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So who's the mole? Big T? Chuck responds, yeah, I think so. And then you. You were removed from the conversation. I then texted Chuck and Dante the screenshot of Dave's tweet. I said just a heads up for you morons. This is a screenshot from a group with three people in it. One Whatever. I was in had five. Have a great day though. I then followed up. It's literally whoever the person other than Dante and Nikki smokes is maybe the easiest thing ever to figure out. And Dante responded, thank you, Connor. I never doubted you. And then put me back in the other group chat. He said, big T's in, Chuck is out. My bad.
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Welcome back to Nano Dosing. It is Tuesday. I hope everybody's doing all right. It's September 16th. Today's episode's brought to you by Game time. College football season's back. Great games this past weekend. And because college football season's back, that means that tailgates are back, crowds are back, the excitement of being in the stands before kickoff, that's all back. If you've ever found yourself at a tailgate and you want to grab tickets at the last minute, that's where game time comes in. The GameTime app gives the advantage back to the fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in just a few taps. It's super easy to use. The game time app means you can trust that you'll get 100 authentic tickets on time and at the best price. They got a game time guarantee and their fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. Big weekend college football coming up again this weekend. People are talking about JMU Liberty. That's going to be a big game. But also we got Oklahoma, Auburn. What are those tickets looking like?
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No, I mean it's always good time seeing the fellas and the ladies.
A
You didn't have too much of a good time with Nick on Friday, did you?
B
That's my favorite. So we had. We had a blast, man.
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Great. I'm so happy for you.
B
Thanks, man.
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That's how much I care about you, even if it's with somebody else. I just want to see you happy.
B
No, that's real love right there. If you love it, let it go. If it comes back and it's meant.
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To be and look at us. We're back.
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We are back.
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Yeah. He must not have been that good.
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Jesus, man.
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All right. Yeah, we're back. It is Tuesday. We got a lot to talk about over the weekend. A lot. First of all, I just want to say that, Big T, I heard a nasty rumor.
C
What's that?
A
This morning, I heard that you got kicked out of the Critical Thinking group chat. So is that true?
C
I. I fixed it. I don't. I haven't told them this. I don't want to be in this group chat. I was added to a group chat over the weekend called Critical Thinking Group by Dante.
A
Who else is in this group chat?
C
So in this one, it's. Now, this is such a collection of people. Dante, Nikki, Smokes, White Sox, Dave and me. I want it noted. I have not sent a single message. You can verify?
B
Yeah.
C
Not sent a single message.
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I see no blue.
C
Um. So Dante adds me to this thing. He's like, basically, I'm. I'm questioning all narratives. I. I want to get my top guys on this kind of thing and need to make sure we have no moles. Six hours later, Dave Portnoy tweets a screenshot of a thing that says Critical Thinking group chat with the exact same text. And Dave is like, rule number one, find the mole or whatever.
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Yep.
C
The. The screenshot Dave tweeted. I'll pull it up right here. Had only two people other than the person who took the screenshot in it. The one I was in had, like, four others. So Dante started multiple of these, and it should have been very easy to figure out who it was, given that you can tell by the screenshot of that other one, whoever the third person is that isn't listed at the top.
A
Why did Dante start multiple Critical Thinking group chats?
C
I don't know, but.
B
So you're not a critical thinker.
C
So in the one that I'm in, he. That's a great point. He. Saturday at 6:08. Probably right about the time the Tennessee game was ending. Perfect. So who's the mole? Big T. Chuck responds, yeah, I think so. And then you. You were removed from the conversation. I then texted Chuck and Dante the screenshot of Dave's tweet. I said, just a heads up for you morons. This is a screenshot from a Group with three people in. Whatever I was in had five. Have a great day, though. I then followed up. It's literally whoever the person other than Dante and Nikki smokes is maybe the easiest thing ever to figure out. And Dante responded. Thank you, Connor. I never doubted you. And then put me back in the other group chat. He said, big T's in, Chuck is out. My bad. I don't really. I don't. Yeah, I'm just gonna just leave it on. Do not disturb or whatever. But it was not me.
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So what kind of topics are discussed in the critical thinking group chat?
C
It's mostly been questioning the narrative around Charlie Kirk's assassination.
A
That's. That's a group chat that I. I don't think I would want to be in.
C
Yeah, I'd say there's a lot of add.
B
Hey, yo, add me, bro.
C
You want in it?
B
Add me in that.
C
I'll add you and then leave. I. I'll just drop the. The note.
B
Oh, no, no, no. I don't want to be there if you're not in there. I don't even know them cats.
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You should add Jerry o'.
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Connell.
C
I don't know that I have his number.
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Nobody takes over a group chat like Jerry.
C
I believe that.
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No one just dominates it from the second he gets in.
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Does he not have an iPhone, though?
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He does not have an iPhone, which makes it even worse.
C
Oh, yeah.
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It's like it just turns into a wall of green. When you add Jerry into something, it doesn't matter how many people are in it. Jerry. Jerry has the freshest memes. He's got the hottest posts on Instagram that he sends over, and then they.
C
Come in in an eight bit.
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Then they. Yeah, then it's green bubbles. You can't emphasize anything.
B
It's.
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It's a mess. When you put Jerry and all the like, emphasize. This turns into the text.
C
Right. Saying what the person is emphasized.
A
Yeah. It's a disaster introducing Jerry to those. But I'm. I'm glad that you're back in.
C
Yeah, I. I just. I don't care enough about that group chat to send it to Dave.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, you know.
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Yeah.
C
I honestly haven't even read the text. I just see them come in.
B
Or that with it. Where are they at with their investigation?
C
I don't know, man. I just see a lot of. Oh, boy, here we go. None of this makes any sense.
B
It's other staples in the critical thinking world.
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I'm not going to tell people what to do, but this is. This is how I typically operate in, in a time like this because we were recording macro dosing and right as I said, love you guys. On Wednesday afternoon you guys saw the news about Charlie Kirk and then we just said, okay, I, I was sitting here and Big T and Aryan pulled the video up. I didn't watch it, but I, I saw their reaction to it and that made me decide I never want to see that video ever. So I've tried to avoid that as best I can. But typically what I like to do in those situations is just like log off for a while because you're going to see all the worst posts you're gonna get and angry at society, you're going to get confused. Then you're going to get confused about why you were confused and you're not going to make yourself any better in the moments and days of something tragic like that happening. And if it was, I always go back to 9 11. If Twitter was around during 9 11, it would have been the worst place in the world. It would have been the last place that you want to go for your own mental health, for any sort of like breaking news. You're going to find a lot of out there. And yeah, that, that's usually how I operate in situations like that. It was, it was a terrible, terrible week and it was an awful thing that happened to him. And it made me sad and it made me a little bit scared about the direction that our country's going and it made me kind of hate the Internet a little bit. And I don't know what we do, but the Internet is a bad place. It's gotten worse and I don't think it's going to get better. Maybe that's being pessimistic. Maybe that's, that's too far in the negativity column. But I don't know. I'm more pessimistic about the future of online discourse and how that's going to pollute our actual lived in, non Internet society in the near future and the far future. So that might be a bummer, might be tough to. I know it's tough for me to think about. I'm sure a lot of people have thought the same way, but I don't know what we do.
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Do you think this is any different than like any other politicized death in the past since the Internet has been around?
C
Yeah, very.
A
I do.
B
What?
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Why? So I think that it's about like the moment that our society is in right now. Where in America, if you go online and you read people's comments about things. You will start to think that half of the country hates the other half of the country, and both sides want each other to be arrested, banned from society, or killed. And that's not the case in the real world. It's not the case. How many times have you walked down the street or had a conversation with somebody and then you're like, wow, that guy wants to kill me because of my. My politics? It never happens.
B
No, I feel you on that. But. But my question was, what was different about this one than other, like, politicized deaths in the past?
C
What do you mean when you say politicized deaths?
B
Deaths that have been taken from either political. Taken by political pundits and used as either fodder for that camp or the start of a cause or anything.
C
I mean, that happens all the time. I don't think we've had in, what, 50, 60 years anyone killed who is just a. A speaker, a pundit.
B
Oh, so, okay. But I don't know. I'm not. I'm not talking about the death. I'm talking about the reaction to, like, the direction.
C
The reaction is inherently different because the person who was killed is different.
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I think it.
B
Charlie, what is the. I'm asking what the difference is. What is the difference?
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I think Charlie Kirk was, I don't want to say a creation of the Internet, but his profile rose to prominence because of the Internet. He was like a uniquely online presence that established him as a speaker and as a commentator. And baked into that, you've got all the other old reactions to everything Charlie has said online that were also posted online. So the discourse around Charlie Kirk has been happening exclusively on social media since he rose to prominence, and then his death being posted on social media and the reactions all coming from the same people that had already weighed in on Charlie Kirk, and his prominence on social media made it, like, a different type of reaction than we've ever had in this country, I think.
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I don't. I don't. I don't see it like that. I don't know. I mean, you see people from the right, like, they look at him like a martyr, and you see people from the left, they look at him like, you know, there's some people who are, like, celebrating it, and there's some people who, like, you know, sucks that he died, but, like, I'm not going to, like, mourn with you, which, I mean, that's. That's typical in these kinds of situations, I think, on. On either side. So I. I'm. I don't see much difference in his death than deaths that have been politicized. I think it's just. It just happened most recent. Like, I sort of. I'm asking what the difference was, and I can't really see it.
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I. I just think the reaction, since it is his story, is like a uniquely online story. I think that the reactions online have been magnified. I'm not saying that, like the general response to public figures, death, there's always going to be some people that mourn. There's going to be some people that are indifferent. There's going to be some people that. That celebrate. And with Kirk, though, you had all this coming together online with, like, a very high level of emotion and anger and sadness and joy in some cases. And I think that Kirk being that online guy, that is a uniquely online story that we have not seen. Like, I. I don't think we've had. We've had political deaths and political assassinations, but I don't know that we've had something like this when it comes to a pundit that so many people looked at and identified with or hated. And so the reaction to all that, with all the emotions that are coming out online, it's been. I just think it's been like, one of the worst, what, five days that I can remember.
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That's what. I'm confused. We had literally a. So, like, when George Floyd died, that set off like, a movement of protest across the country that was like, huge. Like, I'm not saying I'm not in. In no way levying them against each other character or anything like that. I'm just saying the death of that was politicized. Like, we've seen it be memed. We've seen it be used as, like, political fodder on either side. That's why, like, I understand people are hurting. I understand people are indifferent. I get all that. But it's because your tone was interesting to me. Your tone was like, this is different. And I'm just curious as to how, like, how it looks the same to me. It's like somebody died. People love him, people. People hate him. That's.
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I think I see what you're saying in that. Just the reaction is kind of the same. I don't know how much different it could be other than there are social media posts, there are people talking about it, like, in terms of the tangible, like, what it is. But George Floyd was killed by a cop. That's like, it's a very different thing than the conservative, like, pundit who goes around speaking at schools, getting shot in front of thousands of people because someone didn't like what he believed. It's. It's an inherently different thing.
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I'm 100% on board with you. I'm not saying the deaths are the same. I'm saying. I'm saying the reaction. I'm clearly speaking from the reaction, too. And I think how. I'm just curious as PFT's notion of this is different. Are you saying the act of is different? Are you saying, like, this death marks a new era in American discourse or like. I'm just curious. I'm not berating. I'm just genuinely curious what you're saying.
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I think it's the fact that everybody already had an opinion on Charlie Kirk, and it was usually strongly one way or the other prior to this happening. So there was. There were already, like, baked in arguments about the guy prior to his death. And then when it happened so publicly, then all that culminated in people, like, just boiling over the top online for the last six days. With Floyd.
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Yeah.
A
In my opinion, when. When George Floyd was killed, that was about, like, a moment that happened that everybody saw and it was like a, holy shit, look at this. I can't believe that this is happening in our country or in some cases, people saying, I told you, this has been happening in our country with. With Charlie Kirk. It was a moment that was captured and everybody, like, had their own thing that they were ready to just jump into right off the bat. And it created, like, an instantaneous online battle, which was. Which was bad. And a lot of people posted about him.
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What. But that's what I'm saying. So did every other. That's why, like, I'm not trying to minimize death. I think it's extremely sad. Like, I don't want to seem insensitive in that aspect. It's. I did not personally mourn him. I'm indifferent about it, but I think it's extremely sad that. That he died like that. I think it's sad that his kids have to grow without a father. That's just horrible dog. But, like, I. This, that. This. This is, like, not new. Like, as far as, like, us infighting, like, right, left. It is just not. It's not going. I've been pessimistic on record for a long time, but it's not going to.
C
Change from the way you're saying it. Is there anything that could be different then? Like, I think you're like, what I'm saying.
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Nah.
C
Yeah, I think that's what you're like. I don't think you would say there's any way that it could be different, which I wouldn't agree with, but I see what you're saying, I guess.
B
Yeah. Because I'm probably online a little more than I should be during these days, but I see that sentiment from pft, and I was just carrying, I was picking at the mindset of it. Not like, I'm not picking at you, obviously, brother, but I was just curious as the mindset, like, compared to hear people saying that this is different. And I, I haven't seen a real explanation of, like, how, how's this different?
A
Is this okay? It might not be different, but it might be just taken to an extreme, like, worse than it's been.
B
What would, what would be the extreme?
A
I'm saying that the discourse around it has been, it's been bigger and it's been angrier than I've ever seen it, personally.
B
I hear that.
A
And so I just, I don't think, I, I think that we're in a bad place right now. And I think that the way that the Internet has kind of trained us to hate each other is a very unhealthy thing. And I think that the more siloed our information becomes, where you find yourself exclusively, getting your news from one channel or another, you develop little tiny groupthink mindhive communities that end up just going down into a deep, dark, almost irony poisoned hole. And then you lose the ability to connect with anybody else that might think differently than you. And I think it's worse than it's ever been.
B
I, I mean, I, I don't know. Like, you could say that this is a country from slavery. What do you mean? It's the worst.
A
I'm not saying that the country as a whole. I'm not, I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying that the country as a whole is not worse than it's ever been. I, I, we had a civil war where hundreds of thousands of people killed each other.
B
Right?
A
Yeah, that, that was much worse than people that are getting angry online at each other. But I think that where our heads are at in terms of public discourse and how we think about each other, the more we're online, the worse it gets.
B
Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with that, but I, I think, like, I always try to look at society like, from the macro. Right. Like, and like this was kind of inevitable, like, when you really think about it, because after. Right, right before the Internet, there's like this, you know, there's like a social contract A society has, right? There's decorum. There's, like, you, you treat people a certain way. But we live in pockets of, like, segregation. Like, we live in pockets of like, white folk live with white folk, black folk live with black folk. Majority. Right. And we still do, but online has opened up each other to each other's cultures, each other's inner thoughts, and had us interact in a way that hadn't been seen before in human history. And so I think this is the byproduct of that. This is the byproduct of cultures cross clashing. And it's at a boiling point now. That, to me was inevitable. And so I see the only remedy is, which I don't see happening, right? But the only remedy is for our leadership, right, for our elected leaders to take a step back and say, listen, let's not try to own the libs. Let's not try to own a concern. Let's, let's take the tone down, right? It's not going to happen because that's how you get votes. Right.
A
I actually thought that the governor of Utah, I don't know anything about his policies. I don't know anything about him at all beyond what I saw this weekend. He seems like a guy that's, that's got a good head on his shoulders. Like, he seems like a rational person and empathetic person and the kind of person that you would want to be your leader based on how he reacted and how he dealt with this crisis this week. Again, don't know anything about him. He might suck as a politician. He might be great. But I, I was actually, I was happy to see a little bit of humanity from somebody that had a very prominent voice. So that was, I didn't. That. But, but I know what you're saying. Like, you don't. Here's, and here's the problem with online discourse in general. I think you don't get attention for telling people to calm down. You get attention the way that the algorithms are set up and the way that, I mean, even Twitter being monetized to the point where they pay you for interactions. You reward the people that have the more outlandish takes or the more extreme takes, and then that person gets reinforced by the algorithm. And then they say, okay, this is a good channel, I'm going down. And soon enough there's going to be somebody that comes up and is more extreme than that person and captures their audience. And there's never anybody that captures an audience by having a more rational conversation, which I think is a Very big problem.
B
Yeah. Truth is. Truth is boring. You remember when McCain was taking questions from his town audience when he was running against Obama, and the lady stood up and she said, he's a Muslim. Well, there's, I mean, very problematic questions and answers. But, like, she was like, he's a Muslim. And he goes, no, no, no, no, no, he's not. I know him. And again, problematic answer, but the sentiment was there, right? He was like, no. He basically put water on the fire of her question and her rhetoric. And he was like, listen, we could disagree, but that's a good dude. You know what I mean? I feel like that shit is gone. That shit is gone. And that is a part of the social contract that we had before the Internet. It was like, which I believe you have to have in order to have a civil society. You have to be able to like me and Big T, basically about pretty much everything. But that's my guy, right? And I got people that in my life that be like, how the fuck do you. How are you friends with that dude? I'm like, Cause he good dude. I just. I feel like he's a little misinformed, and he probably feels like I'm a little misinformed. That's all right. But we could talk it out. That's cool. But that shit, that shit has to happen from the top down, and it's not gonna happen, especially with the dude right now in office. He's like. He's just cutting people out constantly. And like, that shit informs his under. Under currents, like, you know, Senate, Congress. And it goes down because, okay, that's how you get constituents to vote for you. Like you said, that's how. That's how to get it. That's how to rile up the. The people. And it ain't going nowhere.
A
So, yeah, and I. I think if you. And again, the reason why I haven't really weighed in online, it's a couple reasons why I haven't, like, posted on social media about it. One, because it's not going to accomplish anything. I. I don't need to be, like, performative and. And, like, make anything about myself when a tragedy like this happens. And then two, it just. Is what's going to happen. If you post online, there's going to be 200 people that start arguing in the comments section with each other, that get angrier at each other and just turns everything more toxic. And it's like, I. It's kind of disgusting. And yeah, again, I also think that a big problem with the Internet right now and is people who are poisoned by irony. And it's been happening for a while and it's getting worse with all the different discord channels that people have. And like the online. I'm not blaming discord, by the way. I'm saying like the, the small communities that work each other up. If you read the shit that the dude allegedly engraved on the shell casings, like, this guy shot somebody killed, man, and he was like hahaha owned. And it's like, it's disgusting.
B
And oh, he, oh, he. They got access. I haven't been paying attention.
A
I'm not. He didn't write hahaha own, but that was like his ethos in. It was gotcha was law.
C
One was hey, fascist catch. Another had like some weird discord or some online thing. I didn't know what it was.
A
One was a video. A video game code one. One was OWO notices bulge, which is like a very online way of like making fun of trans people.
C
Okay. Yeah, I'd never heard of that before.
A
But yeah, I hadn't heard of it either. But you get the owl, like you can read into that and be like, okay, I can see where this came from. So I. Maybe this is a heavy way to start out your Tuesday. So I apologize if I'm putting everybody into a downer mood, but I didn't want to speak about it, especially because, like, after things happened, you don't really know what the went on and you need a few days to process and to see where things go with the investigation, all that. And there's still a whole lot that we're gonna find out that we don't know right now. Which is why I'm not getting into like super specifics about. Because there's a lot of that's wrong. There's a lot of that's right. And we don't know what's what until you give it a couple days.
B
I would assume because he's still alive, right?
A
Yep.
B
Sure. We'll get a statement from him at some point about his motivations. So the speculation is like, not really. Yeah, well, it's kind of pointless.
A
I don't know if we'll get a statement from him, but we might get access to things that he's written or some documents, but it doesn't sound like he's going to cooperate with the police.
B
Okay.
A
He probably has a lawyer and they've already said they're going to try for the death penalty. So it's like, I don't, I don't know that him Cooperating would provide him any benefit. So I don't know if he's going to end up doing that or not.
B
Yeah, I think the, the rhetoric that happens on. I hate to be the enlightened centrist, but on both sides of any kind of, like I said, politicized death. It's like the right owns this or the left owns this. It's just. I hate that shit, dog. It's like, because it's like, I don't look at it like that. I just look at it like you got some sick motherfuckers that are willing to kill people, period. Like, like you have people on the right who are like, conservatively, you know, I mean, fiscally conservative and they maybe don't believe in abortion, shit like that. Like, that is what it is. I'm not going to change your mind. We don't have to agree. That's fine. I don't want to murder you. And I'm positive the majority of. I don't want to murder me. It's just, it's just the, that that rhetoric causes those discord channels to explode. Yeah, they own this. It's you placing the blame on an entire ideology. Like, I saw a whole bunch of, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's like, you know, the reaction videos to reaction videos, that type shit. And it's like liberals, we're tired of you. I'm like, bro, I just want to have health care, dog. I'm not finna shoot nobody. I promise you, I want you to have healthcare. You may not agree with that, but that's fine. That's my main political agenda, though. I want you to have health care. That's bad. That's about it. So like to put it like on the left, the radical. It's just so. And it's not even smart. It's just stupid. It's dumb. And I just, I, I like as much as everybody, like, believes that they're critical thinking and critical thinkers. Like, that's when they need to be put that hat on when shit like this happens and log the fuck off. Yeah, like, not everybody wants to murder you, bro, because you believe life starts at conception. It's not the case, dog. It's. We don't agree. That's. That's life, man. We don't gotta agree. But now nobody want to murder you, bro. Majority, because that's crazy. But talking like that, you gonna spawn a whole bunch of them. But I don't know, it is sad.
A
Yeah.
B
What are you gonna do?
A
Very, very sad. Time in America.
B
A slight pivot. Your boy. Your boy Trump talk about the kickoff rules in the NFL.
A
Yes.
C
That's slight.
B
Not.
C
Listen, that's a hard pivot.
A
I don't want to get political, but Donald Trump is talking about the kickoff rules again. It's funny you bring that up, Erin, because I. I just sent a text to Sam Schwartzein to see if he could come on macrodosing Blacks to explain. Sam Schwartzstein is the inventor of the kickoff rule. He invented it for the XFL back in 2019, 2020, and it was then subsequently adopted by the NFL as their kickoff rule. And I was wondering if he had a response to the allegations from President Donald Trump that the kickoff rule quote, looks like hell, and Sam would like to come on the show. I've reached. I had to reach out through Amazon's PR because he works for Thursday Night Football. Also, I should specify the kickoff looks like heel. H e apostrophe. Ll I think he. He definitely meant looks like hell.
B
Right?
C
That's. Yeah. He got autocorrected.
A
Do you believe that the. That the kickoff looks like hell?
C
Yes.
A
Did you think that before Trump said it?
C
Yes.
A
You just visually don't like it, don't care for it? Yeah.
C
I actually think in practice, it's not as bad as I would have anticipated, though. Some of the alterations they've made around it, like a. A touchback going to the 35 is asinine, that kind of thing. But I do think, aesthetically, it looks terrible.
A
There's something about, like, two walls of dudes running at each other and just colliding.
B
Right.
A
It's probably not the safest thing, which is why there's football, which is why they tried to change it to reduce, or I guess in favor of player safety. But sometimes dudes just want to watch 10 guys sprint full speed into 10 other guys.
C
I think that's what.
A
That's what Trump's talking about.
C
What if 40 seconds left in a game, in a college game, you're down four teams kicking off. The team that's leading is kicking off. A guy goes offside on the kickoff, so now they have to move it back five yards. That puts the kick out to the seven. Guy returns it for a touchdown. A penalty on that kickoff changed the game.
A
Yeah.
C
Can't have that in the NFL now. It's just. Well, you wait until it lands in the landing zone, then he can return it. But if it goes out of the landing zone now it's to the 35. It's a whole.
A
So you're upset because we can no longer have offsides on the kicking team.
C
I'm saying you fundamentally changed the game. If you're going to get rid of the kickoff, just get rid of it.
A
Well, there's still the element of black.
C
Have the balls to get rid of it.
A
So over the weekend, we saw the guy in the Steelers did not know the rule and the ball rolled into the end zone. He didn't touch it. Seahawks recovered. Touchdown. There are. Because they change it and it's been changed a few times in the last two years. There are some teams that just don't know the rules.
C
My understanding was if the ball hits in the end zone on a kickoff, it's a touchback.
A
Not if it lands in the landing zone and then rolls into the end zone.
B
Right.
A
Which is kind of. That's a throwback, isn't it? Like it used to be, if you kicked the ball off, you had to down it. Like the player had to touch the ball and down it in the end zone or else it was a live ball.
B
Right.
C
I honestly don't know.
B
Yeah, but it's like, who gives a right? Get rid of kickoffs all together. It's dumb. Put the ball at 25 and let's play ball.
A
So, yeah, there's that. But also, I like the onside kick. They've ruined the onside kick.
C
That too.
A
You have to declare an onside kick.
B
Yeah. I mean, I'm not a fan of this. This rule. I like. I like my sports violent. I like my sports with fighting.
C
I'm glad. I'm glad someone's willing to say it.
B
Yeah. I like my sports with performance enhancing drugs. I want the biggest, baddest athletes available with science. And I want to see blood. That's what I want to say.
C
Basketball's a contact sport. Football's a collision sport. You don't have to play.
B
I mean, I'm with you. I don't. I mean, I don't like it. Like, I'm. Bring back the old rules where you can't. You got. This is the problem. You got. Well, first, let me. Let me disavow Trump statement. I will not condone soft dudes calling football sissy. I can't do that. You were soft. You could never play. So park that. First of all. Second of all, he. Right. You ever had, like in house fight, you and your family are fighting and somebody want to try to get in. You're like, no, not you. Yeah, but it's why you see the receivers nowadays, right? They small, they all tyreek hills and they like those kind of guys. They small because the rules have changed and you're no longer scared to go over the middle because you're going to get a flag thrown on you. Remember back in the days you had to be a big wide receiver because you was afraid to go over the middle because you going to get knocked out. It ain't like that no more. So that's why you see these 5 foot 10, 160 pound receivers now because they no threat in the middle no more.
A
Brian Thomas disagrees. Brian Thomas still, still a little bit scared.
B
Who?
A
Brian Thomas from the Jaguars.
B
Oh, I saw that clip.
A
There were a couple.
B
Yeah, he little alligator armed it a little bit. Yeah.
A
Trevor didn't do any favors. He kind of put him in harm's way. But also it was, it was bad tape.
C
One of my favorite quotes of all time is Michael Irvin. I think he was asked like about going over the middle or something and he said every time I did it I said I either catch this football or I go back to the projects.
A
Yeah.
C
And so like so I caught the football.
A
I saw that. Yeah. So he said it's football and it's bad for America and it's bad for the NFL. Now I, I do think that he was able to put his finger on something that I've thought but I haven't really been able to describe. So credit to Trump for this. He said the ball is moving and players are not. The exact opposite of football is all about. That's. I think that absolutely nails it right on the head. Right?
C
Yeah.
A
The ball's moving but nobody is reacting to it.
C
That's it. It's a solid point.
A
That's a great point that he made, sir. Thank you sir.
C
Good truth.
A
I'm about to go buy a red hat.
C
This is make football great again. Make football. Would you put that one on?
A
The problem with the make blank grid, that was a moment that we had in America where like everybody was rushing to the market with their own like make blank grid again. Including people that were not a fan of Donald Trump and from a distance they all look like make America great again.
C
Well then do you remember people started making the hats that were like this hat is stupid in order to try to get people to think that they were wearing a MAGA hat to come up and be mad at them and be like haha, gotcha. Yeah, I'm on your team.
B
Right.
C
They like wanted people to get mad.
A
So yeah, it didn't work out. Didn't work out. What else we got in the news today. Big. I've got a couple of things that I wanted to get into real quick. I'm glad that we talked about the critical thinking group chat.
B
I.
A
Please keep me abreast. Who.
C
Who was. Who. Who told you that rumor? That was clearly false and just a.
A
Little fly on the wall.
C
Interesting.
B
Yeah.
A
A big, tall fly on the wall. Shaved head.
B
Okay.
C
Yeah. The guy who. Who was actually maybe at fault.
A
Maybe. Possibly. You want to stick? I'll give you. Choose your own adventure. You want to stick with football, or do you want something that happened to me over the weekend that I'm a little bit embarrassed about?
C
Let's do that and then we'll go back.
A
Okay. I think I got scammed this weekend.
C
Oh, no.
A
I'm usually awesome at detecting scams. I always say, like, I'm mentally tough. I'm immune to being brainwashed. Brainwashed. I've. I've had experiences where I've been in, like, a cult recruitment situation. I just laugh and I'm like, you people are ridiculous.
C
Before you continue. I got a new scam text this weekend, and it didn't get me unflappable. But I am curious. Was it a text?
A
It was not a. It was an IRL scam.
C
Oh, really? Okay, continue. I thought you may have fallen for a new.
A
No, this. This happened to me live in the flesh. So on Saturday, halftime of the Vols Bulldogs game, which we can get into in a little bit, I made a quick trip to Home Depot to pick up some stuff.
B
Okay.
A
On my way back, how doers get more done, Stop by the car wash because my car got towed last week. It's a long story. They put it in a impound lot that was apparently made from moon dust. So it was just my car was the outside looked like. So I stopped at a car wash, get it washed, and I start to vacuum out a little bit of the inside. I pull up, park, the guy next to me pulls up, he goes, I love your car, dude. I love that car. And I knew something was weird because this guy was, like, very assertive and like, yeah, my car, it's an okay looking car, but this was not the El Camino, by the way. So I was like, but nobody.
C
I guess that with the car wash.
A
But yeah, nobody, nobody would ever, like, approach me on the street, be like, dude, what a sick ride. That's awesome. So my antenna was up a little bit, and he goes, I love those cars, man. I see them all the time. And that's my favorite kind of car in the world. I was like, oh, thanks, man. Just trying to vacuum my car. And he goes, I see you got a dent in the side of it, which I do because of Hank's pole that he put up in the parking.
C
Lot that he did not just laugh.
D
You still have it.
A
It was a little bit of a scrape and a small dent. Yeah. Because I didn't feel like taking it into the body shop, and I knew they were going to try to charge me, like, you know, 1500 bucks, so. And it was a. It was a small dent, but it was there. And so the guy goes, I see you got that dent in the side of it. I work at a. I work at a. A body shop, and I got the tools with me right now, and I can fix that dent and take all the scratches out of the side of your car. And I was like, okay. But I'm trying to, like, move the conversation along to see what he's really getting at. So he's trying to go down this whole sales pitch with me. I was like, how much do you want? He's like, they would charge you $3,000 for this. I was like, tell me how much you're going to charge me right now. He was like, I'll do it for. For 150 bucks. And I was like, 150 bucks? He's like. He's like. He's like, just get in your car and hit the brake. And then he. He took. He took, like, the tools out of his car. And I was like, wait, wait, wait. How much are you going to charge me for? He's like, 150 bucks right now. I was like, let me get your card, and I'll give you a call back. He's like, I can't. I can't give you a car. I don't have a card. And he's like, just get in your car, sir, and put your foot on the brake, because I'm about to pull this out, and I don't want your car to move while I'm trying to pull it out.
B
That.
A
To me, hand up that. That should have been red flag right there. That was red flag because my car was in park. It's like, what's my foot on the brake gonna do that the. The parking brake won't do? And so I get in, put my foot on the brake. I hear this pop, and then I come out, and he's, like, smearing all this epoxy stuff or whatever it is on the side of it to fix the scratch. He's like, wipe this off in, like, two hours with. With soap and warm water. I was like, okay. So I paid him the money. He drove away. Then I started to look closer at the. I. I don't think he got the dent out. I think it was. I think it was a fake thing that he did. There's still like a. I haven't looked at it under the sunlight yet because I drove it home. It still had all this white all over it. And then I parked it on the street. And I haven't gone back to, like, inspect it since then, but I think I got taken for 150 bucks.
C
Can I. Maybe I'm dumb. What was the purpose of putting your foot on the brake?
A
There was no purpose. He was telling me because.
C
Oh, to get in the car.
A
Yeah, so that. Yeah.
C
So, okay.
A
From his point of view, he was like, I don't want this guy watching. All right.
C
Yeah, I did. I. I couldn't. Okay, I got it.
A
And I think putting the. The, like, scratch fixer on top of it afterwards was a way for me to not be able to see if he got the dent out or not. Wait, hold on.
B
So we don't know if the dent is out or not.
A
I haven't taken a quick look when I drove it home and I parked it.
B
I.
A
Look.
B
Can't say you guys can. You don't know. You.
C
Did you not do what he told you to do with the soap and warm water?
A
Yeah, but it was dark out when I did that.
C
You should be able to feel a dentist.
A
Yeah, well, there's also, like, a natural dent in the side of the car. Like, the way that the door is designed has, like, a natural dent. Well, it has like a. It's the design of the panel. It's curved, so I need to get. I need to get closer and do a thorough visual inspection of both sides of the car to see if the symmetry is there.
B
I don't. I don't know that you got scammed.
A
So I was thinking about that, but then I went home last night and I looked it up online. I was like, car dent fix scam. And it was everywhere online.
B
That's what you. That's what you type.
A
It was everywhere. Everyone's like, beware of this. Of this current scam that's going on right now. And step by step, what the guy did to me, that was the scam. But I'm going to go home today. I'm going to inspect it. There is a chance that he just did good work for me, but he did it using the Exact same steps of trying to do a scam.
C
I mean, worst case scenario, you're at 150 bucks. You made it sound like something terrible happened, Right?
A
No, I mean that. That is the worst case scenario.
C
Out 150. Or you got your dent fixed for 150 and you're not. You don't even know.
A
So my problem wouldn't necessarily being being out 150 bucks for it, because all in all, it could be a lot worse.
C
It's allowing yourself to be scammed.
A
It's allowing myself to get tricked by a very obvious scam. That's what I have a problem with.
C
But we haven't even conclusively determined that it was a scam.
A
We have not yet. Okay, we have not.
B
But.
A
But again, it followed all the exact same steps as an established scam.
B
A car dent fix scam involves unsolicited individuals in parking lots offering quick on the spot repairs for dents, often for cash upfront payment. These scams are fake, using proper tools like plungers, and typically leave vehicles worse off by damaging the paint or metal. So do you just. You didn't see the tools that he used?
A
I saw. Yeah, it was like a bright green suction cup that had a handle on it that he stuck on the side of the car.
B
Did he do any twisting move?
A
Yeah, there was some twisting and then some pulling.
B
I might have got you right. I'm curious to see. I don't know.
A
Yeah, he might have done great work for a reasonable price. In which case, like, I. I'm gonna feel kind of like a genius.
C
No, should feel kind of like an.
B
Well, you tell. You tell the world. A man scams you people.
C
Listen to this.
B
Saved you $3,000.
A
Well, hand up. I also, I tipped him an extra 50 bucks on top.
B
Here.
C
Got two more for y'.
B
All.
A
Yeah, I did hook him up because I. In the moment, I was like, this guy just did me a solid. But then.
D
Okay, so you thought it was fixed when you tipped him?
A
Yeah, but it was covered in. It was covered in this, like, white foam. So I couldn't even see the dentist at the time.
D
Okay, okay.
A
But yeah, in the moment, I was like, yeah, he. He hooked it up.
C
We need to know when you get home if the dentist fixed.
B
Expeditiously.
A
Okay, I'll take a picture of both sides of it in the sunlight. Because I didn't. I. I took it home. It still had the. The foam on it. Then at night, I went out, I washed it off. Didn't get a great look at It. It was parked on the street.
B
Feel it, though. Like, how you don't feel not. You know, I feel like you would have felt the indentation on the. You'd have felt that.
A
Well, no, I'm saying there is an indentation on the car, but that's the design of the panel. Both. Even the side that was not dented has a certain indentation on it. So I don't know if it's that same indentation or if it's a little bit deeper or if it's different and the shape is different.
B
I feel like you'd have felt the inconsistency while you're rubbing your hand over the. The panel.
A
I might have, but. Yeah. Then on Sunday morning, I just went to the gym, went to work, and did not inspect the car. So we'll see. Is the car here now? No, it's not. Drove the El Camino today.
B
Oh, okay.
A
So I will go home and inspect.
B
We gotta clear. We gotta clear my man's name. And in the. In the case that he. He did you. He did you, right?
A
Yep. All right, so you want to talk about football now?
B
Let's do it.
A
Okay. First of all, thoughts and prayers to Joe Burrow. Turf toe rears its ugly head again.
C
Is that the injury whose name is most misaligned with its severity?
B
Yes, it has to be.
C
Because isn't it like your toe, like, completely bends all the way back the wrong way?
A
So what I heard is that the toe is basically a knee that's attached to your foot, like a very small knee. And so there's a lot of stuff that goes through your toe that can absolutely it up. Like, your toe has its own acl. Your toe has its own mcl. And turf toe, I think, is more about all the tendons and ligaments, and that's on the bottom of your foot that connects to your toe. And so it's not just the toe. It's like your whole foot that's up.
D
Why do they call it that?
A
Do we know? I don't know, because I guess you can get your foot stuck in turf, your toe stuck in turf, and then that can up your foot, and so they just assign blame to the toe for it.
C
Turf toe occurs.
B
Go ahead. Go ahead.
C
Turf toe occurs when the big toe is hyperextended or bent backward excessively. This can happen during activities that involve sudden changes in direction, such as running on artificial turf, jumping, planting, and pushing off from the big toe.
B
Yeah, so it's like a. It's like. It's like a knee Sprain, almost. But it's on your toe, and it's. It's much harder to get over because you're constantly putting weight on it everywhere you go. Like, it's. You don't really think about how much force you apply to your. Your toes, but it's a lot. It's all. And it's all the time. And so when it's not there, it's very noticeable. It was one of the most painful injuries I ever had. I got it in 2007. I felt the effects from it five years into the league, easy.
A
Damn.
B
Shit hurts, though.
D
Did you get the surgery or no?
B
No, I just wrote it out. I had. So I got it right before the Outback bowl, so I rested a week, and I definitely had a bunch of painkillers. But that whole week of practice I had. I wear a size 13. I had to wear a 14 on that foot because the pressure was just too much. It was crazy. Yeah, that hurts, though. That ain't no. It ain't no. That hurts.
C
We gotta find a better name for it.
A
We do.
B
Remember, Dr. Was out for a long time because of that.
A
Yeah. When you hear turf toe, you think that this is like a.
C
Sounds like you stubbed it.
A
Yeah, it sounds like you stubbed it. Or it's like something that has been, like, creeping up on you and gradually getting, like, a little bit worse and worse and worse. Like a lingering thing. Not necessarily an acute thing that happened when you did something that caused, like, an instantaneous injury. But the doll. The Bengals are now without quarterback. They've got Jake Browning. James Winston is out there. Kirk Cousins is out there. Andy Dalton is out there. Is it coming home?
C
Is he on a. Is he still in the Panthers?
A
I believe so.
D
I have a quick question.
A
Yep.
D
About Kirk Cousins. Didn't he just sign that huge contract, though?
A
He did. He was a free agent a year and a half ago. Signed with the Falcons.
D
So why can. Then he. Like, would the Bengals buy out his contract?
A
My guess, like, how does that work? Knowing the. The Bengals ownership, they're probably not thrilled at the prospect of paying Kirk Cousins millions and millions of dollars.
D
Right. At.
C
As a place could eat some of it, right?
A
The Falcons could eat some of it.
B
Yeah. Okay.
C
And they're paying him anyway. So you may as well. If you figure they're like, we'll pay 25 of the 40 year.
A
But even still, I was going to say, like, if they agreed to pay $30 million, the Bengals would still then have to agree to pay $10 million.
C
What are they Paying Burrow.
A
They still have to pay him. That's the thing about the Bengals ownership. Sure, they're not going to be thrilled about the prospect of paying Kirk Cousins $10 million. That's a lot of money.
C
Yeah. I mean, I don't know, maybe the Falcons say, listen, we'll pay the whole thing, but you got to give us a third round pick.
A
Yeah, they could work something like that.
C
Because they're paying the whole thing anyway.
D
Is it all guaranteed? Is Kirk Cousins money all guaranteed through this year?
C
Yes. And then he'll get cut after this year.
A
I was thinking the Falcons might have signed Kirk Cousins as a. As a smokescreen. I mean, they're never going to think that we're going to draft Michael Pinnock if we pay Kirk Cozens $80 million.
C
And to be fair, it worked. No one did.
A
Yep. No one did. He looks good, by the way.
C
He might be good.
A
I think Penix is good. The red zone offense sucked last night.
C
Yeah, but that's why we sign a kicker who can make field goals.
A
That's true.
C
Listen, you make nine field goals, you're going to win ball games.
A
That's true.
C
I only made it five, but don't.
D
Let Arian hear that.
C
Well, I might be on Arian's side now about just getting rid of kicking, because in the other. In. In the other game, it didn't help me. That wasn't Max Gilbert's fault, though.
A
So do we want to talk about that?
B
You're now. You're now a meme in my family, fam.
C
Oh, no, from that stream.
B
I said I sent it to the group.
C
Which one? Oh, the one you sent me, like.
B
Turning it off game. Me.
C
Yeah, well, the way it ended was the worst because he clearly scored and they reviewed it for. For five minutes and I was like, I want to just turn it off, but I have to sit here and wait until they announce it's a touchdown. All right. Touchdown. Good game. Me.
B
Okay. Touchdown. Good game. Me.
A
I'm sorry.
C
It was a great game.
A
It was a really good game from an objective outsider that doesn't have a dog in the fight. I, I enjoyed watching the game. Tennessee kind of themselves. Well, they did themselves at the, at the end of that game several times.
B
It just sucks because that Georgia quarterback made one of the better throws you will see at that level. That shit was a dart. Oh, my God. That was nasty.
C
Great play. I just don't remember the last time we played, like, very well against a very good team and lost. Yeah, we've played poorly against good teams and lost. We've played poorly against bad teams and lost and we've played great against good teams and won. I don't remember the last game. We played a really good team and played that well and lost, which sucks because I think we're really, really good.
A
Yeah. So it sounds to me. Well, was that your attitude right after the game or you just like.
C
I mean, obviously it sucks that we lost. I would have rather won and it was very painful. But we're awesome.
A
Yeah.
C
So go win the rest of your games and it'll all work itself out.
A
Yeah, it will. I've seen the, the playoff projections. I haven't seen one that still has Tennessee in it. But that, I think that's fair. I think that's short sighted.
C
I mean, I think there's a lot of, a lot of ball left.
A
A lot of ball left. And you guys got a quarterback.
C
I think Tennessee should no longer recruit high school quarterbacks.
A
Okay.
C
We should exclusively get quarterbacks out of the transfer portal because I feel like now that we've got four and a third years of evidence, hypo system works the best with guys who, even if you might not think they're the most supremely talented. If you get a guy who is experienced, has played college football, can read the field and is a little more athletic than your average guy that can move around and make some plays like he's going to run the offense very, very well.
A
I agree.
C
Hinden Hooker was nowhere near an NFL prospect. Showed up at Tennessee and was one of the best players I've ever seen.
A
I agree.
C
Joey Aguilar, everybody said is not good, shows up and might be the second best quarterback in the SEC this year.
A
If you're accurate, you can move around the pocket and you've seen defenses and you understand what, where the players are going to be.
C
Yes.
A
Then that's really all you need to be a very good quarterback. I agree with that 100%. Yeah, his offense is very quarterback friendly. If you have those like basic talent, you don't have to be a special guy coming out of high school that's like a unicorn and we got one.
C
Of those and he sucks. So. By the way, I think, you know, their coach got fired, ucla. I think Nico might just quit.
A
You think he's going to quit football?
C
Quit that this season. And I think I, if he was smart, he'd try to go somewhere else again because his career is not going the way he planned. I think he might be like, I'm preparing for the draft. That's which would be a very poor decision.
A
But if the draft. Yeah, right now. If the draft was. Was today. Does Nico get drafted?
C
Maybe somebody in the sixth or seventh round is like, we'll take a flyer. But I just, I. I don't see it. He's bad.
A
It's a combination of. Of red flags and also just not being very good.
C
Right.
B
He.
C
I just bet against UCLA every week now. Just. I don't care who they're playing. I don't care what the spread is. I bet against UCLA so far we're three and oh. So I'm going to keep doing that for the rest of the season. It seems like a pretty good strategy at this point.
A
What else did you take away from college football this weekend?
C
I picked Texas A and M to go to the playoff before the season. That looks solid.
B
Oh yeah, I won that bit.
C
Florida still stinks.
B
LSU, what was the final score to that one?
A
2010.
C
20 to 10. LSU, Florida through five interceptions. Shout out. DJ Lagway. Georgia Tech very good. Clemson pretty bad. Clemson as a, as a program is just not. I saw a comparison earlier today between them and Vanderbilt.
B
Mm.
C
Let me see if I can pull it back up real quick. Over the last season and a half, like since the start of 2024, Vandy is 10 and 6 overall. Clemson's 11 and 6. Vandy 7 and 5 against Power Conference teams. Clemson 8 and 6. Clemson. Oh, and 4 against the SEC. Vanderbilt 4 and 5. Vandy 2 wins versus the top 15. Clemson 1.
A
And Vandy looked real good this weekend.
C
Yeah, might be. Might be a pretty good football team. I think they're going to be five and oh, going to Alabama. Talk to your children about a 5 and O Vanderbilt team.
A
It's an important conversation to have.
C
Yeah.
A
Virginia Tech looks like they're just rudderless. I've seen a lot of Mike Vick to Virginia Tech to save the program talk out there. I don't know that. That might be a little bit hasty.
C
I don't think in the current, like five years ago you could have hired Michael Vick and maybe in five years you can hire Michael Vick, but you can't. They're in a position right now with conference realignment stuff and all that. You can't, you can't take that chance.
A
I think it's like Virginia Tech and UVA are both trying to get that SEC invitation.
C
Yes.
A
And they'll probably only give it to one.
C
Does Virginia Tech not strike you? I can't describe why. They just feel like a Big 12 team to me.
A
Hmm.
C
It just feels like a Big 12 place.
A
They definitely feel more Big 12 than SEC. The reason why is because Frank Beamer and the way that his teams would play that is definitely big. Big 12.
C
Yeah.
A
It's like, block some punts, return some kicks, get crazy with it. On offense, you don't think about, like, amazing team defense when it comes to, like, speed and athleticism.
C
Now they have some awesome defenses.
A
They have. But you don't think of, like, you're right. They don't fit in with that same LSU mold or that same, like, Florida in good years mold. But yeah, they've had some really good defensive players. Cam Chancellor, great player. They've got some good quarterbacks, too, cornerbacks that have played there over the years. D' Angelo Hall. Yeah. I mean, Mike Vick would be like a splash hire, but I don't know if it would be a good, like, program. The problem with Virginia Tech is it was built around one guy.
C
Yeah. Well, his son's out there.
A
His son is out there.
C
Do you think might not have a great rest of this season where he's at.
A
Do you think he would leave South Carolina?
C
He shouldn't. I wouldn't anticipate it.
A
The thing is, if he goes to Virginia Tech and he has any level of success, I'm talking, like, bowl games every year, he's got a job for life.
C
But he's going to get there and they're going to be like, all right, Frank Beamer's back. We're going to be top 15 every year. And they're just not in a. A position to do that.
A
Yeah. Especially with jmu.
C
Yeah.
A
If you want to point to one issue that Virginia Tech and UVA have had in the last five years, JMU is taking all the talent. That's where you. That's where you want to go if you want to win football games in state and Virginia.
C
Didn't Old Dominion beat Virginia Tech a few years ago, too? They need to quit scheduling them.
A
They did. ODU beat them. JMU beat them. And that was back in, like, 2012, 2011.
C
They need to stop scheduling in state. Group of five teams.
A
I agree. You're just. You're setting yourself up for a big disappointment.
C
Yeah.
A
Let's see. What else do we have in college football from this weekend? Oklahoma looks good.
C
Yeah. Big game this weekend. Jackson Arnold coming back in there.
A
Yeah. It was a great day. Great day for college football and great games. Yep.
C
Wish one of them turned out differently.
A
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C
Me neither.
A
Hand up. Did not realize that. Mad Dog. I assumed that you were locked in.
D
I was.
A
Any takeaways?
D
Did you guys see the counter that Nate Bargazzi did?
C
No.
D
Okay, so if you weren't paying attention at the start of the show, Nate Bargazzi basically said him and DJ Smoove said we're going to donate $100,000 to the boys and girls club of America. But the caveat is, for every second a speech goes over, we deduct $1,000. And for every second a speech goes under, we add $1,000. Okay, so obviously the. The point is to. To stay under the time. Thank you, Adrien Brody, for ruining the fun for everyone else. And so that was a little odd because, like, instead of playing the Music, like, you know, to usher them off, they would just put up the charity counter in the bottom corner. So it was like you went two seconds over, all of a sudden, you know, you're actively losing money now. Was that a shtick? Most likely. I'm assuming they're probably just gonna donate.
C
A hundred thousand dollars.
D
But it was. That was kind of weird because it was like, instead of music, they literally just put up the counter. Hannah Einbinder was one of the winners last night, and at one point she went over a couple seconds and she was like, I'll just pay the difference. Like, let me talk. So I think that was a little bit odd. I also think, again, like, the Adrien Brody of it all, last year at the Oscars, when he. Or this year at the Oscars, when he went seven minutes, I think that has, like, ruined a lot of it because also I noticed that the presenter bits were, like, especially long. At least from what I noticed, they were incredibly long. And then that also made the speeches feel that much shorter. And also, like, I'd rather have a longer winner speech than a presenter speech. The. The presenter bits are never that funny. And I don't need to hear about you. Like, you're not the one that's important here. Um, overall, I think Nate Bargazzi is getting kind of mixed review. Mixed to negative reviews on his performance. I like him, obviously, as a comedian, so I wasn't bothered by his hosting performance. I think there's been better. I think there has been far worse. So, I mean, middle of the line, I will say his. Whatever skincare he's doing, he looked glowing. He was glowing.
A
The skincare routine is.
D
Oh, my God. I literally looked at the TV at one point, and everyone makes fun of me on Twitter. I have, like, a Michael Scott ass tv, small tv. So it's not the greatest, but I could see every pore on that man's face. Like, he was glowing or not. The lack of force. He looked great. But yeah, the Emmys were good, but the. I feel like I got cut for time on a lot of speeches that.
A
Could have probably seven minutes is ridiculous.
D
More impactful. Yeah, well, again, he ruined it for everyone. And now. Now it's like a. Like a weird, like, shtick that is running through more awards shows that it's like, don't go over. It's like, no one's gonna do the seven minute thing again. And if you do, like, I think at that point, rather than the charity thing, they should do the cane and pull you off. Yeah, they did in the old days.
A
I mean, I, I, or throw tomatoes. I personally don't care about award shows. You like to see like what people are wearing, what they say, who's friends with who. Yeah. To me it's just, it's a big marketing thing for, for the people that are getting the awards and.
D
Yeah.
A
Just for the industry. So like I'm not gonna, I don't also don't think that any host is ever gonna be universally loved by anybody.
D
I think the closest we got, honestly was Nikki Glaser. I think she did such an amazing job and like everyone really appreciated it. Obviously I'm sure a couple people didn't like it, but that's the last time I can think of someone being universally loved. Or when Billy Crystal posted a lot, he did always super well. Or Conan. I think there are certain people who are built for it more than others. Like I think the late night hosts are better at hosting.
A
Yeah.
D
Than a stand up comedian. Like, remember Jo Koy last year? Like everyone.
A
I do not.
D
Okay. Jo Koy, I believe, hosted the Emmys last year. He hosted an award show last year and it was like genuinely so bad. And I don't know his comedy, but it was awful and he was very patronizing and I did not enjoy it and it seemed, I don't think I found one positive review of him. But I think like Conan o', Brien, Stephen Colbert is hosted. I think, I think he's done a good job. Jimmy Fallon had a good run. Jimmy Kimmel, like, I think that they have a better grasp on actually hosting a program than some like stand up comedians that are funny but aren't usually the ones like going at a pace of a run of show.
A
Yeah.
D
So that's my, that's my Emmys review. I'm happy for a lot of the people that won. Did you see the, did you watch Adolescence?
A
I did, yeah.
D
The boy won. The 15 year old.
A
He was a very good actor.
D
Yeah. Which he had it. He was so sweet. He had such a sweet speech, which I like. When a child actor wins, that's really cool. But yeah, he won, which was a really cool moment.
A
That show was a tough watch.
D
I couldn't bring myself to watch it. I really, I know what the premise is. I really could not bring myself to watch that show.
A
All the acting in it was fantastic. Like some of the best I've seen on TV in years.
D
They basically swept the whole limited series category. Besides, I think Cristen Meloti won for the Penguin, but the dad won.
A
Yeah, he was Great.
D
The son won, the therapist won. Adolescence one for. I think they won six enemies total. So they basically just sweeped the whole limited series category.
A
Yeah, it was. It was like a really well done show.
D
It was all in one shot, too.
A
All in one shot. That was the crazy part about the acting is like everything that you see. That's just one take that they did for the entire episode. And it's what, like three episodes? Four episodes.
D
Yeah. Something.
A
But very tough watch. Not exactly uplifting at all. But also I expected something different when I watched. I thought it was going to be almost like a Law and Order where there's like a plot twist or what happened and then it's just. It's just a show that just gets, like, worse and worse in terms of, like, how you're feeling while you watch it. But still great acting in it.
D
Yeah, that. That kid, I've been seeing clips of him on my Twitter since he won last night. It's insane. And that was his first time on a set, first time doing any, you know, TV project. And he wins an Emmy for it. Like, that's awesome for him.
A
When you ask Nate Bargazzi to host your ceremony, I don't think that you're going into it thinking, like, oh, this guy is going to be like an explosive personality. Like, he's a very funny standup comedian, but he's like, dry and he's very calm and he's good at what he does. But, like, I don't know why people expected something different out of him as a host.
D
I. I was a little bit confused by that. I do think he is. Yeah, dry is a good word for it. I think also big T, correct me if I'm wrong, I think he's pretty clean as well.
C
Yeah, he doesn't cuss at all.
D
Yeah. So I think that's a big up for, you know, cable television. I did find it to be a little bit of a choice because, yeah, he isn't very boisterous.
B
Cuss words still a thing. Do people still.
D
I mean, you can't cuss on television.
B
The FCC still regulates cuss words.
A
Oh, yeah?
D
Yeah.
B
Ridiculous.
D
Like, they had a. They had, I think two times last night, two speeches. People cussed and they had to blurt it out.
C
I think it's what, after. Is it after 10 o'? Clock? You can or something.
A
You get away with more, but there's still things that you can't say.
C
Right.
D
And they don't go. Most of the. That award show is before 10:00'.
B
Clock.
A
Yeah.
D
But Yeah, I like the award shows. I like when people that have been working for a long time get their flowers. Like, no, Wiley and Tramell Tillman. I like all those people.
C
Vfl.
D
Yeah. Tramell Tillman. First black actor to win in that category as well. Black male actor. Very exciting.
C
By the way, I'm seeing that Nate Bargazzi ended up giving 250 grand to the Boys and Girls Club and CBS gave 100. So anyone that's mad about.
A
Yeah, yeah.
C
Like, that's funny. And it is gonna give money the whole time anyway.
D
Right.
C
So you give 250 grand to the Boys and Girls Club if you want to get mad about it.
D
Right. But, yeah, I think it was. It was a pretty, like, run of the mill. Nothing crazy. Crazy happened. Yeah. I will say their opening. The opening for it was the SNL skit that he did last year where it was him being, I think, like a.
C
He was George Washington.
D
Yeah. And he was explaining, like, how the rules of America will work. And he did that same skit with, like, Bo and Yang and a couple of the SNL cast members. And someone did point out, which I didn't think about, it is a bit odd that he was allowed to do that sketch at the Emmys because it's not his sketch. Like, he didn't write that. I don't know if, like, the SNL writer that wrote that was writing the Emmys opener, but I do. I wonder what the rules are there of, like, did they just kind of, like, steal your bit, Loki? But also, there were.
C
I'm sure they just called and were like, hey, we want to do this.
D
Yeah. And also SNL people were the ones that were in it. So I'm assuming there was some side of some kind of, like, working it out thing. But I was like, that is interesting. But, yeah, go Emmys. Happy award season, everyone.
A
Is it award season?
D
I mean, this is kind of the kickoff to it. It'll be a couple months before we're in full swing. That's like the winter.
C
But wait, wait, wait. Hang on. Aren't the. The Oscars are in, like, March, so awards season is September to March?
D
No, I was actually just having this conversation with an intern out there. But it's like the Emmys are the kickoff, and then there's a break until, like, oh, God, I don't know, like December. And then they pick up again. And then it's like December, January through March.
A
And the takeies in July.
D
And the takeies in July. So, honestly, we've already started.
C
Yeah, I can't prove this, but I was discussing this about New York Fashion Week, which was apparently last week.
D
It was, in fact.
C
That occurs nine times a year. I can't prove it, but it does. I feel the same with country music award shows. There are.
D
There's a lot of.
C
Have to be six. Like, it's every other month there's a country music award show.
A
Yep.
C
I don't know how. How all these are still a profitable endeavor.
D
I don't know if they are.
C
I mean, but worthwhile, I guess I should say. They're. They're every week.
D
Yeah.
C
New York Fashion Week, it's coming up again. It's in three weeks.
A
It is.
C
I don't know if y' all knew that.
A
It is ridiculous.
D
Yeah, it's. It's a lot. I. I was saying, like, because one of the guys out there was like, why are you. Why are we doing the Emmys now? Why don't we do the Emmys with the rest of the award season, like, in January? I'm like, at a certain point, there is a fatigue of it. Like, I literally just saw you on my TV win this two weeks ago. So I think you have to spread some of it out.
C
We need one week. Put everybody from all this stuff in Los Angeles, California. Monday is the Emmys. Tuesday is the Oscars. Wednesday is the Screen Actors Guild Performers Society of the Year Awards. Do them all in one week, and then we're done. Everybody. You can stay in your same hotel the whole week. And then. And then that's it.
A
I don't hate that.
D
Yeah, it's not a bad idea.
A
Do they get good ratings at least?
D
I don't know. I don't know.
C
Honestly, nothing gets good ratings anymore. I can't imagine that. The awards, they weren't. As of Recently, I'm seeing 6 million. I don't know if that's confirmed or not.
B
Yeah.
D
And I also don't know what a.
C
Good number for those in 2015, it was 12. 2005, it was 18.
D
Oh. So no, I am seeing a lot of Nate Bargetzi. Falls flat bad. Bit sad. I like him. Old Hickory Zone.
C
No, he's the best. Anybody?
D
I like him.
C
Yeah. I don't. I don't care about the Emmys. I saw Variety said, criticized him for being. What?
A
Jaden Daniels.
C
What happened?
B
He's hurt.
D
What?
C
How bad?
D
What happened?
A
Spray knee.
C
That sounds like you can. You can play through it.
A
Yeah, shut the up, Arian. I'm saying a sprain. I need to know what the grade is. What's the Grade on his knee.
D
Did he get hurt?
A
There's different practice. There's different grades of sprains. No. Is in the Thursday night game.
B
Oh. Usually a spray means some kind of small tear in a ligament, usually the MCL or lcl.
C
The injury is not believed to be serious.
B
Oh, it could be. I did.
A
He can have my.
B
Whoa. Drama queen tea over there. What's wrong with you, man?
A
He can have my knee, people. Well, status is uncertain.
B
How long we've been covering the NFL, dog. Half the. Half the roster's on. That's what. That's what they say.
A
You know what.
B
What is this?
A
Wednesday? We're all uncertain. Every day is a gift. Cherish it.
C
It's Monday, by the way. Long week ahead, man.
B
You know. You know, I had a long weekend, so that's. Yeah, you're right.
D
Did you have fun in Milwaukee?
B
Oh, it's blast, man. Great. Oh, yeah, we clenched, too. It's. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Beautiful thing to be a Brewers fan.
C
Clinch a playoff spot.
B
Yeah. Clinch.
C
Not the division yet, but.
B
No, no, no. I mean, that's. Right. That's wrapped up, too, but we clinched the playoff spot. We. You know what it is? You know what it is. 90 wins. It's great. Fun team to watch. Fun team to watch.
C
Did you see Bob Euchre's letter?
B
I didn't see his letter, but I saw a lot of hype over it. What was the.
C
I sent it in the group chat. He. You know who he is, right? Yeah, he, I guess, wrote a letter right before he died and gave it to the owner and said, I want. Read this to the team next time they make the playoffs.
B
Holy.
C
And the manager read it, and it was awesome and so cute. Yeah, he's. He's.
B
Watch that, then. Wow. That's amazing.
C
He said, I'm. I'm on the team up here, but God has me as the third catcher. He. He was the best, so. Feel good. They're America's team, I think.
B
Yeah. I mean, this. I mean, it's been a. It's been a fun.
A
It's not.
B
It's not your normal. From what. From my understanding about baseball, it's like. Like a normal, dominant team. It's, like, very. It's fun to root for, you know, the underdogs that are on top. Let us see it. Did y' all watch the. The fight? Canelo and Crawford?
A
I saw the highlights of it, but I didn't watch the fight.
B
You missed a master class. That's what I don't Know how. I don't know how much of a fan of boxing you are, but he put on a master class, though. It was. It was special to watch.
A
Some of the combinations that I saw him throw were just unreal, man.
B
He just a very. It's. There's. There's two boxers I've seen that. It's. It's just when you watch him, it's like this is poor poetry when you watch it. Fights Crawford and it's Mayweather like and, and for. Hey, I think he went up two weight classes to fighting too. And he's like 40 something, if I think 40. But it was impressive, man. He's had a hell of a run to one of the best to ever do it. Honestly.
A
It was. It was an ass kicking from what I saw. Nobody was upset about the. The judge's decision, right? Like, no controversy.
B
It was. I had Canelo winning like I think one round or two.
A
Yeah.
B
And it was like, maybe you can give it to him. But now he. He dominated the entire fight. It wasn't new close. Canelo do it too.
A
Yeah, it was the. Some of the combinations I saw Canelo take was. It just looked brutal. Like body shot, body shot, wap across the face where he was like, what the Just happened to me.
B
Yeah, Canelo was real passive during the fight and it was just like I said, it's like everything he threw, he was countered so beautifully. The counters were insane saying dog. So run it back if you like. R. Like pure boxing. That was. That was beautiful to watch.
A
I'm excited to see the Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather fight. I think that's going to be a. A great bout.
B
What?
A
No, I. I'm like, bro, no, it's going to be. It's going to be the worst fight ever televised.
B
Hold on. They, they, they. That's. That's real.
A
Yeah. Come on with this.
B
See, this is when I don't just get me excited getting watching sports cabal again and then they do like that.
A
It's gonna be so bad.
B
Jesus Christ. I'm not watching it. I'm protesting.
A
All right, America, get ready to learn. Marcus Mariota, buddy.
D
He's your backup.
A
Yep.
D
I did not know that.
A
Yep.
C
Good for him.
A
He looked good against the Panthers or. Yeah, the Panthers. He came in last year.
C
Listen, take two weeks, make sure Jaden's healthy and bring him back after the Falcons game. That's about two weeks. Just get him right. Y' all don't. We're. We're gearing up for the playoffs. We don't need him to play in these games. Just give him a couple weeks, take a breather. He'll be good to go. You don't want to rush that.
A
I don't. I actually don't want to rush. You're right. I know what you're saying, but you're absolutely right. I've seen. I've seen the script where we have a mobile quarterback in D.C. pick second overall, that had a knee sprain.
C
Get back out there.
A
That got back out there to compete, and then things. Everything in everyone's life went to shit right afterwards.
C
What year? That was 2012.
A
Yes, 2012.
C
We don't want 2012. Is your line of demarcation for when. When everything went bad in terms of.
A
With the team? Yes.
C
Oh, well, you said everyone's lives.
A
Oh, that's my. I assume everyone feels the exact same way about Robert Griffin is like, people.
C
Always reference things from, like, 2016, and they say this is when everything went to shit.
A
Yeah.
C
Feels like 2008 could be a. A fine year to 2, 08 16.
A
The crisis. The financial crisis of, like, 2007. 2008. The. Yeah. Some people would say the death of Harambe in 2016. I would say when Robert Griffin played at FedEx Field against the Seattle Seahawks in the playoff game on a sprained mcl. Everything that happened after that point up until last year was bad for me.
C
That was the. Was that the divisional game?
A
That was the. Yes.
C
To play the Falcons in the NFC Championship.
A
That's right. Yep. And then Russell Wilson came in and Robert Griffin's knee exploded.
C
Falcons got up 17 to nothing and lost.
A
That was a crazy game.
B
Yeah.
A
People don't talk about that game.
C
I do.
A
It's incredible. So I'm fine. Everything's fine. It's gonna be fine. Not worried. Not worried.
D
At least you're not me.
A
Yeah. Happy birthday, desean. You guys might have a quarterback. Dylan Gabriel look pretty good.
D
Yeah, Whatever.
A
There you go. That's the spirit.
D
Whatever, dude.
A
That is the spirit.
B
I think I just got got by an ad. I'm gonna buy this, bro.
D
Oh, my God. You guys are sounding unk right now. You're getting scammed.
A
What is it online?
D
PFT's getting scammed in person.
A
It's an ad.
B
Okay.
A
It's a good.
B
It's a good idea to say. A good idea.
A
It's called.
B
Well, I don't know if it's called. It's called Fresh. It says Fresh juice on the thing. So it's like a little portable. You put fruit in there and it's.
C
Like a portable blender. Yeah.
B
Add water, you make a little, nice little fruit juice to go. That's. That's not. That's not cool.
C
I. If I were to guess, I think that thing probably works about four uses.
B
Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. I almost got.
C
You know what I do? You know what I do? Was that, like, on Instagram or something?
B
It's on Twitter.
C
Okay. Oh, well, that. So if I see something like that on Instagram and I like the product, I will go seek out to see if there are better versions of the product that are, like, legit and not advertising on Tick Tock.
B
You know what? I like that. That's a good. That's a good little life hack. I appreciate you sharing. I'm looking at portable fruit juicers. See what they're talking about?
A
I got really into juicing for about a week. I think that's how most people do it, right? You get a juicer and then you're like, I'm going to juice every day. I'm going to get all the nutrients. And then you realize what a pain in the dick it is to clean it up. And you're like, I'm not juicing ever again.
B
Yeah, but that's why. That's why this portable one looks so dope.
A
It's like, what's. What's so portable about it?
C
It's just like a cup.
B
It's portable. It's like. It's like.
A
It's like a water bottle.
B
It's like a water bottle with a blender on the bottom of it. Put the juice. Put the. Put the fruit in. Put some water on top of that. Jump. Blend him on up. Okay. Portable. All right.
A
We'll see how long you use it for.
B
You still frothing?
A
No, my fro. Disaster with the frother.
B
What happened?
A
Accidentally put it in the dishwasher.
B
How do you accidentally put something in the dishwasher?
A
It was in the sink, and I was just putting stuff in there, and I thought I didn't accidentally. I intentionally put it in there, and I was like, this will probably be fine. And then it wasn't fine, so I got to get another one.
B
Rip, Rip.
A
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All right.
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Voicemails.
B
What a macrodosing. Love you guys. I just had a question for Big T off of a brutal loss to Georgia. I hate it. I'm reeling, but why would you not run at least one more play? We had three timeouts and it was third down. What are we doing? And should I be concerned with Tennessee's play calling? I'm from Knoxville. Love the balls. Love you, Arian. Eric. And yeah, yeah, please let me know. I'm concerned.
C
So the play he's referencing is at the end of the game, the end of regulation. Tennessee was set to kick a, I believe, 38 or 39 yard field goal with seven seconds left. There was a false start on the field goal unit, so it moved it back. Now, it was only third down, so with seven seconds they could have run one more play, tried to get those yards back, call a timeout and then kick it. But Hypo elected to just go ahead and kick it anyway and Max Gilbert missed it.
B
I.
C
The conventional thinking there is you kick it on third down in case there's a bad snap or a bad hold or something and you can get another chance at it. I don't think it would have made a difference. I mean, the kick missed fairly badly. Now maybe if they picked up nine yards or something, but then you're. What if the clock runs out? I don't have a problem with kicking it. It was a kick that you should probably expect to make. So whatever. They lost the game in a ton of ways other than that.
A
Yeah, I don't think that if the kick was five yards closer. The ball goes through the uprights by the angle. That's. That's not what the issue was. But sometimes, like those 5 yards mentally can make a difference with your kicker.
C
I don't. Listen, I Anybody that's talking shit about Max Gilbert or whatever is a loser. Like, he's. He made the kick in overtime. He's going to have more chances that. That is what it is. From looking at him, though, I don't think he wanted much to do with that kick, regardless of where it was from.
A
He was hyperventilating.
C
Yeah. So whatever, he missed it, it's fine. Shouldn't have punted on fourth and two from the 50. Shouldn't have run it three times when they got the turnover in plus territory in the fourth quarter. Team lost the game.
A
That's what it is. Yep. Aaron, do you talk at all to a kicker?
B
Like right now in my life.
A
No, I'm saying, like when you were playing, would you have any conversations with the kicker? Like, come on, man, you got this. Or don't this up.
B
Leave him alone. You leave him alone. That they had cases. I mean, like, it's, it's, it's nerve. Like, as somebody who's in the trenches, like, they, you know, down in, down out, you develop a certain mentality of like, next play, they don't, they don't have that luxury. They only have like one. You know what I'm saying? Like, you could not do the entire game and then the entire team and fan base is looking at you to win the game. Like, that's a pressure I don't know of, you know, like, I can't. So you don't, you don't talk to them. You leave them alone. And from my experience, coaches be adamant about that too. They'd be like, don't talk to leave them alone.
C
Similarly to my thought about the transfer portal quarterbacks for Tennessee, I also think we need to, like, severely overpay the number one kicker every time we need a kicker to make sure we have the best kicker in the country. Because. Yeah, because we get into shootouts, like the Bama game, this game. And like our. When we play top teams, if we're going to win, we've got to score 45 points sometimes.
A
Yeah. And, you know, if, If I, If.
B
I ever, in a, In a hypothetical world, if I was ever like the owner of a team, I would snatch you as gm, Big T. I appreciate that. Yeah. I would snatch you up and, and you'd be my, my play by play.
C
Guy, you know, I'm running double duty.
A
I love that.
B
No, no, I was talking about pft.
C
Oh, got it.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah, he's, you know, he's gonna be like our local. Like, everybody loves him.
C
You know, maybe we should create A high school like LeBron, and we'll. We'll obviously have a football team and we'll. We'll just run it.
B
I saw this report that came out that, like, they're. They're testing.
C
Nobody there can read. Yeah, I love that.
B
What do we know? Why?
C
There was a whole. A couple years ago, when that came out, there was a whole thing about it. I don't remember all the details of it, but, yeah, it was like, nobody at the school can read.
B
That's wild, man. Good intentions. Kind of.
C
Yeah. But. But yeah, I think we need to make sure we get the top kicker in the classes where we need a kicker.
A
How much do you think the top kicker would command in nil?
C
I can ask and get you a better answer if I was to purely speculate. 250 a year.
A
Oh, that's not bad. That's purely a guess for the best kicker in college.
C
Let me ask somebody who would know.
B
Is there, like, a database of.
A
How.
B
Much each player is getting and, like.
C
No. Some get reported, but it's. It's not like NFL contracts where they're.
B
The wild, wild west, man. This is a disaster waiting to happen. Oh, man.
A
Yeah, because you don't. You don't have to report anything.
B
She can get spooky like that, man. Yeah, the. The money could come from anywhere. If. If they're smart, they'll. They'll. They'll. They'll report it. Well, one, for. For various different reasons, you don't want these kids to get a text, you know, issues at that young of age. But two, you want to be able to filter, like, who's paying your players? Like, you want to be able to say, okay, yeah, he's getting this from Toyota. He's getting this from whatever, you know what I'm saying? Not Chuck down the street who got a hundred thousand bet. Hundred bet somewhere else. You know, I mean, like, you don't want that.
C
I actually think now that they're getting money from public universities, it should be the same as employees. Like it should be.
B
You can look it up.
C
Available.
B
Dana, for years, man.
C
You know how much the coaches make because they work for the government.
A
Yep. Unless you're at a private.
C
Right. And then you don't know. For the most part, yep.
A
All right, another voicemail.
C
I've got somebody working on an answer to your question.
A
Okay. I want to know because that's a. That's a good investment.
B
I want my GM to be resourceful. He gets. He gets answers as soon. As soon as he needs them.
A
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B
Hey, Macintosh and Pod, this is Jake from Shawnee, Kansas, and love the show. I haven't been a very long time listener, but I've been going back and listening to all the episodes. Big part of my take, guy. But I've been loving what I'm hearing from Magados. Some very interesting stuff. Anyways, my question is, if you had an AI robot that could do anything you wanted but could only do one thing, so, like to make you breakfast or mow your lawn, could only do one thing. What would you have that robot do? Thanks again. Stay handsome. Stay beautiful. I love you guys. You're my hero. Have a good night, hero.
A
Yeah, love that.
B
I mean, I mean, some, some, some, some people, I'm the hero. Some people, they just wear my shirt, you know, I mean, it's.
A
I've got the Aaron Foster shirt on right now.
B
Spectrum of love, baby. I'll take it off.
A
Yeah.
C
Before we answer this, I have an answer to your last question. And it's, it's a gm.
B
Look at him.
C
It's a great look for Big T. All right. Some places don't want to pay kickers and punters at all, but I've heard of some Australians up to 250 grand.
A
Oh, yeah, that's, that's, that's reasonable.
C
The best kicker in the country for a million dollars over four years. Yeah, you do that every time.
A
Yes. That's going to win you so many.
C
Games, even if you, if you have to pay them double that to ensure that you get the best guy.
A
Yeah.
C
100 worth it.
B
Yeah, because the dude, like I said, it's tough. That's a tough situation. I don't know how he looked like he was 12 years old. He looked like.
C
He does look very young.
B
Yeah. And he just looked shook, man. He looked like his. He was shaking and his helmet was like rattling. It just looks shook, dog. So I hope, I hope he could grow from this, though. I hope he can grow from this.
C
He's. I think he's a good kicker. He's only a sophomore, so. Yeah, he'll figure it out. But back to, back to the other question.
A
Okay. So what would you pay an AI robot to do in terms of a chore?
B
This is simple. I would pay an AI robot to figure out how to stop AI.
A
Okay.
B
That's your job, fam. You see, you get a lab and cook and you figure that out.
A
Interesting. I don't. But when?
D
He might take as long as he can or it.
B
I guess. I don't know.
A
How could you trust him?
B
Yeah.
D
What if he never figures it out?
B
Then you're just paying. I don't trust anybody. You know what I mean? I got this EMP switch on my hip for the moment. He tried something silly.
A
Just carry around a magnet with you at any given time. I can end you, dude. What about just a chore around the house, though?
B
Oh, you. You make me a drink and bring it to me whenever I need it.
A
Love that robot bartender. What about robot joint roller?
B
I don't smoke like that. Not anymore.
A
It'd just be awesome if I did.
B
That would be lit.
A
It'd be awesome to be like, hey, just roll me up a fat one, dude.
B
I think. Who was it? I think it was Waka Flocka. He had a paid blunt roller on staff, and he played like 100 grand or something like that. And he would just roll them blunts. Your job is to roll me blunts.
C
What do you put on your tax return? Personal assistant.
B
Yeah, you're. You're assisting.
C
Yeah, I guess mine would be.
B
Imagine he gets, like, really good, and he just makes, like, these amazing, like, cocktails, dog. That'd be amazing. Y' all come over. I'd be like, yo, make him a. You know, a whiskey sour. I don't even know a good drink, but, like, you know. You know. Oh, remember we was in Tennessee? We had that. They like. They like smoked oak with the whiskey.
C
Old fashioned.
B
Yeah, yeah. He do like that. What? Amazing.
A
I. I would pay a robot to fix my car.
B
He'd be working all the time. That shit always broke.
A
Yeah. I have to keep them plugged in and charge. Mowing the lawn. I don't know. Mowing the lawn's fun.
B
Yeah.
A
Power washing fun. Doing dishes. No laundry. I think laundry is the correct answer.
C
So I was thinking laundry, but then my. My focus shifted to. So my sheets are like a performance type fabric.
A
I love that.
C
So they're very Sheets. Yeah. And they're incredible. I'll send you no free ads, but I'll send you the link. They're unbelievable.
A
Sleep harder.
C
And. And the. The comforter is, like, kind of slick too. So they. Every morning I wake up and it looks like a bomb has gone off in my bed. They're just everywhere. So making the bed sucks. If I could just make my bed perfectly with those sheets. And every night when I get into bed, It's. It's great. 100%. Just do that.
A
Do you make your bed every morning?
C
I am told to, yes.
A
I can't remember the last time I made my bed, like, except for putting sheets on. If I put sheets on the bed, I will make the bed.
B
Yeah. I don't use sheets. What? I don't use sheets.
D
Like a top sheet, you mean?
B
Yeah, they're Portland.
C
I disagree. They're critical.
A
I don't have a top sheet either. But you have the sheet that goes over the mattress and then the comfort.
B
Yeah.
C
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
B
That's some cover in the mattress. But you talking about that. The little thin piece.
C
Correct. You have. You have a top sheet and then a comforter, boilers. No, it's. It. No, no, no.
B
What does it. What does it do?
C
So in the summer, are you sleeping with a comforter?
B
Yeah, my house right now. 67 degrees. That's why I got the Snuggie on.
C
I. I have to have a. It's a feel. It's a feel thing, first of all. But also, like, when it gets really hot, I'll do just a top sheet.
A
You go sheet only sometimes. I had my room at 65 degrees last night bundled up in the comforter.
B
It was so good.
A
Yeah, it was the best.
B
Yeah. Oh, yeah. You rub your little feet together like that. Yeah.
A
Yeah, it was great.
B
Nestle. It's called nestling. You nestle in.
D
I call it cricketing when you do that, when you rub your legs together.
A
Cricket.
D
Yeah, you cricket. Like your legs riding together like a cricket.
A
I would also like to have a robot that made meals for me. Although I do enjoy cooking when I have the time. But, yeah, having.
B
I didn't think about cooking. Yeah. I went straight to drinks. Jesus. Yeah, I think cooking is the real answer. Yeah.
A
Having a robot cook for you every day, that'd be great.
B
And he can make anything. Like, he's.
A
Yeah.
B
Goaded.
D
Are they. Do they have to be in the house? Because I'd say grocery shopping.
A
Grocery shopping.
B
Yeah.
A
That's a good one. Also, actually, you know what? I think I'm just gonna change my answer to a robot that can get stuff for me on a different level of my house. Like, if I'm in the basement and. And my phone charger is even just upstairs in the. In the main area, I'd be like, hey, can you go get my phone charger for me? I don't feel like going up the stairs. Or, hey, hey, Robot. I got ice cream, but it's in the fridge, and that's up this flight of stairs. That's all it does.
D
I like that.
B
The real answer is to have a robot that makes you robots. And each one of those robots, you can assign separate tasks.
C
That's like a more wishes thing.
B
He had no parameters. He said, what you want your robot to do.
C
Also, real quick, Mackenzie, you don't do online pickup.
D
No, I always do it. Like, I don't plan ahead enough so that I'm always like, well, I need it right now. And I don't wait, like, the two hours.
C
I'm exclusively bring it.
A
But I have done it before.
D
Yeah, I have done it before. It's very convenient. When I remember.
C
Then I've got a little wagon that I take it up to my apartment in and.
B
Yeah, you do.
C
Smart. Yep.
D
Ready for another one?
A
Yep.
B
Hey, it's Tim in Cincinnati. Quick thought experiment for you guys. What do you think the world would be like if all the continents were still together, like, when it was Pangea? Just think it would be a fun experiment. Stay handsome, stay gorgeous.
A
Okay, so if I know my Pangea correctly, that means that we would be like, the United States would be neighbors with, like, Morocco and Spain, Africa, or like Northern Africa. Northern Africa, Southern Europe. Is that right?
B
Yeah. Yep.
A
So our food would be awesome.
B
Oh, a quick. That's one of the reasons that they found out Pangea was a thing. They had, like, the same kind of dinosaur fossils found on the west coast of Africa is the same ones they found on in. I think it was south. Yeah. South America. Yeah. That was. That's just fire.
A
Can I tell you something? I don't think I've ever told anybody this before. I discovered Pangea.
B
Okay.
C
When I was, like, just looking at. When I was America and Africa one.
A
Day, I was 4 years old, 5 years old, looking at a map, and I was like, these fit together.
B
Little genius.
A
Yeah. And then they're like, yes, Eric, congratulations. You've discovered Pangea. Thank you, sir.
C
If someone before you had not discovered Pangea and created Breaking Bad, you would be one of the most influe influential people to ever live.
A
Pretty much like, yeah, Isaac Newton.
C
Yeah.
A
How about that? I can't believe nobody ever thought of that before.
B
I'm positive I know they did.
A
Everybody did. Fits perfectly together. Let's see. Other. Other neighboring countries would include South Africa and Argentina. Europe's still kind of out on its own.
B
We're not.
A
Europe would touch, like, Canada. Russia and Canada would have a giant lake in between them, where the Arctic Ocean is. That'd be a sick lake, though. And let's see. Australia.
B
Damn. I wonder what the immigration laws will be then.
A
If you could just walk everywhere.
B
Yeah.
A
Pangea. Pangea kind of rocks, but that. So when Pangee was around, did that mean that there was like one side of the. Of the globe that just had nothing on it? Just water?
B
I would assume so.
A
It just had a mega ocean.
B
Did you know that the. The world's ocean water is older than our solar system?
A
But it's part of our solar system.
B
Do you know how we have water here?
A
No.
B
Oh, well, allow me.
A
Okay, enlighten me.
B
It came from meteors. Ice meteors. The world's ocean water. That's where it is believed to have come from.
A
Okay, so the water wasn't here. It was just rock until the meteors crashed into it.
C
Ice.
B
Yeah.
A
That's trippy.
B
Yeah. So like the. The water that's on the Earth is older than the solar system. Whoa. Allegedly. Allegedly.
A
Is that just a guess though?
B
It's an educated guess.
C
I'm seeing that most ocean water likely came from volcanic outgassing during the Earth. Earth's early history.
A
Let's debate.
C
It does say some from asteroids and comments.
B
Yeah, well, I could have got that.
C
Wrong, but that feels like that couldn't be the primary source. It'd have to be so many.
B
That's a lot of water. I don't know.
C
I just heard that one time and then some. Water may have formed through chemical reactions between hydrogen and oxygen containing minerals. Earth's crust and mantle.
B
Yeah, so some. Which is still wild to think about. The water here outdates the entire here.
A
What about all the rocks? Are those from meteors too?
B
I don't know. I'm not a geologist. I don't know everything about that. I just. I have my tidbits that I understand.
A
All right. Anything else for today is nano dosing and we got any takes they want to get off? Okay, Big T?
C
No, I don't think so.
A
Has anything happened in the critical thinking group chat since?
C
There actually has been a message sent since we've been talking. They talked about on the yak also. Care to share the message that was sent? Sent is a brief recap. They haven't recovered the bullet. They haven't presented any video or photographic evidence of the alleged shooter with the gun. The alleged shooter did not confess to law enforcement. They haven't presented any pictures or videos of the alleged shooter changing his clothes on the roof, which is contradicted by the photos that have been released, so on and so forth. That is from.
B
Oh, is there. Is there. Is there a claim that that isn't the guy?
C
I. Maybe. I don't know.
A
They're just asking questions.
B
Just asking questions.
C
We might end up seeing all of this eventually, and I hope we do. But so far, the quote evidence that's actually been presented is hardly convincing.
B
The quote evidence.
A
Do they know that they are not currently seated on the jury that is deliberating this case? So the evidence. So the evidence that's been produced doesn't. They're not necessarily entitled to it.
C
Yeah, I. This is just critical thinking. So.
A
Okay, is it. Is it critical thinking or is it looking at posts online?
C
Buddy, I don't know. I don't want to be in this.
A
Okay. All right.
C
I thought about leaving immediately, but I was like, that's going to look harsh. So I'm just letting them send. Maybe once. Once this goes out, they'll kick me out. I don't know.
A
This is. You know, that's.
B
It's not. It's not. It's not bad, though. You know, it's like guys who are, like, obviously frustrated about an event and they're like. It's like a trust thing. You know what? I feel like we can figure this thing out together or at least vent together our frustration about the investigation.
C
Believe me, I do believe there are plenty of things in this world for which you should question some official narratives. I just. Maybe we have a solution in search of a problem.
A
Yeah, I think maybe we. There's a lot of question narratives, which I think is healthy. But you should probably wait for a little bit to question the narratives until after the narrative is actually put out there.
C
Right.
A
Right now, we don't even have a narrative.
C
I love Dante, though.
A
Yeah. I mean, it is healthy brain.
C
Other than when he kicked me out for something that was so clearly not me, it was laughable. But I do like Dante.
A
Very funny that the critical thinking group chat did not get to the bottom of that one.
C
Right.
A
Also, I just. I love the group that we have in there. Dante, White Sox Dave, Nikki smokes. Nikki smokes.
C
Yeah.
A
These guys, these are tough hitters. Tough to pull the wool over their eyes. Gotta get. Get up pretty in the. Pretty early in the morning to fool White Sox Dave.
B
Yeah, you should. You should just like, play contrarian in there, dog, and just go straight. Full state problem.
C
It's just not. Also, I will say this. There are group chats and alliances within barstool sports that you would never know.
A
Yeah.
C
Because the people in them, actually.
B
It.
C
Would never get out.
A
They keep it on the hush.
C
Yeah. I'll leave it at that.
A
Oh, you got to give me a hint.
C
I don't. That's precisely why you don't know.
A
You have to give me a hint.
C
There are alliances within these walls that people would never guess.
B
I've never been approached by any bar ever to be a part of an alliance.
C
I'm sure if you were here every day, you would.
D
Surviving.
B
No, Even then. True. Nobody want to click over there either.
A
Kirk Minahan and Kelly Ken.
C
I can't. I can't speak to that. I have no idea.
A
It's my guess.
D
Madeline and smokes, you'd never know.
B
I have a secret suspicion that they are in cahoots. Yeah.
D
Me and smokes.
A
Is there cahoots?
D
No.
C
One kahoot.
A
By the way, is one side cahooting? No, I think Nikki smokes might be cahooting.
D
He might think he's.
A
Yeah, he thinks. I don't think there's cahoots. I think there is a cahoot, and I think Nikki smokes because he's always like, mad dog me. We respect each other, but we hate each other.
D
He respects. I think he respects how much I hate him.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, he.
A
He'll reach out and you will not accept the reach outs.
D
Yes. Actually, there was one kahoot last week. Indirect kahoot. He asked. He asked Anika to ask me a question about how I run social media pages.
A
That's what I'm saying. There's a kahoot.
D
There was one. An indirect kahoot.
A
Not reciprocated.
D
I cahooted to Annika.
A
Oh, so you are in cahoots.
D
No, I didn't cahoot with him. I just said this is how I run macro.
A
I love that, though. Reaching out to an intermediary like it's the cold war. You're like, hey, Germany, could you pass this along, please?
D
The girls are in alliance, right?
A
Yeah. You guys know each other?
D
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
D
You guys are girls. Are you guys synced up?
A
Big T, give me one hint about. About.
C
Can't do it. But there are. There are group chats here that would shock you.
A
Jack, Mack and Gia.
C
I don't know anything about that.
B
No.
A
See, Big T, he's. That's the kind of guy that would not leak information about the critical thinking group chat.
C
Well, I don't care enough about the critical thinking group chat, but if it was a group chat that I did care about. Yeah. Also I would not.
A
So can you drop something in there.
C
For me in the critical thinking.
A
Yeah.
C
What? Depends. What do you want?
A
A link to a. An article about how Finland does not exist.
C
Can you provide.
A
Yes, I can. I can provide you with.
B
You don't have it.
A
I want to see where they go with this, so tune back in to Macro Dosing on Thursday to find out what happens. I'm gonna.
C
Actually, I haven't committed to doing that.
B
But you should totally just troll the group, bro.
C
I'll look into it. I don't want to. Listen, if. If y' all wanna have the critical thinking group chat, by all means, go for it. I. I just don't want to be in it right now.
B
I'm gonna start a barstool. Critical thinking.
C
Now that could be funny.
B
A critical. Critical thinking.
C
Yeah. Assistant to the regional manager.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's about to be lit. Our whole. Our whole vibe is just to be critical of the group. That's critical.
C
Who are you thinking about putting in that? Nick, obviously.
B
Nick's definitely in there. I gotta go. Pft.
A
Thank you.
B
Yeah, I gotta put.
C
Can.
B
Spider.
C
Can I remove myself from the critical thinking group chat and align myself with the critical. Critical thinking chat?
B
No, brother. You're the mole. We need you in there. We need ground.
C
I see.
B
On the ground.
A
Oh, I do have. I got one last thing I want to talk about with Mad Dog McKenzie.
D
Oh.
A
Do you guys know what I'm going to ask?
D
No, I don't think so. Wait. Oh, yes, I do.
A
Is she or isn't she?
D
No, I don't think so.
A
What's up with the modesty wall?
D
I don't know. You're asking if Taylor Swift, for those that are out of the loop, if Taylor Swift is pregnant because she. She was hidden behind a wall yesterday.
C
I have a question about that.
A
I don't think she is, for the record, because she's not. She's not married.
D
Well, one, yeah, she's a virgin because she's not married. And two, we've seen her recently, like, in public. It's not like. I don't think you would be. All of a sudden, she pops out nine months pregnant.
C
If that was actually her, why did they not show her, like, in her box or whatever?
D
I don't know. I. I will say it was odd that we didn't see anything from her yesterday. And then also, like, yeah, they covered it up with, like, a. I don't even know what that was. Just some.
B
Who is this? What is this?
D
Taylor Swift went to Travis Kelsey's game yesterday, but she usually does the same kind of walk to her suite that you see every week, and you kind of see her outfit or whatever. And yesterday she walked, but they covered her with a board so you couldn't see her. Like, you knew it was her, but, like, you couldn't see who it was or you couldn't see her.
A
Are we sure that the board wasn't for, like, Jackson Mahomes?
D
Like, you're saying it was Jackson Mahomes, not Taylor Swift?
A
How do we know it's Taylor?
D
I don't know. I'm. I. I'm assuming. I think. Yeah, I just assuming. I think people saw. I wasn't totally logged in for that yesterday. I believe people saw, like, her security, though. And people, like, know her security guards are.
B
I wasn't, like, staring at the game like that. I had it on the background, some people over. But I didn't see Taylor Swift.
A
Did they show her a lot?
B
I didn't know.
D
They didn't show her at all, I don't think. Think. Because I would have. No offense. I would have seen.
B
I would have seen a little tf, huh? A little Taylor fatigue.
D
I don't know. I don't know what it was. I don't. Some people said on my Twitter that maybe kind of with the whole Charlie Kirk thing, it was like, a safety precaution. I don't know. I don't know if that even, like, crosses her mind, but I think she.
A
Definitely has some weirdos out there.
D
Yeah. And I think that that's definitely a concern for her. So maybe she wanted to just really stay super precautious yesterday, which. I'm fine. Like, do whatever you need to do. I don't think it's because she's pregnant, though. I do not think that's why. I think we've seen her enough in very, very recent timelines that you don't just go from, like, zero to hero with a pregnancy bump. So I don't think so, but I don't know. I think. I think the Charlie Kirk thing maybe made her security a little more heightened. Who's to say? I don't know.
A
I think that's probably a reasonable guess because she's been politically outspoken in the past. And.
D
Yeah, I think that's also a big part of it, is that she has spoken up before. And last summer, there was a. Like, a threat at one of her concerts that was shut down. So she's been around dangerous situations before. I don't think she wants to put herself into them if she doesn't have to. That's what I would assume, but I don't know. I don't think it's a pregnancy thing, though, is my take.
A
All right. No kill a Trav junior on the way?
D
No. I mean, she's. They're not married yet. I. I don't think there's been any canoodling.
A
No canoodling? No cahoots.
D
They can cahoot, but they. I don't think. I mean, find out. Taylor, she's not.
B
She's not.
A
She's not putting out.
D
Not before marriage.
A
Agreed. All right, we will see you guys on Thursday for macrodosing. Love, you guys.
B
Don't.
Macrodosing: Donald Trump Is Not Happy With NFL Kickoff Rules | Sept 16, 2025
Overview
In this episode of Macrodosing, hosts PFT Commenter and Arian Foster, along with Mad Dog McKenzie and Big T, dive deep into a range of topics—from recent tragic events surrounding the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the resulting volatile online discourse, to Donald Trump's public criticism of the NFL's new kickoff rules. The crew also covers personal stories, college football, award show hot takes, and general musings on American culture and sports.
Boxing: The hosts briefly praise a recent Crawford-Canelo fight, citing it as a "masterclass" with "no judge controversy," and joke about a hypothetical Mayweather-Tyson match (“gonna be the worst fight ever televised”). [77:46–79:42]
Critical Thinking Chat, Alliances, and Group Chats: The team jokes about secret alliances within Barstool, the drama and futility of “mole hunting,” and Big T steadfastly refusing to leak confidential group chat info. [109:00–111:49]
Taylor Swift Pregnancy Theories: Mad Dog squashes “pregnancy” rumors about Taylor Swift being shielded by security at a Chiefs game, calling it a security precaution after the Kirk shooting rather than a bump cover-up. [113:17–116:39]
Pangea Thought Experiment: The team imagines an alternative world if the continents were still together—a discussion that morphs into a mini-geology lesson (PFT quips he “discovered Pangea” as a kid). [101:46–105:03]
This episode of Macrodosing is quintessentially broad-ranging, mixing irreverence and genuine insight. From deep dives into the state of American Internet-fueled division, through sports rule changes and their symbolism, to rueful personal stories and group chat intrigue, the team blends sharp cultural critique with laughs, sports nerdery, and group dynamic banter. The conversation, always honest and often self-deprecating, leaves listeners informed, amused, and occasionally challenged about the state of modern sports, society, and media.