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Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter
How America Got Bigger: The Story of U.S. Expansion | Jan 22, 2026
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Arian Foster
Hey macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.
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Big T
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Arian Foster
Back to back weekends.
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Big T
The new era is here. It's time. Every fight.
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Arian Foster
Bam.
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Big T
One subscription.
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Arian Foster
Oh my goodness.
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Big T
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Arian Foster
Plus hey, this is PFT from part of my Take a terrible call by the refs. A back breaking interception in the red zone. Brutal clock management. At the end of a half when the season has you ready to snap, don't break. Snap into a Slim Jim instead. Slim Jim is not just a meat stick, it's the og. Slim Jim is the bold spicy snack that snaps back. No fumbles, no bad calls. Just bold flavor that can never be sidelined. So if your team has you feeling like you're ready to snap, call a timeout and snap into a Slim Jim.
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Rico Bosco
What do you. What do you what can we barter or a girl? I don't care. Like whatever.
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Arian Foster
You're trying to traffic a A boyfriend tour?
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Big T
Is that what you're saying?
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Mackenzie
No.
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Rico Bosco
You always take it to the dark place. Pft. I don't know.
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Arian Foster
You said you need a man.
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Big Cat
Rico. I don't know.
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Arian Foster
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Big T
Hey, I wasn't gonna say nothing. I'm glad you brought.
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Arian Foster
That's a. That's a lie.
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Big Cat
That's a. Yeah, that's not true at all. That's not true.
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Big T
Say nothing.
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Arian Foster
Aaron broke 80. Congrats, Aaron.
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Big T
Aryan broke 80. Aryan broke that. I broke that. I snapped it in half. I wasn't gonna say nothing. You.
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Big Cat
How. How long? He. He sent us a little picture with his scorecard yesterday.
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Big T
I wasn't gonna say nothing.
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Arian Foster
Wait, so, Ariel, on that scorecard, you got nothing? It's also an extra flex because you got Clyde Drexler's signature on that scorecard.
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Big T
Drexler signed it. My boy Reggie, who's a scratch cd, you know, I hate to do it to him. You know what I'm saying? I clipped him. You know, I clipped the OG you know, my other buddy, who's a three, clipped him on that, too. It was a windy, cold day. I played lights out. Lights out.
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Arian Foster
Congrats.
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Big T
Lights out. I'm. I'm psyched.
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Arian Foster
You feel like you're invincible now.
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Big T
I bet it feels like. It feels vindicated because I felt like I've been in the 80s for a while, and it just felt like my time was coming. But it was just like I had to do something special, you know? And I did. Started the day with a bird. I was 200 through, like, six. Yeah, I got. I got a birdie like, two holes later. So I was like, 200 through six, and then I got a triple. I mean, I was like, oh, here we go again. But I didn't let it. I didn't shake me. Bounce back with a par.
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Arian Foster
Things fall apart a little bit on the back nine, huh? Things fell apart a little bit on the back nine. I saw the scorecard. Not really.
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Big T
And that's the thing, though. They didn't really fall apart. It was more so like I was managing my game. Like. Like, you can't let. You can't get compounded mistakes like. So I got a triple, bounced back with a par, got a bogey, bounced back with another par, finished the front half, front nine with a 38, right. I was like, okay, we on track, this is what we want. And then, you know what I'm saying, your game goes up, game goes down. And it was really tough conditions. It was windy, it was cold, the ball wasn't traveling. Like my last bird, I finished birdie, par, par, and my last bird, I was 150 out. It was a par five, you know what I'm saying? And it was, it was a 260 carry to go over a ravine into the wind. So like we had to get after it, right? So you had to hit like a 280, 90 yard, 280, 85 yard carry to get past this ravine or else it had been dead. And so I barely made it over that B. And then. But my second shot, my third shot, it, I mean, it's 150 out after my second shot and it's like I had to hit a six iron, which is like my 180 club, 185 into a 150 and I stuck it and then I got a birdie. But it was like, that's the kind of conditions it was in. And I played well, man, I play well. I'm happy as it's, you know, I'm looking to break par now. You know, about you guys.
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Arian Foster
Let's go.
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Big T
I'm looking to break par now. That's what we look at.
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Arian Foster
Let's get to scratch.
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Big T
I have a goal by end of scratch by the end of the year. That's my goal.
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Arian Foster
Damn, that would be very impressive if you got there.
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Big T
The good thing is I'm retired and I spent a lot of time golfing that, hence the progress so fast, right? So like right now my handicaps is 7.4.
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Arian Foster
That's the thing. That's the thing about any professional athlete, or for the most part most professional athletes, is they can pick something up and if they dedicate themselves to it. Oh yeah, you have really good hand eye coordination. You have good body control. If you practice at it, you will be better than all the other guys that just go out there and, and try to squeeze every last bit of talent out of themselves just to maybe, maybe break 90 occasionally. Like you've got, you're, you're different.
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Big T
Yeah, but there's a reason why I'm different. While you was. You like, think of all the occupations you've had all your whole life. Right. You was training dogs. I think you were a scammer at one point.
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Arian Foster
Like, you have never. Never a scammer. Never. Never a scammer. I was a used car salesman, which you could debate whether that qualifies.
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Big T
But you had a whole bunch of different occupations where every day you woke up and you did whatever you had to do to pay the bills. Right.
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Arian Foster
Yep.
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Big T
Since I was a child, I woke up and I worked on my body coordination. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's. Yeah. I'm an athlete. And I was. I was physically gifted. But also I got 30 years. Right. Of training, of understanding my body, understanding my body weight, the movement, how it moves, what I wanted to do. So if you tell me something, it's very easy for me to get, whether it's, you know, it takes a little time. Golf is not an easy game. It's a very tough sport. But I say. I had to say, I think a lot of people could do it. Oh, buddy. Ben Hogan. Ben Hogan wrote a book, five, I think five Simple Truths. Five. Something I read a long time. My grandma gave it to my first start golfing. And he was convinced that the average Golfer could break 80 and shoot in the 70s if you just learn these few things. And. And I thought he was crazy. Cause I was like, I'm an athlete and I can't get this shit. But after kind of understanding the swing for a long periods of time. And I think a bigger part is a lot of people don't teach the swing correctly. And that's a whole nother conversation. But. So I think he was correct. I think a lot more people can break play in the 80s and 70s with a few simple, fundamental techniques if they learn it and practice it for a little bit. I believe that.
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Big Cat
I think most people could. If you, like, quit your job and just played golf every single day.
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Big T
You know what? I'm gonna let you shit in my Wheaties. Big time.
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Big Cat
I'm not. I'm saying if, like. No, I'm literally not. I'm saying you play golf every day. If someone just played golf every single day, like, I think you would for sure get there.
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Big T
We're gonna sidestep the negativity.
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Big Cat
It's not negative.
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Big T
We're gonna bask in it.
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Big Cat
There is no negative.
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Arian Foster
That's the difference between me and you, Aaron.
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Mackenzie
I will.
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Arian Foster
I will never retire from the NFL. I'll never quit just so I can play golf more. Well, if I.
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Big T
If I. If I could sit and talk into a microphone and then tell my Mama, I'm on Netflix because of that. I would do that. I would never. I would never quit that job.
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Arian Foster
Yeah, no, it's. I. I didn't mean that. Like, you just have the ability to be good at any sport. I was saying along those same lines. Yeah. You obviously put in a lot of work to get to where you're at physically, but once you put in all that work to become a professional athlete, you've got such a good base of athleticism that translates to everything else that. Yeah, I want to say I'm not surprised that you did it. I'm not. Because I know that you play a lot and that you care about it, and it's a big deal. So I'm happy for you.
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Big T
Yeah. I'm working on a video. Or maybe I'll put it on the Macrodosian YouTube, but I'm working on a video. How Golf Saved My Life. And nothing at all dreary. But like, the. The. The reinvention of Self after Retirement. I've talked about a little bit on this podcast. Is a very hard thing for athletes to do because you feel like a part of you died. And helps so many of my former colleagues that I see find a passion that really satiates a lot of the things that we as athletes fed off of growing up for three decades plus.
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Big Cat
Like, we.
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Big T
We needed something. And this. This helps so much. And I'm gonna go into deep, deeper dive. But it's a really dope. Because I'm finding out so many more people are going through the same thing, and it's really dope.
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Arian Foster
It's very cool. I'm happy for you.
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Big T
Yeah. But anyway, Mr. 79. You can call me that if you want to. I wouldn't.
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Arian Foster
You know, you don't have to, but Mr. 79.
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Big T
This is 79.
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Arian Foster
But then that. That nickname's gonna change when. Once you shoot 78, then it's Mr. 78.
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Big T
No, it's gonna be Mr. 79. I'm gonna get this laminated, get a tattoo. I might.
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Arian Foster
Yeah.
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Big T
Yeah. Because, you know, I clipped the hall.
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Arian Foster
Of Famer.
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Big T
And I might be Mr. Scratch when I do that, but until then, it's Mr. 79.
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Big Cat
Will do.
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Big T
It's fine.
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Arian Foster
Was it Iron Sharpens Iron Is Clyde good? And. And he was, like, pressing you.
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Big T
So.
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Arian Foster
So.
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Big T
So the reason why I attribute myself to getting better, it's not just my athleticism and shit like that. It's because I play with. I play with Clyde Drexler and his other other cat named Reggie Barclay. Played basketball overseas For a while. And when I started playing with them dudes, they play by PGA rules, right? So that's why, like, I'm confident in saying, like, my handicap is my handicap. And, like, I shoot. Whatever I shoot, I shoot. Because, like, so yesterday, for instance, right, we're on 16. Clyde, he hit a drive out of bounds, and we thought it was a red stake, right? And so we drove up there, figured out it wasn't a red stake. It was obvious. OB means you have to go back and re tee. And so we're already at our ball, and he. We see him driving back to go re tee to he. Now he's hitting number three. Like, that's the golf we play. We play by the rules. Like, we play for real. And so because of that, it allowed me to understand the game on a deeper level. Now I got to think about course management, because I can't. If I go out of bounds there, depending on what stake it is, I used to just, fuck it. I'll drop whatever, and I'm hitting whatever. Right, Right. Because it was just casual golf. But, like, I started playing, like, when you start playing for real, you start challenging yourself. You start to really get better. And when you're around guys, yeah, CD's really good. Like, he'll shoot in the, you know, 80s and 70s sometime. Like, Reggie's in scratch, so he's always in the 70s. And so, like, playing with guys like that, if you see how they play, you see how they manage the course, you see how. And it just makes you, like, if you care and you competitive, like, you going to get better. Like, that's. That's. That's my nature. Like, I don't ever. Like, I'm, like, I was never discouraged if I lost in golf. I was always, like, motivated. Like, okay, I just got to say, I see what I got to do. I see what I got. You learned something like that. I still feel like that if I play with pros, I'm not. You're not going to discourage me. That's going to be amazing. I can learn from you so much. I would love that.
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Arian Foster
I just ordered Ben Hogan's five lessons, the Modern Fundamentals of Golf.
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Big T
It's a great book, though. It's a great. Like, the visuals at that time, the visuals that they put in the book, like, the illustrations versus his. His description, it's amazing. And then you go. And then you go online and type in Ben Hogan swing. And you see it. It's. It's beautiful. You can see why he was a killer. Like, it's beautiful.
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Arian Foster
Yeah, I, I feel like, you know, there's, there's a lot of good stuff about the Internet in that you can look up how to do anything. And there's a million different golf channels, a million different people teaching you different aspects of the swing. But at some point I think it sometimes becomes too much. Yes. Where you can, you have access to all this different stuff all at once. And it's hard to actually focus on one thing that you're trying to learn. Maybe reading a paperback book, maybe that'll, that'll make it sink in for me.
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Big T
There's a few, there's a few channels I trust. And the reason why I trust them is because they're not, they don't, they don't do too much. It's, it's what the dude calls, he calls. This is science based. Right. And what he means by that is like there's certain angles that you could measure. So like, so every pro, like when you, when you, when you take your backswing back, right, there's an angle of the shoulders that go from the top of the shoulder to the, towards the ball. And then when you finish on your backswing, that, that's an angle. When you, when you're in that slot, you talk about the slot, there's angles and you can measure those in degrees and stuff like that. So that's what he does. And he does it to a very high level. And he, he, he says, okay, everybody has a certain swing, but there are certain things that are very consistent in great ball strikers, swings. He said if you get around that, what they look like when you do this, he said you're going to be able to hit the ball on a more consistent basis. So like that data driven stuff that helps when you start doing all these, pulling out all these gadgets and gizmos and that, that's when it can get a little, Some of them are helpful, some of them can, some of it can get a little wild though. Yeah, it can get a little while.
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Arian Foster
Similar to golf. I feel like we're, we're entering the golden age of guitar players too. For all the information that you can get online, like it used to be, you had to go, you had to book lessons, you had to travel, get your, if you're growing up, get your parents to drop you off at a guitar teacher once a week or whatever, but just with everything that you have on YouTube online, you can, you can get excellent at guitar just in your living room if you put enough time into it.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Arian Foster
But at the same Point. Are we going to lose some of the soul like Jimi Hendrix sounded like Jimi Hendrix because he didn't. He didn't grow up with all the rules. He could break them, not even know he's breaking them.
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Big T
There is something to be said about that. Yeah, well, that swing, your swing. And that goes with the guitar, too.
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Arian Foster
Yeah.
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Big T
Like there. There's a way to hold the G chord, but if you do it comfortably and you can transition seamlessly to the next chord, who gives a. Yeah, well, congrats, Aaron. You know what? Thank you, man. It feels good.
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Arian Foster
Now do it in competition.
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Big T
Let's see. That's the beautiful thing about how we play. We play for money every time. So if you look at the scorecard, I'll send it to you group. But if you look at the scorecard, there's like skin games. We have a team game and a skin game, and then we have. I think I talked about the tax man on this podcast. So we play the tax man. So you have to break a certain. So it's not competition per se, but we play by competition rules and we always play for money. So it's like low key. It is, yeah.
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Arian Foster
Very cool.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Arian Foster
All right, let's get into macrodosing. Today we're going to be talking a little bit about U. S. Expansion throughout history. There's a lot of talk about expansion. You got our eyes on a few different. Few different places right now that we might like to expand, acquire.
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Big T
It's a nice euphemism you've thrown in there as well. What? Expansion?
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Arian Foster
Expansion. Colonialism.
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Big T
Imperialism.
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Arian Foster
Yeah, imperialism, whatever the case may be. Because if you think that the United States is just now starting to get into the business of. Of acquiring other territories around the world and moving into them to take advantage of their locations and resources, that's kind of the story of the United States just in general, for better or for worse. Sometimes it's. You can make the argument for a lot of places that we've acquired, we did so for a strategic reason. Didn't always do it in the most ethical ways possible. But that's just the nature of. Of living in a superpower. Is that how. That's how superpowers maintain their superpower status. And there's a lot. There's a lot to get into over the years. And we are born from colonialism as well, from imperialism from the Brits. So we'll get into that a little bit. What do we want to get into first for the news, for what's happening today, Big T, you pick me Pick.
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Big Cat
I sent you. I sent you some stuff.
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Arian Foster
I saw the sheet that you sent over. I didn't know if there was one that.
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Big T
You're a little spicy today.
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Arian Foster
Fired up.
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Big Cat
No, I'm not.
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Big T
I am. I just.
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Big Cat
You are. You are attributing to me things that do not exist.
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Big T
Sounds a little spicy. I could be wrong, brother. I'm okay with being.
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Big Cat
All right. Talk about Michelle Toa.
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Arian Foster
Michelle.
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Big Cat
Now I am. Now I'm mad.
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Arian Foster
Michelle to Foya running for Congress.
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Big T
This is what was bubbling. The whole town. Let's get it.
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Arian Foster
Michelle to foyer, running for, I should say Senate in the great state of Minnesota. From what I understand. Well, I actually don't know what her policies are. This always seemed like the plan for Michelle when she stepped away from from football was to get into politics.
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Big Cat
Have you seen her podcast?
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Arian Foster
I. I have seen clips from her podcast. I was aware that she had a podcast. I can't imagine that it does awesome numbers.
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Big Cat
I was not aware until this morning. It does not do incredible numbers, at least on YouTube.
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Arian Foster
Yeah, I think it's like it's the clips economy. There will be a clip of her that goes viral once every month or so. It's like, oh, yeah, I remember. I remember Michelle to Foya. But yeah, she was on Sunday Night Football for a long time, reported about the NFL and then she stepped away from the game because she wanted to be able to. To speak her mind on various political issues. And I don't know any. I'll say this, I come from a place of ignorance on what Michelle Tafoya's actual policies are and what she says she's going to do once she reaches the Senate. But I'm going to take a guess and big T, you can tell me from what you know if I'm hot or cold on this. I think she's running for Congress on a series of culture war type things. Trying to take back the conversation.
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Big Cat
When you, I mean, I guess that's true. When you say running on that, like.
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Arian Foster
That'S like her main thing.
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Big Cat
I would say that's most people's main thing.
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Arian Foster
The culture war stuff that might be true. I wish that it wasn't true because I think it's ultimately unproductive to run for Congress based on culture war, identity, politic politics, things like that. But she, she does, from what I've seen of her, she is like running on a platform to own the libs before the libs own us. That's my guess.
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Big Cat
I. I think if you believe identity politics is a niche platform that's misguided.
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Arian Foster
I didn't say that. I said that a lot of people are running on identity politics or on culture war stuff. And that stuff, I think is unproductive for helping people.
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Big Cat
Yeah, that's fine.
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Big T
Yeah.
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Arian Foster
So I think I would put her as, like, a culture warrior. I don't know that she has a chance in Minnesota. Typically a pretty reliably blue seat that she's running for. I think that guy Royce White ran for it. The former basketball player who was in like, a million different corruption scandals and misappropriation of funds.
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Big T
He.
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Arian Foster
I want to say he got like 30% of the vote, though. So who knows? I guess anything could happen. Do we know who she's running against?
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Big Cat
No.
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Arian Foster
What do you think about Michelle?
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Big Cat
I mean, I don't really. You know, I don't follow Michelle. So Amy Klobuchar is one of their senators. I don't know if it's her seat or Tina Smith.
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Arian Foster
Now, I heard speculation that Klobuchar might run for governor of Minnesota. Don't know if that's gonna happen.
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Big Cat
That could be it.
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Arian Foster
But, yeah, Klobuchar, she seems popular in Minnesota. I remember when she was trying to run for president that really didn't get off the ground too well. Yeah. Tafoya, possibly a senator.
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Big Cat
I tried to see if there were any interviews on YouTube between Michelle Tafoya and Arian. I couldn't find any.
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Big T
I don't. I remember her. I don't ever remember having interactions. I may have. I'm pretty sure I talked to her.
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Arian Foster
I did the.
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Big T
I did the wash a few times.
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Big Cat
Had to. I mean, y' all played on Sunday Night Football at some point, right?
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Big T
Yeah, I'm. I'm positive I've, like, ran into her, but not, like, enough to give a. What she thinks about trans kids eating cats and dogs or whatever.
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Big Cat
The. During a Monday Night football game in 2013, Tafoya reported that the Texans medical staff was focused on Arian Foster's Achilles after he suffered an injury. So she. She's reported on. On your games. I don't know if she ever had an interview.
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Big T
Yeah, she.
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Big Cat
On Monday Night Football, she was on.
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Arian Foster
NBC, so that'd be Sunday night, right?
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Big Cat
The Google AI says Monday Night Football, but that could be wrong.
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Arian Foster
I remember her on NBC, but she might have bounced around a little bit. I. I don't know. So, yeah, she is running to replace the retiring Senator Tina Smith. I'm trying to find out more about what she is running on. Did I leave football wanting to run for the U.S. senate. It certainly crossed my mind. That's what she said. There's only one candidate in this race who has taken on this is the Craig campaign. So she's running against Craig. I'll be honest with you. I'm reading an article right now that has a massive pop up in the middle of it where I have to sign up and enter my email in order to read the entire article. And so most of the meat of that article is behind that pop up, which I'm not filling out. I'm going to make a prediction. I think she will lose. I think she will get 32% of the vote and then I think she will go back to podcasting.
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Big T
I'm gonna go with 21% of the vote.
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Big Cat
Her website says when Tafoya looks at Minnesota and Washington today, she sees hard working families being left behind while politicians protect themselves. She's ready to fight back, standing for real accountability, fiscal responsibility, secure borders, law and order, and policies that put Minnesota families first.
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Big T
Oh, yeah, fight back, Michelle.
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Big Cat
After years of asking tough questions on the sidelines, Michelle to Foy is stepping up to lead. Determined to help restore integrity, reclaim Minnesota's reputation, and show the nation what resilient, principled leadership looks like. I do have a problem with. After years of asking tough questions on the sidelines. I don't know that I've ever heard a tough question asked on the sidelines.
- [24:26]
Arian Foster
Yeah, what tough questions are we talking about here?
- [24:28]
Big T
Like your Achilles Aryan that tore or what?
- [24:32]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Did she even check with you?
- [24:35]
Big T
No. You have the balls to even check on my Achilles?
- [24:39]
Arian Foster
Coach Tomlin, can you talk about what you'd like to see from Big Ben in the second half tonight?
- [24:43]
Big Cat
What do you need to do differently in the second half?
- [24:46]
Arian Foster
Yeah, talk about that defense. How are we going to deal with that defense?
- [24:50]
Big Cat
I've never heard a good question, let alone a tough one.
- [24:54]
Arian Foster
What's, what's the game plan here for the second half, Coach? How important is it for you guys to compete?
- [25:00]
Big Cat
What did you like in that first half?
- [25:01]
Arian Foster
Yeah, what you like out there? That's a good one.
- [25:04]
Big Cat
Because usually it's, you interview the coach that's ahead going into the half and you say, what'd you like? And they're like, I don't know. We're playing well. We need to, we need to get, to get a couple more stops. Then coming out of the half, you interview the coach that was losing, so he's not as mad. He's had some time to decompress, and you say, what do you need to do better in the second half.
- [25:20]
Arian Foster
I, I respect the reporters that really get in the faces of the players that try to try to get away from the post game interview. Laura Rutledge. Right. With Justin Herbert this year. I think it was after Monday Night Football, and he was like, I just want to go celebrate my teammates. He's like, I'm going to ask you a question, buddy.
- [25:37]
Big Cat
It's in their contract.
- [25:38]
Arian Foster
You were con.
- [25:38]
Big T
Yeah.
- [25:39]
Arian Foster
You were obligated to. To answer me here.
- [25:42]
Big T
Did they say that?
- [25:44]
Arian Foster
No. She just kind of chased him down and she was like, you have to do this. This interview, Justin. And he was like, okay, all right, you win. Sorry, Laura.
- [25:53]
Big T
I see. I said my boys put me on this. I didn't even know the Indiana coach. Yeah, some of them. Some of the. He's. He has more swag than I would ever guess. Just looking at him. Just the. That he says in interviews how he's kind of like, yeah, I'm kind of that dude. Like, just see about me like that.
- [26:12]
Big Cat
I mean, he has maybe the coldest quote of all time. At his introductory press conference, somebody asked like, how are you selling? How do you plan on selling Indiana? Like, the worst program in the country. And he said, I win. Google me. And then went in there and won a national championship in two years.
- [26:30]
Big T
Is he gone or does he stay?
- [26:32]
Big Cat
He's going to make $14 million a year. I think there's a. They resigned him in the middle of this season for like 11. And then he has a clause in his contract that if he won a title, they are required to make him one of the three or five highest paid coaches in the country, I think. So he's getting another raise on top of that.
- [26:54]
Big T
But I'm just like, you know, you know, a lot of them, coaches chase dream jobs that they like, you know, grew up wanting to coach for this team, but I have a favorite or whatever the case may be. So I don't know if, like, that's, That's. That's where he at.
- [27:08]
Big Cat
Yeah, I mean, he's older, too. I don't. I don't think he's eager to. I think he's 64.
- [27:14]
Arian Foster
That sounds right.
- [27:15]
Big Cat
Already won a national championship at Indiana. You've got top portal classes coming in. Like, there's no reason to.
- [27:21]
Arian Foster
Yep. You got Mark Cuban ready to break open the checkbook now.
- [27:24]
Big Cat
Like, anyone would have hired him this year. He could have gone to Penn State or Virginia Tech or wherever.
- [27:29]
Big T
Yeah, I saw Mark Cuban in the stands. What is that?
- [27:32]
Big Cat
He went to Indiana.
- [27:33]
Arian Foster
Indiana Alum. Yeah.
- [27:36]
Big Cat
Does he.
- [27:39]
Big T
Clearly a booster, right?
- [27:40]
Arian Foster
Oh, yeah, yeah. And I don't, I don't know how much is public right now, but the impression that I got is that he wasn't paying a lot of money in the past, but being there for national, he was probably their top. One of their top boosters for sure, but it's not like he was funding the program. And now that they win a national championship and he's there for that, I feel like he's just going to open up the checkbook now and Indiana might get rolling if I'm, if I'm a.
- [28:03]
Big T
Kid coming out, especially in that region and I'm a killer. I got some kind of access to Mark Cuban. I'm staying in that.
- [28:11]
Arian Foster
Yeah. So, yeah, Signetti, it sounds like he's going to stick around. He has no, no desire to go to the NFL right now or probably ever.
- [28:19]
Big Cat
But.
- [28:19]
Arian Foster
Yeah. He was the coach at JMU, Aaron. He was the coach until 2023 at my school and he was really good. He was a great coach. I loved him.
- [28:27]
Big T
Use this information that just had to make it about you.
- [28:30]
Big Cat
I think that's pretty. It's. It's useful information because half their team this year was from JMU too.
- [28:35]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [28:36]
Big T
Is that the dude who blocked the kick? He was right. Yeah, I heard that a couple times.
- [28:39]
Big Cat
And their best receiver.
- [28:40]
Arian Foster
And so they. Yeah, so they, they were all at JMU in 2023, where I think they went 12 and one that year. And they were ineligible for the postseason because we had just moved up to the top of Division 1, the FBS. And so after that season, Indiana hires him. He says, I win. Google me. Then he goes out on center court at an Indiana basketball game and he says, Purdue sucks. And the whole crowd cheers and he goes, but also Ohio State sucks and Michigan sucks. And then he proceeded to kick their asses. It's pretty cool.
- [29:17]
Big T
No, it's like. It's what you want as a player like you. We actually gotta go to war, right. So we actually gotta take these hits. But like the fact that you got our back and you talking that shit with us, I love that shit.
- [29:28]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [29:29]
Big T
That type of shit that make me play for you. I love that.
- [29:31]
Arian Foster
So, yeah, not to make it about me, but their. Their best running back.
- [29:36]
Big T
Just jokes. You're a great guy.
- [29:37]
Arian Foster
Their best running back who led the team in. In rushing touchdowns, he was from jmu. Their receiver who led the team in touchdowns was from jmu. Their defensive end, Kamara, from jmu, arguably their best defensive back, Ponds Also from jmu, like the, the core of that team, their, their linebacker. All American jmu.
- [29:57]
Big T
And so they, so they transferred with the coach to Indiana.
- [30:02]
Arian Foster
Yeah, he. He said, come with me. Let's Dominate Power 4 Football in America together. After we've already dominated, you know, the, the group of five. And they were like, sure, coach, I'll follow you to hell. And then they get there and then they dominate the fbs. It's pretty fucking cool.
- [30:19]
Big T
That is awesome, dog.
- [30:20]
Arian Foster
And then right after the game was over, they had. It was. It was coach and then five players from JMU all standing around the trophy when it was presented. And the first five guys to touch that trophy together were all the JMU guys. It was pretty cool. Very cool moment. But also I, I did think when I was watching that, like, what if they just stuck around? What if. That.
- [30:45]
Big Cat
I was going to ask, do you think if those players stayed. I mean, obviously they had the Heisman Trophy winner at quarterback. So, like, is Alonzo Barnett going to win the national title? I don't think so.
- [30:57]
Arian Foster
Probably not.
- [30:59]
Big Cat
But they'd been a hell of a team.
- [31:00]
Arian Foster
But I do think, like, with Barnett and that group and Signetti, if they'd stuck around, I do think that we probably would have won at least one playoff game.
- [31:09]
Big Cat
I mean, if you beat Oregon on the road, you could have beaten anybody.
- [31:11]
Arian Foster
That's true. That's true. But I mean, obviously Mendoza was a big part of that game. I love him. I love Mendoza. Yeah, I know you. You hate him big time. You said he was.
- [31:21]
Big Cat
I actually said quite the opposite.
- [31:23]
Arian Foster
The worst player in college football.
- [31:25]
Big Cat
It's not what I said.
- [31:26]
Big T
Undeserving Heisman of all.
- [31:27]
Big Cat
No, I said uninspiring.
- [31:29]
Arian Foster
But in retrospect, some, some heard other after that. I know after that championship game, I feel like he. He retroactively won the award.
- [31:40]
Big Cat
Well, that did. That did tick me off a tiny bit. And people, like, they said he didn't have a Heisman moment.
- [31:46]
Big T
You.
- [31:46]
Big Cat
You can't have a Heisman moment after you won the Heisman. But that was. No, that was a regular season. No, it was an incredible moment. It was one of the most iconic plays in the history of college football right there. It can't be a Heisman moment after the Heisman.
- [31:58]
Arian Foster
So, like in, in 20 years, when people look at that play and they're like, what a Heisman moment?
- [32:02]
Big Cat
Yeah, that will be nonsense.
- [32:04]
Arian Foster
Big T is going to raise his hand and be like, actually, that was after the award was correct.
- [32:07]
Big Cat
It's a regular season award. Yeah. It's not a Heisman moment. It's one of the most iconic plays in the history of college football. It was unbelievable.
- [32:15]
Arian Foster
It was, it was the kind of play that as you're watching it, you think to yourself, I'm going to remember this for the rest of my life.
- [32:20]
Big Cat
And did you see the guy, he trucked, laid him out last year at the end of a game at Cal that Miami came back and won that preserved that. They were undefeated at the time and they came back from I think down 35 to 10. And at the end of the game, besides that linebacker laid him out. It probably should have been targeting that would have lost Miami the game. And then he trucks him on that run in the national championship game a year later.
- [32:46]
Arian Foster
It was an incredible play. Big night for Cubans. You had Fernando Mendoza, Mario Crystal Ball and Mark Cuban. Yeah, huge, huge night. Biggest, biggest day for Cuban since the Bay of Pigs. It was pretty cool.
- [33:00]
Big Cat
And did you see that Jamari Sharp, who got the game winning interception, is the nephew of Glenn Sharp who was the DB at Miami, who had the pass interference at the end of the 2002 national championship game.
- [33:13]
Arian Foster
I did not know that. Yeah, that's very cool. That was the one where, where Warren Sapp ran out on the field and started to celebrate that Miami won the national championship.
- [33:22]
Big Cat
I think their whole team did before.
- [33:23]
Arian Foster
The flag came in. Yeah, I think Warren Sapp was like in that end zone, like dancing around. It was a great game. I love the national championship. It was a moment where we're used to seeing blowouts and we got a good competitive game with comebacks and doinks off the upright, big time plays, huge fourth downs. Miami didn't quit. It was just a great game. It was a great night for football. And as weird as, as it is, like the NIL conversation has been used as a, like people talk about college football, they throw out the, the term nil, like a derogatory word about it, like it's ruining the game. And it has its problems. NIL has created a landscape where you have pretty much free agents every off season for everybody. And so it's, it's rare that you see guys sticking around. It's. Every team looks different every year and it kind of removes some of what we thought was the purity of college football from the game, but it never really has been that pure. But it also has enabled teams like Indiana to be able to compete for a championship, which I think is really, really good for the game. But it's also tough if you're like A Maryland fan. Fan or a. I think I use the example, like, Maryland and Arizona, like, they're going to go into every year being like, we could win the national championship. We got to get the right coach. We got to find our Signetti.
- [34:45]
Big Cat
I don't think so.
- [34:47]
Arian Foster
We got to reload.
- [34:47]
Big Cat
I've been seeing that people being like, well, Indiana did it. Anyone can do it. They had a perfect confluence of what one of the. I mean, you can have the conversation. I don't know where you want to put him. One of the best coaches in the history of college football. They had a roster that was very experienced and old, which is. People use that derogatorily, too. I think that should be. Your goal, is to have guys that have played a lot of college football and have a lot of experience. I'm not sure I buy that. Like, well, yeah, sure, yeah, Arizona could win the national championship, or. I'm not. I'm not sure that's the takeaway.
- [35:23]
Arian Foster
But I do think their fan bases think, like, we. It just takes hiring the right coach now.
- [35:28]
Big Cat
Yes, if you hit on a generational hire, yes, you can win the national championship.
- [35:32]
Arian Foster
Big Cat had an interesting take about Signetti. And I. I knew that he was a Nick Saban guy. He coached at Alabama, worked on their staff for years. And I always thought, like, I would tell people at JMU that he is very similar to Nick Saban, and people would, like, laugh at me. I'd be like, I mean, he is. That's just the kind of guy that he is. He's got the same surly mentality. He's a great football coach. And people were like, yeah, okay, Nick Saban, whatever.
- [35:58]
Big Cat
But.
- [35:58]
Arian Foster
Which I get, because Nick Saban's the greatest college football coach ever. But Big Cat had a theory about him. He thinks that Saban doesn't, like. Like Signetti, which I think you can.
- [36:08]
Big Cat
People were throwing that around the other day.
- [36:10]
Arian Foster
You can see how he talks about Signetti, and it's certainly not the same way that he talks about any of the other guys that have worked for him, that have gone on to do great things. He. He seems to be reluctant to praise him, which is unusual. And Big Cat's theory was that Sig doesn't like Saban because Saban kept him down for too long, like, wouldn't promote him to being offensive coordinator and kept him further down in the ranks because for whatever reason, whether it was a personal gripe that he had or it was because he would rather, like, promote younger guys to that position instead of Signetti that have been around for a while. But Big Cat thinks that Saban might have known that Sig was a great coach, didn't want to promote him to OC because then he would get hired somewhere else and go on to do great.
- [36:57]
Big Cat
But, I mean, his. Saban's offensive coordinators got poached every year.
- [37:00]
Arian Foster
Yeah, I don't.
- [37:01]
Big Cat
I don't know, but he did. When they were picking the game, Saban picked Miami and put on a Miami hat and was going all that. Like, he. He was doing a lot.
- [37:08]
Arian Foster
He was doing a lot. And I think what. What Big Cat was saying was that if Signetti got promoted to offensive coordinator, then got hired somewhere else and was awesome, number one, Alabama would lose one of their best guys that they had. Number two, Signetti would start the conversation of, oh, was it Saban or was it Signetti?
- [37:28]
Big Cat
I mean, listen, if he somehow wins another one, which I don't know that I'd say it's likely, but it's more than on the table. He's. He's in the conversation for. I don't think anybody's ever going to overtake Saban. He might be the second best coach.
- [37:43]
Arian Foster
Of all time for what he's done at Indiana.
- [37:47]
Big Cat
He, like. I think it's unequivocal. He's number one right now. Right. Like, if you were. If you were taking a coach, you would take him over Kirby Smarter, Dan Laning or whoever. Like, could Kirby Smart win a national championship at Indiana? I don't know.
- [38:00]
Arian Foster
No, no, No, I don't think so. He's not doing so great at Georgia recently.
- [38:06]
Big Cat
They're still. I mean, they were in the quarterfinals of the playoffs.
- [38:09]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [38:10]
Big Cat
But, I mean, they won the SEC the last two years.
- [38:12]
Arian Foster
Yeah, that's fair. That's a fair point. But I mean, up to his standards that he, you know, he.
- [38:17]
Big Cat
Well, I mean, his standards were having a super team that nobody has anymore.
- [38:22]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [38:23]
Big Cat
If I. If I were to pick right now who wins another national championship, Kurt Signetti at Indiana or Georgia, I think. Think I'd pick Indiana.
- [38:31]
Arian Foster
I would, too. I would, too.
- [38:33]
Big T
He.
- [38:33]
Arian Foster
He's going to.
- [38:34]
Big Cat
Which is an absurd thing to say.
- [38:36]
Arian Foster
The losing his program in the history of college football, they've done it versus.
- [38:40]
Big Cat
Probably the best job in America.
- [38:43]
Arian Foster
Yeah, it's. It's absolutely crazy. I did look up the. The schedule of the 1896 Yale team.
- [38:51]
Big Cat
96. Yeah, you get those mixed up because they were both so great.
- [38:55]
Arian Foster
They're really good teams. I actually think the 96 team was better, even though they didn't go 16.
- [39:00]
Big Cat
People have said that for a long time.
- [39:02]
Arian Foster
Yeah, but the 94 team, they went 16 and oh, they allowed a grand total of, I believe, 13 points for the entire season. They had one game where they allowed four points. They had another game where they allowed four points. Then they had one game where they allowed five points.
- [39:21]
Big Cat
Yeah. They beat Trinity 42 to nothing. Crescent Athletic Club, 10 zip. Orange Athletic Club, 24, nothing.
- [39:30]
Arian Foster
So most of these teams that they played weren't even colleges.
- [39:32]
Big Cat
Volunteer Athletic Association, 42 to nothing. Did army scored. They beat Army 12 to 5.
- [39:37]
Arian Foster
Yep.
- [39:39]
Big Cat
The Boston Athletic Association, 23 nothing. Chicago Athletic Association, 48, nothing. The played Lehigh twice. Beat them 50 to nothing and 34 nothing. Williams, they beat 23 to 4. Don't see a lot of fours.
- [39:55]
Arian Foster
Yeah. And they allowed four points twice that year.
- [39:57]
Big Cat
Harvard, they beat 12 to 4. Yeah.
- [39:59]
Arian Foster
So wait, they allowed four points, four points and five points.
- [40:02]
Big Cat
That's correct.
- [40:03]
Arian Foster
Okay, so, yeah, 13 points all season long. Yeah, I don't think that'll ever be done. Who do you think wins?
- [40:12]
Big Cat
I would. I would have Indiana favored by 317 and a half points.
- [40:19]
Arian Foster
They should score on every play.
- [40:22]
Big Cat
You would think. Especially given that all those guys are dead.
- [40:25]
Arian Foster
That's a good point. That's fair. Also, I think Sig would run it up on them.
- [40:30]
Big Cat
Yeah, he'd send a message.
- [40:32]
Arian Foster
Style points.
- [40:33]
Big Cat
You know, Bill Connolly does his. He has end of season rankings for every single team in college football. Like down to teams you didn't know were schools.
- [40:41]
Arian Foster
Yep.
- [40:42]
Big Cat
His top team this year was Indiana. And the number 766. Last place is Maine Maritime. He has Indiana favored by 154 points over Maine Maritime.
- [40:57]
Arian Foster
I think, I think I would take Indiana.
- [41:00]
Big Cat
I think you have to. But I mean, are the backups going to. You know, when are they coming in?
- [41:04]
Arian Foster
I don't think Maine Maritime has backups.
- [41:07]
Big Cat
No, Indiana's backups.
- [41:08]
Arian Foster
Yeah, I know, but I, I'm saying, like, I. I think that if somebody.
- [41:11]
Big Cat
They probably have 11 guys.
- [41:12]
Arian Foster
Yeah. They play both ways. Three ways. I think if made Maritime gets an injury, they just go out there with 10.
- [41:18]
Big Cat
Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think so.
- [41:19]
Arian Foster
Now if it was Indiana versus Yale, what equipment are we playing with in this game?
- [41:25]
Big Cat
I think each. It's era specific. Okay. Each has their own.
- [41:28]
Arian Foster
Yeah. So yeah, Indiana by probably 700, 800 points.
- [41:33]
Big Cat
Could be.
- [41:35]
Arian Foster
Would they get a turnover on defense on every play?
- [41:41]
Big Cat
You'd have to.
- [41:41]
Arian Foster
How quickly though, would Yale decide to just start taking knees?
- [41:45]
Big Cat
Well, you know, the, the infamous Georgia Tech, Cumberland, 222 to nothing game. Cumberland started punting on first down because they were just getting hurt so bad.
- [41:55]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [41:56]
Big Cat
So they just started punting it.
- [41:57]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Would. Would Yale walk off the field in protest because Indiana had African American players?
- [42:04]
Big Cat
That's a question many are asking.
- [42:05]
Arian Foster
And that would probably mean that Yale would cover the spread. What are the rules for a forfeit?
- [42:11]
Big Cat
Isn't it like two to nothing or something?
- [42:13]
Arian Foster
Yeah, that would be the smart move by, by Yale.
- [42:19]
Big Cat
In the event the team forfeiting the game is already losing at the time of the forfeit, the score stands as is. Otherwise, four fits result in a two nothing score in the National Football League or a one nothing score in high school football. NCAA and Canadian football. So Yale would lose by one.
- [42:35]
Arian Foster
They'd lose by one point. Now would. Would India have to travel to this game? And if so, would they have to take a train?
- [42:44]
Big Cat
You want to play it at a neutral site?
- [42:46]
Arian Foster
It might have to be neutral site.
- [42:47]
Big Cat
What's. What's in between Yale and Indiana? That would be a good venue.
- [42:53]
Arian Foster
Cleveland. Buffalo. Buffalo is not really between Allentown, Pennsylvania.
- [43:01]
Big Cat
Yeah. Play it at Altoona. Played at West Virginia.
- [43:05]
Big T
Okay.
- [43:06]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Oh, that's Signetti. That's Signetti territory.
- [43:11]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [43:12]
Arian Foster
Yeah, that's a. He's a West Virginia guy. That would be a good game. I would. I would like to watch. Can we get the. The AI simulators working on that one? I'd like to see what would happen in that game.
- [43:23]
Big Cat
I mean, the analytics would probably Love Yale.
- [43:26]
Arian Foster
Why?
- [43:27]
Big Cat
13 points allowed all season.
- [43:28]
Arian Foster
Yeah, it's true. Terrible, terrible matchup though. I think they don't have the speed. The helmets would be an issue, too.
- [43:36]
Big Cat
Last game of the season against Princeton. An estimated 30,000 people in attendance.
- [43:41]
Arian Foster
That's pretty crazy.
- [43:43]
Big Cat
At Manhattan Field in New York. Where is that? Oh, it's the Polo Grounds.
- [43:48]
Arian Foster
Oh, you know what? Fuck it. Let Yale play there.
- [43:53]
Big Cat
Well, I think it's apartment buildings now.
- [43:55]
Arian Foster
Oh, maybe at the Javits Center.
- [43:58]
Big T
I don't know.
- [43:58]
Arian Foster
All right, so that's, that's college football sucks that the season's over, but it was a pretty incredible one. Next year we'd still have a week left in college football. Oh, yeah, we're going till, what, January 25th?
- [44:08]
Big Cat
Something like that.
- [44:10]
Arian Foster
That sucks.
- [44:12]
Big Cat
Yeah, it's pretty dumb.
- [44:13]
Arian Foster
You know what else sucks is that the game's gonna be played in Las Vegas.
- [44:16]
Big Cat
Why does that suck?
- [44:17]
Arian Foster
I mean, Las Vegas is cool. It's not college football.
- [44:21]
Big Cat
Yeah, I mean, none of these neutral sites are, you know.
- [44:25]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Big News in terms of this is really local for D.C. people. But we're getting a sphere. Saw that Washington D.C. is getting a Sphere. I can't wait to go to it.
- [44:38]
Big Cat
I don't think the Sphere Sphere should be a multi site deal.
- [44:42]
Arian Foster
It should just be one.
- [44:43]
Big Cat
Yeah, like I'm going to the Sphere. You have to make a pilgrimage to the Sphere.
- [44:47]
Arian Foster
You don't think that every, every major city should have.
- [44:49]
Big Cat
No, because then it loses its charm.
- [44:52]
Arian Foster
But isn't it cool? Like, I want to go to one.
- [44:54]
Big Cat
Yes, but it's. It's cool that you have to go to Vegas for it.
- [44:58]
Arian Foster
Yeah, like you, you have to opt into the Sphere.
- [45:00]
Big Cat
There's one Sphere.
- [45:01]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [45:01]
Big Cat
Like what happens when. I think Zach Brown band has a residency at the Sphere right now? So what happens in 10 years when there's nine spheres and that you just do a Sphere tour? Like the whole tour is on.
- [45:13]
Big T
That's kind of cool.
- [45:14]
Big Cat
Different Spheres.
- [45:15]
Big T
Kind of like that. The Sphere tour. It's kind of cool. Actually.
- [45:18]
Arian Foster
I've never been to the Sphere. I plan on going soon, but I. I think there's something to be said for the fact that if I did go to the Sphere, I would be planning ahead. Like six months from now. I got tickets to go see the Eagles at the Sphere. I'm making this whole trip to Vegas.
- [45:35]
Big T
They're still alive.
- [45:36]
Arian Foster
Yeah, they're still. I, I do think that they're playing at the Sphere. Then you make this whole plan. You build it up, you go out to Vegas, you go to the Sphere, you have a great time, and you're like, oh, this fear is incredible. If it becomes another local concert venue in any city, then like a drop of a hat, you don't really have anything else going on that Friday night. You want to go to the Sphere, like you're going to the movies.
- [45:59]
Big T
Two of them died.
- [46:00]
Arian Foster
Okay, Rip. But then you. It kind of loses the. The allure that makes it special.
- [46:09]
Big T
I don't know. I like the idea of a Sphere Tour, man. That, that kind of sold me. I was with you initially, but then you said Spirit Tour. That's kind of fired up. Because Vegas ain't for everybody, though, you know? I mean, like. I mean, Vegas ain't even for me. I just. There's a few golf courses I like, and I don't like the nightlife of Vegas. I'm just too old for that. But like, if there was another Sphere in another city that's fire.
- [46:32]
Arian Foster
I think there's a couple cities I would be okay with the Sphere.
- [46:35]
Big T
In. There's one in Dallas. What's the junk called? Where this. Is that immersive?
- [46:40]
Big Cat
I was just fixing to ask, is it Houston or Dallas that has the.
- [46:43]
Big T
Dallas. Yeah. I commented under the post that the homies sent me. He's like. I was like, yo, this should look dope. They DM me. It was like, yo, come up and whatever. I was like, bet I still ain't done it, but I'm gonna do that. That sounds like the sphere though. It's like pretty much the same thing, right? It's like, except they watch like football.
- [47:00]
Big Cat
You do football games and it's sports mostly.
- [47:03]
Big T
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see.
- [47:05]
Arian Foster
They did.
- [47:05]
Big T
They, they. I started following. They do. They played the Matrix on there. I would do that.
- [47:11]
Arian Foster
I think, I think Miami could have a sphere. I could see that.
- [47:16]
Big T
I just don't like Miami, man. There's not, I don't think there's anything that's going to get me to go to Miami.
- [47:20]
Arian Foster
Well, so that's where they had the national championship this year. And afterwards they went out, they partied at the club eleven. Did you ever go to eleven?
- [47:27]
Big T
I never parted in Miami. I hate Miami. Like not the people. I love Cuban sandwiches, all that. But as mammy's not for me though.
- [47:37]
Arian Foster
11 seems like a good time if you're, if you're 22 and just won a national championship, probably the best place on earth.
- [47:43]
Big T
It's for that for me. Miami's for the young. Like I want to go get drunk and be in the streets.
- [47:53]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [47:53]
Big Cat
I can't believe they got Fernando there.
- [47:55]
Arian Foster
Yeah, Fernando. I, I love Fernando, man. He seems like a. How old is a good dude? Is he 22?
- [48:02]
Big Cat
Yeah, I'd assume 22. He's a senior.
- [48:05]
Big T
Yeah. You deserve to be in the streets at that age.
- [48:07]
Arian Foster
Seems like a good dude. I, I love his post game press conferences that he does when they, they interview him and seems like he's got his index cards that he's prepared and drops big four syllable words on us. And then he, he let the F bomb slip, which a lot of people were, were upset with.
- [48:23]
Big T
Oh, I like my kids were watching. Are you serious?
- [48:26]
Arian Foster
I liked it.
- [48:27]
Big Cat
Oh, he's only a junior by the way.
- [48:29]
Arian Foster
Oh, really? Yeah, I think he's going to be a great NFL player.
- [48:32]
Big Cat
No, he did that on purpose.
- [48:35]
Arian Foster
The, the. Yeah, he did.
- [48:37]
Big Cat
Well, you know, his whole thing, the whole year he says like, let's flip and go.
- [48:40]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [48:41]
Big Cat
And so they won the title and he, he finally said it.
- [48:44]
Arian Foster
His teammates were probably like, if you win you got to drop an F bomb. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think that he is. He's probably a little bit different.
- [48:51]
Big T
Shows a little, you know, shows a little edge right there.
- [48:55]
Arian Foster
And Tom Brady was there. Mark Davis was there. I think he's going to be a Raider next year. I think he's going to be good NFL player, A very good NFL player. And his family is like, they seem like the sweetest people.
- [49:06]
Big T
Oh, he came from Cal. I didn't know that.
- [49:08]
Arian Foster
Yep.
- [49:12]
Big T
I forgot. That's a whole industry in itself now. Coaches can like, see backups with potential and be like, hey, man, come. You ain't getting no burn over there. Come over here.
- [49:21]
Big Cat
Well, he started at Cal, but his, like his brother was his backup at Indiana. He just transferred to Georgia Tech and he's going to be their starter next year.
- [49:29]
Big T
Georgia, that's. I hope they do well. Always. One of my best friends is. Is like the quality control guy over there. And ever since they've been doing good, he'd been, you know, been doing good.
- [49:42]
Big Cat
You know, UT plays them in Atlanta next year.
- [49:45]
Big T
I believe I'm going to that game. Really believe I'm going to the game.
- [49:47]
Big Cat
Yeah, I'm going. I'll see you there.
- [49:50]
Big T
I'll see you there.
- [49:51]
Arian Foster
Big them.
- [49:51]
Big T
See if I can't get you on.
- [49:52]
Arian Foster
The sidelines, B. I would, I would appreciate that.
- [49:55]
Big T
Yeah, I got.
- [49:56]
Big Cat
Well, would it be on Tech sideline? That might be a problem.
- [50:00]
Arian Foster
I don't think they.
- [50:01]
Big Cat
Well, we'll figure it out. I mean, it's.
- [50:03]
Big T
I'll. I'll ask. I'll ask Scott. I'm like, yo, if I can get on the sidelines, can. My man's going on yosa. I'll ask.
- [50:10]
Big Cat
It's eight months out. We got time. But Braves are home against the Phillies that weekend and Tennessee Georgia Tech gonna be. Going to be awesome.
- [50:18]
Big T
It's gonna be a nice little weekend for you. You'll be super.
- [50:20]
Big Cat
Well, I've got my hotel booked.
- [50:23]
Big T
Oh, you already? Oh, see, I'll do it like a.
- [50:25]
Big Cat
Weekend as soon as this. The schedule comes out. I identified the games I'm going to and get all that set up.
- [50:32]
Big T
I wish I had that gene, whatever that.
- [50:34]
Big Cat
Well, you have to had that. Atlanta's different because, like, Georgia Tech games aren't going to really affect hotel prices in Atlanta. But if you're going to Knoxville, Tennessee or South Bend, Indiana or wherever, like, you need to be on it.
- [50:46]
Big T
Yeah, no, you're right. I just, I don't have that. Granted, I have the luxury, but even If I didn't, I'll probably just miss out because I just don't have it. It's just responsibilities.
- [50:57]
Big Cat
I don't remember the last road game I went to. Oh, I guess Vandy last year. But I don't even.
- [51:02]
Big T
It's not really a road.
- [51:03]
Big Cat
I don't even count that.
- [51:04]
Big T
Yeah.
- [51:05]
Big Cat
Been to a lot of neutral sites.
- [51:07]
Arian Foster
I don't know.
- [51:07]
Big T
Except for now.
- [51:09]
Big Cat
Yeah. I mean they're good now, but.
- [51:11]
Big T
Yeah. So it could be like a good little.
- [51:13]
Big Cat
It is. It's just like when I'm home for Thanksgiving, it's like it's down. It doesn't feel like you're going to a. You know, like you're traveling somewhere. Go. For the purpose of going to the game. Anyway.
- [51:24]
Big T
My. My back. Screen saver on my, on my, on my desktop is like this fall tree road where it looks like it's. I don't know where it is, but it looks like it's in Tennessee. It's gorgeous. So that's, that's the time period of like Thanksgiving. I do miss that about Tennessee. That, that, that fall ish. Winter beautiful mirage of colors with the trees and the brisk winter. I love that.
- [51:51]
Big Cat
It's beautiful. It's God's country. You see what's happening in Tennessee this weekend? Allegedly.
- [51:56]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Yeah. Thoughts and prayers to the good people.
- [51:59]
Big Cat
Of Tennessee and North Carolina and Georgia and.
- [52:03]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Like the entire mid Atlantic. Yeah. Parts of the South.
- [52:07]
Big T
What's happening?
- [52:08]
Big Cat
We're talking about 2ft of snow and like an inch of ice.
- [52:12]
Big T
Oh yeah. Punks. To Tony. Ted, he's. He's off to another vacation. So in comes a freeze in Texas.
- [52:21]
Arian Foster
Is he actually leaving?
- [52:23]
Big T
Yeah.
- [52:24]
Arian Foster
God, I love Texas.
- [52:25]
Big T
He got spotted on. He got spotted on a plane and they were like, there's gonna be another free. Because there's supposed to be a free. The only reason why I know there's a freeze this weekend is because my pool dude was like, yo, the system is blah blah blah. We trying to get it fixed before the freezing. I was like, bet. And then sure enough, I see the news about Ted Cruz dipping.
- [52:42]
Arian Foster
I'm like, that's how. You know he's the canary, Tony.
- [52:46]
Big T
Yeah.
- [52:46]
Big Cat
That's like how they talk about recession indicators. That's a bad weather indicator.
- [52:50]
Arian Foster
That's the, the Pentagon pizza.
- [52:52]
Big Cat
If Ted's leaving in January.
- [52:53]
Big T
Yes.
- [52:54]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [52:55]
Big T
Cruise travel tracker.
- [52:56]
Arian Foster
I remember when I was in. When I was in Austin, they used to cancel school if there was. If the temperature got below freezing.
- [53:02]
Big Cat
Sometimes we got a school cancel because it was too cold. One time.
- [53:06]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Because they don't have the infrastructure for the pipes. If there's any precipitation at all, it's going to freeze. It's going to everything up. My apartment complex laid down a bunch of sand and salt one day because the temperature was getting below 32. There was no rain or anything like that, but they were like, wow, it's cold. We better.
- [53:23]
Big T
We better.
- [53:24]
Arian Foster
I've seen other states put down salt when it's cold outside, so we better do that too. They just don't know how to handle it at all. They have no snow.
- [53:32]
Big T
I don't know if this is good advice, but they always. I've heard here, I've never even actually checked, but they say like, like slowly run your. Like hot water, drip it throughout the night. Yeah. So that the faucets stay warm. I don't know if that's good advice or not, but that's just what I've heard over the years. Let's check.
- [53:49]
Arian Foster
I think, I think older houses, you probably have to do that. Probably a lot of houses in the south that don't. Where it doesn't ever get below freezing. If it's going to probably a good idea to do that. Chicago, we're good. We got it made up here. We can handle it. Except this weekend it's gonna. Oh my God. This weekend it's gonna get down to like negative 18 degrees.
- [54:10]
Big T
Oh, yeah, it's. It's a real thing. You should run both hot and cold water as slow and steady truckle during a freeze, especially from faucets on exterior walls. Because flowing water is much harder to freeze. Preventing costly burst pipes add benefit of keeping both hot and cold lines moving. Steady flow, not just a drip, helps prevent ice buildup. Nice. I thought it was a wives tale.
- [54:34]
Arian Foster
Yeah, yeah, it's not going to be great this weekend.
- [54:37]
Big Cat
Friday, the high is negative 1. The low is only negative 3. So we're staying consistent. But it will feel like negative 24. Oh my God.
- [54:49]
Big T
Crazy.
- [54:50]
Arian Foster
A high of no degrees less than.
- [54:55]
Big Cat
If you have no degrees, you have more than you will have on Friday.
- [54:58]
Arian Foster
Oh my God. Oh my God.
- [55:01]
Big T
Friday it's going to be 70.
- [55:03]
Arian Foster
Here you respectfully.
- [55:06]
Mackenzie
Why'd you have to say that?
- [55:08]
Arian Foster
You're such a.
- [55:09]
Big T
It's going to be a little cold. Saturday gets to 61. Sunday 40s. The high. That's. That's pretty cool.
- [55:18]
Arian Foster
You'll be playing golf and shorts on.
- [55:20]
Big T
Friday and then Monday is 47 and it gets incrementally back up. We're gonna be in the 60s by Wednesday.
- [55:26]
Big Cat
What temp do you stop wearing shorts at Aryan?
- [55:30]
Mackenzie
Seems like a shorts in like, 35 degrees type of guy.
- [55:34]
Big T
Nah, 35 is kind of crazy. I would say like 50s. I'm in the 50s. I could get away with shorts, but with a top on. You know what I'm saying?
- [55:42]
Big Cat
I was like 55ish.
- [55:44]
Big T
Yeah, that. But that's. That's like my football days, like, I never really covered the bottom, you know, So I never. I don't. It doesn't really affect me like that. So I think 50s is good. 40s is. It's. You start to, you know, the breeze can creep up a little bit, the shorts. So, yeah, let's say 50s.
- [56:04]
Big Cat
I agree.
- [56:04]
Arian Foster
This sucks.
- [56:06]
Big T
Yeah. That's crazy.
- [56:07]
Mackenzie
I'm getting on big T's bandwagon of, like, why the do we live here? Like, why don't we just all give.
- [56:14]
Big Cat
It a few years? I'm sure we're headed to San Francisco or Portland. We'll just hit them all.
- [56:24]
Arian Foster
This is going to be. I'm going to do a public service announcement. It's. Anybody that's. That's living in one of these zones that's getting hit with, like, negative 10 degree weather this weekend, put some salt down underneath your garage door. Please do that.
- [56:39]
Mackenzie
I've never heard of that.
- [56:41]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Does it happen to me?
- [56:43]
Big T
The witches away.
- [56:44]
Arian Foster
I've told this story.
- [56:45]
Big Cat
My.
- [56:45]
Arian Foster
My first winter in Chicago, there was a week where it was like, yeah, negative 10 degrees. Wind chill was negative 30. And I went out to open up my garage, hit the button. The garage door started to lift off the ground. Like, the motor part started to lift off the ground, but the bottom was frozen to my driveway, and so the bottom stuck to the ground as the motor pulled the top off my garage door. So, like, split in half. I didn't know that that was the thing that you had to watch out for in Chicago. I was not aware that it was that cold here. So. Yeah, There you go. 67 degrees. That's really nice.
- [57:23]
Big T
Six. Seven.
- [57:24]
Arian Foster
That's really nice. Blake's going to be outside on the porch all day, all night. He's gonna be so happy. My neighbors are gonna be like, you're trying to kill your dog. And I'm gonna be like, I can't get him to come inside.
- [57:35]
Mackenzie
Will you walk Blake in that kind of weather, or will you just let him go out on your little porch thing?
- [57:40]
Arian Foster
I'll. I'll walk him a little bit, but I will also put on two. I'll put on the long johns. Two pairs of pants, snow boots, undershirt, hoodie, winter coat, gloves, and then winter hat.
- [57:56]
Mackenzie
Yeah. See my mom.
- [57:57]
Arian Foster
And the hood over the winter hat.
- [57:58]
Mackenzie
My mom. Tops, taps how she's like, the dog's not getting a walk today.
- [58:01]
Arian Foster
And I'll go out there, and I'll stay out there for about 10 minutes. And Blake will be having the best time of his life, and they'll be like, we got to go inside, buddy. And then he'll just start rolling around on the ground, and then my hands will get super cold. My face will feel like it's going to fall off, and then I'll have to sprint back to my house because I feel like I'm about to die.
- [58:17]
Mackenzie
At least you have that area in your house that you can just let him go.
- [58:22]
Arian Foster
Yeah. So he'll. He'll do that.
- [58:23]
Mackenzie
Be. Be safe.
- [58:25]
Arian Foster
He'll keep watch over the neighborhood. But, yeah, it's. It's going to be. It's brutal. But maybe we get through this and then that's the downside to it. At Bubble, we're all about helping you find someone who vibes with the real you this year. Meet real people on Bumble who actually want you for you. Whether you're looking for big soul shaking, love or fun, casual dates on Bumble, clear and honest intentions lead to better, better matches. When you say what you're looking for up front, you get more aligned and meaningful connections. With features like photo and ID verification, you feel more confident the person you're talking to is real. Start your year off with real connections on Bumble. Download Bumble.
- [59:02]
Big T
Today I'll give you a Django update, bro. This. This little. So I got camera in my living room and then on my porch. And I don't know if I tell you he knows how to open the door, so I didn't know he knew how to open the front door, though. Like, I knew he knew what. I would have different handles. Yeah. Yes. So he'll. And it's not on accident. He knows what he's doing now. So. Because I watched him do it. So he'll. He'll put his paw, like on the British brick. And then there's a door handle. It's not a knob. It's like a. It's like a little lever.
- [59:35]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [59:36]
Big T
And so he'll put his paw right there, and he'll start to swipe. He swipes at the door handle, and he gets in. And so we have to lock. If I put him in the back for a while, I have to lock it or Else he gets in to the door. Yeah. So when we leave the house, I put him in the backyard and let him roam. So we go leave. We take the family dim sum. We go get some dim sum, and all of a sudden, I get an alert from. Usually when I get an alert, it's like somebody's at the front, they dropping off a package or something. I look and it says animal in the front yard. I was like, what the. So I look and Django running out the front door, and I'm like, how the fuck did he get in that? I thought. So I found out my daughter didn't lock the back door, but I'm like, how did he open the front? And I look at the footage. She didn't lock the front either. So he comes in the back door, opens the front door, which is a smaller latch. Crazy that he opened that. Like, insane. Goes out the front door and just kind of runs around the front yard for, like, 10 minutes. Goes back in the house. I thought he was about to tear shit up, so I told my daughter that, yo, go drive home and put him back. So, like, he was in the house for, like, 30 minutes by himself. All he did was grab my daughter's croc, hop up on my couch, and just start chewing it. I was watching him on the camera the whole time. That's all. Like, I was like, yo, this is actually. He might be a good dog. He didn't run away. He wasn't. He just. This is home. But, like, he popped up on my spot because I have a certain spot at my house. I'm like, he popped up on my spot, curled up, and just started chewing the croc. And I was like, that's. That's kind of cool.
- [61:06]
Arian Foster
Yeah. All things considered, for a puppy, that's not bad. But it sounds like you've got, like, a. A genius of a dog.
- [61:13]
Big T
He's insane, though. And I thought it was. Like I said, I thought it was.
- [61:16]
Big Cat
It was.
- [61:16]
Big T
I was on accident. So we test him. I've tested him multiple times. I close the door and don't lock it. Every single time he gets back in every single time. You know, he knows how to open the door. He's a velociraptor.
- [61:27]
Arian Foster
They can open doors.
- [61:29]
Big T
Clever girl.
- [61:30]
Arian Foster
That's. That's crazy. So you gotta lock doors around your dog?
- [61:34]
Big T
I gotta lock the door around this dog. But to me, that. That's a good sound. Like, I wasn't even mad. I was, like, impressed. But I was also like. So that tells me when I start to Train him. He's gonna respond very well to training because he's not. He's smart. He's a smart dog.
- [61:48]
Arian Foster
That's crazy stuff.
- [61:49]
Big T
Yeah.
- [61:50]
Arian Foster
Big T, what else we got in the news today?
- [61:53]
Big Cat
There was a study done by. Hold, please. It's the. The account just says dingers. I don't. I thought it was a reporter or something. And he went through, I guess, voter registrations of all available professional athletes.
- [62:14]
Arian Foster
Okay.
- [62:14]
Big Cat
And compiled a graphic of the party affiliations of the voter registration data from the professional sports leagues. Have you looked at it?
- [62:26]
Arian Foster
I just looked at it. Yeah.
- [62:27]
Big Cat
Okay. I was going to. Arian, have you looked at it?
- [62:30]
Big T
I have not.
- [62:32]
Big Cat
Well, no, no, no, don't, because I'm. I'm curious what you think.
- [62:34]
Arian Foster
Each.
- [62:36]
Big Cat
So, like the NFL, he's got Republican, Democrat, and Independent.
- [62:41]
Big T
What.
- [62:41]
Big Cat
What would you guess the numbers are?
- [62:44]
Big T
The numbers. I just pulled it up. Let me get it out of here. I was. I would probably say more Democrat than Republican, for sure. And it's the NFL, you said? Yeah, yeah. I don't know. 60.
- [63:05]
Big Cat
So his data has 34% Democrat, 20% Republican and 44% independent.
- [63:14]
Big T
That. That's telling.
- [63:16]
Arian Foster
Also, this is from 24 states in Washington, D.C. so I wonder how that breaks down. Like the 24 states that you could get this information from.
- [63:25]
Big Cat
Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Maine, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Utah, and West Virginia.
- [63:40]
Arian Foster
Okay. I think looking at these states, it might skew a little bit Republican, but it has. There's. There's definitely some Democrat leaning states. Heavy Democrat states, too, like New York, but also like New Jersey.
- [63:56]
Big Cat
If these are professional athletes, these are guys from everywhere that they just happen to live in those places. So it's not like. Yeah, you probably have a more representative sample than just those states.
- [64:06]
Arian Foster
That's a fair point. Yeah.
- [64:08]
Big T
This is probably on par with everything that I thought. So, like, the big. The. The telling number to me is the independence. Right. This to me is the people who don't really give a. Either way or don't pay attention to politics in any kind of real way. Not typecasting, but I'm. I'm positive that's more what it is. I'm pretty sure there are real independence, but that was probably. They're probably few and far between, and they probably tend. Independence. Tend to lean right more than they do left, I would say probably. And then the NFL, 34 to 20. That probably makes sense too, I would assume. What did they do they do. They do a position breakdown.
- [65:01]
Big Cat
Yeah, there was. I had it pulled up. It was. It was exactly what you'd expect.
- [65:08]
Mackenzie
Defensive backs were the most left leaning and long snappers are Stephen Miller type.
- [65:16]
Arian Foster
Long snappers are conservatives.
- [65:20]
Mackenzie
It was zero percent Democrats for long snappers.
- [65:23]
Arian Foster
That's so funny.
- [65:24]
Mackenzie
And punter. Sorry, it may be punters and not long snappers, but it's. Long snappers was second and it was like 1%.
- [65:32]
Arian Foster
Where do you see this breakdown?
- [65:34]
Big Cat
I had it. Let me find it.
- [65:38]
Arian Foster
I want to. Yeah, what positions? Okay.
- [65:41]
Mackenzie
I saw a tweet saying that defensive backs make sense because of. They have to like hold up the whole system. And punters and long snappers kind of just benefit from everyone else's work.
- [65:59]
Arian Foster
It'd be interesting to see where.
- [66:02]
Big Cat
Get a bad long snapper, see how long that works out.
- [66:07]
Big T
Oh, that's funny.
- [66:08]
Arian Foster
I want to see how kickers factor into this.
- [66:11]
Big Cat
I mean, you could probably guess it exactly right.
- [66:14]
Arian Foster
Well, I, I don't know with kickers.
- [66:16]
Big T
Harrison, but they're definitely right. Many for my.
- [66:19]
Arian Foster
I want, I want my kickers right down the middle. I want independence here.
- [66:22]
Mackenzie
I'm sending it over to you guys right now. There's the.
- [66:27]
Arian Foster
This is the position with kickers. Yeah, I hear you. It's like you've got you. I could see them skewing to the right, but also like they're. If you're a kicker, you're probably vaguely soccer adjacent, which I would imagine would skew more left leaning than other football positions.
- [66:45]
Big Cat
That was actually my. The most interesting one on Here is the NHL. 44% Republican, 48% Independent, 5.6% Democratic. And at least from what you see on social media, hockey is probably like the furthest left fans of any sport in America. I think soccer, it's because it's soccer.
- [67:08]
Big T
Because most of the fans are Canadian.
- [67:09]
Big Cat
Right. But even the ones in like, even like I follow the Nashville Predators, the fans I see online are like very far left. It's just, it's a weird. I don't, I don't necessarily understand why for hockey, I guess it is partly. Probably a trickle down from Canada, but.
- [67:25]
Arian Foster
I think it's a trickle down. And also like hockey is not a niche sport, but it's more so than football. And I think the more likely you are to follow a sport that's a little bit off the beaten path in America, like hockey or like soccer, the more likely you are to drift to the left a little bit.
- [67:45]
Mackenzie
Also, this quote tweet is from Smiley Moth and they Said this wokeness meter checks out because defensive backs understand systemic injustice while special teams players live off government handouts and orient their politics around resentment of their low social status.
- [67:58]
Arian Foster
And they also disrespect the flags a lot. They don't. They get mad whenever one of those is out there.
- [68:03]
Mackenzie
Yes.
- [68:05]
Arian Foster
Now, the defensive ends would be interesting to me because you've got a couple different types of defensive ends. You've got some guys like your Boses, your. To throw it back a little bit. Your. Was it Jason Babbins of the world?
- [68:21]
Big Cat
Good player.
- [68:23]
Arian Foster
Yeah. You've got.
- [68:24]
Big T
What did he do? He went like that, right?
- [68:27]
Arian Foster
Yeah. He had a crazy celebration or a unique one. But you've also got guys that are without a doubt more liberal or I guess more democratic.
- [68:40]
Big Cat
It only groups by D line and linebacker. D line is 38% Democrat. Linebackers, 36.
- [68:47]
Arian Foster
Okay, what about.
- [68:49]
Big Cat
So it depends how you categorize some of those guys.
- [68:52]
Arian Foster
I think tackles are more left leaning. I think the center. I think the center is probably.
- [69:00]
Big Cat
Offensive tackles.
- [69:02]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Offensive tackles. I think that the center position, whether it's long snapper or if it's just a center in general, they seem to be like. When I think of a stereotypical center, I think of a guy from Nebraska.
- [69:15]
Big Cat
If your center's a Democrat, you're a bad football team.
- [69:18]
Arian Foster
Yeah, that's probably fair.
- [69:20]
Big Cat
I actually think if you went through, there's like three positions you could identify. And if you tell me the political party that player belongs to, I can tell you if the two team's good or not.
- [69:29]
Arian Foster
I think if you have a conservative running back, your team probably not that good. If you have a conservative wide receiver, you could be good.
- [69:36]
Big Cat
Depends.
- [69:36]
Arian Foster
It depends. Yeah. Tight end. I would like my tight ends to be maga.
- [69:42]
Big Cat
Yeah. Well, yes, yes. But yes, I think, I think.
- [69:48]
Mackenzie
Is that why the Chiefs were bad this year?
- [69:49]
Arian Foster
But I want my tight end to be maga. Just in terms of like, vibes only not actually like, he doesn't know. He doesn't know shit about politics.
- [69:57]
Mackenzie
Right.
- [69:57]
Big Cat
Want the tik tock woman's dream man of a guy who looks, acts and. And does everything that a Republican does but isn't a Republican.
- [70:05]
Arian Foster
I want a super uninformed MAGA guy as my tight end. A guy who's like, I don't know, K seems like a. Yeah, he just.
- [70:13]
Mackenzie
Listens to Theo Vaughn.
- [70:14]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's who I want.
- [70:17]
Mackenzie
I want a dedicated Theo Von listener.
- [70:19]
Big Cat
My tight end, 100% running back is the second highest Democrat at 44.
- [70:26]
Arian Foster
Okay.
- [70:27]
Big Cat
Wide receiver, 38.
- [70:28]
Arian Foster
What about quarterbacks?
- [70:30]
Big Cat
Quarterback is 33% Republican, 20% Democrat. 48. And neither.
- [70:36]
Arian Foster
I think you could go. I, I don't think that you can make a call.
- [70:39]
Big Cat
I think that one's either way your.
- [70:40]
Arian Foster
Quarterback based on party affiliate. There are good and bad of both, like Lamar Jackson.
- [70:45]
Big Cat
Fine people on both sides.
- [70:46]
Arian Foster
Lamar seems to be a Trump guy. Maybe from what we've seen.
- [70:49]
Big Cat
I think he's. I think he's what you described the tight ends as. I think he's a very low information MAGA vibes guy.
- [70:57]
Arian Foster
Trumpish guy.
- [70:58]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [70:59]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [71:00]
Big Cat
Why?
- [71:00]
Arian Foster
The buddy pregnant.
- [71:01]
Big Cat
Exactly.
- [71:02]
Arian Foster
Yeah, I think, I think that, yeah, that position can go either way. I, Ideally I'd like my, my quarterback to just not make a stance one way or the other just because I don't want reporters to be asking about politics and then that's less time that he's in the film room.
- [71:19]
Big Cat
Offensive line is actually, it's 26 Republican, 23 Democrat, 51. Neither. That's closer than I would anticipate.
- [71:26]
Arian Foster
See, that's the beauty of football locker room is the offensive linemen are always buddies with each other. They might not vote the same way, but I think in theory they like a lot of the same stuff, their unit. Yeah, it's like we like drinking beer and hanging out with each other. We don't talk politics. Keep that in the bedroom. What about. So it's defensive backs. Is it broken down safety?
- [71:50]
Big T
Where do you got the. Yeah, where you got the. The breakdown.
- [71:53]
Big Cat
So Madeline Senate? No, it's just db it doesn't have corner and.
- [71:59]
Arian Foster
Okay, what about punters?
- [72:01]
Big Cat
Punters are 57% Republican, 43% neither. There are no Democrats reported.
- [72:08]
Arian Foster
Okay.
- [72:09]
Mackenzie
There was one long snapper who, quote, tweeted it who seems to be the only Democratic long snapper. And his name was like Tabin or something. And he was like, I'm holding this up all by myself. Tabor Pepper. Yeah.
- [72:31]
Arian Foster
And so he is the 49ers long snapper.
- [72:35]
Mackenzie
Yes.
- [72:38]
Arian Foster
So he is the. Yeah, he's the one guy.
- [72:40]
Mackenzie
He's the one guy doesn't even make up a percentage point. Is he a punter?
- [72:48]
Arian Foster
No, he's a long snapper. So there's no. Yeah, there's.
- [72:53]
Big Cat
I'm actually shocked there are no punters.
- [72:55]
Arian Foster
Me too. Well, I guess this isn't Harrison Butker.
- [73:00]
Mackenzie
Starts to make a lot more sense.
- [73:01]
Arian Foster
It's not everybody in the league, so it's not a full representation, but it's where they could get the data from.
- [73:08]
Big T
They Say how many teams?
- [73:12]
Arian Foster
24 states in Washington, D.C. so 25 teams.
- [73:18]
Big Cat
I mean. Yeah, we'd have to go back and look at the.
- [73:20]
Arian Foster
Yeah. How many states have teams? Okay. Washington.
- [73:25]
Big Cat
So it was.
- [73:26]
Big T
Florida has. Florida has what, two or three? California has three.
- [73:29]
Big Cat
But keep in mind, I guess these guys could live in Florida in the off season and that's where they vote.
- [73:35]
Arian Foster
It could be registered. Yeah. So I guess we don't really know.
- [73:41]
Big Cat
But you get a good sample because these guys are from all over the place.
- [73:44]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [73:45]
Big Cat
But a lot of them might live disproportionately in Florida or Georgia or Nevada.
- [73:49]
Arian Foster
Or wherever MLB is. Not surprising to me. 53% Republican, 36% independent, 7.8% Democratic, and then 2.1% other. I want to know who's like, who's in the Green Party. Do you think the other is Green Party or do you think it's like.
- [74:07]
Big Cat
What else is there?
- [74:09]
Arian Foster
Do you. Do you want to know?
- [74:12]
Big Cat
I mean, unless you're talking about some crazy.
- [74:15]
Arian Foster
Getting some crazy stuff, I would guess.
- [74:18]
Big T
It'S probably needing a license to toast your own damn toast.
- [74:23]
Big Cat
Well, I assume that they. Because in one it says Independent, in another it says neither. So I would guess if you, if you're registered as a Libertarian, you would probably just fall into the independent, right?
- [74:36]
Arian Foster
It could be other. If you're an active member of the Libertarian Party. Yeah, I guess I could see. Yeah, I could see baseball having some Libertarians.
- [74:45]
Big T
Libertarians.
- [74:46]
Arian Foster
Because I was thinking, like, if this is historical. Is that. Is that John Rocker? Is that that slice that we're looking at right there?
- [74:53]
Big Cat
Juicy. He's getting in on the daycare.
- [74:56]
Arian Foster
Oh, what's he doing? He started starting Maggie daycare.
- [75:00]
Big Cat
No, he did a. He did a Nick Shirley video.
- [75:02]
Arian Foster
Oh, he did.
- [75:03]
Big Cat
He showed up at a daycare in Minnesota, I think so with like a doll. It may have been Ohio.
- [75:11]
Arian Foster
To try to register his.
- [75:13]
Mackenzie
His doll baby.
- [75:14]
Arian Foster
His doll baby, yes. What happened?
- [75:16]
Big Cat
They just got in like a screaming match and I think he left. I didn't watch the whole thing.
- [75:20]
Arian Foster
Okay. I. Did you guys see the Nick Shirley interview with Channel 5? Did we talk about that?
- [75:26]
Big Cat
Oh, no.
- [75:28]
Arian Foster
I like, I like the Channel 5 guy a lot. Andrew is a. I think he's a very interesting guy. Are you familiar with his work?
- [75:35]
Big Cat
No.
- [75:35]
Arian Foster
He's like a legend. He's like independent news and he does a. He does a good job. He sat down, had a, I think two hour long conversation with Nick Shirley and the reaction was kind of what I said when I saw the video for the first time. And I tried to watch the Nick Shirley video objectively, I was like, it. It seems like there has been a history of fraud in Minnesota, especially given that one organization that got busted. But Nick Shirley does not seem like he is a smart person at all doing actual journalism. And in this conversation with Channel 5.
- [76:09]
Big T
Oh, boy.
- [76:10]
Arian Foster
I. I don't want to take a victory lap on it, but he does. He can't really speak, which is kind of a problem if that's. If that's what you're. If you're trying to communicate your positions on things. And then he got upset with Channel 5 for like deceptive editing.
- [76:29]
Big Cat
I'm seeing. He claims a two and a half hour interview was edited into one hour.
- [76:32]
Arian Foster
Yeah. And then the guy, Andrew from Channel 5 put all the clips out. He's like, we. We did edit things, but it was to make you look better. And here is the unedited version. And he showed like all the examples of stuff that they cut out when they were asking him to restate things more clearly because he was stuttering or he couldn't figure out the words to say. And yeah, it was, it was not a. Not a good look.
- [76:54]
Mackenzie
Breaking news. Cody Bellinger to the Yankees.
- [76:58]
Arian Foster
Okay. All right. So were you doing East Coast, West Coast? Just loading up the Yankees? Loading up the. The Dodgers?
- [77:06]
Big Cat
That's not loading up anything.
- [77:08]
Arian Foster
You're not a Bellinger believer.
- [77:10]
Big T
No.
- [77:12]
Arian Foster
It'S a decent signing, right?
- [77:14]
Big Cat
That's fine.
- [77:15]
Arian Foster
He's a fine player.
- [77:17]
Big Cat
It'd be a hell of a signing in 2018.
- [77:20]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Who else is still out there?
- [77:28]
Big Cat
Don't. Just hang on, okay.
- [77:31]
Mackenzie
The White Sox just got someone.
- [77:33]
Arian Foster
Oh, they traded Luis Roberts.
- [77:34]
Big Cat
Yeah. That was a trade, though.
- [77:35]
Arian Foster
The.
- [77:36]
Big Cat
The thing with baseball is it's so hard to remember who's even left because the off season drags on so long and nobody ever signs until February.
- [77:43]
Big T
I typed in, you know, Brewers News, Current News to see if you're making any moves.
- [77:48]
Big Cat
They're trying to trade Freddy.
- [77:50]
Big T
Yeah. What the. Man. I guess I'm just. Have to get used to this as a baseball fan. Right? Just everybody's just as a fan of.
- [78:00]
Big Cat
A small market team. Yeah, probably.
- [78:03]
Big T
It's all good, man. Hey, appreciate the run if that's the case. I think it's a bad move, but.
- [78:09]
Mackenzie
Sorry though. Nick Shirley is. Can't read.
- [78:11]
Arian Foster
Well, I. I also want to say I'm happy for Luis Robert, who doesn't have to go through an entire season of people just talking about where he's gonna be traded to anymore. It's good for him, but.
- [78:22]
Big T
Yeah.
- [78:23]
Big Cat
Acuna's brother back.
- [78:25]
Arian Foster
Oh, nice. You happy about that?
- [78:27]
Big Cat
I don't. I don't particularly care.
- [78:29]
Arian Foster
Okay.
- [78:31]
Big Cat
I guess I'm glad he's not on the men's.
- [78:32]
Arian Foster
Yeah, that'd be tough. They got him and a pitcher, right?
- [78:37]
Big Cat
Yeah. I forget the guy's name.
- [78:39]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Such as being a fan of. Of a team that does not spend money. So as tough as it is for owners like the Dodgers to buy up all the good players, you've got a lot of teams out there that just refuse to. To pay their own homegrown talent. That's baseball. Yeah. Nick Shirley does not appear to be smart. I regret to inform America.
- [79:01]
Big Cat
Is he a Mormon I'm seeing?
- [79:04]
Arian Foster
I think he might be. I think he might be. Yes. I think that he. Or at least he's from Utah. It was just very clear from. From that video that he was trying to. To chase outrage clicks in any way that he could. But I do think that there's certainly, like, a fraud issue that is still being addressed in Minnesota, but we're kind of. It. It should have raised a lot of red flags to people that he was pinning it all on a minority group being like, all the Somalians are here to defraud. You said something like 95% of Somalians are engaged in fraud, which is just not anywhere close to being an accurate stat when he was talking about that one, the one case which was a big case, and like, 90% of the people that were indicted for it or found guilty in the federal investigation were Somalian. It was led by an American, but it was a lot of Somalians that were involved in that one. But to take that and to say 90% of Somalians are here to defraud the government. And isn't everybody from Somalia just fraudster and pirate. That should raise everybody's red flags. When he says stuff like that.
- [80:21]
Big T
You're just woke.
- [80:22]
Arian Foster
I mean, it's the. It's the exact same playbook that America did with the Italians.
- [80:29]
Big T
Yeah, you're woke.
- [80:30]
Arian Foster
It's. It's the same. If you're an Italian person and you were in America in the early 1900s, your lost brother, they ran this same playbook on the Italian spade, a spade.
- [80:41]
Big T
You know, that's what I like. Yeah. Yeah.
- [80:42]
Arian Foster
Okay.
- [80:43]
Big T
You're just woke.
- [80:44]
Big Cat
You just.
- [80:47]
Big T
You got caught by the woke mom virus, maybe, and there's no coming back.
- [80:51]
Arian Foster
Brother did it with the Irish, too. Same playbook.
- [80:56]
Big T
P. Lefty. Yep, just a wokey wokster.
- [81:01]
Arian Foster
What do you Think the solution to that is, by the way, if. Is it just. No, no. Well, yeah, that. But is it also just, like, stop giving federal aid child care?
- [81:12]
Big T
That you dig. You dig yourself in that Bible. That's how you get out of the woke mind virus.
- [81:17]
Arian Foster
Because if. If.
- [81:18]
Big Cat
Man, I've got one right here for you.
- [81:19]
Arian Foster
Appreciate that, Big T. I'll give it a look.
- [81:21]
Big T
Open that, Open that. Hey. Oh, just do a random. Random verse.
- [81:24]
Big Cat
Random verse.
- [81:26]
Big T
Just flip through the.
- [81:27]
Big Cat
Let's try to get in, like, psalm. That should give us a good one.
- [81:30]
Big T
That's not random.
- [81:31]
Big Cat
All right, fine. I'm close.
- [81:32]
Big T
Can I.
- [81:32]
Arian Foster
Because I have no idea which books are which.
- [81:34]
Big Cat
Okay.
- [81:34]
Arian Foster
This will be a truly.
- [81:35]
Big T
Hey, if the Lord. If the Lord wants to cure PFT from his woke mom virus, let the right verse land underneath his thumb or index finger.
- [81:44]
Big Cat
Don't do it.
- [81:44]
Big T
Your thumb. That'd be kind of weird, right? Index. I got.
- [81:48]
Arian Foster
I got a piece of metal here. It's like I'm cutting a deck of cards. We're just going to go right in there.
- [81:53]
Big Cat
I'm going to guess that is the book of.
- [81:57]
Big T
Oh, bet on it.
- [81:59]
Big Cat
Isaiah.
- [82:00]
Arian Foster
I'm pretty sure that's the most sacrilegious thing.
- [82:02]
Big Cat
Yeah, let's not. I'm guess. I'm guessing in fun that that's the book of Isaiah.
- [82:06]
Arian Foster
In fun. Okay, I will accept your fun guess.
- [82:09]
Big T
Let's see.
- [82:09]
Big Cat
What. Open it up.
- [82:11]
Big T
Okay, I say Deuteronomy.
- [82:13]
Big Cat
I lost it.
- [82:14]
Arian Foster
I lost it. I also. I was trying to be respectful, not bend any of the pages. Okay, this is Kings, the book of Kings.
- [82:23]
Big Cat
Which one?
- [82:24]
Arian Foster
Right, one.
- [82:25]
Big Cat
Okay. There are multiple of them.
- [82:28]
Arian Foster
Okay. Book of kings, 1827. Now, there's a small number named 36 that I will read from on this page.
- [82:35]
Big Cat
What's the big number?
- [82:39]
Arian Foster
One Kings. First Kings, 18:27.
- [82:42]
Big Cat
Okay, so you're reading chapter 18, verse 36.
- [82:47]
Arian Foster
Okay. And at the time of the offering of the ablation, Elijah the prophet came near and said, o Lord, God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel. And let it be known that this day that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant, and that I have done all these things at your word. Answer me, O Lord. Answer me that this people may know that you, O Lord, are God and that you have turned their hearts back.
- [83:10]
Big Cat
Amen.
- [83:11]
Big T
Come to him.
- [83:12]
Arian Foster
Then the fire of the Lord fell and consumed the burnt offering and the wood and the stones and the dust and licked up the water that was in the trench. And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces and Said the Lord, he is God. The Lord. He is God. And Elijah said to them, seize the prophets of ball. Let not one of them escape. And they seized them. And Elijah brought them down to the Brook Kashan and slaughtered them there. Amen. All right, who did he slaughter them?
- [83:41]
Big T
Who? Who? Who did Elijah slaughter, man?
- [83:44]
Big Cat
It sounded like non believers, some people who were worshiping idols.
- [83:48]
Arian Foster
Non believers. And then everything was good after that.
- [83:53]
Big T
In 1 Kings 18:36 through 40, Elijah ordered the people of Israel to seize and slaughter the 450 prophets of Baal at the brook Kishan. After God answered Elijah's prayer with fire, proving him the true God ending the drought, and validated Elijah's talents to the ball. Prophets on Mount Carmel. All right. Shout out to. Shout out to that man. Come to the Lord. Slaughter people again.
- [84:25]
Big Cat
Let's find a good. Let's find a good psalm. Feel like we were. We were lacking some context there.
- [84:34]
Big T
Eli challenged the prophets of B to a contest on Mount Carmel. Whichever God answered by fire would be acknowledged as the true God. Baal's silence. The prophets of BAAL called on their God all day, even cutting themselves, but no fire came. Elijah's prayer prayed to the Lord, asking him to show Israel that he is God. And fire fell, consuming his offering. The people captured the prophets and Elijah led them down the brook Kishon and executed them there. So they were. They made a bet. That's kind of serendipitous. So they made a bet. Whoever's the real, you know, I'm saying, let fire fall. So they both prayed to their gods, my God is the real God. Fire fell. Bam. 40 people.
- [85:18]
Big Cat
That's pretty sick.
- [85:20]
Big T
Pretty wild. Yeah, it's pretty wild.
- [85:24]
Arian Foster
All right. What else we got in the news today?
- [85:27]
Big Cat
The only other thing was, have you seen the story about Charles Bettioco? Are you familiar with his work?
- [85:32]
Arian Foster
I saw. I saw some news about it this morning. I did not look into it.
- [85:36]
Big Cat
So this guy played two seasons of basketball at Alabama three years ago. He has been in the NBA G League for three seasons now. And he just decided the other day that since he's not good enough to go to the NBA, he'd like to go back to Alabama. Despite having signed three NBA contracts and a court in Tuscaloosa County, Alabama has granted his temporary restraining order against the ncaa, declaring that he can play for Alabama. Now here's the interesting part. Pft. His next hearing is January 27th, which I guess would be next Tuesday. He is immediately eligible. As of right now, he can play this Saturday against Tennessee in a very important game for both teams. And then he might be ruled ineligible next Tuesday. He might get to play in one game against Tennessee.
- [86:24]
Arian Foster
There's just no rules. Just college basketball has no rules.
- [86:27]
Big Cat
No.
- [86:28]
Arian Foster
I feel like college football would never let this happen.
- [86:31]
Big Cat
I don't know what's preventing it from happening. I saw somebody say this morning, you know, Jake Fromm has some eligibility left. He's. He's doing, I think, realty in Athens or something. He should just go try to go play.
- [86:46]
Arian Foster
This is.
- [86:47]
Big Cat
It's.
- [86:48]
Arian Foster
It's insane. Like, you're going to have guys that leave your team, and you're going to think for the next couple years, like, you're going to root against them to succeed in the NBA, because you'll be like, I. Maybe they'll come back.
- [86:56]
Big Cat
I'd like us to get Kennedy Chandler and Jordan Bone and whoever else back before Saturday. Let's just. Let's. Let's play the game from four years ago.
- [87:05]
Big T
I've had a dream about this specifically specific instance. I had a dream that I was who I was, and then I went back to Tennessee for a season, and it was amazing.
- [87:16]
Big Cat
At your current age.
- [87:19]
Big T
Yeah.
- [87:19]
Big Cat
McCurdy, do you think you could. If. If. If you played the 2026 season at Tennessee? What. What kind of numbers do you think you could put up?
- [87:29]
Big T
I'm not making it past training camp, brother.
- [87:32]
Big Cat
You don't think you could go out there?
- [87:35]
Arian Foster
No.
- [87:36]
Big Cat
As a. As a. As a third running back, I'm giving you 64 carries next season, brother.
- [87:43]
Big T
No, brother. No, I don't. Listen, bro, I don't have a lot of tread left on these tires.
- [87:50]
Big Cat
You know, it's not the NFL, Though.
- [87:53]
Big T
I. I do think the talent level is lower than what I've, you know, seen for years. But it's still, bro, I'll be. I'll be looking at games like, I'm so glad I don't play that anymore. That hurt. You have to. And plus, the mindset is different.
- [88:05]
Big Cat
No, you said you had a dream about it. How'd the dream go?
- [88:09]
Big T
I was bald.
- [88:10]
Big Cat
Exactly.
- [88:11]
Big T
In my mind, I'm the greatest ever at everything. That's how I feel. But, no, there's no. There's no way. There's no way I'm making it because that. You like training camp, dog, is such a mental grind. I don't have it. Like, there's. There'll be a time in the first practice where I'll be like, why am I here? What am I doing?
- [88:26]
Big Cat
Would you need that ramp up to play. If I said one game, do you think you could go play one game? Or you would need a month of like, real training camp to get ready for.
- [88:35]
Big T
Oh, no, no. I would need way more than a month to get my body in shape. Like, no. Hell no, brother.
- [88:41]
Big Cat
Yeah, but I just meant, like, hitting and that kind of thing.
- [88:44]
Big T
I think that part's mental. I could. I could get hit right now. Be all right. That's. That's a. That's a mental thing that I've pushed past since I was a child. Like, I tell my kids I was coaching them my. My little league team. Like, it's a mentality. You go and get hit or you going. You're gonna hit somebody, they both gonna hurt. But hitting somebody hurts less than getting hit. So make a decision. And I would just make the decision.
- [89:09]
Big Cat
Love that.
- [89:10]
Big T
Yeah. But not them boys. Them boys lifting weights every day and I'm out here shooting 79. You know it's true.
- [89:17]
Arian Foster
Good point, big T. So if you were to say, what would your position on the Charles Bediaco case be if.
- [89:24]
Big Cat
You have signed an NBA contract? Yeah. I can't believe you have to say this. You can't play in college basketball. Basketball anymore, unfortunately.
- [89:31]
Arian Foster
What do you think Tennessee would do.
- [89:32]
Big Cat
In this situation as the opponent or like trying to get players back if.
- [89:38]
Arian Foster
You had a player that was in this.
- [89:39]
Big Cat
I mean, we do. We could go. I mean, we have plenty of guys in the G league right now, but.
- [89:43]
Arian Foster
Tennessee, I think it's.
- [89:45]
Big T
How about this? If you step foot on a professional court, like in a. In a real game, because, like, if you sign a contract, don't pan out, blah, blah, you go back. I'm okay with that.
- [89:54]
Big Cat
No, no, I think it needs it. Once you back in my day, and you'll remember this as, brother, you are.
- [90:00]
Big T
In the middle of your day.
- [90:01]
Big Cat
As soon as you said, I am going to the NFL or NBA draft, I am declaring. That was it. You were gone.
- [90:09]
Big T
I don't like that. The reason why I don't like that is because it makes a finite decision, a huge decision from kids. Like, I believe they should have some wiggle room because they could get bad advice. What if they change their mind in a couple weeks? Like, that's.
- [90:26]
Big Cat
To me, that's the way it goes for that. And by the way, we have far fewer guys now. I think I saw the other day there's only 40 something early entries into the NFL draft. And a few years ago was 150 or something. Like, guys are staying in college because they're making money and they realize that's a better decision. If you choose that you're a professional now, best of luck to you. You're a professional.
- [90:50]
Arian Foster
I agree with Arian that you can get bad advice. That's not your fault.
- [90:56]
Big Cat
They're adults.
- [90:57]
Arian Foster
They are adults.
- [90:58]
Big Cat
And these are, and these are multi.
- [91:00]
Arian Foster
But also why, why would you want them to get.
- [91:04]
Big Cat
I don't, I don't want them to. But if you're making $2 million a year playing in college and you've hired an agent and whatever, and you choose, or, or instead of hiring an agent, you choose my uncle's my agent and he gives you some shitty advice. I hate that for you.
- [91:18]
Big T
But see that, that seed, and this is why I feel like if you went through it, you'd have a little bit more empathy for what they going through. Can you find empathy for a millionaire, Big T?
- [91:28]
Big Cat
Sure.
- [91:28]
Big T
Never. All right, so imagine you come from nothing or come from good circumstances or okay circumstances, and all of a sudden you have millions of dollars that you don't know how to manage. There's no way an 18 to 20 year old kid knows how to manage that kind of money. You don't know what you're doing. You don't know the ramifications of your decisions. You don't know anything about financial literacy. So you're thrust into this position and now you're the breadwinner. Now you feel all these pulls from people you grew up with, your family, yada yada. And now you're like, okay, do I make this decision? Do I make the decision? You, you around people that you think you trust, right? And then all of a sudden like you're the, you're the CEO of your own business, which is yourself, which is a multi million dollar business and you don't have any expertise on how to run this business. That is breeding ground, totally fair, predatory. So what I'm saying is I would be okay with giving them some leniency on some bad decisions that they made or bad advice that they got because it's, it's, it's out there and it's pred. It is such a predatory shark infested water that I saw with my own eyes. I see like these financial advisors, these agents, these runners don't even have runners anymore, but they just leeches.
- [92:35]
Big Cat
Oh, for sure. I would say the difference in what you certainly experienced and now is they were, you weren't supposed to be making money in college. Then they get these guys earlier, these guys in some, in some positions are making More money than they would in the NFL.
- [92:50]
Big T
And that, that to me that's worse. They got it worse than what we had. At least they did it under the guise of protecting us, right? Which is, but at least they had guidelines and, and they had regulations that did protect us from that. Like I, I, like I was very lucky in the sense that I got, took care of my money and I had met the right people that taught me about this shit because I didn't go to school for that shit. People go to school for that shit. I couldn't imagine giving 18 year old, 19 year old Aaron a million dollars and what he did with it. He was there. He was not, he was not a 27 year old man, 26 year old man.
- [93:23]
Big Cat
Like, but you and I both agree that like, I mean the line has to be somewhere. Clearly you have to have a rule. So is it.
- [93:30]
Big T
I think, I think the, I think the rule is when you step foot and you get game experience in a professional where you get paid to be there, when you step foot on that court, then you are now entering the professional arena. Until then, I mean you haven't really played.
- [93:46]
Big Cat
All right, so what about this? Let's say you're the number 11 overall pick in the NBA Draft by the Boston Celtics. I don't know, a good team. And you get to training camp and you realize like, man, like I don't think I'm going to get minutes this season. My position's blocked. They got two guys ahead of me. Like I really, I'm probably going to have to go to the G league, whatever. Can that guy go? That's great for the sport, huh?
- [94:13]
Big T
I think that's great for the sport. I'll tell you what, that guy can.
- [94:15]
Big Cat
Go back to college.
- [94:16]
Big T
I'll tell you why that's good for the sport. Kobe Bryant before he passed was adamant about this and I talked like I said, I golf with Clyde Drexler all the time, right? And it's a lot, it's the reason why like a lot of older cats don't really like watching basketball. And it's the reason why I don't like watching basketball. Not saying that I'm a basketball, I don't know it all but like them listening to them echoes what I felt about the game. I feel like fundamentally the rules of basketball have changed in a way where a lot of fundamentals are out the window and so players aren't getting a lot of the fundamental coaching so that they, so that they understand the game of basketball in a way that the Cats did when I grew up watching playing. I feel like the, I feel like the talent level is probably better, but I feel like the, the, like the, the quality of basketball has dropped. And like I said, this isn't just my opinion. I've got this confirmed with multiple NBA cats that I've talked with. And then Kobe said this before, he thought he was like, he was like Cats are not developing in college anymore. They're just not developing anymore. Like you, you don't develop. So you got a bunch of guys who are in the NBA who don't have a lot of the fundamentals in order to play at a high level. And I, and I agree with that. So if a cat goes to the G league, he's not getting no burn. Come back to college and get coached up. I think that's better for the game. Do I think a 24, 25 year old should be playing against 18 year olds? No, I think there's an age, I think they should do an age limit and I think they should do a. If you, if you step foot in a game because if you actually getting game experience and then trying to come back. Nah.
- [95:49]
Big Cat
What's the age limit?
- [95:52]
Big T
23. It's probably good.
- [95:53]
Big Cat
So the day you turn 24, you're out.
- [95:55]
Big T
No matter what out or what happens, you're ineligible. Because the difference between the body of an 18 year old kid and a 23 year old young man, they're different. They're very different. I've always thought though, so that BYU loophole that had been going on in college since I was a kid, I hated that shit.
- [96:13]
Big Cat
They got 30 year olds.
- [96:15]
Big T
That's what I'm saying. Imagine, imagine an actually great athlete that went on. They, what is it? They go on a pilgrimage or whatever they do mission who? Nice, right? And then comes back to play with a bunch of 18 year olds. Why are you crazy?
- [96:29]
Big Cat
Well, they have a five star quarterback committed in this class who I think is doing that.
- [96:34]
Mackenzie
He just left on his mission and they actually gave him an exemption. So instead of two years, he's only going for one year.
- [96:41]
Big Cat
Oh really?
- [96:41]
Big T
Yeah, I'm talking about like the real athletes of the team like a linebacker, a D lineman, something that where like that physical maturation of the body can actually hurt somebody. There's a reason why the Supreme Court a while ago, remember Maurice Corette tried to declare for the draft as a true after a true freshman and Supreme Court said nah, like there's a difference. I agree with that. There is a difference. I believe that you know it's all different. Like, I believe after Adrian Peterson's true freshman year, he could have gone to the NFL and dominated. I believe that he was different. There are athletes that are outliers like that, but the majority need that time for that body to develop in order to bang with grown men like that.
- [97:25]
Big Cat
I agree. I just think you can't have guys playing shitty in the G League and then deciding, you know, I could just go back to Alabama right now and probably kill it.
- [97:35]
Big T
Yeah, I think G League. No, I think that's stepping onto a professional court.
- [97:39]
Big Cat
I agree. He played. I saw. He played in a game in Birmingham last week and had six points or whatever. And then this weekend, he's going to play at a game in Tuscaloosa in college.
- [97:50]
Arian Foster
That is crazy. There's just no rules anymore.
- [97:53]
Big T
Ego could not. My ego couldn't even do that. Like, once I attempt, I'm going back. That's backwards, bro.
- [97:58]
Arian Foster
I can't do that.
- [97:59]
Big Cat
Also, like, are they going to pay him? Like, you've had your whole roster constructed. The season is halfway over. More than halfway.
- [98:09]
Arian Foster
I don't know.
- [98:11]
Big Cat
I'm just telling you. This guy's going to play one game on Saturday, he's going to have 27 and 12, and then on Tuesday, they're going to say he's ineligible. You just watch.
- [98:19]
Arian Foster
And then he's going to go back to playing in the G League.
- [98:22]
Big Cat
Yeah. And then he's going to. He's going to be demoted to a professional. Yeah, it's. It's. I'll tell you who's going to put a stop to it is the NBA. Because if. Because all the guys who have done it so far kind of suck.
- [98:34]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [98:34]
Big Cat
But there's going to be somebody, like I said, who's the 11th pick and is on the bench and gets put in the G League and then decides to go back to college. Is Dalton Connect in the G League right now? Let's just get. Let's get him back.
- [98:48]
Arian Foster
Can you.
- [98:49]
Big Cat
I don't know. It seems you can do whatever you want.
- [98:51]
Arian Foster
Would you want him back?
- [98:52]
Big Cat
Hell, yeah. The best basketball player we've had in 20 years.
- [98:57]
Arian Foster
But then you lose the moral high ground where you're like those cheating baskets. I don't want Alabama.
- [99:01]
Big Cat
I don't. I don't. I never said I wanted the moral high ground. I want to win. We're underachieving this year. Get me Chaz Lanier and Dalton Connect Back.
- [99:07]
Arian Foster
If they. If. If Tennessee won the national championship with Dalton Connect starting.
- [99:11]
Big Cat
Hell yeah. Let's Sign me up.
- [99:14]
Arian Foster
You'd be fine with that.
- [99:15]
Big Cat
That would be incredible.
- [99:16]
Mackenzie
You said last week you're fine with your football team's cheating. If it got you a national championship, why not?
- [99:22]
Big T
You ain't cheating. You ain't trying.
- [99:25]
Big Cat
They're probably cheating now.
- [99:28]
Big T
Everybody's cheating.
- [99:30]
Big Cat
Yeah. It's to what degree?
- [99:32]
Arian Foster
Yeah, MacKenzie, I got one question for you before we get into US Expansion. Imperialism, colonialism. About the Buffalo Bills. We had an owner press conference this morning.
- [99:45]
Mackenzie
Oh, yeah.
- [99:45]
Arian Foster
Mr. Pegula addressed the media. I love it when owners talk to the media because they have, they've got zero media training. They have no oversight or anything. They're usually incredibly underprepared for any questions are being asked. And they have no filter either because they're their own bosses. What do you think Keon Coleman was thinking during this press conference? Because it seemed like Mr. Pula went out of his way, I guess to his credit. And he was having his, his general manager's back saying that, that Brandon Bean did not want Keon Coleman. That that was a pick that was kind of forced upon him by the coaching staff. And it felt like it was just. It's a tough day to be Keon Coleman when the guy that signs your checks is throwing you directly under the bus.
- [100:39]
Mackenzie
Yeah. It was like so very obvious that they, like they were just trying to pass blame onto anybody else that they drafted him.
- [100:49]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [100:50]
Mackenzie
So, yeah, that's a little demoralizing, I'd say for him. Not that he's had the, the best track record as of recent. So.
- [101:00]
Arian Foster
Right. There's some stuff going on.
- [101:02]
Mackenzie
Guess. But he's not a bad player necessarily.
- [101:06]
Arian Foster
He just doesn't always play. Correct. It's like he's, he's been a healthy scratch.
- [101:09]
Mackenzie
He decides when he wants to play.
- [101:11]
Arian Foster
And that's why I'm saying there's got to be something going on behind the scenes that they're, they're keeping secret of. Why the second he was a second round pick, Right.
- [101:19]
Mackenzie
Yes, I think so.
- [101:21]
Arian Foster
Why he is not playing. And there's, there's. Yeah, it was things going on that we don't know about, but it seemed like the point of this press conference is mostly to be like, hey, don't be mad at Brandon being for this.
- [101:33]
Mackenzie
Right. Even though there is a video of him talking about wanting to draft him. Yeah, that's surfacing. So.
- [101:40]
Arian Foster
But he was just being a. He was just being a good co worker.
- [101:43]
Mackenzie
Right. Of course.
- [101:44]
Big T
Who did he suggest that he wanted? Or did he suggest who he wanted?
- [101:48]
Mackenzie
I don't know if he says so.
- [101:51]
Big T
So he just saying they fucked up. I'm just saying I don't really have a. An opinion but they definitely.
- [101:57]
Big Cat
Well, to be fair, he didn't say it. The owner said it.
- [102:00]
Mackenzie
The owner said it like trying to defend him essentially.
- [102:06]
Arian Foster
The way things tend to go. It would not surprise me if Keon Coleman was like a chief in two years winning a Super Bowl.
- [102:14]
Mackenzie
Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me either. That would be like the most Buffalo Bills thing of all time.
- [102:19]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [102:21]
Mackenzie
But I. I do feel bad for him.
- [102:23]
Arian Foster
Yeah. It's tough when your boss is saying this.
- [102:25]
Mackenzie
Yeah. To publicly.
- [102:27]
Arian Foster
Your boss's boss. Yeah.
- [102:28]
Big T
Yeah.
- [102:29]
Mackenzie
They're both agreeing on it.
- [102:30]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Nobody wanted you, bro.
- [102:32]
Mackenzie
Yeah, I.
- [102:34]
Arian Foster
You got to. You got to ask for a trade, right?
- [102:37]
Mackenzie
I mean. Yeah. I don't know.
- [102:40]
Arian Foster
I don't think that relationship is repairable.
- [102:42]
Big T
You don't got to pedigree. You don't got to pedigree. As for trade.
- [102:45]
Arian Foster
Yeah. But the. I think they would be happier without you too. If they're going to these links to. To blame every like the woes of your entire franchise on missing one second round pick. That does not seem like a good workplace for anybody.
- [103:00]
Big T
True. But I don't think you got a better. Maybe your agent can request but you can't be like making no public statements and stuff. You got to put your head down to work.
- [103:07]
Mackenzie
Yeah, I hope he does. Maybe he'll show up to some meetings now.
- [103:12]
Big Cat
Maybe.
- [103:12]
Arian Foster
Is that what it was?
- [103:13]
Mackenzie
Yeah, that's what they said. It was like he missed but they healthy scratched him I think two games in a row. So I don't. I mean Arian might know like if you miss meetings, like does that lead to a healthy scratch, like not playing? I don't know. I've never.
- [103:30]
Big T
Here's a fun NFL story time.
- [103:33]
Mackenzie
Okay.
- [103:35]
Big T
In 2010, I'm enjoying early season success. I'm leading the league in rushing. I'm like 500 some yards, having a hell of a season. I go out on a Wednesday night and I get lit. Stupid lit. At the time I was living in an apartment complex. We used to have meetings at 8am I get a knock at the door, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Over. At the time, my brother was living with me and my brother come over was like, hey, yo, there's some Texas personnel dude here. And it was my man Sean. He's like, hey, what the fuck are you doing? We got meetings, man.
- [104:15]
Arian Foster
Get the up.
- [104:16]
Big T
I was like, oh shit. So it's like 8:30, dog I hustled to the stadium. Still kind of faded a little bit. Go through or whatever. Coach said, your ass sitting the whole first half. And we playing the Raiders. And I was like, fuck. I grew up loving the Raiders, right? So this is my first time playing the Raiders. I was like, I wanted to get off. It's cool. We whole first half, I'm pro. First half I'm sitting and nobody knows why because, like, I'm like the best running back in the league at the time, you know, so it's like the rumblings and like people have stands. Why aren't you playing like that type? And then you let you. You later listen to the. The rhetoricals. Like, why didn't he play? Whatever. Anyway, getting to the. The second half, I think at the late part of the first half, I got a carry. And then at the beginning of the second half, I get like one of my first carry. Go 75 yards.
- [105:07]
Big Cat
That was Gus Johnson.
- [105:08]
Mackenzie
Oh, yeah. The call, right?
- [105:09]
Big Cat
Yeah, we've watched that.
- [105:10]
Big T
Yeah. Yeah. Coach put me in a game. Oh, you heard that? Well, for people who didn't.
- [105:14]
Big Cat
I don't remember if you told those story, but we've watched the call.
- [105:17]
Big T
Yeah, that was the. That was the story behind why I sat the whole half now was now. Should I have been sat the half? I don't think so. You know, co made a call. I think Cub. I think Coop made the best call he knew. Like, so in his mind, oh, here's a young player who enjoying early success. I don't want to get him off track. I'm a punishing. Were there other cats on the squad who have been late to meeting as well? Sure. You know, but I think coach, you know, he wanted to make a statement and he did. And, you know, sometimes people need that. I don't think I needed that, but I think sometimes people need to be woke up like that.
- [105:55]
Big Cat
Can I ask a question? Yeah. Y' all were off on Tuesdays, right?
- [106:01]
Big T
Yes.
- [106:01]
Big Cat
So why not Monday night, go get lit up?
- [106:05]
Big T
Well, I'm 24 years old.
- [106:07]
Big Cat
I know. I'm just. It just, you know, I'm 24.
- [106:10]
Big T
Big T. I'm 25, 24 years old. I. I got some money in my pocket. I'm young.
- [106:16]
Big Cat
That's. That's fair. I just.
- [106:18]
Big T
I'm gonna hit. I'm hit the streets now. As a grown man now, would I have. No. Absolutely not. I would have absolutely, 1000%, absolutely capitalized on masseuse's cryo chambers. I'd have done the most to get no Poison in my body. I'd have done all that, you know, as a grown man. But, like, as a kid, coming from where I'm coming from, I'm gonna enjoy this shit, right? So I enjoy this shit. It was. Yeah, it was a good. Wasn't a good move. Yeah.
- [106:41]
Big Cat
So they sent somebody to your house.
- [106:44]
Big T
Yeah. Every NFL team has, like, a. Like a watcher, like the. The Hammer. So we got, like, a dude that's. So, like, if. If cat. There are cats who they didn't trust to not go out. I wasn't one of those guys, but they didn't have. They had cats they didn't trust to not go out. So they had. They. They sent dudes on staff to clubs, like, on a Thursday and a Friday. And if you got caught in that club, like, there was. There was fines, there was rep. You know, a lot of reprimanding. So they were like. They were. They were narcs. So there were certain things you could and couldn't do throughout the city. And it's a little overreach, but it's like. Like I said, I guess some cats probably needed that stuff.
- [107:27]
Arian Foster
Now, did. Did QBAC make any statements to the media that week about, like, Aryans on punishment afterward?
- [107:35]
Big T
It was like, why didn't he play in the first half? And I was like, no, you know, team violation, whatever. You know, he was late for a meeting, and if somebody had the goal. Somebody had the goal to ask, has anybody else been late for a meeting? He kind of didn't really answer the question because. Because I was like. Because I was like. I was like. I was like, dog, like, yeah, I missed. Yeah, I was late for a meeting. Like, that happens. Like, I'm a human. Like, I'm young. Yeah, okay. I learned my lesson. I'm fine. You don't even sit me for a half, bro. Like, what are we doing?
- [108:02]
Arian Foster
Was it the first.
- [108:04]
Big T
I believe, huh?
- [108:05]
Arian Foster
Was it the first carry where you went 78 yards or whatever?
- [108:08]
Big T
He's like. The first or second. It was. It was. It was early. Yeah, but I was just. I was of the mindset of, like, I think that game because I had. I think I had, like, 130 yards that game, all in the second half.
- [108:20]
Big Cat
131 on 16 carries.
- [108:22]
Big T
Yeah.
- [108:23]
Big Cat
Like, plus 56 receiving yards in a touchdown.
- [108:26]
Big T
No, I was. I was.
- [108:27]
Arian Foster
That was a passing yards for the quarterback.
- [108:29]
Big Cat
Yeah. Yeah. You don't deserve those.
- [108:31]
Big T
No, no, no, no, no, no. The quarterback don't deserve those, my brother.
- [108:35]
Big Cat
Well, we're just using the reverse of.
- [108:37]
Big T
Your Argument, but the logic don't follow. I have yet to hear a good argument.
- [108:42]
Big Cat
He delivered the ball.
- [108:43]
Arian Foster
Oh, I. We. We interviewed Adam Thielen on part of my take yesterday, and I asked him about your. Your idea, Arian. I said, arian thinks that receivers should get more credit for all the yards receiving, not on the quarterback. And he said, well, actually, if you want to, like, take it back one step further, the offensive coordinator should get those yards for putting you in position to make the catch and to get the yards after catch.
- [109:09]
Big Cat
Why?
- [109:09]
Big T
What's his logic?
- [109:11]
Arian Foster
He drew up the play. He schemed you open.
- [109:15]
Big T
He did not physically do it. See, this is what I'm saying, right? He's, you know, he's in the machine. That's all right.
- [109:20]
Arian Foster
No, he's out of the machine. He's retired. He's actually doing. He's taking the Arian Foster route where he's.
- [109:24]
Big T
He's focused on the machine, brother. He's still in the machine.
- [109:27]
Arian Foster
I'm gonna get you two together on a golf course. I think you'd have a good time together. And you'll see the light. You'll see what he's saying he's made.
- [109:34]
Big T
There's no argument all that. It was a. It was a. It was a. A snarky rebuttal. It's. There's no logical argument. I still haven't heard one. Matter of fact, call the Show. Call the Show. If you have a logical argument as to why quarterbacks should get yards after catch. After catch. Give me a logical response. I have not heard one yet. All I hear is a whole bunch of feelings. Well, you know, it's all feelings. Give me a logical response as to why a quarterback should get yak. My. My argument is contingent within the current NFL rule book. Nothing changes except how we calculate who's responsible for what yards game. You're trying to reinvent rules. I'm not saying change rules. I'm saying just think differently about how you think about quarterbacks being responsible for all the yarders that they're attributed to, because they're not. It's not just me, brother. A lot of people feel this in the league, except for Adam Thielen, but a lot of cats under the Barstow Post, you know, agree with me. I mean, I didn't, like, comb through the comments, but you can see, like, you mentioned Matt Forte. He agrees.
- [110:47]
Arian Foster
It's because.
- [110:48]
Big T
It's because.
- [110:48]
Arian Foster
This is why Matt Forte. You know what? I'm sensing a trend. Matt Forte and Arian Foster, two dynamic running backs that Had a lot of success making something out of nothing on swing passes. Matt Forte was a beast catching the ball out of the backfield.
- [111:04]
Big T
Absolutely one of the goats.
- [111:05]
Arian Foster
You know what, it sounds selfish. It sounds like you, ultimately you have a problem with sharing.
- [111:13]
Big Cat
Ironic.
- [111:14]
Big T
I have a problem. I have a problem with quarterbacks in general.
- [111:19]
Arian Foster
You don't like to share.
- [111:20]
Big T
This is, this is. No. Quarterbacks are so taken care of. Yes, I understand why, but I also understand they're the most fucking brittle, the least athletic player on the offensive side of the board.
- [111:31]
Arian Foster
Well, they're also the only position that, that can't play if you're, if you have a sore shoulder.
- [111:37]
Big T
But this is, this is, this is my point. They protect them to such a degree that if they protected other players, everybody's career would be longer. Everybody's, but they protect them specifically more so than they protect other players. They care about protecting quarterbacks more so than they do. They care about marketing quarterbacks more so than they do other players. This is, this is. And like I know the counter argument is, of course it's a quarterback. I understand, I'm not stupid. I understand why. I'm just saying if there was a forward thinking coach that said I'm going to protect all my players like this, I understand you have to bang to a certain extent, but again, they don't play the same sport we play, but you different.
- [112:16]
Arian Foster
How does it affect your happiness if a quarterback gets credit for the same yards that you also get credit for?
- [112:23]
Big Cat
0.
- [112:23]
Big T
None of this affects my happiness, brother. I'm not going to go to bed thinking about why Matt Sha got some of my passing yards. I don't care. I was just making an argument. Civil argument. You know what I mean?
- [112:34]
Arian Foster
He didn't get some of your passing yards. You guys, you guys got the same receiving yards and passing yards.
- [112:40]
Big T
That's what I'm saying.
- [112:41]
Arian Foster
You just want him to, you want him to have less stats.
- [112:45]
Rico Bosco
Yes.
- [112:46]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Okay.
- [112:47]
Big T
All right. Yeah, I want court. I want quarterbacks to have less stats. So when, so when you, when you see a 300 yard game, that means something. It's not, it's not, it's not a hitch that went for sale.
- [112:57]
Arian Foster
Everyone gets 300 yards now. It doesn't matter.
- [113:00]
Big T
I feel like it's less prevalent in today's NFL than it was five years ago.
- [113:03]
Arian Foster
Everyone, everyone has a 300 yard game. Nobody cares about 300 yards.
- [113:07]
Big T
Are, are quarterback pass passing stats down though?
- [113:09]
Big Cat
Yeah, because of the kickoffs. Like touchbacks go to the 35 now. So there's just Less yards to be had.
- [113:18]
Big T
Yeah, that. Okay. I could. I. I could look into the data, but that. Yeah, that could be. Sounds right.
- [113:25]
Arian Foster
Okay, we're going to get.
- [113:26]
Big Cat
I had a. I had a fun stat before all that, too.
- [113:28]
Arian Foster
Give me a fun set.
- [113:31]
Big Cat
Arian in 2010 was the third running back in NFL history to total more than 500 rushing yards and 100 receiving yards in the first four games of a season. Do you know the other two?
- [113:43]
Big T
I would say Marshall Falk, Adrian James.
- [113:45]
Big Cat
Emmett Smith and Billy Sims.
- [113:48]
Big T
Oh, yeah. I was a dog.
- [113:51]
Big Cat
Fam.
- [113:52]
Big T
I was a dog.
- [113:53]
Arian Foster
And then you. Then you missed a meeting.
- [113:57]
Big Cat
It. Actually.
- [113:57]
Big T
Then I went vegan. Then I stopped believing in God and now I shoot 79.
- [114:01]
Big Cat
The article said he missed one and was late for another. Were those the same day?
- [114:05]
Big T
Not true. Oh, misinformation.
- [114:07]
Big Cat
That's.
- [114:07]
Big T
What is this?
- [114:08]
Big Cat
That's what it says. Pro Football Talk profile. Actually, it was. John McLean of the Houston Chronicle reported Foster was benched early in Sunday's game against Oakland because he missed one meeting during the week and was late to another.
- [114:20]
Arian Foster
Wow, John.
- [114:21]
Big Cat
Legendary reporter John McClain.
- [114:23]
Big T
He was legendary. Me and him had our bouts on and off the. The field. I used to. We used to talk to each other.
- [114:33]
Big Cat
But, like, in a haha way or. You actually didn't like him?
- [114:36]
Big T
I actually didn't like him. I'm sure he thought I was poking fun at him and it was just fun. But I actually, I actually had a problem with all, like, all media cats like, that. Your job is to create clicks, right? Your job is to.
- [114:46]
Arian Foster
To.
- [114:47]
Big T
As a beat writer, your job is to create narratives throughout the team. You know, to sell to the fans, to keep the fan engaged. I understand that now, but back then, I think they're just divisive. I thought they were just divisive. I thought that they would do shit like that. Like, that's clearly not true. Right? Like, I was there. He probably heard it from somebody. He never confirmed it with me. You know what I'm saying? Or coob. So, like, shit like that used to bother me all the time. Like, so I used to. I used to. I had a little like, a very contentious relationship with the Houston media. Well, this media in general, Tennessee, all of it is. I. I hate tid, right? I've grown, but I used to hate them cats. Like, I didn't like beat writers.
- [115:29]
Arian Foster
Was there anyone in the media that you liked?
- [115:36]
Big T
Probably not too many of them, though.
- [115:39]
Big Cat
What YouTube reporters did you hate?
- [115:42]
Big T
Beat Report. I didn't like any of them. Take that back. I'M sure there was one or two that I fucked with. Like, right. I can't think of any names off the top, but like, I hated more than I liked because I just thought that it's just so easy to write a hit piece, you know what I mean? Like, and it always felt like I said I was in a different mind state then. It always felt personal. Like I felt like they was talking about, like talking shit about me, right. When I couldn't defend myself and the information was inaccurate or whatever the case may be. And that shit, I mean, honestly, that.
- [116:17]
Arian Foster
Kind of shit can change the narrative.
- [116:19]
Big T
Of like fan bases, opinions and legacy shit like that. Like at Tennessee, right. I got labeled as like a fumbler. And then that bled into my NFL draft prospect, right? And it was just all from like untimely fumbles, quote, unquote. And like all of that, crafting a narrative around a player can kind of change people's like, like C.J.
- [116:44]
Arian Foster
Shroud.
- [116:44]
Big T
That's why I told him, like, you got to get off all social media, don't read no press about you just because they're going to craft a narrative about you.
- [116:50]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [116:51]
Big T
And in order to beat that, like, you have to outwork where you were and you have to. And you have to leave all that or else going to get in your head because it's easy too. It's easy to like, want to try to defend yourself. And Cool gave me some of the best advice ever. He was like, he said, buddy, he said, you're never gonna win that battle against the media. They buy barrel by the, by the, by the dollar. Some like that ink by the barrel, whatever they got ink by the barrel. They go write article after article after article. And if you sitting there having a conversation with them, you're never gonna win that battle.
- [117:21]
Arian Foster
So were you in Coop's doghouse?
- [117:24]
Big T
I was in a nice dance between the penthouse and the dog house with cool consistent basis early on in my career. Well, I would say after my second Pro bowl, once you, once you establish yourself in the league, they leave you alone.
- [117:44]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Maybe the doghouse just becomes like a, A room in the penthouse that they have to go into for a little bit. Think about what you've done.
- [117:53]
Big T
Yeah, but I think it was because, you know, I, I matured. So like when I was younger. Yeah, yeah, I stepped out. I did, you know, Stupid. I said stupid, whatever case may be, but I think once they realize, yo, that's a professional, he handles his business, he's here on time, he. He wants to win and he's a. He's a killer. They'll leave you alone. They let you do your thing. I think that's. That's how I've always wanted to be treated. But hey, sometimes you need a little. Need a little check. I'm okay with that. I love. Cool. I love all autumn. Cats, man changed my life.
- [118:21]
Arian Foster
And it looks like maybe two of his sons are gonna get some head coaching opportunities soon.
- [118:26]
Big T
Yeah, under the. Under the Mike Shanahan umbrella. It's starting to spread.
- [118:30]
Arian Foster
Did you.
- [118:31]
Big Cat
There's a second one?
- [118:32]
Arian Foster
Yeah, yeah. Clint and then the one on. Is he on the Niners or the Rams? It's also.
- [118:39]
Big Cat
You're asking me? I didn't know there was a second.
- [118:41]
Arian Foster
It's also okay. We got Clint. And I want to say, is it Klein or Kevin?
- [118:45]
Mackenzie
Clay and Klein. Clint, Clay and Klein.
- [118:48]
Arian Foster
Clint, Clay and Klein.
- [118:50]
Big Cat
That's.
- [118:51]
Arian Foster
We're getting close.
- [118:52]
Big Cat
Can you. Can you do that? Is that allowed?
- [118:54]
Arian Foster
Clint, Clay, Klein.
- [118:55]
Big T
Getting kind of.
- [118:57]
Arian Foster
I mean, when you see the. The first name, last name K, you do ask yourself, like, what's his middle name? And I'm sure that it's not. We're not in a coffee with content Kim situation.
- [119:08]
Mackenzie
You'd like. You'd hope. Clint Kubiak's middle name is Alexander.
- [119:13]
Big Cat
I was. But the three sons.
- [119:16]
Mackenzie
The three sons being all K's. Three K's in a row. But it's like the Kardashians. They like the vibe. You know what I mean?
- [119:22]
Big Cat
It's no. It's no Nicholas Kerr, but yeah, I. I think.
- [119:29]
Arian Foster
Yeah. I mean, Gary Kubiak is not naming his son's middle names with K also. I don't want to imply that, but it does make you wonder what the middle initial.
- [119:38]
Big Cat
I just meant because there were three sons.
- [119:40]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [119:40]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [119:40]
Arian Foster
I feel like people that have Z last names, they're more inclined to go with the first name Z as well. I'd like to see a study done.
- [119:50]
Big Cat
On that Zakai Ziegler.
- [119:51]
Arian Foster
Just trying to think of maybe this is person. Because I know a few double Z's.
- [119:57]
Big Cat
I don't know a ton of Z's.
- [119:59]
Big T
I don't know. Name some Z last names.
- [120:01]
Arian Foster
What, like. Like Frank Zappa or his kids are Dweezil and Moon Unit.
- [120:07]
Mackenzie
Are you serious?
- [120:08]
Big T
Moon Unit.
- [120:09]
Arian Foster
Moon Unit. Yeah.
- [120:10]
Big Cat
What's the first one?
- [120:11]
Mackenzie
Dweasler?
- [120:12]
Arian Foster
Frank Zappa. He was a musician. He's a very weird guy.
- [120:16]
Big Cat
Is that a legal name? Moon.
- [120:17]
Big T
His name is Moon.
- [120:18]
Arian Foster
Moon Unit. Zappa.
- [120:19]
Big Cat
I think that kind of goes so crazy.
- [120:21]
Mackenzie
Moon Zappa. Dweezil Zappa, Ahmet and Diva Zappa.
- [120:26]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Okay, weird guy. Weird guy.
- [120:28]
Big T
But Moon Unit.
- [120:31]
Mackenzie
His first name is Moon. Oh, Moon Unit is a girl.
- [120:34]
Big T
Moon Unit is a girl.
- [120:36]
Mackenzie
Moon Unit. Zappa is an American actor, singer, and author. And then she named her child Matilda Plum. Right?
- [120:45]
Big T
Matilda Plum. What the fuck? Hey, you know what? Be free, man. Do. Do you. Moon Unit and Matilda Plum.
- [120:58]
Arian Foster
Okay.
- [120:58]
Big T
Matilda Plum survived by Moon Unit.
- [121:00]
Mackenzie
Clint Kubiak is getting looks for my head coach. Coach, I believe.
- [121:04]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [121:05]
Mackenzie
I'm not wrong.
- [121:05]
Big T
Yeah.
- [121:06]
Arian Foster
Did you know them.
- [121:09]
Big T
Like, they were around the program? I. I. Like, I would if I said if I saw them. Of course they recognize I recognize them. I'd be like, what's up? But not to the point of like, hey, what do you think about, you know, transgender swimmers in middle school?
- [121:23]
Arian Foster
That's how you know you're. You're truly. Boys. We have a very special guest coming up. Surprise guest, shock guest for about five minutes.
- [121:34]
Big Cat
It is because we don't know about it.
- [121:35]
Big T
Yeah.
- [121:36]
Arian Foster
Is he there?
- [121:36]
Big T
Yeah. I don't know.
- [121:37]
Mackenzie
I don't see him.
- [121:38]
Arian Foster
Okay. All right. I'm gonna do an ad read, but we have a very special guest coming up to talk about something that we were just talking about a second ago.
- [121:44]
Big Cat
I think I have an idea.
- [121:46]
Big T
Did he date Moon Unit?
- [121:48]
Arian Foster
Well, you can ask him.
- [121:49]
Big T
All right.
- [121:50]
Arian Foster
You can ask him. I'd be careful with the government names, though. When we. Before we get back, it's brought to you by our great friends over at BetterHelp. The new year doesn't require a new you. Maybe just a less burdened you. Therapy can help more easily identify what holds you back by offering unbiased perspectives to better understand your relationships, your motivations and emotions. This is actually a very appropriate ad for our next guest coming on BetterHelp. Does the initial matching work for you so you can focus on your therapy goals? A short questionnaire helps to identify your needs and your preferences and their 12 plus years of experience. Experience an industry leading match fulfillment rate means we typically get it right the first time. If you're not happy with your match, you can switch to a different therapist at any time from our tailored recommendations. They help you. They. They give you an unbiased perspective if you need help regulating some of your emotions. If you want to understand more about your relationships and why it is you do the things that you do, BetterHelp is a great way to get started with that conversation. They make it easy to get matched online with a qualified therapist. Sign up, get 10% off@betterhelp.com dose that's betterhelp h l p.com dose and this conversation is also brought to you by Green Chef. Are you annoyed with misleading healthy meals? Are you tired of locking in for another new year trend? Green Chef cuts through the noise. They are the trusted authority in clean eating, delivering only real farm source ingredients. Trust every bite. With over 40 clean, customizable weekly recipes designed to give you peace of mind. Every Green Chef box delivers certified organic produce and responsibly sourced proteins and seafood. That means avoiding ultra processed fillers. You can reach your wellness goals with options like Mediterranean, high protein, high fiber, plant based and more. All clinically proven to support healthier habits, make your habits better for the planet. Green Chef cuts food waste by 20% versus grocery shopping and offsets 100% of delivery emissions. Green Chef makes it easy for you to eat healthy, to get real quality food, not processed junk. Tasty clean. The war on protein's over.
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Big Cat
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Arian Foster
Celebrate it with Green Chef. I, I have not gotten it.
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Big Cat
I got it.
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Arian Foster
What do you think?
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Big Cat
It's great. There was, there was shrimp, there was tilapia, there was some pork chops. A few other things. I've still got some left, but it's, it's good stuff.
- [124:16]
Arian Foster
That is an unprompted endorsement from Big T. That's worth its weight in gold.
- [124:22]
Big Cat
Yeah.
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Mackenzie
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- [124:57]
Arian Foster
So convenient.
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Mackenzie
Yeah, I love it.
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Arian Foster
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- [125:17]
Mackenzie
He has still not entered the building. He should be able to just. He should be able to just click on it and enter.
- [125:23]
Arian Foster
This is an issue because I don't want to get into imperialism and then have to switch back.
- [125:27]
Mackenzie
Right.
- [125:28]
Arian Foster
Talk to him about whatever it is we're going to talk to him about.
- [125:31]
Big T
We, like, we already two hours in. You want to get into parallelism now?
- [125:34]
Arian Foster
Yeah, we. We should. We should talk about it. About it, because President Trump gave a speech at. Wait, is that him? No, no, he gave a speech at Davos today. Says that we are. It doesn't look like we're considering using the military to take Greenland anymore. I don't know. I think he just. I think he realized that he spooked the markets a little bit, and now he's trying to soften that he still wants Greenland. I think he said at some point it's. It's pathological for him that once he decides he. He needs something, he's going to get it one way or the other.
- [126:07]
Big T
No, he didn't do.
- [126:07]
Big Cat
Really?
- [126:08]
Big T
Yeah.
- [126:11]
Mackenzie
Did he say they call him Daddy over there?
- [126:13]
Big Cat
Wait, what?
- [126:14]
Arian Foster
Wait, yeah, yeah, he actually.
- [126:16]
Big Cat
Well, he actually said I got got. He said Iceland? Yes, he said in Iceland, they. They call me Daddy sometimes and then.
- [126:23]
Mackenzie
Just refer to Greenland and they say Daddy's gonna take it, then refer to him as Daddy. And Jesse Waters says, daddy needs his needs fulfilled.
- [126:32]
Arian Foster
Daddy needs Greenland.
- [126:33]
Mackenzie
Daddy needs Greenland.
- [126:34]
Big Cat
He did actually have.
- [126:36]
Arian Foster
That's actually a more straightforward, coherent foreign policy than we're used to hearing out of any president.
- [126:42]
Mackenzie
Daddy needs Greenland.
- [126:43]
Arian Foster
Daddy needs. Because ultimately, that's what. As we go back through the history of how we've acquired certain territories, it can be distilled down to that. Like, Daddy needs Louisiana.
- [126:57]
Big T
Yo.
- [126:58]
Arian Foster
That's it.
- [126:59]
Big T
This is real.
- [127:00]
Arian Foster
Daddy needs Puerto Rico.
- [127:02]
Big T
You know what? I'm. I'm retiring from ever arguing with anybody about politics ever again.
- [127:08]
Arian Foster
Yeah, that's what. That's what it ends up being. I'm not done.
- [127:12]
Big T
I'm done. I know if. If you.
- [127:14]
Big Cat
Well, I'm not, so that's gonna. That's gonna create an issue.
- [127:18]
Big T
Nah, you got it, brother. I got no. I got no opinion. Daddy's done arguing.
- [127:22]
Big Cat
He did actually have.
- [127:24]
Arian Foster
I want to correct some. Trump said it's psychologically important for him to have green. That's. It's not pathologic.
- [127:30]
Big Cat
Got it.
- [127:30]
Arian Foster
Big difference. Okay, we got a special guest right here.
- [127:33]
Rico Bosco
What's up? Sorry, House call ran great long. It's a great episode. Check it out. But what's going on?
- [127:38]
Big Cat
So. Barry, hey, I was wrong on the guest.
- [127:41]
Arian Foster
Who did you guess?
- [127:42]
Big Cat
I thought it was Bryce.
- [127:43]
Arian Foster
Oh, no, no. It's Rico Bosco. Rico joins his fresh off house. Go. Who was the guest today? Biz oh, that must have been great.
- [127:51]
Rico Bosco
Yeah, it was awesome. Big T. Quick question. It came up on house call. You have pretty much the whole company muted, but you sent me a tweet of mine. Am I muted? I should be, given my past transgression.
- [128:03]
Big Cat
Yes, but it's. Yes, but it's nothing against you. That's the default. There's only, like, five people who aren't.
- [128:10]
Rico Bosco
How'd you see my tweet, then?
- [128:12]
Big Cat
What. What tweet did I send you?
- [128:14]
Rico Bosco
The ice machine.
- [128:15]
Big Cat
Oh, yeah. Somebody sent it to me because I'm a big ice machine guy.
- [128:19]
Rico Bosco
I love that.
- [128:20]
Big Cat
Yeah. So I. I sent Rico the. The ice machine he needs to be looking at, but he wants a. Like, an industrial. Oh, like, restaurant ice machine for coolers.
- [128:32]
Big T
Little. Like, the little pellet.
- [128:34]
Rico Bosco
The little nuggets. But I'm looking to pack a cooler.
- [128:37]
Big T
Oh, yeah, that's too. It's too much. I got the little, like, little house one. House version one. Perfect.
- [128:44]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [128:44]
Rico Bosco
What do we got? Pft.
- [128:46]
Arian Foster
All right, so I want to get you on, because we were just talking about Charles Bediaco, and I know that you are a big. You're the number one Alabama Crimson Tide fan in the world, specifically when it comes to basketball. And we're talking about how, you know, he's in the G league, I guess, technically in the NBA, and then he is going to be playing for the Crimson Tide for Nate Oates and your team that you helped to assemble. And I was wondering where your thoughts were on. On this particular guy. If you think this is good for college basketball or bad, you might.
- [129:17]
Rico Bosco
I would point it. I mean, you guys are a big political show. Like, if you got problems with lawmakers, the. The young man made a mistake. The. The laws allow him to go back and get a college degree, which probably isn't push enough in this country. I mean, that's a whole other conversation. He wants to be a student athlete. He's enrolled in classes, have a great experience. The rules allow him to play. Be mad at the country. Don't be mad at the man.
- [129:40]
Arian Foster
Is he. So he's actively enrolled in college right now?
- [129:45]
Rico Bosco
From what I'm told, yeah.
- [129:46]
Arian Foster
Okay.
- [129:47]
Rico Bosco
If he could play Saturday, he's got to be enrolled in classes. So.
- [129:50]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [129:50]
Arian Foster
So he. He decided to, like, enroll at Alabama this past week, or was he. Was he there this entire year as he's playing in the NBA?
- [129:58]
Rico Bosco
Listen, from a guy who makes mistakes, like, you know, it's probably been daunted on the young man for a long time. Like, we got to worry? Is he sleeping at night? Like, you know, he. He's got a lot of regrets like this. This can't be easy for a guy. So I think he was looking to return his cool for a long period.
- [130:13]
Arian Foster
Of time and probably specifically for the academic part, get his degree. Yeah, yeah.
- [130:19]
Rico Bosco
It's an unbelievable. In terms of, like, college structures, I think it's Harvard, Yale, and then you got the babies of like Johns Hopkins and stuff, stuff like that. But Alabama's right there, like seventh best college in the country academically.
- [130:34]
Arian Foster
What were they like before NATO?
- [130:36]
Rico Bosco
It's got there basketball wasteland. To be honest with you.
- [130:40]
Arian Foster
You have no academic wasteland, but still a great school. Is this a. Is this a Nate Oats thing or is it an Alabama thing?
- [130:45]
Rico Bosco
I did read that the SAT scores for accepted students have gone up close to 700 points from the time he got in. So that's a guy who cares about basketball and academics, which is a guy I want leading the program. So, yeah, I don't, you know, I don't know.
- [131:03]
Arian Foster
What about the possibility of him playing against Tennessee and then going right back to the NBA after they rule that he's ineligible? Is that something that's crossed your mind?
- [131:12]
Rico Bosco
I would say that that court injunction or, you know, 10 day period, you have to be mad with those lawmakers. So Big T has a right to be a little miffed that he plays in this one game and that's when it falls. But again, like, point to the country.
- [131:29]
Arian Foster
Big T, your response?
- [131:31]
Big Cat
No, I mean, he's right. Listen, if there are a lot of laws, I would fix, but.
- [131:38]
Rico Bosco
You know, this is the land of opportunity. It really comes. It begs the question, like, Big T, are you proud to be an American?
- [131:45]
Big Cat
That's.
- [131:46]
Rico Bosco
If this is where we allow guys to play like, this is the country, it's good.
- [131:50]
Big Cat
Well, first of all, let's. Let's make clear that the only judge that has ruled on this is one in Tuscaloosa County. So let's not extrapolate that to all of America, but we'll see what happens when this goes to a real court.
- [132:07]
Arian Foster
Do you have a nickname for this guy? What. What are we gonna be calling. Is it just like. Come on, Charles.
- [132:11]
Rico Bosco
Charles in Char. Charles in Charge. We need some presence in the front court. Charles in Charge.
- [132:15]
Big Cat
Okay.
- [132:16]
Arian Foster
All right.
- [132:16]
Rico Bosco
Scott Bail. Brooklyn guy.
- [132:20]
Big Cat
And I know what Scott Baio has to do with this, but for those who don't.
- [132:25]
Arian Foster
Charles in Charge.
- [132:26]
Big Cat
Is that a film?
- [132:27]
Arian Foster
Charles in Charge television show.
- [132:30]
Rico Bosco
This brings things back to the full circle with childhood Crush draft. I took Nicole Eggert from Charles in Charge. She was in a very. She was in a very filthy scene in a movie. And then me and Dave got in a big argument about that scene.
- [132:44]
Arian Foster
How'd that go?
- [132:45]
Rico Bosco
I lost, but it was a great clip. We're in the clip business.
- [132:49]
Arian Foster
We are. Gimme a clip right now. Rico, what are you. What are you thinking about the. Give me a clip about the Patriots this week.
- [132:56]
Rico Bosco
Oh, yeah, I know you're in, but they have to win.
- [132:58]
Big Cat
It can't.
- [132:59]
Rico Bosco
Well, I'll put it this way. You love football, you love the best product. It can't be Denver in the Super Bowl. That's just the worst product. Two weeks of that. Like, what are we talking about? What are we selling? What's the story? They're just asking Jared Stidham. Hey, like, does your arm work? Are you alive? Do you not. You think you'll not suck? Like, I'm out on that. Give me the papers.
- [133:17]
Arian Foster
But ultimately, wouldn't this be, like, just one last feather in the cap for Bill Belichick if his guy, Jarrett Stidham was so good? Like, maybe Belichick found another Tom Brady instead him. And he just needs a shot, and the current regime won't even give him a look. He goes out to Denver. Sean Payton's like, I'm hand selecting Stiddy to be my backup. And now he gets a shot in the biggest moment, Beats the Patriots, goes to the Super Bowl, Broncos win the super bowl, and it's like, Belichick did it again.
- [133:48]
Rico Bosco
I could see that. It's a good sell. What are you on the hook for? 50k if they get there.
- [133:52]
Arian Foster
50 grand. I owe Hank $50,000. If they win. Yeah, on. On Sunday. No, no, no. If they win on Sunday, if they get to the Silver Bowl. Yeah.
- [134:02]
Rico Bosco
And you can't really hedge either.
- [134:03]
Arian Foster
Well, I'm good. I'm just going to keep betting on the Patriots, Okay. Yeah.
- [134:08]
Big Cat
By the way, Rico, you said Alabama number seven university in the country. I'm seeing 169. I had to scroll for a while to find it.
- [134:18]
Rico Bosco
Listen, there's seven in my heart, if that makes sense.
- [134:22]
Arian Foster
Okay, now, Rico, at.
- [134:23]
Rico Bosco
By my metrics, like, what's the. What's the College Board? What's that thing you used to apply to? Remember that?
- [134:29]
Big Cat
The region, whatever. Those are the people who run ap. Okay, and you. And you like Harvard and Yale. You like what they're doing over there? Because I heard you mentioned those.
- [134:38]
Rico Bosco
I just know they're a good academic institution.
- [134:40]
Arian Foster
Where's St. John's in all this.
- [134:43]
Rico Bosco
Cokeheads.
- [134:44]
Arian Foster
Okay, Shady, what's.
- [134:48]
Rico Bosco
What's Mad Dog's tie? Aryan seems thrilled with this second, by the way.
- [134:52]
Big Cat
Sorry.
- [134:52]
Big T
I mean, I just don't know what y' all talking about.
- [134:54]
Big Cat
Yeah, Rico.
- [134:54]
Mackenzie
Go Redhawks.
- [134:56]
Rico Bosco
Where's Mad Dogs tie? In with Miami of Ohio, brother.
- [134:59]
Mackenzie
That's my alma mater.
- [135:00]
Rico Bosco
Okay, where are we out the sweatsuit.
- [135:03]
Mackenzie
I have no connection to the inside basketball team at a school I graduated with three. Five years ago.
- [135:11]
Rico Bosco
Okay, what do you like? What do you mean? Do you like getting your nails done? We barter. Like you need a man. Like I don't get your life, but, like, whoa. What do you. What do you. What can we barter or a girl? I don't care. Like, whatever.
- [135:25]
Arian Foster
You're trying to traffic a. A boyfriend to her?
- [135:28]
Big T
Is that what you're saying?
- [135:29]
Mackenzie
No.
- [135:29]
Rico Bosco
Like, you always take it to the dark place. Bft. I don't know.
- [135:33]
Arian Foster
Like you said, you need a man.
- [135:37]
Big Cat
Rico, I don't.
- [135:38]
Arian Foster
I don't want. I don't know if I'm supposed to take that.
- [135:40]
Mackenzie
Okay, what do I need? I don't need anything in exchange for you getting a sweatsuit. I'm not. I'm not looking to be paid for. I'm not looking to be compensated for this. I'm just telling you I don't know anyone who works for them. Let me. Let me see what I can do. Let me.
- [135:57]
Big T
You need a girl.
- [136:00]
Arian Foster
Whatever you want, I'll get. I'll get you some girls.
- [136:02]
Rico Bosco
I'm looking to barter.
- [136:03]
Big Cat
Oh, is that what he was saying? He can get something to her.
- [136:06]
Arian Foster
He said, you need a. You need a man. You need. You need a girl.
- [136:08]
Mackenzie
Or a girl. Nails done.
- [136:10]
Arian Foster
You need your nails done.
- [136:12]
Big Cat
I see.
- [136:13]
Mackenzie
Let me see what I can do. I actually think I could reach out to the barstool Miami team of which I came from, but. And see if they have any connects. And it's for Mr. Bosco, of course. Yeah, I went there. That's. That's why.
- [136:29]
Rico Bosco
Where did Mackenzie. Where did Mackenzie go?
- [136:32]
Mackenzie
I went to ithaca College. Division 3, upstate New York.
- [136:37]
Rico Bosco
Yeah, I know. They have basketball. That's a rare one.
- [136:39]
Big Cat
Rico loves to. Rico loves to watch the Division 3 National Championship games so much that he didn't notice that it was buffering and not on. But he's a big Division 3 guy.
- [136:50]
Mackenzie
Respect for Division 3 athletics.
- [136:52]
Rico Bosco
Look at this. Idaho.
- [136:53]
Arian Foster
Idaho. Shout out. So the rarer the better when it comes to Charles in charge for the. For the Tide. Is he gonna be able to just Jump right back in. Yeah.
- [137:04]
Rico Bosco
He was playing in the G league. He's in great shape. He'll be fine.
- [137:06]
Arian Foster
I thought you. Ideally, if you're trying to build a team, what do you think that's going to do to team chemistry? If you're NATO, it's like you want to win. Oh, so win at all costs. We don't care about developing these young men.
- [137:19]
Big Cat
I don't. They haven't cared about developing young men there for a long time. Bring me the heat, I think was the. The operative phrase.
- [137:29]
Arian Foster
But you think they're just going to let him come back in? They'll say, okay, hey, sorry. I know that I promised you that you would get more minutes, but Charles is coming back, and you know how. What Charles wants, Charles gets.
- [137:42]
Rico Bosco
You would be crazy to think that you haven't talked to the team. There was a discussion.
- [137:46]
Arian Foster
I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure the other players on the team felt very comfortable saying.
- [137:51]
Rico Bosco
Got such a bad rap with the. With the. What do you call it?
- [137:54]
Arian Foster
The Mighty Ducks.
- [137:55]
Big Cat
Talking about the Mighty Ducks. Oh, Rico, which do you think is more egregious? Nate Oats having a murderer on his team and then his star player. Player giving the gun to him. And then they do a gun intro celebration when he comes on the court and he says he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time or getting professional players in the middle of the season to come bolster his roster.
- [138:17]
Rico Bosco
Not answering that. Qu.
- [138:18]
Big Cat
That's.
- [138:19]
Rico Bosco
That's. That's a trap and a legend.
- [138:21]
Big T
Wrong.
- [138:22]
Rico Bosco
You should. You're. You're a pillar of looking ahead. Pft. By the big T. If we just keep looking back, we're only going to see people's negatives.
- [138:29]
Big Cat
Sure.
- [138:30]
Arian Foster
That's true.
- [138:31]
Big Cat
Sure.
- [138:31]
Arian Foster
All right. So, yeah, good luck with your. With your professional basketball team that's playing college basketball this weekend.
- [138:37]
Big Cat
Maybe they'll bring back the pat down when he comes out.
- [138:40]
Big T
Yeah, yeah.
- [138:41]
Mackenzie
Rico, I reached out to my people at Miami.
- [138:44]
Rico Bosco
I appreciate that.
- [138:45]
Mackenzie
Yeah, I'll let them know that. It's for you.
- [138:46]
Arian Foster
All right, Rico, good luck this weekend. I need you. I need you on my Broncos.
- [138:50]
Big Cat
Good luck to Idaho and Miami of Ohio and the Florida women's team.
- [138:55]
Mackenzie
Go spread Hawks.
- [138:57]
Big T
All right.
- [138:58]
Rico Bosco
Roll talk.
- [139:00]
Arian Foster
By Rico.
- [139:01]
Big Cat
Do you know that. Do you know the Florida women's lore?
- [139:03]
Arian Foster
I don't.
- [139:04]
Big Cat
When we were. When we were in war times.
- [139:06]
Big T
Yeah.
- [139:07]
Big Cat
One of. One of my friends who was a manager on the Florida women's basketball team. I forget if he replied to a Rico tweet. Or liked it or something, And Rico saw that his bio said, like, florida women's pass, whatever, and just DM'd him. Anything fall off the truck? Having no idea that he was one of my boys, it was. It was pretty funny. So I guess that's just what he's sending to everybody.
- [139:33]
Arian Foster
I. I love rico.
- [139:34]
Big Cat
Excel. If something falls off the truck, I love rico.
- [139:37]
Arian Foster
All right, let's talk about acquisition.
- [139:39]
Big Cat
I got a piss.
- [139:40]
Arian Foster
Like a. Yeah, go. Go for it. Let it rip.
- [139:42]
Big Cat
Big after a while.
- [139:43]
Arian Foster
Do race horses be a lot, I think. Yeah, that's a good question. They probably give him a lot of water, right? Like piss.
- [139:49]
Big T
Any more than regular horses?
- [139:52]
Arian Foster
They probably drink more water.
- [139:54]
Mackenzie
Do professional athletes piss more than regular people?
- [139:58]
Big T
Probably not.
- [139:59]
Arian Foster
I don't know.
- [139:59]
Big Cat
I don't know.
- [140:00]
Mackenzie
The hydration thing.
- [140:00]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Did you.
- [140:01]
Big T
I mean, no, because I piss more now than I did when I was playing, so that's.
- [140:04]
Arian Foster
That might be. We might be getting older.
- [140:06]
Mackenzie
That might be.
- [140:06]
Big T
Yeah.
- [140:07]
Arian Foster
I'm just getting older.
- [140:07]
Big T
I'm getting. Oh, Maddie, too. Yeah, that might be.
- [140:11]
Arian Foster
Oh, did you have.
- [140:13]
Big T
I have. I have a reach. I have reached out, though. I am.
- [140:15]
Arian Foster
Did you have hydration charts in your locker room when you're on the Texans?
- [140:19]
Big T
Yeah.
- [140:19]
Mackenzie
Really?
- [140:20]
Arian Foster
Oh, yeah.
- [140:21]
Big T
Like, you pee at. In the top of the urinal, there's color. If you're this color, you need more. You aim for this. This section of. This section of the color. Yeah.
- [140:29]
Mackenzie
Can I ask a question? Oh, wait.
- [140:31]
Big T
Go ahead. I was gonna say forever. My. When I pee, I see that color chart, I'm like, I should probably get a little more hydrated.
- [140:38]
Arian Foster
Championship hydration levels. Was that the one at the top and the one at the bottom didn't say. No.
- [140:42]
Big T
I don't know that they categorized them with success. Team success. I was like, if you. If it was more like that little kid. Like, if you are here, you need to drink X amount of fluids.
- [140:56]
Arian Foster
Tom Herman did that at Texas, where he had different segments. Like, at the top, it was championship hydration levels. And then at the bottom, where it was like, orange, it said, you are a bad guy.
- [141:07]
Big T
Damn.
- [141:07]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [141:10]
Big T
I performed under both circumstances. Go ahead, Maddie.
- [141:13]
Mackenzie
I have a gross question for guys when they pee. So when I pee. Sorry if it's not. If we're talking urinal peeing, I want to be specific there. When I pee, I can always see the color of my pee, because I always pee into a toilet. How can you see the color of your pee if you're standing at a urinal? Because doesn't it just kind of go away automatically.
- [141:35]
Big T
It's.
- [141:35]
Arian Foster
You can see it as it comes out.
- [141:38]
Big T
And I would argue that the stream is probably more accurate than the urinal because the urinal is going underwater. Water already.
- [141:44]
Arian Foster
So you see the stream, it's probably.
- [141:47]
Big T
Darker than the urinal. Water leads on.
- [141:51]
Mackenzie
Right.
- [141:52]
Big T
Because it gets diluted. But if you are dark and it's in the bowl, you're probably in the. Probably bad guy.
- [142:00]
Mackenzie
Doesn't it all just kind of drain out immediately when it hits the urinal?
- [142:03]
Arian Foster
It depends on what urinal you're at. But there are some urinals where it. It collects a little bit.
- [142:08]
Mackenzie
Okay. So you can kind of see a.
- [142:10]
Arian Foster
You get the vibe.
- [142:10]
Mackenzie
Do you have. Don't you still have to flush a urinal?
- [142:13]
Arian Foster
Most of them.
- [142:14]
Mackenzie
Oh, okay.
- [142:15]
Arian Foster
Some of them are like, constant or like a trough. You don't have to flush.
- [142:18]
Mackenzie
Right.
- [142:18]
Big T
Okay. I get a. I get. I get a urinal grip.
- [142:22]
Mackenzie
We're getting a trough.
- [142:23]
Arian Foster
Awesome.
- [142:24]
Big T
Which. Pretty cool.
- [142:25]
Arian Foster
We're doing piss talk. Yeah.
- [142:27]
Mackenzie
I was just wondering because then I was thinking about that because I've never watched myself p. I guess. You know what I mean? Coming out. Coming out.
- [142:34]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Straight from the tap. Yep. Draft piss.
- [142:45]
Rico Bosco
Out.
- [142:45]
Big T
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- [143:15]
Arian Foster
All right. US Territorial expansion, imperialism, colonialism. We're trying to get Greenland if we can. Trump just spoke at Davos. Seemed to walk back the. The notion that he was going to use force again. I think it's because he saw it spooked the markets big time yesterday, and Trump doesn't like that. So I think that's why he kind of softened the rhetoric.
- [143:39]
Big T
So Mr. 79 has been grinding, man. Been off my phone for a while. Give me the basic rundown of that situation.
- [143:47]
Arian Foster
Okay, so he wants Greenland, and he says it's psychologically important to him to have Greenland. He wants it because it's strategically located in the North Atlantic in between the United States, Canada and Russia. He claims that Russia and China are both trying to take it as well. And he's saying, wouldn't you rather have the United States have it than have our enemies have it?
- [144:17]
Big T
And has there been any reports about them wanting it?
- [144:21]
Arian Foster
I know that theoretically it's something that Russia would probably like access to, and they would prefer that the US didn't have unlimited reign over Greenland. Right now, we do have military bases on Greenland, and we've had them there for a while. And he. Trump says that it's important if he's going to build the golden dome that he wants to build, which is the US Equivalent of Israel's Iron Dome. We already have missile defense systems. The problem is the technology. It's not really the location of them. The technology is like hit or miss. If you're trying to shoot down, like, any incoming nuclear weapon, like, let's say North Korea shot a nuke at us, it's gonna be going so fast that it's extremely hard to intercept it. It's. What was the movie that came out that I fucking hated? It was about that same situation, came out, like, three months ago, and it looked like a great movie that I would love. And then I couldn't stand it anyways. I think they described it as trying to hit a bullet with another bullet because both these things are traveling so fast. So it's really hard to intercept those missiles, regardless of. Of where you're located. But he wants. He's enamored with the idea of an iron dome, the Golden Dome, which does a great job shooting down rockets for the most part, but they travel way, way slower. And we already have a missile defense system. But I think what he's talking about is upgrading it.
- [145:46]
Big T
And he's like, how you say missile defense system sounds cool.
- [145:49]
Arian Foster
Yeah, he thinks that we have. Thank you. Appreciate that. Yeah, he thinks that having free reign over Greenland would make it easier to do that. I also think that Greenland has. Well, it's not me that thinks that Greenland does have a lot of rare earth minerals and stuff that you can mine, and we want access to that, too. Which he's also said, should I check? Because I just.
- [146:14]
Big T
I doubt Trump's strategy. I think Trump is bought and paid for, but. So I checked to see if Greenland was mentioned in Project 2025. Surely enough, it is what it said.
- [146:26]
Big Cat
Well, he brought it up during his first term. Right.
- [146:29]
Arian Foster
I don't remember what he said, not.
- [146:30]
Big Cat
Nearly to this extent, but he. He said something about it.
- [146:36]
Big T
So it basically says that it should use, like, diplomatic presidents to.
- [146:48]
Arian Foster
I'm sorry.
- [146:48]
Big T
Presence to get involved in the local politics and economics, strengthen the Economic ties there, I'm sure reading more into probably has something to do with those minerals and resources.
- [147:05]
Arian Foster
I think that's a big part of it too.
- [147:06]
Big T
Yeah, yeah.
- [147:08]
Arian Foster
So right now it's only. Go ahead.
- [147:11]
Big T
I was gonna say I. Because I, I think a lot of the times he gets criticized as having all these ideas, but I don't think a lot of them are his. I think a lot of, a lot of things he has like, you know, a cabinet that wants to execute this idea, a lot of right wing oligarchs.
- [147:32]
Arian Foster
And I think if it's something that in his brain makes him appear strong, he's more likely to agree with the idea, which, yeah, I think, I think it's probably a fair thing to say about him. If it's. So Denmark, they own Greenland, That's a territory of Denmark. Right now, Denmark is a NATO country. And so therefore if we were to use force to take over Greenland, it would in theory invoke Article 5 of the NATO treaty, which is that every other NATO country would have to then defend that country. So if we were the ones that initiated a military conflict, in theory, that would break up NATO because it would become the rest of NATO having to fight against the United States. If the treaty was followed through upon. I think Trump was taking a gamble that it would not be followed through upon because we are a very significant part, the biggest part of NATO in terms of our military. So it's like, do they want to team up against us? Would that be, would that be good for anybody involved in his calculation? I don't think that it would be. I would agree with that. But it also would throw the European alliance into such chaos that it would affect the US Markets and the economy. I think Trump saw that, which is why he's back. He seems to be backing down a little bit from using force to take it over. Now he's going to try to potentially start some sort of a trade war. I don't know what he's going to actually do, but he's, he's made threats, he's made statements that make it seem like he's going to jack up tariffs to the extent where Europe would have no choice but to just do like a full on boycott of U. S. Goods, which would be bad for everybody involved and I think he's seen that too. So who knows what's actually going to happen? It could be any of the things that I mentioned. It could be something else. But he wants Greenland and so he's trying to figure out a way to take It. He did also refer to to Greenland as Iceland a couple times this morning, which was interesting.
- [149:32]
Big T
You know, I'm gonna give a pass there.
- [149:34]
Arian Foster
It's. Yeah. I mean, and if we're gonna keep going with the Mighty Ducks analogies and Mighty Ducks too. They had to explain Greenland is full filled with ice, but Iceland is very nice. That's how you can tell the two.
- [149:46]
Big Cat
They don't tell you.
- [149:48]
Big T
Yeah.
- [149:48]
Big Cat
Insane that Iceland was the. The enemy in that film because they were scared of actually making it. The Soviet Union.
- [149:57]
Arian Foster
It is crazy. It is crazy. Also Iceland. To be fair, Iceland and Greenland, they should switch names.
- [150:04]
Big Cat
Agreed, right?
- [150:05]
Big T
Just like an agreed upon. Like, hey, you know what it is? That's. Come on.
- [150:09]
Arian Foster
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but is Iceland. Is it. Is the name Iceland as it's said in Icelandic or whatever. Does it mean island? Were they going for island and then we just change it to Iceland? Or is the name about ice? I don't know the answer to this question.
- [150:28]
Big T
Don't know that I've thought too heavy about Iceland.
- [150:31]
Arian Foster
I hear it's beautiful here. It's a very cool place to go. If you, if you're into nature.
- [150:37]
Big Cat
In Iceland, it's seems like just the word island. Islandia directly from Icelandic language for island.
- [150:47]
Big T
Okay.
- [150:48]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Why don't we call Iceland island and then Greenland Iceland. I think everybody wins.
- [150:59]
Big Cat
Do either of these countries have enough of an effect on the world for this to matter? Well, like I'd be down to flip them, but then I was just thinking like, who. Who cares?
- [151:07]
Arian Foster
Greenland might like if we, if we go through this stuff, it would definitely affect the world.
- [151:15]
Big Cat
Yeah, nothing's. Nothing ever happens. Don't worry about it.
- [151:18]
Arian Foster
Okay, so it's not the first time the US has tried to expand. Won't be the last. But I. Yeah, I thought, I thought Canada's was the Canadian Prime Minister. He gave a speech yesterday that was pretty much saying like we've. We've turned a blind eye to America for a long time and just gone along with the lie that they've tried to do things for the greater good and not just for their own benefit. But we can't keep up that lie anymore. I mean, that's. If you're a superpower. Yes, that's exactly what the United States has done. We try to benefit ourselves and we try to do whatever it takes to increase our gdp, our wealth, our territory to the extent that until it becomes detrimental, then we back off. That's how, it's how the world has gone. Doesn't mean that it's right, but that's the nature of superpowers. So the U.S. back in 1800, started talks to acquire Louisiana. The U.S. was relatively small back then, and Thomas Jefferson got some advice from a friend that he should try to buy Louisiana from Napoleon. They said, don't start a war over this. See if you can make a deal on it. So Thomas Jefferson sent his two negotiators, Robert Livingston and James Monroe, and he gave them instructions that you can pay up to 9.37 million for new Orleans and Florida. And then Napoleon said, tell you what, I'll give you New Orleans, but how about I throw in the rest of that Western territory that went all throughout the Midwest, up to Oregon, Washington, essentially doubling the size of the United States. If you want this, though, you're going to have to give me cash on the spot, and I'll sell it to you for the low price of $11.25 million. Plus you have to pay for $3.75 million of French debt that we have. So that would make it, what, 15 million all in. Right. What would that be in today's money?
- [153:37]
Big Cat
I'm looking it up right now.
- [153:38]
Arian Foster
How much did we get all that land for?
- [153:42]
Big Cat
$100 in 1803 has about $2,800 in purchasing power today. So that would make it. Hold, please. About $315 million dollars.
- [153:56]
Arian Foster
That's a great deal.
- [153:58]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [153:59]
Arian Foster
What would that be?
- [154:00]
Big T
The.
- [154:00]
Arian Foster
Like, what could you get for $315 million in a MLS team?
- [154:05]
Big T
No.
- [154:07]
Big Cat
Oh, yeah.
- [154:08]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [154:08]
Big T
Really?
- [154:09]
Big Cat
MLS?
- [154:10]
Big T
Yeah. Wow.
- [154:11]
Arian Foster
Like an established MLS team, probably.
- [154:14]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [154:15]
Arian Foster
See what the cost of D.C. united is.
- [154:17]
Big T
Wow. I didn't know that.
- [154:18]
Arian Foster
What the value is.
- [154:20]
Big T
I also don't know about soccer, though.
- [154:22]
Big Cat
And that's only because they've gone up a bunch recently. Oh, maybe we're wrong. D.C. united's valuation has hovered around mid-700s.
- [154:30]
Arian Foster
Oh, wow. All right.
- [154:32]
Big Cat
But. But that's in a. That's in a major area. What about the. Who's the sporting Casey?
- [154:38]
Arian Foster
Yeah, let's see what that is.
- [154:44]
Big Cat
$700 million.
- [154:45]
Arian Foster
All right, let's think WNBA franchise, Columbus Cruise. Like, I think they're Haslam operation.
- [154:55]
Mackenzie
WNBA Team 900.
- [154:57]
Big Cat
All right.
- [154:57]
Arian Foster
Phoenix Mercury.
- [154:58]
Big Cat
Yeah. You could get a. You could get it. We'll call it WNBA.
- [155:01]
Mackenzie
PLO.
- [155:02]
Big Cat
Oh, I mean, yeah.
- [155:03]
Arian Foster
Yeah. No, no. Yes. McKinsey's right. Yes. The Water Dogs. The Water Dogs are worth that much? Yeah.
- [155:09]
Big Cat
I think for $300 million, you could get 3 million PLL.
- [155:13]
Arian Foster
No, no. You could buy the league if you want. If you want to buy the Philadelphia Water Dogs from myself and Big Cat, the conversation starts at 400. Okay. And we're gonna need that, guaranteed. I need cash.
- [155:30]
Big Cat
Do y' all actually own that? How does that work?
- [155:32]
Arian Foster
We own a.
- [155:35]
Big T
I.
- [155:37]
Mackenzie
Do you even know?
- [155:38]
Arian Foster
It's a good question. I was about to say, like, not insignificant amount, but it might be insignificant.
- [155:45]
Big Cat
If you don't know. I do.
- [155:47]
Arian Foster
A possibly significant amount.
- [155:49]
Big Cat
Okay. If you don't know, I'd guess it's rather insignificant.
- [155:52]
Arian Foster
That's probably a fair. Fair assumption.
- [155:56]
Big T
Can we do a stock checkup?
- [155:58]
Arian Foster
Yes.
- [155:59]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [156:00]
Mackenzie
Yeah.
- [156:00]
Arian Foster
Let's check out. The account right now is loading. We up?
- [156:06]
Mackenzie
We're up.
- [156:07]
Arian Foster
Let's go.
- [156:08]
Mackenzie
We're at.
- [156:08]
Arian Foster
Economy's doing good.
- [156:10]
Mackenzie
$1,284.69 at the moment.
- [156:14]
Big Cat
So we're up 28%.
- [156:16]
Mackenzie
All time. Let's check.
- [156:18]
Big Cat
Well, y' all put in a thousand dollars, right?
- [156:20]
Mackenzie
Yeah, all time. We're up 22%.
- [156:22]
Big Cat
Thank you, President Trump.
- [156:23]
Arian Foster
Okay. That's huge.
- [156:26]
Big T
Ride the market, baby.
- [156:27]
Mackenzie
So we were down. Our lowest was April 8, 2025.
- [156:33]
Arian Foster
Those are tough times.
- [156:34]
Mackenzie
And that. We were at $711. And just like that, we're at 1284.
- [156:40]
Arian Foster
If you panic, sold, shame on you. Back to Louisiana real quick. We wanted Louisiana because France had recently gotten control of it. They got it from Spain in 1800, and we got Louisiana. Or they got Louisiana and they got six warships in exchange for putting a specific person, the Spanish king's son in law, onto the throne of a new kingdom in Northern Italy. So they gave them all that land that worried us in the United States. We didn't want France to have adjoining land to us because if you've done any. If you know any history, the French and the British really don't like each other. And if we wanted to defend ourselves against all this French land, it would have meant that we would have had to be in bed with the British and use them for our defense against the defense against the French, which we did not want to do. And we wanted our independence clear and free from England. So that's why Thomas Jefferson was like, hey, maybe I'll just try to buy it instead of starting war. And Napoleon, like I said, was open to the idea, but he wanted to throw in more land as long as we could pay a little bit more money, because they were about to go to war with England. So Napoleon's brothers got word of this impending transaction, Joseph Bonaparte and Lucien Bonaparte, and they were pissed off about it. They said that they were Going to oppose it. They went to visit Napoleon to try to convince him to. To change his mind about selling Louisiana to the United States. At the time, Napoleon was taking a bath in rose petal water. Must be nice to be Napoleon. And his brothers confronted him. He stood up out of the bath, I presume, just completely naked. And then they got into an argument and Napoleon said, fuck off, I'm going to do it. You're being a bitch right now. And then he jumped into his tub, did a cannonball and splashed his brothers with the rose petal bath water.
- [158:54]
Big T
How do we get the accounts of this event happening?
- [158:57]
Arian Foster
His brothers wrote it in their memoir. Yeah.
- [159:03]
Big T
Oh, that's how you get the bathtubs.
- [159:05]
Arian Foster
That is we.
- [159:07]
Rico Bosco
Napoleon.
- [159:07]
Big Cat
Yeah. I mean, I wasn't gonna do it.
- [159:10]
Arian Foster
Napoleon short king.
- [159:11]
Big T
Right? That is funny. A visual of like a grown ass man being like you. I'm getting back in my tub, my guy. Yeah. And just cannonball your own shit.
- [159:20]
Arian Foster
You've interrupted my. My flower bath, you insolent thug. By the way, great deal. Maybe the best deal ever, right?
- [159:35]
Big Cat
I mean, yeah, because we got the Mississippi river and stuff. Is there any or is there anything in there that we're excited about other than New Orleans? You're excited about that?
- [159:46]
Arian Foster
Dude, yeah. New Orleans is great.
- [159:47]
Big Cat
Some would argue that's a massive mistake.
- [159:49]
Arian Foster
I love New Orleans. New Orleans is. Yeah.
- [159:52]
Big Cat
I mean, so it's what else? Like Missouri, Oklahoma, St. Louis.
- [159:57]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Napoleon was like, tell you what, I will, I will throw in Topeka for free.
- [160:01]
Big Cat
Yeah. I mean, we did money wise, obviously. Great deal. Shipping routes, all that. I. I don't know that the acquired.
- [160:11]
Arian Foster
It's real estate.
- [160:12]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [160:12]
Arian Foster
They don't make more of it.
- [160:13]
Big Cat
It's true.
- [160:14]
Arian Foster
You get Colorado. That's kind of nice.
- [160:17]
Big Cat
Okay.
- [160:17]
Arian Foster
Get the Rockies, get Oregon, Washington.
- [160:23]
Big Cat
Does it go all the way up there?
- [160:24]
Arian Foster
Yeah, because that's what Lewis and Clark, when they went to explore the Louisiana Purchase, they went all the way up to Oregon.
- [160:30]
Big T
Right.
- [160:32]
Big Cat
It's been a while since I've studied that.
- [160:33]
Arian Foster
Get the Great Plains, you get Mount Rushmore. We had to have Mount Rushmore because it's like, can you imagine? Like the French, they have a monument, like a natural growing rock that. That happens to be in the shape of our four best presidents. It's under control. The French, whatever you want, we have to pay for that. We have to take that.
- [160:51]
Big Cat
Have you ever been to Mount Rushmore?
- [160:53]
Arian Foster
I've not.
- [160:53]
Big Cat
Would you ever go to it?
- [160:54]
Arian Foster
I think I probably will at some point for some sort of bit. I'm sure you'd make it.
- [160:58]
Big Cat
But would you make a trip out there specifically for that if you didn't, if you weren't in this line of work?
- [161:03]
Arian Foster
Probably not.
- [161:04]
Big Cat
Of everything being laced with irony?
- [161:07]
Arian Foster
Probably not. Probably.
- [161:09]
Big Cat
That's the thing is like they, they talk about it like it's something you got to see and it's just. I'm not going up there. I'm not planning on it anyway.
- [161:17]
Arian Foster
Can I. Can I make a prediction?
- [161:18]
Big Cat
Yeah. It's going to be gone.
- [161:21]
Arian Foster
No. There might be an addition to Mount Rushmore. At least that I could see in the next, let's say, call it, I don't know, three years.
- [161:36]
Big Cat
I don't know that he has the.
- [161:38]
Arian Foster
I could see a world where that becomes a thing that is at the forefront of conversation in America.
- [161:47]
Big Cat
I don't know that he has the poll for that. Who makes that call?
- [161:50]
Arian Foster
Executive order. I mean, big. Can we be honest like he, he would love to be.
- [161:56]
Big Cat
Oh, I'm sure he would. Yeah.
- [161:58]
Arian Foster
Yeah, he'd love to.
- [161:59]
Big Cat
Well, he's big. He's trying to do his library right now.
- [162:01]
Arian Foster
That's true.
- [162:02]
Big T
Yeah.
- [162:03]
Arian Foster
Maybe.
- [162:04]
Big Cat
Do you know how those work, by the way?
- [162:06]
Arian Foster
I'm a little unfamiliar with the presidential libraries.
- [162:09]
Big Cat
It's kind of like insane.
- [162:11]
Arian Foster
It's technically owned by the National Archives, but it's also owned by the foundation for each president.
- [162:18]
Big Cat
It's all privately funded.
- [162:20]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [162:20]
Big Cat
And the ways they get the money for it is like kind of nuts. Like that's kind of legalized bribery in a lot of cases. It's really interesting.
- [162:29]
Arian Foster
Like if you got a, like a 300 million dollar jet.
- [162:33]
Big Cat
Things like that.
- [162:34]
Arian Foster
Things like that.
- [162:35]
Big Cat
Hypothetical. But all, all presidents do shady deals to get stuff for their library.
- [162:39]
Arian Foster
Yeah. Obama was fundraising for a while for his.
- [162:42]
Big Cat
Which where is that by the way? Because I keep seeing pictures of it in Chicago. I know, but like where, if you go.
- [162:47]
Arian Foster
It's like southwest of here, I think it looks terrible.
- [162:52]
Big T
Yeah.
- [162:52]
Arian Foster
It's a weird looking building anyway, so. Yeah. I'm just saying that if I were to bet on something happening, there might be some traction towards that soon.
- [163:05]
Big Cat
Guess we'll find out.
- [163:06]
Arian Foster
We also, we bought Florida.
- [163:10]
Big Cat
Much better deal.
- [163:11]
Arian Foster
Good deal, you would say better deal than the Louisiana Purchase.
- [163:18]
Big Cat
Just in terms of somewhere I'd like to go.
- [163:22]
Big T
Yeah.
- [163:23]
Arian Foster
Okay. All right. So in 1810, there was a rebellion that happened in Florida and West Florida declared independence from Spain at the time. And because of this conflict, James Madison, shout out Dukes, they said, we're going to support this rebellion as a matter of Fact, we're just going to claim all of Florida because Spain, you're fighting war right now against France. France was fighting everybody. You don't want to have to take care of Florida. This is probably a big pain in the ass for you. We'll just take all of it. You guys can. We'll let you keep Cuba for a little bit, but we want Florida now. And then there were nine years of negotiations, and John Quincy Adams, he signed the Florida Purchase Treaty that got the United States possession of Florida. Guess how much Florida cost.
- [164:17]
Big Cat
So if the Louisiana purchase was 11.
- [164:19]
Arian Foster
Million Florida, it was really 15, because.
- [164:21]
Big Cat
It was like, okay, substantially smaller. I'm gonna go four million.
- [164:26]
Arian Foster
Five million bucks for Florida.
- [164:28]
Big Cat
I do this shit. I'm back.
- [164:30]
Arian Foster
Yep. Five million bucks for Florida, which would be 100 million.
- [164:35]
Big Cat
Yeah, about that.
- [164:36]
Arian Foster
About $100 million. Like the cost of the value of Telluride Bush.
- [164:41]
Big Cat
Okay. Is that what they're saying?
- [164:42]
Arian Foster
We got Florida. I just. I'm trying to. Trying to gas him up a little bit.
- [164:46]
Big Cat
I'm sorry, I. I have to interrupt. Are y' all on Twitter right now?
- [164:49]
Mackenzie
Yeah, I just saw it.
- [164:52]
Big Cat
Have you. You gotta go see this. I don't even need to say it. You're. You're posting. You're posting your own hype videos.
- [165:02]
Mackenzie
Oh, that's not what I was referring to.
- [165:03]
Big T
Oh, yeah, brother.
- [165:05]
Big Cat
Well, while we've been talking. Aryan, did you make this? Who made this?
- [165:10]
Big T
I made it.
- [165:11]
Big Cat
Aryan posted a. A collage mashup video of his breaking 80 with the scorecard in the back and a 79 swiggling around the screen.
- [165:23]
Arian Foster
Did you edit this yourself, or did you have a guy.
- [165:26]
Mackenzie
We did a ch.
- [165:27]
Big Cat
Channel.
- [165:28]
Big T
Yeah. What? Yeah, you know what? Thank you.
- [165:33]
Arian Foster
You did it yourself.
- [165:34]
Big T
Yeah, man.
- [165:35]
Big Cat
I love. I love the beginning.
- [165:37]
Arian Foster
I can tell from the uncropped borders that you did it yourself.
- [165:39]
Big T
Okay, bro.
- [165:40]
Arian Foster
Okay, learn. Aspect ratio, bro.
- [165:43]
Big Cat
That's a classic. You know, if.
- [165:44]
Big T
If they had the option, I was like, it.
- [165:47]
Big Cat
I've got. That's. That's a good one. You know when somebody's singing and they don't sing that well? You know what you do?
- [165:51]
Arian Foster
What?
- [165:52]
Big Cat
You say, who. Who sings this song? And then. And then they tell you. And then you say, let's keep it that way.
- [165:57]
Arian Foster
That's a good one.
- [165:57]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [165:58]
Mackenzie
My mom used to say, where'd you put that money? And then I'd say, what money? She say, for singing lessons.
- [166:03]
Big Cat
That's good.
- [166:04]
Arian Foster
Damn, that's pretty brutal.
- [166:06]
Mackenzie
Yeah, she. She really got me there.
- [166:09]
Big Cat
Sorry. All right. Yeah, I just. It came up on my tl.
- [166:13]
Arian Foster
All right, so, brother, so we gotta.
- [166:15]
Big T
Celebrate our wins, you know?
- [166:16]
Big Cat
No, A th percent. It was just. It was just jarring because you're right here.
- [166:21]
Arian Foster
Did you just edit it yourself right now as we were speaking, or did.
- [166:24]
Big T
You kind of throughout the episode? A lot of it came when Rico came on the.
- [166:29]
Big Cat
We've been going a while.
- [166:31]
Arian Foster
All right, wait, what was the other thing that you're talking about?
- [166:33]
Mackenzie
Mad dog Caroline Levitt defending Trump for calling Greenland Iceland. Oh, and she said it's because it's literally a piece of ice. You're the only one getting something wrong. And to some reporter, and then everyone's just, quote, treating her with the actual clip. I thought that's what we were referring to because we were just talking about Greenland. My b.
- [166:53]
Arian Foster
Okay, so he was. He was right.
- [166:56]
Mackenzie
To the piece of ice.
- [166:57]
Arian Foster
He was right.
- [166:57]
Mackenzie
That is Greenland.
- [166:58]
Arian Foster
Yeah, he was right.
- [166:59]
Big Cat
That's. That's some Joe Biden shit. She. You can't do that. That's what Joe Biden press secretary said all the time.
- [167:06]
Mackenzie
Yeah, she said. And then she.
- [167:10]
Big Cat
I mean, it's her job, but like.
- [167:12]
Mackenzie
She posted a picture of googling Greenland and said like, it's literally.
- [167:20]
Arian Foster
It's literally ice.
- [167:21]
Mackenzie
Yeah, no, he didn't. Libby. His wrist. His written remarks refer to Greenland as a piece of ice because that's what it is. You're the only one mixing anything up here.
- [167:29]
Big Cat
Wait, is the person's name Libby?
- [167:31]
Mackenzie
Yeah, but she's probably wrong.
- [167:33]
Big Cat
Oh, that would have actually been awesome if she just called somebody Libby just because they're. They're a Democrat.
- [167:39]
Mackenzie
Yeah, she spelled it like that and then the actual reporter spelled it L, I, B, B, E, Y. Caroline left out the E to make it.
- [167:49]
Big Cat
That's fine.
- [167:51]
Mackenzie
But yeah, sorry, I thought that's what you're referring to.
- [167:53]
Arian Foster
Okay. We do actually have some more news about Greenland right now. Just happened. Trump has decided to call off the tariffs on Europe as well as to walk back his military threats.
- [168:08]
Big Cat
And why is he doing that? Pft. Brilliant move out of the deal because nothing ever happens.
- [168:13]
Arian Foster
Nothing ever happens. He said he's not going to be imposing tariffs on Europe because they've reached the framework of a future deal on Greenland with the NATO. Secretary General Mark Root said the US Would not use force, repeat his claim that the US Is capable of defending it and we're the only ones that can. But he is calling off the tariffs. So, yeah, this is. I think it's kind of what we described earlier was he did not want to freak the markets out anymore. He saw that there was going to.
- [168:46]
Big T
Be a trade war.
- [168:47]
Arian Foster
Everybody would not like that.
- [168:48]
Big T
And so he's, he's, he knows exactly what he's doing and he called their bluff. And whatever he does is just what it is.
- [168:59]
Arian Foster
Right.
- [169:00]
Big T
You know what I mean?
- [169:01]
Arian Foster
Or. Well, I'm seeing the language of they've reached the framework of a future deal.
- [169:06]
Big T
That's right. That's right. Put them on a, put them, you know, put them in a corner.
- [169:10]
Arian Foster
The framework of a future deal. That language reminds me of the upcoming and closing very soonly live PGA Tour merger that we have.
- [169:21]
Big T
Also a healthcare plan which is on the way. It's around the corner.
- [169:26]
Arian Foster
That is true. He did have, he did put out a plan.
- [169:30]
Big T
Oh, he did.
- [169:31]
Arian Foster
Elements of a plan.
- [169:32]
Big T
Yes, I see it.
- [169:35]
Arian Foster
Elements of a plan demanding preferred status for prescription drug prices, which I think is a good thing. And then two other things. I think there were three items in total and I think the other two things were things that were in place in Obamacare.
- [169:55]
Big T
The great health care plan. I missed this. This was. This is recent, huh?
- [170:00]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [170:01]
Big T
Oh, okay. Lowering drug prices. Okay. Lowering insurance premiums. Holding big insurance companies accountable. Great healthcare plan. Oh, this is the fact sheet. Okay. Okay. It's two pages. Let's go.
- [170:16]
Arian Foster
It's not a lot of meat to it.
- [170:20]
Big T
Maximize price transparency. Post prices on the wall. Require any healthcare provider or insurers who accepts this is. You'll be talking about Big D. Yep.
- [170:28]
Big Cat
Nobody knows. Make. Make it cost something.
- [170:32]
Big T
Old Big shares. Big insurance companies accountable. Create the plan English insurance standard. Require health insurance companies to publish rate and coverage comparisons up front on their websites in plain English, not industry jargon, so consumers can make better insurance purchasing decisions. Publish cost of overhead and claim payments. Display claim dental denial rates. Okay.
- [171:02]
Arian Foster
Hey.
- [171:04]
Big T
10 years later, we got something.
- [171:06]
Arian Foster
Here's, here's the thing is health care's and health insurance is insanely complicated by nature the way that we have it set up through getting like insurance through your job and then the insurance companies, how they negotiate. It's a very complicated thing that I would like to see made simpler. But I don't know in the current state that it can be made simpler with the framework that we have in place. But there, there are elements of a plan and apparently a, a framework for a future deal. So that remains to be seen what the framework is or if the framework exists or if it's Trump saying, I'm going to try a different tactic. I'm going to guess that it's probably him just trying A different tactic right now.
- [171:46]
Big T
I love the framing of everything that he does. The big, beautiful bill, the great health care plan. Like, everything is just this grandiose idea that I have figured this shit out. Like, it's like I did this. Yeah.
- [172:00]
Arian Foster
The man understands marketing.
- [172:02]
Big Cat
It's good branding.
- [172:04]
Big T
Yeah.
- [172:05]
Arian Foster
Okay, so back to getting Florida for the low, low cost of $5 million. We got it. In 1819, Andrew Jackson was. He had fought against the Seminole Indians and in Florida, and he also fought against the Spanish troops in western Florida. He was appointed governor of Florida. He was a military governor. And then Florida became a US territory in 1822. Then it got admitted to the Union in 1845, and there was some concern as it was added because it was admitted to the Union as a slave state. But, yeah, then that's Florida, and now, for better or for worse, we got it. Texas. Big T. Have I asked you about the Six Flags over Texas before? Yeah, on the show. Did I do that?
- [172:57]
Big Cat
I think so.
- [172:58]
Arian Foster
Can you remember the Six Flags that have flown over Texas?
- [173:01]
Big Cat
Mexico, Spain.
- [173:02]
Arian Foster
Yep.
- [173:02]
Big Cat
The United States.
- [173:03]
Arian Foster
Yep.
- [173:04]
Big Cat
The nation of Texas, Republic of Texas. And. Did Portugal get in there?
- [173:14]
Arian Foster
Nope.
- [173:15]
Big Cat
I don't know the other two.
- [173:17]
Arian Foster
One would be France, the other the Confederacy.
- [173:23]
Big T
Ah, yep.
- [173:24]
Arian Foster
So it's had six governing bodies in. Was it the last 400 years? Yeah, probably 400.
- [173:33]
Big Cat
We need to go to Six Flags this summer.
- [173:35]
Arian Foster
Six Flags rocks. It does.
- [173:37]
Big Cat
There's one not too far.
- [173:39]
Arian Foster
I know it's kind of in the middle of nowhere.
- [173:41]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [173:42]
Arian Foster
Like, you're driving down a highway and then you're like, oh, Six Flags.
- [173:45]
Big Cat
Is it Gurney?
- [173:46]
Arian Foster
That sounds right.
- [173:47]
Big Cat
It's up in that area.
- [173:48]
Arian Foster
That sounds right. So. So Texas gained its own independence from Spain in the 1820s, and Mexico said, you guys, go ahead, move into Texas, because we're. We're just going to take it. And then a guy by the name of Stephen F. Austin set up shop on the Brazos river, and he got together a lot of settlers that were soon big enough to outnumber the Mexican settlers, and they started war. They started fighting. In 1836, there was a fight with the Mexican government, and Texas declared independence from Mexico. So it was kind of its own place. And then two countries that neighbored it both started to claim it. And there were a bunch of famous battles there. Santa Anna was leading the Mexican troops, and there was the Alamo, where a bunch of us. I don't want to say militia members, I guess, kind of troops. They were. They were all stationed there, including Sam Bowie. Wait, is it or Sam Bowie, The. The basketball player Bowie. Is it Jim Bowie? Who. What's. What's Bowie's first name? He invented the Bowie knife. It's not David Bowie. Sam Bowie is a basketball player. James Bowie sounds right.
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Mackenzie
Jim Bowie.
- [175:17]
Arian Foster
Jim Bowie. Yeah. Yeah, Jim Bowie. Davy Crockett was there. I actually want to. We should do an episode about Davy Crockett.
- [175:23]
Big Cat
We should.
- [175:25]
Arian Foster
Killed him a bar when he was only three. Did you know that?
- [175:28]
Big Cat
Mm song.
- [175:30]
Arian Foster
Must have been a small bear. What if it was a huge bear?
- [175:35]
Big Cat
Lived a hell of a life, he did.
- [175:37]
Arian Foster
So they were at the Alamo. They could not defend the Alamo against the. The Alamo is a massive L for the United States, but I guess they put a better fight than many people thought they would. Have you been to the Alamo, Big T. I have, not surprisingly. Small.
- [175:53]
Big T
Very small.
- [175:54]
Arian Foster
Very small place. If you're in San Antonio and you're just there, like, on a trip, chances are you've gone right past the Alamo. And you did not know that you went past the Alamo.
- [176:02]
Big Cat
That's why you need to be reminded to remember it.
- [176:04]
Arian Foster
You got to remember it.
- [176:05]
Big T
Do you remember I had a conversation with some Hebrew Israelites right outside, right across the street?
- [176:11]
Arian Foster
What was that like?
- [176:15]
Big T
They're like Super 4 at the time. They were talking about gay people, and. And they were like, it's not natural. And I'm like, well, how are you finding natural? And he goes, it's not by God. You know, God isn't. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, I define natural, but, like, in nature, like, occurring without humans. And I was like, and there's definitely homosexuality in the animal kingdom. So by definition, it's. It's natural. And the guy goes, why are you defending gays? What's that like, What's. What's with this, brother? And I'm like, you know, just walking by, having a conversation.
- [176:49]
Arian Foster
They. They're skilled debaters.
- [176:53]
Big T
Not really. Once you. Because I've watched it for a while.
- [176:55]
Arian Foster
Once you kind of break down.
- [176:56]
Big T
They have talking points. They have, like, things that they. That they go to. And once you corner them with, you know, like, logically corner. Like. Like when I said that. When he. When you said it's not natural and you do have something to define natural occurring in nature, then you realize it does occur in nature. He doesn't have anything else to go to philosophically, so he has to pivot to. What's up with you, dog? Are you gay?
- [177:18]
Arian Foster
Yeah, I'm not gay. Okay, maybe skilled isn't the Best choice of words. They are enthusiastic debaters.
- [177:25]
Big T
Very enthusiastic.
- [177:26]
Arian Foster
They love to debate. They. They really, truly enjoy it. And it's a big part of their. I don't. Could you say it's part of a big part of their religion or a big part of their culture?
- [177:36]
Big T
I think, I think their belief system mandates that they spread their interpretation of the Bible in a way that is. Is disruptive. I think. I think so. Like, like, they, they. And they use the. What I do respect about them is that they know that. They know that book. Yeah. Better than any Christian I know. Like, they know that front and back. Back. And they know that there must be.
- [178:00]
Arian Foster
A lot of study, quiet time for them, like, for such, like a loud, boisterous, enthusiastic group of debaters. They pro. They have to have a good part of their day set aside to just like, going into a room and reading the Bible.
- [178:14]
Big T
I think that that's part of. Part of it. They, they, you know, they get together and they talk about that and they study it and they, that. That's what I respect about them. At least they know the, you know, so they know what they believe in. Yeah. Don't agree with what they believe, but they know. They know that.
- [178:28]
Arian Foster
Growing, growing up in the D.C. area, we took a lot of trips to, like, the museums and the downtown mall area in D.C. going up in, in, like elementary, in elementary school, a lot of field trips. And they were a big part of the field trips. They, they love to argue with kids.
- [178:46]
Big T
Oh, yeah.
- [178:47]
Arian Foster
They will just start yelling at you. And then the teachers are like, especially if you're white. Yeah, if you're white.
- [178:52]
Big T
Yep.
- [178:52]
Arian Foster
If you're a white kid, they will get into a big debate with you. And, and then teachers are like, come on, we got lunch.
- [178:59]
Big T
Yeah. These, these crazy.
- [179:03]
Arian Foster
So with Texas, we got. We got beaten at the Alamo and then we had to retreat a little bit. But then our boys fought the battle of San Jacinto. It's probably pronounced San Jacinto, but in Texas you call it San Jacinto and the streets are. You just call it like sanjack. That's a weird thing about Austin is there's a bunch of streets that are definitely pronounced one way. And they just say, no, we're going to call it like, Guadalupe street instead of Guadalupe San Jacinto. There's a street called. Man. It's spelled Manchaka. And that just men check. You just kind of.
- [179:43]
Big T
That's.
- [179:43]
Arian Foster
I think that's a big you to Mexico. It's like we, we. We took all your Cities. So we're going to pronounce them our way and you're gonna have to deal with it. So we beat Mexico. Santa Ana was captured, and Texas became an independent republic. At that time, Sam Houston was their president, and he said, one of my first acts is going to be we should actually join the United States. So it was like, yeah, they fought for their own independence, technically, but it was a colonial expansion for the reason of bringing it into the United States at the time. And then on December 29, 1845, Texas became an official United State and it was brought in as a slave state. And then there was a bigger issue after that of the Mexican American War, and that ended up getting us even more territory, like getting California, getting Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico. That was an after effect of the independent Republic of Texas winning the war against Mexico and then becoming a part of the United States. There was also the Oregon Treaty that we had that was in 1818, and it was involving ourselves and England, Great Britain at the time, there was a big plot of land up in the Oregon area. And they had agreed, the British agreed to the United States that we would jointly Occupy Oregon for 10 years and then we'll extend it for another 10 years. So in 1838, all these agreements ran out and the Oregon Trail was popping off. And so James Polk, The President, in 1844, said, 5440 or fight. And that was talking about bringing a portion of British Columbia and Alberta into the United States, referring to the parallels on a map. And so that was his big thing. It's like, we want. We want Oregon. But eventually, cooler heads prevailed. There was no fight. The British government did not want to fight against the United States again. We'd already done the War of Independence and the War of 1812, and they said, okay, let's just do an Oregon Treaty, and that will become. That part will become fully part of the United States.
- [182:16]
Big Cat
So Oregon wasn't part of the Louisiana Purchase there.
- [182:18]
Arian Foster
I think there might have been parts of eastern Oregon that were okay, but western Oregon, western Washington was not at the time. Then there was the Gadsden Purchase. Are you guys familiar with the Gadsden Purchase at all? Familiar with his flag, The Gadsden flag?
- [182:41]
Big Cat
Is that the same guy?
- [182:42]
Arian Foster
Yeah, I think it's gotta be. I think it probably is. He was from South Carolina. He wanted a railroad, and he wanted a southern railroad that crossed into Mexican territory to go all the way to the Pacific Ocean. He wanted to avoid the Rocky Mountains, want to avoid the Sierra Nevadas, all that stuff. And so there was a. There were competing schools of thought. Some people wanted a northern route, some people wanted a southern route to the Pacific. And so the. The country was torn on which one we should do. But after the Mexican American War, there was still, like, a nebulous boundary between the United States and Mexico. And the Secretary of War, Jefferson Davis, told Franklin Pierce, buy the land in northern Mexico, get the railroad. And then Gadsden was ambassador to Mexico. He negotiated the purchase, and the US got the territory for 10 million bucks. But then the Civil War happened before they could even build the railroad.
- [183:47]
Big Cat
The flag is actually. That guy's grandfather came up with it. Christopher Gadz.
- [183:52]
Arian Foster
Okay. I would imagine that in that era, if, like, your grandfather was Christopher Gadsden, and you were at some point along the lines maybe your mom or your. Yeah, your mom's name got changed. She was a Gadsden. But then she married into someone who maybe just was some random dude with a crummy last name. I think if you have ideas about going into politics, you would take. You would take that Gadsden part out and bring it back into your name. Right. For name recognition.
- [184:23]
Big Cat
I don't know. It could have just been his dad's dad.
- [184:25]
Arian Foster
What do you think about the flag?
- [184:27]
Big Cat
It's. It's good.
- [184:28]
Arian Foster
Is it good design?
- [184:29]
Big Cat
I mean. Yeah, it's a sick design.
- [184:31]
Arian Foster
It's cool that it's got a snake.
- [184:32]
Big Cat
On it, especially from the 1800s, I mean, or 1700s, I guess, like. Yeah, that's how many graphic designs have lasted 250 years.
- [184:43]
Arian Foster
That's a good point. Like, the snake was pretty well done.
- [184:45]
Big Cat
People are still getting that tattooed.
- [184:47]
Arian Foster
Yeah. What about the come and take it flag?
- [184:51]
Big Cat
It's fine. Is that, like, a real thing?
- [184:54]
Arian Foster
That's from Texas. Yeah. It's everywhere down in Texas. It's a cannon with a star over it.
- [184:59]
Big Cat
I've seen it. I just didn't know what that's. It's from the Texas revolution.
- [185:04]
Arian Foster
Yeah. It was at the Battle of Gonzalez in 1835.
- [185:08]
Big Cat
I feel like that one lives on more as bumper stickers, whereas the Gadsden flag is. People get that tattooed on their body.
- [185:18]
Arian Foster
Yeah, I'd say that. Yeah. The bumper sticker. And you still see in flag form a lot. They come and take it. Yeah, it's more. More bumper. So you do see some down in Texas, though. But it was because we had stolen one of their cannons, one of Mexico's cannons. And so somebody made a flag out of it out of a wedding dress, which is kind of cool. That's why it's a white flag.
- [185:42]
Big Cat
I like that.
- [185:43]
Arian Foster
Yeah. So, yeah, the. The Gadsden Purchase was essentially a battle between the north and the South. So you got the railroad all the way to the West coast, south one. But then the Civil War happened, so they did not build that railroad. There's been some. Some history with us in Puerto Rico, which I guess we can get to in a little bit. There's a lot of Alaska, though. Seward's Folly. Seward's Icebox. What a dumbass. This dumb bitch. William Seward wanted to buy Alaska. He wanted to buy it from Russia, and he ended up getting the land. He. He bought it for $7.2 million in gold, and everybody just roasted him. The fake news media, the yellow press, they called it Seward's Folly. They called it Russian Fairyland Wall. Russia. President Johnson's Polar Bear Garden was another name that they. They called it in the press.
- [186:47]
Big Cat
That. That's kind of sick.
- [186:49]
Arian Foster
It is kind of cool. Like, that's. That would be one where they came up with it as an insult. And you're like, yeah, keep going. Yeah, keep going. The New York Tribune absolutely hated the purchase of Alaska. Said that Alaska was a burden, not worth taking even as a gift. Bunch of people in the Senate were not happy with it either. They said that the only way that we should get Alaska is if William Seward had to live there. And it actually was approved on April 9, 1867, by a vote of 37 to 2. And Seward was like, yeah, bitch, you're gonna call this my folly. Guess what? I'm going to retire from government, and I'm gonna move to Alaska. You want me to move to Alaska? I'll do it. I'll show you how great it is. He went up there, saw a military parade, walked the streets. Kind of got the vibe for it. He said, we see a bunch of Russians up here wearing their national colors. We see United States soldiers. We see Indians in blankets and feathers. We see the traders, the travelers. They're wearing the latest style of Montgomery Street, San Francisco up here. Call this my folly again. And then it turns out there was a lot of gold, natural resources, and oil, and it's. It's huge.
- [188:12]
Big Cat
So I. I'd say lesson in there.
- [188:14]
Arian Foster
That was a good deal. What's the lesson?
- [188:17]
Big Cat
Don't trust the fake news media.
- [188:18]
Arian Foster
Don't trust the fake news media.
- [188:21]
Big Cat
You might just strike gold now.
- [188:23]
Arian Foster
Now we can move on to some. Some fun purchases.
- [188:26]
Big T
Hawaii.
- [188:28]
Big Cat
Good deal. Maybe not. I don't know if they love It.
- [188:31]
Arian Foster
But they don't.
- [188:32]
Big Cat
It's a good deal for us.
- [188:33]
Arian Foster
They don't. Native Hawaiians typically do not enjoy the fact. I don't want to say all of them, but there's. It's still a point of discussion with them that they don't. A lot of them don't care to be part of the United States. I'll say this. If we're talking flags. The Hawaiian flag that they have right now. Not great. The native Hawaiian flag is one of.
- [188:57]
Big T
The best flags of all time.
- [188:58]
Arian Foster
An incredible flag.
- [189:00]
Big T
Unreal.
- [189:02]
Arian Foster
See that one? Yeah. The green, red, yellow.
- [189:05]
Big Cat
It's a fine flag. You're incredible.
- [189:08]
Arian Foster
I think it's a great. You don't think that's a great flag?
- [189:10]
Big Cat
That's a 6, 2 flag.
- [189:13]
Arian Foster
As far as flags go. It's. It's unique, it's colorful.
- [189:17]
Big T
It's your. America excluded. What's your. What's your top notch flag for you?
- [189:22]
Big Cat
Like Arizona's flag, I think is outstanding.
- [189:25]
Arian Foster
Yeah, I agree.
- [189:28]
Big Cat
I'm trying to think of other countries that are really good.
- [189:32]
Big T
Arizona has a nice flag.
- [189:34]
Big Cat
Canada's I think is a good flag. Like, you know, to. To what they're.
- [189:38]
Big T
Those sun rays mean something. I forget where I saw that from. Is that Japan?
- [189:46]
Big Cat
Well, Japan just has the. It's. It's supposed to be the sun. Right?
- [189:49]
Big T
They used to have.
- [189:50]
Arian Foster
I think they used to have the.
- [189:51]
Big T
Sun ray thing on it. But I think that like meant.
- [189:55]
Arian Foster
I don't want to.
- [189:56]
Big T
I want to misspeak. But I think it was like the, the kamikazes or something like that. Hold on, let me, let me.
- [190:02]
Arian Foster
As far as other national flags, they're. They're pretty much cut from the same cloth. Like if you look at a lot of them, you get three stripes.
- [190:09]
Big Cat
Honestly, colors do you want. Honestly, North America is going strong. Mexico has a good flag.
- [190:13]
Arian Foster
They do, yeah. They got the eagle on there.
- [190:15]
Big Cat
Right. Eating the snake.
- [190:17]
Arian Foster
I think Argentina's got a great flag.
- [190:19]
Big Cat
Sure.
- [190:19]
Arian Foster
That's a. That's a son with personality. Yeah. This might be controversial. I'm just talking about flags. The USSR flag was pretty cool.
- [190:36]
Big Cat
Aesthetically.
- [190:37]
Arian Foster
Only red and then a hammer and.
- [190:41]
Big Cat
A sickle conveys strength.
- [190:44]
Arian Foster
Yeah, that's a pretty. It's a pretty good flag in my humble opinion. Just talking about the flag you thought there.
- [190:53]
Big T
Okay. So. The rising sun flag from Japan. The flag was originally used by feudal warlords in Japan during the Edo period as a policy of the Meiji government. It was adapted by a war flag of the Imperial Japanese Army. It was adopted as a Naval ensign of the Imperial Japanese Navy. So it used to be flown to say, like, we're about to come fuck shit up.
- [191:22]
Arian Foster
I've got.
- [191:23]
Big T
I do. I remember that from someone.
- [191:25]
Arian Foster
I just. I just remembered that I'm wearing a shirt with.
- [191:28]
Big Cat
That's 100 flags that didn't even. Didn't even cross my desk.
- [191:34]
Big T
I've got.
- [191:34]
Arian Foster
How many. How many flags are on this shirt? Like 100. It's just all flags.
- [191:40]
Big Cat
South Africa. Good flag.
- [191:42]
Arian Foster
Good flag. I believe this is Uruguay. Uruguay, Very strong, son. I like the horizontal blue and white stripes.
- [191:50]
Big Cat
Spain. Good.
- [191:51]
Arian Foster
Good flag. Yeah. What do you think about.
- [191:56]
Big Cat
Who's the tree?
- [191:57]
Arian Foster
I think the tree. I don't want to get it wrong. It's Lebanon. I think. I think that's Lebanon. Am I right? Because there's another one that has a.
- [192:09]
Big Cat
Tree on it, I think, by the way, Colorado. Great flag also.
- [192:12]
Arian Foster
Yes, very good flag. California. Great flag.
- [192:15]
Big Cat
It's fine.
- [192:16]
Arian Foster
The Bear Republic.
- [192:17]
Big Cat
Yeah, it's. It's good.
- [192:18]
Arian Foster
The only. The best flag.
- [192:21]
Big Cat
Tennessee. Solid flag.
- [192:23]
Arian Foster
Best. Virginia.
- [192:25]
Big Cat
Isn't it a naked woman?
- [192:26]
Arian Foster
It's rated R. Yeah. It's got violence and nudity. It's a naked. A woman with exposed breast standing on top of somebody that she just murdered.
- [192:38]
Big Cat
It's on the F tier of flags on this website.
- [192:42]
Arian Foster
Well, that's.
- [192:42]
Big Cat
But it's all these that look exactly the same.
- [192:45]
Arian Foster
Well, they just don't like the blue with.
- [192:47]
Big Cat
With.
- [192:47]
Arian Foster
They're not paying attention to what's on the flag.
- [192:50]
Big Cat
Right.
- [192:50]
Arian Foster
That flag.
- [192:51]
Big Cat
It is crazy that half of the states all have virtually identical flag.
- [192:55]
Arian Foster
It's honestly kind of hot.
- [192:58]
Big T
Like.
- [192:58]
Arian Foster
Yeah, yeah. Step. Is she wearing heels?
- [193:01]
Big Cat
I'm not sure.
- [193:05]
Arian Foster
I. I think Virginia's got. Who else do they have at the top?
- [193:08]
Big Cat
The S tier is. I mean, honestly, I don't know what all these are. South Carolina.
- [193:14]
Big T
Mexico's flag is hard.
- [193:16]
Big Cat
Yeah, theirs is good. Is that New Mexico up here? What. What are these flags?
- [193:22]
Arian Foster
Okay, the Zia, that's Alaska on the left. That's New Mexico. The one with the anchor. I don't. I don't know what that is. Is that. I'm going to guess Rhode island, maybe.
- [193:34]
Big Cat
This one I've seen, but I don't remember.
- [193:36]
Arian Foster
I don't know that one.
- [193:37]
Big Cat
That's California. Colorado. Is that Puerto Rico?
- [193:41]
Arian Foster
That is not. That is the only flag that is not the standard rectangle.
- [193:47]
Big T
Oh, Jamaican.
- [193:49]
Big Cat
No, these are states.
- [193:50]
Arian Foster
Oh, Jamaica has. Jamaica has a great flag for sure. That is Ohio, my friend.
- [193:58]
Big Cat
And then that's Tennessee. Arizona. I've seen the buffalo Before.
- [194:02]
Arian Foster
What's the buffalo one?
- [194:03]
Big Cat
Is that going to be Wyoming or something?
- [194:08]
Arian Foster
Possibly Texas. Great flag. A classic.
- [194:12]
Big Cat
I don't like ones that say the name of the state in the flag.
- [194:15]
Arian Foster
Arkansas. You gotta pay for Photoshop or something, bro.
- [194:19]
Mackenzie
Wyoming is the buffalo flag.
- [194:22]
Arian Foster
Okay.
- [194:24]
Big Cat
I like the flag to speak for itself without just Montana and big ass letters. I don't need that.
- [194:28]
Arian Foster
People from Maryland love the Maryland flag.
- [194:30]
Big Cat
I was going to ask you about Maryland.
- [194:32]
Arian Foster
I, I agree that it's an iconic flag. I feel no, no stirring of my spirit when I look at the Maryland flag. They were always, you know, they're the ops, they're the neighbors.
- [194:44]
Big Cat
Sure.
- [194:45]
Arian Foster
I respect that they have a flag that they appreciate. I respect her. Their appreciation for their own flag. But I don't, I don't with it. I don't think they want me to with it either. I think it's like, yeah, we're Maryland. This is our flag. We don't even, we don't care what you think.
- [195:00]
Big Cat
Do you know the story of the Georgia flag? This one right here?
- [195:04]
Arian Foster
No.
- [195:04]
Big Cat
So when I was a kid, the Georgia flag was these same stripes, but up here it was the, it looked like the. What most people would say is the Confederate flag. Right?
- [195:14]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [195:15]
Big Cat
This, this corner up here. And eventually there was an outrage over it. You have to change the flag. What people think of as the Confederate flag, which I'm sure you probably know is the battle flag of Northern Virginia.
- [195:26]
Arian Foster
Yes.
- [195:26]
Big Cat
It was not the flag of the Confederacy. So Georgia, when they changed the flag, changed it to almost identical of the actual flag of the Confederacy and just put the Georgia state seal in it.
- [195:38]
Arian Foster
And they were, they were like, that.
- [195:40]
Big Cat
Is the actual Confederate flag.
- [195:42]
Arian Foster
Like, these idiots won't complain about this.
- [195:44]
Big Cat
Correct.
- [195:44]
Arian Foster
Because they won't do their research on history.
- [195:46]
Big Cat
Yes.
- [195:47]
Arian Foster
We're going to make it more racist.
- [195:49]
Big Cat
Yes.
- [195:49]
Arian Foster
Yeah.
- [195:51]
Big T
They doubled down.
- [195:51]
Arian Foster
Job well done, Georgia.
- [195:54]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [195:55]
Arian Foster
So they were right. I haven't heard about anybody.
- [195:58]
Big Cat
Yeah. Nobody. Nobody said anything more.
- [196:00]
Big T
Yeah.
- [196:01]
Arian Foster
It's almost like symbols have meanings that evolve over time.
- [196:04]
Big Cat
There's a. Yeah. So here it is. So there. That's what the flag used to be. And then here's what it is now. And that's the flag of the Confederacy.
- [196:12]
Arian Foster
Yeah. What percentage of people though, that you think fly the Confederate flag as we know it, the stars and bars are doing so to honor the battle flag of Northern Virginia.
- [196:22]
Big Cat
Less than a tenth of a percent. Yes.
- [196:24]
Arian Foster
I think that's probably, probably accurate. Where do we stand on the, the Minnesota Somalia flag discussion? That's been Happening.
- [196:35]
Big Cat
I mean, it's strikingly similar.
- [196:37]
Arian Foster
I. I don't think it's that similar. They both have the color blue, and they both have a star, a different kind of star.
- [196:48]
Big T
When was the flag.
- [196:49]
Big Cat
Maybe it was year or two ago.
- [196:52]
Arian Foster
Changed recently. I. I gotta be honest. Unless you're looking for it, unless you're looking for something to be upset about, I don't think that anybody looks at that flag and they're like, oh, you're making this Somalia.
- [197:05]
Big Cat
Just odd timing.
- [197:08]
Arian Foster
I get. What was the previous flag Dog. Why did they change it?
- [197:12]
Big T
Like, some.
- [197:15]
Arian Foster
It's like farmers. It's like, yeah, we used to have.
- [197:17]
Big Cat
Like, oh, this flag sucks.
- [197:19]
Arian Foster
Yeah, it does suck. We used to have illustrations on flags, and they were never really good, except for the boob shout out Virginia. I hope they never change that one.
- [197:28]
Big T
That.
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Arian Foster
But yeah, with Hawaii. So we wanted Hawaii because we. We were heavily invested out there. We wanted a foothold in the Pacific. And there were Polynesians that had lived there since about the 8th century. So about a thousand years, American traders went to Hawaii. They wanted to get some of the wood, and they wanted to sell that wood to China. And then we brought. We brought China and we brought sugar out there to Hawaii in the 1830s. And sugar became a cash crop for Hawaii in the mid-1800s. And we had a bunch of planters, missionaries, and we were setting up plantations. And there was also some pineapples that got involved later, where it became the people that ran the pineapple plant and the pineapple plantations, they said, we want this to be a part of the United States. In 1840, we put in place a constitutional monarchy which stripped the Hawaiian monarchy of his authority. And then a individual by the name of Sanford Dole was born in Honolulu. The last name, Dole, D O L E should sound familiar not just because of Bob Dole.
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Big Cat
Good stuff.
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Big T
Banana.
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Arian Foster
But because of pineapples.
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Big T
Pineapples.
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Arian Foster
Yeah, pineapples. Delicious. Yummy. So for 40 years, Hawaii had a bunch of treaties with the U.S. in 1887, we put our naval base there, moved into Pearl harbor, and we want to be able to protect the trade routes going out to Asia. And they had a new Hawaiian constitution, but there was a sister of the king who had just passed, and her name. I'm going to try to pronounce this right. Lilio Kalani. Lilio Kalani. And she was the sister of the king that had just passed away. She became queen of Hawaii. She refused to recognize the Constitution of 1887, and she wrote a new constitution for The Hawaiian natives, that was more about self government and less about partnership with the United States. And then there was a Committee of Safety that was put in place to counteract this. In 1893, Sanford Dole, the pineapple bro, he put into place a Committee of Safety, which he then used not for safety. It's like when you hear somebody give a speech about peace, it's usually because they're arguing for a war. The Committee of Safety was just to overthrow Queen Lili' Uokalani with the support of the United States. And to do so, they. They essentially kidnapped her. The United States kidnapped the Queen of Hawaii. It was more of like house arrest. So we just wouldn't let her leave her palace. She was arrested, though, and she was put on house arrest. She was forced to give up the throne. The sugar plantations, the pineapple plantations owned by Americans. They wanted closer ties to the United States and clean Queen Lili Okalani, her policies were not pro business enough. So the U.S. marines went there as part of the Committee of Safety, kidnapped her, kept her in a house and made her sign a treaty ceding control of Hawaii to the United States, which she signed. And she wrote, by the grace of God, under the Constitution of the Hawaiian Kingdom, I, the Queen, do hereby solemn solemnly protest against any and all acts done against myself and the constitutional government of the Hawaiian Kingdom by certain persons claiming to have established a provisional government of and for this kingdom. But I yield to the superior force of the United States of America, whose minister, his Excellency John Stevens, has caused United States troops to be landed at Honolulu and declared that he would support the provisional government to avoid any collision of armed forces and perhaps the loss of life. I do, under this protest and impelled by said force, yield my authority until such time as the government of the United States shall apply upon the facts being presented to it, undo the action of its representatives and reinstate me in the authority which I claim as a sovereign of the Hawaiian Islands. So essentially she said, you guys, but you're going to kill all of us. So I guess I will go along with what you want me to do, even though I don't want to. And she put that in writing. So then Minister John Stevens recognized the new government put into place by Dole the pineapple boy, and they proclaimed Hawaii to be a U. S. Territory. And then it was officially annexed. But Democrats in the Senate did not. They initially rejected the annexation of Hawaii because they're like, they don't want to be part of the United States, so we don't we don't want to have to worry about that. It's a long ways away. But then Grover Cleveland sent another envoy to Hawaii, gave the Queen back her throne. But Dole refused to step aside and he proclaimed the independent Republic of Hawaii. Fast forward a little bit and it was eventually signed over to the United States. They couldn't stop the annexation anymore. And it was signed by 21,000 Native Hawaiians or sorry, in protest. The protest was signed petition against the annexation and it was signed by 21,000 Native Hawaiians. That was more than half of the 39,000 Native Hawaiians. But it didn't really matter. And we just said, well, it's going to be ours and it's still ours. And it's a beautiful place and I love Hawaii and Kauai is one of the coolest places on earth to go visit. So that's my piece about Hawaii. Have you ever been. Eric, have you been to Hawaii?
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Big T
Of course.
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Big Cat
Pro Bowl.
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Arian Foster
It's awesome.
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Big T
Oh yeah.
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Arian Foster
That'S pretty cool.
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Big T
Mom from Hawaii too, so been there a few times.
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Arian Foster
Hawaii is beautiful. I, I wonder what the, what the kind of vibe and vibe is in Hawaii. Like how's it break down people that want to succeed right now? Because just, just from being there a little. I think I've been in Hawaii like 10 days, not a lot of time. The vibe that I got was most people don't want to be in the United States.
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Big Cat
Around 70 to 75% in recent surveys show strong support for Native Hawaiian self governance.
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Arian Foster
Yeah, that's, that's a lot of support for it.
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Big T
That's the Bible I've got talking to the people there, interacting with people there. Like I said, my baby mama's from there. I'm sure there's some Hawaiians like, no, we love the usa but most of them are like, yo, get the out of here.
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Big Cat
But here's one from 2014 that said a polls finding that 63% of respondents opposed the creation of a native Hawaiian nation.
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Big T
Okay.
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Arian Foster
It's like we don't want to be part of the United States, but also setting up our own government. That sounds like a. Sounds like a lot of work.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Arian Foster
Did you know that the United States has a presence in Cuba because of a treaty back in the Spanish American War? I guess why we have Guantanamo Bay?
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Big Cat
No.
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Arian Foster
Essentially the treaty said, we will give you a lifetime membership to Guantanamo Bay. You can build a naval base there and if you want, you can take over the country at any time.
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Big Cat
Okay.
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Arian Foster
But easier said than done sometimes, weren't.
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Big Cat
We supposed to get rid of Guantanamo like, 15 years ago.
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Arian Foster
Yeah, that was Obama's thing. I'm going to close down Guantanamo Bay. Yeah, he didn't mention. Yeah, he didn't talk about, like, actually increasing Guantanamo Bay when he was running for. He didn't talk about the drone strikes. There are a few things he missed out, probably forgot to mention as he was running. We've also got the Virgin Islands, which are beautiful, by the way, in the Caribbean. We got St. Thomas, St. John, St. Croix. We bought him for 25 million. That's a great deal. That's a great deal. Little St. James is not included in this list.
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Big Cat
Is it in that area?
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Arian Foster
I believe that's a British Virgin island. We can look that up. Well, it's owned. It was owned by one person.
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Big Cat
Right.
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Arian Foster
But I did. I went down to the Virgin Islands, like six years ago, five years ago, and the island that I stayed on, I think it was St. Thomas. I could be wrong. It might have been St. John, one of the two. You could see, like, in the distance, little St. James Island. But that was. I don't think that's a U. S. Virgin Island.
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Big Cat
Did you go?
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Arian Foster
I did not go.
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Big Cat
Okay.
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Arian Foster
In fact, I. I pointed it out. I said, go arrest the people that are on that island.
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Big Cat
Good.
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Arian Foster
If you see something, say something. And I saw it. So, yeah, still haven't we. William Seward negotiated a treaty with Denmark to get the Islands in 1867, but the Senate rejected it. You want to talk about a guy that was right about everything?
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Big Cat
Dealmaker, ahead of his time.
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Arian Foster
Ahead of his time. And in the moment, everybody was like, this guy's crazy. He got you Alaska. He tried to get you the Virgin Islands and the Senate because they didn't want him to win. They were just like, you know, anybody.
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Big Cat
But Seward, he'd have been executive of the year.
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Arian Foster
They had Seward derangement syndrome. Yeah, it's absolutely insane. So then in 1915, we. We tried to take over the islands again. They sunk the Lusitania, and Woodrow Wilson said that Germany's going to try to annex Denmark and then they'll have control over those islands. And they said if Denmark didn't sell the islands, we just might go and start a war and take them before Germany gets there. Sound familiar? It was a bullying tactic. It worked. Denmark negotiated a treaty. President Wilson signed it on January 16, 1917. And then on March 31, Denmark transferred governance of the islands to the United states, and the US gave Denmark 25 million bucks. That is. That's very similar. To the Greenland thing.
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Big Cat
So you're saying that popular derision of adding to the United States territory may eventually be viewed historically as quite foolish?
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Arian Foster
I think it has in the past, yeah.
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Big Cat
Okay.
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Arian Foster
So, I mean, in this instance, it was Denmark. They didn't want to sell us the islands. We said we might take it over by force. They're like, okay, you can have the Virgin Islands. Really? This is. This is on Denmark. I mean, they stand on business.
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Big Cat
I don't think they would have wanted that.
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Arian Foster
I don't think they would have wanted that either, especially.
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Big Cat
Although this was during World War I, which is.
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Arian Foster
They probably didn't want to have to worry about something going on half the way around the world.
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Big Cat
Yeah, but it seems like you could have. If there's any time to call our bluff, it would have been then.
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Arian Foster
Yeah, probably. We were getting involved in it at the time, too, because it was right after the Lusitania got sunk. So. Yeah, there's. There's some other examples. Puerto Rico as well. The Panama Canal, Guam, all. All areas that we have expanded to. Puerto Rico is weird because Puerto Rico have. They are US Citizens in Puerto Rico, but they're also not really represented in Congress. They get to elect their own governor, and they have their own constitution. They're technically a US Commonwealth. So I. And I think that they don't want to become part of the United States. And I think that the United States is just kind of like. I guess we technically have possession of them, but we don't. I. I don't know what's going on.
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Big T
With Puerto Rico right now.
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Arian Foster
If there's any sort of power play going on back and forth. I haven't heard much about it. If they have. We also. The United States can conscript Puerto Rican citizens into the United States. Ar. This is kind of like the one. The one thing that's kind of up. We, in theory, if we institute a draft again, we could draft Puerto Ricans into the United States army against their will, and they have to do it. But they don't have full congressional representation. They've got, I think, one person in the House that's kind of up. But they don't have voting power.
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Big Cat
Yeah, I don't know.
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Arian Foster
That would. That's a bad deal.
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Big Cat
Do you want them to be a state?
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Arian Foster
I don't feel strongly. 1. I don't think that they want to be a state.
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Big Cat
I thought they do. Do they let me for the reasons you just mentioned.
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Arian Foster
Well, I think that if. If they're eligible to be drafted into the army, they should have somebody in Congress that's like, hey, can we not do this war right? That only seems fair.
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Big Cat
Let's see.
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Arian Foster
Do put. Let me, let me ask Google real quick, see what they tell me. Part of the United States, We got bad bunny at the super bowl this year. That's pretty cool.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Big T
Babon. Babon.
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Arian Foster
There was a referendum in 2024. 58.6 voted for statehood, 29.6 voted for free association, and 11.8% voted for independence from the United States. So, yeah, that's a. That seems like a strong majority of them that want to be a state. I don't know what we're going to do. If you want these taxes, we can give you these taxes. All right, that's. That's imperialism. We've done a lot of things for a lot of reasons, really, to benefit ourselves. It's kind of how the world works. Who knows what's going to happen with Greenland? I don't know. I don't have a crystal ball to the future. But it does look like there will be framework, the framework of deal that we'll have to examine at such time as the framework is presented to us from the standpoint of legality. I always love it when Trump just throws in standpoint about something. What was that one? It's one of the wettest we've ever seen from a standpoint of water.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Arian Foster
Yeah. I mean, he was wrong. All right, we will see you guys next week on macrodosing. We will see you guys on Tuesday. Love you guys.
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Big T
Peace Sa.