Knights Templar: Bankers, Crusaders, and Conspiracies | Nov 6, 2025

Summary

Knights Templar: Bankers, Crusaders, and Conspiracies

Macrodosing: Arian Foster & PFT Commenter | Barstool Sports
Episode Date: November 6, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Macrodosing features a wide-ranging, often irreverent, and always engaging conversation helmed by Arian Foster and PFT Commenter, joined by T Bob, Christian, Aryan, and Mackenzie. The main theme is a deep-dive into the history, myths, and lasting cultural impact of the Knights Templar, framed through a lens of conspiracy, finance, and pop culture. As is tradition, the crew also covers current events, tangents on sports, personal hygiene, crypto scams, AI ethics, and American streaming woes—with signature humor and banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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I. Knights Templar: History, Banking & Conspiracies

Origins & Role as Bankers

• The Knights Templar originated during the Crusades as a military order and quickly gained vast wealth and influence by pioneering early forms of banking. Crusaders could deposit money in Europe and withdraw it in Jerusalem via written notes, a precursor to modern checks.
• "When I think Knight Templar, I think of the first ever bankers in terms of the Crusades..." (69:53 – Christian)

Downfall & The Friday the 13th Connection

• Many European monarchs became indebted to the Templars, most famously King Philip IV of France.
• In 1307, unable to repay the massive debts, the French crown coordinated mass arrests and executions of the Templars. This event, which began on Friday, October 13th, is possibly the origin of Friday the 13th being considered unlucky.
• "It was October 13th is when they started to round them up... simultaneous raid on every Templar house... Friday the 13th." (70:56 – Arian Foster)

Legend & The Grand Master's Curse

• Grand Master Jacques de Molay, executed by burning, famously cursed the king and pope, both of whom died within a year, further fueling Templar conspiracy lore.
• "Meet me before God within a year, you cowards..." (72:47 – Arian Foster)

Templar Codes, Lifestyle, and Celibacy

• Membership required vows of celibacy—no sex, no kissing, not even their mothers. The Templars had strict codes for dress and grooming, even banning shoelaces as “pagan.”
• "If you were a Knight, you were not allowed to have sex. You were not allowed to kiss a woman, not even your mother." (75:30 – Arian Foster)

Modern Echoes and Pop Culture

• The Templar legacy persists in conspiracy theories, Freemason connections, treasure hunts, and as namesakes for criminal organizations like the Mexican Knights Templar cartel.
• "Someone in that group was a real history buff and realized, hey, you know what—they were kind of like a gang back then that terrorized all of Europe. That's what we want to do here in North America..." (83:03 – Arian Foster)

The Treasure & Holy Grail Myth

• It’s speculated some Templars escaped with hidden treasure, possibly including the Holy Grail and other relics. The show notes how the Grail legend evolved into a symbol for ultimate, mystical power sought through the ages.
• "A lot of people think that that treasure is still out there to this day…" (84:22 – Arian Foster)

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II. Tangents: Religion, Cannibalism, and The Grail

Holy Grail & Religious Lore

• The Grail is typically regarded as the chalice used at the Last Supper, said to grant eternal life. The conversation warps into the symbolism of communion and Catholic doctrine.
• "Traditionally, the Holy Grail is the cup that Jesus used at the Last Supper." (87:17 – T Bob)

Catholic Transubstantiation Explained

• The hosts debate whether Catholics literally believe wine and bread become Christ’s flesh and blood during communion, landing on transubstantiation as official dogma but noting most everyday Catholics don’t take it literally.
• "Transubstantiation is the Catholic dogma that during the Eucharist... the whole substance of bread and wine is changed into the substance of the body and blood of Christ..." (89:18 – T Bob)

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III. Connections to Modern Conspiracy, History & Pop Culture

Knights Templar as Symbols

• Discussion of their emblem as inspiration for secret societies, Freemasons, and their depiction in media—Indiana Jones, Da Vinci Code, etc.
• "They were kind of a secret society. They were like bankers, soldiers, adventurers…" (73:35 – Arian Foster)

The Templar Bloodline & Dan Brown Lore

• The hosts riff about the Dan Brown ‘Jesus bloodline’ theory, agreeing it’s more literary flair than historically accepted.
• "A theory that was put forward by Dan Brown. That is an unpopular theory. It's not widely accepted as being true." (90:01 – Arian Foster)

Comparisons to Other Military Orders

• The Templars never retreated in battle—an honor code compared to Game of Thrones‘ Unsullied and Viking/Norse honor culture.
• "They were not allowed to retreat ever. They were not allowed to surrender ever…" (98:15 – Arian Foster)
• "It kind of yearned for death in a way, which made them, ironically, harder to kill." (99:11 – Christian)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments w/ Timestamps

• "Meet me before God within a year, you cowards." — Jacques de Molay's legendary execution curse (72:47)
• "If you were a knight, you were not allowed to have sex. You were not allowed to kiss a woman, not even your mother." (75:30 – Arian Foster)
• "The porn really steers a lot of technological innovations." (16:21 – Arian Foster, on AI and the inevitability of erotic content shaping tech)
• "I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say three months back pay on all the subscriptions that we have that are now rendered useless." (115:45 – Arian Foster, venting about streaming service consumer rights)

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Current Events & Offbeat Segues

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A. Streaming Woes, College Football, and TV Unions

• Viewer Frustration: The gang shares universal frustration with streaming platform fragmentation (YouTube TV, ESPN, Disney+, etc.), recounting failed attempts to watch both football and Dancing with the Stars.
• "All I want...is one service where I can watch every sport...I don’t care what you charge for it. I just want... no carrier disputes, in perpetuity...and it just works." (104:04 – T Bob)
• Discussion veers into consumer rights, the possibility of a TV-watcher’s union, and the failure of corporate America to protect users.
• "That's where America's really lost the thread is consumer protections...Europe's a bit stronger...It is quite absurd how we have just laid out and spread our legs for our corporate overlords." (113:14 – Christian)

B. Crypto, AI, and OpenAI Morality

• AI Erotica Scandal: OpenAI’s struggle with users roleplaying erotic and illegal scenarios prompts ethical debate.
• "We decided AI-powered erotica would have to wait...but [the CEO] does not think that anything that Sam Altman has done is actually going to work..." (13:33 – Arian Foster)
• Frequent jokes about scammy meme coins and insider trading in crypto.
• "It's the most scammy financial marketplace that could possibly exist..." (38:50 – Christian)

C. Politics, Religion, and Social Trends

• Long, thoughtful discussion about NYC’s new mayor Zoran Mandami, his policies, populism, and the overlap between right- and left-wing populists.
• "He tried to do that and tried to actively court Trump supporters...I actually do believe that local government has probably a much bigger impact on your daily life..." (25:07 – Arian Foster)
• Musing on American fixation with bodies and modesty, sparked by Sydney Sweeney’s viral dress—segued into the forbidden fruit theory.
• "No, it’s because it’s forbidden fruit...it’s like because it’s covered up all the time." (81:29 – Arian Foster)

D. Classic Macrodosing Banter

• On hygiene: Extreme showering habits, “soap trickles down” debate, and phone-in-the-shower confessions (49:17+).
• On 90s nostalgia: JNCOs, wallet chains, and skateboarding failures.
  • "Sixth grade T Bob wanted more than anything in the world: frosted tips, a wallet chain, and JNCOs." (61:13 – T Bob)
• On music & culture: Pop punk/emo’s resurgence and Black musicians in alternative genres—shouts to Dwayne and Paradox (62:17+).

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Knights Templar History & Banking: 69:53 – 86:05
• Friday the 13th origin & Curse: 70:31 – 73:30
• Celibacy & Codes: 75:12 – 76:26
• Holy Grail Lore: 86:05 – 90:14
• Pop Culture (Dan Brown, Movies): 87:01 – 91:28
• Modern Templar Cartel: 83:03 – 84:22
• Streaming Frustrations: 103:20 – 116:45
• Crypto/A.I. Segment: 13:33 – 16:45
• Hygiene/Sports Water Breaks: 48:49 – 56:45
• NYC Politics & Populism: 17:00 – 31:10
• Sydney Sweeney & Modesty: 77:23 – 82:30

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Conclusion

This episode delivers a “macrodose” of Knights Templar lore—blending medieval banking, iconic conspiracy fodder, and the outsize legacy of an order that shaped European history and modern myth. Colored by the hosts’ signature wit, personal stories, and social commentary, the episode ties the arcane with the contemporary, offering an accessible, hilarious, and thought-provoking listen for history buffs, sports fans, and conspiracy lovers alike. The tangents are as delightful as the main course, making this a classic installment in the Macrodosing canon.

Transcript

[Arian Foster]

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[T Bob]

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[Arian Foster]

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[Christian]

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[T Bob]

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[Christian]

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[Arian Foster]

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[Christian]

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[Arian Foster]

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[T Bob]

It houses the Nazi high command.

[Arian Foster]

I'm gonna put Hermann Goering on trial.

[Christian]

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[T Bob]

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[Christian]

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[Aryan]

So you gotta mullet, too?

[Arian Foster]

I gotta.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Mullet.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

I like how you said that. Gross. Oh, come on, man.

[Aryan]

No.

[Arian Foster]

Come on, dude. Everyone. Everyone, wait.

[Christian]

It doesn't get the seal of approval.

[Aryan]

Aryan mullets are horrible.

[Arian Foster]

G. I disagree.

[Aryan]

It screams confederacy.

[Arian Foster]

It just screams no. It could also be it just.

[Aryan]

The wind hits it and it goes States rights in the back.

[Arian Foster]

Welcome back to Macrodosing. It is Thursday is November 6th, and today's episode is being brought to you by our great friends over at game time. It's college football season. It's in full swing. We got cheering crowds, tailgates, the excitement of being in the stands before kickoff. That's all going on right now. The best time of the year ever. Find yourself at a tailgate and you decide to grab those tickets at the last minute. That's where game time comes in. The app gives the advantage back to fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in just a few taps. Plus, the fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. And they have a game time guarantee. You get 100% authentic tickets on time at the best price. Big T, what are we looking at for this week?

[T Bob]

I was actually looking last night because Tennessee doesn't play this week and I still don't have ESPN through YouTube TV, so I was. There's a great game about three hours from here. Number nine, Oregon, at number 20, Iowa.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

And I think I was going to win.

[Christian]

Really? Yeah.

[T Bob]

$154 on game time to that top 20 matchup. Damn. That could propel Iowa maybe into the. The playoff conversation.

[Arian Foster]

It could in Iowa. I feel like they've been coming on strong. Great place to watch college football game.

[T Bob]

Yeah. You said you loved it. I've never Been over there.

[Arian Foster]

It's a beautiful, beautiful city. I want to go back.

[Christian]

I might.

[Arian Foster]

Maybe I'll make a trip back.

[T Bob]

200 miles on the dot.

[Arian Foster]

Why don't I just pack up and just drive to Iowa City? Make a weekend out of it.

[T Bob]

I might go hop in the car.

[Arian Foster]

We, we might do that. That sounds like a lot of fun actually.

[T Bob]

What?

[Arian Foster]

I'm gonna, I'm gonna go home on Friday. I'm gonna sleep and then I'm gonna be. I'm just being honest.

[T Bob]

Up.

[Arian Foster]

I felt like I was there for.

[T Bob]

Let's go Saturday morning. It's three hours.

[Christian]

It's nice to think about.

[Arian Foster]

But then I can't watch all the other games.

[T Bob]

We'll leave at 7. We'll be there by 10. We'll allot 15 minutes for a stop at Casey's. So we'll be there at 10. 15. Few hours of tailgating. The game's at 2:30.

[Arian Foster]

What about the world's biggest truck stop?

[Mackenzie]

I was gonna say Big T would probably love.

[T Bob]

There's the world's biggest truck stop.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

Actually it's bigger than Buc EE's.

[Arian Foster]

It is like. I don't even know how to describe it. It's like a ball. Like a full mall inside.

[Christian]

Too big.

[Arian Foster]

It's a little bit overwhelming. Yeah, but, but I walked in and I thought Mad Dog would absolutely go bonkers over this place.

[Mackenzie]

I would. And I, I, I hear about it all the time and I want it bad. I thought the same thing.

[T Bob]

So are there separate retailers within this place?

[Arian Foster]

Yes, multiple. Multiple levels.

[T Bob]

Wow.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. And they have a full size truck inside too. You might be able to buy a truck at this truck stop. It's pretty incredible.

[T Bob]

How, how far into the trip is this?

[Arian Foster]

I want to say it's about halfway.

[Christian]

So in trying to match my definition of a mall. Does it have a quick service Chinese restaurant?

[Arian Foster]

I'm trying to think. It does have a food court. And in that food court I know for a fact it has a Taco Bell. It has a Dairy Queen, Orange Julius.

[Christian]

It's got, I mean there's definitely a panda.

[T Bob]

So I can tell you there has to be. There's the Iowa 80 kitchen, Wendy's, Caribou coffee and Einstein Brothers bagels. Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, Dairy Queen and Blimpy. I didn't know Blimpy was still around.

[Christian]

That's a shocking upset. Yeah, true on Blimpy, but I just, I mean it's like they have all the elements. They have all the infinity stones. Except for quick service Chinese I feel.

[Arian Foster]

Like if you're going to do a Mad Libs of the worst place to get Chinese food, it would be a truck stop in rural Iowa. I think that's probably. If you go. If you eat the Chinese food at a truck stop in rural Iowa and then you have diarrhea later, you're not allowed to be upset.

[Christian]

No, it's your fault.

[Arian Foster]

Yes.

[Christian]

But I do, I've always could not.

[Arian Foster]

Have been more obvious what was going to happen.

[Christian]

I do find that Chinese food can operate on an inverse scale where the cheaper it is, not the more quality but the more satisfying I find it. Yeah, just load me down with a bunch of shitty cheap sesame chicken and fucking lo mein. Or fried rice. Doesn't matter.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, all the MSG.

[Christian]

Yes, exactly.

[T Bob]

I'm seeing that the Iowa 80 kitchens are.

[Arian Foster]

Have bad looking buffet okay there, huh? Yeah, they got, I mean, just a overwhelming selection of things that you can purchase there. It's pretty.

[T Bob]

Those are my favorite kind of stores.

[Arian Foster]

It's pretty incredible. I think you, you'd really enjoy it. I. I will mentally be taking a trip to Iowa City this weekend.

[T Bob]

I might just go solo to the truck stop to. Well, I may as well just keep going at that point.

[Christian]

Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

[Arian Foster]

It's going to be great weekend college football.

[Christian]

Everybody's very high flavor. I like, like flavor of the week takes when it comes to teams and right now the flavor of the week take is Oregon is maybe not as good as we all crown them to be. And Iowa's way better than we thought. I was not in the AP. They show up at 20 in the CFP playoff poll last night. So we'll see. We'll see. I so many people are saying it, I'm kind of starting to fade it a little bit. But we're going to find out.

[Arian Foster]

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[Christian]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Don't get me wrong. I, I thought when I Saw that Iowa was not in the top 25. I was like, well, that's a bunch of. And then now they're 20. I think they're a very good team. And when I'm looking at Oregon, who's Oregon's best win?

[Christian]

Well, it was.

[Arian Foster]

It was.

[T Bob]

It's still. Penn State is not the team that they are right now.

[Christian]

When they played there, they still went on the road in a wide out and one. I'm with ut. That's something that we do too much in college football that I hate is belief matters. Form matters. And at that time, Penn State still thought they were national champs. Now they cratered. But like playing Penn State today, I'm with. T is way different than what Oregon had to play on the road. Wide out at night, completely different team.

[Arian Foster]

I agree with that. That's a. That's a very fair take their coach.

[Christian]

Who did I will lose to early on that we all bailed Iowa State.

[Arian Foster]

And they lost to the clones.

[Christian]

Because we all got off the bandwagon. Gronowski was really struggling. The transfer quarterback from one of the championships, Indiana.

[T Bob]

But it was like 15.

[Christian]

Oh, it was close. Yeah.

[T Bob]

15.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

Final score.

[Christian]

So that's why everybody's now back on Iowa is because like, oh, fuck, dude. I mean, Indiana's beating the shit out of everyone, and they barely came out of Kenneth with a win. Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

But they did lose to. Or they won to Penn State by one.

[Christian]

Maybe you could say by one.

[Mackenzie]

Post.

[Arian Foster]

Was that pre Penn State or this is pre Penn State being bad?

[Mackenzie]

No, it's post.

[Christian]

No, they were one of the teams that made Penn State bad.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

Yeah. That's October 18th.

[Christian]

Yep. Okay. Yeah, I forgot Mad Dogs, our resident top 25 poll expert, she. She knows more about the top 25 than I do.

[Arian Foster]

That's true.

[Mackenzie]

I know a lot of all.

[Arian Foster]

One thing I noticed in the College Football Playoff that they released last night, zero group of five teams in the top 25.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

So it's. It's kind of a mystery as to which way they're leaning. They haven't showed any of their cards when it comes to that.

[Christian]

Well, they did put. They did put Memphis in the bracket when they did the bracket. Is that right, T?

[Arian Foster]

I didn't see.

[Christian]

They didn't. They put Memphis in the bracket at 12. But a lot of people are saying, and I think rightfully so, the American very well could likely cannibalize itself. Meaning your dookies. Pft. So hot. We're having on. We're having on Cheney tomorrow.

[Arian Foster]

Chesney.

[Christian]

Chesney.

[Arian Foster]

Chesney.

[T Bob]

Yeah, sorry I got out now.

[Christian]

Yeah, I got dick on the mine.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. Bob, Bob Chesney is going to be on Wake Up Barstool this morning as you're listening to this. Oh yeah. But yeah, I did not see the, the bracket that they put out, so. Okay, that's, that's interesting for, for me to know that right now they've got Memphis slotted in there, but yeah, the American's just too good. That's the thing. They've got what, four teams that are pretty, pretty worthy of being in the conversation. And on this show on Tuesday, I did my, my mental analysis of where I thought JMU was. I had him at what, 25%.

[T Bob]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

I saw via ESPN's FPI their Football Power Index. It's JMU at about 27%. Oh. So if anything I was, I was underselling it with my mental. I just, I did based on vibes.

[T Bob]

I'm gonna do the Allstate.

[Christian]

Pretty accurate predictor.

[Arian Foster]

Okay. Thank you for including the, the sponsor.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

They are at 28%. So let's say JMU climbing wins out obviously.

[Arian Foster]

Yep.

[T Bob]

They have to win the conference championship. Yeah. There's no other variables I can put in here. But if, if all that happens, they have them at a 64% chance.

[Arian Foster]

Okay. I love that. And I've got, I mean that is a big if too.

[T Bob]

But it all comes down to what happens in the American. Because if, if Memphis, Memphis finishes the wins the rest of their games they're in. If USF wins the rest of their games, they're probably in with that win over Florida.

[Christian]

There's. Yeah. Like does a two loss American champion.

[T Bob]

What. Depends who. I think it would have to be usf.

[Christian]

But like let's say this is not going to happen because I don't think they're good enough. But like Tulane does play Memphis on Friday. If Tulane were to win out, that would be interesting because they have power. Four wins over. They lost Ole Miss, but they beat Duke who's really gotten better and they beat Kansas State. Was that.

[T Bob]

No, no sounds.

[Christian]

They played it.

[T Bob]

They played them Ole Miss. Anyway. It's going to come down to the American champ and probably James Madison.

[Arian Foster]

It's a big if for JMU to go undefeated from, from here on out too. They've got a coup said. I really have no idea what to make of them.

[T Bob]

A frisky Washington State team which I had no idea they played until I just did this thing right here.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, that's the one that I'm looking at. I have no idea what that Washington State team is going to look like because their, their schedule is just. It is the most insane thing in an insane sport in college football. They're playing every team all across the country. They play Oregon State twice this year. They should do that based on aggregate on.

[T Bob]

I didn't even know you could do that.

[Arian Foster]

I didn't either. It's. They just needed to play each other twice I guess because they're the, the two pack.

[T Bob]

The.

[Arian Foster]

The pack 12 and they played Ole Miss. They played, I think UVA.

[T Bob]

Yep.

[Arian Foster]

They're just, they're just barnstorming across the country.

[T Bob]

So I mean they're essentially an independent.

[Arian Foster]

Shout out to the Cougars.

[Christian]

The. Did you. I know nothing about this guy. I don't even know his name. But did you see the interview of the Oregon State head coach? Did you see how he sounds?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, like a little. It's got some Coach O in them.

[Christian]

It's very Ogeron. Just not Cajun Coach Oregon, but yeah, Coach Organ. It's actually insane how. How similar their voices sound. I was blown away, but I'm sorry, I can't even name his name.

[T Bob]

I don't know.

[Arian Foster]

He's the Internet. All good. It's a, it's a fun time of year to be a sports fan. We can all agree on that. On macrodosing today we got. That's T Bob. You recognize his voice? He's sitting in for a little bit. Arian's gonna be joining in a little bit. I just want to shoot the right off the bat. I, I did see an article that we can get into now or later and this, I think it came out two weeks ago, but I just read it, it was in the New York Times and it's about the former head of safety for OpenAI. Did you guys see this story at all?

[T Bob]

No.

[Arian Foster]

So We've talked about OpenAI a lot and it was the head of their product safety department. His name is Stephen Adler and he said, I've read more smut at work than you can possibly imagine. All of it. While working@Open AI back in the spring of 2021, I led our product safety team and discovered a crisis related to erotic content. One prominent customer was a text based adventure role playing game that used our AI to draft interactive stories based on players choices. These stories became a hotbed of sexual fantasies, including encounters involving children and violent abductions, often initiated by the user, but sometimes steered by the AI itself. After months of grappling with where to draw the Line on user freedom. We ultimately prohibited our models from being used for erotic purposes. It's not that erotic is bad per se, but that there were clear warning signs of users intense emotional attachment to the AI chatbots, especially for users who seem to be struggling with mental health problems. Nobody wanted to be the morality police, but we lacked ways to measure and manage this carefully. We decided AI powered erotica would have to wait. And OpenAI now says the wait is over. Despite the serious mental health issues plaguing users of its Chat GPT product in recent months. On October 14, its chief executive Sam Altman announced that the company had been able to mitigate these issues thanks to new tools enabled enabling it to lift restrictions on erotic content. But this guy said that based on his working there for four years, he does not think that anything that Sam Altman has done is actually going to work. And that Sam probably doesn't think that's going to work either. So this is just like just another brick in the wall of how. How the people that are leading the. The artificial intelligence development in this country do not have your best interest at heart.

[Christian]

No.

[Arian Foster]

And it's. This is one thing where it could get. It could get really messy.

[Christian]

I mean, this is now. Okay, for a little bit here. I want to ignore the pedophilia and sexual violence portion of that.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. Like those type of fantasies, like normal.

[Christian]

Yeah. Just like AI erotica. That is maybe the most inevitable thing that I've ever considered in my entire life.

[Arian Foster]

I agree.

[Christian]

Like that we didn't see this coming. There is there. We didn't see the coming.

[T Bob]

Coming.

[Christian]

Yeah, no, there is a. There's no holding that back.

[Arian Foster]

No.

[Christian]

And it's going to. It's going to. I mean, if it's anything like the Internet, if it's going to be a reflection of the Internet, which in a lot of ways the Internet's a reflection of our own interests. And AI is that even more so a lot of AI, the majority may end up just be an erotic play in. In the. In the future.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, I think that it's going to be inevitable no matter what. I mean, that's. The porn really steers a lot of technological innovations.

[Christian]

That's like. I feel like I learned that in like Silicon Valley back in the day.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

The old TV show where they mentioned something like a lot of the streaming technology and everything and like advancements of video streaming all kind of came rooted out of people wanting to be able to stream porn.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, it's true. So just something to look into. Maybe some reading you guys can. Can dip into out there if you're interested in that sort of thing. Big T on your news sheet of the day. Do we. Do you want to start with Zoran?

[T Bob]

You can start wherever you'd like.

[Arian Foster]

Momdani. That was the first one that you had on the list today.

[T Bob]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Zoran Mandami is one the. The mayorship of New York City, which, by the way, I think that's a terrible job. I think that's an awful job to have.

[Christian]

It's impossible to probably. There's too many people. You can't. They're never going to be happy with you.

[Arian Foster]

No matter what. You're. You're going to have like 60 to 70% of people hate you.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Afterwards. And there's a reason why you've never seen anybody that was the mayor of New York at least recently go on to bigger and better things in politics afterwards.

[Aryan]

They.

[Arian Foster]

You. You're going to walk out of there more beaten and bloody than you were before. It's not like a stepping stone job, even though it seems like it could be based on how prominent and high profile it is.

[Christian]

But what if you run into the prodigy, like somebody who somehow navigates it and gets the approval rating? Then that person becomes uber powerful. Like they go over the top. I don't. I don't know. I don't think it's going to be this. He's probably a bit too extreme for that.

[Arian Foster]

I don't know.

[Christian]

We'll see. But that's. That's very interesting to think about.

[Arian Foster]

I think his problem is going to be that he is anything that he tries to accomplish there. There are so many people that are going to fight him tooth and nail every step of the way. I just don't think he's going to be able to deliver on a lot of the stuff that he says he's going to provide. So that's. It seems like he's. We'll see. We'll see what happens. Just like when Trump got elected. It's like this is. If, if good things happen, if he makes good stuff happen, then that's going to be. I'm not going to like, hate on him for any of that.

[Christian]

No.

[Arian Foster]

And some of the stuff, like, I don't mind the free buses.

[T Bob]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

I give people free buses. That's cool.

[Christian]

Free child care would be fucking free child. Right.

[Arian Foster]

Like, if you had pitched a lot of the stuff that we have right now back. Like some of the stuff that we have right now that was. That was put into place like 100200 years ago, if you were to pitch that out of nowhere right now, people be like, why are we, why are we given free school, like free education? So I have to pay for everybody else's stupid ass kids to have daycare all day and to go in and to learn something, to get brainwashed. You're not taking that out my, my paycheck. Like there's a lot of stuff that you can say is like commonly accepted and things that have been beneficial that if you were to pitch them fresh right now, we'd be like that.

[Christian]

Yeah, I mean it's, it's a tough thing because New York has more millionaires than any city in the entire world, I think. Right. I would assume, I feel like there was a ch, there was a drop a pin question about this and, and I can't remember the exact number, but I was shocked. And so, I mean, anytime you have that many rich people and then what is it going to be? Like 52% taxes on them or whatever? I don't know. I feel like when you go to battle with rich people in the realm of politics, you're always destined to lose.

[Arian Foster]

I think that I need to dive more into his actual like city tax breakdown. But I, from what I know about the guy, he seems like he is planning on taxing the like 1% of the 1% at a much higher rate. Which, I mean, and if you're like, if you're a mill, if you make a million dollars a year in New York, you're living very comfortably, but you are not scratching the surface of the wealthy in that city.

[Christian]

That's fair.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. So I think he's, he's planning on going for like the 100 million and above bracket at a much more aggressive rate than anybody else.

[Mackenzie]

Thank God you got out of there in time. Pft.

[Arian Foster]

I do not have $100 million.

[Christian]

Yet. Big T, what do you think about the mayorship? Don't mess with the Sauron.

[T Bob]

I don't, I don't live there. So I am concerned with some shifts in the electorate as a whole. I am deeply confused by the left's embrace of Islam, which is pretty directly antithetical to most of its purported views. But listen, I hope he does great.

[Arian Foster]

I think he is embracing, he's not saying like, we're not doing Sharia law in New York City.

[T Bob]

Did I say that?

[Arian Foster]

You said like embracing Islam.

[T Bob]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

As the mayor, I think the left.

[T Bob]

Recently has been very, you know, the, the queers for Palestine movements, things like that, which when you look into what Muslims believe is not really jiving with.

[Arian Foster]

That's like a hundred people.

[T Bob]

What do you mean?

[Arian Foster]

In the queers for Palestine.

[T Bob]

Okay, but you would agree that the left generally has embraced Islam in the last 10 years.

[Christian]

I mean but genocide's pretty bad.

[T Bob]

That's a separate thing.

[Arian Foster]

I would agree with that from T. Bob. I think that he is a Muslim mayor of New York City and some people are like, well, are we forgetting 9, 11. And if you know Muslim people, they're not like terrorists, they're not anti America.

[T Bob]

That's a separate issue. But there are. Islam is a pretty regressive religion. Would you disagree with that?

[Christian]

Islam if you're like, it's like any fund. If you're like a fundamentalist.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, it is.

[T Bob]

So if you follow what.

[Christian]

Look, there's a lot of fundamentalist Christians that are very regressive, close minded.

[Arian Foster]

I don't think, I don't think his religion, at least from what I've seen from what he's talked about, I don't think that his religion is going to have much of or any bearing at all on like how he's going to govern, how he's really. Yeah, I don't think so.

[T Bob]

Interesting. I don't, I don't, I don't agree with that.

[Christian]

Isn't it, isn't it just economic too as well? What do you mean in terms of the embrace, like for him? No, in terms of the left just because they want socialists more like they want free buses and they want free. I mean shit, we were talking about Huey P. Long before the show. That's how he was a populist. That's how gained all of his support was. His sayings were like every man a king, a radio in every home, a chicken in every pot. School books for children brought roads to rural Louisiana. Now he would grift every single place along the way that he could. But like these are tried and true populist messages.

[T Bob]

That's actually the other thing is it's very interesting to me. He seems like a, the opposite side of the same coin as Trump in that he's a populist with these very, very effective on social media, very charismatic, going against the machine establishment.

[Christian]

Yep.

[T Bob]

Populism and like all these ideas and the same people who hate Trump for many different reasons. But his, his agenda, they're like these, these are legislative practices that will never work. Whatever. This is the opposite side of the same coin.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, I think he did a, he did a very good job of actively reaching out to Trump voters in New York City. And people always say, oh, New York City, Los Angeles, California, these are, these are liberals. These, you know, these big cities, like California is a state. Oh, that's a lib state. There's a shitload of Trump voters that live in New York City. There's a lot of them. If you look up like compared to other cities in the country, just by the numbers. There is a load of Trump voters and supporters that live not only Manhattan, but also like Queens and, and Brooklyn. So it's not like a monolith. And he did a very proactive job of talking to Trump voters and saying, what do you want to improve in New York City? Why would you, what reason could I give you to support me? And he took some of their ideas in terms of what they wanted at home. And I actually do believe that like local government has probably a much bigger impact on your day to day life.

[T Bob]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Than national government does. So he tried to do that and tried to actively court Trump supporters. Again, I don't know how much of the stuff that he says that he is going to be able to deliver on will, will actually work given how massive the bureaucracy is in New York City. And there are a lot of people that work in and around the city government that are not going to want to support him. So he's got, he's got tough road ahead of him. But if he's able to give. I guess the one other question that a lot of people have had about him is just like public safety, public safety. And if you look by the numbers, New York is not what it was in like the 80s in terms of like how dangerous it is. There are some bad parts in New York. There are some parts that you definitely don't feel safe. And I know that the, the police are not feeling supported at all by Mamdani. And so I don't know how that, how his policies when it comes to criminal justice are going to shake out in the real world. That, that's going to be kind of a roll of the dice, I think.

[Christian]

We had a Democratic governor in Louisiana recently, John Bel Edwards, who I thought was pretty solid. He won the election a lot in part because the right put up just like God awful candidates. Like I think it was like bitter and stuff. But also he, he was a huge police supporter. Like I think that's actually a pretty shrewd move from anybody on the left is to maybe ignore your base in that regard a little bit and try to get them on your side.

[T Bob]

Well, I think he said he's planning on keeping the current police chief.

[Arian Foster]

Okay.

[T Bob]

Which was kind of an olive branch after all of his policing comments came out.

[Arian Foster]

I do think that would probably be a smart move. It's also just. It's so funny to watch Eric Adams on the way out, being like, I left you guys a great city. Don't it up like, Eric Adams taking a victory lap right now. Eric Adams, he's such a clown, and he's always been a clown. And then Cuomo being, like, his big opposition, that was, like, the worst candidate that they could have run against him. Like, zero moral high ground.

[Christian]

It's amazing. It's amazing the candidates that the machine puts forward. At times.

[Arian Foster]

I love Sliwa, though. I think. I think Slee would be a cool guy to have a beer with. I don't know if he drinks. Wouldn't want to go over to his apartment with all the cats. But he's a guy that very obviously loves New York and, like, cares deeply about it.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

And he would have been a better choice than Cuomo.

[T Bob]

He was the only one that called to congratulate Zo Ron.

[Arian Foster]

Was he?

[Christian]

Chill, dude.

[Arian Foster]

I mean, I was gonna say that's disappointing from Cuomo, but I don't really care about Adams. I don't really care about congratulatory phone calls.

[T Bob]

I think it can possibly speak to other elements of your character.

[Arian Foster]

That is true. Yes. That is true. Cuomo not calling. It doesn't really give me any new data points.

[Christian]

That's what I'm saying. Where were your expectations anyway, though? Big T, you mentioned being two sides of the same coin in terms of not ideal ideology, but maybe practices, and there's never been. So. One of my favorite biographies I ever read was FDRs. I think it's just called FDR. I can't remember exactly, but I was stunned at how FDR and Trump were essentially the same person in terms of, like, political practices, like pragmatism, like, how they would get their goals done, like stacking the Supreme Court. If, you know, if you support him, you were. You were in. If you went against him, you were ruthlessly fucking cut down. So it's interesting to see when you have guys that are, like, ideologically, completely on opposite ends of the spectrum, but both super effective because of how they handle things politically.

[T Bob]

I mean, I said this about. We've talked about on the show a bunch. If Trump ran against Bernie Sanders In 2016, Bernie Sanders would have killed him.

[Christian]

I think so, too.

[T Bob]

Millions of people who voted for Trump would have voted for Bernie.

[Christian]

Yes.

[T Bob]

Because they. They communicate Effectively a remarkably similar message. And people don't know. People don't even know what candidates policies are.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, Bernie. Bernie was very clear on what his policies were. You knew exactly where you stood. If he was against you, he would publicly be like, yeah, I don't like this person. And I think people respected the idea of a candidate who's at least been consistent on his messaging for, what, like, 40 years? And that's where I learned about service.

[Christian]

That's where I learned about super delegates.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

The Democrats just completely said democracy and just made the super delegates all the prayer so Bernie couldn't win.

[Arian Foster]

Yep. And now instead of. Instead of doing any sort of primary or anything like that, Kamala was the nominee. And then yesterday we saw Kamala. Listen, I. Big T. I know that you're big on congratulatory messages that you send out after a tough electoral defeat. What do you think about when a political opponent passes away?

[T Bob]

In terms of what, like sending out a public message?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

I mean, if you're in one of those positions, I. I suppose it's kind of customary to do. I don't. I don't begrudge anyone who does or doesn't. Unless you say something like. Like, if you're like that person. Rest in piss, whatever. Like, you're kind of an.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, I would agree with that.

[T Bob]

But if you don't like. I don't. I don't care if someone does or doesn't do that.

[Arian Foster]

She took the opposite route. She said, I am saddened to learn of the passing of former Vice President Dick Cheney. Vice President Cheney was a devoted public servant from the halls of Congress to many positions of leadership in multiple presidential administrations. His passing marks the loss of a figure who, with a strong sense of dedication, gave so much of his life to the country he loved. Doug and I are keeping Len, their daughters, Liz and Mary, and the entire Cheney family in our thoughts during this difficult time.

[Christian]

I mean, that's. That's, like. To me, that's. That's what I think. I. I don't appreciate all the time about D.C. and politics in general is like, at the end of the day, these people are peers.

[Arian Foster]

That's.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

It makes me think, like, they're friends.

[Christian]

Yeah. And you think about your peer and, you know, D.C. i would imagine very well. So, like, you could probably speak to this, but. Yeah, they're like. These people go to the same bars and they're. And they're getting drinks and. And, you know, chopping it up behind the scenes, hanging out because. Because they're because think about any business that you're in, even if you're maybe at odds using air quotes with someone, like, you still have an appreciation because you all can relate on what the job is.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

And so that's what that comment kind of.

[Arian Foster]

You kind of get, like, you got to go along to get along a little bit. Yeah. So I'm with the mindset. To paraphrase the. The great Twitter account drill, under no circumstances do you have to hand it to Dick Cheney. Like, I'm. He was a thoughtful leader, a dedicated public servant. Like, 2 million people died because of this guy.

[T Bob]

Do you think this was part of the agreement to get his endorsement?

[Arian Foster]

That when you die. Yeah, I'll tweet.

[Christian]

I'll tweet about you?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. He'd probably take that deal. I don't. I. Maybe I just think that, like, come on, Dick Cheney gotta give it to him. We've reached the point where we're sucking off Dick Cheney.

[Christian]

I think, I think death is one of those things, though, man. We all fear it so much that anytime somebody passes on, it's like, I don't know, you always get remembered positively. Very rare is a person that gets rest and piss on the way.

[T Bob]

And I don't think she. She doesn't mean it. It's just like a thing they do.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. Well, she might be thinking, like, what about when I die, I hope people say nice things about me, even my political opponents. I hope Donald Trump tweets something out nice if I die before him. That's what she's thinking.

[T Bob]

When cool creamy ranch meets tangy bold buffalo, the hole is greater than the sum of its sauce. Say howdy, partner.

[Christian]

To new buffalo ranch sauce only at.

[T Bob]

McDonald's for a limited time. A participating McDonald's.

[Arian Foster]

But yeah, Dick Cheney. Maybe the 2 million is too high. I forget what the exact figure is. I know it was over a million because he had a hard on for invading Iraq. And I, I guess Big T. I don't. I don't know if you were old. You weren't old enough to. To remember the run up to that war. But like, he just, he. He just completely said, hey, I'm. I still don't like the fact that Bush did. I think Bush is a piece of too, but Bush at least had the excuse of, this guy tried to kill my dad. And so that goes a long way when you're like, why do you want to invade this country? He tried to kill my dad.

[Christian]

True.

[Arian Foster]

I understand that beef. Dick Cheney was just like, we're gonna make so much.

[Christian]

We're gonna make so many military industrial.

[Arian Foster]

Complex, baby, we're gonna make. Where you're gonna be rich beyond your wildest dreams if we invade this country.

[Mackenzie]

Can I ask a question?

[Arian Foster]

Yep.

[Mackenzie]

About that. He was vice president at the time.

[Christian]

Yep.

[Mackenzie]

So I'm, I don't know if it's the same rules. It's like when you're president and the out your outside businesses making money and everything. How was he making so much money on the Iraq war?

[Arian Foster]

All right, so stocks or something. So he, he was the CEO of Halliburton.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

And that is a defense contractor.

[Mackenzie]

Is that like Palantir?

[Arian Foster]

No. Well, they're both contractors, but Halliburton, they provided like services like transportation services, housing services. They did a lot of like the, the truck driving over there, hauling the building the rebuilding of Iraq after it was invaded.

[Mackenzie]

Okay.

[Arian Foster]

And so they were a defense contractor and the Department of Defense, they said let's give out some no bid contracts. So we're not even going to put it up for. For dispute. Gave away a bunch of these services to people that were very friendly with them politically. Then those companies made a lot of money. I don't know what the exact terms of Dick Cheney's investments were or.

[Mackenzie]

So did he get it through like.

[Arian Foster]

Just shareholding any points that he had? I, I don't know exactly where he stood with all those, but he was a, he was a big player when it came to being, you know, he was very high up and very well connected with a lot of those companies. And when he was, he was actually, I think he was, he the. Actually I want to look this up. I want to make sure he was, he was CEO of Halliburton. Let's see.

[Mackenzie]

Because I know, I love the movie Vice randomly enough. The Dick Cheney movie.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

And I know in that like from that movie when George Bush asked him to be vice president, he was like, well, it's a symbolic job and I have a really good job. Like why would I leave it? Like you would have to make this job mean something.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. He was super powerful. He was maybe the most powerful vice president that we've ever.

[Christian]

That's what I was going to ask. I don't know enough about presidential history, but was he?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

Do you think?

[Arian Foster]

Yes, Dick Cheney absolutely was. He was calling a lot of the shots. He was, he was instrumental. I think on 9, 11. I think on that day he went to the national security advisors and said, this is Saddam Hussein. Find a link with Saddam Hussein.

[Aryan]

He want.

[Arian Foster]

On day one, he want to do that. So he was CEO. Yes, of Halliburton from 1995 until two. Until like, he was. He accepted the nomination also.

[Christian]

So back then, you used to have to still stop. You. You still. Technically. I mean, he didn't really stop. He found ways around it. But you at least publicly back then. Yeah, we used to still believe that you couldn't be. You couldn't hold that title and political office.

[Arian Foster]

Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm.

[Christian]

I know that's. That's the best.

[Arian Foster]

He had a peanut farm. He got elected president. He was like, I can't have anybody think that I'm. I'm secondhand dealing. I got to sell the peanut farm. It's going to break my heart to do it, but look at us.

[Christian]

But we're gonna put a Trump tower on Gaza Strip.

[Arian Foster]

It must be done.

[Christian]

It's gonna be beautiful.

[Arian Foster]

I'm trying to figure out, I'm trying to learn more about the whole Binance situation and the stablecoin and I just, I don't have a deep enough knowledge base to truly understand what's going on with the stable coins.

[Christian]

You ever watch Coffeezilla?

[Arian Foster]

Sometimes, yeah.

[Christian]

I love Coffeezilla. His other channel, Voidzilla is very good for keeping up with all crypto scams and whatnot.

[Arian Foster]

My problem is I need it to be dumbed down even further than that because I've tried to watch some of them and then I get lost in the minutiae of how, how the crypto trading platforms work.

[Christian]

Did you never get sucked into the allure of this is going to make you so rich? I went, I went through a. Through a crypto phase.

[Arian Foster]

I did purchase Dogecoin at one point and I made some money off that. That was kind of nice. But I had no idea what was going on with it whatsoever. It was just like number go up.

[Christian]

I mean, you know, there's like, we live in a day and age speaking of the peanut farm, where like the president had Trump coin. And the craziest thing about that is they never even had to sell so they could avoid kind of rug pulling accusations because I don't know the exact. I don't know the exact dynamics at play, but they were in control of. So on every trade there's like a charge and they were in control of the company that took that little bit of the charge on the trade. So they made. They made millions. Yes. On trading fees. Millions and millions. And never had to sell their coin, which seemed. How the fuck does the president have a fucking meme coin and and the.

[Arian Foster]

First lady, I think, technically it might be his sons that run it.

[Christian]

Yeah. They're. They're all about crypto.

[Arian Foster]

I did see that interview. He's like, yeah, this is really my son's business. They know all about. They're very enthusiastic about the crypto, and they're where we want to be number one in the world in crypto.

[Christian]

I. It's just. It's. It's. It's. It's the most scammy financial marketplace that could possibly exist.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

Because there's no real regulations, and it is solely there to transfer money from poor people to people with inside information.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

Like, it's insane. You saw. You saw the other day.

[Arian Foster]

And, and you're buying and selling nothing.

[Christian]

Nothing. T. What was. What did somebody short the other day? Oh.

[T Bob]

Oh, it was. I saw what you're talking about.

[Christian]

It had to do with tariff tweets from Trump and some guy shorted some. I can't remember the exact.

[T Bob]

It was food something.

[Christian]

Right. He. He shorted something that, like, nobody had any idea this stuff was coming. And then he shorts it and continues to. And continues to make money up until, I think, like, a minute or two before for this new Trump tweet came out that made everything. That made everything that he was betting on like, come to fruition. And you have no idea who it is because you can't. You. You. You know, you can trace to the wallet, but you can't know who owns the wallet unless it's found. Unless you found some sort of, like, social engineering linkage to it or something.

[Arian Foster]

Right.

[T Bob]

We're talking about different things. I saw somebody. It was a. He was joking, but I think it was real. He was like, I shorted Indian restaurants or something.

[Christian]

I'll have to find it.

[T Bob]

I'll have to find it.

[Arian Foster]

So, yeah, that's Dick Cheney talk, I guess. That's my bit for Dick Cheney.

[Mackenzie]

I love Christian Bale's performance in Vice.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, he was very good.

[Aryan]

Very good.

[Mackenzie]

I think that's the best part of Dick Cheney is that movie.

[Arian Foster]

I watched that movie in a theater in. I believe it was McLean, Virginia, and Senator Richard Gephardt was sitting next to me.

[Christian]

Oh, wow.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

How do you take the movie?

[Arian Foster]

I didn't really have much of an emotional reaction to anything. He's always been kind of a even keeled, stately man.

[Christian]

I just don't remember. Or as a kid. I vaguely remember Dick Cheney shooting someone.

[Arian Foster]

Yes.

[Christian]

But I've never come to the story as an adult, so I don't. I Don't know what acts they were like pheasant hunting or something.

[Arian Foster]

Okay. So. Yeah, so I guess we'll do a. We'll do an epilogue for the obituary. He also shot his buddy.

[Mackenzie]

Did he die?

[Arian Foster]

No, his friend didn't. In fact, his friend apologized in a news interview for getting shot in the face. Yeah, so. So they were. They were going hunting.

[Mackenzie]

This is friend, Kate.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Didn't see that. Yeah, they were going hunting together. And Cheney fired. Birdshot hit him in the face in the neck, put him in the hospital. And then he was like, yeah, it was my mistake. I should. I should not have been standing there, which, I mean, I don't know enough about that particular type of hunting and where they were standing and all that.

[Christian]

Okay.

[Arian Foster]

I don't know that Dick Cheney would have shot his friend in the face. I. I feel like that's. He's op. He was a man that was operating at levels like he would.

[T Bob]

Had.

[Arian Foster]

He would have had a guy to do that for.

[Christian]

I mean, that is, though, the most most powerful like that. That's how you know you're the most powerful vice president's ever existed, is you shot a man. And he apologized for being in the way.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, sorry. Sorry about standing in front of your gun.

[Christian]

Yeah, it looks like it was a bitcoin short and ethereum short. And it was. And then. And it was tied to Trump tariff threats that nobody knew about.

[Arian Foster]

Okay.

[Christian]

Until the minute. And somebody made an account, made $190 million in profit in under 24 hours.

[Arian Foster]

Holy.

[Christian]

So, like, insider trading is just in the crypto space. It's completely legal.

[Arian Foster]

That. That's crazy. And I don't think that there's a way that you can really police it now. It feels like the. The genie's out of the bottle, toothpaste out of the tube.

[Christian]

Well, and so, because, you know, you could argue that because the, the current administration is in the space and making money on the space. They have no desire to. They have no desire to police it either.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, that's. That's also true. All right, so that was Dick Cheney. You do not, under any circumstances have to hand it to him.

[Christian]

I love that his name is Dick.

[Arian Foster]

Speaking of vice presidents, I was. I was walking past the gambling cave the other day, and I heard the Yak discuss this. I don't know if they ever got back around to it, but somebody made a joke about Al Gore inventing the Internet, and then everyone laughed at it. And then they said, wait, why. Why do we laugh at that? No, One really knows the story behind.

[Christian]

I don't know it either.

[T Bob]

I just know it was real.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

She thought that it was. That he actually invented the Internet.

[T Bob]

Yes.

[Arian Foster]

Which is very funny. But then, then you got to see them all kind of realize like, hey, where does that story, where does that come from?

[Christian]

I actually don't know. I just remember hearing that as a kid.

[Arian Foster]

So he, he kind of took credit for the Internet because when he was, when he was in Congress, there was a bill that he passed that had funding for the development of the, the Internet as it was like, I guess just kind of a new thing.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

It was like one place that was working on this type of technology that he got taxpayer money. He was, his name was on a bill that ended up having money that went to that one group of researchers and then that group of researchers did some good work. But it's not like he invented the Internet and there were a lot of other people that were working on it.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

And, but yeah. So Al Gore kind of claim. That's a bold thing to claim. And it's not true that he invented the Internet.

[Christian]

The Internet was hot at the time though. He thought it was going to get in political brownie points, I remember. And then it just ended up becoming a joke. I mean, I remember south park joking about it. Obviously his political opponents joked about it.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. You can't claim that you invented the Internet.

[Christian]

No.

[Arian Foster]

You can't even like even think about taking credit. Even if you, even if Al Gore personally was like, I'm. I really think that the Internet in, in 30 years is going to provide high definition streaming services that will then be canceled by ESPN because they are too greedy and don't want you to watch Monday Night Football. I believe in the future of this product.

[Christian]

Who, who did invent the Internet? I mean, are we talking the 60s, wasn't it?

[T Bob]

It was like CERN, that thing in Switzerland that had the, the Large Hadron Collider.

[Christian]

Yeah. I love all the CERN theories that were already like, like Mandela.

[Arian Foster]

I think DARPA helped to invent the Internet.

[T Bob]

I think it was at cern, the department.

[Arian Foster]

It was like a part of. It was like a, a military, US Military funded thing or at least email. The email part was.

[T Bob]

That may be true. I've always heard. I'm seeing Tim Berners Lee is the guy most commonly credited with it.

[Arian Foster]

We should know that guy's name.

[Christian]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Right. Like if, if, like that should be a bigger name.

[T Bob]

And he, he worked at cern.

[Arian Foster]

Okay.

[Christian]

So have you heard the theories that, like the reason why we have the Mandela effect at certain things, like Pikachu's tail and everything is because CERN has already launched us into alternate realities.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, we've talked about that. We had a guy on that wrote a book or, I don't know, did a TV show or something about the Mandela effect. And then he just provided us a bunch of Mandela effect examples that were just complete and total.

[T Bob]

It was the worst. One of the worst episodes we've ever done.

[Arian Foster]

I. I thought. I thought he was joking. He was like, that's the jingle for the Ace Hardware store. Ace is the place. And then he asked us to finish Helpful Hardware Store. And he was like, it used to be Hardware man. And everyone remembers Hardware Man. And we're like, what?

[Christian]

I don't know. I've never heard Harder man in my life.

[Arian Foster]

Nobody's heard of that.

[Christian]

Maybe he got. He just got shifted.

[Arian Foster]

I.

[T Bob]

No, they were all just things that had changed. He was like, have you ever noticed in the logo for Coca Cola, it used to have a dash? Now it's like a little square and it's like. Yeah, they just changed it. In the last 80 years, I'm going through trying to find Aryan in my text from during the episode. Cuz he was just texting me like, we got to get the out of here.

[Christian]

Was it worse than Chief's microplastics episode?

[Mackenzie]

Unfortunately, no.

[Arian Foster]

I still haven't made my way through that whole episode. Aran's here.

[Aryan]

Never. That.

[Christian]

That.

[Aryan]

That is torture. Who would do that?

[Arian Foster]

I kind of want to listen to it just because it's become part of the lure of the show.

[Aryan]

It's horrible.

[Arian Foster]

I started and then Chief wasn't back on the show for like years, four years. No.

[Christian]

I think I was on the show when she finally came out. I think that topic is just.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, it had nothing to do with Chief. Chief is.

[Christian]

We.

[Arian Foster]

We love having him on.

[T Bob]

I have Aryan's text from. We're going back and forth while we're recording. Looks like his breath stinks. He's. This. This MF Eric owes me an hour of my life with interest. There's some other ones that I can't repeat. It's.

[Arian Foster]

It's true.

[Aryan]

Yeah, it was horrible.

[Arian Foster]

Aaron, how you doing?

[Aryan]

I'm great, man.

[Arian Foster]

We got T. Bob in here today.

[Christian]

What's up, Aaron?

[Aryan]

I see what's up, baby. Chill.

[Arian Foster]

There was.

[Aryan]

So you got a mullet too?

[Arian Foster]

I got a mullet, Yeah. I like how you said that. Gross. Oh, come on, man.

[Aryan]

No.

[Arian Foster]

Come on, dude. Everyone, everyone, wait.

[Christian]

It doesn't get the seal of approval, Aaron.

[Aryan]

Mullets are horrible.

[Arian Foster]

G. I disagree.

[Aryan]

It screams Confederacy. It just screams.

[Arian Foster]

No, it could also be.

[Aryan]

It just. The wind hits and it goes states rights in the back.

[Arian Foster]

It could also be Australian coated.

[Christian]

Oh, I don't know.

[Arian Foster]

You're a good cunt.

[Aryan]

Stage rights.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, States rights. I'm an Australian. I'm Australian southerner.

[Aryan]

States rights, mate.

[Arian Foster]

Stage right. Hands off me. Gone.

[T Bob]

Isn't that the outback? The Australian South?

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

End off, McGunn.

[Arian Foster]

That was a little British. Yeah. Oh, whatever. I. I like it. I'll tell you what, man.

[T Bob]

How long are you planning on keeping that?

[Arian Foster]

You gotta roll with it.

[T Bob]

He's locked in, like six months. Okay.

[Arian Foster]

I. I took my first shower this morning.

[Christian]

Had to feel so much better.

[Arian Foster]

Oh, my God.

[Christian]

Yeah, I feel so.

[Arian Foster]

It was the best shower of my entire life.

[Christian]

Wow.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

I highly recommend. I washed my legs and everything. You know what? I realized this. I think a big part of the reason why I just in the past have let the soap trickle down.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Is because I got no time anymore if I'm. If I'm showering with long hair.

[Christian]

No.

[Arian Foster]

It's crazy. It takes up so much time.

[Mackenzie]

Imagine us.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, I. Listen, I get it. Like, I had. I had hair like you guys for a very long time. And if I'm doing a full on shampoo condition and also the rest of it, I'm looking at 12 to 15 minutes in the shower. And I got in this morning, I did the shampoo like 30 seconds, rinsed out, quick conditioner, 30 seconds, rinsed out. I had all the time in the world. I walk. I treated myself. What? Gave myself a mani, pedi. And by that I mean I washed my. My arms and my legs fully. I got all this time on my hands. I'm gonna be so efficient.

[Christian]

I don't go past my shins. Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Because it does trickle down. Yeah, yeah. The soap gets there.

[T Bob]

Arian, I'm actually curious, since you said you're a 30 minute bathroom guy, how long are you showering?

[Aryan]

I'm a 30 minute toilet guy, not a bathroom guy.

[T Bob]

Like, what's the. What's the distinction?

[Aryan]

There's many things in the bathroom.

[T Bob]

Okay, sure. Yes. So. But how long are you showering?

[Aryan]

That could be like 15. Like 15. That depends if I. If I'm. If I'm just doing the wash and the shampoo and conditioner. 10. But if, like, I wanna, you know, enjoy. Let the shower run down my back. Put some YouTube on. I could be in there 30, 40 minutes.

[T Bob]

YouTube.

[Christian]

Yeah, I put YouTube on in the shower as well, actually. That's where a lot. That's where like, a lot of Voidzilla.

[T Bob]

Are you taking your phone into the shower?

[Christian]

Yeah. This phone case is really good. And I have, like, a perfect little shelf that it can sit on and not get wet.

[Aryan]

That's a little indentation on the.

[Christian]

On the wall. Me too.

[Aryan]

Just sit there. Boom. Plop it up. And I can just sit there and water. Water on my back. You know, you kind of sit there, you get a little, you know, on top. You know, you fill it up and.

[T Bob]

Let it run down.

[Christian]

I shower three times a day.

[Arian Foster]

That's a bit excess. But you do work out.

[Christian]

Well, it's like. But it's like my superpower. Like, if I'm tired, take a shower. I'm money. I'm good to go.

[Arian Foster]

You get back.

[Christian]

Yeah. So I sleep like four to five hours a night. So I take one when I wake up, take one after workout, take one before bed.

[Arian Foster]

You go cold shower?

[Christian]

No, no.

[Arian Foster]

Sometimes I. I try a cold shower.

[Christian]

It's so painful. I'm like this immediately.

[T Bob]

There's just.

[Christian]

There's certain things in my life I'm like, I'm gonna treat myself.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

And not taking cold showers is one of them.

[Arian Foster]

Sometimes I'll get in when it's still a little bit cold as the water hasn't fully heated up yet. And then that's my cold showers. Like, I'll stand there when it's like 60 degrees in the shower and then let it cook all the way up to, like, 95.

[Christian]

Well, and that's where you get the. That's like. You know, sometimes when you're really thirsty, sometimes I'll almost put off getting water a little bit, because then when you get the water, it tastes so fudgeing good. So that's kind of like that conceptually. Yeah. Where that, that, that immediate bit of cold helps you appreciate the relief so much more.

[Arian Foster]

It does it.

[T Bob]

Explain this to me. So you're thirsty.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

And you're like, I'm just going to wait a little while.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

To make it better.

[Christian]

Just juice it up.

[Aryan]

How long?

[Christian]

Not.

[T Bob]

Not too long.

[Christian]

And it probably happens more naturally where I'm just like. Not, like, actively, like, I'm not going to allow myself water.

[Arian Foster]

But.

[Christian]

Yeah. I don't know. It just. It just. It just becomes more satisfying.

[Arian Foster]

That's football guy mentality right there.

[Christian]

Water.

[T Bob]

Water makes you weak.

[Arian Foster]

Water makes you weak. Yeah. Just. Just swish and Spit swishing.

[Christian]

That was. That was the coolest part, though, about playing college football versus, like, high school and stuff. Or maybe most like, pampered part that I thought was ridiculous in high school, but in college I came to, like, rely on. It was just other people squirting water in your mouth.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

Like, it's actually ridiculous conceptually. You just stand there and open your mouth and they have to come around and give you water.

[T Bob]

But I don't like that. I want to control my own flow.

[Christian]

You can really enter a flow state with these trainers, though. Like. Like, it's. I. It's tough to explain, but in my experience, it just. You could very much get to a point where, like, it was the perfect amount.

[T Bob]

You have a rapport.

[Christian]

Yeah, yeah. Exactly what you needed. You know, everybody runs out there. It's. It's like. It's like a pit crew. Yeah, like. Like Lubin, you know, filling. Filling the gas. But it's just so funny. Like, your hands are on your hips. You just can't even be bothered to. To grab a water bottle and squirt it in your own mouth.

[Arian Foster]

It is. It is funny seeing the people inside sprinting up like. Yeah, the pit crew.

[T Bob]

Did y' all in high school have, like, the PVC pipe trough?

[Arian Foster]

Oh, yeah, the horse.

[T Bob]

That's what we had.

[Christian]

We didn't have that, huh?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. The water horse.

[T Bob]

Yeah. There were no bottles. It was a. It was a ten foot, like, rectangle of PVC pipe with a hose running into it. It had the holes poked in the top and water was like, over and.

[Christian]

Okay.

[Arian Foster]

And the flow on this thing was terrible. Awful. It was. You got like, no water.

[Christian]

You're going mouth to hole, like, and.

[T Bob]

You'Re still getting nothing.

[Arian Foster]

It was a trickle of water. Like, I piss in a thicker stream. That's more productive than some of these water horses that were just trying. It was so sad. You go up to it, you'd be so thirsty. Oh, great. It's a water break and you get maybe a half mouthful of water.

[Christian]

We used to get. We used to have, and this was in high school and college, actually, that just like the coolers are like the four hoses coming off of him. And those things spray hard. Yeah, they get after it.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, the like, October bong type thing.

[Christian]

Yes. Oh, they're so good. I remember too, my high school tried to go through a stretch where you know how, like, scientifically, like, warm or room temperature water hydrates you more effectively. Yeah, they tried that. But I think it's fascinating because I don't care what the physical science is. The mental cost of trying to drink room temperature water when it's 100 degrees with 100 humidity outweighs any and all physical benefits. I mean, it's terrible.

[T Bob]

Supposed to be better for you.

[Christian]

That's what I'm saying. So it's like. Yes. Like it's supposed to be like a physical advantage, but the mental cost, I think just completely depletes any advantages.

[T Bob]

And I don't believe that.

[Christian]

Oh, it.

[T Bob]

Your body can regulate it faster, whatever the hell. I. I don't care. And I. That's probably fake anyway. People have been drinking cold water for thousands of years. I think it's going to be just fine.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, it's like a matter of seconds to make that water warm enough for. For your body to absorb it. I don't care what the science says out there. The red Coleman thermos with like half. Half filled up with ice. You know that I'm talking about big jug. The per. Yeah, the personal one. That thing. Water has never been colder than drinking out of that thing. That was the Stanley cup for guys.

[T Bob]

I feel like we've come a long way.

[Arian Foster]

I'm gonna start carrying one around like. Like a Stan. Like my own Stanley cup, except it's going to be a 1993 Coleman Thermos that's constantly half filled up with ice sloshing around. And I'm gonna be so much more refreshed than anyone out there that went and spent like 70 bucks on a water bottle with a straw.

[Christian]

That's actually one of my favorite benefits of working here is having unlimited cold waters and electrolytes just on tap.

[Arian Foster]

It's everywhere.

[Christian]

Just ready to go.

[T Bob]

For 38 bucks on eBay, you can get the. The cup and the cooler.

[Arian Foster]

I'm in. I'm in. Say less.

[Christian]

The cooler is very. That. That like rockets me back to my childhood. The slide over. Is it like the slide over the top? Like it's like. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Arian Foster]

You could fit so many barrel drinks in there. Oh, that thermos.

[T Bob]

And that's old too. That 92. You said 93 years in 92.

[Arian Foster]

That's a good year, Coleman. I'm gonna buy that right now.

[T Bob]

What were you doing in 92?

[Arian Foster]

I was at soccer practice. I was at soccer practice at. At Hutchinson elementary. Sweating my balls off.

[T Bob]

Now, before you buy that one, there is a co branded Marlborough.

[Arian Foster]

Oh, wow.

[T Bob]

For 13 bucks.

[Arian Foster]

Okay. That one looks like they just slapped the sticker on there.

[T Bob]

You think?

[Arian Foster]

I don't think that's straight up.

[T Bob]

I Think that's on there.

[Arian Foster]

That's.

[Aryan]

You know what?

[Arian Foster]

I. I appreciate the aesthetic of that. I think it might be I can either have a mullet or have that thermos, but I don't think I can have both. The cigarette themed.

[Christian]

Yep.

[Arian Foster]

Water thermos.

[T Bob]

No, dude, they're real. Because there's more.

[Arian Foster]

I would have loved to have that three days.

[T Bob]

Two days ago.

[Arian Foster]

Two days ago. You understand what I'm saying?

[T Bob]

I mean, nobody has to know. I mean, I guess if you're carrying around the office.

[Christian]

Full states rights.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, full states rights for sure on that. Like, I was thinking about maybe buying one of those double guitars last week.

[Christian]

You can't do that with a mullet. That.

[Arian Foster]

It might look better with the mullet.

[T Bob]

What are the brands you can't be associated with now that you have a mullet?

[Arian Foster]

Do you mean, like from a. An advertiser's perspective or like, what brands would potentially want to do business with a molted man that now would be like. That's too far.

[Christian]

What would increase.

[T Bob]

No.

[Christian]

The opp.

[T Bob]

Yes. The opposite. What can you not be seen with for fear of.

[Arian Foster]

Of airing.

[T Bob]

Creating the wrong narrative?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, see, I don't. I don't think I can. I gotta say no to mellow yellow. Okay, still around every now and again you run into a mellow yellow at a. At a soda fountain. Yeah, I've seen it.

[Christian]

I mean, it's all camo. Off the table.

[Arian Foster]

I don't want to say all camo.

[T Bob]

Can you eat at Waffle House?

[Arian Foster]

Yes.

[Christian]

I think you can still eat a Waffle House, actually.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, I think it's actually required something of. Of everybody. I can't put those giant KC headlights on my Jeep.

[T Bob]

Okay.

[Arian Foster]

No, no, the Casey headlights. It's too far. I would say probably knives. A knife company.

[Christian]

Are no fear stickers allowed? No fear.

[Arian Foster]

Yes. Big Johnson.

[T Bob]

No, don't tread on me.

[Arian Foster]

The Gadsden flag. Yeah, I.

[Christian]

That might have been out from. I mean, that might have been out even pre bullet, but like, og Gadsden.

[Arian Foster]

Flag, people, they got to be like, hey, I like it. I liked it before. It was lame, you know? Yeah. It's a good question, though, Big T. I think I'll have to consider a little bit more. The Jinkos are gonna look. They're gonna hit harder now. Yeah, There's a lot about me that was kind of mullet adjacent in terms of my T. I don't know if.

[Christian]

You can understand how cool Jinkos were when we were younger. I used to want a pair, so Badly. And my parents wouldn't allow me to buy one. It's one of the great disappointments of my childhood I've yet to rectify.

[Arian Foster]

Did you want the big wide leg ones? Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Christian]

I wanted a wallet chain.

[Aryan]

Oh yeah.

[Christian]

And. And just some big jinkos where you couldn't see my shoes.

[Arian Foster]

Maybe some airwalks under there. I. I told the story in the show, but I'll tell you, T. Bob, I wanted Jenko's more than anything. And my parents, finally, before seventh grade, they were like, we're going to get you a pair of jinkos. And then my mom came home and it was like the skinniest leg version. They were just like defeats the purpose. They were just normal jeans. And then I wore him to school on the first day of school because I was like, I'm back. Back to school shopping, got my jinkos. And then everyone was like, those aren't even jinkos, dude. I was like, yes, they are. Check the tag. Those are jenkos.

[T Bob]

It was so those were actually cool.

[Christian]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

And every school had one guy that had like the biggest jinkos. There was the Jinko guy every school. And this guy had the elephant pockets, the kangaroos, the mammoth ones. And I still remember that guy to this very day. And yeah, you could fit probably, probably four seventh graders in each leg.

[T Bob]

What's his name?

[Arian Foster]

I don't want to. I don't want to put him out there.

[Christian]

Sixth grade.

[T Bob]

He was cool.

[Arian Foster]

If you went to Hernan Middle School, you know who I'm talking about.

[Christian]

Sixth grade. T. Bob wanted more than anything in the world. Frosted tips, a wallet chain and jinkos.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

Are these bad?

[Aryan]

Those were the days for y' all to me. Like the, you know, the boy garage punk bands like them. That's. I miss those days for y'.

[Mackenzie]

All.

[Aryan]

I miss them for y'. All. And I was, I was a fan of that shit. Green Day.

[Christian]

I'm not going back to college to be your friend.

[T Bob]

I'm going so I can get Uber one for students. It saves you on Uber and Uber eats.

[Christian]

I'm there for zero dollar delivery fee on cheeseburgers, up to 10% off smoothies and 6% Uber credits back on rides.

[T Bob]

Just to be clear, I'm there for.

[Christian]

Savings, not whatever you think college is for. Get Uber one for students a membership to save on Uber and Uber eats.

[Mackenzie]

With deals this good, everyone wants to be a student.

[Arian Foster]

Join for just 499amonth.

[Mackenzie]

Savings may vary eligibility and member terms apply.

[Christian]

I feel like is it isn't isn't. Am I crazy or have I seen online that that, like, pop punk, white boy culture, and, like, black culture are having a moment together right now? I saw some tiktoks of, like, there's.

[Aryan]

A dude I just listened to. Let me shout him out. Hold on. There's a dude I just listened to who had that vibe. Dwayne.

[Arian Foster]

Okay.

[Aryan]

E apostrophe Wayne. W A Y, N E. I listen to this dude's whole album, and it's a whole bunch of, like, that, like, real emo pop punk. I loved it, though. And he just came out with a song called Yes, I Do. And that is. It's like a Minneapolis 80s funk prince vibe. And that is hard, dog. Like, I like. I love that type that. When young people are starting to get creative with their music. I love it. I love it.

[Christian]

Shout out. Dwayne.

[Arian Foster]

He's got a great haircut. Aran.

[Christian]

Does he have a mullet?

[Arian Foster]

He's got a mullet. He's got a mullet.

[Aryan]

Hate that.

[T Bob]

That.

[Aryan]

That will not grow on me, literally or figuratively.

[Arian Foster]

Me and Dwayne. There's also another band out there called the Paradox that a lot of people saw. They went viral on. On Instagram, and now they're opening up for Green Day.

[Christian]

That's a good name.

[Arian Foster]

And I think they're. I think they're, like, maybe teenagers, maybe in their 20s. Early. Early 20s. But it's a black pop punk band, and when you listen to them, it sounds like early 2000s emo.

[Christian]

Drew ski does a very good pop punk singing voice. He does everything when he wants to.

[Arian Foster]

I know. He's so. He. Drew Ski is super talented.

[Christian]

That's. Dude. So I've been. I was obsessed with him for years, and through one of my friends, I finally got to hang out with him for an entire night.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

And I just blew it. I don't think he liked me at all.

[Arian Foster]

Oh, no.

[Christian]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I was so nervous before. I, like, backed into a car. I was basically having an anxiety attack when I showed up to dinner. And, like, then he started clowning me, and I couldn't keep. I just, like. I still think back in it, like, man, I had. I had my one shot to be boys if you clown.

[Aryan]

Well, it depends on how he's gonna.

[Christian]

Yeah, no, it didn't. I don't think it was like. Yeah.

[Aryan]

I don't know, because, I mean, there's a difference. I guess there's this. But usually when we clown, y', all, it's because we fuck with.

[Christian]

Oh, no, no, for sure. And I know the difference. And I. And like, his boys, they were all from Atlanta. I was from Atlanta. I. I got. Me and his boys, we ended up playing blackjack together. And I like me that we ended up being pretty cool, but I don't think Drew Ski liked me.

[Arian Foster]

Was that the night that Hank hung out with him too? Yeah, because Hank had the same reaction the next day. Like, I blew hanging out with Drew Ski.

[Christian]

Yeah. I woke up that night on a. On a toilet at 6:30am in the LaBerge Casino. Yeah. With thousands of dollars of chips in my pocket. Blackout had. Had no idea how I had. How I had gotten there.

[Arian Foster]

Drew must get that from white people a lot. I feel like he. He hangs out with a lot of people that are so nervous to hang out Drew Ski because they love him, and then they want to be cool with Drew Ski. And then they get really drunk or take it too far, and then he's like, this guy's kind of. He, like, at some point, Drew Ski's got to be like, I. I don't know what it is about white people, but they just. They love getting really drunk around me.

[Christian]

Thankfully, I didn't now when I would have gotten a blackout stage. That would have been. I think that was. That was post Drew, because I remember everything okay up until we left. But then I saw Mr. Make Money in the casino, and. And I ended up just doing my own degenerate thing. And I just. I don't know what happened.

[Arian Foster]

The night went sideways after hanging out with Raul.

[Christian]

Well, I woke up and I had no. I had. I had no phone. And then I went to security and I found my phone and I found a video. And I guess I had gone outside to smoke cigarettes on a bench and fallen asleep and dropped my phone.

[Arian Foster]

And then, I don't know, because, I mean, the story.

[Christian]

My wife was ready to kill me.

[Arian Foster]

Hank had, like, that exact same story about hanging out with Drew Ski. And then we just started telling him that he puked at the blackjack table, which he. I don't think he actually did, but we just started saying it to mess with him. And until we said it so much that now we believe that he kind.

[Christian]

Of did, I think.

[Arian Foster]

Which I guess is just gaslighting now that I'm saying it out loud.

[Aryan]

That is absolutely.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. But I'm also guessing we guess what ourselves because we told the lies so much. So I'm a victim in this, is what I'm getting at.

[Christian]

Yeah. Victim. Yeah. You should apologize to yourself.

[Arian Foster]

I'm sorry. Pft. That's okay.

[T Bob]

I assume just to go back to the Jinko thing, I assume, you know, these are back.

[Arian Foster]

Oh, yeah. I purchased a pair two years ago.

[T Bob]

What did a pair of Jinkos cost back in the day?

[Aryan]

I don't know.

[Arian Foster]

All right, so 130. Yeah, I would say around 100.

[Aryan]

Yeah, around 100ish. Yeah.

[T Bob]

Okay, so then they probably really haven't gone up all that much with inflation. They're $260.

[Christian]

Yeah, I mean, that's.

[Aryan]

I just. I just got a pair for my daughter. My daughter wanted a pair.

[Mackenzie]

Really?

[Aryan]

She's like, yeah. Oh, yeah. Sixteen. She's like. She used to clown. I used to show her pictures of when I was growing up. Like, I'll send a picture to the group chat of the we used to wear. And she used to clown that. And I'm like, oh, oh, look at you with the baggy on.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

She's like, yeah, man, it's coming back. You were right. I was like, no, I was wrong. That is horrible.

[Arian Foster]

It's gonna be like, it's gonna be a great day when the youth are all just wearing jinkos and skateboarding again, Dyeing their hair. Listen to rap rock, rock.

[Christian]

I used to use a skateboard I at least love. I've never put more time and showed so little improvement at skateboarding. I was obsessed.

[Arian Foster]

I've never really been able to do it. All my friends skateboarded.

[Christian]

I couldn't.

[Aryan]

I caught ollie and used to could kind of kick flip, but not anymore.

[Christian]

There's no. There's no way. I landed, like two kick flips in my life, and I probably tried like 10,000. Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Just stand on that board for an hour.

[Christian]

Oh, bro, the pop. Shove it. The other day in the cold open.

[Arian Foster]

That's right. Yeah.

[Christian]

I wake up barstool with the carpet.

[Arian Foster]

What about the. What about the tech decks?

[Christian]

Oh, yeah.

[Aryan]

Oh, I'm killing with that.

[T Bob]

Those were a big point of contention with teachers.

[Christian]

Yeah. I just joined Instagram like three years ago, probably or something, and one of the first things I got obsessed with was modern finger skateboarding culture. And I bought a little. I bought a new little finger skateboard to try to get really good at it, and it was way harder than I remembered.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, Like, I was.

[Christian]

I was dog shit at it.

[Arian Foster]

Were you, like, trying to play by the rules?

[Christian]

Yeah, Yeah. I wouldn't like cheating and grabbing. I was trying to. Because these people are, like, really ollieing and really flipping and landing. It's like. Like, it doesn't stick to my fingers in the same way that I remember the tech deck sticking to my.

[Arian Foster]

There's like a spider tac controversy with the tech tech guys.

[Christian]

Like, oh, they've got to be. Yeah, absolutely.

[Arian Foster]

Substances on their hands.

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[Christian]

Inc.

[Arian Foster]

You guys want to talk a little bit about the Knights Templar? Oh, what do you know? Do you know about the Knights Templar?

[T Bob]

T. Bob?

[Christian]

Yeah. Okay, so here's what, here's what I guess I would say. I've just. When I think Knight Templar, I think of this. I think of the first ever bankers in terms of the Crusades. You could carry letters of writ or whatever where you could. This is X amount of money. You show up in Jerusalem or wherever and you give it to a Knight Templar bank and you get the money. I think of the. It's a massacre. Is it Valentine's Day? Where there is a date that we still celebrate in which the Templars were kind of betrayed and a lot of them were killed. That I think is Valentine's Day. I could be wrong on that.

[Arian Foster]

Well, they all got executed because the King of France. So since they were bankers and they had a lot of money from some of the treasure that they uncovered during the Crusades, they would loan out money and they loaned out money to a lot of the kings of Europe if they needed to fund a war.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

So the, the King of France in his war against the British. He's like, I'm running out of money. There's only one person I can go to or one group I can go to. And it was King Philip iv. And he went to the Knights Templar and borrowed a shitload of money. Borrowed so much that he could never, ever repay them back. And he was like, you know, it'd actually just be way easier if I killed all of them. I mean, that's kind of on the night, simpler to. To realize, oh, I've loaned this guy $5 trillion dollars and I'm going to visit him every month, and he's the king. We're probably all gonna get killed for all this stuff. So it was October 13th is when they started to round him up. It was 1307, and they did a simultaneous raid on every Templar house in the country, and they arrested everybody, which I think is probably Friday the 13th.

[Christian]

That's what it is. That's what it is. Yes. Friday the 13th.

[Arian Foster]

So Friday the 13th is an unlucky date because that's when all the Templar Knights were apprehended. And then later, they were. They were executed. And in order to justify more arrests, they would torture the knights until they, like, gave up information or just made up stories accusing people or giving testimony to cases that they were already pursuing where they would implicate, like, a friend of theirs that maybe wasn't at all responsible for any, like, plot against the king or anything like that. But then there was one guy named Molay, Jacques de Molay. He was the Grand Master of the Templars, and he. He was executed. They were burning him at the stake, and he cried out a curse against everybody that had falsely accused him, the King and the Pope included. He said, meet me before God within a year, you cowards. And then the Pope, That's.

[Aryan]

Hey, that's.

[Christian]

I'm.

[Aryan]

That's. That's cold.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

When you going out that hard like, hey, you cowards.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, I know they felt that when they look at it.

[Aryan]

Damn. I was kind of cold. I around took him off like, you know what, as a man's dying, and he said some real. Like that. I'll tend to believe him.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

And then King Philip, one of the guys that he cursed, he cursed the Pope and the King. The king died later that year.

[Christian]

Wow.

[Arian Foster]

He had a stroke. And the Pope died one month later. And during his funeral in a cathedral, the church got hit by lightning and burned to the ground.

[T Bob]

That kind of goes crazy.

[Arian Foster]

That goes crazy.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Kind of lit mole.

[Christian]

Yeah. Oh, My God, dude.

[Arian Foster]

Jacques de Molay. He was a real one. But, yeah, they were, like, kind of a secret society. They were like bankers, soldiers, adventurers. They also had. They were. They're kind of incels. They. By definition, they were incels, actually.

[Christian]

In what way?

[Arian Foster]

If you were a knight, you were not allowed to have sex. You were not allowed to kiss a woman.

[T Bob]

That would be a Vol sell.

[Arian Foster]

But it's your boss. It's kind of your boss telling you, yeah, maybe a Volcell.

[T Bob]

You're taking that vow.

[Arian Foster]

It might be a Volcell.

[Christian]

Okay, so wait, a ball. Sounds like you're volunteering for it.

[T Bob]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Okay. Has anybody ever made that joke about Tennessee? Not that I'm aware of the vol cells, no. It'd be a good joke to me. And so just file that one away.

[T Bob]

Okay.

[Arian Foster]

In the future, or at least get.

[T Bob]

Ready, sure you'll find use for it.

[Arian Foster]

Get ready to have, like, a response to anybody that calls you a Volcell. You just have one in the chamber in case somebody brings that up.

[T Bob]

Okay. I always have one in the chamber.

[Christian]

The craziest part to me about the Crusades is still that. Is that, like, Europe? And I think this was partially due to the plague and whatnot, but, like, everything was so destabilized that you had all these men at arms, these knights, and everybody who had nothing to do and no life skills. And so they were just robbing everybody, just robbing Europe blind, killing the townsfolk, extorting towns. And so they. They had to make up this crusade to get them all the fuck out of Europe and, like, give them something to go do.

[Arian Foster]

Give them a project.

[Christian]

Yeah, like, you guys are out of control right now. Yeah. You need to go do something.

[Arian Foster]

It's like when my dog Blake, when he. When he gets rowdy in the house and he starts, like, going on the hunt for my socks and. And just chewing everything up. I'm like, you got to go to daycare.

[Christian]

Go to Jerusalem.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, Go to.

[Christian]

Go. Go win back Jerusalem.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. And they were thinking, like, there's no chance they actually make it there. And then, yeah, they started a. A holy war. But, yeah, they had. They had a bunch of rules for. For the Knights Templar. So you couldn't kiss a woman, not even your mother. They had to be dressed very neatly. They were obsessed with fashion. They were not allowed to wear pointed shoes. They were not allowed to wear shoelaces. They said those abominable things belong to pagans. The shoelaces, which might have something to do with the pilgrims, too. Right. Because the pilgrims rocked. They were buckles. I don't know.

[Christian]

Maybe. I mean, I guess, like, were shoelaces of, like, the barbarian tribes or something, like from the old days. They might have been druids and galls and whatnot.

[Arian Foster]

It's like you should make. Yeah. Your shoes should be made out of one piece of leather.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Fits you snugly. You were also not allowed to have unkempt facial hair or hair like the New York Yankees. They were the New York Yankees.

[T Bob]

I. In ancient and early medieval cultures, knots and bindings were often linked to magic control or pagan ritual. Oh, so like, if you can tie a knot, you're a witch.

[Arian Foster]

That's crazy. I mean, some of the. Some of the old rules are some of the horniest ones, like from the Victorian era, when they. In the Victorian era, they were the most prude, the most conservative. They wouldn't let you show, like, piano legs. You had to. They had to cover up the legs of the piano and of the bench that you sat on while you played the piano because they would remind you too much of a woman's leg. And to me, that's. That rule is way more horny than looking at a woman's leg and be like, wow, she's got great legs.

[Christian]

Yeah. It's like. It's like a me thinks the lady doth protest too much situation. Like.

[Arian Foster]

Right.

[Christian]

You're so defensively horny that you're. You're really just telling the world how diabolically horny you are.

[Arian Foster]

Right.

[Christian]

You're repressing yourself way too much.

[Arian Foster]

Way too much. By the way, I don't think we talked about on the show. We. We do a fashion segment every single week on the show where we talk about the latest in fashion. We're very passionate about it. Aaron, did you see City Sweeney's dress?

[Aryan]

Nope, but I can Google that.

[T Bob]

Yeah, I didn't.

[Christian]

How did you avoid it?

[Arian Foster]

I think you might be reaction. Might be the only guy that hasn't seen it. Arian Foster reacts to the dress.

[Aryan]

Dress.

[T Bob]

This would have been great on Monday.

[Arian Foster]

Images.

[Aryan]

A bunch of dresses popped up. One that is see through.

[Arian Foster]

I'm assuming it's this one.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, I guess it is.

[Christian]

Kind of a silver or gray type of see through.

[Aryan]

I should call.

[T Bob]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Like I said, that's hard.

[Christian]

I like it.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Pretty good, right?

[Aryan]

That's a good dress, man. Hey.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. If the.

[Aryan]

If the knights at Templar was to make a dress, it was like this.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, I think that might.

[Aryan]

It looks like that. That.

[Christian]

That old armor yeah, like, chain. It's got a little bit of chainmail feel to it.

[T Bob]

Their uniforms, from what I've seen in depictions, were pretty hard.

[Christian]

Yeah. The white with the red cross.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, they were.

[Aryan]

How do the women feel about it? Of course, a dude going like it.

[Arian Foster]

You know what I'm saying?

[Aryan]

It's revealing.

[Arian Foster]

Oh, I wasn't talking about. I was. I was talking about her body. I was talking about the. The dress. It's a.

[Aryan]

When I asked how did the women feel about it, you spoke up, which is kind of wild.

[Arian Foster]

No, but I was defending myself. Like, a misogynistic allegation about her dress. You know what? I'm gonna Google it again just to make sure that I like the dress.

[Aryan]

Okay. Yeah, I'll try it one more time. So how did the women feel about the dress?

[Arian Foster]

Oh, my God.

[Aryan]

He did it again.

[Arian Foster]

It's insane.

[Christian]

Like. Like, it's not about you, Eric.

[Arian Foster]

It's about the dress.

[Mackenzie]

I saw the dress, and I honestly had, like, basically no reaction to it. I thought it was cute or, like, a pretty dress, but I. Sydney Sweeney has pulled out some crazy stops before fashionably. This didn't really move the needle for me either way. I was surprised that this is kind of the one that went crazy on the timeline. Honestly. Yeah, I didn't really have an opinion on it either way. Kind of meant nothing to me. I also didn't realize it was partially see through until my third or fourth look.

[Christian]

Isn't she.

[Aryan]

That's the thing. I think I'm so desensitized to. Like, maybe I'm just older and, like, I've. I've seen it all done at all. So that, like, don't. I'm. I don't have, like, a regular dude. Like, I think I do think it's a dope dress.

[Christian]

It's revealing, obviously.

[Aryan]

And I know how dudes would find that. Like, oh, my God. Like, I just. And maybe a lot of dudes feel the same way as me, but it's like, I don't get overly, like, when I see breasts. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm not like, oh, my God. Breasts. It's like. Yeah, she wants to reveal. She wants to be a little bit, you know, edgy. That's what's up. But I'm not, like, I don't get horny when I see that. You know what I mean?

[Christian]

I think she was. I think she says that she was doing it as a. As, like, a, like, advocacy for, like, feminism and women's Bodies and how you should be able to dress how you want without being either like, validated or denied by the male gaze. Get it? A noble goal.

[Arian Foster]

I agree. I just thought it was a great dress.

[Mackenzie]

Yeah, I, I, But I was confused at the uproar considering, like, Sydney Sweeney isn't necessarily known to dress conservative.

[Christian]

It's, it's just because I see American eagle to add, you know, men are so hung up on the female nipple, it's insane.

[Mackenzie]

I saw you talk about that on Big Boys Club.

[Christian]

Yeah. It's just, it's just crazy. Our American hang up with the female nipple. It's, it's just like a guy's nipple.

[Arian Foster]

And it is and it isn't.

[Christian]

That's fair.

[Arian Foster]

That's produces things.

[Christian]

It produces things.

[Mackenzie]

Yeah.

[Christian]

I've tasted it. Straight from the tea. It's great.

[Mackenzie]

Really?

[Christian]

Yeah. It tastes like cereal milk. Breast milk does, but. But it's warm, which was a bit odd. But that's not the point. The point is, like, I just. It's very funny psychologically to me how you can see all of a breast except for the nipple, and then you, like, get excited still. If you even get, like, a hint of the nipple or something. I don't know what it is. It's, like, coated.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. No, it's because it's forbidden fruit.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

It's like, because it's covered up all the time.

[Christian]

Yeah, I guess that's it. Yeah. It's that simple, probably.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

I mean, I said in Danny's video that he posted last week, like, girls asking questions about guys. I was like, I don't get the boob thing. Like, I'll never get the boob thing. Which I think is, you know, why I'm straight, but I just don't get the boob thing. And then I asked other men around Mackenzie and I's desk that. I was like, I just don't, like, I just don't get it. And they were like, how. What's not to get? I was like, I don't know what is to get?

[Arian Foster]

They're just nice.

[Christian]

They're just awesome.

[Arian Foster]

They're just nice.

[Mackenzie]

It's just like, fat.

[Christian]

Yeah, I know.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, I know.

[Mackenzie]

I said, I applaud when a girl has small boobs. I'm like, good for her. She doesn't have to deal with.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, no, that's fine too.

[Mackenzie]

She's not carrying this burden. The upkeep.

[T Bob]

I would guess it's mostly an evolution, evolutionary thing.

[Christian]

I, I've always thought it. Yeah. Because I mean, like, it gives you Life at the beginning of your life. I've always wondered if that's the case. I mean, but let's be clear, like, yeah, big boobs, small boobs. I'm equal opportunity. Like, I, I just naturally get excited about all boobs. It's maybe. Yeah, I think it's a forbidden fruit thing. It's like a taboo thing. Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Because it's covered up. It's like, oh, I want to see that. All right.

[Aryan]

Because there's many civilizations to this day where they're. They out.

[Christian]

Yeah. It's not a big deal. It's not.

[Aryan]

It's not a big deal.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

We got more Templar stuff here. So. Did you know that there was a Mexican drug cartel that was named after the Knights Templar?

[Christian]

No.

[Arian Foster]

It's pretty cool. Pretty cool. It was. They also had, like, very strict fashion regulations that they had to adhere to, but they, somebody in that group was like a real history buff and they realized, hey, you know what? They were kind of like a gang back then that terminated all of Europe. That's what we want to do here in North America. So we're going to name ourselves the Knights Templar. And that's, it's a pretty hardcore name for a gang. They had a book, a rule book that had the crosses and the knights on horseback, and they had a code of ethics, including helping the poor, respecting women and children, and not killing for money.

[Christian]

I mean, I kind of love that.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, it's pretty. Like, I, I respect a cartel with a rulebook.

[Christian]

It's, it's, it's, it's kind of like, it's, it's very nerdy.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

In a lot of ways. Which, which I appreciate.

[Arian Foster]

Probably a reason why they didn't really stick along around that long.

[Christian]

Because, yeah, it's a ruthless game.

[Arian Foster]

You get one cartel that's like, we're not playing by your rule book. And then some of the members of the Knights Templar that aren't like, dyed in the wool, True believers in the history and haven't read their, their Middle Ages, they're like, hey, why, why do we have to play by these rules? We're just getting. They're selling more coke than us. We're getting beheaded out here. Come on, man.

[Christian]

Are you sure we can't kill for money?

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, because that's kind of the point. It's kind of the point of what we're doing right now. But, yeah, they, they, the original Knights Templar had a bunch of treasure. They were like big time treasure guys, treasure hunters. And they would bury treasure, they would hide treasure and when the king tried to kill all of them, a lot of people thought, well, they knew. Some did not get arrested. There were some that went underground and were able to. To get away and they had all this gold. A lot of people think that that treasure is still out there to this day. If you look.

[T Bob]

Ark of the Covenant.

[Christian]

Holy Grail.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, the Holy Grail. So that. That is one of the theories that they. They survived the executions and they went underground to protect the Holy Grail that they found.

[Christian]

Indiana Jones dude.

[Arian Foster]

Yep. So there's. There's a document called the Chinon Parchment, China parchment, and it was found in 2001 in the Vatican. It documents that the Templars were exonerated by the Catholic Church in 1312.

[Christian]

But.

[Arian Foster]

They were still made to be disbanded. And so they were kind of. They were called a cult at the time by the Church. And some people think that they had the Grail and they've got it hidden under a different name. So it wasn't the Knights of Templar. They had to change their name after being called a culture and disbanded. And they went underground, changed the name, and then hid all their. And what. So what is. What is the Holy Grail?

[Christian]

It's the cup that caught the blood from Jesus's rib. Right.

[T Bob]

And that he allegedly used at the Last Supper.

[Christian]

Oh, okay.

[Arian Foster]

So what do you. What do you get if you drink from it? Is it like Indiana Jones?

[T Bob]

I have no idea. Immortal life? I don't know.

[Christian]

I mean, I love. I love how. In. How into holy relics medieval people were in general.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

Like this saint skull. This. You know, the spear that stabbed Jesus or whatever. Wasn't Hitler trying to hunt that down in World War II?

[Arian Foster]

He was trying to hunt down a lot of stuff.

[Christian]

Yeah. He liked magic items.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

I'll tell you what, maybe the most. I mean, bad guy.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

But magic items are cool.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. He was really into those. But they were all collectors back then. You're right. Because it's not like they were making a lot of new stuff. It was way harder to make stuff.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Back then.

[Christian]

So I.

[Aryan]

This is actually news me. The Holy Grail is just a cup.

[Christian]

It's a grail. That's.

[Aryan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[T Bob]

Well, not if you watch the Da Vinci Code.

[Christian]

Yeah. What does that end up saying? What is Vinci Code?

[T Bob]

Oh, no, that was. I mean, that's a movie.

[Christian]

I love Dan Brown, though. I do like Dan Brown's books.

[Aryan]

Never got into the lore of, you know, the Holy Grail.

[T Bob]

Yeah. Traditionally, the Holy Grail is the. The cup that Jesus used at The Last Supper.

[Aryan]

Yo, that's what. Why the cup? Why not the plate?

[Christian]

Because he drank. You know, this is the. This is my blood. Drink of me also.

[Aryan]

So they wasn't actually drinking his blood, though, was he?

[T Bob]

No, no.

[Aryan]

That's like. It's a metaphor, right? So, like.

[T Bob]

Yeah, well, it depends if who you ask.

[Christian]

That's a matter of Christian theology. Yeah. Debate. Theological debate.

[T Bob]

So.

[Aryan]

Okay, yeah, let's. Let's dig into that. So there are Christians that believe Jesus spilled blood.

[Christian]

They got.

[T Bob]

No, no, no, no. Okay. At the Last Supper, Jesus. There was wine and bread. He said, this is my blood. This is my body. Drink and eat it in remembrance of me today.

[Aryan]

Metaphorically, Correct?

[T Bob]

Yes.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

Catholics believe when you have communion and it is blessed by a priest, it literally transforms into the blood and flesh of Jesus Christ.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Nobody believes that. It's actually the blood in the flesh.

[T Bob]

I just. No, they do believe that.

[Christian]

They.

[Mackenzie]

I mean, I know. I know it's not, but the blessing.

[T Bob]

Is what I do not.

[Christian]

But they were. But there were major fights over this back in the day. Like, they. They. Yes, legitimately, this was a huge sticking point.

[Aryan]

I genuinely thought that everybody knew. Yeah. It's wine. It's just symbolic. Well, there are people that.

[T Bob]

That's the Protestant interpretation. It's real blood.

[Christian]

Well, what transfigures into it.

[Mackenzie]

I'm Catholic. I don't think that it's actually blood and actual flesh.

[T Bob]

But that is the Catholic doctrine.

[Aryan]

Yeah, but I find it hard to. Find me a cat. If you know one, Maddie, text him right now.

[Mackenzie]

I don't know any Catholics that are like that. Catholic.

[Aryan]

I don't think. I. I don't.

[Christian]

I don't.

[Aryan]

I don't. I find it hard to believe that people really think that that is really Jesus's blood.

[Arian Foster]

And so do they also think that anytime when you're taking Communion, like wine that's been blessed by a priest, that.

[T Bob]

That is.

[Arian Foster]

That is also his blood.

[Christian]

Yeah, that's transubstation. There you go.

[T Bob]

Transubstantiation is the Catholic dogma that during the Eucharist, the whole substance of bread and wine is changed into the substance of the body and blood of Christ, even though the outward appearance of bread and wine remain. The transformation which is said to occur through the power of Christ's words in the Holy Spirit during the Eucharistic prayer is the literal and real presence of Jesus.

[Christian]

Vampires.

[Arian Foster]

I do understand the. The fascination behind his cannibalism.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Behind, like, trying to find the Grail. It's like. It's Like a game war in Jersey.

[Christian]

The ultimate game war in Jersey. Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Like Darren Revel would be. He'd try out for the Knights of Templar just to get his. His hands on that. And then they'd be like, no, Darren, you. Sorry, you don't. Well, yeah. You're not really kissing any. Any women. That's okay.

[Christian]

Check mark.

[Arian Foster]

No, that I think about. Darren Revel might have made an excellent night.

[Christian]

But I. But. But Diggy Grill, you got to climb to the top. Sorry.

[Arian Foster]

No, no, no.

[Aryan]

I cut you off. No, I'm delay. We probably spoke at the same time. Go ahead, brother.

[Christian]

No, I didn't have it. I had a shitty joke.

[Arian Foster]

I was it.

[Christian]

I've said it. It was bad. Just fell flat.

[Arian Foster]

I thought it was a good joke.

[Christian]

I thought so.

[Aryan]

Mary Magdalene is his supposed. I don't say wife.

[T Bob]

This. Well, this is the Dan Brown. I don't think even. Like, I don't even think this is a Christian thing. I don't think that's a widely held belief amongst.

[Aryan]

Got you.

[T Bob]

Many scholars. Regardless.

[Christian]

She's a former prostitute, right? That he took into the fold.

[T Bob]

Yes.

[Christian]

Yeah, because that's the thing about Jesus. He'd hang out with.

[Aryan]

Rumor they had kids. Rumor is a good adjective to describe it.

[Arian Foster]

A theory that was put forward by Dan Brown. That is an unpopular theory. It's not widely accepted as being true.

[Aryan]

I think Jesus has a bloodline.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, but can you imagine?

[T Bob]

It makes for an interesting end to a fictional movie.

[Arian Foster]

But, yeah, I don't think there's a lot of historical evidence for that, which is why he had to, like, create a universe where he found clues to it in artwork that doesn't necessarily point in that direction. Hang on.

[Aryan]

I like that story better.

[Christian]

It is fun, though. It is fun. I love Dan Brown. I love all those books. They just come out. The new Robert Langdon book, I got to check it out.

[T Bob]

Really?

[Christian]

I haven't read it.

[T Bob]

Yeah.

[Christian]

Did y' all read Origin?

[Arian Foster]

No, no.

[Christian]

That was probably from six or seven years ago at this point, but is one of my favorite, favorite books that I've ever read. Sort of dealing with artificial intelligence and the rise of AI and the end of it. You know, it's a fun story, but the end of it kind of becomes a thesis on AI and where it's all going to go. And I found it to be pretty fucking prescient for where we've come in the last interview and a half decade. Prescient?

[T Bob]

How was it not prescient?

[Christian]

Oh, maybe it is.

[Arian Foster]

I don't know.

[Christian]

I Haven't said that word out loud too much.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, it's a word.

[Christian]

You see, you're probably written presence. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

I always think about Joseph. I feel like it was probably a lot to take in when Mary got pregnant and said that it was God that got pregnant. That would be wild.

[Arian Foster]

Joseph was a simp. Oh, yeah.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Wow. That's incredible, Mary. That's. Wow. That's. I knew you were special, Mary.

[Christian]

Joseph trying to tell his boys.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. There's something about you, Mary. I just really. I. Wow. From God.

[T Bob]

Wow.

[Arian Foster]

You're so beautiful.

[Christian]

Okay.

[Arian Foster]

Okay. Yeah.

[Christian]

Okay.

[Arian Foster]

I'll do anything for you.

[Aryan]

Okay. Yeah. I would have picked you, too. I would have picked your womb, too.

[Christian]

Yeah. You know, they're making a. You know, they're making a horror movie about Jesus called, like, the Carpenter's Son or something.

[Arian Foster]

Oh, really?

[Christian]

Yeah, and it looks pretty intense.

[Arian Foster]

That's going to be one of those movies where the marketing is going to be done almost entirely by the people that hate that film.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Christian]

I saw a trailer, but nothing. It was like a teaser, so I haven't. I haven't seen much of it yet, so probably going to be bad.

[Arian Foster]

Did. Did God say anything? Like maybe he'd like a brother or a sister at some point? I think that, you know, can't have him grow up alone. Like, don't want to be an only child. He'll develop a superiority complex.

[Aryan]

Did Joseph and Mary have any other kids?

[Christian]

Yeah, right. He had a brother. Right. In that note.

[T Bob]

That depends on how you. So some people think. Yes. The. The Hebrew word in the Bible can mean brother. It can mean cousin. It can mean just like a person around your family. So some people think. Yes, some people do not believe that.

[Arian Foster]

So there is a possibility that Jesus has a bloodline.

[T Bob]

Well, this would be his siblings.

[Christian]

Half brother.

[Arian Foster]

Oh, half brother.

[Aryan]

Yeah. Yeah, that's the bloodline.

[Christian]

Well, but, but the half. Oh, yeah, because it was at Mary's blood. Yeah. They would share Mary's blood.

[Aryan]

It would have to.

[Christian]

Yeah, they would share Mary's blood. You're right. Yeah.

[Aryan]

Unless God did some. Some wild. Like, you know, he gave Jesus his own unique DNA without his mother's.

[Christian]

Oh, whoa. That's actually very fun to think about that. That could. Yeah, that could be the case.

[Arian Foster]

What's the Catholic doctrine on that? Like, is Jesus. Does he. Did he inherit genes from his mom? Or is it strictly this is 100 God on earth?

[Mackenzie]

In my Catholic teachings, it was that because God and Jesus are one body, he is all he's All God.

[Christian]

All God.

[Mackenzie]

I don't know if there's any. Yeah, I don't know if you could even say, like, Jesus's genetics, because it's. He's technically fully divine.

[Christian]

The triune God.

[Arian Foster]

Yes. He does not have any of, like, Mary in his makeup, I guess.

[Mackenzie]

And, yeah, I guess I've never thought about that, because then why use a.

[Aryan]

Woman in the first place? Falls apart for me, man. You could just put them there. You don't got to make a woman go through nine months.

[Christian]

Hard to explain, though.

[Mackenzie]

Put him there, bro.

[Christian]

Just shows up out of nowhere.

[Mackenzie]

I don't know. I mean, the Angel Gabriel came down and said, you will have the Son of God.

[Arian Foster]

It's a lot of responsibility.

[Mackenzie]

It is a lot of. And. And historically, she was probably about 14 or 13 at the time, because that's 2,000 years ago. But, yeah, I don't know if you would technically say again that Jesus was half God, half Mary. I would think it's really. Him and God are one body, so you would kind of just put it at.

[Christian]

Well, and then you got the Holy Spirit in there as well, right?

[Mackenzie]

Yeah, but obviously the Holy Spirit is. Isn't a figure that comes through as a person. Rather, it's just Jesus in, like, the Holy Trinity.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Mackenzie]

Jesus is really the only physical embodiment of the Holy Trinity. Am I getting this right, Mackenzie?

[Christian]

Sounds right to me.

[Mackenzie]

I have no idea, actually. You really making me tap back into, like, my high school theology classes. But I would say that there is no genetic makeup of Jesus, probably because he was fully divine. I cannot say I was ever probably paying attention in religion class. That's the best I can give to you, unfortunately.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, I could. I can see why this Holy Grail thing is a. Is a prized possession. Yeah, I can. I. I can see it now.

[T Bob]

And they supposedly have the Ark of the Covenant.

[Christian]

I mean, Jesus is essentially the Michael Jordan of history.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

What a. What a unique way to describe him.

[Arian Foster]

Who's the goat? Who's the.

[Christian]

LeBron? LeBron is that, like, Muhammad came, like, thousand years later, burst onto the scene, great career, long tail.

[Arian Foster]

Mm.

[T Bob]

Who.

[Christian]

Who was the go. Kobe.

[T Bob]

Well, who was the goat? Muhammad in other ways, I was thinking.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, who was the.

[Christian]

Who was the goat before Michael Jordan? Like Kareem. Yeah, probably Kareem.

[Aryan]

Or magic.

[Christian]

So then does that make Kareem like Moses or something? In this regard, Moses is the cream.

[Arian Foster]

Could be Moses for sure.

[Christian]

Trying to think about old Jewish goats.

[Arian Foster]

What did they have before Abraham? Like.

[Christian]

Oh, there we go. Yeah. Abraham's Cream. Maybe Wilt.

[Arian Foster]

Who's Ra, the sun God.

[Christian]

Oh.

[Arian Foster]

Who's Zeus?

[Christian]

Bob Pettit.

[Aryan]

That's gotta be Larry Bird. Larry Bird. Zeus.

[Christian]

No, you got to go farther back. You got to go far. We got. We got to go back to, like.

[Aryan]

What is his name? He was the first triple double king.

[Christian]

Oscar Robertson.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

Oscar Robertson.

[Aryan]

Oscar Robinson.

[Christian]

Big old, big raw.

[Arian Foster]

Bob Koozie. Might be Zeus.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

Rob Cousy.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Also, some other stuff about the knights. They. They were very disciplined in battle. They were not allowed to retreat ever. They were not allowed to surrender ever.

[Christian]

Toxic masculinity.

[Arian Foster]

Kind of like. It's kind of like the eunuchs in. In Game of Thrones.

[Christian]

What were.

[Arian Foster]

What was their name?

[T Bob]

Oh, the.

[Christian]

The.

[T Bob]

The.

[Christian]

The eunuch slave army that Khaleesi gets. I should know this. I've read the books and see these.

[T Bob]

Shows, and I can't.

[Arian Foster]

What was the question in Game of Thrones? The. The eunuch army.

[Christian]

The slave army dudes. Yeah.

[Aryan]

They're like, no, they don't got no Jones. What were they called?

[T Bob]

The Unsullied.

[Christian]

The Unsullied.

[Aryan]

There you go. Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. That's kind of like the. The Knights Templars. Probably, like a little bit of tie in with that. They were the first ones on site in the crusade, so they sent them out front, and they were very, very outnumbered, and they defeated Saladin's forces. And they were just. They did not. They looked at. At surrendering or retreating as being way, way, way worse than death.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

It's like they kind of. They kind of yearned for death in a way, which made them, ironically, harder to kill.

[Christian]

It's. Yeah. I mean, it's been interesting in that it's not a very effective tactical idea all the time, but it's kind of like how in Viking culture, Norse mythology, you want to die in battle to go to Valhalla. If your entire ideology is, I'm going to die before I retreat, that will make you have an aggression on the battlefield that can win. The psychological warfare, even if it's not, like, strategic. Like. Like, I think about the Mongols. It's funny you say no retreating. Like the Mongols.

[Aryan]

That was.

[Christian]

Their whole game was fainting.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

Was like hair. Like. They run up, shoot, you run back, try to. They do fake retreats where they would, like, get you to chase after them, then engulf you. Yep. So that's, like, very effective strategically. But here it's not. But. But here. But, you know, psychology is a lot of the ancient battlefield and so if you just have these guys who are well armored and involved, the belief in the world, you can just kind of overwhelm through attitude.

[Arian Foster]

But it's like if you're the Knights Templar going up against the Mongols, oh, you're getting smoked. And you're probably going to get smoked because they're able, they're allowed to retreat strategically.

[Christian]

Yeah, you're.

[Arian Foster]

But then the Knights Templar telling themselves, yeah, we, we may have lost the battle and we also lost the war. But then we lost. We won the real war. War, which is we held up to our creed.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

And our religion, kept our honor. We, we lost. We may have lost the battle and the war, but in a way we kind of won the war too.

[Christian]

And I think the Mongols would laugh at that.

[Arian Foster]

Yes. I mean, the Mongols were pragmatic.

[Christian]

The Mongols had dealings with medieval armies. Have you ever read about General Subadai's ride where they were working their way into Russia? It's the longest military foray without supply lines ever. It only stopped because they got called back because the Khan died and they had to go to, I think it's called like Akuma Thai, where they choose a new leader.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

But there's this famous battle where they face this Slavic army. They obliterate him. And then they take all survivors and they piled them up and put planks over the top of them and they ate a giant feast while they were just groaning and dying underneath them. And then they sold a bunch of the Slavs into slavery.

[Aryan]

Psychotic.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Christian]

And then they sold a bunch of Slavs into slavery like Egypt. And. And then actually later they did get repelled by an Egyptian mercenary army that was made up like a lot of the same Slavic men that would have been sold 10 years ago. But it like seeing their battlefield tactics.

[Arian Foster]

And all things considered, if you're having that feast, wouldn't you rather not have like decaying corpses? Sounds terrible underneath.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Like just in terms of appreciating a good meal.

[Christian]

It's. It's unhinged. You know, they, they. I mean, what's the old Genghis Kwong Khan quote? It's like if, if you had not. It's essentially paraphrasing. If you had not fucked up, God would not have sent me here to deal with you. Like, look, man, if you're pissed at what I'm doing to you, look in the mirror. Because I'm just the vengeance of God. Basically.

[Arian Foster]

There's been a great episode for some hard ass quotes. That's pretty good.

[T Bob]

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[Arian Foster]

There's a couple other things that that Big T wanted to discuss. I kind of want to just let Big T cook on Disney and YouTube.

[T Bob]

Oh, I mean, dude, these people. I.

[Arian Foster]

Are you familiar with what's going on, Aaron?

[Aryan]

I heard Everybody complaining about YouTube and Disney. I've seen the complaints, but I haven't really dug into Wire Bike Man. I assume it's some subscription.

[T Bob]

Yeah. So YouTube TV doesn't have any Disney channels right now, which is all the ESPN's, ABC, all that stuff. I just want. I currently pay for YouTube TV just like $90 a month. I upgraded my Disney plus subscription. Have ESPN Unlimited now so I can watch ESPN. That's another 30. Netflix, Paramount plus because soccer's on there.

[Arian Foster]

Yep.

[T Bob]

All I want.

[Christian]

Probably pay for Apple TV to your phone. You don't even realize it.

[T Bob]

No, I got rid of it once severance went away. But I'll bring it back when that comes back. I. All I want, and I understand this is difficult. I want all these companies to get together and I want one service where I can watch every sport. I don't even need all the other shit. Just give me every professional and collegiate sport that is televised. I want it on one service. I don't care how y' all figure it out. We used to have this, right? But. But I guess there wasn't as much on television. So.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah, I used to not have as many games to.

[T Bob]

Sure, yeah. I want ESPN plus included. I want Paramount, I want every network. Put it all in one thing. I don't care what you charge for it. I just want there can be no carrier disputes. This is all in perpetuity. Ironclad as long as I pay for it, I get the service and it. And it just works. That's all I ask. This, I'll say whatever you want.

[Christian]

This is socialism though.

[T Bob]

T. How do you figure?

[Christian]

Because you're, you're, you're wanting to deny all of these people their ability to take advantage of the market.

[T Bob]

No, I believe, I believe the market will find a solution to this. Disney, these, this dispute.

[Aryan]

This is the market that you so desire.

[Arian Foster]

Finding a solution market is the solution.

[Christian]

This is where the market is led.

[Aryan]

Mine from my perspective, his from his perspective. His from his perspective. And the, and the leagues, the ncaa, the NFL, the mlb, they're going to find the most advantageous spot for them and that is the market.

[T Bob]

I agree. But there's nothing precluding those companies once they acquire those rights of banding together and say because ESPN and Fox. No there's not ESPN and Fox right now have something you can buy where you get both of those.

[Christian]

Espn. Go ahead.

[Aryan]

It's, it's the, it's the greed of the company companies.

[T Bob]

But I'm saying there is a demand for this service that I'm conjuring that.

[Aryan]

Would cut out of a piece of my pie though not necessarily it will because, because each. Let's say Netflix has a marketing budget, right. ABC has a marketing budget, Paramount has a marketing budget, blah blah, blah, so so forth. So I want to go to an exclusive marketing budget so I get more of the ad dollars if I, if I, if I compartmental or consolidate all of that. We're all taking a smaller piece of the pie. It would be enjoyable for the consumer which I agree, agree. Right. But it would be less ad money revenue for the private owners.

[T Bob]

I don't think you have to consolidate it though. Just put them all where I can have your individual subscription fee. Just make it all one price. I don't care. No, no. But I'm not. You don't have to lower it at all. Just add them all up. I don't care what it costs. I just want to be able to.

[Christian]

Watch it and yeah, I mean I guess you could still choose to pay or then like if you could still choose to pay for this or not pay for this. But it was on one system that, that, that could be.

[T Bob]

Make it as expensive as you want. I don't care. I just can't deal with a college football Saturday where you've taken my channels away.

[Christian]

The, the, the, the, the. The problem is. Or the fascinating thing to me is you have YouTube TV, which is clearly the best interface and best platform. And now they're going toe to toe with espn, which is the content holder and is launching their own platform that they're trying to get everybody all in on.

[Mackenzie]

But do you want to know what the problem was last night?

[Christian]

What?

[Mackenzie]

Dancing with the Stars. I can't. So first of all, you can't watch it on YouTube TV, which is where most people watch it. So naturally you go to Disney or wherever you can watch it. Disney crashes halfway through Dancing with the Stars. I had to watch Dancing with the Stars on a Twitch stream. So you tell me that I can't watch it on the thing that I always watch it on that I pay for, and then I have to go watch it on the other thing that I pay for. But then you can't hold it up because everybody switched over so fast because you're not letting us watch it on the other thing. Bob Iger, when I find you. Yeah, I had to watch on a twitch stream.

[Christian]

Disney CEOs been on a bad run lately.

[Mackenzie]

Fun fact, he went to Ithaca College.

[Arian Foster]

That is fun.

[T Bob]

He had come back. Not the last guy was so bad when he tried to retire.

[Christian]

I just don't think Iger's done that good either though. I mean not, not in terms come back. But I'm also a big Disney park nerd and I absolutely loathe what they've done to the customer experience at Disney World. Yeah, it's just a constant whittling down of the things that made Disney great originally just pursuing short term dividends and gains at the cost of long term customer.

[T Bob]

I actually kind of though I went this summer for a couple of days and now that you have to pay for fast passes. Yeah, there you actually. And this is kind of like what I said for the TV thing.

[Arian Foster]

I'll pay.

[T Bob]

I don't care. I just want it to work. And you can go get on every ride and it's 10, 10 bucks. Great, take it. I don't care.

[Christian]

I'm okay with that. But there used to be things like you booked a Disney trip, they had free airfare from the airport. And it's all, it's just, it's tiny little things like that that have added up over time where they've just been taking away here and there, whittling away. And it's still awesome. The employees are still very kind. I love it. It's like my favorite place on earth. It's my favorite thing in the world to do with my kids. But it's just a little disappointing in some ways. And they Got rid of Tom Sawyer's Adventure island to make. Yeah.

[T Bob]

That was the correct decision. I know you're, you're big into, hey, let's go climb on the trees at Disney world. You're paying 200 bucks a day to be.

[Christian]

I had like a six page blog written about Tom Sawyer's ventral and that I didn't think was good enough to. To put out there. So I've just kept it in my docs.

[T Bob]

But no, you should.

[Christian]

I'm very passionate about the demise of Tom Sawyer Venture Island.

[Arian Foster]

Polish that shit. Let the people judge for themselves. There used to be these disputes, not like infrequently, but it was mostly confined to cable where every now and again you get that little line at the bottom of the screen being like, comcast customers don't want you to watch football on Saturday. And they'd scare you, but then they'd all figure it out with this. It seems like. I think ESPN has invested so much money into developing their own app.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

That they have to get paid back for that.

[T Bob]

Well, that's the thing. So they either get the money from YouTube and then they get more money. Or you cancel YouTube and you go get the ESPN app. So they get your money there. Or you go get Hulu Live tv, which Disney owns. Or you go get Fubo, which Disney owns.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

They have everybody by the balls.

[Christian]

That's what I'm saying. The content, like I said, it's a battle between best platform and content holder. And I do think the content holder is going to win.

[T Bob]

Yes. And, you know, here's the worst part. I've been trying all season to get Blutman to come to the office on a Saturday and watch college football. And he won't do it.

[Aryan]

No.

[T Bob]

And finally a month ago, I had to schedule this out a month in advance. He was like, week 11, I will come. And I said, okay, done deal. I've been looking forward to this. Blutman's going to come. I'm going to pick him up. We're going to watch college football all day. And now we don't have tv, we.

[Arian Foster]

Don'T have the game destroying friendships.

[T Bob]

And he's like, yeah, yeah, I can't do it. Big T. If, if the YouTube, I.

[Arian Foster]

Don'T know, how does he normally watch on Saturday?

[Christian]

He has like seven screens.

[T Bob]

Sits at home in silence with all of these screens. He says he can't. Nobody can talk. And I'm like, fine, we'll sit here. I don't care. I just want to. I just want to watch football. With Blutman and now it's ruined.

[Christian]

He's like, he's like Lucius Fox, Morgan Freeman and Dark Knight.

[Aryan]

Yeah.

[Christian]

Where he's just in front of the wall of screens that's blubbing every. Every Saturday.

[Arian Foster]

That's pretty. That's pretty impressive.

[Christian]

Even when we do the roughness pod, he's still just watching like three or four games at once.

[Arian Foster]

I don't know. That takes a special type of. Of mind to be able to watch all those screens and at the same time absorb what's going on.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Hold like seven different narratives and storylines about the game flows in your head all at once. It's like Alicia Keys playing the two pianos at the same time. It's crazy what he's. I do it sometimes on, on Sundays.

[Christian]

I was going to say y' all do pretty good job on Sundays.

[Arian Foster]

But yeah, there's going to be, you know, at least by this time of the season it's probably like four to seven teams that you don't really have to pay that close attention to anymore. But Blutman, he loves ball. He cares about every game passionately. And yet it sucks. It sucks not being able to especially because now I, I read that I think about 50% of. Of all television now is consumed via streaming and I think cable is down to 22% so.

[Christian]

And live sports are the last bastion of humanity.

[Arian Foster]

Yes.

[Christian]

Because like people will watch AI I already catch myself sometimes like those stupid AI Pokemon shorts. I love those things.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[Christian]

So like short form entertainment people will watch that AI eventually that'll probably go to TV movies. I think the tale on when like I think that sports. That's why all these rich people are investing in it. I think it's real hard to imagine world. Not saying you can't get there, but real hard to imagine a world where people would be invested in sports that don't involve real human pain and joy.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah. The drama and Dancing with the Stars and Dance with the Stars, which is a very big issue that I think we've done a bad job here at Barstool Sports at. At highlighting the fact that Dancing with the Stars viewers are also equally upset, if not more so. To many sports viewers out there.

[Christian]

It's kind of like a sport.

[T Bob]

I was very shocked it got to Saturday for college football. I was more shocked it got to Monday for Monday Night Football.

[Christian]

Monday Night Football was a line in the street.

[T Bob]

And then was it Tuesday last night that was Dancing with the Stars.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

So now everyone knows because now all the women who watch Dancing with the Star stars Knows. The people who only watch the NFL knows. Now everybody's mad. We're all in it together and they're still doing it.

[Arian Foster]

We should form some sort of a TV watchers union.

[Christian]

I mean, that we should have. In all honesty, that's, that's where America's really lost the thread is consumer protections. Yeah, Europe's a bit stronger. They've been holding down. Like they forced the USB C iPhone thing through a few years ago. Like it's, it's, it is actually quite absurd how we have just laid out and spread our legs for our corporate overlords.

[T Bob]

Where's Clark Howard? Isn't he supposed to be doing something about this?

[Arian Foster]

When will he say no more? When will he say enough is enough, and band together as common viewers across all platforms, across all sports, across all reality television shows and say, you know what? If these companies can't figure out a way to get our shows on a service that we pay for willingly, sometimes way too much money for. We need to just say boycott.

[Christian]

Are you, Dude, I'm an addict. I'm not willing.

[T Bob]

I could boycott literally anything except college football.

[Arian Foster]

And they'll just keep doing this to you.

[T Bob]

Yes.

[Christian]

That's how they got us by the nuts.

[T Bob]

Oh, then get a load of this. Get a load of this. FT I go to cancel YouTube TV because I'm like, I'm not putting up with this. And Fubo actually is a little bit of a better deal from what I looked up. I go to cancel YouTube TV. They won't let me cancel and keep the Sunday ticket that I already paid for in full for the whole season.

[Christian]

No way.

[T Bob]

If I cancel YouTube TV, so now they've still got me for another two months. It's the whole thing, it's, that's bullshit.

[Mackenzie]

That's absurd.

[Christian]

We need a class action Michael Jordan lawyer like we, we need. Yeah, I, I, we're, you're right.

[Arian Foster]

We need. We need. That's actually a great point. It should be a law that if a situation like this happens, and especially what Big T said, that is, that's.

[T Bob]

Egregious that you paid for.

[Arian Foster]

Egregious. We should be entitled to our money back. You should have to pay us all back how many months? I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say three months back pay on all the subscriptions that we have that are now rendered useless.

[T Bob]

Agreed.

[Arian Foster]

To every, every consumer in America.

[Christian]

I mean, there's that. See, the problem is we, I pretty sure we sign all this away when we agree to terms and conditions.

[Arian Foster]

Nobody reads those and.

[T Bob]

But every time something bad happens that is covered in the terms and conditions, you, they sue. And the judges are like, yeah, nobody reads that. It doesn't count.

[Christian]

Like, remember when we talked about the person who died at Disney or something? And then they're like, nah, you can't sue us. You got Disney plus talk. Yes. Like, I don't know, like, you should have read.

[Arian Foster]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

And then every time the people, the plaintiffs win.

[Christian]

So I think, I mean, that's like, even. I'm pretty sure when you buy video games or if you like buy a movie on Amazon, you're actually just renting it. Like you think you own it because functionally you basically do, but legally you do not. I think even like, like an Xbox or a PS5, I think you're technically leasing it.

[T Bob]

The console.

[Christian]

Even the console. I'm almost positive. I'm almost positive. Look that up.

[Arian Foster]

Maybe this is a play for cable to get back involved now. Like, what if cable just came out?

[Christian]

That's what T was describing.

[Arian Foster]

Cable was like, that is. Cable's like, we've made a deal with all the conferences, with all the networks. Guess What? Cable's back. $120 a month. Get a box in your house. Xfinity, baby.

[Mackenzie]

Well, it's so funny because my dad can't even get rid of cable because the Yankees still play sometimes on like the yes Network that aren't on any streaming platform.

[Christian]

Trying to get me started.

[Mackenzie]

So it's like you literally have to have everything.

[Arian Foster]

It did feel like Monday Night Football had less juice.

[Mackenzie]

Felt like Dancing with the Stars had less juice. Yeah.

[Christian]

Regional sports networks got to pay 20amonth if you want to watch the Blackhawks or if you want to watch the Cubs.

[T Bob]

Like, it's included on Fubo, which is why I was going to switch to that too.

[Christian]

Pelicans.

[Aryan]

This is why it's never going to be settled. There's just too much going on. It's going to have to be like, like federally regulated.

[Christian]

Yeah. So I'm saying we need some consumer protection. The problem is, okay, it's all being lobbied against.

[Arian Foster]

Consumer protect. Yeah. We need a, A, a sports on tvar.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Aryan]

It's what, it's what unions are for. You got a whole faction of people banging against union.

[Arian Foster]

Well, I think this can unite us.

[T Bob]

Who would?

[Aryan]

The sports would be politically healing this country. That would be amazing.

[Arian Foster]

I mean, we just came up with a great one.

[T Bob]

Blutman.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[Arian Foster]

Blutman.

[Christian]

Yeah.

[T Bob]

No, he is the number one ball watcher.

[Arian Foster]

Blutman should be the sports TVs are in America? Yes.

[T Bob]

Why can't I watch the games, man?

[Arian Foster]

Dude. His press conferences would be Must see tv.

[Christian]

Did he. Was he. Is he. No context.

[T Bob]

College football.

[Arian Foster]

Yes.

[Christian]

Yeah, right. God, I always thought that was a team.

[T Bob]

Because I one guy.

[Christian]

I love that account. For years, I used to use that account because I would do, like, meme reviews, and I would. I mean, I'd always credit it, but I'd be like, this is all basically from this account. And I just assumed it was, like, 10 to 15 guys locked in.

[T Bob]

I actually DM'd him on that account, not knowing who it was, like, two days before he started working here.

[Christian]

Oh, wow.

[T Bob]

Because PFT was on college game day, and he made a joke about this show, and I wanted the clip, and I knew he knew how to do it, so I just DM the no context account, and he got it for me. And then that was on a Saturday, and on Monday, he showed up working here, and I was like, oh, that's that guy.

[Christian]

That's the goat.

[Arian Foster]

Yep. In the flesh. All right, I got a jet. If you guys want to chop it up anymore, I say go for it.

[T Bob]

What are you doing?

[Arian Foster]

Can you. What am I doing? Yeah, I'm gonna go hang out with Hank. Nice outdoors.

[T Bob]

Have fun.

[Arian Foster]

Rich guy for 18 holes. All right, love you guys.