Kash Patel Celebrates The US Men’s Hockey Gold Medal | Feb 24, 2026

Summary

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Macrodosing Episode Summary

Episode Title: Kash Patel Celebrates the US Men’s Hockey Gold Medal
Podcast: Macrodosing (Barstool Sports)
Date: February 24, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of Macrodosing centers on the US Men's Hockey team's gold medal victory, exploring themes of American sports patriotism, international competition, the universality of rule changes in sports, internet culture, and plenty of tangents reflecting the show's trademark blend of banter, debate, and irreverence. The cast also dives into the viral presence of FBI Director Kash Patel celebrating with the hockey team, current events like cartel violence in Mexico, snowstorms in NYC, and oddities from internet discourse.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. The US Men’s Hockey Gold Medal Victory

• Patriotic Sports Fandom:
  • The group discusses how the hockey win sparks a unique kind of patriotism, as the sport occupies a “sweet spot”—America’s men’s team is good enough to win, but not always expected to:
    • “It's a good excuse for us to just let it fly. No regrets, full throttle. The world, we're United States.” —Big T, [06:13]
  • Comparison to other sports: Men’s soccer (never favorites), women’s soccer (expected to win), basketball (if the men don’t win, it’s a disaster).
• International Rivalries & Rule Changes:
  • Olympics 3-on-3 overtime format drew criticism from Canadians, who prefer traditional 5-on-5. The crew muses on how international rule tweaks affect both hockey and basketball.

2. American “Underdog” Identity & Rival Countries

• Desire for Underdog Narrative:
  • Discussion of how being an underdog—even as Americans—fuels more genuine excitement.
• Men's Soccer Aspirations:
  • Fantasizing about the US Men making a knockout run at the upcoming World Cup (USA is a host nation), and how that would rile up soccer-powerhouse countries:
    • “If the US men’s National Team makes it to the World Cup finals, you will become… you might as well, you’ll probably have to be MAGA at that point.” —Big T, [12:33]

3. Sports Parallels, Rule Evolution & Nostalgia

• Basketball Euro-influence:
  • Aryan and Titus discuss how NBA rule changes have made the game more accommodating to international (Euro) styles, debating whether international players have truly “caught up.”
    • “We have made the rules in the NBA such to acquiesce to that style of play.” —Aryan, [07:48]
  • Comparison to hockey, where international games play differently than NHL standards.
• Sports Nostalgia:
  • Discussion of the “aura” around pre-internet era stars (Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky) and how myth-making works differently today.
• Rule Exploits & Basketball Moves:
  • The cast highlights evolving basketball tactics like the jump stop, gather step, and “legal” carrying, and how each generation adapts to and then complains about changes.

4. Internet & Cultural Sidebars

• Changing Social Media Feeds:
  • Aryan laments Instagram showing unwanted content; others bemoan how post-internet culture alters community and personal experience.
• Micro-controversy: Appearance and Mockery
  • Running joke about Big T’s shirt resembling Lucy from Peanuts is repeatedly referenced in banter [14:33, 15:31].

5. Canadian-American Rivalry & Hypotheticals

• Expanding the US/Redrawing Borders:
  • Hypothetical discussion on what if the US “absorbed” parts of Canada. Jokes about making Alaska contiguous, axing random states (“If we get Greenland, see you later, Oklahoma.” —Big T, [34:43]), and combining the Dakotas into “Mega Dakota.”
• Memorable Moment: Fargo McDonald’s Quest
  • Unplanned tangent: a deep dive into locating a particularly kind McDonald’s employee in Fargo, North Dakota. This results in real-time mapping, analysis of employee characteristics, and suggestions for McDonald’s "Hamburger University" (HBU) recruitment.

6. Kash Patel & Hockey Team Locker Room Viral Moment

• Kash Patel's Locker Room Appearance:
  • The ongoing internet reaction to FBI Director Kash Patel celebrating with (and drinking with) the US hockey team—some see it as uncool or inappropriate.
    • “He’s cosplaying like he’s Dave Portnoy...except for the whole job.” —Big T, [50:10]
  • Theories swirl about his relationship dynamics; panel takes a playful, conspiratorial approach.

7. Current Events & News

• Mexico Cartel Violence in Puerto Vallarta:
  • Coverage of recent violence after a cartel leader’s death, impacts on travel/tourism; the group reads a platinim hotel status complaint for comic effect [56:44].
• War with Iran “on hold”:
  • Quick aside on how the US would never start a war during the Olympics, unlike Russia [66:32].
• Science Conspiracy Theories:
  • Two physicists (MIT & Caltech) murdered months apart, sparking online conspiracy theories about "dangerous knowledge." Aryan shares a science communicator's debunking thread [83:51–84:57].

8. Internet Virality, Animal Sadness, and Discourse Fatigue

• “Punch the Monkey” & Viral Animal Stories:
  • The crew discusses a viral, bullied monkey in Japan—a story that spirals into broader reflections and connects to previous animal social media phenomena (“Mu Dang,” “Fiona the hippo”).
• Alyssa Liu & Women in Sports Discourse:
  • Discussion on the sexualization of female athletes (notably figure skater Alyssa Liu), the awful "goonbait" meme, and the toxicity of internet commentary.

9. Listener Voicemails

• Takes on Aryan’s “passing yards” theory: Should QBs get credit for yards after catch? Aryan’s stance: the QB’s job ends once the ball’s in the receiver’s hands; YAC is on the receiver.
• Playful pushback on the hosts’ draft-avoidance and presumed cowardice (“No shape or form would I ever volunteer for any war...”). [96:20–97:11]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the US winning gold in hockey:
  • “And Canada is very, very upset this morning. And it’s like, what else do they have that we can take from them?” —Big T, [11:05]
• On US pride if the men’s soccer team overachieved:
  • “If the U.S. Men's National Team makes it to the World Cup finals, you will become... you’ll probably have to be MAGA at that point.” —Big T, [12:33]
• Rule changes and sports evolution:
  • “We have made the rules in the NBA such to acquiesce to that style of play.” —Aryan, [07:48]
• On the Lynchpin of Sports Nostalgia:
  • “There’s just an aura around guys from before the Internet existed.” —Titus, [19:05]
• On social media algorithms:
  • “It’s like the algorithm shaping people’s beliefs and how they choose to interact with things for monetization.” —Big T, [71:37]
• On being accused of being unpatriotic:
  • “If I got drafted, I would sit my ass in that jail cell. You call me a coward. That’s fine. I’m not fighting America’s war for any kind of global dominance. No, sir.” —Aryan, [96:20]

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Highlighted Timestamps

• 03:39 — US hockey as a uniquely patriotic sport
• 06:12 — Discussion of rule change impact on basketball/hockey
• 11:05 — Canada loses hockey, US relish
• 12:33 — US Men’s World Cup hypothetical & nationalism
• 19:05 — Pre-internet sports legends’ “mystique”
• 34:43 — “If we get Greenland, see you later Oklahoma.”
• 41:13 — Fargo McDonald’s hunt & employee tribute
• 46:38 — Kash Patel locker room, viral moment explored
• 56:44 — Puerto Vallarta violence & Platinum Elite hotel complaint
• 60:13 — Discourse on hotel checkout etiquette
• 71:02 — “Punch the Monkey” discussion & internet animal stories
• 74:24 — Alyssa Liu, figure skating, and goonbaiting phenomenon
• 83:51 — Academic conspiracy theories & debunking
• 96:20 — Argument over draft, patriotism, and college/frats

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Tone, Language, and Format

• Language is informal, playful, occasionally irreverent—banter is rapid-fire, with inside jokes, running bits (“Lucy shirt”), and the classic Macrodosing mashup of sports, internet, and culture war themes.
• Tone veers between light-hearted, satirical, and moments of sincere engagement/critique, especially when addressing topics like the sexualization of athletes or violence in Mexico.
• Wide-ranging and digressive; timestamps noted mark points where subject focus shifts substantially.

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Conclusion

This episode celebrates a pivotal American sports win and explores why certain victories resonate more, especially in the face of long-standing national rivalries. Meanwhile, the cast applies their idiosyncratic lens to everything from social media’s impact on culture, to the quirks of midwestern McDonald’s, hotel checkout drama, quirky internet obsessions, and the fraught blend of pride, absurdity, and critique that makes Macrodosing distinctive.

Listeners get both the thrill of victory and the chaos of American cultural commentary—the signature “tickle your brain” ethos in full effect.

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Transcript

[Big T]

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[Rianne Fran]

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[Aryan]

Oh, yeah, huh?

[Rianne Fran]

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[Big T]

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[Titus]

Right.

[Big T]

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[Aryan]

I can't not say anything. Okay. Have you seen Remember Charlie Brown? You remember Lucy?

[Big T]

Of course.

[Aryan]

I want you to Google Lucy and look at her and tell me if you see anything in particular. Okay.

[Big T]

What are you saying I look like Lucy?

[Titus]

The shirt. And he came in here, he came in here saying that people were going to say stuff about his shirt.

[Big T]

I'm wearing a button up shirt. Every time I wear something nice, people always got to drag you down. You try. You try to get a fit off at the office and. And your best friends are like, you look like a cartoon female dude. Not only that, but a car, a woman from a cartoon that stinks at sports. Welcome back to Macro Dosing. It is Tuesday. It's February 24th, and today's episode is brought to you by our great friends over at Part of My Cheesesteak. If you're watching the game, if you're working late, if you're just too lazy to cook on a given night, guess what? You got a call you can make. It's part of my cheesesteak. It's great this time of year. March Madness. We got golf on every weekend. College basketball heating up. College basketball. Big Monday tonight. I know I'm going to be eating some part of my cheesesteak. It's available nationwide. It delivers easy game days. Got you covered. Go to Part of My Cheesesteak right Now use code awl, you get free delivery on part of my cheesesteak dot com. Check it out. Part of my cheesesteak dot com promo code awl. And you get free delivery. Order in store online or right through the Penn Station app as well. Because at Penn Station they've got the heavy hitter, the mega cheesesteak. It's loaded. It's not perfectly toasted hoagie roll. You got this thin sliced steak, the melted provolone mouth watering cheese sauce. You got the pepperoni chopped in there on Penn Station with mega cheesesteak. Check it out. Go to partmycheesesteak.com use promo code AWL, you get free delivery. All right, we are back. It is February 24th. It is macro dosing and the United States is the best country in the

[Titus]

world at every sport usa.

[Big T]

What do you think, Aaron? I know you're patriotic sports fan.

[Aryan]

You know how you down.

[Big T]

Did you watch any of the hockey?

[Aryan]

I did not watch any hockey, but I heard that the USA won.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Is that not like a. Were we ever competitive or.

[Big T]

No, no, we won in 1980. That was the last gold medal.

[Aryan]

That was been a minute.

[Titus]

We're always competitive, but haven't won gold medals since then.

[Aryan]

I don't know if I'd call that competitive. Ale since the 80s.

[Titus]

Well, we lost the gold medal game to Canada in 10, in 14 we lost to them in the semifinals. And then the last two, they haven't had NHL players. I don't even remember what we did.

[Big T]

Yeah. So we have been competitive, just not like championship level, I guess. If you were, if you were to assign an NFL team to United States hockey, what would be the best comparison for that? Would it be like. But the Bills, they haven't won like we have won.

[Titus]

So we won a long time ago. Long have remained competitive.

[Big T]

The Cowboys, but they've.

[Titus]

No, they have. They're the. They haven't made an nfc. Are they the last NFC team that hasn't made a championship game like every other team has made it since then?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Big T]

I think it would have to be like the Cowboys, the Dolphins, but again,

[Titus]

they stink all the time.

[Big T]

They do stink. The 49ers.

[Aryan]

49ers might be hockey.

[Titus]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big T]

The 49ers. When's the last time the 49ers won a Super Bowl? That was probably 90s, wasn't it?

[Aryan]

Yeah. 98, 98, 90, 90. It was mid-90s.

[Big T]

90s. It gets the Chargers. Yeah. Yeah.

[Aryan]

Dion was there, right?

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

But even still, that Feels like that's. It's way more. There's really no NFL comparison to it,

[Titus]

but that they've been to a lot of Super Bowls and NFC Championship games since then. They have and haven't won it.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Titus, I think, made a really good point this morning, which was that the US Hockey team is our most patriotic sport. We have because we are good enough.

[Rianne Fran]

Win.

[Titus]

But we haven't won in a long time.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Whereas soccer, men's soccer, we're not good enough to win. Women's soccer, we win every time. Men's basketball, we. If we don't win, it's a disaster. Kind of like Canada. It's hockey.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

So we don't. This is the only sport we really have where we can win, but we're

[Big T]

not expected to win.

[Titus]

Right.

[Big T]

Yeah. It's a good sweet spot to be in because it really lets. It really lets the patriotism flow unchecked. It's a good excuse for us to just let it fly. No regrets, Full throttle. The world. We're United States. Like, if we did that for basketball, kind of a. Kind of a weird move, right, Dick? We got Steph Curry. Like, yeah, we know you have Steph Curry.

[Titus]

And I was thinking yesterday, and I really like the way Titus put it, because I was thinking, like, the Steph Curry shot against France was incredible. That was awesome. But it didn't feel nearly the same.

[Big T]

No.

[Titus]

As Jack Hughes scoring.

[Big T]

No, it didn't. And that. That was great for a different reason. I love watching the US Men's basketball team because I get to root for all these guys that I usually either have fatigue from winning so much. I'm like, these guys just bounce around. I get to actually, like, I'm. I'm a Steph Curry fan. Steph Curry represents me. I see myself and Steph Curry right out of the court, which is an amazing experience. Like, shout out to Golden State warriors fans. That must. That must have been awesome for the last, like, 10 years to be like, yeah, Steph Curry is my favorite athlete, and he plays for my team. That's. That's a great thing that you get to experience. Getting to tap in on that in. In the Olympics is a treat, though.

[Titus]

The rest of the world is catching up in basketball to the point that it could become like this.

[Big T]

Yeah. It does argue that they are not.

[Aryan]

I would argue that they are not. I would argue that the rules have been changed to acquiesce to international players. That's what I would argue.

[Big T]

I would disagree with that. But let's embrace debate I don't think that's untrue.

[Aryan]

So I think what separated the Euroleague from the NBA was hand checking, stuff like that, playing tough defense, hard defense, shit like that. I think to appeal to international, the international game. I think it was David Stern at the time he started doing international outreach. So back then what were the international players were like Tony Ku, coach, stuff like that, perimeter players, very finesse. Finesse, right. We have made the rules in the NBA such to acquiesce to that style of play. So that, that super traveling that they're doing now that everybody says the gather all of that kind of shit, that's what Euro players have been used to the entirety over there lately. The NBA has now adopted those rules. So I think you're seeing more Euro players excel.

[Titus]

I think that is true. But there's also just hasn't been the level of talent that there is now. I mean there was never Jokic, when Benyama, sga, all those guys at once. Now granted, all those guys are from different countries. So like America versus the world right now would be a. The world would probably win.

[Big T]

I think the world would fuck around, likely win.

[Titus]

But you need one country that has all those guys. France has been close.

[Big T]

I'll tell you what, we've talked about it before, but if Yugoslavia didn't break up at the end of the Cold war, Yugoslavia might be the best basketball country in the world.

[Titus]

So would they have Yic and Luca right now?

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah, they're. They would have Jokic, they would have Luca, they would have Bogdanovich. Both Bogdanovich. Would they have Shingun? No, Shingoon is Turkey, right?

[Titus]

I'm not sure.

[Big T]

I think he's. I think for all the Shingooners out there, I believe he's Turkish.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

You'd have Jokic, you have Luka Jovic. Topic Vucevich Nurkic, Luka Garza, if you're into that sort of thing. Bogdanovich, Zubot Vucevich and Javante Green. That's a pretty good team. Pretty good team. But yeah, I mean they have, they've changed some of the rules and I think you could say a similar thing about hockey. Like international hockey is a little bit different from NHL hockey and how the ice is set up, what they allow, what they don't allow. I wish they allowed fighting. That's what was so cool about the four nations. Yeah, it was like you could, you could go out there and just beat another dude's face and be fine.

[Titus]

Did I hear that you would get a game misconduct for Fighting.

[Big T]

Yeah. You get kicked out, and I think you'd have to miss the next game, too.

[Titus]

That's insane.

[Big T]

Yeah. Which is like, you saw some French guy go after. He went after Tom Wilson in, like, the quarterfinals, and Tom Wilson just had to kind of sit there and take it, because if I. If I punch this guy, I'm in big trouble.

[Titus]

They were hitting yesterday, too.

[Big T]

They were. It was. It was a lot of fun, and it was. It was good to be able to just root on your country as somewhat of an underdog, which we were technically an underdog. It was not the miracle. It was not like it was a bunch of amateurs against pros. We had a very. A very, very good team, but we were the underdogs going up against Canada, and. And Canada is very, very upset this morning. And it's like, what. What else do they have that we

[Aryan]

can take from them?

[Big T]

This is why I want to continue to steal from Canada.

[Titus]

This is why I've always yearned for a men's soccer team that is. Is at this level. Like, we're never going to be the best in the world, but if we could win a couple knockout games in a World cup, like, just ruin it for these other countries because it's all they have.

[Big T]

If you.

[Titus]

We have everything.

[Big T]

Listen, I know there's a lot of people out there that are not super into soccer and don't really care about the World cup, but it's going to be here in the United States. It's going to be in your face. You will, I think even casual sports fans, if you like sports, you will get into the World Cup. The excitement is that level that you'll. You'll find some stuff that you really enjoy about it. Now, if the United States, if somehow things break our way, I don't know if, you know, the. The governing body of soccer, FIFA, and the officials are open to any sort of bribery or rigging any of the games. I don't know if that would be up their alley, but let's just say, hypothetically, the United States wins so many games that we get to, like, the semifinals or the finals in the World Cup. I know it's a long shot, very long shot. Everyone in America is going to absolutely love it because we'll get to say you to countries like Brazil, like England, like Germany, countries that they dedicate their

[Titus]

entire lives to soccer, and it's literally the only sport. Like, they play basketball a little now. Germany plays hockey a little bit, but it's soccer. Is it?

[Big T]

And if you think the world doesn't hate us as ugly Americans already. Wait till we, if we get to a point where we're in the World cup finals, it will be such a great moment for America to just be like, fuck you. Double middle fingers to the world. Even if you like. I don't care if you're the most liberal person out there. If the U.S. men's National Team makes it to the World cup finals, you will become like, you might as well. You'll be maga. You'll probably have to be maga at that point.

[Titus]

My goal for this World cup is to win two knockout games. So that gets us to the quarterfinals and then come what may after that. But if we can win two knockout games, at least one of which against like a country, that this will destroy them.

[Big T]

Yeah. Who would be the best team to beat in the quarterfinals?

[Aryan]

I mean, who does Messi play for?

[Titus]

Argentina. We can't. We can't beat Argentina. We could like, I mean, the best team to beat would be.

[Big T]

Didn't. Didn't Saudi Arabia tie or beat Argentina? Yeah, I was in the, in the group play last year.

[Titus]

I mean, the obvious answer is England, but we've played them in the World cup before. We've tied. Yeah, a couple times.

[Big T]

Beating England would be pretty nice.

[Titus]

Beating France would be incredible.

[Big T]

We probably can't beat France.

[Titus]

Spain.

[Big T]

Spain probably can't beat them.

[Titus]

Well, that's the thing. We can't beat any of these teams.

[Big T]

Mexico, we'll probably just beat.

[Titus]

Beating Mexico would be incredible.

[Big T]

I don't know how that, that shakes out with the, the group stage and how you, how you advance.

[Titus]

Would you rather beat Mexico in Mexico or America? Beating them in Mexico would be unbelievable.

[Big T]

I think I would rather beat them in Mexico.

[Aryan]

I think so did Mexico change the Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America?

[Big T]

I think that's still under dispute.

[Aryan]

Fair enough.

[Big T]

I don't know who gets to actually change these things. Like whoever has the bigger Rand McNally.

[Titus]

They have an office like they do up the road.

[Big T]

They do by the airport.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

I can't not say anything.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Aryan]

Have you seen. You remember Charlie Brown?

[Big T]

Mm.

[Aryan]

You remember Lucy?

[Big T]

Of course.

[Aryan]

I want you to Google Lucy and look at her and tell me if you see anything in particular.

[Tom]

Okay.

[Big T]

What are you saying I look like Lucy?

[Titus]

The shirt. And he came in here, he came in here saying that people were going to say stuff about his shirt.

[Big T]

I'm wearing a button up shirt. Every time I wear something nice, people always got to drag you down. You try, you try to get a fit off at the office. And. And your best friends are like. You look like a cartoon female dude. Not only that, but a car, a woman from a cartoon that stinks at sports.

[Titus]

A kicker.

[Big T]

A kicker.

[Titus]

Or I guess a holder.

[Big T]

Holder.

[Titus]

Placeholder.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Specialty.

[Aryan]

Yeah. I mean, it was just glares.

[Big T]

Look at me.

[Aryan]

Dead in my face. The hair, the shirt. It was right there. I had to.

[Big T]

That's good. Well, Lucy's an iconic character from a beloved comic strip.

[Titus]

I didn't know she had a last name.

[Big T]

Oh, Van Pelt.

[Titus]

Yeah. Shout out. Svp.

[Big T]

Did not know.

[Aryan]

One of my good friends on Netflix. You're iconic too, brother.

[Big T]

Did not know that about Lucy. Just. Who else has a last name in that?

[Titus]

Linus Van Pelt. Rerun Van Pelt.

[Big T]

Wait, they're. They're all related?

[Titus]

Lucy and Linus are siblings. Right.

[Big T]

I didn't know that Rerun was also related.

[Titus]

This is the first time hearing of Rerun.

[Big T]

Yeah, there's some lore,

[Titus]

but, yeah, I mean, I guess Charlie Brown has a last name, so it makes sense that there would be other families in town.

[Big T]

Before I was assaulted for my. For my appearance today, I was just trying to enjoy a moment of being a proud American. It's sad that some people get offended by that to the point where they have to do ad hominem attacks, but such as life, I'm full of those.

[Aryan]

Yeah, I. I exist in that.

[Big T]

We did beat. We did beat Canada, and it was great. And Canada's very upset about it. And maybe you should have scored when you open shot the net. Nathan McKinnon, like, four times.

[Titus]

Score two, one in overtime. Yeah, we should have lost, like, four

[Aryan]

to one, four to two. Those are hockey overtime games. Them shits I love.

[Titus]

And the Canadians are very upset because The Olympics did 3 on 3 over time, which the NHL does in the regular season. But in the playoffs, they just let you go five on five till somebody scores, which has led to some games going three, four overtimes. But in the playoffs, you don't want to. Three on three randomizes the result a little bit. So they're upset about that. But too bad. So sad, I guess.

[Aryan]

Wait, it's not. When you say three on three, you're not talking about a penalty shot. You're talking about three people versus three people.

[Titus]

Correct.

[Big T]

And a goalie.

[Titus]

So there's. So there's way more ice. Like, it's way easier to score.

[Big T]

So.

[Aryan]

Wow, full court 3v3. Yeah, I'd never seen that one.

[Big T]

I've only.

[Aryan]

I've only seen the shootout.

[Titus]

So shootout happens after three on three.

[Aryan]

So maybe I did see it.

[Titus]

Did the game. We went to a Rangers game and it went to a shootout, right? Yeah. So they play.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

So they play three on three before that for five minutes, and then if they don't win in five minutes, they go to a shootout.

[Aryan]

Had no clue. The highlight. Well, not that that game was amazing, but the one thing I remember was during that game, you told me to YouTube a dude, and I was, fuck. I was like, who the fuck is this? He was the. He was the Mike Jordan of Connor

[Titus]

McDavid who plays for Canada.

[Aryan]

Oh, we be him.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

And about eight others that are not as good as him.

[Big T]

But he was the MVP of the whole tournament.

[Aryan]

Damn. Shout out to. Shout out to us, man. That's. That's fire.

[Titus]

He has now lost the last two Stanley cup finals and got the silver medal at the Olympics. He's kind of. But he's.

[Big T]

But he's the best player in the world, probably.

[Titus]

He's the second best player ever.

[Big T]

Maybe that's a. You sound a little bit like. I mean, right now.

[Titus]

Have you watched him?

[Big T]

I have. I've watched a lot of.

[Titus]

I was thinking about this recently because I was thinking about Connor McDavid, and I was thinking about LeBron and Michael Jordan. And I'm sure this point has been made before, but I think there's just an aura around guys from before the Internet existed.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Titus]

To where there was word of mouth. Like, you have to watch Michael Jordan, and he'd be on tv. Michael Jordan. The Bulls were, I assume, were on TV all the time. But, like, maybe Wayne Gretzky was only on your TV six times a year.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

And so you would be like, I have to sit down and watch Wayne Gretzky and I. Then he'd score two goals. You're like, this guy's the greatest to ever do it. And he is, to be clear. But I just think before the Internet, before you could see everything, there was more of a mystique around guys that has lasted well into the 21st century.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Where we're still, like, those guys are the best to ever do it. Even though, like, LeBron's undoubtedly a better basketball player than Michael Jordan. So there's really no.

[Big T]

Well, there. There is some truth to that. Big T. I think, because back before. Before the Internet was so big, you had to make it an active choice. You had to opt in to, like, seeking out Michael Jordan to watch him on tv. And therefore, because you made that choice with your time, if he has a great game, you. You build it up even bigger in your own head because it's almost a little bit like, congrats to myself for making this choice to watch Michael Jordan.

[Titus]

I saw great.

[Big T]

He's so good. I saw greatness. It's like if you spend a lot of money on. On a meal, you're more likely to think like, that was a great meal, as opposed to, if you spend, you know, if it's a cheap meal, you might really enjoy it. But if you spend a lot of money on, you're like, that was one of the best meals of my life.

[Titus]

Yes.

[Big T]

You know, so I think that there's a little bit of that that goes along with it. But also, Michael Jordan is really good, for sure. And Wayne Gretzky. Wayne Gretzky I think might be an exception because.

[Titus]

No, he is.

[Big T]

The numbers that he had now, goalies didn't really play back then. They were pretty much all drunk and dizzy and didn't have pads or eyesight. But that's not to take away from the fact that his stats are just like outrageous, outrageous stats that Wayne Basket has.

[Aryan]

I think that's the difference. I think there is a certain amount of prestige when you look back at players and that can happen because, yeah, it was like, dog. Did you see Sean Kemp's dunk? Right.

[Big T]

Yeah, we don't.

[Aryan]

We don't really regard Sean Kemp as one of the greatest players of all time, but he was one of the best dunkers of our generation. Right. Didn't get to see him that much. But when you look at Michael Jordan, there's been four players in the season that have ever done this one. Defensive mvp, scoring title, league mvp, finals mvp. Only four players have done that in one season and it was all Michael Jordan. He did it four times.

[Titus]

He's one of the greatest players to ever play.

[Aryan]

I'm not disputing so relative greatness when you say Jordan is obviously a better basketball player. I don't.

[Titus]

Lebron.

[Aryan]

Like I said, I understand the arguments and I don't like to go back and forth people. It's opinion based at this point. But to say Michael Jordan just has or. Because.

[Titus]

No, it's not just that, but I do think that exists.

[Aryan]

He was like that for sure. It was like that. Yeah, it was.

[Titus]

I would also be remiss though, to not point out that defensive statistics from the 90s in the NBA are completely fake and they juice them for every

[Big T]

home team and offense, rebounds and things like that.

[Aryan]

Now I think I saw a stat of Jordan, like if he, if he. If you take away all his home defensive statistics. He still would have had, like, something around. Like, he still would have led the league in steals or something like that. And led the league in like, I forget, I forget the exact stat. I don't want to misquote it. But now he was dog.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Aryan]

I mean, just imagine who's the best scorer in the league today. Probably like, what, Luca, maybe right now.

[Titus]

Sga.

[Big T]

Yeah, okay.

[Aryan]

Sga. Imagine SGA scoring like he is, but also locked down on defense.

[Titus]

Please understand. Michael Jordan I fully respect. I'm just saying, like, the two or three greatest people ever pick up a basketball.

[Aryan]

I just don't think we can comprehend that kind of like, dominance on a court like that. It just don't exist because usually you specialize in things. Luke is a great scorer. Not that good on defense. SG is a great scorer. All right. On defense.

[Tom]

Right.

[Aryan]

James Harden, amazing scorer. He's okay on defense. Imagine Kawhi Leonard on defense. But he's also putting up 36 a game. That shit just don't for sure crazy.

[Titus]

I just think there's something to be said for pre Internet guys and that kind of.

[Aryan]

That's. We're so unique in that pft. That generation where it's like, we can remember what it was like before so we can appreciate what it was like before, but we also know what it's like now, so we can appreciate it now. Very unique. Millennials have this very unique, like, position in time.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Which I appreciate.

[Big T]

I'm glad we got to. To see the world before the Internet. It does make you appreciate shit on the Internet a lot more too.

[Aryan]

And it makes you not appreciate shit on the Internet.

[Big T]

Yeah. It makes you be like, oh, this is bad for society. Oh, this is really good.

[Aryan]

Yeah. So like, I'm stuck in that. So I, I, I, I, I post dog. Somebody help me out with this, by the way, because since I don't got Twitter no more, I, I'd be on Instagram probably a little bit more. But I fucking hate that place, honestly.

[Tom]

Like it.

[Aryan]

And my feed is filled with a whole bunch of people I don't fucking follow. I don't understand this shit.

[Rianne Fran]

It's miserable.

[Aryan]

I want people to. For them to show up on my feed and it's a bunch of that.

[Titus]

You think?

[Aryan]

I'm a, like, I'm like, dog, it's a miserable experience. Ah, what the is this? I hate it. I'm like, where are the people that I chose to chose to follow? Like, I didn't sign up for none of these anywho. I put up a post on. On the Internet talking about some. Some dude was saying he's an artist, and he was like, AI music is like dog shit. He's like, just stop. He's like, this is for humans. And then I got into a couple, like, conversations with some of my people, and one of the dudes is my age, and he was like, it's just like saying, sampling, you know, that whole argument and stuff. But it was, It's. This is a very interesting, interesting time, man. I, I'm. I'm gonna die on that hill walk. AI music, that's for us, though. We don't have to rehash that. I was just saying my Instagram experience.

[Big T]

No, that's. I think that's totally fair. I do think that if you look at, like, what Wayne Gretzky used to do in hockey, I think it'd be comparable to say, like, if. If when Michael Jordan played, they didn't allow anybody over 7ft tall, would that be fair to say about, like, the difference between goaltending then to goaltending now?

[Titus]

Yeah. I mean, in hockey, kind of this, but kind of the same thing goes for Jordan. Like, there were great players in the 90s, but if you compare the NBA today to then, like, it's not even close. Yeah.

[Big T]

And if LeBron James grew up in, like, the mid-70s, would he have been LeBron James how he is now? No, absolutely not. Like, the game had to evolve. He had to. He had to see other people. He had to steal some.

[Aryan]

I like that point. I like that.

[Big T]

Like, I, I, I think that one guy, you could say, like, Kyrie, if

[Aryan]

he was, if he was training in high school with Converse on, right? Like, you know, this is. Does his calf muscles have the same amount of definition?

[Big T]

Well, to even know what's possible to do 100%, you know, like, I actually, I think Kyrie might be an exception to that, where I think Kyrie is just like, his brain works so fast

[Aryan]

that I was talking to Clyde Drexler about that exact point, because I asked him, who do you think the best ball handlers of all time are? And I was like, kyrie's the best ball handler of all time to me. And he was like, nah, I don't think so. I was like, how the. Can you even say that? Like, who's yours? And he told me, Isaiah Thomas. And I was like, look, dog, look. I think Isaiah Thomas is amazing. But, like, Kyrie was at Thomas balling, and he was like, listen. He was like, guys could do that shit. But they would call Karrion on the majority of these. And I was like, that's a point. I never really thought of that. They actually changed the rules. They had. I think it was. Allen Iverson was. When he started doing the crossover, like, seriously. Because if you notice, like, guys used to be keep. You have to. Used to have to keep your hand on top of the ball. Now there's really no such thing as a carry unless it's egregious. And so he was saying. He was like. He was like, yeah, what they can do now is amazing. He's like. But we couldn't even practice that because they would call it. He's like. So when I look at the best ball handling, I look at the confines of, like, what was available to the Cats at the time, and he was just a different. I was like, that makes sense. I understand why you got there. Still think it's Kyrie, but I understand how you got there.

[Big T]

That is very true. I remember watching because we were Georgetown basketball fans in my house growing up, because, you know, we were in the D.C. area, and my dad was a basketball player back in the day, played at, like, George Washington in college. And we were seeing. We were watching Iverson because he was, like, the craziest, best player in the country.

[Aryan]

That coach. Who's that coach?

[Big T]

John Thompson.

[Aryan]

John Thompson.

[Big T]

Big John Thompson.

[Aryan]

Yeah, legend. Yeah, legend.

[Big T]

And. And so we. We loved Allen Iverson. We loved watching him. But my dad couldn't help himself. And every time Iverson would bring the ball up the court, my dad would just go, carry, carry, carry, carry, carry on every single dribble that he had. Because it's true, like, just putting your hand on the side of the ball, they used to call that. That used to be, like, something you couldn't do. So when you see somebody that's able to. To maneuver like. Like Pistol Pete, for example, way back in the day, like, he's doing all that shit just by dribbling on top of the ball, which is a aesthetically less pleasing way to watch basketball. It's better that you can put your hand on the side and do more things with it. It makes for a more interesting game. But, yeah, the way it's officiated is a lot different. I. I still think, though, that if Kyrie, if he played back then and he was only allowed to dribble the ball, like, straight up and, like, hand on top of the ball, I'm sure he would still be incredible, though.

[Aryan]

His creativity was. Is. Is just amazing. But that's how I Like to liken it. So like we looking at the gather step shit nowadays. Like our parents looked at carrying in our day and I and I and they, they had a point then with the bigger one. You remember, remember the animal mixtapes?

[Big T]

Yeah, of course.

[Aryan]

That like, that was huge in our big thing. You remember that? I don't know if you.

[Titus]

No, I, I remember. I. I wasn't like prime. I was young. But yeah, so.

[Aryan]

But I mean that's how we, we took that and that's how we. We started balling like that. We put the ball in between his shirt, slapped the balls going around and in the playground it's like, bro, Carrie, out of here with that.

[Titus]

Like.

[Aryan]

But that's how we, we grew up. That was our. It was, it was like what is like a.

[Big T]

What.

[Aryan]

What's equivalent to that now? Like a trend where it's like. I don't know if they're.

[Titus]

Well, have you seen this new thing? This has just been in the last month. I've noticed this and it's become a thing online. These guys will come to a full stop with the ball two feet on the ground. You can pivot, but then they'll take one more like running step and shoot. And that. I don't understand how it's not.

[Aryan]

It's textbook and it's legal.

[Big T]

Jumps.

[Aryan]

Look at the rule. I hate it.

[Titus]

But it's not even a jump stop. It's like they've been pivoting for two seconds, they're at a full stop, and then they'll take one step and move their.

[Big T]

I want to look at what you're talking about.

[Titus]

I'm trying to remember who. The thing on Instagram was that it was going really fast.

[Big T]

Because if you.

[Aryan]

A bunch of those, if you do

[Big T]

a jump stop correctly, it looks like a travel.

[Titus]

It's not a jump stop.

[Big T]

100% of the time.

[Titus]

It's not a jump stop. Yeah, there.

[Aryan]

There's a. There's a bunch of dudes that do that just to go viral. They'll look at the rules and they'll interpret the rules in a certain way and then they'll just do it and it looks ridiculous and then it'll be a conversation.

[Titus]

But I've seen guys do it in games now. A guy from Vandy did it the other day.

[Aryan]

I mean, G. Giannis is. Is a habit. Habitual.

[Big T]

Oh yeah.

[Aryan]

Line stepper when it comes to that. But again, so I mean, I understand, you know, the OGs in our era were like, yo, get out of here with this. I get It.

[Big T]

I think the pivot foot can come off the ground. It just can't land again. Right.

[Titus]

So he's at a full stop. He. I. That's a travel. I don't.

[Big T]

The pivot foot can come off the ground. I might be. I might be way off on this, but I, I've always thought the pivot foot could come off the ground as long as it didn't last again or land again.

[Titus]

Well, so you can bring both feet off the ground to shoot.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

But I, I was under the impression you couldn't take one more step from that point.

[Big T]

I don't know. Being a ref actually seems like it's very tough.

[Aryan]

Like, it's like, it's like if you're in a. Yeah. From your pivot foot, you could still have that stepping and jump off of one foot.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

That's the thing I've been noticing going around recently.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Big T]

So congratulations to the United States.

[Titus]

Yeah. We just unironically did 15 minutes on Jordan on basketball.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

But it's pretty cool beat in Canada. Sorry. You got the second place stuffed animal. Nathan McKinnon.

[Aryan]

I wonder how those super, you know, those super, like, MAGA Canadians who are, like, all, like, love the usa.

[Big T]

Yeah. They're kind of in a blender. I wonder.

[Aryan]

I wonder how they're feeling right now.

[Big T]

I think they're just, like, looking at. They're like, I can't wait for Alberta to secede. I think they've pivoted to that vote

[Titus]

on that this year.

[Big T]

I know. I don't know what they're up to because there. There are a bunch of Canadians out there that are MAGA sympathetic, but then they've kind of had to walk away from that a little bit with the whole tariff war and, like, 51st state stuff. Canada is not going to be a state in the United States. It's not. Trump likes to say that as part of some negotiation and just to, like, throw them off balance. The problem, though, is now you do have some people in Canada that want to be the 51st state.

[Titus]

No, thank you.

[Big T]

Like, yeah, through all the bluster that Trump had, he. Trump might have just, like, started to talk us into a situation that we don't actually want. Like, do we really want to run Canada?

[Titus]

No, I just want to keep beating them in hockey.

[Big T]

Yeah. I think there's a lot of people out there that want to say, we're going to make you our 51st state, but then not actually have to do anything that goes along with having them as. As a state. Right.

[Titus]

Yeah. I mean, does anyone want that?

[Big T]

No, I don't think so. I don't even think Trump wants. I think he just wants to say it.

[Titus]

Yeah. I agree.

[Big T]

By the way, the.

[Aryan]

The map. So non symmetrical.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Yep.

[Titus]

We got a good shape sticking up thing now. We do. I mean, we do already kind of have two that are. We just kind of ignore in that regard.

[Aryan]

Yeah, that's also true.

[Big T]

But it would. It would really join up Alaska nicely.

[Aryan]

Alaska is kind of wild that we just have to hop over a whole nother country to get to. That's kind of what.

[Big T]

But I mean it's. Yeah. Be almost worth it just to get. It would really set Alaska off.

[Titus]

You think they'd be mad.

[Big T]

I know. I think Alaska. It would look great on a map.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Like Alaska would. Would shoot way up the power rankings.

[Titus]

But then Hawaii would be really pissed.

[Big T]

Yeah. I think Hawaii at that point would be like, you okay, you have 50. Can we leave?

[Aryan]

I think so.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Like one. It's a one in, one out policy right now.

[Titus]

True.

[Big T]

That's what it should be for the United States. Like 50 is a good number.

[Aryan]

So if we take. If we take what this would be.

[Big T]

If we take Greenland, it's like, I

[Aryan]

don't know the provinces, but there's two provinces on the. On the west coast.

[Titus]

That's Alberta and British Columbia.

[Big T]

British Columbia, Yukon Territory and just.

[Aryan]

And just have a little pathway to Alaska. That would make a little bit of sense.

[Big T]

So we steal their whole west coast. I don't think that Vancouver will go along with that.

[Aryan]

Saskatchewan, British Columbia is Squamish.

[Titus]

Just in my mind as I'm visualizing this, would that not make America look like a toilet if we. If we only took the far left?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Can't have that.

[Big T]

We can't look like a toilet.

[Aryan]

I mean, it could look like a little pipe.

[Titus]

Okay.

[Aryan]

I'm trying to envision it.

[Big T]

I think if. If we get Greenland. See you later. Oklahoma.

[Titus]

Wow, that's your first one to go.

[Big T]

I think so, yeah.

[Titus]

I mean, I'm not staunchly pro or anti that. Just that wouldn't be my first choice.

[Big T]

Will be your first choice. I mean, you got to make a hard decision.

[Titus]

It's not far from Oklahoma geographically.

[Big T]

Would you go with Kansas?

[Titus]

No. Perfectly fine people in Kansas.

[Big T]

Nebraska.

[Titus]

You're going the wrong way.

[Big T]

Texas, Mississippi.

[Titus]

You're getting close.

[Big T]

Alabama, Louisiana.

[Titus]

You're. You're all over it.

[Big T]

Arkansas. Yes, Arkansas. You get rid of Arkansas.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

Oh, Bobby Bones will hate that.

[Titus]

That's true. I shouldn't have said that. Sorry, Bob.

[Rianne Fran]

Just combine the Dakotas, and then that's probably.

[Big T]

Yep, that's the correct answer. Look at you.

[Aryan]

Problem solving.

[Big T]

Mega Dakota.

[Rianne Fran]

Make it to.

[Aryan]

Yeah, make it. Make it. Dakota.

[Titus]

They start a war over that.

[Big T]

They probably would.

[Rianne Fran]

I don't think they like each other,

[Big T]

but that's really all you got going for you if you're. You got. You got FCS college football, which you're

[Titus]

incredible at FBS now for North Dakota State.

[Big T]

Fbs. It's true. You got. You got decent college football, and then you have. Hating the other Dakota. Those are the main reasons why you get up in the morning, and we can't take that away from them.

[Aryan]

Be a fun series to start. Just walk the streets of both the Dakotas and say, give it to me. Why is yours the best?

[Big T]

Yeah. Have a Dakota off.

[Aryan]

Dakota off.

[Titus]

I've said this before, but. Nicest McDonald's employee I've ever met in my life. Fargo, North Dakota.

[Big T]

Wow. Go on.

[Titus]

Like, just so. I hope that guy owns the store now. He was incredible.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Just so nice. So over the top. Like, great. I don't remember his name, but what'd he do? I mean, this is years ago now. He was just awesome. He was, like a waiter, kind of. Yeah, he, like, checked on us.

[Big T]

He was the Egg McMuffin, which is fantastic.

[Titus]

He was just so nice. So great. You don't get that at McDonald's all the time, you know?

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Can I get you started with something to drink?

[Titus]

You know what you can actually, like.

[Big T]

You walk into the restaurant, he greets you in line, get your drink going before you even get up to the counter.

[Titus]

I wonder if. If we could find that McD and, like, be like, hey, there was a guy there five years ago that was just. Man, what, seven years ago now? I guess.

[Big T]

Would you be able to pick him out in a lineup?

[Titus]

No. No chance. I just remember that he was so nice.

[Big T]

We got to find this guy. If it's somebody that works.

[Titus]

I mean, how many McDonald's are there in Fargo?

[Big T]

Probably a few. But if. If there's somebody that is so good at their job, working at McDonald's. McDonald's needs to know about that.

[Aryan]

Okay.

[Titus]

We can. Oh, I thought you'd looked it up. No, I.

[Aryan]

How the fuck would I know?

[Big T]

They need to know about that guy because that's a guy that needs to be in the McDonald's business.

[Titus]

I agree.

[Big T]

You can't have that guy leaving and going to Wendy's.

[Titus]

Let's see how many are around Fargo.

[Big T]

Like, if that guy became like the. The can you hear me now? Guy and went to your competitor. That's devastating for your industry.

[Titus]

Oh, there's 10. It's kind of a lot.

[Aryan]

Yeah, that was kind of a crazy little switch up. I forgot about that. Can you hear me now, guys? It was the Verizon dude, wasn't it?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

He went to Sprint, I believe.

[Titus]

Might have been, but now Sprint got bought by T Mobile, so.

[Big T]

So, big T, can you figure out where in Fargo you were I there?

[Titus]

No way.

[Big T]

What was the reason you were in Fargo?

[Titus]

It was Blackjack, Fletcher, Paul Laduca, and myself going on our trip through Canada

[Big T]

that made Rico hate you.

[Aryan]

Okay, well, this is unbeknownst to me.

[Titus]

I mean, this is many, many years ago.

[Aryan]

Many years ago.

[Titus]

This is before this show started. I went on a trip with two guys who used to work here that Rico hated. So Rico decided he hated me because I was associated with them through this work trip.

[Big T]

Did you file an expense report?

[Titus]

I think Blackjack did all of it, from what I recall, because I was

[Big T]

still on good terms with Blackjack.

[Titus]

I haven't talked to him in years, but, yeah, I think so.

[Big T]

Please reach out to him.

[Titus]

Okay.

[Big T]

I do want to find this guy.

[Titus]

I want to do. If you live in Fargo, North Dakota, and you remember around Thanksgiving of 2019, going to a McDonald's and being greeted by an incredibly nice employee, please reach out to the show because I would like to find this guy.

[Big T]

Did you guys.

[Aryan]

Or if you are the incredible.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Did you do any content from. From Fargo, North Dakota?

[Titus]

No, we were just passing through.

[Big T]

So the place videos? No. Live streams?

[Titus]

I don't think so. The places we. We stopped for the night. Where we went from Toronto to South Bend, Indiana. We spent the night in South Bend. Then we went from South Bend, Indiana, to. Was it Minneapolis?

[Big T]

Okay.

[Titus]

Then we went Minneapolis to, I believe, Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan. Then Moose Jaw to Calgary, which is where we were headed, I believe that was.

[Big T]

Okay, you went from Minneapolis to Moose Jaw. I'm pulling this up right now. Minneapolis to Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan? Yes. It takes you right through Fargo.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And you didn't stay overnight in Fargo, did you?

[Titus]

No, just stopped for lunch.

[Big T]

All right, so you were on 94 the entire time. Okay, I'm. I'm guessing that you did not veer off the highway too much.

[Titus]

Wouldn't imagine so.

[Big T]

Okay, so now let's see if we can find some McDonald's that are close by to this highway.

[Titus]

There is one that's right off right here.

[Big T]

That's probably it. Then.

[Titus]

Can you send you want me to reach out?

[Big T]

Well, I was going to say send it to. Send it to McKenzie and Mad Dog and see if they can make a clip out of that with the location of this McDonald's sending to the group

[Titus]

chat we have without y' all in it.

[Big T]

That's nice.

[Rianne Fran]

It's. It's like the kids group. It is the kids group chat.

[Big T]

I love that.

[Titus]

Y' all are never mentioned, if that's what's the most.

[Rianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Big T]

What's the most recent thing you guys have talked about in there?

[Rianne Fran]

Oh, I. MacKenzie asked who big T hates at this company.

[Big T]

Oh, okay.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

I was wondering. The list. We talk in it, like, almost every day.

[Big T]

That's nice.

[Rianne Fran]

Yeah. And then Big T honked at someone thinking it was me, and it wasn't.

[Titus]

Yeah. Someone was walking in to the office last week as I was sitting in my car. I hadn't gotten out yet, and she had headphones in and looked like Madeline. So I honked to try to, like, startle her, and it wasn't Madeline.

[Big T]

That's embarrassing.

[Titus]

Yeah. So she just kind of looked around like, what the hell was. And I just kind of sunk down in the driver's seat.

[Big T]

Okay. Yeah, there's a couple different McDonald's here. That's right off 94.

[Aryan]

You've got.

[Big T]

You've got one that looks to be in the Brunsdale area next to Lindenwood Park.

[Aryan]

Man's is on the case.

[Big T]

Yeah. And then you've got another one that's closer to the zoo. It's closer to the Red River Zoo in the Willow park neighborhood. And then you've got a third one, and this one's kind of by the Costco.

[Titus]

I would have remembered seeing a Costco off Veterans Boulevard.

[Big T]

Was it on Veterans Boulevard?

[Titus]

I wish I knew.

[Big T]

Okay. Also, hit up. Hit up blackjack and just see if he. If he can remember what.

[Titus]

Just based on context clues, this Brunsdale looks like. I mean, it's right off the interstate.

[Big T]

Do you remember, were you hungry when you got into Fargo? Or did you get into Fargo and then you thought, hey, I'm getting a little bit hungry.

[Titus]

We. I. Again, this. It's been a long time. I don't recall exactly. I just remember we stopped at a McDonald's in Fargo, and the guy that was in there, I want to say it was a one man show at the time. I could be making that up.

[Big T]

So he's running the chop?

[Titus]

I think so,

[Big T]

yeah. I mean, interactions like that with very helpful people are always good things to remember.

[Titus]

I hope he's doing great.

[Big T]

I've had. I've had a couple of those experiences where I'm like, that person's really good at their job, and they take a lot of pride.

[Titus]

It's what you want.

[Big T]

That's exactly what you want. I'm just thinking we live. We live right next to Hamburger University.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Here in Chicago.

[Titus]

Harder to get into than Harvard.

[Big T]

That would be. That would be the exact type of person. That would be Hamburger University material.

[Titus]

A thousand percent.

[Big T]

Like, that's somebody that you.

[Titus]

I hadn't even considered that.

[Big T]

You want that person running various franchises for you.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Like a territory boss.

[Titus]

Should we try to go to hbu? I actually stopped in HBU yesterday on the way home from the bar after the. The US Game.

[Big T]

Did you?

[Titus]

Yeah. What'd you get walked home? Well, I thought they'd have lunch by then. It was like 10:45, but they didn't, so I just got a chicken biscuit and a coffee.

[Big T]

They should have a basketball team.

[Titus]

HPU.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Might be better than Chicago State.

[Big T]

Yeah. McDonald's should have a basketball team. McDonald's All Americans.

[Titus]

Is Chicago State like, the fakest Division 1 school of all time?

[Big T]

I think they're probably up there.

[Aryan]

What constitutes a Division 1 school?

[Big T]

What are the. What's the metric, you know, in basketball? I'm not really sure because there's so

[Titus]

many Division 1 schools like to be in the FBS. In football, which is 135 now or something. There are legit. Like, your stadium has to be a certain capacity you have. I think you have to have a certain enrollment and. But then in basketball, there's what, three. There are 365 Division 1 basketball schools, which is just way too many. That's a lot like Kansas is not playing the same sport as Mississippi Valley State, who is currently ranked last in kin palm at 2 and 26.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Their two wins. They just won their last game. Congrats. They beat Texas Southern. Their other win came on November 5th against the Mississippi University for women.

[Big T]

I remember hearing about that school, actually. Not a women's team, I would imagine

[Titus]

they have a men's team, I would assume.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Beat the hell out of them. 97, 61.

[Big T]

You got to circle that. If you're Mississippi Valley. The same. If you're Mississippi Valley and you haven't won a game all season, you circle. You circle the women's college game.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And you're like, that's. We get. We have to get off the Schneider somehow.

[Titus]

But they did be. Just beat Texas Southern, so maybe they

[Big T]

getting something Going, I've got a message for some of the. Some of the haters and losers out

[Titus]

there, Big T. Of which there are many.

[Big T]

There are a lot of. And I'm sure that you saw a lot of these haters and a lot of these losers out there making fun of FBI Director Cash Patel for having a good time with the boys in the locker room. Cash Patel happened to be in Milan. He was over there doing FBI business, as one does, which he was very clear about, and it happened to coincide with the United States hockey games. He's a big hockey fan, so he thought, like, might be cool to stop in and see if they're playing, might even recognize some of the guys out there. So he stopped by the arena. Sure enough, it was at the time that they were playing. They won the gold medal, and then they demanded that Cash Patel came into their locker room and chug beers with them afterwards. So I don't understand why people are upset about. About a guy for, like, just stop. He was on the way to the airport after me. He had meetings all week. He was breaking his back on official FBI business. And then a friend of his was like, hey, can you stop by real quick and say hi? And he did. So I don't understand what the problem is.

[Aryan]

Boy look like a dork.

[Big T]

Did I cover it? Did I cover it? I feel like, yeah, well, guess what? He's the FBI director. He's not supposed to look cool. He's just there. He's probably. He's probably doing a lot of, like, boots on the ground, like, getting his hands dirty, investigatory work. Didn't have time to look cool.

[Rianne Fran]

Might have been over there.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

You know where they took her?

[Big T]

You never know.

[Titus]

Kim. Nancy Guthrie's been dead for a long time.

[Rianne Fran]

That still doesn't negate the fact that they would like to know where she went.

[Titus]

Damn sure. Is the FBI doing that?

[Big T]

They're definitely involved. Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

Cash Patel has been tweeting about it.

[Titus]

Yeah. I mean, that's what I did notice from Cash was when he was on the phone with Trump, the screen said dt, which means he just has the number saved as Donald Trump. I feel like that's. I mean, it makes sense, but also, like, you don't even have. It's not even President Trump. It's just Donald Trump. Yeah, yeah.

[Big T]

No, that's a fair point. I don't have any problem with the. The, like, people on the hockey team not being like, hey, Cash Patel, get out of my locker room. Like, there's some people that are mad at the hockey team for not standing up to the director of the FBI and telling him to leave like, it's Bryce Harper talking to Rob Manford. Get the fuck out of our locker room. And then also, like, you get a call from the president, you're pumped. You just won the gold medal. You get a call from anybody, and you're like, thanks, man. I appreciate the word sport. Good looking out. It doesn't matter. But some people are mad at the players for not, like, kicking Cash Patel out. Cash Patel is a hockey man. I'll be perfectly clear about Cash Patel. He gets cheated on a lot by his girlfriend, and he has to hang out with the boys sometimes and party. And if you got to blow a little steam off, I think it's more productive that a guy who's getting cheated on left and right has the boys to hang out with if they're in such a position as running the FBI, because that aggression could bottle up and be counterproductive to their job. Running the FBI.

[Aryan]

Where's this accusation of him getting cheated on? Come I'm. This. I don't notice what's going on.

[Big T]

Oh, she's definitely. Yeah, she's definitely cheating on him.

[Aryan]

Who's his girl?

[Big T]

I didn't hear.

[Aryan]

He. I thought. He's not married. He had a girl.

[Rianne Fran]

Oh. She's a country star, super mega Famous person with 15,000 monthly listeners on Spotify.

[Aryan]

Okay. All right. Cash Patel.

[Big T]

Yeah, girl.

[Aryan]

I'm. I'm out the loop. Do Alexis Wilkins.

[Big T]

I think he.

[Titus]

I believe it's a popular conspiracy theory that she might be an agent for a foreign intelligence service.

[Big T]

I believe that is. I don't know if that's true. I think that she.

[Titus]

I don't know that's true either, but it's a popular theory.

[Big T]

I think that theory might. If I was Cash Patel, I would. I would amplify that theory because it would explain things a lot, a lot better than 27. She's cheating on me.

[Titus]

Graduated from Belmont. Shout out.

[Aryan]

He's 45. She's 27.

[Rianne Fran]

One of his eyes don't look the right way.

[Aryan]

I don't know, man. Them relationships always kind of. Kind of funny to me. Not judging.

[Rianne Fran]

No, I am.

[Big T]

It's.

[Aryan]

There. There is a power dynamic. There's some data on this, but, you know, hey, you know, I've been. Let love be loved.

[Big T]

I think it's fine. I. I think it's fine, but just. I would. I'd rather him get hammered with the boys than to be feeling lonely and upset and getting hammered by himself. Feel like that's counterproductive. Although he does. Here's the thing. I would like to be doing almost everything that Cash Patel does. It seems like he's got a pretty good life right now, aside from the whole, like, running the FBI thing. He's doing all right, except for the whole job. If he. This is how he's just doing. Like, this is. He's cosplaying like he's Dave Portnoy.

[Rianne Fran]

Wouldn't you. I. I understand that he's very bad at his job, but isn't that almost sweeter that you can be so bad at your job and no one does anything about it and you still get to do all the fun stuff? You don't even have to put in the hard work to be good at your job.

[Big T]

No, because he still listens to the people that say that he's bad at the job. He's still got the haters out there, and I think he knows that they're a little bit. Right.

[Rianne Fran]

Right.

[Big T]

His job is a podcaster. He's a podcaster, totally. If he. That's why I'm saying, like, he is. He is doing Dave Portnoy fantasy camp. It's like, travel around the world, go to all the fights that you want to, watch a lot of hockey, hang out with boys. Yeah, that would be. That's a good life that he's got going. But then, unfortunately, he's also the head of the FBI in the United States when that happens, and that is kind of a shitty space to be in when you suck at that job fair and everyone's always mad at you about that.

[Rianne Fran]

That's fair.

[Big T]

He does love hockey, though, so good for. But I. I saw him in the locker room, like, just getting hammered. It's like, this is. If you're the director of the FBI, your job is to be, like, the most serious dork ever. You have to have. You have to be almost like, no fun at all. Everyone should hate you. Even the people that work for you, they should hate you, but God damn it, they should respect you.

[Titus]

Well, I was going to say, like, Comey, but then you said respect.

[Big T]

Yeah. I don't know how the people that worked for the people at the FBI didn't.

[Titus]

Oh, I. I think so. I think pretty much everyone hated Comey.

[Big T]

I think it's like, if you have a straight laced dork that doesn't even like, that doesn't like to laugh. Like, I don't. I don't enjoy seeing movies.

[Titus]

That's James Comey.

[Big T]

Yeah. Oh, then that's That's.

[Titus]

Who was Trump's other one?

[Big T]

Ray.

[Titus]

Ray.

[Big T]

Wasn't Ray involved?

[Titus]

I don't know who that is. Comey's the only one I can remember.

[Big T]

Comey is. He's now become like the most emotional 6 foot 8 guy ever.

[Titus]

Oh, really?

[Big T]

I think he's doing like poetry and watercolors and shit.

[Titus]

George Bush is painting as well.

[Big T]

Mm. You know who else was a painter? Think about it. What else we got going on the news today?

[Titus]

Mexico.

[Big T]

Mexico. Puerto Vallarta. Thoughts and prayers with anyone stranded in Puerto Vallarta right now.

[Titus]

So Mexico

[Big T]

headcount.

[Aryan]

Yeah. How many people stuck there?

[Big T]

Stuck there? I don't know. I don't know. I think it's a combination of like, a lot of. It's a big tourist area with a lot of resorts. Last I saw there. Haven't. I haven't seen any reports of like, tourists being taken hostage or killed or anything like that there. I've seen a lot of reports of like federales and cartel members being shot or injured, but I haven't seen too much about civilians, either Mexican civilians or foreigners that are there on tourism. But it does seem like they pretty much shut down the entire town because the head of the local cartel there was killed by the federales and they just decided in. In retaliation they're going to set fire to a bunch of cars, maybe set off some explosives, shut down the airport, pretty much just like shut down the city in general and. And wait for the troops to come in and try to win back the territory. That's my understanding of what's going on right now.

[Titus]

Did you see the phone call between that guy, the cartel leader that was killed, and the police chief from 2016? There's a recording of a phone call. It's insane. He calls up the police chief and is like, listen here, fuck head. Like, you've been messing with my people. Do you want us to eliminate your police force, basically? And he's like, sir, I'm so sorry. Like, I'm telling my guys, back off. He's. And he's just manhandling this police chief. Yeah. And he's like, you, like, receiving our money, doing this, that and the other. And basically threatens to kill him. And the police chief is like, I promise this will all be sorted out. Like they. They run the country.

[Big T]

Yeah, they do.

[Titus]

And there's a video I saw of. It's like a SWAT truck. It's people who work for the cartel and they are in full head to toe military gear. Like you would think they were a Like a Navy SEAL unit and it's the cartel.

[Big T]

Yeah. They're more powerful than the military in a lot of cases. I wonder, I wonder what happened that made the government decide like, okay, that's enough for you right now.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Because like, you know, there's a lot of times that they know where the cartel leaders are and they just figure, let's just. What's happening right now might be preferable to the alternative, which is chaos.

[Titus]

What I had always heard about the resorts in Mexico was you don't have to worry about anything because they're run by the cartel. So they make sure that they're running efficiently and that nothing happens.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Because that's how they get money other than the drugs.

[Big T]

Tourism.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah. Tourism is, is pretty important down there. I was in Puerto Varta, like What is that, 2012?

[Titus]

You tell us.

[Big T]

I think it was 2012. I was down there. Yeah. Like 14 years. Looked like a lovely city and went whale watching there. Stayed at an all inclusive resort that you could. You couldn't really eat any of the food at because it was all bad. That's when I learned that all inclusive resorts are not always great.

[Titus]

It all tasted bad or was. Would like make you sick.

[Big T]

No, it all tasted terrible.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Like there's. I found the hot dogs were like the one thing that tasted okay.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Besides that. It was like, yeah, you can, you can eat all you want, but you're not going to want to eat any of. Seems it's a very like popular resort town. I saw some of the, some of the people complaining yesterday about like there was a. I think one message that was written to like the. The Marriott subreddit or the Bonvoy subreddit.

[Titus]

Platinum Elite.

[Big T]

Yeah, did you see that one? Yep. Like complaining about their status not being honored in the checkout times.

[Titus]

I have it here.

[Big T]

Yeah. Read this one. This was great. The.

[Titus]

The title is Weston. Puerto Vallarta won't honor late checkout with streets closed. This guy said, I'm Platinum Elite. Over a thousand lifetime Marriott nights PV is on fire due to the cartel setting cars and buses on fire all over the city. The airport is closed and Ubers and taxis are not running. I asked for a 4pm checkout which I'm entitled to based on availability. They won't extend past 2pm and said we would have to use the hospitality suite. We're supposed to be leaving for Bucerios this afternoon, but that isn't looking very good. Worst Bonvoy Property of Ever experienced. I don't think anyone will Be checking in today. So there's no reason not to at least extend us to 4pm I have multiple questions. First of all, I did a little bit of digging. Platinum Elite is the third tier out of five. And. And it's barely anything.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Ambassador Elite is what you want to be. So Platinum Elite is If you stay 50 nights a year, which is not nothing. Titanium Elite is 75 nights a year. And Ambassador Elite is if you spend 100 nights per year in Marriott hotels and spend at least $23,000. So if this guy was Ambassador Elite and he wanted a 4pm checkout I'd say they should go out there and take on the cartel themselves. If you spend 100 nights a year

[Big T]

in Marriott's does does Marriott armed security

[Titus]

force and there they might they should.

[Big T]

Like what corporation if they had their own like paid guard system or guard service, what corporation do you think would have like an unexpectedly lethal and diligent didn't Dole force.

[Titus]

Wasn't Dole involved in a war?

[Big T]

Oh yeah. Big time.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

The pineapple. Yeah. United Fruit Company. I feel like obviously Bass Pro Shops.

[Titus]

Sure.

[Big T]

Bass Pro Shops. But you would expect that Bass Pro Shops would. Would have probably like the seventh strongest military in the world.

[Titus]

Probably a If you're listing places you want to go in the event of an apocalypse. Bass Pro Shop up there.

[Big T]

Oh for sure. Except if you go there, there's a lot of guns in Bass Pro Shop.

[Titus]

Well that's a plus.

[Big T]

But I think that like you'd have. It would get overrun with people looking for guns and then that that might be a bad.

[Titus]

Okay.

[Big T]

A bad scenario that you're in zombie

[Titus]

apocalypse for sure then. Because then it's just humans against zombies. There would be no infighting.

[Big T]

That would be a good spot for it. Yeah.

[Aryan]

There will be no infighting with a zombie apocalypse.

[Big T]

Brother.

[Aryan]

Have you met humans?

[Titus]

Well we haven't been faced with that reality yet.

[Aryan]

Just saying that's the first thing I'm protecting myself from is humans. The zombies.

[Titus]

But if you're holed up in a Bass Pro Shop with some people you you may not otherwise like. But the zombies are coming. I think you're going to be on the same.

[Aryan]

We get into your dream scenario. Whoever holds the bigger stick makes the law.

[Titus]

Okay. I'm just saying I'm sure but I think all other disagreements go out the window when the zombies are trying to kill you.

[Aryan]

I would love for that to be the case.

[Titus]

Yeah. Maybe not on a macro scale pretend

[Aryan]

but zombie then we in.

[Titus]

Okay, but I'm saying In your bass pro shop, Right. Like the zombies are. Are invading. You're. You're shooting the zombies first and disagreeing on whatever else later.

[Aryan]

Imminent threat. Yeah, I could see that.

[Titus]

My other. My other questions about this, okay, this guy already has a 2pm checkout, and he needs 4pm what difference is that making? Also, where are you going? And they offered him the. Said we would have to use the hospitality suite. They gave him another place to hang out, and he was like, no, I need to be in my room until 4:00pm yeah, that's pretty. 4:00pm is an egregious time to check out.

[Big T]

I think he was expecting that the whole cartel violence thing would wrap up between two and four potential. He's going to need those extra two hours.

[Titus]

Sure.

[Big T]

To let the car bombs blow over.

[Titus]

I've never heard of a 2pm checkout, much less 4.

[Big T]

No, 2pm is crazy. Usually you can. You can finagle your way. What's standard checkout now?

[Titus]

11.

[Aryan]

11?

[Big T]

11 seems correct. Yeah. There have been a couple times in the last year where that can get

[Aryan]

a little early, depending on how they've

[Big T]

pushed it to 10. I've had. I've had a hotel push it to 10. I was PM no, 10am oh, they pushed you to attempt AM yeah, they're like standard checkouts. 10am Sir.

[Aryan]

That's kind of egregious.

[Titus]

Yeah, I was in San Diego vomiting my brains out, and at 11 on the dot, they were at my door. And I was like, yeah, you're gonna have to come back.

[Big T]

Let me ask you guys a question. Do you guys check out of hotel rooms?

[Aryan]

I do not, no.

[Titus]

But now there's a big thing online, like you're an. If you don't.

[Big T]

Well, yeah, that started we. We were talking on part of my take at the super bowl because Big Cat's assistant Dom, was like, hey, are you guys going to check out? And we're like, no. What do you mean, check out? And he was like, yeah, you got to check out a hotel room. And then we said, we've never. Chuck checked out of a hotel room. And people got mad.

[Titus]

Apparently people love to shame you now.

[Big T]

Love to shame. Like, I don't. I. I still don't really understand what's. What's so shameful about not checking out. They know that you're supposed to be gone by 11, right?

[Titus]

Yeah, they say they can clean the

[Big T]

room earlier, but I'm usually leaving that. I'm. Usually I'm leaving at 11. Unless I'm hitting the road.

[Titus]

I'm out early.

[Big T]

If I'm hitting the road, then I'll get out early. But otherwise it's like, yeah, I'm out of the room by 11. You know that I'm out of the room by 11.

[Titus]

Yeah. I, I don't, I don't check out. Maybe I'll start occasionally.

[Big T]

If I get, if I see one of those boxes in the lobby, I'll put my card in there, you know, you know the box. If I happen to be walking past it and my cards already out, I will put it in that box. Sometimes I'll just like, do a flyby at the front desk. And if I'm walking past the front desk and there's no line, I'll just be like, check it out. I'll give him one of those.

[Titus]

Yeah. And. But I would know if there was how many people in line until. You would never do it.

[Big T]

If there's one person line I wouldn't do.

[Titus]

I agree.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Titus]

I'm not waiting behind someone to say, I'm checking out.

[Big T]

No.

[Aryan]

If I'm walking, there should be some kind of seamless thing that they do on their end to prevent that.

[Titus]

I think a lot of hotels have. You can do it on an app now.

[Aryan]

Even that's kind of inconvenient.

[Big T]

Like a button as you walk out of the room.

[Aryan]

Push the button. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's a them thing. Because it's, it is, it's, it's not inconvenient in the sense of like, yeah, I could do it, but like, but no.

[Big T]

Yeah, I paid the money for the service of sleeping in that room until a certain time. Until a certain time.

[Aryan]

Allotted that time.

[Big T]

Yeah. Then I'm allotted that time. And then at that point, whatever happens is between you and the Lord. Like, end of, end of my end of the transaction right there, I'm out.

[Aryan]

That's, that's probably what my argument would be. I paid for, I paid for my time. If you give an option and I leave a little bit earlier, I can, I can concede that time. Yeah, but give me a button to press. Yeah, I'm with that.

[Big T]

But I, as far as you're concerned, I have this room until 11. What if I change my mind?

[Aryan]

My room till 11 change my mind.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

How much would. If they were like, we'll give you X amount of money on your. Off your next reservation. If you check out at the front desk, what would that number need to be?

[Big T]

Or even if I leave at 11, like, just to make me stop by the Front desk?

[Titus]

Yeah, you just. You have to stop by the front desk. I'm checking out a so and so. They give you.

[Big T]

Do they give me a piece of paper that I have to sign?

[Titus]

Yes, they print out the thing they have.

[Big T]

Okay. So I have to wait for them to print something out and then. Do I need to swipe my card again?

[Titus]

No.

[Big T]

To close out.

[Titus]

No, you've already paid.

[Big T]

Close out the tab. I just need to wait for them to print something out, sign it. Do they then give me, like, my copy that I have to take?

[Titus]

Yeah, there's two copies.

[Big T]

There's two kind. There's no trash can around the front?

[Titus]

No, no.

[Big T]

So I have to like, go out into whatever car I'm getting into next with a piece of paper in my hand that I. That I don't need. I think 50% off.

[Titus]

Wow.

[Big T]

50% off and I'll do it and you got yourself a deal. It's a bad way to start your day is having a wadded up piece of paper that you don't have anywhere to put it and you don't need it. That'll ruin your day.

[Titus]

Do you know at Disney World they have trash cans? I don't know what the number is, but Walt Disney figured out the exact amount of time, maximum amount of time people will walk with a piece of trash before they'll just throw it on the ground. So Disney World has trash cans that amount apart of the whole park.

[Big T]

Oh, wow. I did not know that. Yeah, just like behavioral science.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah. So I guess we didn't really talk that much about what's going on in Puerto Vallarta, but we don't really know. Just seems like the cartel is not happy that their leader got taken out. And so they're going to. They're going to muck things up for a while down there. If you have any vacation plans in Puerto Vallarta, probably best to avoid that area for a while.

[Titus]

Surely they're refunding everything, right?

[Big T]

Good luck

[Titus]

then. What do you do then?

[Big T]

That's where they can't go. That's where the double platinum comes into.

[Titus]

Right. Platinum Elite.

[Big T]

The status.

[Titus]

Platinum Elite. Too good of a name to be third tier out of five.

[Big T]

So what is. What is the best again?

[Titus]

It was Titanium Elite and Ambassador Elite. Titanium. Platinum is better than titanium, right?

[Big T]

Yes. Yeah, yeah. What about Platinum Plus?

[Titus]

That wasn't on there.

[Big T]

All these. All these different, like, bonus programs. They use the same words. Premium plus.

[Titus]

Elite is a big one with hotels.

[Big T]

Yeah. All right, what else we got going on in the World today, maybe a war with Iran, but we're still kind of waiting on that.

[Titus]

Yeah, I thought that was supposed to happen this weekend, and it never really materialized.

[Big T]

You know, some would say that that's the difference between the United States and. And Russia is that Russia would do it during the Olympics.

[Titus]

We waited.

[Big T]

We wait out of respect for the Games, for the global community.

[Titus]

Right.

[Big T]

Russia does love pulling during the Olympics, though. It's their favorite. That's why we keep punishing them at the Olympics. That's why their. Their teams aren't allowed to compete. Because, like, when it was in Sochi, that's when they invaded Crimea. And then they did it again with the whole Ukraine thing back in. What was that? 2020. Whenever that was.

[Titus]

Whatever happened to the. They let them compete, but it was like Olympic athletes from Russia.

[Big T]

It was ROC Nation. It was Roc Republic. Oh, no, it's China Republic.

[Titus]

Russian Olympic athletes or something.

[Big T]

Something like that. Yeah.

[Titus]

Or competitors. Yeah.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And after the Cold War, they were allowed to compete as the Unified Team.

[Titus]

No, but this was in the last few years that they did this. And then this time there was just nothing.

[Big T]

I think it was. Yeah, the Russian Olympic Committee, but they weren't allowed to play the Russian national anthem this time. Now, that's. It's interesting because Russia would have had a pretty good hockey team.

[Titus]

Well, that's what we got to have them for. Hockey.

[Big T]

Yeah. Russia would have a great hockey team. I would like to make an announcement on the show. I will give you the opportunity to change my mind. I am opting out of all. Punch the monkey.

[Titus]

No.

[Big T]

No discourse. Change my mind.

[Rianne Fran]

Have you looked at it?

[Big T]

So cute.

[Rianne Fran]

Well. Or her. I believe it's a her.

[Aryan]

All I've seen is a picture on Instagram of a. Some kind of. Something's going on with a monkey. I did. I didn't know. I scrolled. I did not. But I guess it's monkey's going viral and I don't know why.

[Titus]

For he's sad.

[Rianne Fran]

I believe it's a she. I believe we're misgendering her.

[Titus]

No, that's fake news. I think that's wrong. Yeah, I think they found out it's a he. Regardless.

[Rianne Fran]

They are.

[Titus]

Well, now you are misgendering. Sorry.

[Rianne Fran]

He. The.

[Titus]

The monkey.

[Big T]

We can do it. We can always do it.

[Titus]

The monkey, I guess, is new and got put into this zoo and. Is it Japan?

[Rianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Titus]

And the other monkeys hate him.

[Rianne Fran]

His mother abandoned him, so they sent him to this zoo, and in his little, like, engagement thing, they're Bullying him, like, physically, like, hitting him. And there is video of us.

[Titus]

So they gave him a monkey stuffed animal that he loves and, like, hugs and runs to protect him from the other monkeys.

[Rianne Fran]

It makes me sick.

[Titus]

But now I think he's making friends. I've seen that they're starting to accept him.

[Rianne Fran]

Yes, they are. They are accepting him now. But it's so sad the way he carries around this, like, monkey stuffed animal as protection. It, like, makes me sick to my stomach.

[Titus]

In one video, he was trying to get the stuffed animal to hold. To hug him.

[Rianne Fran]

I can't.

[Titus]

But now he's. He's good. Now they're friends.

[Aryan]

I mean, that's it.

[Big T]

That's just.

[Aryan]

He. Monkey. Monkey got a little stuffed animal.

[Titus]

Yeah. Remember this happened with. I guess this wasn't even real. What was it? A couple years ago, there was that TikTok fake fish.

[Rianne Fran]

Oh, yeah. I was literally just gonna say it was the fish with the light on it and it came to the surface to die.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

And that got me, too. Yeah. And the tripod fish. More recently. Wasn't there a pregnant fish? Maybe.

[Big T]

I'm. I think they lied about it.

[Titus]

And then there was the Mu Dang thing for a little bit, which was.

[Rianne Fran]

But she's maga. They say. Yeah, Mudang is alt. Right.

[Titus]

Where does this come from?

[Big T]

The hippo.

[Titus]

I forget.

[Rianne Fran]

I keep seeing on Twitter, like, oh, Mudang's a conservative, but I don't know why.

[Titus]

The Chinese hippo.

[Rianne Fran]

Yeah. In the Cincinnati. Or.

[Titus]

No, you're thinking of Fiona.

[Rianne Fran]

Fiona the hippo. Where's Mu Dang?

[Titus]

Asia, China or something.

[Rianne Fran]

Oh, I am thinking of Fiona because also, another example. Fiona the pygmy hippo.

[Big T]

But this. This Punch the monkey thing is. It's too depressing.

[Rianne Fran]

I know. It is depressing.

[Big T]

Every video I've seen, it's just like, oh, this poor monkey is getting beaten up. And then it goes back to his stuffed animal.

[Rianne Fran]

I know. I had.

[Big T]

I don't want to watch any more of that.

[Rianne Fran]

I had to, like, restrain from engaging with punch content because it, like, actually made me sick to my stomach.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

It's way more fun to watch, like, Alyssa Liu be cool than it is to watch punch the monkey be completely abandoned and have to rely on a stuffed animal.

[Big T]

Yeah. The Alyssa Lou discourse also got annoying.

[Rianne Fran]

I'm just.

[Big T]

We should not have discourse about people.

[Rianne Fran]

I'm so obsessed. I'm so obsessed with her.

[Big T]

No. No one should be allowed to talk about other people.

[Rianne Fran]

No, I agree, actually.

[Big T]

It's so crazy. Maybe it's Just like the algorithm that is shaping people's beliefs and shaping how they choose to interact with things for monetization.

[Rianne Fran]

Right.

[Big T]

The Alyssa Lou discourse was some of the worst I've ever seen. Within about five hours of her winning the gold medal.

[Rianne Fran]

Which way are you taking. What are you talking about? Because I've seen two levels of discourse with her. One is about how. I don't even want to say it. Men are sexualizing her.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

And the other is about her dad. Which one are you talking about?

[Big T]

I'm talking about. I'm talking about the. The men sexualizing her stuff.

[Rianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Big T]

But it's also like, it's two different arguments that are both bad, which is like, one. One is sexualizing, like, oh, my God, she's so hot. And oh, my God, I. I can't believe that she does, like, this stuff with her hair. She's like, she's teasing all the skies. And then the other is, she's mid.

[Rianne Fran]

Right.

[Big T]

And it's like, neither one of those two things are good.

[Rianne Fran]

No.

[Titus]

Who.

[Aryan]

Who is this?

[Rianne Fran]

So she is the. She was basically like. You know how during the Olympics there comes out, like, from a niche sport, like the person. The story of the Olympics kind of thing?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Like the dancing lady from Australia.

[Rianne Fran]

Yes. She was kind of that for this Olympics in a positive way. The dancing lady was more of a negative connotation. This girl, Basically, she is 20 years old. She's on the United States figure skating team. She was like a child prodigy. Was the youngest national championship. She won the national championship at 13, went to the 2022 Olympics at 16 and retired. And retired at 16 and was like, I'm okay. I've accomplished all I need to. Then came back two years later and had this crazy comeback and then just won gold at the Olympics after taking this break and retiring. And her father raised her in this really, really high environment or high intensity environment where, you know, she's homeschooled and she's on a strict diet and all of this stuff. And her dad sacrificed so much for her to be this elite athlete. And she came back and was like, I'm not going to make any. Or no one's allowed to tell me what to wear, what to do, what to eat. I'm going to come back on my terms. I'm going to have joy about this whole process. She is like an alt girl. Like, she has a mouth piercing. She has crazy dyed hair that's really awesome. She's 20 and she also gives, like, no fucks about the competition of it. All she's like, it's all about the journey. A gold medal is a physical thing. I could lose this tomorrow. This is not what I'm here for. I'm here to enjoy skating. So she's had this really, really cool mindset and level of chill and confidence that has come over her for this Olympic Games. And she's this awesome, awesome figure for honestly, everyone, but especially young women to look up to in sports. And men basically have taken it and consider her to be their words, not mine. I want to make this perfectly clear that she is goon. Baiting them.

[Big T]

Goonbait.

[Aryan]

Yes, that's baiting.

[Big T]

All right. So when I saw that one in particular, I thought to myself, you know what? Maybe there's no hope. Well, no, no, I actually do think that there's hope because, like, the. The amount of men out there that would actually use the term goonbait.

[Rianne Fran]

Right.

[Big T]

It's gotta be, like, you could probably count them on two hands, hopefully, like, in the United States. Like, it's definitely deep incel.

[Rianne Fran]

It's like deep. Deep porn has rotted your brain.

[Big T]

Yeah. I think. I think most. Most Americans watched it and were like, this is very cool. And it is very cool how she was like. I. I think there's a whole conversation that is probably overdue to be had about ice skating and gymnastics and a lot of these other sports where you have to hyper focus on something from such a young age, the age of, like, nine years old, to excel at it.

[Titus]

Right.

[Big T]

And it's very, very unhealthy. Not just, like, obviously in gymnastics, there's been, like, documented, well, like, abuse that's happened, but just the idea that you, like, send your kids away.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Big T]

And all they do is focus on one sport so they can be good at the Olympics. It never ends out well for anybody involved. They. They either, like, have a disastrous mental breakdown and hopefully come out the other side, or they just get so involved in that sport that they end up making it worse for the next generation and put them through the same stuff that they had to go through.

[Rianne Fran]

Totally.

[Big T]

But it seems like Alyssa. Leo. How do you say your last name?

[Rianne Fran]

Yeah, Leo.

[Big T]

Leo. Seems like she has it kind of figured out.

[Rianne Fran]

I think she has the most good perspective I've ever seen out of any person ever in the world.

[Big T]

And she's really good.

[Rianne Fran]

And she's so good. She won gold. She has sick routines. She's so awesome. I had loved getting to watch her this Olympics. And, yeah, the men online, I saw, I think the tweet that you saw as well. PFT was like, no one told me it was the goon baiting Olympics. And it's just pictures of, like, female athletes where it's like, brother, this.

[Big T]

It's only fans brain.

[Rianne Fran]

It's, it's. I think it's far worse than only fans. I think it's deep, deep, like page 200 of Pornhub Porn that you couldn't even think about if you tried. It's just like, so terrible.

[Aryan]

I don't know if I'm like, desensitized to that kind of or my libido is running all E. But I, I, I. Another thing. I've never really been like that. Like, I've never seen, like, an attractive woman and, like, swooned in a way that was like, oh, my God, bro, I would, you know, it's never, it's never been that for me. It still ain't. So I don't. That, that missed me. I don't understand that shit. That is a, that's for the level of. It's a level of hornet that I just can't relate to.

[Titus]

Like, it's.

[Rianne Fran]

And it's not even. And again, not to get like, too woke friend, but, like, it's not even. I think it's far past horny. I think it's obviously those types of people. Men don't see women as actual, like, human beings. That's. It's a pure sexual object. And guy is like, guy is shocked that pretty women in Olympic. Like, it is not. You are not making a point by saying, like, hot women exist in the Olympics. Like, it's so disgusting and gross. And it's like, these women worked their whole lives to be elite at these sports. And dudes on Twitter are like, goon baiting. Like, you are despicable, like, human scum. Like, I hope. God, I hope you get what you deserve. And I think it's gross.

[Aryan]

Wipe them out.

[Rianne Fran]

And more and more. Yeah, I think it's gross. I think, like, her, like, Mikaela Shiffrin, Eileen Goo. Even though she, she has her own discourse. Like, I think all of them are so great. I think a lot of this Olympics was like, mindset talk of, like, I can have fun and be good at my sport at the same time. I don't need to, like, ruin my whole life for this. And Alyssa Liu was like, obviously, old

[Aryan]

man question, do women goon or is that just the dude thing?

[Big T]

I mean, Arian, you remember that article that we briefly read about about the goon culture?

[Aryan]

I mean, it's It's a very faint memory. I don't. My bandwidth is.

[Rianne Fran]

Isn't gooning jerking off?

[Big T]

It's. It's. It's like a. I don't want to say lifestyle, but it's a lifestyle. It's like dudes that have set up their entire life around jacking off.

[Aryan]

So is there a.

[Big T]

The Gooners?

[Aryan]

A woman version? Is there a woman version of Gooners?

[Big T]

I don't think. I don't think so.

[Rianne Fran]

I don't think women. Stupid rivalry.

[Big T]

I think that there's a lot of. There's a lot of guys that are actively involved in the. The gooning subculture that might pretend to be women online.

[Aryan]

So interesting. Is there gay gooning? Because then a dude could be goombating a gay Gooner. Right?

[Rianne Fran]

You've lost me.

[Big T]

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what that sentence was.

[Aryan]

Is the culture just strictly around women and dudes beating off to that, or is it just like a. I wouldn't think that.

[Rianne Fran]

I would think that dudes jerking off to women as aragooning or whatever is the majority. That's all.

[Titus]

I'll say.

[Aryan]

So, like, if there's a gay Gooner, real Gooners are like, you know, they'll claim appropriation. I just want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes in this Internet world.

[Rianne Fran]

Again, Aryan, I think there are things happening on the Internet that you would probably collapse at if you saw clearly. But I don't. I don't know. I thought. I didn't know. I thought gooning was just another word for jerking off. I didn't know it was like a more intense version of it.

[Aryan]

Goon baiting might be one of the funniest terms I've heard from the Internet in a long time that you gonna goon bait me like that.

[Rianne Fran]

It's so.

[Big T]

It's fucked up.

[Rianne Fran]

So nasty.

[Big T]

It's fucked up that. That I have to go.

[Aryan]

Yeah. Minding my business income.

[Titus]

Pft.

[Aryan]

With this Lucy haircut.

[Rianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Big T]

So I assaulted you. That was actually. There's an episode of. Of Beavis and Butthead where I think they do that. They try to file a sexual harassment lawsuit against.

[Rianne Fran]

Because a girl looked hot.

[Big T]

A chick in their class because she looked hot and they were getting boners. She's doing it again.

[Aryan]

Beavis and Butthead.

[Big T]

Yeah. The best.

[Aryan]

I need TP for my bunghole.

[Big T]

The best. What else we got going on today in the news?

[Titus]

The only other thing I had was a murder of a caltech professor. Did you see this?

[Big T]

I saw that there was A Caltech professor that was murdered.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Titus]

So this guy, remember there was one in December, a plasma physicist from MIT who was murdered and now this guy from Caltech was killed.

[Aryan]

Right.

[Titus]

And there are some people on the Internet drawing conclusions from the tooth. I guess they both worked on like dark matter kind of stuff and physics. Let me, let me see if I can find the tweet from somebody. The two top scientists, two shooting months apart. A Caltech astronomer in 2026, a leading plasma physicist in 2025. Authorities say, quote, unrelated incidents. Maybe they are. But when people working at the frontiers of science start dying suddenly, it's hard not to wonder whether someone discovered something they weren't supposed to or was about to say something they shouldn't. And then there was another again. These are, I guess you'd call them conspiracy theorists. But Another guy said two brilliant minds gone in months. MIT plasma fusion expert Nuno Larrero shot dead December 2025. Caltech astrophysicist Carl Grill mayor gunned down his porch in February. Lorero worked on magnetized plasmas, the exact domain Ron Joseph's 2024 paper calls out as potentially claim conscious plasmoids, self aware shape shifting entities in our atmosphere that hunt, communicate, replicate and form neural like networks. Joseph argues that plasmas prove a fourth domain of life and that the quantum electromagnetic universe itself is alive and sentient. Waveform collapse, entanglement, universal mind. Consciousness isn't just in brains, it's woven into the cosmos. So I guess there are people who think these guys were working on some real top level and they've now both been murdered.

[Big T]

So it's my understanding is that some people saw the MIT guy when he was murdered and it was so close after the shooting at Brown University. Right. And so they're like, that sounds right. They were like, I'm going to connect these dots here. And then there was another shooting for another professor that reminded them of the other shooting that reminded them of the Brown University shooting. And now they're like, let's connect these dots here. Because it's two professors.

[Titus]

Could be, I do think one professor working on really top level stuff like that getting murdered. Okay, like people get murdered sometimes. Terrible. But that does happen. Two is a little interesting.

[Big T]

It is interesting, but I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna wait for all the facts to come out on this one.

[Aryan]

There is, by the way, astrophysicist young brother who got his PhD, he covered this story. He likes to debunk like this. And he did, he was like, he said it looked Like a robbery going wrong. The original. I don't say original, but one of the conspiracy theories around it was that he discovered water.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

On a planet light years away. And the way to do debunks, he was like, there's. He's like, there's water in our solar system. He said there's frozen water on the moon. Which I did not know that's what he said. Frozen water on the moon. Mars, Europa, Mars. Like, there's. He's like, there's traces of water everywhere in the universe. He's like, it's abundant. He's like, stop doing this. It's funny.

[Big T]

There's that follow up.

[Aryan]

Anybody?

[Big T]

There's that one. And there's always the like scientists discovered method of turning water into energy and they got killed.

[Aryan]

Turning water into.

[Big T]

Yeah, yeah. Because the oil. The oil.

[Aryan]

Like, like dams.

[Big T]

No, yeah, yeah, good point. No, like hydrogen energy. It's like the. We won't have any more use for oil. And so the oil companies had them killed. There's always those conspiracies.

[Aryan]

There's a dude who I follow, he's a brother from Atlanta. I think he's from Atlanta and he can. He converted or he made a machine that converts plastic into oil. Like, I don't know if it's oil, but it's like, is it petroleum? I don't know what. He can run engines off of what he's created, which is really dope. But I think. I don't know if it's unique to him. I think it's been done before, but it's just really hard to do at scale. And I just see a bunch of people saying, like, they're gonna kill you, bro. High security.

[Tom]

Like that.

[Aryan]

Interesting though. Shout out to buddy, though. That's an amazing feat.

[Big T]

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[Rianne Fran]

Yeah, I think we have two.

[Big T]

Yeah, let's rip a couple voicemails.

[Titus]

You said you had one more thing.

[Big T]

Yeah, but let's do voicemail first.

[Aryan]

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[Big T]

Keep up.

[Aryan]

It's golf. Tune in to every match only on espn.

[Tom]

Hey, this is Tom for Providence I'm calling in about the. The receiving yards thing, passing yards, and I actually don't disagree with it. I like what Aryan's saying. I think the, like, if I was to play devil's advocate, I think it's much harder to get yards after catch when the. When the receiver has to make like a catch on like a non perfect ball, like something outside of this frame. Maybe he has to slow up. Like on the deep balls. Maybe it's slow up and then he can still make the catch, but the cornerback, safety, etc. Has time to catch up to him, make a tackle. I think that's really your best argument. Again, I'm not even really saying I believe it. I think the passing yards thing that Aaron's talking about is very interesting. But yeah, I think the argument really is that like you're hitting your receiver in stride and you're like allowing him giving, you know, giving him a good chance to make a move on the defender or like, you know, continuous acceleration. All right, guys, love the pod. Be good. You're all beautiful.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Aryan]

I love. At the very end, he just. And y' all are beautiful. YouTube, brother.

[Big T]

Would you say that you've gotten more support for your idea? More pushback area?

[Aryan]

I would say that I have given less about what people tweet me anymore.

[Big T]

Okay.

[Aryan]

So much so as I don't have Twitter anymore. But I don't know, I. I have yet to hear a convincing argument still. They'll just say that's stupid or, well, then you might as well. What's the word? Well, should we give the lineman your yards as well too? And again, it's. This is not a logically formed argument. You need the ball. The ball carried yards is why we accumulate them and give them to a player. The ball is the thing. Have yet to hear convincing argument. My mind is open, though. Change my mind. Me and Steven Crowder sitting there.

[Big T]

Okay, so that's the last voicemail we have.

[Rianne Fran]

No, we have. I think we have more after that.

[Big T]

By the way, call us up, leave us a voicemail. What's the number?

[Rianne Fran]

347-560-0401.

[Tom]

Hey, macrodosing, this is Brett from South Carolina. I'm calling in about Arian's take on quarterbacks and their receiving yards.

[Big T]

Okay, good, good.

[Tom]

I just had an example that I've been thinking about, and I want Arian to weigh in on it. If there's a really good quarterback that's really good at throwing the deep ball and hits his receivers in stride and hits their outside shoulder all the time, always away from defenders. And that allows the receiver to get more yards after the catch. Shouldn't they get that credit? Also, I understand plays like screens have nothing to do with the skill of the quarterback, but I'm curious what you think of these scenarios. Stay handsome. Stay beautiful. Love you guys.

[Aryan]

Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. I mean, I just. Again, if you want me to answer it, I will. The quarterback has nothing to do with. With when the receiver catches the ball. His. His presence is no longer needed in the stat sheet. It's done. Good throw. You executed your job. Your job was to get that ball to the receiver. Good, bad. Whatever the pass is, you did it. Job's done. Now it's the receiver's job to catch the ball. And whatever you do after that, that's you.

[Big T]

What if the quarterback's arm is so powerful that he throws the ball so hard that when the receiver catches it, it pulls them forward an extra like half mile per hour.

[Aryan]

Your job was to get the receiver to ball. Good job, fam. The receiver's job is to execute afterwards.

[Big T]

No, but they're getting a boost. They're getting a speed boost from catching the ball that was going so fast.

[Aryan]

That is just physics. How physics works.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Okay. You get no, you get. You get no credit for.

[Tom]

For that.

[Big T]

Sounds like Aryan is not willing to engage in good faith debate.

[Aryan]

Not true. I am. I just. It don't follow logically. The argument does not follow. Doesn't follow.

[Rianne Fran]

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[Big T]

Times of war, we wouldn't step up for what?

[Rianne Fran]

Fighting. They were like you. You guys would cower.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Let's hear it. I'm down.

[Rianne Fran]

You want me to get it?

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

I mean, it just sounds like very

[Big T]

odd hating, but like, if the United States was invaded.

[Rianne Fran]

I believe so. I believe that was the, the gist.

[Big T]

Okay. I got a pulled calf right now, so I'm also afraid of heights.

[Rianne Fran]

That's also true here.

[Titus]

What an odd mantle to take up.

[Big T]

I like it though. I like it. Holding us accountable, like, are they. It's kind of a compliment being like, you guys could do some damage, but yet you won't.

[Titus]

Yeah, yeah, we hold it back.

[Tom]

Hey, it's Matt and Charlotte. I just want to leave a voicemail in case you guys ever do one of those sort of hater. Yeah, voicemail mailbag episodes again. Basically, I don't like you guys. And part of the reason is because, you know, you're like military aged males who are able bodied and you, you know, pft. I just listened to you go off on a rant about while not knowing what CENTCOM is, you know, sort of a battle plan for what the F22 and F35 to do.

[Big T]

I do know what

[Tom]

sort of Republican wants to be a macho guy. Like, we know what you guys would do during a time of war. You would go to college, join a frat. Y' all are fucking joke. I'm glad that Billy's off the show, but honestly, y' all are unlistenable. Love you. Stay beautiful, stay handsome.

[Titus]

Okay, sign a listener.

[Rianne Fran]

So unlistenable. He quoted things you talked about on the podcast and called in to ask about it. And did the stay handsome, stay beautiful?

[Titus]

I can't tell if that was a joke or not.

[Big T]

I'm still confused about had to be. Like, during a time of war, what would we do? Like, fact check. I did go to college during a time of war instead of enlisting. I could have volunteered. There was no draft. But we invaded Iraq my, my senior year of high school.

[Titus]

Just a roundtable.

[Big T]

But I did not join a frat. This guy's like, we have empirical evidence.

[Titus]

I, I, I also did not join a frat.

[Big T]

I did not join a frat.

[Aryan]

I, yeah, I want to verify this man's opinion about me. In no shape or form would I ever volunteer for any war.

[Titus]

Agreed.

[Aryan]

Thousand percent correct about that, brother. If I got drafted, I would sit my ass in that jail cell. You call me a coward. That's Fine. I'm not fighting America's war for any kind of global dominance. No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. I'm taking a Malcolm X approach. If you don't know what Malcolm X thinks about that, go ahead and look that up, my brother. But you are absolutely correct. I am not fighting in no other man's war. Now, if you come to my doorstep, I got something for you. Not you. Just like a general. Like, you know, I've equipped myself to defend myself in my house and my land.

[Titus]

Amen.

[Aryan]

Whatever did that. Nah, Brian, I ain't fighting in the other man's war. Hell no. You got that one correct. But I did not join no frat. Don't you dare say no like that. That's.

[Titus]

Yeah, these are three fratless fellas right here.

[Big T]

Yeah, gdis.

[Titus]

I. I despise that terminology for multiple reasons.

[Big T]

Goddamn independence. It's like what frack kids came up with to make it seem like if you didn't join a frat, you were weird.

[Titus]

Yes.

[Big T]

They, like, flipped in there. Yeah. No, listen. There's empirical evidence that there was a war that was happening that took place my. My senior year of high school, and I did not enlist. I'm a Quaker. It sounds like this guy has a problem. My religious beliefs. My religious beliefs are being a conscientious objector, that violence just begets more violence, and wars don't really accomplish anything except destroying the human spirit and from a spiritual place. It's not in my DNA to actively enlist in the military. That doesn't mean that I can't be fascinated by F22s and F35s.

[Aryan]

That's like my. I love Jiu Jitsu.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Those are my planes.

[Big T]

It's well within my rights to be interested in planes.

[Titus]

Do we think that guy was serious? I'm genuinely confused.

[Big T]

No, I think. I think he's a listener of the show. I think he's just doing. He's remembering the time when it was like the hater voicemail that. Where he could. Like.

[Titus]

Yeah, but he did say, like, he put some stank on it.

[Aryan]

He put some stank on it. And then at the end he said,

[Titus]

yeah, let me know.

[Aryan]

It was good.

[Big T]

I thought. I thought it was an interesting voicemail. I appreciate the. I appreciate the conversation, by the way. I know what syncom is. I didn't know what city was located in. Sorry.

[Titus]

Right.

[Aryan]

I kind of like it. We bring back the hater voicemails.

[Titus]

I kind of like that.

[Aryan]

What's the beat?

[Rianne Fran]

I choose to usually keep those.

[Big T]

I also Noticed that this guy, didn't he, like, he had a lot of stuff to say about my. My battle plans, but he didn't poke out any holes in them or point out where I was wrong.

[Aryan]

Fair enough.

[Big T]

I think that was a tacit admission that my battle plan was spot on.

[Titus]

I like what Josh Pate does on his show at the beginning of the season. You can say whatever you want about his predictions as long as you put out your own. Okay, you can say whatever you want about us as long as you also engage somehow with your own opinion.

[Big T]

Josh paid in a little bit of hot water for sitting down with the President.

[Titus]

Did you watch it?

[Big T]

It's just. Yeah, I did it. It's weird. It's a weird time. Can we agree on that?

[Titus]

It just doesn't. I don't understand what the point was because he. It was. First of all, it was like eight minutes.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

He said they were going to talk about college football, which was. Anyone. I totally understand having. If the President says he wants to come on your show, I will not begrudge anyone for having the president on their show. But then he said they were going to talk about college football and they didn't really.

[Big T]

We're going to talk about college football in mid February.

[Titus]

He was correct that. Well, Josh Pate does college football all year long.

[Big T]

I know, but it's weird time and

[Titus]

love his show, by the way. One of my favorites. I just didn't. It was. It was an odd interview because he was correct. They didn't really talk about politics either. Trump steered it there a couple times, but not really. You talked about Herschel Walker, so. Herschel Walker, what a great guy. Isn't he great? As they're sitting in Rome, Georgia, so everybody clap.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

He talked about how much he loved Gunner Stockton, who was there in the varsity. Good. Good spot, by the way. But, yeah, it was just. It was a weird interview, I thought.

[Big T]

I think it was like a. It was a midterm campaign stop for Trump.

[Titus]

Yeah. I mean, he was campaigning with Gunner Stockton. Herschel Walker in Georgia. Yeah.

[Big T]

Ambassador to the Bahamas. Herschel Walker.

[Titus]

Did you see that? Trump didn't know. He said, is it Bahamas?

[Big T]

Or.

[Titus]

What was the other country said? Barbados. I think he was like. It's one of those.

[Big T]

Yeah, we just gave him a job. Yeah, we gave old Hersh a job. You know, Herschel Walker was going to be a bobsledder.

[Titus]

No.

[Big T]

Yeah, I think it would have been a damn good bob.

[Aryan]

I think he picked that shit.

[Tom]

Yeah, he'd have killed that.

[Titus]

He killed football. Pretty well too, though.

[Aryan]

He did his thing.

[Big T]

Yeah. I think. Here's what I'll say about the Josh Pate Donald Trump experience. I would, I would have Donald Trump on macro dosing.

[Titus]

Agreed.

[Aryan]

Absolutely. Oh, what.

[Rianne Fran]

But isn't Josh Pate's whole thing that he's like, not political?

[Big T]

Well, he wasn't getting. He didn't get into politics with President Trump. It was a strictly apolitical interview with.

[Titus]

We're pro Josh Pate, just to be clear.

[Big T]

Yeah, I like Josh paid a lot.

[Aryan]

I don't know, just pay.

[Big T]

I like Josh paid a lot.

[Titus]

And he's a really good college football guy. He's. He's in the last year or two become very, very popular.

[Big T]

If you have the president on your show, it's. It's good for business.

[Titus]

Thousand percent.

[Big T]

No matter who the president is, it's good for business.

[Titus]

And he's an awesome story. Started out in like, very small time radio in Georgia and grew his own show to the point that it's very popular. He's awesome.

[Big T]

You know what, Cash, why don't you. Come on. Come on. Macrodos and Cash would love to talk to.

[Titus]

He's also a follower on Twitter, so I consider him a big T. BO believer of sorts. We've never spoken.

[Big T]

Oh, Josh Pate.

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Yeah, I'm sure that. I'm sure you and Pete have a lot in common.

[Titus]

We love college football.

[Big T]

You love college football and your t. I actually am talking about your college football takes and, and your limited tolerance for nonsense.

[Titus]

Yeah, I'd love to have Josh Pate on this show as well as Donald Trump. Either one. Maybe the one wants to come on Open invite.

[Big T]

Maybe we have. Maybe we have a debate. Maybe we have. Maybe we have Josh Pate and Keith Olbermann.

[Titus]

You want to talk about numbers? Yeah, I mean, that'd be incredible.

[Big T]

Yeah,

[Titus]

that would actually be so awesome.

[Big T]

Listen to do that. Keith Ultman is just, he's, he's trying to get some sort of attention wherever he can get it.

[Titus]

Agreed.

[Big T]

Anything at all to discuss with the John Davidson Tourette's episode.

[Titus]

I saw that. That happened. I didn't watch.

[Big T]

Yeah, the video. Yeah, it's pretty tough.

[Titus]

It's a tough sell.

[Big T]

Like you got a guy with Tourette's and he's saying all the words that you can't say. And is he being racist when he says them? If it's a pathological condition, yeah.

[Titus]

It's a weird spot.

[Aryan]

I would say no because I, I don't understand Tourette's, but, like, I know I know a few people with it, and there's, like, different conditions, so. And, like, if you have a tick, like, it's. It's uncontrollable.

[Big T]

You can't control it.

[Aryan]

And usually the ticks are, like, vulgar. That's. That's. That's it. It's like a neural pathway that, like, misfires, and you guys can't control this. You can't control it. So I. I think that's. If that is. I think it was probably weird in a moment. And if you don't know somebody has Tourette's, it's probably weird. But if you. If you further investigate and say, you know what I'm saying, and be like, yo, that's. This is what I did. Nah, that's nothing, Burger man.

[Big T]

Credit to Michael B. Jordan, though, for, like, handling it the way that he did. I. I would have completely understood if he had just, like, walked away or said something back or said something back or just, like, walked off the scene and be like this. I'm not. I'm not gonna sit up here.

[Titus]

The guy who did it, is he known? Like, is he an actor or.

[Big T]

He's known. He had a movie, I think that was in relation to his battle with Tourette's.

[Titus]

Okay.

[Big T]

Yeah. Pretty. Just a pretty weird situation, by the way.

[Titus]

I. Maybe I'm. I'm an idiot. You saw Paddington at that thing, right? So I assumed that that was cgi, like, on the stage. But then I also saw this video. Is he real?

[Rianne Fran]

They had. I. They had Paddington. Real Paddington.

[Aryan]

He.

[Titus]

He's real. Because I saw a video of him on, like, the red carpet, too.

[Rianne Fran]

I. I believe that is a real Paddington. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to assume. Yeah. I don't want to ruin the magic. I don't know.

[Titus]

Is it like a remote controlled thing? Is it. Is it a kid in there?

[Rianne Fran]

That. I don't know.

[Titus]

Yeah, I don't know. I need to know more about Paddington,

[Rianne Fran]

but I don't think it was an animated version. I believe it was a real Paddington.

[Titus]

It's what it seems to be. But I thought. I thought I was going crazy for a minute. I don't know. Good for him.

[Big T]

All right, how's everybody doing the snow in. In New York City right now? Everyone okay? That we know of.

[Aryan]

There's, like, a blizzard coming, huh?

[Titus]

Yeah.

[Big T]

They're getting, like, two feet of snow. Yeah, it might. Is it weird that I kind of wish I was there?

[Rianne Fran]

Oh, no, not at all.

[Big T]

I kind of wish I was there

[Titus]

for that we never really had in the time I lived there. Anything like that. There was one time it snowed maybe six inches.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Titus]

But never anything like this.

[Rianne Fran]

It's crazy. Like, only essential vehicles are allowed to drive. I saw that door dash was paused. Like, you couldn't order doordash.

[Titus]

Well, they closed the streets for, like, 12 hours.

[Rianne Fran]

Right. But it wasn't even, like. I mean, I don't know how, like, closing the streets in New York works, where it's like, can bikes. Like, obviously bikes can't get through in, like, a foot and a half of snow. But they were, like, doordash isn't accepting any orders. Yeah. No. The New York office, they have a snow day today that I'm. I am, like, that does kind of look fun.

[Big T]

I do. I. I kind of want just, like, an apocalyptic amount of snow. Not where I'm out having to travel anywhere. Like, where you just get. Everyone's just trapped. I would like for everybody to be trapped for, like, 30 hours.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

This looks way, way more like snow day fun.

[Big T]

Yeah.

[Rianne Fran]

Then the storm that happened. Whatever. It was like, a month ago in, like, Nashville and, like, D.C. that was, like, the ice, and it was ruining communities. This looks more innocent. This looks just like two feet of snow. Yeah, I believe.

[Big T]

Yeah. I would not. I want me to be, like, stranded in my own house for 30 hours. Everybody else to be, like, snowed in, where you all go through it together. I obviously understand that that would mean that, like, ambulances couldn't get around, which would be bad.

[Rianne Fran]

There are obvious drawbacks if you had

[Big T]

medical issues or what have you. I just kind of like the idea of a crazy amount of snow heading and shutting everything down just for the chaos of it. And also, it's fun to go outside in the, like, in, like, two feet of snow and just be like, damn, this is crazy.

[Rianne Fran]

I don't think snow days ever lose their spark, no matter what age you are.

[Big T]

It's a little magic.

[Rianne Fran]

Yeah. There was, like, already, as of last night or this morning, early this morning, like, 15 inches of snow in Central park. And then there's been another, you know, five or six or however many hours since then, like, going sledding in Central Park.

[Big T]

Yeah. No work just, like, looking out the window and be like, damn, it's still snowing.

[Rianne Fran]

Yeah.

[Big T]

Damn, look how hard it's snowing right now. Yeah, that's good shit.

[Rianne Fran]

Go to the bodega. Sure. The bodega is still open. Get some hot chocolate.

[Big T]

Yeah, that's some good shit, that.

[Rianne Fran]

Look, I. I obviously know there would be drawbacks. Like, bad things would probably be happening or are happening due to complete shutdown of everything. Yeah, but isn't it just kind of fun for a little bit?

[Big T]

It's awesome. Yeah, it's the best. Okay, well, we will see you guys on Thursday.

[Titus]

Goodbye.

[Big T]

Love you guys.