Jerry & PFT Negotiations + The Tate Brothers | Mar 13, 2025

Summary

Macrodosing Episode Summary

Podcast: Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Episode: Jerry & PFT Negotiations + The Tate Brothers
Date: March 13, 2025
Main Theme:
Wide-ranging, freewheeling conversation focusing on a humorous negotiation between PFT and Jersey Jerry for DK Metcalf’s phone number, followed by candid discussions on cultural oddities, the Tate brothers’ legal saga, internet conspiracy theories, OnlyFans, and much more. Classic Macrodosing blend of earnest banter, sports, pop culture, and conspiracy theorizing.

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Main Segments Overview

• [00:00–02:15] Warmup, sponsors, cast intros, and Jersey Jerry returns to the show
• [02:15–26:00] Golf talk, Jerry's new kids’ show, children’s entertainment debates
• [26:00–43:39] Hilarious, drawn-out negotiation: Jerry wants DK Metcalf’s number
• [43:39–45:13] Andrew Tate brothers intro, handover to main episode topic
• [45:13–83:35] Jerry and crew riff: takes on the Tate brothers, hustler culture, celebrity “evil rankings,” and conspiracy rabbit holes
• [83:35–102:05] News section, OnlyFans economics, Bonnie Blue, internet culture, and more
• [102:05–148:23] Extended show about internet phenomenon, macro-level debates (sports, gangs, geopolitics, Ukraine, US foreign aid)
• [148:23–172:58] The Tate Brothers deep-dive: background, legal mess, US/UK/Romania angles
• [172:58–end] Quick takes on art vs. artist, music, Kanye, and outro banter

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The DK Metcalf Number Negotiation ([02:15–43:39])

• Jerry's Goal: Get DK Metcalf’s phone number from PFT after DK’s trade to the Steelers.
• Hosts’ Negotiation: A playful, extended bargaining session:
  • Jersey Jerry offers PFT: parking spot “in perpetuity”; mowing PFT's Chicago lawn once, shirtless; a guarantee to defend Commanders’ QB Jaden Daniels online and in his Twitter bio.
  • PFT counters: promotion of Jerry’s new kids’ show “Mr. Jerry”—organic tweet, five retweets, Instagram story, and social media follows.
  • Jerry tries to gain, but often bargains against himself.
• Memorable Moment:
  • “Why are you negotiating against yourself? ... He could've said that's for six months!” — Big T [39:00]
  • “You gotta get something else out of this deal, dawg.” – Arian Foster [41:11]
• Final Deal: Jerry gets the number in exchange for all above terms, including content obligations, shirtless lawn mowing. Both sides (except DK) claim victory.

2. Jerry's Kids Show (“Mr. Jerry”) ([02:15–12:00])

• Premise: G-rated, toddler-focused show inspired by Ms. Rachel, aiming for May release.
• Debated: Whether Jerry should lose facial hair or weight, what images work for kids.
• Test Run: Positive toddler reactions to AI-generated theme song.
• Subliminal Messages: Not in the show—but PFT jokes about seeding kids with sports takes.
• Quote: “Kids love cuddly things, bro. All their toys are fat.” – Arian [09:10]

3. Adulting and Humorous Culture Commentary

a. Defending Players & Fandom

• Jerry as a defender of underdog QBs (Russell Wilson, Kenny Pickett), volunteers to become a “Jaden Daniels Defender” online.

b. Children’s Show Structure Lore

• Tales of “bad” children’s shows (“Caillou should die in a horrible way.” – Arian [06:15]), adult-targeted jokes in kids media, G-rated comedy.

4. Bonnie Blue, OnlyFans Economics & Parasocial Culture ([83:35–96:11])

• Bonnie Blue’s Spring Break exploits and related OnlyFans income ($3M/yr claimed).
• Debate: How and whether she (and others) monetize notoriety, with discussion of what companies would sponsor her brand.
• Parasocial Relationships Explained: [91:33, Mad Dog]
  • “It's a relationship that you have with a figure online ... you feel like you know them.”
• Random highlight:
  • “That’s blue collar. Working class masturbation.” – PFT & Arian, on Jerry’s (pre-advice) no-lube habits [85:04]

5. The Andrew and Tristan Tate Saga ([44:19–148:23; revisited [148:23–166:32]] )

• Background: Accused of trafficking, sexual violence, and forming a criminal gang. United States, UK, and Romania involved in legal wrangling. Comical attention to social media stardom.
• Current Status:
  • Detained, then released in Romania; allowed to visit the US under “judicial supervision”; now subject to ongoing investigations and warrants.
  • Florida launches its own investigation, vows to pursue "criminal inquiry."
• Debate & Satire:
  • Removal from various platforms, motivational style, Jerry’s admission he bought a $120 Free Andrew Tate shirt.
  • “Sometimes I like a villain ... like a guy a lot of people hate...” – Jerry [53:41]
• Macro Take: Unanimous skepticism about their business model, legal innocence, and cultural legacy.

6. Don’t Negotiate Against Yourself ([39:00–41:10])

• Lengthy, meta commentary on Jerry repeatedly “giving away the store” for DK’s number.
• Arian's “Lawyer” Role: He repeatedly advises Jerry to ask for more.
• Memorable Commentary: “You could have been like, that's for six months!” – Big T [39:00]

7. Jerry’s “Evil People” List & Internet Conspiracies ([55:51–72:14])

• Jerry’s List:
  • Ellen DeGeneres (“Industry plant” with “devil paintings”), Hitler, Osama Bin Laden (“Hitler category”), Epstein (“bad guy”), and Instagram scammers.
  • Musings on Jay-Z, Diddy, Hillary Clinton, Rosie O’Donnell, and industry plants.
• Disney/Illuminati Conspiracies: Alleged tunnels for child trafficking in Disney bathrooms.
• Indexical Quotes:
  • “Ellen DeGeneres, she's Illuminati. I think she is one of the worst people that God has ever created.” – Jerry [57:32]
  • “I think Disney snatches kids ... tunnels” – Jerry [55:32]

8. Digressive, Absurd Adult Advice ([77:10–83:19])

• Arian offers Jerry life advice: Try baby oil for self-pleasure.
• “It takes your pleasurability to the next level. I'm just letting you know.” — Arian [78:39]
• Jerry, incredulous, promises a report back to the show.

9. Sports, Foreign Policy, and Cultural Commentary ([102:05–147:00])

• Travel basketball and age gaps (Arian’s son, competitiveness lessons), gang signs on hats, US foreign aid, debate over Ukraine funding and consequences if Russia wins.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “If you make your entire personality a politician, you're a loser. Because they don’t care about you.” – PFT [114:16]
  • “Before we get to Andrew Luck—Andrew Tate—completely different guy.” – PFT [110:04]

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

Negotiation

• “You gotta get something else out of this deal, dawg.” (Arian, [41:11])
• “You could have been like, that's for six months.” (Big T, [39:00])
• “If you slack ... when I tag you in, you have to jump in.” (PFT to Jerry, [42:16])

Jerry on Caillou

• “I think Caillou should die in a horrible way.” (Arian, [06:15])

Jerry’s Show & Gimmicks

• “Kids love cuddly things, bro. All their toys are fat.” (Arian, [09:10])
• “Well, would you like to hear the intro?” (Jerry, [05:54])
• “Should I ... Can I play it like this?” (Jerry, [05:57])
• “It's a catchy song.” (PFT, [10:05])

OnlyFans/Parasocial

• "It's a relationship that you have with a figure online or in media ... you feel like you know them." (Mad Dog, [91:33])

Culture/Conspiracy/Internet

• “Ellen DeGeneres ... Illuminati ... one of the worst people that God has ever created.” (Jerry, [57:32])
• “I think Disney snatches kids ... tunnels, tunnels, tunnels.” (Jerry, [55:32])

Tate Brothers

• “Sometimes I like a villain ... open, and transparent ... I'm not with the whole webcam girl [stuff], but his other stuff, like when he's really motivational, I like that part of him.” (Jerry on Tate, [53:41])

“Blue Collar Masturbation”

• “That’s blue collar. Working class masturbation.” – Arian & PFT [85:04]

Politics & Foreign Policy

• "If you make your entire personality a politician, you're a loser. Because they don’t care about you." – PFT [114:16]
• "Does it even matter to the US if Russia wins Ukraine?" – PFT & Big T ([133:41–135:01])
• "They can absolutely fend off Russia with our help. They have been." – Arian [132:16]

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Episode Flow & Tone

• Casual, dumb-funny, and relatable, often traversing from sports debates to deeply unserious negotiations to hyperbolic musings about pop culture “villains.”
• Insightful meta-commentary: The crew is self-aware about the ridiculousness of their bits (negotiation, media literacy, online relationships).
• Openly skeptical about internet personalities (Tates, Andrew Tate) and mainstream narratives (Ukraine war, conspiracies).
• Generous with tangents: Willing to follow any oddball topic—a hallmark of the podcast.

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For New Listeners

• This episode is a prime sample of Macrodosing’s brand: nerdy deep dives, unfiltered humor, conspiracy theory talk, and a gleefully chaotic energy.
• Even the most trivial negotiations (about a football player’s phone number) balloon into elaborate, self-defeating comedy.
• Experience the mix: from childlike wonder (Jerry’s kids show) to ribald adult humor (baby oil!), to serious sociopolitical debates and dunking on infamous personalities.
• If you like your podcasts to veer from serious to silly to surreal, this episode is for you.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Man, I'll tell you what.

[C]

When you're hungry out there, you start.

[B]

Acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game. Making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts. That's where Snickers comes in. Man, that thing is packed. Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk chocolate. It's like the MVP of candy bars. And when you bite into it, boom. It sorts you out. Get your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger.

[C]

Remember this.

[B]

Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

[C]

Snickers satisfies.

[A]

Man, That's a winning play.

[D]

Or I could send him, like, maybe my funniest moments, a type of, like, you know, something highlight reel. Highlight reel of myself. Funny. Sizzle, J.J. sizzle.

[B]

See, what he thinks was watching your highlights and inspired me to give you mine.

[A]

That is a move that I don't think has ever been done before. Like the introductory text with your own highlight. Yeah.

[D]

Also, I was thinking about it last night. When I look at DK and I look at myself, we are the exact opposites. Looks wise. I mean, he's black, I'm white. He's tall, I'm short, he's jacked, I'm fat. You know what I mean? Love, like this. Completely fast, I'm slow. We're just total opposites on everything. Big hands, small hands, big feet. Small feet, yeah. Big, bald, probably.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Welcome back to Macro Dosing. It is Thursday. It's March 13th. We're all in studio again. Aran's still in town. Big t, Mad Dog McKenzie. And we're joined by Jersey Jerry for a little bit here. Jerry, welcome to the program.

[D]

Thank you. Thank you. Nice to see you guys.

[A]

Welcome back from Florida.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Good trip.

[D]

Good weather. Yeah, good trip.

[A]

You look tan.

[D]

Yeah, I've been playing a lot of golf lately.

[B]

Yeah?

[D]

Yeah, a lot of golf. Not getting any better, but I'm Playing.

[B]

That's all that matters, man. Yeah. Yeah. We all suck.

[A]

We're just talking before the show, and I. I think we all agree that being bad at golf is more fun than being good at golf. Because if you suck at golf, it's not. Now Aran's trying to, like, wince and be like, well, no, I consider myself to be a good golfer. You're sellout. You're sellout.

[B]

No, I. I just disagree with your premise. You said it's better to be a bad. It's more fun to be a bad golfer than it is to be a good.

[A]

I stand by that.

[B]

That's. Have you ever.

[A]

Would you like to hear why?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me. Let me hear for your reason.

[A]

Because if you hit a good shot, you're like, holy, that was awesome. I can't believe I did that. If you're good at golf, you hit one bad shot and it ruins your day.

[B]

Oh, no. Yeah.

[A]

You get down on yourself. If you're good at golf, your expectations are too high. Whereas if you shoot.

[B]

I think that's. Where. Right there. That's. That's. You shouldn't have any expectations unless you're a pro player.

[A]

You're telling me that if you're like. If you shoot 90, you go out there, you hit a triple bogey, it doesn't ruin you?

[B]

No, it's like, it's up. You know, it's up and down. Like, so. Like, I shoot in the 80s usually. Sometimes I go out there and shoot some 90s and, like, it sucks, but I'm not, like, it's a. It's a good day. I'm out there with the fellas. You know what I'm saying?

[D]

What if you shoot 100, though?

[B]

I don't think I can shoot 100 anymore. No. No. That probably would piss me off. Yeah. But I don't think I could.

[A]

I don't think I could.

[B]

Like, it's just. I. I know what I'm doing a little bit now.

[A]

I could shoot anywhere between 80 and 120 and have a great day.

[B]

No, 120 and I'm. I'm breaking some.

[A]

Yeah, you're. You're probably quitting golf.

[D]

Yeah, I've had good days at, like, 1. 119, 120 around there. Yeah, I've had good days.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're on the golf course. You're outside. You're enjoying yourself.

[B]

Good day. It's a good day.

[A]

You're with the boys. Yeah, it's a good day. So. Good trip, Jerry?

[D]

Yeah. Fun. Good Trip good trip good weather. Like it?

[A]

I. I want to have you on because we got to do a little negotiation here. Yeah, but. But first of all, let me ask you about Mr. Jerry. So Jerry's got a new program that he's been working on. He's been developing it. Shooting some, I think.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Yes. Shot a shot of pilot so far.

[B]

All right.

[A]

That's not good if we. We're talking about airplanes, but it's good.

[D]

Oh, yeah, exactly. My bad.

[A]

Yeah, that's okay. We got airplanes on the brain right now. We did that flight stream last night, and Aryan had the smoothest landing. My take. I. I see Aryan land the plane. We should be hiring more former professional athlete pilots because he stepped on the stick and it was smooth as.

[D]

And you never used one before.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah, it was, uh. So, yeah, Jerry, you're working on Mr. Jerry right now.

[D]

So planning to drop in? Maybe.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

That's our plan right now. Drop in. May probably drop between like 10 and 15 episodes. We'll see where it goes. I think we're going to drop them, see where it's at.

[B]

And what's the premise? Like, what's the.

[D]

It's a just a strictly, like G rated kids show for like. For like toddlers.

[B]

Wow. So, like, lots of colors and movement.

[D]

Yes, colors, movement, songs, dances, stuff like that.

[B]

Give me like a. Like what. What's the like, give me like. Because I. Right now, my. My youngest daughter, she's obsessed with Ms. Rachel.

[D]

Think of Ms. Rachel and then. And then look at me and think of Mr. Jerry.

[B]

You know what? I can see the resemblance. No, she loves it. Like, she'll hear the intro and she just starts cheesing like, that's her. So, like.

[D]

Well, would you like to hear the intro?

[B]

I would love to hear the intro.

[D]

Should I. Can I play it like this?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, go ahead, play it.

[D]

All right. It'll take me two seconds.

[A]

What are we doing about the beard? It's.

[B]

It's.

[D]

That's the thing.

[B]

I think you could keep the beard.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

When I shave, if you're bubbly.

[B]

I. That's the thing about kids, because I'm well versed.

[D]

Very upbeat. You have to. Upbeat.

[B]

For 15 years, I've watched kids shows and I've seen the evolution of kids shows and I've had to watch them. I had to sit through them. Big fan of Disney movies. I think Caillou should die in a horrible way.

[A]

Whoa.

[C]

Why? What did he do?

[B]

Oh, he's the worst. Big T. Caillou is the worst. Yeah, I went On a rant in the NFL when I was in NFL. He is the worst kid show possible because he teaches kids to be little whiny brats. He. There's no plot. There's no. There's no movement of the story. My man's just complains the whole time. I want to go outside.

[D]

Yeah, we don't do that.

[B]

I wanna. And the whole. Is that. And I just want to smack that little. Oh, my God. Yeah.

[C]

You've probably watched it more recently than I have, but I was. I was always fond of Caillou.

[B]

You look like a grown up Caillou.

[C]

I do not.

[B]

A little bit.

[C]

I do not. But Caillou's bald.

[B]

Yeah. You grew hair. He grew up.

[A]

How do you spell Caillou?

[B]

C, A, I, L, T, R, A, S, H. Kalu. That was Caillou.

[A]

I didn't know that you thought it was Kalu. I never watched it.

[C]

Did you ever hear the Caillou rap song?

[B]

Nope. And I don't want talking about Mr. Jerry, man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Intro.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

All right, let me get it right here. I got it pulled up.

[B]

But he doesn't have to have a. He can have a beer. He's bubbly, very upbeat. Sing songy, melodic. I'm with this. You got a good personality for this. Let's do this.

[A]

Just.

[D]

Just hear the song and tell me you think of if it's catchy.

[B]

I'm gonna close my eyes. Dogs. It's already a slap.

[A]

Hey, hey, kids.

[D]

It's time to play. Every day it's a hit, right? This word.

[B]

Slaps.

[A]

Oh, big G's even swaying.

[B]

Hey, who wrote that song?

[D]

Hey AI.

[A]

It's an AI song.

[B]

Oh, you should have kept that one tucked. You should have said you.

[D]

We wrote it. Yeah, we wrote it.

[B]

There you go. Good work.

[A]

Yeah, that's smooth.

[B]

Hey, man. Yeah. You know what? That people like people, Jerry.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And you're a people guy.

[D]

Yeah. I'm trying. Just trying to work on the voice and being upbeat and stuff. It's tough. The facial hair is tough. I get that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I know that.

[A]

I was.

[B]

No. Blippi got facial hair. I'm not mistaken.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

I think you could. You could have facial hair, but it has to be something welcoming, Something that kids are going to be afraid of. Kids are afraid of weird stuff sometimes.

[D]

I think I definitely should. I should plan on losing beard, bro.

[A]

You're going to lose weight.

[D]

I think I have to lose like 10 to 15, I think.

[B]

Okay, here's another angle. No disrespect like a chubby, little, like, teddy bear vibe. Like, you know what I'm saying? That could be a little cuddly.

[A]

You might be huggable.

[D]

That might be huggable. Yeah.

[B]

Kids love cuddly things, bro. All their toys are fat.

[D]

Yeah, it's true.

[B]

But look, Blippi got a little five o' clock shadow dog.

[D]

Yeah, he does.

[A]

He.

[D]

Yeah, it's not bad.

[B]

Telling you, man.

[A]

So I like it.

[B]

I think this is a good move, Jerry.

[A]

I'm excited to see what you come out. It's coming out in May.

[D]

Plan is for May.

[B]

Let me get a few episodes. I'll play it for the, for. For my little one.

[D]

So our plan is to have a couple, like, five, ten families come into the barstool office, use the conference room upstairs, get waivers and stuff like that, and play some episodes when I'm in. And I don't. We're gonna. Before. It has to be before May, but we're gonna see how they react.

[A]

See how the episode. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Bring my little baby out here, though. Yeah, that would be funny.

[D]

See? See what they think.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I will say I, I, I, I did play the intro for a toddler randomly. A fan was, you know, at the golf course, played the intro for the toddler. Eyes lit up.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's good. Eyes lit up so good.

[D]

We'll see.

[A]

Tell you, man, it's a catchy song.

[B]

Colors and movement.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And, like, upbeatness. That's. Kids love that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And there's. There's gonna be no subliminal messages. Zero.

[D]

No, no, it can't. Because once you flirt with that, you lose that audience.

[B]

They keep the integrity of.

[D]

Yeah, it's. It's everything G rated.

[A]

But there's a lot of stuff in Toy Story and movies like that that are jokes that the adults will get if the adults are watching with the kids.

[B]

Good point.

[A]

See, now here, you're gonna be anything like that.

[B]

Enter a good one. Bluey. Yeah, Bluey has a lot of adult jokes, but it's four kids and my daughter loves Louie.

[D]

I, I mean, there's stuff I said in, like, the pilot where it's like, okay, adults will be like, that's. That's like, I'm so wet from the rain. You know, it's like, I say that.

[B]

But, like, it's regular. That's right.

[D]

You know. Okay, I think that's fine.

[A]

I think that's good. You know, I do think that you should somehow indoctrinate a couple beliefs into the kids.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But good beliefs.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

What kind of good?

[D]

Like what?

[A]

Like when you would do the episode about sports.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You're like, here's a soccer ball. Messi's the best soccer player of all time. He's really good. Here's a football. Dak Prescott is overrated. Tiger woods is so good.

[D]

Stuff like that, for sure. Yeah, yeah. No, we're gonna have stuff like that. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You gotta teach the kids.

[B]

Yeah. If you drop a little sports, little pun, funny joke like that, that'll fuck around, go viral, get more eyes.

[D]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I'm excited to see what you do with it. Yeah. Good luck.

[D]

Thank you. Thank you. This can go like I. I've said this from the jump. This is a. There's no line, I don't think. I think it's just like, home run complete miss. I don't think there's a middle ground.

[A]

To it, like Adam Dunn.

[D]

Yeah. But I'm excited to take a chance. You know what I mean?

[B]

That's what life's about.

[D]

Yeah. I'll take a chance.

[B]

That's what life's.

[D]

If it's a flop, it's a flop. What am I gonna do? Move on to the next game?

[B]

Too many people are scared to follow and chase their dreams.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Go get that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And you got quigs on your side.

[D]

Quick. Yeah. 100.

[A]

And he's a weapon.

[D]

Weapon, yes. Different. Different type of guy. He's amazing.

[A]

He's crushing it, I'm sure.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So I want to have you on the show here, Jerry, because business, my good friend. Yeah. Business is a negotiation. My good friend DK Metcalf.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Has been traded to the Pittsburgh Steelers. I love that for you, by the way.

[B]

Love it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I really do. I think that I. I'm excited to see what happens with him and Georgie. People are. Are lumping them together as being the same type of guy. I don't think they're the same type of guy.

[D]

I don't think so either.

[A]

I think. I think DK is an aggressive guy. I think when he plays football, he goes up to that line, but it's all like he. He gets pissed off while he plays, but he's just more violent. For sure. Necessarily. I mean, Georgie will start a fight.

[D]

Sometimes, but he's not violent.

[A]

Yeah, but DK is just a physical football player, and sometimes he crosses the line.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I think. I think he's all the good stuff about George Pickens and less of the bad stuff.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That he's got also. I think if you get Aaron Rodgers, he should Take Georgie on an ayahuasca trip. I think might. That might cure everything.

[D]

Everything with him. It could.

[A]

He comes back and he's just a battle citizen.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Just a great player. So DK gets traded to the Steelers, and I got his number because we text not to brag. Me and DK go back a few years.

[B]

Does he hit you back?

[A]

He did not hit me back this most recent time. But hand up. It was probably. I. I crossed the line. I was just like, hey, play for the commanders. He doesn't want to hear that. I get that.

[B]

Maybe it changed his number on you.

[A]

No, it. I think it's still blue.

[B]

It's blue.

[A]

I think it's still blue.

[D]

You're good then.

[B]

You're good. Maybe somebody else got the number and also got an iPhone. True. I'm playing. I'm playing devil's advocate to the.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. No, it's still blue.

[C]

I don't want to listen. I wasn't. I wasn't looking, but I happened to see it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Seems there was a double text before that that also wasn't responsible.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The double text should have been one text. It was the same sentiment. It was. It was at the last minute when I was down at Ole Miss, and I said, hey, dk, I'm at the library tonight with my band. Let me know if you would stop by.

[B]

Come.

[A]

Come sing a song on stage with us if you want.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

Yeah. No response from Light a Ghost.

[D]

Sorry.

[B]

Right there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

So now we're on two.

[B]

We're on two and.

[C]

Well, we're on three.

[B]

We've had two, and the next one you send. I. I'm sorry to tell you this.

[A]

Yeah, it's thirsty. It's thirsty. Well, if I send the next one, it's got to be.

[B]

It's desperate. I gotta be. Any next text.

[A]

It's got to be something for him.

[B]

No, no. Any next text is desperate because now he's looking at his thread. He's like, I can talk to this dude in the last two.

[D]

How about a call?

[B]

That's even worse, Jerry.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. You took it to the.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[A]

That's how Jerry operates. Jerry. I like it. I like the idea.

[B]

FaceTime.

[D]

Some Steelers players will FaceTime me. Like. Like, Nick Herbig last week just FaceTimed me.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

He's like, what's going on, Jerry?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Hanging out, playing video games, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The players like Jerry. I. I think next thing, I hit him up. Has to be something for him. Last two have been about me.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And the next one, he. He responds to me when it's about him. You know, when I'm like, more about him than you. When he makes a funny joke and I'm like, that's funny. He'll be like, yeah, I was in my bag on that one.

[B]

He'll. We'll.

[A]

He likes that more.

[D]

You've hung out with him before?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay. That's cool.

[A]

A couple times. All work related.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I think we might have hung out one time. At a Super Bowl. At a Super bowl party. But anyways, regardless, Jerry's a big Steelers fan. We all know this. You dk, you wished for DK to be a Steeler last year.

[D]

Last year, yeah. You seen a tweet?

[A]

Yeah, I saw the tweet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think he looks good, and I do, too. Black and black and yellow. So I got his number.

[B]

Top three uniform in NFL history.

[D]

I think so, too.

[A]

What else is up there?

[B]

I think the Oakland home jerseys. And then number one would be the Houston Oiler throwbacks. You know what? And go ahead and throw it in there, too. Kelly Green.

[A]

Yeah, those are great. Come on, Big T. What do you think about that list?

[C]

Falcons throwback? Oh, the black.

[B]

Yeah. I don't think it cracks those four, but. Yeah, I think I would throw that in five. Yeah. Okay. I'll throw that in a five.

[A]

I think it depends who's wearing it, too. If it's Dion. Yeah, it looks awesome.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So. So Jerry would like DK's number, and I'm willing to negotiate because I have a pretty big chip here.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That you want. So do you want to start, or should I start?

[D]

No, you start.

[B]

He's giddy over here.

[A]

Okay. How do you. How do we feel about having more kids? You gonna have more kids?

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Naming rights.

[D]

No, out.

[A]

Out on naming rights or this negotiation.

[B]

Well, hold on. Let me. Let me. Let me. Let me interject.

[C]

What about middle.

[B]

Don't. Don't. Don't cut out the possibility of him throwing out a good name. Because I've. I. I was all set on a name, and then. And then my mom introduced a name, and I was like, that's the name. So don't make it a definite notice. Be like you. You have an. You're. You're a variable.

[D]

Well, the thing is, like, having kids is a process. What happens if I can't have kids? More kids? You know what I mean? Like, yeah, the deal is dead. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah, but that. That's the reason I already have a number by then.

[B]

Okay. That's also.

[D]

Yeah. Do I get the number?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, you get the number.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Before.

[A]

But it's a. It's an agreement.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Naming rights.

[D]

Okay. So that could be in play. That could be in play.

[A]

Like this negotiation. That's called anchoring.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Didn't know that.

[D]

Money is out. Out on money. No money value here.

[A]

No, we're committed to no money value.

[D]

Yes. Only because I'm in the process of redoing a certain part of the house that's going to set.

[A]

Couple years, we could do part of the house install. I don't want your money. It's okay. I'm not going to ask you for money.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

What about your parking spot?

[D]

Completely on the table. Easy on the table.

[A]

You're willing to give up your parking spot?

[D]

Easy on the. Yes. An illegal spot.

[C]

Where do you park?

[D]

JJ in the handicap.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're willing to sacrifice that 100%.

[D]

What if.

[A]

What if it was just. You're not allowed to park there?

[B]

Fair.

[D]

I'm okay with that.

[A]

We leave it vacant, so every morning you're gonna have to drive past it.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

And there's a spot, right? I'm not gonna park there. Okay, but you're not allowed to park there.

[B]

Put a little science. Not Jerry.

[D]

I don't want to, but I can get behind that.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

I can get behind that. It would suck, but I can get behind that.

[A]

Executive producer for Mr. Jerry.

[B]

This might be a.

[A]

Like, you know how in Law and Order it says Dick Wolf?

[D]

Yeah. At the end you're talking about.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, I mean, that might be a play. Just in a positive direction anyway.

[D]

Do you. Do you have to make decisions?

[A]

No, no. Executive producer. You don't do.

[D]

Only thing I worry about is taking away credit from Quigs.

[A]

Okay. Is he executive producer?

[D]

Yeah, I think he's like. It's like a one stop shop.

[A]

So it's just you and Quigs?

[D]

Yeah, it's just me and Quigs.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Two stops.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

What if it just ended saying executive Producer Dick Wolf?

[B]

That would be funny.

[A]

You're not familiar with Dick?

[D]

Who's Dick Wolf?

[A]

He's the. He is. God.

[B]

Executive producer of Law and Order.

[D]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So at the. At the.

[D]

But we can't use his name.

[A]

W U, L, F. What if we spelled it different?

[D]

Oh, okay.

[A]

I. Just Something I'm throwing out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

See, it sounds like you're.

[D]

I'm leaning towards a parking spot right now. Okay.

[A]

Giving up your parking spot.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. You have any. Any other things that, like, you would give up? What would you do to get DK's number?

[D]

Okay.

[A]

What would I do?

[D]

I. Would you have. You have grass at your house or is it turf?

[A]

It's turf, yeah.

[D]

Okay. Any type of labor. Labor. Things you need at the house, I actually do have.

[A]

I didn't realize this when I moved in, but that strip between the sidewalk and the street in Chicago, you got to mow that. I didn't know that. I thought that was city.

[D]

Yeah. Where the sidewalk is on the opposite side of the sidewalk.

[A]

Yeah. I thought the city took.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no. That's, that's yours.

[A]

The city also. They, they plant stuff out there sometimes.

[D]

Correct.

[A]

Like, they'll plant, Plant a tree. So I assumed they also landscaped it. So after two months of living in Chicago, the grass just grew really high. And I was like, when they're going to come out here and mow this lawn?

[B]

No.

[A]

And my neighbor, I was talking to him, and he was like, yeah, if you guys need to, you know, if you gotta borrow my lawnmower, you can do that. And I was like, oh, this is a, A real subtle way of letting me know that my lawn's out of control.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which I respect, but no, I'll get it. So you would, Would you mow that strip?

[D]

I could do that. You have turf, so you probably don't have any landscaping, like plants or anything like that, Right?

[A]

I've been, I've been thinking about putting some plants in, though, because I got turf in the backyard, but there's, there's like a mulch area around the turf.

[D]

Down to plant them, water them. I'm down to do that.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Any type of little things in the house you need, you know, I can clean. I'm a good cleaner.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't usually clean my house.

[B]

You can make it feel good.

[A]

Yeah. What about my roof? I'm thinking about doing something different with the rooftop this summer.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Maybe putting some, Some decor up there.

[D]

Okay. Like hanging up.

[A]

Hanging.

[D]

Do you, do you. Is it, Is it open? Is it like a, you know, I'm talking about the, the wood, where it's going like this, this, this. Is it open?

[A]

Yeah, it's open.

[D]

Okay, cool. Like, Like a pergola, I'm talking about.

[A]

Yeah, I got one of those up there.

[D]

Okay. But there's nothing where you can close it, right?

[A]

No, it's all open.

[D]

It's all open. Okay. So you're thinking about, like, hanging some stuff from there, something like that, Some lights or anything like that.

[A]

Yeah, I, I, I haven't really put Much thought into it, but I want to do something different with it this summer.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

So. Okay.

[D]

So I'm a big fan of the pergolas.

[B]

I got one. Yeah.

[A]

Would you do to it?

[D]

So this one is metal and it is. You can leave it open or you can close it. Like with a. You just turn it and just closes.

[A]

Okay. How do you feel about having an.

[D]

NFC team like me rooting for another team?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like a second team.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

No.

[A]

Absolutely not.

[D]

No.

[B]

This out.

[D]

No. Yeah. 100. You can't.

[A]

You can't have. You can't have a favorite team in the nfc.

[D]

Well, you know, I rooted for the Commanders last year. I rode with you. I rooted for them.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I wouldn't call them my second team. There's no such thing as a second team, but I rooted for them. I wanted to see you win. You know, I bet them, but like, you know, that's always. I'll always have your back with that.

[A]

Stuff, but I can't. I can't buy your allegiance to them for every game that doesn't impact the Steelers next year.

[D]

Okay, so you're talking about me betting them?

[A]

Not necessarily betting them. Well, I guess I. I probably would be because I don't think that you'd be rooting for them if you weren't betting on them.

[D]

Correct. Or is it something that I have to bet them every week?

[A]

How about this? You're very. You're very, very good, Jerry, at being a defender of players that you love.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

That you care deeply about.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like anybody comes after Russie.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

100 shit list.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Even when Kenny Pickett was on the Steelers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Anyone came after Kenny shit list. What if. What if you become a Jaden Daniels specific defender like you? You're always on the lookout for slander against Jaden.

[D]

Okay. I like where we're going here, so.

[A]

I like that anyone talks about him. I'm counting on you to be on the front lines responding to that.

[D]

I. Yeah, I love that. Love that. I could even put it. I'll even throw you a bone. I'll put it in my bio. Maybe number. I know number one Rusty Riders in the bio, but I could put number two, J.D.

[B]

Rider.

[A]

Yeah, I like that. I think that's actually. That's more valuable to me than maybe anything else.

[D]

I like that.

[A]

Because we got to get soldiers in this. It's about to be war. First year with a good quarterback. It's, like, cute. It's fun. People like the guy. It's fresh. They're rooting for him. Second year, he starts to make some enemies.

[D]

Oh, yeah. 100.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Game tape gets watched in the off season, and they develop game plans against him.

[D]

I mean, you guys are loading up, too. You guys. You guys are making some moves.

[A]

I like. I like the Laramie Tunsil.

[B]

I like that move, too. Yeah. Yeah, He's. He's a really good player.

[D]

He is very good.

[A]

All right, Jerry, I'm willing to give you DK's number.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

In exchange for you giving up your parking spot.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I'm not going to make you mow my. My lawn because, honestly, I don't think that you do it.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I mean, let's be honest.

[D]

I mean, if. Like, once a week during summers, it would be right. Like a. One day a week during the summer.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, we live far from each other.

[B]

Like two, once every two. How does the grass grow out here?

[A]

I'd say probably once every week, week and a half.

[D]

And we do live far. We live about. Probably over an hour.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. I would like Jerry to mow my lawn. I think it's a very generous offer, but I just don't see that being realistic.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you're gonna be traveling. I might be traveling.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And you're gonna leave work, and your house is a long way away. You're gonna want to get home. You're Re modeling your. You're not going to want to stop off and do a chore on the way home.

[B]

Right?

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Let's be. Let's be honest.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would. It would. It would. It would suck. I would put it that way. It would suck because, you know, things can happen. I can travel for something, for foreplay or, you know, you're not around, or we. You know, we. Summer actually isn't that bad, but I say that to myself every year. And we're just so busy during the summer.

[A]

Yes. So I think that's unrealistic. So I'll take that off the table.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

So parking spot.

[A]

Parking spot.

[D]

Mm.

[A]

Jaden Daniels. Defender in bio, too.

[D]

In bio, too.

[A]

In bio. On. On one social media platform.

[D]

Okay, cool. I'll put on Twitter.

[A]

On Twitter. Okay. That's number two. And then I wanted. I'm not gonna do the next porn Child. That was just a negotiation. Okay, Gotcha. Although I feel like if you name. If it was a boy, and you named him Jerome, and they called your boy Jerry, but he wasn't Jerry junior. That'd be funny. But we won't do that. We won't do that. So I'm willing to say parking spot and Jaden Daniels, defender.

[D]

And at any point you see tweets out there and I don't say something, you're on my ass.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Jj, pick it up.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

And so what that entails is I want you to be proactive. I don't want to be hounding you for it. But if I notice that you're slacking, I'll remind you. And if I see something that's bad that somebody's saying, I'll tag you in online.

[D]

I love that.

[A]

And I'll just be like, CC Jerry the Kid, 21.

[D]

Perfect.

[A]

And then you have to just dunk on this.

[D]

I like. I like where we're going. So I need to. I need to start following some commander's accounts now, right?

[A]

Yeah. But you won't see too much slander coming from those, but you'll get some good stats from them.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I'll forward a couple.

[D]

Yeah, forward a couple to me so I could at least follow it.

[A]

Okay. And another thing. Yep.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I want. I want you to mow my lawn one time.

[D]

Done. You have a lawnmower or you need me?

[A]

I got the lawnmower.

[D]

Okay, done.

[A]

Just one time. A time of my choosing.

[D]

Fair. Okay.

[B]

But we'll.

[A]

We'll be fair about it. If you're very busy.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

If you're gone, like, I understand, but you just.

[D]

You just want the video.

[A]

I just want the video of Jerry mowing my lawn. Okay.

[D]

Shirtless. Shirt off.

[A]

Shirtless.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Oh, why'd you. Why'd you give that up?

[A]

That was good. That was, well, negotiation.

[D]

Yeah. It's probably bad idea. All right, that's fair, though. That's understandable.

[B]

All right. It was a great negotiation. I have a question about this whole thing. Has DK consented to his.

[A]

Absolutely not.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[D]

Can you get sued for that?

[B]

Not soon, no. But he's definitely not answering your text now.

[C]

No, but he. Now that he's in the Steelers family, He's heard about JJ maybe not yet. Someone. I don't think it's about OTAs.

[B]

It's not about him. Yeah, right. I think. Yeah, that'll be cute. Like, okay, he's in the Steelers family. Me. I'm talking about him. Like, oh, this dude. This dude. Well, dude. To get my number out without consent.

[C]

Well, clearly, DK doesn't like him that much.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. It's. He's putting even more.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Fodder.

[A]

No, I fully expect after this handoff, I'm. I'm excommunicated from dk.

[D]

So what happens if. Okay, so if I text him and he's like, who. Who is this? And I'm like, hey, my name is Jerry. I work for Bar Soul. Is he. You think he'll know right away that you gave him my number?

[A]

Yeah. So we got to figure out a graceful way to execute this transition.

[D]

What about a group text that I.

[A]

I don't know if that's the way to go, because, like, Big T pointed out he hasn't gotten back to me the last two times.

[D]

I think you just. If I was in your situation, I just would hit him with the text, be like, hey, are we still boys or what? Like, I've never said anything bad about you.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, you haven't answered my last two tests.

[A]

We got to do. Here's the best way.

[B]

You give off, like, when you break up with people, that you might go a little crazy.

[A]

I think this is what we do. You got. Do you got TJ's number?

[D]

You know, I haven't asked for the number, only because he. We communicate all the time through Instagram, and he's very quick with his responses. I'm the same way.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

We have that dialogue on Instagram, DMs. And we were just talking the other day.

[A]

Okay. Because I'm trying to think of a third party we could bring in onto a potential group text where I'm like, hey, dk, what's up? Pft from Barstool. I got a massive Steelers fan. Jerry here wanted to introduce you. He will be a dog, and he'll defend you to the death. You need anything, you talk to Jerry.

[C]

But then you're.

[B]

But.

[A]

But having another Steelers player on that message that will vouch for you would be important.

[D]

So I think the only. The only guy I can think of right now would be. It has to be an offensive guy. I don't think it could be defensive guy, because what I've learned, being a fan and friends of some of these players, there's not a whole lot of, you know, offense and defense talking a lot, hanging out a lot. You know, it seems like. I don't know, it's, like, weird. From the stories I've heard and you know what people have said, it's like, they're usually closer with the offensive side of the ball.

[B]

Yeah. A lot of the times what happens is it's where your locker rooms are set up, so you lock your locker. The DBs are with the DBs. You know what I'm saying? Some locker, some. Some Teams, like. Well, they just, like, randomize it, but for the most part, like, receivers, receivers, backs with backs. Just to familiarize yourself with the people you most. Because, like, when you're in a film room with them, you spent hours upon.

[D]

Hours with these people, with those people. Because I've noticed, like, off season, TJ Watt will be working out with Nick Herbig. Pat Friarmouth will be working out with the receivers. And Najee Harris when he was a Steeler. You know what I mean? You'll see them together and groups and stuff like that.

[A]

Do you have Rusty's number?

[D]

Never got Russ's number. No. Never. I. Plus, also, I don't. I don't feel like Russ is a guy that.

[B]

Which number do you have?

[D]

Steelers players. I got Pat Fryermouth. I have Nick Herbig's number. I have. Used to be on the Steelers. Mason Rudolph had his number. That's three. No, receivers never had Naji's number.

[C]

Not TJ.

[D]

No. No TJ's number. No, no, no.

[A]

You know what I've got? I got Aaron Rodgers number. What if I just do a big group chat? That way I'm doing DK a favor, too, where I'm like, hey, here's your new quarterback's number.

[D]

Maybe. What about if. What about if. If I just put myself in a group text with Rogers and DK Metcalf.

[A]

You just jump in right away and.

[D]

Be like, what is going on? What's the deal? Is this happening or what? I'm the number one Steelers fan. Like, come on.

[A]

That's actually maybe the best way to do it.

[D]

It's just me. Group text with them. Yeah, like, how'd you get my number? Like, hey, dk. What's up, Aaron? Jersey Jerry.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Let's get this done. Yeah, but, like, also, I don't want you to come out looking like a scumbag, you know, I think I'm probably.

[A]

Being a scumbag in this situation. I'm comfortable with that.

[B]

Like, I'm.

[A]

I'm auctioning.

[B]

He's using a private number as a bargaining yes.

[A]

In this instance, I'm being a scumbag.

[D]

Well, the thing is, this is, like, okay for Aaron Rodgers. He's been on pmt, right? Do you plan on having him on again at some point?

[A]

Probably.

[D]

That might not happen after this.

[A]

I think he'll be okay with it.

[D]

You think so?

[A]

Yeah, I don't think. I don't know. He did tell Schefter to lose his number, bro. He hasn't told me that.

[B]

Chef is all serious, though. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And he's more of like, he wants to scoop guys. You guys are more like, ah, let's. Let's create a moment.

[A]

But I did try to scoop Aaron Rodgers running for vice president last year.

[B]

But was that serious, though?

[A]

He was thinking about it.

[B]

No, I'm talking about you and your quest.

[A]

I wanted to be the first to say it.

[B]

Yeah. Well, then, yeah, you might be.

[D]

Or when's the last time you talked.

[A]

To Rogers through text? So Aaron Rodgers. I've. I texted him one time and it was, hey, Aaron, you should run for vice president. Heard you're considering it. Just because I wanted to get him to say that he was considering it and no, no response to that.

[D]

Okay. I. I think.

[B]

Sounds like you get ghosted a lot, man.

[D]

I do too. It's okay. It's fine.

[A]

I mean, that. That was. You have to admit, like, that's a shot in the dark. Texting Aaron Rodgers. He's never texted with you before. You got his number or.

[D]

I gotta weigh in. I got an idea. I. They don't have my number, obviously. I put him both in a group text and say, what's up, boys? You guys ready to work? Or something like that meeting. This time it's happening. Rogers is coming to bed.

[A]

So do we wait until Aaron Rodgers goes? Because if he doesn't go, then.

[B]

So you can play like in some Steelers front office guy.

[C]

Yeah, no, it needs to be before.

[A]

Before you think before.

[C]

Because once he's on the team, they'll all talk to each other. J.J. needs to be the. The goat.

[D]

Let's have a meeting. Let's have a meeting.

[A]

You're gonna try to set up a.

[B]

Meeting.

[C]

Talk business wise.

[A]

Let's have lunch.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Let's get this thing over the line.

[D]

I don't know. I don't know which way we play it.

[A]

It's tough.

[D]

This is.

[B]

This is hilarious. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I. I could just give you his number and then you figure out how to make the intro with dk.

[D]

Yeah, well, I already have an in with dk. I'm friends with his agent, his manager.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Great. You just wanted a more long.

[D]

No, like, like I. I feel uncomfortable asking his agent for the number. I. I'll have no problem meeting up with dk.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

I just don't want to be the guy to ask for the number. You know what I mean?

[C]

Tell me if this is too aggressive. We go out in the gym, we film a little highlight. A highlight tape of JJ doing routes, catches. Be like, hey, dk. Really excited to have you. Looking forward to seeing you do this out there on the field for us. And then you send. You send. That is like a. Like a funny introduction of Jersey Jerry to dk.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Or I could send him, like, maybe my funniest moments, a type of, like, you know, something.

[A]

A highlight reel.

[D]

Highlight reel of myself. Funny. Sizzle, J.J. sizzle.

[B]

See, what he thinks was watching your highlights and inspired me to give you mine.

[A]

That is a move that I don't think has ever been done before. Like the introductory text with your own highlight. Yeah.

[D]

Also, I was thinking about it last night. When I look at DK and I look at myself, we are the exact opposites. Looks wise. I mean, he's black, I'm white, he's tall, I'm short. He's jacked, I'm fat. You know what I mean? Well, like this, the complete. He's fast, I'm slow. We're just total opposites on everything. Big hands, small hands. Big feet. Small feet.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Big dick. Small dick.

[A]

Probably. Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Be sure to mention that in the text.

[D]

No, no, no.

[A]

I. I like the idea of you send him a video.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

And also with the text along with the video, be like, hey, I know your agent familiar with this guy. I want to welcome you to Pittsburgh. I'm the number one. Pittsburgh. I'll let you figure that out.

[B]

Yeah, I don't.

[A]

I don't want to tell you how to do your job.

[D]

What if he says, hey, lose my number. How the. You get my number? Who the Is this? I don't give a. Is he like that. Is he a mean guy?

[B]

I don't even. That wouldn't even be mean. That would be. You gotta think from his perspective.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

If you were. If you were in the NFL, right? You're in your prime, and you get a random, random message like that. What are you doing? Are you just.

[B]

It depends on who it's from.

[C]

Like, if it say it's from Jersey, Jerry.

[D]

Or a fan. Yeah, whatever.

[B]

If it's. If it's a fan, I'm blocking instantly.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

If it's. If it's like somebody at ESPN or, like a, you know, more traditional, like, sports network, I'll probably ignore or network, depending on who it is. Like, that happened. Somebody's like, hey, I got your number, so and so. And I'll be like, okay, that's what's up. And then they would. They. They. Because usually when people do that, they just want scoops. Hey. Hey. Just wondering. What. What's Going on with Bubba, you know, because they want first and I don't. I didn't never ask.

[D]

I don't want to be that guy that looking for scoops. So if, If.

[B]

If I'm aware. Because I'm dk. Been on your show. Right. So, like, then he's probably aware of the Barstow universe and how it's like a lot of satire. And if he's aware of that and he knows who you are, it's like, okay, it's funny.

[D]

I just don't think there's a chance he knows who I am at all.

[B]

Really. I mean, I wouldn't.

[C]

Familiar with barstool, though.

[A]

Yeah, we're not. We're not huge in Seattle. I would say that that's. But I mean, not to say that there aren't a bunch of listeners out.

[D]

There but his age. His agent follows me. I follow him back on Instagram. I mean, maybe he's been on and his. His agent probably has reposted one of my stories or funny clips on his story. You know, maybe he's seen it through that or. I don't know.

[A]

All right. I like the idea of an introductory video, though.

[B]

Yeah, I like that.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Like that.

[A]

You want. You want to film a new one? Something new. Some personal for dk, Maybe a little personal.

[D]

Yeah, I like. I like to meet him on a personal level.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think. Just saying, like, I. I like the.

[B]

I'm complete opposite of you sweatband gloves.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And then maybe do like one sick catch.

[D]

Yeah, Like a blindfold.

[A]

No, look.

[C]

Yeah, that should be the opener. Yeah, you open on. On jj Making a nice toe drag.

[A]

I like. I like the blindfold. Yeah, you think?

[D]

Just run a slant and then just hopefully we'll do like a million takes. Hopefully I catch one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You think Quiggs could work on maybe putting together a sick edit of it if it's just like a ten second.

[D]

Yeah, Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so.

[A]

Okay. All right, let's do that.

[D]

And then.

[A]

And then when you make the video, then I'll transfer the phone number.

[D]

Love that.

[A]

And.

[D]

And what's the. What's the final deal? It's parking spot.

[A]

Parking spot. I get your parking spot.

[B]

Mo.

[A]

Lunch. I will not park in. Yep. Lawn mowing one time.

[D]

And this is in perpetuity, by the way. The parking spot.

[A]

Yeah, Perpetuity.

[D]

Okay, Gotcha. Okay.

[A]

Perpetuity.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Why are you negotiating against yourself? Yeah, you could have been like, that's for six months.

[A]

Shirtless lawnmower.

[D]

Fine. Shirtless lawnmower. Cool.

[A]

And then Jane Daniels, defender in bio as well. In bio.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

And. And the terms on that are if I tag you into something, you have to.

[B]

You gotta get something else out of this deal, Doc.

[A]

You don't have to be proactive. And I'll. I'll let you off the hook on that shirt.

[B]

Yeah. Raping you right now.

[D]

Oh, for a phone number? For a phone number.

[A]

You think this is gold? This number is worth its weight, J.J.

[C]

I bet he'd give you like 500 bucks.

[A]

Some. Something.

[B]

Maybe not even.

[D]

I think the phone number is worth it.

[B]

It's worth more than 5.

[C]

What is the monetary value of DK Metcalf's phone number to you?

[A]

Can't put a price on that.

[D]

I don't know. 2500, 2000?

[C]

Oh, that's not that. I thought you would have said more than that.

[A]

So in other words, you would pay me 2500?

[D]

No, the number, probably.

[B]

Jerry, you gotta get something else out of this deal. No, no.

[A]

Aryan. Aaron, stop. We reached a deal. As gentlemen.

[B]

He is.

[C]

He could be.

[B]

He's at this negotiating table without a lawyer, without representation, and I'm.

[D]

I don't think it's a bad.

[A]

So am I.

[C]

He could be gaining a friendship with DK Metcalf. That's worth more than anything.

[B]

That's great. You can get that. And then in something in addition. I'm just saying what you. You've ca. Everything except for this is a good. The Dick Wolf and naming your job.

[A]

It's a good deal. Number one, you get. You get a piece of content out of it with the introductory video that you send a DK Metcalf 100% big.

[C]

T's idea, by the way.

[A]

Number two, you're gonna get some content out of it. Mowing the lawn shirtless, 100%. That's gonna be great. And then number three, are you on.

[B]

A press run for your show? Oh, what press run? Like, are you.

[D]

What does that mean?

[B]

Like, you go on different shows promoting.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Eric just hit me up today and was like, hey, come on.

[B]

I think you do that within the Barcelona University and you get a spot on pmc.

[D]

Yeah, maybe. Like, See, like, I don't know.

[B]

That's.

[D]

I think, for everybody.

[B]

Content for them, content for you.

[A]

How about this?

[B]

Pushing the show.

[D]

I think people would be pissed because they're there for sports.

[A]

I will. I will retweet the first five episodes.

[C]

That's big.

[D]

Okay, okay, six.

[C]

What about. Hey, hey, what about this? What if we. I think we need I think we need an organic tweet, not a retweet.

[A]

Okay, there will be one organic tweet.

[C]

Let's do three and three.

[A]

No, no. One organic tweet and then five retweets.

[C]

Retweets two and four. Okay. Middle.

[D]

Not only Twitter, I need the. I need a store. Not your personal story. Just eventually we're gonna have Mr. Jerry account. You just. From the clip, just put it on your Instagram story.

[A]

On my story. Okay.

[D]

No post, just story.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

They go away after 24 hours.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Deal. Cool.

[D]

And a follow on the account.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Of course. Goes without saying.

[D]

See, I'm getting stuff. I'm learning.

[B]

All right, Done.

[A]

Okay. So to finalize.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

I get your parking spot.

[D]

Correct.

[A]

Which I will not park.

[D]

In perpetuity.

[A]

In perpetuity. I get you.

[B]

I gotta look up perpetuity.

[C]

Mow the lawn forever.

[D]

Forever.

[A]

Mow my lawn one time shirtless. And I also get the third thing. Jaden Daniels, defender In the bio as well. In the bio. Every time.

[D]

You worship her. You like that?

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Like that?

[A]

Yeah. Every time I. I tag you on something, you have to jump in.

[D]

Correct.

[A]

All right. If you slack once or twice, not finding on your own, that's fine, whatever. But when I tag you in, I gotta be there. And I want to see a little bit of proactiveness from you, too. Like if. If I notice something big going on.

[D]

Yeah, if something. Somebody puts about a top 10 quarterback list and he's not on it. I'm right there.

[A]

Yeah, you're right there. Yeah, you're right in the ticket.

[D]

I know what you mean.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

In exchange for that, you get DK's number.

[D]

Correct.

[B]

I see what you're doing with that one. Spreading propaganda. And I like it.

[A]

Yes. You get. You get one organic tweet promoting Mr. Jerry.

[D]

Correct.

[A]

And you get five retweets promoting Mr. Jerry. And you get one Instagram story. Post about Mr. Jerry and follows to Mr. Jerry across social media platforms.

[D]

Instagram story.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Deal.

[A]

Love that. You want to shake on it?

[D]

Yeah, let's do it.

[B]

Beautiful.

[D]

Done. Great deal.

[A]

Great deal.

[C]

Let's go negotiate.

[A]

Pleasure doing business.

[D]

Thank you, boys.

[B]

Everybody wins except dk. This is lovely.

[A]

All right, Jerry. Once we get that video and ready to send to him, you get the number.

[D]

Done.

[B]

I doubt.

[A]

Guys, I was. I thought that was pretty good.

[B]

It's not bad.

[A]

Aaron, you're a good friend.

[B]

Yeah, man, I.

[A]

You had to. You had to step in there and represent him.

[B]

I'm just fair, man. I Feel like he was, he was, he was, he was taking him across the coals.

[A]

Well, to be fair, he was unfair to himself.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

He was like, shirtless, shirt on or something. You gotta get something, though. Let's set the ground rules. I'll mow your lawn. But most importantly, we're all wondering, am I gonna be shirtless?

[C]

Yeah, he really, he was negotiating against.

[E]

Person to get information out of. So, yeah, he just.

[C]

Well, I'm not allowed to say who it is. He's a bald guy, lives in Chicago.

[E]

He works at Apple top 40.

[A]

I should have gotten his take on the. The Tate brothers bring him back. So, yeah, can we get the crew together and head off to the course in the new 2024 Chevy Traverse with impressive cargo room, three room seating, and the first ever Z71 trim Traverse.

[C]

Can handle your buddies and their golf bags with ease.

[A]

Chevrolet together.

[D]

Let's drive.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So today's episode is going to be about the Tate brothers. We're going to dive into them. The case against the Tate brothers. They're back in the United States right now and facing investigations, still facing criminal charges overseas. So we'll talk about that. But I know that Jerry has a take about that big T. What do we got on the list today on the newsmakers list?

[C]

Have you seen who's tearing it up in Cancun for spring break?

[B]

No pun.

[A]

I did see that. Yeah.

[C]

She's back. Bonnie Blue is. Seems to really be getting after it on spring break with the college guys. And, you know, she's making the Most of her 15 minutes. JJ's back.

[A]

JJ's back. JJ.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

We're going to talk about the Tape brothers real quick. I just want to get your take on the Tates, and then we'll let you go for, for real this time.

[D]

Cool.

[A]

The Tape brothers.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Your thoughts?

[D]

Tristan?

[A]

You led with Tristan. What do you, you think, Tristan guy?

[D]

I mean, I, I, I've donated. Let me see if I can, let me see if I can find it in my email.

[B]

Did you, did you do the Hustlers University?

[D]

Yeah, I got a shirt. I got a shirt. I ain't gonna lie.

[A]

Wait, when you say donated, are you talking about enrolling in Hustlers University?

[D]

No, no, no, no. If, if you, if you like, they had this thing where, like, it was a. Out of like 999t shirts or something like that. I just, it was like 120 bucks for a T and I just spent it, and I was like, I'm never gonna get the T shirt. And Actually ended up getting it.

[A]

120 bucks for a T shirt.

[D]

Yeah, but it was.

[B]

If you enrolled in Hustler's University, they would have told.

[A]

What would I.

[D]

What would I type in to?

[B]

Where would you.

[D]

But it was. It wasn't their original website. They were promoting it, but it was a different site.

[B]

How many T shirts do you.

[D]

1.

[A]

Just search for.

[D]

I'm gonna type in Andrew Tate, see if it comes up my email.

[A]

I'm sure you have a lot.

[C]

Always signed up for the recurring for newsletters. Yeah.

[D]

Andrew taint a lot of our Tates coming up. I gotta find it. But I did get a. I did get a shirt from them. Was the shirt free? Andrew Tate. Oh, that might be the website. That was the website. Andrew Tate. That was the website. Was it that they would. There was no. There was no evidence.

[B]

I was asking if you thought it was.

[D]

Yeah, I think. I think. I think. I think they're. I think they're both innocent.

[A]

Do you think he's a pimp?

[D]

It depends on what your definition of a pimp is.

[A]

He called himself a pimp.

[D]

Like, what's the definition of a pimp?

[A]

If you control a woman that's making money for sex and then she's kicking up some money to you for you.

[B]

The facilitator between the product.

[D]

Okay. Did they ever find him guilty on that?

[A]

He's still in the.

[D]

In the.

[B]

In the.

[A]

Under indictment.

[D]

I mean. Okay, I look at it this way. Probably not the same, I would say, but I'm sure there are guys out there that are only fans, managers and stuff like that. And getting a percentage of what these girls get, you know, I could. I could see that maybe it's something similar because his whole thing was the cam girls, right?

[A]

Yeah, cam girls, human trafficking.

[D]

But they never had no evidence on the human trafficking, I don't think. Right.

[A]

Well, he hasn't gone to trial yet, so they haven't presented their entire case. Okay, how about this? Would you say that you support everything that Andrew Tate does that is legal, and you disavow the stuff that he does that is illegal?

[D]

100. Yeah, I think that goes for everybody.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[D]

That would go for you. That would go for Big T. Aaron. That would go for everybody, right?

[A]

What?

[D]

No. You don't think so?

[B]

Yeah, I think so.

[D]

Okay. Like, if you're asking me, like. Like, if you're asking me Diddy, I think Diddy's a terrible guy. Put out some great music, though. That stuff. I can get behind Kanye. Great artist, genius Nazi.

[A]

A racist bad guy.

[D]

Yeah. Correct.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So there's, like, multiple sides you can be. I'm not with the whole webcam girl. I think that, like, you shouldn't be doing that type of stuff.

[A]

So with Tate, you. What's the art that you're supporting with Tate?

[D]

He's for men.

[B]

Yeah, he's for men.

[D]

Yeah, he's for men.

[A]

He's pro, man.

[D]

Like, there's been times where I've been down and out a couple times, you know, the last couple years, and I'll throw on one of his things, like, you're right, bro.

[B]

You know, I'm glad you're here. I need to hear what he said that has inspired you. Because I listen to him talking, I'm like, what the am I listening to?

[D]

I think. I think it's more like his structure, His. His way he delivers certain things. I mean, he's a big guy, muscled up, has everything in the world, you know, cars, houses.

[B]

That's because he convinces you to buy $120 T shirts.

[D]

It was just one time thing he was saying you.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But that his. That is his hustle. It's like. It's almost like a Ponzi scheme, right? Because what he does is. It's like. Like. And think of thinking of an ascension of a rapper, right? This is. This is rapper X. I'm making him up. Rapper X begins his career talking about how much money he has and how many cars he has, and he's broke. And people feed into that facade.

[D]

Andrew Tate's not broke, though.

[B]

Hear me out, okay? And they feed into that facade, right? And then he ends up being able to afford those things because initially people bought it. That's what he's doing.

[D]

Oh, you think he was broke when he started?

[B]

Everybody's broke when they start. True.

[D]

Okay. Yeah, he's right. Everybody probably is broke when they start that. But now he's not.

[B]

I mean, I would. I would have to check that man's accounts. But a lot of the times with these people, people be in debt. Think about, bro. Like, I know finances pretty well. I'm not a savant, but I know finances pretty well, and I've done well for myself. A lot of people that pretend that they have money, don't have money. A lot of people, right? Like Ferraris.

[D]

How do they get the cars, though?

[B]

Yes, Ferraris are $250,000 to depreciate as soon as you buy them. I never. I don't give a fuck about cars, right? I like to keep my money. I always look at my money as like, not mine, but my children's money. Right? Yeah. And so those, those, those depreciate value as soon as you buy them. And a lot of times they rent them. There's. There's services.

[D]

You can rent his Bugatti, he's been driving the same one.

[B]

Look, that could be case. I don't know those man's finances. But a lot of people put on the facade of having money, and that is attractive to people who don't have money. Therefore, they buy into all.

[D]

Well, I know a lot of rappers for their music videos. They rent cars.

[B]

A lot of them. Yeah. A lot of rappers are broke.

[D]

Yeah. I would probably take. I would take Andrew Tate over most rappers, I think, in what just on a respect level.

[A]

So do you think it's possible.

[D]

Some stuff I like, like, okay, like some of the women's stuff. Like, there's been times where he has talked down to women. I don't. I, I'm not gonna get behind that. You know what I mean? But his other stuff, like when he's like, really, really motivational, I like that part of him when he's like, you.

[B]

Like your misogynist to be motivational?

[D]

Like, like, okay, this hasn't happened. But an instance, he can be talking about, I'm on the couch, I'm watching. Watching a podcast, and I'm eating cheez Its, and he's talking about, you're fat, you're fat. And then I'm like, you know what? You're right. I am fat. Let me put the Cheez Its down like that.

[A]

You. I mean this with all due respect, Jerry.

[B]

Oh, that's usually about to be disrespectful.

[D]

No, that's fine.

[B]

I'm in.

[A]

He's pimping you. Yeah, like this. That's what you say to your hoes. Yeah, you're like, you're fat. Put the Cheez Its down, get to work. Yeah, go out there, make some money.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And then you go make money, and then you buy something and they're like.

[A]

They'Re like, yeah, you're right, you're right. But I'm gonna go out there, I'm gonna suck.

[B]

It's a think about. It's like an abusive relationship.

[C]

Hey, you don't let him talk to you.

[A]

No, I'm not saying Jerry's gonna do it. Yeah, these are what the girls and Jerry's like.

[C]

But you just call him one of them.

[B]

But.

[A]

No, I'm saying. But it's the same way that you talk.

[B]

It's similar. Right. So it's like. It's an abusive relationship. Right. He. He talks down to you, and then you view that as, oh, he's being honest to me.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And then. And then he reels you in with. With the. The motivational stuff. You got to get on yourself. Then he talks down to you, and then he asked for money. That's an abusive relationship.

[D]

He's never asked me for money, though.

[B]

You gave him 220.

[D]

He was promoting a T shirt. Free Andrew Tate.

[B]

That's giving the money.

[D]

But he never said anything to me.

[B]

He doesn't know you, Jerry.

[D]

True.

[A]

He might.

[D]

No.

[A]

You never know.

[D]

No, no, no, no.

[B]

No way for you guys.

[A]

If you. If that inspires you to get up and get off the couch, go be productive. I'm happy that that happened.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, I don't. Like, I have a gym in my house, but it's just for show.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like.

[D]

Like I'm not actually doing these things. You know what I mean?

[A]

But you're like, he's right. I should.

[B]

He.

[D]

Yeah, he's like, I.

[B]

He.

[D]

I should be doing that.

[B]

You're right.

[D]

I should hit the treadmill. You're right.

[B]

So he's just. I mean, what's the point if you're not doing what he's saying?

[D]

Sometimes I like a villain, though. You know what I mean? Like, sometimes I like a guy that a lot of people hate, and it seems to me he's been pretty honest, open, and transparent with a lot of stuff.

[B]

We're gonna.

[A]

So far, we're gonna find out.

[D]

Okay. Drew Ski.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

I.

[D]

Funniest guy I think I've probably ever seen on the Internet. Hilarious. Caught up in this ditty stuff. I had an unfollow.

[B]

You did?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Why?

[C]

He denies it vehemently.

[B]

Wait to. The evidence parses itself out.

[A]

True.

[D]

But for now, I have to. If everything comes out and he's like, good to go, follow right away.

[B]

Well, wait, are you still following Andrew Tate?

[D]

I don't think I follow him. No. Let me see here.

[A]

So he was kicked off TikTok, right?

[D]

Yes, he was kicked off everything at one point.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think he was kicked off Twitter, too, but they brought him back.

[D]

Yeah. So he doesn't even have. I don't think he even has an Instagram.

[B]

You follow him on any other socials? No, no, because I will say this.

[D]

I see the clips, though.

[B]

This is actually news. The. Remember when Jay Z got caught in those allegations?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

It turns out they. They the lawyer walked away from the case. And then now Jay Z hired private investigators and they're saying that they have audio of the girl saying that, you know, Jay Z never did that. And it was the lawyer that pressured me to file a lawsuit. And of course the lawyer's denying it, but Jay Z was vehemently against it and that story ran wild. And now Jay Z.

[D]

You know, I'll tell, I'll say one thing. I think, I think there are a lot of guilty people. I don't know exactly who they are, but I don't think this is a one man show here. There's just no way are you in.

[B]

The, like the cabal of child.

[D]

I, I think, I think Disney. I think Disney snatches kids. I think Disney. There's tunnels, I think in the bathrooms. If you heard stories on the tick tock and stuff like that, I haven't heard kids go missing. There's a hole in one of the bathrooms in Disney. A couple years ago there was a hole in the wall like this big, like a peephole, right. And they put the camera to the peephole and it was just all underground tunnels. Tunnels, tunnels.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[D]

For sex trafficking.

[B]

For sex trafficking, yeah, yeah, I've heard this one. This was new to me. Maybe that, yeah, maybe that needs to be the next episode. And you.

[D]

Come on. Yeah, I mean, I, I don't like, I'm not a. Like the whole Nickelodeon thing is like. I think there's a lot of bad people out there.

[B]

What's the Nickelodeon thing? I've heard this one either.

[D]

Well, you have. You see the documentary that came out with.

[B]

I think we're on different sides of the Internet.

[C]

No, this one, this one's a confirmed, like bad, bad guys.

[B]

I haven't seen it.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Drake and Josh did what?

[D]

So they. There's a guy that was like touching them and you know, stuff like that. Bad stuff. Bad, bad guy. Yeah, but, but, but like, I think in that world, that side of the, the Internet and business and with shows and rap careers and. Okay, you see some of these people, right? My thing is this. I think there is a thing where it's like, hey, you're gonna come to this party. You go there and it's like, hey, how bad do you want to be famous?

[B]

This.

[D]

We can make it happen for illuminati type vibes, 100%. Because there's some people that I watch on the Internet and they're massive, massive. And they're just not interesting. They're just not funny.

[B]

Give me an Example.

[D]

I don't want to put anyone out there.

[B]

Put them out there.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[B]

If they're. If they're doing satanic worship and.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying the. The people that are reaping, okay. They blow up. Like, you see them blow up in. In a year's time where they were, like, just nobody, and they just blew up out of nowhere. I think there's stuff that goes on that they make that happen.

[B]

They. And they is Illuminati. Illuminati.

[A]

Industry plants.

[D]

Yeah. 100. Okay. I'll give you one. Some people might not like this. Some people might like this. Whatever. Ellen DeGeneres, she's Illuminati. I think she is one of the worst people on that. That God has ever created.

[B]

That is a statement. Yeah, I'm interested. Okay. So I know there were allegations and, like, she was, like, a shitty boss, and she treated people horribly, and there were some sexual.

[D]

Look in the details of the videos and what's in her house and the paintings that are in her house.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Give me more. What's in the paintings?

[D]

Devil stuff.

[B]

There's devil stuff?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. What kind of.

[D]

I mean, just paintings of hidden messages. Her talking about ordering pizzas.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

You know, stuff like that.

[B]

That.

[C]

This episode is no longer. This episode is whatever Jerry wants.

[B]

I like it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

She's saying the boss of a media company, and she seems to be obsessed with pizza. Big red flag in your opinion?

[C]

No, no, don't answer that. Don't answer that. Don't answer that.

[D]

Why not?

[A]

It's an easy question. Like, she's got all these videos constantly.

[D]

Pizza. Pizza. At these events.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Ordering pizzas. Oh, we should get a pizza right now.

[B]

I want you to think about what he asked you and then just. Just dwell on it for, like, 10 seconds.

[A]

She's at, like, a festival promoting pizza.

[D]

No, no, this was in, like, Golden Globes or Oscars or something.

[B]

I want you to think about what he asked. What did he ask you?

[D]

Would you ask me?

[A]

Hundreds, hundreds, maybe thousands of videos.

[D]

No, this was only a few times she did it.

[B]

So even. Not even that much.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So he asked you. There's an owner of a media company that is obsessed with pizza.

[D]

Was she the owner of the media company?

[A]

Yeah, she owned.

[D]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

Production. And that's. That's sketchy.

[D]

I think the way she said it got you definitely, you know, just out of the blue.

[B]

So just liking pizza and owning the media cup. Is not a no.

[D]

But if you're like at an event like that and it's like hidden messages. Pizza, you know, let's order a pizza. I'm gonna order two. Two cheese pizzas. It's like, that's hidden messaging.

[B]

Get weird.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, I got it.

[B]

Kind of get weird.

[D]

Yeah, but I. I think she's. She's a she. I think. I think she's probably in that hole.

[C]

Who are your top five worst people God's created? Yeah, cuz you said one like Ellis Hitler Two.

[B]

You think she's the worst ever?

[A]

He said one of the worst.

[D]

One. One of the worst. Yeah.

[B]

Let's just go with number one. Let's, let's. Let's get number one off the table and then we can. Let's work down to Ellen.

[D]

I would say. I would say I wasn't thinking about Hitler, but probably Hitler's okay.

[C]

For sure. Okay.

[D]

Could be 1. Could be 1. 2.

[C]

It's in most people's running.

[B]

Give me someone who's rivaling Hitler.

[A]

Let's have a Hitler category.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that's fair.

[D]

Okay. Hitler category.

[C]

I would say do non Hitler first, because we know the Hitler category. Yeah, we know all those guys.

[A]

I think it's just Hitler.

[B]

And give me the ones that give us your evil ones. The ones that you wouldn't think like Ellen.

[D]

Like, are you talking about people who I think are bad people or people I don't like?

[B]

You know, you. Both you think are bad people.

[D]

Kevin Conley. I think he's a bad guy.

[C]

Yeah, we know that.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So he would be up there.

[A]

So no hatchet buried on that?

[D]

No, never will be.

[A]

Still active?

[D]

No, never, never will be.

[B]

What's wrong with Kevin?

[A]

Come.

[B]

I just had to Google.

[D]

Just a.

[C]

It's a long story. I don't want a whole story.

[D]

It's a long story.

[A]

He owes Jerry some money. Yeah, Jerry. Jerry worked for him, didn't pay up. He's apparently notorious about stiffing people on podcast.

[D]

Long story. There was a guy that. You guys aren't gonna know this though. Like one. There was a guy who hit me up years ago. This is before barstool. Before I was. I maybe had like, I don't know, maybe like 7 to 10,000 followers on Instagram. You know, something like that. There was this kid named J.W.

[C]

Rhodes.

[D]

That was his name on Instagram. I text him from time to time, but he blocked my number. So I was starting to come up a little bit. I was gaining like a little bit of traction, you know, on social Media, you know, a couple people watching it, people talking about it, posting on their stories. This kid hit me up and he was like, hey, Jerry, big fan. Love the movement, love what you got going on. Blue collar guy. Awesome.

[C]

Love it.

[D]

Can get behind it, say, hey, I am, I am. Like, I know you love horses and betting on horses. I have exclusive rights to the Kentucky Derby. I have a suite. I can fly you out there and whatnot. All you got to do is friggin buy this friggin package. I'll do like 50 off for you instead of a thousand. It's going to be 500 bucks and you'll get all these things. So I was like done. Sent up the money immediately after block my number and come to find out there has been like big time articles out there that he was. He's just a known scammer. So he's up there on my list, but nobody's gonna really know him.

[A]

Okay. No, that's fair.

[D]

Because there was a time where like, I mean, I was broke.

[A]

That's a dirt bag move.

[D]

Yeah, that's a. That, yeah, that's a. That's a scumbag move. But yeah, I mean, there's. Let me, Let me see if I could find it in my dms.

[C]

So, Ellen, Kevin Connolly, the Instagram scammer.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Those are your top three.

[B]

Ellen paintings.

[D]

I'm trying to think of another person that I really, really, really despise. Was Reuben Stuttered runner up in American Idol or did he win?

[A]

He was. I think he was winner.

[E]

He won. He lost. He won to Clay.

[D]

That's the guy you don't like? Clay don't like him?

[E]

No, I cried when he lost.

[C]

Wait, wait, Clay ain the guy you.

[D]

No, no, I'm just trying to think of. I'm trying to think of. Think I'm having flashbacks now.

[A]

You don't like Ruben?

[D]

No, no, I love Reuben Stutter. There was a part of me that thought he was the runner up and then that. That would have made my hate.

[C]

What did Clay Aiken do?

[D]

Nothing. I just loved Reuben Stutter.

[C]

Got it.

[A]

So you thought you. You thought that Clay Aiken had won, stole it away from Reuben, Correct?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Gotcha.

[D]

I was a big fan of American Idol back then.

[A]

Are we sure that Reuben won?

[D]

I think he did, and I'm thinking about it.

[A]

But you were. You loved Reuben so much that you got.

[D]

Yeah, I used to cry.

[A]

You got fake mad at. At Clay for potentially stealing.

[D]

Yes. I used to cry when I heard Ruben stuttered.

[A]

You remember that song I'm sorry. For 2004.

[D]

Another one that I love. God bless his soul. Rest in peace. Followed me, was a fan of mine, Willie Spence, American Idol. You remember him?

[A]

I don't.

[D]

Oh, Voice of an angel. Well, you don't know Willie Spence.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I remember this guy.

[D]

He's a big guy, really chubby guy from Jasper, Tennessee. He sang a song. I think it was a Rihanna song. Shine bright like a diamond. I mean, crushed it. Love him. Okay, let's get back to the hate man. Pft. That's a. That's a. That's a. I mean, there's been, like, Miles Garrett's up there for me.

[B]

He's a bad guy.

[D]

Oh, he's not a bad guy. Just guys that I just don't like.

[A]

He's. It's a couple things. One, he gets thrown out there a lot as being better than T.J. watt, and Jerry has to defend that.

[B]

Do not with that.

[D]

No, no.

[A]

And then to the fact that he hit Mason Rudolph a Steeler.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

In the head with the helmet and.

[D]

Then lied that Mason Rudolph said a racial slur.

[B]

Did he lie?

[D]

Which he didn't.

[A]

I don't know. I, I don't know.

[B]

How do you know?

[D]

I asked Mason if he said. He said he didn't say it.

[B]

Oh, he's closed it.

[C]

See, I, I. It seems like if that happened, we would have known about it.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I'm just asking questions.

[C]

There's mics everywhere, right?

[B]

There are a lot of mics.

[D]

Yeah. Especially in happening in the end zone, right? Yeah, there's usually mics over there.

[B]

That was the infamous assault tweet, right?

[D]

Y. Deshaun Watson. Can't stand him.

[B]

That's a. That's an okay one, right?

[D]

Yeah. Plus bad guy Justin Tucker now just.

[B]

All AFC north guys.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

The thing is, I, I like Lamar, though. I will say I'm. I'm a fan of Lamar. I like that I've grown on Lamar. Like, there was a time where I, like, hate him, but, like, I hate him because he's so good.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But he's actually a good guy.

[A]

How we feel about Joe Burrow now? Because you used to hate him.

[D]

Used to hate him.

[A]

Then you met him.

[D]

And he's really cool. Yeah, he's a cool guy.

[A]

But then I noticed the hate started to creep back up last year a little bit.

[D]

A little bit. Yeah. But it's hard to hate a guy who's that cool. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And he said he Would play Call of Duty with me one day, so that's, like, awesome.

[A]

He's a good guy.

[D]

Yeah. Do you have any hate? Any hate? Like, like, deep down hate?

[A]

Deep down.

[D]

Osama bin Laden's up there for me.

[B]

Yeah. Okay, fair.

[D]

He's in the Hitler category.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Saddam Hussein, Hitler category, you know, I.

[A]

Mean, yeah, I would put all those. All those guys in there.

[D]

I don't know how to group Putin, though. Bad guy, 100 bad guy. Is that confirmed?

[A]

Yeah, Putin's a bad guy.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. You can think what you want about. I know that you have concerns with tax dollars, Jerry. Yes, yes. You have concerned.

[B]

I.

[A]

We can say Putin, bad guy.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

So.

[D]

Well, you know.

[B]

You know, it's becoming less prevalent in.

[A]

Circles if you do some research on. On how Putin got to be where he's at in the first place. He set off a bot. He bombed his own people.

[B]

He's a guy then.

[A]

And then blamed it on the Chechen rebels in order to get more people.

[B]

To vote for him.

[A]

They found, like, the fragments of the bomb and all that.

[D]

That's not good.

[A]

He did that.

[D]

Yeah, that's not good. There was another one that just popped into my head really quickly. Oh, man. Who was. It just popped in my head. I was like, oh, my God.

[B]

Bad guy.

[A]

Darren Ravel.

[D]

No, no, no, no. It had to do something with war.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Had to do something with war. Damn it.

[B]

I don't know. All right. Robert E. Lee. No.

[E]

Saddam Hussein.

[D]

I said that. Yeah.

[A]

Kim Jong Un.

[D]

Very private.

[A]

A recluse.

[C]

Not an inaccurate way to describe him.

[A]

He's a reckless.

[D]

I don't know enough about. All I'm saying is. Because I don't know enough about him.

[B]

That's a good stance to have then.

[A]

He's funny, though. He's very funny looking.

[D]

He loves Sports.

[A]

He loves the 90s Bulls. He's a big NBA fan.

[D]

Yeah, I love sports.

[B]

Man. Said private.

[A]

He also has. He's got a bunch of concentration camps for his citizens. He kills three generations of your family.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's not bad about him.

[D]

Oh, you know who came out my head? Hillary Clinton.

[A]

Hillary Clinton. Okay, good.

[B]

Fair.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

And I think. I think that. I think a lot of those also. Let me hear you. Let me ask you a serious, serious note. What do you think of George Bush?

[A]

Which? One second. One second. George Bush. I think one of the worst presidents of all time.

[D]

I know. I used to think the opposite. I'm starting to lean that way.

[B]

Okay. He was to it, Jerry.

[A]

George Bush.

[D]

As I got older, I've like, because back in the day I was like, great guy.

[A]

Here's the thing about George.

[D]

But as I got older and more mature, I've started to sort of feel like not a good guy.

[A]

I think he, he would be all his life. His dream growing up was to be commissioner of Major League Baseball. That's what he wanted. I think he would have been an outstanding commissioner. Major League Baseball.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I think he's probably on a person to person level. Probably cool to hang out with, to golf with. I think that he is a, the massive up as a president. Yes. Doing the Iraq war. Yes. Out of nowhere that us up for. We're still up from that.

[D]

Yeah, I agree. Yeah.

[A]

So, yeah.

[B]

It's almost like a million. Right. A million people die from that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's up there.

[A]

Yeah. And we spent a lot of money over there. Oh, yeah. A lot of people in the Middle east hate us now.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. More the million people. Yeah. Bad.

[A]

Bad guy for that 100.

[D]

Yeah. Like, I don't know.

[A]

But he would have been a great commissioner. He would have been maybe the best commissioner.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He was the owner of the Texas Rangers. I don't know how he was at that job, but he wanted to be commissioner and he would have been great. ROSIE o' DONNELL I don't really have any opinions about Rosie Fair. I've, I've never been a fan of her work.

[D]

Jack Black.

[A]

Jack Black. I like Tenacious D. I love Jack Black.

[B]

You know Jack Black.

[A]

He's a, I, I don't know enough about him as a person. We can do his art.

[B]

So shallow. How.

[A]

He's a great singer.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

He's in a lot.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

A lot of those movies.

[A]

Funny actor.

[B]

We don't, we don't like Jack Black.

[A]

You think he's.

[B]

Well, hold on. I haven't heard the bad. Does he have paintings as well?

[C]

He has estds.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

He has a disorder.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a disorder.

[B]

Okay. I'll, I'll bite my tongue on that one.

[A]

So. Yeah, anyone that he said like we.

[C]

Should not anybody kill Trump. Like.

[D]

Yeah, like that. That was a bit much.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Free speech.

[B]

It's free speech. Fair. Fair.

[D]

It is free speech. You could say that.

[A]

But then there's consequences to your free speech and the consequences. Jerry will bring you up the same sentences.

[B]

Hitler.

[D]

No, he's not in the same bracket as those people know. ROSIE o' DONNELL I don't know much about. Yeah.

[B]

Just don't like it. Yeah, I don't.

[A]

I, I never really thought she was that funny, but I Think maybe I was.

[D]

That could be an industry plant.

[A]

Rosie o'.

[B]

Donnell.

[D]

Why is she getting so many views? Why is she getting so many, you know?

[B]

You know, what's your prime example of industry plant? Like, prime example? Yeah.

[A]

I mean, what industry is Rosie o' DONNELL in that? She's a plan.

[D]

If I had to give one right now.

[B]

Yeah, I'll give you one. You give me one.

[D]

Okay, you first.

[B]

Hawk tour.

[D]

Yeah, that could be a good one. Yeah, that could be a good one.

[A]

I loved your podcast.

[B]

This guy. That's.

[D]

I mean, I wouldn't.

[B]

You're Andrew Tate. Did you buy any shirts?

[D]

I kind of. I kind of respect the Paul brothers in a way, but I could see that. Ah, but I respect them in a way. You know what I mean?

[A]

They're good self promoters.

[D]

Very good.

[A]

Yeah, very good. Logan Paul, from what I know, is a good wrestler.

[D]

Yes. I think he's great in the wrestling community.

[B]

Did.

[D]

Definitely did have a couple scams on his way up there, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Cost people some money on that thing he was getting behind. That wasn't good.

[A]

Yeah. I think from the wrestler, wrestling fans that I know, they say that Logan Paul is actually, did you know, technically a very good wrestler.

[D]

Did you know Jay Z never gave back to his projects? Did you know that?

[A]

No, I don't know.

[D]

Never.

[C]

The face. Jerry just made the funniest face I've ever seen in my life.

[B]

How do we know this?

[D]

My mom works with one of the guys there that grew up with Jay Z. His family still lives there in those projects.

[A]

Marcy.

[B]

Marcy. Yeah. I don't know enough about Jay Z's philanthropic endeavors.

[A]

I. I don't know enough to comment.

[D]

Never gave back to where he came from. Like, if I ever got massive, I think I would buy the town I grew up in.

[A]

You'd buy the whole town so you.

[C]

Could be the dictator of the town?

[A]

Give it back.

[D]

Well, no, but even if I didn't buy the town, I would build. Build parks and I would build other things.

[B]

Where are you saying Jay Z bad guy because he didn't give back to Marcy project?

[D]

I wouldn't say a bad guy, but I mean, he's worth so much money.

[B]

This is always interesting to me, and this is not even in these circles. In other circles, we always hear, oh, but you didn't give back to your neighborhoods. Like, to. To what extent do you owe your neighborhood that you grew up in?

[D]

I think there's levels to how much money you have. Like, like, no offense, I wouldn't expect you to give back as much as Jay Z should give back. You know what I mean? Just because he's made millions and millions more than you while you're made your millions. You know, I. I think, you know, you don't have to do as much.

[B]

Right.

[D]

You know, but I'm sure you have donated to charities and whatnot.

[B]

Oh, I've done a bunch of stuff.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

But. But I know Jay Z has done some stuff. I'm not sure specifically about his projects.

[D]

Yeah. You know, I met Jay Z once.

[B]

Oh, did you?

[D]

A couple years ago. Their Super Bowl.

[A]

How's that interaction?

[D]

Quick, high and by.

[A]

Does that have anything to do with why you don't like him now?

[D]

No, I didn't ask him for a picture or anything, no.

[A]

Are you sure?

[B]

Oh, you think you're bad guy because of Illuminati stuff. I've heard those rumors floating around for a long time.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, and then they started to come out. I mean, I think a lot of those guys are in bad stuff Aryan.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, I can't pinpoint a guy, but.

[B]

Like, adrenochrome like that.

[D]

Yeah, I. I mean, I. I think a lot of those people have done some really dark things.

[B]

Right.

[D]

You know, I don't know how many or. Or what, but I think a lot of them. A lot of them.

[B]

He has a song about that. Yeah, it's called the Devil is a Lie.

[D]

Never heard it.

[B]

Yeah, he.

[D]

He is Rick Ross in that song. I think I've heard it's Kanye on that song.

[B]

No, he addresses that claim specifically. He said, oh, it can't. You know, saying. It's maybe not for your audience, but he says, you can't be a. For rich, or it got to be the Devil. That's some.

[D]

What does that mean?

[B]

It's basically saying, oh, I can't. I can't have done what I've done just because off of my own merit. He's basically saying, you had to have had some help somewhere behind the curtain, somebody pulling the strings. You're devaluing my work ethic, and you're devaluing my product.

[D]

Okay, Epstein, bad guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Is that. Is everybody agreement?

[B]

I don't. Yeah.

[D]

Okay, so that's a. That's a Hitler side.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Bad, bad.

[D]

Now, now, the thing is, this went with that list. When are we ever getting it? So we're not getting it. Like, what's the deal?

[B]

This is the most transparent regime that the US has seen. You would think it would be out by now.

[A]

We. We talked with Brace about that last week and braces he's. He knows more about than pretty much anybody. And he's. He told us there's no list. The list is. It's made up. There's not. You're not gonna get a list of names. And it's like these people fucked with kids. And here's the list.

[D]

Is it just people who just went there?

[A]

It doesn't. Yeah, there's. There's the flight log, because we already.

[B]

Have flight logs which.

[A]

Which are out there. Yeah, there's a lot of fake ones too, but.

[D]

But people can just say, I went there to say what's like, hang out.

[B]

Well, the problem with. With Epstein's flight logs is that he covered up his operation with a lot of philanthropy, charity things. So he really did do charity.

[D]

Gotcha.

[B]

And so that's why he was in the network of a lot of wealthy people. And so there are possibilities of those wealthy people just having to do philanthropic things. Gotcha. And then that could have been the COVID for other people and you never know. And that's the problem with releasing something like the flight laws, because then everybody is. As soon as you have stepped foot around him, you're attached. Right. Because there's pictures with him and Donald Trump.

[D]

There's pictures with him and Diddy.

[B]

There's pictures with him and, you know everybody. And so that's the dangers. And I understand, like, wanting to get to the bottom of it, but like, at the end of the day, unless there's.

[D]

Yeah, we'll never know.

[B]

We'll never know.

[A]

There's some more evidence that was. That was taken from his New York townhome that we haven't seen yet. And some that just.

[B]

I mean, he had to have like phone records, stuff like that, right?

[D]

Yeah, right. Like, how is he communicating? You know what I mean?

[A]

Don't know. Don't know. But there's some stuff, there is some evidence that we haven't seen, but there's. No, you're not going to get a list where it's easy to look at and say all these people. Pedophiles.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That does not exist.

[B]

Using pizza is involved in that one too.

[D]

Maybe to not that extent. I don't know. Maybe not. Not sure. But who was the other girl? Ghislaine Maxwell. Bad, bad person.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You think, you think. Do you think the Diddy situation, Do you think Aryan, he's. You think that's all true?

[B]

It's looking that way, yeah.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

I mean, I know he's a piece of shit. Just for the The Cassie video that came out like. Yeah, big piece of shit. Like, I don't know. I got, I got a soft spot in my heart for domestic violence. I grew up in a domestic violent household. So like I don't fuck with that. Yeah, like that's coward shit to me.

[D]

Yeah. 100 total agreement there.

[B]

So whatever that case was, I mean, he need to be in jail for that alone. But it's looking like.

[D]

I don't understand. What I don't understand is the, the. The baby oil. I don't get that.

[B]

Have you ever used it?

[D]

No. Maybe as a baby.

[B]

So what do you. I wouldn't know. So when you, when you do what you do, what is your lubricant of choice?

[D]

Just the wet. The wet. Right, right. Is that, is that accurate?

[B]

I was talking about by yourself when you buy yourself.

[A]

That's a good answer.

[C]

No, that's a. Yeah, yeah, I keep a job.

[D]

No, just.

[A]

That's how man answers that question.

[D]

No lotion, nothing.

[B]

What you drink?

[D]

I never tried with any of that, brother.

[B]

You dry check. How old is it called? It's dry jagging.

[D]

Try.

[A]

Yeah, dry jag you can get like. That's blue collar.

[B]

You can get like irritation.

[D]

I've never got a rash or anything like that.

[B]

You've never had like a. Open like a cut or anything like that?

[D]

I don't, I mean, I jerk off, but I don't jerk off to like I'm not jerking off like five times a week.

[B]

Well, it's not about the, the quantity. I'm just saying the quality like that, I mean, do you have calluses on your head?

[D]

No, not really.

[B]

So you got, you got soft hands.

[D]

I mean, some of them are rough.

[C]

Got those blogger hands.

[B]

I'm just saying like there's a higher quality of self pleasure, my brother.

[D]

Really.

[B]

Go get you some baby oil. Find you some or.

[D]

Baby oil.

[B]

That's my go to wow, brother. Go get you some baby oil. Find somebody or somebody's feet that you like or whatever.

[D]

Girlfriend?

[A]

Yeah, sure.

[B]

And just have you a little night. And, and don't call me during, you know, hit me afterwards and be like, thank you.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

It's. It takes, it takes your pleasurability to the next level. I'm just letting you know.

[D]

But is that strictly okay? Hear me out. Is that strict just from jerking off or having intercourse?

[B]

No, just, just, just self pleasure.

[A]

Don't intercourse.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Intercourse is what you said.

[A]

Jerry, don't. Don't use baby oil while you're having sex.

[B]

No.

[D]

Gotcha.

[B]

Okay. Don't do that.

[A]

That's a bad.

[D]

So, okay, he had hundreds of gallons, whatever, of pallets of baby oil, right? So what I'm thinking, how much is he. How. How often can you jerk.

[B]

I don't know if that's what. That's what he was using. It could have been, like, massages that led into that. Sometimes people there. What do they call it? Voyeur. You're a voyeur where you enjoy other people getting down. Yeah. So, like, you enjoy other people getting that. So you sitting in a corner while. That's crazy.

[D]

I never got behind that.

[B]

I mean, it's not my thing either. Right. I don't kink shame. As long as it's consensual. If it's consensual and you're doing your thing, man, do whatever you gotcha.

[D]

All right.

[B]

But trust me, brother. Get you a little baby. Start you with a little bottle, little gas station bottle.

[D]

I heard baby oil. You could be used for tanning, too. Is that true?

[B]

I don't need.

[A]

I think so.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, I think. But you got to be careful because it might make you break out, too, depending how sensitive your skin is born.

[B]

I was born tan, but, yeah, if you put.

[A]

If you put oil on and you go out in the sun, it can magnify the tan, can make it bigger. That's interesting. Well, I'm glad.

[B]

I'm excited for your next session. Yeah.

[D]

Try it. Every.

[B]

Try to tell you it's. It's not. It's not the same. You're going to. You're going to enjoy it, but then.

[D]

You got to, like, wash your hands.

[B]

And, like, you should be washing your hands after anyway. I'm just saying, like, never, Daddy.

[A]

It is.

[D]

No, I'm not saying that. I do wash my hands when I.

[B]

Routine shouldn't change.

[D]

But I'm saying. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, I guess there's more. You understand what I'm saying? You got to do more thorough job. Yeah.

[D]

The whole day, it feels like it's going to be slippery.

[B]

No, as soon as you wash your hands, it comes off, I promise.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, water and oil don't mix, but you shouldn't use that much.

[D]

Okay. Not, though.

[B]

Not the.

[D]

Like, just enough. Talking about the travel size.

[B]

It's enough to slide.

[D]

I'll try it out.

[A]

I love that, though. Jerry. Yeah. Your whole world's about to change.

[D]

You use baby oil, too?

[A]

I have. I don't, like, have a go to.

[B]

It's. It's okay.

[D]

Let me ask you this. I don't want to get too personal, but.

[B]

But what. What's the substance?

[D]

If. If you, if you are. I don't know if I could pick one thing. Are you. If you're planning on. Let's say you're going home today and you're like, you know what? I'm going to jerk off today.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And you go to jerk off. You're getting some type of lubricant.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[D]

Seriously?

[B]

Oh, yeah. Wow. I can't remember the last time. That was like maybe 13 or 12. Last time I dry Jack.

[D]

That blows my mind.

[B]

I grew up on lotion, so it was lotion. But what happens with the lotion is it gets all caked up and it gets very. It just gets nasty. Gotcha. You have to keep on re upping. Right?

[D]

Okay.

[B]

With the baby oil, one or two times is all you need, depending on how long your session is.

[D]

And real quick, I'm like five minutes.

[B]

Okay. With just one little. One little splat. And brother that shit. Because, I mean, listen, you know how it feels, right? And so you're. Can't nobody do it better than you. Yeah, true. So once you get a little lubricant on that thing, you gonna.

[D]

Damn, I'm excited.

[B]

Gonna rock your world. You gonna rock your world, Jerry.

[D]

Maybe I'll stop at a CVS on the way home.

[A]

Please don't treat yourself.

[B]

I mean, if you're embarrassed, you could just doordash it.

[D]

Yeah, but then, but then, then she would be like, hey, why is there a baby oil in the house?

[B]

Say. So we're gonna try a little something different tonight.

[A]

Yeah, I got to give you a massage.

[B]

No.

[D]

Tammy. All right.

[A]

Yeah, Give her a massage with it.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

I never. I never even use lotion if I'm like, just like rubbing her back.

[B]

Lotion's bad for massage too.

[D]

Lotion's bad. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, because it's. Does moisturize, but it dries out.

[D]

Is the baby. We're gonna ruin the sheets and stuff. I got expensive sheets.

[B]

You're not. You're supposed to. You're not gonna like. All right, take it on. It's just like a nice little.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Quarter size or it's not a lot. That's what I'm saying. And it stays and it's long lasting and it's. It's better like that. I'm excited to try and for a little more romance. Yeah. Put some on your lady back and that's. It's a thousand times better than lotion.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah. Baby oil supreme, dog. All Right.

[D]

She's never. And I'm thinking about. She's never used baby oil on me if she was giving me a massage. Nothing.

[B]

No, she dry.

[A]

Yeah, I'm thinking about.

[D]

Thinking about it now.

[B]

She just. So she's rubbing you.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm about to rock both y' all worlds. Baby oil with massage is amazing.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

Your whole. Your whole life is about to change.

[B]

Yeah, I'm about to. You about to get upgraded.

[D]

I'm excited.

[B]

You just reached a new level.

[D]

See how it goes.

[B]

Yeah, I want to hear back from it.

[D]

Hopefully I can report back in a couple days. Maybe tomorrow.

[A]

Yeah, let us know.

[B]

You should do this immediately.

[A]

Follow up, we'll have you back on and give. Give you a review.

[D]

Love that. All right, deal.

[A]

Jerk off.

[B]

Reviews and massages.

[A]

New brand. Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Thank you, Jerry.

[D]

Thank you, guys. See you later.

[B]

Good.

[A]

Good talk.

[B]

It's all good.

[D]

Phone.

[B]

More important debt.

[A]

I got you.

[D]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, damn. All right, so in the news today, Bonnie Blue went to spring break.

[C]

What an open.

[A]

Bonnie Blue went to spring break. We took. I mean, we touched on some of the Andrew Tate stuff, too, and we'll get to more of it.

[B]

No pun.

[A]

Yeah, we did. The fact that he's never used lube, that's insane. It's crazy.

[B]

That's almost psycho.

[A]

It's dry, Jack.

[B]

You just get it done.

[A]

I mean, to be fair, he's only 27, so.

[B]

Nah, bro.

[C]

Every time I hear that, I'm flabbergasted.

[B]

Jerry's 27.

[C]

No, I think he's, like, 30 at least.

[B]

All right.

[E]

But that still is crazy. It's still a crazy number.

[B]

It's wild. I mean, that's. I don't. He's never cared for himself. Yeah.

[C]

He's one of my favorite people in the world. Every time I talk to Jerry, I've. You can't have a bad time talking to Jerry.

[B]

I agree. Yeah. Very genuine dude.

[A]

The look on his face when you put him onto baby oil. I mean, you could tell he was excited.

[B]

I'm excited for him.

[A]

It's a whole new world out there, brother.

[B]

He gonna. He gonna go to town.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, the first time you figured out you could. I do sessions after that were plentiful.

[A]

Different.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's never going to go back. You might have actually ruined it. He was perfectly happy dry jacking.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And now he's never going to want to dry Jack.

[B]

I can't believe you that old and still dry Jack.

[A]

That's blue collar. Working class. Working class masturbation. Yeah. So Big T. Bonnie Blues at spring break. Is she actually fucking guys down there or is she just hanging out?

[C]

Seems that way. Yeah.

[E]

I have, I have just, just seen the Twitter picture that would lead me to believe she is.

[A]

Oh, the one where she's naked with, like, five dudes around her?

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

So.

[C]

So you knew?

[A]

I saw that picture. I didn't know if she was or not.

[C]

I mean, I guess we don't know for sure, but.

[A]

Because if you're Bonnie Blue and you have sex with five guys and it's not filmed, why would you do that?

[C]

I'm pretty sure she's filming it.

[A]

Oh, she's filming, I would assume. Okay, so I guess we'll get maybe more evidence.

[C]

Yeah, I don't think she's flying down to Cancun to just, I mean, at.

[B]

This point she has a problem.

[A]

Yeah. Do you. These guys have to pay.

[B]

These dudes are fucking weirdos. Yeah. Like, if you are willy nilly doing this stuff with this woman, like, there comes a time where you just look at her, like, you don't have to do this.

[C]

Have you seen the pictures of, like, not even the people having sex with her? They're, like, doing shots out of crazy places. I mean, it's nuts. It's nuts.

[A]

So in the picture, which was posted by Hayes Whitmore, he says, no muff. Too tough for this guy. Hashtag full attack mode. I'm sure he's nice and delicate and gentle. I'm sure it's pleasurable for her. And then I saw that somebody, that someone found one of this guy's last tweets, and it was a picture of Stanley cup thermos that he was giving to his wife. And what did it say?

[E]

Like, he said.

[C]

Hold on.

[B]

Oh, he's married.

[E]

I, I, he's a freshman in college.

[A]

Could be wifey, like his just his girlfriend.

[B]

Boot thing.

[A]

Yeah, I think a lot of people saw wifey and they thought he's a.

[B]

He'S a freshman in college. How old is she? I thought she was, like, late 20s.

[A]

Yeah, she, I don't know.

[E]

I think she's around my age, honestly.

[A]

Is she.

[B]

So she mid. What do you, what are you, 25?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Bonnie Blue looks 15 years older.

[B]

Yeah, she's wear and tear, bro.

[A]

Yeah, she's seen a lot of stuff.

[E]

Oh, my God. She's two weeks younger than me.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Are you serious?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel bad for this woman.

[A]

Maybe it's the British accent.

[B]

No, I don't.

[E]

But she, yeah, no, I don't think so.

[A]

She seems, if you were to ask me, I would have said she's like 38 or 40.

[E]

She's my.

[C]

I just want to know the. How much money she's made, because that. I mean, that's like. Yes. Is she embarrassing herself in front of the world? Yes, sure. But, I mean, she's filthy fucking rich.

[A]

If she's not rich, then this is the weirdest thing ever.

[C]

Then I think she's like, I'm. She might be richer than you. I. I think she's probably close.

[B]

I have. I mean, I have no idea that.

[C]

I think that's a pretty good barometer.

[A]

You think so?

[C]

I think she's probably close.

[B]

What's that? Can you Google her net worth?

[C]

I.

[A]

But it's. Those are never.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, there's no. Unless she puts the numbers.

[A]

Yours. Yeah. Yours is public. So I'm sure, like your contracts. Everybody knows what your contracts were.

[B]

Right.

[E]

Well, does she have an Only Fans? Yes.

[B]

Right.

[A]

The sun has estimated that Bonnie Blue has a net worth of around $3 million.

[C]

No chance.

[B]

She's not richer than me.

[E]

Yeah, Aaron, it says yours is. Do you want me to say it?

[B]

Yeah, go ahead.

[E]

50 million. That's from celebritynetworth.com.

[B]

I would have to count some things because there's some investments, like, on paper. Right. I would, but it's not far off. Yeah.

[E]

Pft. What's the name of the guy with the Stanley Cup? Trying to find it.

[A]

Oh, is Hayes Whitmore.

[E]

I think I've noticed a lot of Twitter burners. I. I've noticed a lot of Twitter burners have Whitmore as their last name.

[A]

It's H. Whitemore, 29. So W H I T E M.

[C]

O R E. So I googled who has made the most money on Only Fans. I'm seeing Iggy Azalea. Is she's on Only Fans now.

[B]

Yeah. So that she's.

[A]

She.

[C]

They're saying she's made $70 million. And then they're saying other. These other top people have made, like, tens of millions. I mean, Bonnie Blue, is she not the number one person in the game right now?

[B]

I don't think she. I don't think she's that desirable to watch on Only Fans. I think she's just, like, known for it.

[A]

I think she's doing a terrible job of monetizing her brand.

[B]

I think. I think that may be the case as well, because can't you see how many subscribers somebody has onlyfan? Or is that private?

[E]

I thought you could.

[A]

Let's see here. It says before this job I'd only slept with five people.

[B]

I'm not buying that.

[A]

She said that in October 2024.

[B]

I listen and we don't judge.

[E]

You're right.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I'm gonna have to.

[A]

Oh. She said, I used to be married.

[B]

I will not stand for it, Matt.

[E]

No, not to the extent of Bonnie Blue, but there was a time in the barstool universe that a lot of the women were making Only fans and not even putting up anything too crazy. And they were getting.

[B]

Who's the Joan I was with last night?

[E]

Kate.

[B]

Kate. She got Only fans. And she jokes up there.

[E]

She said she still makes like a month.

[B]

A month?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

On her only fans.

[A]

And she's. Yeah. Never done anything sexual. It's just her making jokes.

[E]

Right. So that's what I was talking about.

[B]

So I'm kind of torn on Only Fans.

[A]

Only Fans. It seems like it's. It's shit coins for girls. They just make their own Only fans and they get paid a lot of money, and then they don't really have to do anything.

[B]

So I'm saying that's why I'm kind of torn on it. I don't. I don't necessarily hate it.

[A]

I.

[B]

But I. I almost understand it.

[A]

I get it. Because if you're in the porn industry, you don't make. You don't make money. Like, you're doing all the work, and then your manager, the companies, they make all that money. If you're on Only Fans, that money goes right to you.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Which I guess is more ethical. I don't know. I personally have never been on Only Fans. I don't subscribe to anybody.

[B]

I don't understand why you subscribe to it. That doesn't make any sense when you can get it.

[A]

Like, there's porn that's free.

[B]

There's. I mean, X videos.

[E]

The parasocial relationship that you gain from.

[B]

What does parasocial mean?

[C]

It's like when you've used that word several times today.

[E]

I have.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a good word.

[E]

It's a relationship that you have with a figure online or in media as someone. You don't know them. So, like me, I would have a parasocial relationship with, like, Harry Styles, where it's like, I feel like you or people could have one with us where it's like, I feel like I know them.

[B]

Oh, okay. Yeah. I was at a. I was at a golf course one time and I was sitting down, waiting for my tea. I think I was getting a sandwich and this dude came up to me like, hey, Man, I'm a big Macrodosian fan. I was like, word. I was like. He's like, yeah, man. You want to have a little bite with us? I was like, yeah, I like the sandwich here. And he's sitting there, and he said exactly that. And he said, Paris. Like, man, it's just so weird because I feel like I know you.

[E]

Right?

[B]

Like, I was the first time we met, I was like, yeah, I definitely don't know you, but I can see how you could feel like that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You consume so much of somebody's content that you feel like, you know.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And to an extent, you kind of do.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, it's.

[B]

It's.

[A]

The Internet has made it a much bigger thing.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But I think it's always kind of existed where, like, you looked up to celebrities, movie stars, musicians.

[B]

Yeah. I got a relationship with, like, Pac, with Kendrick.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, saying I felt very intimate thoughts. I would never express that to them. Yeah, yeah. They. They helped me get through my day.

[A]

I would say fantasy football. That was like one of the first parasocial.

[B]

I wish I understood it more as. As a ute.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I was so like, how the. Are you just going dehumanize me in this way? Towards the latter end of my career, I was like, okay, just growing the game. Old ladies tripping at me, saying, thank you for winning and like that. But at the beginning, it was more like you, me, over. And that's all I was, rather than like, understanding it was. You know, but social media was very new back then, so. Yeah, very new.

[A]

And also, like, the die hard fancy football people are. They're kind of crazy. Same thing with, like, the die hard gambling people, People that get crazy.

[B]

True.

[A]

I don't. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but they're out there. Bonnie Blue says that she. She was married before. She was married in a relationship for 10 years.

[B]

Wow.

[E]

She's my age.

[A]

She started dating a guy, I guess, when she was 13.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

And how old is he?

[A]

I don't know. I bet you I don't know. But they got married, and then how.

[B]

Old they get married?

[A]

I don't know. I'm just reading right now.

[C]

This seems like a sad story.

[B]

If something bad happens when she was young, I do feel bad for her, but if she had, like, a good upbringing and I don't feel bad for her. Yeah, that's where I stand.

[A]

So she says that she made $3 million last year on Only Fans.

[E]

And that's just on Only she does.

[B]

Have a manager though, doesn't she? Like she has like handle on that little TV documentary I seen.

[A]

She says this year it's always been over 3 million for 2024. So being a slut pays really well. That's what she says.

[E]

Fair point.

[A]

She says that her ex husband and her on really good terms. He works for her.

[E]

Oh my God.

[A]

He helps with some behind the scenes stuff. It's convenient, it's handy for me this.

[C]

Whole situation, it's not very godly.

[B]

Big T. Yeah. No kidding.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

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[D]

Getting out there to work on your.

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[D]

Winning tech and impressive range, all with.

[C]

An affordable MSRP Chevy Equinox EV will put a smile on your face no matter how your scorecard shakes out.

[A]

So I don't know if she's getting. I think she's regardless doing a bad job of monetizing her fame because she's like super famous right now. Albeit for some pretty weird you could say.

[C]

But like how do you monetize that outside of just only fans like you're. Nobody's paying you to be in a.

[E]

Commercial like but like like a show or a meet and greet. Like like she's just going and hanging.

[B]

Out biggest podcasts and then she rugged everybody. But she had like a lot. Yeah, I guess she could momentum and she just talked about which.

[E]

Right.

[B]

I doubt you know, I have, I have questions as to if she's ever even executed to that level.

[C]

But if you're making so wasn't making any money. If you're making millions of dollars a year, are you really trying to do a, a podcast like to make another 100 grand like you're looking at one.

[B]

That has an exact situation.

[C]

Sure. That's an interesting point but. No, no, no. But there's a difference. There's a difference. I tell you why there's a difference though. There's a difference. I can tell you why you, you're not currently you don't have. You're done with your job. She's working in quotation marks.

[B]

But this, I'll tell you what, that could be part of her income. Right. And so the reason why this is really fun. One, it's just fun to to do stuff like this. But two, it's, it's like you can exist and you can live without touching your principal.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And so that. That is an extreme weight off of my back. And I'm sure everybody else is who. Who does it. It's. It's a. I mean, it's a good deal for.

[A]

Yeah, I. I think she could do a better job of. There's companies out there that would definitely sponsor. Obviously, she's not going to get an ad from Chick Fil A.

[B]

There was a article. I seen that there was. And they do franchise these. Right. And so it's not probably directly tied, but one of the dudes got caught driving to go meet a little boy, like one of those sting things at Chick Fil A. One of the owners of one of the franchises. I'm pretty sure it wasn't one of the main. But yeah, you're one of the. One of the owners. Yeah.

[A]

That's not good.

[B]

Bad for the brand, that. That one. The punishment should be. They're open on a Sunday.

[A]

Yeah. Repent.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Tithe. That's your tithing to us.

[B]

You owe us, though.

[A]

But yeah, there should be companies that will. That would advertise with her.

[C]

I'm sure there are several.

[B]

Give her one.

[A]

Yeah. Spitball any company out.

[E]

Dude wipes.

[A]

Yeah, dude wipes.

[E]

Yeah, she needed those.

[B]

That'd be perfect.

[A]

Good call, mackenzie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's strong.

[E]

Yeah. Or like, Trojan.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But is she.

[E]

These men.

[B]

Wrong.

[A]

But they're so Trojan's such a big company that they probably. They want to promote safety during sex.

[B]

And there's really three that I've ever even considered.

[A]

But there's a lot of, like, up and coming companies, like, maybe, like, are willing to do whatever for publicity that. We're back.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Cook.

[E]

Yeah, Keep going.

[B]

Potato shit, right?

[A]

Yeah. Towels.

[E]

Towels.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Cleaning service.

[A]

Divorce attorneys.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Like, for sure you could get a. A divorce attorney that would like to get your, like, logo or number tattoo on her lower back.

[B]

Do lawyers have the worst local commercials?

[A]

Sometimes the best.

[C]

I think a lot of them are funny.

[E]

No.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But sometimes the worst.

[B]

Okay, what's the best local commercial?

[A]

There was a guy in Austin. What was his name? I want to say was David Comey. The attorney who rocks. And it was just his. His face on a billboard. Everywhere in town is just this dude with dreadlocks.

[B]

And see it.

[A]

He just looked like he partied.

[B]

So I grew up in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and to this day, I remember this motherfucking name, Ron Bell. And he was a lawyer. 898 Bell. Mm. Area code 505. Y' all want to. Y' all want to. Y' all Want to run with that one?

[A]

I like it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Something some memorable.

[B]

Yeah. So I guess it's not bad.

[A]

If you remember it, there was another one in Austin that was for, like, bail bonds.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And it was just dial 777-7777.

[B]

It's great.

[A]

They got the best number. So it's like you get arrested for drunk in public.

[B]

Just remember one.

[A]

You just. You just go into jail and you just hit seven until somebody picks up and bails you out, and that's it.

[C]

My favorite was my grandparents lived in St. Louis when I was a kid. So when I'd go there, there was a place called Dirt Cheap Cigarettes and Beer. And they had a giant chicken, and he would just go, cheap, cheap. And they were like. And they would talk about all the stuff that's at Dirt Cheap, and then he'd pop up and go, cheap, cheap. And it was my favorite commercials.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you don't even like cigarettes or beer.

[C]

No. But not a fan of either. Especially as a. As a small child.

[B]

Yeah. I thought you had a favorite beer.

[C]

I have a favorite cider. It's a cider, which is a beer adjacent. More tasty option.

[A]

Got you.

[B]

Yeah. I thought it was a beer. Interesting. Yeah.

[A]

Also, Morgan. Morgan, they do great ads.

[C]

They're not local.

[A]

They're not local, but, yeah, local commercial. Local car commercials are great too.

[B]

Those are funny.

[A]

Those are fantastic. Chris Bosch did a very funny car commercial back in, I want to say, 2012, 2011.

[C]

Correct me if I'm wrong. I think that was a fake commercial as an ad to as like to get him to the All Star game.

[A]

You might be right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But he was doing, like, a local car commercial vibe.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

To it. Yeah.

[C]

I think it was when he was still in Toronto.

[A]

Yeah. Eastern Motors, they do great car commercials in D.C. eastern Motors. Your jobs, your credit. That's basically the whole song. They say it over and over again. You're not familiar with these.

[B]

We should make a macro dozing commercial just for fun.

[A]

Yeah, we should.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

What would be our. Like, what would be your thing?

[B]

You know what I've always.

[E]

What's your job?

[B]

Well, this is. This. Yeah. That's great. This is what I've always wanted to do. We should do, like, you know, you remember, like, Family Matters. This is those. Those. Those kind of TV shows growing up where we're all, like, doing our things and we turn to the camera and look. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

70S vibe.

[B]

I want. I want to do that with Macrodosa.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Can we do that while I'm here?

[A]

A commercial for macrodosing? We can try.

[B]

Yeah. Like, Big T will be shooting free throws or something like that. Yeah.

[A]

And like.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can we do that? And we'll. Yeah, we'll do the.

[E]

You have a song we could put under it?

[B]

If only we had an intro song.

[E]

Well, I'm saying we could, like, adjust the fit to I got you.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, I can.

[E]

Yeah, but we could use that one, too.

[B]

We'll see. I'll give you one that's kind of like that vibe and then. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[A]

Sounds good. Arian. Eric, your son. Basketball game. How's he playing?

[B]

He's struggling right now.

[A]

But he's playing up.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

He's sixth grade and they're all eighth graders, and so there's a physical difference. And so the reason why I wanted him to do this and it's so good for him because it's something that happened to me. Well, I always played up. I was. What was that book of Malcolm Gladwell's where, like, when you're born in a certain month, like, you're more prone to.

[A]

Was that the outlier 10,000?

[B]

Yeah, outliers. Okay. So it's a bit of that where I think I was. I was born at a certain way where I had to play at a grade level up. And so by the time I was able to play against my age group, I was playing with kids and I was just dominant. Right. So that's what he's dealing with right now. He's struggling with that transition, but you can see him, as the games go on, he's getting more and more confident, and he's easily the best shooter in that gym. Like. Like, I could hear the kid. Kids don't know who I am. Right. And so, like, they had a three point contest yesterday. And so, like, I'm looking at everybody else. Shoot. I'm like, there's. There's one kid in who has, like, really good form and just happened to be my son. Right. But, like, you can hear him. And there's like, oh, watch out for this one. I seen him shoot. He's insane. Right. And the nerves got to him a little bit, but, you know, he did well. But that's the thing. So he's having fun. The most important thing is I want him to experience travel ball. That's. I haven't been up under him. I haven't. Son, we got. Let's go get something to eat. Go enjoy your teammates. Enjoy the experience of traveling and Playing ball in something in a different place. And I wanted to get beat up a little bit. And that's what happened. Everybody's taller, everybody's bigger. Because the difference between. I'm 38. Difference between 38 and 40 is. Neil, there's nothing. Difference between 26 and 28 is nothing. Right. The difference between 11 and 13 is huge.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. And so that's what he's dealing with.

[A]

How are you balancing his. Are you talking to him after the game and making sure he's not getting, like, too discouraged? Because you want him. You want him to get better, but you also don't want him to be, like, so dejected.

[B]

Yeah, I don't want to shoot his confidence.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's what I'm telling him. So when he comes to me after the games, he's. He's like, down. I said, I just want to play better. Hey, bro, you killing it right now. I was like, listen, them boys about to go to high school next year, you going to seventh grade. That is, until I was like, you're doing great. You the only sixth grader out here. You and his other little homeboy. They're nice, right? And they're. They're not used to not being the guys on their team. That's another thing, too, Right? They're secondhand to the 8th graders on their team. And so that's the thing I'm telling them, bro, I said, bro, you are killing it. I was like, ain't no other sixth grader doing this right now. Right? All the other sixth graders are playing with other sixth graders. This is great for you. I said, just keep. I said, I try to get him to focus on one thing. This game, focus on this. This game, focus on this. And you could see him. And I'm like. And get aggressive. If you get a foul, fine, get a foul. But stay aggressive. Don't let the big dudes fool you. And that's one thing that when I was little, my dad used to tell me, put they pants on one leg at a time, just like you. They ain't special. Go get them. Fight.

[A]

I like that.

[C]

Still haven't got invited to a game.

[B]

I want to come to a game. Where? Was it something sports complex.

[C]

I would have guessed that.

[B]

That's because you're bright, Big T. And don't let anybody tell you.

[C]

Tell me what town the sports complex is in.

[B]

I will do that. In Bedford Park.

[A]

Look that up, Big D. How far drive is that?

[B]

It's about 38 minutes from here. Yeah, it's kind of out Yahweh.

[A]

Does he have a team name?

[B]

Yeah, they got Audi. Audi Rams.

[C]

You can get there faster in 38 minutes.

[B]

I mean, that's what the thing told me. I'm not.

[C]

That's probably.

[B]

Can you give me there faster than 38 minutes? You got a car?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You trying to go see the King Von mural?

[C]

Where is that?

[B]

That's in the south side of Chicago.

[C]

How south?

[B]

It's right across the street from old block.

[C]

I think I'll let you do that one.

[B]

I think there's an autozone there.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

You're just gonna drive up and start shooting you big. That's not how that works.

[C]

Well, yeah, but like, why. I don't.

[B]

You're not a part of that.

[C]

I can look. I appreciate art through. Through a screen. I don't need to see the art briefs hat. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of my hats I feel are. They might have connotations.

[B]

They don't play as much out here. It's different rules. There are gangs out here, but they play by different rules than LA gangs.

[A]

What would the Braves have be.

[C]

I don't know. They said there were.

[B]

There was one, but that was in la. It's different. Okay. As you travel, some. Some gangs, like, I guess you could say they franchised. Yeah, like. Like Nipsey Hussle's gang. They franchise. There's a lot of neighborhood Crips, neighborhood rolling six 60s. There's a lot of those around.

[A]

It's funny because there's a. There's a sorority Zeta.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Zta. Their. Their logo is the five point crown. And I think sometimes it's the three point crown which is the exact same as Latin Kings.

[B]

Latin Kings. And so like, are they the same colors?

[A]

I think, yeah, I think it's just a gold crown.

[B]

Yeah. Black and gold is Latin King.

[A]

And so like if you're. There's a sorority girl and a Jetta driving through the hood, just represent her sisters. She pulls up on the wrong corner, it might be. It might be curtains for.

[C]

I'm seeing a list of hats you don't want to wear in Chicago.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Vikings, for some reason. Yankees or Mets?

[A]

Vikings, because. NFC North.

[C]

Right. Seattle Mariners hat with the trident pointing down. Dodgers.

[B]

Yeah. So that, that. That's. What is that?

[A]

Gangsters.

[B]

Gangster disciples. Yeah. They do try to.

[C]

Detroit Tigers, Pirates, Packers, Red Sox, Royals, Reds, Padres, Braves and the New Orleans Saints.

[B]

That would be probably the same gd.

[A]

The Saints. Because the. The Fleur de Lee.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Has three. Three points.

[B]

Yeah. Three little trident.

[A]

Yeah. Well, yeah. Why Is Braves on there with a great hat.

[B]

What could a beautiful. It could be like. It's like a. Like a hood. I don't know. I don't know enough about the Chicago lore. There's a dude in, like, somewhere over the pond. His name's Trap Lore. He has built a YouTube channel just scouring the Internet about the lore of Chicago gang life. And this dude knows, like, intimate details about neighborhoods and who killed who and which neighborhoods. Beefing with. It's fascinating how fascinated he is by it. It's wild Trap. Trap lore, boss.

[A]

Or some shit like trap lore. So he knows. He knows more than the police do.

[B]

A thousand percent. I'm sure they use some of his.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He was on. What's that Little gossip blog jump. I blocked them, but no jumper.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It was on that.

[A]

That was another one where. Why?

[B]

What was?

[A]

When Adam 22, and he's like, somebody else is gonna. My wife.

[C]

They might be destined for a collab.

[A]

Yeah. Most ambitious crossover event of all time.

[B]

Yeah. I can get the appeal of that, though. I can understand it. So it's not something I'm into somebody.

[A]

Your wife.

[B]

I can understand it. Yeah.

[A]

I. I could not.

[B]

I couldn't either, but I could. I could understand how he got there.

[A]

I guess so, because she was doing scenes with women, and then he's like the forbidden fruit.

[B]

Short stone's throw.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Skipping a jump from a dude plowing your wife.

[A]

Also, do it across the entire Internet where everyone can see it.

[B]

I mean, you gotta have some thick skin or just be like, yeah, I don't care. That's what I like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like me, and we're older women, man.

[A]

True. You like what you like.

[B]

Talk all the shit you want, brother. That's my thing.

[A]

Enjoy it.

[C]

I'm not going back to college to be your friend. I'm going so I can get Uber one for students. It saves you on Uber and Uber eats. I'm there for $0 delivery fee on cheeseburgers, up to 10% off smoothies and.

[B]

6% Uber credits back on rides.

[C]

Just to be clear, I'm there for savings, not whatever you think college is for.

[E]

Get Uber one for students a membership.

[A]

To save on Uber and Uber Eats.

[E]

With deals this good, everyone wants to be a student.

[B]

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[A]

All right, so we're gonna get into Andrew Tate in a second. I almost called him Andrew Luck. Completely different guy. Could not be more different.

[B]

One of the nicer I've ever Met dog. Yeah. Yeah, I got a jersey. Where'd I meet him? I played against him for years.

[A]

Did you ever hang out with him?

[B]

No, not in, like, any real sense, but I've. I've met with him, seen him outside. Like, not in a real way. Like, we didn't. I didn't go to his house and play video games, but, like, yeah, every time I came. Just like one of the nicest dudes you could ever meet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I got to meet him like, three months ago. Seems like a genuinely. Yeah, kind, good dude. Smart dude, good dude. Every. He's, like, a little dorky, but he. He owns it.

[B]

We all got a little dorking.

[A]

Yeah, I definitely have some. Some dorking. Me, for sure. But, yeah. Love Andrew Luck. He did his hard count when he was in the studio with us, and it was.

[B]

Oh, he had one of the best ones.

[A]

It was really good.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

He got me and Big Cat to jump off sides, really?

[B]

During the voice.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, one of those.

[B]

That's one of those things I don't think I could ever do as a quarterback because anytime, like, if I ever get fading, like we're playing spades or something like that, and we all talking and you laying cards, I always lose my voice the next day.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, you don't have it.

[B]

We would always have to go silent count.

[A]

Maybe it's one of those things if you work at.

[B]

Could be. Yeah. You develop. If you're doing said hut for years, that might be.

[A]

Did you have a quarterback that you would play with that, would. That, like, his count was hard for you as an offensive player?

[B]

Nah, that was always easy because you.

[A]

Get to see the ball.

[B]

Well, no, he tells. He tells us the count.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So we know what it is.

[A]

You never. Like, there was a cadence?

[B]

No, I don't think I jumped in the league. I jumped in college.

[A]

That's embarrassing as a running back, isn't it?

[B]

I did it in college once and I had. I had a swing route. Luckily, there was no pass protection and I jumped and I just turned and I acted like I did a slow motion.

[A]

It was perfect.

[B]

It was actually pretty.

[A]

I wonder if that. That highlight exists.

[B]

It was my junior year, I want to say, against maybe Arkansas. Could have been.

[A]

I hope that all these networks are archiving every game they've ever had.

[B]

They need to. I hope.

[A]

It should be. There should be a football library.

[B]

It needs to.

[C]

Yeah, pretty much now. Every game that's on national TV you can find on YouTube, but, like, from earlier 2000s, like, it's hard.

[A]

Yeah. But you think that, like, CBS has the. Has that footage?

[C]

Oh, yes. Somewhere. For sure. But now people will just upload the full game on YouTube, like, right. As soon as it's done.

[A]

Yeah. Do they stay up?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's cool.

[B]

That's one of the funny things I've done. So, like. Like. Like, sometimes my kids will ask, like, let me see some of the. Because I'll never watch my highlights. And so I. I threw some on one one night. We was all drinking as a family, and. And not the kids, but, like, all the adults. And we had. Again, we threw some highlights on. I was like, damn. I was that dude.

[A]

Yeah. It must be fun.

[B]

It was, because, you know, you'll watch it while you're.

[A]

While you're still playing. Be like, damn, look how sick that was.

[B]

No, that's. It's like a. I just never. It was never like. It. The ego wasn't that big, but, like. And so I never. I never go back and watch him, but when you do, you know, man, you know, it was. It was fun. It was a fun time. Fun time in my life. Feels like a wholly totally different life, though, like.

[A]

And you still. You don't miss it?

[B]

No. No. That hurts, though. Yeah. That shit's painful because I imagine I'm. I'm very comfortable in the studio talking about the Tate brothers with Eric and. What's your real name again?

[C]

Big T is my government name.

[A]

Big T. You are wearing an understated hat today, though.

[C]

Yeah. These are new from 47. I like them.

[A]

I came in and I was like, is Big T. Is that, like, a rollback thing? What is that?

[B]

It's just a.47 is a company, correct?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I thought that was a Trump thing, though.

[A]

Oh. For presence, the brand.

[B]

That's why I was looking at yours. I was like, what? The. Is you? No.

[A]

Yeah. It's a brand. It's been a brand for a long time.

[C]

Could be a great crossover, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now 45. 47.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you wrote 45 with a dash right in front of that, then I.

[B]

I thought that's what it was. That makes perfect sense. I didn't. This one didn't make. It really tracked me because I didn't know you're not the biggest Trump fan. Yeah.

[A]

And if. If you make your entire personality a politician, you're a loser.

[B]

I agree with that.

[A]

Because they don't care about you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So before we get to Andrew Luck, Andrew Tate, I know there's one other news story. I just brought it up right as we were taking a quick coffee break. Big T wants to discuss a little bit more. So we'll talk about a little bit. An infowars reporter was killed in Austin, Texas two days ago. And I saw Alex Jones video about it right when it happened. And he immediately blamed the. The D A in Austin for the murder. And since then he's kind of gone. If you're wondering like is Alex going to keep the same energy when it comes to somebody close to him, we kind of have our answer that he kind of, kind of is. He's saying that it's a possibility that he was on a Ukrainian hit list. And Alex is saying that he personally, Alex Jones is on the list. And now he's heard information saying that Jamie White, the reporter, was being targeted by Ukrainian hitmen. Because of all their discussion that they've had about the Ukraine, Russia war. The Austin police are saying a different story that are saying that there were car burglaries and that he went out there, interrupted the burglary, got shot. So they're looking for the car burglars. So depending on what side you are giving more credence to the detectives working on the case or Alex Jones, it's either Ukraine, a hitman or a car burglar. Where I have, I have just a small amount of insight about this.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because the apartment complex that he lived in, literally right around the corner from the first apartment complex I lived in in Austin, Texas.

[B]

Oh wow.

[A]

It was probably a five minute walk for me. Not a good part of town.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

There were break ins or burglaries all the time at my place, his part of town, maybe even a little bit worse than the place that I stayed. So a burglary would not be like. Yeah, there were burglaries every single day there. So that's, that's the only insight that I have. Not a great part of town.

[B]

So you're saying from your vantage point.

[A]

I'm not saying what it was, I don't know, the investigation, obviously outside perspective.

[B]

You're saying there's some, there's some higher probability that the cops are telling the truth.

[A]

I'd say that cars were broken into on a daily basis in my apartment complex parking lot when I lived there, there was actually one time it was pretty sick, was coming home from summer. I. I had, I had Leroy in my truck with me, right. And Leroy, that's was when he was as beefiest. He was probably like 175, 180 pounds.

[B]

That's too big.

[A]

He was a great dog, though. So this is why dogs are great, Arian. So I park my truck, and as I get out of the car, there are these two guys at a car right next to me. And I pull in, and then they stop doing whatever they're doing at that car. And actually, no, it's just one guy. It's one guy that stops when he's been in that car, walks around his car, comes up to me as I'm getting out. He's like, hey. Hey, man. What's up? What's up? I'm like, nothing. Like, it's a weird interaction that we're having. And as he's saying that, I'm like, let me just get my dog out real quick. So I open up the back door, get Leroy out. He steps out of the car. This guy saw Leroy, and he just immediately backed off, Stop. And he, like, goes away.

[B]

Might have been me.

[A]

He goes back to his truck. He was like, I'm not. I'm not with whatever this hellhound is that just stepped out. And Leroy, by the way, was just big. He wouldn't, like, hurt a fly or anything like that. But when he looked at him, you're like, this dog could kill me if he wanted to.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So he just backs up, goes to his car. Then I start walking down to my apartment. And as I'm walking down, he's. This guy starts yelling at me again. He's like, hey, hey, which apartment do you live in? But he's yelling it, like, really loud. Like, really loud. I mean, we're not that far away. I'm like, this is a strange thing. I'm just gonna ignore and keep going. I'm like, I'm going to my house. So as I'm going to my house, my immediate next door neighbor door right next to mine, there's like a little pillar in between ours that opens up. A guy comes out, and he's got an Xbox under his arm. And he sees me and he just puts his head down. And then he wipes the door. The doorknob off real quick with his shirt. And then he leaves. And I'm like, I'm getting the inside. I don't know what's going on right now. So then I walk outside later, and I see that that door had been knocked off the hinge. So those guys had just broken in there. But that's. Yeah, it was. I think I was paying 700amonth in rent. And it was like one of the nicer apartments in that particular complex.

[C]

That's not that cheap for what was that 20 years ago, it was.

[A]

It was a. No, it was very cheap. It was two bedroom.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah, it's a two bedroom apartment. Also, it's poolside. Not to brag sick, but yeah, it was. It was not a good place to live. And I've been back there a few times. Still not a great neighborhood. That's the only insight I have is that there are. There are burglaries.

[B]

Has he provided any evidence that Ukraine was involved in this guy's murder?

[A]

I think just sources. I think he said that General Flynn has told him and General Flynn was former. I think former NSA for the first Trump administration.

[B]

Michael Flynn.

[A]

Yeah, there's Michael Flynn. There's General Flynn, then his son. General Flynn's big. Big Pizzagate guy.

[B]

Guy.

[A]

Big q. Yeah, big QAnon guy.

[B]

I think we should do an episode on Pizza Gate.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, because I've never really coming back. Yeah, I've never really looked into it, but like, there's this dude I like following, you know, some alternate accounts that don't align with my views. Dude named Ian Carroll.

[A]

I'm sure you heard him.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, he was just on Rogan, but I have been following him for like a year or so like that. And he's like laid out why he thinks Pizzagate is a real thing.

[A]

It's real.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. And I don't. I don't know enough to combat it, so I don't know enough about it.

[A]

So. Yeah, what I know about Pizzagate is the guy broke into the comet ping pong tried to shoot it up. I think he fired a shot and then they arrested that guy. Then everyone kind of stopped talking about it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It all stems back to the. The Podesta emails, like the leak from the Click campaign.

[B]

And they were like 400,000 hot dogs ordered or some shit like that.

[A]

$50,000 with hot dogs. Which. $50,000 with hot dog. I could see that at a big party. Giant party.

[B]

I mean, it is a lot of hot dogs.

[A]

It is a lot of hot dogs. So, yeah, I don't know. I don't know where Alex is going to go with this one.

[B]

I think it's shitty on his part if, if. Unless he has direct evidence. Like, I don't, like, I don't know either way. Don't really care either. I mean, sucks that somebody lost a family member from that aspect. And the human standpoint. Yeah, I care. But as. But if he's you. Because he hasn't learned his lesson. He did this with Sandy Hook and you're using, like, death to push a narrative. And you know this dude, so that's even worse. So if. If he does have evidence, that's what's up. But if not. But God, it's a piece of move.

[A]

Which sucks. Is that if this guy died. Well, he did die. This guy dies, and then his entire death just becomes about Alex Jones.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And you knew him. You know what I mean? That's. That's the worst. And now he's. Now his family's mourning, and you over here saying it's Ukraine is involved. Like, bro.

[A]

Yeah. He said, well, this is back in 2024. Alex. Wait, no. Jamie White, the guy that got killed, said, I'm on the Ukrainian enemies list due to my work at Infowars. And Alex Jones on the Ukraine proxy war.

[B]

So explain this to me, because I never really got into the Ukraine, Russia war. It seems as though the right is really leaning into Ukraine being bad guys. That's what it looks like from an outside perspective. And I even saw a tweet by Elon Musk calling. Was it Mark Kelly? Mark Kelly is a. I think the astronaut. Yeah, the astronaut. That's. That's. He has some office in Arizona.

[A]

I think he's a senator.

[B]

Senator. And he said, I went to Ukraine. I saw Ukraine, saw the people. It's devastating. These people still need help. Yada, yada, that kind of thing. Right. Elon tweeted, traitor. You're a traitor. And I'm like, I can understand you feeling like we shouldn't send aid to Ukraine, but to call a senator a traitor is a step in a weird direction.

[A]

Centers go to war zones all the time.

[B]

It's a step in a weird direction to call somebody who the US has been aiding a traitor. Yeah, that's what. I just have not looked into it. That's a wild take to me.

[A]

That is crazy. Elon is just. He's everywhere.

[B]

He's.

[A]

I think he's on a big, big ketamine slash power trip right now. Yeah, he's his. He tweets all the time.

[B]

Yeah, he's on Twitter all the time.

[A]

And I think he. He gooses some of his numbers to, like, he. He's actually, like, admitted this, that he's increased the likelihood that his tweets show up in people's algorithms.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And on your for you page. Check that out. The other day, a lot of Elon. So I clicked on Elon's profile because I want to see him apologize for up Twitter on NFL Free agency day. And I started scrolling back through his posts. This guy is posting 24 hours a day.

[B]

Yeah, he's. He tweets a lot.

[A]

Like 24 hours a day, every 20 minutes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This man is. He is addicted to posting.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

And that's addition to his like five other jobs, which is why I don't.

[B]

Think he does anything. Anything. Yeah, I think you get rich enough to where the companies or you hire people to run it and you just take the credit, which is.

[A]

And just show up.

[B]

Yeah. It tracks for his. Yeah, man, I don't know. Did we ever talk about the Zelensky thing and Trump the White House made it in office?

[E]

I don't think we did.

[A]

Yeah, they just, they, they kind of double teamed Zelensky.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In the White House.

[B]

What did you think about that, Big T? Did you see it?

[C]

Yeah, I saw it. I don't. In what way? What do you mean?

[B]

Whatever. Well, because from my perspective, I don't got a dog in a fight. I'm not pro Ukrainian and I'm not like pro Trump and JD Vance, but I want America to do well. From my perspective, it was like one. Why would you. From a critique of Zelensky, why would you have this conversation in front of people? And then from a critique of like J.D. vance, he's like, why you. So you try and big boy him, you know what I mean? Like, I understand you're the Vice President of the United States of America. You nobody would question America's power in the world. Right. So why are you talking to the President of the Ukrainian people and saying you didn't even thank us? Like, that's just such a. It's a sucker move on my end. Like, outside of politics, if I lend you money and we in front of mixed company and I'm like, dog, did you even thank me for that bread I gave you, bro? It's a big boy move that's on some. Like, bro, you didn't have to do that. Like, I would check my homeboy if he did that.

[C]

I think there was some of that going on. Like, they wanted to have a clip. But Biden was reportedly furious with Zelensky for being very demanding and unthankful. It seems he may have a pattern of doing that. He was, he was being kind of antagonistic. Like, I don't, I don't really care. I wish we would quit sending billions of dollars to Ukraine. But like the. Trump and Vance were not the first people to be frustrated with Zelensky for his demands.

[A]

I got you Yeah, I think that there's room to. To criticize how much money and how much. How many weapons we're sending over there and all that shit. I think that's. That's totally fair, and we should be asking those questions. But I also, like, maybe it goes back to, like, when the war started. Zelensky, kind of a badass.

[B]

That's another thing.

[A]

Like, when they were bombing Keef at the start of it. And, like, it looked like the entire country of Ukraine was about to be run over in about three days until they stopped that invasion at the airport. But it was. It looked like everything was about to get crushed in. In Kiev and that Zelensky was going to be killed when he was just like, fuck you. I'm going to stay in my office, and here's a video of me walking from my window to my office. I'm not leaving.

[B]

That was.

[A]

That was pretty badass.

[B]

But this is another thing where I was like, yo, I fucked with that. Like, I put myself in his shoes, right? That's the number one thing about empathy. Put yourself in somebody else's shoes. I put myself in his shoes. Here's the leader of the most powerful nation the world has ever seen, and they sitting here saying, why didn't you dress up? And he's in the middle of a war, and to my knowledge, this could be propaganda. But didn't he actually fight in this shit?

[A]

I don't think. I don't think he's fought, but I. I do think that he said that he's not gonna wear a suit until the war's over.

[B]

Okay. It was. It was of my understanding that he has actually fought in some wars.

[A]

I don't know what his military background.

[B]

Can you fact check that for me, man? All right, so. So. But he's sitting in there, his country's at war, and he's sitting there in front of the most powerful country, and he's like, no, I'll. I'll. What did he say exactly? He was like, I'll. I'll put on your costume when the war is over. That was, to me, one of the dopest things that he said, because it's like, suits are a. I've always kind of looked down on suits. It's just like a. It's a fake way to show suit.

[C]

He won you over with that?

[B]

He didn't win me over. I don't, like. I don't care about this in the sense of like, I'm gonna go do thousands of hours of research. I'm just not interested in, like, that, but just, like, as a human being, from outside perspective. That's not. I'm not. I don't have a. I don't have a bias in this, because I'm not. Definitely not pro Trump, definitely not pro Ukraine. I don't know enough about it, but, like, just looking at two people having a conversation, Zelensky seemed more sensible, for sure. But it's the way that he responded to me that. That is a dope move, because I'm thinking about, okay, I got people in Ukraine that are watching me, right? They're looking at me. So, like, a big part of leadership is, like, how do you respond in situations? How can he, like, bend the knee and his people are looking at him while they're in the middle of a war.

[A]

I think.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

I think. I mean, if you look at how Trump deals with people on an interpersonal level, I think if he's in a negotiation with you, which he is, you got to big boy him somehow right off the bat. And so the fact that he wasn't wearing a suit, he. He says something and right off the bat about that, if he had worn a suit, even though he said to his countrymen, I'm not going to get dressed up or wear a suit until this war is over. If he had put on a suit, then Trump would have been like, oh, look at you getting all dressed up for us. This must be a very important meeting, because you normally don't wear suits.

[B]

Damn it, if you do. Damn.

[A]

Yeah, I think it. He. He would have gone at him one way or the other.

[C]

He says he'll do a lot of stuff when the war's over, maybe quit canceling the elections, all sorts of stuff.

[B]

Isn't that in their constitution, though?

[A]

It is.

[C]

The parliament agreed that they don't have to have one.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Also, he has. He did not serve in the military.

[B]

He didn't. Okay. So that's propaganda on my. On my end.

[A]

Yeah. I think the Klitschko brothers, they did.

[B]

Is that the boxers?

[A]

Boxers, yeah. They're like it. I think they might be in the ministry or something. They have high, high positions over there.

[B]

That's great.

[A]

Imagine you're, like, storming into Ukraine, you're being told this is a liberation movement. They're going to greet you with roses when you walk in. And then you walk into a trench and you've got Vitaly Klitschko and you have to fight that guy.

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[A]

One other kind of weird story, Big T. Wait, wait.

[C]

Real quick, real quick. Do you, like you said you're not pro Ukraine. You're not. Whatever. Do you think they can win a war of attrition against Russia with our help, just period?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Really?

[B]

With our help? Yeah.

[C]

Okay, then I get. Then I guess the conversation just ends there then.

[B]

Okay, you don't think. What do you mean?

[A]

A war of attrition is like having Russia exhaust all the resources and they're sick of the forever war, and then they just give.

[C]

Right. And you think Russia is going to get to that point before Ukraine?

[A]

No, you said Afghanistan beat them.

[B]

You gave me a. You gave me a hypothetical. If we are backing them. Yeah, of course.

[C]

Okay, so if we back them to the nth degree, then they could. So, so your answer is just send more. Send more always.

[B]

No, no, that was not the premise of your question.

[C]

Well, but that's the, that's necessary to your answer. You're like, well, if we keep giving them as much as it takes, then yeah. Well, then you said can. Then we're just fighting.

[B]

You said, can they? And I said, yeah, they can with.

[C]

An unlimited backing from the United States.

[B]

If you say, if we stop backing them, can they win? No, obviously not.

[C]

So that. So the only way your answer is yes is we fund it endlessly.

[B]

I think, I think you're asking it in a. In a nefarious way.

[C]

Well, no, the reason I asked that is because the answer is either no, and then the next logical question is, well, then what the fuck are we doing?

[B]

I don't want to seem like I'm apathetic towards people dying, because I'm not. Right. I'm a humanist. I am desensitized to a degree in this era. But like, to the extent that I don't have a dog in that fight, I don't care. Like, so it's. I think you think I'm like a liberal who.

[C]

No, I was. When you said, like, I, I don't really. I'm not pro Ukraine, whatever. I was asking to genuinely the least, I, I wanted to know what your answer to that question is.

[B]

They can absolutely fend off Russia with our help. They have been. That's a small country.

[C]

Right. But then they can because we're just endlessly funding it.

[A]

I don't think they can do it on their own.

[B]

Echo in here. I think.

[A]

I don't think they can do it on their own. But even if the US Decides, okay, you're not getting another penny in equipment from us, I think Europe is still. The rest of Europe is still giving them money.

[B]

They have taken us.

[A]

They'll be able to.

[C]

My understanding is that they're not really getting any money from the eu.

[A]

They're getting some.

[C]

How much?

[A]

I. I don't know how much, but I know that like the F16s. I think those came from Poland or maybe Scandinavia.

[B]

Yeah, I'm about your question. What is your actual question? Because I'm saying, yeah, they can if we back them.

[C]

Well, but that's.

[B]

Is that surprising?

[C]

That's a circular answer. No. Will it just. Then that leads to.

[B]

Wait, hold on. Is your question. Is it possible. Is that what you. I don't really understand the premise of your question.

[C]

No, my, my question was if they can't do it, then what the are we doing spending all this money and sending them tanks and all sorts of stuff. If they can, then that's different. But your reasoning for them being able to is that we're still doing that. So it's, it's like a. It's a circular answer.

[B]

Am I hearing him wrong? Am I up?

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

I have, I have a question for Big T, though. Big T. Would it be better or worse for the United States if Russia just took over Ukraine?

[C]

I think that's a false premise.

[A]

Do you think it'd be exactly the same?

[C]

I align with Obama on this. I don't think it really matters.

[A]

You don't think it affects anything?

[C]

Not much, no. I don't.

[A]

I think, I don't know. That's. It's a hard one to answer because then you're like speaking in the future. Talk about hypotheticals.

[C]

What do you think would change in.

[A]

The United States if Russia took over.

[C]

Ukraine in this, like, worst case scenario, which I'm not convinced. Or seed would happen? Yes.

[A]

I think Russia would then move on and try to take over more land and keep pecking away at Europe.

[B]

That was my understanding. That was the reason why we even intervened in the first place. I don't, like, I gotta say I don't know enough about it, but that was my understanding. You. I don't know enough about it, though.

[C]

So is there, is there a point at which you would say maybe this is no longer in our interest?

[A]

I don't think that we should ever even consider Sending a single troop over there, like, to, to fight in that war. We have military advisors, what they call them, but we're mostly providing intelligence and money and being like, hey, here's where the, the tanks are, here's where the, the trucks are.

[C]

But monetarily, is there. Is there any point at which you would say, if, if we've sent them a trillion dollars years and this is still going on, should we keep a.

[A]

Trillion dollars worth of equipment in total?

[C]

Aid in total?

[A]

I. I don't. I don't. I don't know. I. I don't know. That's the answer. Like, I don't.

[C]

But it's a yes or no question. Is there a point at which you'd say enough is enough?

[A]

Yeah, we shouldn't be giving money? Well, you have to weigh it with the future consequences, what those would be. Okay, so if the future consequences are, then Russia takes over Europe.

[C]

It sounds like your answer is no.

[A]

No. I mean, I don't know the answer. I don't know how much in terms of cash we've sent. I don't know. It's actually a very complicated thing to be. Like, we have our defense contractors sending over stuff that has already been paid for and that's going to Ukraine, and now we have to pay the defense contractors to replenish the supplies, that sort of thing. Okay, so. I don't know. I don't know. All I know is that I have way more sympathy for Ukraine than I do for Russia.

[C]

I'm also seeing the EU has given 145 billion to Ukraine. I believe we're well in excess of that.

[B]

That makes sense for them, though, right?

[C]

In what way?

[A]

All of them, for the same reason.

[C]

Combined, have given Ukraine 145 billion. We've given them 3, 400.

[B]

No, I'm saying it makes sense for, for the EU to have participated in aiding them.

[C]

Well, I would argue it would make sense for them to have participated far more than us.

[B]

But we have ties to, to Europe as well, right?

[C]

So. So does the European Union.

[B]

That's. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[C]

I know, but they're. They have a far more vested interest in this than we do.

[B]

Well, we're bigger than them. Doesn't that make sense?

[C]

So is your argument that we should just fund any, any war with any sort of proximal interest?

[A]

You're.

[B]

You're conflating my understanding of why we're doing it versus my wanting to do any of this shit. Because I'll pull all foreign aid, doggy and that includes all the 150 military bases we have around. Probably more than that, in every country in the world, including Israel. All this shit. Pull all this shit. But I think people are very strategically aligned with what we do and don't fund. Okay. For their own reasons. Like, I, like, if. If. I know, I know there's some right wingers that are super right and moderately right that are like, yeah, let's pull all foreign aid. I'm with that. America first. I'd be okay with that.

[C]

It just seems apparent to me more than, like, any other conflict we've ever been involved in, that this one has no end in sight.

[B]

No, that's not true.

[A]

I mean, Vietnam, Iraq, Israel, we were. We were on the ground.

[C]

Correct? Those are, Those are wars we were in. We don't. We're not even in this.

[A]

Well, hypothetically, we did. We did fund Afghanistan against the ussr.

[C]

Okay. How long did that last?

[A]

I'm not sure how long it lasted.

[B]

But, I mean, Afghanistan won funding Israel since 1995.

[C]

That's. That's not a.

[B]

That's a war that we're not in. This is. This is your, Your substrate. What do you mean by your definition of what we should or shouldn't give? Yeah.

[C]

How much money we give people. We give, ever. Almost every country in the world money every year. Not in an ongoing context.

[B]

I'm not talking about what Israel is. That's what I'm saying currently.

[A]

And we give.

[B]

Since the inception.

[C]

They've been in the Congress a lot of times. Yes, we give Israel, but that's why.

[A]

A lot more money.

[B]

That's what. Yeah. And we've been backing them for. Since they have been in existence. So I think it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's whatever the US Deems strategically appropriate. And so it's, it's. I guess at the end of the day, it'll be a matter of opinion of. Of what we deem necessary or not necessary to give foreign aid to.

[C]

I was just curious if y'.

[B]

All.

[C]

If y' all think there's. There's any point at which you would say this needs to stop, or if you're in favor of, like, if this goes on for another 15 years, we should keep doing it for 15 years?

[A]

No, I would not like to be. I hope that this doesn't last 15 years.

[B]

I'm anti war in general, so I don't think anything that aids a war is good. But if this war stops other wars, then that's the Trolley problem.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The difference with the trolley problem is there's two concrete choices. This, like you say, it prevents otherwise.

[A]

We don't know that everything has the butterfly effect. Yeah, we don't know.

[B]

But is it. Isn't it? Has Putin stated that he wanted to expand? Right.

[A]

Well, he was saying that the people of Eastern Ukraine want to be Russian citizens. He was saying that the government is corrupt. He was saying that they're Nazis, which, by the way, the Azov battalion in Ukraine. They are. Yeah, Neo Nazis for sure. But yeah, he was saying that this is a mission to restore land, that the citizens of that land want to be Russian.

[B]

Right. Foreign politics is a bag. And sometimes it's like when you start to look into some of this stuff, it's like, I think both sides could be pieces of shit, and you have to pick a good or a bad one. And a lot of like, it's just. It's just too much to delve into to. To have any kind of really a real opinion on it. Like I said, I don't. I don't really. It's not really my bag. I don't really know, but good times, man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Fun to be a human right now.

[A]

I think you're right. It's like whoever politically and strategically you're backing, you will send them money for a war that doesn't relate to you.

[B]

And that could be ideological. It could be. Could be, yeah. Geo. Like, geo. Geo. Geopolitically.

[A]

Geopolitical.

[B]

Geopolitically relevant to your, like, resources, stuff like that. We do. We do that a lot. Yeah.

[C]

So I guess to. To answer your question earlier about would it affect the United States, do you think it affected the United States at all when they did this in Crimea?

[A]

Yeah, because then that. That made Putin try to take more land later.

[C]

But it didn't have a concrete effect on the United States.

[A]

I think it probably did in terms of trade, because when they took the Crimea, then they have now a port on the Black Sea. They're probably to export a lot more minerals, a lot more oil. And then I think it encouraged him to take more later. That's what the argument is. If you let him take land and you say, okay, you're done taking this land, then in a couple years they'll get ready again, they'll take more land.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

It's wild reading history books and you're like. Like before land was, you know, carved out and everybody's okay, this is where everybody at. And then now, like in. In modern day, to hear a leader of a Country be like, we want to expand. It's just odd to me. Like, what, what, what. What is the goal?

[A]

Resources you get. You get land, you get mining rights, you get access to water, you get access to ports.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know if. About Russian topography to know if it's mineral rich.

[A]

There's just a lot of land over there. By the way, chaps had a very fun fact today. What is the only country in the world that doesn't have or that has more horses than people?

[B]

People. Only country in the world have more horses than people. Is it a known country?

[A]

Like it is a known country.

[C]

Well, I'm assuming it's not the one that he had the other day. I'm going to guess Luxembourg.

[A]

It is not.

[B]

Okay, I'm gonna go with Switzerland.

[A]

It is not Switzerland.

[C]

Slovenia.

[A]

It's very close to a place we were just talking about.

[C]

Slovakia.

[A]

It's close to. It touches Russia. There's your hint.

[C]

Georgia.

[B]

No, I don't know what the touch.

[A]

Mongolia. Oh, more horses. And folks out there, the free.

[B]

Free horses.

[A]

Yeah, they got wild horses also. Their throat singing is pretty impressive. You ever listen to that?

[B]

No.

[A]

Let me put you on Mongolian throat singing.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Look this up later. Don't listen to it now, but listen to some of their throat singers later. They make this deep sound using their vocal cords.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it produces. It's deep, like very. It's a baritone voice, but also produces harmonics that are like an octave, two octaves higher.

[B]

Really?

[A]

As they're able to do it. Yeah.

[B]

So they harmonize with themselves.

[A]

It's kind of a harmony. It's. Yeah. Octave octaves. So it's like.

[B]

Oh. So okay.

[A]

Both those notes at the same time and it sounds way better.

[B]

Like a chord. They're. They're singing a chord.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's wild. Yeah. Unrelated but related. I have been obsessed with watching horseshoe cleaning videos lately on YouTube.

[E]

So.

[B]

Good.

[A]

What is it like getting the mud out of a horse?

[B]

Yeah. Just changing all shit. Clipping the nails, cleaning the. Cleaning the hoof. Putting horseshoes back on the whole. The whole.

[E]

Take the horseshoe.

[B]

Oh, my God. You talking about. Fascinating.

[A]

Oddly. Oddly satisfying.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Oh, wait.

[B]

Pft.

[E]

You would love.

[A]

Wait, why would I. Why is this. Pft. You would love horseshoe cleaning. What about me?

[B]

Because you're small.

[E]

Oh, I wasn't gonna say that.

[B]

I was taking a guess. I don't know why he would like.

[E]

No, because it's like, I feel like.

[B]

Oh, yeah. You're like a jockey.

[A]

This is salt.

[E]

Now that I bring it up.

[A]

No I'd be the. I'd be the shack of jockeys.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I think you're way too big to be a jack.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. The horse would look at me and.

[C]

They'D be like, you're not way too big. You might be a little too big.

[A]

How much do you think jockeys weigh? My guess is like 110 pounds, 30.

[B]

Yeah. Go to height.

[A]

Jockeys are all like five. They're like shorter than me.

[E]

Jockeys do not weigh more than, than 125 pounds.

[A]

And they're all like 5 1, 5, 2.

[E]

Yeah. I'd say 5, 2 is even pushing it, though.

[B]

There is no height limit for jockeys. They're usually fairly short due to weight limits. Jockeys racing on flat. On the flat typically stand around 4 foot 10 to 5 foot 7 jump. Jockeys are often taller with multiple examples of over 5, 10.

[E]

There's a bro's way too big to be a jockey.

[A]

Yeah. I'm way too big.

[B]

Wait, Wade's doing a lot of heavy.

[A]

I would be the biggest jockey in the world.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know that I would be.

[E]

But I just feel like that's something that, like you could get behind is like watching someone clean the horseshoe. It's very. It's very satisfying telling you, man, give it.

[B]

Give it a run.

[E]

I'm like, and it doesn't hurt the horse?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

People ask because they're like carving into the foot.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

So you think it hurt, but it's like clipping.

[B]

Their nails are made out of sink stuff, as our nails are. That's like video said. I haven't fact checked it.

[A]

It's actually uncomfortable for them when they don't get it clipped.

[B]

Yes. Yes.

[C]

So.

[B]

And I also learned this because when you let it go and they're in captivity, they grow like elf shoes almost. Right. They grow up and it makes it very uncomfortable for the horses. And they can get affected, stuff like that. In the wild, they just run. And that's kind of like. It's like biting their own nails. Right. They do it themselves. And so. And so, like, there's a. There's a point in their foot where it does hurt them, but it's just like you, like if you cut your nail to too short.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It hurts.

[A]

So you gotta know what you're doing.

[B]

Yeah. Know what you're doing. And it's fascinating, dog. It'll fuck your algorithm up, though.

[A]

That's it all. It'll feed me.

[B]

Yeah. On my YouTube shorts right now. That's all that pops up is horse videos.

[C]

Have you watched rug cleaning?

[E]

So good.

[B]

Never watch.

[C]

You'd like rug cleaning.

[B]

Never watch rug cleaning.

[C]

They're good.

[B]

I'm in a rug cleaning. My thing is I did grass videos for a while.

[E]

Grass is good, too.

[B]

Yeah. Shout out to S.B. moy.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

You watch them.

[E]

I love that.

[B]

My guy, though, and he.

[E]

He like, he started a goat fund me for that woman. And they raised like $50,000.

[B]

I would love to cut a yard with him. Yeah, that would be fun. Because he's in Texas. Amy.

[E]

I don't know.

[A]

Actually, he's a good guy.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Probably just shows up most people's lives for free.

[B]

I mean, he gets content out of it, but it's like, shit, that's amazing. Yeah. And he does a really good job. Yeah, I would definitely. S.B. moen, if you're a Macro Dojian, man, I would love to.

[E]

He does pressure washing, too.

[B]

He does. Yeah. A pressure wise.

[C]

I love that.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I would love double whammy.

[B]

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[A]

Let's get it done.

[B]

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[A]

You guys want to talk about Andrew Tate?

[B]

Not really, but let's do it.

[A]

Okay. Let's just get. We talked about it a bit with Jerry earlier, so let's just get up to speed with where he's at right now. So in 2022, he got arrested in Romania along. There were two Romanian women that he was with that also got arrested, arrested, got charged with human trafficking, rape, and forming a criminal gang to sexually exploit women. They were under house arrest and then judicial control, and they were not allowed to leave the country. Remember when he ordered that pizza and they found out where he was because of was that.

[B]

I heard that was a fake pizza box.

[A]

I choose to believe that it's true.

[B]

Okay. I.

[A]

This might be. This is me willingly possibly accepting misinformation. It's a funnier story.

[B]

Yeah, I saw. Like I said, I don't care enough about agitate to, like, go ahead and do my due diligence on. On the pizza story, but I heard that was not how that happened.

[A]

So he first became famous in 2016 because he was on Big Brother on the British version.

[E]

I didn't know that.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, he was a kickboxer yeah.

[B]

Was he good? What was his record?

[A]

I don't know. Can we look that up? I don't know if he was good or not, but, yeah, he was on Big Brother in 2016, but he got kicked off Big Brother.

[E]

76 and 9.

[B]

76.

[E]

9 and 1 sounds good to me.

[A]

So he's. He was nice with it. Okay, so he got kicked off Big Brother because there was a video that came out that appeared to show him attacking a woman. I. I've seen the video. It's pretty brutal. But he. His explanation is like, this was either, like, we were doing role play and this was heavy hands, and I don't know, it was. It's a bad video to watch. So.

[B]

Now that I did look at. Yeah, she was underage.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

In that video.

[A]

Not good.

[B]

Yeah, bad. But she said. But she still defends him and says it was consensual and they were role playing.

[A]

Okay. But she was underage.

[B]

Allegedly.

[A]

So then he started a webcam business in England, and then he moved to Romania to expand his webcam business, which I guess he just has women that work for him doing live webcams, and then he gets some of the money that they make.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And his brother Tristan. How would you feel if you were Tristan Tate? Like, your brother is the one. You're both doing the same shit, but your brother is way more famous.

[C]

I think that's why he hitched his wagon to Andrew.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

At first, the only things I heard about Andrew Tate was just him. And then a brother popped up, and I was like, well, he may as well get in on one of the.

[B]

More awkward videos ever seen is them recently in a hotel in Florida somewhere, and him and his brother were just explaining how unbothered they were. And that was weird, though.

[A]

Not bothered by, like, the news.

[B]

Yeah. Because I guess Marco Rubio disallowed them in Florida.

[A]

And meatballs get out. Ron Desantis, he's. He's investigating them too.

[B]

Yeah. And I think. I think the video starts out with Andrew Tate dancing, like a cha cha slide kind of thing. And then his. He was clapping. And then, you know, and I don't know. And maybe it's because I don't really like him. He got, like, an annoying cadence in a voice, and then. And in that, he was just explaining how unbothered he was.

[A]

I remember when I. When I first saw Andrew Tate, it was like 2018, I think somebody showed it to me. There was a tick tock of him, and it was like, look how crazy this is. And he Was saying some wild. And we watched it. We were laughing because it was like, so nuts what he was saying about, like, it was anti women. It was like, I can't. He was saying basically, like, women should never leave the kitchen. Like, the most by the book, textbook definition of misogyny. And it was just so outrageous that this guy was saying he looked like a. Like a fool. Like, he was. He had the big sunglasses on, and I think he was shirtless. And he was aggressive, like gesturing with a cigar. And it was like, I can't believe that this guy's saying this. This is wild. And then like, everyone laughed at it when it first came out. And then gradually people were like, maybe they shouldn't leave. You see enough of it and you laugh enough at it. And then people eventually are like, it makes some good points.

[B]

You know, that's what. When earlier we were talking to Jerry, you were like, you talk about Logan, Paul and stuff, and they're like, oh, it's just a master marketer. And I just. I hate when people do that because nowadays master marketing is just trolling.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's not masterful. It's not genius. You just troll people until you get enough attention.

[A]

And by the way, when. When I'm telling that. So I'm not saying that I watch Andrew Tate and I'm like, oh, he makes him good. I'm saying, like, the population at large.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You see enough of them.

[B]

Disassociate yourself.

[A]

And then they. Then they start to. I. I think he's a piece of.

[C]

You brought up something. This is kind of related, but I. I'm a very big fan of the. For the most part, the judicial process in the United States. I like process things like that. I want YouTube creators whose whole thing is just going up and like, fucking up people's lives and like, being like, haha, isn't this funny? Like, they just go up and like, pour vats of milk on people in public. I want them extrajudiciously sent to Guantanamo Bay. No trial, nothing. You're. You're gone forever.

[B]

That's a wild thing.

[A]

I don't disagree. The YouTube prank video guys.

[C]

Yeah, but they're not pranks. They're like. They walk up to people, like, on the street and start shooting them in the face with Nerf guns.

[B]

Like, I haven't seen those.

[C]

Oh, dude, they do all sorts of. One guy, I forget exactly what he did, but he came up on a guy in a mall and started doing. Some guy pulled out a gun and shot him and he got The. The cops, right? Yeah. I mean, he. You. You asked for it.

[A]

That was. That was my old mall growing up.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. In Dulles Town center in Herndon, slash Sterling, Virginia. It was in the food court.

[C]

Love that.

[A]

The guy went up to him and was, like, in his face. He's like, get away from me. Back away from me. He was, like, freaked out. Shot him. I think the guy survived.

[C]

Yeah, he was okay.

[A]

He was okay afterwards.

[C]

And the guy, like, no charges or anything.

[A]

If you're. If you're that guy, though, which is fair. If you're that guy that got shot, you. You got to go back to the food court and try that prank again.

[C]

I think he went back to the. I think he went back to the pranking.

[B]

See, that's.

[A]

Didn't learn his lesson.

[B]

And you're like, I hate. I cannot stand the white guy. Goes to the hood.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Ah. Oh, my God. I hate that. Goes up to, what's up, bro? Yeah. And it's a dude standing on mining his business. Like, what's up, man? What are you looking at? And he's like, what the is you doing? Them. They deserve to get their ass whooped. Because I hate the.

[A]

The people. He goes up, they probably feel like, what the. Is going on right now?

[B]

Yeah, they're just. They're just minding their business. And, like, when you, like, bro, you, like, you could catch the wrong one. Like, you know, maybe. Maybe. Maybe just got laid off a job. Maybe he's struggling or maybe somebody just died or, you know, maybe going through something. And here are you just trying to provoke a fight to get clicks, Bro, you. Yeah, I hate those dudes.

[C]

You want them sent to Guantanamo with my guys?

[B]

Them?

[A]

Okay, so there was just a second indictment in 2024 against the brothers. 35 alleged victims of trafficking, including one who was 15 years old at the time. And then in December, there was a court that ruled that the case against the Tates and the two Romanian women could not go to trial because of multiple legal and procedurally irregularities by the prosecutors. He claims. Taking claims that the prosecutors have no evidence against him. But in England, they're both wanted by UK Authorities. They have asked for them to be extradited. There's a sexual aggression case in 2012. And in March 2024, they rearrested the Tates in Romania on a new European arrest warrant that the British authorities put out there. And it was related to accusations between 2012 and 2015. And they said that it decided not to bring charges earlier because the evidence did not meet Its legal test, but now it does. In 2024, there was a warrant that was granted to Bedfordshire police on allegations of rape and human trafficking. And the Romanian court says that the proceedings in Romania have to be concluded first.

[C]

Okay, real quick. I just need this explained to me because when they got like arrested in Romania or whatever, everything on the Internet was, these guys are going to prison forever. They're done. Then they're like out of jail. But they were still held in Romania. And they start making videos again and stuff. And now they're here, but people in Florida are saying, you got to get out. But they're still wanted in these other countries. But they were allowed to leave. I don't understand the whole situation.

[A]

So they got permitted to leave Romania, but they had to be under judicial supervision and they would have to appear before the judicial authorities at every summons. So they got approved to go back to the United States under the condition they'd be watched and that they would return when they were asked to return.

[B]

Watched by whom?

[A]

Judicial authorities or judicial supervision? I don't know. That's a pretty open end term. They're expected to go back to Romania this month. They have a court hearing. And so they traveled to Florida. The Romanian Anti Organized Crime Agency said prosecutors approved a request to modify the obligation preventing the defendants from leaving Romania, but the judicial control measures remain in place. So it sounds like there were pawns in some sort of negotiation over there. They are big fans of the Trump administration. I don't think it'd be crazy to say that, that he might have made a phone call or somebody made a phone call to get them back. And presidents negotiate to have people who are arrested in foreign countries get back all the time.

[B]

And I saw that as a split in. In the party.

[A]

Yeah. So the, the die hard Trump people, from my understanding, like the Tates. But there's a lot of Republicans that do not like the Tates too, because.

[B]

I mean, a lot of the big GOP thing right now is like, we gotta get this. The sex trafficking right there. Yeah. Against that. And these guys have sex trafficking allegations with them. And for Trump to say, yeah, come on, it's kind of like, what are you doing, bro? Yeah, that makes sense.

[A]

Yeah. So Ron Desantis said, like, you're not welcome in Florida.

[C]

Little.

[A]

Little Ron.

[B]

Was that his meatball Ron Meatball run?

[A]

I think he would. He might have been Lil Ron for a little bit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But Little gets tossed around a lot.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Little Marco, Little Eric.

[C]

Well, Eric, talk about somebody that just fell off hard.

[B]

Who that was your guy?

[C]

Yeah, I. He was a lot of people's guy. And then he just ran a horrific. I think. He's not. He. He doesn't have what it takes.

[A]

He was Diet Trump.

[C]

He tried to be Trump, but he's not charismatic. He can't smile like. He doesn't.

[E]

He.

[C]

He ain't got it. He's done.

[A]

I don't.

[C]

I don't know when he's done as governor of Florida, but he's. He's done. So.

[B]

So that's what's so interesting about the Trump thing, is he has created a movement in which the right is going to have to attach itself to for the foreseeable future after Trump. So the next Republican nominee is going to have to be maga.

[C]

I mean, it's going to be Vance.

[B]

Yeah, I would assume so.

[A]

So DeSantis said that they're not welcome in the state of Florida. And then Tate got mad at DeSantis. He said, you're attacking me because you're worried that I'm going to endorse Trump's surrogate congressman Byron Donalds in the state's next race for governor in 2026.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Whereas Meatball Ron Old DeSantis might want his wife to run for governor next.

[B]

Wait, time out. Why does he call the Meatball run?

[A]

Because he's. I don't know.

[B]

Is he Italian?

[C]

I think it was like.

[A]

I actually don't know. It's a good. That is one of the better nicknames that he has, though.

[B]

Oh, this is so funny, though, which is not real life life. We do. This is. Our adult society is not serious. Meatball.

[A]

Right. You gotta admit, that's a. That's a good. That's one of his better ones.

[B]

It's funny. Meatball. Sleepy Joe was a good one.

[A]

Sleepy Joe's good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Low energy.

[B]

Jeb had too many syllables for me, but I could understand how you fuck with it.

[A]

But it hit.

[B]

It did.

[C]

Donald Trump on Saturday said he wouldn't use the nickname Meatball Ron to describe Ron DeSantis, a likely rival for the Republican presidential nomination in 2024. In a truth Social post, the former president said it would be, quote, inappropriate to use the word meatball as a moniker which has been described as referring to DeSantis's appearance and carries connotations to his Italian lineage. So he said, I won't do it.

[A]

I'm not going to do it.

[B]

I'm not going to call him, because that would be racist. I should not call you Me Boron. So I'm not going to call you my boron.

[A]

I'm not going to talk about Chris Christie's weight. That'd be very mean.

[C]

Trump has used the term in casual conversations while also labeling the Florida governor, quote, shut down Ron, a reference to restrictions the governor put in place at the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic.

[A]

In casual conversations.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not for.

[C]

Not publicly.

[A]

He has not issued a declaration that he is henceforth known as Meatball Ron.

[C]

Well, you remember Ron Desanctimonious.

[A]

That was a good one, too. Yeah.

[B]

That's hilarious.

[C]

He has hits.

[A]

He does sometimes he.

[B]

I hate that he's so funny.

[A]

He reuses a lot of stuff.

[B]

That's hilarious.

[A]

I don't like it when he does, when he replaces old material. But Meatball Ron, you gotta. You gotta hand it to him.

[C]

He's been. He's been playing bangers for eight years. I know.

[A]

What's your favorite?

[C]

I mean, Little Marco was classic. And then Marco Rubio got in that gigantic chair. Do you remember that?

[A]

Yeah. Shouldn't have gotten that chair.

[B]

God, that was so bad.

[C]

Lion Ted.

[B]

Lion Ted was hilarious. That. That's. What's the most impressive thing is he has talked massive shits about these for years. And then as soon as he wins, they are the most drum banging Trump goers ever. It's just fascinating to me.

[A]

Well, in this one, this is. This is DeSantis splitting with Trump. This is like him.

[B]

Did he actually come out and say, I disagree with the President?

[A]

I don't think he said that. But this is a move that he knows will not be popular amongst the administration.

[B]

So you gotta draw a line somewhere. If it's not your wife, bro. It's. That's, it's this.

[A]

The Attorney General for Florida says that they've issued search warrants and subpoenas and now active inquiry. The guy said, this is. The Attorney General of Florida said last week I directed my office to work with law enforcement partners to conduct a preliminary inquiry into Andrew and Tristan Tate. Based on a thorough review of the evidence. I've directed the Office of Statewide Prosecution to execute search warrants and issue subpoenas in the now active criminal investigation to the Tate brothers. So who knows what they found? Who knows what they're looking for? But the Tate brothers filed a defamation lawsuit back in 2023 in Florida against a woman who accused them of imprisoning her in Romania. So might have something to do with that. There's a woman identified as Jane Doe that has made this accusation. So it might have something to do with that.

[B]

That. Damn.

[A]

Also, they went to Power Slap and UFC last weekend. I don't. I don't know if that's under judicial supervision or not.

[C]

Does anyone watch that?

[A]

They just watch the clips of Power Slap. I'm more of a fan of the dick kicking league.

[C]

That's a thing.

[A]

Oh, yeah, brother. That's next step up from Power Slap. Look it up. It's just got.

[C]

No, no, no protection.

[A]

I don't think you wear protection. No, you can't. That would ruin the integrity of the game.

[C]

Well, not if you're good enough kicker.

[A]

Yeah, that's true. But, yeah, if you look up the clips, it's just two guys standing next to each other.

[B]

All right.

[A]

You kick my dick. All right. That hurt a lot. I think it's pretty much whoever wins a coin toss.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Typically wins the.

[C]

Gonna want to get ball first.

[A]

It might as well just be a coin toss. Yeah, yeah, that was good. That was good.

[C]

Big T. It wasn't on purpose.

[A]

So, yeah, they. They might be just pawns in a trade war as well. There's a. British Culture Secretary, Nicky Morgan said the British government was cracking down on the Tate's online content and it could cost the country in trade talks with Trump, who wants to step back from regulation of social media platforms. So they have an online safety act and now they're worried that that could be used for bargaining during trade negotiations with Trump. And dc. There's a British censorship law that regulates online speech and Trump dislikes it because you can, if you're determined that a social media platform or tech company has run afoul of the censorship act, that the companies could be sued and get massive fines.

[C]

I just need to know, are these guys ever going to go to jail? Because it seems like they're accused of all these awful things, but then they're kind of just allowed to do whatever they want.

[A]

This is. I'm going to put a blanket statement out there. I feel like the judicial system in Romania might not be completely above board.

[C]

But they were complaining when they were first arrested that, like, this thing's so rigged in Romania, you'll never. They'll lock you away, throw away the key, you'll never see the light of day again.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And that it was. It was rigged against them.

[A]

Yeah, they were saying it was rigged against them, but then they got to pretty much work from home and then they got allowed to travel back to the us.

[C]

It seemed at the beginning like Romania was not around with them.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But now they're around. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So I don't know. I, I don't know what happens with the Romanian police.

[C]

And then the Desantis and Rubio were saying, you can't be in Florida yet. They're just hanging out in Florida.

[B]

Well, they left there.

[A]

Right. So they left Florida and they went to Nevada. And the Florida attorney general said, leaving the state is not going to stop our criminal investigation against you. We will continue working with law enforcement and our partners around the world to fight human trafficking and sexual abuse. So Florida is really going after him.

[B]

So they don't have. No, but do they have any evidence on. On them? Because this is what I mean, they keep slipping away. If there's something, they stick them. They haven't stuck them.

[A]

They've done a bunch of like, there's videos out there of Andrew Tate being like, yeah, this is how you pimp hoes, Right? Like admitting to being a pimp.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Now you can admit to being a pimp and being a bad guy, but that probably wouldn't be enough evidence to convict you of human trafficking. Women stepping forward, like, there's a lot of. You have to prove to be like, this is human trafficking.

[B]

And, and Florida's saying they on. They on it.

[A]

Yeah, Florida's. They're saying that they're on it.

[B]

Yeah. Man, it's hard, it's hard to, to know what to think because you would think if there was so much, something would have stuck across all these countries and all these countries and all these, you know, different judicial systems. Nothing has stuck yet.

[A]

There are a lot of people that, that are on the right, that are big Trump people that do not like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The Tates, because they're pieces of.

[B]

I mean, for good reason.

[A]

Yeah, they're, they're. I, I don't know what, what's gonna happen. The allegations, they're, they're big time pieces of, but they like prey on, on people who I think are, you know, they're, they're struggling with something or they're angry and they give you somebody to be angry at.

[B]

Fat. Jerry bought a shirt.

[A]

Jerry bought a shirt because he told him that he was fat.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Hey, you put the cheeses down. Yeah, he said, I put the cheese. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, you're right.

[C]

I should have been and argue with that.

[A]

I'm gonna buy your 120t shirt. And the Hustlers University thing is also another scam.

[B]

Yep. Coffeezilla looked into that. Yeah, he's like crypto kryptonite.

[A]

If Coffeezilla calls, just do not pick up. That's my advice. Actually, I I like, I think he does a very good job.

[B]

He's amazing.

[A]

He's really good.

[B]

He's amazing.

[A]

But people talk to him like that, that dude from the, the Libra coin or whatever. Just talk to him. Admitted to crimes.

[B]

Yes. Because I don't, I don't think, I think they want to vindicate them. So they don't think that. No, this isn't, this isn't bad. This is just, you know, it's part of the game.

[A]

They think they can talk their way out of anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They want to end up, like, marketing themselves in a good way.

[B]

Yeah, Well, I think, I think they really think that for the most part what they're doing is legal. And then he explains to them, like, you're robbing people.

[A]

Yeah. It's like, oh, shit. I never thought about it.

[B]

I was. Speaking of what you see, Kanye's going.

[A]

I saw the shirt.

[B]

He wanted to make a. It's called a swastikoin. Oh, my God. And he said, jewelers hit me up. I have an idea for a chain that's a swastika chain.

[E]

I thought he was done being a Nazi.

[B]

No, bro, he's double rippled down selling. He took all the shirts off his website and only has the swastika. And then I think whatever website that was distributed in it took that down. He has quadrupled down on the Nazi thing.

[C]

Do you think you can. I walked by a bar the other day and they were playing Good Life.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

And I was like, I can, I.

[B]

Can separate the art from the artist.

[C]

Yeah. It just seems like in a public setting, people, the people's mind is going to go to. Are you still allowed to play?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, like, let's say if, if, if Tesla I felt was the best electric car out and was like a luxury brand, I would keep Tesla. I don't care. I can separate the art from artists, but I just don't think it's a very good car.

[A]

I also don't think people are going to, they're not going to bump Kanye post Nazi. Well, anything that he makes, I think.

[C]

His music making days, I'm gonna check for it. Okay, but when was the last good, good album he put out? 10 years ago?

[B]

No, there's some, there's some blaps on. On Donda and Donda too.

[A]

Blabs.

[C]

Yeah, I guess I didn't listen to those closely enough.

[B]

His, his Christian album.

[A]

Ultra Light Beam.

[B]

Yeah, that was, that was some years ago, but I'm talking about 10 years ago. That was Life of Pablo, his Christian album has some bangers on it, dog.

[C]

Do you remember?

[B]

We have everything we need.

[C]

What do you remember? Waiting on the Life of Pablo. It had like, 17 release dates.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And he's like, it's coming out on Friday, I promise.

[B]

But he's been doing that since Jesus.

[C]

I know, but, like, that was. That was the. It took. I don't remember. I remember I was. It was my freshman year of college.

[B]

The day he released Ye, he took a version. This is. This is why I feel like Kim Kardashian was so good for him. He took. There was a. You know how he went viral saying slavery was his choice?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The day he released Ye, they were on the way to Wyoming to go have that listening party in Wyoming. I don't know if you remember. That was a big thing. And Kim was listening to it on the way there, and he had a line in his opening, in the intro that said something about, you know, slavery was choice, basically. And she was like, you gotta take that out. And they had an argument about it. She's like, you got. You have to take it out. And if you go to Ye, and this is the intro track, there's a verse and there's a bar. He leaves out. That's the bar. And Kim made him take it out day of. So he's always pushing stuff back, taking things back. That's. To me, that's a part of his genius. I just hate that he doesn't take his medicine. I hate that he doesn't take.

[C]

He has a line about that.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I think. I think. I think he is mentally unwell, and he is doing backflips on his algorithm right now and just. Riding that wave, dog. Riding that wave. And it's sad because he is an amazing artist, but he did make graduation. Mm. He did.

[A]

Great album.

[B]

I know. I know. That's. I know that's a lot of. A lot of people can do that. But I go back to. It was an era of music that helped me in the time that I was in. That's how I look at it. And it brings back those good feelings. I don't think a swastikas when I listen to Diamonds Are Forever.

[A]

Because it's that good.

[B]

It's that good.

[A]

If it was shitty music, then you might.

[B]

Yeah. No, I mean, if. Look, listen. Throwing an OJ highlight. Here's what it is, right? You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Check the box.

[B]

Charles Manson made a great fucking song. He. Look at your game, girl. Go Google that shit. It is what it is like. He was a horrible piece of shit human being. Made a good song.

[A]

All right, well, that was a good episode of Macrodosing.

[B]

Yeah, man.

[A]

Thank you for being in studio. Good luck to your son as he continues his quest to dominate, what, eighth graders?

[B]

No, I need his ass beat a little bit.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just a little bit.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Just not. Not enough to discourage them, but enough to be like, no, I'm. I'm gonna get these motherfuckers.

[C]

The team win there.

[B]

I think right now they're three and one.

[C]

So do we still have a chance at the Bulls?

[B]

We do. We do have a.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, love that.

[C]

I mean, obviously, we're going to that if that happens, right?

[E]

Obviously.

[A]

For sure.

[E]

When is that?

[B]

It should be Friday. Thursday, Friday. One of those.

[E]

Oh, it'd be this week.

[B]

Yes, this week.

[A]

Oh, all right, well, we will. We will see you guys next week on Macrodosing. Love you guys.