Everything is a Scam (ft. Chief) | March 24, 2026

Summary

Macrodosing: "Everything is a Scam (ft. Chief)" – March 24, 2026

Overview of Episode Theme

This episode centers around the thesis that, as the title says, "Everything is a Scam." Chiefs joins Big T, Madeline, and McKenzie for a wide-ranging discussion tackling the overwhelming sense that modern society—from air travel and banking to credit cards, sports, and even college tuition—is wrapped up in systems designed to confuse, overcharge, or disadvantage regular people while perpetuating advantage for corporations and elites. The hosts riff on frustrations big and small, explore how many accepted parts of life are built on shaky or illogical foundations, and share how this affects their outlook, behaviors, and even political philosophy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sports Chat: March Madness and Analytics Fatigue

• Light opening banter, including sports talk about the NCAA basketball tournament, baseball season, and how analytics have saturated sports commentary.
• Analytics Disillusionment: The crew commiserates over modern statistical jargon (WAR, exWOBA, etc.) making sports harder to follow and less fun. Chief especially critiques the overuse of advanced hockey stats, noting that "there's just too many variables" for metrics to truly capture the game.
  • Quote: "There's just too much... You can't have a WAR equivalent in hockey." – Chief (14:34)

Timestamp: Sports and analytics chat: [01:00–15:36]

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2. Air Travel: TSA as a "Scam"—Failures and Privatization

• Complaints about current TSA absurdities: Long waits, inefficiency, ineffective screening.
• Surprising budget figures: TSA's annual budget is $11.8 billion, funded largely by direct passenger fees.
• Privatization debate: Would a private security company do better? Should we get rid of TSA entirely?
• Notable Evidence: Department of Homeland Security tests found they sneak fake explosives/guns through TSA 70% of the time.
  • Quote: "They're not stopping 70% of weapons anyway... Let's find somebody that'll do this correctly." – Chief (23:02)
• Connection to government shutdowns and how services the public pays for (through line-item fees) are held hostage to political gridlock.

Timestamp: TSA/air travel as scam: [16:41–29:01]

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3. Everyday Expenses: Fuel, Groceries, Bottled Water, and Tax Layers

• Consternation over rising costs of gas and groceries.
• Rant on the sheer number of taxes and fees tacked onto basic goods such as bottled water (Chicago's infamous bottled water tax discussed).
  • Quote: "It's 30% [tax]... I'm already paying taxes on it. What is the bottled water tax here?" – Big T (50:08)
• General disbelief at how, despite constant taxation, cities and the country are still in massive debt.

Timestamp: Cost of living/tax rant: [29:01–52:07]

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4. The Money Illusion: Modern Banking, Credit Cards, Debt

• Money's lack of physicality: Much of it is just numbers on screens, especially post-gold standard.
• Fractional reserve banking explained: The same money gets lent out, redeposited, and lent out again.
• Credit card system as a scam: Discussion about how "everything is a credit card company" now, and how credit scores punish you for responsible behavior.
  • Quote: "I paid off my student loans and they tanked my credit score because I no longer had debt. You want to talk about a scam? Let's just do scams." – Big T (39:04)
• Infuriation at how simply checking your credit can lower your score.

Timestamp: Money, banking, credit chat: [51:01–60:48]

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5. Scams with Big Societal Impact

a) Citizens United & Super PACs

• How the Citizens United ruling makes corporate spending in politics unlimited—a core scam allowing corporations disproportionate control.
  • Quote: "What a fuck name that is because it’s the opposite of that. It’s just corporations united." – Chief (46:12)

b) College Tuition & Student Loans

• Rise in tuition directly correlated with federal student loan expansions. Post-2026 cap on law school loans means tuitions will magically cluster at $50K.
  • Quote: "If the government's going to let you take out unlimited money, then guess what? The schools are going to charge unlimited." – Big T (84:10)

c) Universal Basic Income (UBI) & AI

• Skepticism around UBI as pushed by tech elites like Sam Altman: If everyone has more money, prices will just rise and keep people poor.
  • Quote: "They will keep you poor no matter what." – Mad Dog (85:36)

d) Why Are Things So Broken?

• The group returns repeatedly to the core question: Why are so many parts of public and economic life needlessly confusing, designed to disadvantage, or riddled with paradoxes?
• Hypothesis: It’s about keeping the masses disengaged, confused, and divided so that power structures don't get meaningfully challenged.
  • Quote: "We accept a lot of shit that…if you were proposing it for the first time, you'd be a nutjob." – Big T (43:58)

Timestamp: Political/corporate/cost-of-living scams: [46:01–88:17]

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6. Cult Culture, Family Abuse, and Religious Control as Scams

• Discussion covers the Duggar family and multiple instances of abuse, touching on how cultish religious communities shield and perpetuate such behavior.
• Explores how power structures in families and religious organizations can serve as scams that keep children and women disempowered.
• Briefly references similar themes in recent Mormon influencer abuse scandals.

Timestamp: Cult/family abuse topics: [67:24–77:31]

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7. Coping, Positivity, and Small Acts of Defiance

• After the bleakness, the hosts encourage focusing on what can be directly controlled.
• Recommendations:
  • Treat those around you well. Enjoy small pleasures (e.g., "buy the expensive flowers").
  • Decrease screen time: McKenzie will start using a "brick" device to lock herself out of social apps.
  • Seek friends, time outside; don’t get overwhelmed by the scale of the problems.
  • Humor as a comfort: The show ends with jokes about not voting, voting third party, and "coming to the middle."

Timestamp: Coping and conclusion: [90:15–103:55]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Everything is fake. Money is fake... It's all just on a screen. There's nothing anywhere."
  – Chief (51:01)

• "The credit score is the worst thing we got going."
  – Big T (41:45)

• On UBI/AI:
  "They will keep you poor no matter what... There is no such thing as universal basic income because like, money is not a fixed thing."
  – Mad Dog (85:36)

• "We accept a lot of shit that... if you were proposing it for the first time, you'd be a nutjob."
  – Big T (43:58)

• "I don't understand, like, someone there to me, like, the government shouldn't be allowed to just run on credit like that."
  – Chief (56:26)

• "We need a revolution. A class-based revolution."
  – Chief (43:13)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Content | Timestamp | |---------|---------|-----------| | Opening & Sports | NCAA, March Madness, analytics | 01:00–15:36 | | TSA/Air Travel | TSA inefficiency, privatization debate | 16:41–29:01 | | Cost of Living | Rising expenses, bottled water tax | 29:01–52:07 | | Money/Banking | Digital money, credit/debt system | 51:01–60:48 | | Societal Scams | Citizens United, college, UBI | 46:01–88:17 | | Cults/Familial Scams | Duggar case, abuse, religious cults | 67:24–77:31 | | Coping/Positivity | Personal solutions, screen time | 90:15–103:55 |

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a cathartic and at times darkly comedic group therapy session for the modern American—unpacking how the obvious and hidden scams in daily life perpetuate inequality, confusion, and alienation. There’s no utopian fix suggested—just a call to focus on direct relationships, personal integrity, and sometimes, to simply change what’s on your screen.

Closing advice:
"Just try to control what I can control, and then everything else is just beyond me, so I'm not going to worry about that as much." – Chief (103:36)

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If you missed the episode, this summary should provide both the sweep of the conversation and a sense of the personalities and perspectives that fueled it.

Transcript

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Who even know that it's all fake at this point?

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I. I think. I mean, money's fake. Money's kind of scam.

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Yes. It doesn't even exist anymore. It's just on a screen.

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Yeah, it's just. It.

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It's all fake.

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It's all everything.

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I think they're with pmt and yeah,

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they're in Scottsdale or something.

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But it's. I thought it was like a group vacation type deal.

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Oh, is this Max's bachelor party?

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No, because that's in Vegas.

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Okay, so maybe this is.

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I thought it was a spring break thing.

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Maybe.

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Are they. But maybe they're doing work stuff. Yeah. I don't know.

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There's probably golf involved if Hanks there.

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Think they're filming stuff?

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Yeah. PFT is gone.

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Baseball spring training content.

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Spring training is over. Season starts Thursday. I know.

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I have a Wednesday for the Netflix games. Yeah, I don't like it. I don't.

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Like what? Starting too early, starting in March.

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That's insane to me. There should be like a hard, fast rule that baseball can't start until they can't have opening day until the tournament's over. And then I also think that they should run it. They should run opening day how March Madness does Thursday and Friday, where it's on four different channels. You can do quad box. They're cutting the highlights and just be

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like, kind of do that.

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Not really. I mean, they're starting with Netflix one game. Yeah.

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Most of the games on Thursday are all like, you know, they're spaced out.

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I think they should just own that day. And everybody should start on the same day. And you should have half the league schedule start at 1:00 and half the league schedule start in prime time. And maybe a 4 o' clock slate for the west coast teams. And then they're also like, Wrigley Field shouldn't be open in March. That's so stupid. It's going to be 35 degrees.

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I thought it was going to be pretty nice.

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I don't know. I made the 35.

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There will be 35 degree days.

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Yes.

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I think Thursday, it's supposed to be nice.

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I feel like there's enough dome teams.

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High 55.

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That's not bad. What about the next week? Probably fucking cold again.

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Well, there's a low of 30 on Thursday as well.

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Also cold. That was such a kick in the balls too, on Saturday. We had such a nice day and you look at the forecast and it's like, oh, it's supposed to be 70 again tomorrow. Wrong.

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Yep.

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That was the only day it was 70 at midnight. So they counted it and then the temperatures plummeted.

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I don't know that I went outside on Saturday. I think I stayed in and watched basketball the entire day.

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I was out for a bit. It was nice.

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Yeah. This the four days and I'm. I love college basketball. I love the NCAA tournament. Once you get to Sunday, you basketballed out. I'm dragging.

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Yeah.

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And. And UT played Friday. Sunday, which I. I guess gave me a little boost on Sunday that I otherwise would not have had. But it. I mean, you're. By the time I get to Sunday morning, I'm just like, man, we really got to do this again, huh?

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Yeah, I. I almost don't want to say this out loud because I feel like it's sacrilegious.

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No, say it. Because I'm.

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The tournament doesn't hit for me the way that it did 10 years ago.

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Oh, okay. I didn't know you're going to say

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that, but what'd you think I was going to say?

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I thought you were going to say maybe we space out these games a little more.

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No, I mean, it's. I mean, they're spaced out where there's no games again until Thursday. You can.

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Well, I know, but I'm saying we did. We did what, 48 games in four days.

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Yeah. I don't. I think the format's pretty good, but it's just like. I don't know. I used to be able to tell you every coach, every player, every. You know, like, I'm throwing darts. Like, I pick. I pick my bracket the same way my sisters do. They'll be like, oh, I have a friend who went to North Carolina. I like the Washington's colors are purple and gold. I like that I'm not really doing anything different. Like I don't know anything. Well, then you're just.

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That's just because you're not watching.

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Correct.

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So if you watched all year, you would like it more.

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I don't think so. I think I'm not watching all year because I don't like it as much as I used to.

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Yeah. I guess that's a chicken egg thing.

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I'd rather watch hockey. I'd rather watch soccer. I'd rather like the Thursday Nottingham Forest had a Europa League game against Michelin. Some. I don't even. Denmark.

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Oh, Midget land. No, we. We played them one time.

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Yeah. Got the dub, not the brag. But I was like, everyone in the whole World. And everyone in this office was crammed into the two rooms. I was up in my office watching the soccer computer by myself. Because it's just like, I care about this more than whatever's going on.

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Yeah. I'm not there.

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Yeah.

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No, I mean.

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And I still like it.

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I still watched a bunch on this second round was. It was incredible.

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It was great. Iowa, like, great stories, good games, St. John's at the buzzer, all that kind of stuff. Great. Entertaining. But I just, like. I'm just not. And I also don't have a team I care about at all, which might be part of it. Like, you're always vols 100 of the time. I don't.

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Fourth straight sweet 16.

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Yeah. Pretty good. This is the Rick Barnes playing in Chicago. That's basically a Rick Barnes national champion.

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No, no, no, no.

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If he gets.

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No, you're doing a dumb thing. No, no.

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That if.

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Tennessee being in the sweet 16 every single year.

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It's a dynasty.

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It's awesome.

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Yeah, it is.

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We're one of the best programs in the country.

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Agreed. Dynasty.

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We're about to go to a third straight Elite eight.

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Who do you have?

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Iowa State.

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Oh, you're not gonna beat Iowa State. I watch enough of both those teams. Iowa State's a problem.

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Name three players on Iowa State.

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They got the big white kid.

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Okay. They got the Milan Momcilovich, one of the best shooters in the country.

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Yeah. Who's the other white kid that dunks all over the place?

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I'm not sure.

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Look, it. It doesn't matter if I don't know the player.

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Their best player might be out. Josh Jefferson.

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Oh, yeah. He was hurt in that game, but I got eyeballs. And I can look at Tennessee and I can look at Iowa State.

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I guess we'll find out.

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We will find out.

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Mad Dog. Sorry. That.

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Okay.

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I know you were devastated.

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I was. I got to have a lot of fun during the play in game.

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Yeah.

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And that's. And that's good.

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Yeah.

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You know, everyone. Everyone needs that.

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Yeah.

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A little bit of fun. And then reality kicks in.

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We had a March Madness win. Technically.

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That is technically true.

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That is true.

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And that's more than we could say. Pretty much every other year, set a

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record in the game, which was most white boys most three point attempts in a march.

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Oh, yeah. That's all they ever can do.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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I mean, did you watch the game?

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Shot 43.

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Oh, they did.

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I took a ton I didn't know was the most.

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And the one kid I believe it's Peter Suter, all his three point shots have no arc. They just.

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Just like the Ray Allen.

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They just go straight in. Yeah, it was very fun. It was very fun and I got to experience that. And that's kind of all I need. I didn't. You know what? I'm happy that my friend is happy because my team is not as good.

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Thank you. Did you see Tennessee as the only team in the history of the NCAA tournament to play their first two games against teams with 30 wins?

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No, did not see that. Hang another banner.

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Yeah. Be both of them.

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Yeah.

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And Jacoby Gillespie, one of only three players to have 50 points and 15 assists in their first two tournament games. Do you know the other two?

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1. Say it again.

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50 points and 15 assists in the first two games of the NCAA tournament. One is easy. Had like a historic tournament run.

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How recently?

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This century.

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This century, yeah. Historic tournament run. Can I say Darren Williams?

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It's more recent than that.

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More recent than. I'm out.

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Think, like, best run by a point guard in an NCAA tournament in the last 20 years.

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In the last 20 years.

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Best run by, I don't know, Kimmel walker.

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Okay.

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In 2011. And the other one was Billy Donovan, Providence College, 7. Was that for Rick Barnes or did he play for Patino?

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He played for Patino.

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Okay. Yeah, I think Barnes might have been like, the next year.

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Really? I always just associated Barnes. Just like popped up at Texas one day. That's when I started realizing who he was.

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Rick Barnes coached at Providence from 1988 to 1994.

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So, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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He followed Patino. But, yeah, great tournament shout out to High Point. Those guys were fun to watch.

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They were.

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I guess we lacked like a true Cinderella, which I actually think is going to continue to get worse as time goes on.

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But like, we were talking about this on the stretch when I was a kid. There's just like, we went through an insane run with like, Wichita State, vcu, George Mason, Loyola, where we were getting them all the time. Butler before that. It was like a Cinderella. Just meant making the sweet 16, you know, like.

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Sure, but I think even those are going to be.

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You think so?

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Fewer and farther between.

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But would you count Iowa as a Cinderella now?

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Iowa, no. The best coaches in the country. They have an awesome player. They're a power comp. You can't.

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They haven't made the sweet 16. 17 years or whatever.

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You can't be a Cinderella from a power conference. Okay. Cinderella is a school that you don't know where it is.

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Fairly Dickinson.

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Yes.

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Okay. Yeah.

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High Point Would have was. I mean, they. And they played Arkansas down to the wire like they did. They were a really good team.

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Yeah, but you're talking like a Florida Gulf coast and things like that. Okay.

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Yeah. I think to be a Cinderella, you only have to win one game to be a Cinderella. But a Cinderella run, you have to get to the sweet 16 and you have to be a 12 seed or higher.

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All right, how about this? If Iowa makes the Final Four, is that a Cinderella run? No, no.

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It's an incredible tournament. Cinderella has to be a high point, a Fairly Dickinson, a George Major. Yeah.

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Okay.

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And. And another thing that I've seen a lot of people point out is we have so many metrics now that accurately rank these teams 1 to 350 that the. The misleadings that used to happen that would lead to some of that.

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Yeah, that's a good point.

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Like wichita State in 2011 or 12, whatever year that was, they'd have been a four seed.

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Okay, and what were they instead of 12 or 13?

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No, they weren't that high. They were seven or eight.

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Okay, I have another. Speaking of analytics, I think there's too much analytics.

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Okay.

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Like, I don't like being a baseball fan. Like, I don't need to.

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Which I'll say was a nine in 2013.

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Okay. But I don't want to know about X WABA and all the, like, all these different statistics and all. Like. Like there's just too much. Like there's too many stats.

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Do you know what ex WOBA is?

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No.

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Expected weighted on base average.

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Yeah.

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Should look into it. It's a good stat.

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But why is.

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Why.

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Why do I.

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Why do I need to know that it accurately. It more accurately reflects a player's offensive worth than a lot of traditional statistics. WRC plus is the one.

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You should look at weighted runs created plus plus.

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What's the plus? I don't know, but that is a hundred is always baseline. The average player in Major League Baseball. So if a player has a 128, you know, he's 28% better than the average player.

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All right. I think the advanced stats do lend themselves to baseball the best.

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Agreed.

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But like, if I have to look at PFF rankings and it's, oh, pff's fake.

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Don't ever look at pffs.

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Okay. But like, you understand, my point is that they grade out all they have their metrics. Hockey, I think, is the most egregious.

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Hockey, they throw me numbers. And granted, I'm not the biggest hockey guy in the world, but when I see, like, a hockey analytics chart.

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Yeah.

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I mean, they've got stuff up there that may as well be in French,

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but it's just like, there's so many variable. Like, you can't have, like, a WAR equivalent in hockey. Like, it just doesn't. It does not work. Who you're out on the ice with. When you're out on the ice where, you know, like, there's. Are your. Are your chances coming at the end of a shift? Are they against the other team's best players? Are you playing with other good players? Like, there's just too many variables. And then there's all these people who, like, I remember I got into, like, a big Internet fight about Seth Jones when the Blackhawks traded for him. And there was like, Seth Jones was like, Seward here on the Internet before he even laced up his skates, because everyone was like, this guy had created a chart that said in. You know, it was like, red was good and blue was bad, and Seth Jones had too much blue on this little PDF, and it's like, oh, well, he sucks. What a terrible trade. And, like, he had a hard time with the Blackhawks because the Blackhawks sucked, and then they trade him to the Panthers, and what do you know? He's awesome. It's just because he need. Like, you have to have good players around you to have your metrics reflected. So if your metrics can only reflect the whole team, then don't give me individual player metrics because they just don't matter. They can't matter.

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Yeah. Hockey's a weird one, too, because, like, the stats are just so different than other sports.

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Yeah.

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That, like, it's. It's like, plus minus is a huge deal.

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No. Plus, minus. They.

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People. We don't care anymore.

[A]

No. And that one does kind of make a little bit of sense to me. I think it makes.

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I always thought it was a dumb stat.

[A]

It. I think it's a good stat over an entire season, maybe because you have enough data points. But plus minus, it's in a game you might have. If you're minus two, but you lost two, nothing. But you played 25 minutes. It's just like, you could step on the ice, the other team could be scoring a goal, and it's like, well, whatever. I think over time, with, you know, a full season worth of Data, if you're minus 30, that's not the best thing.

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Sure.

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But if it's over, like, a game or two here or there, like, I just don't think it's reflective of how you play.

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Okay, well, that's how much I follow the hockey analytics.

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Well, you should, actually. I'm sorry I told you this because I don't want you to look into it further. I don't want you to.

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I promise I won't. The extent of my hockey knowledge is I know the Preds have won four or five in a row.

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They're hot.

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We're back. Yeah, we're. We're back.

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I think you're. You're in a playoff spot right now.

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I think they're tied for it.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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[C]

No, we specifically drove because we didn't want to deal with the airports.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Which was. I mean, ended up being the right decision.

[B]

I saw this morning in Atlanta, the line was outside, which. In the Atlanta airport, the Security is not right. When you get to the front door, you get to baggage claim, then you walk through, like, some shops and stuff, and then there's the security line, and it snakes for quite a while before you even get to where the baggage claim could be a possibility.

[A]

So my dad has to go to Atlanta for meetings this week. He's driving from Chicago because he's just like, I'm not.

[B]

I'm not. Yeah.

[A]

So he's driving to Nashville and then staying overnight and then Nashville to Atlanta.

[B]

So Nashville, I think, is like eight from here, and then Atlanta's another four.

[A]

Yeah. So it's like, it's like 11 or 12 hours. I'm sure he'll be. That's stepping on it. I mean, but it's like, would you rather do that or would you rather. He's like. I was like, that's kind of crazy because he's 70 and he's like, no, I need time where I can just think. I won't be able to think in the airport. I just want to look at the windshield and think about things like, all right, well, God.

[B]

And I feel that. But once I hit like, six, I'm like, I really wish I wasn't driving anymore.

[A]

Well, I think that's why he's breaking it up.

[B]

Yeah. But.

[A]

Yeah, and I don't blame him. I've got Sidney Wells wedding and what, once today's date, we'll call it seven weeks flying into Atlanta. I'm already being like, maybe we should cancel the flights and just drive.

[B]

It's not going to be that long, right?

[A]

I don't know. They might still be in. The people in these tweets that you sent today might still be in security. It was an hour and 53 minute wait at 6am or it could be

[C]

like this, where it was like, they open up, but then they shut down again for whatever reason. Like, we had this three months ago.

[B]

What is going on there?

[C]

Sean Duffy, I. I hate you.

[A]

The guy from Real World.

[C]

It's the secretary of.

[B]

Well, they're calling out of work, right?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

They're like, we're not showing.

[C]

Well, they're. They're not getting paid.

[B]

Well, that's another reason we should privatize it.

[C]

But that. We're not here for that right now, though.

[A]

Privatize what?

[C]

Tsa.

[A]

Tsa. How about. I'll do you one better.

[B]

Let's just not have it.

[A]

Let's just get rid of tsa.

[B]

I'm listening. I don't know that I'm on Board, but I'm listening.

[A]

Okay, so. Because like, this is the whole thing where it's like, oh, like, if you don't want to go through tsa, you just get, you know, clear or whatever, you can skip the line. Enough of this. It's been 25 years since we've had a major airline incident. And there was nothing really before that. Make everybody just walk through a metal detector or whatever, scan your passport and be on your way.

[C]

I have.

[B]

I mean, how is that different than what we're doing now?

[A]

Because you're taking your shoes off your. Sometimes you do. Don't, Don't. Don't start the. Eddie, I can't do this anymore.

[B]

No, it's. You don't have to take them off anymore.

[A]

Bins. The bins are a problem. They're X raying everything. And I would. I would say that now that you lock the cabin doors. Good. But like, is it. Is there any more of a threat on a bus or a train than there is on an airplane?

[B]

Well, I've thought that as well, you just walk right on to an Amtrak. I'm like, I mean, someone could blow this up right now. I want there to be some, you know, level of security, but also like, I think we could find somebody. Like, why. Let's just let. Clear. Run it clear. Bring in your metal detectors and let. Let's do that. Because. Because right now we have it tied to the government, which makes sense in theory because they, you know, the FAA runs the airports and stuff. But like, I mean, we can't have this.

[A]

This is the disaster.

[C]

The only thing with Chief's thing is I. Chief's point is I do feel it's similar to the vaccine issue. Not obviously, not really, but we. Where people don't give their kids vaccines. Cause they're like, well, there is no. People don't have measles anymore. It's like, well, people don't have measles anymore because there's no. Because we have vaccines that eradicate measles. I fear if we take away tsa, they're like, well, bombings don't happen on planes anymore. Is that because we have tsa, though?

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

TSA is pretty ineffective, though. I think I saw they don't catch like 60 something percent of weapons that go through.

[A]

Yeah, they're bad.

[C]

They catch my hairspray, but they can't catch a gun.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, correct.

[B]

I don't think it's guns. I think it's, you know. Yeah, but still.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. And I don't know enough about the measles. I was. I can't remember what I was watching. Maybe just a tick tock where they were showing an old clip from the Brady Bunch talking about the measles and about how like, it was just nothing like, oh, I got the measles. Stay home, I got a fever. And then you're back. So I don't know what, what do you even happens when you get the measles?

[C]

I don't know, because I had the measles vaccine.

[A]

Yeah, I did. I didn't have that, I think when it was that around. Because I didn't have the chickenpox one either because it came out after I was older. I remember like getting the chickenpox when I was 4.

[C]

Measles is a highly contagious viral infection causing high fever, cough, red watery eyes, and a spreading skin rash, mostly affecting. Mostly affecting unvaccinated children.

[A]

But, like, do you die?

[C]

I'm sure that you don't. I mean, I'm sure there are cases where people die.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I don't think it's like a fatal thing. But again, I'm sure as most illnesses, there are obviously complications.

[A]

Probably cases. Yeah.

[B]

Undercover investigators working for the Department of Homeland Security's Office of the Inspector General managed to sneak fake guns, knives and explosives through checkpoints earlier this year, getting the mock weapons through 70% of the time. The unclassified summary noted, quote, we identified vulnerabilities within TSA screener performance screening equipment and associated procedures. So they're not stopping 70% of weapons anyway. Then they just decide we're not working anymore. Let's. Let's find somebody that'll do this correctly.

[C]

Not getting paid. So why would they work?

[B]

Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. If we don't have it tied to every government shutdown that happens every two months, then they'd be getting paid.

[A]

What do they get paid? What is.

[B]

I can't imagine.

[A]

What does TSA cost nationally every year?

[C]

So you're asking how does the budget budget?

[B]

I'm going to guess we spend $42 billion on TSA.

[A]

You'd be shocked. You're getting a deal.

[B]

Really?

[A]

11.8 billion for fiscal year 2025.

[B]

Okay,

[A]

so this is funding security operations such as 5.5 billion for the frontline screening workforce and 98.5 million for exit lanes. How the fuck can an exit lane almost 100 million? What does that mean? What's an exit lane? Just you're standing there putting your shoes back on.

[B]

No, I think that's when you're leaving the airport and they're like, this is last stop. You can't go back.

[A]

That costs $100 million a year.

[B]

Maybe the people who sit there. Yeah, probably so. Think of how many airports each of those guys is making.

[C]

Multiple exits.

[B]

55 grand.

[C]

Yes. How does it. How much does it.

[A]

All right, all right, T, I got a question for you. Let's say that it is privatized and clear some other agency comes in to run it. Would you then be okay in theory with. For your bag charges or you're baking another $5 because they're saying it's $5.50 per one way trip is how much it costs for tsa.

[B]

They're saying that's what it breaks down to per passenger.

[A]

That's what it's. Yeah. So if they just bake that into your. As a line.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, with every fee an airline has throw that in there, nobody will even notice.

[A]

I'm saying it's.

[B]

It's already exorbitant.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

It is.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I would pay that to never have to worry about waiting in a seven hour line.

[A]

Yeah, I would too. And I'm already paying. I already do. The clear. Clear is I think I just got the bill is like 209 bucks a year. Something like that.

[B]

Yeah. I actually have to renew my. When you. Because is there not a TSA fee now? I feel like I've seen TSA somewhere. When you look at an airline ticket and like what it breaks down to. Let me see if I can find on these ones I have right now, I feel like there's something in there that says tsa.

[A]

Let's see if I just bought the tickets for Sydney's wedding. So let's see.

[C]

Like you're saying from the airlines, there's.

[B]

Yeah. Like when you buy a ticket and there's all the taxes and fees and stuff in there, there's something that says

[A]

TSA taxes and carrier imposed fees. It doesn't break down what the carrier imposed fees are.

[B]

I just, I just sent myself a receipt of a flight I have coming up. Let's see if I can get into it. I don't know why you won't show me the receipt on your app and I have to email it to myself. You could just show me.

[A]

Mine doesn't do. Mine doesn't do a line item. It just says taxes. It's $155.34 plus taxes and carrier imposed fees totaling $27.05.

[B]

Okay. So on my ticket, I have a US transportation tax, that's $43. I have a US flight segment tax, that's $10. I have a passenger civil aviation security service fee, that's $11.20. And you know what? The TSA budget is largely funded by a $5.60 per one way trip passenger fee. Multiply that by two. What is that? That's 1120. So that's exactly what that is.

[A]

So then what the fuck?

[B]

So when you pay your passenger civil aviation security service fee, that's $11.20. That is the exact amount they've calculated that it costs to run tsa. You're already paying that.

[A]

So then. Okay, so then why aren't they being paid? This is what I mean.

[B]

Like, because it's through the government and the government is shut down in quotation marks. They're still taking my money last I checked. But they're shut down.

[A]

Yeah, but then they, that if, but this is one of the, this is one of those things where it's like the government is shut down, but if it's already funded by the people who use it.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Then why would it be shut down? Just put it in a separate bucket.

[B]

The military is gonna be run by someone who will do it correctly, but

[A]

the military is in a separate bucket. I'm pretty sure every time I open my phone I'm seeing things that the military is still very active. So if they're, if the government is shut down, just put, put this in a separate bucket and then just draw from their own funds, which we are currently paying.

[B]

Yeah, I'm looking on this ticket. I'm paying $72 in some sort of tax that says the United States on it.

[A]

God damn.

[B]

Broken down into four different categories. So figure this out.

[A]

Is there it out? Yeah, I mean that's what I, that's

[B]

what they'd be at work if they worked for. Clear. So.

[A]

But it's like, that's where it's like this is only an excuse when they want it to be an excuse. Because if, when they need, then they need the funds for things that they want to do, they're always there.

[C]

Seems like the funds for your honor aplenty.

[A]

They're humming. They got plenty. Gas prices keep going up though, right.

[B]

I pay groceries, ridiculous amount for gas.

[A]

I was out, I had to go out to my parents house on Saturday. And I always like try to time up my trips when my gas tanks running low so I can have that nice suburban urban gas price.

[B]

And I cooked.

[A]

It was 4.45 in like a farm town.

[B]

Well I messed up and I needed to get gas. The other day around here, I was like, I couldn't go another day without doing it. And I went to the gas station around the corner. It was 470.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The one by my house is 519. Holy.

[B]

I always try to do it when I'm, like, going to church or somewhere out in the suburbs, or I'll go to Costco, but I had to get it here.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's crazy.

[A]

It's infuriating.

[C]

Very. Yeah. I just. I've been. I've been avoiding plane travel because I have a flight in two weeks. I'm terrified.

[A]

Yep. You know what? Let's just stay home. Like, if the government's going on strike, I'm going on strike. I like not paying anything. I'm staying home. I'm not spending any money. Fuck you guys. I'm out.

[C]

Impossible.

[A]

Don't make me start making my own food. You want me to grow. Do you know it's illegal to grow your own wheat? Someone was telling me that that can't be accurate.

[C]

Light for bread.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I don't know, but I'm calling Cap.

[A]

Let me see.

[C]

Colin. Cap Ernick.

[A]

Okay. However, large quantities is restricted under federal law regarding production quotas. And saving seeds from protected patented varieties is illegal.

[C]

I'm seeing that it's not illegal.

[A]

Yeah. So you can grow.

[B]

There's patented wheat.

[A]

There's patented everything.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Okay, so because they do the GMO and then they own that genetic material, this is like a big scandal. Because. Scandal, controversy. Because since the beginning of time, farmers would keep some seeds for next year's crop. Now they can't. Because if you retain seeds from, like, corn or whatever, Monsanto or these big ag companies will be like, hey, you're stealing our ip. You have to buy that from us. So you can't just retain seeds from your previous year's harvest to replant, which is the basis of agriculture since the beginning of time. Because that. They will claim that they have sued and won, saying that farmers are stealing their ip.

[B]

So you pay, you buy the seeds, use it once.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

And then you have to use it. It's a user. Lose it.

[A]

Right. So, but historically, forever, you would keep a percentage of your seeds to replant for next year's harvest. Because you obviously always have. You know, if you have a bushel of corn or a thing of corn, that's all just seeds on the outside with a little germ. So you would keep that, and you can make another whole field of Corn with like a bushel of corn. But now they will sue you for not rebuying it because it's like, well, we own the IP on that seed, so we own that seed. So if you didn't buy it from us directly, then you're in violation of our patents by growing your own corn.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

It does say on here. Did you say this, that specifically over 15 acres, it requires government certification.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, I mean, that makes sense if you're running like a large commercial farm, that you'd be subject to the. Why the FDA or whatever. I'm not saying I think that's great. I'm just saying I think you should be.

[A]

Yeah. If you want to. If you want to ensure that it's a safe product. But I think this is more about, like, price controls.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

I don't like that. This is America, goddammit.

[B]

We got a lot of. We got a lot of gripes that all go back to one spot.

[A]

Yeah,

[B]

man.

[A]

This is supposed to be a nation of farmers. Ever read about Thomas Jefferson? Yep.

[B]

Yeah, I'm worried about that. That 6am flight out of my bachelor party. If this thing still goes, keeps going.

[C]

If this thing is still rocking by the time it's your bachelor party.

[A]

When's Your bachelor party?

[B]

May 1st.

[A]

Oh, you're in big trouble, dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What?

[B]

I'll just have to go straight from. Straight from the casino night before.

[A]

These people might still be in line.

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[C]

I also.

[B]

And I, like, had to be somewhere.

[C]

I saw a tweet that. Maybe I'm dumb for agreeing, but it's like, who's getting on these planes? If the TSA line is four hours long, are these planes just leaving with, like, half filled?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Airlines run empty planes all the time because they have to run a certain amount of flights out of airports to, like, maintain their spots. So they'll just run empty flights all the time.

[C]

That seems wasteful because they had.

[B]

The flight has to leave in order. So if you're Southwest.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you want to be at. They just. They just went into Knoxville's airport. So if you want to maintain your relationship with that airport or whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You have to have a certain number of flights take off and land, even

[A]

if there's no real demand for it.

[B]

Correct. So they will run empty flights because they've already budgeted the cost of that flight anyway. They don't care. So they're all credit card companies anyway. That's another thing we could talk about. So they'll just. They. The plane just leaves empty and comes back. I think some of them. They do intentionally look this up. I think they will intentionally run some empty planes for that reason.

[A]

But I guess I don't understand the. So it's more valuable just to theoretically have a spot at the Knoxville airport, then to. Then you make up the difference in that it's more valuable.

[B]

I guess so, yeah. Here's an article from 2022. Thousands of planes are flying empty and no one can stop them. Is the headline. A pre pandemic policy on airport usage is pressuring airlines to keep ghost flights in the air. The climate impact is massive. So I guess this is a. This is a climate thing. But that. That is a thing.

[A]

That's. But. Okay, now, this might be a stupid question. Are there any airports that are not owned by municipalities?

[C]

Isn't it, like, really small ones?

[B]

I Don't know.

[A]

Like, any major airports.

[B]

I mean. Yeah. Everyone I've gone to, it's always, you know, the mayor is on the loudspeaker.

[A]

Yeah. No, major commercial airports in the United States are almost exclusively public. Publicly owned and operated. Huh? Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't think there's an answer to this problem.

[B]

In January 2022, analysis from Greenpeace claimed that more than 100,000 ghost flights would sail over European skies this winter.

[A]

Damn. How do I get on one of those? Yeah, because. And are you even allowed to buy tickets on those?

[B]

No, I think some of them. They just do that.

[A]

So then you probably don't have to staff it either. So you probably.

[B]

Yeah, you just have to have the pilots. Yes,

[A]

well.

[B]

But do you remember that analysis that came out a couple years ago about. I think it was specifically Delta, but it's pretty much every airline now is just a credit card company that runs flights.

[A]

No, explain that.

[B]

Oh, like, they don't make money on flying people. It's just points they actually might lose a little bit.

[A]

It's just interest.

[B]

Credit cards. Like, Delta is a credit card company.

[A]

This. Why is everything a credit card company? If I go into J.

[B]

Crew, would you like our credit card?

[A]

No, actually, I wouldn't. Okay. And I don't care. If you can give me one time, 25% off this sweater. I'm about to buy it. Just like, who cares? Like, why are they pushing that every single time you check out? That must be such a core part of their business. What is the national credit card debt up to?

[B]

Oh, there's no telling. I'll guess this, too. But I'm going to be. It's got to be trillions. I'm going to say it's $17 trillion.

[C]

Okay. You're way off.

[A]

He's not off with the T part.

[C]

He's not off with the T part. He's off with the number, though.

[A]

1.28 trillion.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

A 5.5% increase year over year.

[C]

The average debt per borrower is around $6,300.

[B]

That's crazy. I don't understand.

[A]

Like, I'm terrified of credit.

[C]

Same.

[B]

Me, too. I have one begrudgingly, because I paid off my student loans and they tanked my credit score because I no longer had. I no longer had debt. You want to talk about a scam? Let's just do scams. We're doing scams today.

[A]

This is like, I argue. I've argued with, like. Because I. I don't use them. I Don't I? Like I have my debit card or I'll do cash and I have a credit card, obviously, but like I don't like to use it. And they're like, well just pay it off every month and you get your points. I don't fucking want to participate in that system.

[B]

I don't either. But that's how they get you. No, the points are bullshit. You get, for every thousand dollars you spend, you get 10 cents. It's, it's a load of. And they, I, I, I vividly remember the morning that I got an email. It was like, your credit score dropped 112 points. You're like, after I, because I paid off my student loans and I was this, I, I was so mad. I was so viscerally angry.

[A]

And it's like, because I did the right thing.

[B]

Penalizing me. Yes. So I finally, against my will, got one credit card and I pay it off daily.

[A]

Daily?

[B]

Yes. Like every time it comes up, it's like you owe $47. I pay it. Like I don't even let, I can't fathom spending money on a credit card that I didn't have it, I wouldn't be able to sleep.

[A]

And it's like this whole thing with like credit scores in general because like now I'm house hunting again, right? And it's like they didn't even have credit. Like credit scores is like a modern idea. Credit cards weren't widely used until the late 80s. So like our parents were buying homes and they would just have to show that they had money in the bank, show their, you know, your W2s and you know, your, I don't know, your latest employment statement, which they can still

[B]

do, by the way.

[A]

Not only can they still do, they do still do because I just had to send in all these documents to get pre approved and then it's always, you know, then they have your credit score as well and, and then, so I use one guy in particular, my mortgage guy, and then they get, you know, he gets you approved or whatever. But I noticed the thing that my credit score dropped 43 points and it's because, because why, why does it drop? Because they're checking to see if I can be approved and it's like nothing has changed and it's just, but the fact that they look at it drops your credit.

[B]

This actually is, I think it's the biggest scam we got going.

[A]

It might be, it might just be.

[B]

And we live in a world of scams. This is the biggest one.

[A]

Like, but like make that make sense. Like you paying off a debt. That's good. Objectively good.

[B]

I was very happy about it.

[A]

As you should.

[B]

That I didn't.

[A]

I don't think your bank said this to you. So I'm gonna say congratulations on paying off your student.

[B]

Thank you. And then I, I was, I, I paid it off. You know, I didn't have to carry that into my 30s and 40s like a lot of people do. I'm very sympathetic to that. And they just immediate, you know what?

[A]

Fuck you. Yeah, we're not going to get extra money out of you.

[B]

Yeah, fuck you. I mean they will just. Yeah. I, the credit score is the worst thing we got going.

[A]

Why does, how did this, how did everything get so fucked? I feel like everything is like, how does, like when you're presenting this and this is a thing that has to be. It's used by everyone. And then there's multiple. Like I, my credit score went down 43 points because I had one lender check my score. If you're one of these people that are using multiples, then you have 3, 4, 5 pings on your credit report. You get tanked a ton.

[B]

And that's what it's for, by the way. When they use it for its sole intended purpose.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It drops. How does, how is that legal?

[A]

I don't, that's what I mean. Like who is in, who is in charge? Who's in charge?

[B]

I'd like to know. I'd love to know. It's nobody that we voted for, I'll tell you that.

[A]

It might be.

[B]

Probably is the people that are in charge of this. You'll never know their names, but they're still.

[A]

Yeah, but it's still like we'll never know their names, the people who are in charge of it. But they're getting appointed by people who we probably voted for.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And you guys too.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean this didn't come about a year ago.

[C]

Okay. So. No. They're all up.

[A]

There's only one party in this country

[C]

that's like it's versus or it's upper class versus the rest of us.

[A]

Correct. We need, we need a revolution. A class based revolution.

[B]

You and you and Aryan.

[A]

Yeah, buddy.

[C]

Credit scores, specifically the FICO score, which is the one that everyone uses.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Were invented in 1956 by an engineer, Bill Fair. You. Bill Fair and mathematician Earl Isaac, who founded Fair, Isaac and Company. They aim to create a standardized, objective and data driven system for lenders to evaluate borrower credit worthiness. Replacing subjective assessments which on its surface,

[A]

the way that's described, fine, you know, but it's like where it. This thing where it's like you get penalized for people looking at it, which

[B]

is why it exists.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

There are so many things we have in society right now that just. We accept because they've existed for a long time, that if I pitch to you, you would look at me like I was the craziest person in the world if. Well, I have some of these would get me in trouble. But we, we accept a lot of shit that. That is. If you. If you were proposing it for the first time, you'd be a nutjob.

[A]

Yeah, I think about that. With all taxes. With all taxes.

[B]

It's one of them.

[A]

That's like how we founded this country was like, I'm not fucking paying taxes on that.

[B]

And then guess what? You pay the tax for the tsa.

[C]

T not open taxation without representation is correct.

[A]

I agree, by the way.

[C]

This is literally taxation representation. You're taxing me for an airline ticket and I'm not even getting the fucking TSA agent correct. That actually is like.

[A]

And they're going to. But then they'll say like, you are represented. But I don't feel.

[C]

I don't feel represented.

[A]

I don't feel represented. I feel very disenfranchised.

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[B]

That's the United Citizens United.

[A]

Citizens United, which. What a fuck name that is because it's the opposite of that. It's just corporations United.

[C]

I don't get what that, I don't get that one.

[A]

So basically there's a Supreme Court ruling because there's always been limits on how much you can give to a candidate for a particular cause. Like Elon gave $400 million 30 years ago. That would not have been allowed legally. There's a cap. And then they decided that through. That's when you had like the creation of super PACs. And because they're like spending your money is. They ruled that it's a form of free speech and it's political speech, so you should be allowed to spend whatever you want on different congressional or presidential races. And because that became a free speech issue, that the Supreme Court actually ruled that. Yeah, like corporations are people too. So now if you thought there were special interest problems before, now it's just like they have unlimited amounts of money to throw around at. Like they could buy candidates. And like people, everyone sitting here, we have constraints with our money. We're competing for voices against major corporations in the political sphere. And it's just like this is how things get way off the rails.

[C]

Wait, did I hear you right? So this is basically how super PACs can have the right to exist without.

[A]

Super PACs became legal in 2010 following the Supreme Court ruling in Citizens United versus Federal Election Commission.

[C]

They only became legal in 12.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I mean. Like I, I remember when, like I never heard that term until Romney was running against Obama in 12. And I was like, what super PAC? I had heard of like political action committee, a PAC. But then like super PACs became its own different thing.

[C]

Oh my God, it makes me sick to my frickin stomach.

[A]

The Citizens United ruling January 21, 2010 determined that independent political spending is a form of free speech and protected by the First Amendment. So then they could just do whatever they wanted.

[B]

All right, what are more scams? What else are they getting us on? I mean, beside the obvious.

[A]

What's the obvious?

[B]

I mean, just, you know, they, they get you on everything.

[A]

They do. Get you on everything.

[B]

You, you get your paycheck.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You've already paid taxes. Then you go to buy gas, you pay sales tax on that. Plus there's a gas tax. Do you know, do you know about the Chicago bottled water tax?

[A]

No. Tell me about it.

[C]

T. Or the plastic bags? Sorry.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.

[C]

And 7 cents 15 at Trader Joe's.

[B]

That's so agreed. Okay, that's another.

[C]

Paid 30 cents at Trader Joe's. Last night just so they could put my groceries in a frickin bag.

[B]

Anyways, let me see. I have my receipt from the last time.

[C]

I'm just too lazy to bring my reusable bag sometimes.

[A]

So sometimes it's like I'm stopping on my way home from work. I didn't have time to bring my own bag.

[B]

I'm not. You shouldn't have to make that excuse.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Give me the. The grocery bags.

[A]

Now, I will say Whole Foods covers it for you, but they charge you an arm and a leg for everything else.

[C]

But look, I'm taking out a frickin loan for my Whole Foods. Anyways. My credit score is going up based on my Whole Foods attendance because of my loan that I take out to get my parmesan cheese from Whole Foods or whatever.

[A]

It's good parm, though.

[B]

So I am. I will only drink bottled water, okay? Maybe that makes me an asshole. I don't know.

[A]

I just.

[B]

I won't.

[A]

I buy like gallon jugs.

[B]

Yeah. I don't do. I won't do tap water. It's disgusting. I won't do it.

[A]

Not in this city.

[C]

I like Chicago tap water.

[B]

Okay, Brita, I bought the other day two 24 packs of bottled water, okay? It costs $6.98 for the 48 bottles. Do you know what the Chicago bottled water tax on that is? No. Two dollars and forty cents.

[C]

What?

[B]

It's 30%. I don't know if that. I don't know how that breaks down, but it was 30% of the, of the purchase.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What is that? I'm already paying taxes on it. What is the bottled water tax here?

[A]

And that. I'm sure that's like a green initiative thing for single use plastics and whatever. But like this is where I get so annoyed with the government in general because it's like I am taxed on everything, to your point. And all I hear about is the debt. Like the city, Cook County, Chicago, unbelievable debt. This big balloon looming. They can't pay it off. They got to raise property taxes. I think we're what as a country, like $39 trillion in debt or something.

[B]

Even though it's all fake at this

[A]

point, I think, I mean, money's fake. Money is.

[B]

Yes, yes. It doesn't even exist anymore. It's just on a screen.

[A]

Yeah, it's just.

[B]

It's all fake.

[A]

It's all. Everything is fake. I've been saying money's fake for forever. Like I don't, I don't get. It's like what do you mean it's tied to nothing? It's just like, oh, it's consumer. It's just confidence in it. So if we're all just like, I don't believe in it, the dollar would crash.

[B]

Yes. It doesn't exist.

[A]

I, When, When I have conversations like this, I get really worried that we're in end times because I do think

[C]

that eventually, like in the end credits,

[A]

I think, yeah, like the jig is gonna be up and there's nothing coming be behind it. And so when people are talking about, like, what's going on with Iran and it's like how the oil prices are going crazy, but then we like, lifted sanctions on them so they could sell it. So there's more in the market. But then they're gonna. They're selling it directly to China and they're using the yuan, which hurts us because we're. It threatens us as a Federal reserve currency. And the only reason our economy still works and our dollar still works is because it's a federal reserv. Like, if we lose that, I think we're just fucked. I think there is no more money. Like, and this is.

[B]

I'm getting. This was bad. We shouldn't have done this.

[A]

No, no. Speaking of the money part, though. So when you go, you know this thing where you go with the bank, right?

[B]

What do you mean, this thing?

[A]

Well, you go, let's say we'll use round numbers again. You deposit a hundred dollars in the bank.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. They can loan out 90% of that. Yeah.

[B]

They don't have any of it.

[A]

They don't have it.

[B]

That's why they're paying you interest.

[A]

Right. Okay, but then. So they give that. Let's say they give $90 of it out. That person who received the $90 loan can then put it in the bank. So it's all fake. It's just on transaction.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So they put $90 in the bank

[B]

to set up something else.

[A]

They can take 90% of that. So now it's just like they're that. And that can go on forever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So they're like. That's what I mean. Where there's really. No, there's nothing.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

There's not. There's no money anywhere. I know. If there was like, if the. If people just.

[B]

And by the way, the money you're depositing in the bank is already. You're just putting it from this number on the screen to the other screen. It's not even. You're going to deposit it.

[A]

Right. So it's all digital Which I understand too. But like, in theory, if it was like an actual. Even if this would apply even if it was a hard currency, because it's just like, they're just loaning it out and just, it's all just. Could just be paper.

[B]

Let me ask you this. So I get my paycheck, it's deposited into my bank account.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't, I haven't used cash and I don't know how long. Everything I do, I just tap my phone. So I tap my phone to get the money from the bank that barstool put in there that they just transferred from some other. How far back do I have to go before there was a real dollar? Is there ever one?

[A]

Well, I mean, that was. Nixon took us off the gold standard.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So back then.

[B]

Oh, but I'm just saying, literally, is there a physical dollar that is even at any point part of that?

[A]

So I'm sure you've seen like the mints where they actually like make the money and like comes out and like paper sheets. Right. But when you talk about this is a thing that I don't understand. So where they're like, oh, we need to take more money out of the system and they raise interest rates or whatever. I'm like, well, are they just slowing down like that? Because like, no one uses cash anymore. So how do they even keep track?

[B]

It's just all banks, like, I think I forget what the number is. Look up the number of what percentage of bills we have in circulation. Or hundreds. It's like 95%. It's all hundred dollar bills. Because it's just the banks, like all the cash we have isn't even.

[A]

I don't even know what you're saying right now.

[B]

You're saying, where is the money going? Because nobody uses cash.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All the cash is just in banks. It's all hundred dollar bills. If you see the money we print, it's just all hundreds.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like the ones and 20s that you have in your pocket is like 5% of our cash reserves.

[A]

Why is it all in hundreds?

[B]

Because the only, the only time the cash like even exists is going from bank to bank.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like it never even really goes out into circulation. I believe that's. Check me on that.

[A]

Well, I'm going to look up something else. What percentage of money in the US system is physical cash?

[B]

As of 2025, $100 bills accounted for approximately 83% of the total value of all US currency in circulation.

[A]

Cash in circulation Roughly 2.1 trillion in US currency is in circulation with about 50 to 70% of these notes held outside of the United States.

[B]

Where's that?

[A]

I don't know. I'm reading these things and I feel like I understand less than 1% of this.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What does this mean?

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

That's the point, chief. That's what they want. They want you to think to not know. And even though it might be a simple concept, they want you to not know. So then you don't ask questions because you're like, well, I don't get it.

[B]

Here, watch your basketball.

[A]

But I'm not afraid to sound or look stupid.

[C]

I'm not saying you do, but that's what they want. That's like how investment banking and shit works. They just use fancy fucking words to throw you off. It's not a complex topic. They're just, like, using fancier and crazier terms to throw the common man off.

[A]

Yeah. So then I just go and watch a tournament and.

[B]

Yeah, enjoy. Now, with that said, Vols are in the sweet 16. I'm excited about it. I'm still going to watch.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But things can be true at once.

[B]

But at some point, I mean, we're. This is crazy what's going on.

[A]

This is what I mean. And, like, I don't understand, like, someone there to me, like, the government shouldn't be allowed to just run on credit like that.

[B]

Well, I understand. We're past that.

[A]

I know we're way past that. But it's just like. And then I remember watching this. Oh, what was that show? It was a bad show. I liked the first season. Newsroom. Oh, remember that show?

[B]

Terrible show.

[C]

Right. Now, the concept of the Newsroom, the show with.

[A]

Was it Jeff Daniels?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. What's going viral about it?

[C]

That people are saying they need a. The Pit, but for a local newsroom. And they're like, no, we had that. It was the newsroom. It was really bad. And then someone posted the scene of spoiler. I don't know of the people 10 years old. So people on the plane telling the pilot that they killed Osama bin Laden.

[B]

It's one of the worst scenes in the history of television.

[C]

And it was, like, remarkably uncomfortable to watch.

[A]

Yeah. But to your point before, about how they try to make it complicated. They're. They were. It was Olivia Munn talk about how unrealistic TV can be. Was a financial analyst, and she was being someone was like, well, why isn't it just the same as, like, balancing your checkbook? She's like, it is 13 million times more difficult to balance the federal government. But it's like it should just be money in, money out. And like World War II. I remember reading somewhere that part of the reason why they decided to drop the nukes on Japan was like, we are out of money. Like, we've. We've done all the. And they would raise money through war bonds where people would buy, like, a savings bond that went to the War Department for munitions and tanks and planes and everything like that. And then it was like, look at. We're. We just don't have enough money in the reserves to. To invade Japan. So let's drop these bombs to see if we can get them to just quit. And we also didn't think that we could get. We could conquer all of Japan before the Russians just tried to jump in, like, the north of Japan too. So it's just like we're kind of like up against the clock and it's like, well, what do you mean? We government doesn't run out of money, but like a generation ago or, I don't know, 80 years ago, that was a real concern. The biggest conflict in the history of the world, that it was going to end over capital. But it's like, no, like something switched where now it's just like it just doesn't matter.

[B]

And we probably had. Who knows how much money we probably had.

[A]

We had Fort Knox, which is now empty, obviously.

[B]

It's all empty, brother.

[A]

It's. That's what I mean.

[B]

But there's nothing anywhere.

[A]

That's what I mean where I get scared that, like, eventually, like, the jig is up and it's just like we're just going to enter into some feudal chaos state where it's just like, you just. Everyone's talking about, you know, support your local and buy local. We will not have a choice in the near future where it's just like everything is to going gone. Because everyone's just like, this is fake. We're going to be back on a barter system.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What happens when it all goes to shit? Like, do we go back to the, like 1500s dark ages?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. I think we're. I'm going to make the mistake that everyone made in 2008. I feel like it's kind of too big at this point to have that happen.

[C]

And you're a nothing ever happens guy.

[B]

Well, that's what I'm saying. I don't. I don't think, like, now the economy might collapse. To what degree that happens, I don't know. But I don't think we could ever go like that. It would stop existing.

[A]

So that I have a fundamental issue with the. How 2008 was handled, as I'm sure you do too. But there's almost. There's that thing called. It's like the Tower of Babel, right? Or Tower of Babel, where it's like, too big to fail is not really ever a thing. It's always historically, and there are many examples throughout history where it's so big that it has to fail that it can't sustain itself because it's too big and too far reaching and that eventually it just collapses on the weight of itself. And I think this whole thing is just like artificially propped up.

[C]

That's what that fucking freak Sam Altman says about AI, that it's too big to fail.

[A]

And then, oh, I think we should let that fit.

[B]

That's another scam.

[A]

That's a bubble.

[C]

Government will bail us out. That's what he says. He's like.

[A]

Because they're. I don't blame him for saying that because there is precedent for that.

[C]

But it's like, why is that my problem?

[A]

It's not and it shouldn't be.

[C]

But I'm gonna have to fucking pay taxes for when OpenAI, like collapses under the pressure of the. Of it ruining my. My dearly beloved state of Ohio from their fucking data centers. Then I gotta fucking pay taxes on the fact that OpenAI filed for bankruptcy because they have zero profit. So why is that my problem?

[B]

They also want to charge you as a utility.

[C]

Right. And they want to take my brain and they want to sell it back to me.

[A]

I see you, Sam Altman, the devil incarnate.

[C]

Literally. Nobody likes him. No.

[A]

And not only that.

[C]

Do you not. I can't, like, I can't get on it with him. Like, he genuinely makes me more. Him and Sean Duffy. I feel like I'm the only one talking about how awful Sean Duffy is sometimes. Those two, I want them taken down.

[A]

I don't know enough about Sean Duffy. What's his face when we flew out to San Francisco, was sitting ahead of Nikki Smokes, Mayor Pete, on the. On our flight out to San Francisco for the Super Bowl. I was like, do you know who that is? He's like, no.

[C]

He's the one that used to make all this happen.

[B]

Correct. That's. You know, as we sit here talking about all this, you miss Pete? Hell no.

[A]

Why?

[C]

Because he. He kept.

[B]

We had. We had a lot of problems under him, but not that it's even all his fault or Sean Duffy's fault. Like, either way, I'm envious of the life of someone like a Nicky Smokes. He doesn't know any of this shit's going on.

[C]

Rico Bosco doesn't know who Bibi Netanyahu is.

[A]

Stop.

[C]

He asked us.

[B]

Zero chance.

[C]

I posted a clip about it today. He said, who's that? Benjamin Netanyahu. He. He didn't know how to say his name. He didn't know who was. He thought it was the Hasidic Jewish rapper from like 20 years ago.

[A]

Was. He was doing it.

[B]

Oh, the guy we talked about on this show? Yeah. Modest Yahoo. Because I remember hearing it, I was like, that sounds like Netanyahu's name.

[A]

That's got to be a bit though, right?

[B]

I don't think so.

[C]

He said, I don't do politics.

[A]

But, like, it's not even.

[C]

Do you think Nicki Smokes knows who's Benjamin Netanyahu is?

[B]

Oh, I think Smokes does.

[C]

Probably because they. I think milk boys have him on. Very true. Good one, Mackenzie.

[B]

I think Smokes is actually like, peripherally aware of some things that Rico isn't.

[C]

I'd agree with that. Yeah, I guess.

[A]

Yeah. But it's like Smokes doesn't watch as much ball.

[C]

His. His brain isn't taken up by ball like Rico's is.

[A]

Yeah, but like Benjamin Netanyahu, big guy right now. But also he's largely been in power. I think he had a little, maybe like a four or eight year gap where he wasn't the prime Minister of Israel, but he's had like two different stints. He's been around since I was a kid. Like, he's been around since the 90s. Did you guys see that story where he had the Lewinsky tapes before they were public because he tapped the White House phones when Clinton was in office and he blackmailed Clinton. Let me pull this up also.

[C]

Speaking of, have we seen him? Is he alive? Do we know?

[A]

Yeah, he did a video with Mike Huckabee, of course.

[B]

Oh, but people think that might not be real.

[A]

Oh, is that right? See, this is. I also.

[B]

Well, that one looked real. But then he did a press conference, or not even a press conference like a recorded video after. In his. His suit jacket sleeve moved weird. Like it was AI.

[A]

This is from Drop Site News. Did Benjamin Netanyahu blackmail Bill Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky sex tapes? As a scandal that has been lost to contemporary memory, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was alleged to have blackmailed then President Bill Clinton by revealing to him that Israel had collected tapes of phone sex calls between the 42nd president and White house intern Monica lewinsky. Clinton met with netanyahu in the oval office in February 1997. Subsequently, according to testimony, Lewinsky gave her a special house counsel. Clinton's secretary, Betty curry, reached out to lewinsky to invite her to an oval office meeting, telling her clinton had something important to tell her. So, like that's the spec. Like I'd have to read this entire article, I guess, which I don't want to do, but that's, that's what they're saying. In april, netanyahu and Clinton meant again for a private visit. On a Saturday, May 1997, Clinton had invited curry and lewinsky to the white house. During that visit, he broke up with her, Lewinsky testified. Damn.

[B]

What could have been. Yeah, I mean, do you know who John Kiriakou is?

[A]

Oh, he's the tick tock CIA.

[B]

He's our white whale to get on this show. And I, I, I need it. I'll pay him personally. I don't care. I, I need him on this show.

[A]

He's, he's like the most accidentally hilarious guy.

[B]

Yeah, he's the man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He says that we give Israel like 95% of our intelligence, which we don't do for anyone else. And he said they have spies living in the United States to get the other 5%.

[A]

They just got it all.

[B]

Yeah. He's like, they, they're not, they want everything.

[A]

I don't know what we're doing with that.

[B]

I mean we got a lot going on.

[A]

We got a lot going on.

[B]

Chapel roan.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She was mean to the 11 year old Georgie kid. Yeah, that's what I got. I don't know, man.

[C]

I've learned recently I just don't have to have a take on everything. The chapel roan thing doesn't concern me. Not going to make my day one way or another. Is chapel roan was, was rude, slightly rude to Jude Law's 11 year old daughter. I'm just going to keep.

[B]

Wait, wait, wait. Jude law.

[C]

Jude law's kid or.

[B]

No, sorry, it was jorginho.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

What did I think it was Jude law. Oh, just kidding then. But like, I don't know.

[B]

Shout out the holiday though.

[C]

Shout out, but like that kind of stuff. I've, I've learned. I can't, I can't care about all of it. I don't care if chapel roan. I like her music. I can't.

[A]

Yeah, she's got hits.

[C]

Yeah, like that again. If she was doing if she was hitting children, maybe that's a problem. Problem this. I, I've got a TSA line to think about in two and a half weeks. Like, I actually can't be bothered with this. Right.

[B]

Right now.

[A]

Of the things that celebrities have been accused of doing children lately, what's pretty far down the list is. Okay, yeah, I don't need this one to dominate the headlines. Let's go back to the other issue.

[C]

Speaking of, I think you guys might have talked about this while I was gone last week. Duggar.

[B]

No, we did. It happened like Thursday or Friday.

[A]

What was this?

[B]

Oh, you don't know about the dug.

[C]

A new Duggar predator has, has entered the portal.

[B]

Oh, and his wife.

[C]

Well, so that I. So that I. That's different. But she's arrested too. But not for the same things. Well, not for all of the same things that he got arrested.

[B]

I think it was like endangerment to children.

[C]

Right. Okay. So I, I, this has been what's up. Been on my brain all weekend. My whole tick tock is just the Duggar thing. So Joseph Duggar got arrested for. So he got arrested for a charge in Florida. They live in Arkansas. For something that happened, I believe in 2020 or 2021, five or six years ago. Of. I want to get the charge right. Touching a minor inappropriately. I just want to make sure I get the absolute charge right.

[A]

It says Duggar was. The charges come a day after her husband, Joseph Duggar was charged with molestation.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Lewd and lascivious behavior involving unlawful sexual activity with a minor.

[C]

Yes. So it was said that in, I believe it was somewhere in Florida, some beach in Florida. Panama City. Panama Beach. In 2020, this happened. He molested the girl while on vacation with her family. And she was 9 years old at the time, I believe. And so that was one charge that he is gonna get extradited to Florida for.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Now because of that and because it was with a minor, they have to, I guess, under the law, I think in Arkansas, they have to search your house if you have a minor living in the house and he has four children to make sure that obviously this is not happening within the home as well. So then him and his wife also got charged with four counts of false imprisonment of a child. And what was the other charge? Child endangerment. Now, him and his wife both got charged for that because in the iblp, which is the cult that they are a part of, which we've had an episode on this before. Are you familiar with the Duggars at All chief.

[A]

I. It's like one of those things where I know they had a show, but I never watched it. And I like I'm reading this article as we're talking and he got. He was alleged to have molested four of his sisters. It was 19 kids and counting.

[C]

Well, that's Josh. That's the brother molested for the sisters. This is the other one. I don't.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And I think, I think this is a different guy. This is the second.

[B]

Yeah, this is a second brother.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

So one's a, one's a black sheep. Two, we're sensing a pattern. So the false imprisonment and child endangerment in the iblp, which is the religious cult that they are a part of and high up in, they have these crazy, crazy, crazy rules for disciplinary actions against your children. Some of them teeter on the line of child abuse. And one of them is putting locks on the outside of your children's bedroom doors and locking them in their bedroom at night. But it got. You get charged because obviously fire code. And if your child needs something, obviously. So they both got charged for that because obviously both of them are adults in the home. So she's obviously, she's not getting charged for the sexual misconduct with. With the child. She's getting charged for the false imprisonment charges. And it is said it is because of the locks on the outside of the door, which is crazy. But I have no sympathy for the man that you. Horrible, horrible, horrible, evil stuff.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The woman is also from the same religious cult. She grew up like this in this world where these types of things, the locks on outside of the door. Also the Duggar parents, Jim Bob and Michelle have been on air talking about these practices to keep the boys and the girls away from each other at night because they don't want them intermingling alone because also their son Josh, the first one, snuck into his sister's rooms at night and touched them. So you got to put locks on the outside of the door for your son that molests his sisters. You grow up like that. And they would say, we don't have the girl sit on boys laps. We don't have the girls and the boys play together by themselves. All of this weird, weird, weird that you have to think that much about boys and girls.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Being inappropriate with each other at a young age. So how, how it's so wrong. You should not do that to your children. This, this woman grew up in a world where this is the norm. What you do, this is how you train your children. This is Bill Gothard who's the head of the iblp, this is how he says to discipline your child. You grew up in this cult. Who are you to disobey who you think is this, like, prophet? So it's a crazy, crazy story, but this is the second son in the Duggar family out of the 19 that has now been arrested for inappropriate relations with minors. Which is so crazy and so sad and unfortunately, it makes me think, like,

[A]

it was probably going on.

[C]

Well, it's probably going on. And also if they're on. It was. It was on family vacation.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It was with another family member as well. Also, this feels like. If it's two, where is this, like, pattern stemming from?

[A]

That's what I mean. Maybe it started with the parents. Is that what you're trying to specify?

[C]

I'm not even trying to. Like, I think they've done. They. They have a lot to answer for as well. Just in life, it is. What's going on?

[B]

Well, there was a book excerpt from one of their cousins.

[C]

Oh, Amy, who.

[B]

Who would be on the show. And she was like the cool, hip cousin that was like, secular. Yeah. Like, she would be like, we're gonna go to the movies. And like. Yeah. And so. And I guess she wrote a book and said that she. She wasn't allowed to be anywhere near the grandfather alone.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That. That her grandma was like. Yeah, you're not.

[C]

Yeah. You can't wear a bathing suit in front of your grandpa. You can't sit on his lap.

[A]

What the fuck?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So it. It feels like it's the sick, sick pattern that's interwoven within this. I don't know if it's within the whole cult or this familial tree. It's disgusting. But I wanted to see if you guys had touched on that because that's been hitting my timeline a lot.

[B]

No, it was after we recorded.

[A]

Have you guys seen that other. I think it was a Hulu documentary.

[C]

Shiny Happy People.

[A]

It was like another weird Utah flds child abuse cult.

[C]

Flds. Maybe with Warren Jeffs.

[A]

But it was the same thing. This woman started. Basically she was abused. And then there was this moment who. I think that they had like four kids or something like that. And they had like a big YouTube channel.

[C]

Eight passengers. Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Ruby.

[C]

Frankie. Yeah, yeah. She's Mormon. We've done an episode. Oh, yeah, we know what. Yeah, we know her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They were just beating the hell out of there.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But then, like, to the point, like, they had like the self help kind of culture.

[C]

Well then. Yeah. The therapist Moved in.

[A]

The therapist moved in. And then they started being abusing the kids. Locking the kids. Yes, that too.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

To the point that, like, the husband had to move. He was forced to move out of the house and had no idea what was happening to his kids because he hadn't seen them in a year because the therapy therapist had, like, stolen the mom's brain.

[C]

And now they're in jail together.

[A]

And now they're in jail.

[C]

Yes. Oh, yeah. So they're Mormon.

[A]

Devil in the Family. The Fall of Ruby.

[C]

She's nutty and insane. I. I had watched her YouTube videos before. I mean, I watched 19 kids accounting growing up, like crazy.

[A]

Yeah, that was a huge show.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah, they were. And that was another thing. They were making money hand over fist. And I think the girls, some of the girls said when they got married, yeah, and they were like, we'll still be on the show, but like, we're adults. Like, if you want us on the show, like, you have to give us something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the dad was like, no.

[C]

And the dad, chief, listen to this. Jim Bob Duggar, on the morning of all of the kids weddings, would come to them and present them a contract and would basically signing this contract, and it's the morning of your wedding, would basically funnel all of the kids earnings from the show back to him. It was basically them signing away their guaranteed money that they made from doing the show. So all of these girls are the girls in the family. I mean, the boys are young too, but the girls in the family are 19, 20 years old, getting married, have never been to a normal school, don't have a college education, don't have a

[A]

job, and then not equipped to be signing.

[C]

Then boom, you're taking their one lump sum of money that they have earned from growing up in front of a television camera. And they don't really have the full necessary processing tools to understand what's going on also on the morning of their wedding. So then they're like, well, now I'm shit out of luck and I have no money and I'm 19 and I don't know how to read above a seventh grade level. And they've had to all, like, figure it out.

[A]

All right, what's going well? Is anything going well? Think of something that's going well.

[B]

Jacoby Gillespie basketball.

[C]

Tennessee basketball. That Gillespie kid couldn't stop. Was he the one that scored all those points against Miami?

[B]

Yeah, he. He destroyed.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Other than that, kind of.

[C]

Really.

[B]

Yeah. I don't have an opening day this week, which I know you're not happy about.

[A]

But I mean I'm glad it's back but I just wish it was in like second week of April.

[B]

You saw that Spencer Strider got hurt today?

[A]

No.

[B]

Just real quick for anyone that cares. Since the start of spring training, Hasong Kim, who the Braves signed this offseason, slipped on a patch of ice in Korea and tore a ligament in his finger. Jerks and profile was suspended the entire season for doing PEDs. Twice. They've had four starting pitchers hurt for one towards ACL trying to cover first base out the whole year. Schwellenbach and Waldrop, who are supposed to be really good are both out indefinitely. And then today Spencer Strider has an oblique strain and he will start the year on the IO.

[A]

So I don't have to worry about the Braves for a wild card run.

[B]

They are like, they're like 19 and 6 in spring training which means nothing. But the offense has been good. They just, we don't, we have no idea who's going to pitch. So that's a problem. Yeah Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all E commerce in the United States. Get started with your own design studio. With hundreds of ready to use templates, Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store that matches your brand style. Best yet, Shopify is your commerce expert. With world class expertise in everything from managing inventory to international shipping to processing returns and beyond, Shopify is always around to share advice with our award winning 24. 7 customer support. Tackle all those important tasks in one place from inventory to payments to analytics and more. No need to save multiple websites or try to figure out what platform is hosting the tool that you need to Everything is all in one place, making your life easier and your business operations smoother. Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at shopify.comdose go to shopify.com do s e that shopify.com/dose going well. I hear people have you seen this project Hail Mary movie? I see people talk about that. I don't know what it's about. I just keep seeing people talk about it.

[C]

Ryan Gosling is a, I believe a middle school science teacher and they basically, I don't, I don't know, it's a book that they adapted. But he's a, yeah, middle school science teacher and basically NASA sends him up into space to like save the world.

[B]

I'm on the fence about seeing it.

[C]

I've seen.

[A]

I thought you were going to say you're on the fence about Saving the world.

[C]

We need someone.

[A]

Let it go.

[B]

I might decide to, but.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But, yeah, it's a Ryan Gosling space movie.

[A]

I feel like he hasn't been in anything in a while. My.

[C]

Wrong Barbie.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I didn't. I didn't end up seeing that.

[C]

I think it's a great movie.

[A]

I'm not. I. I don't have an opinion because I didn't see it.

[C]

The fall guy, that's. He was like a stunt guy in that. That was like, two years ago. I don't think he had anything come out last year. But, I mean, Barbie was probably like

[A]

his most recent thing. Yeah. Because that was the same time as Oppenheimer. Right?

[C]

Barbenheimer.

[A]

Oppenheimer. Yeah.

[C]

But, yeah, he. Unfortunately. Beautiful man. Too much. Too much cheek filler.

[A]

Oh, he's one of those.

[C]

Too much cheek filler.

[B]

Both of those movies. By the way. Don't think I'd ever watch again.

[A]

Which one?

[B]

Barbie, obviously, but Oppenheimer. Good movie. Don't know that I'd ever sit down and watch it again.

[A]

I watched it a second time because I think I've told somebody this story before, but I went to the Music Box Theater for that because they were showing it in, like, the. What is it? 38 millimeter film? 35, whatever. And it's right up the street from my house. So I'm like, I'll go there. It's a cool old theater. I'd been there for small productions before, and then it was three hours of just sitting on my balls and sweating my ass off in the middle of summer. So I'm like, I hate this movie. This movie stinks. And then I saw it on, like, Amazon prime one day when I was a little bit hungover on a Sunday morning. Mike, you know what? Pretty good film.

[B]

Yeah, it was good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I just don't. It's long. A lot of. I might watch it one more time in, like, 10 years.

[A]

I didn't need any of the storyline with Robert Downey Jr. I decided.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That whole thing, I'm like, I don't. I don't care about this guy. Just make the bomb.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Could have cut an hour out of that movie.

[B]

Could have used a big boom to. They went silent.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Spoiler alert.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe they could have, you know, show the Japan part, too.

[B]

No chance they were going to do that.

[A]

Give us three booms.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Anyway, is there any real video of that anywhere? Of those ones?

[B]

I don't know. I. There's pictures of like.

[A]

Yeah. The devastation looks.

[B]

No, but like, there's a picture like the mushroom cloud. Right.

[A]

But I thought that was a test site.

[B]

Oh maybe, maybe. So this picture is like from the sky, which makes me think it could have been from a plane.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Or I guess it would have to be from plane but from one of our planes.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. They're terrifying.

[B]

Yeah. Not what you want. No. I mean I had some other stuff but there any more scams?

[C]

I mean you. I'm endless.

[B]

Yeah. But just that are really sticking in my crawl right now.

[A]

See what the Internet says for scams. I think we covered the big ones.

[B]

Yeah. I have a couple more.

[A]

But I mean big trouble. Your student loans are a scam. Those are.

[B]

And do you know, pull this up. There's a chart, Google like cost of college chart when student loans are introduced. If you look at the cost of college at the exact point the government started paying for it, which is not that long ago. Went straight up.

[A]

Yeah. The introduction and expansion of student loans have correlated with the steep sustained rise in college tuition which increased by 93.2% from 0506 until 2026. And that is just because there's more money available and that's easier to get.

[B]

Yeah. I mean if you can just. If the government's going to let you take out unlimited money, then guess what? The schools are going to charge unlimited.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

There was. I'm looking for this. Yeah. Starting July 1, 2026, Federal Law School student loans will undergo a major restructuring. Graduate plus loans will be eliminated. Capping federal borrowing at $50,000 annually for JD students. You know what all the law school prices went to immediately?

[A]

Oh, you don't say.

[B]

$50,000.

[A]

This is like another one of those things where it's.

[B]

But they went. A lot of them went down is what I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah. Right.

[B]

Because that's what they know people can correct.

[C]

A scam I was thinking about.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It's a future scam that that fucker Sam Altman was talking about.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Universal Basic Income. This might be not lib of me. I'm not quite sure.

[B]

I'm fascinated to hear what this is.

[C]

Okay. So Sam Altman has talked about that his. His is going to take all the jobs and there will be no jobs and no one's gonna have a job because his computers are gonna do all of it. Correct. And he said that the government should introduce Universal Basic Income so these poor people who lose their livelihoods based on his stupid idea can live. Correct.

[A]

Yeah. Yes, I've heard that.

[C]

Okay. This may be anti live of me. Wouldn't that just. If universal basic income is introduced, wouldn't that just drive up the cost?

[B]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Exactly what we just described with college.

[C]

Of everything. Yeah, that's what made me. That's what made me think of it where it's like universal basic income. Wouldn't that just drive up the cost of everything? They will keep you poor no matter what.

[B]

Housing, yes.

[C]

Yeah, housing, same thing. Is that anti live of me?

[B]

No, I mean, it's just, it's common sense.

[C]

But I don't get the universal basic income thing that he is introducing as like, well, they'll just have to give everyone the money, baby. They'll just price you out still. There is no such thing as universal basic income because like, money is not a fixed thing.

[A]

Right. So you would, if you were to do that, you would probably also have to have price fixing.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Like you can on particular groceries or something, which would be the end of everything.

[C]

Well, Sam Altman's literally gonna kill us all. Like that's like the end of it. Like that's. He's the end for us.

[A]

But like, this is why. This is one of those things where she's like, let the bubble pop. Like you're. Oh, so. Oh, the AI bubble pop. So the thing that's going to. All the people who are making things to take everyone's job are going to lose their job. All right, how about you guys go first? You guys are out of a job. We don't have this AI. Who cares? The only other problem with that is then these countries like China, who are. Everything is just government funded, then they would in theory, like, win that race.

[C]

But what race are we racing there?

[B]

Nobody knows.

[A]

Nobody.

[C]

What's the race like?

[B]

It's like that GEICO commercial where the guy's like, I'll call you back. I have to get in the line. And he's like, what's everybody waiting in line for? And the girl goes, nobody knows. Just want to wait in the line.

[C]

But I, I think about that sometimes with him and him saying the universal basic income bullshit. Because I'm like, no, that's not like, that's not a real thing. Yeah, you can give. If you give the people who lose their jobs even 50,000, which they would never do, but let's just say they gave you $50,000. They're just gonna make everything.

[A]

It would drive the price up of everything.

[C]

Yeah. And then let's say I don't even want to put real people attached to it. Let's say worker A loses their job. And has to get universal basic income. Worker B does not lose their job and they make $85,000.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

It ends up hurting both of them because then worker B can't afford the stuff. Because worker A can't afford the stuff.

[B]

If you would like, you're. You're starting to catch on a little bit. We can go further into some other issues if you'd like to be enlightened on some other stuff.

[A]

Okay, no, no, no. But. But I think that.

[C]

But you know who gets rich? Sam Altman and frickin Elon Musk and all them.

[A]

Correct.

[C]

But that's big T. But I'm going to bring it back. It's not left versus right. It's us versus them.

[A]

Correct. No one, no one is on our side. No one is on the people side. And you can. I do really think that most of the things that the left and right argue about are just a distraction. That's all it is. Like, at the end of the day, who. I don't care about anything. I just want to be able to live more comfortably, brother. Yeah. These political divisions should be based upon class and once the people. But here's the. I also am worried that if, like, what we were talking about before, if we actually, if everyone kind of banded together, like, we could do. If there was like a social media where it's like, the people have had enough. We could do a run on the banks and like, the bank system would collapse. Like, they would just be like, you don't have, like, there is no money.

[B]

Every system in this country is just built on like, well, we hope that doesn't happen. Right. You know. Do you know what percentage of court cases in this country go to trial? No, it's like less than 10. And they. I saw a lawyer asked one time. They're like, what would happen if everybody decided that they wanted to have a trial? Is like, nobody knows. Like, we couldn't do it.

[A]

Like, violation of the Bill of Rights. You won't have a speedy trial. Promise you that.

[B]

Yeah. No, they're like, we, we couldn't do it. Banks, same thing. If everybody decided they want their money out of the bank, Best of luck doesn't exist. It's not there. Right.

[A]

So like the banking, it would collapse quickly. Quickly, yeah. Like in a day, if everybody was just like, give me my money. Collapse because there would be no more money.

[B]

100% welcome. Welcome to America.

[A]

It's all an illusion. I mean, I love the idea of it. I love that. Like, better.

[B]

It's still better than most Places. But.

[C]

And then you know what? Because of all of the bad, like, that's when I say I'm just going to go buy myself, like, a coffee or, like, buy myself a little treat. Because all these fuckers are gonna ruin my life anyway. Like, at least let me have, like, enjoy simple pleasures. Like, God, let me buy the flowers that are a little bit too expensive because you know what?

[A]

Like, because Bunny's fake anyways.

[C]

Money is fake anyways. But you know, it's real flowers.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

And just take it from this tab, put it over to this one. It's all. Nothing's real.

[C]

I know. We need to say something fun and nice, though, because this is.

[A]

We went down a dark path.

[B]

Find Jesus, go to church. That's all you can do.

[A]

I think there is some truth to that.

[C]

Go have fun with your friends.

[A]

Yeah, that's nice.

[C]

Go outside and be with friends and not online. I got a brick.

[A]

What's that?

[B]

Oh. Oh, you don't know about the brick? No, I got a brick. It is. How much do those cost?

[C]

60 bucks.

[B]

Okay, so it's a $60 piece of plastic that you tap. You can set it to be like. Disable Twitter. Yeah. Whatever you want on your phone, you tap your phone on it. And those won't work on your phone until you tap the brick again. So you can, like, tap it when you leave your house, and you won't be able to access whatever you told it until you get home or whenever.

[A]

Can you override it?

[C]

There's emergency unbricks, but there's only a certain number you get.

[A]

So, like, a big trade goes down. Emergency.

[C]

But my scrolling is so bad. I'm gonna try to brick.

[A]

Okay. How long have you had the brick?

[C]

It comes tomorrow. I don't have it yet.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I ordered it, though.

[B]

What are you gonna brick?

[C]

TikTok for sure. Okay, TikTok for sure. Probably Instagram, because I feel like if I don't have TikTok, I'll just go to my terrible Instagram reels algorithm. So that'll be gone. I don't go on Twitter on the weekends for my one, mental health. But two, Like, I usually. I usually just use Twitter for work anyway, so I'm not usually on Twitter after hours, honestly.

[A]

That's good.

[C]

Which helps my brain a lot. Honestly. TikTok and Instagram would probably be my biggest ones. I'll probably just brick Twitter for the hell of it, because I'm there. And start there and, like.

[A]

See, you can always post from your computer, too.

[C]

Yeah. And that's what I do anyways. Like, if I'm on Twitter, it's 95% of the time on my computer.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm gonna start with those. And like, see, like, what I do, I just. It's so bad. My screen time is so bad. And I do it for work. Like, I do this for work. I'm on social media all day for work. I need to

[A]

detach when you get those reports like that pushing over the.

[C]

Makes me sick to my stomach.

[A]

From Apple on Sunday. What's your number?

[C]

I don't want to say.

[A]

I'll say if you say it.

[C]

You say it first.

[A]

All right, so I'm down. I'm down off of my historic norms, but I'm sitting at about six hours a day.

[B]

Oh, I. I don't know what mine's at, but I guarantee it's way higher than that.

[C]

About eight.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Where do I find this? Settings.

[C]

Just search in your settings. Screen time.

[A]

Yeah, I get the push notification.

[C]

I get a push notification every Sunday morning, which all, like, smacks me in the ass. I'm like, God damn.

[A]

Because I, I. During football season, because I try not to use it on Sundays as much, but during football season that was impossible, obviously, that I was over nine hours a day.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And like, so I'm like, I gotta make some changes.

[C]

Yeah. Like I was.

[A]

This is why I got a sauna too. I got a sauna. I put it in my second bedroom and my phone can't go in there. It can connect to the Bluetooth. So I can listen to a show or, you know, a podcast, but it'll melt if it's in there. So I just. Usually just bring a book and I just sit in there and that's like, at least, you know, a 45 minute break.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Oh. I'm only at 5:40.

[A]

I'm only at 4.

[C]

13. That's shocking for today. Get back to today. Or is it on average? Daily? Average. Damn. Yeah. No, I'm. My brain is melted plastic at this point, probably.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Which is why I just want to try it and see.

[A]

I like this plan for you.

[C]

Please report back how I can detach. I'm. I'm actually nervous I'm gonna go into like a withdrawal, which is gonna be really, really scary and sad if I like, I'm genuinely, like, tweaking out over it. But I feel like if I do it at least like at night before I go to bed in order to not scroll before bed as much.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

And then like a sun, like maybe a Sunday.

[A]

I Think that's good.

[C]

While I clean my house, you know, spend time with loved ones, get ready for the next week ahead. I just fear it's not going to get better if I don't do something about it in a concrete way.

[A]

I like it.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Please report back.

[C]

I just.

[A]

In person. I wanted to look at your phone to send it.

[C]

No, yeah, I'll see you. But that's my. That's my. My positive attribute or my positive outlook is I can. I can knock this screen time down.

[A]

Like, I wonder if this will be like, a person getting off of drugs,

[C]

where it's like, I'm nervous. It's going to be.

[A]

Well, where it's really hard at first. First. And then you're just like, you, like, turn.

[C]

You know, Like, a lot of people that I follow, funnily enough, I see a lot of TikTok influencers that I follow do this, and they are like, I'm not. I brick the whole weekend. That might be a later down the line thing for me, but they are like, my brain feels less foggy. I wake up better in the morning. Oh, I'm sure I have, like, actual physical cognitive differences that I can feel. And even if that's placebo, which I don't think it is, I think if you're just not on your phone as much, like, you're gonna feel better. I'll take the placebo. I don't care. Yeah, whatever works, right? And, like, nicer weather's coming.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Let me. Let me get bricked and then go outside, get bricked up and then be.

[B]

It's actually crazy. I bet that company is raking it up.

[C]

Yeah. It's literally just plastic. And then it's like. I think it basically scans it. Like a QR code, I think is how it works. But I'll let you know. But Yeah, I paid 60 bucks for it. But like the screen time thing on Apple, you would just press ignore. Like there's no barrier there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So that's where I'm at. That's my. My one positive thing.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I'm gonna get bricked.

[A]

I like it.

[C]

Thanks.

[A]

I'm not gonna do it.

[C]

No, No, I would never. And look, who's to say I'm gonna stick with it? I hope I do.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But if I put it on my fridge and I see it every day,

[A]

I think that helps, too.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I'd like to. I don't know. I wish there was a way to.

[C]

Because I see all this shit all the time. Makes me sad.

[A]

I know. And it's like, I. You know, I listen to Rogan on occasion, and, like, he just doesn't do social media. He's got the biggest podcast in the world. Never has to, like, do anything to promote it. He's just like, I envy the people who have social media where they just have someone else managing their shit and they just don't have to worry about even beyond being on for promotion themselves.

[C]

Say people just rip Joe Rogan's clips, like, and post them themselves.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And he's got, like, his, you know, two or three guys in his team that will post things, and he just doesn't have to. Sounds nice.

[C]

Yeah. And he makes millions of dollars.

[A]

Hundreds of millions, really. His Spotify deal was $200 million, and then he got a second one, so.

[C]

But we could also have desk jobs and be super bored every day, so

[A]

that too, I'd rather do this. And I've had those jobs.

[C]

Right.

[A]

They weren't for me. So I do love this job, but there are elements where it's like, I like sitting and chatting with you guys, but I don't necessarily need to be.

[B]

Well, hope so, because may need you Thursday. So Thursday record on Wednesday.

[A]

Yeah, should be fine.

[B]

What do you want to do the show on?

[C]

We already did.

[B]

I mean, I feel like we got it. We got to find a scam, some. Just something we hate.

[A]

I got plenty of things that I.

[B]

All right, we'll talk about it. We'll see if we can get maybe one more person in here on Wednesday. I guess that. That'll do it for today. Again. I had. I had some things on this list, like a regular show, but then we kind of just pivoted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm glad we did. We talk some things out.

[A]

We didn't get anywhere, but it felt good to get off your chest. We're not solving any problems.

[B]

I mean, what. You know, when are we going to get. How could we, you know?

[A]

Well, we converted one person today.

[B]

She's no longer a list.

[C]

Okay,

[A]

look, look, just come in the middle. Come over here in the middle.

[C]

I can't vote middle.

[A]

I think I might just not vote anymore.

[C]

I love thinking about that. We count that Republican. Yeah. We can't. We count.

[A]

I would vote. If not, how long you want. What?

[C]

No, I love voting. It's like, I love fulfilling a civic duty like that. That's awesome.

[A]

But. But if I. Because I voted for Trump last time, I'm deeply disappointed in his administration.

[C]

Correct.

[A]

So. And it just feels like. What's that?

[C]

Sorry. Sorry.

[A]

But it's just like, I just feel like there's nobody to vote forever. And it's not like I would go back and change it because I don't, like, I don't think it even matters.

[B]

Yeah, that's why, like, I don't. I don't like what Trump is doing right now. But you can't say that because then, like, they're like, see, told you. It's like, well, I find your alternative unfathomable. So.

[A]

Right. You were running a guy that had dementia last time. Somehow he won, and then they were saying, no, he's got too much dementia this time, so we'll have someone else who, like, that's still not like a viable alternative. So it just. And the other thing, I feel like all the things that Trump ran on that I liked, he has done the opposite. It's done, like, the exact opposite. I'm like, I didn't. I voted for you, but not for this. And so it's just like, you can't trust anyone.

[B]

Is that what you were going to say when you said you can't say it?

[A]

No. There is one person that I like, but I doubt he runs and I doubt he gets any actual.

[B]

Doubt he runs. So it's not like a politician.

[A]

Oh, he's politician.

[B]

He is a politician.

[C]

And he's a Republican.

[A]

He's a Republican.

[C]

Is he in office now?

[A]

He is in office now. Trump hates his guts.

[C]

Thomas Massie.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I could see him running.

[A]

I don't think he'll run.

[C]

Why not?

[A]

I don't know. I just have. And I also. He would have no shot in a Republican primary, so he'd have to run as an independent, which they have scammed that, so you can't even be an independent really anymore. Like, there will. I don't think there will ever be a true third party candidate, like, independent candidate.

[C]

Him going against Trump with the Epstein files was probably.

[A]

Yeah, I like him. And, you know, it's like, could we get something where it's like him and Rokhanna just run together? It's like, look, we got. We don't agree on much, but this thing is so.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. I can't think of someone. I'm like, yeah, I'm excited for them to run.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

Yeah. I like that. James Talarico, but I don't think he's going to president right away.

[A]

The Texas guy? Yeah. I don't know enough about him.

[C]

I like his. Again, I don't live in Texas, so I don't know. But I like how he has to Say speaks and.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Is pretty normal.

[A]

You're not a massy guy.

[B]

Oh, I don't. The. The little I know about him, I don't. I don't know enough to make a judgment, and I'm not a Talarico guy, I'll tell you that.

[C]

Yeah, see, they still got me. I'm still a lib.

[A]

Yeah, I would. But I would say Massey's a Libertarian. You can just get on that. You can just be a libertarian with Massey.

[B]

We got a long way to go before I can. Who cares, dude?

[A]

That's what I. That's what I mean. That's why I'm saying I might not ever vote again, because it just doesn't matter.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what? I do think we got somewhere today. I think we arrived at a. At a good conclusion and a good place to live your life. Well, maybe not a healthy understanding.

[A]

Yeah. I think. I think I've gotten to the point where I just have to focus on trying to do the right things myself on, like, a very small, like, treat my fiance well, treat my family well.

[B]

Congratulations. Thank you.

[A]

We talked about that before, didn't we?

[B]

Not on the show.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

We got the exclusive info before it happened.

[A]

Oh, that's right. That's right. So, yeah, just, like, try to do, like, the things that are in my immediate control. I want to try to do them as to the best of my ability.

[C]

Love that.

[A]

Not even necessarily that sometimes you got to give people the what for, you know, like, so, you know, like, that's. I don't. Sometimes you got to be the bad guy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But. But just try to control what I can control, and then everything else is just beyond me, so I'm not going to worry about that as much.

[B]

All right, well, that's it. Great show, chief. Thank you. I will see you back this week, I believe.

[A]

So I might have a busy Wednesday with a couple of dog walk things, but, yes, I'd love to be on.

[B]

On.

[A]

On the next episode of.

[B]

All right, thank you. We will see you guys next time. Goodbye.

[A]

Goodbye.