access to offense, defense.

[Big T]

The thing that makes me just pause a little bit is Old Dominion played them close, 27 to 14.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And their first play was a 75 yard touchdown. And I. The implication is that Old Dominion doesn't use that technology because they don't have enough money for it.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean they still have a budget. It's not like ODU doesn't have a.

[Big T]

Football team for sure. But they're not using the high level stuff that Big Ten teams are.

[PFT Commenter]

How much do you think it would cost to get a subscription to that?

[Big T]

I don't know what all is involved in it, but I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's see. Indiana.

[Big T]

It is weird that they beat Oregon and Alabama by 100 points and Old Dominion was within two touchdowns.

[PFT Commenter]

That is weird.

[Big T]

Granted, it was. I think it was their first game. So, like, obviously very different from August to January, but.

[PFT Commenter]

So on the homepage, they've got Alabama here. I guess Alabama's a client, too.

[Big T]

Oh, you're on the company's website.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but I'm sure that. I'm sure a lot of people are checking this out. They probably scrubbed it.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just on the homepage here, it says. Oh, they've got a lot of soccer teams that use it. So it looks like Argentina. The national team uses it. England, Arsenal, Brazil. The Ravens. Duke. I assume that's Duke. Basketball. Kansas City Chiefs use it. The story of Catapult.

[Big T]

I saw the name of another company in one of these tweets, too. I wonder if I have it bookmarked.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's an Australian company. Do we have any ties between Indiana and Australia?

[Big T]

Do they have an Australian punter?

[PFT Commenter]

They might.

[Big T]

They. They never punt, so I don't know who their punter is.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a good point. Yeah. I'm trying to see if they have, like, leadership team or anything like that. I don't see anything about the leadership team. All right, well, these are good suggestions. I. I think that we've. We've covered a lot of them. Probably left out a few. If you feel like there's an idea that you have that we haven't talked about, let us know at the voicemail line. What's that voicemail line again?

[Mackenzie]

347-56-00401 But I do think that Crystal.

[PFT Commenter]

Ball is uniquely situated to. To be able to handle security. He's the one guy that said big T. What's your prediction?

[Big T]

I bet on Indiana minus seven and a half. I just. If they're going to burn me again, at least this time it'll be because they lose.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I'm just. I'm really hoping that Miami gets out to a lead so that I can hedge.

[Big T]

Yeah, I do. I'm fascinated that the games in Miami's home stadium that they never fill up for their own home games. I'm fascinated if Indiana wins, there's an argument they're the greatest college football team ever. It's the best story in the history of college football, I think.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And it's maybe the most improbable story in the history of sports.

[PFT Commenter]

It's right up there. It's up there. With Leicester City.

[Big T]

Yeah, but Leicester City. And I guess not to say that Indiana doesn't. They have the Heisman Trophy winner, but like Lester City had, looking back, a really good amount of talent on that team. I don't know, man. It'd be insane.

[PFT Commenter]

It would be. If they blow Miami out, you have to have the conversation about lsu.

[Big T]

I would pick LSU to win the game, but Indiana would be the first team to ever win 16 games other than like I think Yale in the 1800s or something.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big T]

I. I looked up their schedule that year and they were playing Division 3 schools and YMCAs. And I think I'll go out on limb and say Indiana is the first team to win 16 games.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that if Indiana does it, you could pick your number against that LSU team. And I would take LSU.

[Big T]

Really?

[Jan Macrodosing]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I think from 16 and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably from a talent standpoint, I mean, Indiana is very talented too, but that LSU team was just stacked with pros.

[Big T]

So if they were to play right now, what do you think the score would be?

[PFT Commenter]

I think LSU would win by probably 20.

[Big T]

Really?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That offense was.

[Big T]

I think you're out of your mind.

[PFT Commenter]

The offense was scary.

[Big T]

It was.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, they beat. What was the score in that game against Oklahoma?

[Big T]

Like 63 to 20 or something?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it was. It was more lopsided than the Indiana Oregon game somehow.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

63 to 28.

[Big T]

Yeah. Same building.

[PFT Commenter]

It was an ass kicking beyond all ass kickings. All right, well, that is macrodosing for today. Hope you guys enjoyed it. I apologize for being late.

[Big T]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sorry. It's. It's a bad feeling, though, when you wake up and you realize, oh, I'm already supposed to be at work.

[Big T]

You have me paranoid about my alarm not going off for wub tomorrow.

[PFT Commenter]

Now that was the first thing I did when I woke up after I re. After I said, oh, I then checked my alarm to make sure that tomorrow would work.

[Big T]

So did you. Had you just not set it?

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think what happened was I said it. I did not save it. I did not turn it on.

[Big T]

Okay, so it wasn't set.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big T]

Okay, that makes me feel better.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, well, we will see you guys next week. Love you guys.

[Big T]

Goodbye.