Drafting The Best Thanksgiving Plate | Nov 25, 2025

Summary

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Macrodosing: Drafting The Best Thanksgiving Plate

Episode Date: November 25, 2025
Hosts: PFT Commenter, Arian Foster (on break), Big T, Uncle Chaps, Mad Dog, McKenzie
Episode Theme: Thanksgiving food draft, college football coaching drama, NFL and sports talk, plus a wild array of hypotheticals and listener calls.

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Episode Overview

This episode of Macrodosing centers around the ultimate Thanksgiving plate draft, blending passionate food takes with sports banter, college football coach conspiracies, NFL quarterback debates, and the sort of offbeat hypotheticals that keep fans coming back. With Arian Foster out, the rest of the crew tackles turkey, side dishes, car buying, the ethics of government service, and even the destruction potential of 20 quadrillion ants. The tone is lively, unfiltered, and brimming with signature Macrodosing humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thanksgiving Plate Draft

[37:29-54:55]

• Each host drafts the ideal Thanksgiving plate in a snake-style draft, debating what qualifies as a must-have dish and revealing unexpected favorites.
• Key picks:
  • Turkey, mashed potatoes, stuffing (or dressing), rolls, mac and cheese, scalloped potatoes, honey baked ham, sweet potato casserole, prosciutto-wrapped asparagus, and dessert staples like pumpkin pie and pecan pie.
• Debate erupts over green bean casserole ("Very polarizing," Big Cat, 46:41), the merits of gravy as a standalone pick, and the influence of regional food traditions.

Notable Quotes:

• Big Cat: "If you fry a turkey or if you know how to prepare it, turkey can be a very delicious food and I'm very excited about it." [31:02]
• Big T: "Scalloped potatoes are... I feel like scalloped potatoes don't get eaten nearly enough." [40:57]
• Chaps: "I think with beef, like potatoes, mashed potatoes and beef is better than mashed potatoes and turkey together." [40:01]

Foodie Knowledge Bombs:

• Big T shares a smoked turkey recipe using mustard as a binding agent, apple and cranberry juice for steam, and Texas live oak for flavor. [35:19-36:57]
• Discussion about the improved taste of Brussels sprouts—thanks to modern genetic modifications to remove bitterness. [44:05]
• Chaps proposes "Thanksgiving arancini": post-meal leftovers mashed, balled, and fried. "Who's going to stop us?" [54:52]

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2. College Football Coaching Carousel & Booster Influence

[03:31-17:54]

• Speculation over Lane Kiffin's future at Ole Miss: “I've changed my mind. I think he’s going to leave now.” (Big Cat, 05:38)
• Tracking planes, dinner meetings, and message board rumors become the "true crime" of SEC fandom.
• The power and absurdity of college football boosters, and the degree to which large donors (even the hosts) could shape a program:
  • Chaps: “You're paying to be an actual decision [maker].” [12:06]
  • Big Cat: “I would hurt the program if I was like, you know who I really like is this guy coming out of Kennesaw State..." [12:46]
• Mad Dog and Big Cat riff on NIL money and adding a player who can drop kick: “Bring back the drop kick.” [14:30]

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3. NFL Chatter: Jaguars, Quarterbacks, and Browns' QB Drama

[15:12-26:41]

• Big T’s emotional rollercoaster as a Jaguars fan: “There has been years past...but this year...it's like the ultimate Dr. Jekyll Mystery Hyde.” [15:19]
• The "let it rip" Trevor Lawrence debate—does aggressive play lead to mistakes, or does it unlock his potential?
• Jaguars’ wild 7-4 record, "winning games in spite of [Trevor] right now," and schedule analysis—plenty of skepticism and exasperation.
• Browns’ rookie QB Shador Sanders earns praise for a rare debut win, with Mad Dog insisting, “Let the guy run.” [21:13] Bitter QB controversies ensue.

Notable Quote:

• Mad Dog: “The Browns love to beat one really good team a year. The Raiders are a bad team. No offense to the Raiders. So are we...” [23:40]

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4. Thanksgiving Food Deep Dive

[31:01-37:29]

• Big Cat and Big T expound on turkey prep methods, the dangers of deep frying (with a shoutout to Alton Brown’s “bird bomb” experiment), and the superiority of smoked vs fried.
• Chaps recounts family turkey fry misadventures and regional approaches to Thanksgiving stews and seafood boils.

Technical Tips:

• Test how much oil you need for the turkey BEFORE frying.
• Always fully defrost the turkey to avoid dangerous “oil bombs.”
• Smoked turkey technique: slather outside in mustard as a binder, use fruit woods for flavor, steam with apple/cranberry juice on the side.

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5. Trump Wants a New 'Rush Hour' Movie

[26:43-29:44]

• Chaps breaks the news that ex-President Trump is lobbying to revive the "Rush Hour" franchise:
  • "Trump...passionate, for instance, about the 1988 Jean Claude Van Damme sports flick Bloodsport...But the movie he wants is a new Rush Hour." [27:09]
• Lively debate about Chris Tucker’s reputation, his Epstein connection, and celebrity culture at large.

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6. Bizarre Hypotheticals and Listener Calls

[88:02-100:01 and 113:16-118:14]

• "20 quadrillion ants": Could they overthrow the U.S. government?
  • Serious (and hilarious) consideration of ant warfare, infrastructure sabotage, and the physical impossibility of stopping a mile-wide pyramid of ants.
• Listener asks: Would you rather only watch your favorite team, or all teams but not yours?
  • All choose their favorite team (“I don't give a shit about anybody else. All Tennessee.” — Chaps, 114:21), with caveats for leagues like the MLB where volume of games matters.
• Sports knowledge humility: Big T urges new fans to just ask questions, not fake expertise.

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7. Car Buying, Compulsory National Service & Modern Tech

[66:55-71:43] [101:02-108:46]

• Big Cat revels in haggling at dealerships, while Big T argues COVID-era online buying was the peak experience.
• Modern cars’ electronic/software issues lead to lengthy rants about car maintenance, with nostalgia for when “carbonators” (carburetors) solved everything.
• The hosts discuss the merits of mandatory national service for youth, inspired by a congressional guest’s proposal.
  • Chaps: “I think that it builds responsibility. It gives you a job that you're not responsible to your parents for...” [101:40]
  • Big Cat acknowledges benefits but foresees a hard sell in today’s economic climate.

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8. Tech Weirdness: Country of Origin on Twitter, Solar Geoengineering

[80:32-85:40], [74:07-76:34]

• Musk’s Twitter reveals account origin locations, exposing many political accounts as foreign—“Bangladesh is...getting after it.” [81:40]
• Speculation over why Twitter would torpedo certain political fan accounts.
• Startup's plan to "blot out the sun" by spraying reflective particles leads to a resounding group "Disavow this idea." [75:45]

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• “If you fry a turkey...turkey can be a very delicious food and I'm very excited about it.” — Big Cat [31:02]
• “You're paying to be an actual decision maker.” — Chaps on college football boosters [12:06]
• “Bring back the drop kick.” — Big Cat [14:30]
• “There has been years past...but this year...it's like the ultimate Dr. Jekyll Mystery Hyde.” — Big T on the Jaguars [15:19]
• “It is a fun thing. Nobody got hurt.” — Big Cat and Mad Dog on the Browns’ win [24:09]
• “This is our version of true crime.” — Big Cat on college football coaching searches [07:26]
• “You can do it on Etsy.” — Big Cat, dryly, on filtering for U.S.-based Twitter accounts [85:46]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Thanksgiving Plate Draft: 37:29–54:55
• Turkey/Food Prep Deep Dive: 31:01–37:29
• College Football Coach Drama: 03:31–17:54
• NFL/Eagles/Jags Discussion: 15:12–26:41
• Trump Wants New Rush Hour Movie: 26:43–29:44
• Ant Invasion Hypothetical: 89:16–98:14
• Car Buying: 66:55–71:43
• Compulsory National Service Discussion: 101:02–108:46
• Tech Topics (Twitter Origins): 80:32–85:40
• "Blotting out the Sun" Startup: 74:07–76:34
• Listener: Team or League Only Watching: 113:16–118:14

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Final Thoughts

This Macrodosing episode is a true Thanksgiving feast—loaded with sports obsession, foodie hot takes, and trademark wild speculation. The hosts dissect everything from SEC coaching mystique to proper turkey technique, and from ant-powered coups to the psychodrama of buying a new car in tech-riddled 2025. It's irreverent, hilarious, and—perfectly for Thanksgiving week—a little bit of everything.

Closing Words from Big Cat:
"I hope everybody has a happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy your turkey. Enjoy everything about it. Love you guys." [118:15]

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Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[Mad Dog]

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[Chaps]

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[Big Cat]

They're ants, but they're, they're working together. Like whatever instinct is in them that that tells them we are enemy. Attack enemy.

[Chaps]

And when he says overthrow the US Government, you could cause a significant amount of damage. I don't know what you're installing once.

[Big Cat]

You I think they're probably enacting massive subsidies for high fructose corn syrup.

[Chaps]

I think the better question is how many people could 20 quadrillion ants kill?

[Big Cat]

Welcome back to Nano Dosing. It is Tuesday. It's November 25th, and today's episode is brought to you by game time. College football is in full swing. You got tailgates, cheering crowds, the excitement of being in the stands before kickoff. All that's going down right now. Season's winding down. You want to make it out to a game. And if you've ever found yourself at a tailgate decided that you want tickets at the last minute, that's where game time comes in. The app gives the advantage back to the fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in just a few taps. It's very easy to use. The game time guarantee means you can Trust you'll get 100% authentic tickets on time at the best price. And the fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. Big T's got a game up right now for college football this weekend. What game is that?

[Chaps]

Big T. I pulled up the egg bowl on Friday afternoon. Ole Miss potentially needing to win to get into the playoff. If Maybe their coach leaves and then the committee tries to keep them out. Even at 10 and 2,$99.1 of the zone deals. You can get into the game in Starkville for Ole Miss, Mississippi State with massive implications.

[Big Cat]

Massive implications. Who do you like in that game?

[Chaps]

I mean, gun to your head. You take Ole Miss. But I think depends what level of distraction is in that locker room.

[Big Cat]

I'd say a significant level of distraction, potentially.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Unless he makes a big announcement, I'm not fucking leaving.

[Chaps]

I don't think anyone knows what he's doing.

[Big Cat]

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[Chaps]

Didn't know we were doing a show today.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's getting a Thanksgiving break today. It's okay. Family comes first. He's thinking about getting a dog. It's taking up a lot of his emotional energy right now, and Chaps has been guiding him through the process. And it's a very cute dog, and I'm. I'm excited for Aryan. So thank you for pointing him in the right direction, Chaps.

[Big T]

Yeah, I was just glad he didn't.

[Big Cat]

Get a Belgian Malinois that I. I tried in the most polite way to say that. That would be a disaster of an.

[Big T]

Idea for a guy that's on the record as not being a huge dog guy. There is no more dog than Belgian Malinois. It is like the dog.

[Big Cat]

It is the most dog. Yeah. You have to be. Have a what a lot of land. Be super active, hands on as a trainer. I mean, probably not your first dog.

[Big T]

No. Like everything. Even dog handlers, there would be Malinois that would be like, no, you can't. You're not doing well enough to have that dog. Yeah, like, they. Everything that you want in a dog, they are that dog. But everything that's bad about being a dog owner is that dog, too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Might be a little too much dog for you, buddy. Yeah, let's dial it back. But, yeah, we're. We're zoned in on a Rhodesian Ridgeback and it's. It's adorable. Big T, we talked about it a second ago. Delane Kiffin stuff. I am. I am enthralled with his journey that he's on right now, because he seems like he's not just making up his mind about where he wants to coach next season, but also he's with everybody out there and all their techniques of tracking, coaching searches, like tracking planes. He's. He's taking off from. From Oxford, and he's flying a plane that's angled towards Baton Rouge, but then he veers it off towards Gainesville, then he. Towards bat.

[Chaps]

Well, you saw what that plane was, right?

[Big Cat]

What plane was that?

[Chaps]

No, that wasn't Lane. It was someone picking up a dog.

[Big Cat]

Okay. No, I did not see that.

[Chaps]

It was. I forget the exact route, but it. It hit all three cities, which I still don't understand how you would need to go to three cities to get a dog. It seems like you'd only need two. Yeah, but it was, I think, going from Oxford to Gainesville, then it went to Baton Rouge and then back to Oxfordshire, but it was someone getting a dog. Okay, I forget all the details. I'll try to find it for you.

[Big Cat]

But, yeah, Lane's having fun with it. He's. He's messing with everybody. Who knows what he's going to end up doing. I've changed my mind. I think he's going to leave now. I didn't think he was going to leave last week.

[Chaps]

Yeah, I think so, too.

[Big Cat]

Smoke?

[Chaps]

Well, the Ole Miss athletic department announced that there would be an announcement after the Egg bowl, which seems like if he was staying, you could just make that announcement then. But I. He may. He might not still know. I have no idea. He has three virtually identical offers on the table. It sounds like 13, 14 million dollars a year with a significant number committed to the roster.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

So it's just a matter of. Now, Florida, no state income tax. If that plays into your decision.

[Big Cat]

That is true. Then the AD at Ole Miss said that they've had several pointed conversations, which seems like a statement that the athletic department would put out if it was more likely that he was not going to return. Like, if they had.

[Chaps]

Right.

[Big Cat]

If they had pointed, tough conversations, and Lane was like, I'm coming back. I think your statement is just like, we've been in constant communication with Lane Kiffin.

[Chaps]

Or he's coming back.

[Big Cat]

Or he's coming back. Yeah. I don't think that you would go out of your way to. To pound your chest and say, like, hey, I've kind of been a dickhead to him, too, and I'm trying to get down to brass tacks. I don't think that you'd feel the need to clarify that.

[Chaps]

And I've been where Florida's at right now. They're a. They're a downtrodden football program right now. LSU is. Probably has more upward mobility in the immediate future. But, you know, you get used to, like, Tennessee has been very successful over the last several years, for which I'm extremely grateful to Josh Hyple. But when you see a coach in search like this, and you see the message boards and the flight tracking and the Zillow tracking, it just. It gets something going in you that you're like, man, I give me a defensive coordinator search or something. You know, Give me something. I don't want hypo to leave.

[Big Cat]

But this is. This is our version of true crime.

[Chaps]

Yeah. It's so much fun.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

I'll never forget the groomers of 2017, the ever. The 2020 coaching search where we thought James Franklin was maybe meeting somebody at the Teterboro Airport. So I took the train out there and staked out that plane. Like, it's just the SEC coaching search. Why we do it. Y.

[Big Cat]

It's. The groomers were so funny because they had pictures of him, like, in a.

[Chaps]

Hooters Calhouns on the river.

[Big Cat]

I thought it was a Hooters.

[Chaps]

I believe it was Calhoun. That was a big thing. Was that I. Someone spotted Gruden at Calhoun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That was close.

[Chaps]

I asked him about it the first time I met him. He still didn't give me a direct answer.

[Big Cat]

I think. I think it was about to happen. But, yeah, it's been. It's been crazy with Lane, and who knows? I. My prediction is he goes to lsu. That's. That's what I think.

[Chaps]

I think that is the most likely as well.

[Big Cat]

Now, the real wild card is Penn State, because Penn State is not going to Penn State. No, not with Lane.

[Chaps]

I'm saying in the coaching search, I've heard they're.

[Big Cat]

They're getting desperate, so they apparently were talking with Elko.

[Chaps]

I've heard that.

[Big Cat]

Which is crazy. Like, Elko is having an incredible season right now at Texas A M. He's.

[Chaps]

A Pennsylvania guy, right?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But, I mean, he's. He's new there. He's dominating. He's been a great coach. They love him. I'm assuming they paid him a shitload of money.

[Chaps]

It's from New Jersey.

[Big Cat]

Why. Why would he leave after such a short amount of time?

[Chaps]

Easier to get to the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. But still, that's kind of crazy. Like, that would be a big. That'd be a massive step back for A M if they lose their new coach who's getting you to the playoffs.

[Chaps]

Yeah, but he buy. They kept him.

[Big Cat]

They kept him. And then there's been a lot of rumor, a lot of rumors going on about DeBoer. He told me I was insane for Deborah to Penn State. I said I wasn't saying it's going to happen, but I could see why.

[Chaps]

He'S not going to Penn State. But if they lose this week, I think he might be looking for a different job somewhere else.

[Big Cat]

Oh, where?

[Chaps]

I don't know. I think he might seek one out.

[Big Cat]

That sounded pointed to me.

[Chaps]

It's not. There is one I have in mind, but I think he will seek employment elsewhere of his own volition if they lose this.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right.

[Chaps]

So now because that, that, that play is going to turn on him.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Chaps]

If they lose to Auburn, go nine and three for a second straight year, it's. They're going to be mad.

[Big Cat]

Yep. And then it's looking more and more like Bob Chesney is on the short list at Penn State. Track to jet that went from. From Happy Valley to Shenandoah Regional Airport last week.

[Chaps]

How many planes are you tracking these days?

[Big T]

I'm not.

[Big Cat]

I've got. I've got four guys that track planes for me.

[Chaps]

Oh, wow.

[Big Cat]

That provide updates for me.

[Chaps]

Yeah, just like the. The. Your third graders.

[Big Cat]

No, I've got four guys that, that track planes for me.

[Big T]

Zach. Pug.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I actually should teach Zach how to track planes. But no, there was a flight that left from Happy Valley, went to the airport that's right next to jmu Shenandoah Regional, which is a very small airport and it was a private jet and it was there. Landed at 5, left at 9. So my guess is they had a dinner meeting, which is, I believe, their second face to face meeting. So I'm guessing. I'm guessing he's on the short list if not penciled in as the guy there, which is simultaneously really shitty. But also I guess I could talk myself into it being potentially a good thing.

[Chaps]

I mean, y' all can just find another one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's the thing. Like if Chesney takes the Penn State job, Signetti took the Indiana job and he's in contingent for national title. I feel like that cements JMU as being the best school that you want to coach at if you want to take that next step and get paid. Right?

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like any up and coming coach Would should want the JMU job.

[Chaps]

I don't know who the top FCS guy is right now, but yeah, the.

[Big Cat]

Problem is we just got to keep. You got to keep, like, making the right hires and reloading. It's tough. It's tough. They're asking me for money now, and I'm. Because you guys asked me who the Larry Ellison was of jmu. We don't really have that many wealthy donors, so I would just wish that Jamie was easier to get to.

[Chaps]

But don't you want it? Like, there's an amount of money that I assuming as well within your range of affordability that you could like, help make decisions. Like, you could have input.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's what I don't understand though, about college boosters is like, you pay money to be like a cosplay. Partial minority, minority. Minority owner.

[Chaps]

No, no. See, that's where you're misunderstanding. You're paying to be an actual decision eft bone hick.

[Big Cat]

I. Here's the thing, though. I should not make these decisions.

[Chaps]

That's why college football is so great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think. No, but I feel like I'm self aware enough to know that, like, I should not be making the choices.

[Big T]

Yeah, but you're in a better position, you pay way more attention to football than a vast majority of these people who are making these kind of decisions.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but I'm still a idiot. Like, I don't. Yeah, I don't know. At the end of the day, I. I would. I would hurt the program if I was like, you know who I really like is this guy coming out of Kennesaw State, the defensive coordinator at Kennesaw State. We should hire him.

[Chaps]

Coach is actually a good coach.

[Big T]

Jamarcus Russell went number one. I don't think there's a single person in the world that knows shit about football. Like, it just kind of happenstance.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's probably true. I. I just know that I would screw it up. So I'd be paying money to not own a team, to not really get that much in return.

[Chaps]

Well, you can choose to not give.

[Big Cat]

Your input, and then I become. I become accountable.

[Chaps]

But then you're kind of a cuck. If you're just giving them money, you're like, I don't need anything.

[Big T]

You should be the Jerry Jones of jmu.

[Big Cat]

Okay, here's what I would like.

[Big T]

General manager, like Andrew Luck.

[Big Cat]

What if I gave the money and then if the people that were in charge of making the choices screwed things up, then I could pick up a phone, be like, you Got to fire this guy.

[Chaps]

That's. That happens all the time.

[Big Cat]

And then they're like, okay, sir, who, who do you think should be our next head coach? I'll be like, listen, that's. That's not my job.

[Chaps]

That's how most college football programs are run.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It just doesn't seem like that attractive to me to pay a bunch of money to not really have anything except for influence.

[Chaps]

Because here's how it works. Then they're like, okay, well who are we hiring? And they say they set their sides. Let's say Jerry Mack, the head coach at Kennesaw State, who is actually a good football coach. And you're like, you know, I'm not really feeling Jerry Mack. And if you want the money, you're going to need to hire him. You're only getting that money from me if you hire xyz.

[Big Cat]

Big T. Yeah, Big T. Yeah.

[Chaps]

You want Big T in there? And so that's the only way they get your. Your money.

[Big Cat]

Then I start installing my puppets.

[Big T]

Ye.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then they do. They run plays and they design the offense around what I tell them to do.

[Chaps]

This is actually how some of this.

[Big Cat]

Works, is how a lot of it works.

[Chaps]

Yes, yes.

[Big Cat]

This is how a lot of college football works right now.

[Chaps]

Which is why it's awesome.

[Big T]

You should give nil money for somebody that knows how to do a drop kick.

[Big Cat]

I like that. I like that. Bring back the drop kick.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, you can do it in. In the course of live play. Like.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You could snap it to the quarterback and he could just drop kick it.

[Big T]

If you want it.

[Big Cat]

People's heads would explode if they would.

[Chaps]

Have you watched Tennessee's ambidextrous punter?

[Big Cat]

I have not.

[Chaps]

You should check him out this week.

[Big Cat]

Why? Why is that necessary to have.

[Chaps]

So he can roll out either way and do like a rugby kick.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. If you're a right footed punter, you probably couldn't roll out to your left and punt.

[Chaps]

Right?

[Big Cat]

Okay. You know, check my. Is he from Australia?

[Chaps]

He is, yeah. I think he's like my age.

[Big Cat]

I love that. I love that Australian punters are such a. Such a big thing in college football. Chaps, congratulations on your Jaguars.

[Big T]

Oh, God.

[Big Cat]

Are they good? No, they're seven and four. Right.

[Big T]

It doesn't matter like that.

[Chaps]

They are.

[Big T]

So I honestly, I was thinking about it last night. There has been years past where, I mean, we. 1 in 15, 2 and 14. That didn't drive me as batty as this year because it's like the ultimate Dr. Jekyll mystery. Hyde. Like for Trevor Lawrence, they're winning games in spite of him right now, which I never would have thought would happen. I mean, the wide receiver core is like, everybody's injured across the board. So like getting anyone's is crazy that they're doing it right now. I didn't enjoy a single second of the entire game yesterday. And they won in overtime.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Even when they won in overtime, I was like, that should have been pass interference on the one.

[Chaps]

Like.

[Big T]

Yeah, every single moment of that game is miserable.

[Big Cat]

So is there anything to be said for, for Trevor letting it rip?

[Big T]

That part of his presser after made me even more mad because his interceptions aren't letting him rip. His interception was. I made the wrong read on a six yard slant route that got picked off by the linebacker. That's not exactly letting it rip.

[Big Cat]

He's letting it rip though. But I would say it was if.

[Big T]

It was a deep like post and he's going for it and double coverage and trying to put in there and that gets picked totally different than. I can't make this read and this throw.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I think that the, the let it rip stuff, I, I slightly believe in it because I think that Trevor plays better when he doesn't think.

[Big T]

Yes. The. I think the biggest mistake that I think the Jags are making with him right now is that they're getting to the line with 11 seconds left on the play clock and then he's trying to make his reads quickly and, and I don't think he does that well. I wish that they would go to way more no huddle like the ends of the games, like the end of the 2 quarter, 4 minute drill. He plays so much better than he does whenever they go to the huddle. Slow play, clock coming in. I wish they would go to a hurry up more with him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Because Trevor is, he's very athletic. But you forget that he's very athletic sometimes because when he thinks too much, he kind of gets into robot mode.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

And he becomes very mechanical and labored and awkward and clunky. But when he's, when he's like panicked, for example, sometimes you'll see Trevor do incredible when he's panicked because he's not thinking about anything. He's just like, oh my God, I gotta, I gotta get rid of the ball. I gotta scramble for a first down. I gotta dive. That's when I think Trevor's at his best. And I've seen a little bit like, you know, some of, some of that stuff out of him the last couple weeks. I agree. I don't think that the Jaguars are very good, but the record is.

[Big T]

Yeah, you're seven and four.

[Big Cat]

You're seven four. That's a. That's a. It's a great number to. To see next to your team name.

[Big T]

And realistically, they should be better than that because they obviously blew that game in Houston. Yep.

[Big Cat]

And you control your own destiny.

[Chaps]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Because you still play the Colts twice.

[Big T]

Colts twice, Titans twice, Jets once.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

So we got like three. Should be pretty penciled in wins with the jets and. Yeah, the Titans. But that's the thing. If they. If they went out next week and beat the Titans 50 to nothing, I wouldn't be surprised. And if we got beat 49 to 25, I wouldn't be surprised.

[Big Cat]

I would. I would be surprised if. If the Titans scored 49 points, I would not. How. How are they going to score 49?

[Big T]

Trevor's gonna throw a bunch of picks.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah. Like four pick sixes.

[Big T]

Yeah. Like it. Well, not even. Like he. Like fumbles. Like just yesterday, four turnovers. Yeah. Like that stat that it was the first time that there's a plus four score differential and that that win was us against Arizona.

[Chaps]

That's.

[Big Cat]

You got me in trouble, by the way, yesterday, Chaps. You got me in hot water on part of my take.

[Big T]

How.

[Big Cat]

Because I read your stat about how The Jaguars are, what, 3, 0 on the West coast this year, and they're 4 and 16 lifetime going into this year on the west coast. And then that got into a big argument about whether or not Arizona was the West Coast.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You consider it?

[Chaps]

Of course.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Big T]

Yeah, I think anything that. Yeah, I would consider Arizona to be a West Coast NFL game. Yeah. What divisions are they in?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's true. They are in the NFC West.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But they. That devolved into conversation about what time zone Arizona was in, and sometimes it's Pacific time, but as of right now, it's currently in. In Mountain time.

[Big T]

So we're saying the only west coast teams in the entire NFL are the. The two LA teams and Seattle.

[Big Cat]

I think so. I think that's.

[Big T]

And 49ers.

[Big Cat]

I think that's what Big Cat and Hank were saying.

[Big T]

Yeah, that's a terrible argument.

[Big Cat]

I would say Vegas counts, too.

[Big T]

Yeah, I would say Vegas counts.

[Big Cat]

Vegas counts, too. Oh, and speaking of Vegas, congratulations, Mad Dog. Do you have a quarterback, Shador?

[Mad Dog]

I'm not saying anything. Like, I can't get ahead of myself.

[Big Cat]

The stupidest debate that they're pretending to have right now is whether or not Shador is going to start in the next game. It's the stupidest debate ever. If you're at the Browns, and why wouldn't you have Gabriel again? Maybe Dylan Gabriel.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You've never had a quarterback, your last 17 quarterbacks, until Shador lost their debut. Shador wins his debut. At the very, very least, you have to let him keep playing until he loses, at minimum.

[Mad Dog]

I also. And again, I'm not. And I'm not Kevin Stefanski. I'm not an NFL coach. We have nothing to lose. We suck already. Like, let the guy go. Like, let shit her go. We play the 49ers at home. Like, we're probably going to lose on Sunday, but let the guy run.

[Big Cat]

You never know. You could beat the Niners. Wait, the Niners? Why? They played this. They played tonight, right?

[Mad Dog]

You would know more than that.

[Big Cat]

They play against the panthers tonight.

[Mad Dog]

The 49ers, short week, Thanksgiving.

[Big Cat]

The 49ers alternate winning and losing every other week since, like, week two.

[Mad Dog]

Really?

[Big Cat]

They've just gone.

[Mad Dog]

Okay, So I need them.

[Big Cat]

Win, loss, win, loss, win, loss. Okay, here's the Niners schedule. All right? They won week one, they won week two, Then they won week three, lost week four, won five, lost six, won seven, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

[Mad Dog]

Okay. And so was their last game.

[Big Cat]

So they beat the Cardinals last week. So that means they're going to lose today. They're going to lose tonight to the.

[Mad Dog]

Panthers, but then that means they're going to win.

[Big Cat]

That means they're going to beat the Browns.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

On Sunday.

[Mad Dog]

And that's okay. Like, I'm not looking. Like, I'm not looking for a winning season to come out of this. Obviously, like, our bet has been made, but Dylan Gabriel, I think, is so unfortunately not good at being an NFL quarterback, from what I've seen. Let Shader throw up the watch. Let him do it. Like, people were talking online yesterday of, like, he's got to. Kevin Stefanski is going to go straight back to Dylan Gabriel. I don't understand why, though. They're both rookies. If Shador is going to win us a game, why not just keep going for a little bit?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Maybe that's why I agree.

[Mad Dog]

And that's like, kind of a genuine question, like, why would you put Dylan Gabriel back in after Shador had pretty much, I guess you could say a better performance than Dylan Gabriel's had over these past couple weeks?

[Big Cat]

You shouldn't. You shouldn't at all. I think the. I think the Only way that you take Shador out is if he loses. And even, even still, I think they should probably let him take a shot at it and just see what you got. Yeah, I could see maybe if he went out there, if he like, lit up the Raiders. Let's say he had Shador. Yeah. If he had like 400 yards passing, four touchdowns.

[Mad Dog]

Whoa.

[Big Cat]

No interceptions.

[Mad Dog]

Whoa.

[Big Cat]

I, I think the only reason you would bench him after that is if you're like, now we can get like a first round pick for Shador.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah. You're like, you have this little window.

[Big T]

Of performance, the Matt Flynn treatment.

[Big Cat]

The Matt Flynn. Yeah. But I also, if you're the Browns, I don't think that you would let. You would let that quarterback go anywhere else unless you bring back to Sean, which he was there.

[Mad Dog]

Obviously, we're really good at quarterback management. Like, obviously that's one of our strengths of a team.

[Big Cat]

I'm glad that DeSean made the trip to Vegas.

[Mad Dog]

Did he actually? I didn't even know.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

Oh, whatever. Like, whatever.

[Big T]

Coaching up Sanders on the sideline.

[Mad Dog]

Like, the Raiders are bad. So it's not.

[Big T]

We.

[Mad Dog]

When we beat the packers earlier in the season, you're like, you kind of look at that and you're like, wait, do we have something? But the Browns love to beat one really good team a year. The Raiders are a bad team.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Mad Dog]

No offense to the Raiders. So are we so winning against the Raiders, Although it's great. Someone has to win those types of games. It's not like, oh, I think Shador is the guy. But it's a fun. It's better than losing against the Raiders.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, it's a fun thing.

[Big Cat]

It is a fun thing. Nobody got hurt.

[Mad Dog]

Nobody got hurt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

It's a fun thing to say. The last 17 quarterbacks have lost or, you know, they've lost their debut. That's a fun stat. Obviously, it's the whole. The Sanders of it all. The Sanders family of it all.

[Big Cat]

Miles Garrett looked really good.

[Mad Dog]

Miles Garrett is having the best season possibly ever.

[Big Cat]

He should get MVP consideration.

[Mad Dog]

So the hard part about that, though is like, we still suck.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

So then.

[Big Cat]

But.

[Mad Dog]

But he.

[Big Cat]

I feel like with the offense that the Browns have, the fact that he's accomplishing all this on defense is even more impressive.

[Mad Dog]

Right. I. I wish that the MVP was less about how he is very valuable to our team because our defense is actually very good in. In large part due to him. Unfortunately, we are still a very bad team. I wish it was like, you are the best player. It doesn't matter how valuable you are to the team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's a.

[Mad Dog]

You are just the best player. I think that's Miles Gary right now.

[Big Cat]

Unfortunately, he's not a. Or running back. And so it always goes to one of the. I think the last time that it didn't go to either one of those positions might have been Lawrence Taylor, and that's the last time I went to a defensive player.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, he's just.

[Big Cat]

Garrett might have. He might have better stats this year than LT did.

[Mad Dog]

Is he not on pace to beat the. He's on pace season sack record?

[Big Cat]

He's on pace to crush the sack record right now. And, yeah, I think. Well, LT did it in 16 games. Miles is going to have 17.

[Chaps]

Right.

[Big Cat]

But, yeah, LT had a great season that year and obviously the Giants were a good team, but.

[Mad Dog]

So the single season sack record is held between Michael Strahan and T.J. watt with 22 and a half.

[Big Cat]

Yep. He's at 18.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah. He's five sacks away or. Actually, wait, wait, wait. How many sacks did he have yesterday?

[Big Cat]

He had three, I think.

[Mad Dog]

Okay, so he's two away.

[Big T]

Or.

[Big Cat]

No, I think he's.

[Mad Dog]

No, he's five away now. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. He broke the Brown single season sack record yesterday. Yeah, I mean, I would love it.

[Big Cat]

You might get that in the next two games at the pace he's on.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, I mean, we play. So we play the 49ers and then we play the Titans.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Those are two very sackable quarterbacks.

[Mad Dog]

Cam Ward has something brutal coming to him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

Is he still playing?

[Big Cat]

He is, yeah.

[Mad Dog]

Cambord has something brutal coming.

[Big T]

The Jaguars.

[Big Cat]

That's right. Jag's coming. Jags coming. Let's see. Well, it's Thanksgiving week. Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate.

[Chaps]

Before you do anything else, I have very important news.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Chaps]

Have you seen what Trump's latest penchant is? He's pitching something that he desperately wants. Have you seen what this is?

[Big Cat]

He's pitching something new.

[Chaps]

He wants something to be. He wants a sequel of a movie to be made.

[Big Cat]

No, I've not seen this.

[Chaps]

Trump appears to want to revive the raucous comedies and action movies of the late 1980s and 90s. He's passionate, for instance, about the 1988 Jean Claude Van Damme sports flick Bloodsport. A person directly familiar with the conversations told Semaphore that the President of the United States has personally pressed the the Paramount owner to revive another franchise from Ratner Rush Hour, a buddy cop comedy starring Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker. That Blended physical comedy, martial arts, and gags about racial stereotype. So apparently this guy, the guy who directed Rush Hour, directed a new documentary that's coming out about Melania. And so Trump has this guy's ear and he's. He's pushing Paramount hard to make a new Rush Hour.

[Big Cat]

So the guy, the guy who made the documentary, what relation does he have to Rush Hour?

[Chaps]

He directed Rush Hour.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it's the same guy.

[Chaps]

Yeah. David Ratner.

[Big Cat]

I mean, okay, Trump could just make.

[Chaps]

Bloodsport or Brett Ratner.

[Big Cat]

If he didn't, if he didn't want to. Like, if the movie's not going to get greenlit. Instead of the whole UFC fight, he could just sanction, like an international martial arts tournament.

[Chaps]

No, he doesn't want Bloodsport. He wants a new Rush Hour.

[Big Cat]

But I thought you said he was pitching Bloodsport too.

[Chaps]

No, it said he, for instance, likes Bloodsport, but the movie he wants is a new Rush Hour.

[Big Cat]

Okay, does he know about Chris Tucker and being on the Epstein jet?

[Chaps]

I don't know about that. So, yeah, I don't know that.

[Big Cat]

If he does, might be where they met.

[Chaps]

Could be Chris Tucker was an Epstein guy, I believe.

[Big Cat]

So. Let me, let me double check.

[Chaps]

Allegedly.

[Big Cat]

So I'm not slandering Chris Tucker, but I'm pretty sure I don't think I would make that up. They took a trip. Yeah, he took a trip with Epstein in 2002 on Epstein's private jet with Bill Clinton and Kevin Spacey.

[Chaps]

What a crew.

[Big Cat]

What a.

[Big T]

What a great squad to be on.

[Big Cat]

What a squad.

[Big T]

That. I'm not doing anything bad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there's some weird stuff happened on that trip. I'm just go. Allegedly. Per me. I would not. I would not think that that was just a sightseeing trip, but, yeah, that's.

[Big T]

The only person I think I've ever met that's on the Epstein list.

[Big Cat]

You've met Chris Tucker?

[Big T]

Yeah, it was at President Obama's inauguration ball.

[Big Cat]

Oh, crazy. What was he like?

[Big T]

Nice. He's just a regular old dude.

[Big Cat]

He's a very funny actor. Yeah, the Rush Hour movies are. Are pretty good. Although I gotta say, it's probably been like 15 years since I've watched one. But I remember when I was like, when I was like, 14 years old. Rush Hour, that hit hard. It was very funny.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

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[Big T]

That's exactly right.

[Big Cat]

Good one, because you're just telling on yourself for not knowing how to cook a turkey correctly. Now is a turkey. If I had a gun to my head and I have a choice between turkey and duck, I'm probably going duck. I would prefer duck to turkey overall. But if you fry a turkey or if you know how to prepare it, turkey can be a very delicious food and I'm very excited about it. So all the anti turkey propaganda floating around this time of year, you can keep that to yourselves.

[Chaps]

Have you fried before?

[Big Cat]

I fried multiple times.

[Chaps]

No incidents.

[Big Cat]

No incidents. You have to be really dumb. And this might be, I might be old takes exposing myself if, if something happens to my house. You have to be so dumb to start a fire while you're deep frying a turkey.

[Chaps]

People don't account for the the displacement.

[Big Cat]

You got to test the displacement. You got to know what size bird you're working with. You got to defrost your bird and have absolutely no water inside the turkey. None of the frozen water in there. Because if there's any sort of frozen water in there, it expands when it hits the hot oil and then it causes like, you know, the little burst and pops and then the oil boils over. You have to you have to lower the turkey in slowly. You should do it outside.

[Voicemail Caller]

And.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you gotta. You gotta test how much oil you have as opposed to how big the turkey is.

[Big T]

Have you ever seen the infrared ones?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I have.

[Big T]

Those are awesome.

[Big Cat]

Those look really cool.

[Big T]

It's like it basically is the fryer, but it's infrared around kind of like a. Almost like an air fryer. Essentially a big air fryer that you put it in. I had one in Texas, but I don't have room up here, so I had to get rid of it. But it was awesome. Like. Yeah, locks in immediately all the juices, so it's perfectly moisture all the way through. Great.

[Big Cat]

You will never have a moister turkey in your life. Then if you deep fry correctly, the skin's like, salty. Can't even inject it with stuff.

[Chaps]

Now here's what I wonder when I see these videos. Do you have just a giant deep fryer that you own?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's like a big metal, right? Yeah, it's like a burner.

[Chaps]

Did you buy it for turkeys or like, why do you have explicitly for.

[Big Cat]

Turkeys, but you can also use it.

[Big T]

For like, low country boils, like those kind of things. Yeah, we are actually me and White Sox, Dave and Megan were talking about during the winter having stews day, different types of stew that we make every Tuesday for the office.

[Big Cat]

I like that. I'm in. Yeah, that's a. That's a good idea. But yeah, you can use the pot for like, chaps at low country boil. Any seafood boil, like crawfish, things like that. I don't really get that much mileage out of it besides turkey. But it's worth it to have it just for a turkey. I think this will be my. I want to say like 20th, right around 20th Turkey that I fried.

[Big T]

Wow, that's a lot of Turkey.

[Chaps]

Started early 19.

[Big T]

And.

[Big Cat]

Oh yeah, my dad and I used to do it every year. That would be our job. We go stand in the carport and lower it in and. Yeah, it's. It's really easy to do if. If you're not an idiot.

[Big T]

That's a lot of turkeys. I didn't know you had that many reps under your belt.

[Big Cat]

A lot of turkeys. And then when I was in Austin for a while, we used to. Around Thanksgiving, we'd have. We'd have rugby games every Saturday. So the day after Thanksgiving, we would go to the grocery store, we hit up H E B. And turkeys are on sale after Thanksgiving. So we just buy a ton of Cheap ass turkeys.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

And then bring them up to the field after the game was over. Deep fry, like, five or six of them and feed everybody. And. Yeah, it's easy to do if. If you're. If you know what you're doing. I did see a video one time with Alton Brown from Food Network, and he was like, let's see what happens if you do everything wrong when you deep fry turkey. So he took it, like, right out of the freezer. He had the oil, like, bubbling super high. It was filled to the top. And then he rigged a contraption on a ladder that suspended the turkey above it and then just dropped it, released it, and it went on. It went off like a bomb. It was like a bomb. Yeah, a bird bomb that exploded. But, yeah. Try deep frying your turkey. Just follow the rules, you'll be fine. And everybody's gonna be like, God damn, this is the best turkey I've ever had in my life. I didn't know turkey could taste like this.

[Big T]

I still think smoking it is the.

[Big Cat]

Way to go smoking. It's a very, very good way to.

[Big T]

That used to be my favorite to do because I had, like, a big offset smoker.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

That I would do it on. So. Good.

[Big Cat]

That takes a lot of prep, right?

[Big T]

Not really. Like, you do the injections, obviously, for that one, like a garlic injection. And then, like, for me, I. This is the way I would do it. When I smoked it, I would cover the entire outside. After I did the injections on the inside, I would cover the outside completely in mustard and then use that as the binding agent for all the dry seasonings.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And I would put that into the smoker on each side of the offset. I would have apple juice on one side and cranberry juice on the other side. So then that would create, like, a steam of apple juice and cranberry on there. So give it a nice little kind of almost like a burgundy crust on the outside.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And then. So that would lock in everything. Like, the mustard does a really good job of also making a moisture barrier there where things don't get out. It was so good, dude. And cooking it. Like, I don't think it needs to go 225 for Turkey. Like, 275 is perfect.

[Big Cat]

What. What kind of mustard are we talking about?

[Big T]

Just regular yellow.

[Big Cat]

Regular yellow.

[Big T]

I would use that primarily for most binding for any barbecue. Like, if I did brisket or if I did anything, I would use mustard. Because by the time you're done, the flavor of the mustard is kind of gone. But it does add a little bit of vinegar to it. But, yeah, I think mustard is the best binding agent for anything barbecue related.

[Big Cat]

I'm big mustard guy, just in general.

[Big T]

And then Texas live oak is the wood you have to go.

[Big Cat]

That's the way. You can't go. Mesquite.

[Big T]

No, mesquite and hickory for poultry is just way too overpowering. You want to have something lighter, like a live oak. That's why, like, Lockharts and Smith and Blacks, like, they all use Texas live oak.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Smoked turkey sounds. Sounds delicious.

[Big T]

Or applewood and peachwood, if you can get it. Like Fredericksburg, Texas, you can go up there and get peach wood from time to time. Dry out that peach wood and put that in there for any type of.

[Big Cat]

Poultry or does that add flavor?

[Big T]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, so if you can get your hands on. If you wanted to do, like, a brighter turkey that smoked, you can get pear, peach, and applewood and use that as, like, the primary wood smoke that you're going to use.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Delicious. That's awesome. I can't wait for Thanksgiving. Do you guys want to do a quick Thanksgiving draft?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Everybody, you draft your plate.

[Chaps]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

All right. Are we going mad dog McKenzie. You guys are playing, too. I'm going to. I'm going to open up a doc so I can keep track of what's been picked and what hasn't.

[Mad Dog]

So it's a draft. So we're not just making our perfect.

[Big Cat]

It's a draft. Yeah. So you. You have to. You have to be strategic.

[Chaps]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

And you're going to miss out on some stuff that you want because other people are going to take it.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

All right, who wants to go first?

[Big T]

Do it like the McKenzie. Won't you put a finger behind your back? Yeah. When you were. Yeah. Four or five. Yeah. You go, Eric.

[Big Cat]

Three.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Did I get it?

[Big T]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Chaps]

We don't. We don't need to do all that. Just who pick an order?

[Big Cat]

Okay, we're gonna go. We're gonna go. Big T, he's gonna go.

[Chaps]

Give me the worst spot first.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's the worst.

[Chaps]

Well, it's a snake.

[Big T]

Yeah. It's gotta be.

[Chaps]

It's fine. It's fine. I'll go first.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I didn't think you were gonna complain. We'll go Big T. McKenzie. Mad Dog Me.

[Big T]

I'm lost.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no. Big T. McKenzie. Mad Dog Chaps me.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Chaps]

Can I get this at the end of the second? You know what? I'm just. I'm going with my heart. Pumpkin pie.

[Big Cat]

Wow. Okay.

[Mad Dog]

Oh, is this dessert and dinner?

[Big T]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

You can put whatever you want in there. Pumpkin pie. One.

[Big T]

One.

[Chaps]

I don't know that it's. Well, I've got 19 picks till my next one. I don't know that it's going to be there.

[Big Cat]

That's shocking.

[Mad Dog]

Oh, me. I feel like I have to say turkey.

[Big Cat]

Good pick.

[Chaps]

You do not.

[Mad Dog]

I it. That's what I'm picking.

[Big Cat]

You like turkey, big turkey fan, or are you just saying because you felt like you had to.

[Mad Dog]

No, I love turkey.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Mad Dog]

Interesting. Mashed potatoes.

[Big Cat]

That's my second great pick.

[Big T]

All right, chaps, I'm gonna go with beef tenderloin.

[Chaps]

Interesting.

[Big Cat]

Beef tenderloin, huh?

[Chaps]

Sir, we go in off the. So you can just say anything.

[Big Cat]

You can say whatever you want. Yeah. But this is your Thanksgiving plate. Okay, chaps, talk to me about the beef choice.

[Big T]

I just. I like it more than turkey. Like, I. I feel like all the things that are great, like the side dishes that go along with Thanksgiving. I think with beef, like potatoes, mashed potatoes and beef is better than mashed potatoes and turkey together. And you have like, scalloped potatoes. If you're gonna do that. I just feel like beef is a better match for what you're eating that day comparatively to turkey.

[Big Cat]

Okay, I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna take stuffing.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Or dressing, depending on what part of the country you're in. Love Stuffing. I. Stuffing should be a year round food. And then my second pick, I'm gonna take Mac and cheese.

[Chaps]

I was hoping that would last a little longer.

[Big Cat]

Some people don't do Mac and cheese for Thanksgiving. To those people, I say give it a shot. Expand your horizons a little bit.

[Big T]

Next up, me again.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Big T]

Scalloped potatoes.

[Big Cat]

Ooh.

[Big T]

Scalloped potatoes are. I feel like scalloped potatoes don't get eaten nearly enough. Oh, wow.

[Big Cat]

They're delicious. Little au gratin.

[Mad Dog]

I'm going to take a roll. Damn it.

[Big Cat]

That's a good pick.

[Chaps]

That's actually not. I was hoping that would be there as well.

[Big Cat]

That's a great pick.

[Mad Dog]

I am going to take corn.

[Big Cat]

What kind of corn are we talking about?

[Mad Dog]

Not on the cob.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Mad Dog]

Loose corn.

[Big Cat]

Just loose corn.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Loose corn.

[Chaps]

Is this back to me?

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Chaps]

Honey baked ham.

[Big Cat]

Good pick.

[Big T]

Some people would say that's for pores.

[Chaps]

I don't agree.

[Mad Dog]

That's like a Christmas sometimes for me.

[Chaps]

Some would say turkeys for pores.

[Big T]

They would. They'd be wrong, but they would say it.

[Chaps]

So now I have heard that. I go again.

[Big Cat]

I'VE heard people say that's for pores.

[Chaps]

Sweet potato casserole.

[Big Cat]

Great pick. Great pick. Big T. Yeah.

[Chaps]

That was a strong two right there.

[Big Cat]

You got. You know what? You've got a beautiful plate. Yeah. You've got orange, red, pink, orange. I like it.

[Big T]

How do you like your sweet potato casserole? What's in it for you?

[Chaps]

Whatever. I don't know.

[Mad Dog]

Do you do the.

[Chaps]

However it comes? Marshmallows, sometimes. I've had it both ways.

[Big Cat]

Pecans.

[Chaps]

Yeah. I. That's the only. I'm not a nut guy.

[Big T]

Strudel topping.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

A little brown sugar, maybe.

[Chaps]

Always. Yeah. All right.

[Big Cat]

Good pick. All right, Mac, you got turkey and some corn.

[Mad Dog]

Corn. Loose corn. Shoot. I honestly, like everything else that I eat on Thanksgiving has been taken.

[Chaps]

Um.

[Mad Dog]

I don't know. I'm, like, literally Googling, like, Thanksgiving stuff. I'm on the same Google right now.

[Big T]

I'm upset for you that you're exhausted. On pics at 12.

[Big Cat]

There's a few more.

[Mad Dog]

I'm a very, like, plain person. Like, I am very plain. But, like, I feel like Thanksgiving foods. It's like my main things have been taken. I'm gonna say chocolate chip pie. What's that?

[Chaps]

Never heard of that.

[Mad Dog]

It's like, literally just like a toll house chocolate chip pie. It's very good.

[Big T]

So like a cookie cake.

[Mad Dog]

Yes. Sort of in a pie form.

[Chaps]

I would like to draft cookie cake.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Mad Dog]

I should have done that, but, yeah. Now I'm trying to decide between something I don't like but is a quintessential. This is your plate Thanksgiving. I know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

I'm doing. Doing things. There's something that hasn't been taken that's like a quintessential Thanksgiving item. But I don't like it.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I think I know what might be.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, you do. You definitely do.

[Big Cat]

Do I?

[Mad Dog]

I think you do, but I don't want it on my plate. Oh, I'm gonna go with what I would want on my plate. Roasted brussels sprouts.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Big T]

Yep. That was my next pick too.

[Big Cat]

Brussels sprouts got such a bad rap when we were kids.

[Mad Dog]

They're so good.

[Big T]

Well, they've been genetically modified.

[Big Cat]

Have they gotten better?

[Big T]

Yes. They like the bitterness that used to be in it was genetically modified out.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I didn't know that. I always assumed that it was just because people back in the 80s and 90s just boiled Brussels sprouts. They're like, here's your Brussels sprouts. It's just been boiling.

[Big T]

Yeah. I mean, the preparation is definitely Improved, too. But it was genetically modified to get rid of that.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Science.

[Big T]

Yeah, they crushed it.

[Big Cat]

All right, chaps, you were up.

[Big T]

Prosciutto wrapped. Asparagus.

[Big Cat]

Prosciutto wrapped. God damn, chaps. This is French Thanksgiving.

[Chaps]

You're kind of going off the reservation here.

[Big T]

You could do that on Thanksgiving. That was the whole point.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you can do whatever. That's very true.

[Chaps]

Golf season is in full swing, and.

[Big Cat]

Getting out there to work on your.

[Chaps]

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[Big Cat]

All right, I got stuffing, Mac and cheese. I'm gonna go. Does gravy counts?

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, that's like the whole debate. There's like a whole clip of them doing this on Snake Draft. And it was like, I think Carl picked gravy.

[Big T]

Gravy would count.

[Mad Dog]

That's not a. That's a side.

[Big Cat]

I think gravy counts, though. But because I'm making my plate, I'm just drafting my plate here.

[Chaps]

So I've got two next.

[Big Cat]

No, you have one. This is gonna be my last pick. Everyone gets four.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Chaps]

Oh, well, I had two that I was just about to win.

[Big Cat]

I don't.

[Chaps]

So which one do I have?

[Big Cat]

But you have to wait. It's a snake. So I go again. And then, chaps, you have to wait for everybody to go.

[Chaps]

Oh, I thought we were back to me.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Chaps]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

You got lost to the snake.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. My last pick. This is. I'm actually tempted to take the one that I think Mad Dog was going to take, but she doesn't actually like. Which is green bean casserole.

[Mad Dog]

Oh, no, that's not what I was thinking. I feel like I love green bean casserole.

[Big T]

I hate green bean casserole. The passion.

[Big Cat]

I just nixed green bean casserole from the Thanksgiving menu.

[Big T]

Did you?

[Big Cat]

I. In theory, I like it.

[Mad Dog]

Oh, from your personal. Yeah, your actual.

[Chaps]

Why'd you draft it in?

[Big Cat]

No, I. I'm not. I haven't take my hand off the piece yet.

[Chaps]

Okay.

[Mad Dog]

Oh, so you're.

[Chaps]

Sorry, Balls are playing. I'm not locked in.

[Big Cat]

So green bean casserole, let's have the conversation.

[Mad Dog]

Oh, wait, you took it off this list or your actual Thanksgiving?

[Big Cat]

Off my actual Thanksgiving.

[Mad Dog]

Okay, so you're still drafting it in this dress?

[Big Cat]

No, no, not yet.

[Mad Dog]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I'm just saying we should have the conversation because it's very polarizing.

[Big T]

Well, I think it depends on the green bean here is what's important.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

If you're going with, like, frozen or canned green beans, it is absolute dog shit. Yeah. That's not the way. If you're doing fresh green beans where the green beans still have a little crunch, which is what you need to.

[Big Cat]

Do, they get the flavor.

[Big T]

Like that is appropriate.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Big T]

But I feel like on the Thanksgiving table, there should not be a single vegetable that originated in a can.

[Big Cat]

I agree. I agree. I think that, yeah. The, like, wilty, brownish, grayish green beans that come from a can. Yeah. They ruin it. They ruin it.

[Big T]

So if you get off too mushy, there's not enough texture differentiation. Yep.

[Big Cat]

If you get fresh green beans, it's a game changer.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But it is on a lot of menus, and I did eat it a lot growing up, so that's why I'm thinking. Okay, But I'm not going to. For my final pick, I needed. I need a dessert on there. Pumpkin pies off the board. We've got sweet potato casserole, which is kind of sweet, but that's not a dessert. That's off the board. Chocolate chip pie is off the board as well. I just had a new kind of pie last week. Really like it a lot.

[Big T]

Coconut cream.

[Big Cat]

Hoosier pie. You ever have Hoosier pie?

[Big T]

Yes.

[Chaps]

Never heard of it.

[Big Cat]

It's like a sugar maple syrupy type pie. It is. It's just sweet. It just tastes sweet, but it tastes delicious. I've had twice in the last week. It's so good. I think it's an Indiana pie. That's why they call it Hoosier pie.

[Chaps]

Oh, check out.

[Big Cat]

And checks out, but Hoosier pie is legit. Full endorsement. But on Thanksgiving, I'm going to go with. You know what? I'll do pecan pie.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Pecan pie. Since sweet potatoes off the board, I.

[Big T]

Feel like with a pecan pie, automatically you also include an Irish cream coffee in that. I feel like it's a combo.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yep. Yep. That's a good call. Pecan pie, maybe, you know, scoop of ice cream. Vanilla ice cream on there. I should have taken beer. I didn't take a beer. All right, chaps, you're up.

[Big T]

All right, now this one, because I already have a pretty solid plate. I feel like with beef tenderloin, scalloped potatoes, and asparagus, I can get through that meal just Load me up over and over again with that. But because the star of the day is football, like, we're going to be watching football all the time. My dessert is going to be. Because I'm going to pair it with a drink. That's why I gave you the Irish coffee. Boiled peanuts and sweet tea.

[Big Cat]

Boiled peanuts and sweet tea?

[Big T]

Yeah. Because I feel like if you're. After you're done eating, if you want a snack, you can eat boiled peanuts until Christ comes back and you won't be full. Like, you could just eat them all day and watch football. Drink a little sweet tea. To me, that's the perfect end of a big meal like that.

[Big Cat]

It's a good pick. It's a good pick. Some snacks. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of charcuterie that we probably. I love the snacking before the meal.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, as you're cooking, that's another one.

[Big T]

Because you're not going to get full off of them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But if you have too much of the bread and the cheese and meat. Yeah, you can.

[Big T]

Having a nice charcuterie spread is nice, for sure.

[Big Cat]

All right, Mad Dog, speaking of the.

[Mad Dog]

Snacks before the actual meal, I'm going with baked brie and puff pastry.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Mad Dog]

Maybe a little apricot fig jam on that.

[Big Cat]

Would you happen to be drinking a chilled glass of white wine while you're eating?

[Mad Dog]

You know what? I might. But honestly, on Thanksgiving, I tend to go for a red. I'm usually with my family, who likes to buy nicer wine than I'm usually drinking. Maybe a nice glass of Camus.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Mad Dog]

If things have gone well this year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

With the baked brie, I can get down.

[Big Cat]

Okay. That's a good pick. Thank you, Mac.

[Mad Dog]

Can I do cheesy potatoes?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

Or is that too similar to the other potatoes? Like a funeral potato? Yes, with, like, the crisp funeral potato.

[Big Cat]

Funeral potato. Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

I think that's a Midwest thing, right? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Is it actually served at funerals?

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, like a luncheon after a funeral. I just learned about it, like, this year.

[Big Cat]

But, yeah, I remember when my. My grandma Mimi passed away in North Carolina, going down for a funeral. And I have never seen as many casseroles in my entire life as I did on that afternoon. It was like every lady brought in a casserole to the basement of the Baptist church, and it was just casserole after casserole. All had, like, the same.

[Big T]

They.

[Big Cat]

They shared, like, four common ingredients, and then some had rice, some had beans, some had potatoes, and it was just casserole city Or a lasagna. Yeah, it is.

[Mad Dog]

That's a big one for.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Mad Dog]

Dead relatives.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Because the best thing about people dying.

[Big Cat]

The food.

[Big T]

Lasagna.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

When I was, like, when my grandpa ziti. Literally, when my grandpa passed away, my cousins and I were, like, o pretty young. And, like, some of my younger cousins were like, we're having so much fun, like, at the wake because, like, everybody was just, like, bringing us food and, like, treats and stuff. And, like, we were so young that we didn't, like, realize what was actually going on, but we were like, we're, like, eating so well right now.

[Big T]

But honestly, if you're a grandpa, that's the best compliment you can get from your grandkids. That they had fun at my funeral.

[Big Cat]

That is true.

[Big T]

Like, because I. When I have grandkids, I wouldn't want them to be sad. I'd want to be happy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

Yeah. But it was very funny.

[Chaps]

All right, Big T. I'm still between two, but I think the fact that this lasted to the last pick. I mean. Show me. Show me. Cornbread.

[Big Cat]

Cornbread. Good call, Good call.

[Big T]

Now, how do you like your cornbread? Just, like, the jiffy box or we doing something to it?

[Chaps]

No. Yeah, Just straight. I don't. Don't put jalapenos in it. Don't do.

[Big T]

What about loose corn from.

[Chaps]

No, thank you. Just the cornbread. Crispy butter.

[Big T]

My wife made this new thing, like, two weeks ago, and we've had it three times since because it was so good. I might get her to make it for your house, too. It's like this cornbread, but it's softer, and it's. So she has the cornbread and then adds, like, half of a can of cream corn and then some other, like, a heavy cream where it's almost, like, really dense instead of, like, fluffy. Cornbread.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big T]

It is so good.

[Big Cat]

That sounds good to me.

[Big T]

Yeah, she might make it.

[Big Cat]

Love a good cornbread. I love the idea of just a brick of cornbread, too. Like a heavy piece and almost like cake.

[Big T]

I'm cornbread. Like that. I also love putting all of that into one bowl. And, like, that's how I want my Thanksgiving leftovers. I don't want partitions. I want you to put the cornbread down. Mashed potatoes on top of that, some turkey on top of that, maybe some roasted brussels sprouts. And then I'm going to mix it all up and throw it in to the microwave and then hit it over the top with a little bit of warm gravy.

[Big Cat]

That's Perfect. I made Thanksgiving soup last year afterwards. Yeah, the soup ended up pretty good. Pretty good. I. I forget what. I. I think I used, like, the. The cheese sauce from the Mac and cheese combined with some sweet potatoes and turkey stock as, like, the roux, and then you slowly add the other ingredients into it. It was good. It was. I'm going to do that again this year. But yeah, the. The leftover bites are. God damn, I love Thanksgiving. I think it's my favorite.

[Big T]

Oh, I bet it would be good. What do you think about taking all that stuff that I just mentioned, hitting it in, like, a food processor, forming balls, and then frying those balls?

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yeah.

[Big T]

Like, what is that? Aaron Cheney? Like a Thanksgiving Aaron Cheney.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So put some breadcrumbs on the outside.

[Big T]

Drop it in that panko.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that sounds delicious, Chaps. I mean, we could. On Thanksgiving, we could have fun with the fryer.

[Big T]

You have the fryer?

[Big Cat]

I got the fryer. We could. Yeah, we could drop a little bit of the mashed potatoes in there to make some, like, fried mashed potato balls.

[Big T]

Who's. Who's going to stop us?

[Big Cat]

Nobody.

[Big T]

Nobody's going to stop.

[Big Cat]

We're grown ups.

[Big T]

We can only have that thing out a couple of times a year.

[Big Cat]

That's a good point.

[Big T]

Dude. After we eat, like, two hours after we eat, we need to do that.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Just let's.

[Big T]

Thanksgiving arancini.

[Big Cat]

Will it fry?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

Are you going to his house? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Chaps, coming over. It's gonna be fun time.

[Big T]

Kelsey's gonna come to my older kid.

[Big Cat]

Fun time. I can't wait. Yeah, chaps, I got. I got a question for you, though, about. About Blake.

[Chaps]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Next time he gets. How do I get him to drop the rabbit? Because in his brain, he was like, this is what I've trained my entire life for. This is the best thing I've ever picked up in my mouth. I have wild game.

[Big T]

The best way to do is pick him up by his collar, like so. All right, so if I. If he's wearing the collar and you put your hands underneath it and grab.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

You want to pull up, like, pull your wrist in so it gets tighter, like, right around his ears, and then pull up because he's going to try to bring his body back down using oppositional reflex.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And so then whenever that's in there, it'll automatically cause his mouth to open too. Okay. So it triggers, like a puppy pressure point, essentially.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Because he was. He was just.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's so pumped to have this rabbit.

[Big T]

It happened with Gus, too. Gus caught a rabbit and Texas. And he looked. I've never seen him look happier. His eyes were like, look how. Look how great of a job I did.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And then he, like, spit it out. He was very sad that he didn't get to chase it again. But. Yeah, when they're very happy in their prey drive has gone into overdrive, and they're not used to that. It's tough.

[Big Cat]

You can't. Yeah. It's impossible to, like, get their attention going in a different direction.

[Big T]

Did you. Speaking of dog, did you see that in Russia, the hockey team that brought out the working dog for the opening puck drop?

[Big Cat]

Yes, I did. Yeah. That was very funny.

[Big T]

I was like, what are you guys doing, man?

[Big Cat]

So the dog came out there, and the hockey players were wearing all their equipment, which, to a dog, is indistinguishable from somebody that's wearing the giant padded suit that they use.

[Big T]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

To train them like it and attack. And so then he grabbed the hockey player's glove. How they get the glove out of.

[Big T]

His mouth by the same way. I mean, with the trained dog probably just out, like, told him to.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It was very funny, though, because the dog was just doing what the dog has been trained to do.

[Big T]

Yeah. And, like, even the way that the dog, like, there's certain ways. Like. Like, that's a Malinois on that video.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

There's a certain way that they, like, move their little feet because they're getting excited because they're about to bite somebody. Like, when he walked him out, I was like, the dog's already doing the feet, and he, like, he's.

[Big Cat]

He's ready to go.

[Big T]

He's letting you know somebody's getting bit right now.

[Big Cat]

Time. All right, well, good Thanksgiving draft. Hope everybody enjoys their Thanksgiving out there.

[Big T]

I know.

[Big Cat]

I'm very excited about it.

[Big T]

I have boiled peanuts if you want me to bring some.

[Big Cat]

Bring some boiled peanuts over. Yeah, yeah. We'll get the games on.

[Chaps]

We'll.

[Big Cat]

We'll snack on those. Maybe get. I'll get some sweet tea for us.

[Big T]

I went to.

[Big Cat]

Anybody ever call you that? Big tea, Sweet tea?

[Chaps]

Not that I'm aware of.

[Big Cat]

Good nickname for you.

[Big T]

Not even your fiance? No, no.

[Chaps]

She's probably the only person left that calls me by my first name.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Mad Dog]

Only person left.

[Chaps]

One of very few. Yeah. Also, I don't like sweet tea.

[Big Cat]

Eric's making a. That's weird.

[Chaps]

It's just.

[Big Cat]

It.

[Chaps]

I don't understand the appeal.

[Big T]

I don't like it when it's super sweet like that. Like, my Grandma would do a full ass cup for a half gallon or a quart, whatever it is. I don't like that.

[Chaps]

It's just, it's bad Kool Aid.

[Big Cat]

Like I like, like Kool Aid mixed with grass clippings.

[Chaps]

Yeah. Like, if you're gonna. I'd rather just have a. The Coca Cola.

[Big T]

That might be your worst southern take I've ever heard.

[Big Cat]

You have? Yeah.

[Big T]

Sweet tea guy grew up in Georgia, went to school in Tennessee. Doesn't like sweet tea.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Blasphemous.

[Chaps]

Not a fan.

[Big Cat]

But yeah. You said that no one, no one's left that still calls you Connor. Eric's making a comeback around this office.

[Chaps]

Really?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, it started with Jersey Jerry.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And he was the only one that did it. And then by osmosis, big T, I think, caught it from Jersey Jerry.

[Chaps]

No, I do it and Arian does it. I do it because Arian does it.

[Big Cat]

Yep. And then chaps does it too, which I'm fine with. But I think patient zero was Jersey Jerry.

[Chaps]

Well, he does it unironically.

[Big Cat]

He does, yeah, that's correct.

[Big T]

I've called you Eric for years.

[Big Cat]

For years. Yeah. Yeah. But Jersey Jerry, like he. From day one he was just like, eric, come over here. I'm like, all right, Jerry. Yeah, whatever, Gerald. So Thanksgiving is time of year to. To be with loved ones. It's also a great time of year to make friends with people for the first time that come over and you get to have a meal with them, get to have a nice conversation with them. And I think nowhere else has this been embodied as much recently as our president Donald Trump and the mayor of New York City, Zoran Maldani, who paid a pre Thanksgiving visit to the White House. Was that on Friday of last week?

[Chaps]

Thursday or Friday?

[Big Cat]

Friday.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He went down there, I think. I think Donnie's in love.

[Big T]

I. That was one. I looked. So I googled it so many times. Is this AI? Yeah. Like, because it was so unbelievably unrealistic off of everything. I didn't see any of the. I didn't pay attention to any of, like the conservative backlash there had to have been. Right.

[Big Cat]

I think people were. People were upset. Yeah.

[Big T]

Like the same people that were saying that, like he was part of 911 and shit, like a 911 sympathizer. Now Trump sucking him off and dressing like him.

[Big Cat]

I think they're saying, I. I saw a couple different takes. Some was, yeah, like, what is he doing? Why is he being nice to this guy? I saw some people saying this is how Trump operates. He's transactional. So if he, if he likes you, then he doesn't really care about any of the stuff that you've done that you would think he would disagree with.

[Big T]

Me being like, oh, go ahead, say I'm a fascist. That's okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was the family part.

[Chaps]

Yeah, that was. He kind of disarmed him, though. He kind of like, he won that interaction.

[Big Cat]

The, the interviewer was like, I don't think so.

[Big T]

Because it, it made Mom Domini be able to say yes without.

[Chaps]

But everybody. Because if he thought it was funny.

[Big T]

Right. But if he says yes in the Oval Office without Trump acting that way, I even feel like that's insane to do to the President of the United States in the Oval Office. But that's why I think he's a fascist.

[Chaps]

Trump understands, like, the theater. He get. He, he's a showman. Sure.

[Big T]

But he's, I don't, I don't feel like this goes along. I think it's a prime example of he likes the last thing that he heard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

I think he respects strength.

[Big T]

I would agree with that.

[Chaps]

Zo Ron went in there and kind of, you know, talk to him like a man. And Trump was like, you know what? I respect this guy.

[Big Cat]

I also think Trump respects him because he took out Cuomo and Trump hates.

[Big T]

Cuomo even though he endorsed him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but you know that, like old New York families like that.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They love to see the other guy get torn down.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like Trump when he was growing up, the Cuomo, they ran the state, they ran the city. And Trump's like, yeah, this is awesome. That this young guy just utterly embarrassed one of the Cuomo's. So he's probably, he was probably cool with him because of that. And then in, when they were talking to the reporters, not just the, like, is he a fascist? Yeah, go ahead and say. You can say. It's easier if you say it. Yeah, I understand. There was that, and then there was also the, the person that was trying to do the gotcha question of, like, why did you fly down here when it's better for the environment if you took a train or even drove. And then Trump's like, I'll, I'll handle this one. It's quite a bit faster to travel by plane. He's like, it's a lot of time in a car.

[Chaps]

It's a long drive.

[Big Cat]

It's a long drive. I'll handle that one. That's okay that you did that. And he's like, thank you, sir. It Was. It was. It was crazy. I did not see them getting along that well, or at least I didn't see. I didn't see Trump getting along with Mandani that well. I didn't think that Mandani was going to go in there and, like, go guns blazing and just, like, torch him in front of the media or anything. I thought that the smartest thing that Mamdani did, I think, was to talk to Trump about how a lot of Trump voters also voted for him to be like, hey, we have some people that are in common. They want to see improvement. They want to see money spent in the United States as opposed to funding wars overseas. I think that Trump was like, yeah, very good, very good. But again, that might be also a case of, like, Steve Miller probably got in his ear after Mamdani left and then told Trump all the things that he should hate about the mayor of New York. And now, who knows how Trump thinks about Mandani now. But, yeah, I think Mamdani charmed him.

[Big T]

But I don't even think that was the biggest meeting in the Oval Office that week. I think it was with the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, mbs. That meeting was insane.

[Big Cat]

That was pretty wild.

[Big T]

Like sticking up for a guy who your intelligence, in the time that he was in the Oval Office said killed an American journalist and being like, happens. And then selling them. Like, after the CIA, the 911 report, all implicate Saudi Arabia. Be like, here's our best fighter jets we got.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you want some F35.

[Big T]

That shit's crazy.

[Big Cat]

Let me top you off with some F. F35s.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

MBS, what does one of those go for?

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's a good question.

[Big T]

By standalone is not really fair because of the amount of R D that went in to those two. Like legit hundreds of billions of dollars.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Big T]

What was it? F35.

[Chaps]

I'm seeing it costs us 100 million to make one.

[Big Cat]

So it was the F35. I want to say the. The B that we sold them, we make F35s for ourselves, and then we sell them to our allies. And the ones that we sell don't have all the bells and whistles.

[Chaps]

It looks like the F35A is the cheapest to make 82 million.

[Big Cat]

That's probably the one that we sold them.

[Chaps]

The other, the B and C cost.

[Big T]

A little over 100 and they bought 30, right? Something like that.

[Big Cat]

That sounds right.

[Chaps]

So let's say we sold it to him for 100.

[Big Cat]

The F35. A's don't have the power windows, so.

[Chaps]

It'D be 3 billion.

[Big T]

But that's not money that we inherit either. That's like American businesses like the Lockheed Martin's, Boeing's and everything. All of that money doesn't just go to us. It goes to the manufacturing who built it. We don't own any of that.

[Big Cat]

Right. So I, I know that in the Oval Office they said, Trump said that he's investing. MBS, is investing 700 billion in the United States. And then later on at that dinner, he said, he actually just told me it's going to be a trillion. So he topped off another 300 billion every time the meeting. Do you think that there's a chance that Trump just said a trillion?

[Big T]

Yeah, dude. Like, that's what he does with the tariff numbers.

[Big Cat]

And then what do you think, mbs, what do you think? His reaction was like, I guess I better pay another.

[Chaps]

I mean, you're already there.

[Big Cat]

300 billion. I'm just going to smile and nod.

[Big T]

But once you're. That's not an agreement. You know, Trump can say whatever you want to. Just like when he's like, oh, we brought in 1.2 and tariffs and like the, that would be a third of our entire GDP for the year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's the. Trump is the term sheet king. So, like, if you get, he's real big on making people sign term sheets, which is like a loose agreement to buy something.

[Big T]

Like the colts with Josh McDaniels.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like, absolutely no, no teeth behind it whatsoever. Yeah, Like, I used to do that. I'll be honest, I was a term sheet guy when I, when I was in sales. Because it's like the, the more you can get somebody to like write their name down on something, the more likely it is that they end up spending that money with you.

[Big T]

I mean, that's what they do at car dealerships. Be like, oh, if we can get it to this number, go ahead and initial. Sure, I'll initial that. Post it note that means absolutely fucking nothing.

[Big Cat]

Initial it so I can take it to my, my sales manager. Yeah. And, and we can give you, listen, the best price.

[Big T]

We're trying to do everything we got here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I, oh, man.

[Big T]

I mean, we got to make, this is a business for us. We got to make money, too.

[Big Cat]

I'm in the middle of buying a car. I love it. I love it so much.

[Big T]

It's another one.

[Big Cat]

It's my favorite process. Well, we, There was a little bit of, there was a snafu with one of the cars in the software. So might be time to. To move on to something else. But I love the process, man. I love the process of shopping for a car.

[Big T]

God, dude, I hate it. The COVID was the best time. My daughter's car, I just found it online, and I was like, you guys bring it to me and I'll have a check ready for you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And I didn't even have to leave. They brought it, got out, sprayed their little air freshener in it. I got out, drove it for, like, two miles, came back, handed them the check, and they went on their way.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they didn't have time to. To mess around. They couldn't have people in the.

[Big T]

No.

[Big Cat]

In the dealership at all.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So, yeah, it's, man, It's. It's a fun pro. If you don't have a car and you're buying a car, it sucks because they've got you by the balls, and they know that. And so you're, like, taking a Uber or taxi to the dealership or whatever, getting dropped off by a friend, and then you, in the back of your mind, you're like, I really don't want to have to take a bus back or take a taxi back. So you're way more likely to buy a car. You feel like you kind of have to. But if you have a car that runs and it's just like, time for an upgrade or you're going to sell your old one. I love that process you go in. You, especially if you get a salesperson that is, like, playing the game with you. And, like, you understand that they're negotiating. They understand you're negotiating. It's a fun little back and forth. I really enjoy it.

[Big T]

What are you looking at now?

[Big Cat]

Looking at a couple different things. I'm looking at potentially a potentially Bronco. Looking at Honda Pilot is another one. May I? I looked at a Land Rover Defender, which are cool cars, but they're, like, out of cars now. Land Rover had, like, a big production mishap. I had something to do with their software, too, I think, but they just don't have cars right now. So they're getting, like, three cars over the next two months, which is kind of a bummer. But, yeah, I just. I love the process.

[Big T]

I would love to see you in one of those Toyotas that are, like, the Outback Toyota. Which ones like, that they use in, like, the Outback.

[Big Cat]

Oh, like the Land Cruisers.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah, like the old school Land Cruiser. Yeah, Like, I feel like with your mullet now, put a rugby sticker on the back and you can have full out Australian stolen valor.

[Big Cat]

The ones that incredible 10ft up in the air.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

You've got like the. The intake that. So you can drive through a river.

[Big T]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

That goes out of the hood.

[Big T]

You can throw a mattress up on the top.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I would love to drive an old car from like the 1980s, but then I. I haven't had the best of luck with. I'm not a car guy. I don't know how to like maintain a car correctly.

[Big T]

It feels like there's always a lot of tinkering with those.

[Big Cat]

I. I learned how to like replace the battery wires last year. That was about as handy as I can get. Like I had to cinch them and time together with electric tape and then clamp them into the clamps and then put the connected to the battery. That's about as handy as I get.

[Big T]

But it's not as hard as it. I think it looks like, like I didn't know about it. After my truck got stolen during COVID I went out and bought like a old Dodge Ram because I wanted to make videos about how to improve it. I didn't know anything about cars and figuring out how to put in like a remote start and changing out like parts of like the water pump and the fuel injector, like changing all that stuff out. Once you start doing it, you realize it's not that complicated for older cars now. Like with the electronic issues now, it's like almost impossible for a new car for you to figure anything out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is.

[Big T]

Everything's electronic.

[Big Cat]

It's electronic and everything's hidden too. So you don't have access to anything.

[Big T]

And if you to repair anything, it take costs so much because they got to take up so much.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I have a electric car, like a hybrid electric car that will drive like 50 miles electric and then it shifts over to gas after that's done. My car went to the shop no less than 10 times and they were trying to figure it out that we don't know what it is. And it was so bad that I'd be driving like 30 down the road and it would just stop and like my. It would be grinding to a halt essentially. And the only thing that was wrong with it was the. The charging port was loose. So once because it like I would get this alert up on my screen that said, is your car currently plugged in? And I'd be like, dude, I'm driving 55 down the highway. No, it's not.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's the software. I think for the most part, like the software is, it has to be perfect because it's a car that relies on all the different systems to run. And if there's anything that's slightly imperfect about the software, then it can just shut the entire car down. And then you have to like get it towed in and they install an update and it's. Yeah, it was, it was easier when it was like, here's your engine, here's your carburetor. There's a cooling system.

[Big T]

Yeah. Almost anytime something was wrong was a carbonator.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy. All right. What else we got in the news today? I think we're going to invade Venezuela. Looks like something might be happening, Might be conducting strikes on Venezuela. Yeah, we got B52s that are like cruising the skies just north of there. Maduro has been a guy that has been targeted for the last like 20 years by various forms of our government. And now it seems like we're going to try to take him out in the hopes that then Cuba will fall. I don't, I don't really know what the end game is for taking out. Maduro's not a good guy, but the world has a lot of not good guys.

[Big T]

Probably also owe the military industrial complex some money too.

[Big Cat]

It's about time for.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

For that paycheck to come. I just, it's, it's just giving me like Iraq the lead up.

[Big T]

I would say probably worse. Like just because like you're targeting people in fishing boats that would have to refill 25, 30 times in order for them to even get to the coast of Florida, like with as much and how much drugs because they possibly have in there. And the ammunition that you're using costs so much money. Like you're killing people extra digitiously. You don't even know. Like even Rand Paul was like 50 of the time that the Coast Guard interdicts people. There's nothing in there. Yeah. So now that they, they know for.

[Big Cat]

Sure, fentanyl is not manufactured, doesn't come from Venezuela, it comes from China to Mexico, Mexico to the US but yeah, it just feels like this is the start of a very bad idea, a very, very bad idea. Because yeah, it's like we invaded Iraq, but also Venezuela is in our hemisphere, it's very close to us. And maybe this will be the time when we invade a country, topple a government, install a guy that we like and then there won't be any strife afterwards, there won't be any civil wars and there won't be millions of people that are refugees from Venezuela that flee across the entire continent and then end up causing a lot of unforeseen problems everywhere. Maybe this will be the time that it works. But it seems like that's what they're going for. Big T. Yeah. Tell me about this plot to blot out the sun.

[Chaps]

Yeah. So there is a startup company called Stardust Solutions and they have a plan to supposedly alleviate global warming by spraying some sort of reflective particles into the stratosphere that it says will help block the sun and therefore help global warming somehow.

[Big Cat]

So it's solar geoengineering is what they're calling it. Some people call it stratospheric aerosol injection. This is Mr. Burns kind of. Yeah, Mr. Burns did this on the Simpsons.

[Chaps]

They've raised a ton of money.

[Big Cat]

So how, how are they going to be allowed to like do this for the entire planet?

[Chaps]

I have no idea.

[Big T]

To just like bigger version of the cloud seeding?

[Chaps]

Similar, I guess. But they're saying they can like block the sun.

[Big Cat]

You would need to spray a fuckload of aerosol, wouldn't you?

[Chaps]

Yeah. They claim their particles are inert and safer than traditional sulfate aerosols.

[Big Cat]

So they're just going to fly planes around, gas the atmosphere, blot out the sun? What if they do too much?

[Chaps]

Brother, I don't know. I just send the links.

[Big Cat]

This seems like it would be a bad idea.

[Chaps]

It certainly could be.

[Big Cat]

I'm going to go on record and say that this is a bad idea.

[Big T]

Disavow.

[Big Cat]

Disavow this idea.

[Big T]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

Disavow this idea.

[Chaps]

The Stardust CEO Yanai Yadvab was a nuclear physicist who was once deputy chief scientist at the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission.

[Big Cat]

See, I also just think that this is, this is the most short sighted thing. They're not gonna get it right the first time they try it. You can't experiment on this. There's no like, unless they like fly to Marsie Daisy dark all the time. Yeah. Whoops. My bad. Also, as somebody who lives in Chicago, like man, maybe, maybe if it gets a little bit warmer in the summertime. For me personally, I'm okay with that. In the wintertime, all the people that are buying real estate and cold climates counting on global warming, they're gonna be screwed. We got some breaking news.

[Big T]

What?

[Big Cat]

Shador Sanders is going to be the starting quarterback for the Browns.

[Mad Dog]

Oh wow.

[Big Cat]

Put your wrists up, get icy. And the Saints are trying out Justin Tucker. So that's good.

[Mad Dog]

Is he not under investigation?

[Big Cat]

He served his six game suspension.

[Mad Dog]

Oh, that's all it was.

[Big T]

If you're him, you just gotta ride off into the sum set. You can't go to the Saints. Just be done.

[Big Cat]

It doesn't matter how good you are going to be at kicking from, from this point on, like everyone just knows you as the guy that got jacked off a bunch.

[Big T]

Right. Like, and you could just fade away. Like, I had forgotten that Justin Tucker existed until you just said that. Now it's back. Why, why is he waiting this long in the season? Oh, because he was very inappropriate.

[Chaps]

Like, what's he going to make for the last six, seven games of the year? I don't know, like 100 grand.

[Big Cat]

A couple hundred thousand maybe. I don't know. Let's see. What's Justin Tucker's career earnings?

[Big T]

Oh, it's a lot. I bet, I bet it's 55 million.

[Chaps]

I bet he made like yeah, three or four a year. I'm gonna say 42.

[Big Cat]

He has made.

[Mad Dog]

I have it.

[Big T]

You have it?

[Mad Dog]

51.

[Big Cat]

51 million, I guess. Yeah. I mean he was the best kicker maybe in the history of the game.

[Big T]

Yeah. For a long time.

[Big Cat]

And then in other NFL news that just broke. J.J. mcCarthy is likely to not play in the Vikings next game. He's been placed into concussion protocol.

[Chaps]

I feel bad for that guy. He was put in a situation that he was not prepared for.

[Big T]

And you don't draft yourself.

[Chaps]

Yeah, no, I say this all the time, especially in sports. Like if you've got a relief pitcher that sucks and he keeps going out there and blowing saves, it's not that guy's fault. He knows he sucks. You know he sucks. The manager knows he sucks. It's the manager that keeps putting him out there.

[Big T]

Right.

[Big Cat]

The saga behind JJ McCarthy has been very strange for the last year. So he got the, he got the meniscus surgery. Right. That was preseason of 2024. And then they were like, he's going to be out for the entire year. But I feel like with meniscus you could pro. I guess it depends on what kind of meniscus Terry had. But then he was put out for the entire year and then the Vikings were like, maybe we'll. You know what, we're gonna, we're gonna not resign Sam Darnold. We're not going to resign Daniel Jones. We're going to kick the tires on Aaron Rodgers. But then also we're 100% committed to JJ and then we're going to bring in some quarterbacks and then trade them in the off season because we're also 100 committed to JJ. Just feels like a lot of very strange stuff has been going on around him.

[Big T]

Yeah. And you would think Kevin o' Connell will be better at quarterback evaluation since he's supposed to be this big quarterback guy.

[Big Cat]

Maybe he's not a great evaluator. Maybe he's just a good coach.

[Big T]

But if that was the case, like, you would think a guy with first ground pedigree that you could be able to coach him up. Like, if the things that he got out of Sam Darnold. Darnold was way worse than JJ whenever he got there. Like, that's how everybody viewed him anyway.

[Big Cat]

Right. But maybe, like, maybe the jets and the Giants weren't terrible at evaluating quarterbacks. They were just really bad at taking care of them once they got them.

[Big T]

That's very fair.

[Big Cat]

And so maybe. Maybe Kevin o' Connell isn't a selector, he's just a. An improver. Yeah, but he hasn't done a very good job of improving jj.

[Big T]

No, but maybe he's not able to. Like, all I've seen is people say the game's too fast for jj.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, for nine, you mean. For nine. I love that he gave himself that nickname. When I put on this face paint, that's nine. That's coming out. That's not jj.

[Big T]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, well, stay tuned for more about jj. What else we have in the news today? Big T.

[Chaps]

Let's see. Zo Ron, Blocking the sun. Twitter, country of origin.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yeah, the locations that. I think a lot of people had a bad time this weekend.

[Chaps]

Turns out they're just all not in the United States.

[Big Cat]

And the crazy part is, like, I have no idea how many of those are real screenshots and how many are fake, because I'm sure that some people have faked them.

[Chaps]

Was the one. The one Aryan sent, was that fake?

[Big Cat]

Which one was that?

[Chaps]

Of you?

[Big Cat]

What did it say about me?

[Chaps]

You know, you don't read the text.

[Big Cat]

I might have missed that one.

[Chaps]

It showed that your account originated in Israel.

[Big Cat]

That one is not true.

[Chaps]

Which I'm assuming is a joke about.

[Big Cat]

My account originated in Austin, Texas.

[Chaps]

It does say based in United States.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but it.

[Chaps]

He. He must have done a great Photoshop on that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying. I bet a lot of people have done photoshops on. But, yes, there are a lot of people out there. It turns out that. That comment on politics in the United States that live in, like, uae, India, Bangladesh, Bangladesh.

[Chaps]

A lot of Bangladesh.

[Big Cat]

Bangladesh is. Yeah, they're getting after it Bangladesh.

[Big T]

Sneaky. Huge population.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What is it, like 300 million?

[Big T]

220. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

A lot of people there because it's easy to make money.

[Big T]

You just. You know what the highest population of any country in the world will be in 2050.

[Chaps]

Gonna surpass India.

[Big T]

It's going to surpass India right now. It would pass India and China. China will be like number five by that time.

[Big Cat]

Indonesia.

[Big T]

No, close, though. It is not really close. Nigeria. Oh, Nigeria has the. One of the youngest population. Their average person in Nigeria is 14.8 years old, whereas, like Japan, the average person, 65. The United States, the average person is like 48. So Nigeria's population is exploding and it's younger and younger and younger.

[Big Cat]

They have the resources.

[Big T]

They're getting the resources. Their education system. Them and Botswana have really put in a lot of work as far. Like, Botswana had huge diamond reserves that were found, gold that was found, and they've primarily put it back into their education system. So they are really revamping the roads. Like, the guy there now is being called, like, the FDR of Botswana. Like, he's. He's putting in, like, road systems. He's doing more schools, like library systems. They're trying to have trains. Like, that whole area of Africa is really exploding and, like, the economies are blowing up in part because they're able to get a lot of their product out more. Because China is so involved in building so many ports in Africa.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then they get to retain, like, partial ownership of those ports. Is that what. Yeah, the belt and road thing that they're doing. I did not know that about. About Nigeria, but I did see a lot of accounts that were allegedly founded in Nigeria. It's just so easy to make money stirring shit up in US Politics.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like that guy, what's his name? Ian Miles Chong. Yeah, that guy. Yeah. I don't think he's ever been to the United States.

[Big T]

His was in uae, Right.

[Big Cat]

His was in uae. But he's, like, addicted to commenting.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

On stuff that goes on.

[Big T]

Get out of my country. It's like, dude, you've never even been here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's really strange. Very strange. But that's what happens when you, like, monetize interactions online is like, you're going to get people that.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That are pretending to be people that they're not.

[Big T]

The Republicans against Trump account was from Canada.

[Big Cat]

Was it really?

[Chaps]

Yeah, I thought it was Australia.

[Big T]

I think it was Canada.

[Chaps]

Something.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chaps]

It's a. Similar countries.

[Big Cat]

It's a hack. It's just like pretend to weigh in on stuff and then get people pissed off online.

[Big T]

I don't. What do you think the motivation? Because Musk had to know that. Like, the Twitter had to have known that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Why would they do. That's what was confusing about. Because he's on that side of politics. Like, why would they do that?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Chaps]

Wait, reveal.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

You think it was disadvantageous for them to reveal it?

[Big T]

For the Musk and the conservative side? Yes. Like.

[Chaps]

Oh, I don't think so.

[Big T]

I think that was primarily the accounts that were released was on the conservative side.

[Chaps]

Some. But I think everyone wants to know. Like, I think you should be able to filter by. Like, I only want to see accounts from the United States.

[Big T]

I totally agree. I'm on board with them doing what they did. I'm surprised that they did it.

[Chaps]

I don't think it was a particularly partisan thing. Like, I saw both.

[Big T]

Yeah. But I feel like there has been, like, a lot of the bigger accounts.

[Chaps]

Not even inherently political, but I saw a lot of the, like, manliness, wisdom.

[Big T]

We took off the Tate brothers.

[Chaps]

Yes. Those were all over. But, like, I think everyone, for the most part, is in agreement. Like, if you're talking about American politics and you're from Bangladesh, I don't give a shit what you think.

[Big T]

I think you're right. Do they have that where you can.

[Chaps]

I don't. I haven't seen it, but I would. That seems like a logical.

[Big T]

Right.

[Chaps]

Next step from this.

[Big T]

Yeah. Block everybody that doesn't originate from the United States.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Now, is this.

[Big T]

You can do it on Etsy.

[Big Cat]

Is this being walked back?

[Chaps]

Because I saw that they did it for, like, a minute, took it off, and then they put it back on, and it's been up for days, I think.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah.

[Big T]

I think one of the bigger Photoshop one was the dhs, the Department Security, being from Israel, it.

[Big Cat]

Was that real?

[Big T]

No, I don't think so. Like that. Because that one, it popped up in 2008. Like, that's when that account started.

[Big Cat]

I didn't think that it was real.

[Big T]

And.

[Big Cat]

But then I saw a lot of other people being like, oh, my God, I swear this is real. I checked it and I saw it and I was like, I don't. It sounds like a joke.

[Big T]

I fucking hope not. Like, because that would be wild. Because that was in the Obama administration. 2008 was still. He didn't leave office until 2009.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Or. No, he got in office in 2009.

[Chaps]

Obama kind of made Twitter popular, so.

[Big T]

That would be late. Bush presidency 2008.

[Mad Dog]

The Homeland Security Twitter is based in the United States.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's what I figured, because it. It was too much, like, on the nose of a. Like a joke. We're owned by the Israeli government. That'd be shocking if it was true. If the Twitter account was based on.

[Big T]

Yeah, that would be shocking. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. J.J. mcCarthy's in the concussion protocol, per Kevin O'. Connell. Reported symptoms on the flight home last night.

[Big T]

I feel like you got to do that to save face.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's a smart.

[Chaps]

My belt got rung.

[Big T]

How many times can somebody turn the light down? I'm a little sensitive to it for some reason.

[Big Cat]

Well, the crazy thing is, like, you could probably take any NFL player after any game, and he could probably find a symptom that was similar to a concussion.

[Big T]

Probably.

[Big Cat]

Right. Like, I don't want to look at these lights right now. I'm having a hard time focusing. I feel that way after podcasts.

[Chaps]

Sometimes the lights are bright on a you. And I Know this is champagne problems, but people don't appreciate. These are bright lights.

[Big T]

They really don't.

[Chaps]

Yeah, and these aren't bad. It's the. It's in the cave. When you watch a football game for four hours and those are beaten on you, that's when. Pause. That's when it's real bad.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Do we have any voicemails today?

[Mad Dog]

We do.

[Big Cat]

Let's check in on the. On the people out there.

[Chaps]

By the way, in the time we've been recording, Tennessee just played one of the greatest halves of basketball.

[Big Cat]

Dominating in my Life.

[Chaps]

Dominating Rutgers 56 to 30 at the break. Jacoby Gillespie is going bananas.

[Big Cat]

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It's John from Massachusetts. I have a hypothetical for you guys. So if you include every species, there's an estimated 20 quadrillion ants in the world. If they all came together with the common goal of overthrowing the US Government, do you think that they could. And if so, how far could they go from there? I definitely think yes. Just because of the sheer numbers, the fact that they're trained in warfare. And how would we destroy them without destroying ourselves? Thank you.

[Big T]

But I'm pretty sure that was Billy's voice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's, that's a great question. How would we stop them? I think a really big magnifying glass.

[Big T]

Yeah. Fire.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Water.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, water. We just become aquatic. I think they could, I think they could do it.

[Big T]

What, ants?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

No.

[Big Cat]

20 quadrillion?

[Big T]

No.

[Big Cat]

What if, what if they like simultaneously crawled their way into the electrical grid?

[Big T]

I mean we would just have to make like a 50 foot wall of fire around and they're not getting through it.

[Big Cat]

But we, we wouldn't know what was happening until it was too late, I think.

[Big T]

I feel like you can get fired pretty quick.

[Big Cat]

I think that if, if every ant like in on the eastern seaboard simultaneously decided to invade power plants and like just walk in, crawl into whatever giant transformers they have, their short circuit them, I think that, I think the ants could do it.

[Chaps]

So I'm seeing we just have to.

[Big Cat]

Burn down all of our infrastructure.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Then the ants are in charge.

[Big T]

No, I don't think so. I think we could fuck them up in a big way.

[Chaps]

I'm seeing that a mountain of 20 quadrillion ants would be about 830 meters tall. So that's what, 2500ft probably.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

And then 1.6 kilometers wide at the base. So a couple miles.

[Big T]

1.6 kilometers.

[Big Cat]

No, that's about one mile or kilometers shorter.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

Okay, so a mile.

[Big Cat]

I'm not, I, I don't think that them all getting together and like forming one giant mass.

[Big T]

I mean that would be terrifying just having 8 or 2500ft by a mile.

[Chaps]

World Trade Center, 1700ft.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it'd be, it'd be terrifying. That'd be terrifying. Pyramid of ants. Yes, I'll give you that. But I think they can be more strategic than that and like invade our important buildings.

[Chaps]

Are we, how smart are these ants? Like they're just regular ants. Right.

[Big Cat]

They're ants, but they're. They're working together. Like whatever instinct is in them that. That tells them we are enemy, attack enemy.

[Chaps]

And when he says overthrow the US Government, you could cause a significant amount of damage. I don't know what you're installing. Once you.

[Mad Dog]

How are they going to run it?

[Chaps]

Other like, you could. 20 quadrillion ants could probably overwhelm and kill a bunch of people.

[Big T]

Oh, for sure.

[Chaps]

But I don't know what you're doing after that.

[Big Cat]

I think they're probably enacting massive subsidies for high fructose corn syrup.

[Chaps]

I think the better question is how many people could 20 quadrillion ants kill?

[Big T]

Yeah, how many. How many people are you running through before the last one stomped out?

[Chaps]

And how do you. Let's say they form a mountain like that, right? Like you can't shoot it. That's not doing anything.

[Big T]

Shoot it. I think without.

[Big Cat]

Let's.

[Big T]

I think a more interesting. Without weapons, how many humans would it take to beat that amount of ants?

[Chaps]

A lot.

[Big T]

I feel like a lot.

[Chaps]

2500Ft tall. I mean, they could just cover like, Manhattan.

[Mad Dog]

But could you spray them with like, no.

[Big T]

No weapons?

[Chaps]

Well, we can have a spray.

[Big T]

No, just like an exterminator.

[Big Cat]

What if we trapped a shitload of spiders and then sent the spiders to take the ants out?

[Chaps]

I don't know. That's. We may have just found the worst way to die. 20 quadrillion ants.

[Big T]

I think you got to get some chameleons in there.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Some lizards.

[Big T]

Yeah. You throw some lizards down, people would.

[Big Cat]

Choke to death on ants. They would suffocate on ants.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I was in a fantasy book I was reading recently about spiders.

[Big Cat]

They teamed up.

[Big T]

Yeah. That somebody's, like, superpower was sending out spiders where spiders go into every orifice in your body and you can feel them stinging, like, inside.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's say hypothetically, this giant pyramid of ants was in the middle of a highway and there was no cars on the road. You had your car, and you were driving 100 miles an hour at the pyramid of ants. How far into the pyramid of ants would you.

[Chaps]

I think they would stop your car, like, immediately. Not immediately, but do you think you.

[Big Cat]

Would die in the wreck?

[Chaps]

I mean, how deep is it?

[Big Cat]

It's 1.6 km wide.

[Big T]

Mass of that ants isn't going to be that heavy.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Big T]

Quadrillion, like, because you're not doing 20 quadrillion in a cube. Like, if you're doing it over the course of Period of time. I don't feel like they're dense enough to make that. Make you stop.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How much would that pyramid weigh?

[Big T]

I feel like. I feel like a car, like a bronco could go infinitely through no matter how many ants there are.

[Big Cat]

Just driving straight through the ants.

[Big T]

Yeah. I think that that wouldn't be an issue just because the. Like, you. Well, they wouldn't weigh that much if.

[Big Cat]

It'S as tall as the World Trade center and it's all ants. It does push down to use some force, but. Yeah. How much would that weigh? That's a big question.

[Chaps]

So you need about 150,000 ants to get to a pound. So 20 quadrillion divided by 150,000 is 133 billion pounds.

[Big Cat]

That's pretty heavy.

[Big T]

Yeah. Total, though, like that's not in an individual spot. Yeah. Like if you had. So if it's that high, I. I feel like you can drive through it.

[Big Cat]

I think it'd be fun.

[Big T]

Oh, I would sign up in a second.

[Big Cat]

What if you just did like a belly flop into the pyramid?

[Big T]

Like if you knew that it was going to be completely encapsulated, driving through a pyramid of ants would be ultimate time.

[Big Cat]

I agree.

[Chaps]

So we're assuming you're going through the mile of ants.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

There's no chance you get through that.

[Big T]

You don't think so?

[Chaps]

I don't think so. £130 billion of ants.

[Big T]

Yeah. I think you're. I think you're cruising.

[Chaps]

I don't. I don't think so.

[Big T]

I think you're.

[Chaps]

And by the way, that's. That's 1.6m or a mile. 1.6km if you had it that tall. Let's take it down to the height of your car.

[Big T]

I feel like that's even easier. I think the height would add poundage on top. But if you're going as far as you possibly can into just ants, I feel like you're going a long way.

[Chaps]

This is an inconceivable number of.

[Big T]

Ask ChatGPT.

[Chaps]

That's what I did. Can you. About driving through it?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Could you drive a cyber truck through the giant pyramid of ants? And if not, then what? What good is that car?

[Big T]

This is what ChatGPT should be used for.

[Big Cat]

I agree.

[Big T]

Not cheating on some law test.

[Chaps]

Could I drive a cybertruck through the giant pyramid of ants or would they stop me? It's thinking. Short answer. You could probably drive a cybertruck through a giant mountain of ants. Yeah. They would not stop you physically, but let's Break it down realistically and safely. Tesla Cybertruck weighs about 6,800 pounds.

[Big T]

It's amazing that it can give you an answer like, about something like that.

[Big Cat]

And it's probably wrong, but that's fine.

[Chaps]

Even if you imagine them all packed together, they can flow around objects. They do not interlock like rocks. They cannot create a solid barrier. Even ant bridges, extremely strong for their size, collapse instantly under large loads. So Chat's telling me that it thinks you could drive through.

[Big T]

Yeah, Hell yeah.

[Big Cat]

What song would you want to be playing on the radio as you drove through the giant ant pyramid?

[Big T]

Ants marching, obviously.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chaps]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I was gonna say Allman Brothers.

[Chaps]

Fortunate son.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Fortunate Son would be a good one.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Rambling man would be good. Okay, that's. That's a good question. Though. I still. I stand by the fact that I think that they could overthrow temporarily. They'd overthrow the government, kind of like the government was overthrown and live free or die hard. Not familiar where the grid goes down. Hackers take down the grid. I think they could do that. They could, yeah.

[Big T]

They can cause structural damage, for sure.

[Big Cat]

They. Widespread chaos. But once you give the ants the levers of power, I don't think they'd be able to use them correctly. Yeah, you know, I don't know if ants could. They wouldn't have the teamwork necessary to drive our machines of war or fly.

[Big T]

God, I would love to give that a try.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, I do too.

[Big T]

What? What do you think that as you progress bigger and bigger into insects? I don't think you could do the same size of grasshoppers.

[Big Cat]

No, no, grasshoppers.

[Chaps]

Have a little.

[Big Cat]

You can feel a grasshopper on your hand.

[Big T]

Crickets. No, roaches. No.

[Mad Dog]

Oh, God, no roaches. Could actually overthrow the government and then.

[Big T]

Install a new one, because then you got to really fuck them up for them to die.

[Big Cat]

Butterflies. Yes. You would fuck up the pyramid of butterflies.

[Big T]

Oh, without a doubt.

[Big Cat]

I got. I got tariff the other day. Did I tell you guys about this? So went. Went through the kids museum was with Beef and Kate and the kids. We walked through the kids museum and they've got a butterfly exhibit there in the butterfly exhibit we're walking through, and I'm talking to the person that's, like, overseeing the. The butterfly house. And I'm like, this is a lot of butterflies. How many do you think are in here at once? And the person tried to estimate. They're like, I think it's probably like a couple thousand, but it's about half the size that used to be, you know, because of the tariffs. And I had no idea that I was going to get the tariff excuse.

[Big T]

Yeah, I wouldn't expect that at the.

[Big Cat]

Butterfly sanctuary, but apparently they're. They're terrorists. They're slapping tariffs on butterflies now.

[Big T]

Where are you importing butterflies from? I don't know.

[Big Cat]

It honestly opened up a lot of questions that I did not expect to be pondering.

[Big T]

Well, the monarch trail starts in. That starts in Canada.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

But it goes all the way through San Antonio and into Mexico.

[Big Cat]

Right. We've got a ton of butterflies here in the United States. The tiger swallowtail, I think that's my favorite. But yeah, the monarch is nice.

[Big T]

Yeah, the monarchs, probably. That's the crown jewel. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But, yeah, what's. I didn't think I was going to get tariff there. No, but you live and you learn. We have any more voicemails?

[Voicemail Caller]

Hey. Hey, Macrodosian, how are y'? All? This is Mark from Houston, Texas. I had a question for the baseball nerds. The baseball fans. So I've been watching football since. I'm 31 now. I've been watching football since I was in sixth, seventh grade. You know, I can talk it, you know.

[Big Cat]

Wait, can you pause it real quick? So we had a. We had a sitting congressman on the show last Wednesday, Pat Ryan from, from New York. And Big T hit him with the 6, 7 hands in the middle of him talking.

[Chaps]

Yeah, well, he did.

[Big Cat]

He said six, seven, and then he was like, are you guys. Is this not. Are you guys not following what I'm saying? Like he was confused.

[Chaps]

He thought we couldn't hear him.

[Big T]

Yeah. And he's got to know that you.

[Big Cat]

Got to know that.

[Big T]

You got to know.

[Chaps]

I was just 6, 7 brother. He was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My, my kid.

[Big Cat]

Also, before we get to the rest of this voicemail, chaps, what do you think about his idea that he, like, he kind of soft launched us on a giant. Giant idea.

[Chaps]

We all kind of shit on him.

[Big Cat]

We all kind of shit on him for various reasons. But his idea was compulsory service to the United States after graduating from high school for what do you say, like one to two years?

[Chaps]

I think he said a year.

[Big Cat]

A year. Not necessarily in the military. It could be teaching, it could be building houses, but. But service to the United States, that is mandatory one year after graduating high school. He's considering pitching a program like that.

[Big T]

I am a thousand percent in on that.

[Big Cat]

A thousand percent in. Okay.

[Big T]

I think that it creates a buy in to the country. Like, I, I feel like Whenever you have some kind of service aligned like that, you are, I don't want to say more invested, but you're more invested in what happens there. Like for instance, my how I feel about the military, I don't think I would feel as strongly about certain things if I didn't have that experience. And two, I think that it builds responsibility. It gives you a job that you're not responsible to your parents for. Like it has. Like, if you are grew up an affluent kid, all of a sudden you're working in situations, it builds empathy. Like, you see people from all varying types of backgrounds that you normally wouldn't like. The amount of different types of people that I met while I was in the military hasn't been close, no matter what other industry I'm involved in. So if you have somebody that grew up with a family that makes $300,000 a year, or you have a family that only had 25,000, $30,000 a year, you are learning and working alongside those same type of people in the same entry level where you are really have an equal playing field. Like, I feel like that's one of the beauties of the military is that you start, you're an E1. Like whenever you start, you're an E1 across the board. No matter where your family's station was or anything like that, you have that entry level of work, of work ethic. And I do feel like it improves your work ethic too. Whenever you have a job that you are reliable. For now, the only thing that really keeps you going military that way is the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You're probably not going to have that same thing if you're working in a municipality. Municipality?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Municipality.

[Big T]

Yeah. Like if you're working in that area, you're probably not doing the same level there. But I feel like it is good and I think it should be student loans, things like that. Like you have more skin in the game. Like you think about all the people that you know that are homeowners that are 40 years and younger. Most people aren't because they can't afford it. I would venture to say most of the people that we know that are under 40 that have homes have some type of military connection. Like, unless they're making really good money. I bought my first home, I was 25 years old. That is unheard of. If you're not in the military because you get the GI Bill, like if you get, if you have those types of incentives for everyone, one, you make buying a home much more realistic and affordable. If I was the military now, that would be my primary. No one in your neighborhood, none of your friends own a home, but you can at the end of your service.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I think that you make a lot of good points and I don't disagree with a lot of them that like, you get more buy into your community. It's valuable, it's a good thing to do, and it gives you a good perspective on the world that you would not get if you hadn't done that. I, we also told him, like, I don't think that this is, like, it's not necessarily the time to, to try to pitch that because I feel like most people growing up don't feel the need to give back to their country right now if they're going into a job market that's not great, into a future that's financially uncertain, and you don't have a lot of opportunity in a lot of places. Telling them, okay, now you also have to work for us for a year would be a tough sell right now.

[Big T]

No. And, but I think that that could be how there is like, you bring people. Because when I was in the military, nobody talked about politics.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Like there was like every now and then I didn't know a vast majority of people that I work with were Democrats, Republicans. It didn't matter. You had like a joint job that you have to do. So I feel like bringing people together in that way is very beneficial.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

For folks. But I. Another point, like, as far as service goes, I feel like the thank me or thank you for your service culture is dying. Within the next two years, I think it'll be completely dead. And I, I feel like now think about even conservative communities like Charlotte. I feel like ICE is going to destroy every single piece of goodwill that there is for anybody in camouflage flush because they're gonna see like this. The, like my kids age, for example, in middle school. They don't know what 911 was like. They don't know what any of that was like. The only people that they're going to see in uniform is going to be people in guns and mask outside their schools. Yeah. I feel like that, that is gonna do big time damage for people that wear camouflage for, for a living, whether that's military, police, ICE agents, customs, tsa, whoever. I feel like it's going to be a bad thing for that.

[Big Cat]

Did you hear about the, the Blackhawk raid?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Or no, ME was Apache helicopter.

[Big T]

It was a Blackhawk.

[Big Cat]

Blackhawk in, in Chicago.

[Big T]

Yeah. And they went down and zip tied kids. There was like kids that were naked, they were zip tied together and they didn't have a single charge.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Then they just didn't press any charges at all. That's crazy that.

[Big T]

I mean it's happened over and over.

[Big Cat]

And over again in a neighborhood. A Blackhawk helicopter lowered in next to it. Was it a house or an apartment?

[Big T]

It was an apartment complex.

[Big Cat]

And then people got out, ran in, zip tied people and then didn't. And then nobody got like actual charges.

[Big T]

Yeah. Tase and dads with babies in their arms and shit. It's insane.

[Big Cat]

It's wild. Like a black, a fucking Blackhawk helicopter. Crazy shit. I think that it's just, it's, it's a tough sell right now. It would be a tough sell to kids coming out of high school. They don't know if they're going to have jobs when they graduate. They don't know. Like they've been told AI is probably going to screw up the entire job market over the next 20 years. And then I, I think it could be worth it if you incentivize it correctly. If you do things like yeah, a.

[Big T]

GI bill for it or like that's the only way I think it makes sense is if you. One, I think that's the purpose of the government, like the purpose of taxes, the like is to improve your life. Like the government should be about improving its citizens lives. And if you could work for the government, improve people's lives around you and get something for yourself like health care, like college education. There's so many different things. Like here in, in Chicago I pay infinitely more, so much more money on taxes. But we get stuff like there's the park system is great, like the school system is so good of where I live. Like 90% of the tax of where I live goes to the education of the kids.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And that elevates everything around you. Like there are so many things that the government should be doing. And I feel like if you have more people that are in those positions that are making what is realistically going to be like entry level wages. But I do feel like it make, it could make your society a lot better. And think about the countries that do it. Like Norway does it, Sweden does it, South Korea does it, Japan does it. There's a lot of countries that have a lot of good things, especially socialized medicine that are doing compulsory service.

[Big Cat]

If you look at it like, like a new deal. Yes, I could see it being a good thing. But he, I, I think he's still in like the very early stages of It.

[Big T]

No, I. Yeah, Seth Mullen is another big advocate for that, too. He's a. I think he's. He's from Massachusetts. Yeah. I'm not against it by any means.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's jump back to this guy's voicemail.

[Voicemail Caller]

I can rattle off what players wouldn't make sense on certain teams. Etc, Etc. You know, I'm a huge fan, and recently, whenever Aaron decided to get into baseball, I was like, you know what? Let me. Let me give it a shot. You know, So I started watching it. I don't have a team right now. You know, I just. The World Series was great, but how do you handle. Or how. How should I handle talking about baseball casually with, like, my friend group? I can either be quiet and hear them listen or, like, should I not say anything and just let them talk it out? You know, like, what are some. What are some things I should know as an early beginner fan, you know? But, yeah, hopefully that makes sense. I appreciate it. Love the show and since day one and have a great day. Thank you.

[Chaps]

I forgot we were in the middle of a voice.

[Big T]

I did, too.

[Big Cat]

For the baseball nerds.

[Big T]

Can I answer this one?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

I feel like when I went, the All Blacks helped me with perspective here.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Big T]

I didn't know dick about rugby. And I think typically, you go in, you'll be like, oh, well, let me learn some things and act like I know a little bit. I went with a guy who knows a bunch about rugby. He's played, like, his whole life, watches it every weekend, and I just fired off questions, and he was more than happy to answer. I feel like a lot of times we get too nervous to say that we don't know something about sports.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Like to be like, cover two. Yeah. Yeah, dude, I totally know that they're running.

[Big Cat]

You don't want to be casual.

[Big T]

Yeah. Like, and I. And instead, now, where I probably would have done that growing up and be like, Aaron, can you explain what they mean here by Cover2? Yeah, you know, like, I. I feel like if you ask people, that garners more respect than acting like you know something that you clearly don't.

[Big Cat]

That's a good point, Big T. You have any. Any advice?

[Chaps]

Yeah, I like that. I mean, do whatever you want. If you know enough to talk to people about baseball, do it.

[Big Cat]

If you don't, would you recommend getting heavy into a video game?

[Chaps]

Oh, I do love playing MLB the show. I think it gives you a good. A good historical sense of the game as well, because there's a. Most of the Cards are like former players.

[Big T]

Video games is how I learned New York City. Spider Man. I just started at Madison Square Garden and walked around.

[Chaps]

Nice. Yeah, it worked.

[Big Cat]

I. I feel like. I feel like video games, the more realistic they become, the more they can actually be used for things that they're not necessarily intended for. Like that, like getting to know a city.

[Big T]

Like me and Donnie want to do it for like locating different spots.

[Big Cat]

Grand Theft Auto is going to have like an entire world. The new Grand Theft Auto, they're just doing like a second life.

[Chaps]

Well, that game doesn't exist.

[Big Cat]

They're just writing. They're writing code for the entire world. And then you're going to be able to do GTA Quest in it.

[Chaps]

It's not real.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna have like a golf game inside of it. It's gonna have a flight simulator inside of it.

[Big T]

There's no way they make enough money to make that money back. Right? Where how long it's been being developed and the amount of people working on, there's no way they make that much money back.

[Chaps]

But now it's so hyped. Like, I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Do you think it's too hype now?

[Chaps]

Yeah, I mean it's been how many years?

[Big T]

And then they just push it back to like mid-2026.

[Chaps]

I think it like next November.

[Big T]

That's crazy.

[Chaps]

Yeah, I'm convinced. It's just not even real. I'm not a Grand Theft Auto guy, but.

[Big Cat]

All right, good question. We have one more.

[Big T]

I'm not going back to college to be your friend.

[Chaps]

I'm going so I can get Uber One for students. It saves you on Uber and UberEats. I'm there for zero dollar delivery fee.

[Big Cat]

On cheeseburgers, up to 10% off smoothies and 6% Uber credits back on rides.

[Chaps]

Just to be clear, I'm there for savings, not whatever you think college is for.

[Mad Dog]

Get Uber one for students a membership.

[Big T]

To save on Uber and Uber eats.

[Mad Dog]

With deals this good, everyone wants to be a student join for just $4.99 a month. Savings may vary eligibility and member terms apply.

[Voicemail Caller]

So Macro Crew, this is Noah From Northern Virginia PFG shout out to 703. I got a quick hypothetical for you all, mostly for PFG and Big T is the big ball watchers, but for all of you as well. If you had the option or somebody told you that you could only watch your team and no other games in a particular league. Or you could watch the entire league but not your team's games for the rest of your life, which one would you choose? A big D. For example, somebody told you you could only watch Tennessee games for the rest of your life and no other college football games, or you have access to all of college football except for any Tennessee games for the rest of your life. Which one would you choose? Personally, I went to the University of Virginia.

[Big T]

Go.

[Voicemail Caller]

Who's big? UVA fan? So for football, I would definitely choose all of college football over watching Virginia games for the rest of my life. And for basketball, I'd go the opposite. I go Virginia basketball over the rest of college basketball. So, big T, curious to hear your thoughts on Tennessee and the Braves, of course. And then pft for the Commanders and your other DC sports in jmu, which you would choose if you choose your loyalty to your program or your team, or if you're a bigger fan of the league as a whole. Shut up and listen. Appreciate you guys. Stay handsome. Stay beautiful.

[Chaps]

This is the easiest question of all time. I don't give a shit about anybody else.

[Big Cat]

All Tennessee.

[Big T]

Yeah, I'm going all Jags, too.

[Chaps]

Like, I. Honestly, the NFL is the only one where I would even consider it because I don't even really care about the Falcons anymore. But, like, I don't really care about the rest of the NFL either. I care about the rest of college football and basketball to the extent that it relates to Tennessee. Like, I. Okay, if I never got to watch another, you know, Georgia, Alabama football game, I'd be just fine.

[Big T]

And baseball, you're watching everybody anyway.

[Chaps]

Yeah, baseball. It's not even a question.

[Big T]

You see every team come through Atlanta.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I would. I would go all of college football over jmu because if you're watching, you're not watching the best teams play.

[Chaps]

Yeah, I mean, that makes a little more sense. And Virginia, same thing.

[Big Cat]

Like, yeah, I would want to see the Big Dogs playing. And then in the NFL, I would watch Commander's games. I would take that. NHL Caps games, because I basically only watched Caps games until the playoffs, so that really wouldn't be too much of a change. And then basketball. Easy. The NBA at large over the Wizards. Oh, yeah, I don't watch Wizards games.

[Chaps]

Right.

[Big Cat]

I haven't watched Wizards games in, like 10 years. And it's a great choice that I made. So that changes nothing for the Wiz and Nats. Yeah, I would watch the Nats because then you get to see every other team come through. Although this. These playoffs were pretty awesome.

[Big T]

Now what. What team? If you could only watch one team across all sports or you could watch every Single sport or just one team? I think I would pick the Jags over and I could never watch any other sport.

[Big Cat]

I would. Yeah, I would do the same for the Commanders.

[Chaps]

That's actually tough.

[Big Cat]

Get to see the NFC East.

[Big T]

Yeah. The only other one that I think would be worthwhile and it would have been my answer if I was still a big baseball guy, was baseball. Just because you're going to have 162 nights that you can watch.

[Chaps]

That's what I'm thinking. Like, the answer has to be Tennessee football. But that's 12 games.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

The Braves, you get 162.

[Big T]

Right. And that takes up all the way.

[Chaps]

From every night from April to November.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Chaps]

I mean, it has to be Tennessee football. Still, like, man, I don't know if that's actually. That's a better question.

[Big T]

I think I take the Jags and don't watch anything else.

[Chaps]

But, man, those 12 games, you'd be so.

[Big T]

Oh, my God.

[Big Cat]

All in.

[Big T]

You'd be tailgated.

[Chaps]

I mean, New Mexico State would be one of the biggest days of go, baby.

[Big T]

But that would make that win even more fun. You know, like you're stomping somebody to 73. You're like, yeah, what a. What a day, baby.

[Big Cat]

Every play means so much. Yeah, you'd. You'd re. Watch every game.

[Chaps]

I mean, last week when we played New Mexico State, I was like, this is the. I didn't even have sound on. On the game like it was.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's a good question, though.

[Big T]

But I feel like you got to go baseball. If you're like, anywhere close there, if they're close for you, I think you gotta go.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Just. Just based on that's. That's going to get you through a summer. Yeah, there's a lot of it.

[Big T]

You're a big NBA head. I could see you going basketball, too. Yeah. Just because there's so many. Hockey. I guess football really is the worst answer of all of this. Like the other major sports. Even if it. Even if your major sport is like.

[Big Cat]

The Premier League, especially if you start to. To focus in on how much actual game time you get to watch.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

11 minutes per game or whatever.

[Chaps]

Premier League Soccer might actually be the correct answer. Play a lot of games because you have two games a week for virtually the entire year. I mean, they never stop playing.

[Big T]

Yeah. Because then you're talking about the different cup teams that you would be able to watch, like Champions League, UEFA, like all those.

[Chaps]

I mean, they play August to May, sometimes into June. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. That's a good question.

[Big T]

That's fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Good question. All right, well, thank you guys for tuning in. I hope everybody has a happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy your turkey. Enjoy everything about it. Love you guys.