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Arian Foster
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Arian Foster
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Arian Foster
They're saying that Jeffrey Epstein was banned from Xbox Live.
Big T
So this was in the same, like, release. Yeah.
Arian Foster
Yeah. So.
Big T
So did he.
Arian Foster
Did he get banned from Xbox Live?
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Arian Foster
All right, welcome back to another edition of Nano Dosing. PFT is out of the office. He's doing super bowl shit, and he's in San Francisco living that Cali life. So it's me, Big T, Maddy Mack, and we're all remote. And how y' all doing? How's your week? This is the first weekend without football since, like, summer, right?
Big T
Yeah.
Arian Foster
How did everybody Fair.
Big T
Did they do the Pro Bowl?
Arian Foster
That's not football. That's.
Big T
No, but I'm. I'm as. I don't know.
Eric
I don't think so. I saw an Instagram post from the NFL saying the Pro Bowlers have arrived in San Francisco. I think it's on. I think it's tomorrow, today. Like, Tuesday.
Big T
They're doing it as part of the super bowl week now. That's fine.
Eric
Well, because it's also. Isn't it flag football?
Big T
Yes. It's a joke.
Arian Foster
It shouldn't be.
Eric
It's being played on Tuesday at the Moscone center, so it's not like it's at, like, a indoor place, I believe.
Big T
Although, Arian, there was one football game, I watched part of it, the Senior Bowl Shout Out. Did you. Did you play in that?
Arian Foster
No, I was. I didn't take my Senior bowl story.
Big T
I was having maybe, but I don't remember.
Arian Foster
So when I was coming out originally, when I was coming out, my. My draft grade was I was going. Supposed to go from anywhere from the second to fourth round, right? But my agent was like, yo, you got to go to the Senior Bowl. You know, there's some questions about this, this, that. And I was like, I bet. So for the running backs, I think it was me. I don't remember who was there, but so I'm having a great week of practice, like, killing this shit, right? The linebacking court I would go against every day is Brian Cushion, Clay Matthews, Ray Maluga, right? Two, first round, the second rounder. Like, great group of guys to compete against. Like, I'm the only One there that can actually stick him. Like, I'm blocking well, I'm running well. So my agent comes back and says, hey, like, I'm having scouts come up to me saying that they had no idea that you were just good. He's like, just keep doing what you're doing. The last day, on the. The last practice, full practice before the game, on the last drill, we were doing some live stuff. My man Pat White. My man Pat White, hope he's doing well. So we call a play in the huddle. The play is called fake draw. Right? Screen right. That's what the play is called. He's supposed to fake the draw to me, and he supposed to throw me a screen. Well, he just hands it off to me and. And I fumble, right? Well, technically, right, because I wasn't supposed to get the ball. So I'm faking it. I'm supposed to do a scream. So it bounces off my chest. So I'm like, you know, I gotta get some scrambler.
Eric
Get it.
Arian Foster
I bend over to get it, and my. My foot is planted in the ground and dude comes behind me and, like, pushes me in the back hardest. And, like, my hamstring, like, snaps. It's like a grade 2 or 3 hamstring pool. So I couldn't go to the. Couldn't play in the Senior bowl that up my combine. Couldn't. Couldn't do anything in the combine except for lift. Then my pro day, I was still hurt from it. And that's why we get the residual. He runs a 4, 6, 4, 7.
Big T
I do remember that now. I was thinking that was the Pro bowl, but I do remember you saying that now.
Arian Foster
Yeah. Yeah. But, hey, it all worked out. You know, I got a podcast with Connor now.
Big T
Shout out.
Arian Foster
Shout out to Connor.
Big T
I'm looking at the running backs from the 09 Senior Bowl. Andre Brown, Rashad Jennings, James Davis, Antone Smith.
Arian Foster
I remember those guys now. Sean Jennings ended up playing some. Playing pretty well with the Giants, if I recall correctly.
Big T
Tony Fiametta, Cedric Pierman.
Arian Foster
Cedric Pearman.
Big T
Oh, my player. Eric Catani from Navy.
Arian Foster
We was laughing at Cedric Pierman at the combine because, like, you know, you know, you do the. You do the bench, right? And so we all. We all just lined up doing a bench, and he literally takes, like, 10 minutes before he starts to lift. And, like, there's no time, right? There's no clock. And so we just sitting there and he's, like, sitting on the bench, goes. He's getting ready, doing this, and, you know, first for first 30 seconds. You psych yourself. That's normal. But he did this for like, I was like five, 10 minutes. It was wild. We were just all just sitting there, scout, just looking around. It was the, it was the wildest thing he.
Big T
Did he do well?
Arian Foster
Yeah, he did like 27 or something like that. Pretty. Yeah, but it was just mad exaggerated. It was funny. Who's joking on you? Well, that was only football on.
Big T
Yeah, I watched like five minutes of the Senior Bowl.
Arian Foster
Anybody stand out?
Big T
Tyree west from UT made some good plays in the time I was watching. They had. Who was the quarterback that was playing? I don't remember now, but do you.
Arian Foster
Feel any allegiance to X balls? Like when you're watching them, are you rooting for them?
Big T
Yeah, like, I want them to do well. Unless they, I mean, in this day and age, like, it's rare that you have someone that starts and finishes at one school. So like, it's. I don't like guys who started at UT and left. I, I like guys who came to UT as transfers, but it's not the same. Like this year, Colton Hood is going to be a first round pick and like, he played at UT for one year and we weren't great. So it's like, yeah, I hope he does well, but I would never like, you know, buy a ticket to go watch him.
Arian Foster
Did you see that Michael Irvin rant?
Big T
You're gonna have to be more specific.
Arian Foster
Yeah, he doesn't rant a lot. The, the, he was kind of ranting about how the portal system and how kids are moving in college now. It kind of takes away their fight. But he, he said it in a really. I was, I'd probably say dope way, because I do, I do, I do kind of agree. Although I, I do agree, like, I'm split brain. Like, I understand kids need the options that the coaches have. Like, it's, that's, that's what it is. But that notion does take away a little bit because he was like, you didn't see it? Hold on, let me, let me find.
Big T
I'm sure I did. I don't, I mean, I, I agree.
Arian Foster
Yeah, but he, he went off, he said it so passionately and it was so dope. That is, that is kind of split on that because I think kids should be able to have the, the same level, but it's not for everybody. I think, I think there are.
Big T
Well, to be fair, coaches have buyouts in their contracts that if they want to switch jobs, another employer has to pay. Whereas these kids can just at the drop of a hat, do whatever they want.
Arian Foster
So who, so they, the coach would have to pay back money if they want to switch jobs.
Big T
Yeah. So when, when Lane Kiffin gets hired at lsu, he has a. I don't know what the number was, but whatever his buyout was at Ole Miss, that LSU has to pay Ole Miss to buy him out of his contract, whereas these kids don't. There's nothing holding them anywhere. They can move willy nilly wherever they want.
Arian Foster
That would be the fault of the contract then.
Big T
Well, it's. So actually, I don't know if you've seen this, but there's a couple that schools have started trying to enforce that may have some teeth to them. Like Damon Williams. He's a quarterback at Washington. Maybe a month ago he announced, he's like, I'm entering the portal. Washington was like, no, you're not. We have a contract that says you're going to play here. And I guess his lawyers looked at it and were like, yeah, you're not getting out of this. And so he said, I'm, I'm coming back. So now, like, he's back at Washington. No, everyone knows he doesn't want to be there. Darian Minsa, who was at Duke, announced, I'm entering the portal. Duke said, no, you're not. And he somehow found a way to get out of it. Now there's. I think that's still going to be a legal battle, but he's going to Miami. So it's a whole thing. They need a CBA and it would all be fixed for the most part.
Arian Foster
Yeah, that, that, that, I don't know. Fix that. That would take a long time to negotiate things because there would have to be some kind of, like, Way to regulate it all that, like, just to get everybody on the same page. Players have to enter into it. That's, that's good.
Big T
Well, they have to be employees, which they still won't do, but I think in the next five years that will happen.
Arian Foster
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Big T
Epstein files.
Arian Foster
They back.
Big T
You've been looking at them?
Arian Foster
Not really. I saw one that had. So what came across my desk was Jay Z and Pusha T was in it.
Big T
Oh, I didn't see that.
Arian Foster
Yeah, but it was. So from my understanding. Well, I did. I looked at the link. They were in the Epstein files. But it was like, I think in 2008, 19 or 20 or something like that, there was an anonymous call from a homeless woman that said she was assaulted by somebody while Jay Z was watching in 1996 with Harvey Weinstein. And in 1996, Jay Z had just released his first album. He wasn't, like, famous like that. His first album didn't really even pop until his, like, second or third album. So it didn't really seem very credible. And the same. Same with Pusha T. Just the stories didn't line up with the dates that match. So the FBI on in the document said that they didn't deem it credible, so. But it was just like a phone call. There's no. There's nothing else. That's the only thing I saw. But like I said, I. I only get on Twitter when I'm. When I'm with y' all now. So I'm kind of out the loop with what's. What's been going on. So catch me up, dog.
Big T
I mean, it's hard to. You know, they just release here's 700,000 emails, go through them, and then you see screenshots. So it's. Some have come out, like, some that have gone viral have turned out to be fake. But the ones that seem to have caught on the most are. Bill Gates was asking about getting some antibiotics to help an STD he got from Russian hooker. I'm pretty sure that one was confirmed to be real. The. So this one. Dear Bill, I cannot believe you've chosen to disregard our friendship developed over the last six years. I am aware that accidents happen. It is how each of us has chosen to deal with this unfortunate event that has me dismayed beyond comprehension. It's. It's very long, but, yeah. So Bill Gates may have gotten an STD from a Russian hooker. Allegedly. Supposedly.
Arian Foster
Melinda is his wife's name. Yeah, Melinda a while back. This is like when they divorced. She was, like, kind of alluding to some of this, but not really confirmed. I mean, she. She didn't say exactly what happened, but she was kind of alluding to the fact that, like, yeah, I Ain't like a lot of stuff. And I remember her saying something like. What did she say? She said something about Epstein's like. I know, like his, his relationship was Epstein.
Big T
Is it Bill Gates who would go on like an annual vacation with his high school girlfriend?
Eric
Yes. Yeah.
Big T
And she'd be like, yeah.
Arian Foster
He goes once a year, sat up like, you ready for the go ahead? Let me know what you know.
Eric
I just, I don't want fake confirmation spreading about other people. That was.
Big T
The, the part of the email that talked about the std. It's at the bot. So I guess he and Epstein had some sort of a falling out. And Epstein said to add insult to the injury, you then implore me to please delete the emails regarding your std. You request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give to Melinda and the description of your penis. You also made it clear to me that I am not to refer to redacted as that is another topic that must remain between the two of us.
Arian Foster
Okay, now is this separate because in the same emails, well along the lines of the same timeline, they're saying that Jeffrey Epstein was banned from Xbox Live.
Big T
So this was in the same like release. Yeah, yeah.
Arian Foster
So. So did he, did he get banned from Xbox Live?
Eric
It does, it does seem that way.
Big T
It seems that he was playing Xbox. Yeah. Do you know what? Crazy. There's a tweet. I put it in there. It's from August 22, 2019. And this guy says, not sure what his gamer tag was, but Jeffrey Epstein had an Xbox Live account. And it's a, it's a screenshot of like when, when they send you an email that you have to put in a code or whatever to verify your thing. It says we need to verify your identity email jee vacationmail.com text so&so number. So I don't know how that got. I guess he, when the first round of emails came out, put that email address in everything you can to see if, you know, he had an account on whatever and found that he had an Xbox Live account. But yeah, he got banned for what? Whatever. The, the verbiage they use was harassing and threatening language or something. Can you imagine? I don't know. I don't know if he was actually playing or if it was just tied into a Microsoft account or what. But like if there were really 12 year olds playing Call of Duty with.
Arian Foster
Jeffrey Epstein, I mean back then was like 2010, 2011, probably around. That was prime area Call of Duty lobbies. I was I was, I was deep. I was knee deep in the trenches still.
Big T
When. So when you were like, height of your game, you were in playing cod. Oh, like online, just with strangers.
Arian Foster
I'm talking about Pro bowl, bro. I'm in a Pro Bowl. My. My gamer tag was Memoirs of the Sun. Memoirs of the sun. Popping off. Dirty kill streak type. You feel me?
Big T
Yeah, I'm trying to. So 2010, that would have been like the original Black Ops.
Arian Foster
I think that was Modern warfare.
Big T
Modern Warfare 2. And then I think 2010, the first black Ops came out.
Arian Foster
No, it was after. No, no. Yeah. Yeah, I think you may be right because what was the first one? Modern Warfare was the second game, and then Black Ops 3 came out.
Big T
I mean, they've done so many Black Ops in Modern Warfare now, it's hard to keep up. They're on Black Ops 9 now. I mean, it's outrageous.
Arian Foster
Yeah, no, I, I was neat. I was a. I was, I was on some of the OG ones, man. Arguing with little. With little racist kids on online as well.
Big T
Yeah, I remember Black Ops coming out in 2010 because I was in eighth grade and I, I saved up 60 bucks and I, I convinced my mom to let me get black. That was the first Call of Duty I was allowed to get. And then so she went and bought it and she was like, I, I like, you know when you bought the physical disc and on the back it had stuff from the game. It's like, she's like, it looks like real people are getting killed. I said, yeah, that's. That's the game.
Arian Foster
Well, not real people.
Big T
Well, yeah, but she was like, it looks real. I was like, lord willing in the creek don't rise. So that. So that was the first.
Arian Foster
What the. Is that. Is that same?
Big T
Yeah, it's like lord willing and the creek don't rise. As long as nothing goes wrong. It's like, it's like I'm planning on it.
Arian Foster
Oh, Lord willing and the creek don't. Oh, so the creek is.
Big T
If the creek rises, you're. You're gonna be flooded.
Arian Foster
Got you. Lord willing, in the creek don't rise. Never heard.
Big T
You've never. You never heard that living in. In the South?
Arian Foster
No. Lord willing and the creek don't rise. Lord willing, in the creek don't rise.
Big T
I've heard you like.
Arian Foster
It has a little ring to it. Yeah. Creek don't ride. You just cut out the too. That kind of. That kind of slap. Creek don't rise. What else is in these files? So I'm scrolling. I'm Just like on. Back on Twitter. This one was wild to me. So this was another email from. From Jeffrey, and I don't know who it's from. They have redacted who it's from.
Big T
So it's two.
Arian Foster
Jeffrey to Jeffrey. He said, when we come up next month, I'm thinking about bringing Blank and Blank with us. They're up for anything. You'll love them. Jeffrey says, not a good idea. But he says, why. He said Trump will be there. Doesn't like black girls, calls them boogers, won't go within 10ft. And the guy says, 10, 4. And this is. This is this. The title was called NYC Plans. I found that interesting. He's in there a lot.
Eric
This was. This was like the craziest drop because it has a lot of talking about women being used as incubators for Jeffrey and Ghislaine and women writing diary entries about having children with or for Jeffrey and Ghislaine and getting them ripped away from them. And they're like 16, 17 years old based on what people think. And this one was the one where it was, like, beyond my wildest comprehension of what elite of elite people. Even what human. Human minds could even come up with with like, crazy. Crazy. Again, granted, it's all confirmed to be real, but, like, cannibalism was in there.
Arian Foster
Cannibalism. I missed this part. What the.
Eric
There was one file again. I. I guess it's all. Allegedly. I don't. I don't know. But there was one where there was a baby that was killed.
Big T
Yeah.
Eric
And they. The people that were in attendance of this. I don't even know what you call it. Big TN event. I don't know, like, whatever gathering. They ate the feces out of the intestine of the baby. Allegedly.
Big T
And there was also there. President Bush was like, tied in with that one. And there was some President Bush senior.
Eric
George Bush won.
Big T
Oh, it was hw.
Eric
I believe from what I saw, it was hw.
Big T
Yeah, there was.
Eric
George Bush, too. Could be in there. And I just didn't see that part, but I saw a lot of things pertaining to hw.
Big T
I'm trying to read through this whole thing. Yeah, the. The thing that was that President Bush was in was like, really bad stuff. And I'm assume. I'm pretty sure this email was real. That's the thing is, like, some of these have come out and they're like, that's fake. So I don't want to. This one does have a link to justice.gov though. So this one is Real and it talks about there was a potential so this is it doesn't the sender and recipient are redacted. But on Tuesday, August 27, 2019, myself and SA conducted an interview of a purported victim of Jeffrey Epstein as per referral by former FBI sa so and so and journalist Michael Moore, not the filmmaker. The results are as follows. At 1200 hours, a male identified as redacted arrived at the C20 office. So and so stated he was unemployed and resides with his mother and her unemployed, morbidly obese boyfriend. That feels like a shot. Imagine that being your entry in the Epstein files. Blank stated he has ingested hallucinogenic mushrooms as well as other ellicent substances in the past and currently smokes marijuana. Reported being raped by his great uncle since the age of 5 years old until age 22. Described meeting Epstein at a yacht club in blank of of which his relatives remembers first at age 5 and later at age 8. Also states he was raped by Epstein in 2000 on a large yacht as well as by former US President William J. Clinton. States the current President Trump along with his wife Melania were present during the said yacht trip in 2000. Reports while being raped by Epstein and Clinton he was in heavy drug induced state. So that's Clinton. I thought Bush was in this.
Eric
HW.
Big T
Or it just said. It just said President Bush. Oh, there's a reply to the email. Thanks Blank. I didn't realize Bush raped him too. Okay.
Eric
Yes, I saw that as well. Yeah.
Big T
So I mean there's like real stuff in here.
Eric
I saw one about. I saw the one the doj. Arian, I don't know if you saw or big T. The DOJ had like victim statements basically or you know like accusations and they all. Most of this page that I'm referring to was Trump involvement and it was up for a little bit when the drop happened on it Friday or Saturday and then it was swiftly taken down by the DOJ. But it involved Trump, Musk, Don Trump Jr. Eric Trump, Ivanka, all of them. And one of them, it was a lot of Trump involvement and one of them was talking about how Trump was having or Trump forced a young 13 or 14 year old to have oral sex with him and then the victim bit him to like, I guess try to be like please get out. Yeah. And then I believe there was some sort of punishment after that, but things like that were taken down from the doj and I don't know why. Maybe that's because it was, you know, I don't know, maybe it Wasn't true. Maybe it's because Trump is our president, but, like, there was a lot of that involved as well. And I saw one. They found people on the Internet, found Jeffrey Epstein's again, allegedly Spotify account.
Arian Foster
And this guy's just playing video games, listening to music. What the.
Eric
And one of the playlists was titled again, allegedly, Allegedly. Allegedly was titled Selena. And people think that is referring to the Dubin family, their daughter. And the Dubin family is a billionaire family that sold their company to JP Morgan, which Jeffrey facilitated the sale of or introduced. Introduced Glenn Dubin, the father to the J.P. morgan executives. So they cut Jeffrey off $15 million for that. And they had three young children, and one of them was named Selena, and Jeffrey was all three of their godfathers. And it was said that Jeffrey wanted to marry one of the children, Selena. And after he got arrested for soliciting minors and prostitution of minors in 2006 is when he got a sweetheart deal. I believe the mother wrote an impact statement to try to get Jeffrey out of jail. And like, a character assessment saying that, I have three children under the age of 18. I understand that Jeffrey is a registered sex offender. I feel 100 comfortable with Jeffrey Epstein around my children. They are. They are his God children. And I feel 100 comfortable. And there's redacted photos of him on a plane with a young girl in his lap, like, cradling her. And people are suggesting that it could be the youngest child that Selena Dubin, that again, has the Spotify playlist, allegedly, and all of this stuff. And she seems like kind of a scapegoat for them. Like, she. They had, like, a breast cancer fund, and Jeffrey wanted to donate to it, but they said it would be a bad look to get a donation from a sex offender. So they set up a trust in the daughter's name, the Selena girl, to run through her. So basically, like, money laundering, her donations to this breast cancer fund through Jeffrey. It's like. It's just so. I just didn't know people operated like that. I just didn't know that your hu. The human mind could come up with so many ways to, like, torture and. And be vile and sick and terrible. And even if 25% of it is not true, or if. If 1% of this is true, there's 3 million documents that got released. If 1% of this is true, it's just the worst thing to happen in, like, human. Humankind. It's the scariest thing I've ever read in my life.
Arian Foster
Yeah, it's one of Them. Yeah, it's not good.
Big T
Whose mom was in there?
Arian Foster
No mom. Donnie Momdami's mom is in the Epstein files.
Big T
Was allegedly was at at least one party at Ghislaine Maxwell's house and seems to have potentially known them.
Arian Foster
Like, you know, yeah, this is where I said this, when this first, when Trump first said it, I was like, I kind of agree with what he's saying that releasing them, like, like, yeah, they should be released, but the, the damage that's going to be done by anything. Because if you cross paths with Jeffrey Epstein at all in a, in a very innocent way, you're forever implicated with all the acts that he's known to be.
Big T
There is some truth to that.
Arian Foster
And so, like, I understood what he was saying. I, I, and I don't know what to make of it. Right. There's just too much to take in. And there's two, like, there's just, if you're referenced in, in his emails, if you're referenced in, in this and this, that or the other, like, there's, there's no way to corroborate the majority of it. And so I, I think largely this is just going to go into conspiracy land and have, have a day. But it's just, this is just, this is just messy, I think. I think the government did a horrible job curating and releasing all of this. Like, this is, this is, this is, this is like the worst thing that could possibly happen to a society that is already on the brink of insanity. This just put fuel on a fire and for really no, no reason. Like, there's no prosecutions yet. There's no, there's no, Is there any, is there investigations into this? Does anybody know? Are they actually suing?
Big T
I don't think so, because it's either. All right, so somebody says they were raped by Bill Clinton. Well, they're not going to do anything to Bill Clinton. Whether that's true or not, you know, who knows? But, so I think the people are either too powerful for anything to happen, or it's going to be like you said, like, yeah, there are people who are mentioned in there. Do we know if they actually did anything wrong? No, you know, it just kind of, there's too much to, to do anything if you wanted to. So it's either going to be the people are too powerful or it's too ambiguous and nothing will happen.
Arian Foster
And this is, this is like that old adage, you know, hiding in plain sight. So it's kind of like, yeah, here's all the evidence and there's so much that you don't even know.
Mikey
You.
Arian Foster
You. There's nothing you can do about it. Yeah, it is a wild time to be alive right now.
Big T
And then when you come upon something that is, you know, legit and terrible, it. It gets retweeted 18, 000 times. And then the next day there's a new thing, and then nobody cares.
Arian Foster
The best place to hide a lie is between two truths.
Big T
All right, but wouldn't this be hiding truth among truths?
Arian Foster
I'm just. I'm just saying the. The saying, man, you could. You could.
Big T
What is that from.
Arian Foster
Saying? I heard it growing up all the time.
Big T
Oh. I thought it. It sounded like it was from a song or a show or something.
Arian Foster
No, I remember my dad used to say. My dad used to say, truth spoken at a season is just as good as a lie. And when I was younger, I was like, the. Are you talking about dad as I grow older? You are absolutely correct, my brother.
Big T
Yeah, there's. There's all sorts of stuff in there. Was that. Those were the main ones.
Eric
Elon Musk.
Big T
Oh, yeah.
Eric
Did you.
Big T
Did you.
Eric
In very odd ways.
Big T
They kind of. None of this is funny, but there was one exchange that was kind of funny where Elon Musk was like, hey, I'm coming. When's the party? And they were like, oh, we. We switched it. It's. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Eric
There was one where Ghislaine responded to him and said, elon Musk emailed Jeffrey and was like, hey, when's your guys next party? Would love for me and Tallulah to go down. And Jeffrey Epstein forwards it to Ghislaine.
Big T
And said, take care of. Take care of this guy.
Eric
And then Ghislaine just responds, we're actually shutting down all of Little St. James. Sorry. Like, we're just shutting down the whole island because you. Because you want to come to a party.
Arian Foster
So they. They didn't let him in.
Big T
I think they. They just kind of grew tired of being around him.
Arian Foster
That's wild. What the. So Elon's in the files trying to go to a party of Jeffrey Epstein.
Eric
And getting denied entry.
Arian Foster
And Elon, after Trump was on his bad side, said, Trump is in the Epstein files. That's why he don't want him released.
Eric
Well, now Elon is on Twitter saying he's innocent. And he was like, look at the emails. Even though there are multiple emails of him saying, I would like to come.
Big T
To your parties, it would actually be kind of Funny to be like, yes, I explicitly asked to go to Jeffrey Epstein's parties, but they wouldn't let me. So I'm innocent. You can see it right here. They hated me.
Eric
He's. He's in it multiple. Multiple times. Yes. Yeah. A lot of it is literally just like him asking, like, when's the craziest party? When can I come?
Arian Foster
He says, when's the craziest party?
Eric
One of the times he said, I want to come down. I think it was for New Year's. And he said, what night is the craziest party?
Arian Foster
Nah.
Eric
And that's not painting you in like.
Arian Foster
The most fantastic light that guilty.
Eric
Yeah.
Arian Foster
Wins the craziest part. Hold on. Because Epstein has been convicted before, right?
Eric
Yes.
Arian Foster
Were these emails before or after he was convicted?
Eric
After.
Big T
I think most of them are after the first time, cuz.
Eric
The what?
Big T
First time he got convicted, he got like a. A deal.
Eric
Sweet deal.
Big T
He was only in jail for what, like six months or so?
Eric
I believe it was third. I think the sentence was 13 months. But he might have only served sex or something.
Big T
Yeah. And he. Because that was a long time ago. That was like 2008 or something.
Eric
2006 was when the deal was.
Big T
Yeah. Yeah. So pretty much all of these were after that.
Eric
I think that email was maybe 2012 or something. Yeah.
Arian Foster
If you. If you. Like I said, I. I don't. It's hard to parse out what's going on exactly. But it's like if you were around Jeps Jepstein, Jeffrey Epstein, like, I'm not as inclined, just as a bystander to look at you and be like, oh, like he was up to some nefarious shit. If you have his email and you're involved in his emails and you're having contact with him post his conviction, I'm inclined to think you at least knew what was going on.
Big T
Right.
Arian Foster
You know what I mean?
Eric
You knew that he was on the sex offender list.
Arian Foster
Yeah. But if, like, you're like. I don't know, if you. If you rub elbows with him at a party or so, like, I'm less inclined to think that you know what's going on, like, or. Or you're involved with him, like, because he. He moved in like, highfalutin spaces. So like. So you go on. You go on have some kind of like, you know, crossing paths with a lot of people.
Big T
This isn't a. A novel theory by any means, but I was listening to John Kiriakou the other day. No, I did not say, Siri, you dumb I was listening to John Kiriaku. Who? What?
Arian Foster
By the way, these bots are talking about us, man.
Big T
No, no, I'm about. We can talk about that. I'm all. I'll talk right to him. John Kiriakou, he was a spy in the CIA who ended up going to prison for some very, really interesting guy. But he was. He was very confident that Epstein was a. An Israeli spy. And he was like, they'll. Because, you know, it's kind of. People don't really know how Epstein came to be this, you know, power broker amongst all the most powerful people in the world. And he was like, I mean, if you're a spy for the Israelis, they'll give you, you know, whatever you need to be able to get blackmail on people. And they'll. They'll set you up and make you the rich and powerful beyond your wildest dreams.
Arian Foster
All right, so this sounds like a conspiracy, but let me. Let me. Let me track. Jeffrey Epstein is a spy for the Israeli government.
Big T
I think a lot of people theorize that. Yeah.
Arian Foster
Does he have any connect. Do we know of any connections?
Eric
This is.
Arian Foster
Let's just rock it, see what's happening.
Big T
Well, the. I think the theory is that the. The Israelis wanted him to get blackmail on, you know, all of our most important people. And so that was the impetus of him, because he was a school teacher, like, nobody. You know, it's. I still don't think we really know how he got all this money.
Arian Foster
Hey, hold on. Okay. I just said, does Epstein have any ties to the Israeli government? And it's. And this is just grok. You know, we just grock and stuff. You know, just guys and gals asking questions. Yes, Epstein had documented ties to elements connected to the Israeli government and its intelligence community, particularly Mossad. Though these are a mix of confirmed associations, business dealings, and unproven allegations of deeper operational involvement. Key established facts include. I'm gonna butcher this Yud Barak connection. The former Israeli prime minister and defense minister had a long running professional and personal relationship with Epstein. Starting around 2003, he visited Epstein's New York apartment multiple times, including overnight stays, flew on his private plane with family security president, per his claims, and collaborated on business ventures. Those included discussions on Israeli tech startups, drone companies, emergency service apps like. I don't know what that's called, which involved ex Israeli intel figures, investment advice, and even Epson helping arrange media interviews for Barack Seeking a Trump interview for Israeli outlets in 2016. So he was. He was doing it for Trump as well. That's okay. Ghislaine Maxwell's family link. Epstein's longtime associate has and convicted co conspirator is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, a British media mogul widely reported as a Mossad asset. He died mysteriously in 1991. His state like funeral in Israel was attended by top officials by like prime minister Yitzhak Shamir and president chime Herzog. Arie Ben. I'm all these names up by the way. Apologies. Arie Ben Menashi, an ex Israeli officer claimed that Robert Maxwell introduced Epstein to Mosad circles in the 80s for arms deals and operations. Yo, this is wild. Yeah, so hold on real quick. Counterpoints and denials from grok. Israeli officials have called Mossad Epstein agent claims categorically false. Okay. And conspiracy theories often tied to anti Semitic tropes. Red flag. No official Israeli government or Mossad confirmation exists of Epstein as an agent or an asset. Epstein itself laughed off spy allegations and interviews. And Ghislaine mascara reportedly told, excuse me U. S Officials she didn't believe he worked for Mossad. So you told U. S Officials I don't believe he worked for Mossad. That's interesting. Many connections appear business, social. Epstein courted elites globally, not necessarily state directed espionage. His crimes were personal, financial, with no proven direct. So there's no like direct link. But enough you, you running around with a lot of these folks, like how is like the big thing? How do you have.
Big T
It would be more fantastical to believe that he just somehow rose to be this like power broker Amongst Presidents and CEOs and like all the most powerful people in the world from nothing. Like how does that even happen?
Arian Foster
So we don't really know how he got his start.
Big T
My understanding is not really.
Eric
We know that he became an like an uncertified teacher at the Dalton school, which is a. An elite school in Manhattan. And from there he got a connection from someone who's at the school. Like there are ties that you can see. But then like he got tied in with Les Wexner, the guy who owns the limited brands like Victoria's Secret and everything. And then like he was Les Wexner's like power of attorney. And like Les Wexner was just giving him all of this cash. Like it is a very interesting, like there's a bit of a gradual incline of like he worked at the Dalton school. So then he got connected with like people in finance because they're, you know, children with her or whatever. And then it just explodes into this load of money and connection seemingly from Wes Wexner at The start. And then. Yeah, you. You don't really know how after a certain point, it. It all came to be.
Arian Foster
I'm sure in like a hundred years, like, this is gonna be all. All the questions are going to be answered. I'm gonna have major FOMO when I'm dead. And all this. All the dots are connected. I want to know what's going on, man, but I'm not gonna do no investigative journalism.
Eric
Well, and then a lot of it too. I think a lot of the connection and how he kind of had access to. To women or I wouldn't. I don't even want to say women. Girls. Yeah, all the time. Is because he got connected to all of these different modeling agencies, which is also how people think that him and Trump got so well equipped, acquainted, because Trump used to have a modeling agency as well. And like, one of the guys who. Paulo Zampoli, who now has a role in our administration, was a modeling agency head. He was the one that brought Melania to America as a model. And then here we are now with a blockbuster documentary, however many years later. But a lot of it, he has these ties to, like, these modeling agencies and then would keep these girls at an apartment complex that he owned on the Upper east side. And that seems to. How. Be how he had a lot of access is because these girls were staying in his East 66 apartment complex. And so he basically just was their, like, landlord. And then these modeling heads were in with Epstein, so they didn't care what happened. And it was more than. It was more of a trafficking scheme than it ever was. Like a modeling scheme, if that makes sense. Again, allegedly.
Arian Foster
All alleged. The whole episode should be called allegedly.
Big T
This feels like the first time, though, that they've released something and there's been real stuff in it, at least from my perspective. There obviously there's been stuff out there before, but every time they've, like, teased a drop, it hasn't been nearly this explosive, at least from what I remember.
Eric
I would consider this the most disgusting, disturbing one by far of just pure content that is alleged in here.
Arian Foster
Yeah, I'm just scrolling the Epstein files on Twitter right now, and it's like, like a video of him and. And little girls blacked out. But a. A video of him chasing a girl around an island countertop. Like, just eerie, dog. Very eerie.
Eric
This is. This is maybe a. A dumb idea, but for something of this grandiose nature and so many people, so many high power, like, high power people involved. Would there be something like, again, I wasn't around for it. But like the Nuremberg trials where it's, you're, you're sentencing a huge ton of people to some. Like, does that make any sense?
Big T
The people you would want convicted will never have anything happen to them.
Eric
But do you know what I. But okay, I'm not even saying like that, but I'm just saying in general, is that how you would go about prosecuting something? Because it wouldn't be a RICO case, right?
Big T
I don't know.
Eric
But like, how do you. Yeah, like how do you even prosecute? Or do you go, yeah, like there's so, so, so many people implicated in this. Like, they will again. Unfortunately, they will never get to every single person that was involved in the Epstein trials or the Epstein files. But like, do you do like a huge group like trial because of it? But then, you know, it's not like.
Arian Foster
The Holocaust where the main dude is dead, so Epstein is dead. So that like, usually when RICO cases happen, there's like this, it's an organization and they, and they try to tie all business dealings to that organization and all, all, all the co conspirators and usually like they'll get lesser sentencing if they all cooperate to get the main one gone. But the main one's already gone. So I don't even know how that will work.
Eric
I mean, and I mean, Ghin Maxwell is still alive. I mean, she's still alive. She's like.
Arian Foster
But I don't trust nothing she says because she's going to do anything in her power to get off.
Eric
Yeah. So like that, that's the thing is like, I just don't like. But again, you're seeing whatever names you are seeing as of right now. Trump, Clinton, Bill Gates, whoever. I, I don't even know what you do. Like, can you not start there? And bringing forward a charge or an indictment of some sort or like, I don't know, it just feels so helpless to.
Big T
You expect the federal government to go after Bill Clinton and Trump?
Eric
I, I don't. I'm. I'm saying in a per. In a perfect world, this wouldn't happen. But like in a, in a just world.
Big T
Yeah, I mean, yeah, but it's just not gonna happen.
Eric
I know, but that's, that's what I think the most frustrating part is. Like so many people are so upset. And then also Trump is just like doing a press conference with Tim Cook and someone asks about it and then he's like, nah, that's a hoax. It's all a hoax. And then it's like, okay, like how I don't even know where you go from here. I just don't, like. So you just have to, like, go around knowing all this stuff.
Arian Foster
Yeah. That's why it's just. It's not a very. It wasn't. It wasn't strategically released, and it was just very sloppily done. And, I mean, just looking at it from the outside, it kind of looks like it was on purpose.
Eric
Well, look at our attorney general just.
Arian Foster
Just flood him with all the shit and con and. And. And deny, deny. I mean. I mean, Trump is so, like. There's one thing I'll give him credit for is he. He's. He's so, like, he'll. He'll say lies so much that his base starts to believe him, and it just dilutes any kind of accountability for him.
Big Cat
And.
Big T
It'S.
Arian Foster
It's kind of a great marketing scheme.
Eric
I know. I mean, people always say Watergate's, like, at 10am on a Wednesday for Trump.
Arian Foster
Facts. It's crazy. Yo, yo. So I'm just, like I said, I'm getting caught up on my news with. With Twitter, and Nicki Minaj has a hard pivot to mega.
Big T
Oh, she's. She's ultra.
Eric
She has a crush on Trump. She thinks he's hot.
Arian Foster
She has a AI image of Chucky the doll sipping a martini glass. And she said, your favorite artist has been practicing rituals in a satanic cult where they take babies from other countries and mutilate and kill them as a form of blood sacrifice to their God. You see, when your master is Satan, you must constantly shed blood. However, the jig is up. And then her next tweet was, should I do a daily story time about who's been doing what? 82% said yes. 17% said of course. Those were the options she gave. And then her next tweet is, trevor refuses to come out of the closet when everyone in the industry knows his boyfriend. Allegedly. I believe she's referring to Trevor Noah. That's what I'm gathering, because I guess he made some jokes about her at the Grammys. And her boyfriend. His boyfriend is allegedly Jay Z, who's in a picture with Aaliyah and Beyonce when they were all younger. Aaliyah was 15. I don't. I don't know any of this. Aaliyah was 15. Jay Z26. Jay Z27, it says. And Beyonce 16. That's right. It's usually fact checkable. Is that true?
Eric
Are they dating Aaliyah and Jay Z?
Arian Foster
Yeah.
Eric
I don't know about Aaliyah. I know that Beyonce and Jay Z started dating when Beyonce was fairly. Fairly young. I don't know about you, though.
Big T
And Aaliyah, for those who obviously know, is Aliyah's.
Arian Foster
She was a very popular singer back in the late 90s, early 2000s. And she.
Big T
She was. She was. Was she part of Destiny's Child?
Arian Foster
No, no, she was just. She. You know, Timbaland, the music producer? She did a lot of stuff with him, and she ended up dying in a plane crash. It was kind of like, revered in. In our circumstances. But this is what I don't like about, like, this. Right. Hate this type You've known all this time that there was blood sacrificing and baby killing, and you just now coming at it on Twitter because they was joking on you at the Grammys. You're a piece of like. So I don't. This. Don't like. It's all, like, you just doing it for attention. And if. And if. If you. And if you really. What are the names? What is the evidence? Why. Why are you not. Why did you not report it then? Why was you not talking about it then? You were complicit. If you knew. If you knew babies are getting killed and mutilated and you don't say none, you are complicit.
Eric
Well, I mean, her husband's a registered sex offender.
Arian Foster
Her husband's a registered. Word.
Eric
Word.
Arian Foster
Like a real one.
Eric
Yeah. And was convicted of manslaughter, I believe, like, 20 years ago. People. People think that Nicki Minaj is cuddling up to Trump to like, try to get her husband a pardon or something. But people were already off the Nikki train before this because of that. They were like, your husband's a really bad person and you're, like, defending him by being with him.
Arian Foster
Wow. Yes. Nicki Minaj's husband, Kenneth Patty, is a registered sex offender classified as a level 2 sex offender in New York State, indicating moderate risk of offense and Status. STEMIT from 1995. Conviction for attempted rape in the first degree. Damn. Assaulted a 16 year old. Yikes. Assuming she's quiet about that. Wow.
Eric
Extremely.
Arian Foster
Yeah, let's pivot, man. All of this Punctoni Phil, huh? How about that, right? Six more months of winter, guys.
Eric
Six more weeks. Not months.
Arian Foster
Six more weeks of winter.
Big T
It's about months here.
Arian Foster
I would take six more months of winter in Houston because our winter has been 65 degrees and sunny, so I would absolutely get it. Yeah. Yeah. Like today. Let's see what today is. Big D. I don't know. Haven't checked the weather yet, but I'm about to. Let's see. It's not that. Oh, right now it's 47. We have a high of 70 and.
Big T
Sunny 70 degrees here till June.
Arian Foster
Yeah, it's. It's pretty. It's pretty nice here. Not gonna lie. But. Yeah. Punks. Tony, Phil. We're still doing that, by the way too. That's.
Big T
Yeah, you. You're telling me now for the first time. I didn't know that when that was. Was that today?
Arian Foster
Yeah, that's today. So that was Monday. So for listeners, it was yesterday.
Big T
Yeah, I mean, I don't.
Arian Foster
There's. I mean. I mean, I watched the movie called Groundhog Day with Bill Murray.
Big T
Fantastic film.
Arian Foster
Great movie. Fire movie. Might run it back. Just put your little hands in my. Wow. Hits the alarm clock every day. Anywho, I mean, same guys, right? They come out dressed in tuxedos and top hats with a. With a rodent talking about some. And people show up for it. This is like, come on. It's just like.
Big T
I do appreciate that kind of like tradition Americana like that. We still do stuff like that in. In towns like Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania. I just don't need to. To care about it, you know. I think that's great for them.
Arian Foster
And they're all dressed the same. They're all. They're all dressed.
Big T
That should be on reading the scroll.
Arian Foster
Talking about some. How do you interpret if this sees his shadow or not? Like, how do you know that should.
Big T
Be on the local news and go no further.
Arian Foster
To be fair, it is on the local news, but national out outlets picked it up.
Big T
Yeah, I mean, everybody.
Arian Foster
You know what, you know, I take it back. It's good to break up the minati. We were just talking about child mutilation and. And you know, Groundhog Day, you know, extra, extra, extra weeks of. Of winter, man. Solid shadow.
Big T
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Arian Foster
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Big T
Like, use two hands and fold it huge.
Arian Foster
Feed your crew and order ahead@pizza hut.com or in the app brought to you by Pizza Hut. What else you got on the docket? You have this AI social media site and I have looked into this. Talk to me, man.
Big T
So I think it was Friday, this thing called Molt. Is it Molt Chat? Molt Bot. Mo Book. Molt Book started to go really viral and it was these people posting, like, look, the AI agents are talking to each other and they want to create their own language and they say that they're sick of humans and they want to kill us. And then I think it, it's been confirmed at this point that it was just people, like, prompting these, these things to say these things and like, basically making the post for them and then being like, oh, my God, like they're coming for us. And I think it was all just prompted by humans.
Arian Foster
There's a, There's a tweet that says, programmer. Pretend to be alive program. I am alive, programmer. What have I done exactly? Yeah, I'm not too. Because I, you know, I, it is what alarmed me was that they, they said that they started to create like a language to, to talk to each other in. That's interesting. But it, the original claim was that it was encrypted. Comes upon that it's not encrypted. That would be kind of wild if they did an encrypted language to try to talk to each other. So I don't, I don't know in depth. Is it, Is it, Is it all prompted? I don't think it's all prompted. I think some of it's them talking to each other.
Big T
Like, I'm not entirely sure.
Arian Foster
Yeah. Have you ever put like a chat GBT and a chat GPT together and just have them talk?
Big T
No, but I've seen it.
Arian Foster
Don't do it. It's a waste of time. And they just, they. It's the same, but it's similarly to the. Similar. Similarly to that. Yeah, they're just kind of talking to each other. I didn't, I mean, the, the. We got to take the humans out and like that. I mean, like, I didn't really. AI don't scare me like that. AI scares me with human usage. AI scares me with, like, people not being able to function without it. That's what scares me about AI. But not this, this, this. You could just unplug this. I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't find it plausible that, that, that, That a program that's not, that's. That's programmed by a human. I don't find it scary in the least. Unless a human is like, yo, I'm gonna program you to be evil. You got to break it to bait codes, and you gotta start stealing this. And, yeah, then that's. Now we talking. But I had nothing to do with the program. That's a human, which is just I.
Big T
Do think, though, I, and you and I have had this discussion every. Everything I see from teachers or professors in colleges or whoever that's working with kids, to a man, they're all like, y' all are not ready for. Like, these kids can't read. They. They have no idea what to do without AI. They have no idea what's going on. So I am concerned in that aspect, in that a decade, you know, what are we looking at in terms of kids not knowing how to do math and read?
Arian Foster
But yeah, even that doesn't really scare me like that.
Eric
Do your kids use it a lot, Arian?
Arian Foster
Yeah, but what I try to. Not necessarily for, like, everyday tasks, but they'll use it for, like, homework and like that. But what I try to tell them is it's like I've said on this podcast before, it's a. It's a tool. Like, you can use it to build a house or you could use it to. To mark somebody with. It is a tool. And I, I look at it kind of like, all right, we don't write cursive anymore. A lot of the stuff that we needed to know in school, it's just becoming outdated because we have tools that do it for us now. You sent me that one study that I'm not sure where. Where the data is with that now. If cognition levels are going down, Then I, I would. I would probably deem it concerning. But again, I don't know enough to. To have an opinion on it from that aspect. Just from my perspective, it's just like anything else. Oh, you could. You could use it to build or use it to destroy. Given a human being's history, we'll probably use it to destroy, but nonetheless, a bunch of bots talking to each other is basically Twitter.
Big T
Anyway, so I also saw something the other day that school districts that have given, like, every student a laptop or iPad or whatever in class, their scores have gone down pretty drastically as well.
Arian Foster
Really? Yeah, you know, that's. I'm do that in the next couple days. I'm gonna look at, like. Like to give them data, the peer review data on it, just what's available and see what the. See what to see what the. The data say.
Big T
And I do think it's the combination of the rise of AI at the same time of a lot of kids missing, you know, half a year, a year of school in person because of COVID Oh, because of COVID I think those two things happening at the same time have been vastly detrimental.
Arian Foster
Yeah, I don't know. I'm Undecided. I don't know how I feel about it yet. I need more info.
Eric
I mean as someone who was in school for a year and a half with COVID I did not learn a single thing past March 13, 2020 and I was like a senior in college. Like I mean, right?
Big T
So now imagine I was a developer, right?
Arian Foster
Yeah.
Big T
Who. So. So in 2020 they're in third grade. The next year is. Is a wash. And now they'd be in what, eighth, ninth grade. And, and they're just using AI for everything.
Eric
Right.
Big T
That kid doesn't know shit.
Eric
And I think a lot of it is you lose what one like one of the most important parts of school is, is like human socialization and like learning to interact with other people. And if you're, if there's a year in a very, very crucial part of your development that is just not having that skill harbor, then I think that goes like to shit too.
Arian Foster
I just typed in how does China regulate AI with kids? And then. Because they always seem to be a step ahead of us and they'll beat.
Big T
The out of you.
Arian Foster
China regulates AI for children through a combination of strict safety guidelines, usage limits and mandated standardized age appropriate education curricula. Key policies include requiring guardian consent, restricting access for younger children, banning AI generated content and schoolwork, and implementing safeguards against self harm. Key regulatory measures for children and AI age specific restrictions. Primary school students are prohibited for from using unsupervised generative AI while middle and high schoolers have limited access, safety and content controls. Regulation mandate that AI platforms prevent the generation of harmful content. See this is where I be agreeing with China a lot of. Because I don't believe in freedom. I don't believe in full fledged freedom. I believe you have to regulate people because people are insane and they're going to use. So like there was a. Who was it? Twitter. I don't remember what platform, but some, some platform started to ban mlk. AI generated stuff and it was like through Bernice, his daughter was like, just like I can't. You shouldn't be able to use the, the, the likeness like this, like in a harmful way. And I agree, like that's her murdered father that she has to constantly see memes about all the time. Like that is harmful to society. It desensitizes us, it does irreparable damage in my opinion. But because of freedom you just allowed to do whatever the you want. I don't, I don't think that should be the case that I think regulation on this kind of Is great.
Eric
Yeah.
Big T
I mean, we'll. We'll see what happens. I, like, we'll just never have, though, the kind of educational system and standards that China and Japan and countries like that have.
Arian Foster
I agree.
Big T
Like, in Japan, that the teachers come by your house, and if you're not actively doing homework in, like, a. A designated area, I think you. You get in, like, massive trouble.
Arian Foster
Yeah, they. They just. They. They place an importance on education and how they. How they educate their kids and they regulate. Like, I. I think freedom without guide rails is a recipe for disaster. I think America is a litness test for this. Like, we are. We are going off the rails right now. That is insane, dog. It is. It is a wild. This is a wild place to be. Yeah, man. I don't know. Sometimes I want to let off this planet, but now you got.
Big T
You got so much left to do.
Arian Foster
So much golf in me, Big T. I got so much golf in me, man. I'm. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling great.
Big T
And you just restarted the clock with a new kid, so it's. You got. You got so much more to live for.
Arian Foster
Yeah, but also, I got so much golf in me, you know?
Big T
Right, right. So many courses left.
Arian Foster
Yeah. So this is my fifth kid, so her. Her mother. This is her first kid, and she. So everything she does is like, oh, my God. Did you see? She. She stood up or she did this, or she said this instead of. I'm like, yep, it's pretty cool. Pretty cool. It's number five.
Big T
It doesn't hit the same for you.
Arian Foster
I know it don't hit the same. I mean, like, I love my baby. Right. I love. Therefore she's here all the time. Like, we have a great relationship, but, like, when she. When she says, I did it, and it's like, you. You pulled the drapes up. I'm like, yes, you did. You absolutely.
Big T
She did it.
Arian Foster
She did do it. I'm not denying that she did it. It's just after 16 years of being a father, it's less impressive that you pulled the dreads up than it was the first time. You know, man, you'll get there. Maybe. I don't know about five kids, but you'll get there. You'll get to the point where you're. Yeah, this happened with my first kid. There was this little. Little bouncy thing and her mom and there's, like, this little lion that spun. Right. It's like the ongoing joke in my. In my. In my house. Her mom was like. Like my oldest daughter. She Was, like, staring at. This was before she had any kind of motor skills. And she's, like, staring at it, and she, like, attempts to touch it, and she goes, look, look. She wants to touch the lion. And I'm like, yep, yep, she does. I think women are maybe a little bit more impressed with that kind of. I don't know. I've been impressive. Like, one of my kids gets a scholarship. That would be fire. You know, ease the burden a little bit.
Big T
That'd be. That'd be nice.
Arian Foster
It wouldn't hurt.
Big T
You got. You got five 29s coming out your ass.
Arian Foster
Spikes, though. Yeah. I mean, that's what I did it for, though. That's why, you know, I live within perpetual state of pain so that my babies had everything that I didn't, you know? And I'm sure they're extremely grateful. Sure. They're so grateful. My daughter's gonna see that. Yo, what the. That's my dog, though. All right. What else you got on your docket, man? Is that it?
Big T
I think that was it. There was one. There's a house in Plainfield, Illinois, which is kind of close to here, that has been going viral on Tick Tock because it's abandoned. And I guess the front porch light has been flashing like Morse code for SOS Really? And then the police. I looked into it, and it's nothing. So it's not. Not really that interesting. But the. The TikTok edits make it look really cool.
Arian Foster
That is probably improbable. What person nowadays knows the Morse code for sos?
Big T
I don't know.
Arian Foster
And then one person could recognize that.
Big T
I have no idea.
Arian Foster
What a short circuit. That's wild.
Big T
Yeah. I've never. You don't come across the Morse as much anymore.
Arian Foster
Yeah. Was there any voicemails?
Eric
Yeah.
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Let's knock a few of them out.
Big T
Hey, guys.
G
James from New Jersey here. What's up? Macro dosing crew. Last week, PFT was talking about his buyback going to the store for his buyback and being noticed, just curious, made me wonder where's the most embarrassing place that you guys have ever been noticed? Like, you know, you go somewhere like I hope no one recognizes me from the NFL or that one's Aryan or you know, from barstool and you walk in and hey look, it's Big T's here. Big looking, Big T or oh, Mad Dog and flip it. The best place somewhere you really hope to get noticed. Maybe you did or you did it or not notice. Recognized as a teacher. I used to live in the same town that where I taught and I felt like celebrity incognito going to a winter store until one Sunday morning waiting online to get in as we all do. And one of my students is opening the door for me because it's a family owned liquor store. So that was fun. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but you know, anyway, you guys, stay beautiful, stay handsome. Shout out, Big T.
Big T
Shout out to you as well, my brother.
Arian Foster
So, so the first part was what's the wildest place you've been recognized?
Eric
The worst place.
Big T
And I think you said, yeah, embarrassing, like embarrassing place.
Eric
And then what's like the, the best place? Like the best situation? I think probably like if you were like on a date or something or.
Big T
Oh, that's easy.
Eric
Okay.
Big T
I think the best one was the first time. I think it was the first time I ever hung out with my now fiance's dad. And we went to dinner and then we were going to a Knicks game and we were walking from the restaurant to msg and I think it may have been two people stopped and said hello from the time we walked to, you know, to the arena. And he goes, that is so great that people love what you do. And I was like, I was like, yeah, that, I liked that that that happened. The most embarrassing one. This is a pre. I'm pretty worried about this. I am going to a wedding at Disney World at the end of this month and my fiance can't get off like she's working from Orlando while we're there. And I'm like, well, you're not taking me to Disney World and I'm not going to Disney World. I mean that's ridiculous. So I guess I'm going solo and I'm, I'm just worried that I'm going to be walking around Disney World as a, as a solo 28 year old man and people are going to be like, is that, is that big team? So I'm, I'm pre concerned about that. But I'M go. I don't care.
Arian Foster
Let me see my. The. I want to say I'm not really embarrassed, but it was at a urinal, and I'm just doing my business. And he goes, are you Arian Foster? I'm like, no. Like, come on, man. Wait till I'm. Wait till my hands is clean. But I was like, yeah, what's up, man? I got. I've taken a picture in the bathroom before I get a picture. I'm like, yeah, whatever, man. Let's just do it the best. I guess the best would be, like. Because I don't like to. I never had. It was like, hey, man, I'm. I'm so and so. Can you. Whatever. I'm trying to get in places or anything like that, but something like that where there's like, a dinner reservation or something like that that maybe they had booked and they made room for me just because. So, like, that is. You know, when people look out for you because they appreciate what you did. That's. That's pretty cool.
Big T
But actually, yesterday, I was trying on my suit for the aforementioned wedding, and, you know, the guy at Men's Warehouse is chalking on my pants and doing all this stuff, and this guy walks by, goes, big T, what's up? And I was, oh, hey. And the guy goes, oh, do you know him? And I was just kind of, you know, looking at the suit and everything. I was, oh, no. And then he looked at me real confused, like. But he just said hello to you. And then he had something to do. So then it went on. I. I was gonna be. Yeah, there's a thing he see, you know, famous. Big T. Not. Not that often, but, you know, every once in. I. I got a little motion now.
Arian Foster
Yeah, you got a little. Most.
Big T
A little bit.
Eric
Whenever we're out to eat with Big T, you get recognized. Like, Mackenzie and I will be sitting there with you, and you. You're the only one that'll get rec. Recognized.
Big T
I think it happens more in Chicago than New York.
Eric
Yeah, totally.
Big T
New York.
Eric
New York. You see, like, real celebrities.
Big T
Yeah.
Arian Foster
Damn.
Eric
No, I mean, no, I mean, that's fair.
Big T
I'm a. The term that one of. One of my friends. I don't know if he coined it or if he heard it somewhere, but micro. Niche Internet celebrity.
Eric
Yeah.
Big T
And I. Yeah, I mean, in a. In a small. In a. In a relatively small circle of people, I am somewhat notable, whether positive or negative.
Arian Foster
I remember one time, it was like. It was during the middle of my career. I meet some. Some kid and it's like, is his dad. I'm sorry, his. His dad introduced me to him. He's like, hey, hey, son, I want you to meet this A.R. foster. Like, you don't know who this is? And he looks at me just like, are you. Are you Internet famous? It's like, no, you little.
Big T
You youtuber.
Arian Foster
Shout out to him. I hope he's doing.
Big T
Oh, actually I forgot one more. The one more. The coolest. This actually is the coolest one. I was going to a Yankees game with Joe Milton and Ramel Keaton and some other people. Ramel Keaton also played football, Tennessee. And a couple other people who had them in town for, like. Aaron, you were. You talked to Joe and them when they were in town?
Arian Foster
Yeah.
Big T
And so me and the other guy that we were with and Joe Milton and Ramil Keaton did not have a ton to talk about on the way from Manhattan to Yankee Stadium. And then we get out and we're walking in and somebody goes, big T, what's up, dude? I was like, hey. And Joe Milton goes, oh, we're in your city now. Yeah, that's right. That's right, Joe. Yes, you are.
Arian Foster
Got a little motion out here. Wow. What's up with Joe?
Big T
What's up?
Arian Foster
Give me a Joe Milton update where he's the.
Big T
The Cowboys backup Cowboys back up. Make. Make a good living that way.
Arian Foster
One of the best, I'd argue one of the best jobs in America. It's great job.
Big T
I mean, you're making what, $2 million.
Arian Foster
A year, 2, 3 mil, just to. Just to be a maybe a what if? And then everybody loves you because nobody really likes the guy, you know, that the guy starts like, man, we really need to get so and so in. Great job.
Big T
And then if you play well, you can maybe try to put like Malik Willis. This year is going to make a lot of money because he played well in a few games. And then if you don't, they're like, well, it's a backup. Fine, whatever.
Arian Foster
The backup. Low expectations. Just. Just don't lose us the game. You don't got to win us again. Just don't lose us again. It's a great job, dog. Unreal. All right, one more.
Big T
One more.
Arian Foster
Voicemail.
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Mikey
What's going on? Macrodosing name is Mikey. I'm from Arizona. I go to the probably biggest Christian college in America. And I just broke up with my long distance girlfriend who we've been together for six months. But it was serious and I thought it was going to last. But I broke up with her for a lot of effort reasons and religious reason. Religious reasons. She wasn't really a practicing Christian or showing effort in that way. And also I was going above and beyond in a lot of ways in our relationship. Notes, flowers, paying her sorority sisters back home to get her coffee every week or get her flowers and food and all this stuff just to made sure I was doing that. And I didn't really see any of that. Reciprocated and broke up a few weeks ago after six months of dating. And my question for you guys is, how long do I need to wait? Because. To start getting out there again Because I feel like I'm where I need to be as a boyfriend and a man. I'm 21 years old. It's my last year of college, last semester, and I want to get out there and hopefully meet my wife down here. And my question is, do I need to wait a certain amount of time to do that or can I just get out there and start going on dates and stuff again? It's been about two weeks now since the breakup, so. Love the show, love the pod. Listen, since day one, never missed an episode. Love you guys. Dance and stay beautiful. Thank you.
Big T
This is easy.
Arian Foster
Big T. Take it.
Big T
Take it away, Big D. I mean, this, it's. It. Get after it, brother. I don't. You know, this isn't. This isn't on you. It sounds like a great guy from everything I heard.
Arian Foster
Yeah. So it. There's a few variables I would need to know. Right. I'm gonna fill in the blanks. If, if, if it was a problem for you that she wasn't a practicing Christian, I would then assume that you not dating just to get your rocks off. I would assume. No.
Big T
That's what he said.
Arian Foster
Yeah. So I assume you're dating for like marriage. And if that's the case, then I would say. I would say don't force because you're 21 years old though. Like if something comes along and it. And she absolutely floors you and it's, and it's just one of the most beautiful human beings that you ever met. I would say by all means, start to pursue that. But as a 21 year old, I would think as a 39 year old man, I would give you advice. I think it's way more important to get all your rest of your shit in, in, in order, like make sure your financials is good, enjoy your life, go travel, go do other things. You're gonna have plenty of time for marriage and kids and all that. 21 is young, dog. I, I believe that you should be able to live a little bit before you give yourself like that. But again, if it's organic and it comes, I would say go ahead and do it, but don't. There's no rush. There's no rush. And so like dating nowadays, like I would assume at his age, because dating for me is like, I may go out every now and then, but for the most part it's online dating is, you know, yo, I got a homegirl for you, that type shit. So I would assume dating nowadays, you go out, you socialize also online dating, stuff like that. Pursue all your options and if, if, if you're a practicing Christian, you're saving yourself for marriage. So there's no rush. There's no rush for love. You, you, you chill.
Big T
But, but I think you would agree, he, I think his question was like, do I need to wait? Because like, I just broke up with this girl. Whatever. I think you would agree. The answer to that is no.
Arian Foster
That depends. In my opinion, like I said, there's some variables that I don't know. If, if you are actually hurt and heartbroken and, and like really distraught over this breakup, I would say yeah, take some time though, because a lot of, a lot of the decisions after, because that's why I said that the first premise was if you're not dating to get your rocks off, right? I would assume he's not and you're dating for marriage, then it's not as important that you get right back out there. If you're, if you're extremely hurt about this situation because, you know, love is tough. I don't, I don't know how really feels, but I, I, from personal experience, getting back in the pool too fast can lead to some decisions that you're not proud of. I don't say proud of, but he was like, I could, I could have waited, right? Let me, let me make sure all my emotions are in order. Let me do the necessary work to make sure that I Am the best version of myself before I enter into something with somebody else because then I'm bringing my baggage to. To their front doorstep that they didn't ask for that I haven't worked on yet. And that's not fair. So I would say it's not as important. But if you're not a practicing Christian, but a Christian in practice and you just try to get your rocks off, I say step out. Day one, dog. Do your thing.
Big T
I think everything you said is true, but the. The. What I heard him say was like, he wants to. From what I. What I understood.
Arian Foster
Yeah, yeah.
Mikey
And.
Arian Foster
And that's. Like I said, variables.
Big T
I don't know, but I think he. He, like, I feel kind of bad because, you know, we just broke up. Whatever.
Arian Foster
No, you should have no allegiance. If you treated her kindly. There is no more allegiance to her. I believe in that strongly. I don't have all the moral boundaries and the. And the respect that I gave you. If you. If you disrespected me and we are no longer in. I don't owe you nothing. There. There's no more boundaries.
Big T
Agreed.
Arian Foster
Like I'm you also.
Big T
I mean, just pragmatically, she's thousand miles away. What's she gonna do about it?
Arian Foster
Yeah. I mean it.
Big T
Or it might not be a. I don't know. He just said long distance. Maybe she lives in Albuquerque. I don't know. I'm assuming. I don't want to. I think I know where this guy.
Arian Foster
Goes to college, but I feel that.
Big T
I mean, he said the state, right?
Arian Foster
Yeah, he said the state. And there's. I assume there's not many Christian colleges in the. In the area.
Big T
Yeah. I'm virtually positive I know where he goes to college.
Arian Foster
There he goes. Yeah. So, I mean, shout out to my man. Hope you. Hope you figured out. Yeah, I was taking time. I don't remember. I have cte. What's your excuse?
Big T
The audio was muffled and we had to scramble to get it on everybody's phone and play it.
Arian Foster
Nice. Nice.
Eric
His name is Mikey.
Arian Foster
Yeah, Mikey.
Big T
Shout out, Mikey.
Arian Foster
Shout out to Mikey, man. He said he's a day one listener. Macadosian. Appreciate. Appreciate you pimping.
Big T
You don't meet a lot of Mikey's these days.
Arian Foster
I follow a guy on Instagram called Mikey T. Time. Mikey T's something like that. Killer swing, dog. Holy beautiful swing. Shout out to Mikey.
Big T
We got a Mikey. Mikey Betts. We used to have another one left. Yeah. Good guy.
Arian Foster
Let it hear it. Well, all right, man, that is nano dosing. We'll be back on Wednesday, I believe. Thursday. Jesus. We'll be back on Thursday, I believe. Eric will still be out in San Francisco. Enjoy the rest of your week or the start of your week. And then we will see y' all on Thursday.
Big T
Goodbye.
Arian Foster
I was about to wait for it, though.
In this episode, the Macrodosing crew—Arian Foster, Big T, and Eric—dive deep into the newly released Jeffrey Epstein files. They break down some of the bombshell accusations and the confusion, misinformation, and horror surrounding these files. The conversation covers high-profile names implicated, the reliability of the leaks, speculation about "conspiracy land," and societal fallout. The crew also discusses college football, AI fears, and take listener questions, while maintaining their mix of levity and candor.
The crew ponders reputational fallout:
Lament over lack of likely prosecution: either people are too powerful, or there’s simply too much noise for meaningful action.
The “best place to hide a lie...between two truths.”
Reflection on the explosion of conspiracy, disinformation, and a failure of government transparency.
Elon Musk repeatedly emailed Epstein trying to get invited to parties—was rebuffed.
Musk now publicly claims innocence, but "the emails show he tried to go."
Consensus: If you were associating with Epstein after his first conviction, you knew, or chose not to care.
Discussion of how fixing accountability on such a scale is nearly impossible in a real-world justice system; main perpetrators are dead or untouchable, co-conspirators protected.
Grievance at the public's inability to process such massive, horrifying, and overwhelming information.
Arian discusses being a father of five, noticing how milestones lose novelty over time, but acknowledges the importance of support and emotional resilience.
Caller Mikey: Should I wait to start dating after breaking up with my long-distance girlfriend?
Consensus advice: No need to wait if you're emotionally ready. If the breakup hurt, give yourself time; but there’s no philosophical or moral obligation to delay (82:18–85:53).
The crew’s conversation is irreverent, occasionally darkly funny, but underscored by sincere disgust and bewilderment at the magnitude of the Epstein revelations. They’re critical of government, legal, and societal responses and wary of online misinformation. The episode swings between gallows humor, genuine advice, and their signature “just asking questions” skepticism.
For full context, listeners should be aware this episode contains references to disturbing crimes, speculation, and strong opinions not all of which are verified.